Split Your Head - Season 4 - Episode 57 - Interview with Iron Fortress Records

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Hello, and welcome to Split your Head. I'm your host, Bob,
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and today's special guest is Ben Depauley, the owner and
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operator of Iron Fortress Records as well as Death Relic
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Merch and just a handful of years, Iron Fortress has
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quickly become one of the most reliable and fresh death
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metal labels to pop up, continuously satiating my need for.
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New and unique death metal.
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There isn't quite just one specific sound, and the label
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is even more exciting because of it. Not to mention
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whenever I buy a shirt for one of these brutal bands,
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I can throw an obscure horror T shirt in my
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cart thanks to Death Relic Merch. So naturally, with Ben's
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amazing curation and side hustle of incredible horror merch, I
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just had to have him on to.
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Pick his brain.
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Ben, thank you so much for coming on. Really appreciate it.
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I've been really stoked to get more death metal on
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the podcast. It's really only been like one episode per
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season where I get to talk to someone and I've
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got you on, and you work with so many bands,
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so I'm sure you'll have a lot to talk about.
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You found the death metal guy. Man, that's all I do,
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of course, with the death stuff too, but it goes
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hand in hand.
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Right right exactly.
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Yeah, So let's just start from the beginning, like what
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inspired you to start Iron Fortress Records?
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Wanted a new hobby.
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I've been doing heavy metal music for a long time,
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perhaps since I was like twelve years old, and as
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I got older, started my family, got married, had kids.
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You don't you lose a lot of time to play
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live music, to go to shows, things of that nature.
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I've always been a hardcore collector of things. Back in
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the day, it was CDs. As I got older, it
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was vinyl. Then I fell in love with cassette tapes,
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and I was just like, man, it'd be cool to
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just do a record label. There's a ton of death metal.
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There's a ton of boutique labels, tons of small guys
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out there that are releasing limited edition stuff and super
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underground stuff, and that's just kind of where it was at.
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And I just did it. And it's easier.
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It's easier than you think it is, just to kind
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of start something up, to get going. You know. Obviously
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everything's dependent upon how successful you want to make it,
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based on how much time and effort you put into it.
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But right, right, so sorry, you were saying that you've
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always been involved with metal.
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Does that mean that you're playing in bands before?
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I used to, Yeah, middle school my first band. I
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think I played eighth grade at the Talent show, the
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Emo band then and as I got into high school.
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This was like early early two thousands. Yeah, so right
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when like metalcore, like the proper metal core sound was
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kicking off, metalliccarcore in the late nineties, I was into
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a lot of that stuff, so I had a metal
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core band. In high school, I had a hardcore band,
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and that probably faded out. I think I stopped around
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nineteen to twenty once I started, you know, college kind
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of got in the way and doing all that stuff.
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I was still going to shows and doing that, but
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I didn't have time to be in the band anymore
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because I actually went away to school, so I had
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to quit what I was doing.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, well, I just want to put it up, put
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it out there. Those are not dirty words on this podcast, Emo, metalcore, hardcore.
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I do feel like I oh my bread and butter
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man from back then. That's why childhood it's not even
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a guilty pleasure. You know, people away talk about guilty
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pleasures or they're ashamed to be like, oh I was
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you know punk rock kid, or I listened to metal core, Like, dude,
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you like what you like? Man?
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Totally Yeah. I actually just last week saw Poison the
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Well and Converge, so.
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I had tickets to go see them on their opposite
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December reading tour they did.
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I ended up not being able to go, which totally sucked.
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But dude opposite was like, that's all I feel like,
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Oh I listened to when I was a kid and
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I saw a ton of bands growing up, and Poison
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Well was always one that I never actually got to see.
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So that was a little heartbreaking, but it happens.
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Well, they're still going.
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I feel like, you know, at some point you might
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be able to see them, you know.
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But that too where they're playing opposite from front to back,
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Like if if I ever wanted to see them, that
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is what I would want to hear. Tear from the
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Road would be a second. But that older school, I mean,
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they're still great, but they're older school, actual metal cores.
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I mean they're pioneers of that genre.
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So yeah, well, okay, I hope we're not getting two
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into the weeds by me asking this then, but like,
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how did you get into death metal then?
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Was it also from this?
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It's a natural progression.
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I guess you get into heavy stuff and you kind
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of just just like film.
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Yeah, you know, I didn't.
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I didn't start watching Texas Chainsaw Massacre. I started with
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Monster Squad and Goose Fun.
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Oh you know what I mean.
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So, like you're always when you like macab things like
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we do, death metal is very macob and it's it's
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heavy and it's underground and as you start getting into
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heavier music, it just proceeds into death metal and beyond.
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Right, So it's like you had your love for like metalcore, hardcore,
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and you're watching horror movies and then eventually paper merge
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the death metal.
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Yeah it's conglomerate.
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Yeah.
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I think for me, when I got into death metal,
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this was going back like eighteen years ago or something.
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I'm forty one.
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I had to remember that. So eighteen years ago, I
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just randomly just decided to read about death metal and
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I got all those books like Choo Choosing Death. Yeah,
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like all the books about like the history of death metal.
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And for some reason, that was how I got into it.
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Was like educating myself on it. For some reason, that
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was like what pushed me through getting into it. Otherwise
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I think I would have just been like trying to
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wade through.
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There's a lot.
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There's a lot to weigh through, and I honestly, looking back,
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I don't even know if there was. You know, people
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are always asking you what's the moment, right, I don't
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think there was a singular moment. I mean, even when
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I was growing up in middle school, my best friend's
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dad drove a it was a ninety eight Mustang five oh,
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I think is what it was. And he had a
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gigantic gore gut sticker on the back of this thing.
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I mean we're talking it spanned the entire rear windshield. Yeah,
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so like, and he was a guitar player and his
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dad was in bands, and we were always over at
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his house and there was always like like heavier music
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than what I had been properly exposed to or what
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I was listening to at the time. I was still
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around it, so you know, you just kind of take
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bits and pieces and put it all together, I guess
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for sure.
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Yeah, And I think for me it was like hearing
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Legion Ideas side that album was the one that made
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me go like, oh okay, you know, and that's kind
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of what like glued me to it over the years,
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you know. So okay, So then you know, you've obviously
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had a love for metallic hardcore hardcore, as we were
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talking about, got more into death metal. So why did you,
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you know, specifically focus on death metal then for Iron
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Fortress Records.
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That's what I'm most heavily into now, Okay, I would
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say probably, I don't know, ten fifteen years ago, old
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school death metal proper kind of had a major resurgence. Yeah,
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yeah for sure, like big time and like it was
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just kind of everywhere, and there was a lot of
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good newer bands coming out, which makes it a little
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bit easier to get it. It's easier to stay on
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top of things. In my opinion that it is to
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go back in time and really wade through the genre
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because people think the market and you know, death medal
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general is saturated right now. Man, it was just the
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saturated the nineties. There was a million bands that sounded
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like Da Side and everybody else, you know what I mean.
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It was just a little bit more difficult to find them,
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but they were around.
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Yeah, because you didn't have the internet back then.
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It was all tape trading or you read a zine.
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Ray ray and like your your label produces a lot
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of tapes, which I feel like probably taps into that
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kind of nostalgia a little bit of like how people
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got into death metal.
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Back tapes are cool, man, They're getting a little expensive
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for my taste to get produced. But there's yeah retro,
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they're a retro format, just like how there's a research
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as of vhs. I mean, there's new horror movies that
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are coming out on VHS, which is wild. Tape was
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kind of that same way. Right when that the old
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school death metal revival happened, kind of tapes kind of
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came with it. I felt like now tapes were fading
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out slightly in popularity, mainly because they're getting more expensive
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to make. Back then you could you could make tape
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for a couple of bucks. Now it's double, if not
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triple that, So depending on how many you're printing.
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Yeah, I mean not to go like too tendentially in
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another direction, but you know.
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We might just warn you.
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We might go lots of different directions. So no, no,
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we're freaks, no least though.
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Yeah, but yeah, it seems like, you know, because I
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did listen to you on the podcasts or something.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, we did like a four way conversation
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with New Standard, Elite and Dark Descent and I was
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on that as well. Yeah.
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Yeah, so you guys talked about the whole issue of
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tapes becoming so expensive, and it just it just makes
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you wonder, is like our CD is kind of the
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one uh, you know physical media that's kind of stayed
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the same.
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Yes, I would say price wise, production cost wise, popularity.
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I mean, when I first started in the music it
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was only CDs, same and that's all I was collecting.
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I mean, vinyl was kind of around, but it wasn't
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as prominent as it is in now.
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And tapes weren't a thing either with medical core or
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you know.
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I listened to a lot of punk rock when I
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was a kid through Fat Records, Oh totally, yeah, and
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there was they weren't doing tapes, and if they were
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doing vinyl. I don't remember vinyl being very popular, and
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if I did, I wouldn't have money for board anyways.
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Yeah.
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See these see these are cheap, like at the same
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quantities as a cassette tape. You're looking at way way
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cheaper production costs, and their higher quality, they last longer.
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They're just more popular in general.
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I mean, I'm sure i'd piss off a lot of
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audio files by saying this, but it could be argued
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that like CDs kind of have an upper hand in
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terms of like audio quality. Yes, from yeah, from what
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I understand, like vinyl, I mean, for sure over cassettes,
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but vinyl, when I understand, doesn't have the same range
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of frequencies, especially for base.
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Vinyl can be tougher too, depending on the quality of
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the vinyl print as well as the master behind it. Okay,
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you're a record player, your needle.
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There's a lot of things that go into proper sounding vinyl.
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But there's like a warmth that you get from a
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vinyl record that you don't get from other formats. Also,
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the format itself is large, you know what I mean,
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The picture is big. Yeah, it's just it's just cool.
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It's super cool. It's just a lot more expensive to
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purchase and collect, but.
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Yeah, I guess.
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But the other thing too, is like with vinyl, you
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need a real proper setup to get the most out
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of it, whereas you don't. You don't really need that
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for a CD player or like like a discman, you know,
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you can kind of get to the goods right away. Yeah,
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for vinyl that yeah, you need like the best pre
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amp or whatever, and you need the speakers set up
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in your room so you can hear everything bouncing off
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the walls properly. Yeah, it's a whole lot of money
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to go into something just to get your hands on
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like a death metal release.
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You just don't want to stream it digitally, man, Spotify
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just ruins the sound quality. People don't even realize, yeah,
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because you're so use streaming only. But it's like, dude,
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if you listen to this on a CD on a
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proper sound system, it'll blow your mind compared to what
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you're listening to on Spotify or Apple Music, which isn't
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as bad as Spotify.
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Spotify is the worst by far.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I did make the jump from Spotify to Apple
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and noticed it was like night and day. It's almost
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like the volume goes from like five to ten, you
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know what I mean.
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Yeah, I listen to a lot of YouTube, mainly because
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I like the higher quality if I want to stream something,
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because a lot of stuff like, yeah, YouTube sounds better.
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Okay, so it was diluted. I guess you could.
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Say, yeah, but there's like a compression added from YouTube, right.
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I mean there's compression added to everything I feel like.
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But yeah, so YouTube's got stuff that's like you can't
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get on Spotify, like super like people are just uploading
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all types of old school stuff.
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Don't download music like illegally or whatever.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, so there's really no other way.
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If it's you know, out of print or never been
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printed physically, there's no other way to truly check it out.
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So yeah, I think that might be a good way
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to segue into this then, because you know, one of
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the things I want to ask you is.
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Like, how do you go about finding bands for the label?
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Sometimes it's submissions very rarely. I feel like a lot
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of it's just me hunting bands down.
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Okay, Sorry, when you say rarely, do you mean people
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rarely reach out to you or rarely?
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No, I get rarely. Do I enjoy the submit?
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Okay? Okay, yeah that makes for sense.
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Yeah, I get a ton of submissions, but I would
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say ninety eight percent of them are just I'll listen
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to a snippet of a song, or I'll take a
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look at the artwork, things of that nature, take a
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look at the song titles, album title, band name, all
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the things that go into the release, and I can
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I can judge pretty quickly if this is something that
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I feel like fits me, because everything that I'm releasing
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is things that I like.
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It's nothing. It's never based off Oh this is going
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to sell, but.
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I hate it right, you know what I mean?
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Like I one of my.
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Goal because you see a lot of classic labels, you know,
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relaps not as bad, but metal Blade, Nuclear Bass, you know,
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Center Media, all these they got insane back catalogs of
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old school death metal, like the classic stuff, and they
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beat that shit to hell first of all with releasing,
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which is fine, I guess, but their newer stuff is
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just so the other direction and they put out, in
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my opinion, is so much trash. But I'm an underground
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guy through and through, and I don't ever want to
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abandon that. Yeah, Like I don't want to be this
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mega mega label right that has like twenty employees and
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I'm putting out the next new metal or power metal
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or whatever I my marketing team thinks is going to sell.
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That's never a goal of mine, right, But I mean
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you you you could want to expand, but solely off
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of like the same amount of output of quality.
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I definitely want to keep. A goal of mine is
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to keep working with bands that are on the label
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that I think do well and that sound well. And
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I'm always looking to work with bands that are already
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established and then bands that I that that would that
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would perform well. But I have to like it, yeah,
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if I even even when I bring in for the
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distro in the store, which is really robust these days,
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it's still very very curated by me.
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Nice I get.
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I get labels all around the world. Do you do
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a lot of trading. I do wholesale and trade. Like,
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if I were to only trade my goods, I would
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not even have remotely the breadth that.
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I have on my on my distro.
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You have to wholesale product as well if you want
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a good selection. But I get a lot of labels,
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international labels that want to trade, and I look at
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their lists and I'm like, I don't know what any
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of this is. Yeah, so I'm not going to bring
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it in. It's it's got to be curate. I'm much
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like gonna, Oh you want to trade with me, I
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can get rid of my product take some years. I
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don't want to just dump all have to stuff into
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the store that I know having about.
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Yeah.
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Can we go back to the submission thing, though, because
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that's really interesting to me. So you're saying that you
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get a lot of submissions that eighty percent of it
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you're not you're not interested in.
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Is there times where.
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You hear something and you're like, this is really good,
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it's just not appropriate for Iron Fortress.
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No, not. I feel like most people kind of have
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an idea on if I would maybe pick to release
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it or not, you know what I mean, Like, I'll
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get I'll get a lot of thrash, which I don't
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release and never really have. There's a couple of a
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couple of bands that releases that are kind of thrashy overall.
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But okay, yeah most of the time. It's when when
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they say we feel like we'd be a good fit
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for your label, Like I could be like, yeah, you're
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it's almost there most of the time.
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Oh okay, But like you said your intro.
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Though, I feel like the labels fairly eclectic, like it's
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all deafital but it's not just brutal death metal.
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It's not just old school death metal. It's not just thrash,
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you know. I.
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I have my first what I would consider them a
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lot of death metal band coming out called Vow from Chicago.
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I did their first single two weeks ago week. We
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have a preweter going on their new album right now.
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That's my first time I've really dipped my toes into
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mellow death at all, to be honest with you, but
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it's just because they and they submitted surprisingly and I
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was blown away they submitted. I checked out the album.
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The art was phenomenal. Their promo photos looked killer, which
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is an art form in and of itself that old
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school bands totally understood. New school bands do not understand
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the value of a proper promo photo. Please, babe, take
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proper promo photos, dude. I'm telling you they're important. And
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then I'll listen to the album all the way through.
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It's like six tracks, but it's fairly long, all day long, dude,
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just back back to back to back.
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I was like, yes, we're definitely putting this out.
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Yeah, that's uh.
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That release is one of my most anticipated from behind Fortress.
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And you know, I agree.
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I'm not really a Mellow Death fan either, but something
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about and I'm saying this just off the single. I
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haven't heard the epe at the time of this recording,
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but the single really caught me. And I think I
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was telling I was trying to describe to some friends
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of like, yeah, the production reminds me of Black Breath,
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and the songwriting reminds me of like Tragedy a little
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bit meets in Flames.
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Yeah, it's because they they used to be a metal
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core band, like a proper metal band, and they slowly
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transitioned into what I would consider metal death, but they
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still have that those metal core roots and they bleed
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through vibrantly, which is a plus to them because I've
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always been a meto death fan, but there's not a
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lot that comes out these days. It's just not a
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booming genre right now. And they do a really good
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job of kind of honing you know, their their old
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school sound that they started with with how they want.
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To sound moving forward.
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I feel like then their next record is going to
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be like even more so in the direction they want
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to move in. But this one's kind of a cool
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mesh that sounds very original.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I felt like the songwriting was one mellow death,
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but it does have a bit of that like metal
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core kind of background.
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Well, if you go back can listen to all that
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metal core stuff. It's mellow death with breakdowns.
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Right, Yeah, a lot of it is.
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That's what people don't really think about it that way,
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but that's what it is.
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Yeah.
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Well, the one of the bands that opened for Poison,
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the One and Converge Bellma, who I saw last week,
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are kind of part of this sound as well.
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Yeah, they're part of that whole revival scene. I feel
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like they they might have not started it, but they
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made it popular again.
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Yeah, And to be honest, when that stuff was coming
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out in the two thousands, it was maybe my least
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favorite of the of like metalcore. But hearing it done now,
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there's something about it that's like a little bit more
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refreshing for me.
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I don't know.
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Maybe back then I wasn't really acquainted with Mellow Death
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as much, but.
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It was still new. New genres aren't always the most
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proper there. It kind of takes time to shoot it.
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Feel like it was too metal for the hardcore kids,
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you know what I mean. Yeah, it kind of grew
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into its own species. Nowadays, I feel like all these
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genres and the people that listen to them are so
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you know, together. For me in one group, it's kind
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of hard to decipher the difference.
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Well, could you see yourself maybe putting more stuff like
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that on the label or is that going to be
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a little too far out of Iron Fortress's you know sound.
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I mean, even Vow is stretching it a bit, sure,
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But I'm never I'm never gonna like totally shut down
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the idea of doing something a little bit different.
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But again, most of it's.
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What I like. So it's gonna be old school death metal,
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it's going to be, you know, a hard death It's
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going to be brutal death metal. Most I would say
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ninety eight percent of what you can label is going
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to be a mixture of those genres.
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Sure sure, which brings me to ask you something, what
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happened to Blood Domain.
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I just put it on hiatus.
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I didn't formally announce that, but that was that label
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was kind of my love letter to what we've been
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talking about, which is what waits within metal core. And
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this past year the label Iron Fortress specifically in the
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store have really been booming and I've kind of had
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to take a step. I always bought off more than
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I can chew, Okay, I get these ideas and I'm like,
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let's just do it, and I just do it. I
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only put a lot of thought into it. I just
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guns blazing man all the time, and sometimes cool things
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can happen because of that, and sometimes you just start tanking,
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you know what I mean.
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So I found that it was taking time.
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Away from want my bread and butter, which is Iron
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Fortress and the distro, and that's that's what I wanted
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to focus on. So that was just kind of some
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of the fat that I needed to cut out.
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Okay, but maybe down the road it could be revived
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or something potentially.
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I'm I'm leaving the idea open.
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I still would love to keep dabbling in that stuff,
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but it just wasn't I didn't have the time to
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make it successful.
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Yeah, so then it.
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Became a time sink and a money sink, and I
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wasn't really getting anything out of it, and I'm not
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looking I was never looking at Blood Domain as a
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profit source for what I do. You at least want
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to break even?
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Yeah, you know what I mean.
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Yeah, So you just it was just I need to
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00:21:58.160 --> 00:21:59.599
focus on on Iron Fortress.
493
00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:05.920
Okay, here's here's the idea. Split release Iron Fortress and
494
00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:09.240
Blood Domain. You've got like a brutal death metal band
495
00:22:09.759 --> 00:22:12.079
and a medical band, and that's the split.
496
00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:17.240
And these days, I'm done with splits. I'll be honest
497
00:22:17.279 --> 00:22:17.480
with you.
498
00:22:17.480 --> 00:22:19.480
I did, my dude.
499
00:22:19.480 --> 00:22:23.160
They're on paper, they sound badass. Bands love doing them.
500
00:22:23.599 --> 00:22:28.200
They don't get supported financially from people. I put out
501
00:22:28.200 --> 00:22:30.559
some badass splits last year, and I would.
502
00:22:30.279 --> 00:22:30.880
Say, you did.
503
00:22:31.279 --> 00:22:36.160
Maybe one of them actually performed well? Which one the
504
00:22:36.359 --> 00:22:41.319
Ritual Fog and Chaos Relic. Really, dude, those those two
505
00:22:41.319 --> 00:22:43.400
bands kill Chaos Relic.
506
00:22:43.920 --> 00:22:44.480
If you're not.
507
00:22:44.559 --> 00:22:47.279
Listening to them, listen to them, especially those two songs
508
00:22:47.319 --> 00:22:49.720
they did for that split. Unreal. I mean, Ritual Fog
509
00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:53.359
is great too, but Chaos Relic is killer, dude, super killer.
510
00:22:54.160 --> 00:22:58.240
So I was hoping you're gonna say the Consanguinity split
511
00:22:58.680 --> 00:23:04.119
oh with uh yeah, because I love.
512
00:23:04.119 --> 00:23:05.920
Sadly that did not.
513
00:23:06.039 --> 00:23:07.720
But I think a lot of that has to do
514
00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:11.160
with you kind of have to strack while the iron
515
00:23:11.240 --> 00:23:13.160
is hot. In order to do that, you have to
516
00:23:13.160 --> 00:23:16.480
be in control of the promo. Okay, it's hard to
517
00:23:16.599 --> 00:23:18.880
just go back, even a release that's only two months
518
00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:20.480
old and then all of a sudden put it out
519
00:23:20.720 --> 00:23:23.559
because everyone is already onto the next thing. Especially when
520
00:23:23.559 --> 00:23:25.519
it's a split. It's just like two songs per band.
521
00:23:25.960 --> 00:23:29.039
You can't really. That's the problem is as a consumer,
522
00:23:29.119 --> 00:23:30.440
you can't dig your teeth into that.
523
00:23:31.799 --> 00:23:33.640
Yeah, okay, okay, it's not like.
524
00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:36.279
That's why everyone wants twenty minutes or more music that
525
00:23:36.319 --> 00:23:39.119
they're going to be buying a physical item. They want
526
00:23:39.119 --> 00:23:40.920
to have something that they can keep on and they
527
00:23:41.119 --> 00:23:43.200
think their teeth into you can't do that with a split,
528
00:23:43.519 --> 00:23:44.720
no matter how bad acid is.
529
00:23:45.440 --> 00:23:46.519
Yeah, I mean, I won't lie.
530
00:23:46.599 --> 00:23:48.920
My excitement over it made me think that you were
531
00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:53.119
going to do something with Consanguinity because everything we've.
532
00:23:52.680 --> 00:23:55.400
Talked nothing, nothing is confirmed, but we've we've discussed that.
533
00:23:55.920 --> 00:23:58.200
I'm just kind of waiting to see what they come
534
00:23:58.240 --> 00:23:58.559
back with.
535
00:23:58.759 --> 00:23:59.200
Honestly.
536
00:23:59.359 --> 00:24:02.680
Yeah, they seem like a perfect band for Iron Fortress
537
00:24:02.799 --> 00:24:04.839
and that like they are I would guess you would
538
00:24:04.839 --> 00:24:08.160
say brutal death metal, but their songwriting leans a little
539
00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:11.400
bit more eclectic, I guess, a little bit more.
540
00:24:11.559 --> 00:24:13.720
Yeah, it's different, and I'm always looking for something a
541
00:24:13.759 --> 00:24:16.720
little bit I wouldn't say strange, but you want you
542
00:24:16.759 --> 00:24:17.960
want to look for originality.
543
00:24:18.839 --> 00:24:19.920
Yeah, you want to.
544
00:24:19.920 --> 00:24:22.880
Be somewhat comfortable but also original, if that makes any sense.
545
00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:26.640
Sure, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, like kind of like you know, uh,
546
00:24:28.240 --> 00:24:30.519
I was like, what's the best metaphor, and I'm instantly
547
00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:34.079
going to fucking like Mary Poppins spoon full of sugar.
548
00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:35.160
With put some medicine down?
549
00:24:35.839 --> 00:24:40.680
Yeah, okay, exactly cut, We're not.
550
00:24:43.960 --> 00:24:47.759
But Conseguinity seems to be part of like a new
551
00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:50.799
scene I've noticed of like a lot of these like
552
00:24:51.000 --> 00:24:53.279
way younger death metal bands.
553
00:24:53.559 --> 00:24:56.559
Especially brutal death metal, is very popular right now, especially
554
00:24:56.599 --> 00:24:58.640
with the young kids. A lot of the hardfool kids,
555
00:24:59.240 --> 00:25:03.000
probably thanks to Final Resting Place. I'm assuming they've kind
556
00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:05.240
of introduced they kind of took because those are just
557
00:25:05.240 --> 00:25:07.880
hardcore kids. They just kind of took real like old
558
00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:10.559
school grual death metal and then made it popular now.
559
00:25:10.599 --> 00:25:15.200
Depend obviously definitely lo can range in styles, right, Yes,
560
00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:17.920
Final Resting Place sounds nothing like what you're gonna find
561
00:25:17.920 --> 00:25:21.480
on Como Toast Music or New Standard Elite, not even
562
00:25:21.519 --> 00:25:24.960
remotely the same, but oddly enough you'd consider them the
563
00:25:24.960 --> 00:25:25.599
same genre.
564
00:25:25.680 --> 00:25:26.240
It's strange.
565
00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:27.960
But yeah, so a lot of it's just a ton
566
00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:30.359
of new kids, man that are just jocking BDM right
567
00:25:30.400 --> 00:25:31.720
now it's popular.
568
00:25:31.839 --> 00:25:32.319
Yeah.
569
00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:35.759
Well I feel like the stuff I've heard, like say
570
00:25:35.799 --> 00:25:39.480
like Anatomize Resplendy.
571
00:25:38.759 --> 00:25:39.519
Band as well.
572
00:25:39.759 --> 00:25:42.720
Yeah, all young kids like seventeen.
573
00:25:43.759 --> 00:25:46.519
Yeah, and they're kind of leaning more into like the
574
00:25:46.519 --> 00:25:49.279
blast beat heavy stuff. I wouldn't really think of them
575
00:25:49.319 --> 00:25:53.720
as like, you know, hardcore adjacent necessarily, you know, but
576
00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:56.160
you've definitely put up on some bands that are kind
577
00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:58.880
of like kind of what's the sort of looking for,
578
00:25:59.039 --> 00:26:00.880
like sort of a crossover.
579
00:26:01.480 --> 00:26:02.480
Yeah, a crossover like.
580
00:26:02.480 --> 00:26:07.160
What I call it hard death hardcore death metal combination.
581
00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:10.000
Okay, Okay, you said that earlier, and I was.
582
00:26:09.960 --> 00:26:12.599
Like, that's what I mean by that. Yeah, death metal
583
00:26:12.640 --> 00:26:17.640
bands that have an essence of hardcore but are not hardcore.
584
00:26:17.920 --> 00:26:20.440
They don't have like proper breakdowns, but you could like
585
00:26:20.920 --> 00:26:23.000
kind of hear the influence. I mean, but that's been around.
586
00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:25.160
Tis has been around forever, dude, and they've been doing
587
00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:25.559
it forever.
588
00:26:25.680 --> 00:26:29.279
That's not a new idea, no, no, but it seems
589
00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:32.119
like like now it's almost like a point of contention
590
00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:34.680
a little bit for some people this adea.
591
00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:37.559
I feel like the genre itself is fading in popularity,
592
00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:40.119
just the tad though. You don't hear as many bands
593
00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:43.839
coming out as they were when I first started a label,
594
00:26:43.880 --> 00:26:45.400
you know, three and a half almost four years ago
595
00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:45.920
at this point.
596
00:26:46.480 --> 00:26:46.920
Yeah.
597
00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:52.400
Yeah, Well, your first release was actually, if I'm not mistaken,
598
00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:55.480
a split with two bands that I think were kind
599
00:26:55.480 --> 00:26:57.160
of in that vein a little.
600
00:26:56.880 --> 00:27:01.759
Bit actually from your Thing of Scorching two and Primal Horde.
601
00:27:01.880 --> 00:27:04.440
That was my fourth, my fourth or fifth release.
602
00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:05.960
So I did that for the.
603
00:27:06.039 --> 00:27:09.720
First summer with my friend Johnny from Frozen Screams. We
604
00:27:09.839 --> 00:27:11.000
co released it on vinyl.
605
00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:15.680
Okay, so, but I'm not totally off because it was
606
00:27:15.759 --> 00:27:19.000
like f F zero one, right, so.
607
00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:21.039
That was zero one?
608
00:27:21.359 --> 00:27:23.640
Well, no, so I think Johnny. I think Johnny and
609
00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:26.319
I for fun because he was Frozen Screams. I was
610
00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:28.720
Iron Fortress and we were going to do more crossover
611
00:27:28.799 --> 00:27:31.799
stuff and I think we called it Frozen Fortress as
612
00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:35.279
like a joke. So that's what the catalog number was.
613
00:27:35.319 --> 00:27:38.000
I think, honestly, I'd had to look. I don't even remember,
614
00:27:38.039 --> 00:27:40.240
but if it was f F that's that's probably what
615
00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:40.880
it represents.
616
00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:43.359
Gotcha, because I went on discogs and it was like
617
00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:45.880
that that was listed as the first release, so that
618
00:27:45.960 --> 00:27:47.640
was like the first vinyl release that.
619
00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:50.799
No, that was just the first release I did with Johnny. Honestly,
620
00:27:50.880 --> 00:27:53.240
that was my was my fourth vinyl release. My first
621
00:27:53.240 --> 00:27:54.160
one I did was Piss.
622
00:27:54.039 --> 00:27:57.440
Rot Oh okay, cool cool, and that was.
623
00:27:57.480 --> 00:28:00.440
Come full circle because now they have I. I did
624
00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:03.559
their first album on on vinyl, their first DP on vinyl,
625
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:05.440
and then now they're coming out with their sophomore album
626
00:28:05.640 --> 00:28:08.400
actually drops tomorrow or two days from now, on the
627
00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:11.200
seventeenth of April, so by the time this comes out,
628
00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:14.079
that album had been out for like almost a month.
629
00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:18.279
So okay, wow, so you've kind of kept like loyal
630
00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:19.640
to a lot of these bands.
631
00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:23.039
Then the it's the other way around. They've kept loyal
632
00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:23.279
to me.
633
00:28:23.960 --> 00:28:26.720
Oh okay, okay, Like they haven't been like picked up
634
00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:27.480
by anyone else.
635
00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:28.960
They've just wanted to stay with you.
636
00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:30.960
Well, it's their choice, whatever they want to do.
637
00:28:31.079 --> 00:28:34.039
I don't do. I mean, I do proper contracts, but
638
00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:36.200
I'm not I don't make bands sign their lives away.
639
00:28:36.799 --> 00:28:38.319
And most of the time, at least.
640
00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:40.359
Where I'm at right now, I'm not like, hey, here's
641
00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:43.480
a three album deal. It's a one album deal for
642
00:28:43.519 --> 00:28:45.680
two years, you know what I mean, Like I have
643
00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:48.079
the right sport for that long. I'm not here to
644
00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:51.480
steal band's entire discographies.
645
00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:53.519
That's a very old school way of thinking.
646
00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:56.319
I feel like that's just not the way I do things.
647
00:28:56.359 --> 00:28:59.319
So if the band, obviously they sign on for that album,
648
00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:00.519
that's the album stays with me.
649
00:29:01.079 --> 00:29:03.359
But that doesn't keep them from working with a different
650
00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:04.240
label afterwards.
651
00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:08.079
But hopefully I build a relationship. I'm big on relationship building.
652
00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:10.960
I'm big on community. I've talked about that on all
653
00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:14.720
my interviews, I answer every DM, every email, like I'm
654
00:29:14.720 --> 00:29:18.599
always engaging with people, and that kind of grows that,
655
00:29:19.119 --> 00:29:21.799
you know, that's its community with the people that support me.
656
00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:23.680
And then also the bands that I work with too.
657
00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:26.400
You become friends and you do right by them and
658
00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:27.559
you do what you say.
659
00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:28.079
You're going to do.
660
00:29:28.839 --> 00:29:32.079
Yeah, and if everything goes well, then they stick around.
661
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:35.960
Was there any labels then for you that you kind
662
00:29:35.960 --> 00:29:38.519
of like took a lot of inspiration from, Like you
663
00:29:38.599 --> 00:29:40.279
kind of got those ethics from.
664
00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:43.799
No, just kind of how I decided to do things.
665
00:29:43.880 --> 00:29:45.359
I felt like that was the right way to do it.
666
00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:49.039
I guess I've never been one to take major influence.
667
00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:50.960
I don't I don't look up to people. I don't
668
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:54.519
have heroes. Obviously. I take small bits of influence from
669
00:29:54.759 --> 00:29:57.519
from my surroundings. In general, I don't really think about
670
00:29:57.519 --> 00:29:59.599
it though, you know what I mean. So I think
671
00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:01.759
when I part of my label, I was most likely
672
00:30:01.799 --> 00:30:04.359
looking at a ton of different boutique labels rotted life,
673
00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:07.799
gurgling gore, you know, yeah, dismal fait, stuff like that.
674
00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:08.680
I was like, well, that's cool.
675
00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:10.559
I love the way this looks and that releases killer
676
00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:13.000
but I wouldn't say there was anything that was like
677
00:30:13.079 --> 00:30:16.519
groundbreaking and kind of laid the groundwork for how I
678
00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:19.559
wanted to run a label that was just me how
679
00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:20.480
I wanted to do things.
680
00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:23.960
Okay, fair enough, Well, I mean it sounds like, you know,
681
00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:26.680
because as you said, you were playing in bands growing up,
682
00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:29.400
that like you really wanted to make this your creative
683
00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:32.200
outlet in a way, because it's sort of like it's
684
00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:35.640
sort of replacing that if am I correct into assuming
685
00:30:35.640 --> 00:30:36.200
that I've.
686
00:30:36.119 --> 00:30:39.759
Always been relatively of creative person back then it was musically,
687
00:30:39.759 --> 00:30:42.440
but I was even doing photoshop and stupid stuff like
688
00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:44.400
that when I was in high school. Initially, when I
689
00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:47.160
before I graduated, I wanted to be a graphic design artist.
690
00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:50.200
Glad I didn't go down that route. But I've always
691
00:30:50.359 --> 00:30:54.039
kind of had an artistic itch, and the label scratches
692
00:30:54.079 --> 00:30:55.440
that tenfold more.
693
00:30:55.359 --> 00:30:57.799
So, especially because I do all my own layout design.
694
00:30:58.039 --> 00:31:00.960
I designed everything for Death Row, like my video editing,
695
00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:04.279
everything you see, literally everything across any of my socials,
696
00:31:04.279 --> 00:31:06.079
anything you buy from me, that's my release.
697
00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:07.480
It's all the movie.
698
00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:11.680
So the album covers as well, or is that no?
699
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:14.519
So just just that the design work, not the not
700
00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:16.720
the How can I say this.
701
00:31:16.759 --> 00:31:18.599
I'm not an artist. I'm a designer.
702
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:21.920
I guess, okay, Yeah, it's like it's like you give
703
00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:24.359
me the blueprints and I build the vital layout.
704
00:31:24.680 --> 00:31:25.079
But I'm not.
705
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:27.160
I'm not there drawing artwork. I don't.
706
00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:28.200
I'm not that artistic.
707
00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:32.200
Okay, but you have an artistic.
708
00:31:31.799 --> 00:31:34.359
Guy and you, dude, it's yeah.
709
00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:38.640
I would say those are two fundamental pieces to my success.
710
00:31:39.400 --> 00:31:42.640
Knowing what actual good music sounds like, because we all
711
00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:45.000
know the market's flooded as hell and there's a ton
712
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:46.640
of boutique labels. A lot of them are just no
713
00:31:46.680 --> 00:31:49.079
offense to these guys putting out trash, in my opinion,
714
00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:51.200
or bands that just don't need to have physical media
715
00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:54.039
when there's a ton of amazing bands that people should
716
00:31:54.039 --> 00:31:58.440
focus on more than the ten millionth random demo from
717
00:31:58.440 --> 00:32:01.000
a band that won't be around next year that sounds
718
00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:03.200
like a million bands that came before it. I probably
719
00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:05.400
sound super old and jaded right now, but that's the
720
00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:06.160
way that it is.
721
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:10.240
Well, Okay, then you sound passionate, and I think that
722
00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:12.559
that's what people want to hear. They want to hear conviction,
723
00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:14.880
and this is why they would want to flock to
724
00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:17.319
your label to see, like what the hell you're putting out?
725
00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:20.160
You know, is there any bands that you wanted to
726
00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:22.079
work with that you haven't been able to yet?
727
00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:24.880
Oh? Man, that's a hard question to answer. I want
728
00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:26.160
to work with every good band.
729
00:32:26.680 --> 00:32:28.440
Okay, Okay, I don't know.
730
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:31.640
Like the new Cripworm came out last week. I absolutely
731
00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:34.599
love that band, and the new album is phenomenal.
732
00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:35.880
I would love to work with them.
733
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:39.279
Never gonna happen, but like that's that's always coming around,
734
00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:39.839
you know what I mean?
735
00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:41.799
Yeah, yeah, what's okay?
736
00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:44.839
So then just just for like shits and giggles, what's
737
00:32:44.920 --> 00:32:47.960
the like highest level band you could think of? You're like, fuck,
738
00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:50.039
if I'm for just to put out an amble an
739
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:52.160
album by this band, I could close up shop.
740
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:54.559
Now, like putting me on the spot.
741
00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:58.039
I don't, I can't. I don't know, man, I can't
742
00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:00.880
answer that. I listened to so much metal and I
743
00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:04.160
love it so much. There's it's insane to even think
744
00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:09.279
about picking one band that would be the Krim de
745
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:13.640
Lagrim for me, because there's a thousand, there's so many
746
00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:16.200
good Because I'm thinking more old school than I am
747
00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:17.279
new school at this point.
748
00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:19.160
Okay, Now I will say, how about how about this?
749
00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:22.960
How about this? Okay, I will say, you know, I said.
750
00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:25.680
Earlier about the brutal death metal revival a lot of
751
00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:28.279
and I'm focusing this year on a lot of reissues
752
00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:32.119
as well. I just did reputilation on CD and tape.
753
00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:34.799
That's just the kind of the first step. But the
754
00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:36.960
big announcement that I had a couple of days ago
755
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:38.400
was with a band.
756
00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:39.079
Called in Torturement.
757
00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:42.400
I don't know if you've ever heard them, but they
758
00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:46.160
are like they just started doing merch deals last year
759
00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:50.759
after being gone since I think that ninety six maybe
760
00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:56.359
if they I could be wrong. Descend into Deprivation was
761
00:33:56.359 --> 00:33:59.960
their original album. Then they put out a like am
762
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:02.279
elation that had like a couple split songs and some
763
00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:05.920
other stuff on it. So I'm doing that Descend album
764
00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:09.559
and I'm it just got remastered by my friend Scott,
765
00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:14.480
who plays guitar and dime Remains from Canada.
766
00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:14.960
Amazing band Amazing.
767
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:18.760
He's killer dude, amazing guitarist, but also a great producer too.
768
00:34:18.960 --> 00:34:20.840
He handles all my remasters and stuff that I do
769
00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:22.679
for all these reissues and any other things that I
770
00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:26.679
need sound wise and the new tracks set, like the
771
00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:30.000
remaster tracks sound amazing, but they're like the Torturement is
772
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:32.599
like one of the most known unknown BDM bands of
773
00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:37.239
the nineties. Like this post I made got such insane traffic.
774
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:40.199
People are just like shooting themselves and I'm not surprised.
775
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:42.880
I kind of knew that that's what would happen, just
776
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:45.400
based off how hype this band is and how a
777
00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:48.280
high BDM is right now too, which just helps. But
778
00:34:48.320 --> 00:34:51.679
they only had that one release on CD. Nothing's ever
779
00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:54.119
been on tape besides probably some bootlegs, and nothing has
780
00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:56.400
ever been on vinyl. So not only is it coming
781
00:34:56.519 --> 00:34:59.960
to all formats, but it's the original release, not the compiling,
782
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:04.039
and it's totally remastered and it sounds brutal as hell.
783
00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:09.880
So that's like tore and Torturement. Yeah, that was That
784
00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:11.679
was a high up. I have a whole hit list
785
00:35:11.719 --> 00:35:14.360
of reissues. That was like my number one that I wanted,
786
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:17.320
and oddly enough, it was the first one that I got.
787
00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:20.840
I just I just contacted them at the right time. Dude,
788
00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:23.199
I don't even remember how I got got ahold of them,
789
00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:25.519
to be honest with you, and they had, like I said,
790
00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:27.199
they had done some merch deals and those were taken
791
00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:28.599
off and they were making a little bit of money
792
00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:31.119
on it, and they were just like all down for.
793
00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:32.199
All the ideas I had.
794
00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:34.400
And now it's turned into something even larger than what
795
00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:36.360
it was with the remaster and everything else.
796
00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:39.239
So yeah, and so you're gonna do merch with it
797
00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:39.760
as well.
798
00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:42.360
Yeah, well, I'll do a T shirt and long sleeve
799
00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:44.960
drop pre order drop most likely. I mean they've had
800
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:47.280
they've had merch over the past year from a couple
801
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:50.360
of different Indonesian labels. I think Reality Fade did some
802
00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:53.559
stuff with them too. But yeah, I'll be doing it
803
00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:56.159
as well. But the crimp, the main piece is going
804
00:35:56.199 --> 00:35:58.440
to be the Vile tape and CD because it hasn't
805
00:35:58.480 --> 00:36:00.000
been pressed in like twenty year.
806
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:03.519
So right, right, Is there anyone else that you can
807
00:36:03.559 --> 00:36:05.599
tease because this sounds really exciting.
808
00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:07.360
About doing reissues?
809
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:08.400
Yeah?
810
00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:11.679
Uh yeah, I've teased some stuff on my Instagram already,
811
00:36:11.719 --> 00:36:14.159
so you know, if anyone follows me, they would probably
812
00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:16.639
already be aware of it. There's a Japanese there's a
813
00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:20.159
Japanese badm band called Vomit Remnants.
814
00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:22.800
Oh yeah, yeah, super Old School.
815
00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:26.960
Their first album supreme Entity that is getting reissued by me. Also,
816
00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:30.320
it's been touched before, but it hasn't been touched in
817
00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:33.000
a long time. And I'm also remastering it so it'll
818
00:36:33.039 --> 00:36:37.000
be the best sounding quality that you've seen from that band,
819
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:38.960
and that'll be across all formats.
820
00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:41.000
I haven't told.
821
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:43.360
Anyone this yet, but there's another Japanese band called gor
822
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:47.519
vint Okay. Some people might be familiar with their original demo,
823
00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:51.239
their three song demo, Endless Human Hunting is what it's called.
824
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:54.519
I'm talking to them right now about reissuing that. I
825
00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:56.480
think the only thing, the only time that's ever been
826
00:36:56.480 --> 00:37:00.519
printed was on CDR by the bands type of stuff
827
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:02.199
that I want to hunt down. Like Gorvan is a
828
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:04.760
popular band. Their last round came out like six years ago,
829
00:37:04.840 --> 00:37:07.519
so they're not like super super Active, but they're known
830
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:11.119
within slam and in brutal death metal. Sure that that
831
00:37:11.239 --> 00:37:15.000
is just like it's hard to find these releases that
832
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:17.760
haven't been touched at all, and that's just one of those.
833
00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:20.280
Even if it's just a three song demo, it's a
834
00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:21.920
piece of slam history in my opinion.
835
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:25.400
So ray would that come out as like as like
836
00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:26.960
a seven inch or something though.
837
00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:28.800
I'm most gonna do CD and tape for it. I
838
00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:31.199
would love to do vinyl, but I hate ten inches
839
00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:33.639
and seven inches don't sell so.
840
00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:35.880
Fair enough, Yeah, sadly.
841
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:41.079
Okay, So the dream release for me, I don't actually
842
00:37:41.119 --> 00:37:43.920
know if it's been reissued in the past few years.
843
00:37:43.960 --> 00:37:48.039
But Orchadect to me a prelate attrition, I believe is
844
00:37:48.039 --> 00:37:50.559
what it's called. And I think they're actually Canadian as well.
845
00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:51.880
Do you know that album.
846
00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:54.440
Sounds like something that would be on Cominto's Music or
847
00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:56.320
New Standard Elite with a name like that.
848
00:37:57.559 --> 00:38:02.000
Right, Well, but isn't brutal? Yeah?
849
00:38:02.159 --> 00:38:03.079
Is it old?
850
00:38:04.159 --> 00:38:05.159
Late two thousands?
851
00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:08.239
Okay, Yeah, I mean it's there was a ton of
852
00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:09.920
BEDM that came out around that time. I mean I
853
00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:12.519
was talking about gor Vite. That demo was from the
854
00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:13.480
early two thousands.
855
00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:17.000
So this is the album I guess twenty eighteen. It
856
00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:20.440
was released last. I don't know if you can see that.
857
00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:22.840
Yeah, I don't think i've heard that.
858
00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:25.400
Oh, actually, you know what, that's great.
859
00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:28.840
I made that in toorsement post a couple of days ago. Yeah,
860
00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:31.000
and I tell I told people to tell me who
861
00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:33.239
they wanted me to reissue, and some dude gave me
862
00:38:33.280 --> 00:38:35.400
a small list that band was on it because I
863
00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:36.320
know that I checked it out.
864
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:40.199
Okay, oh you did check it out. Well it's not
865
00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:40.920
on Spotify.
866
00:38:41.800 --> 00:38:43.000
Oh I heard it somewhere then.
867
00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:46.719
Probably YouTube, I guess, or because I got that off base.
868
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:47.760
I'm on all of them.
869
00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:49.519
I feel like, So okay.
870
00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:51.840
I mean, I'm sure you would have heard it one
871
00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:54.079
way or another, but I'm pretty sure it's on Spotify.
872
00:38:55.760 --> 00:38:58.119
So maybe in ten years Iron Fortress.
873
00:38:58.639 --> 00:38:59.679
Yeah, I was eighteen.
874
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:02.239
That's probably a little too soon for me to want
875
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:04.079
sure sure for want to pick it up.
876
00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:07.320
But yeah, that might have even been the band camp
877
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:09.199
release in twenty eighteen.
878
00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:11.199
Oh okay, but I have no idea.
879
00:39:11.239 --> 00:39:15.280
I did see maybe one of the Japanese merch labels
880
00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:17.000
just put out a T shirt for it.
881
00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:19.280
So it's it's I.
882
00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:21.280
Don't know what's what's the How many years does it
883
00:39:21.320 --> 00:39:23.000
need to be before it's considered retro?
884
00:39:23.159 --> 00:39:24.159
Is it twenty thirty?
885
00:39:26.119 --> 00:39:28.519
I don't remember that, but I'm looking for things that
886
00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:33.880
are definitely twenty plus years old. Also, not even just
887
00:39:33.920 --> 00:39:36.719
the age, but like hasn't been repressed at all. That's
888
00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:39.199
like the most important thing. That's why the release is
889
00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:41.320
so special because it's hasn't been touched.
890
00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:47.119
Yeah, and sorry, So they're not playing together still though, No.
891
00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:49.920
No, no, no, they've been disbanded for many, many, many years
892
00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:51.840
and there's reunion.
893
00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:53.639
No, you won't see that happen.
894
00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:56.039
There was some kid in the comments section that was like,
895
00:39:56.400 --> 00:39:59.320
when's the reunion tour not going to happen? Man?
896
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:05.400
Sadly, I mean dear the dream again fingers crossed.
897
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:11.159
Well, maybe with with this album coming out, this reissue
898
00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:14.280
that you're doing, it might spark something for them, right,
899
00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:16.920
I mean, this is we're seeing this happen all the time.
900
00:40:18.400 --> 00:40:20.159
I mean it'd be cool. I'd be mean.
901
00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:23.559
I wouldn't even need a tour, just a show, right, Yeah,
902
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:26.400
that's what a band needs to like do a reunion
903
00:40:26.400 --> 00:40:30.360
show on like a fest, right right. They wouldn't even
904
00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:32.519
need to do a full tour, just one show. But
905
00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:35.519
getting you know, four to five guys together that are
906
00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:38.760
in their forties now not so easy, especially if they
907
00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:40.000
live in different parts of the country.
908
00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:44.159
That's true, that's true. Yeah, So whitns the Iron Fortress
909
00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:47.920
Fest for this year? Oh no, just at all.
910
00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:50.760
I did win last year?
911
00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:51.760
You did one?
912
00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:55.000
Okay, I did one in Indianapolis.
913
00:40:55.079 --> 00:40:56.719
Yeah, okay, how did that go?
914
00:40:57.440 --> 00:40:59.159
It was fun, man, it was fun. It was all
915
00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:01.920
It was like a showcase. So it was all like
916
00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:05.000
bands that were on the label. There was twelve of them.
917
00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:12.320
I think it was a course of demons, decadent, coagulating,
918
00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:17.760
cryptal man, there's a lot of them. I'm trying to
919
00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:21.880
think on who all was there? Swamp Grave, was there,
920
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:24.280
actove Spire, Dysmorphia.
921
00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:29.079
And so you said it was Indianapolis, but you're based
922
00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:32.440
out of Kansas City. Okay, was it sure? If I
923
00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:34.800
was okay to say that, I didn't want to dox
924
00:41:34.880 --> 00:41:35.519
you or anything.
925
00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:37.199
No, you're fine.
926
00:41:38.079 --> 00:41:41.679
So did you have to basically like go up to Indianapolis?
927
00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:42.239
Yeah?
928
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:45.280
I do up there? Okay, Okay, that's it was about
929
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:47.119
seven hours from where I was at that time.
930
00:41:47.800 --> 00:41:49.360
Okay, why did you choose to.
931
00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:49.760
Do it there?
932
00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:52.719
Then? Good central location for a lot of my bands?
933
00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:58.960
Oh okay, and yeah, fairly robust scene. And it was
934
00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:02.920
like there was like three local bands, Ripped Open, Rest
935
00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:06.360
in Peace by the way, they disbanded, Sadly, Hammer and
936
00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:09.760
one Body's His Graves all played the show and they're
937
00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:10.639
all from Indie.
938
00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:12.480
So it just made the most sense.
939
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:16.559
So being at the fest, did that make you at
940
00:42:16.599 --> 00:42:18.719
all kind of like wish that you could go to
941
00:42:18.800 --> 00:42:21.960
more live shows to kind of like even seek out
942
00:42:21.960 --> 00:42:22.840
bands for the label.
943
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:26.119
I mean, Kansas City is not really known for a
944
00:42:26.239 --> 00:42:29.639
robust death metal scene. Sadly, I feel like the one
945
00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:32.719
band that is kick ass from Kansas City. They're called
946
00:42:32.760 --> 00:42:36.280
Tomb Seeker. I actually signed them already. Oh cool, But
947
00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:40.000
other than that, no one like is like supremely impressive.
948
00:42:40.039 --> 00:42:42.000
I guess you could say I'm actually gonna see them
949
00:42:42.559 --> 00:42:47.639
on Saturday night because gate Creepers coming to town. They're coming,
950
00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:50.920
Dime Remains Eternal and then gate Creepers specifically, I guess
951
00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:52.599
asked for Tomb Seeker to play the show.
952
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:56.079
So that was good, That was nice. Yeah, sweet, I
953
00:42:56.079 --> 00:42:58.039
still shows, Oh.
954
00:42:58.000 --> 00:42:59.079
No, I figured. Yeah.
955
00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:01.719
Yeah, it's just I you know, you've got a busy life.
956
00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:04.039
You're family man, so it's hard to well.
957
00:43:03.960 --> 00:43:06.360
I live. I live a further distance away from the
958
00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:09.400
city than I used to, so makes it even more difficult.
959
00:43:09.440 --> 00:43:14.320
But it is what it is, Okay, travel, Yeah, roughly
960
00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:15.920
hour hour and a half depending.
961
00:43:16.719 --> 00:43:19.480
Yeah, do bands ever send you live videos? Is like
962
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:20.519
a demo submission?
963
00:43:21.159 --> 00:43:24.400
No, A lot of times it's just like my one
964
00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:26.559
of my biggest pet peeves is when they ask if
965
00:43:26.599 --> 00:43:29.679
they can submit, Like they'll hit me up on DM
966
00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:31.639
or they'll email me, and I'm.
967
00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:35.239
Like, dude, just submit it. You don't need to submit.
968
00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:38.440
I love when bands have like a proper ep K,
969
00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:41.320
which is like electronics kit. It's got everything that's all
970
00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:43.239
decked out on it. Well for the listeners if anyone
971
00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:47.039
wants to know what that is. Yeah, it's nice to
972
00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:49.480
have it, and that shows professionalism. But a lot of
973
00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:52.000
times it's just like, hey, here's a download, we'd love
974
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:52.519
to work with you.
975
00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:56.599
Okay, so they're kind of letting too many steps in
976
00:43:56.880 --> 00:43:57.920
for you really to like.
977
00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:02.159
Honestly stream a link, band photo artwork if you haven't
978
00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:04.400
done that's really all I want to see. I don't
979
00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:08.000
need like this big you know, bio and a million
980
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:10.480
different links. You don't even have to send me the
981
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:11.639
whole album if you just want to send me a
982
00:44:11.679 --> 00:44:13.440
couple of tracks of the best track the single.
983
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:16.199
That'll give me a good idea to But yeah, that's nothing.
984
00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:18.280
That's ever live footage. Plus, I don't I'm not going
985
00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:21.599
to base. How about bands sound? How good a band
986
00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:24.920
is based off live footage anyways. It's I don't care
987
00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:28.320
to watch live footage. It's about being there to see
988
00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:32.039
it live that's important. Not just like hearing the live
989
00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:34.199
footage that doesn't really do a lot for me, but
990
00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:36.679
being there and feeling the vibe and seeing the essence
991
00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:37.400
is a little bit different.
992
00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:42.079
Yeah, I guess, I guess I was just curious about that, like,
993
00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:44.800
you know, because like you might not be able to
994
00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:47.199
see some of these bands live and if maybe the
995
00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:50.599
live presentation is something that could impress you enough to
996
00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:53.679
sign the band, you know, But I can most.
997
00:44:53.480 --> 00:44:53.960
Of the time.
998
00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:55.599
Most of the time, I feel like when I see
999
00:44:55.599 --> 00:44:56.519
a band, they all kind of.
1000
00:44:57.039 --> 00:44:59.400
Resemble each other. I will say, at the best.
1001
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.000
There was one band the label that like blew me
1002
00:45:02.039 --> 00:45:04.440
away with their life presence, and that was Criptual.
1003
00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:05.320
Dude.
1004
00:45:05.320 --> 00:45:07.679
It was so badass. You'll have to look up some
1005
00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:10.559
footage of them playing live. But it's just like a
1006
00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:15.079
whole It's a whole oral or a cryptual crypt with
1007
00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:16.360
a U a L at the end.
1008
00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:20.239
So then I'm okay to ask, Then when'sday next?
1009
00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:23.000
Iron Fortress Fast nothing planned?
1010
00:45:23.079 --> 00:45:25.119
So I had mentioned earlier how I was cutting the
1011
00:45:25.159 --> 00:45:28.599
fat right That's probably gonna be one of the things
1012
00:45:28.599 --> 00:45:30.280
that I'm just kind of putting on the back burner
1013
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:32.199
for now because it's a lot of time.
1014
00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:33.039
It's time consuming.
1015
00:45:33.760 --> 00:45:37.199
Yeah, it almost makes sense for someone who's a promoter
1016
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:39.679
to maybe approach you about doing it for you.
1017
00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:42.280
That would be that would be great. So any promoters
1018
00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:45.840
that are listening, Yeah, hit me up, because I did
1019
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:47.440
everything last year by myself, so.
1020
00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:53.000
Oh wow, no, never, oh really.
1021
00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:56.719
And that process was fairly it wasn't terrible. Luckily, some
1022
00:45:56.760 --> 00:45:59.119
of the local bands helped me out a ton with
1023
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:03.400
the actual like of logistics because they obviously have played
1024
00:46:03.440 --> 00:46:05.840
a million shows and they knew the venue and who
1025
00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:08.199
was running the venue, so that came in handy because
1026
00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:10.960
I would have been totally lost. So I definitely relied
1027
00:46:11.280 --> 00:46:14.440
on my family, so to speak, to help me put
1028
00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:15.320
on the festival.
1029
00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:19.599
Okay, yeah, because like I couldn't imagine doing that for
1030
00:46:19.639 --> 00:46:21.440
the first time. It's you know, it's one thing to
1031
00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:23.639
put on like a regular show, but you're doing a
1032
00:46:23.639 --> 00:46:24.280
whole fest.
1033
00:46:24.360 --> 00:46:24.519
You know.
1034
00:46:24.719 --> 00:46:26.239
Remember when I said I'd bite off more than I
1035
00:46:26.239 --> 00:46:29.000
could chew and I just kind of go in guns blazing.
1036
00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:32.920
That's another perfect example. Yeah, just so you just got
1037
00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:33.960
to do it, man, just do.
1038
00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:38.639
It, okay? So then can I maybe ask, actually you
1039
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:39.199
hate that?
1040
00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:44.239
I just let's no, no, no's what's what would you
1041
00:46:44.280 --> 00:46:48.199
say was the worst instance of you biting off more
1042
00:46:48.239 --> 00:46:50.320
than you could chew, like it really blew up in
1043
00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:50.840
your face.
1044
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:54.639
I wouldn't say anything's actually blown up in my face.
1045
00:46:56.239 --> 00:47:01.119
Nothing. There's no like catastrophes that have happened from something
1046
00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:06.239
that I've done, besides wasted time and money. But nothing
1047
00:47:06.280 --> 00:47:09.400
that's like nothing that's like scarring me for a life,
1048
00:47:09.480 --> 00:47:10.079
you know what I mean?
1049
00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:13.280
But maybe you have like a thicker skin than most
1050
00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:14.559
people getting into this.
1051
00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:16.880
Yeah, I mean you try stuff and some stuff fails
1052
00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:20.679
and some stuff is successful. That's business in general. True
1053
00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:22.719
with anything you do. Man, A lot of people were
1054
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:24.559
afraid to do things. I've never done that before. Well
1055
00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:27.639
I never ran a label before, you know, I didn't
1056
00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:30.639
even pick up Adobe for like fifteen years, and I
1057
00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:33.119
did layout design for my first model release.
1058
00:47:33.199 --> 00:47:36.760
Like, you just got to do stuff right right, teach yourself.
1059
00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:37.079
Learn.
1060
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:39.000
The Internet is full of knowledge.
1061
00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:43.360
So that leads me to asking about death Relic then,
1062
00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:47.320
because did you start that simultaneously with Iron Fortunes.
1063
00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:47.840
No.
1064
00:47:48.119 --> 00:47:54.159
That started August of twenty four. Okay, it actually started
1065
00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:56.519
with an idea that is totally different than what it
1066
00:47:56.559 --> 00:48:00.159
is now. Initially, I wanted to do merch drops, but
1067
00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:02.559
I wanted to work with Like when when a lot
1068
00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:05.119
of labels or merch companies in general do merch drops,
1069
00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:08.119
it's always with bands.
1070
00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:07.920
Just bands, bands, bands.
1071
00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:11.239
I wanted to do labels, and I wanted to do artists,
1072
00:48:11.280 --> 00:48:15.239
like visual artists, oh that that have brand identities.
1073
00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:18.920
Okay, and I did two.
1074
00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:23.079
I did one label and one artist, and neither was successful.
1075
00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:25.440
I was like, Okay, well I'm gonna because I did
1076
00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:30.039
launch it was like patches, flags, slip mats, things like that,
1077
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:33.000
like merch items, yea and yeah, and none of them
1078
00:48:33.039 --> 00:48:35.000
really none, none of that took off. So I just
1079
00:48:35.079 --> 00:48:39.599
kind of pivoted into something different with it. Sorry, I
1080
00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:42.559
mean horror merch was always an idea too, because my
1081
00:48:42.599 --> 00:48:46.360
first release was actually a set of three patches, embroidered
1082
00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:49.960
patches that were all like taken from images taken from
1083
00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:50.840
horror films.
1084
00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:55.079
Right right, Okay, just going back to the label visual
1085
00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:58.199
artist idea. So the label that you're releasing, are you
1086
00:48:58.239 --> 00:48:59.719
talking about like a record label.
1087
00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:02.119
It was Frozen Screams. So I did a merch drop
1088
00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:02.960
for Frozen Screams.
1089
00:49:03.159 --> 00:49:05.880
Oh flag, a patch, and a slip mat and they're
1090
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:07.119
all super killer designs.
1091
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:10.440
And then the visual artist who was the visual artist
1092
00:49:11.239 --> 00:49:14.559
Vomit Tomb. Oh yeah, yeah yeah.
1093
00:49:14.639 --> 00:49:18.599
Actually, if I'm not mistaken, I kind of ripped off
1094
00:49:18.679 --> 00:49:22.760
Vomit Tomb for my tattoo that I got this tattoo.
1095
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:25.039
I could see. I can see the resemblance.
1096
00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:28.320
Yeah yeah, which is funny because when my tattoo artist
1097
00:49:28.360 --> 00:49:31.760
posted it, he was like, whoa, that looks killer or something,
1098
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:32.360
and I was like.
1099
00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:36.960
Oh no, everyone takes influence from everybody, dude.
1100
00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:39.760
Yeah, I mean it looks different enough, but it you
1101
00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:41.159
know what I mean, the kind of like.
1102
00:49:42.960 --> 00:49:46.480
It resembled. It resembles his style for sure for sure.
1103
00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:47.880
Yeah.
1104
00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:51.760
So Death Relic then, is it basically kind of a
1105
00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:53.880
place for you to like indulge in your your love
1106
00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:54.840
for horror films.
1107
00:49:55.400 --> 00:49:58.400
Yeah, I mean and my love for design right right,
1108
00:49:58.800 --> 00:49:59.119
I can't.
1109
00:49:59.159 --> 00:49:59.880
I can't get enough.
1110
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:02.000
Even though I'd do a million layouts and a million
1111
00:50:02.039 --> 00:50:05.079
ads and videos and everything else. It's always fun to
1112
00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:07.119
do merch you know, design as well.
1113
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:10.440
Yeah, so does that mean that you're a big fan
1114
00:50:10.519 --> 00:50:13.440
of Black Past Video Violence, Tetsuo.
1115
00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:16.599
Yeah, dude, there's so many, there's so many classics.
1116
00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:19.039
I mean I remember starting in elementary.
1117
00:50:18.599 --> 00:50:21.880
School with my love for WHRROR. Okay, and everyone probably
1118
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:25.480
has a similar origin story going to the VHS store,
1119
00:50:25.639 --> 00:50:28.880
Like I'm talking pre Blockbuster too. Yeah, it's like you
1120
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:31.360
said you were like forty one. I'm thirty eight, so
1121
00:50:31.400 --> 00:50:34.119
I was born in nineteen eighty seven, so like early nineties,
1122
00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:38.119
early to mid nineties, VHS was still very prominent. Yeah,
1123
00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:41.840
and there was a store called Box Office Video that
1124
00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:45.159
eventually closed down because Blockbuster opened up across the street
1125
00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:49.280
sadly enough, but that was an old school store. This
1126
00:50:49.440 --> 00:50:53.519
was pre DVD and I remember just going in there
1127
00:50:53.519 --> 00:50:56.840
mainly to WRINT video games, Super Nintendo, and I just
1128
00:50:56.840 --> 00:50:59.239
remember they had a horse selection and like I would
1129
00:50:59.239 --> 00:51:01.320
just obsess over looking at the back of the boxes
1130
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:03.840
looking for all the group, which which is funny now
1131
00:51:03.880 --> 00:51:07.159
because I obsessed more about cover art now, but back
1132
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:09.800
then it was all it was all about, mainly seeing
1133
00:51:09.840 --> 00:51:14.280
the real imagery within the movie that it got me excited,
1134
00:51:14.519 --> 00:51:17.519
which is like completely reversed on what the marketing teams
1135
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:19.800
were trying to do with those films, right, the main
1136
00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:22.000
cover art is what should attract you first.
1137
00:51:22.280 --> 00:51:23.360
But I would just flip everything.
1138
00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:25.159
I would go through look at every single Nightmare and
1139
00:51:25.159 --> 00:51:27.159
Elm Street and try to find you know, I always
1140
00:51:27.199 --> 00:51:28.679
have my favorite scenes.
1141
00:51:28.519 --> 00:51:30.159
From each one in the back of the boxes.
1142
00:51:31.079 --> 00:51:34.960
I remember my grandmother was babysitting you once I was
1143
00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:38.280
in fifth grade and we went to the movie store.
1144
00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:40.280
My parents would never let me rent anything that was
1145
00:51:40.800 --> 00:51:44.639
too brutal, right, okay, and I rented Child's Play for
1146
00:51:44.679 --> 00:51:48.440
the first time. Yeah, my grandma not knowing what I
1147
00:51:48.519 --> 00:51:51.239
was getting into, and that was probably like my first
1148
00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:55.000
like actual like brutal horror back then. You know what
1149
00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:56.920
I mean. If you look at it now, a kid
1150
00:51:56.960 --> 00:52:03.599
that's like nine watching that now, let's be a little harrowing. Yeah,
1151
00:52:03.639 --> 00:52:05.880
but I mean I read like every Goosebumps book in
1152
00:52:05.920 --> 00:52:08.559
fifth grade, and I was watching Monstter Squad and and
1153
00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:11.039
all that stuff, like I mentioned earlier, just growing that.
1154
00:52:11.199 --> 00:52:13.280
I had an older sister that would bring a lot
1155
00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:15.239
of that stuff around too, which was cool. Same.
1156
00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:17.960
Yeah, Yeah, my older sisters were both into horror, and
1157
00:52:18.360 --> 00:52:20.480
so they would rent something and then I would sneak
1158
00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:23.119
and grab it. Like that's how I watched like Sleepway
1159
00:52:23.159 --> 00:52:25.320
Camp for the first time when I was like, you know,
1160
00:52:25.639 --> 00:52:28.760
a lot of that ship. So so with these designs,
1161
00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:34.000
like I'm just assuming their their bootlegs, like they're okay.
1162
00:52:33.679 --> 00:52:34.679
Well that's that's so.
1163
00:52:34.719 --> 00:52:38.920
That's if you look at modern hor merch, these companies
1164
00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:41.199
are not going to get a license for a shirt
1165
00:52:41.239 --> 00:52:45.400
that's so niche. It's gonna sell five shirts like Black
1166
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:48.559
Past you know what I mean, that's not going to
1167
00:52:48.599 --> 00:52:51.320
be a money maker. But what's cool about doing bootlegs
1168
00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:54.719
is I don't love within the death metal world. I
1169
00:52:54.800 --> 00:52:57.320
don't really love bootlegs, especially if the band is still around,
1170
00:52:57.519 --> 00:53:00.880
even if in our classic band. But in the horror realm, Dude,
1171
00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:03.000
these movies are so old and they were a lot
1172
00:53:03.039 --> 00:53:05.800
of them were made just straight to VHS. You're never
1173
00:53:05.840 --> 00:53:08.400
gonna get merch for him. Dude, You're never gonna see
1174
00:53:08.440 --> 00:53:08.800
merch for that.
1175
00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:10.760
So I like that.
1176
00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:13.559
The whole premise behind death Relic is to have this
1177
00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:16.920
insane selection, which I think is like upwards of a thousand,
1178
00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:20.199
almost a thousand designs now or something nuts. Any horror
1179
00:53:20.239 --> 00:53:23.360
movie you could possibly think of, Yeah, you know, down
1180
00:53:23.400 --> 00:53:26.599
to stuff like POV movies like Blood Lake. You know
1181
00:53:26.639 --> 00:53:29.559
what I mean, like the most obscure stuff. I have
1182
00:53:29.639 --> 00:53:31.440
a lot of it on there. I have not seen
1183
00:53:31.480 --> 00:53:35.199
everything that I've made merch for. Oh no, I mean
1184
00:53:35.239 --> 00:53:38.199
that's a goal of mine, I guess in time. But
1185
00:53:38.679 --> 00:53:39.159
that's a lot.
1186
00:53:39.360 --> 00:53:40.639
That's a lot of movie watching.
1187
00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:43.039
I've I've seen plenty of horror in my day, but
1188
00:53:43.079 --> 00:53:46.519
there is some obscure stuff, and I'm I'm always finding
1189
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:47.239
new things too.
1190
00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:50.760
So wait, so you haven't seen Black Past.
1191
00:53:51.000 --> 00:53:54.840
No, I've never seen that. Oh I know, I know.
1192
00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:03.039
I'm not ashamed to say I haven't heard every death
1193
00:54:03.079 --> 00:54:05.840
metal band, and then I haven't seen every horror film.
1194
00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:10.280
I make this stuff for fans as well as myself,
1195
00:54:10.280 --> 00:54:11.880
you know what I mean. There's someone out there that
1196
00:54:11.960 --> 00:54:20.559
I know loves Black Past, So why yeah, moon No, Okay,
1197
00:54:20.639 --> 00:54:24.599
so it's on my list. I had this list doing
1198
00:54:24.639 --> 00:54:27.199
a lot of this merch design. There's a huge list
1199
00:54:27.199 --> 00:54:29.880
that I've accumulated over the couple of years of doing
1200
00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:31.639
it where it's like, yeade, I gotta see this because
1201
00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:33.840
I do a ton of research and I want to
1202
00:54:33.840 --> 00:54:34.079
see this.
1203
00:54:34.119 --> 00:54:34.719
I want to see this.
1204
00:54:34.960 --> 00:54:36.719
I just got to track it down I don't really
1205
00:54:36.760 --> 00:54:39.239
buy a lot of I used to collect a ton
1206
00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:42.280
of horror DVDs. There was this shop in my town
1207
00:54:42.360 --> 00:54:47.119
that had great deals on old DVDs and they had
1208
00:54:47.119 --> 00:54:49.559
everything sectioned off by genre, so I could just go
1209
00:54:49.719 --> 00:54:52.400
straight to whrror and just dig through the binds and
1210
00:54:52.440 --> 00:54:54.559
I am ass like a crazy collection.
1211
00:54:54.920 --> 00:54:56.400
Then they close and I'm like, well, where the hell
1212
00:54:56.440 --> 00:54:57.480
am I gonna get my stuff now?
1213
00:54:57.639 --> 00:54:59.639
Because I would just pick up random stuff that didn't
1214
00:54:59.639 --> 00:55:01.280
even don't even know what it was.
1215
00:55:02.039 --> 00:55:03.840
That's what we all did. Yeah, we found.
1216
00:55:05.519 --> 00:55:08.679
There's a time to explore still for sure, Moon being
1217
00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:09.159
one of them.
1218
00:55:09.400 --> 00:55:11.880
Oh my god, yes, well, I mean that was the
1219
00:55:11.920 --> 00:55:13.719
thing that surprised me. I think it was the first
1220
00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:17.800
time I bought a few shirts from the website, was
1221
00:55:17.920 --> 00:55:20.760
just like, oh, there's a horror section, and then right
1222
00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:23.800
away the first like ten shirts that showed Black Pass.
1223
00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:25.440
I didn't even go further. I was like, oh, I
1224
00:55:25.480 --> 00:55:28.480
need a black Pass shirt in my life. So which
1225
00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:31.559
is just a glowing uh you know, review for you
1226
00:55:31.719 --> 00:55:32.960
to like try and see it.
1227
00:55:33.320 --> 00:55:35.639
What else do you remember what else you bought?
1228
00:55:36.760 --> 00:55:39.039
Yeah, this shirt, the kopol shirt.
1229
00:55:39.360 --> 00:55:41.119
I saw that when when we first got on I
1230
00:55:41.119 --> 00:55:42.400
thought that was the design that I did.
1231
00:55:42.519 --> 00:55:44.800
Yeah, yeah, and splattered spine.
1232
00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:50.239
Great band about to reissue there, We're not reissue repress
1233
00:55:51.119 --> 00:55:52.599
the CD that we put out last year.
1234
00:55:52.519 --> 00:55:55.119
Or so oh cool? Okay, yeah, great CD.
1235
00:55:56.079 --> 00:56:01.400
And then the recent order I did was Matrophee and
1236
00:56:01.559 --> 00:56:07.119
uh and Tetsuo nice. So that Tetsu shirt the design
1237
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:11.679
is incredible, Like you fucking kill that design.
1238
00:56:13.000 --> 00:56:16.199
A lot of times I try to just replicate the
1239
00:56:16.320 --> 00:56:18.920
v Like, honestly, a lot of the assets that I take,
1240
00:56:19.079 --> 00:56:21.199
you would think people would be looking at movie posters.
1241
00:56:21.480 --> 00:56:24.519
A lot of times I'm looking for VHS scans. Okay,
1242
00:56:25.159 --> 00:56:26.920
so a lot of stuff that I'm pulling, not that
1243
00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:30.559
one in particular, but the whole essence is to kind
1244
00:56:30.559 --> 00:56:33.440
of take the original cover and you don't have to
1245
00:56:33.440 --> 00:56:35.239
do a ton to it and turn it into a
1246
00:56:35.280 --> 00:56:36.079
T shirt design.
1247
00:56:36.679 --> 00:56:37.440
What does that look like?
1248
00:56:37.480 --> 00:56:38.760
I don't know, moving the logo to.
1249
00:56:38.719 --> 00:56:41.280
The top, maybe adding a tagline at the bottom, like
1250
00:56:41.320 --> 00:56:44.639
nothing crazy, because honestly, I hate modern hor merch. It's
1251
00:56:44.639 --> 00:56:48.639
so flamboyant, thousands of colors, the designs are just like
1252
00:56:48.800 --> 00:56:50.840
way too intense, Like it's.
1253
00:56:50.719 --> 00:56:52.880
Just it's just it's too much. I hate it so
1254
00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:53.320
I wanted to.
1255
00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:55.679
I wanted to kind of strip it down, keep it
1256
00:56:55.719 --> 00:56:58.760
more simplified. Just a lot of people just want a lot, dude.
1257
00:56:58.840 --> 00:57:01.559
I've gotten people that want more just logo teas, just
1258
00:57:01.599 --> 00:57:04.119
the movie logo. Maybe it was something on the back,
1259
00:57:04.800 --> 00:57:07.079
but they just want stuff that's you would think would
1260
00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:09.119
be more of like a band T shirt.
1261
00:57:09.719 --> 00:57:11.280
Sure, sure, the movie shirt.
1262
00:57:11.639 --> 00:57:15.119
You're kind of making me think of my friend Payson,
1263
00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:19.320
who's in two Mold, used to do horror bootleg shirts
1264
00:57:19.679 --> 00:57:24.159
and his whole like idea of approaching it was like, oh,
1265
00:57:24.199 --> 00:57:27.719
I want to basically make death metal long sleeves that
1266
00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:31.079
I can wear on tour, but they're for horror movies, yep.
1267
00:57:31.400 --> 00:57:33.000
And so that was his whole approach. It would be
1268
00:57:33.119 --> 00:57:36.880
very like, you know, stripped back kind of stuff. And
1269
00:57:36.880 --> 00:57:38.679
and I think that's what I loved about the Tetsuo
1270
00:57:38.840 --> 00:57:41.880
one was that it was just very simple in a way,
1271
00:57:41.960 --> 00:57:45.280
but like almost like perfectly simple. Like you just had
1272
00:57:45.360 --> 00:57:48.440
kind of like a white rectangle kind of frame and
1273
00:57:48.480 --> 00:57:50.880
then Tetsuo and then the image of like the guy
1274
00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:53.719
kind of crouched down. There wasn't really a lot to
1275
00:57:53.920 --> 00:57:55.639
it per se, but it was just right.
1276
00:57:56.079 --> 00:57:57.960
Yeah, I'll like to keep it fairly simple for most
1277
00:57:58.000 --> 00:57:59.960
of the stuff. It's better that way.
1278
00:58:01.119 --> 00:58:04.079
So what would you say, is like the shirt on
1279
00:58:04.320 --> 00:58:07.239
Death Relic, that's probably sold the best, like the most
1280
00:58:07.239 --> 00:58:10.000
popular design anything Texas.
1281
00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:13.519
Shane saw Masker, especially especially the.
1282
00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:16.239
Uh the Breakfast You know how, the the main image
1283
00:58:16.239 --> 00:58:17.320
for that movie was like a kind of like a
1284
00:58:17.360 --> 00:58:18.159
Breakfast Club.
1285
00:58:18.000 --> 00:58:18.360
Rip off.
1286
00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:22.199
The Whole Family. If you go back and look at
1287
00:58:22.199 --> 00:58:24.199
that photo of all the whole family, it kind of
1288
00:58:24.199 --> 00:58:27.360
resembles Breakfast Club the cover of that. I think that
1289
00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:29.079
I think that's what they were trying to mimic with that.
1290
00:58:29.119 --> 00:58:31.239
I'm not one hundred percent sure, but growing up I
1291
00:58:31.280 --> 00:58:34.199
watched like every John Hughes movie possible, and that's exactly
1292
00:58:34.280 --> 00:58:37.800
especially Breakfast Club, and that's what that image reminds me of. Yeah,
1293
00:58:37.800 --> 00:58:39.880
it's from the second movie. So there's like a white
1294
00:58:39.880 --> 00:58:42.000
and a black version with is that image and then
1295
00:58:42.039 --> 00:58:44.239
the logo beneath it. I don't know what it is.
1296
00:58:44.480 --> 00:58:46.159
That is like one of the most basic It's not
1297
00:58:46.199 --> 00:58:48.079
even a shirt that I would even wear or like
1298
00:58:48.199 --> 00:58:50.400
that much, but man, dude, people just like buy it
1299
00:58:50.440 --> 00:58:50.800
every week.
1300
00:58:50.840 --> 00:58:53.679
I'm like, okay, whatever Guinea.
1301
00:58:53.400 --> 00:58:55.840
Pig sells really well too, a lot of the obscure
1302
00:58:55.880 --> 00:58:56.639
stuff like that.
1303
00:58:57.320 --> 00:58:57.800
Yeah.
1304
00:58:58.000 --> 00:58:59.880
Have you seen those movies the Guinea Pigs.
1305
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:02.159
I've seen the first one, yeah, and then I've I've
1306
00:59:02.159 --> 00:59:06.519
seen Bouquet of or what there was a newer one
1307
00:59:06.519 --> 00:59:08.159
that came out somewhat recently.
1308
00:59:08.280 --> 00:59:10.719
It's not Japanese Guinea Pig.
1309
00:59:10.800 --> 00:59:13.559
Yeah, yes, I've seen that too, and then I've did
1310
00:59:13.559 --> 00:59:16.440
I've dived into some other kind of obscure stuff with
1311
00:59:17.199 --> 00:59:17.960
August Mortem.
1312
00:59:19.039 --> 00:59:20.320
Oh yeah, August Underground.
1313
00:59:20.400 --> 00:59:23.079
Yeah, those are them, right.
1314
00:59:22.960 --> 00:59:24.599
Yeah, there was like there's like two or three shirts
1315
00:59:24.599 --> 00:59:27.360
on there. I remember watching that for the first time.
1316
00:59:28.159 --> 00:59:29.800
Oh man, I was probably twenty and I had to
1317
00:59:29.800 --> 00:59:32.960
turn it off. Wow. At that point I was like,
1318
00:59:33.000 --> 00:59:35.119
this is upsetting. I've seen it all the way through
1319
00:59:35.159 --> 00:59:39.039
since then. But yeah, people gravitate towards the real six stuff.
1320
00:59:39.679 --> 00:59:42.159
But you also just don't see merch like that anywhere.
1321
00:59:42.199 --> 00:59:44.360
So that's true. That's true.
1322
00:59:44.480 --> 00:59:49.119
I believe the director of that film did stuff with
1323
00:59:49.440 --> 00:59:50.440
the death metal band.
1324
00:59:51.599 --> 00:59:52.039
Oh did he?
1325
00:59:52.679 --> 00:59:56.559
I want to say, how Necrophages? I know there's like
1326
00:59:56.599 --> 00:59:59.039
a bunch of bands with a very similar name like that,
1327
00:59:59.079 --> 00:59:59.960
so I could be wrong.
1328
01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:04.880
That's a famous tech brittle tech metal. They're on Willow
1329
01:00:04.920 --> 01:00:06.280
Tip where they used to be. I don't think I
1330
01:00:06.320 --> 01:00:08.639
think they might don't if they're around anymore. But yeah,
1331
01:00:08.760 --> 01:00:11.079
really good BDM band more on the technical side.
1332
01:00:11.079 --> 01:00:15.599
But yeah, yeah, well yeah, so they've they've been associated
1333
01:00:15.639 --> 01:00:18.280
with it. I feel like death as we started this
1334
01:00:18.360 --> 01:00:24.440
conversation again, you know it's all connected. Yeah, well we are.
1335
01:00:24.760 --> 01:00:27.000
We're actually right at the hour mark. So I feel
1336
01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:31.320
like I should, you know, wrap this up. But is
1337
01:00:31.320 --> 01:00:33.280
there anything else that you wanted to kind of mention?
1338
01:00:33.679 --> 01:00:35.599
I was telling you before we recorded, this is coming
1339
01:00:35.599 --> 01:00:37.360
out May twenty six, so if there's anything that you
1340
01:00:37.400 --> 01:00:40.000
wanted to just kind of mention, like coming out soon
1341
01:00:40.119 --> 01:00:41.039
or plug anything.
1342
01:00:41.599 --> 01:00:43.800
I mean, there's always stuff coming out. If you like
1343
01:00:43.880 --> 01:00:47.960
death metal, obviously follow me on Instagram. That's where I'm's
1344
01:00:47.960 --> 01:00:49.960
where I spend most of my time. I'm on every
1345
01:00:49.960 --> 01:00:53.000
social media YouTube too. If you're a YouTube person, you
1346
01:00:53.039 --> 01:00:55.159
can find every release I've ever done on there. I'm
1347
01:00:55.159 --> 01:00:59.599
on band camp, follow my newsletter. There's a Spotify playlist,
1348
01:01:00.039 --> 01:01:02.039
so any and most of my releases are on Spotify,
1349
01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:04.559
so you can find all the music there. If you're
1350
01:01:04.679 --> 01:01:07.400
watching this because you're a horror fan, check out Death Relic.
1351
01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:10.639
Go to the website and click on the merch button
1352
01:01:10.639 --> 01:01:12.400
and there's a Death rellic hole section. Right there you
1353
01:01:12.440 --> 01:01:16.039
can find all the T shirts available. I'm always uploading
1354
01:01:16.039 --> 01:01:18.639
new stuff, so and follow the Death Relic page two
1355
01:01:18.679 --> 01:01:19.320
on Instagram.
1356
01:01:19.639 --> 01:01:21.239
I post a new shirt every day.
1357
01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:23.360
Wow, not saying that.
1358
01:01:23.400 --> 01:01:26.280
I'm not saying that I'm uploading a new shirt every day,
1359
01:01:26.320 --> 01:01:29.000
but I post about a shirt that's available every day,
1360
01:01:29.400 --> 01:01:31.480
or I try to until I rude, Oh.
1361
01:01:31.400 --> 01:01:36.239
I see, I see, Okay cool. Can you tease any
1362
01:01:36.519 --> 01:01:38.719
Death Relic shirts are going to be dropping soon?
1363
01:01:39.039 --> 01:01:41.639
No, because I haven't designed anything lately. I just did
1364
01:01:41.639 --> 01:01:45.159
a bunch of Resident Evil stuff for the games, the
1365
01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:48.199
original three games. There's some video game stuff on there,
1366
01:01:48.280 --> 01:01:51.480
not a ton, but yeah, there's nothing that I am
1367
01:01:51.559 --> 01:01:53.440
working on that I haven't.
1368
01:01:53.159 --> 01:01:53.880
Put out yet.
1369
01:01:54.760 --> 01:01:58.679
Okay, it's already so there's already so much on there.
1370
01:01:58.880 --> 01:02:03.079
I heard people, yeah, fatigue from just scrolling. So I've
1371
01:02:03.079 --> 01:02:05.039
actually tried to minimize a little bit of it. Like
1372
01:02:05.079 --> 01:02:07.000
I've I got rid of all the hoodies, and I
1373
01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:09.760
got rid of doing hats and tank tops, and I'm
1374
01:02:09.800 --> 01:02:12.760
just kind of solely focused on just T shirts and
1375
01:02:13.039 --> 01:02:14.920
nothing more trying to simplify it, make it a little
1376
01:02:14.960 --> 01:02:17.559
bit easier to understand, to find what you're looking for.
1377
01:02:18.440 --> 01:02:20.840
Yeah, you can get you can go crazy real fast,
1378
01:02:21.079 --> 01:02:21.599
especially me.
1379
01:02:21.719 --> 01:02:23.360
Yeah.
1380
01:02:23.400 --> 01:02:28.719
Well, if you ever need ideas titles research DM ME.
1381
01:02:29.199 --> 01:02:31.159
There's a guy that therees, a guy that hits me
1382
01:02:31.239 --> 01:02:33.840
up all the time. All his stuff is like super obscure,
1383
01:02:33.880 --> 01:02:37.239
like sixties stuff that I've never seen that I'm thinking
1384
01:02:37.360 --> 01:02:39.880
this probably won't even sell one. To be honest with you,
1385
01:02:40.119 --> 01:02:42.559
I'm more focused on seventies and eighties, and I dished
1386
01:02:42.559 --> 01:02:45.880
a little bit into the nineties. Yeah, I'm becoming more
1387
01:02:45.920 --> 01:02:48.800
nostalgic for nineties stuff now, but when I first got
1388
01:02:48.880 --> 01:02:50.920
into it, I was watching a lot of nineties stuff.
1389
01:02:51.280 --> 01:02:54.320
So I'm really more interested in kind of diving deeper
1390
01:02:54.360 --> 01:02:55.760
into the older titles.
1391
01:02:56.239 --> 01:02:57.639
Okay, yeah, yeah, if you.
1392
01:02:57.599 --> 01:03:00.159
Ever have any ideas, anyone's welcome to DM ME and say, hey,
1393
01:03:00.280 --> 01:03:01.000
check this movie out.
1394
01:03:01.039 --> 01:03:02.039
How about this image?
1395
01:03:02.760 --> 01:03:06.199
Yeah? Okay, expected DM soon.
1396
01:03:07.960 --> 01:03:11.639
Wake up every morning with different even new list every day.
1397
01:03:11.639 --> 01:03:11.920
For me?
1398
01:03:12.960 --> 01:03:13.320
Why not?
1399
01:03:15.159 --> 01:03:17.440
Okay, So we'll move to the questionnaire and I'll let
1400
01:03:17.519 --> 01:03:20.840
you get on your way. All right, what is one
1401
01:03:20.880 --> 01:03:25.880
item you can't live without?
1402
01:03:26.800 --> 01:03:30.679
Oh, man, I mean my PC that I'm on right now.
1403
01:03:31.360 --> 01:03:33.239
I would say, if people will we got a laptop
1404
01:03:33.440 --> 01:03:35.719
or phone. Nah, man, it's the PC. I can't design
1405
01:03:35.760 --> 01:03:38.719
on my phone. This is my this is my life's
1406
01:03:38.760 --> 01:03:43.159
blood or my I guess that's more than one item.
1407
01:03:43.159 --> 01:03:46.400
But my my record collection would be coveted.
1408
01:03:46.639 --> 01:03:48.880
Item as well. But that's more than just one obviously.
1409
01:03:49.480 --> 01:03:50.440
That's fair. That's fair.
1410
01:03:51.400 --> 01:03:54.039
What was the last great movie you saw in theaters?
1411
01:03:56.079 --> 01:03:58.119
I don't get the chance to go see movies in
1412
01:03:58.119 --> 01:04:00.440
the theaters very often. There's no movie the in my
1413
01:04:00.519 --> 01:04:04.760
town that I currently live in, and so the reason
1414
01:04:04.840 --> 01:04:08.440
behind that for me not having time is my wife
1415
01:04:08.480 --> 01:04:11.800
and I have been raising two boys under four for
1416
01:04:11.840 --> 01:04:15.679
the past four years with no family around us, so
1417
01:04:15.679 --> 01:04:19.079
there's been very little time or no there's no way
1418
01:04:19.280 --> 01:04:22.000
to see a movie. I took my four year old
1419
01:04:22.039 --> 01:04:24.679
to his first movie last weekend. We went and saw
1420
01:04:24.719 --> 01:04:27.159
the New Mario. I don't know if that counts, but
1421
01:04:30.559 --> 01:04:33.599
it was cool for him. Yeah, those I've seen. I mean,
1422
01:04:33.639 --> 01:04:36.159
all I do is practically watch kids movies these days,
1423
01:04:36.199 --> 01:04:39.239
so I try to get my son, like his first
1424
01:04:39.239 --> 01:04:42.199
movie he ever watched was the original Texas Chainsaw but
1425
01:04:42.280 --> 01:04:44.320
he was like one and a half years old and
1426
01:04:44.599 --> 01:04:47.400
not having any idea what's going on. Although I have
1427
01:04:47.840 --> 01:04:51.079
I have successfully made him obsessed with Halloween.
1428
01:04:51.599 --> 01:04:54.039
So now I'm working on the other one, the younger one.
1429
01:04:55.000 --> 01:04:55.320
Sure.
1430
01:04:55.559 --> 01:04:59.079
Sure, So there's always stuff that I want to I
1431
01:04:59.480 --> 01:05:01.519
try not to go too hardcore with it. So we
1432
01:05:01.559 --> 01:05:05.719
watched the roose Bumps movies and anything that's a little
1433
01:05:05.760 --> 01:05:08.000
you know, there's a couple of Disney movies like Halloween, Town,
1434
01:05:08.320 --> 01:05:11.960
Focus Pocus, you know, the stuff that's softer. Eventually, well,
1435
01:05:12.199 --> 01:05:13.840
probably two or three more years. I don't want to
1436
01:05:13.840 --> 01:05:16.880
scare the kid to death nightmares, so you know.
1437
01:05:17.880 --> 01:05:27.599
Yeah, I you could try Black Past Really Okay, dude,
1438
01:05:28.159 --> 01:05:31.039
don't ever show that's funny.
1439
01:05:32.280 --> 01:05:35.000
Okay, what was the last great concert you went to?
1440
01:05:39.360 --> 01:05:41.679
I mean, honestly, so I mentioned that Tomb Secret band
1441
01:05:42.880 --> 01:05:45.920
that they're the only local band on the label. The
1442
01:05:46.039 --> 01:05:49.400
last good show that I went to was their album
1443
01:05:49.440 --> 01:05:49.960
release show.
1444
01:05:51.239 --> 01:05:52.559
Oh okay, cool, cool.
1445
01:05:56.239 --> 01:05:56.800
January.
1446
01:05:57.920 --> 01:05:59.800
Oh okay, it wasn't that long ago, No.
1447
01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:00.760
Two months ago.
1448
01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:03.519
And then I'm sure the next great show will be
1449
01:06:03.599 --> 01:06:05.440
this upcoming Gay Cooper show.
1450
01:06:05.440 --> 01:06:06.320
I've never seen them.
1451
01:06:06.159 --> 01:06:10.320
Live, so with dying remains and.
1452
01:06:10.400 --> 01:06:13.639
The band called Eternal, which is excellent as well.
1453
01:06:14.079 --> 01:06:18.039
Okay, sweet, what was the last great book you read?
1454
01:06:19.239 --> 01:06:23.039
I don't read ever. I don't have time, man.
1455
01:06:23.679 --> 01:06:25.920
Not even that bad. Like I read every night before
1456
01:06:25.920 --> 01:06:27.320
I go to bed. It helps me sleep.
1457
01:06:27.360 --> 01:06:31.920
You know, I'm either researching for the label, looking up
1458
01:06:32.119 --> 01:06:36.920
stuff to reissue, checking out new bands. Because dude, as
1459
01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:39.639
much as I love what I do, it is insanely
1460
01:06:39.719 --> 01:06:42.880
time consuming if I want to shake it at it. Yeah,
1461
01:06:42.880 --> 01:06:45.920
because if because I'm people underestimate what it's like to
1462
01:06:45.960 --> 01:06:47.559
be a buyer, a product.
1463
01:06:47.199 --> 01:06:48.920
Buyer for a store.
1464
01:06:49.320 --> 01:06:51.360
So not only am I running a label, but the
1465
01:06:51.360 --> 01:06:53.400
bulk of what of why I spend my time on
1466
01:06:53.599 --> 01:06:55.599
and the bulk of why people are in the stores
1467
01:06:55.639 --> 01:06:58.880
to buy my distro, all the domestic label product that
1468
01:06:58.920 --> 01:07:01.360
I bring in, everything that I So I have to
1469
01:07:01.440 --> 01:07:05.679
know every label, every band, every release, what's new, what's old,
1470
01:07:05.719 --> 01:07:09.000
who repressed? What what the new reissue is? Like, I
1471
01:07:09.079 --> 01:07:10.880
have to stay on top of all that. So I'm
1472
01:07:10.880 --> 01:07:13.880
doing a lot of research and that Luckily death metal
1473
01:07:13.960 --> 01:07:17.280
is like my core being. Yeah it's fun, Yeah, it's
1474
01:07:17.320 --> 01:07:19.519
fun to do, but it's very time consuming. And if
1475
01:07:19.559 --> 01:07:22.000
I'm not doing that I'm obviously spending time with my family,
1476
01:07:22.199 --> 01:07:23.960
and if I really want to take some time off,
1477
01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:24.800
which I which I do.
1478
01:07:25.519 --> 01:07:28.599
I play a lot of games, okay, or I used to.
1479
01:07:28.719 --> 01:07:30.119
I used to play a ton of games.
1480
01:07:30.159 --> 01:07:33.320
I still play weekly now, but it's nowhere near the
1481
01:07:33.360 --> 01:07:36.199
amount of hours that I used to sink in, right.
1482
01:07:36.079 --> 01:07:38.519
Right, right, So let's pivot them. Do you have like
1483
01:07:38.559 --> 01:07:41.800
a favorite book that you read at some point?
1484
01:07:41.920 --> 01:07:44.159
You know, dude, I haven't read a proper book, and
1485
01:07:44.159 --> 01:07:45.840
I don't know how, Like, I'm not kidding.
1486
01:07:45.880 --> 01:07:48.639
It's just never been. It's never been something that I've
1487
01:07:48.719 --> 01:07:50.159
chose to make a hobby of mine.
1488
01:07:50.639 --> 01:07:55.360
Really, Film, gaming, music, those are I have always been
1489
01:07:55.400 --> 01:07:56.039
my focuses.
1490
01:07:56.280 --> 01:07:59.280
I don't know how you can have five or six hobbies,
1491
01:07:59.320 --> 01:07:59.440
you know.
1492
01:07:59.440 --> 01:07:59.719
What I mean?
1493
01:07:59.719 --> 01:08:01.519
I dabbling at every media.
1494
01:08:01.639 --> 01:08:04.000
Man, you must have a lot of time in your hands.
1495
01:08:04.199 --> 01:08:07.559
You want faces.
1496
01:08:09.599 --> 01:08:11.280
As I said, I read when I go to bed.
1497
01:08:11.480 --> 01:08:15.639
It helps me sleep, you know. But okay, I'm reading too.
1498
01:08:17.119 --> 01:08:19.039
I'm reading distribution lists.
1499
01:08:19.600 --> 01:08:19.800
Yeah.
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01:08:19.880 --> 01:08:20.399
Stories.
1501
01:08:21.520 --> 01:08:25.720
Your eyes get to work out either way. Yeah, yeah, Okay,
1502
01:08:25.760 --> 01:08:29.399
this one's a long question. For his final meal, John
1503
01:08:29.479 --> 01:08:34.039
Wayne Gacy picked KFC Chicken, shrimp and strawberries for your
1504
01:08:34.079 --> 01:08:35.920
final meal before being executed.
1505
01:08:35.960 --> 01:08:36.640
What would you pick?
1506
01:08:39.159 --> 01:08:45.399
Indian cuisine? Okay, nice, hurry, something is standards. Just you know,
1507
01:08:45.479 --> 01:08:50.359
maybe some butter chicken on rice, some potato samosas, some garlic,
1508
01:08:50.520 --> 01:08:51.159
non bread.
1509
01:08:51.439 --> 01:08:52.720
I could devour.
1510
01:08:52.840 --> 01:08:55.800
I could devour that for hours. Man, they don't get
1511
01:08:55.800 --> 01:08:57.920
it as often as I want, sadly.
1512
01:08:58.680 --> 01:09:00.880
Yeah, are there spots in your town?
1513
01:09:01.880 --> 01:09:03.800
Not so. I live in a town of like five
1514
01:09:03.800 --> 01:09:07.199
thousand people, So no, okay, not much here. The nearest
1515
01:09:07.199 --> 01:09:10.279
town has some spots, but just in Kansas City in general,
1516
01:09:10.560 --> 01:09:12.680
there's not even even the last city that I just
1517
01:09:12.760 --> 01:09:14.720
moved from, because we just moved to my wife's hometown
1518
01:09:14.920 --> 01:09:17.319
to be close to the family to help us manage
1519
01:09:17.399 --> 01:09:19.079
manage these two demons.
1520
01:09:18.680 --> 01:09:19.560
That rule my house.
1521
01:09:20.159 --> 01:09:20.439
Yeah.
1522
01:09:21.119 --> 01:09:23.000
And the last time I was in was right outside
1523
01:09:23.039 --> 01:09:25.079
Kansas City and it was a suburb of one hundred
1524
01:09:25.079 --> 01:09:28.399
thousand people and they still didn't have a single Indian restaurant.
1525
01:09:28.680 --> 01:09:29.079
Wow.
1526
01:09:29.520 --> 01:09:32.239
So it's just hard to find in general around here.
1527
01:09:32.279 --> 01:09:35.039
They are available, but it's difficult. Maybe that's why it's
1528
01:09:35.039 --> 01:09:37.960
so coveted in my mind. Sure, because I do a
1529
01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:39.880
lot of cooking. I do all the cooking in my house.
1530
01:09:41.000 --> 01:09:42.960
I guess that's another hobby of mine, would be cooking.
1531
01:09:43.920 --> 01:09:45.760
But I have not mastered any in cuisine. I've never
1532
01:09:45.760 --> 01:09:47.279
even really dabbled in next, I know there's.
1533
01:09:47.119 --> 01:09:49.640
A lot to it. Yeah, and I'm trying to cook
1534
01:09:49.680 --> 01:09:50.319
for four people.
1535
01:09:50.479 --> 01:09:54.479
My sons don't want to eat anything too crazy off the.
1536
01:09:54.479 --> 01:09:57.319
Cuff, right, Yeah.
1537
01:09:56.760 --> 01:09:59.119
Gotta get somewhat simple. A lot of different types of
1538
01:09:59.119 --> 01:10:00.640
basta things of that nature.
1539
01:10:01.279 --> 01:10:03.520
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense it. Do you have like
1540
01:10:03.560 --> 01:10:09.199
a favorite Indian spot in particular? Yeah?
1541
01:10:09.319 --> 01:10:12.079
Well there, I mean I did in town where I was,
1542
01:10:12.319 --> 01:10:13.479
or near the town over.
1543
01:10:13.960 --> 01:10:15.239
It was called Indian Palace.
1544
01:10:15.840 --> 01:10:19.359
Okay, just your stand I mean they're all obviously some
1545
01:10:19.399 --> 01:10:21.800
of them are better than others, but all the ones
1546
01:10:21.840 --> 01:10:26.479
that I've had are relatively equal on the satisfaction scale.
1547
01:10:26.119 --> 01:10:27.479
For me, for sure.
1548
01:10:27.680 --> 01:10:29.399
No, Indian's great.
1549
01:10:30.600 --> 01:10:33.079
It's good in uh In during the winter.
1550
01:10:33.800 --> 01:10:36.960
Mm hmm. You know everything is pipe and hot.
1551
01:10:37.039 --> 01:10:42.159
Gets your sweating, okay, yeah, especially feel like it's spicy. Yeah.
1552
01:10:42.479 --> 01:10:45.439
Last question, Can art go too far?
1553
01:10:48.399 --> 01:10:53.399
Yes? It can? I think it depends. So I guess
1554
01:10:53.760 --> 01:10:55.000
I can answer this question and.
1555
01:10:55.279 --> 01:10:58.119
In a frame of reference that makes sense for me
1556
01:10:58.239 --> 01:11:02.800
and what I do on a daily basis, just released music, yeah,
1557
01:11:02.960 --> 01:11:06.119
as funny as it is, and the horrible things that
1558
01:11:06.199 --> 01:11:08.640
I watch on a weekly basis and that you probably
1559
01:11:08.680 --> 01:11:13.319
also watch. Right, regarding horror films, I don't there. I
1560
01:11:13.359 --> 01:11:16.520
think an album cover can go a little too far.
1561
01:11:16.640 --> 01:11:19.960
And there's just two specific things that I don't have
1562
01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:26.239
a taste for. One is anything regarding children. Yeah and
1563
01:11:26.079 --> 01:11:27.840
I and you don't even really see that in horror
1564
01:11:27.880 --> 01:11:31.119
films either, but being a father of two, it's just
1565
01:11:31.159 --> 01:11:34.319
not something I want to partake in. Yes, Like there
1566
01:11:34.399 --> 01:11:40.680
was there was a band that they mentioned an album
1567
01:11:40.720 --> 01:11:43.560
title that had philocide in it. I was just like,
1568
01:11:44.119 --> 01:11:45.680
that's about killing I don't want to talk. I don't
1569
01:11:45.680 --> 01:11:48.640
want to release an album about killing your children. That's
1570
01:11:48.640 --> 01:11:49.520
so fucked up.
1571
01:11:49.399 --> 01:11:51.960
And especially as a father, it's like that's something I
1572
01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:53.239
would never even fathom, right.
1573
01:11:53.800 --> 01:11:55.640
And the other thing is, which is funny because I
1574
01:11:55.640 --> 01:11:57.479
love brutal death metal, but there's.
1575
01:11:57.279 --> 01:11:58.960
A lot of brutal death medal that's super.
1576
01:11:58.760 --> 01:12:03.640
Cringe to me. And it's very misogynistic, like just overboard
1577
01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:08.279
tons of violence against females. Yeah, but it's like a
1578
01:12:08.319 --> 01:12:11.439
stationary photo of it with like an album that's tied
1579
01:12:11.479 --> 01:12:13.560
to it talking about clits and other shit.
1580
01:12:13.640 --> 01:12:15.880
I'm just like, what are we doing? This is so cringe.
1581
01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:19.279
Guys like like, this is just not I just don't
1582
01:12:19.279 --> 01:12:21.359
have a taste for that style of brutal death metal.
1583
01:12:21.600 --> 01:12:22.840
And you'll never see that.
1584
01:12:23.239 --> 01:12:26.000
There was even a band last year that I released
1585
01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:27.560
an album with and I this is the only time
1586
01:12:27.560 --> 01:12:29.279
I've ever had to do this, and I made them
1587
01:12:29.359 --> 01:12:30.479
change the artwork.
1588
01:12:30.159 --> 01:12:31.319
Before we released it.
1589
01:12:32.239 --> 01:12:33.800
Okay, was it had?
1590
01:12:34.000 --> 01:12:38.439
It was? It was a fairly explicit rape scene on
1591
01:12:38.479 --> 01:12:41.800
the cover, and the art itself was done beautifully as
1592
01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:45.039
weird as that sounds, it was behind it and there
1593
01:12:45.079 --> 01:12:47.079
was two pairs of tits on the cover art and
1594
01:12:47.079 --> 01:12:51.159
I'm just like, too much, maybe one maybe one pair,
1595
01:12:51.199 --> 01:12:53.000
but then you had to put another pair on the
1596
01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:55.279
bottom right corner. Like it just didn't make any sense
1597
01:12:55.319 --> 01:12:57.920
to me, and it came across as crass and it
1598
01:12:57.960 --> 01:12:59.960
didn't do the music any justice.
1599
01:13:00.960 --> 01:13:04.000
Okay, I thought you meant like the woman had four brass.
1600
01:13:04.319 --> 01:13:07.760
No, there was just two separate images on the artwork
1601
01:13:07.800 --> 01:13:08.520
that were boobs.
1602
01:13:09.039 --> 01:13:10.600
I'm just like, okay, I don't know.
1603
01:13:10.680 --> 01:13:12.840
That doesn't And the art it was, it was cool,
1604
01:13:13.000 --> 01:13:14.960
but it was just it was, I wouldn't.
1605
01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:16.680
It was too much. I also have to think about
1606
01:13:16.680 --> 01:13:18.199
it from a marketability standpoint.
1607
01:13:18.399 --> 01:13:20.319
Sure, if I have to take your album cover and
1608
01:13:20.880 --> 01:13:24.239
bleep everything out on YouTube, on band camp and everywhere,
1609
01:13:24.279 --> 01:13:26.159
I can't market it and I can't sell it because
1610
01:13:26.600 --> 01:13:28.640
imagery is a lot that has a lot to do
1611
01:13:28.720 --> 01:13:29.600
with the music itself.
1612
01:13:30.159 --> 01:13:31.439
Yeah, totally, totally.
1613
01:13:32.000 --> 01:13:33.640
So those are the two things that I think were
1614
01:13:33.840 --> 01:13:37.720
art can go too far my current tastes at least.
1615
01:13:37.960 --> 01:13:40.880
Yeah, no, no, I think that makes a lot of sense.
1616
01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:46.000
What did they end up doing instead of that original idea.
1617
01:13:45.600 --> 01:13:47.520
They went They went back to an artist they had
1618
01:13:47.600 --> 01:13:51.359
used previously that was just like, that's artist's style, and
1619
01:13:51.439 --> 01:13:54.279
it was just kind of like a his style was
1620
01:13:54.359 --> 01:13:55.000
difficult to.
1621
01:13:57.560 --> 01:13:58.319
You'd have to see it.
1622
01:13:59.319 --> 01:14:01.239
I don't want to name the band or the release
1623
01:14:01.319 --> 01:14:04.319
or anything, but no, there the artork that we used
1624
01:14:04.399 --> 01:14:06.239
ended up being awesome. I mean I like that artist,
1625
01:14:06.319 --> 01:14:08.119
so it was fine with it. It was less explicit,
1626
01:14:08.239 --> 01:14:08.960
let's just say that.
1627
01:14:09.319 --> 01:14:09.560
Yeah.
1628
01:14:09.760 --> 01:14:13.560
I figured, yeah, we need more like demons and stuff
1629
01:14:13.600 --> 01:14:16.239
like that, you know, like more supernatural.
1630
01:14:16.920 --> 01:14:18.640
Satan needs to make its way back in the Death
1631
01:14:18.680 --> 01:14:19.319
Medal for sure.
1632
01:14:19.920 --> 01:14:23.399
Yeah, yeah, I mean that's like a conversation onto itself.
1633
01:14:23.479 --> 01:14:25.720
But yeah, there's not there's not a lot of that
1634
01:14:25.840 --> 01:14:26.840
evilness anymore.
1635
01:14:27.439 --> 01:14:32.520
Yeah, So okay, So advice to any bands listening, if
1636
01:14:32.520 --> 01:14:35.760
you want Ben to really take a look at your submission,
1637
01:14:36.279 --> 01:14:42.079
make it satanic themed. And no, just don't just don't
1638
01:14:42.119 --> 01:14:42.560
ask me.
1639
01:14:42.600 --> 01:14:46.800
If you can submit about we'll keep it. We'll keep
1640
01:14:46.800 --> 01:14:47.319
it simple.
1641
01:14:47.479 --> 01:14:51.520
Also, streamable link not downloads, because if I'm out, if
1642
01:14:51.560 --> 01:14:53.960
I'm out and about, obviously I'm here eight hours a day,
1643
01:14:54.119 --> 01:14:56.680
right right, and I easily listen to it. But if
1644
01:14:56.680 --> 01:14:58.439
I if I really want to listen to the album,
1645
01:14:58.600 --> 01:15:01.239
I have to open up, you know, doll loaded individual files,
1646
01:15:01.399 --> 01:15:03.479
put them either on my band camp just like listen
1647
01:15:03.479 --> 01:15:05.279
to it, or throw it into my iTunes or something
1648
01:15:05.359 --> 01:15:06.520
that takes a lot of time. I don't want to
1649
01:15:06.560 --> 01:15:09.199
do all that. Send me a link, YouTube is fine,
1650
01:15:09.920 --> 01:15:12.319
SoundCloud whatever, and I could just play it. But also
1651
01:15:12.720 --> 01:15:14.600
it's helpful if I'm at home on the weekend and
1652
01:15:14.600 --> 01:15:16.640
I want to check it out. Maybe at nighttime, I
1653
01:15:16.680 --> 01:15:18.199
just watch the movie I want to. I want to
1654
01:15:18.199 --> 01:15:20.119
take out take a look at this new submission. Put
1655
01:15:20.159 --> 01:15:22.199
a pair of headphones in. I can't do that if
1656
01:15:22.199 --> 01:15:24.399
you're sending me download links.
1657
01:15:24.159 --> 01:15:28.960
Right, But like dropbox is something that you can stream
1658
01:15:29.039 --> 01:15:29.680
and you get down.
1659
01:15:29.920 --> 01:15:33.239
Yeah, dropbox can work as well. I just prefer other methods.
1660
01:15:33.279 --> 01:15:35.079
But a lot of bands don't even do dropbox. They're
1661
01:15:35.119 --> 01:15:39.560
just like a straight up download. Okay, how often I'm
1662
01:15:39.560 --> 01:15:43.119
not even getting a dropbox Okay, good to know.
1663
01:15:45.359 --> 01:15:46.520
I'm getting thinking about this.
1664
01:15:46.600 --> 01:15:51.760
I'm so sorry. Okay, Ben, Well, thank you so much
1665
01:15:51.800 --> 01:15:55.479
for your time. I'm super stoked for everything coming out
1666
01:15:55.560 --> 01:15:58.000
this year and all the stuff that you'll announce, and
1667
01:15:58.079 --> 01:16:00.359
I'm sure you'll see in order from me in the
1668
01:16:00.399 --> 01:16:01.359
next couple of months.
1669
01:16:01.399 --> 01:16:04.359
You know, I'll watch out for your name exactly.
1670
01:16:04.399 --> 01:16:06.199
Now I'm going to go through and snoop through all
1671
01:16:06.239 --> 01:16:08.000
my orders and find all the stuff.
1672
01:16:07.720 --> 01:16:12.039
That you've bought two orders in the past eight months.
1673
01:16:12.079 --> 01:16:15.399
I believe I'm not not too shabby, not too chevy.
1674
01:16:15.439 --> 01:16:17.520
Okay, all right, good talking to you man.
1675
01:16:18.039 --> 01:16:19.800
Thanks Pure Shot.
1676
01:16:21.279 --> 01:16:37.840
John Shot Out, Shot Out Stop, Shot Shot Stop Show
1677
01:16:38.680 --> 01:16:39.439
Jo Shout.
1678
01:16:41.760 --> 01:16:43.880
Jo Shot Shot.
1679
01:16:45.239 --> 01:16:45.479
Stop.
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01:16:54.600 --> 01:16:57.439
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