FTR #62 Ed Haslam Update Side 2

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Hello. My name is Dave Emory, and it's my pleasure
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once again to present ed Haslam, the author of Mary
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Ferry and the Monkey Virus, The Story of an underground
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medical laboratory, published in soft cover by the Wordsworth Press,
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copyright nineteen ninety five, and welcome back to our airwaves.
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Thank you, Dave.
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We've been talking about a tortuous and vitally important discovery
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that you made while tracing them while investigating the murder
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of doctor Mary Sherman. You wound your way through the
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milieu of the investigation into the assassination of President Kennedy,
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you came across an apparent soft tissue cancer epidemic and
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began to connect some of these things together in investigating
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the contamination of the polio vaccine with a number of
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different viruses, including a cancer causing monkey virus, the s
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V forty, now the SP forty has come into the
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news in recent months in connection with just exactly what
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you speculated it might have been connected with, namely cancers
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now appearing in human beings. Could you develop some of
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the information that is in these articles, and in particular
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some apparent modified limited hangout that you've come across.
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Yes, I do think it's a limited hangout, and I
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think they're doing a lot of spin control on it.
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When I first looked at the National Cancer Institute statistics
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for these sixteen years of the War on Cancer, between
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nineteen seventy two and nineteen eighty eight, there was a
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twenty percent increase in the overall cancer rate. And the
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interesting part was that if you take long out and
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you take the four soft tissue cancers, which we discussed
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a couple of minutes ago, all other cancers did not
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increase at all during that sixteen year period. They had
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a zero percent growth rate. And that is a very
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interesting starting point for the conversation the day. I'm sorry
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I forgot your question here. Well, one of.
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The things that I'm wondering about is when I spoke
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with you in June of nineteen ninety six, that three
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hour interview that is available from Spitfire and now also Wordsworth.
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By the way, I had never heard of the SV
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forty one. I never heard of it until I read
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your book. Since that time, the SV forty the issue
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of the contamination of the polio vaccine has begun to
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make it into the major news media. I've seen wire
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service credits, dealing with our wire service storage I should
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I should say dealing with that. And now to a
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certain extent, at least, there is some discussion of the
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possible implications of the SV forty contamination of the polio vaccine,
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and there is some discussion of the possibility that it's
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causing cancer. But in some of our off air conversations
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you've discussed some of the complexity as some of the
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complexities of the SV forty and some of the cancers
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that may have been caused by that. And it would
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appear that even in the discussion that's taken place so
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far in the public arena, there is an attempt at
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spin control or damage control, and that the true extent
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of the problem may be being obfuscated.
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Right, And thanks for the retracting me on that the
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issue is brain cancer, Okay, because when we looked at
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those statistics I just talked about, there was a fifth
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cancer that I almost considered putting into the soft tissue
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cancer epidemic. It had increased ten percent during that sixteen
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year period. Meaning if I had included that cancer, which
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is brain cancer, into the soft tissue cancer epidemic, all
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of the other thirty two cancers would have actually gone
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down and had a negative growth rate during that sixteen
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year period. The reason I did not include brain cancer
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in there was that the increase was only ten percent
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over sixteen years. The next cancer up was breast cancer
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that increased thirty seven percent, So I had to figure
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out whether brain cancer was in the group with the
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thirty seven sixty sixty to ninety percent increases or not.
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What's different and these press articles that are coming out
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in the spin control issues are there's a lot of
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attention given to breast can I mean to brain cancer.
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They're saying brain cancer is the only thing that we're
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willing to admit to that may be caused by the
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SV forty And their argument in there is very simple
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is that they can find evidence of the SV forty
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virus in the brain tumors. And what I think is interesting,
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having studied anatomy and physiology, anyone who's studied that, even
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on an introductory level, knows that nervous neurons in the
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nervous system and in the brain do not reproduce during
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the life of the human. When you're born, you have
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this the same number of neurons that you have when
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you die, well, things go well, or you may have
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less when you die, but you don't get anymore. They
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don't reproduce the way that all of the other tissues
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the body produces, and the soft tissues brass, prostate, and
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lymph et cetera, and the skin reproduce very quickly. And
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in the process of reproduction, the cell has to make
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a new cell, and they start tearing apart everything in
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the cell looking for the molecules they need to make
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the new cell. This is sort of the metabolism of
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to sell the digestion of the cell, and in the
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process of doing that, they destroy a lot of things
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in there, and they destroy viruses, et cetera. Neurons in
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the brain do not have those same metabolic needs. Therefore
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they don't go through those same metabolic steps, and they
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don't sit around and tear apart viruses. And therefore the
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only cells in the entire body that you're likely to
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find the DNA of SV forty inn are the brain cells.
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So if you construct an argument that says I will
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agree that SVS forty is causing the cancer, but only
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on the condition that we can find the virus in
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the tumor, then you have just constructed the medical equivalent
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of the single bullet theory, where the only circumstances under
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which you can prove the connection is in a case
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that is statistically so low that I personally didn't even
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bother to include it in the soft tissue cancer epidemic,
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not because it wasn't important, but just because the numbers
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weren't there.
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So, in other words, the people who have commented on
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the SV forty cancer a connection or the possibility are
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only willing to admit that brain cancer might be caused
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by SV forty because that's the only cancer in which
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they can detect traces of the actual virus. And what
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you're saying is that that is not at all relevant
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in terms of how many cancers might have been caused
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by the SB forty, because all other cells in the
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body and all the other types of cancers would necessarily
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have consumed the virus itself during the course of cellular reproduction.
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Right, And let me give you a scientist's perspective on this.
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Bernice Eddie was the chief safety tester of vaccines for
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the National Institute of Health, and she is one of
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the two people who discovered polyoma, the first cancer causing virus,
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and when she was asked why aren't we finding the
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virus in the tumors, she says, I don't know. I
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guess the body uses it up somehow. But it doesn't
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really matter because we're able to create the cancers by
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injecting animals with the polyomer with the SV forty, so
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we have a cause and effect relationship. It's doing something
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to the DNA to cause the cancer, but for some
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reason we're not finding it in the tumors that we
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know we created it when we go in and look.
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And that was the position in nineteen fifty nine, and frankly,
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I don't think it's changed much except for the fact
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that they've gotten into looking at brain tissue under electron
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microscopes and stuff, and they're able to find the SE
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forty in those particular cells. And I think all they're
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doing is trying to limit the damage because the damage
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is so big. I mean, it's five hundred thousand cases
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of cancer year. It's about a million, excuse me, one
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hundred and thirty million dollars a day of medical insurance premiums.
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And it is a real bete noir on the medical landscape.
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In fact, I found it interesting recently that Vice Posion
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in the United States, Al Gore went out to California
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and met with the chairman of one of the big
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movie studios out there and the chairman of the Motion
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Picture Association to discuss the correct messages that the movie
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industry should be saying about cancer. And I find that
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to be an awfully interesting step for the Vice President
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of United States to take.
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We've in your book you talk about another vice president
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of the United States, actually the former vice president would
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he had only been a vice president, Richard Nixon, who
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crops up in the context of this investigation in the
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nineteen fifties and sixties.
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Well, and this gets us to the heart of the
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political issue. If you go back to the nineteen fifties,
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nineteen fifty two to nineteen sixty, which was the Eisenhower administration,
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you will see that the Cold War was going on.
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That I was the former Supreme Allied Commander of the Army.
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He considered his primary responsibility to be to run the
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Cold War and expected his vice President, Richard Nixon, to
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be very involved in dealing with the Senate and running
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the domestic activities of the government. Additionally, during for several
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points during the Eisenhower's Eisenhower's eight year of presidency, he
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was sick and Nixon, as vice president, had to assume
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a lot of responsibilities and duties. It was during this
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time that these polio crises occurred. And when it came
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to firing the Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare, I
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guarantee you it wasn't the president that did it. It
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was the vice president had to go do it, and
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it was a vice president had to come up with
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a solution and replace him. And so Nixon was really
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holding the political roses on the issue of the polio vaccine.
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And when they found out that they had a problem
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with the polio vaccine, Nixon was the person who had
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the most to lose and was in the position to
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do the most about it. And in my personal opinion,
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he is the most likely candidate for the main political
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force behind this attempt to develop a vaccine to prevent
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the cancer epidemic that we are experiencing today. And that
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is really the critical issue as we get back to
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this linear particle accelerator, is there was if you remember
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Saban's theory that you didn't have to kill the virus,
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you just had to find a weak cousin, and you
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grow the week cousin and use that for the vaccine.
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So when they realized that SV forty was the virus
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that was causing the cancer and causing the tumors, they said, well,
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let's try to save in strategy on this virus. Let's
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see if we can find a weak cousin. And what
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you need in order to find a weak cousin is
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you need some variation, or if it doesn't want it
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very fast enough, you need some mutation. And so they
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decided to encourage or at least is my theory, that
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they decided to encourage the SV forty to mutate by
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subjecting it to radiation. And the way that they were
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able to control the doses of radiation was to use
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a machine that generated radiation, and that was a linear
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particle accelerator. And so they set up this secret laboratory
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down in New Orleans with heavily laundered government funds. Nobody
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knew what was going on. In fact, nobody knew it
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was a handful of people knew what was going on.
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To me, the best example I can give you of
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a comparable operation to this was the Manhattan Project when
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they developed the atomic bomb. Only a handful of people
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knew that was going on when it started out, and
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they had comparable type of money and comparable type of resources.
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What they were trying to do here was was develop
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a vaccine to prevent what they knew was going to
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be an enormous epidemic of cancer, and they didn't want
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to tell the public about it before they had a
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vaccine in hand. And in order to develop the vaccine,
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they were going to try to mutate these monkey viruses
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to see if they could grow a weaker strain.
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And hence the national security implications of exactly what you're
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talking about is something which could cause the mortality of
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a large percentage of the American population, not unlike what
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an H bomb or another of the descendants of the
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Manhattan Project might have done. I want to mention in
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passing it that though in connection with Richard Nixon, that
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he also was not only an intimate of Alt Knoxner,
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but was deeply involved with the entire Cuban situation and
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the efforts against Fidel Castro. Later presided over the so
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called War on Cancer, which you and other people such
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as doctor Leonard Horowitz, the author of emerging viruses have
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speculated may have resulted in the development of AIDS. I
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wonder briefly, before we get to the accelerator and the
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issue of cancer, could you briefly touch on some of
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your ruminations concerning the possible mutation of SV forty and
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how that might have led to AIDS.
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I'll be happy too. I'm going to write the word
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AIDS down here because I want to address your national
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security issue for a second, because it's an important part
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of the show.
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This just in passing, because you do mention in your
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book that the AIDS may have been one of the
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outgrowth of this chain of events.
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I'm going to do AIDS in just a second. I
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want to do fascism sec. Sure, a lot of people
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really don't understand what fascism is. They think it's going
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to something to do with gray uniforms and swatstickers and boots. Okay,
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and fascism exists without that. That was just the German
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version of it in the nineteen forties. That's a question
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of style, that's not a question of substance. If you
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believe that the public that the best decisions for a
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country are made when the public knows what's going on,
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and their representatives know what's going on, and we mutually
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discuss it and we come to a good decision. That's
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generally referred to as democracy. If you think the public
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ought to know about stuff, then you are on the
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side of democracy. If you think the public doesn't deserve
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to know about it, or are too young and illiterate
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and untrained in order to participate in these discussions, and
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you think these decisions ought to be made secretly, and
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there ought to be these things going on that we
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don't tell our congressman about, we don't tell the public about,
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and we lie to people because the truth is so painful.
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That is a much more efficient form of government called fascism. Okay.
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And so what you got to decide when you're hearing
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this stuff is should the government know the truth or not?
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And if you should, should the people know the truth?
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I'm sorry, should the people know the truth? I'm from
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the old school where the people were the government, you know,
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but should the people know the truth? And if you
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don't think the people should know the truth, then just
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to admit to yourself that you're a fascist, Okay. If
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you think that people should know the truth, then go
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ahead and enjoy being part of the democratic process. Now
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back to AIDS. In the monkeys that they used, there
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were a lots and lots of different viruses and one
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of the things they discovered was cross contamination. They discovered
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that these African monkeys got sick when they were caged
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with these Asian monkeys. They started getting cancers that the
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Asian monkeys didn't have. And what was happening was the
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Asian monkeys were immune to their own viruses, but the
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African monkeys were not. And then the African monkeys, the
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Asian monkeys started getting sick when they started getting infected
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with the African monkeys viruses, their immune system started collapsing.
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system was labeled SIV, the Simian meaning monkey, the Simian
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immuno deficiency virus, and the disease that these monkeys were
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getting is referred to as SADES or Simian AIDS. It's
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identical to human AIDS with a little a little bit
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a twist here. The point is when they started researching
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the AIDS epidemic and they found the human immuno deficiency
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virus HIV one the nearest ancestor they confined to it
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was the Simian immuno deficiency virus from the African green monkey.
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had been mutated somehow, and nobody has ever addressed this mutation.
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a laboratory that was using a linear particle accelerator to
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shoot a whole test tubes full of monkey blood with radiation,
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then it was not unreasonable to assume that the high
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powered radiation they were using may have mutated the genetic
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structure of some of those viruses. And some of the
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viruses that were in those test tubes were very likely
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to be the similar SIV, the Semian immuno deficiency virus,
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and therefore we had a very logical explanation for how
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SIV could have been mutated into what is now HIV.
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sort of great detail on the genetic structure and who
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are the sources on this, but they're all national mainstream
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people like Robert Gallo, for example, was the big name
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in Luke Montaigner from the past Year Institute. And the
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possibility is there I don't want to call it any
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more than the theory, but the possibility is there that
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the reason that SIV mutated into HIV was at some
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point and by someone, it was subjected to a radioactive
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beam admitted from a linear particle particle accelerator, and that
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is how the genetic structure got changed in the HIV one.
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who study this on the genetic level refer to the
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difference between HIV one and SIV with the monkey virus
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and the human virus as fast forwarding, because that's the
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only way they can explain what happened to the genetic
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sequence during that time.
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I want to note in passing that whenever one is
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dealing with a covert operation, it is frequently difficult to
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achieve closure, and one is often left with informed speculation
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with regard to the possibility of AIDS and also the
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certainty that we have people like David Ferry and others
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and this MELIU playing with cancer causing monkey viruses. We
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should note that whatever the culpability of any given individual
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in this scenario with the assassination of President Kennedy, it
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seems probable that elements of this anti Castro Cuban melieu
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and this intelligence connected melieu were involved with the assassination
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of President Kennedy. And we should note that this was
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definitely a melieu which was accustomed to the use of
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deadly force in order to achieve political ends. And many
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of these people, such as Guy Banister, were avowedly racist.
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So when examining the other kinds of activities that some
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of these people were involved in, and they were accustomed
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to killing in a political context, many of them were
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outright bigots. We should note that some of the things
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that they had their hands on cancer causing viruses, the
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ability to mutate some of those viruses, and possibly the
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viruses which led to aid. This is a very sobering thought.
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And whether one is blowing out the brains of a
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president riding through Dallas, Texas, or whether one is injecting
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viruses that will kill somebody if you don't deem that
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person worthy of keeping alive, this is essentially two different
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strings on the same yo yo, the yo yo of mortality.
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To coin a phrase, I think the single most dangerous
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thing that I ran across and here is that the viruses,
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the mutated viruses, the newly mutated viruses that were deadly
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got left in the hands of David Ferry. And David
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Ferry and I do a chapter on him in the book,
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but he was someone with a pathologically unstable personality. He
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was a self admitted violent political extremist who wanted to
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overthrow Castro's government with violent force, and as you said,
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he had a lot of racist tendencies in there. Ferry
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was also a pilot that was capable of getting in car,
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driving to the airport and flying to places like Haiti
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by himself without anybody's permission or supervision. And because he
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was depressive and unstable and had a whole history of
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nervous breakdowns and stuff, he was a very bad choice
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to leave these mutated viruses in. If there's ever a
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case where a dangerous weapon or a destructive weapon got
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left in the hands of a dangerous person, I think
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this is it. It's our level of accountability on this
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is right out of the window. This operation should have
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been in a high security area with proper supervision, and
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because they didn't want anybody to know about it, they
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put it in a remote situation with low supervision, and
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we got left with a unstable personality like David Ferry
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being left with a virus which was viruses which were
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capable of causing global epidemics in his hands, and God
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only knows what Todd David Ferry did with him.
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And again note that David Ferry worked for Guy Banister,
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an individual who published the Louisiana Intelligence Digest, which portrayed
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the American civil rights movement as part of a communist conspiracy,
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a former FBI agent and operator for the Office of
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Naval Intelligence, and perhaps in some cases former should be
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in quotes. And Ferry also worked for Carlos Marcello ahead
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of the New Orleans mafia in the milieu that you
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discussed in connection with medical and national security matters. Of course,
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we crop up we come across the investigation into President
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Kennedy's assassination. We have about six or seven minutes left
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at any new insights into the Kennedy assassination or anything
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that we can expect in the second edition of your book.
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I don't know if it's going to get in the
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second edition or not. There let me give you my
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basic read on this. When we determined that the linear
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particle accelerator was located at the US Public Health Service
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Hospital in New Orleans. That was a major discovery because
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it meant the real secret lab, what I called the
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big Lab now as opposed to ferious lab, which is
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the little lab, was on government property. It was financed
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with millions of dollars from the government treasury. It was
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a formal covert operation of the United States government. When
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I realized that, I picked up a telephone and called
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a friend of mine who happens to be a JFK researcher,
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but she's also an attorney and a good thinker. And
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I said, we found the accelerator And she said, well,
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where was it? And I said at the US Public
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Health Service Hospital. And she said, hold the phone, and
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she tied the word US Public Health Service Hospital into
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her computer and she said, that's interesting. It's in volume nineteen.
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I said, Volum nineteen of what she said, Warren Commission Report.
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I said, what are you talking about? She said, the
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FBI went to the US Public Health Service Hospital in
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New Orleans on Monday, November twenty five, nineteen sixty three.
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That's the Monday following the Kennedy assassination and the day
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after Oswalt's murder, looking for evidence of Lee Harvey Oswald
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or his alias doctor A. J. Hydell, because they found
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a vaccination card from that facility, which had been approved
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by the World Health Organization in Oswald's possessions in Dallas
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the day they arrested him. And when I found that out,
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I yanked out my New Orleans map and looked at it,
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and Oswald's apartment in New Orleans was less than one
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mile from that facility. And then all of a sudden
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I came back to what Jim Garrison had said, Why
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did Oswald have all this spy equipment on him, like
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cameras and telescopes and pedometers and compasses and all this stuff.
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And there is a very real possibility here that Lee
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Harvey Oswald was an agent of one of the departments
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of the United States Government who was spying on other
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departments in the United States government. His role in New Orleans,
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in part, was to document what was going on at
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this secret medical laboratory because the White House didn't know
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because somebody had wiped out the pay per trail in
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the last days of the Nixon administration. So there is
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a very real possibility that Oswald was involved in all
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this stuff with his laboratory and was an agent of
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the United States government, which is why he was passing
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information back to Justice Department officials on Camp Street down
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in New Orleans, as was testified to by the Adrian
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alb who are in the garage, and it's in the
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Warrent Commission report and stuff. So from the JFK point
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of view, that all that stuff relates to all this stuff,
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and it all happened in the same place at the
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same time in New Orleans, and that when the particle accelerator,
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in my opinion, was babotaged, somebody went and messed with
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wiring to create a high profile event which wound up
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in killing doctor Sherman. Doctor Sherman may not have been
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the target on that doctor Ashtner may have been the target.
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But it all happened the morning that the Warren Commission
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investigation started in New Orleans, and to blow up a
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secret government laboratory whose prime sponsors were involved in framing
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Oswald before the assassination on the morning that the Warren
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Commission investigation started in New Orleans, in my opinion, was
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an intelligence operation designed to start a media storm of
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attention to screw up the whole game plan of the
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Warren Commission, so they couldn't come off with the low
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nut theory.
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Any idea as to who might have done that sabotage,
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obviously this is speculative.
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Well, I'm going to ask you to think about it
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on your own. The point is, whoever did it knew
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more than the Warren commiss She wanted the public to know.
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They knew about Oswald, they knew about Oschner's role in
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framing Oswald, they knew about this laboratory, They knew who.
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The question, if you really want to ask it is
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who would expose in laboratory? Destroy? And it would destroy
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the political sponsors the laboratory, which in my opinion was
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probably Richard Nixon originally, and so would have to be
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an enemy of Richard.
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Nixon's possibly forces associated then with the Kennedys. I mean,
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that is pure speculation, someone that might not have wanted
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to cover up to follow through. We should note as
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a general consideration that, as one author described the world
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of intelligence, it is a wilderness of mirrors to a
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certain extent, and obviously it's a meliau that is entirely
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or primarily clandestine. Covert operations are not conducted out in
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the open, and we have about two minutes left. You
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are now coming out with a second edition of your book,
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are you not?
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Yes, I am. I'm just updating the first one with
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a continuing research because I just keep getting more information
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and it needs to be updated and expanded. But it's
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it's ready now, and if people want the new edition,
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that's what they will get when when they order the book.
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Monkey X.
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Well, once again repeat the phone number and the address
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for people that would like to order the second edition,
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and be in minded that there are stations that we'll
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be hearing just this half hour segment in an individual
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airing some era a full hours, I just a half.
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Hour, okay. The eight hundred number is one eight hundred
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monkey X. That's m O n K E y X.
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The numeric version of that is one eight hundred excuse me,
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six six six five three nine nine. If you call that,
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you'll get a two minute message which talks about the
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book and gives out this address that I'm about to
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give to you. So if you drive in a truck
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right now and can't write this down, you can always
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call one eight hundred monkey X. The address is Wordsworth
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W O R D S w O R t H.
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That's all one word wordsworth. The address is seventy two
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hundred Montgomery m O N T G O M E
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r I number two eighty, Albuquerque, New Mexico. You can
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abbreviate Albuquerque ABQ period New Mexico is NM, and the
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ZIP is eight seven one oh nine. Again, the zip
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code is eight seven one O nine.
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I should also note that this and other interviews featuring
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Ed Haslam are available from the tape duplication service called spitfire.
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That's one word s p I T F I R E.
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Mailing address PO box one one seven nine, ben Lowman, California,
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zip code nine five zero zero five. Those of you
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have access to the World Wide Web should point your
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web browser at www dot kf JC dot org. That's
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www dot kf JC dot org and look in the
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public affairs section forehead Haslim. This is Dave Emory saying
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thanks for listening.