VisionQuest (MCU/ Disney+) Primer - Avengers Icons: The Vision

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Right now on Source Pages, our WandaVision, Agatha all along,
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and Vision Quest journey is about to come to an end.
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We are doing a primer for Vision Quest, and we
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can't wait. But first... As.
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The news messages, we'll be right back.
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Shh! It's time for the podcast.
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Welcome back, my fellow high school Greco-Roman wrestlers. I'm Brian B.
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Klein. I'm Haley Hobbs.
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And this is Source Pages, and Haley's probably confused, but
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I'll get to that in a second. We read comics
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and novels as primers and all that good stuff. And
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if you guys know, what I was referring to was
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the 1985... wrestling movie with Matthew Modine, who was Papa
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in Stranger Things, called Vision Quest.
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Man, that cut is so deep that I think you
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might be the only one who knows it.
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I think the thing that it was most famous for
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was it had a number one hit from Madonna called
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Crazy for You as the love theme from it.
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I believe you.
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Sometimes, I guess they can get away with it because
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that was Vision Quest, two words, and this one is
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Vision Quest... One word.
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Like WandaVision. Yeah.
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So it's like Agatha Allalong.
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Yeah.
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That's three words, actually.
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She's her own little dark horse. It's okay that she
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was not following form.
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No. Plus, wasn't Agatha Allalong like the 17th and final
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different name for that show anyway?
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I forgot about all the names I had. Yeah, you're right.
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Harkness, Hail, whatever.
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I don't remember all the ones. Good callback because, yeah,
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there were a lot of them.
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Um, speaking of all those things, I can't remember what, um,
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who's the creator of all these shows. What's her name?
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Jack Schaefer.
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Was it Jack? Okay. Who is the writer then? Who's
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the one that's basically in charge of doing the, um, uh,
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reboot of Stargate?
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Jack Schaefer.
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Is it Jack Schaefer? Yes.
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She wrote, she, yeah, she's like the showrunner and the
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writer from four of these.
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So that was my point is that she is, uh,
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now in charge to be the showrunner at the second
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attempt to reboot, uh, Stargate at Amazon. Now Stargate is a,
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if you guys don't know, it was a, it was
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a Showtime franchise that went to Syfy after the original
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movie from the, um, it was a basically a sequel
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to the original movie starring, um, well, speaking of this,
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it had, um, Kurt Russell and, uh, Ultron. I can't
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think of his name.
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James Spader.
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James Spader as the main character. So, um, it, The
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first two series, Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis, set a
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perfect tone for those sci-fi shows. It had humor. It
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had action. It had sci-fi elements. It gave us Jason Momoa.
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That was the first day. He's pretty much the only one.
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I'd be a knock against it, but whatever.
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The first series had Richard Dean Anderson as the linchpin.
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That was MacGyver. It was Canadian stuff, or Canadian actors
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and producers. And it had the, then they had a
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third series called Stargate Universe, which was made after and
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during the time of Battlestar Galactica. So they decided to
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change the tone of it and make it more serious.
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Remember how like the superhero movies were one way and
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then Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy wanted to make him dark
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and edgy. And it was sort of like that was
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a tone. And then Iron Man just said, yeah, give
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you the big middle finger saying we're going back to
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what it was. And it's that whole Dark Knight side
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of it has sort of gone by the wayside. That's
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what happened to Stargate, is they tried to make it
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more Battlestar Galactica, and it fell flat. It lost everything
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that made it what it was, and they tried to
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make it feel like Battlestar, and it was just like,
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this doesn't work. So, hopefully, the tone of those shows
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and writing is right up the same alley as this
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trilogy of, I mean, we don't know anything, although I've
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been reading a lot of the good quick synopses of
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people that have seen the show already, Vision Quest, and
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are like, it's the perfect way to end this thing.
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Getting rave reviews, of course.
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Yeah, but I think that she can grab that tone
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and mixture of characters, which we know that we can,
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you know, Agatha Harkness came out of nowhere, and she
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was like a D-level character in, maybe C-level, comic book character,
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and made it into a household name. They had a
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top 40 song. because of the little diddy that they had.
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So as long as you can write and get all that,
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the characters right. And the blend, like the mixture of
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humor and make it still serious, but you also have
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to have, you know, you can't everything be at the
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end of the day where you go like, wow, that
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was great. But it's so heavy that it just, it,
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it does the seriousness of it, of it is just
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crashes down on itself.
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So yeah. And like I said to you, I am
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sad that she was supposed to be the showrunner for
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Fourth Wing at Amazon, and she left, and obviously she
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left to do this. And I just would really love
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to see her at the helm of that show, but
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that's okay. I think it'll be fine. Michael B. Jordan
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is producing it, so it'll probably be good.
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The Fourth Wing? I saw a thing.
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I told Liz to read those a long time ago.
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I think I got one of the books I got
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for free. It's sitting in my Audible library. Whichever book
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was released a year ago.
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Onyx Storm.
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I did read something recently. I forgot what movie we
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went and saw. Maybe it was Spider. Maybe it was Spider-Man.
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This movie sort of has a very tone of Black Panther.
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And it's based on books.
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Oh, is it The Children of Bone and Blood?
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Yes. Where the writer of it's like.
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And the writer is like, has nothing to do with it.
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This is the name. It's like, it's that, I know,
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the in-name only. She's like, whoever did.
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It is completely butchered. She hates something about it, yeah.
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So they basically wheel the timed thing, so.
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Yeah. I, I don't, I haven't read children of blood
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and bone, but yeah, that's, that movie is going to
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be overshadowed with that narrative. Like it already is.
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Right. And that was like, she didn't even like go
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out and do it on her. They asked her the question.
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And so she's like, if you really want to know,
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here it is. Like she didn't want to promote herself
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for it, but they're sort of like, Hey, what's going
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on with it? No idea. Just sort of like they
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took the IP and went, you know?
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Yeah.
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Took it and did what they wanted. Was it a
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Disney produced thing or is that one that was Disney
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and then they lost it?
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I just saw something about New York Comic Con with
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that too. Because they already.
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Have a trailer out. Because I saw it and I go, wow,
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this very much looks like Black Panther.
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Yes. Go away, ad thing. I'm trying to read this article.
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Hey!
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Hey!
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Was this the thing? Okay, so who is... Okay, and
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I'm going to lose....
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She was supposed to have a Comic-Con panel where she
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was going to promote another book, but she canceled it.
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Paramount is the one adopting.
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Children of Blood and Bone. Because there was a... Okay,
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this is the one that I'm thinking of. When it
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was in Disney Plus' hands, Rick... I always butcher his name. Famuia?
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Famuia. Famuia.
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Famuia, whatever, was set as a showrunner and director of
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it in 2019. And then in March 2019, Walt Disney
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Company acquired Fox, blah, blah, blah. Went to Lucasfilm, wanting
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to focus on intellectual properties. Lucasfilm quietly put the project
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in the turnaround and eventually allowed the film rights to lapse.
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In 23, it was announced at Paramount Pictures. So this
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is the one that Rick Pamuia was supposed to be
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in charge of.
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Pamuia. It's not that hard.
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Well, no, his name is spelled F-M-A-U-I.
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I know.
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But it's Wea, not Yeewa.
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When I hear people pronounce it, that's how I hear
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them pronounce it. Pamuia.
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Okay.
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Okay. Yeah.
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So that was that. So anyways, this was one of the,
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there wasn't a lot that really came out of New
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York comic con this year.
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Well, that's okay because a lot of big stuff has
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already been announced and happening.
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And obviously you weren't going.
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To get everybody's kind of like playing it close now.
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Right. We weren't going to get anything from Lucasfilm, although
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we got a couple of book things that, Yeah, the third.
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I've got it pulled up here. The third book in
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the Reign of the Empire series is going to be
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called From the Ashes. I have that second one in Audible.
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I just haven't started listening to it yet because I
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keep getting like library holds that are coming up. I'll
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get to it. Claudia Gray, Queen Claudia of Star Wars
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book renown, is doing a YA Leia novel called Star
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Wars Princess of the Rebellion. We've had a lot of
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Leia novels lately. I liked most of them. Of course,
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I didn't like the one they just did, but I
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must say the cover art on that book is beautiful.
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Are you talking about Legacy? Yeah. I finished Legacy. And honestly, okay,
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so I'm listening to the audio book and they're dealing
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with some stuff with Kylo Ren. And I look and
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I go, there's like 13 minutes left in this book.
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And I go, did I not have $ 1? downloaded? And
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then the book just ends. Like, what was the, literally
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I go, was this, I remember something about them trying
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to fix, go to Titan to fix Luke's lightsaber. It's
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like non-existent. Yeah, but then there's this existential crisis where
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Rey almost drowns and then dies of frostbite. There's this
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annoying kid who is the bad guy that isn't the
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bad guy. Anyways, I got done with it going, this
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honestly might be the most pointless Star Wars novel I've
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ever read. I've read some bad ones, but at least
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it had a point.
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It could have been really cool. I thought that it
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was going to be cool based on the premise, and
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then it just wasn't. It was so boring and repetitive.
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I'm sorry. if you like star Wars, like I say,
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good for you.
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Um, there's some manga coming out, manga, however you say that.
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There's a bunch of, since next year is 50 years
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of the, uh, new hope. There's a lot of like
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that kind of thing, a celebration of blah, blah, blah.
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Oh, they announced a novelization of star fighter coming out
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in June.
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Delilah S Dawson is writing it. I do like her. She's,
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she's more consistent for me than not. And then they're
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going to do a visual dictionary. You sent me this,
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which I had seen for comics, Ahsoka Escape from Thrawn,
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which is not going to be just a retelling like
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some of these comics have been of the show.
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No, that's going to be, Filoni wrote it, and it's
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going to be Ezra, how he survived that whole time
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on Peridia, waiting for them to get, you know, so
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it's actually kind of like.
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This is cool. So that's going to be cool. Um, no,
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that was, that was about it. Those are the highlights.
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There was a, maybe we'll have to cover it too,
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because we haven't talked about it yet, but Kevin Smith
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is writing a five or six part, uh, comic book
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for Marvel in it, where one of, it seems like
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one of Dr. Strangers or a spell goes wrong. And
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the characters from star Wars go to the six one,
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six comic universe.
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Oh, I have seen that.
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Because there's that picture where you've got Darth Vader and
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he's got his arm up and he's wearing the Infinity Gauntlet.
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And it is MCU.
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That goes hard.
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It's not like.
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That's pretty cool.
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Because you have to sit there and think like if
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the characters come over and here's Mace Windu, everyone's going
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to be like, you're Nick Fury. What's going on here?
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Yeah.
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Especially because they have to know. That's the one kind
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of thing that irks me sometimes. We know that Star Wars,
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that whole thing exists in the MCU because of Spider-Man.
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There's been two movies where they mentioned there's a Death
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Star Lego thing. But yet they're dealing with these guys
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who are in Star Wars, in the movies, and they're
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in the MCU too as actors. You know what I'm saying? Right.
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But is that comic series going to be canon?
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No, but I'm saying is like if Tom Holland sees
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Nick Fury and goes, wow, you look just like Mace Windu,
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Samuel L. Jackson from the Star Wars movies.
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Oh, I see what you mean.
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See what I'm saying? It's just a weird little.
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That's funny.
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I have started, after I did finish Legacy, I started
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reading that Low Red Moon, which is the Star Wars Outlaws.
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It's also a little too long, but I liked it.
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The thing is, though, the characters, the two main characters,
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so Jaden and Slyro... we know like right away in,
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cause the book takes place way before the game. I
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started replaying the game and I get, I literally started
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the game and cause the Jaden and Slyro don't really
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come into the game till halfway through. And so the
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commando droid and Jaden and Slyro are all there. So
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now I'm listening to this book going, okay, they're going
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to find out that this happens because I know already,
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I had this pre-knowledge listening to the book, which actually
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kind of was like, Because half the book, or most
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of the book, is Jaden trying to find out what
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happened to his half-brother. Not realizing that it is what
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it is. But we know that already if you're playing
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the game. So it's sort of like a prequel type thing.
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But it's actually a lot... I mean, it's interesting. You
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don't know any of these characters in this book at all.
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There's a couple of references they have to things that
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are going on. Because it takes place right at the
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end of the Clone Wars. And then it jumps like
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nine years ahead.
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So... it's right.
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You know that what they're doing and who's, who's like
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the power players in there. But with it being whole cloth,
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you care about a lot of these characters, like the droid,
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who is a commando droid as reprogrammed and sort of like, wow,
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he has some aspects that are very interesting and it
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makes it where you want. Anyways, okay, that was Cora
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for your listeners out there going, I don't know what
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that was.
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I don't know what she's upset about. Life, probably.
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Someone was knocking on the door maybe or something. I
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don't know.
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I don't know. No, I don't know. She's just a disaster,
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but I love her.
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She's going crazy upstairs.
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She's like going absolutely nuts.
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If you hear residual background noise while we're talking about
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this comic series, it's just Cora being Cora.
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It's just Cora.
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Don't write us asking us if we're all okay. Everything's fine.
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If you ask Cora, she would probably say she's not.
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How are you? She would probably say she's not okay,
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but she is.
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So, All right, we're going back almost 25 years here.
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24 years.
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I know! But you know what? This held up pretty
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well for an early aughts comic.
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Yeah, because it pretty much has, I mean, there is
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still what they like calling the fan service when it
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comes to a lot of the drawing. I mean, one
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of the main characters in here where she literally is
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wearing a, a button-down, half-button-down shirt, which is.
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Well, we have to show midriffs.
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Yeah, midriffs and just buxom and going like, okay, that's whatever.
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You like boobs?
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Yeah.
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Teenage boys are the guys that are reading this. But anyways,
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Avengers icon, The Vision. If you guys don't know who
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The Vision is, or Vision, or whatever, this is a
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different take on it. than one that we're normally used to.
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Which makes sense.
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Because Jeff Johns wrote it, and he writes some interesting
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stuff sometimes.
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Right. Yeah, so he is the writer. And the first
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issue of this, of this four-issue limited series, came out
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in August of 2002. And Ivan Rees, Joe Pimentel, and
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Chris Sotomayor is the... I'm so glad I know how
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to pronounce his name, because it looks at it and
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goes Sotomayor. But it's Sotomayor.
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Sotomayor, yeah.
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Sotomayor. That's how H & M always... Sotomayor. pronounced it
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when i was listening to i didn't realize like most
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of those marvel shows because you're saying like the new
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york marvel office is gone so like we talked about
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that i know but a lot of the shows that
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came out of there and stuff are just not existing
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anymore because they were based in new york yeah maybe
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they're just worried that they've got they got the hell
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out of new york because that's where all the damage
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and destruction happens.
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I mean they've got iman valani and that guy from
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the basement yard podcast doing the countdown to doomsday yeah.
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So issue one is called Yesterday and Today, and it
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starts in Queens, New York.
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Yesterday and Tomorrow.
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That's right.
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Okay.
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I even wrote Tomorrow, but I'm so used to saying
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Yesterday and Today. Yesterday and Tomorrow. Queens, New York, August 31st, 1939.
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I'm assuming this is the New York World's Fair or
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some World's Fair or some expo or something that they
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used to have before we had better ways to communicate
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with people.
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They even call it the one that Tony uses in
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Iron Man 2.
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Okay.
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Not the Stark Expo. They call it the world. Yes, something.
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I don't know.
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I need to get my mic a little bit better here.
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So there is Professor Phineas T. Horton, who is going
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to do his little spiel called The Vision of Tomorrow.
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And it is this robot that is sentient. And everyone's like,
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how do you get to make it walk? How do
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you get to do this? And it's like, he's got
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a solar gem I made on his forehead, like the
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Mind Stone. And then it catches fire and everyone leaves.
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And they're just like, yeah, whatever.
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Hack.
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But then all of a sudden, Vision starts speaking. And
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he goes, wait, how are you speaking? And one of
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the reporters comes back and is talking to him. And
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he steals a gem. And he's pretty much like, Auf Wiedersehen.
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He's a Nazi.
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World War II.
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Yeah, he's a Nazi. And he goes, go get him.
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But he's inoperative now because he doesn't have the stone.
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But he was just, you know, he was talking to him.
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So it was like, this is weird. So we go
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to modern day Queens, 2002. And there's some kind of
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energy crisis going on because they're worried about electricity and
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blackouts and this and that. And this kid, Derek Hoffman,
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is IMing somebody about conspiracy theories.
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It was very nostalgic, I must say.
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It was cool. The way that they focused in the
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IM from AOL. That whole type thing. I thought it
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was cool where they mentioned, that gremlin from the episode
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Nightmare at 20,000 Feet at Twilight Zone was an actual thing.
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And they're like, okay, whatever, dude.
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So, yeah.
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There's problems with blackouts. And so his dad, Derek's dad,
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who comes in and he kind of seems at first,
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I make him seem like he's the typical single dad, drunk,
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yelling at his kid. But no, it's Steve Hoffman, and
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he is an Air Force pilot. And so Derek is
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an Air Force brat, and he keeps moving him around.
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And of course, he doesn't like it. And they're talking
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about how his grandpa was in World War II and
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that his plane went down and he died. because of
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these gremlins. Gremlins is a very central word.
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Gremlins with a capital G.
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So, later on, they're sleeping, and all of a sudden,
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Vision comes onto the kid's computer, and he's like, yesterday
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is tomorrow. And the kid's like, what's going on here?
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He looks, his thing is unplugged, his computer is unplugged,
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and So, one of the things the guy who was
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IMing Derek said is, like, go outside, because I guess
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they're on the army base or close to, like, there's
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restricted areas on the army base. It's haunted.
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Yeah.
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And so, he gets.
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I think they're just in Queens, but.
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Maybe he's.
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Yeah, there's, like, there's an area that's, like, all fenced
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off and.
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Right, which I'm assuming if he's moving around, they're living
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on a base or close to him. Army bases are
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very pertinent.
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I didn't get that from it, but yeah, I know
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what you mean.
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There's a close area that's cordoned off, and he gets chased,
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and this guy comes to smash his camera, and it's
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the vision of tomorrow. Now, this is creepy vision. I
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call it skele-vision. Mm-hmm. because he looks like, imagine comic vision,
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green and yellow, but you could see like the skull
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and like Ultron almost part of his, because the vision
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of tomorrow.
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Not exoskeleton, his Inno skeleton.
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Yeah. It sort of looked like, like Ultron a bit
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like comics version of Ultron.
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Yeah.
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Also human skull.
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The one we see at the fair is like all
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silver metal. He doesn't have the red and green. So
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he's like, developed the red and green throughout, you know,
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being quote alive all of this time, apparently, but it
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doesn't always stay.
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No, it's he, it's, that's kind of, cause sometimes, and especially,
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you know, it's weird to say when vision gets bad,
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his like skill of vision purse personality comes out too.
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So that was the end of issue one, issue two,
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I have the beholder. It starts off with back in time. Again,
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Phineas is lamenting that he never was famous. He's like,
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I never got to be as big as Stark and blah, blah, blah. Like, okay.
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Go back to the present. Derek and Vision are chatting.
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He fixes his camera. Baraculously, Vision does. Yeah. He's a synthezoid.
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And they just happen to be at Phineas's grave where
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he died. Or not where he died, but he died.
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Or he's buried. Yeah, Vision did not realize. And we
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have no reason to know why Vision just showed up
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now anywhere. But there is a note on, like there's
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flowers and stuff on the grave. And it's like, thank
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you for securing my future, Grandpa. And it's from this person, Victoria.
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So this helicopter starts shooting at them for some apparent reason.
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I didn't know where you hear the thump, thump, thump
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in this. And so they are running and there's explosions
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going on and the cops show up and they're calling
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in the fire department and this net and vision and
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Derek's Derek escape, but they need to have a car
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that has no GPS on it. So they, It doesn't
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get controlled.
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I love, because this is 2002, he was like, this
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has the GPS guidance system. It's from a satellite. It
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can find us because that was so new back then.
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Yeah, I know.
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It was like, we thought we were in the space age.
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It was very funny. I literally know now. So they
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end up grabbing Derek's dad's car. Like, they steal Derek's
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dad's car. And he sees them and he's like, get
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back here with my car.
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He's like, Derek, no!
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Vision then tells Derek that he's like, I need to
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find the one person that can help me and do
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so without any technology to find them. So there is
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something that is tracking them through CCTV and they're connected
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somewhat to Vision. It's got tentacles and stuff and it's
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at this airport control room and then all of a
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sudden it disappears but his eyes are glowing underneath the desk.
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So you start like... Ooh, maybe just keep talking about
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these gremlins and everything. So they drive this car, the
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dead stolen car, to Vision's birthplace, which is Phineas' old
486
00:24:37.329 --> 00:24:41.130
house lab slash everything. And he said he was betrayed
487
00:24:41.170 --> 00:24:44.500
by technology way too many times in the past. So
488
00:24:44.559 --> 00:24:48.460
he has everything written down, hard copies, this and that, which,
489
00:24:48.539 --> 00:24:50.140
by the way, if it was taking place in the
490
00:24:50.420 --> 00:24:52.740
40s and 50s, that's the way it would have been
491
00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:54.960
anyway because he didn't have computers and everything. So.
492
00:24:56.339 --> 00:24:59.599
Well, but he would have been alive when computers were invented.
493
00:24:59.940 --> 00:25:03.700
Well, you never know. That gap between when Phineas was
494
00:25:03.740 --> 00:25:06.349
alive and when Phineas died and Vision came back, that's
495
00:25:06.380 --> 00:25:08.730
a whole big, like, you don't know. That's not a
496
00:25:08.769 --> 00:25:09.990
portion of the story.
497
00:25:10.109 --> 00:25:13.970
Oh, I see what you're saying. He's just, yeah, I
498
00:25:14.009 --> 00:25:14.269
got you.
499
00:25:14.430 --> 00:25:17.609
He basically is going there because he has to, you know,
500
00:25:18.210 --> 00:25:21.869
figure out who the person is that could help him.
501
00:25:22.450 --> 00:25:25.609
So he does his phase, like, they're trying to get
502
00:25:25.670 --> 00:25:28.329
through They get in and everything's locked and Vincent just
503
00:25:28.349 --> 00:25:30.519
faces through the door and Derek's like, what did you
504
00:25:30.579 --> 00:25:35.039
just do? He's like, whatever. I can't do that. We'll
505
00:25:35.059 --> 00:25:38.160
get to that later. So they find out that there's
506
00:25:38.180 --> 00:25:42.200
this person, Victoria Anderson, who's like, what is this Penn State?
507
00:25:43.049 --> 00:25:50.150
All one word. It's a college that is in Pennsylvania,
508
00:25:50.190 --> 00:25:52.170
which is a town or a state that's a couple
509
00:25:52.190 --> 00:25:55.730
of states away from us because they're in Queens. And
510
00:25:55.750 --> 00:25:59.210
then we go over to Penn State where Victoria Anderson
511
00:25:59.390 --> 00:26:02.619
is not a great student. She is a party girl,
512
00:26:02.660 --> 00:26:03.099
pretty much.
513
00:26:03.940 --> 00:26:05.079
And, you know.
514
00:26:05.099 --> 00:26:07.700
Just a typical, like, I got money to go to college.
515
00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:10.420
I'm going to go and have fun. And they're talking about,
516
00:26:10.779 --> 00:26:15.730
it's keg stand Tuesday. It's like, okay. So back in
517
00:26:15.769 --> 00:26:18.210
New York, we're in LaGuardia Airport. And there is a
518
00:26:18.309 --> 00:26:22.869
plane that is taking off to go to Penn, like
519
00:26:23.109 --> 00:26:27.730
the airport that's by Penn State. And the gremlin just
520
00:26:27.849 --> 00:26:30.150
pops in and takes over the pilot. And he's like,
521
00:26:30.190 --> 00:26:34.670
take me to the granddaughter. The world is gremlin. And
522
00:26:34.950 --> 00:26:39.559
that's the end of that issue. Issue three, the penultimate
523
00:26:39.599 --> 00:26:42.259
issue in this run, is called Father of the Machine.
524
00:26:43.940 --> 00:26:46.039
This is where it gets confusing because there's so many
525
00:26:46.099 --> 00:26:50.180
different people involved here. But the gremlin crashes the plane.
526
00:26:50.200 --> 00:26:53.259
And... Yes.
527
00:26:53.720 --> 00:27:00.160
They're in LaGuardia still, or cause there's multiple gremlins that
528
00:27:00.180 --> 00:27:01.940
we find out later. That's the only thing I went
529
00:27:01.980 --> 00:27:04.089
back and it's like, okay, there's multiple gremlins. So the
530
00:27:04.180 --> 00:27:06.289
one that crashed might've been a different one, but anyways,
531
00:27:07.210 --> 00:27:09.930
Derek and vision are like, we're going to drive. And
532
00:27:10.349 --> 00:27:13.190
from Queens, I did, I actually Googled this from Queens
533
00:27:13.269 --> 00:27:16.519
to Penn state is about 250 miles. So it's like
534
00:27:16.559 --> 00:27:19.160
a four and a half, five hour drive. So, um,
535
00:27:19.750 --> 00:27:21.730
There happens to be, must have left early enough because
536
00:27:21.750 --> 00:27:25.309
there is a party going on and Victoria is at
537
00:27:25.329 --> 00:27:27.269
this party and she gets hit on by this guy
538
00:27:27.289 --> 00:27:28.690
and she's like, oh, leave me alone. So she runs
539
00:27:28.710 --> 00:27:32.859
back up to her room. She's got a necklace, which
540
00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:35.640
there's this little gem on it that she got from
541
00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:38.359
her grandpa. Like, oh, I wonder what that is. And
542
00:27:38.420 --> 00:27:41.740
she goes in the bathroom. Oh yeah. It's kind of yellowish.
543
00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:44.420
Looks like a solar gem maybe. So she goes into
544
00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:47.539
the bathroom to try to like, you know, wipe the
545
00:27:47.599 --> 00:27:51.339
creep out of her mind. When, through the mirror, Skelevision
546
00:27:52.019 --> 00:27:55.960
just shows up through it. Like, this is not something that's.
547
00:27:55.839 --> 00:27:57.039
Right out of a horror movie.
548
00:27:57.539 --> 00:27:59.400
Yeah. Like, if it was me, I would have been like,
549
00:27:59.740 --> 00:28:00.789
holy Jesus.
550
00:28:00.809 --> 00:28:02.109
I think she wasn't on the toilet.
551
00:28:02.829 --> 00:28:08.309
I know. So, he basically just comes out and it
552
00:28:08.329 --> 00:28:10.769
was like, my memory cells are damaged. My nanite nerve
553
00:28:10.809 --> 00:28:13.130
mesh is scrambled. Can you please fix it? And she goes,
554
00:28:13.369 --> 00:28:15.109
it's funny because there's like two or three panels of
555
00:28:15.150 --> 00:28:19.630
her just with the same look on her face. Like, what? What?
556
00:28:19.930 --> 00:28:23.339
She's just confused. Yeah, she's so confused.
557
00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:24.799
She's like, I don't think so.
558
00:28:25.740 --> 00:28:29.319
So, back to Queens, and the Air Force is taking
559
00:28:29.420 --> 00:28:34.460
Derek's dad, who is Steve, to Penn State because through
560
00:28:34.539 --> 00:28:37.779
satellite and other stuff, they tracked his car. Even though
561
00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:39.509
it has no tracker on it, they can still track
562
00:28:39.549 --> 00:28:42.029
it through CC, whatever it was. The old-fashioned way of
563
00:28:42.049 --> 00:28:47.339
tracking a car, they tracked it to Penn State, which... Ironically,
564
00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:51.039
or just matter of convenience, they show the sign that's like,
565
00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:54.059
here's the entrance to Penn State. Oh, one mile away.
566
00:28:54.079 --> 00:29:01.089
Air Force Base. It's really close. Cool. Matter of convenience.
567
00:29:03.609 --> 00:29:08.609
They're getting there and another gremlin takes over the helicopter
568
00:29:09.430 --> 00:29:12.990
with the dad in it. We go back to Victoria's
569
00:29:13.029 --> 00:29:20.500
room and She and Vision are having an aggressive conversation. Yeah,
570
00:29:20.539 --> 00:29:23.539
she wants nothing to do with the situation. No, they
571
00:29:23.559 --> 00:29:27.299
get close enough, and it activates Phineas to appear.
572
00:29:29.549 --> 00:29:30.289
Phineas Graham.
573
00:29:30.509 --> 00:29:33.210
Yeah, help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi. You are my only hope
574
00:29:33.269 --> 00:29:38.170
type thing. So it's a recording, and he explains exactly
575
00:29:38.210 --> 00:29:41.750
what happened about that Nazi agent's death. the gem and
576
00:29:41.769 --> 00:29:42.829
the Nazis created.
577
00:29:42.869 --> 00:29:45.650
And that he was like, oh, I was just trying
578
00:29:45.690 --> 00:29:48.490
to ignore it, but the Nazis made all this terrible
579
00:29:48.579 --> 00:29:51.839
stuff with it. So they actually made these gremlins.
580
00:29:52.339 --> 00:29:56.119
They made these gremlins that killed 200 pilots. And it
581
00:29:56.160 --> 00:29:58.539
was like, so all those things they talked about how the, um,
582
00:30:00.140 --> 00:30:02.859
the allies back in World War II were getting defeated
583
00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:05.309
by these unknown creatures. It's all based off of like
584
00:30:05.349 --> 00:30:08.430
superstitions and lore and stuff. But it ends up they
585
00:30:08.470 --> 00:30:11.430
were defeated by the heroes of the day. So whoever
586
00:30:11.490 --> 00:30:13.869
the golden age heroes back or silver age, whatever it
587
00:30:13.890 --> 00:30:16.230
was back in the 30s were there because they show
588
00:30:16.269 --> 00:30:19.210
like a picture of like human torch and whatever because
589
00:30:19.230 --> 00:30:25.940
he could fly and defeat the wrong company. They destroyed
590
00:30:25.980 --> 00:30:29.380
all of them except for the leader which was like
591
00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:32.410
the You know, the main gremlin.
592
00:30:32.829 --> 00:30:34.049
The main G gremlin.
593
00:30:34.289 --> 00:30:37.240
Yeah, the capital G, not the lowercase g. And the
594
00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:39.960
Russians took him, and they had him in Siberia for
595
00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:41.799
X amount of years, and then he escaped.
596
00:30:41.859 --> 00:30:42.759
Like you do.
597
00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:44.940
He tried to kill Phineas.
598
00:30:44.980 --> 00:30:45.900
He was there with Bucky.
599
00:30:45.940 --> 00:30:51.720
Yeah, I guess so. He escaped. He tried to kill Phineas.
600
00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:54.809
Phineas survived. And he goes, he'd be like, I'm making
601
00:30:54.849 --> 00:30:56.670
this message because I know I'm not going to survive
602
00:30:56.710 --> 00:31:00.670
another attack. And the reason for this message is... is
603
00:31:00.750 --> 00:31:02.710
because it was only going to be activated when you
604
00:31:02.769 --> 00:31:05.670
two meet, is to find the leader, remove the gem,
605
00:31:05.730 --> 00:31:10.619
and destroy it. Like, okay, that pretty much was kind of,
606
00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:12.579
I mean, that's kind of the point of it. I go,
607
00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:17.440
that seems kind of simple. And of course, I mean, yes,
608
00:31:17.500 --> 00:31:20.259
we have to find this now. What actually got Vision
609
00:31:20.339 --> 00:31:24.519
and the leader and everything back onto the playing board now?
610
00:31:24.779 --> 00:31:28.670
We have no idea. And at that same time, that
611
00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:31.319
dude that was creeping on Victoria bust back in the room.
612
00:31:31.339 --> 00:31:35.559
Cause he probably had too many keg stands and vision
613
00:31:35.579 --> 00:31:37.759
did not like it. And he goes, you humans have
614
00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:42.279
no manners. And he basically is getting pissed. So he
615
00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:46.569
goes down the stairs and he's like, humans go home. Like,
616
00:31:46.650 --> 00:31:47.650
what the hell is this?
617
00:31:47.829 --> 00:31:50.670
Cause he's also like, he's got daddy issues. And so
618
00:31:50.710 --> 00:31:53.250
he sees Phineas as his father, his creator, you know,
619
00:31:53.289 --> 00:31:56.079
thank the maker. And, He's like, ah, my dad. You
620
00:31:56.099 --> 00:31:59.160
got rid of my dad-o-gram. I'm so mad at you. Oh, yeah,
621
00:31:59.180 --> 00:32:00.779
because he runs out into the streets.
622
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:05.480
Yeah, he walked right through the hologram of Phineas. And
623
00:32:06.029 --> 00:32:10.750
Vision was not happy with that. He's like, no. And
624
00:32:10.849 --> 00:32:18.509
so they get into Vicky's car. And Derek is just like,
625
00:32:18.569 --> 00:32:22.369
she's explaining to Derek, this kid who just happens to
626
00:32:22.430 --> 00:32:25.710
show up. like that she's not very smart and that
627
00:32:25.789 --> 00:32:28.329
she only did the computer, like the, whatever the sciences
628
00:32:28.349 --> 00:32:32.789
that she is doing is because the money her grandpa
629
00:32:32.849 --> 00:32:34.769
gave her, it was like, you have to, you have
630
00:32:34.809 --> 00:32:35.309
to study this.
631
00:32:35.349 --> 00:32:36.690
You have to take these classes.
632
00:32:36.750 --> 00:32:42.019
You have to take these classes and they get to the,
633
00:32:43.019 --> 00:32:47.240
so the, the, the GPS drive is, this is where
634
00:32:47.299 --> 00:32:49.319
it's pretty much gets really not convoluted, but a lot
635
00:32:49.339 --> 00:32:52.180
of stuff happens. But the, to get to the air
636
00:32:52.220 --> 00:32:57.259
force base, The Gremlin dad, who is now flying the helicopter,
637
00:32:58.180 --> 00:33:01.079
and Vision arrives all at the base. And now he's
638
00:33:01.140 --> 00:33:04.539
just like, oh, do you feel fear, brother? Because now
639
00:33:04.599 --> 00:33:07.519
the Gremlin and Vision are there together. And they're technically
640
00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:09.900
brothers because they're both created from the same solar gem
641
00:33:09.940 --> 00:33:12.460
type thing, even though they're not created by the same person.
642
00:33:12.859 --> 00:33:16.380
And he's like, never. I don't fear anything. I should
643
00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:20.789
be a Green Lantern because they don't fear anything. Yeah.
644
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:21.849
Here we go again.
645
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:26.920
Issue four. It's called Dogfight, and the gremlin tells Vision
646
00:33:26.960 --> 00:33:33.380
that he is infected by humanity. And Gremdad is there.
647
00:33:33.400 --> 00:33:36.359
He's basically– that's what we're calling the gremlin now because
648
00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:40.619
he's infected Derek's dad. And he's like half human. It's
649
00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:44.759
kind of almost like a warlock looking infection type thing.
650
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:47.549
And he goes, my mission is to create as much
651
00:33:47.700 --> 00:33:50.589
fear and death in the USA as possible. Because obviously
652
00:33:50.609 --> 00:33:52.609
this is all of these Nazi mandates from the 30s
653
00:33:52.690 --> 00:33:53.109
and 40s.
654
00:33:53.210 --> 00:33:55.609
Yeah, his programming is a little out of date.
655
00:33:55.869 --> 00:33:59.190
Exactly. And then after that, Vision will join me or
656
00:33:59.230 --> 00:34:04.569
will be dismantled. So Vision fights Gremlin. And he's going
657
00:34:04.630 --> 00:34:08.769
up against a bunch of controlled tanks and army military units.
658
00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:13.559
you know, like equipment and stuff like that. And so
659
00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:17.219
that's with vision and the gremlin while the grim dad.
660
00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:21.090
So there's multiples now because vision is fighting the capital
661
00:34:21.130 --> 00:34:25.210
gremlin and grim dad is like one of the minor gremlins.
662
00:34:25.329 --> 00:34:28.389
And he has this, the reason I guess why he
663
00:34:28.429 --> 00:34:32.389
took the dad, what was his name again? Steve, because
664
00:34:32.429 --> 00:34:37.539
he can fly this B 52 fortress and it's got bombs.
665
00:34:38.590 --> 00:34:43.570
And they're basically going to fly it into Philadelphia and
666
00:34:43.610 --> 00:34:46.050
just crash it and explain it. Don't forget, this is
667
00:34:46.110 --> 00:34:49.409
August 2002. This was like less than a year after 9-11.
668
00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:50.769
I'm going like, wow.
669
00:34:51.019 --> 00:34:52.639
It's kind of dark, Jeff.
670
00:34:53.480 --> 00:35:00.889
Like, okay. So the Vision defeats the one Gremlin for now.
671
00:35:04.309 --> 00:35:09.179
He goes back to fight the fortress or whatever. So
672
00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:12.139
they're fighting on the fortress now. Vision shows up, rips
673
00:35:12.179 --> 00:35:16.179
the gremlin off of dad. But the bomb is fused
674
00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:18.119
and they're set to go. They're going to blow up regardless.
675
00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:21.840
And he's going to crash to be 52. And Vicky,
676
00:35:21.980 --> 00:35:25.199
of all people, whispers to Vision like, hey, let him
677
00:35:25.219 --> 00:35:28.920
assimilate you. He's like, what? He's like, let him assimilate you. Because,
678
00:35:30.019 --> 00:35:32.619
you know, just trust me. And they're like, wait, what's
679
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:35.380
going on here? And Victoria is the one that's giving
680
00:35:35.420 --> 00:35:38.440
him this reason. So he shifts and he lets him
681
00:35:38.460 --> 00:35:38.920
take him over.
682
00:35:38.940 --> 00:35:40.159
He's like, no, no.
683
00:35:40.219 --> 00:35:42.400
And so because she knows that he can shift from
684
00:35:42.460 --> 00:35:47.099
ghost to solid. And he's like, let him assimilate. Like, why?
685
00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:51.280
He's like, go with a form of like quicksand, which
686
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:53.360
will not allow him to be solid or whatever. And
687
00:35:53.429 --> 00:35:56.869
in the same time. Right. Vision's immune system. What the
688
00:35:56.889 --> 00:35:59.150
hell is he having an immune system? He is a non.
689
00:35:59.170 --> 00:36:00.110
Because he's a smithozoid.
690
00:36:00.809 --> 00:36:02.210
Okay, so it's sort of just like, does he get
691
00:36:02.230 --> 00:36:02.469
it cold?
692
00:36:02.489 --> 00:36:04.849
I don't know, because it's convenient sometimes.
693
00:36:04.869 --> 00:36:08.030
Right, so the immune system takes him apart bit by bit.
694
00:36:08.050 --> 00:36:10.170
Mm-hmm.
695
00:36:10.190 --> 00:36:13.030
And so he's gone. They got this roller gem. The
696
00:36:13.090 --> 00:36:17.650
main G gremlin is gone. And the dad lands to
697
00:36:17.690 --> 00:36:24.510
be 52 on 95 North. And Vision is all sentimental.
698
00:36:24.530 --> 00:36:29.239
He's like, oh, because originally Derek asked vision if he
699
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:31.760
believed in ghosts he's like no he's like i believe
700
00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:34.460
in ghosts because ghosts from our past are the things
701
00:36:34.500 --> 00:36:39.280
that guide us and so they he hugs everybody he
702
00:36:39.300 --> 00:36:42.719
goes around hugs victoria and hugs steve and derrick and
703
00:36:43.179 --> 00:36:44.280
he's happy.
704
00:36:44.059 --> 00:36:46.420
Old softy yeah he's like i'm happy to have met
705
00:36:46.460 --> 00:36:50.190
you guys and victoria's like um i'm gonna actually start
706
00:36:50.329 --> 00:36:54.409
using my brain and because i realized i have one
707
00:36:54.610 --> 00:36:56.690
because she came up with these ideas and was like
708
00:36:56.710 --> 00:36:59.010
all right man maybe i'm actually good at this And
709
00:36:59.030 --> 00:37:01.079
she's like, well, stay in touch, Vision, because, you know,
710
00:37:01.139 --> 00:37:05.780
we are family. And he goes, he basically has like
711
00:37:05.820 --> 00:37:06.619
a jaw drop.
712
00:37:06.659 --> 00:37:07.880
He has puppy dog eyes.
713
00:37:07.900 --> 00:37:12.000
We are family. Your grandpa is my dad. Yeah, so
714
00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:14.260
you're like my great niece or something like that, or
715
00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:18.559
my niece, whatever it was. And so the last scene
716
00:37:18.619 --> 00:37:21.840
is him at Beanius' grave saying, I'm going to carry
717
00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:23.699
on with your wish for me to be a hero.
718
00:37:25.099 --> 00:37:27.059
The end. The end.
719
00:37:29.909 --> 00:37:35.820
Vision. Vision out. Vision out. I don't think there's going
720
00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:38.619
to be a lot of that in the show. I
721
00:37:38.619 --> 00:37:40.820
think there's going.
722
00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:43.500
To be a lot of daddy issue themes in the show.
723
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I still have no idea because there's also looking at
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some of the things like what's his face? The guy that,
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oh my god, I can't think of his name. The
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guy that was the.
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He was the main antagonist captain in Picard season three
728
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is in this series playing Paladin. And, um, I just
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happened to see, I happened to see Paladin is a, um,
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one of the C level characters. I guess you want
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to call it that. Um, hold on. Um, like he's
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a bad guy. He's a bad guy. Um, hold on.
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I'm going to, I'm going to get through this year
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and I'm going to find out who, uh, I'm not
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going to be able to do this in quite enough
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time without, you know, let's see. Quite enough time.
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Who's on the timer?
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This is, cause that was when Jack Crusher, hold on,
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Jordy Elton. Oh my God. He should have been like
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one of the main people here. Why can't I think
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of who this is? Cause he was the captain of
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the ship that they, him and, um, Riker basically commandeered,
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and he's like, oh, here we go, Todd Stashwick.
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None of these names mean anything to me.
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No, but he is playing... He was Captain Liam Shaw
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in Season 3 of Picard. His main thing was on
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the sci-fi show 12 Monkeys. When you see him, I
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know it because he's a big Star Wars guy, so
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he's been on Rebel Force Radio and able to chat
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with him and stuff like that. But he is playing in... Yeah.
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And scroll all the way down.
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Here.
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Post-production for Vision Quest is playing Paladin. And Paladin is a.
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Mark Spector was actually ultimate version of Paladin. And he
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is pretty much like a. He's not a supervillain. His
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mercenary activities often bring him into conflict with superheroes facing
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characters like Daredevil and Punisher. He notably worked for the
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Wild Pack, the Thunderbolts, and the Serpent Society. So if
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you saw him, he basically wears like a purple and
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black outfit. So nothing like.
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Okay.
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Anyways, I just thought of that because they were at
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New York Comic Con and I go, what is he
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doing there? And they say, he's playing Paladin. I'm like, oh,
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they're bringing Paladin into the MCU. Which... With the MCU
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these days, they're bringing everyone in to have like a, hey,
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how's it going? And then we'll never see. I hate
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to say it. I was talking with some of my
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friends again. We're never going to see Mark Spector in
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the MCU. We've never seen Mark Spector ever again. Unless
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they do like a monster thing with, you know, because they,
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I mean, Werewolf by Night was so good and they
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still got, you know, any of those.
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They could still do it. It could come back.
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They could. We'll see.
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We'll see.
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I mean, we don't know any television show. live action
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in the MCU.
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00:40:44.429 --> 00:40:50.559
Yeah, we do now. They announced Zodiac.
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00:40:50.800 --> 00:40:53.519
Oh, Zodiac. Yeah, that's supposed to be like a spy thriller,
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00:40:54.460 --> 00:40:56.719
which feels more like it, because obviously the A is the.
782
00:40:57.059 --> 00:41:01.530
Just don't screw the pooch like you did with Secret Invasion, Marvel.
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00:41:01.550 --> 00:41:05.829
I think they had the scroll of it all was just...
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00:41:05.690 --> 00:41:09.389
I mean, this one focusing on the A is the
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00:41:09.769 --> 00:41:13.929
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. logo, pretty much. And so it's going.
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00:41:13.829 --> 00:41:16.050
To be like, people are getting excited. Yeah.
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00:41:16.900 --> 00:41:20.000
So anyway, so that is, when is it? Patient. Everyone
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00:41:20.019 --> 00:41:22.179
you get this week is the first, what? Two episodes
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of Wanda vision. Yeah.
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Wednesday.
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00:41:24.860 --> 00:41:28.019
Wanda vision, vision quest, vision quest.
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00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:30.780
And it's, I'm excited.
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00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:33.039
How many episodes long is it? Eight.
794
00:41:33.360 --> 00:41:34.679
I think it's eight. Yeah.
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November.
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00:41:35.500 --> 00:41:35.760
Okay.
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00:41:35.780 --> 00:41:38.280
So, well, we get to this week to next week
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to the week after that. And then November 3rd, November 10th.
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So they're, Um, Oh, they're, they're jumping it in because
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this is interesting. The first two were directed by the
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00:41:48.309 --> 00:41:50.210
same guy, same with the three and four or five
802
00:41:50.250 --> 00:41:51.829
and six and then seven and eight. So it was
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00:41:51.849 --> 00:41:52.150
sort of.
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00:41:52.130 --> 00:41:54.150
Like, Oh, I like when they do that.
805
00:41:55.070 --> 00:41:59.510
It's probably like they're used to remember how, whatever did that. Yeah,
806
00:41:59.550 --> 00:42:02.809
that's true. And Dr. Who would have a lot of
807
00:42:02.849 --> 00:42:06.090
shows would have like episode one of two. It's like
808
00:42:06.110 --> 00:42:08.369
a cliffhanger. So basically it was a 90 minute episode.
809
00:42:08.690 --> 00:42:09.429
So they split them.
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Right.
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So, um, Yeah, so we're going to be doing that.
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And I'm going.
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To take a.
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00:42:17.809 --> 00:42:20.630
Look here. Next week we're doing Clayface Primer. So we're
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going to have to go see that in the movies
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next week.
817
00:42:25.469 --> 00:42:27.469
Yeah, I'm worried about that movie.
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00:42:28.329 --> 00:42:31.199
You know what's worrisome about it? It's one of those
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movies where it's like when they're doing it this late
820
00:42:33.900 --> 00:42:36.219
and they haven't had any... I mean, it's coming out
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in 10 days. And there's been no... pre-screenings I mean
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unless they usually sometimes will do a I.
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00:42:42.710 --> 00:42:45.269
Think they're just starting to do them because Ashley said
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Bill Bria was gonna go to one okay but that's
825
00:42:48.949 --> 00:42:54.730
like really late yeah.
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I mean usually I mean usually I.
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Was excited for it now I'm like I don't know.
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The world premiere would probably be like tomorrow or like
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00:43:01.809 --> 00:43:05.690
the and the thing is it's budget is only 40
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00:43:05.690 --> 00:43:08.780
million dollars how much of it is And there's gotta
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be a lot of, uh, CGI into it. Yeah.
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00:43:14.289 --> 00:43:17.010
I mean, the cast, we'll see. You know what? We're
833
00:43:17.030 --> 00:43:20.349
going to read the one bad day, one shot comic,
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00:43:20.409 --> 00:43:24.309
and it'll be a good time. And that's on Kindle unlimited. If, uh,
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00:43:24.489 --> 00:43:28.079
you don't have the DC comics app, like I don't anymore.
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00:43:29.059 --> 00:43:34.400
Um, I forgot what I was going to say. Um, Oh,
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I mean, it can't be as bad as Craven, the hunter.
838
00:43:37.750 --> 00:43:38.320
or whatever.
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00:43:38.429 --> 00:43:42.880
I still haven't seen it. You can't even, you can't. Morbius.
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00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:46.340
Yeah. If it's, if it's more, I mean, think about it.
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00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:52.590
The movies before that were Morbius and Spiderweb, Spiderweb. I mean,
842
00:43:53.070 --> 00:43:56.250
if a progressive, if the rest of those movies was Morbius,
843
00:43:56.369 --> 00:44:00.449
it's like, God, that is like, you know, I mean.
844
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Yeah. That's scraping the bottom of the barrel.
845
00:44:04.550 --> 00:44:06.389
But the whole thing, you could polish the turd, but
846
00:44:06.409 --> 00:44:13.119
it's still a piece of crap. Anyways, so we'll be
847
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doing some Clayface primers next week. And in the meantime,
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if you want to get a hold of us, Hayley,
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do your thing.
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and something of them plus whatever.
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This is episode 256. 256.
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That's a good number.
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256.
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Yes, it is. So until episode 257, remember two things.
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Be excellent to each other and never judge a book
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by its Love you 300.
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