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Welcome listeners, we're here back with another Body Size episode.
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I think this is Botti Size episode 4 or 5.
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Dunno, five, who knows.
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And today we're here to talk with Darren really about his uh big challenge coming up in September, Equinox 24.
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So, Darren, what is Equinox 24 and why are you doing it?
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So it's a 24 hour race up in Beaver Castle, but if you're gonna Google it, you've got to put it in Balvoir.
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Balvoir Balvoir.
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I always call it Balvoir Castle.
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Uh yeah, up in Leicester.
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And I was corrected because we're going to Leicester.
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Oh my god.
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Yeah, I know.
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You'll have to drive back, obviously.
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But the lady who owns or I don't know own it, inherited it.
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Can you own it?
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Whatever.
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She obviously does.
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It's called Lady Beaver.
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Lady Beaver.
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And she's from Herefordshire, apparently.
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Lady Balvoir.
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Yeah, Balvoir, no, it's called like Mrs.
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Bouquet, isn't it?
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It's a bouquet residence.
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Anyway, uh, yeah, so uh Econox 24 up in Leicester in Beaver Castle.
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We've established that.
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It's a 24-hour race, and uh yeah, it's uh 10k laps around the castle grounds.
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Uh it looks quite nice.
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Route, um, and yeah, you basically just go as many laps as you can in 24 hours.
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Um, it's not like a backyard ultra where there's kind of you have to be in the pen, you just go as many times as you like, you can rest when you want.
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Uh it's just you against the clock, really.
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Nice.
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Yeah.
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Elevation?
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Um I don't think it's that hilly, but it is um off-road.
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There's two hills on it.
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One's called uh not that hill, and the other one's called that hill.
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So there's obviously a couple of hills on it, as you can tell.
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Nice.
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Um psychological though, putting the name behind it.
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Uh injured they had Heartbreak Hill.
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Yeah.
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So it's like cool, well, exactly.
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You mentally think you're coming up to something then, don't you?
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Yeah, yeah.
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I think the plan with that is to walk them, and I think I'm gonna use that as my nutrition strategy to try and eat whilst getting up those hills.
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Transparently, um, and I'm sure we'll do another episode on this, the things that we both learned from these 24-hour events, but I ran Heartbreak Hill because I was so fixed on sticking to the pace.
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Yeah, and I've said this to you, to a few people after Injure.
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I ran In Draw like a backyard ultra, but I've never done a backyard ultra, and when I watch backyard ultras now and watch people doing them, walking is fine, and also I would probably have just run it like a general ultra in terms of walk run, walk run.
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Yeah, um, I was very fixed on the pace.
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That wasn't obviously why I stopped, I got injured, but yeah, I would 100% recommend walking those things.
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100%, yeah.
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I think so.
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I think that's gonna set you up for the long game, especially if you're gonna say get your nutrition in and then ideal, isn't it?
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Yeah, absolutely ideal.
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So for the listeners, Darren, I think there's a few things I'd like us to cover.
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One, how we got to here.
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Obviously, uh you had a a sort of operation, a fairly big operation, um, almost a year to the date for Ecrinox.
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Yeah, what you've done to train for Equinox, and then I guess race strategies um for for the day, yeah, all the way down to we haven't even discussed this yet what time we're leaving on the Friday because we probably feel like we should have got to my event sooner than we did.
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Um, so yeah, let's go back to so almost a year to the date you had an operation.
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Tell us a bit about that.
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Yeah, so uh Hallex Rigidus is called, it's basically a form of arthritis.
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Hallux rigidus.
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Um it's a form of arthritis.
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Um I broke my foot, toe, whatever, 25 years ago.
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I've just been busy, so I hadn't had a chance to get reins of sorting at eight.
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Can we rewind 25 years ago?
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How did you break it?
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Uh back in the army, probably longer than 25 years actually, but yeah, god.
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Oh, you were in the army, didn't I?
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Yeah, you know.
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You mentioned that before.
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So yeah, broke it say 25, 30 years ago, um, and it's just a case of not repaired properly.
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And over the years, basically the bones started to push its out through through the kind of foot.
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And I noticed it when I was wearing trainers, hawker, I started to wear hawker trainers, and I thought, bloody, these are tight.
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And then swap trainers, these were still tight, next ones were still tight, and thought, well, something's a bit odd here, and I started to notice my toe and my foot doing this.
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I was like, well, something isn't quite right that had an X-ray um up at Belmont Abbey, um, at the NHS place up there, and they basically said, you know, you can either live with it, it's not gonna get any worse as it is now, that's probably its absolute max.
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You can have it um operated on and shaven and kind of like they shave the bone down, or you can have it fixed.
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Now, for me, kind of what the the I had to have it fixed.
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It was when they got into it, they said anyway, you know, you'd have to have it done.
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So basically they've cut it out, they've fixed it with a plate, and then they've used like on the x-ray, it looks like fucking builder's nails, honestly, and screws uh all over the place.
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And so I cannot move my toe, my big foot.
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Um big foot, big toe, big foot reverse.
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Big foot.
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I can't move a big toe anymore.
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Um, so that has a massive impact on my running style, so that's kind of learn, readjust whatever you want to call it, how to run again, really.
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Yeah, that's been quite hard.
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You I guess I only realised that and saw it properly when we did our big run, and you were obviously showing us the sort of rocking mobility on that you don't have on that foot versus your other foot, and then how much we we all have in our ankles, but you don't?
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No.
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Have you had to do obviously you've had to do rehab, but is there been a specific thing that you've started to have to do since that you weren't doing before?
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No, well funny enough, you don't actually have re any rehab at all for the operation.
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It's kind of you know, they obviously see you and they see you through stages for the recovery, but there's no exercise you can do on it because it doesn't move anymore.
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So, what are you going to do to repair it?
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There's nothing to repair.
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Yeah, it's fixed, get on with it.
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But I guess any other areas of the body to strengthen up with that too.
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Yeah, I mean, obviously, yeah, and you know, you do notice, and that goes to learning how to run differently, I suppose, is your glutes need to fire a lot more, your hamstrings need to help out and take a bit more load.
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Because I find that I'm running on the side of my foot, whether that's it's still healing, it's still swollen at the end of the day, and it's 12 months on, and the foot's still swollen.
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And you can notice it when you put next to each other, this foot sits up here, as opposed to this one.
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Um, so that is quite still inflamed, but then I'm putting pressure on it, I suppose, so it's not healing fully.
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Um, but it's you know it's been through quite a lot since operation.
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Yeah, you know, we've done double on course Ken Marathon, we've done the 50 mile um one mile laps, we've done a 65 mile cardiff to Hereford.
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Yeah.
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Um done any more since that?
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Yeah, the the Sims with your races.
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Yeah, you joined me on a few of my Sims.
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Do you know what I mean?
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Yeah, I guess we're tapping into the next uh section already in terms of training that you put into it.
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I think you must have done based on the three for I think you've done about four to five ultra marathons this year.
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Yeah.
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It's quite long off the back of an operation.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Which is is it good?
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Is it silly?
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Is it stupid?
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I don't know.
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I'm I'm still I'm still running lay.
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I think we touched on this on a little video we did drawing one of mine.
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Uh Sims was the it's it's in the mind, it's mental.
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I think ultimately we both know, and I don't think a lot of people know what their body's limits are in terms of pushing themselves from an endurance event perspective.
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But equally, okay, I've got a niggle.
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Is it something that needs to be uh listened to in terms of stopping, or is it something that actually needs to be able to push through?
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And I think you've really tested that, and I think it's brave to test it because the easy option is to just say I'm injured, stop.
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Yeah, in some cases is a sensible option, but I always do a little audit.
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Okay, it hurt today when I ran.
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Okay, I'm not gonna stop, I'll go tomorrow.
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You know, don't get me wrong, if it was like stopping you walking, then it's different.
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But okay, go tomorrow, yeah, it's still a hurt.
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And is it getting better or worse?
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Have I flared up post?
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Have I flared up the next morning?
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I think the next morning thing is a big thing because obviously you're sleeping, so you're recovering.
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Okay, three days in, last day today.
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If it does flare up again and it does flare up in the next morning, stop.
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Yeah, giving it that opportunity to push your mind through that.
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Um, but it's a tricky thing to do, isn't it?
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I think we said it though, like said it in the Sims that if it's a safe environment to do it and it's controlled, yeah, then try it, go for it.
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Yeah, if you're risking stuff, you know, we don't like risk as coaches, as humans, you know, we we need to kind of limit that risk, especially when there's safety involved, yeah.
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Definitely.
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Um I don't know, it's like yeah.
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Have I done too much too soon?
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A lot of people will say that.
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But going back to the the the mentalities kind of thing, I've got a book coming out, I'm writing a book at the moment, another book, and this one's about me.
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And I don't I'm quite a closed person, I don't kind of put my feelings out there, my thoughts are kind uh you know, I do keep it got a bit emotional, Down.
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No, I I mean this book does kind of go into that kind of stuff, and it kind of does put it all on the table for people to see.
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Because after my operation, I mean I piled on the fucking weight, you know, I massively.
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You looked like um sort of lope-on dodgeball.
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Yeah, I did.
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I was like a hamster mess like that, just smashing it in me like as if I was surviving in winter or something, like a bear.
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But like I looked at myself after my operation, you know, probably two months down the line went and excuse my language, but what the fuck are you are you doing?
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What have you done to yourself, you absolute imbecile?
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You know, and and it talks about that.
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Looking at myself, and the the book is actually called Miles Miles from Myself because I do feel that I was miles from where I was before my operation.
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I was in a really good place, completed Iron Man Wales, done a few really good marathon times, half marathons, had the operation, looked at myself in the mirror one day and thought, what the fuck?
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What are you doing?
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I mean I'd have done that looking at you on the other day of the week.
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And most people do do that, but no, I think there's a a really a really good thing to talk about and dive into there because it is easy to let it slip, especially when you've got that injury.
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Um, I spoken about this the other day about now I'm injured, but I know going out and walking helps, but it hurts, and it's like the mentality to have to switch your brain into the moment of this is going to hurt before it gets better, it takes a lot.
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Yeah, because when you're so used to this high adrenal thing up here, to just going for a mile walk in the morning and that being the highlight exercise of your day, potentially a swim or whatever, to motivate yourself for that is hard, but you know it'll get you better, don't you?
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I mean, if you think about like you know the operation itself, I went from like I said, really good marathon times, half marathon times, and then literally bang, stop.
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You cannot physically move, and I I can't explain.
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Yes, it's only a foot operation, um, and it's not the end of the world, but everything is taken away from you.
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And I go in my book, I talk about this the wife having to help you shower, you know, and that taking literally an hour and a half to two hours a time to have a shower every day because you can't put any weight on it.
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I couldn't load bed for three months.
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I didn't sleep upstairs in my in my bedroom for two months, yeah, you know, doing like 50 steps a day to the toilet, which is there, you know.
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Honestly, yeah, it was hard, it's a hard journey.
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I remember we started a podcast around that period of time and it was like, oh crap, we've got that.
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Oh crap, we've got that.
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And I was like, Yeah, I'll get it, I'll get it.
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But those are the things that people don't talk about in a sense of like for us, that's massive.
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Don't get me wrong, I know there are people out there that probably only do 50 steps a day, that's their life.
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But when it's stripped from you, when you're probably you know, you're on your feet in your job at the garage, you know, you're probably doing what 15 to 20,000 like basic miles per day with running as well.
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For that to go down to 50, that's I mean, I don't even know what the mass was on that, but that's ridiculously different, isn't it?
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It's madness, and but like it's like the it's it's it's also the the livelihood.
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So again, your wife having to shower you and all that stuff, going to the loo, you know.
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Oh my god, I I've got to put weight on that side, you know, to to to to go to the loo and things like that, and whatever it might be, you know.
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Oh uh, you know, I'm sat down, I want to go make a cup of tea.
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Oh, gotta go make a cup of tea.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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It's taken away from you.
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Keep your foot elevated for two months, mate.
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I tell you, it's hard work, literally uh injecting yourself with bloody stop blood clots.
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I hate ejections as this and like a I hate it.
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And to get them, I mean they're not small, it's not like a diabetic one when you put it in and it goes, honestly, the needles like that, and you're like horrible, hated it, hated it.
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Anyway, we've gone off a bit of a go back to the ambitious thing though.
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Well, I'm I'm saying ambitious, but you said, Have I done too much?
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And to some people I would say that I have.
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This is a big thing that I'm trying to promote to people that aren't in an ambitious mindset.
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We're very ambitious people, whether it be through business, through our own personal growth, through training with family or whatever it might be.
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And I think personally, we're in this society at the moment where a lot of people would see what you've done as wrong, yeah, but they don't understand what you've had taken from you.
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And even though you have had fast marathons, fast fast halves, completed multiple iron's, because you're an ambitious human, you always want more, and that's not an unhealthy thing to keep wanting more.
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No, I don't think so.
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I think it's a good thing sometimes.
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And well, the stuff how how the equinox come about is that I start to feel a little bit better, start to start to move a lot more.
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I think I was still on crutches at the time when I entered this race.
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Yeah, why not?
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And you were starting to do yours and you'd get a bit jealous of mine, I think, wouldn't you?
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There's some running, yeah.
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I was like, oh come on.
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And then I remember being in my office at home and I had it up on the screen and thought I could do that.
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Beth said, Don't you dare.
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You can't do it.
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Enter.
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That was it, and that's all I needed.
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Yes, it's best fault, basically.
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That's all I needed was somebody to say, you can't do something, you're not allowed to do it.
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You know, makes you know.
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And it's like the not allowed sense of it is like there's two things to that.
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It's like, okay, you know, if if it was the week after operation, of course you're not allowed.
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Yes, you know, there's there's that side of it, but that mindset of you you shouldn't and you're not allowed to is such a unique thing to think about in a sense of like, well, why not?
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Yeah, yeah.
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So I locked I locked the dating, locked the racing.
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I knew it was gonna be 12 months from operation.
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Yeah, so let's try it.
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And I think it shows that compound effect of it's 12 months away.
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Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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If I can just take one step every day, we're gonna get there.
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And so far, we'd like to completed 50 mile lap, four or five vultures this year, two review, yeah, double on course weekend is part of the training, and a 65-mile run.
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Yeah.
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So I'm there, you know, I'm ready for this race, I'm ready to hit it hard.
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Yeah, um, yeah, I really am.
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It's one, two, three weeks away.
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Yeah, 24 days.
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24 days and counting.
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What does training look like between now and Ecinox 24 days ago?
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Well, I have picked up a slight injury, um, which I think is more of a fat pad in my um sole of my foot on the good side.
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Um, so I'm just gonna try and rest it a little bit, but still, yeah, still a little bit of intensity training when I can.
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Strength training is still there, but again, it's starting to taper off really now.
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Uh, might be a little bit too soon, but I think with the injury, I just need to give myself a bit of a chance.
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I'm really probably still recovering from the Cardiff.
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Do you know what though?
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We sat on your sofa and you asked me before my event how much is it physical and how much is it mental?
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I don't know what scores I gave that day, but if you asked me that question today, I'd say 90% mental, 10% physical.
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Yeah.
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Because let's be honest, you ain't gonna lose fitness in three weeks.
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No, yeah, and it's a mental thing.
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When we got back to Cardiff to Hereford, that period of time when you struggled because of the heat, it was mental.
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Yeah, you know, yeah, and you said it yourself, I was ready to quit, but I didn't.
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Yeah, and you were like, I don't, you know, yeah, we had a loose plan to get to the coffee pot for a time, but ultimately we were getting to Hereford no matter if it was midnight or the next day.
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We'd have kept going until Sunday if we had to.
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Yeah, so okay, well that's good.
00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:04.559
Yeah, so not lot not long left then for the training perspective.
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Um, what have you learned, I guess, this year on your fueling and also your kit?
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Are you planning on carrying much kit on the laps with you?
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I mean, you're gonna have a fantastic pit stop, you know.
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I hope so.
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You know, by me.
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Support crew.
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Support crew for me.
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No, I don't think I think I'm gonna carry my uh uh EXO belt, is it called?
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Uh XO.
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Exo belt and carry that because it's really um Pringle carrier.
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Pringle carrier.
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Yeah, I'm gonna carry that.
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I'm gonna carry carb.
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I'm gonna go through the cut the carb mix every single lap.
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Um, just keep refilling that, and then I'll go through the Lucas Aid.
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Uh well in that's gonna be 60 grams per drink.
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Per lap.
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Per lap.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's gonna be hopefully per hour.
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And then if I could top that up with a bit of food on top of that, hopefully I can hit my target of 80, 80 grams per hour, which would be quite nice.
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And then go through a cycle of water, Lucas Aid, electrolytes in the other kind of pocket.
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Uh and that's it, really.
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I think just trying to eat every lap, um, grabbing something off the crew rather than having to carry it and just refilling myself every time.
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Yeah, um, my aim is hopefully not to stop at all until I absolutely need to do a job.
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And my meat by a job, I'm talking, change my shoes, socks, whatever it is, and I need to obviously keep my foot Vaselined and that kind of stuff, especially on my operation foot, because obviously it's rubbing where the toe's quite big, it rubs against the inside of it.
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Um, so I need to kind of Vaseline that up quite a lot.
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So I'll stop to do a job.
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Apart from that, I'm gonna keep going, hopefully.
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I'm so jealous.
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I'm thinking about it now.
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Um just going back to because we we we adopted this at one of my sims, the water leucasade electrolyte, but also not just leucusade, different flavour leucusades.
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Um, I know why I took that into consideration.
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Why is that a good thing to swap out your drinks?
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Literally to swap out the taste buds if it keeps cycling through different tastes because you're gonna get bloody sick of it.
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Eventually, you're gonna get sick of that cycle.
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Yeah, you go.
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Everyone loves a leukusade.
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You might have taken a cup of tea on one, you know, whatever it is.
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You are gonna start playing footsie.
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Yeah, we are.
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Yeah, you might yeah, you're gonna get sick of it, guaranteed.
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And the other um thing I haven't I've tried, I'm gonna do is pot noodle.
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Literally, chicken and muscle, beef and tomato.
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Yeah, it's gonna be lukewarm, and I'm literally gonna grab it and I'm gonna smash it down my neck as quick as I can.
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The other thing that you found on your one mile uh repeat sim that was good was the little rice pudding part.
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Yeah, really good.
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Ambrosia rice pudding, yeah.
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Absolutely amazing.
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So I've created a list of things you've got to buy.
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Yeah, it's massive.
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I've not gone away for a week, mate.
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It's the kit you have to take, it's phenomenal.
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And uh yeah, it's gonna be good.
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Yeah, and I mean looking at the kit, you know, the weather's starting to change in the morning, it's bloody cold, um, starting to get a bit fresh, isn't it?
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So you've got to think about warm kit, hat, you know what's gonna be like in the middle of the night, it's gonna rain during the day might rain.
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So all those waterproof kits, socks, shoes, yeah, the kit list is endless.
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It really is.
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Nice buzzing, absolute buzzing, and I like to say I'm gonna say to the crew, I'm gonna say to you, whatever you do, do not let me fucking quit.
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I cannot quit.
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The only way I can quit is if one foot faced this way, I never foot face this.
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That's it.
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Apart from that, I've gotta you gotta make me keep going.
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There's no excuses.
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Yeah, there's zero excuses.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I'm gonna put that out there now.
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There's no excuses on this.
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Yeah, I'm going for it.
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I'll push you on.
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Absolutely.
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Hopefully.
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So the weekend itself, the actual race is Saturday to Sunday.
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Saturday, yeah.
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Midday?
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Midday.
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Midday to midday.
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Yeah.
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So we're going down Friday morning.
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Friday, Friday morning, yeah.
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You can't get in there till about 12 o'clock anyway.
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Oh, you can.
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Because Injur was nine, isn't it?
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This is 12 o'clock.
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We're still gonna leave it like five days.
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It's a bit of a smaller event, but I think they put on a really good show.
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Yeah.
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I think the two people that run it, husband and wife, uh, and they yeah, it's kind of a family organised event.
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Yeah, I fancy that next year, to be fair.
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Yeah, I liked Enjoy, don't get me wrong, but I'm not a massive big event person, but personally, and we spoke about that the other day.
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I found more achievement and enjoyed our run that we created more than than in it.
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Yeah, weird.
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So okay, so we'll leave whatever time we leave, get there.
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Uh event opens at midday on Friday.
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What's the plan of attack Friday?
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So set up SPC HQ, uh, which is gonna be gazebos, flags, proper full branding.
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Yeah, um, and yeah, just set up the kit, gonna take the camper van out.
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Van's coming, yeah, fill that up with kit.
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We put that out the side of the door, didn't we, last time?
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That worked really well.
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Yeah, and I think one of the biggest things that I've seen, and we did it for me, is that the camp has to be set up around your chair.
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Yeah.
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Well, I ain't gonna need a chair because I'm not sitting down.
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Wow.
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What about when you're doing work?
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I lie down.
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I'll be in the chair then.
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You in the chair, my feet can be up, and yeah, Beth can vastly my feet when I'm lying down.
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Lovely.
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Sounds good.
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Two-minute pit stop, two-minute pit stop.
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Um, okay, so that's on the Friday, and then we're checking in to Premier Inn.
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Local Premier Inn Premier In, which is only literally five minutes down the road, so really, really easy.
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And what do you think about fuelling that night?
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Uh I think just have whatever you fancy.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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If it's a steak, have a steak.
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If it's a whatever, whatever.
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On the day feeling, vibe, what do we call it?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And then breakfast the next day.
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I went to the biggest.
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Yeah, smashing as much as you can of the old.
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I'm gonna beat for you as well.
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Mate, I'm looking forward to it.
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Yeah, porridge, what yeah, continental breakfast as well, don't they?
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And then the full English, but try and have that early enough, you know, so digest it so you you're not hungry, you're still full, but not bloated by the time twelve o'clock comes.
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And hopefully you digest a bit of it before midday.
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So first lap, you're not thinking, oh god.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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And is there a bit of course entertainment on the way?
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I don't really know.
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They have they've done a kind of not a race briefing yet.
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They've done like um a bit of an overview of it, but they've got another briefing coming up, which I'm gonna talk a bit more about that.
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I believe it's similar to uh Endure where they have lights around uh the you know the route and that kind of stuff.
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And but hopefully, yeah, whether they've got singers or alvises out there, I don't know.
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I'll dress up as Alvis.
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I'll come out in the woods, yeah.
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It's gonna be quality, mate.
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Are we gonna take the boombox speaker again?
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So I can uh definitely do a bit of that.
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100%.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Amazing.
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I won't be joining you though.
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No, you'll be brilliant.
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You can take it with you if you want.
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Our kids will be there though.
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Yeah, you'd be there.
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Yeah, alright, I'll put them in control of that.
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So, yeah, Saturday through to Sunday.
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Yeah, let's see what happens.
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Well, again, you can go out, so like same as in jaw, you can go out at 11.59.
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Yeah, yeah, so you can get in one more lap if you really.
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You've got to do that with that within an hour though, haven't you?
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I don't know.
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Uh in draw you did.
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You have to be back before 159.
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159, 1259.
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1259 must be.
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Yeah.
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Alright, yeah.
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So you wouldn't be able to go out at 1159 though.
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No, you're gonna put out a really quick 10k.
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Because it's longer than in jaw because in jail's five miles, isn't it?
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It's an extra mile to be had here.
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Um yeah, look forward to it, mate.
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Um, yeah, let's see what happens.
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Do you have a goal?
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100 miles would be amazing.
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110, dare I say it, even better.
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Uh podium finish, fucking over the moon, ecstatic, yeah, unbelievable.
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Never gonna happen, but I'm gonna put it, you know, as a target.
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Yeah, why not?
00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:31.440
If you keep if you keep going and you keep moving forward, um you know, every step you do is gonna be a count towards that goal, isn't it?
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And that mileage, it's all gonna add up.
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And if I don't stop and only stop for a job, for a purpose, then the mileage is gonna hopefully rack up quickly.
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And I look back at Cardin and think, you know, Card have took us 15 hours, you know, and we're done 65 with stops, and hopefully I don't stop as much, obviously, at this one, then it's doable.
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But we'll shall see.
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Anything can happen on the day, anything can happen.
00:23:53.680 --> 00:23:54.880
Well, that's what I said in mine.
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You know, the injury happened.
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I was uh my my engine was ready, but it you know, if shit happens, yeah, exactly.
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That's enjoyment sport, yeah.
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Exactly that.
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You twist your own from the first land.
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Yep, go with the flow.
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Max has tapping crash on the first line with the Formula One this weekend.
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It's the way it happens, yeah.
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Yeah, hopefully it doesn't.
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No, we shall see.
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Fingers crossed, fingers crossed.
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Oh man.
00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:19.599
Well, I think it'll be a good opportunity for us to sit down after uh to debrief from yours and then I like it.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And I'd like to do a debrief after that of uh another bite size for both of us of things that we've learned from it.
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Yeah.
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So that if anyone's going into this the 24-hour events next year, what did we do that we or what do we wish we did or didn't do and all of that stuff.
00:24:35.200 --> 00:24:35.680
Yeah, exactly.
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Sound good?
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Yeah, it'd be amazing.
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Smash in.
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Let's do it.
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Welcome listeners, we're here back with another Body Size episode.
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I think this is Botti Size episode 4 or 5.
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Dunno, five, who knows.
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And today we're here to talk with Darren really about his uh big challenge coming up in September, Equinox 24.
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So, Darren, what is Equinox 24 and why are you doing it?
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So it's a 24 hour race up in Beaver Castle, but if you're gonna Google it, you've got to put it in Balvoir.
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Balvoir Balvoir.
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I always call it Balvoir Castle.
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Uh yeah, up in Leicester.
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And I was corrected because we're going to Leicester.
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Oh my god.
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Yeah, I know.
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You'll have to drive back, obviously.
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But the lady who owns or I don't know own it, inherited it.
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Can you own it?
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Whatever.
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She obviously does.
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It's called Lady Beaver.
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Lady Beaver.
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And she's from Herefordshire, apparently.
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Lady Balvoir.
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Yeah, Balvoir, no, it's called like Mrs.
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Bouquet, isn't it?
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It's a bouquet residence.
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Anyway, uh, yeah, so uh Econox 24 up in Leicester in Beaver Castle.
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We've established that.
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It's a 24-hour race, and uh yeah, it's uh 10k laps around the castle grounds.
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Uh it looks quite nice.
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Route, um, and yeah, you basically just go as many laps as you can in 24 hours.
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Um, it's not like a backyard ultra where there's kind of you have to be in the pen, you just go as many times as you like, you can rest when you want.
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Uh it's just you against the clock, really.
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Nice.
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Yeah.
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Elevation?
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Um I don't think it's that hilly, but it is um off-road.
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There's two hills on it.
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One's called uh not that hill, and the other one's called that hill.
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So there's obviously a couple of hills on it, as you can tell.
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Nice.
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Um psychological though, putting the name behind it.
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Uh injured they had Heartbreak Hill.
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Yeah.
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So it's like cool, well, exactly.
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You mentally think you're coming up to something then, don't you?
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Yeah, yeah.
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I think the plan with that is to walk them, and I think I'm gonna use that as my nutrition strategy to try and eat whilst getting up those hills.
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Transparently, um, and I'm sure we'll do another episode on this, the things that we both learned from these 24-hour events, but I ran Heartbreak Hill because I was so fixed on sticking to the pace.
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Yeah, and I've said this to you, to a few people after Injure.
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I ran In Draw like a backyard ultra, but I've never done a backyard ultra, and when I watch backyard ultras now and watch people doing them, walking is fine, and also I would probably have just run it like a general ultra in terms of walk run, walk run.
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Yeah, um, I was very fixed on the pace.
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That wasn't obviously why I stopped, I got injured, but yeah, I would 100% recommend walking those things.
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100%, yeah.
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I think so.
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I think that's gonna set you up for the long game, especially if you're gonna say get your nutrition in and then ideal, isn't it?
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Yeah, absolutely ideal.
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So for the listeners, Darren, I think there's a few things I'd like us to cover.
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One, how we got to here.
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Obviously, uh you had a a sort of operation, a fairly big operation, um, almost a year to the date for Ecrinox.
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Yeah, what you've done to train for Equinox, and then I guess race strategies um for for the day, yeah, all the way down to we haven't even discussed this yet what time we're leaving on the Friday because we probably feel like we should have got to my event sooner than we did.
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Um, so yeah, let's go back to so almost a year to the date you had an operation.
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Tell us a bit about that.
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Yeah, so uh Hallex Rigidus is called, it's basically a form of arthritis.
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Hallux rigidus.
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Um it's a form of arthritis.
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Um I broke my foot, toe, whatever, 25 years ago.
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I've just been busy, so I hadn't had a chance to get reins of sorting at eight.
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Can we rewind 25 years ago?
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How did you break it?
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Uh back in the army, probably longer than 25 years actually, but yeah, god.
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Oh, you were in the army, didn't I?
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Yeah, you know.
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You mentioned that before.
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So yeah, broke it say 25, 30 years ago, um, and it's just a case of not repaired properly.
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And over the years, basically the bones started to push its out through through the kind of foot.
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And I noticed it when I was wearing trainers, hawker, I started to wear hawker trainers, and I thought, bloody, these are tight.
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And then swap trainers, these were still tight, next ones were still tight, and thought, well, something's a bit odd here, and I started to notice my toe and my foot doing this.
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I was like, well, something isn't quite right that had an X-ray um up at Belmont Abbey, um, at the NHS place up there, and they basically said, you know, you can either live with it, it's not gonna get any worse as it is now, that's probably its absolute max.
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You can have it um operated on and shaven and kind of like they shave the bone down, or you can have it fixed.
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Now, for me, kind of what the the I had to have it fixed.
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It was when they got into it, they said anyway, you know, you'd have to have it done.
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So basically they've cut it out, they've fixed it with a plate, and then they've used like on the x-ray, it looks like fucking builder's nails, honestly, and screws uh all over the place.
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And so I cannot move my toe, my big foot.
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Um big foot, big toe, big foot reverse.
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Big foot.
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I can't move a big toe anymore.
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Um, so that has a massive impact on my running style, so that's kind of learn, readjust whatever you want to call it, how to run again, really.
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Yeah, that's been quite hard.
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You I guess I only realised that and saw it properly when we did our big run, and you were obviously showing us the sort of rocking mobility on that you don't have on that foot versus your other foot, and then how much we we all have in our ankles, but you don't?
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No.
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Have you had to do obviously you've had to do rehab, but is there been a specific thing that you've started to have to do since that you weren't doing before?
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No, well funny enough, you don't actually have re any rehab at all for the operation.
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It's kind of you know, they obviously see you and they see you through stages for the recovery, but there's no exercise you can do on it because it doesn't move anymore.
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So, what are you going to do to repair it?
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There's nothing to repair.
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Yeah, it's fixed, get on with it.
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But I guess any other areas of the body to strengthen up with that too.
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Yeah, I mean, obviously, yeah, and you know, you do notice, and that goes to learning how to run differently, I suppose, is your glutes need to fire a lot more, your hamstrings need to help out and take a bit more load.
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Because I find that I'm running on the side of my foot, whether that's it's still healing, it's still swollen at the end of the day, and it's 12 months on, and the foot's still swollen.
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And you can notice it when you put next to each other, this foot sits up here, as opposed to this one.
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Um, so that is quite still inflamed, but then I'm putting pressure on it, I suppose, so it's not healing fully.
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Um, but it's you know it's been through quite a lot since operation.
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Yeah, you know, we've done double on course Ken Marathon, we've done the 50 mile um one mile laps, we've done a 65 mile cardiff to Hereford.
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Yeah.
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Um done any more since that?
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Yeah, the the Sims with your races.
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Yeah, you joined me on a few of my Sims.
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Do you know what I mean?
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Yeah, I guess we're tapping into the next uh section already in terms of training that you put into it.
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I think you must have done based on the three for I think you've done about four to five ultra marathons this year.
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Yeah.
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It's quite long off the back of an operation.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Which is is it good?
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Is it silly?
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Is it stupid?
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I don't know.
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I'm I'm still I'm still running lay.
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I think we touched on this on a little video we did drawing one of mine.
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Uh Sims was the it's it's in the mind, it's mental.
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I think ultimately we both know, and I don't think a lot of people know what their body's limits are in terms of pushing themselves from an endurance event perspective.
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But equally, okay, I've got a niggle.
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Is it something that needs to be uh listened to in terms of stopping, or is it something that actually needs to be able to push through?
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And I think you've really tested that, and I think it's brave to test it because the easy option is to just say I'm injured, stop.
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Yeah, in some cases is a sensible option, but I always do a little audit.
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Okay, it hurt today when I ran.
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Okay, I'm not gonna stop, I'll go tomorrow.
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You know, don't get me wrong, if it was like stopping you walking, then it's different.
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But okay, go tomorrow, yeah, it's still a hurt.
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And is it getting better or worse?
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Have I flared up post?
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Have I flared up the next morning?
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I think the next morning thing is a big thing because obviously you're sleeping, so you're recovering.
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Okay, three days in, last day today.
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If it does flare up again and it does flare up in the next morning, stop.
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Yeah, giving it that opportunity to push your mind through that.
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Um, but it's a tricky thing to do, isn't it?
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I think we said it though, like said it in the Sims that if it's a safe environment to do it and it's controlled, yeah, then try it, go for it.
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Yeah, if you're risking stuff, you know, we don't like risk as coaches, as humans, you know, we we need to kind of limit that risk, especially when there's safety involved, yeah.
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Definitely.
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Um I don't know, it's like yeah.
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Have I done too much too soon?
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A lot of people will say that.
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But going back to the the the mentalities kind of thing, I've got a book coming out, I'm writing a book at the moment, another book, and this one's about me.
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And I don't I'm quite a closed person, I don't kind of put my feelings out there, my thoughts are kind uh you know, I do keep it got a bit emotional, Down.
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No, I I mean this book does kind of go into that kind of stuff, and it kind of does put it all on the table for people to see.
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Because after my operation, I mean I piled on the fucking weight, you know, I massively.
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You looked like um sort of lope-on dodgeball.
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Yeah, I did.
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I was like a hamster mess like that, just smashing it in me like as if I was surviving in winter or something, like a bear.
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But like I looked at myself after my operation, you know, probably two months down the line went and excuse my language, but what the fuck are you are you doing?
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What have you done to yourself, you absolute imbecile?
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You know, and and it talks about that.
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Looking at myself, and the the book is actually called Miles Miles from Myself because I do feel that I was miles from where I was before my operation.
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I was in a really good place, completed Iron Man Wales, done a few really good marathon times, half marathons, had the operation, looked at myself in the mirror one day and thought, what the fuck?
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What are you doing?
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I mean I'd have done that looking at you on the other day of the week.
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And most people do do that, but no, I think there's a a really a really good thing to talk about and dive into there because it is easy to let it slip, especially when you've got that injury.
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Um, I spoken about this the other day about now I'm injured, but I know going out and walking helps, but it hurts, and it's like the mentality to have to switch your brain into the moment of this is going to hurt before it gets better, it takes a lot.
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Yeah, because when you're so used to this high adrenal thing up here, to just going for a mile walk in the morning and that being the highlight exercise of your day, potentially a swim or whatever, to motivate yourself for that is hard, but you know it'll get you better, don't you?
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I mean, if you think about like you know the operation itself, I went from like I said, really good marathon times, half marathon times, and then literally bang, stop.
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You cannot physically move, and I I can't explain.
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Yes, it's only a foot operation, um, and it's not the end of the world, but everything is taken away from you.
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And I go in my book, I talk about this the wife having to help you shower, you know, and that taking literally an hour and a half to two hours a time to have a shower every day because you can't put any weight on it.
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I couldn't load bed for three months.
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I didn't sleep upstairs in my in my bedroom for two months, yeah, you know, doing like 50 steps a day to the toilet, which is there, you know.
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Honestly, yeah, it was hard, it's a hard journey.
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I remember we started a podcast around that period of time and it was like, oh crap, we've got that.
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Oh crap, we've got that.
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And I was like, Yeah, I'll get it, I'll get it.
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But those are the things that people don't talk about in a sense of like for us, that's massive.
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Don't get me wrong, I know there are people out there that probably only do 50 steps a day, that's their life.
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But when it's stripped from you, when you're probably you know, you're on your feet in your job at the garage, you know, you're probably doing what 15 to 20,000 like basic miles per day with running as well.
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For that to go down to 50, that's I mean, I don't even know what the mass was on that, but that's ridiculously different, isn't it?
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It's madness, and but like it's like the it's it's it's also the the livelihood.
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So again, your wife having to shower you and all that stuff, going to the loo, you know.
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Oh my god, I I've got to put weight on that side, you know, to to to to go to the loo and things like that, and whatever it might be, you know.
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Oh uh, you know, I'm sat down, I want to go make a cup of tea.
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Oh, gotta go make a cup of tea.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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It's taken away from you.
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Keep your foot elevated for two months, mate.
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I tell you, it's hard work, literally uh injecting yourself with bloody stop blood clots.
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I hate ejections as this and like a I hate it.
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And to get them, I mean they're not small, it's not like a diabetic one when you put it in and it goes, honestly, the needles like that, and you're like horrible, hated it, hated it.
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Anyway, we've gone off a bit of a go back to the ambitious thing though.
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Well, I'm I'm saying ambitious, but you said, Have I done too much?
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And to some people I would say that I have.
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This is a big thing that I'm trying to promote to people that aren't in an ambitious mindset.
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We're very ambitious people, whether it be through business, through our own personal growth, through training with family or whatever it might be.
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And I think personally, we're in this society at the moment where a lot of people would see what you've done as wrong, yeah, but they don't understand what you've had taken from you.
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And even though you have had fast marathons, fast fast halves, completed multiple iron's, because you're an ambitious human, you always want more, and that's not an unhealthy thing to keep wanting more.
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No, I don't think so.
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I think it's a good thing sometimes.
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And well, the stuff how how the equinox come about is that I start to feel a little bit better, start to start to move a lot more.
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I think I was still on crutches at the time when I entered this race.
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Yeah, why not?
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And you were starting to do yours and you'd get a bit jealous of mine, I think, wouldn't you?
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There's some running, yeah.
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I was like, oh come on.
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And then I remember being in my office at home and I had it up on the screen and thought I could do that.
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Beth said, Don't you dare.
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You can't do it.
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Enter.
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That was it, and that's all I needed.
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Yes, it's best fault, basically.
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That's all I needed was somebody to say, you can't do something, you're not allowed to do it.
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You know, makes you know.
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And it's like the not allowed sense of it is like there's two things to that.
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It's like, okay, you know, if if it was the week after operation, of course you're not allowed.
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Yes, you know, there's there's that side of it, but that mindset of you you shouldn't and you're not allowed to is such a unique thing to think about in a sense of like, well, why not?
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Yeah, yeah.
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So I locked I locked the dating, locked the racing.
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I knew it was gonna be 12 months from operation.
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Yeah, so let's try it.
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And I think it shows that compound effect of it's 12 months away.
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Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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If I can just take one step every day, we're gonna get there.
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And so far, we'd like to completed 50 mile lap, four or five vultures this year, two review, yeah, double on course weekend is part of the training, and a 65-mile run.
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Yeah.
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So I'm there, you know, I'm ready for this race, I'm ready to hit it hard.
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Yeah, um, yeah, I really am.
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It's one, two, three weeks away.
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Yeah, 24 days.
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24 days and counting.
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What does training look like between now and Ecinox 24 days ago?
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Well, I have picked up a slight injury, um, which I think is more of a fat pad in my um sole of my foot on the good side.
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Um, so I'm just gonna try and rest it a little bit, but still, yeah, still a little bit of intensity training when I can.
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Strength training is still there, but again, it's starting to taper off really now.
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Uh, might be a little bit too soon, but I think with the injury, I just need to give myself a bit of a chance.
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I'm really probably still recovering from the Cardiff.
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Do you know what though?
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We sat on your sofa and you asked me before my event how much is it physical and how much is it mental?
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I don't know what scores I gave that day, but if you asked me that question today, I'd say 90% mental, 10% physical.
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Yeah.
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Because let's be honest, you ain't gonna lose fitness in three weeks.
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No, yeah, and it's a mental thing.
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When we got back to Cardiff to Hereford, that period of time when you struggled because of the heat, it was mental.
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Yeah, you know, yeah, and you said it yourself, I was ready to quit, but I didn't.
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Yeah, and you were like, I don't, you know, yeah, we had a loose plan to get to the coffee pot for a time, but ultimately we were getting to Hereford no matter if it was midnight or the next day.
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We'd have kept going until Sunday if we had to.
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Yeah, so okay, well that's good.
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Yeah, so not lot not long left then for the training perspective.
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Um, what have you learned, I guess, this year on your fueling and also your kit?
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Are you planning on carrying much kit on the laps with you?
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I mean, you're gonna have a fantastic pit stop, you know.
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I hope so.
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You know, by me.
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Support crew.
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Support crew for me.
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No, I don't think I think I'm gonna carry my uh uh EXO belt, is it called?
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Uh XO.
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Exo belt and carry that because it's really um Pringle carrier.
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Pringle carrier.
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Yeah, I'm gonna carry that.
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I'm gonna carry carb.
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I'm gonna go through the cut the carb mix every single lap.
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Um, just keep refilling that, and then I'll go through the Lucas Aid.
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Uh well in that's gonna be 60 grams per drink.
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Per lap.
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Per lap.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's gonna be hopefully per hour.
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And then if I could top that up with a bit of food on top of that, hopefully I can hit my target of 80, 80 grams per hour, which would be quite nice.
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And then go through a cycle of water, Lucas Aid, electrolytes in the other kind of pocket.
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Uh and that's it, really.
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I think just trying to eat every lap, um, grabbing something off the crew rather than having to carry it and just refilling myself every time.
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Yeah, um, my aim is hopefully not to stop at all until I absolutely need to do a job.
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And my meat by a job, I'm talking, change my shoes, socks, whatever it is, and I need to obviously keep my foot Vaselined and that kind of stuff, especially on my operation foot, because obviously it's rubbing where the toe's quite big, it rubs against the inside of it.
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Um, so I need to kind of Vaseline that up quite a lot.
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So I'll stop to do a job.
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Apart from that, I'm gonna keep going, hopefully.
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I'm so jealous.
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I'm thinking about it now.
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Um just going back to because we we we adopted this at one of my sims, the water leucasade electrolyte, but also not just leucusade, different flavour leucusades.
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Um, I know why I took that into consideration.
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Why is that a good thing to swap out your drinks?
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Literally to swap out the taste buds if it keeps cycling through different tastes because you're gonna get bloody sick of it.
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Eventually, you're gonna get sick of that cycle.
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Yeah, you go.
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Everyone loves a leukusade.
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You might have taken a cup of tea on one, you know, whatever it is.
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You are gonna start playing footsie.
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Yeah, we are.
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Yeah, you might yeah, you're gonna get sick of it, guaranteed.
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And the other um thing I haven't I've tried, I'm gonna do is pot noodle.
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Literally, chicken and muscle, beef and tomato.
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Yeah, it's gonna be lukewarm, and I'm literally gonna grab it and I'm gonna smash it down my neck as quick as I can.
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The other thing that you found on your one mile uh repeat sim that was good was the little rice pudding part.
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Yeah, really good.
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Ambrosia rice pudding, yeah.
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Absolutely amazing.
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So I've created a list of things you've got to buy.
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Yeah, it's massive.
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I've not gone away for a week, mate.
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It's the kit you have to take, it's phenomenal.
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And uh yeah, it's gonna be good.
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Yeah, and I mean looking at the kit, you know, the weather's starting to change in the morning, it's bloody cold, um, starting to get a bit fresh, isn't it?
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So you've got to think about warm kit, hat, you know what's gonna be like in the middle of the night, it's gonna rain during the day might rain.
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So all those waterproof kits, socks, shoes, yeah, the kit list is endless.
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It really is.
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Nice buzzing, absolute buzzing, and I like to say I'm gonna say to the crew, I'm gonna say to you, whatever you do, do not let me fucking quit.
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I cannot quit.
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The only way I can quit is if one foot faced this way, I never foot face this.
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That's it.
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Apart from that, I've gotta you gotta make me keep going.
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There's no excuses.
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Yeah, there's zero excuses.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I'm gonna put that out there now.
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There's no excuses on this.
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Yeah, I'm going for it.
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I'll push you on.
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Absolutely.
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Hopefully.
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So the weekend itself, the actual race is Saturday to Sunday.
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Saturday, yeah.
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Midday?
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Midday.
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Midday to midday.
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Yeah.
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So we're going down Friday morning.
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Friday, Friday morning, yeah.
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You can't get in there till about 12 o'clock anyway.
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Oh, you can.
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Because Injur was nine, isn't it?
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This is 12 o'clock.
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We're still gonna leave it like five days.
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It's a bit of a smaller event, but I think they put on a really good show.
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Yeah.
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I think the two people that run it, husband and wife, uh, and they yeah, it's kind of a family organised event.
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Yeah, I fancy that next year, to be fair.
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Yeah, I liked Enjoy, don't get me wrong, but I'm not a massive big event person, but personally, and we spoke about that the other day.
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I found more achievement and enjoyed our run that we created more than than in it.
00:20:16.880 --> 00:20:17.759
Yeah, weird.
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So okay, so we'll leave whatever time we leave, get there.
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Uh event opens at midday on Friday.
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What's the plan of attack Friday?
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So set up SPC HQ, uh, which is gonna be gazebos, flags, proper full branding.
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Yeah, um, and yeah, just set up the kit, gonna take the camper van out.
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Van's coming, yeah, fill that up with kit.
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We put that out the side of the door, didn't we, last time?
00:20:39.519 --> 00:20:40.319
That worked really well.
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Yeah, and I think one of the biggest things that I've seen, and we did it for me, is that the camp has to be set up around your chair.
00:20:46.960 --> 00:20:47.200
Yeah.
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Well, I ain't gonna need a chair because I'm not sitting down.
00:20:49.599 --> 00:20:49.920
Wow.
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What about when you're doing work?
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I lie down.
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I'll be in the chair then.
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You in the chair, my feet can be up, and yeah, Beth can vastly my feet when I'm lying down.
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Lovely.
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Sounds good.
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Two-minute pit stop, two-minute pit stop.
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Um, okay, so that's on the Friday, and then we're checking in to Premier Inn.
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Local Premier Inn Premier In, which is only literally five minutes down the road, so really, really easy.
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And what do you think about fuelling that night?
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Uh I think just have whatever you fancy.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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If it's a steak, have a steak.
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If it's a whatever, whatever.
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On the day feeling, vibe, what do we call it?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And then breakfast the next day.
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I went to the biggest.
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Yeah, smashing as much as you can of the old.
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I'm gonna beat for you as well.
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Mate, I'm looking forward to it.
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Yeah, porridge, what yeah, continental breakfast as well, don't they?
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And then the full English, but try and have that early enough, you know, so digest it so you you're not hungry, you're still full, but not bloated by the time twelve o'clock comes.
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And hopefully you digest a bit of it before midday.
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So first lap, you're not thinking, oh god.
00:21:50.079 --> 00:21:50.559
Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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And is there a bit of course entertainment on the way?
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I don't really know.
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They have they've done a kind of not a race briefing yet.
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They've done like um a bit of an overview of it, but they've got another briefing coming up, which I'm gonna talk a bit more about that.
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I believe it's similar to uh Endure where they have lights around uh the you know the route and that kind of stuff.
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And but hopefully, yeah, whether they've got singers or alvises out there, I don't know.
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I'll dress up as Alvis.
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I'll come out in the woods, yeah.
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It's gonna be quality, mate.
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Are we gonna take the boombox speaker again?
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So I can uh definitely do a bit of that.
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100%.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Amazing.
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I won't be joining you though.
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No, you'll be brilliant.
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You can take it with you if you want.
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Our kids will be there though.
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Yeah, you'd be there.
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Yeah, alright, I'll put them in control of that.
00:22:33.039 --> 00:22:34.960
So, yeah, Saturday through to Sunday.
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Yeah, let's see what happens.
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Well, again, you can go out, so like same as in jaw, you can go out at 11.59.
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Yeah, yeah, so you can get in one more lap if you really.
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You've got to do that with that within an hour though, haven't you?
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I don't know.
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Uh in draw you did.
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You have to be back before 159.
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159, 1259.
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1259 must be.
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Yeah.
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Alright, yeah.
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So you wouldn't be able to go out at 1159 though.
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No, you're gonna put out a really quick 10k.
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Because it's longer than in jaw because in jail's five miles, isn't it?
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It's an extra mile to be had here.
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Um yeah, look forward to it, mate.
00:23:03.759 --> 00:23:05.359
Um, yeah, let's see what happens.
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Do you have a goal?
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100 miles would be amazing.
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110, dare I say it, even better.
00:23:14.400 --> 00:23:19.359
Uh podium finish, fucking over the moon, ecstatic, yeah, unbelievable.
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Never gonna happen, but I'm gonna put it, you know, as a target.
00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:23.119
Yeah, why not?
00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:31.440
If you keep if you keep going and you keep moving forward, um you know, every step you do is gonna be a count towards that goal, isn't it?
00:23:31.519 --> 00:23:33.279
And that mileage, it's all gonna add up.
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And if I don't stop and only stop for a job, for a purpose, then the mileage is gonna hopefully rack up quickly.
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And I look back at Cardin and think, you know, Card have took us 15 hours, you know, and we're done 65 with stops, and hopefully I don't stop as much, obviously, at this one, then it's doable.
00:23:50.880 --> 00:23:51.519
But we'll shall see.
00:23:51.680 --> 00:23:53.519
Anything can happen on the day, anything can happen.
00:23:53.680 --> 00:23:54.880
Well, that's what I said in mine.
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You know, the injury happened.
00:23:56.240 --> 00:24:00.799
I was uh my my engine was ready, but it you know, if shit happens, yeah, exactly.
00:24:01.440 --> 00:24:02.400
That's enjoyment sport, yeah.
00:24:02.960 --> 00:24:03.279
Exactly that.
00:24:03.359 --> 00:24:04.559
You twist your own from the first land.
00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:05.519
Yep, go with the flow.
00:24:05.680 --> 00:24:08.240
Max has tapping crash on the first line with the Formula One this weekend.
00:24:08.720 --> 00:24:09.519
It's the way it happens, yeah.
00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:11.279
Yeah, hopefully it doesn't.
00:24:11.359 --> 00:24:12.240
No, we shall see.
00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:13.680
Fingers crossed, fingers crossed.
00:24:13.839 --> 00:24:14.240
Oh man.
00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:19.599
Well, I think it'll be a good opportunity for us to sit down after uh to debrief from yours and then I like it.
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Yeah, yeah.
00:24:21.759 --> 00:24:26.880
And I'd like to do a debrief after that of uh another bite size for both of us of things that we've learned from it.
00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:27.119
Yeah.
00:24:27.279 --> 00:24:35.039
So that if anyone's going into this the 24-hour events next year, what did we do that we or what do we wish we did or didn't do and all of that stuff.
00:24:35.200 --> 00:24:35.680
Yeah, exactly.
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Sound good?
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Yeah, it'd be amazing.
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Smash in.
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Let's do it.
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