EP #21 - Slacker Dave Loves Hollywood Doug Rosekrans

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Hey, alright.
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Hey, welcome to the Slacker Day of Loves Nebraska podcast.
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Thank you for tuning in.
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Uh, I just gotta get these get these out of here before I don't forget them.
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Uh, I also want to thank Kane for being the uh the uh technical wizard that he is and uh supporting me and uh giving me good good vibes all the time.
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And uh uh of course my lovely wife Amanda.
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And uh hey Matt hasn't been on in a couple uh we missed Matt, and I think we're gonna fix that pretty soon.
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Um that's coming up in uh whatever next couple weeks or whatever.
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But this week we are coming uh from Le Club du Fez, W Tavern again in the beer garden.
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It's really nice of them.
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They let me do this out here.
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It's kind of it's kind of quiet this time of the day, and they can turn off the music for me.
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And just, you know, thank you very much, and thank you for uh supporting uh like O'Rourks in the zoo and Rick Peters.
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Um all right, but today we have I've been wanting this one since I started the podcast, and I finally got him, hunted him down, put him, roped him down, dragged him over here.
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I have Hollywood Doug Rosencranz.
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The legend, Hollywood Doug Rosencranz.
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Come on, man.
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Uh you know, you deserve it.
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Been doing this shit a long time.
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Uh a few years.
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A few years.
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Still playing.
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Yeah, not very much, but still playing though, right?
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A little bit here and there.
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I've seen you up there on the uh Roots Music Jam.
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Yeah, yeah.
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That's about it anymore.
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I get together with some friends of mine too.
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But yeah.
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Not like five or six nights a week like we used to do.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Uh I had a band, I was in a band for a while.
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We probably didn't practice for like four years.
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I remember two or three practices with the heart movers.
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Just get the just get the basics down.
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Oh you called off tunes on stage.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And we may have never played it together before.
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We did a lot of that.
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But when we did rehearse, uh two or three times is all I can recall.
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I'm guessing maybe before you were gonna record?
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No.
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No?
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Oh god, just happened.
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We decided we'd get together and we'd learn some new tunes, and everybody'd bring some new tunes.
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And I'd bring a tune, and the way we would present the show was Sean would do two or three songs, Sid would do two or three songs, Madison Slim would do two or three songs, and then I would do two or three songs, and then we'd usually that would fill up a set, and we'd play a little thing and take a break.
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Heck yeah.
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But uh we uh would have the rehearsals, and I'd bring a song, and it'd come Madison Slim's time to do the stuff, and he would do the song that I brought to rehearsal.
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Oh yeah.
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He did that two or three times, and I just decided after the last time I did the song again, the same thing.
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We did the same song right in a row, and I got a little better applause on it.
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That was the last time that happened.
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That's funny.
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Yeah, yeah.
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All right, uh, I gotta get some stuff out of the way.
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Uh from Columbus originally?
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Were you born in Columbus?
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I uh I uh I'm from Denton, Nebraska.
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You originally from Denton?
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Yeah, and before I was five, we moved up to Columbus.
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And I uh stayed up there and graduated from high school and couldn't wait to leave.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I was graduated at 17, started going to school down here.
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Columbus, uh good river town.
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Oh yeah, we had the loop and platte, we could walk there.
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Oh yeah.
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You know, and I spent a lot of time on the river.
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Yeah, I grew up on the Elkorn.
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Yeah, that was a good, that's a good fishing river too, man.
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Yeah.
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In fact, I like going up to Long Pine because that's where it starts, up in that neighborhood, just a few miles out of town.
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Yeah.
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And uh that's that's a great place.
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Longpine, uh, it's on my bucket list of places to go to.
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Yeah, it's really a good place to go.
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Um, I think it'd be a lot of fun to rent one of those cabins right on the creek uh.
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I've done that.
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What are we gonna call that?
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It's not a rent.
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Long Pine Creek Creek.
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And that feeds uh eventually into the Niabrara.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So, and that's full of trout, and that's the closest place to Lincoln in Nebraska that has naturally growing trout.
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They don't seed that creek at all.
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Why why um just random thought?
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Why why do you think that is?
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Don't need to.
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They've always been there.
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Yeah, but but you know, and the history of the town.
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There's some other rivers in the sand hills that have trout in them, don't they?
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Or well, the one uh like Bone Creek, which is right next to it, goes over to uh and it happens to run through where all the cattle stockyards are at, and they've killed all the trout.
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And that used to be it, you know, all those creeks, the dismal and the everything that feeds into the Nibrera, most of them have trout.
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You know.
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I did not know this.
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I am learning something right now.
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And Vertigo Creek, which is the closest to Lincoln, is they have a uh the game in parks have the trout fishery up there, and all that seeded in.
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So but uh, you know.
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Hey, that's cool.
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So your family has a close tie to Denton, correct?
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Oh yeah.
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My uh my ancestors were some of the original people in the town.
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And uh yeah, yeah.
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And uh I moved back there in about 82, just after my son James was born.
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And so I've been living there ever since, and I'm in my grandpa and grandma's house where my mom and dad, or my mom, well, my mom and dad met because she was rooming there, and he got back from World War II, and uh she was teaching school out in Denmark.
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That's why I'm here.
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And uh, but yeah, that's my Aunt Ruth uh grew up there too, and she was she was a crippled gal that uh went to art school here in Nebraska and packed up a suitcase, two hundred dollars in her pocket, went to New York City.
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Two years later, she was uh she had a show in the Whitney Museum.
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Oh wow.
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And in the about late 60s, early 70s, she started illustrating children's books.
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And if you go down to the heritage room at the Bennett Martin Library, which they probably have moved, but are getting ready to move, uh, you'll see all of her books and her artwork up there, a lot of it.
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Oh, that's cool, huh?
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So she was she was her and her husband were great.
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And in fact, I started playing music because I went to art school like she did each, I even had the same art history teacher that she had.
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That's another story.
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He was great.
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Uh and anyway, uh oh.
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I've kind of lost my train of thought there.
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Well, that's cool.
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That happens, uh that happens to me a lot, Doug.
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Oh yeah.
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Um I wanna uh you're also you still do uh your civic duty, you still volunteer for something at Bennett Wright?
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Are you on some board or I'm on the village board of Denton and I'm up for re-election this year.
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Awesome, awesome.
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And if I'm lucky, I'll lose.
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But if you win, you'll serve.
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Oh yeah, yeah.
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It's a four-year term.
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And I've done that.
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I've probably been on the board off and on for maybe over 20 years.
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I uh so I've done my time.
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I want to take the podcast through the uh Bennett uh historical uh the museum, the heritage museum.
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Well, Denton.
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Denton.
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What did I say?
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Bennett?
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Bennett.
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I meant Denton.
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Denton, yeah, yeah.
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They have a bunch of my Aunt Ruth's books in there, and they have a case dedicated to her.
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I uh I uh I love the the town heritage museums.
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I I wish every town had one.
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Uh a lot of a lot of volunteer work goes into something like that.
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And I I I shout out all those people that volunteer.
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I shout out all volunteers, by the way.
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I love Vance.
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Well, I did a little volunteer work for them this year.
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They had uh the Nebraska Arboretum come out.
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Yeah, shout out uh now plant Nebraska.
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Uh they they changed that's that's a that's the bunch.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Bob Hendrickson, friend of the show.
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Uh I believe he's involved with it.
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I'm not sure.
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But we dealt with it.
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We dealt with a a couple of ladies that came out.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And we did a lot of planting around the community center, but across the street uh from the community center is a historical uh facility, and I tilled all that up so they could plant what they did, and the arboretum came out, and there was a bunch of volunteers that came out.
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So, you know.
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I everybody always says the best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago.
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I say right now.
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Right now is the best time.
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Right now, October.
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I'm just saying any time, right now.
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Well, anyway.
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If you want to plant a tree, just plant it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But planting in the fall is a good time.
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The best time to plant trees and shrubs is actually in the fall, yeah.
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But it doesn't, I planted them in the spring.
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You take care of them, they'll do you.
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They'll do you right.
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Yeah.
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Alright, so uh uh uh your musical what got you into playing guitar?
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Like did the family, was the musical family anybody when I was a kid we went up to Minnesota all the time and we visited some shirt-tailed relatives out at their farm, which was close to the place where we used to go fishing all the time.
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And we were upstairs in the house, and they had one of those little golden record players, and they had one record, and I put it on, and I spent the whole afternoon up there listening to that record over and over and over again.
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It was Blueberry Hill by Pat Stonho.
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Oh wow, and I was probably seven, eight.
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And then when I heard Chuck Berry doing Johnny Be Good, I had to have a guitar.
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And I finally got one.
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And uh I think it was a$50 Japanese Norma classical guitar, and I still have it.
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Oh beautiful.
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And uh I put it on a layaway, and I'd be paying him 50 cents, maybe a dollar, if I could scrape up the money.
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I think I put five dollars down on it.
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He must have called my mom.
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And she went and picked up the guitar for me.
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Oh, God bless.
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Yeah, so and uh I had friends that played, and I'd go and watch bands and watch their fingers, and then I'd try to go home after the dance and try to figure out what they were doing.
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Took me forever to learn how to play guitar.
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Well, I mean you just figured out how to tune it.
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Well, that was another story, but they had the little blow tuners, but if you blew too hard, you changed the pits, you know.
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But you know, it's so it was I learned mainly by trial and error.
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I I was too embarrassed to ask people to teach me things, but I got over that.
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But so when you started playing guitar, how old were you about then?
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I think it was about 14.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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17, 14.
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That's about the time Chuck Berry come out with that.
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And uh it was shortly after that that I got that.
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They had uh it was one of the old music stores where you could walk in the booth and listen to the record.
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Yeah.
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You know, and actually you could record in those booths too.
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Oh wow.
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Wow.
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So uh when did you start your first band or get in a band?
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Did you have friends?
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I mean, I always like to ask the question, what made you think that you could be in a band?
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Well, I don't know, when I was a kid, I just learned a uh I was listening to a lot of uh my uncle sent me a record, it's actually a five-record set, and I was the only person that listened to it.
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It was a Riverside History of Classic Jazz.
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It had Maul Rainey, it had Bessie Smith, it had, you know, uh Big Bill Brunsey, it had uh oh gosh, uh Ida Cox and Chippy Hill, but some of these great, great blues piano players, a lot of boogie woogie and stuff, uh Wesley Wallace and great old stuff, cripple clearance lofton, you know, and I listened to that a lot, but I I listened to Bob Dillon too.
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And the first time I played, I played in front of the whole school.
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Oh wow.
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And I played Mr.
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Tamboree.
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Nice.
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I don't think I can even play it anymore.
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But uh I got on stage and since I was kind of the class clown, everybody broke out in laughter.
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And I'm going, oh boy.
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If what I got done, they all clap.
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Oh wow, that's awesome.
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But scared the shit out of me.
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Oh my god.
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Yeah, like that first time when things are that scary situation, but you know, you just you got through it.
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You know, I don't think it was very good, but you know better than anybody else?
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Nobody else did it, right?
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Well, it was, you know, it was nice to get that applause, man.
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It just kind of keeps you going.
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So what was the first band you were in?
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The first band was shortly after that.
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It was a friend of mine, Les Kirstein, and a bunch of us, and he was the only one that could really play.
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And they would do a set, and then I would do a couple of songs, and then we'd all play together again, you know.
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And so it was and the first the first and only gig that we had was in Norfolk, Nebraska at a truck stop.
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And we made one of the moms drew it drove us up there, and I think we each made seven dollars.
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Oh damn.
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Big time.
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That's big money.
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That's big money.
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I mean, I played some shows in the last year or two that I've made seven dollars.
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Yeah, remember we played uh the Heart Murmurs, we played at Lewis, Iowa, and it was the weekend that uh uh the Rumbles got back together after 20 or 30 years or something.
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And they were playing in Atlantic, and we were playing about 20 miles away at Lewis, Iowa, and nobody showed up.
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And He paid us off with he pull all the change out of the cash register.
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And I think he even owed us a few bucks and we just said.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Give me some gas money.
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Yeah.
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So.
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Oh, that's a tough, that is a tough, uh, that's a tough competition right there.
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Well, yeah.
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And nobody, and he didn't advertise at all.
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Yeah.
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And the rumble was a big thing.
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And he expected, you know, he came to the zoo bar and saw it packed, and we were playing.
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And he figured, well, since we're playing, they're gonna drive an hour and a half for Lincoln.
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Hell they ain't gonna drive that far.
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They don't live in the sand hills.
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No, no.
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Damn though.
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Man.
00:22:56.240 --> 00:22:58.799
So your first band high school, right?
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Or yeah, that was, yeah.
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Yeah.
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And uh, but we weren't really a band.
00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:10.079
I mean, that was the only thing we ever played.
00:23:10.240 --> 00:23:11.519
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:23:12.480 --> 00:23:17.759
But uh I was friends with the the guys in the Echoes and the Sonics.
00:23:18.640 --> 00:23:26.960
Used to go see Little Joe and the Ramrods out of Norfolk, who later became the Smoke Ring.
00:23:27.119 --> 00:23:28.640
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:23:28.880 --> 00:23:38.720
And one of the members of the band was Tom Paul Glazer, who wrote some great songs and ended up hanging out with Willie and Whalen and the boys.
00:23:38.960 --> 00:23:39.599
Heck yeah.
00:23:39.839 --> 00:24:12.240
You know, and uh but my favorite band was uh uh the fabulous flippers, and they were booked out of Oklahoma City by Midland Productions, and there was a whole circuit of clubs North Dakota to Texas, and you got on that circuit and there were great bands, the checkmates, uh, Spider and the Crabs, Little Spider Turner.
00:24:12.319 --> 00:24:13.759
He was a singing one.
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I'll tell you, checkmates were really good too.
00:24:19.759 --> 00:24:27.599
And the red dogs, the red dog in, you know, there was a lot of accidents.
00:24:28.319 --> 00:24:45.519
That uh I had a friend of mine that caught Lonnie Mac when he'd just come out with uh uh his cover uh that got him on the map in 62, and he played down in uh Meryville, Kansas.
00:24:46.400 --> 00:24:49.680
And I think it was called the TNC Tap Room.
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All right.
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Right on the highway, right out of town.
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And he he says, he says the band was playing.
00:25:01.680 --> 00:25:20.319
Lonnie was a little bit late, and the band was on about their third number, and after about the second number, they went out to have a cigarette, and up comes Lonnie pulling up in a big convertible, and his flying V was sitting in the back seat.
00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:30.880
He grabs it, runs in the back door, plugs in, just picks up where the band was playing, you know.
00:25:31.200 --> 00:25:34.880
God, he says it was one of the best things he'd ever seen.
00:25:35.200 --> 00:25:35.839
Wow.
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All right, we gotta take a quick break, and then we'll come back in one second after we do some uh uh uh thinking some sponsors.
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So give us one minute, and we're right back.
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Oh god.
00:25:50.559 --> 00:25:55.839
Hey, I want to thank Duffy Tavern for being a sponsor of the Slacker Dave Loves Nebraska podcast.
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Thank you, Dave.
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Rockabilly and all that kind of related fun music, and then Tuesday mornings from 6 a.m.
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to 8 a.m.
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It's the Sugar Frosted Chocolate Bomb Diggity Good Time Show.
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And you never know what you're gonna hear on there, but they call him Rickabilly.
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I like to call him Rickopedia.
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He knows a lot, great shows.
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We're at 1329 O Street, and uh you know Works I've always described as kind of like the backstage to the Lincoln uh musical community.
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They do fun things all year round, they got specials every day, they got two pool tables, they do dance parties, they got a chili cook-off every year.
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Thank you.
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Hey, I just want to thank the two bar for sponsoring the Slacker Dave Love Nebraska podcast.
00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:31.920
Pete, I I want to thank you a lot for doing this.
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Uh appreciate it.
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Tell people why they should come to the two bars.
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I mean, where else are you gonna go?
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No, it's dead right there.
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All right.
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Thanks, Pete.
00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:51.839
All right, hey, thanks to uh sponsors, uh Slacker Dave Loves Nebraska Podcast, Doug Rose and France, in case you're just catching the middle of it.
00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:52.559
I don't know.
00:28:52.720 --> 00:29:00.400
I guess I'm used to being on the radio and people, you know, they say on the radio your audience changes every 15 minutes.
00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:06.400
But I guess on a podcast, if you're gonna listen to it, you're watching, you're gonna watch it.
00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:08.319
You're not gonna just jump in the middle of it.
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:09.279
I don't know.
00:29:09.599 --> 00:29:12.400
Uh I'm learning, I'm learning this stuff here.
00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:14.480
Anybody need a sandwich?
00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:19.440
Get something cold out of the fridge.
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:22.960
Got some lettuce.
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Gotta eat that lettuce up.
00:29:24.559 --> 00:29:25.359
Oh yeah.
00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:27.440
Uh all right.
00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:35.839
So uh the love of the blues.
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:41.920
Did that come from that jazz box set or album you had?
00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:45.920
I guess would it have been a box set back then or would it just been a collection?
00:29:46.160 --> 00:29:47.920
It was a box set back then.
00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:48.480
Yeah, yeah.
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And it was on Riverside Records.
00:29:51.519 --> 00:30:09.680
And yeah, my uncle sent me that, and I played that thing, and it started off the record with I believe the Fra Fra tribesman in West Africa doing this rhythmic stuff that was just killer.
00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:23.039
And so it it it traced it back to West Africa via the Caribbean, you know, New Orleans, wherever.
00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:33.519
I mean, you know, and then the Piedmont, because the people, the slaves that went north didn't go to New Orleans, they went up to Charleston.
00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:34.000
Yeah.
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Up as far as New York City and Washington, D.C.
00:30:39.039 --> 00:30:43.279
They were big, big slave trade.
00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:47.599
Oh it was all over the place, so you know.
00:30:49.680 --> 00:30:57.920
But uh yeah, that was uh I don't know.
00:30:58.720 --> 00:31:00.720
How'd you get into the blues?
00:31:01.519 --> 00:31:10.400
Uh well, listen to that and uh Bob Dylan.
00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:28.720
And then back then there was the folk craze going on, and they'd have shows like Hootin Danny, and there'd be people like that were the real deal, not not the garter on the shirt sleeve type of people, but actual players.
00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:35.839
You know, I remember seeing Mississippi John Hurt, and I remember seeing Elizabeth Cotton on the tele.
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:40.559
She played with the strings upside down.
00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:46.000
She played left-handed or and didn't turn the strings around.
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Yeah.
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And had this beautiful.
00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:55.440
She worked for Pete Seeger for 25 years, and he didn't even know she played music.
00:31:58.799 --> 00:32:03.039
You know, uh, but she raised his kids.
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:13.920
In that era of that revival era where they were finding people that didn't know that they were famous.
00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:18.319
And the one that they forget about is Reverend Gary Davis.
00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:27.839
He taught people like Stephen Grossman, Grossman, you know, and anybody and everybody.
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:33.200
And everybody was paying attention to him that was playing music back then.
00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:39.759
He knew Mary Travers before she was in Peter Paul and Mary.
00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:52.640
She would hang around, and he would charge, like when he taught Stephen Stephen Grossman, he charged him five dollars.
00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:55.279
And it was an all-day affair.
00:32:55.519 --> 00:32:56.960
Oh wow, wow.
00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:03.279
And Grossman turned out to be one hell of a player, you know.
00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:09.920
But that's that's one guy that everybody forgets about.
00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:17.440
And he was really kind of a ramrod in that whole thing, and everybody was trying to play like him.
00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:20.960
And a lot of people did his songs.
00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:27.839
I uh in the beginning, the beginning, the beginning.
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Uh I'm uh Charlie Feathers, like not, you know, not enough talking about Charlie Feathers, who's actually a native fellow, I believe, correct, if correctly.
00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:45.759
I I'm not sure of that, but he could be.
00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:48.799
I'm I'm pretty pretty sure on that one.
00:33:49.440 --> 00:34:01.839
So, you know, it's not just the blues, it's not just uh the coming in from the Africa, but it's also the drums are that four and the floor, that's that's native.
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:03.920
But that's not what we're here to talk about.
00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:06.799
Well, you're getting back to New Orleans now.
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:07.680
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:19.679
You not only had the Indian, you had Creole, you had Caribbean, you had African, you had everything in in a nice gumbo.
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:20.400
Heck.
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Doped off with a nice beignet.
00:34:26.559 --> 00:34:28.400
A little sugar on top.
00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:33.039
Uh but I'll have the bananas foster place.
00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:36.320
Oh man, we're gonna have it all.
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:38.159
Let's go to mayonnaise.
00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:42.480
We're going to New Orleans, Doug, you and me.
00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:45.280
Uh yeah, this interview's over.
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:46.960
This interview's over.
00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:48.559
Sorry, work.
00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:51.440
Uh, I'm not gonna be there in the next couple days.
00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:54.079
Uh uh.
00:34:56.000 --> 00:35:00.639
But your fruit when what was like your first blues band you were in?
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:14.719
Well, uh was the Lincoln Blues band with Brad Heiliger on drums and uh Sean Benjamin on guitar and me on guitar.
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:19.119
Wow, that's a little powerhouse for your first band.
00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:33.679
And uh we played uh we are the Sunday night house band out at uh Mama Zoe's on West O Street at the uh Elms Club.
00:35:36.719 --> 00:35:45.760
And we played out there sometimes Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, but always on a Sunday night.
00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:54.480
And you know, Mama Zoe was she was like my second mom.
00:35:56.400 --> 00:36:03.920
And that place could stay open till four o'clock in the morning and nobody said nothing.
00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:16.239
Because she used to be Paul Douglas's secretary, and she also was in with Merle Carnett, the sheriff at the time.
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:17.519
Oh yeah, yeah.
00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:22.480
So yeah.
00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:35.599
But she took care of kids down in Tea Town, and she didn't care black, white, whatever.
00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:44.320
And her and Miss Bertie would feed us, take care of us.
00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:48.639
In fact, Mama Zoe made me my first fried green tomato.
00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:49.440
Ooh.
00:36:50.480 --> 00:37:01.119
As I was growing tomatoes out by the house, and she came by and says, She says, Whose tomatoes are those?
00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:02.400
I said, I've been growing them.
00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:04.559
I says, but they ain't turning red yet.
00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:07.199
And I didn't know enough about gardening.
00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:10.400
And she says, Well, you gotta pick some green.
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:13.360
I says, What are you gonna do with a green tomato?
00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:16.480
She says, You're coming to my house.
00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:24.079
So I went over to the house and had my first fried green tomato and just fell in love.
00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:28.320
Zoe was always good to people, man.
00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:36.400
She just took care of us, always paid us when we played, and just was a sweetheart.
00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:39.280
How how old were you around this time?
00:37:41.920 --> 00:37:42.239
Ish.
00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:48.400
Sean was 17, 18.
00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:52.800
I was probably about 24, 25.
00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:57.519
I think there was about four or five years difference.
00:37:57.840 --> 00:37:58.559
Nice, yeah, yeah.
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:09.760
And uh actually one of the people that I learned more about guitar was from Dave True.
00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:16.000
And he was a drummer.
00:38:16.239 --> 00:38:17.440
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:22.079
And a fantastic drummer, just one of the best drummers ever.
00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:32.960
And he taught me more about guitar than anybody.
00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:36.320
And he couldn't play a note of guitar.
00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:48.800
He taught me how to dial in my last paw and how to set presets, so all you gotta do is flip a switch and you'll have this, that, or the other thing, you know.
00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:53.039
And it was amazing.
00:38:53.360 --> 00:39:00.960
Nice, you know, and I learned early on it's not what you play, it's what you don't play.
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:09.039
Which is starting to be a lost art, if you ask me.
00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:10.960
Yeah, I can see that.
00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:11.840
I can see that.
00:39:11.920 --> 00:39:14.559
I mean You know, listen to Albert King.
00:39:18.960 --> 00:39:20.320
Just start there.
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:25.679
That's the beauty.
00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:27.679
The beauty is the yeah.
00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:34.000
I always uh there I have a couple of things that drive me nuts lately.
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:39.519
Uh a drum solo where they lose the beat.
00:39:41.760 --> 00:39:45.039
I stopped moving and I'm standing there now.
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:47.280
Now you kind of lost me.
00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:51.039
Uh you you can't lose the beat, you know.
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:53.519
Yeah.
00:39:53.760 --> 00:40:00.400
Uh and then the other thing is is like guitar solos don't know how to wait.
00:40:01.119 --> 00:40:07.920
Like sometimes it goes straight into the everything, and there's no build-up.
00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:11.199
I want more buildup, you know.
00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:17.679
If you're gonna play 90 notes for a second, you better play three notes for the first minute.
00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:26.400
You need to watch, and one of the best shows for dynamics is what we're talking about.
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:28.880
Was Buddy Guy.
00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:57.199
He could take it down to a whisper, and the crowd would just be silent because they he made him listen to the sweet little stuff he was gonna, you know, and he'd build it, build it up to a crescendo, and he might wait, he might not do that for a couple of sets of 12 bars, but then he'd build it up to a crescendo and just bring the dynamics way up.
00:40:58.480 --> 00:41:02.400
And but he could do it without a whole lot of notes.
00:41:03.599 --> 00:41:12.400
But he knew when to play a lot of notes and when not to play a lot of notes, you know, and then he'd drop it again.
00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:13.519
Oh yeah.
00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:16.639
And just dead quiet.
00:41:18.159 --> 00:41:18.800
Beautiful.
00:41:18.960 --> 00:41:24.400
And then he'd start doop doop doop doop doop doop, you know.
00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:25.840
Oh, beautiful.
00:41:26.079 --> 00:41:30.480
You know, oh gosh damn, that was one of the best things I saw down at the zoo.
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:32.480
So wait, uh, let's get back.
00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:34.159
Uh I'm gonna try to get back.
00:41:34.320 --> 00:41:36.239
Blinkin' Blues Band, was that your first?
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:38.880
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:50.079
And then uh uh Well no, I actually uh before that I played in a band.
00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:56.880
We played one gig at the zoo, and it was the first gig I played.
00:41:57.039 --> 00:42:00.159
Billy Die was on guitar, I was on guitar.
00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:05.199
Uh Larry Beamer was on bass.
00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:12.639
And uh no, Dave Morris was on bass.
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:18.719
And I would like to say Hall of Nebraska Performing Arts Hall of Fan member Dave Morris.
00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:22.159
Yes, yes, that's the guy.
00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:25.280
And soon to be inducted is Billy Dye.
00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:26.239
Heck yeah.
00:42:26.480 --> 00:42:31.840
And uh wait, aren't you being inducted right now?
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:35.679
Uh they tried to induct me in the army, but they weren't successful.
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:36.880
Oh my god.
00:42:42.400 --> 00:42:43.599
Hey Amanda.
00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:47.119
Oh, you want me to come say hello?
00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:48.639
Come say hello.
00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:54.239
Here, you want to chair?
00:42:54.480 --> 00:42:55.360
No, no, no, no, no.
00:42:55.599 --> 00:42:56.880
She just wants to say hi.
00:42:57.119 --> 00:42:58.320
Hi, everyone.
00:42:58.800 --> 00:43:02.960
We're just talking, uh, we're at first we're one of his first bands.
00:43:03.199 --> 00:43:04.239
Oh, nice.
00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:07.280
Well, do you want to know something interesting?
00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:08.079
What's that?
00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:11.039
Chris Stapleton had to postpone.
00:43:11.280 --> 00:43:11.440
Yeah.
00:43:11.840 --> 00:43:13.519
And I've just been at the zoo bar.
00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:15.440
I've had the phones been ringing off the hook.
00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:16.880
I've had three couples come in.
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:22.880
They must have Googled live music at the zoo bar, and they're all calling to ask who's playing and if they can come.
00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:25.199
So I might need you to work after this.
00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:26.400
Oh my god.
00:43:26.880 --> 00:43:27.840
That's funny.
00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:28.800
No, I'm serious.
00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:30.320
Curtis Delgado is a good one.
00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:33.360
Well, no, of course I'll check it, baby.
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:36.800
He's a good player.
00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:39.280
He's a good player.
00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:40.719
Right, Curtis Delgado.
00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:46.719
That's uh legend, that's you know, for a zoo bar, that's uh They're lucky to get him.
00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:48.000
Heck yeah.
00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:49.039
You know.
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:51.039
Uh all right.
00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:57.840
So have you ever played in the band without amazing other people in the band, Doug?
00:43:57.920 --> 00:43:59.760
I'm just just quick, we just gotta get that out.
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:04.320
Out of the way because everybody you keep naming are like Hall of Fame members.
00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:16.960
Um Gordy Lint, who used to play here years ago, his wife was in that band too.
00:44:18.079 --> 00:44:25.280
And uh we did uh an old song called Don't Deceive Me.
00:44:26.559 --> 00:44:38.719
And I heard it by Bonnie, or uh not by Bonnie Raitt, but uh by uh Bonnie Bramblett.
00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:39.840
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:41.519
That's one of the best.
00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:48.239
You swear you're in a Southern Baptist church, you know, in the heart of town.
00:44:48.559 --> 00:44:51.679
And oh, she sang that so good.
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:53.440
And we played that song.
00:44:53.920 --> 00:44:55.360
I think I've got it on a cassette.
00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:57.440
Speaking of underrated people.
00:44:57.679 --> 00:44:58.239
Oh yeah.
00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:01.440
I didn't she write Superstar 2, I think maybe.
00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:02.079
I don't know.
00:45:03.280 --> 00:45:04.639
Don't quote me on that one.
00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:07.840
But we'll we'll look, well, you should look it up.
00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:23.039
But uh I remember doing that song, and I can't remember any of the other stuff we did, but uh that was the first time I played the zoo with the band, and I was pretty nervous.
00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:36.239
But I don't know why I was because the third gig I ever played was in front of about eight or ten thousand people during the Vietnam War.
00:45:36.320 --> 00:45:42.320
There was a rally out here after they had taken over the military building.
00:45:42.559 --> 00:45:44.239
Oh yeah, I heard yes.
00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:49.119
And I played uh I played a couple of songs for that.
00:45:53.199 --> 00:45:56.239
But you know So that was kind of scary too.
00:45:56.559 --> 00:46:00.159
Uh I still get nervous on the stage at the zoo bar.
00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:07.039
Yeah, but you know, I don't know.
00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:12.960
When you get done, feels good.
00:46:13.199 --> 00:46:13.840
Feels good.
00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:16.800
I mean you don't age on the stage.
00:46:18.719 --> 00:46:20.559
You don't age on stage.
00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:22.400
That should be a shirt right there.
00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:25.440
Yeah, and and sometimes thereafter.
00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:26.800
Heck yeah.
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:34.320
So the uh Lincoln Blue, what was after Lincoln Blues band?
00:46:36.320 --> 00:46:38.079
Oh gosh.
00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:42.960
Uh I played in a couple of bands.
00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:58.000
Uh one was called Tombstone, and that was with Otto Spaldi, who used to play with Charlie Burton and Dave Roble and me and Sean.
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:03.039
And gosh.
00:47:03.679 --> 00:47:08.559
Uh we played in a couple of bands, and there was another name.
00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:11.119
I can't think of the other name for the band.
00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:45.280
We also played in a band that one time, uh, and it was Dave Roble and uh and uh me, Charlie Johnson, Walt Warrenholt, those were our two sax players, uh Dave Roble, uh Otto, Sean, you know, and we played up in Omaha at the Howard Street.
00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:49.840
And we played here at the zoo, too.
00:47:50.639 --> 00:48:00.159
Now I remember driving up to the Howard Street, we we run into rain that came down so damn hard that we had to pull over on the side of the road.
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:04.719
We went up highway six because we wanted to have a beer.
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:13.360
And we pulled over the side of the road, and I said, man, this is funny.
00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:20.800
And it finally started to let up, you know, and it was really noisy.
00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:29.360
And we didn't get a half mile, quarter mile down the road, saw where the tornado went across the road.
00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:32.000
Oh no! It would have caught us.
00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:33.599
Oh wow.
00:48:33.920 --> 00:48:36.719
So that was before we played.
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:38.159
Oh wow.
00:48:41.039 --> 00:48:41.920
Crazy.
00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:43.840
Crazy.
00:48:48.239 --> 00:48:52.719
So then how far are we from the hard member?
00:48:54.159 --> 00:48:55.599
Oh gosh.
00:48:59.039 --> 00:48:59.760
I don't know.
00:48:59.920 --> 00:49:12.159
I played with Sid, acoustic guitar, and piano, and we played at Howard Street and opened up for John Lee Hooker.
00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:13.679
Oh, wow, yeah.
00:49:13.840 --> 00:49:20.320
And I was expecting a six-foot-tall guy, and he was shorter than me, you know.
00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:25.760
And I've been literally rock stars in short.
00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:33.280
He came and put his hand on my shoulder and says, he says, you guys, he says, you guys sounded good.
00:49:33.519 --> 00:49:35.840
He says, remind me of the old days.
00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:37.360
Oh, wow.
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:39.039
There's a compliment for you.
00:49:39.519 --> 00:49:39.760
Yeah.
00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:44.320
I've had some really great moments with people.
00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:55.599
Uh I've been fortunate enough to get to play with a lot of these great old blues guys that know what a Mississippi Drag is.
00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:56.079
Yeah.
00:49:56.320 --> 00:49:58.400
Ain't playing no rock music.
00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:04.960
Are there any rock bands you like?
00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:19.039
Um I think Eric Clapton would have been better staying with rock music because he is a really good guitar player, you know.
00:50:19.599 --> 00:50:23.360
But it uh I got thoughts on Eric Clapton.
00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:25.360
We shouldn't even go there.
00:50:25.599 --> 00:50:26.320
What's that?
00:50:26.480 --> 00:50:32.400
I I think Eric Clapton with a band is good.
00:50:33.679 --> 00:50:35.760
Cream, yard bird.
00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:37.920
I I listened to a lot of cream.
00:50:38.159 --> 00:50:40.480
That was, you know, and yeah.
00:50:40.880 --> 00:50:42.320
All that stuff, great.
00:50:42.559 --> 00:50:44.480
Solo, not so much.
00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:53.840
The birds were they were a really great band because they did a lot of Dylan songs at first.
00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:55.679
And they did them really well.
00:50:56.800 --> 00:51:00.639
And uh very underrated band, I believe.
00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:11.679
Yeah, they were they were uh they had their uh they changed to in a tasteful way throughout their career.
00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:13.280
Yeah, yeah.
00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:18.079
They didn't stay stagnant, they, you know, yeah, but always good.
00:51:18.400 --> 00:51:20.800
They were, yeah, they were always good.
00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:25.119
I saw them uh at the Pershing.
00:51:26.320 --> 00:51:32.639
And I also saw on the same bill the Flying Burrito Brothers, which was some of the birds.
00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:33.679
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:36.320
And then they all played together at the end.
00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:37.519
Wow.
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:39.280
And that was a good show.
00:51:40.800 --> 00:51:42.320
I'm jealous.
00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:46.480
Um, I saw a lot of great shows at the Persian.
00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:52.159
Um James Brown in 1964 with the Fabulous Flames.
00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:54.800
The Fabulous Flames, too.
00:51:55.519 --> 00:52:03.679
And I was, I was only, and I met two of my best friends still to this day.
00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:38.639
Uh a friend of mine who was a black guy that used to come up to Columbus, who was a basketball player, a friend of a basketball player, and we would sit around and play solo records all the time, you know, and he turned me on to people like Major Lance, you know, uh, and he got us tickets to James Brown, who came down here, and I met the Robinson brothers, Johnny Robinson and and his brother, and there's still some of my best friends.
00:52:39.599 --> 00:52:45.840
And we were about the only white guys, there was three of us.
00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:48.239
We were on the left side of the stage.
00:52:48.559 --> 00:52:54.320
The only other white people I saw was about three other white guys who were on the right-hand side of the stage.
00:52:55.360 --> 00:52:59.440
And Larry Beamer says, Well, that was me.
00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:05.679
I mean, who to, you know, we never we didn't meet until years later.
00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:07.199
That's awesome.
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:08.159
You know.
00:53:09.039 --> 00:53:10.559
That's awesome.
00:53:11.360 --> 00:53:19.920
All right, speaking of that, uh, we gotta take one more break, and then we'll be right back, and then we need to get into some hardware stuff.
00:53:20.239 --> 00:53:20.559
Okay.
00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:22.880
All right, we're back.
00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:23.920
Action.
00:53:24.400 --> 00:53:24.719
Yeah.
00:53:26.960 --> 00:53:29.039
Gameplay, everybody.
00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:30.000
Jay H.
00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:31.360
All right.
00:53:32.639 --> 00:53:34.239
Back to work, everyone.
00:53:34.719 --> 00:53:39.760
Oh you're uh you're uh you're a man among men.
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:40.800
Yes, right.
00:53:44.079 --> 00:53:45.360
I like that guy.
00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:47.280
Yeah, he's great.
00:53:47.679 --> 00:53:56.159
Um, all right, so probably the biggest band you've ever been in, probably the hard murmurs are gonna say, or what do you think?
00:53:56.800 --> 00:54:22.960
Well, yeah, I mean we we played everywhere from you know, Chicago, Minneapolis, Madison, Wisconsin, Omaha all the time, Lincoln all over Nebraska, Wichita, Topeka, Kansas City a lot, Des Moines, you know, name it.
00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:28.239
So Lewis, Iowa.
00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:32.239
The famous Lewis, Iowa show.
00:54:32.400 --> 00:54:33.039
Yes.
00:54:33.519 --> 00:54:36.880
Um that'd be funny.
00:54:37.039 --> 00:54:47.519
You should if man, if there was a recording of that show, that would be the one to put out there's no like the show we played with nobody here, you know?
00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:49.440
Yeah, yeah.
00:54:51.199 --> 00:54:55.360
Um who was all in the heart mummers?
00:54:56.639 --> 00:55:02.400
Well, a lot of people were in the heart mummer.
00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:03.119
All right, all right.
00:55:03.360 --> 00:55:16.800
So the first band, uh, it was me, John McDowell, Billy Dye on guitars, Larry Beamer on bass, and Brad Heiliger on drums.
00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:18.639
Three guitar attack.
00:55:18.880 --> 00:55:19.519
Yeah.
00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:30.639
And uh Sean showed up.
00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:51.920
We uh but we weren't really a permanent type of band, we just uh but uh anyway, uh Brad Heiliger, Sean, me, and Larry, and that's how we started.
00:55:52.719 --> 00:56:03.599
And uh later on we got uh Sid, he played piano with us and sang.
00:56:04.960 --> 00:56:20.639
And we didn't really uh uh at that time we didn't have a drummer anymore, so Sid would play drums.
00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:28.639
And when we couldn't find them, but we used to use Preston Love's drummer Hank.
00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:35.199
Uh God, I can't remember his last name right now, but he would come down.
00:56:35.440 --> 00:56:38.400
He'd played with Preston Love for many, many years.
00:56:38.639 --> 00:56:39.920
Great guy.
00:56:41.519 --> 00:56:52.719
And uh he would fill in, and then when we'd play Chicago, Casey Jones out of Albert Collins band would fill in for us.
00:56:53.440 --> 00:57:14.719
So uh after Brad left the band, we played with uh Andy Hall's brother, Mike, and he played with us a while, uh, maybe a year or so, and then he had health issues, so he had to quit.
00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:38.960
And so that's when Hank would come in and go, and anybody else we could get in there, so uh, but uh we uh what was his what's the blind guy's uh from Chicago or from Milwaukee?
00:57:39.119 --> 00:57:40.239
Well, I don't know.
00:57:40.639 --> 00:57:45.199
Brian, he played here at the zoo.
00:57:47.679 --> 00:57:50.639
Oh, I can't think of his name off the top of my head.
00:57:50.800 --> 00:58:14.079
But anyway, he came in and we played the Friday afternoon, and Mark Wilson and uh Madison Slim came down in the afternoon when we played and sat in with us, and we hired him immediately.
00:58:16.159 --> 00:58:21.760
Uh, because we heard what a great drummer he was, man.
00:58:22.159 --> 00:58:30.159
And we he says, yeah, but if you hire me, you gotta hire the ARP player too.
00:58:30.320 --> 00:58:31.599
I said, gladly.
00:58:33.920 --> 00:58:52.719
So that was the that was the that was the real solid, and we played for about uh in that band for probably three or four years together and recorded the first record down at the zoo here with him.
00:58:53.679 --> 00:58:58.559
So speaking of harp players, uh Honey Boy Turner has been playing with Wags lately.
00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:03.280
The Wags got himself a smoking band right now.
00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:05.599
Uh yes, he does.
00:59:05.840 --> 00:59:06.800
Speaking of roebo.
00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:07.199
Yep.
00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:15.679
Roble who I I I believe would hold the world the record at the zoo bar for appearance on the stage most times.
00:59:15.920 --> 00:59:16.559
Yep.
00:59:17.599 --> 00:59:29.199
Uh uh you know, Dave Morris is right there, you know, and I'm not too far back.
00:59:30.400 --> 00:59:35.519
I played here toward the end of the first year, I think.
00:59:38.320 --> 00:59:41.840
But uh I don't know, it's more than a week ago.
00:59:41.920 --> 00:59:42.960
I can't remember that far.
00:59:43.280 --> 00:59:43.760
Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:59:43.840 --> 00:59:45.360
Uh the Bruce Museum, yeah.
00:59:46.320 --> 00:59:47.360
Wait, I don't remember.
00:59:47.440 --> 00:59:48.880
It was like, I don't know now.
00:59:49.119 --> 00:59:52.480
God, all it all blurs together for me.
00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:56.320
Uh I mean, what a blessed place for me to have a job.
00:59:56.400 --> 01:00:01.119
I mean, I get to see music every time I work there, and I my heart builds up.
01:00:01.280 --> 01:00:13.199
You know, I I mean, even if it's uh uh not really in my wheelhouse kind of band, I still get my live music fixed and it feels good.
01:00:13.760 --> 01:00:17.199
All right, I want to know about the TV dinner blues.
01:00:17.920 --> 01:00:19.039
Oh, okay.
01:00:19.840 --> 01:00:21.760
I want one of those records too.
01:00:21.840 --> 01:00:24.000
If anybody finds one, an extra one later.
01:00:24.400 --> 01:00:26.480
Well, you talk to Jim Ludwig.
01:00:28.159 --> 01:00:36.159
Because I introduced him to my kids after we got done playing the 50th anniversary down there.
01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:48.639
And uh they happened to mention, you know, and I says, this Jim Ludwig, he produced our record.
01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:52.079
Well, I wish we could get a record.
01:00:53.280 --> 01:01:02.320
And about a month or two later, I walk up to my back door of my house, and there's three of them sealed.
01:01:02.559 --> 01:01:07.440
Oh he says, I had to take a trip up to the attic.
01:01:07.760 --> 01:01:09.760
Oh, wow, that's cool.
01:01:10.159 --> 01:01:11.679
Yeah, he's a great guy.
01:01:12.480 --> 01:01:14.800
Uh TV Dinner Blue's Magic Slim.
01:01:15.199 --> 01:01:15.840
Yeah.
01:01:16.239 --> 01:01:20.239
Uh I'd written that and I'd played it a few times.
01:01:21.599 --> 01:01:29.119
And uh I don't know, I think I might have played it for Slim or, you know.
01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:39.760
Uh but anyway, uh he was playing down here when they were recording that album.
01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:46.079
And he between songs, he says, What should I do next, Doug?
01:01:46.480 --> 01:01:49.280
And I says, TV dinner blues.
01:01:49.840 --> 01:01:51.119
And he did it.
01:01:52.559 --> 01:02:00.960
But he was a guy that could listen to a song, have all the words in his head, and play it the next night.
01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:03.760
I've had this conversation before.
01:02:03.920 --> 01:02:08.400
I'm like, how many songs did that guy, the lyrics did that guy know?
01:02:08.559 --> 01:02:09.199
It was amazing.
01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:16.000
I'm not sure if they're all 100% correct, but they seem perfect.
01:02:16.320 --> 01:02:22.400
He, you know, if they weren't correct, he made them right, he made them his own.
01:02:23.280 --> 01:02:23.920
You know.
01:02:25.519 --> 01:02:32.559
I remember when he did don't tug on Superman's Cape, don't piss into the wind.
01:02:36.239 --> 01:02:39.840
And if you know what's good for you, you don't mess around with Slim.
01:02:40.320 --> 01:02:41.519
Oh yeah.
01:02:45.199 --> 01:02:47.199
Oh, beautiful.
01:02:47.519 --> 01:02:54.320
So uh uh he win he gets some awards or nominations for that song?
01:02:54.800 --> 01:02:58.159
Yeah, we got nominated for a Grammy.
01:02:59.119 --> 01:03:00.000
God damn.
01:03:00.320 --> 01:03:02.719
And we got beat up by BB King.
01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:05.440
That BB King guy.
01:03:06.559 --> 01:03:08.000
He got lucky.
01:03:11.119 --> 01:03:12.400
I got to meet BB.
01:03:12.559 --> 01:03:13.679
I got to shake his head.
01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:15.119
Oh, that's pretty cool.
01:03:15.360 --> 01:03:17.519
In fact, I got a good story about that.
01:03:17.760 --> 01:03:27.679
We went up there in about 68, and he played about 30 at the names up in Omaha at King Solomon's mine.
01:03:28.159 --> 01:03:29.840
And you know little Bonnie?
01:03:30.079 --> 01:03:31.119
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:03:31.360 --> 01:03:33.119
Her aunt and uncle owned the joint.
01:03:33.280 --> 01:03:33.679
Oh, wow.
01:03:33.840 --> 01:03:44.800
And that's where I first saw her because there was a little 12-year-old gal standing behind the door, and it was her aunt or her mom hanging around right next to her.
01:03:45.039 --> 01:03:51.760
But I thought it was so cool that they're bringing their kid down to watch history.
01:03:52.719 --> 01:03:53.360
To me.
01:03:53.679 --> 01:03:54.320
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:03:54.559 --> 01:04:00.639
I mean, in anyways, BB was late.
01:04:01.280 --> 01:04:05.519
I mean, over two hours late because his plane was late.
01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:06.639
Oh man.
01:04:07.039 --> 01:04:09.199
The instruments didn't get there.
01:04:10.239 --> 01:04:14.480
The band was all there off in the side room, you could see him.
01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:25.360
And me and Gordy and his wife and Ron Levis, the the piano player, were the only white people there.
01:04:25.519 --> 01:04:26.159
Yeah.
01:04:26.480 --> 01:04:30.079
And after two hours, people were getting a little nervous.
01:04:30.719 --> 01:04:38.000
You know, I wasn't worried about nothing, but I think Gordy was gripping the table a little bit.
01:04:38.400 --> 01:04:46.800
But anyways, BB shows up and the equipment shows up.
01:04:47.039 --> 01:04:58.239
And I see BB backstage or on the stage, you know, kind of, and I walk back there and got to shake his hand and talk to him for about five minutes.
01:04:59.840 --> 01:05:02.639
And I went and sat back down.
01:05:03.199 --> 01:05:04.800
The band gets up.
01:05:05.920 --> 01:05:08.880
You know, about ten minutes later, they're ready to play.
01:05:09.039 --> 01:05:10.559
They're all tuned up.
01:05:11.679 --> 01:05:24.880
And they do this nice little jump number, and BB quiets the band down and tells a story about what happened.
01:05:27.119 --> 01:05:34.079
And this 375-pound black woman stands up in the back.
01:05:34.880 --> 01:05:37.840
Just how ain't you gonna play, baby?
01:05:39.039 --> 01:05:41.920
And he got this scowl on his face.
01:05:42.880 --> 01:05:48.559
And I mean, when I met him, he's the most gentle, greatest person in the world.
01:05:48.639 --> 01:05:51.920
He'd give anybody a, you know, his time.
01:05:53.679 --> 01:05:59.519
And he got this look like I'm gonna rip you to pieces, you know.
01:06:00.719 --> 01:06:05.760
And he just said, you be ready to go home.
01:06:06.639 --> 01:06:12.800
And they went on two hours late, and they went on it was almost 11 o'clock.
01:06:15.199 --> 01:06:20.239
And it got to be about quarter to four.
01:06:21.599 --> 01:06:24.559
The band had not taken a break.
01:06:25.039 --> 01:06:30.320
They went from one song to the next to the next to the next and not a break.
01:06:30.559 --> 01:06:31.679
Oh wow.
01:06:32.480 --> 01:06:36.719
BB gave everything and a hundred percent more.
01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:38.960
It was the greatest show in the world.
01:06:39.119 --> 01:06:42.480
It made Cook County jail to shame.
01:06:44.239 --> 01:06:54.239
And uh anyways, we hear chairs in the back in between the song.
01:06:55.599 --> 01:07:03.360
And there's about three or four guys helping this bringing the big lady out the door.
01:07:04.960 --> 01:07:09.519
And he BB gets on the mic and says, Did you enjoy yourself, man?
01:07:11.760 --> 01:07:15.519
And all and this cracked the place up.
01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:24.960
Oh we left about 15 minutes later and the band was still playing.
01:07:25.119 --> 01:07:26.239
Oh my god.
01:07:27.440 --> 01:07:35.360
But we had a long drive back to back to Lincoln that night, but it kept us up.
01:07:36.559 --> 01:07:37.920
God, it was good.
01:07:38.800 --> 01:07:39.840
Oh man.
01:07:41.119 --> 01:07:45.280
Alright, Doug, we're gonna have to tell we're gonna have to do this again.
01:07:45.599 --> 01:07:46.239
Sure.
01:07:46.880 --> 01:07:50.719
Uh but I'm gonna have a couple questions for you.
01:07:51.519 --> 01:07:54.079
I've been trying to, you know, get some standards.
01:07:54.559 --> 01:07:55.840
Don't tell me what they are.
01:07:56.000 --> 01:07:58.159
No, I'm just gonna tell you right now.
01:07:58.400 --> 01:07:59.760
No, you don't need to.
01:07:59.920 --> 01:08:01.280
No, here we go.
01:08:02.559 --> 01:08:06.719
Uh so I was what planet is this?
01:08:07.760 --> 01:08:08.960
I'm working on it.
01:08:09.280 --> 01:08:10.800
I'm working on it.
01:08:11.440 --> 01:08:15.119
Um top five.
01:08:15.440 --> 01:08:17.199
No, you know, you don't need to have five.
01:08:17.359 --> 01:08:20.560
You got three, you could have eight, whatever you want.
01:08:21.119 --> 01:08:24.640
Local bands from Lincoln, you know, Nebraska.
01:08:24.800 --> 01:08:27.680
From Nebraska that you ever saw.
01:08:32.239 --> 01:08:33.199
Gosh.
01:08:41.039 --> 01:08:42.800
How far back do you want to go?
01:08:43.279 --> 01:08:45.760
You know, it doesn't matter.
01:08:46.560 --> 01:08:48.399
Whatever you say.
01:08:50.640 --> 01:08:51.840
Oh gosh.
01:08:55.439 --> 01:09:00.159
Well, they were a really great cover band out of Columbus.
01:09:02.239 --> 01:09:11.520
And I learned a lot from, and I got to play with him years later.
01:09:11.840 --> 01:09:18.960
But the Goynes brothers, Keith and Danny Goins, played in a band from Columbus called The Echoes.
01:09:19.199 --> 01:09:20.239
The Echoes.
01:09:20.960 --> 01:09:22.560
And they were really good.
01:09:22.720 --> 01:09:25.760
And they went on and played with the Checkmates.
01:09:27.039 --> 01:09:30.800
And I think Mike Samrad's dad was in the Checkmates.
01:09:31.199 --> 01:09:32.000
Oh, Pinky?
01:09:32.560 --> 01:09:39.920
I think he was, or oh no, he was in Gosh.
01:09:40.239 --> 01:09:42.800
Billy Childs and Liz.
01:09:45.359 --> 01:09:46.560
Oh, Black Singer.
01:09:46.800 --> 01:09:48.960
George Bryan played the band.
01:09:51.119 --> 01:09:57.439
Uh Billy uh Childs played drums.
01:09:59.600 --> 01:10:02.079
God, I can't think of the name of the band.
01:10:02.560 --> 01:10:06.159
But they were they were a local band.
01:10:06.800 --> 01:10:11.439
And uh George played with Troop.
01:10:13.760 --> 01:10:18.319
And it's one of the best slide players I've ever heard in my life.
01:10:18.880 --> 01:10:21.359
And I thought I used heavy strings.
01:10:23.600 --> 01:10:25.439
But he plays slide.
01:10:25.680 --> 01:10:26.560
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:10:26.880 --> 01:10:33.920
You know, but uh he taught me a lot of stuff on guitar.
01:10:35.279 --> 01:10:42.880
And when they lived out in Colorado, I'd drive out to see Troop, and George would always spend some time with me.
01:10:43.439 --> 01:10:45.039
Teach me a lick or two.
01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:50.560
Now Troop he That was the extent of my my lessons.
01:10:51.119 --> 01:10:52.960
I mean I never had a lesson.
01:10:53.199 --> 01:10:55.680
Just soak up whatever you can get, right?
01:10:55.920 --> 01:10:58.720
Well, I don't recommend it.
01:10:58.880 --> 01:11:01.760
I recommend getting a teacher.
01:11:01.840 --> 01:11:03.760
It wouldn't take you so fucking long.
01:11:04.239 --> 01:11:08.880
But you know, it's a learning process all your life.
01:11:09.279 --> 01:11:11.439
You always keep learning stuff.
01:11:11.680 --> 01:11:13.119
Hopefully you do.
01:11:15.279 --> 01:11:16.239
Alright.
01:11:16.640 --> 01:11:19.600
Uh we get down to the last question.
01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:23.760
There's no right answer, no wrong answer, nothing like that.
01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:25.600
Oh good, I didn't study.
01:11:26.399 --> 01:11:34.479
You can uh you can uh name more than one thing, you know, or one thing, but here it is.
01:11:35.279 --> 01:11:37.439
Someone's coming to Nebraska.
01:11:38.720 --> 01:11:40.479
Anywhere in the state.
01:11:41.359 --> 01:11:42.960
They want to see Nebraska.
01:11:43.039 --> 01:11:45.279
What are the coolest things in Nebraska?
01:11:45.520 --> 01:11:46.880
Where are you sending them?
01:11:56.800 --> 01:11:58.079
That depends.
01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:07.680
How do I say this?
01:12:12.720 --> 01:12:19.119
To appreciate Nebraska or anything on the face of this earth.
01:12:21.520 --> 01:12:23.119
Learn to listen.
01:12:27.600 --> 01:12:34.880
Like when I go out and went hunt hunting rocks with Grandpa Shangru, who was Lakota.
01:12:36.159 --> 01:12:40.319
He always took me along because he says, you don't talk.
01:12:42.560 --> 01:12:43.520
You listen.
01:12:44.319 --> 01:12:48.720
That rock came up from the dirt to meet you.
01:12:49.680 --> 01:12:52.319
You gotta listen to them talking to you.
01:12:56.479 --> 01:13:01.279
And I went out there and found a scraper.
01:13:01.920 --> 01:13:02.800
Oh wow.
01:13:06.640 --> 01:13:10.640
And Grandpa Shay grew nice.
01:13:11.199 --> 01:13:17.119
He he says You already know.
01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:19.680
You already know how it is.
01:13:21.279 --> 01:13:24.720
He let me lead a sweat.
01:13:24.960 --> 01:13:25.680
Oh really?
01:13:28.479 --> 01:13:34.720
And that was a very powerful time in my life.
01:13:36.720 --> 01:13:41.600
And he, at the last minute, and I'd only been to a sweat lodge once.
01:13:41.920 --> 01:13:44.479
So I kinda knew the procedure.
01:13:47.279 --> 01:13:54.239
And we went in and came around.
01:13:58.079 --> 01:14:03.359
And to have a sweat you have to have a song.
01:14:03.760 --> 01:14:04.960
I had no song.
01:14:06.479 --> 01:14:08.000
But one came to me.
01:14:09.199 --> 01:14:13.279
There's no uh no words, it's just a little melody thing.
01:14:16.159 --> 01:14:30.159
And I started to go into it's actually a history of the world lesson, is how a sweat begins.
01:14:30.640 --> 01:14:33.680
You have these glowing rocks, this was the earth.
01:14:35.680 --> 01:14:45.520
You know, and you learn that everything, whether it seems to be or not, like the stones, they're just as alive as you or me.
01:14:45.920 --> 01:14:47.520
It's all spiritual.
01:14:48.640 --> 01:15:01.199
And so I would say a prayer, and all of a sudden the rain came, and the thunder would roll.
01:15:04.159 --> 01:15:06.159
And I'd say another prayer.
01:15:07.600 --> 01:15:11.039
And I'd stop, and the thunder would roll.
01:15:12.960 --> 01:15:22.159
Every time, and sometimes I'd do it short, sometimes long, and every time, the thunder would roll.
01:15:23.760 --> 01:15:35.119
When we got done with the sweat, we came out and looked off to the west, and the clouds were formed, and the sun was shining through like an eyeball.
01:15:35.680 --> 01:15:37.760
Looked like a big eyeball.
01:15:40.880 --> 01:15:45.439
And Grandpa Shane Grew says, I thought you didn't know what to do.
01:15:47.439 --> 01:15:49.279
That was a great honor.
01:15:49.840 --> 01:16:00.000
But the other time, the other time for me was the first week that I took over after Daddy Rabbit.
01:16:00.159 --> 01:16:03.920
He was Cook County Sheriff, so he couldn't come back that week.
01:16:04.159 --> 01:16:08.399
So Slim calls me up, and I hadn't played for six months.
01:16:09.199 --> 01:16:13.279
So he called me up and says, Yeah, yeah, I'll be there.
01:16:13.920 --> 01:16:15.119
So showed up.
01:16:15.439 --> 01:16:19.920
We played the six nights, got done on Saturday.
01:16:23.119 --> 01:16:24.319
You come with me.
01:16:24.479 --> 01:16:38.319
And we walk through the bar out the front door, and Slim sits on one of the stools, and he pays me, and he pays me an extra twenty bucks.
01:16:38.960 --> 01:16:42.319
He says, Doug, you did just fine this weekend.
01:16:42.960 --> 01:16:49.439
He says, I'm gonna make you an honorary teardrop and you be the only one.
01:16:52.560 --> 01:16:55.680
And at that time, Nick walks out the door.
01:16:57.199 --> 01:17:05.439
Nick, Nick, I just made Doug a Holly, I just made a Hollywood an honorary teardrop.
01:17:06.479 --> 01:17:09.279
And Nick says, thought he already was.
01:17:09.600 --> 01:17:11.760
Oh, beautiful.
01:17:12.159 --> 01:17:14.960
You know, I miss those guys so much.
01:17:15.840 --> 01:17:16.159
Beautiful.
01:17:16.239 --> 01:17:17.840
By the way, you do a good slim.
01:17:19.439 --> 01:17:20.720
I can hear him.
01:17:20.960 --> 01:17:23.439
Uh I thank you so much, Doug.
01:17:23.600 --> 01:17:25.359
This has been amazing.
01:17:25.520 --> 01:17:26.880
We're gonna have to talk again.
01:17:27.119 --> 01:17:27.680
Anytime.
01:17:28.159 --> 01:17:29.439
Well talk again.
01:17:29.600 --> 01:17:32.000
Uh uh, you should just come out to the house.
01:17:32.239 --> 01:17:32.960
Heck yeah.
01:17:33.119 --> 01:17:37.840
We should go to the uh the Denton uh Historical Museum, too.
01:17:38.880 --> 01:17:40.319
I'd love to learn about that.
01:17:41.680 --> 01:17:45.680
And go up to the third floor of the library before it moves.
01:17:45.840 --> 01:17:46.640
Oh, okay.
01:17:46.880 --> 01:17:47.760
Right on.
01:17:48.079 --> 01:17:48.479
All right.
01:17:48.640 --> 01:17:55.039
Um, I gotta get up there too because I left a picture of Louis Armstrong.
01:17:55.199 --> 01:17:55.760
Oh, God.
01:17:56.000 --> 01:18:04.399
That was uh taken by a jazz photographer that was a friend of my uncle's, uh, Jack Bradley.
01:18:05.199 --> 01:18:09.520
And that's all he did was photograph jazz people in New York.
01:18:10.079 --> 01:18:10.640
Oh, dude.
01:18:10.960 --> 01:18:15.359
And you don't see his face, but you know exactly who it is.
01:18:15.840 --> 01:18:18.159
He's standing with his back towards you.
01:18:18.319 --> 01:18:19.760
The camera's back here.
01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:23.840
He's holding a trumpet, doesn't have a stitch of clothes on.
01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:26.800
The door's part way open to the dressing room.
01:18:27.039 --> 01:18:27.920
Oh man.
01:18:31.520 --> 01:18:32.079
All right.
01:18:32.239 --> 01:18:33.840
Thanks everybody for listening.
01:18:33.920 --> 01:18:34.720
I love you all.
01:18:34.960 --> 01:18:42.079
Tell your friends, tell your neighbors, tell everybody, join in the uh Flagger Dave Loves Nebraska podcast.
01:18:42.560 --> 01:18:48.159
Uh and all I can say is uh be excellent each other and party on, kids.