Two Missing Keys Every End-Time Church Must Have

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The church was meant to be a reflection of the kingdom of heaven on earth, filled with God's presence, power, and glory.
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So, why isn't this our reality?
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Could something be holding the church back?
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Well, stay with us because today we discover two missing keys required for the church to really become like the kingdom of heaven on earth.
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Welcome back to th er 3Shekinah Today Podcast.
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We're your hosts, Darrel and Cindy deVille.
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Well, welcome, all you glorious, victorious people in Christ.
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Amen.
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That's what we want to declare over the church and the body of Christ.
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Not what we're seeing at the moment, but what we're believing and seeing through the eyes of God, where he wants to take us.
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That's right.
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He sure does, for sure.
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All right.
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Well, if you joined us for our previous episode, we got to talk about the glorious journey of the bride, an ancient pathway that leads you to the glorious life that Christ has waiting for you, your divine destiny.
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Amen.
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So go back and listen to that and watch that if you haven't seen that yet.
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That's right.
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And one thing we've been saying is that, you know, there's been much talk about living your best life now.
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But it is amazing when you look at this.
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God is wanting to take the church to a whole new level.
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Yes.
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And that best life now is really the glorious life that we can only find in Christ Jesus.
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That's right.
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And that's what we covered last time.
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Now we're beginning part three of our book, Rise of the Glorious Church, that we've been exploring and going through.
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And part three covers how to rise up glorious on the corporate level as the body of Christ.
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Amen.
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And we realize, as we shared in the last podcast, it has to begin first within each of us individually and then corporately.
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That's right.
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It's first, it's a personal level journey, which we covered last time.
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Now, how does that look in a corporate level journey to rise up glorious?
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That's right.
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Amen.
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If you have the book, you'll see that in part three, we begin with a preface one and a preface two.
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The first preface says, Not just a people, a place, heavenly hubs.
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What does that mean?
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I love that.
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Because the scripture tells us, for you are the temple of the living God, as God has said.
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And in 2 Corinthians 6 16, it says, I will dwell in them and walk among them.
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I will be their God and they shall be my people.
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I absolutely love that.
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My heart just so moved by that scripture.
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Imagine God walking among us in our churches when we gather an assembly together.
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God literally walking among us.
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That's right.
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Because he wants to touch every life.
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He wants to speak to everyone.
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And that's what he wants to do.
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And we have to create that atmosphere.
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That's right.
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And if you see that scripture, it talks about I want to dwell in them, that's the personal level.
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And I want to walk among them.
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That's the corporate level.
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Yes.
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As a body, as a family, right?
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That's right.
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The scriptures talk about that we're built together into a holy temple as living stones to become a dwelling place for God.
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That we're to be filled with the fullness of God in Ephesians 3.19.
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And they're growing together in the fullness and maturity of Christ in Ephesians 4.13.
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Amen.
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So we see the glorious church is both a people and a place.
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A people conform to the image of Christ and a place that reflects his glorious kingdom on earth.
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See, God's people are his ultimate temple, yet throughout scripture, we see God's desire for a central dwelling place, right?
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Yes.
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Where his family gathers and his presence and his glory and his power are revealed.
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We see this from the tabernacle of Moses to Mount Zion to the New Jerusalem talked about in the book of Revelation.
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God has always desired to dwell in his people and walk among his people.
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I love that.
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I could just stop right there and just yes, thank you, Lord.
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Scripture shows us really from beginning to end that God loves family and he loves it when his family comes together.
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He has always wanted to dwell in us and walk among us.
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And you know, one thing I think about is right now, after COVID, all the things that happened, so many people have isolated themselves.
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They're no longer gathering together.
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And when you think about that, if we're going to be a healthy church, a glorious, victorious church, you can't do that.
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You know, what if I cut off my hand, a part of my body, and I set it aside, no longer is it getting the blood flow, no longer is it getting the nutrients it needs.
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It's going to dry up and die in a short time.
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And so, any of you listening to this and watching this, we want to encourage you to go to church, find that place where God wants you, that gathering, and be a part of that.
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Because God wants you to thrive, not just survive and barely get by.
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That's right.
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And so family is so important to him.
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And when we come together as family, it delights the heart of the Father.
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And that is where you are going to flourish.
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Even in your old age, God, as I've said, he wants you evergreen, he wants you to go long and go strong.
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That's right.
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Amen.
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Amen.
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See, Hebrews 12, 22 to 24 links Mount Zion, the heavenly Jerusalem, and the church all together as one glorious reality.
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So we see Mount Zion is like a picture of the glorious church dwelling where heaven touches earth.
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And that's where we see that really God's glory shines both on a personal level through his people and corporately through what we call a glorious kingdom of heaven hubs.
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Amen.
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Yes, and then we start covering what that looks like in our next episode.
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So, glorious kingdom of heaven hubs.
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What does that mean?
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We believe God is going to be raising up local churches that become kingdom of heaven like hubs, places like the kingdom of heaven like realms and culture is established on the earth.
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Amen.
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Imagine what that would look like.
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See, we envision it like this glorious local churches being led by the fivefold ministry leaders who are fully surrendered to God to carry God's heavenly blueprints to become like an extension of the kingdom of heaven on earth.
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They would cultivate a heavenly habitation for God's presence, power, and glory to dwell.
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You know, some people may think that's odd.
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I've never heard that saying before, but just think of this literally churches.
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Imagine churches in every single community, every city across this nation that literally are carrying the kingdom of heaven, a heavenly blueprint.
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Yes.
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And that are linked with heaven.
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They're in alignment with the kingdom of God, with heaven, heaven on earth.
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Imagine the Spirit of God moving in such a way that we've created as a church such an atmosphere for the presence, the power, the glory, the love of God to be established in those communities and it beginning to flow like rivers of life-giving water into the communities, to the families, to the imagine what could happen.
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And then those churches actually activating, they're engaging at every level of their community and is bringing the kingdom of God.
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They're also like a place not just to assemble and worship and disciple, but to train and plan and operate strategically to impact their community and the nation.
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Amen.
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And they're like a well-prepared army for God's end-time purposes and a great end-time rescue mission.
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That's right.
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And as the pastors and the leaders of these glorious churches are equipping the saints for, like you said, an army to be deployed.
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That's right.
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To go out and to take the gospel and truth and the power of the kingdom.
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It's just amazing to actually imagine this.
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Amen.
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These glorious church, heavenly hubs, will become like an oasis and fountain of life that flows into the communities to bring hope, to bring transformation.
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And we'll reveal more what that looks like in the following chapters, right?
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Amen.
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It's going to be great.
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But look, before we get into the heavenly glorious church model, which we start next episode, we first need to establish and restore two critical keys to help us establish these kingdom of heaven-like hubs that will form and arise.
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So stay with us.
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We'll share these two keys in a moment or right after this break.
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Okay, so we talked about preface one, not just a people, but a place, Heavenly Hubs.
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Preface two as we set up to get into this part three of Rise of the Glorious Church.
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Preface two is this restoring divine order and asking, is God in the house?
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I love that.
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That is the main question we need to ask.
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Is God in the house?
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That's right.
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You know, we can have everything look great, everything in place, but if God's not in the house, there's no power there to set captives free.
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That's right.
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There's no power.
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See, because we can have the word and just the letter of the law, but without the spirit of God breathing upon it and in it, it does not have the power to set free.
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That's right.
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So let's look at this a little closer.
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If we want to see God move in our churches fully, without limits, it will require us operating in divine order.
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See, when the church comes into heavenly alignment, it can truly operate at its fullest potential.
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That's the importance of divine order.
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Amen.
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Divine order is a big deal to God.
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We see divine order throughout scripture.
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In creation, the sequence that He created everything and the order he created everything in, marriage, in biblical instructions of the tabernacle.
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In fact, the Ark of the Covenant, His presence and glory was the first thing they were to build.
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Everything else was built around that.
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And then especially divine order and instructions on how to carry the ark of the Lord.
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Remember, when they didn't do that, right?
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Somebody died.
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And they had to go back.
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What's the proper way?
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What's the divine order the way we're supposed to carry this and do this?
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That's right.
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And so really we see in the church a lack of divine order is why many believers and churches are limited and functioning well below what God intended.
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That's so true.
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And you know, we've heard the phrase cart before the horse.
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If you've heard that, you understand it means that something is out of order and contrary to really how things should be functioning.
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That's right.
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But imagine a horse standing behind a cart trying to push it forward.
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It would be awkward, frustrating, and far less effective than it was designed to do.
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And at the same time, someone could get hurt.
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I mean, let's look at two biblical examples of divine order.
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The first example of divine order, where Jesus declared the first and greatest commandment is to first love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.
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Then he said, second, to love others as yourself.
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Amen.
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Did you notice the order of that?
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God first, people second.
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Right.
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That's divine order.
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It is.
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We see that also in our next example.
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Example two.
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Or example two is this.
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In Revelation 2, Jesus commended the Ephesians church for many great things they were doing.
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I mean, they were doing so many great things right.
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But listen, he said, But this I have against you.
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You have left your first love.
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Wow.
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See, while they were working and serving and doing ministry, their relationship with Jesus was no longer first.
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And see, the message here was clear.
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Our relationship with Jesus must remain our first and central focus.
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Everything else is secondary.
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Amen.
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And that's so important to remember.
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It's interesting because the alarming statistics indicate that many pastors have little to no prayer life or real time with God.
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And you know, so many of their hearts, they're motivated, they want to help people, they want to serve, and they just pour and pour themselves out.
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They're so preoccupied with building the church that many have lost their first love without even realizing it.
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As a result, they begin to rely on and build based on mere human strength and reasoning.
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On the surface, they may appear successful, but they are like sand castles that will crumble in the storms ahead.
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How can we build God's house his way if we are disconnected from him?
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We cannot.
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That's right.
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They need him.
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That's right.
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As they are pouring out and pouring out, but if they don't take the time to allow God to pour back in and to build that intimate, beautiful relationship with the Father, they're not going to know his heart, they're not going to know his mind.
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And there will burnout will come.
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And that's what we see often.
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They become easy prey to the enemy.
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And eventually many end up falling into sin, and then their secret sins are exposed, and it brings great damage to the church of Jesus Christ.
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And you know, I use this saying, pray, P-R-A-Y, or become prey, P-R-E-Y, to the enemy.
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Because that's really what it is.
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Yeah.
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You either stay in connection and keep that close relationship strong because He is our strength.
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That's right.
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And if we're not connected to our vital source, our love, our light, our power source, we're not going to be able to stand.
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That's right.
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So if you don't pray, you'll become prey.
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That's right.
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So we see that divine order is a critical key that helps set up and lay the foundation for the church to rise up glorious.
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Amen.
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So important.
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And another key aspect of this is understanding what our number one ministry and our number one function is.
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Again, restoring divine order must be given with God Himself at the center of everything.
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And that's where our number one ministry is to the Lord.
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Amen.
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So the first step in restoring divine order can be summarized in one key statement.
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Ministry to the Lord comes before ministering for the Lord.
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Amen.
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And that's both in our personal lives, right?
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That's right.
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And corporately.
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That's right.
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The leaders in God's house.
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That's right.
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So what does ministering to the Lord look like?
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When we think of ministering to the Lord, that's not like something, oh, I have to work for the Lord.
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I have to minister to him.
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This is really about relationship.
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It's really about worshiping him, acknowledging him.
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I mean, we know scripture tells us that we enter his gates with thanksgiving and his courts with praise.
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And you know, when you have that vital, intimate relationship with him, that just comes naturally.
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It's just an overflow of the Spirit of God.
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It's not like, okay, I gotta be thankful.
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I'm gonna enter his courts and I'm gonna be, I'm gonna say thankful things and I'm gonna do this.
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But see, when you have that vital relationship with him, it's not about having to do this or do that.
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It's about out of the overflow of the Spirit of God in you.
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You just want to thank him for what he's doing and you want to praise him.
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And so it's a beautiful ministry and relationship with the Lord.
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And that's really ministering to the Lord is not some kind of a work we do, it's something just flows out of our love relationship with him.
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That's right.
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See, there's no higher purpose than to worship the Lord, ministering to him, enthroning him above everything else.
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Because when we minister to the Lord, it draws God's presence, his power, his glory.
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That's right.
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When we minister to the Lord, it changes the atmosphere as heaven starts invading the earth.
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That's right.
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It's we see the scriptures is with the high praises of God in your mouth and a two-edged sword in your hand, you will execute vengeance on the nobles.
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And really, those are the high principalities, the powers.
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But you know, the the ministering to the Lord, I just want to say this is you know, God doesn't need your praise, he doesn't need your affirmation, he doesn't need He's self-sufficient, He is all sufficient in Himself, but really we need that because we need His presence.
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We need Him more than anything, and that's why this is so critical in the divine order of things, because we need Him.
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That's right.
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As we sow to the Spirit, we reap the Spirit.
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That's what they're doing.
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We reap life, we're sowing and we're reaping.
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Reaping life is reciprocal.
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That's right.
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Our praise to Him, you know, praise, worship, power, and glory to you, Lord.
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He gives that back to us.
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That's right.
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He gives us power, his power, and his glory to help release among us, and that helps when ministering to the Lord comes first like that.
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It also brings the anointing and power to minister then to the people.
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Yes.
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So we minister to the Lord first, that's first to God, vertical ministry.
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Right.
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Then we minister for the Lord.
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That's horizontal ministry to the people.
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That's right.
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And you know, this may seem real elementary to some people.
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Yeah, yeah, I know that.
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But a lot of people in their head, they know it.
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But with all the distractions we have in our day, and especially for pastors and leaders, it's so easy to let that be the first thing that goes.
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So we need to, as we look at ministry and we look at the church and all that God is, He has to become the main attraction in our churches.
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He has to be number one.
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The greatest gift we can give the people is not merely a program, a message, or a ministry moment, it's an encounter with God Himself.
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Amen.
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And we're not just talking about experience, we're talking about, and and I know I've been there and many others have.
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You walk into the room, into the church, even driving up onto the driveway.
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That's right.
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And you know, someone's been praying here because the atmosphere is electric, it's filled with faith, with the love of God.
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And literally, you step out and you know, oh, I'm this is very different.
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And see, God, He wants that in every church, everywhere, because there's so many out there that need it, that are hungry.
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They want that peace, they want that presence, they are hungry for change, they're trying to set themselves free.
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And it's not gonna happen without the presence, the power, the truth of God's word.
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That's right.
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So imagine a place where people come, encounter God in a life-transforming way.
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The ministry starts going to a whole other level.
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That's right.
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A heavily throne room-like level, because God's presence and power is there.
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That's what divine order helps bring.
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Yes.
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When he's our first order of ministry, it sets up a powerful time of ministry thin to the people.
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That's right.
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Well, you know, nowadays, and we've seen this kind of these cookie-cutter uh great marketing and all of this stuff.
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And here, you go plan a church and we'll pay for everything, we'll get this for you, we'll get this for you, and that for you.
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And so it becomes kind of like a business model.
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And and there's nothing wrong with that.
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But if you don't have if if God's not at the forefront here and he's not number one, and you're not bringing God into the house, it doesn't matter how brilliant your marketing is, it's not gonna be it'll do good for a while.
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It may not even look successful, but it'll be like an inch thick, a mile wide.
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Yeah, and we've we've seen that over and over again.
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That's right.
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And we're gonna share later what a prophetic glimpse of all this looks like.
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When the king of glory comes in, it starts revealing why ministering to the Lord is so critical.
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And it's gonna help set up why the glorious church will rise up glorious.
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Amen.
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We see our number one ministry is to the Lord, our number one function as a church is to be a house of prayer.
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Amen.
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Everything will flow from there, and we'll explore the power and significance of prayer further later on in the power center.
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Actually, one of my favorite chapters building the power center.
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Yeah, it's gonna be great.
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That'll be in a couple episodes down the road here.
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All right, so now let's share real briefly about good versus God's best.
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So we see ministry to people is really important and close to God's heart, but even something good can be out of order when it replaces the most important thing that should come first.
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Again, we have to be careful not to put the cart before the horse.
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That we believe our first focus in the church must be God Himself.
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Amen.
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And then when we do that, then he comes and ministers to the people in a far greater way than we ever could.
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This is God's best in a nutshell.
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So we got to be careful not to let the good of just ministering to the people replace the best, bringing God into the house and then let him minister to the people.
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Amen.
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You know, as we look at this for decades now, we've seen many churches just trying to become seeker friendly.
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They just want the numbers.
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We need more numbers.
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And I understand that.
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You know, scripture, Jesus said, go into the highways, the byways compel them to come in.
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So there is a place for that, absolutely.
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But first we want to be a God-friendly church.
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Because if we're going to shut everything down, the Spirit of God, the truth of God's word, and everything, just so people will come, we're nothing more than a business or a club.
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That's right.
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We cannot do that.
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So true.
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Because they may come, but what do we have to give them?
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And it's all in the name of relevance.
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Exactly.
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I want to be relevant.
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So that's good.
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That can be a good thing to a point, but you don't let that replace divine order again.
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The most important thing.
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That's right.
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Because God, they need God.
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They don't need more of everything the world has to offer.
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That's right.
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And so this has resulted in a consumer-based mentality for many Christians.
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In other words, they go to church.
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Oh, what do you got for me today?
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You know, that's right.
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What will keep me interested?
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What will keep me coming back?
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Instead of realizing that they are a part, a vital part of the body of Jesus Christ.
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And there are several churches, many churches out there that are doing this correctly.
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They are really seeking God.
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They're people of prayer and all of that.
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But there are many that through the decades here, a lot of the teaching has really shifted.
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But this consumer-based approach actually pressures pastors and ministry teams to perform, perform.
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That's right.
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To compromise the truth and use questionable tactics to draw and keep people.
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But the church, instead of focusing first on being seeker-friendly, the church must focus first on being God-friendly.
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We point this out because we know how easy it is to fall into the trap of trying to create an amazing guest experience and miss out on what people need the most, a real God experience.
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Oh, that's so right.
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Yeah.
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We can relate to this through a personal story that we understand how easy it is to fall into this trap.
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It's a slippery slope.
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See, decades ago, we actually worked with a new and upcoming church, and we were actually helping to lead a media team.
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And our heart was, we want to glorify God and all the motion graphics and the presentation, everything like that.
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And listen, God loves creativity and can use media in a powerful way if done with the right motivation under the direction of the Holy Spirit.
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That's right.
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However, for us, we had gotten lost in all the noise and all the flash of creating a production called church to attract people.
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And what happened really is back then you were going day and night.
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There was a lot of pressure to produce, produce, produce.
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That's right.
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But what happens again slow fade.
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Yeah, what happens with that is you start to get burned out.
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And you start, you know, that when the things of the Spirit of God just kind of gradually are slip away, and all of a sudden you're like, where's the hunger I once had?
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That's right.
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Where's the passion I once had?
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And it's because you didn't even have time to be vitally connected to your source.
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We're not going to blame a church for that.
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We're going to blame ourselves for that.
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That's right.
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Because we let it happen.
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That's right.
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So we became distracted for what was most important.
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We got out of divine order, and our focus was attracting the people instead of attracting God's presence and power.
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And see, the reality is a church without God's presence is little more than a Christian social club.
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That's right.
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And God had to really wake us up one day.
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And it was like, wow, what are we doing?
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Right.
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And it was astounding.
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I'll never forget it.
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It was it was powerful.
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He began to just really deal with us and show us things.
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And he said, The work I'm doing in you, I'm going to do in my church too.
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And that he would begin to wake up his people.
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That's right.
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And so he really reset our lives.
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We renewed our walk with him.
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We disconnected from that church.
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We had to get away and re have a sabbatical and reset.
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And the funny thing is, and this is ironic, is that after our sabbatical, the Lord led us to a small startup church whose entire media presentation consisted of an old-fashioned overhead projector on a wall.
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Talking about God has a sense of humor.
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He just he why he just removed it all.
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That's right.
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And he did because he's like, You need me.
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That's right.
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All that other stuff you just set aside.
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So we went from a high-tech stage, large screens, to a humble overhead projector.
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God definitely has a sense of humor.
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But listen, during that season, he reminded us, just like you said, his presence is what we truly need.
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That's everything else is secondary.
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Amen.
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Of course, his word is the foundation of all that.
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That's right.
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But his presence is an extension of that.
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And that leads us to a second story that we had, actually, honey.
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Amen.
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You know, God, first I want to say this: God is so committed to his church.
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He loves his church.
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He really does.
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And he is here to help us.
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He's not coming to condemn us, he's coming to help us.
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And a lot of times we just need our eyes opened up.
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A lot of times we don't realize it.
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We just get buried in all the stuff.
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That's right.
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And he's like, hey, hey, wake up.
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That's right.
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And that's why we've been praying for awakening for several years.
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Yes.
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And but that personal story, um, I'm not going to go into it into detail right here.
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I do have it in the book.
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But I I do remember walking into uh a church, it was a women's event here in North Texas at a big uh multi-campus church.
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And I was looking forward, I was thinking, oh, I'm looking forward to genuine worship and ministry and the really the presence of the Lord.
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But I was so saddened what transpired to the point that I actually had to leave.
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And my spirit was grieved.
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It just was.
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And I was able to push past the secular country Western music in the sanctuary and the adult minister in short shorts and cowboy boots who opened up the service.
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I was trying to overlook all these things, not wanting to be critical or religious.
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But then several women came out on the platform with loud music and light show lined up with backspace to the to us, then broke out in seductive dance moves to a jingle created for the next women's event.
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I felt like I was in a nightclub and was concerned about, oh, what's going to happen next?
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Oh my goodness.
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Yeah.
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And sadly, it appears that increasingly these are common experiences in both men's and women's ministries, and really at the writing of this book.
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You know, we've seen that happen over the last several decades, but there is a real shift going on.
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Yes.
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There is a real shift.
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There's a real breaking, God's shaking, God's dealing with leaders, with his people.
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And so we are seeing a shift here.
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But that is what we were seeing.
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And I literally left.
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I was in tears, and my spirit was grieved because I'm thinking to myself, this church is supposed to be God's house, a holy place, a place of prayer and worship.
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And God wants us to rejoice.
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He wants us to celebrate and all of that, but not the way the world does.
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I was thinking, okay, when are they going to break up a tequila?
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You know, that and everything.
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Ministry leaders are supposed to be setting an example and training the women in godliness.
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That's what God's word instructs us to do.
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So I asked, what has become with the house of God?
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And so, but God is doing He's doing a work.
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He's doing a work.
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That's right.
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And you know, I just think of these other churches like the underground church in China and these other churches that are just barely surviving.
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You know, a lot of times these things start happening in places they get really comfortable.
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And in America, yeah and in the area that we are in, and all of that, things are comfortable.
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People have everything they need and they start just sitting back.
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I'm good.
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No hunger or need for uh to press into God.
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It's the Laodicea kind of church.
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Exactly.
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So we encourage churches really to evaluate everything you're doing and allow the Holy Spirit to search your hearts and motives for what you're doing and why you're doing it.
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It isn't God's will for you to do this.
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Satan is working hard to lure the church away from her first love, the real power source, God's pure word and his presence.
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Amen.
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Amen.
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We must guard ourselves against becoming entertainment driven.
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And instead, we need to become a presence-driven church.
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Yes.
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And you know, God will use there, God, again, we've said this several times that the media, God will use media, he will use creative presentation, he will do use drama and all of that.
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He will use those tools and can use them in a powerful way if the anointing in the presence of God is on them.
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But if they're not pure before him, you know, we just want to bring in any kind of entertainment.
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That's not true.
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What's the reason for us doing this?
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What's the motive behind it?
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Yes.
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So yeah.
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So we looked at divine order was the first key to restoring things, putting things in place for the church to rise up glorious.
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The second key we've talked about is God and the house.
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Amen.
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So divine order is first to get God to attend the house, right?
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And then let him minister from there.
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But when we see in the book of Acts, for example, in the New Testament church, they were never seeking for ways to draw people.
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In fact, when we look at that, the New Testament church was obedient to God.
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They were in prayer, and God moved in such a powerful way.
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In fact, the fear of God hit the church many times.
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There was many signs and wonders that happened, and as a result, many people, even thousands, were added to the church daily, it says.
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See, when the God's presence, power, and glory show up, he will draw the people.
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In fact, when God shows up, you won't be able to keep the people away.
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Amen.
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It's God's presence that they need.
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You know, people may be emotionally stimulated by music, by the creative presentation and the lights and all of that.
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And that can be emotionally stimulating, but yet they can leave unchanged.
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That's right.
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The world is already saturated, oversaturated with creative and flashing media.
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People don't need more of what the world is offering.
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Instead, they need what the world cannot offer them.
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That's an encounter with a living God.
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Amen.
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A life-changing God encounter and a God experience is really what they need and want.
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This reminds us of a key quote from a prophetic word that we share later in chapter seven.
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They're not looking to be entertained, they're looking to be changed.
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Wow.
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Just think about that.
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They're not looking to be entertained, they're looking to be changed.
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Wow.
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See, a person's first and greatest encounter when entering a church should be the presence of God.
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Amen.
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Imagine that.
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This actually reminds us of a prophetic exhortation the Lord gave us during prayer.
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And we pray it encourages you, every minister and church as well, as you listen to this prophetic exhortation, where the Lord says, All you need is me and my presence.
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Amen.
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So I wanted to just take a moment and share something before I read this.
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Go ahead.
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Is as you were talking about, and we've been talking about give them me.
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All they what they need is me, the presence of God.
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You know, I've talked to many people, and there are so many young people today, and just think of it.
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There's young people, people our age, people older, that they are so confused, they're hurting, they're in depression.
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I mean, some of the even statistics come out of the US and the UK and other nations, even, is these young people, a lot of them are now on some kind of a psychological financial aid because they can't even function hardly.
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And it just breaks my heart.
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And imagine some of those people coming into a church, coming to church because they're so confused inside and messed up and depression and hopelessness and everything.
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Their family's broken apart and they're coming in.
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And someone help me.
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I need to be changed.
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And then they come in and there's no power there.
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There's no prayer going on.
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There's no flashy presentations and great presentation.
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Everything looks good, sounds good, and everything, but there's no power there to set them free.
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That's right.
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And listen, this the church, we need to understand there is a world broken, dying, hurting.
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That's right.
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And they are looking for answers.
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That's right.
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And we have to give them something more.
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We have to.
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And that's only going to come as we connect with heaven.
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And our churches become these glorious heavenly hubs where the Spirit of God is thick and rich and powerful and ready for those that come in the door.
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That's right.
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That's what he wants to bring.
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And that's where I think you'll hear his heart in this prophetic word that he's about to read.
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That's right.
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No challenge, no problem is too big for him.
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That's right.
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Right?
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It's too big for us, maybe, for man, but not too big for God.
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So if he's in the house, everything's going to change.
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That's right.
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Listen to this.
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This is amazing.
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So this is the word the Lord is saying, Yes, I will move through the instruments.
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Yes, I will move through your songs.
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Yes, I will move.
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But know this.
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I need none of these.
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I will use them, and I will use them mightily, and my anointing will come upon them.
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But know this, it is me alone that they need.
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I am the one.
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Sorry, who will set them free.
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I am the one that can bring them to their knees.
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Remember, all they need is me.
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You do not have to have all these other things to set them free.
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Remember that.
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All they need is me.
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Give them me.
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Give them my presence.
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Give them my word.
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You cannot give them.
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Listen to this, church.
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You cannot give them what you do not have.
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This is why I've told you and will continue to call you deeper into me.
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So you will have what they need.
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Give them me.
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And here's a secret: pay the price down on your knees.
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Pursue me.
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So let that just resonate with you.
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So all of these things God will use and he'll use them powerfully because he's given gifts to the church to equip the church and to build the church.
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But it's his presence.
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That is so good and powerful.
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So we have to ask ourselves, church, what do we really want?
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Amen.
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That's right.
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Every church must ask itself, what are we truly building here?
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Are we building a place just to draw people with our creative presentation to get converts, increase attendance, and build church membership?
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And sadly, there can be a lot of pride caught up in that too.
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Like, oh, I'm successful.
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Look at all these people got saved.
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And look at all this.
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And need to ask ourselves, are we building a place for people to come or are we building a place for people to come and encounter God to be set free and to have their lives transformed and changed?
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Remember, God's presence and power will draw the people.
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He will use it.
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He can use it as a powerful tool, but it's his he will draw them by his spirit.
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Amen.
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And we know most churches really want God's presence in the house, right?
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And in the services.
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But it's so easy to get distracted.
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And that's why they have to strip away the distractions and focus on bringing God back into the house.
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And that doesn't mean you don't use marketing or media as a tool inspired by the Holy Spirit, like Cindy mentioned.
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But first, let's make sure we have something to give them.
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Amen.
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Let's give them God.
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Amen.
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Right?
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Amen.
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That's what they really need.
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Amen.
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The author of life.
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Wow.
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So we see this as we start closing here.
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The glorious church paradigm is this.
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The glorious church begins by attracting and hosting God's presence.
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First by ministering to him, then from his presence, he ministers to the people.
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Amen.
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Releasing his life, his power, his deliverance, his healing, his blessing.
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It's life transforming what he wants to bring.
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Amen.
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Amen.
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And as the church continues to host his presence, it can become more than just a place where services are held.
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It becomes like a heavenly habitation.
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Amen.
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A dwelling place for God's throne and glory on earth.
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Amen.
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It becomes that kingdom of heaven like hub and realm on earth that will shine out like a city on a hill.
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Amen.
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You know, I have to bring this up, and I think we may have shared it way early in our one of our podcast episodes.
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Is I remember this back in maybe 2010, there was a move of God happening in some city or state.
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And it was amazing because people were going there because God was really moving, ministering to people, setting them free, people getting saved.
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It was definitely a God thing.
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But when I saw this, my heart was just overwhelmed with this longing from the Spirit of God.
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And the Lord said, Cindy, I don't want to just move in one place.
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I want to move in every city, every community.
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I want to move across the nations of the earth and in America.
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And it's going to happen.
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How is in the communities?
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God wants to reach everywhere.
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So we're believing, and we believe this is the heart of the Father, is to have these glorious churches, glorious church hub, glorious churches in every community.
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Every so in this book, we kind of we lay out really that heavenly blueprint.
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And what will happen as a result of that?
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Yes, amen.
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See, when divine order is in place, that's right.
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God is in the house, he's our number one focus.
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That's right.
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And his presence comes, he begins ministering to the people, things start going to a whole another level that we've never seen before.
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Church was meant to be a God's house, not ours.
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Amen.
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Therefore, our goal must be build his house, his way.
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Amen.
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That's where we have as pastors and and leaders in that.
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We have to throw out our own agendas.
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We have to get rid of all the little cookie cutter, Mark and here's the here's the plan, da-da-da-da-da.
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And they'll all come, you know, have your bouncy houses and do this and do that.
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And and all of that is, I'm not dissing all of that.
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But if you got all of that and you don't have God, again, you got nothing.
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You have nothing.
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So God has a certain way that He wants to build His house.
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Amen.
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And really, there's a heavenly, glorious church model, a prophetic and divine blueprint for the glorious church.
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Amen.
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What it's supposed to look like.
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And we start going through that in our next episode.
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Amen.
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So, in quick review, preface one, it's not just about a people, it's about a place.
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Amen.
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Heavenly hubs, heavenly kingdom hubs on earth that God wants to establish.
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Preface two, it's about those two keys: restoring divine order and as God in the house.
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And then realizing again that our number one ministry is to the Lord.
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That ministry to the Lord comes before ministry for the Lord.
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Amen.
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Ministering for the Lord to his people.
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And our number one function is to be a house of prayer.
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Our number one ministry to the Lord, our number one function is a house of prayer.
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Everything flows from there.
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Amen.
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And remember, it's good versus God's best.
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Amen.
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Which is really glorious.
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That's what it is.
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So we ask the question, is God in the house?
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Because really it's his presence we know they need.
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Yes.
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And we ask the question too, what do we really want?
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We need to ask that question as the church.
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Do we want to see lives truly transformed?
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That's right.
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Then we have to adopt that glorious church paradigm that you were talking about.
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That's right.
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We have to have that and understand what that looks like.
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That's right.
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And we'll be going into that in our next episode with a chapter called The Heavenly Glory Church Model.
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It's a prophetic blueprint of what God wants to build.
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And we're reminded again of what he spoke to us.
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We shared it at the end of last episode.
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We'll share it again here because it's setting up what we're going to start talking about next.
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Amen.
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This is where the Lord is saying break the mold, let my plans unfold.
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Amen.
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That's going to be a powerful one.
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And looking at this and just the truths that are there and what that heavenly glorious church model is.
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And his plans are revealed in the heavenly glorious church model, I believe.
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And the chapters after that.
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Amen.
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Provide more detail.
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Amen.
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It's going to be exciting.
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So that concludes our episode today.
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Yay.
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We made it through.
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Yes, yes.
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All right.
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Well, thank you so much for joining us today.
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And we pray, we pray that God has spoken to you, stirred your heart, and just really imparted his heart to you.
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Because that's a big thing.
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Getting God's heart in the midst of all the noise and all the voices and so much going on.
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It's there's nothing more beautiful than to be close enough to him that you can hear his heartbeat.
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That's right.
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Remember in 2 Corinthians 6, 16, he talked about he wants to dwell not just in us, but walk among us.
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And that's what we can help set up through divine order and making sure that God is in the house.
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Amen.
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His presence, his power, his glory.
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Amen.
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And some more details about that next time.
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Amen.
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And we pray as we close this out.
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I want to pray for you.
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That very scripture in that 2nd Corinthians, he said, I will dwell in them and walk among them.
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I will be their God and they shall be my people.
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And we want to pray that over you right now, that in your home where you are right now, that God will walk among you and your family, and you will know that he's in the room.
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And that he will speak to you.
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And again, we know the scripture draw near to me, and I will draw near to you.
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So he loves it when we take that first step.
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Amen.
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That he wants to walk among you, your family.
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Amen.
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Well, that concludes our episode today.
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And we look forward to next time when we talk about the heavenly glorious church model.
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Amen.
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So until then, together in Christ, let's rise up glorious to transform lives.
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Amen.
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Amen.
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Until next time, let's rise up glorious.