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I always find annoying and thrilling at the same time.
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Is like when you have a huge city mission and
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you in my kind of playing style, I not got
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everyone of course, because I want to like explore the
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area like without any stress. And then there's like a
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guard and I think they put them there on purpose.
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That has such a huge way to walk through the
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level that you that you didn't recognize him before and
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that suddenly comes his way, you know, like crossing your
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area that you thought is peaceful, and this is always
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like wait, he wasn't there for like twenty minutes. What
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are you doing here right now? But it's a good way,
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Like first of all, it puts like a narrative to it,
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like that's not just gods, like walking two hundred feet
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up and down like you would go crazy. I couldn't
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be a bus driver because like you know, like eight
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hours like going this same lane like no. But and
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then but that's that was his thought I had before,
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Like maybe you play like things like what is it
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the city game? Cities? Uh, it's like I think it's
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called cities blah blah blah. And you can make bus
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routes so you try to find the most logical way
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that most areas have like a bus stop, and that
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the lines go like logical. And I think many authors
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of fan missions create maybe their paths of the guards
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as well, like okay, every area should be guarded like
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in a you know.
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Yeah they should. Well, sometimes it has great implications because
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I would say that, like there's one there's this one
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mission by Villa Villa, I don't know, double double w
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I R L l E. And it's the series w
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I L L E.
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Willa that the Villa that sounds very German.
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Yeah, he made he made a series called Mystic Gems. Yes,
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the second installment is Mystic Gems too. Heart of Bond.
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What a good mission. But I have a problem with
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that mission. Of course, it's completely logical and realistic that
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the captain of the Guard would go randomly across the
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whole museum, right yeah, yeah, yeah, and uh, because he
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has to keep an eye on his guards. Right. But
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he had the key. He had one key that you
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had to get. Of course, it was his quarters. I'm
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not gonna spoil why you need it, and but you
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have to get it to complete the mission. And his
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path was random, and I think with him in particularly
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is where I started to think that my maybe thief
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two also has that uh restriction where if the guard
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is far away from you, it would start patrolling, because
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I would wait in a spot where I have seen
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him previously. And I waited half an hour, if not more.
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I'm certain that it was half an hour.
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Only know that I can't recall like how the mission looked,
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but I know this issue totally. I had the same
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thing and not do you reconsidered that.
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You talk about these broken pass but I've never ever
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encountered that. The any time I've encountered broken pass is
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when the AI gets stuck on something and can't move,
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But sometimes it's usually able to correct itself and carry
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on pretty start. But did the path notes which you
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put down in fan missions inside the editor, is it
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tend to be pretty good distance from it stopping it
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from working. It seems weird because your distance from them,
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here's the thing should should know no affect them as
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it were.
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I have a theory like maybe if he has like
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a random way to walk, Yeah, maybe.
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That's completely maybe that's mathematically proven.
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Yeah, maybe maybe he got stuck somewhere.
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No, Well, if it's random, he doesn't have to come
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to that area. It could be three hours before he
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actually comes. If it's random, yeah, that's definitely, or he
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got struck.
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You know, and he didn't, and so he was like
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walking into a door for half an hour and you
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were waiting for him half an hour.
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No, I actually, I actually after half an hour, I
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started to do the following. I would. I would start
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running through the whole through the museum and try to
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find him, to see where he is. I would.
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I did as well.
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When I would find him, I would then reload, and
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then I would wait again. And then after another let's
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say ten minutes, he was still wouldn't come. I would
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go again, and.
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I always found him.
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Right, I did the same.
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But but here's the thing that why maybe not everybody
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body uh felt this. The thing is, if you knock
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out guard right, you would in certain certain states you
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would have a couple of guards knocked out right. You
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would have much more freedom of going around the museum.
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The museum is so vast, and I could there's a
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lot of guards inside at night, which is fascinating to me.
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I didn't like that, but I enjoyed sneaking around and
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I could move from place to place very slowly. So
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the best solution for me was to wait at a
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place where I where at least I could see a
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lot of area, and then try to get him. But
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I couldn't and there wasn't really I mean, I couldn't
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go running around free up a lot of space. Actually,
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there were a few places that I couldn't reach with
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my style, so that kind of made it. It's a
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perfect mission I'm trying to solve that. I'm actually considering
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using minds to blow down his door, just not just
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for not waiting him, you know, but.
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Maybe because like maybe if you knock out many guards,
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maybe there are more resources for the engine. Oh you know,
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that's maybe another theory that I don't know, but from
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from a technical point of view, it might be, like
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it makes sense.
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I'm pretty sure things are maybe not in this game,
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but it's done in other games. It's it's done with
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with
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I always find annoying and thrilling at the same time.
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Is like when you have a huge city mission and
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you in my kind of playing style, I not got
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everyone of course, because I want to like explore the
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area like without any stress. And then there's like a
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guard and I think they put them there on purpose.
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That has such a huge way to walk through the
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level that you that you didn't recognize him before and
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that suddenly comes his way, you know, like crossing your
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area that you thought is peaceful, and this is always
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like wait, he wasn't there for like twenty minutes. What
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are you doing here right now? But it's a good way,
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Like first of all, it puts like a narrative to it,
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like that's not just gods, like walking two hundred feet
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up and down like you would go crazy. I couldn't
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be a bus driver because like you know, like eight
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hours like going this same lane like no. But and
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then but that's that was his thought I had before,
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Like maybe you play like things like what is it
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the city game? Cities? Uh, it's like I think it's
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called cities blah blah blah. And you can make bus
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routes so you try to find the most logical way
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that most areas have like a bus stop, and that
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the lines go like logical. And I think many authors
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of fan missions create maybe their paths of the guards
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as well, like okay, every area should be guarded like
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in a you know.
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Yeah they should. Well, sometimes it has great implications because
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I would say that, like there's one there's this one
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mission by Villa Villa, I don't know, double double w
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I R L l E. And it's the series w
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I L L E.
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Willa that the Villa that sounds very German.
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Yeah, he made he made a series called Mystic Gems. Yes,
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the second installment is Mystic Gems too. Heart of Bond.
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What a good mission. But I have a problem with
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that mission. Of course, it's completely logical and realistic that
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the captain of the Guard would go randomly across the
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whole museum, right yeah, yeah, yeah, and uh, because he
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has to keep an eye on his guards. Right. But
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he had the key. He had one key that you
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had to get. Of course, it was his quarters. I'm
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not gonna spoil why you need it, and but you
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have to get it to complete the mission. And his
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path was random, and I think with him in particularly
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is where I started to think that my maybe thief
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two also has that uh restriction where if the guard
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is far away from you, it would start patrolling, because
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I would wait in a spot where I have seen
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him previously. And I waited half an hour, if not more.
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I'm certain that it was half an hour.
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Only know that I can't recall like how the mission looked,
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but I know this issue totally. I had the same
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thing and not do you reconsidered that.
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You talk about these broken pass but I've never ever
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encountered that. The any time I've encountered broken pass is
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when the AI gets stuck on something and can't move,
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But sometimes it's usually able to correct itself and carry
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on pretty start. But did the path notes which you
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put down in fan missions inside the editor, is it
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tend to be pretty good distance from it stopping it
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from working. It seems weird because your distance from them,
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here's the thing should should know no affect them as
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it were.
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I have a theory like maybe if he has like
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a random way to walk, Yeah, maybe.
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That's completely maybe that's mathematically proven.
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Yeah, maybe maybe he got stuck somewhere.
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No, Well, if it's random, he doesn't have to come
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to that area. It could be three hours before he
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actually comes. If it's random, yeah, that's definitely, or he
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got struck.
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You know, and he didn't, and so he was like
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walking into a door for half an hour and you
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were waiting for him half an hour.
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No, I actually, I actually after half an hour, I
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started to do the following. I would. I would start
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running through the whole through the museum and try to
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find him, to see where he is. I would.
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I did as well.
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When I would find him, I would then reload, and
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then I would wait again. And then after another let's
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say ten minutes, he was still wouldn't come. I would
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go again, and.
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I always found him.
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Right, I did the same.
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But but here's the thing that why maybe not everybody
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body uh felt this. The thing is, if you knock
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out guard right, you would in certain certain states you
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would have a couple of guards knocked out right. You
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would have much more freedom of going around the museum.
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The museum is so vast, and I could there's a
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lot of guards inside at night, which is fascinating to me.
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I didn't like that, but I enjoyed sneaking around and
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I could move from place to place very slowly. So
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the best solution for me was to wait at a
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place where I where at least I could see a
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lot of area, and then try to get him. But
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I couldn't and there wasn't really I mean, I couldn't
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go running around free up a lot of space. Actually,
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there were a few places that I couldn't reach with
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my style, so that kind of made it. It's a
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perfect mission I'm trying to solve that. I'm actually considering
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using minds to blow down his door, just not just
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for not waiting him, you know, but.
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Maybe because like maybe if you knock out many guards,
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maybe there are more resources for the engine. Oh you know,
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that's maybe another theory that I don't know, but from
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from a technical point of view, it might be, like
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it makes sense.
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I'm pretty sure things are maybe not in this game,
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but it's done in other games. It's it's done with
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with
