True Crime Documentary - The Batman Shootings

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315 and 314 for a shooting at Century Theater's.
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14300 East Alameda Avenue.
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They're saying somebody's shooting in the auditorium.
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Just after midnight on July 20th, in a small town
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in Midwest America, a masked gunman enters a theater showing
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the premiere of the new Batman film.
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Yeah, all of our people are saying Theater 9, where
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Batman was playing.
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A local radio station is reporting that some people have
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been killed, but there has been no official confirmation.
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The details soon become clear and the reality is horrific.
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And here's what we know right now, as you mentioned,
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the revised number, 12 dead, 50 injured.
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The youngest victim, just three months old. The suspect is
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in custody right now.
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We know he's a young man, 24 years old.
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Eyewitnesses describe him as armed for battle.
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Armed for battle.
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The accused an academically brilliant college dropout. James Holmes, aged 24,
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he dyed his hair orange and when arrested tells the
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police he is the Joker.
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We may never understand what leads anybody to terrorize their
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fellow human beings like this. Such violence, such evil is senseless.
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I'm Amal Fashinou, and this is me two nights before
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the Aurora shootings at the London Leicester Square premiere of
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The Dark Knight Rises, where Batman Christian Bale and Catwoman
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Anne Hathaway are the stars of the red carpet. Now
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I've come 5,000 miles to Colorado to meet people who
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were inside Century 16 when the shooting started.
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God, it was like so much, bloody... It's not like
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what you see in Hollywood at all.
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I'll hear stories of incredible heroism.
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He completely protected me by telling me what I needed
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to do and pushing me under that seat further. He
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knew he was saving my life.
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I want to find out if young Americans think the
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time has come to tackle gun control. I think guns
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are great.
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I want a gun.
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I'm gonna go buy one right now, actually.
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And I'll tell the story of how the lives of
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James Holmes and one of his victims, Jessica Redfield, both 24,
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collided on a night that saw the deaths of 10
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Americans under the age of 30.
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They're saying there's hundreds of people just running around.
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Got a child victim I need to rescue at the
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back door of Theater 9 now.
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I've arrived in Colorado less than a week after the shootings.
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Right next to the state capital of Denver is the
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city of Aurora, population 325,000. Aurora's main feature is the
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Century 16 Theater, and it's here that the shootings happened.
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No one really expects to go to a cinema and
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end up being shot, or, you know, end up having
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a friend shot or a family member shot. Century 16
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is still cordoned off, so relatives and friends have created
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a makeshift memorial on a patch of land close by.
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It's bare, raw, and the tributes are heartbreaking. I don't know,
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this kind of reminds me of Princess Diana's memorial. I
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was really young when that happened, but this kind of
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brings back memories. It hits me just how young they
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all are. 27, 24, 23, 18, even six years old.
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How old are you personally, if you don't mind me asking?
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28.
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28, yeah.
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Because I'm 23 and I kind of just find this
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just amazing how everyone was so young as well.
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Yeah, yeah, and that's what breaks your heart.
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You've got to keep looking at it.
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Haven't even lived half their life.
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Yeah, and it could have been anyone.
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It could have been you, yeah, like any of me.
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I think people are very open here and I don't
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have anything to do with this and, you know, they
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welcome me and I've been here and I kind of
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feel like one of them. And I think that a
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lot of people knew each other, which is unfortunate as
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well because I guess they knew a lot of the
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people who have passed away. Did you know anyone here?
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Yeah, I knew AJ.
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Okay, a lot of people seem to know AJ. What
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was he like as a person?
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He was always happy and smiling, and if he was sad,
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he'd always be the one.
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To make your day.
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Was he very popular? How do you feel about this?
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Well, I've known him since I was six years old, so.
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I'm really sorry.
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I'm so sorry.
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A lot of these people have lost a lot of
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loved ones. I've lost people that I loved before, so
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I can understand what they're going through. And to be
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honest with you, This is just, it's so much more
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than a tragedy that I can't even describe what it is.
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It's something just totally incoherent. And this is just awful. First,
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let's spin back to 1987. James Holmes is born here
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in San Diego, Southern California. An exceptionally bright student, he
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leaves school with top grades.
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All right, our next speaker is James Holmes.
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Aged 18. He's introduced to students at a summer camp.
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In personal life, he enjoys playing soccer and strategy games,
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and his dream is to own a Slurpee machine.
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These kids have been fun to work with this summer.
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But he's a serious student. His expertise is neuroscience.
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My mentor, John Jacobson, who works in CNO, is a
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philosophical type of guy. He's interested in how we perceive reality.
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Describers academically at the top of the top. James Holmes
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studies neuroscience at the University of California, Riverside. James Holmes
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wouldn't have known Jessica Redfield, who was taking the first
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tentative steps on her chosen career. She too was attending
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a university while at the same time trying to break
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into her dream career of sports journalism. She'd landed an
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internship at a cable TV station and was sent out
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to interview an ice hockey star.
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And what about players coming in and out throughout the
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entire season? You get guys that come down from the NHL.
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You can have guys that are coming in from the Coyotes.
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How does that change the dynamic of the team?
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The interns' outtakes were posted on YouTube.
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There we go.
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Can we please stick?
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Here at 760 WKR.
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Jessica was determined that one day she would make it
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to the top, and clearly, She was an instant hit
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with the hockey team.
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After we modify their perception of time, we completely remove
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the delay, and this causes the time illusion.
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James Holmes graduates with a bachelor's degree, but finding work
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is difficult. He gets a part-time job at McDonald's. then
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moves 1,000 miles east to Denver, Colorado to start a
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PhD in neuroscience. But he struggles and quits in early June.
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Out of college, out of a job, and getting deep
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into prescription drugs, Holmes starts searching the internet for explosives
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and ammunition. On June 25th, he fills out an application
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form to join a gun club. I've tracked down the
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club 30 miles east of town. The owner has agreed
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to meet me, and for the first time publicly, show
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me the application form that James Holmes submitted. My name's Amal.
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Amal?
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Glad to meet you, Amal.
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This is the actual application that we received from him,
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with his name, address, all the general information on it,
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and his parents' address in San Diego. When I called
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James Holmes, the problem was is that when I called him,
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he had this rather guttural, bizarre message on his answering
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machine that was indistinguishable rambling very weird at best bizarre
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and so I left the message for him anyway figuring
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who knows maybe somebody did it and he doesn't know
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it's there and he didn't call back so I ended
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up calling the next day and the next day so
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by the third day my attitude was kind of like
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you know this is strange and bizarre you're not calling
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me back you should be you sent me an application
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you know this isn't right so I just simply told
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the staff look This guy's not scheduled, he's not supposed
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to be here. If he shows, then please set him aside,
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put him there, don't process him until I get a
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chance to talk to him to find out who and
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what he is.
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Around the same time, just six weeks before the Batman shootings,
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Jessica Redfield is in Toronto visiting a shopping mall when
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panic breaks out. One person was killed and seven others
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injured in a shooting in one of Canada's busiest shopping centers.
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Ever the journalist, Jessica goes online to tell the world
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what's happened.
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I was shown how fragile life was on Saturday. I
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saw terror on the bystanders' faces. I saw the victims
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of a senseless crime. I saw lives change.
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She said it was definitely a horrific experience. and scary.
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In Aurora, I meet Harmony Johnson, who went to hockey
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matches with Jessica. She believes that Jessica's escape from the
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Toronto shooting had given her a fresh perspective.
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She didn't let it affect her. She didn't let, like,
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her experience... keep her a victim or make her afraid
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of living life at all.
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A hundred miles east of Denver, high in the Rocky Mountains,
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I've come to the old mining town of Leadville to
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check out their annual Boom Day parade. It's a chance
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to find out if Aurora has changed young Americans' views
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on guns. The right to bear arms is a key
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part of the US Constitution. And in Leadville, that's something
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they take very seriously. But I'm still surprised to find
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that a street gun display is part of the family entertainment.
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I'm so scared.
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If I was a kid, I would be petrified. They
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seem pretty relaxed compared to me. In this part of
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the country, owning and using guns is an important tradition.
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But do young Americans here feel the same?
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Well, I personally own three guns, and I think it's
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important to me to have a gun in my house
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because I'm a single person. I live in Boulder, which
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is a secure town, but my house has been broken
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into before.
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I come from a very rural community out in the woods,
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so I was grown up with guns being a tool
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for hunting animals and providing food for families. They're part
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of American culture and have been and continue and will be.
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I want a gun.
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I'm going to go buy one right now, actually.
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Oh, really?
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Yeah, I already own an AR-15.
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But I'm going to go buy another pistol.
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I'm going to go buy a pistol today.
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I think guns are great.
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Everybody has their right to own weapons.
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If they want to have guns, by all means, own them.
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If we're Americans, we should be able to bear arms,
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or why are you Americans?
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I found just one person here who has reservations about
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gun ownerships.
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I do think guns are important, but I kind of
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think that I would be contradictory to most people that
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you would ask here. I think that they shouldn't be
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in the home. I think that owning them and allowing
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them to be everywhere just perpetuates more violence, and I'm
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not a huge supporter of it.
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Get out of our way!
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We got a delivery to make to the bank, and
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I'm not going to put up with no shenanigans.
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Back off!
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The Leadville Old West Reenactment Society stages a mock shootout
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as part of the parade. And people here love it.
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I'll take this from you, sir.
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Well, at the end of the old crown.
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I guess.
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It's all good, clean fun, to the point that guns
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don't kill people.
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It's the people behind the guns that cause the damage.
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That's it.
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So had the shooting in Aurora only two weeks before
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changed the views of these young people?
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No, it hasn't. I think that, like I said, with
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gun safety, it's a big deal. If you own a gun,
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you should be responsible. There's no way that they can
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regulate someone who has a problem.
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There are a lot of crazy people in the world
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doing a lot of crazy things, and so it's hard
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to single out and say, this is the reason that
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guns should be banned or outlawed or something like that.
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Some think the real lesson of Aurora is that people
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need more guns.
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We should have them for our protection.
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If everybody in the theater had a gun on their person.
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It would have never happened.
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Yeah.
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On July 5th, Jessica Redfield tweets that she is celebrating
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her first year in Denver.
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Can't believe I moved to Colorado a year ago today.
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Thanks to everyone who stuck with me along the way.
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It's been a fun journey so far.
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And on July 16th, she has some personal good news
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to share.
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It's official.
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I'm going to be a godmother on August 6th at
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2 p.m. Poor kid doesn't know what he's in for.
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James Holmes isn't on Twitter or Facebook. Having dropped out
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of his PhD course, he's looking for sex and speaking
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to strangers on Adult Friend Finder. It seems he had
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become obsessed with the Batman films. He dyes his hair
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orange and appears to be modeling himself on one of
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the series' key characters, the crazed gunman, the Joker.
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Come on!
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Throughout this summer, James Holmes manages to buy 6,000 rounds
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of ammunition online. And with no criminal record and a
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current Colorado driving license, he is able to buy four
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guns at specialist stores in Aurora, including this one.
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An official Batman hat!
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Around the world, for many young people, premieres of The
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Dark Knight Rises means Batman fever, costumes, souvenirs, and Batmobiles.
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In Aurora, I find four people who'd bought tickets for
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the premiere, a night filled with excitement and anticipation. Kevin Lam,
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age 18, a computer software design student, goes to the
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movie with his girlfriend Ariane.
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I'd never been to a movie premiere before, so this
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was already an amazing thing, going with my girlfriend.
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Jansen Young, age 21, heads to the cinema with her boyfriend,
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John Blanc, after thinking about staying in for the night.
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That night, he was really tired, and we had almost
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discussed not going, but then we were like, no, we
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already got the tickets, let's go. And so we were tired,
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but we were still excited to see the movie because
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we'd been excited for it, you know.
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For a while. Tony Hwang. Age 18, a college student.
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With a group of friends, he arrives early to be
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sure of a seat.
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It was the Batman premiere and it was just so
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exciting that night and I really wanted to see it.
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Harmony Johnson, 23, a single mom being treated for cancer.
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With two friends, she joins a crowd of 200 people.
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We were excited, we were pumped up, everybody was rooting.
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People had their face painted, people had their hair colored,
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people were wearing Batman shirts and costumes and just having
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a great time. I don't know, it was like going
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to a party.
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Jessica Redfield has her ticket but tweets that she's had
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a hard time finding someone to go with.
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Never thought I'd have to coerce a guy into seeing
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the midnight showing of The Dark Knight Rises with me.
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Her excitement is clear as the pre-film trailers start.
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Movie doesn't start for 20 minutes.
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I remember my friends telling me that this was going
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to be the best night ever.
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James Holmes leaves his flat for the movie, but keeps
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music blaring so loudly it disturbs the neighbors. He drives
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to Century 16 with a car full of guns and ammunition.
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The midnight premiere of The Dark Knight Rises is being
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shown on Screen 9. But so many people have turned up,
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they decide to show it on screen eight as well. Unusually,
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James Holmes parks at the back of the multiplex. Inside,
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he manages to get a front row seat in screen nine.
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Once the film begins, Holmes quietly gets up and heads
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for the rear emergency exit door. He goes to his car,
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where he puts on a helmet, gas mask, bulletproof vest
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and leggings, and then picks up gas canisters, his shotgun, handgun,
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and a semi-automatic rifle. He returns via the emergency exit door,
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which he left propped open and heads back to Theater 9.
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Someone walked in the right-hand corner by the screen that
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threw something up behind us. It landed in, like, the
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left-back corner, and it smoked the.
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Entire way up there.
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And, like, I watched it, and.
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Then when it went boom, immediately it was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
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that's not part of this.
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At first I thought it was some kind of joke.
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And then, like, the smoke canister exploded and smoke was
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coming out.
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I was in Theater 8 when everything was going on
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in Theater 9. They were screaming from the right that
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there was smoke coming over. and I looked over and
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I thought they don't they don't play dry they don't
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put dry ice at a movie theater but is it
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part of the movie?
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And then next I see flashes and I looked into
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the flashes four shots in I stared in the muzzle,
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just seeing the flash. I stared at it.
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My friend pushed me down and told me to duck.
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And I did.
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And that's when I realized it wasn't fireworks or anything.
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It was gunshots.
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And the bullets were actually going through the walls?
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Were actually going through the walls.
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Jansen Young's boyfriend, John Blanc, immediately understands what's happening.
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He pushed me down and said, Jansen, get down and
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stay down, and pushed me down behind the seats. And
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I was like, why? And he pushed me down further
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onto my stomach and pushed me under the seats and said,
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because there's a man in the movie theater shooting people.
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And by that point, I could hear multiple gunshots that
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had gone off.
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Bang, bang, bang.
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And the screams were unreal.
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The person above me was screaming, I've been shot, I've
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been shot.
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And even still I was thinking, this has got to
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be a joke.
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Everybody's acting, everybody's in on this and they're getting shot
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with something they don't think is actually bullets. This has
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got to be a joke.
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It was a constant, just non-stop firing.
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But then the firing does stop. The gunman's semi-automatic jams.
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And then all of a sudden it was quiet. And
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we just knew that we had to run during that
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time because... It seemed like he was reloading.
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I jumped over with a friend. I told him, guys,
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we got to go.
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Run, run.
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The gunman, it turns out, is no professional. His confusion
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and delay over changing weapons means many people escaped. but
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they have witnessed unimaginable horror.
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And I could just feel blood running down from the
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seat above me.
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My friend.
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Last thing I heard her say, I got shot. And
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I remember rolling down around on her blood.
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There was a man running like over the seat ceiling.
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Jesse's been shot. Jesse's been shot. And he stepped on
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my head on the way out and like pushed my
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face more into this blood that kept running down. And
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it was running all over my back.
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I could hear someone breathing.
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On my left side, like labored breaths. And that's when
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I think I knew that John had been shot.
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People were just dragging and crawling and running and screaming.
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It was the most horrific thing I'd ever seen.
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There was like so much blood.
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It's not like what you see in Hollywood at all.
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I kind of slid out from under the seats and
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John was unresponsive. I was like shaking him and saying, John,
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come on, we got to go.
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But where is the gunman? Afraid he's still at large,
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Johnson Young hides behind a rubbish bin.
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I heard the police scream freeze to someone. And even then,
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I didn't feel safe.
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I heard people screaming in the back that they got
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him back there.
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Yes, we've got rifles, gas masks.
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He's detained right now.
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I've got an open.
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Door going into the theater.
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It was unreal.
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The people that.
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Young people my age. There was kids there my son's age.
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teenagers and they were shot and they were covered in
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blood and you don't you don't see that in the
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movies and we were in the movies i.
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Need a march core behind the theater.
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Table side the suspect in a gas mask okay hold
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that position hold.
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Your suspect Surrendering without a fight, police discover a young
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man with dyed orange hair staring blankly, declaring, I am
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the Joker. Across town, the University of Colorado Hospital goes
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into its disaster plan. Physician Dr. Camilla Sasson is on
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duty and tells me how the hospital dealt with the
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incoming casualties.
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So we saw 23 patients total, and they came in
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mostly through police cars. And I would say our first 9,
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10 patients that we saw were very critically injured. So
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we had gunshot.
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Wounds to the head, to the chest, to the belly.
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I've been doing this for about 10 years, and there
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were some of the most horrific wounds I've ever seen.
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And it takes a lot to do that to an
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emergency room doctor. So as you can see right here,
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this is actually the ambulance bay where all of our
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patients were coming in. So it was just police car
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after police car that was coming in that night. And
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we would literally take, bring a stretcher out right up
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to here, move it out to the little ambulance bay
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right here, and then take the body out of the
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back of the police officer's car, put it on the stretcher.
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Myself and Dr. Block would assess the patients right here.
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Just two of you? Just two of us would actually
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assess them coming in. We'd look at, see how critically
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injured they were. And then they would literally go to
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the left here, which is our resuscitation bay, or to
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this little sort of mash unit that we had created
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where all of our very critically ill, but maybe didn't
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need to be put on a ventilator, patients would stay.
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As an ER doc, I think I'm just sick and
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tired of taking care of gunshot wound victims. It's just
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really hard to have to take care of patients time
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and time again when we know that they weren't doing
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anything wrong. The fact that we're able to keep 22
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of these victims alive, to me, is really a miracle.
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Back in the cinema, it's selfless heroism that saves lives.
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Four men die because they put their bodies between the
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gunmen and their girlfriends. One of them is Jonathan Blunk,
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He completely.
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Protected me by telling me what I needed to do
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and pushing me under that seat further.
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He knew he was saving my life.
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AJ loved to make people smile. No matter what mood
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they were in, he would always find a way to
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do it. He was a really amazing guy.
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Jessica Redfield, age 24, the intern who dreamed of being
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a national sports broadcaster, dies instantly from gunshot wounds.
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And what about players coming in and out throughout the
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entire season? You get guys that come down from the NHL.
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You can have guys that are coming in from the Coyotes.
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How does that change the dynamic.
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Of the team?
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At the University of Denver, there's a memorial to one
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of their students, Alex Tevez, another of Holmes' victims. I'm
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here to meet one of Alex's former tutors, Max Wachtel.
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So it's the Neo personality inventory.
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He's a leading forensic psychologist who assesses mental health in
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cases of serious crime.
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Nice to meet you.
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Hi, nice to meet you too.
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I want to find out what turns a bright college
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boy like Holmes into a mass murderer.
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A lot of times they tend to have some sort
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of an undiagnosed mental illness. Usually it is something like
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depression or bipolar disorder. It doesn't tend to be a
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psychotic disorder like schizophrenia.
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And why is it that they're often young men?
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I think as a society in the U.S., males are
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trained to be unemotional and to deal with any sort
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of problems on their own without talking about it. That
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ends up a lot of times leading to anger, frustration, rage,
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thoughts of vengeance.
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And is there anything different or special in James Holmes'
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profile that would make him likely to be a killer
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one day?
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You know, honestly, no. Everything that we know about him
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so far is that he was kind of a normal kid,
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maybe a little bit quirky. I think he was smart.
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He may have had a little bit of trouble relating
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to other people because of that. But nothing out of
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the ordinary. It seems like the kind of picture you
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would see taken from a webcam.
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Max also gives me his take on the few pictures
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we have of James Holmes.
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In retrospect, you see the cocky expression, the red hair.
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It seems like a fairly normal kind of picture, though,
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that you would see on Facebook or Twitter, I think.
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This picture, he's got that raised eyebrow. He's got the
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smirk on his face and that very intense stare. I
498
00:29:01.890 --> 00:29:05.240
have to wonder what's going through his mind there. This
499
00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:08.779
was a picture from an adult website he had joined
500
00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:13.440
that he photoshopped this woman licking him. And it's certainly
501
00:29:13.480 --> 00:29:17.359
a fairly disturbing image. He's got that intense look on
502
00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:23.890
his face again. In court, the crazy hair, the jail scrubs.
503
00:29:24.990 --> 00:29:28.349
just kind of blankly staring. His demeanor in court would
504
00:29:28.390 --> 00:29:32.089
be referred to as having flat affect or flat emotion,
505
00:29:32.309 --> 00:29:33.970
meaning just nothing there.
506
00:29:33.990 --> 00:29:34.549
Emotionless.
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00:29:34.650 --> 00:29:35.289
Emotionless.
508
00:29:35.509 --> 00:29:39.089
You do see this presentation in some people who have
509
00:29:39.150 --> 00:29:42.720
mental illness. I think a lot of people are concerned
510
00:29:42.779 --> 00:29:46.660
that he's faking this, and that's certainly possible.
511
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:51.180
In custody, Holmes apparently confesses to a scheme that bears
512
00:29:51.220 --> 00:29:54.950
the hallmarks of his comic villain hero, the Joker. He's
513
00:29:55.009 --> 00:29:58.750
booby-trapped his apartment with 10 gallons of petrol and 30 grenades,
514
00:29:59.230 --> 00:30:14.190
Police also find a Batman mask. It's much easier to
515
00:30:14.230 --> 00:30:16.519
buy guns in the US than it is back home.
516
00:30:17.579 --> 00:30:26.640
But I want to find out just how easy. Jake
517
00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:30.480
Myers runs Rocky Mountain Guns and Ammo, not a place
518
00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:31.529
used by Holmes.
519
00:30:32.349 --> 00:30:33.089
Hi, how's it going?
520
00:30:33.430 --> 00:30:34.089
Good, thank you.
521
00:30:34.130 --> 00:30:35.549
Nice to meet you. My name's Amal.
522
00:30:35.609 --> 00:30:35.970
I'm Jake.
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00:30:36.009 --> 00:30:36.450
How's it going?
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00:30:37.529 --> 00:30:40.369
If Barack Obama is looking for votes, he won't find
525
00:30:40.410 --> 00:30:40.849
them here.
526
00:30:41.289 --> 00:30:43.630
This one here holds 15 rounds of ammunition. A lot
527
00:30:43.650 --> 00:30:47.109
of people like this for carry and conceal purposes because
528
00:30:47.150 --> 00:30:49.609
it's really lightweight. It's made of basically plastic.
529
00:30:49.789 --> 00:30:52.549
Aurora has had an effect here, but not quite what
530
00:30:52.569 --> 00:30:55.410
I was expecting. Jake told me that in the days
531
00:30:55.509 --> 00:30:57.670
after the shooting, sales had tripled.
532
00:30:57.930 --> 00:30:59.970
The first couple days, I did see a real big
533
00:31:00.009 --> 00:31:02.369
influx in gun sales, but what I mostly saw was
534
00:31:02.410 --> 00:31:05.130
people wanting to take classes and learn how to use
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00:31:05.170 --> 00:31:08.970
a firearm or protect themselves. The day after the shooting, actually,
536
00:31:09.009 --> 00:31:12.069
we had about 20 people lined up outside waiting to
537
00:31:12.089 --> 00:31:12.630
take classes.
538
00:31:13.799 --> 00:31:16.220
So if I wanted to buy a gun, how easy
539
00:31:16.259 --> 00:31:19.279
would it be? Jake, today I've brought my passport, and
540
00:31:19.299 --> 00:31:20.619
I kind of wanted to know if I could just
541
00:31:20.680 --> 00:31:21.750
come here and buy a gun.
542
00:31:21.789 --> 00:31:23.690
You wouldn't be able to use just your passport. You'd
543
00:31:23.730 --> 00:31:26.950
have to have some sort of state identification card, either
544
00:31:27.009 --> 00:31:28.309
ID or driver's license.
545
00:31:28.490 --> 00:31:31.089
So if I was American and I had a driver's license,
546
00:31:31.250 --> 00:31:32.670
I could just come into the store?
547
00:31:33.109 --> 00:31:36.039
Yeah, you'd have to have a driver's license or identification
548
00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:37.440
card from this state.
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00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:37.940
Okay.
550
00:31:38.380 --> 00:31:41.220
And it's basically, in this state, we do what's called
551
00:31:41.259 --> 00:31:41.920
an insta-check.
552
00:31:42.339 --> 00:31:42.579
Okay.
553
00:31:43.000 --> 00:31:45.440
It takes anywhere between about five minutes to an hour
554
00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:46.519
to do a background check.
555
00:31:46.900 --> 00:31:47.140
Okay, okay.
556
00:31:47.410 --> 00:31:49.769
They do a federal background check on you to make
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00:31:49.789 --> 00:31:54.059
sure you have no felonies, you're not running from the
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00:31:54.099 --> 00:31:57.640
military or something like that. And then they send me
559
00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:00.019
back either an approval or a denial. And if you
560
00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:01.960
get approved, you walk out of the store that day
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00:32:01.980 --> 00:32:02.500
with a firearm.
562
00:32:07.779 --> 00:32:10.599
But I find that not everyone in this state loves guns.
563
00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:17.539
In April 1999, a school just 20 miles from Aurora
564
00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:24.049
would become forever linked with gun crime. Its name? Columbine.
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00:32:27.529 --> 00:32:30.609
Twelve students and one teacher were killed when two high
566
00:32:30.670 --> 00:32:35.109
school seniors carried out a carefully planned attack. It was
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00:32:35.170 --> 00:32:37.049
captured on the school's CCTV.
568
00:32:38.869 --> 00:32:40.069
Jefferson County 9-1-1.
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00:32:40.329 --> 00:32:42.509
Yes, I am a teacher at Columbine High School.
570
00:32:42.869 --> 00:32:44.230
There is a student here with a gun.
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00:32:44.269 --> 00:32:47.599
The school is in a panic, and I.
572
00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:48.319
Am in the library.
573
00:32:48.339 --> 00:32:51.140
The student's down under the table, kid!
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00:32:51.480 --> 00:32:54.160
Kid's under the table!
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00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:55.180
Who is the.
576
00:32:55.059 --> 00:32:55.799
Student, ma'am?
577
00:32:56.519 --> 00:32:57.779
I do not know who the student is.
578
00:32:57.819 --> 00:32:58.160
Okay.
579
00:32:58.319 --> 00:32:59.799
I saw a student outside.
580
00:32:59.940 --> 00:33:00.940
I was in a hurry.
581
00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:01.880
I was in a hurry.
582
00:33:09.430 --> 00:33:11.509
I want to hear from young people who had picked
583
00:33:11.569 --> 00:33:14.089
up their lives after such a terrible experience.
584
00:33:14.890 --> 00:33:15.799
Hi, Lindsay.
585
00:33:15.930 --> 00:33:16.559
Hi, Mom.
586
00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:17.470
Nice to meet you.
587
00:33:17.650 --> 00:33:21.059
Lindsay Benj survived the Columbine massacre, but two of her
588
00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:25.039
close friends, Daniel Mouser and Rachel Scott, weren't so lucky.
589
00:33:25.819 --> 00:33:29.380
The worst was finding out, you know, that you had
590
00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:34.599
the friends who passed away, for me personally, Dan and Rachel, specifically.
591
00:33:35.220 --> 00:33:35.559
And then.
592
00:33:36.779 --> 00:33:38.440
kind of going through that, you know, there's that whole
593
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:41.460
denial phase where it just doesn't make sense and you
594
00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:43.380
can't wrap your mind around it and then you're just
595
00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:50.150
angry and frustrated and you're going through all the stages
596
00:33:50.210 --> 00:33:53.670
of grief but you don't know how to handle it
597
00:33:53.730 --> 00:33:55.230
and I think at that age you shouldn't know how
598
00:33:55.269 --> 00:33:55.809
to handle it.
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00:33:56.230 --> 00:33:58.849
What do you think about what's just happened a week
600
00:33:58.930 --> 00:34:03.910
ago in Aurora? I mean, it seems to me pretty similar.
601
00:34:04.309 --> 00:34:10.139
Yeah, I mean, it's... surreal. It's almost unfathomable that it
602
00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:14.199
keeps happening. It's like somebody keeps hitting the rewind button
603
00:34:14.300 --> 00:34:16.570
and all of a sudden you're seeing shots of memorials
604
00:34:16.670 --> 00:34:20.389
and shots of family members trying to find, you know,
605
00:34:20.429 --> 00:34:24.360
their loved ones and it's just, it's absolutely devastating.
606
00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:28.639
Why do you think it is?
607
00:34:28.780 --> 00:34:29.340
Why here?
608
00:34:29.420 --> 00:34:30.000
Why again?
609
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:34.019
I think because it can. Everybody wants to pinpoint one
610
00:34:34.059 --> 00:34:38.500
specific reason why. And there's never just one single reason.
611
00:34:39.219 --> 00:34:44.420
You know, guns are far too accessible in the States.
612
00:34:45.469 --> 00:34:51.030
And unfortunately, it's become such a polarizing subject that anytime
613
00:34:51.070 --> 00:34:56.010
somebody wants to have a reasonable, rational conversation about gun control...
614
00:34:56.719 --> 00:34:58.480
It's like people stick their fingers in their ears and
615
00:34:58.500 --> 00:34:59.440
they don't want to hear it.
616
00:35:03.940 --> 00:35:09.389
I've come to see the memorial near the school. It's
617
00:35:09.449 --> 00:35:12.670
now a tragic symbol of how little America has moved
618
00:35:12.750 --> 00:35:16.889
on the guns issue in the last decade. I don't
619
00:35:16.909 --> 00:35:20.909
really know if America's learning a lesson or not in
620
00:35:20.949 --> 00:35:24.880
regards to guns. If you see this and then you
621
00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:27.400
see Aurora and you see all the suffering and how
622
00:35:27.619 --> 00:35:31.980
everyone is distraught, it's just not right. It's just not fair.
623
00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:35.420
And I don't really know to what extent America will
624
00:35:35.480 --> 00:35:39.079
ever change or is going to change. I really don't know.
625
00:35:43.820 --> 00:35:47.699
Daniel Mouser's father, Tom, has spent the last decade campaigning
626
00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:52.469
for tighter gun laws in memory of his son. He's
627
00:35:52.489 --> 00:35:55.610
been shocked by the level of opposition and abuse he's faced.
628
00:35:58.449 --> 00:36:01.230
I ask people to think how they would feel if
629
00:36:01.289 --> 00:36:04.809
it happened to their child. You have to imagine that. Otherwise,
630
00:36:06.889 --> 00:36:09.289
you won't really see what the impact of guns is.
631
00:36:10.369 --> 00:36:12.050
In terms of being part of our culture, I think
632
00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:15.679
there is a sense of, you know, that sense of
633
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:19.380
having a right to bear arms. But it can't be
634
00:36:20.570 --> 00:36:24.239
an absolute right. There have to be restrictions. We have
635
00:36:24.260 --> 00:36:26.619
to keep guns away from people who shouldn't have guns.
636
00:36:27.260 --> 00:36:30.059
We shouldn't be giving this kind of firepower to people
637
00:36:30.099 --> 00:36:31.239
who are mentally disturbed.
638
00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:33.980
How difficult has it been to campaign?
639
00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:38.260
It is very difficult. We're fighting a lobby, the gun lobby,
640
00:36:38.619 --> 00:36:42.900
that is so powerful. It's one of the top two lobbies,
641
00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:45.219
strongest lobbies, in Washington, D.C.
642
00:36:45.619 --> 00:36:47.760
What kind of responses have you had from the more
643
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:49.449
extreme gun campaigners?
644
00:36:50.340 --> 00:36:53.630
It's been difficult at times. You find yourself in America
645
00:36:53.670 --> 00:36:57.010
when you are a gun control advocate, you find out quickly,
646
00:36:57.090 --> 00:37:00.030
especially a very public one like me, that you'll face
647
00:37:00.389 --> 00:37:03.449
some pretty strong and nasty opposition. I've had people write
648
00:37:03.489 --> 00:37:06.960
to me and say, you're campaigning against guns on the
649
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:11.300
grave and the corpse of your son. That's the kind
650
00:37:11.340 --> 00:37:17.510
of thing they say. I mean, it's despicable stuff, but
651
00:37:17.530 --> 00:37:20.860
you know, I can't let that get to me. I
652
00:37:20.909 --> 00:37:23.480
can't let them intimidate me. I have to keep doing
653
00:37:23.500 --> 00:37:24.099
what I'm doing.
654
00:37:39.949 --> 00:37:42.550
I find it confusing that despite so many gun deaths
655
00:37:42.590 --> 00:37:47.400
in America, More than 31,000 in 2009 alone, guns seem
656
00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:50.460
more popular than ever. So I've come back to Lead
657
00:37:50.539 --> 00:37:53.760
Valley Gun Club, the place James Holmes tried to join,
658
00:37:54.099 --> 00:37:56.760
to speak to the owner, a man who trains people
659
00:37:56.800 --> 00:37:58.159
how to fire guns properly.
660
00:37:59.059 --> 00:38:01.059
This is just a representation of some of the firearms
661
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:03.059
that are available in the United States.
662
00:38:03.300 --> 00:38:06.320
This is the closest I've ever been to guns and firearms,
663
00:38:06.739 --> 00:38:09.900
but there's more to come. Glenn believes the only way
664
00:38:10.019 --> 00:38:14.829
I can really start to understand guns is to fire one. A.
665
00:38:14.500 --> 00:38:17.840
22 Western style of the original Western revolvers, but this
666
00:38:17.900 --> 00:38:20.039
is a. 22, one of the firearms you will be firing.
667
00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:24.360
This is a. 38 caliber revolver, which is a double-action revolver,
668
00:38:24.409 --> 00:38:26.389
which is mainly the firearm that was used by most
669
00:38:26.429 --> 00:38:29.170
police officers and people in law enforcement all the way
670
00:38:29.230 --> 00:38:32.650
up until probably the mid to late 80s.
671
00:38:33.190 --> 00:38:35.250
So if you just put that in and then fired,
672
00:38:35.329 --> 00:38:35.949
it would literally.
673
00:38:37.219 --> 00:38:37.480
If it.
674
00:38:37.429 --> 00:38:38.960
Had ammo in it, yes, you'd put it in and
675
00:38:39.079 --> 00:38:42.530
be able to pull the trigger. Mm-hmm. Any firearm, no
676
00:38:42.570 --> 00:38:45.940
matter how small it is, has the capability. And then
677
00:38:45.980 --> 00:38:52.000
the last one here, this is a 9mm pistol that's available.
678
00:38:52.019 --> 00:38:55.449
This is the other firearm you'll be firing today that's
679
00:38:55.469 --> 00:38:59.530
made by Smith & Wesson. There's basically three safety rules
680
00:39:00.050 --> 00:39:02.269
that you follow at all times. The first one is
681
00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:04.739
always keep a gun pointed in a safe direction.
682
00:39:04.780 --> 00:39:05.159
You never.
683
00:39:05.659 --> 00:39:07.820
Never allow the muzzle to point to anything that you
684
00:39:07.860 --> 00:39:10.760
do not want destroyed. Number two rule is always keep
685
00:39:10.780 --> 00:39:13.159
the finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire.
686
00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:15.820
And then always keep the gun unloaded until ready for
687
00:39:15.940 --> 00:39:17.539
use is the third main safety rule.
688
00:39:17.900 --> 00:39:18.760
Well, I think I'm ready.
689
00:39:18.780 --> 00:39:20.219
All right.
690
00:39:20.389 --> 00:39:21.210
It'll be a lot of fun.
691
00:39:21.230 --> 00:39:23.510
You'll find out after you fire it. It's a lot
692
00:39:23.530 --> 00:39:23.829
of fun.
693
00:39:25.230 --> 00:39:28.550
This club is for responsible gun owners and used by
694
00:39:28.630 --> 00:39:29.969
many young, experienced shooters.
695
00:39:30.619 --> 00:39:32.940
Usually we go up to the mountains where there's a
696
00:39:32.980 --> 00:39:35.059
national forest where you're able to shoot as long as
697
00:39:35.079 --> 00:39:39.150
you're away from the road with a proper backstop behind you.
698
00:39:39.170 --> 00:39:42.389
It's just a pure competition sport for me. It's just
699
00:39:42.409 --> 00:39:44.849
like with any other sport, basketball, football, it's just something
700
00:39:44.869 --> 00:39:47.090
you want to get good at. So this gun right
701
00:39:47.130 --> 00:39:50.420
here is mine. This is a Sig Sawyer 516. It's
702
00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:53.780
a AR-15, which is the civilian version of the M16.
703
00:39:54.280 --> 00:39:55.980
Since this is my rifle, I know it very well.
704
00:39:57.179 --> 00:39:59.440
In light of those tragedies, I mean, I have many
705
00:39:59.500 --> 00:40:02.840
friends my age, so the younger generation, as far as
706
00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:04.900
how they feel about it, they definitely want to protect
707
00:40:04.940 --> 00:40:07.360
themselves more. So if they're in that situation late at
708
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:09.380
night at a movie theater or something like that happens,
709
00:40:10.019 --> 00:40:12.420
where usually their defense is off, they'd like to be
710
00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:15.239
able to protect themselves. And a lot of people my
711
00:40:15.300 --> 00:40:19.639
age have gone to get... concealed carry permits so they
712
00:40:19.659 --> 00:40:22.800
can carry handguns or become more familiar with weapons so
713
00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:24.059
they just feel confident with them.
714
00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:28.139
Go ahead, just stay up on top. Go ahead.
715
00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:30.900
Confidence is one thing I don't feel as I prepare
716
00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:33.360
to fire a gun for the first time. But I
717
00:40:33.480 --> 00:40:35.409
am confident I am in safe hands.
718
00:40:37.190 --> 00:40:40.489
We're going to start with the 22. Full arm length out.
719
00:40:42.329 --> 00:40:43.050
Push it all the way out.
720
00:40:43.329 --> 00:40:45.610
See your sights now? Align that sight.
721
00:40:46.309 --> 00:40:46.469
Yeah.
722
00:40:47.010 --> 00:40:47.769
So it's on the thing.
723
00:40:48.010 --> 00:40:48.510
Okay.
724
00:40:48.590 --> 00:40:49.289
Now cock your hand.
725
00:40:49.349 --> 00:40:49.929
Use this thumb.
726
00:40:49.969 --> 00:40:54.110
Cock that hammer. Keep your finger back. Add pressure to
727
00:40:54.139 --> 00:40:56.860
the trigger and it'll go off. Don't squeeze it. Just
728
00:40:56.880 --> 00:41:01.260
start adding pressure. Let the gun surprise you. Steady, even pressure.
729
00:41:02.579 --> 00:41:02.900
Okay.
730
00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:03.280
Wow.
731
00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:08.139
All right. Okay.
732
00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:09.000
It's so heavy.
733
00:41:09.659 --> 00:41:10.639
I like shaking.
734
00:41:10.699 --> 00:41:11.059
Go ahead.
735
00:41:12.820 --> 00:41:13.360
Steady.
736
00:41:13.449 --> 00:41:13.949
That's it.
737
00:41:15.429 --> 00:41:15.630
All right.
738
00:41:15.710 --> 00:41:16.210
Range is hot.
739
00:41:17.449 --> 00:41:20.909
The Second Amendment in the Constitution is for a civilian's
740
00:41:21.130 --> 00:41:24.980
right to spare arms. And as far as that, we've
741
00:41:25.059 --> 00:41:28.619
had guns since our nation's birth, since the American Revolution.
742
00:41:29.860 --> 00:41:34.179
We're trained in them since then. So civilians definitely, as
743
00:41:34.260 --> 00:41:36.059
part of the Constitution, have a right to do that.
744
00:41:37.340 --> 00:41:42.340
Next for me, the more powerful 9mm Smith & Wesson semi-automatic.
745
00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:44.360
Now you're going to have a long, hard squeeze on
746
00:41:44.380 --> 00:41:45.460
this one the first time around.
747
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:46.400
Do I press hard?
748
00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:50.219
Well, just start pressing. You'll feel it. Just keep adding pressure.
749
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It'll start to pull the trigger in a minute. Don't
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rush it.
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Just keep pulling.
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You almost had it.
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Oh, my God.
754
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It's a hard pull on this one the first time around.
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Pull real hard.
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Whoa.
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Okay.
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00:42:05.110 --> 00:42:06.030
Whoa.
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Now, figure out the trigger guard.
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All right.
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Whoa.
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All right.
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Whoa.
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That's it. That's better, you hit a bullseye on that one.
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No, that's where it's supposed to go.
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00:42:23.590 --> 00:42:24.730
That's better.
767
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I guess it gives me a sense of power because
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I know what it can do. It's a different experience,
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may I say.
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See where the holes are?
771
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All of them in the center.
772
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See the difference in size. These are the ones I fired.
773
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That's the 9mm you shot.
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Tiny.
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00:42:47.789 --> 00:42:49.969
There's the. 22 and quite a bit of difference in
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size between the two of them.
777
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I can fit my pinky finger in there.
778
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People have talked about tightening gun laws. What's your view
779
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on this?
780
00:43:01.300 --> 00:43:03.280
My view on that is pretty simple. We had a
781
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shooting here a while back, and the kids that did
782
00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:09.500
it broke 22 gun laws in order to be able
783
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to get the firearms to do it. So 23 is
784
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going to stop them?
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I think this has changed my view slightly, although I
786
00:43:17.480 --> 00:43:21.280
still firmly believe that there should be more gun laws
787
00:43:21.400 --> 00:43:25.090
enforced to prevent things like Columbine and like what's happened
788
00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:28.510
in Aurora. But I do understand where they're coming from,
789
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that this is part of their culture. Guns are part
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of American society. And I think that a lot of
791
00:43:34.190 --> 00:43:37.929
Americans feel safer having a gun, being able to protect themselves.
792
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It's not the gun laws or the guns that caused
793
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the problem to begin with. It's the nut behind it
794
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that uses it. Police can't be every place. They never are.
795
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They were at that theater prior to the shooting and
796
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left because there was no problems.
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Two days after the shootings, President Obama visits the hospital
798
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where some of the victims are being treated. He's photographed
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with eyewitness Stephanie Davis. She's saved the life of her friend,
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Ali Young, who'd been hit in the neck by Holmes.
801
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With the presidential elections only a few months away, I
802
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wonder how big a role the gun debate is playing
803
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on the campaign trail.
804
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Answer?
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Next to none. I've been having a look at several
806
00:44:33.099 --> 00:44:37.690
newspapers and I've looked online as well. All the politicians
807
00:44:38.090 --> 00:44:41.190
seem to have other things to speak about. We have
808
00:44:41.269 --> 00:44:45.079
Mitt Romney speaking about Israel. There's a lot about Obama
809
00:44:45.099 --> 00:44:48.739
here trying to intensify a campaign, heading into the final stretch.
810
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None of them really mention gun control or guns, which
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I find really surprising, especially at this time and after
812
00:44:57.360 --> 00:45:02.050
what's just happened in Aurora. But I still think politicians
813
00:45:02.130 --> 00:45:03.510
should be talking about guns.
814
00:45:03.880 --> 00:45:07.300
The emergency services called after a gunman started shooting at
815
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the congregation.
816
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A week into my trip, there's news of another massacre.
817
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Over 700 miles away in Milwaukee, once again, I am
818
00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:20.820
forced to question my views. I've just been watching BBC
819
00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:23.570
World News where seven people have been killed in Wisconsin
820
00:45:23.590 --> 00:45:26.210
in a Sikh temple. I've been here for seven days
821
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now in Aurora, and this is the second massacre killing
822
00:45:29.690 --> 00:45:34.170
that's been going on. Clearly there must be something wrong
823
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in the U.S. in regards to gun control. And I'm
824
00:45:38.230 --> 00:45:42.530
pretty surprised that no one's really speaking about it. So
825
00:45:42.590 --> 00:45:44.809
why is it that gun control seems to be the
826
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one issue politicians won't touch?
827
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That would be political suicide. In the U.S., in an
828
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election year, when you're running for president.
829
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You don't.
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Say anything bad about guns. If Mitt Romney suggested some
831
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sort of gun control, he would no longer be the
832
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Republican nominee. I mean, the people would freak out and
833
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he would be gone. President Obama I don't think would
834
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get as much political fallout from it directly, but a
835
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lot of Obama's political supporters in more conservative states, more
836
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conservative districts, there's absolutely no way that they would get
837
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reelected if he were to say something about that.
838
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So maybe we just have to press the politicians. A
839
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few days later, it looks like I might get a chance.
840
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With tight security, President Obama makes a second visit to Denver.
841
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I decided this was one party I couldn't miss. Like
842
00:46:45.170 --> 00:46:48.610
all American political rallies these days, the audience is made
843
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up of hand-picked supporters.
844
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As many of you know, I was in Aurora to
845
00:46:52.550 --> 00:46:56.880
meet those who lost loved ones during that terrible shooting. Unfortunately,
846
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since that time, we've had another tragedy in Oak Creek, Wisconsin,
847
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where six members of our community were killed as they
848
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entered into a house of worship. And so I think
849
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we can all acknowledge we've got to put an end
850
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to this kind of senseless violence.
851
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A worthwhile aim, but he doesn't say anything about guns.
852
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It's almost as though guns didn't play any part in
853
00:47:23.460 --> 00:47:39.800
the Aurora killings. This is a pretty staged managed affair.
854
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And try as I might, I don't get a chance
855
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to question the top man. Yeah, unfortunately, we won't be
856
00:47:46.110 --> 00:47:47.880
able to get a word with him, but I would
857
00:47:47.909 --> 00:47:50.260
have loved to ask him what he thinks about guns
858
00:47:50.340 --> 00:47:52.539
and gun control and if anything's going to change or
859
00:47:52.579 --> 00:47:53.260
if anything's going.
860
00:47:53.179 --> 00:47:53.679
To be done.
861
00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:58.059
I mean, he did mention Aurora and Wisconsin, but, you know,
862
00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:09.690
he never mentioned what's going to happen with the guns.
863
00:48:10.150 --> 00:48:13.010
The politicians may not want to talk about guns, But
864
00:48:13.030 --> 00:48:15.849
the authorities have responded, and this is how.
865
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If you were ever to find yourself in the middle
866
00:48:18.710 --> 00:48:22.719
of an active shooter event, your survival may depend on
867
00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:24.199
whether or not you have a plan.
868
00:48:24.739 --> 00:48:27.760
This safety video from the City of Houston Mayor's Office
869
00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:31.260
advises the public on how to deal with an armed intruder.
870
00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:34.429
There are three things you could do that make a difference.
871
00:48:35.829 --> 00:48:36.130
Run.
872
00:48:36.150 --> 00:48:37.650
Hide.
873
00:48:38.949 --> 00:48:39.170
Fight.
874
00:48:39.610 --> 00:48:42.159
In Texas, they clearly think a gunman on the loose
875
00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:44.360
is a possibility worth planning for.
876
00:48:44.780 --> 00:48:47.619
Encourage others to leave with you, but don't let them
877
00:48:47.699 --> 00:48:49.159
slow you down with indecision.
878
00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:52.980
They're clearly stating that, you know, the right to bear
879
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:55.920
arms is something that they're going to keep in the
880
00:48:55.980 --> 00:49:00.079
United States. Therefore, we should do other things in order
881
00:49:00.139 --> 00:49:03.230
to stay protected. But guns are going to be there anyway,
882
00:49:03.349 --> 00:49:06.610
so we better do something in order to save your life,
883
00:49:06.829 --> 00:49:19.070
which is either run, hide or fight. Earlier this week,
884
00:49:19.369 --> 00:49:22.099
there's more confirmed. that getting caught up in a shooting
885
00:49:22.219 --> 00:49:26.900
is a real possibility. Three people are shot dead on
886
00:49:26.940 --> 00:49:30.019
a university campus 100 miles north of Houston.
887
00:49:40.269 --> 00:49:45.250
People versus James Holmes, 12CR1522, appearances please.
888
00:49:46.349 --> 00:49:49.860
Whilst I'm in Denver, James Holmes makes his second appearance
889
00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:54.019
in court. If he's found guilty, what should happen to him?
890
00:49:55.260 --> 00:50:09.050
Some people have called for capital punishment. Colorado is one
891
00:50:09.070 --> 00:50:12.150
of the US states where the death penalty is still legal, actually,
892
00:50:12.969 --> 00:50:15.789
although the last person who was sentenced was 15 years ago.
893
00:50:19.750 --> 00:50:23.269
I'm heading out of Denver, 100 miles northeast of the city,
894
00:50:23.730 --> 00:50:26.070
to see the place where many of the state's serious
895
00:50:26.130 --> 00:50:35.730
offenders are held. This is Sterling Correctional Facility, Colorado's biggest
896
00:50:35.829 --> 00:50:42.519
high security prison. It's a sobering sight. There's three men
897
00:50:42.559 --> 00:50:49.269
in that maximum security prison on death row. Could James
898
00:50:49.329 --> 00:50:53.300
Holmes be joining them? If convicted, could he be sentenced
899
00:50:53.340 --> 00:51:00.239
to death? It's a chilling thought. If James Holmes does
900
00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:06.880
get sentenced, he might be facing the lethal injection. And
901
00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:09.659
is that something that survivors of the dreadful night in
902
00:51:09.699 --> 00:51:11.349
Aurora believe should happen?
903
00:51:12.409 --> 00:51:12.710
Nope.
904
00:51:14.849 --> 00:51:17.010
Not that I'm against the death penalty, but let's not
905
00:51:17.030 --> 00:51:19.280
make life easy for this man. He hasn't made life
906
00:51:19.340 --> 00:51:23.099
easy for very many people. Honestly, I would put him
907
00:51:23.139 --> 00:51:26.480
in general population in jail and say fend for yourself,
908
00:51:26.760 --> 00:51:27.300
figure it out.
909
00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:30.460
I heard a lot of people say that they'd prefer
910
00:51:30.519 --> 00:51:33.780
it if he suffered in jail, rot in a hole
911
00:51:33.860 --> 00:51:41.389
in a cell. My personal perspective is... To be honest,
912
00:51:41.409 --> 00:51:42.130
I don't know what to do.
913
00:51:42.150 --> 00:51:47.610
It really all comes down to how much damage he's
914
00:51:47.670 --> 00:51:56.079
caused and how much punishment he should get. But for me,
915
00:51:56.099 --> 00:52:01.199
I think he should definitely get the death penalty.
916
00:52:02.679 --> 00:52:07.780
I don't know. I have a couple of little things
917
00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:11.039
going on in my head. Part of me wonders if
918
00:52:11.079 --> 00:52:11.699
he wanted to.
919
00:52:11.679 --> 00:52:12.460
Be dead, he'd.
920
00:52:14.239 --> 00:52:17.949
Have shot himself. So part of me says I want
921
00:52:17.989 --> 00:52:20.670
him to fry. just because I know that's not what
922
00:52:20.690 --> 00:52:27.320
he wants. But the other part of me hopes and
923
00:52:27.429 --> 00:52:30.840
prays that God fill his heart with a bunch of
924
00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:32.900
guilt and that he has to wake up in a
925
00:52:33.019 --> 00:52:35.320
4x4 cell every day and deal with himself and live
926
00:52:35.360 --> 00:52:38.739
with it. I think the death penalty is an easy
927
00:52:38.800 --> 00:52:40.940
way out. It's like going to sleep before surgery.
928
00:52:40.980 --> 00:52:41.559
It's peaceful.
929
00:52:41.679 --> 00:52:43.119
He doesn't deserve a peaceful death.
930
00:52:44.199 --> 00:52:45.530
And that's how I feel.
931
00:52:46.179 --> 00:52:47.190
My friends didn't get one.
932
00:52:49.409 --> 00:53:00.420
Why should he? In the days after the shootings, the
933
00:53:00.460 --> 00:53:03.500
people of Aurora come together to offer prayers for the
934
00:53:03.500 --> 00:53:04.800
12 lives that have been lost.
935
00:53:06.179 --> 00:53:09.099
Tonight we come together to pray and to be with
936
00:53:09.199 --> 00:53:16.440
one another. Some of us are survivors, family members, or
937
00:53:16.519 --> 00:53:21.389
friends of those who suffered through this senseless and evil
938
00:53:21.670 --> 00:53:22.530
act of violence.
939
00:53:27.190 --> 00:53:30.090
It's the first step toward rebuilding a community that has
940
00:53:30.130 --> 00:53:33.719
been shattered by that terrible night. But it will be
941
00:53:33.760 --> 00:53:34.400
a long road.
942
00:53:34.420 --> 00:53:42.320
I'm going to do this and I'm going to get
943
00:53:42.340 --> 00:53:46.590
through this. But it's going to be hard forever. I'm
944
00:53:46.820 --> 00:53:48.010
going to be reminded of this.
945
00:53:49.269 --> 00:53:52.789
I'm slowly getting better by the days, but I know
946
00:53:52.809 --> 00:53:55.349
it will come back and haunt me for the rest
947
00:53:55.369 --> 00:53:55.809
of my life.
948
00:53:59.559 --> 00:54:02.480
Others are still coming to terms, not just with the
949
00:54:02.539 --> 00:54:05.199
horror of what they saw, but also with the feelings
950
00:54:05.239 --> 00:54:07.940
of guilt that they survived and some of their friends didn't.
951
00:54:10.409 --> 00:54:13.010
I feel a little bit bad for not helping people
952
00:54:13.090 --> 00:54:13.989
in there, but.
953
00:54:15.630 --> 00:54:51.869
I was scared. I was scared. I've been in Colorado
954
00:54:51.929 --> 00:54:54.590
for two weeks, but my journey is now coming to
955
00:54:54.630 --> 00:54:59.590
an end. Before I leave for London, I want to
956
00:54:59.630 --> 00:55:02.590
take one last look at the memorial and pay my
957
00:55:02.659 --> 00:55:11.800
last respects to the 12 people who died. It's also
958
00:55:11.840 --> 00:55:18.570
a chance to reflect on what my journey has taught me. Well,
959
00:55:18.610 --> 00:55:22.719
guns are something that, you know, Americans and people in
960
00:55:22.780 --> 00:55:26.059
Colorado believe are part of their right, and they have
961
00:55:26.099 --> 00:55:28.880
the right to bear arms. So it's something that they're
962
00:55:28.900 --> 00:55:31.619
not going to let go so easily. It's something ingrained
963
00:55:31.659 --> 00:55:37.389
in their culture. I don't think politicians are willing to
964
00:55:37.469 --> 00:55:40.650
even start with this conversation. You know, it's something that
965
00:55:40.730 --> 00:55:45.289
they've completely blanked. But attitudes for me have to change
966
00:55:45.670 --> 00:55:51.099
in the people. I've realized here, I mean, it's almost
967
00:55:51.119 --> 00:55:54.900
something like America equals guns, and in order to take
968
00:55:54.940 --> 00:55:58.289
that away, it's no longer America, they feel, so it's
969
00:55:58.309 --> 00:56:00.730
gonna be very, very hard. I don't think it will change.
970
00:56:03.869 --> 00:56:07.389
My big fear is that Aurora will change nothing, that
971
00:56:07.449 --> 00:56:10.440
in a year's time, I'll be back, maybe in another
972
00:56:10.500 --> 00:56:14.679
state or another city, reporting on another massacre.
973
00:56:34.030 --> 00:56:37.829
The people we lost in Aurora loved, and they were loved.
974
00:56:40.750 --> 00:56:44.389
They were mothers and fathers. They were husbands and wives,
975
00:56:45.269 --> 00:56:51.960
sisters and brothers. sons and daughters, friends and neighbors. They
976
00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:55.989
had hopes for the future, and they had dreams that
977
00:56:56.030 --> 00:57:01.269
were not yet fulfilled. Life is very fragile. Our time
978
00:57:01.289 --> 00:57:04.070
here is limited, and it is precious.