The Raid: Redemption

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Welcome back to another episode is seen
by scene, a movie podcast where we

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go through movies we love scene by
scene and talk about it. Today I

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was lucky enough to sit down with
Adam fackleman and talk about the rate,

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a two thousand and eleven Malaysian film, really a martial arts masterpiece. I'm

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really excited to have Adam here today
to talk about it once again. The

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first little bits going to be relatively
spoiler free and then, obviously, when

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we start going in scene by seeing, they'll be spoilers for each scene we

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talked about. I hope you guys
enjoy this episode of the PODCAST. All

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Right, Adam, I'm really excited
to talk about this movie actually. So

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why aren't you go ahead and tell
me? I guess. Do you remember

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the first time you saw the raid? I do so. The first time

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I saw the raid was at the
end of my two hundred and five World

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Cinema Class and film studies. Yeah, I had Dr Bows as a teacher

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and for the last two weeks she
told our class, Hey, we can

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vote on the last two films Waing
Wan to watch as long as the world's

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their international films. Yeah, and
this was one of them. I had

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never seen about. We pulled up
a trailer and it looked pretty BADASS and

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convinced everybody. Definitely. The other
film we watch was hot fuzz because it

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was technically British. But yeah,
but this was definitely like the clear favorite

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because, one, it is very
clearly a foreign film, had subtitles and

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all, but it was also way
more action packed and way more interesting.

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Well, I love hot fuzz to
but yeah, this was like I'd seen

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how fuzz many times, I had
never seen this and this just blew me

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away. Yeah, I don't remember. I think I saw this. I

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rented this as a DVD from the
live urry at school, I think.

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But yeah, I remember being blown
away by it. It's just so action

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packed and so different. This like
kind of puts you see like movies.

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They are like action movies, like
the Jason Statham ones, which know not

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shit talking the Jayson say the movies, but these this is truly an action

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film where it's like action tells the
story and it's like a major part of

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everything they do. Yeah, and
the lead gets gets beat up quite a

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bit in this movie, and that's
when the Jason Statham thing I thought of

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when I was rewatching it this time, I was like, one of the

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big differences is this guy is almost
losing every fight he's in and then wins

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it, versus Jason Statham, like
never almost loses a fight. Right.

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Like this guy gets hit this and
he gets hit a lot. I love

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that. It's like the action is
realistic one. He's like all the fighting

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is absolutely over the top, but
it's perfect. But he's also getting hit,

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he's getting injured. He got cut
on the cheek, he's getting kicked,

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he's getting so he's having a like
fight his way and he's not.

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It just shows that he's vulnerable and
he's imperfect. ECOUAS, who plays the

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main character in this. He gets
kicked all the time in this movie.

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Oh yeah, constantly. Did you
guys talk about in the film class,

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if you remember that, it was, who the director and writer was.

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We didn't talk about it because it
was the last two weeks of school,

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but I went on to look at
in. His name is Gareth Evans.

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I was surprised that white guy from
the whales. Yeah, he's Welsh and

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he can speak I don't know what
the language is, but it's an Indonesian

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film, but he could speak the
language perfectly and he's able to direct acts.

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Yeah, all the action and dialog. Well, I was watching because

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you let me borrow the DVD.
I watched one of the behind the scenes

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things on that and he talked about
that he had moved because he wasn't really

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progressing in Wales as a filmmaker and
he got this job to direct a documentary

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about the saline, the fight style
that they use in this. Yeah,

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and his wife is Indonesian, so
he had ended up moving to Indonesia and

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I think he'd been in Indonesia like
four or five years by the time he

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made this movie. That was cool. Yeah, it was a good choice

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on him to relocate. Yeah,
do you have any thoughts or things you

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want to bring up? Before we
get into the actual should like to note

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that this is a very, very
low budget movie, like the budget was

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only like one and a half,
one point three million dollars. No,

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yeah, that's not very expensive at
all. And but they made this look

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so good, like it was a
very running gun style shooting that they did.

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They had the red scarlet, which
was a very, very low,

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level, cheaper red camera and they're
shooting on a fig rig. Yeah,

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just to get all the action shots, but it looked gorgeous. Well,

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wonderfully discussing is how I call it's
very gritty. But yeah, for the

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style, it's beautiful. Yeah,
yeah, I agree. It's the cinematography

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is great in this. It just
goes to show that you do not need

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a lot of money to make a
good looking film. No, yeah,

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and it's cut do way more,
like they clearly were hitting like a thousand

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percent just to with that small,
small budget. Oh Yeah, all the

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all the money's on screen to exactly
impressive. So I guess we can go

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ahead and jump into it now.
Yeah, so it opens up with the

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shot of the watch and the gun. I don't know, it's just cool

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and then I was like it's kind
of a nice watch, which made me

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think he was richer than he ended
up being the character. But I think

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it's just a cool looking watch.
I think it is a cool looking watch.

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I don't know if you seen the
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glimpse of like his home life at
the beginning of that too, because it's

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the same character. Yeah, I'm
trying to remember if, like the apartment

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was like high class and luxury or
if it was just like a middle class.

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Yeah, I mean it seems like
it's a it's definitely a lot nicer

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place that he's living in than the
people that live in the tower. The

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Tower. Yeah, I don't know
what took all of besides, it's ower.

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Yeah, and then so and then
we get shots of him praying and

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working out. HMM, it's still
in the dark, kind of early morning,

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which I think says a lot about
his character. We don't necessarily know

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he's a cop right away, but
we know that he's got a gunny,

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some kind of authority figure or something. He lives a dangerous live style regardless.

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Uh Huh. Jakarta, where this
city where it takes place, and

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I've heard is not a city to
like mess around in. Okay, very

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violent city, and I like all
this. And then he goes and sees

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his wife, when we find out
that she's pregnant. Yep. And then

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we also find out that it's super
early in the morning, which we kind

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of knew because it was dark,
but it was like it's early, like

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you need to go back to sleep
or something he says. And then it's

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like, okay, we get this
guy is a dedicated to his craft in

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his life like he cares about his
wife, he cares about his body shape,

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he's working out a lot and he's
devote like I like the way that

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they subtenly just did the Islam religion
thing in there, like it's not move.

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I mean, I know this is
an eastern movie, but movies that

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reach western audiences don't really normalize it, like, you know, oh,

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he's just a guy following his faith
and believes this thing is. He's not

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a fanatical which is like what we
get mostly in the representations in Western culture.

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Yeah, you you'd think, but
it really isn't like all too important

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in movies. But it's like but
it does add like another dimension to our

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characters, because I can change the
way like they think and feel, but

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they don't have to be like if
you don't believe me, you're center.

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Yeah, yeah, exactly. But
I think it's like a really interesting to

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like see him like workout, and
I think it just shows how how fiercely

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protective he is to preserve the life
he has, which for his a wife,

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his unboard son, and I don't
know if that's like his father or

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Fatherin Law. Yeah, I couldn't
really tell either. I think it's his

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father, because it's obviously his brother
that comes up later. Yeah, and

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he says I'll bring him home.
But yeah, it's not very clear,

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but I think it's his father.
You know, I remember the first time

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watching this I didn't even get his
name and I don't believe they ever say

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his name in the movie. But
the father's name? No, the main

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characters, because they do mention it
in the raid to okay, yeah,

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and that was where I learned it
from. I see it right here.

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It's Rama, but that's on the
IMDB. I don't actually remember, but

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I don't remember anybody's name really that
they mentioned in the movie. I'm just

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bad with name. So, because
I was watching with subtitles on because I

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don't understand the language, they're only
like a few names that I did know.

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It's like Tama, he's like he's
like the boss, the drug boss,

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yet they're going after and mad dog, he's who will see later.

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He's like one of the not the
brother, but he's the other guy.

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Yeah, the younger one, the
younger one are not younger, but shorter

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one, shorter, much more gruesome
fighter. Yeah, so then we get

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the after the like cryptic message of
I'll bring him back. We get the

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raid redemption title, Yep, which
is really cool. I like the image

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is behind the raid, like the
screen is black, but the rage is

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just like basically clear and they've got
that image that we're we eventually cut to

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like behind it. Yeah, that
was a cool, though interesting way to

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do the title. And then we
pull up and we see this Swat van

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and then we go inside the Swat
man and we get this like, I

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guess we're introduced to Jacka, who's
like the leader of the Swat team,

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and then he gives this speech about
basically we're going to go in and kill

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this guy, like it's a hit. It's not even we're not even here

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to arrest him. Yeah, they're
just like there the basic rundown of what

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the mission is and what's at stake. And then we also see a little

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Rama lead character, and then I
forgot the other Swat Guy's name. There's

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really just three or four essential swad
guys, one of whom is not even

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in the van. He Yeah,
which we'll get to that in a in

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a minute when we get to him, but we just know Rama Joka and

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then the guy that gets injured later. Yeah, and what I thought interesting

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was they set up that the dynamic
that they did. I mean that it

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seems like they don't Really Know Each
Other, Rama and the guy that gets

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injured, but they don't like each
other off the bat, based on Rama

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asked a question and then he tells
him to just like shut up and don't

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ask questions. Basically, they get
in a little verbal argument in the bus.

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Yeah, and I guess it's a
Rama is a rookie. That part

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was a made very clear by the
other guy. Will see in a minute.

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Yeah, it's like why'd you bring
rookies on this, on this mission?

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And then so then in the squad
van, after that we cut to

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what did you guys? What did
you say that those name was Toma.

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Yeah, his name was Toma.
So we cut two Tama and his crew

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with him, and then we get
this really grew someome execution type thing,

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and he just goes behind and shoots
the sky and then just walks down the

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line and shoots everybody and then there's
this weird, darkly humorous moment when he

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runs out of bullets. Then he's
like I'll be back, hold us for

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me. Yeah, leaves the gun
there and then goes and then I like

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the close up that they did of
he opens the drawer and it's just a

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hammer and you're like as shit.
But then the drawer opens more in the

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bullets rolled down and you're like okay, cool, but then he grabs the

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hammer. Anyway, they build up
false expectations and fake you out a little

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bit. Yeah, and then they
he you know, bashes his brains in

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with the Hammer. Thankfully, we
cut away like right, yeah, that's

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like a nice little smash. Cut
Back to the van. HMM, just

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says the SWAT team is finishing up
their explanation and they're pulling up to the

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tower. Yeah, well, this
crane shot is actually really cool, where

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we see the van pull up over
top and then they get out and it

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comes down. Yeah, and then
I assume it's like passed off to a

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handheld because then it still becomes the
long shot with the with Joca and Pierre.

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Yeah, why use the character's name? Sorry if we butcher the names.

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Yeah, that's gonna Happen. It's
just gonna Happen, especially with me,

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for sure. So yeah, so
our introduction to why you and then

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they do this walk and talk where, yeah, like you said earlier,

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he's talking about, why'd you bring
the rookies? We've got too many people.

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This is supposed to be stealth or
something like that, and it just

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seems all business talk. I'm not
necessarily suspecting that he's a villain yet.

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I don't know if you are,
but actually I did. The very second

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I saw this guy. I'm like, is this guy dirty cop? I

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feel like he is, because he's
just they're already yeah, and he's not

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dressed as one of the swat guys. Yeah, what is this Guy Doing?

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Not Wearing a helmet, like,
what an idiot? And we're so

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he's just wearing a vest. Yeah, I mean, I guess it makes

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his white hair look cooler, but
he should be wearing Helmetman, know,

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he's literally because of the white hair
and his white sure, he's the the

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wolf among sheep. And then then
we get these like cool just kind of

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moving around buildings with hand signals and
stuff. Yeah, and another part about

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I love about this movie is it
it uses dialog very precisely, like it's

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mostly about like visual storytelling and action. Yes, is kind of like a

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start to that, because we know, like SWAT teams, they want to

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be all stealthy and they do rely
on hand signals, and that's just like

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a small introduction to it, but
does is how they communicate, to split

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off into two teams. One goes
in through like a side door and then

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the others go through the Front Yep. It's kind of like survey and a

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Doricon. Yeah, and then I
like the kind of epic scale this tower

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that we see when he we kind
of see Jack is head pop over the

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corner and then look up and it
kind of pans up with with him looking

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up and we see how big this
thing is and it's like, Oh man,

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this is going to be this is
gonna be a long one, and

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you can assume our our Tama is
at the very top of that. So,

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yeah, that's going to be quite
a battel to get up there,

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and that is an understatement. Yeah. So and then they kind of pull

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up to the door and we get
this lock picking sequence. It's just a

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lot of like visual storytelling and things
being done as opposed to dialogs that here,

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yeah, because you don't really need
it. You can audiences are clever

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enough to put one and two together. It's like OHP doors locked, calling

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a guy. He kneels down at
you probably assume he's going to pick the

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lock. Yeah, sure enough,
he does this thing. He does the

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very same and then we get our
first fog I guess, or guard who

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who doesn't look very medacine. Kind
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Yeah, he he's like he looked
too young to be like actually affiliated,

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but he looks like he's just trying
to break in. Yeah, and

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he's just kind of watching TV and
is guns up against the wall. And

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then there's this really sweet shot behind
him. After Jacka says on the radio

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like take him out or something like
that, we see basically just hands come

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out of darkness and then strangle him. Yep, this is really intense and

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cool looking. It helps that they're
wearing all black, because they can do

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that. If it was like why
you doing that, we would have seen

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him instantly, and we're not so
very stealthy. Can't just come out of

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the darkness and Gotcha. Yeah.
Well, this, this kid, is

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so oblivious to I kind of feel
bad for him, but I mean I

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he's he's working in a bad place. So you know, and you know

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he chose and he chose it.
It's and so then we get our introduction

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to the husband who's got the sick
wife. Yeah, and he's just trying

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to get in and they kind of
use his key to get in, I

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think. But he's just kind of
get in and they pop up behind him

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and the guy that I forgot his
name but he gets hurt later, is

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like really mean to this guy,
throwing him against the wall and telling him

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we can't come in and Blah,
Blah Blah. Yeah, like in this

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sets up more of like the dynamic
between him and Rama, who was very

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sympathetic towards the guy. Yeah,
he can just like judge by the guy's

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clothing that one he's not with the
gang. He's just another tenant. Yeah,

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so he doesn't need to like physically
bid him. He can just calmly

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ask him, like what floor do
you live on? We can get you

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your wife safely. YEA, yeah, out of Yada. I think he's

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very sympathetic to with the sick wife
thing because his wife is pregnant right now

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and like, Yep, obviously you
need at tension and care when you're like

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that, and it's a great way
for to help the audience sympathize with your

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league character. Even more. Yeah, it's like, yeah, this guy's

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a good guy, and then Jaca
basically says, all right, he's your

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responsibility, you know, make sure
he gets up there safe. But then

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when they get in, I think
he just basically disappears. I don't I

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don't think we see him again till
we go to his apartment. Yeah,

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they do establish that there was an
elevator in the building and yet our cops

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they go up the stairs. Oh
Nice, so he might have just taken

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the elevator. Yeah, which I
don't blame him. Well, if they

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get in the elevator they could get
stuck and stuff, and the elevators pretty

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small, because we do see it
later. This is true. So,

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yeah, he probably just take the
elevator and go up. So then we

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get a series of like basically a
montage of a bunch of silent takedowns,

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I guess. I mean they're not
super silent, but they're quiet enough that

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they're not learning the rest of the
people in the tower. Yeah, some

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of these sequences are really cool.
I particularly like the one where they ductate

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the guy's mouth while he's sleeping.
I like that one too. That was

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yeah, really school really liked it. was a very because the other two,

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like think one of them try to
like jump out the window. Yeah,

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and they had like pin him down. The other guy was he was

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awake, but they took him down. Then he's just like I think that

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might have been in the order.
Like guy tries to jump out the window,

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this guy he was like still,
but they still got them, and

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then this guy he was ultimately still. He was sleeping. Yeah, he

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was super sleeping. I think.
I just like that shot because they is

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this the same thing as earlier,
like instead of the hands coming on darkness,

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they just come from out of frame. Yeah, you just see a

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guy sleeping. And then I was
like, oh, he screw. They're

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kind of using the their low budget
further advantage, because probably not enough money

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to like completely light get all the
lights they want, so they just like

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play with darkness. Yeah, and
it works really well. And then they

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the SWAT team comes up the hallway
kind of as a unit, and then

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we are introduced to this little kid. Yeah, and there's a kind of

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like a little stair off standoff and
then Jacka finally is like, okay,

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guys, stop pointing your guns at
him. He's just a kid. We're

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not going to kill him. Yeah, it's our one first time we see

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like Jacob sympathetic or, yeah,
somewhat relatable. It's like, yeah,

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you wouldn't really want to like aim
a gun at a kid. That's that's

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unethical. Yeah, he's kind of
like the audience at this point, like

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all right, we this is getting
it's like, okay, we don't need

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to be that much of a Dick. So, yeah, but then the

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kid runs off and and then,
of course, why you? Yeah,

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just puts his gun back up and
shoots through the door and then shoots the

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kid, but in a second too
late, because we've wouldn't find out that

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that kid is a spotter, yeah, or one of two spotters, and

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he alerts this other kid. We're
looking at images right now, but he's

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like a floor above. He just
yells police split second before he gets shot.

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Yeah, and as far as like
the depiction of this stuff goes,

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I mean it's always tough to kill
kids, yeah, in movies, but

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I think, I mean I don't
know if I necessarily like the Slamo of

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the bullet stuff, but I did
like that it was in soft focus in

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the background, like we are focuses
on the kid upstairs, up top.

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Yeah, when we see this happen
and he's kind of blurry, basically when

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he falls down and stuff, we
have enough visual information to like put one,

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two and three together. It's like, we see why you aim the

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gun. He runs, he stops, the gun fires, goes through the

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door and then we cut to the
kid upstairs. We don't even need to

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see the bullet impacts, but we
know how important this moment is because this

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is the moment where they fucked up. Yeah, and this is also the

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moment when I realized Jacko was a
bad guy. I mean, you knew

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it right away or not, Jocka? Why? I was like all right,

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yeah, there's some ulterior stuff going
on here. And then it's like

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a race to get to the other
spotter, yeah, which is pretty cool.

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Action will run, but they don't
get there in time. Obviously.

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The kid hits the Button and I
think he yells police through the thing.

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Just then Jocka tackles him, but
Jockta like let him go because he realizes

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it's too late, like Tom has
already been alerted. Yeah, and then

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I don't know how you read this
situation, but we get a cut right

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from that speaker, not to another
speaker, but right to Tama, already

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standing there looking at the security cameras. Yeah, which to me I read

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as he'd been watching this whole thing
anyway. Like he like, like.

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I don't think the spotters made much
of a difference. There are so many

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like instances with like the security cameras, like we'll get to them another moment

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later on, where he does pro
that he's been watching this whole time.

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So it's it's a very logical guess
to say that, oh, he's just

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been watching. He's just like,
and I think it does he have food

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and know he's just got his hands
in his pocket. This kind of looks

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like a tray of food and it'd
be funny if he's just like chotting down

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on some like some fries as he's
watching the police raid is building. Yeah,

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well, we do get him eating
a lot, like the one earlier

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before he puts some noodles down that
he was eating out of a bowl before

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he shoots the guys in the head. Probably just a small dutil a show

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like how casual he is at killing
cat. Yeah, it's very casual with

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it. He doesn't seem to carry
like out love. I'll do this between

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some noodles. Yeah, and then
we get him basically calling on the phone

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to get these snipers to get into
position and start taking out the cops that

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are outside, the ones that are
like watching the perimeter, I guess.

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Yeah, it didn't go in.
And then this one is cool, I

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like, with this guy that's like
stuck against the chair, duct taped his

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hands behind his back. Yeah,
and the swap teams kind of walking around

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and looking out the windows and stuff, and he like puts his he gets

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his hands all around his feet and
out of his way, and then we

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get this cool shot that's of the
machete down there and we slowly see his

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hands grab it. Oh yeah,
grab the machette and he, because I

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can be can tell you for one
that it is really hard to control your

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hands when they are tied behind your
back, because you remember from Bobby.

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Oh Yeah, we tried doing that
and I couldn't get into the trunk.

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Oh Yeah, I'm sure it's extremely
difficult. I don't but I wish I

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was that flexible to where I could
aid my hands tied. I can just

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like go under my legs. Yeah, it probably helps that. Maybe he's

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got longer arms, but he's but
also, yeah, heard that, with

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flexibility. But I love this moment
right here because it's just tense. It's

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like it's a slow build up to
the entire blood fest that we're going to

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get in like a minute. Yeah, what I was really impressed about this

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sequence. This isn't just that like
like that battle in the action that that

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goes. I think that Gareth Evans
is a really good director at building up

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the tension. Yeah, and the
slow built before the explosion, like before

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the fights happen, from what I
call like he shoots for the edit.

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He loves to like plan out things
visually so he knows he can get this

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amount of coverage and that that was
especially important with shooting action scenes. Yeah,

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a lot of the gunfire and a
lot of the martial arts that we

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see later on in the film is
all like preplanned, it's all previoused.

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Yeah, so this was probably one
of those those moments where he specifically shot

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sort of like a what do you
call it? A video board? It's

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kind of like storyboard, but it's
just with like standins for actors and you

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actually shoot it. Yeah, like
no lights, no production value, just

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like try to show like the beats
you want to get, yeah, so

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that you know kind of like the
frame and, yeah, what beats and

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what they add together to and then
like on set they can just like bring

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up an ipad or phone and then
show the pictures. Okay, we need

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to get get this sho out of
the machetti under the table. And then

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after, after that sequence, we
get them just mowing down the people in

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the swap band for five guys outside
with just a saw rifles and they just

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blast through there. I thought of
a glorious bastards. There's like that WOM

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oh, yeah, were they just? The three of them are just like

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blasting Nazis as I pulled up.
Yeah, don't want to compare the SWAT

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team to Nazis, but yeah,
no, I'm not compared. Usual,

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it was very similar. Yeah,
because directors of the shot. Just for

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the record, Nazis Suck. The
swatzing are not Nazis, but you can't

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help but notice the visual similarities here
and that scene. Oh, yeah,

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for sure. The yeah, they
just do a good job of maximizing their

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budget with a lot of shots that
make it seem like there's high production value.

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Yeah, I guess they just know
when to bring out the crane.

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Like they got this overhead shot of
the SWAT team getting shot up and it's

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just like, I mean, I
with a one point three million dollar budget,

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they definitely don't have that crane every
day. It's not. If I

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and by you know, if I
had the option to get a crane,

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I would totally get a crane.
Yeah, it's like just Paci, specifically

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well used. I guess it's my
point. And plus they can't really use

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it inside because they're yeah, these
this building doesn't really look like I said,

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it looks like a building. They're
kind of working with what they had.

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No, apparently it's all sets.
It's isn't really. Yeah, every

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single interior of this building is a
set. So they're really flexing that one

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point three million dollar budget. Yep, because I thought they probably reuse like

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the same hallway. Yeah, I
mean I think. I don't think there's

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a lot of sets, but they're. But it's all set, like I

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don't know how many different you know, if they built like one always and

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like had like other rooms on standby, I believe that it was redecorated.

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Yeah, well, they taught they
talked about in the thing. You know

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how this stairways, when they go
up, the stairway has the number of

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the the floor. So that's the
same one and they would just repaint the

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floor. I'll make sense. So
it would. It would just be,

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you know, three and today this
stairway is seven. So then we get

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machette guy. Basically we get this
cool shot of his feet covered in blood.

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So we understand. I mean,
we saw him kill one of the

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Swat guys, but we understand that
he just basically killed all the rest of

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the Shay guys that were in that
room. Yeah, there were other ones

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and he did that with his hands
and violently. And then he's covered in

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blood and he gets to I forget
where he goes. I think he gets

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to the speaker right and calls up. He says like this floor is secured.

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Yeah, this is when we get
Tama upstairs and he flicks off the

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lights basically in the whole building.
MMM, and we see the stairways like

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the lights don't turn off at once, which I thought was really cool.

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They're looking down on the stair away
and we see kind of the floors go

407
00:24:15.500 --> 00:24:19.059
out. So we just see light
leaf and then at this point Jacka and

408
00:24:19.700 --> 00:24:22.019
why you are kind of like,
Oh, we're screwed here. And then

409
00:24:22.099 --> 00:24:26.890
we get Toma over the speaker being
like ever, anyone that kills a cop

410
00:24:26.089 --> 00:24:30.730
gets rent free for the rest of
their life, basically. Yeah, so

411
00:24:30.849 --> 00:24:33.730
he turns the whole complex against him, so they know they're in trouble.

412
00:24:33.730 --> 00:24:36.569
And then I like this sequence where
one of the Swat guys, I think

413
00:24:36.569 --> 00:24:40.519
it's just basically an extra, sees
that the door handle is shaking. Yeah,

414
00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:42.480
points at it and then they all
slowly move over there and get ready

415
00:24:42.599 --> 00:24:45.319
and then it the door handle shakes
a little bit more and than it opened.

416
00:24:45.720 --> 00:24:48.079
It starts to open, and then
the guy that gets injured later,

417
00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:51.880
I wish I knew his name,
but either way, he shoots a shotgun

418
00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:55.509
through the door and then at that
point it becomes an all out basic battle,

419
00:24:55.549 --> 00:24:56.789
from what I understand. Yeah,
there Shou Yeah, from then,

420
00:24:56.950 --> 00:25:00.309
from one floor to the next,
it's just not stop gun fire. Yeah,

421
00:25:00.309 --> 00:25:03.789
there's a bunch of guys with AK's
assault rifles basically above on the floor

422
00:25:03.829 --> 00:25:07.339
below, shooting. And I like
this, with the lights out, that

423
00:25:07.539 --> 00:25:11.420
basically these scenes are now lit by
muzzle flare and muzzle flashes. So so

424
00:25:11.579 --> 00:25:15.339
yeah, so you can't it get
it goes from dark to where you can't

425
00:25:15.339 --> 00:25:18.140
really see anything to when guns are
going flashes of light where you can tell

426
00:25:18.140 --> 00:25:19.859
where you're, the characters are and
where they're hiding. Yeah, and what's

427
00:25:19.859 --> 00:25:23.650
Real, actually really cool about like
all that is the they're using airsoft guns.

428
00:25:23.930 --> 00:25:26.730
Every single one of those are airsoft
guns. They're not actually firing like

429
00:25:27.049 --> 00:25:32.369
blanks. Yeah, so you'd think
like even like a action movie, they'd

430
00:25:32.410 --> 00:25:36.759
use blanks just to fire at nothing
and that would create some sort of illumination.

431
00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:40.559
So it's all just post stuff.
Probably. It's probably a mix of

432
00:25:40.640 --> 00:25:44.279
post and then like they've got some
like they probably have lights flashing in general,

433
00:25:44.440 --> 00:25:47.640
but the light on the gun is
probably post. They probably just have

434
00:25:47.799 --> 00:25:49.190
like some lights on a flicker box. Yeah, it looks cool. And

435
00:25:49.269 --> 00:25:52.750
then we cut to Tom and the
rest of his crew, mad dog,

436
00:25:52.829 --> 00:25:56.990
and do you remember the brother's name, Andy? Andy? So, yeah,

437
00:25:56.069 --> 00:26:00.470
Tom and mad dog and Andy or
upstairs looking at the footage. And

438
00:26:00.589 --> 00:26:03.420
as we're Andy finds out that his
brothers among the swats. Yep, Toma

439
00:26:03.579 --> 00:26:07.819
and mad dog are looking at why
you and Thomas? He's why you and

440
00:26:07.900 --> 00:26:10.940
he's like there's no backup coming,
because I know this is a corrupt thing.

441
00:26:10.980 --> 00:26:12.940
That why he's doing yeah, it's
basically like no, we know we're

442
00:26:12.980 --> 00:26:15.619
safe, we can kill them all. They have a little debate about that.

443
00:26:15.660 --> 00:26:18.769
It's just another gang killing. Yep. So while they're looking at that,

444
00:26:19.049 --> 00:26:22.009
yeah, and he looks at the
other one and sees his brother,

445
00:26:22.250 --> 00:26:23.849
and then we see like kind of
a change in him, but we don't

446
00:26:23.890 --> 00:26:26.410
know that their brothers yet. We
just see that he recognizes that guy.

447
00:26:26.650 --> 00:26:30.849
You can say you can see the
sense of familiarity in his eyes. But

448
00:26:30.410 --> 00:26:33.039
and you say like those are like
a connection between these two or Layla?

449
00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:37.519
Are they like brothers or they friends? Yeah, yeah, I got that

450
00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:38.759
there was a connection, because he
did say I'm going to bring him home

451
00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:42.359
earlier to the Dad. So we
knew that he's going there for somebody and

452
00:26:42.440 --> 00:26:45.160
we assume it's him. But I
still don't know what their connection is,

453
00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:48.710
I guess. And then I like
this more ten and stuff. I like

454
00:26:48.869 --> 00:26:52.710
that we see through the hallway,
like under the door frame. Basically we

455
00:26:52.829 --> 00:26:56.109
see feet walk up to it.
Yeah, and then they realize, okay,

456
00:26:56.109 --> 00:26:59.269
there's guys coming in here, and
then, you know, more gunfight

457
00:26:59.549 --> 00:27:00.900
stuff. Starts happening. Yep.
And then, I think at this point

458
00:27:00.940 --> 00:27:03.900
they make a run for it and
get into the room. So basically the

459
00:27:03.980 --> 00:27:07.220
whole Swat team, or a large
portion of them, run into this other

460
00:27:07.339 --> 00:27:11.420
room and start bordering it off.
It was amazing like in ten minutes they

461
00:27:11.460 --> 00:27:18.490
went from having the upper hand like
stealthily taken down guards and then some loose

462
00:27:18.329 --> 00:27:22.930
goonies, and now they're getting completely
boxed into a single apartment and have to

463
00:27:23.089 --> 00:27:26.210
like barricade them the door so they
can find a way out. Yeah,

464
00:27:26.210 --> 00:27:29.289
and there's not a lot of them
left at this point. There's probably like

465
00:27:29.329 --> 00:27:30.839
ten in there for yeah, in
that room. And we get a great

466
00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:34.599
moment from Rama when he's a no
dialog here. He's just like he starts

467
00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:37.640
like kicking on the floor looking for
a week spot. He lives up a

468
00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:41.839
rug and he's he says one line. He says, throw me the axe.

469
00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:45.230
Yeah, and we, like I
said, one audience could put two

470
00:27:45.269 --> 00:27:48.150
and two together and we know he's
trying to break a home the floor.

471
00:27:48.309 --> 00:27:52.589
Yeah, and then he starts swinging
that axe and they're shooting through the door

472
00:27:52.390 --> 00:27:56.069
that they've got barricaded off and eventually
the guys holding the barricade have to move

473
00:27:56.150 --> 00:28:00.779
because the gunfires just come through too
much. But by this point he's broken

474
00:28:00.859 --> 00:28:03.740
through the the door and I think
JOCA. I'm not really sure who the

475
00:28:03.779 --> 00:28:06.140
first one to jump down is,
but it's not Rama. No, it's

476
00:28:06.180 --> 00:28:08.619
definitely not him. And I like
this because, I mean the whole tension

477
00:28:08.619 --> 00:28:11.059
in this scene is basically just sound, like you can hear them on the

478
00:28:11.099 --> 00:28:14.849
other side of the door, like
ready to break in, but you don't

479
00:28:14.849 --> 00:28:17.369
see them, which is a nice
little you know, helping with your budge

480
00:28:17.450 --> 00:28:21.130
it make its tense. But then
I liked this jump down. As soon

481
00:28:21.130 --> 00:28:22.529
as he jumps down he gets tackled. I don't even know if he hits

482
00:28:22.569 --> 00:28:29.240
the ground before he gets tackled,
like it's possible, but I think it's

483
00:28:29.240 --> 00:28:32.359
a mood point, like it's just
shows that no matter where they go,

484
00:28:32.519 --> 00:28:36.359
they are not safe. Yeah,
the the the people in this building are

485
00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:38.640
all after them and it's a big
building. So but then the rest of

486
00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:42.589
the SWAT team jumps down, including
Jacka, and then are including Rama,

487
00:28:42.670 --> 00:28:45.670
and then we get the camera coming
through the portal, which was cool.

488
00:28:45.869 --> 00:28:51.630
Yep, easily done with, just
like that basic figureag set up, which

489
00:28:51.829 --> 00:28:53.269
yeah, I think it was just
a handoff from a n OP above to

490
00:28:53.470 --> 00:28:56.220
below. Yep, it's right.
Yeah, but it's really effective. It's

491
00:28:56.220 --> 00:28:59.859
cool. Slides right through this hole
with them. They might you know,

492
00:29:00.539 --> 00:29:03.259
they did this on the ray to
where they actually had like some of the

493
00:29:03.299 --> 00:29:06.660
camera operators as a part of like
the scene. So they might have been

494
00:29:06.660 --> 00:29:10.529
dressed up as swat guys. Oh
Nice, so they could actually, because

495
00:29:10.529 --> 00:29:12.809
the camera does move around like in
a lot of sixty, so it would

496
00:29:12.890 --> 00:29:17.730
help. Yeah, and the Ray
too, they did something cool or where

497
00:29:17.730 --> 00:29:21.490
they had a camera perator disguised as
a car seat. Oh Wow, nice.

498
00:29:22.210 --> 00:29:23.130
We ever get to talk about the
Ray to? There's a lot to

499
00:29:23.210 --> 00:29:26.400
talk about in that scene. So
then we get basically they jumped down and

500
00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:30.000
they start shooting and helping out Jocko, who's overrun by like three or four

501
00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:33.079
guys. Then Jacka finally gets the
upper hand and kills the last guy,

502
00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:37.519
and then I think they the thugs
from upstairs break in and start jumping down

503
00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:41.309
and then they start tackling them.
Then this one guy here. You got

504
00:29:41.349 --> 00:29:48.509
a screenshot of that moment. Took
me by surprise this time around watching it,

505
00:29:48.630 --> 00:29:51.869
because it wasn't necessarily him jumping down. They like he didn't even hit

506
00:29:51.910 --> 00:29:53.420
the floor. He just wrapped up
on him and throw him out the window.

507
00:29:55.019 --> 00:29:57.339
But I'll surprised to hear a wilhelm
scream at that moment. Oh really,

508
00:29:57.460 --> 00:30:00.019
that's funny. I'll be honest,
I haven't heard a willhelm scream in

509
00:30:00.059 --> 00:30:03.619
a very long time in movies.
Yeah, it seems like that trend might

510
00:30:03.700 --> 00:30:07.130
be dying out, but so it
was a it was a it was a

511
00:30:07.609 --> 00:30:11.490
wonderful surprise to hear that. That's
funny. I don't I don't pay attention

512
00:30:11.529 --> 00:30:15.369
to it as much. I don't
know. I almost never hear them until

513
00:30:15.410 --> 00:30:17.210
someone points them out and I'm like, Oh, yeah, that is it

514
00:30:17.250 --> 00:30:22.359
gets to get used so much that
eventually it never matters anymore. So then

515
00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:25.640
there's getting shot from up buff so
then they've got to shoot back up at

516
00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:29.160
them, and then the people are
coming and shooting through the door, but

517
00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:33.359
the door in the new floor is
still barricaded and it looks like they're all

518
00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:36.630
kind of basically, you know,
in trouble at this point. Yeah,

519
00:30:36.910 --> 00:30:38.670
so then Ramas like saves the day, comes up with a great idea.

520
00:30:38.789 --> 00:30:42.549
He takes the gas canister out from
under the stove, puts it in the

521
00:30:42.630 --> 00:30:47.670
fridge, pushes it up to the
door, opens the fridge door, throws

522
00:30:47.710 --> 00:30:49.619
a grenade in there, just keeps
it up against the door and it blows

523
00:30:49.819 --> 00:30:53.740
through the door and basically takes everybody
out that's out there. But as a

524
00:30:53.819 --> 00:30:56.700
side effect, it takes almost the
whole SWAT team out too. Like Not

525
00:30:56.819 --> 00:31:00.019
Dad, but they're all, you
know, knock down, knocked out.

526
00:31:00.220 --> 00:31:04.730
It definitely did a lot of damage
to them one way or another. This

527
00:31:04.930 --> 00:31:08.089
was a big action sequence or a
big like sad piece. I guess for

528
00:31:08.210 --> 00:31:11.009
me it's very cool. Yeah,
because this is like because right after we

529
00:31:11.130 --> 00:31:15.170
get like the first scene where Tama, he actually I think the secure do

530
00:31:15.170 --> 00:31:18.000
you feed like cuts out and he
starts yes, see a little bit of

531
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:22.079
worry from him. Yeah, he's
like what the fuck? Basically is like

532
00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:26.200
what happened? And then Andy is
like I think we know who we're dealing

533
00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:27.960
with now, which I can't tell
if he's referring to his brother and he

534
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:32.039
knows that his brother did that,
or if it's just like okay, these

535
00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:33.670
guys are better than you thought.
I think it's more of the ladder.

536
00:31:33.670 --> 00:31:37.269
Yeah, because I don't know if
there's like security feed inside the rooms?

537
00:31:37.470 --> 00:31:40.750
No, I just I was just
wondering. It's a fact, like he

538
00:31:40.829 --> 00:31:44.869
knows his brother's resourceful or whatever.
He probably does, but but either way.

539
00:31:44.950 --> 00:31:47.859
And then, I think, basically
we cut back to the SWAT team

540
00:31:47.859 --> 00:31:52.220
and they're kind of waking up and
recovering from injury. HMM. And then

541
00:31:52.740 --> 00:31:56.579
we get our introduction, I believe, to the Machete Guy, because this

542
00:31:56.740 --> 00:32:00.490
is a difference. This is a
at a different floor. There's a couple

543
00:32:00.490 --> 00:32:05.609
squat guys that are still left and
the machette guy walks up. I like

544
00:32:05.690 --> 00:32:07.490
the way this is done. This
guy, this swat guys, crawling to

545
00:32:07.609 --> 00:32:10.650
like get a gun or something.
He's crawling to safety, basically, and

546
00:32:10.690 --> 00:32:14.730
then we see a foot behind him
and then it's a slope up to show

547
00:32:14.769 --> 00:32:17.200
this guy with this machete that just
takes him out. Then we caught away.

548
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:20.319
But then we come back to the
SWAT team that's in the room.

549
00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:22.680
Oh Yeah, we've clean forgot to
mention that. This guy, the one

550
00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:25.160
who was at odds with at the
door. Yeah, I got shot.

551
00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:31.710
Yeah, just before Rama, he
detonated the gas canister. Okay, so

552
00:32:31.869 --> 00:32:35.309
that's when he got shot. I
didn't actually remember when he got shot and

553
00:32:35.349 --> 00:32:39.269
I assumed that Rama just fucked him
when when the explosion I I I didn't

554
00:32:39.309 --> 00:32:43.309
know that there was a gunshot.
So I think it's they all. He

555
00:32:43.430 --> 00:32:46.019
got shot after he jumped through the
poored all at some point, because he's

556
00:32:46.059 --> 00:32:51.140
downstairs with Rama. Yeah, so
then Rama wakes him up quietly and moves

557
00:32:51.220 --> 00:32:53.059
the chair and is like we got
to go back upstairs. So then they

558
00:32:53.099 --> 00:32:57.220
go back up through the porthole that
they came through before, because by this

559
00:32:57.299 --> 00:33:00.450
point the explosion has made everyone go
down to the floor that the explosion is

560
00:33:00.609 --> 00:33:02.529
on. Right the other guys.
This is where they also split off into

561
00:33:02.650 --> 00:33:06.890
like John, why, you and
one other guy. They they split off,

562
00:33:07.049 --> 00:33:08.089
but they stay in the same floor. They just go to hides.

563
00:33:08.450 --> 00:33:12.130
Yeah, and then we cut to
mad dog and and you walking down with

564
00:33:12.210 --> 00:33:14.880
their crew and and he's like,
I'm going to take the elevator to go

565
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:17.759
to the floor below them and come
up and you guys come from down and

566
00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:22.200
he wants to go alone. Yes, because obviously he wants to Find Rama,

567
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:24.440
but mad dogs like, Nope,
you taking these two guys with you.

568
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:29.509
And then and then we get this
like tense, like almost like horror

569
00:33:29.549 --> 00:33:34.589
type sequence with the machete guy who's
walking around and kind of just like tapping

570
00:33:34.630 --> 00:33:37.190
his machete on the floor, tapping
it on the wall, making these creepy

571
00:33:37.230 --> 00:33:43.380
sounds, and then Jacca and why
you and just another extra, basically SWAT

572
00:33:43.460 --> 00:33:45.339
team guy. Yeah, are kind
of hiding in the spot and they're in

573
00:33:45.339 --> 00:33:47.900
there for a while, just kind
of hiding in this corner. But it's

574
00:33:47.900 --> 00:33:52.180
pretty tense, I thought. And
meanwhile, believe Rama, he's taken are

575
00:33:52.259 --> 00:33:57.329
injured, a guy to find like
some safety for him, like he's that's

576
00:33:57.329 --> 00:34:00.170
right. He goes to room seven
hundred and twenty six, which, yeah,

577
00:34:00.210 --> 00:34:04.049
husband and sick wife. Yeah,
and I'd always wondered if he was

578
00:34:04.130 --> 00:34:07.369
like intentionally going to that room and
all the whole time or not. I

579
00:34:07.369 --> 00:34:10.639
guess it would make sense that he
always was. But during then we get

580
00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:14.960
this like I think this is the
first sequence where we see Rama hand to

581
00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:17.119
hand combat taking people out, because
at this point he doesn't have any guns

582
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:21.000
left, he's lost his shield.
It's time to, you know, fight

583
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:23.159
with your hands. If I'm not
mistaken, I was when I was watching

584
00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:27.469
it my computer, I noticed like
the for the first half of the movie.

585
00:34:27.469 --> 00:34:30.070
It's almost exclusively like gun fighting.
Yeah, for the last half it's

586
00:34:30.150 --> 00:34:35.789
all martial arts. Gareth Evans was
talking about this and the after like the

587
00:34:35.909 --> 00:34:38.260
special features of the DVD, he
was like it didn't make sense for him

588
00:34:38.300 --> 00:34:43.059
to have swat guys fight martial arts
while they had guns. Yeah, and

589
00:34:43.179 --> 00:34:45.219
helmets and stuff. He's like they
have to run out of bullets and run

590
00:34:45.260 --> 00:34:50.139
out of weapons before they would fight
with their hands, and that makes sense.

591
00:34:50.179 --> 00:34:52.570
I think that it just keeps adding
to the and the tension in the

592
00:34:52.610 --> 00:34:55.369
brutality of the movie. Yeah,
it's like a slow increase, but this

593
00:34:55.570 --> 00:34:59.889
this sequence is really cool action.
And then I like the this that the

594
00:35:00.250 --> 00:35:01.929
guy is hurt and then he's got
to like push him up against the door,

595
00:35:02.210 --> 00:35:06.130
like let him go in the middle
of fighting to start fighting these guys,

596
00:35:06.170 --> 00:35:08.079
because at first he's fighting him with
the guy still on his shoulder and

597
00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:13.280
are injury guy. He gets at
a pretty brutal kill. Yeah, walks

598
00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:15.760
over and stay or crawls over and
stabs a guy over and over and over

599
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:20.559
again. Yeah, but basically Rama
takes out like ten guys. Cool action

600
00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:22.670
sequence. I mean I wish I
could break down like the actions beat by

601
00:35:22.989 --> 00:35:25.550
beat. But I'm just not that
kind of person that and I'm not keeps

602
00:35:25.550 --> 00:35:30.349
track of that. So yeah,
and you know, I'm no expert in

603
00:35:30.429 --> 00:35:35.900
martial arts in any regard, but
I can recognize when it looks awesome and

604
00:35:35.980 --> 00:35:37.900
when it doesn't. Yeah, one
thing I really like about this is it's

605
00:35:37.940 --> 00:35:42.860
not like shaky handheld Cam and it's
not a lot of extreme close ups.

606
00:35:42.980 --> 00:35:45.420
Yeah, you kind of just you
you're seeing every movement. It's like a

607
00:35:45.500 --> 00:35:49.179
well choreograph dance that you're seeing the
whole thing off, just with a lot

608
00:35:49.219 --> 00:35:52.489
of blood. I suppose when you
have like really good stunt guys who are

609
00:35:52.570 --> 00:35:55.050
good at fighting, yeah, that
you can just shoot it from a wide

610
00:35:55.530 --> 00:35:59.650
and let them do the rest.
Yes, it's just going to look good.

611
00:35:59.889 --> 00:36:02.329
So then there's this last fight and
Rama steals a gun from this guy

612
00:36:02.650 --> 00:36:06.760
and he shoots and he shoots him. So at that point the sound happens

613
00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:09.679
and the guy with the machete that
was down on the floor below looking for

614
00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:14.760
the other guys, here's the gun
fire. So they head upstairs, leaving

615
00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:16.920
Jacka and the rest of the crew
down there to, you know, be

616
00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:21.630
safe. Rama's knocking on the door
to try and get into the room because

617
00:36:21.670 --> 00:36:24.030
he knows it's the room that the
guy with his wife said earlier, and

618
00:36:24.349 --> 00:36:28.190
there's this kind of really big tension
moment where his wife's like don't let them

619
00:36:28.230 --> 00:36:30.269
in, don't get involved, and
he's not sure, and it lasts like

620
00:36:30.510 --> 00:36:35.099
for a solid minute or so,
like whether or not he's going to let

621
00:36:35.139 --> 00:36:38.019
them in. Yeah, you you're
you're even questioning, like because we barely

622
00:36:38.059 --> 00:36:42.019
see the guy early on, but
you know, because like he had the

623
00:36:42.059 --> 00:36:45.659
one conversation with the other guy and
then Rama treated him like well, he's

624
00:36:45.659 --> 00:36:49.130
not sure who to trust with on
the cops because they all to him may

625
00:36:49.130 --> 00:36:52.130
see him like Dick's. Yeah,
I thought this was a good kid like

626
00:36:52.250 --> 00:36:55.289
relatable character moment. I really enjoyed
this. I did too. It's like

627
00:36:55.369 --> 00:37:00.010
basically right when the door on the
other end of the hallway around the corner,

628
00:37:00.010 --> 00:37:02.760
so they don't see him, but
basically the machette guys get upstairs before

629
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:06.639
the guy like lets him in or
they're like cracking the door and then he's

630
00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:08.000
like okay, I did. I
did want to like to note, like

631
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:14.079
this time watching that as soon as
like they're in the hallway, not looking

632
00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:15.670
down, but they it was like
right when the door closed, so they

633
00:37:15.710 --> 00:37:20.070
can hear it close and they can
start searching the rooms. Yeah, so

634
00:37:20.190 --> 00:37:22.590
they heard that they went through a
door and then I'd like this little hide

635
00:37:22.670 --> 00:37:28.429
held. There's probably there's probably my
favorite scene because it's it's even more tense

636
00:37:28.469 --> 00:37:32.980
than the one before that because,
yeah, just a lot of us set

637
00:37:34.059 --> 00:37:39.139
up and uncertainty and then it ends
with Rama almost getting stabbed, but he

638
00:37:39.219 --> 00:37:44.260
gets sliced. Yeah, she basically
what the scene is. I forgot to

639
00:37:44.329 --> 00:37:47.610
describe it as a Rama. Are
Injured Cop, whose name we keep forgetting.

640
00:37:49.210 --> 00:37:52.289
Yeah, are hidden in the wall
by the husband and our machette Guy.

641
00:37:52.530 --> 00:37:55.449
He comes in, think, thinking
they've got to be in here,

642
00:37:55.849 --> 00:37:59.760
and he immediately goes to this wallly, he knocks pictures off the wall and

643
00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:02.840
he starts stabbing through the wall,
thinking they might be behind it. Yeah,

644
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:07.719
and he's getting closer and closer and
then gets to the point where it

645
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:12.360
just barely slices his his his face. Yeah, and then at this point

646
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:16.190
the guy whose apartment it is saves
them again, basically by like freaking out

647
00:38:16.230 --> 00:38:20.110
and being like stop grabbing our stuff, you looked everywhere, it's fine,

648
00:38:20.190 --> 00:38:22.750
get out, like he kind of
stands up to him. Yeah, after

649
00:38:22.789 --> 00:38:25.869
getting put down right away at the
beginning. And then then he leaves the

650
00:38:25.909 --> 00:38:29.300
machete in the wall. Yeah,
he leaves the machete in the wall,

651
00:38:29.340 --> 00:38:32.260
which ended up being a good thing
for our lead character. And then they

652
00:38:32.340 --> 00:38:36.340
do this really cool thing which I
would have never thought of, which is

653
00:38:36.820 --> 00:38:39.699
Rama puts his fingers up on his
glove on top of the machete to take

654
00:38:39.739 --> 00:38:43.929
away the blood. Yeah, that
was when it comes out such a great

655
00:38:44.090 --> 00:38:47.369
like little attention to detail. Yeah, so after this argument that the machete

656
00:38:47.449 --> 00:38:51.730
guy has with him, he comes
back and pulls the machete out nice and

657
00:38:51.769 --> 00:38:54.449
slowly and all the blood is gone. I mean he doesn't even seem to

658
00:38:54.489 --> 00:38:57.599
check it, but I he would
have noticed if there was a lot of

659
00:38:57.639 --> 00:39:00.119
I didn't blood. I did take
it like a notice. After he pulled

660
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:02.599
out, he's like walking out the
door. You see like a brief glimpse

661
00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:06.239
of machete in a wider shot and
you can see the blood is gone.

662
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:09.230
Yeah, I think it's the sequences
like this that I really that really put

663
00:39:09.309 --> 00:39:13.190
this movie over the edge for me, that it's not just like just a

664
00:39:13.269 --> 00:39:15.469
martial arts action movie, it's also
like a suspense thriller. It's like a

665
00:39:15.550 --> 00:39:21.309
really well like these sections are very
well like hitchcocky and almost yeah, they're

666
00:39:21.309 --> 00:39:25.380
very well shot and directed and paste
to just build the tension throughout. And

667
00:39:25.460 --> 00:39:29.539
then we get this moment where they
have to take the bullet out of the

668
00:39:29.699 --> 00:39:32.340
injured guy and all the guy has
is a butter knife. Yep, it's

669
00:39:32.460 --> 00:39:36.340
really wide butter knife, and he
says something like fuck you, look for

670
00:39:36.460 --> 00:39:37.690
something else, which I thought was
just really funny. I don't know,

671
00:39:37.730 --> 00:39:43.210
there's this this seed is like weirdly
comedic to me, a little moment of

672
00:39:43.289 --> 00:39:45.050
levity even though it's so serious.
I don't know if anybody else felt that

673
00:39:45.090 --> 00:39:51.010
way, but that he's just like, given the scene that we just had,

674
00:39:51.130 --> 00:39:53.719
it was a nice way to just
ease the tension. Yeah, so

675
00:39:53.840 --> 00:39:57.960
then we cut to the elevator scene
and this is where we first get Andy

676
00:39:58.159 --> 00:40:02.199
like actually, we know like he
he's looking for Rama and he's he's probably

677
00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:05.159
going to try and help him or
stuff, but this is the first time

678
00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:07.989
we see him go against his boss
and his crew. Yeah, and he

679
00:40:07.070 --> 00:40:10.230
kills the other two guys in the
elevator and what I like is he slowly

680
00:40:10.269 --> 00:40:14.429
takes out the nine and but he
doesn't do it stealthily. The other guy

681
00:40:14.510 --> 00:40:15.510
sees him and is like what,
what are you doing? But he's just

682
00:40:15.750 --> 00:40:20.070
fasted and is already got his knife
out. And then we cut out of

683
00:40:20.150 --> 00:40:22.619
the elevator and we see the guy
in the apartment looking out and seeing that

684
00:40:22.659 --> 00:40:27.860
they're moving the Swat van. So
basically the the SWAT team doesn't have a

685
00:40:27.900 --> 00:40:30.300
way out now. It seems like
their vand probably doesn't work, and so

686
00:40:30.340 --> 00:40:34.300
they're kind of like trapped here.
And then we get Rama. Leaves the

687
00:40:34.420 --> 00:40:37.409
injured guy in the apartment and he's
walking out and he gets confronted with the

688
00:40:37.969 --> 00:40:42.969
machette Guy in his goonies. Yeah, his crew and he's got a I

689
00:40:43.090 --> 00:40:45.889
believe he runs from them. Yeah, he initially runs from them, because

690
00:40:45.929 --> 00:40:50.400
here were in the screenshots you have. He he's in the corridor and he

691
00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:52.400
throws a guy overboard. Yeah,
that was cool when he throws a guy

692
00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:55.599
over. And then I like that
they were climbing up through these through these

693
00:40:55.719 --> 00:41:00.159
sequences. That was cool. Yeah, we're instead of doing we've been going

694
00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:01.519
up the stairs the whole time and
now they're just like we're just going to

695
00:41:01.559 --> 00:41:05.869
jump up here and climb as a
cool little like quickening of the pace of

696
00:41:05.909 --> 00:41:08.750
the movie, I guess. And
then Rama tries to get into a room

697
00:41:08.789 --> 00:41:13.469
or buddy can't, and then he's
just face too, forced to face these

698
00:41:13.510 --> 00:41:16.070
guys head on. Yeah, and
I love the shining shot and we just

699
00:41:16.110 --> 00:41:21.380
talked about the shining but yeah,
I think that's why I grabbed the screenshot

700
00:41:21.420 --> 00:41:22.260
of him trying to get in the
door and look up, because I'm like,

701
00:41:22.300 --> 00:41:25.139
oh, this is the shining shot. It's really is. I mean

702
00:41:25.179 --> 00:41:30.420
the only difference is the actors not
looking down. I mean, I'm likely

703
00:41:30.460 --> 00:41:34.329
going to steal this stuff shot some
point of my career, multiple times.

704
00:41:34.489 --> 00:41:36.369
Yeah, I'm not going to have
any shame. will be like, yeah,

705
00:41:36.369 --> 00:41:38.809
I got that from the Shining Yeah. So then now he's got to

706
00:41:38.849 --> 00:41:43.329
fight the machetti people up which he
does a surprising, really good job,

707
00:41:43.369 --> 00:41:46.159
like he disarms the First Machete Guy
and then keeps moving. Oh yeah,

708
00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:50.800
by the way, they all have
machetes now. Yeah, it's not just

709
00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:54.320
the one guy. Yeah, T
him and his machete crew. One thing

710
00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:59.639
I really wanted to talk about with
this is probably the most amazing kill.

711
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:04.190
I am my favorite kill in a
movie, which is where he kicks off

712
00:42:04.190 --> 00:42:07.150
the door and he brings together guy's
head down onto the broken door frame.

713
00:42:07.309 --> 00:42:13.309
Oh Yeah, that's disgusting that when
I when we were watching that in world

714
00:42:13.429 --> 00:42:17.699
cinema class, that everybody made some
sort of noise during that moment. It

715
00:42:19.099 --> 00:42:23.059
was yeah, I mean it's crue
some, but it was awesome and it's

716
00:42:23.059 --> 00:42:27.380
such a quick shot too. But
and you can't really see that he's at.

717
00:42:27.579 --> 00:42:31.409
It's a dummy. Yeah, I
couldn't tell the Johnny. I it

718
00:42:31.530 --> 00:42:34.889
was so fast and so gross to
me I was just enough. Well,

719
00:42:35.289 --> 00:42:37.210
yeah, if you watch it like
just that clip like on its own,

720
00:42:37.250 --> 00:42:39.449
you can see that the guy in
the red shirt who he does it to,

721
00:42:39.730 --> 00:42:43.969
like his legs are just like a
stiff as a board. Okay,

722
00:42:44.250 --> 00:42:47.960
but still an awesome shot nonetheless.
Didn't see it coming. Yet the payoff

723
00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:52.280
was a hundred, a thousand times
awesome. Yeah, yeah, there is

724
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:57.159
still there. And then they he
tackles the guy and they go out the

725
00:42:57.199 --> 00:43:00.269
window together and they fall on the
fire escape stairwell and then, I love

726
00:43:00.389 --> 00:43:04.150
this sequence. Rama. GETS UP, gets out, goes through and then

727
00:43:04.190 --> 00:43:07.829
there's two other guys in there.
There's two people in this apartment that he

728
00:43:07.869 --> 00:43:09.909
walks in. Yeah, then they're
probably not GOONI's, but they're definitely like

729
00:43:10.030 --> 00:43:14.300
some crack eys. Oh yeah,
yeah, they're, they're they're definitely on

730
00:43:14.380 --> 00:43:16.780
drugs and their drug he's and he
just stares at him and then he keeps

731
00:43:16.820 --> 00:43:20.900
walking and then he sees the other
lady actively about to smoke a pipe.

732
00:43:21.380 --> 00:43:24.780
That's really just doesn't they don't react. That's so bad things are in this

733
00:43:25.380 --> 00:43:30.530
situation that a cop, a Swat
team member, breaks through your window to

734
00:43:30.769 --> 00:43:34.369
see you smoking crack and he's not
going to react because he's trying to not

735
00:43:34.730 --> 00:43:37.170
die from other people kill trying to
kill him. Yeah, like shooting at

736
00:43:37.210 --> 00:43:39.730
a really cap them up from a
Chitty's. But it's like fine, you

737
00:43:39.809 --> 00:43:44.320
can smoke your crack pipe. I
have bigger concerns at the moment. Yeah,

738
00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:46.039
I almost kind of want to know
what these guys story was like.

739
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:49.800
Did they do they even know that
the place is under attack? Like,

740
00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:52.880
are they so stone that when they
see that swalk Ei there, like,

741
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:54.750
Oh fuck, that's what the R
gonna arrest us? That that's what the

742
00:43:54.750 --> 00:43:58.750
rate of three needs to be.
It's not necessarily just an action movie.

743
00:43:58.789 --> 00:44:01.630
It's just about like two tenants who
live in this building. As a shit

744
00:44:01.789 --> 00:44:07.309
is going down any and it should
be these two people. It's like the

745
00:44:07.550 --> 00:44:10.300
crack addicts. Yeah, it's just
like what is all that noise going on

746
00:44:10.460 --> 00:44:14.900
upstairs? Just like a little window
into their life, I think so.

747
00:44:15.059 --> 00:44:17.780
Then we get Rama walking through this
stairway and they do this really cool thing

748
00:44:19.179 --> 00:44:21.460
where I think it's it might be
on the figure of the steady can't I

749
00:44:21.460 --> 00:44:24.050
don't know what it's on, but
the cameras just just basically tilting back and

750
00:44:24.130 --> 00:44:28.889
forth. It's probably the figure,
because if that's a giant like steering will,

751
00:44:29.010 --> 00:44:32.010
Yes stabilizer, which I wish they
still sold, I would totally buy

752
00:44:32.090 --> 00:44:37.409
one, because it's just super versatile. Yeah, and then so, and

753
00:44:37.610 --> 00:44:40.599
it's going back and forth and then
it it's really disorienting. This was one

754
00:44:40.599 --> 00:44:43.920
of those techniques that I saw that
I was like wow, this, this

755
00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:46.679
really makes me feel like like he's
about to die. He's fucked up.

756
00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:52.320
He's super fucked up, like he's
survived an explosion, his cheek got gashed,

757
00:44:52.190 --> 00:44:55.110
he fought a bunch of machete guys. Yeah, he fell down those

758
00:44:55.150 --> 00:45:00.510
stairs. It was the is for
a protagonist. He is extremely vulnerable and

759
00:45:00.670 --> 00:45:06.030
he has messed up. Yeah,
I mean luckily, well, he gets

760
00:45:06.030 --> 00:45:09.139
a flashback of his wife and then
luckily somebody comes in through the one and

761
00:45:09.219 --> 00:45:12.780
if it was somebody with the machete
or something, you'd probably be dead,

762
00:45:12.820 --> 00:45:15.860
but luckily it's Andy. Yeah,
so andy grabs him. Oh, and

763
00:45:15.940 --> 00:45:19.699
then there seems to be a struggle, but then we see we don't actually

764
00:45:19.699 --> 00:45:22.369
know it's Andy at this point,
I guess, because it's really well framed,

765
00:45:22.409 --> 00:45:24.929
and then Brahma looks and then we
finally get, right before the scene

766
00:45:24.969 --> 00:45:29.809
cuts, a recognition of like he's
struggling at first and then he goes and

767
00:45:30.210 --> 00:45:31.489
seas and calms down. Yeah,
we see that, it's like, oh,

768
00:45:31.570 --> 00:45:35.719
it's probably that guy who was in
the elevator. Yeah, I mean

769
00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:37.199
at this point in the movie I
knew it was Andy based on that.

770
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:40.679
He killed the guy in the elevator
and he saw his picture earlier. The

771
00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:45.559
right. Funny there plenty of story
beats hinted at throughout to kind of like

772
00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:52.630
build up just to this moment.
Yeah, and leave the audience perfectly aware

773
00:45:52.670 --> 00:45:54.630
of what's going on. Yeah,
I just find it interesting that they chose

774
00:45:54.670 --> 00:45:58.869
to tease it a little bit longer
because before they show that it's Andy,

775
00:45:58.909 --> 00:46:05.300
they cut back to Jaca and why
you and the other guy. It seems

776
00:46:05.300 --> 00:46:07.460
like in a lesser movie they would
say that moment almost towards the end where

777
00:46:07.460 --> 00:46:13.260
the two brothers like finally meet up
and team up, but they did this,

778
00:46:14.019 --> 00:46:15.780
none exactly halfway through the movie,
but it just a little after halfway.

779
00:46:15.820 --> 00:46:20.250
Yeah, because there's still so much
story to tell. And now we

780
00:46:20.329 --> 00:46:22.650
cut back to our three cops who
got away. Why you, Jocka,

781
00:46:22.809 --> 00:46:28.769
in our extra MMM. And then
at this point jock is like trying to

782
00:46:28.809 --> 00:46:30.929
find a way out, like we
need to get out, we need to

783
00:46:30.010 --> 00:46:32.280
call back up. And why?
He is like, yeah, there's no

784
00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:36.960
backupcoming, we can't get back up
and it your men are already dead.

785
00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:38.880
And at this point Jaca freaks out, grabs and throws him against the wall

786
00:46:38.920 --> 00:46:42.320
and he's like, basically, you're
not in charge now, I'm in charge.

787
00:46:42.360 --> 00:46:45.079
Yeah, and the captain now.
Yeah, and basically, if we

788
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:47.829
get out of this shit alive,
you're going to have to, you know,

789
00:46:49.230 --> 00:46:52.269
talk to some people, basically,
like I'm I'm going to be talking

790
00:46:52.269 --> 00:46:55.070
to your bosses about this shit.
Yep. So then, as they start

791
00:46:55.110 --> 00:46:59.389
to leave, mad dog comes up. This is first time we see a

792
00:46:59.389 --> 00:47:02.420
mad dog fight too. So Yep. So mad mad dog gets the upper

793
00:47:02.460 --> 00:47:05.780
hand. They do a little fight, but then mad dog's got the gun

794
00:47:05.820 --> 00:47:07.820
and the and jock has got the
knife to him. And then why you?

795
00:47:08.019 --> 00:47:12.860
Just takes off running and Jocka tells
the other squat guy to chase him,

796
00:47:13.019 --> 00:47:17.489
basically like why you in the auxiliary
extra? Yeah, because mad dog

797
00:47:17.570 --> 00:47:22.130
wants this guy all to himself.
Yeah, and then mad dog's crew chases

798
00:47:22.250 --> 00:47:27.849
them out. So it's basically just
mad dog and Chocka here and it leads

799
00:47:27.849 --> 00:47:31.840
them into a nearby apartment. MMM. And this was very slowly like pacing,

800
00:47:31.920 --> 00:47:35.760
like get up, pointing with the
gun, like he's not talking at

801
00:47:35.800 --> 00:47:38.000
all, telling him where to go. And this was like this is really

802
00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:40.679
interesting because mad dog could have just
killed him. But I think mad doc

803
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:44.389
sees it. Okay, this is
the head squad guy. He's like,

804
00:47:44.469 --> 00:47:47.550
I want to take this guy on. Mad Dogs just a cocky motherfucker throughout

805
00:47:47.550 --> 00:47:52.510
this whole movie. I will say
this. I actually love mad dog.

806
00:47:52.110 --> 00:47:54.869
I find him a little good cartoonity
because in this scene he goes like,

807
00:47:55.510 --> 00:48:00.219
you know, I don't like using
guns takes out the thrill. I like

808
00:48:00.340 --> 00:48:06.980
using my hands. Yeah, and
he shows off any ultimately kills Joca in

809
00:48:07.139 --> 00:48:09.739
the scene, but he I just
love it that he's just like so over

810
00:48:09.860 --> 00:48:12.699
the top. That's like, I
don't want to, I don't need to

811
00:48:12.739 --> 00:48:15.690
use a gun. Yeah, I
think he sees as a challenge. He's

812
00:48:15.690 --> 00:48:17.610
like, Oh, this guy might
actually like he knows he's going to win,

813
00:48:17.690 --> 00:48:20.889
but he's like this guy will be
fun, this guy'll be tough.

814
00:48:21.130 --> 00:48:23.170
Well, they also did set that
up like very early on the back in

815
00:48:23.210 --> 00:48:28.119
the van. They're like, they
didn't mention name, like they just said,

816
00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:30.039
like a mad dog who's like a
killer with his hands and feet.

817
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:35.960
Yeah, and then I like the
way he puts the gun down to because

818
00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:37.760
he doesn't just put the gun down, he takes it apart, basically so

819
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:42.230
that at no point in this fighting
somebody who's losing come over and grab this

820
00:48:42.429 --> 00:48:45.269
and needs to be a fair fight. Yeah, he's like it's not happening.

821
00:48:45.309 --> 00:48:47.750
I'm not letting joka get this gun
later and shoot me with it or

822
00:48:47.869 --> 00:48:52.550
me shoot him later, like and
then this big, you know, fight

823
00:48:52.630 --> 00:48:57.659
scene happens and then, yeah,
it's brutal and it's intense. Mad Dog

824
00:48:57.780 --> 00:49:01.099
is just a quick motherfucker. That's
his biggest strength is he's just quick with

825
00:49:01.219 --> 00:49:07.619
his hands and his entire body.
He's able to Jocka. He's like almost

826
00:49:07.619 --> 00:49:09.409
a foot and a half taller than
him, and in Jock is a big

827
00:49:09.449 --> 00:49:13.449
guy. I mean jacket throws mad
dog around at one point, smashes him

828
00:49:13.449 --> 00:49:17.170
against the bookshelf and stuff. I
kind of wish the one thing I wish

829
00:49:17.170 --> 00:49:22.489
I had gotten more in this movie
is another fight with Jaka, fist to

830
00:49:22.530 --> 00:49:25.920
fist, like fight earlier out of
being cool, like on the very wins.

831
00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:30.360
Yeah, because he's he does a
really good job here and it they'll

832
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:31.880
the point of this is like,
Oh, mad dog is so much better.

833
00:49:32.039 --> 00:49:36.480
And I still thought Jocko was a
Badass like prior to this, but

834
00:49:36.519 --> 00:49:37.949
I wish I would have thought he
was even more of a Badass. You

835
00:49:38.030 --> 00:49:42.829
know, yeah, maybe it was
thought of, maybe it was a shot

836
00:49:42.989 --> 00:49:45.070
and they just cut it and for
time. Yeah, I mean the pacing

837
00:49:45.110 --> 00:49:47.309
of this movie is Great. I
couldn't think of somewhere where it would go.

838
00:49:47.469 --> 00:49:52.150
Yeah, exactly. So maybe maybe
if they took out that one scene

839
00:49:52.150 --> 00:49:53.940
and improve the pace. But you
know, I wasn't the editor of this

840
00:49:55.420 --> 00:50:02.420
I but the movie we got is
still amazing regardless. So then we cut

841
00:50:02.460 --> 00:50:06.699
back to a slow moment and this
is where we get the conversation with Andy

842
00:50:06.780 --> 00:50:08.849
and Rama and this is where we
find out that they are, you know,

843
00:50:09.010 --> 00:50:16.289
brothers, and basically they're just kind
of reminiscing and talking about their past

844
00:50:16.409 --> 00:50:19.690
and then Rama's like, you need
to come back and he's like no,

845
00:50:21.329 --> 00:50:24.960
and then they get into a little
bit of a fight because Ramas like well,

846
00:50:25.119 --> 00:50:29.519
not not like a physical argument and
argument. Yeah, there is at

847
00:50:29.559 --> 00:50:32.519
one point and he like grabs him
by the shirt and stuff, but yeah,

848
00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:37.070
it never escalates to anything physical.
But it's like and he's like,

849
00:50:37.110 --> 00:50:39.309
I'm not out leaving because Ur no, Andy wants to sneak him out and

850
00:50:39.909 --> 00:50:44.909
Rama's like, I'm not leaving without
my Swat crew, basically, and without

851
00:50:44.949 --> 00:50:47.309
you too, injured, and you
yeah, and then he tells him about

852
00:50:47.389 --> 00:50:52.059
his kid and basically tries to Gill
Andy into going, and then he's like,

853
00:50:52.139 --> 00:50:54.659
let me get you some clothes that
aren't swak cloths, which, you

854
00:50:54.780 --> 00:50:59.260
know, Rama should have taken the
notts walk list. But I like the

855
00:50:59.380 --> 00:51:02.420
idea of like hey, it fits
it fits me, like this is who

856
00:51:02.420 --> 00:51:07.289
I am. Yeah, it suits
it suits him. Yeah, which comes

857
00:51:07.329 --> 00:51:09.369
back later in a great way,
but also just like kind of dumb.

858
00:51:10.250 --> 00:51:15.130
But but this is the most dialog
we've had in the movie so far.

859
00:51:15.489 --> 00:51:19.000
Yeah, there's there's verrely any dialog. This is like, and this is

860
00:51:19.239 --> 00:51:22.480
probably like the first scene of two
people talking about their feelings to each other,

861
00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:25.519
pretty much like expressing their point of
view of the world to each other.

862
00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:30.880
It's just just a little bit of
a background exposition, which that's the

863
00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:34.269
way dialog should be used in this
movie. It just gives us a little

864
00:51:34.269 --> 00:51:38.550
bit of context to the relationships in
the situation and then they use action to

865
00:51:38.710 --> 00:51:44.150
move the story forward. Yeah,
so then we get Andy and mad dog

866
00:51:44.230 --> 00:51:49.420
at the elevator and he's like,
he's like Jack is not the guy,

867
00:51:49.460 --> 00:51:52.019
because it's the old guy that they
want. Why you? Yeah, and

868
00:51:52.219 --> 00:51:55.539
they have this like kind of like
weird, like school kid argument where they're

869
00:51:55.539 --> 00:51:58.539
like I'm better than you, know, I'm better than you. You messed

870
00:51:58.579 --> 00:52:01.369
up, now you messed up kind
of thing. And we get mad dog

871
00:52:01.730 --> 00:52:05.289
kind of, I guess from what
we've seen before, is mad ducks kind

872
00:52:05.289 --> 00:52:08.210
of the more ferocious guy and and
he's kind of the smarter one. Hey,

873
00:52:08.289 --> 00:52:12.010
didn't say that. Back in the
van there was like mad dog,

874
00:52:12.170 --> 00:52:15.159
he's the fighter, and then Andy
is the brains. Okay, well,

875
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:17.280
yeah, and then we kind of
see it through the scene. But then

876
00:52:17.320 --> 00:52:22.000
we see Rama look out the window
and or the door and see that mad

877
00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:28.400
dog has jacka and then he's like
and then once they go in the elevator,

878
00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:32.829
Rama walks around and finds why you
and the others Wat guy and they

879
00:52:32.909 --> 00:52:36.510
meet up and then kind of he
just fills them in that jock was dead.

880
00:52:36.750 --> 00:52:39.510
And then the other Squak e sells
why you out right away. He's

881
00:52:39.550 --> 00:52:42.510
like, he ran, I had
to chase them. That's why we left

882
00:52:42.550 --> 00:52:46.460
Jocko alone. It's I thought was
was fun. I like that. And

883
00:52:46.539 --> 00:52:51.420
then we cut back and this is
when we get Toma eating again. He's

884
00:52:51.539 --> 00:52:54.860
like slicing an apple with a pocket
knife, huge pocket knife, yeah,

885
00:52:57.500 --> 00:53:00.769
which is like sinister. I feel
like whenever anybody's eating an apple with a

886
00:53:00.090 --> 00:53:04.449
with a knife, you just know
they're a bad guy. Like that's a

887
00:53:04.489 --> 00:53:07.289
movie trope, for sure. That
is a movie d like. I've never

888
00:53:07.369 --> 00:53:10.090
seen anybody do that in real life. Oh, all the most people I

889
00:53:10.210 --> 00:53:15.400
know in real life are sane.
Yeah, under see anybody do it either.

890
00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:16.760
But I've also don't think I've ever
seen a good guy in a movie

891
00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:20.639
do it either. You know,
there there's motherfucker. There is one.

892
00:53:20.920 --> 00:53:25.599
Yeses were Martin Scorsese is gang of
New York. Leo DiCaprio eats a IMPP,

893
00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:30.510
like, of course it's set in
like like the civil war era.

894
00:53:30.710 --> 00:53:34.070
So yeah, like they don't have
really an apple carver in but anyway.

895
00:53:34.110 --> 00:53:37.949
And then this scene he confronts Andy. Well, he tells mad dog that's

896
00:53:37.989 --> 00:53:42.179
not the guy and he's like yeah, so, and he feels kind of

897
00:53:42.219 --> 00:53:45.179
safe. And then he's like so, what do you bring me? Let

898
00:53:45.219 --> 00:53:49.300
me see your hands. They're clean. Yeah, Oh, you didn't bring

899
00:53:49.380 --> 00:53:52.019
me anything, like just kind of
rubbing it. So you did waste my

900
00:53:52.139 --> 00:53:54.969
time. Yeah, and then he
mad dog kicks him in the leg because

901
00:53:54.969 --> 00:53:59.170
I guess he got the q from
the way that Toma was treating because there's

902
00:53:59.170 --> 00:54:01.769
no way mad dog knows what the
security footage is. He just kind of

903
00:54:01.849 --> 00:54:05.289
knows, based on Thomas Tone of
voice, that and he's about to go

904
00:54:05.289 --> 00:54:07.130
down. Yeah, so mad dog
kicks him in the leg and then they

905
00:54:07.210 --> 00:54:12.519
probably have a contingency plan for either
of them? Like yeah, he probably

906
00:54:12.519 --> 00:54:15.440
has one for mad dog to like
a q that he and Toma have as

907
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:17.840
a secrets, like hey, if
I do this one thing, yeah,

908
00:54:17.960 --> 00:54:21.800
you grab him by the neck and
we we take him down. Yeah.

909
00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:25.829
So then he gets stabbed in the
arm and hand and his hand gets stuck

910
00:54:25.829 --> 00:54:30.269
there. And then they're looking at
this security footage and Tom is basically like

911
00:54:30.510 --> 00:54:32.389
telling him, Hey, look what
I saw, and it shows Andy grabbing

912
00:54:32.429 --> 00:54:37.030
him from the Hallway earlier, Grabbing
Rama. So he knows. And then

913
00:54:37.070 --> 00:54:38.820
he's asking what the relationship is,
but then he says later, I don't

914
00:54:38.820 --> 00:54:42.619
care. And I like the Little
Bud at the end of this when he's

915
00:54:42.699 --> 00:54:47.099
like just tell me, like whatever, and Rama's basically are not Rama.

916
00:54:47.659 --> 00:54:51.460
WHAT'S UPPOSE? Name Andy, and
he's like fuck you. That's the end

917
00:54:51.500 --> 00:54:54.130
of the scene. Yeah, and
then we get this cool thing where Rama's

918
00:54:54.170 --> 00:54:59.210
like hiding under the balcony area.
I guess where the stairway is. Yes,

919
00:54:59.329 --> 00:55:01.369
like hiding under there and when a
guy walks over, he like reaches

920
00:55:01.409 --> 00:55:05.449
up and grabs him. Yeah,
why you in the auxiliary extra like their

921
00:55:05.610 --> 00:55:07.519
walk in guys, he's them,
hey, shoot some then rams like I

922
00:55:07.639 --> 00:55:10.960
got you, and he throws him
down the stairwell, yeah, it was

923
00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:15.519
sweet. And then, basically there's
still working their way up the floors and

924
00:55:15.559 --> 00:55:19.000
it seems like they're pretty close to
the top now because they're at where they

925
00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:22.750
make the actual drugs. Yeah,
they're not at the residential part where people

926
00:55:22.750 --> 00:55:25.510
are living anymore, and it seems
like the point. I forgot about this

927
00:55:25.630 --> 00:55:30.230
scene initially because I was like Oh, yeah, like they completely just like

928
00:55:30.909 --> 00:55:32.949
go into like the drug lab,
and the point is not to like seeese

929
00:55:32.949 --> 00:55:37.420
that they just fuck everything up like
to because they don't have their other numbers.

930
00:55:37.460 --> 00:55:39.820
But they can all easily, they
can easily just destroy their operation.

931
00:55:39.940 --> 00:55:45.500
Yeah, and that's a precisely what
they do. Yeah, I like this.

932
00:55:45.619 --> 00:55:50.329
I like that Ramas basically running around
and doing his kng Fu Shit.

933
00:55:50.489 --> 00:55:52.929
But why you? is basically just
knocking stuff over on people. Yeah,

934
00:55:53.010 --> 00:55:57.690
like he's he punches people and like
runs at them and charges them, but

935
00:55:57.769 --> 00:56:00.690
he's clearly not a martial artist,
he's not the he's not winning any fight.

936
00:56:00.849 --> 00:56:04.920
Like he relies on Ramas like step
in at the last moment to like

937
00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:07.320
tear the guy off and beat him
up. It's almost like Rama's the the

938
00:56:07.400 --> 00:56:13.000
main character or the lead, and
the other two guys are just NPC's who

939
00:56:13.199 --> 00:56:15.960
are there to help in a little
bit. Oh yeah, it's like Donald

940
00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:19.030
and Goofine, King of hearts,
or if you have exactly or if you

941
00:56:19.070 --> 00:56:22.150
place Garim, it's like they're the
companion there, your companion who falls you

942
00:56:22.190 --> 00:56:23.630
around. They'll fight when you fight, but they're not going to be winning

943
00:56:23.670 --> 00:56:28.949
anything. Yeah. So then once
they get through the drug thing, they

944
00:56:29.070 --> 00:56:30.789
walk through the Stairwell, and I
think it's the last stairwell to go up

945
00:56:30.789 --> 00:56:35.260
to the top floor. Yeah,
and Rama sees the wind know through there

946
00:56:35.300 --> 00:56:37.699
that somebody's being hang up and beating. I can't tell if he sees,

947
00:56:37.739 --> 00:56:39.539
but I assume he just knows it's
each other. He probably going to tell

948
00:56:39.659 --> 00:56:44.340
by just like the because you can
hear him, yeah, grunting. Oh,

949
00:56:44.380 --> 00:56:46.929
yeah, it's true. He's probably
like putting two and two together in

950
00:56:47.010 --> 00:56:51.809
his head that that sounds like my
brother. I'M gonna go up to this

951
00:56:51.889 --> 00:56:54.170
window. It is my brother.
Yeah, I must go in and save

952
00:56:54.250 --> 00:57:00.519
them. And then we get a
really awesome fight scene that begins, or

953
00:57:00.559 --> 00:57:02.920
at least this is just like the
buildup of a fight scene. Yeah,

954
00:57:02.920 --> 00:57:07.199
I really like this build up where
mad dog just kind of looks at him,

955
00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:10.159
at Rama, when he comes in, and then start slowly backing away

956
00:57:10.639 --> 00:57:16.110
and then letting Andy Down, like
releasing the crank. Yeah, and like

957
00:57:16.389 --> 00:57:21.750
just because mad dog's crazy, mad
dogs like, I mean, he's got

958
00:57:21.869 --> 00:57:24.309
Andy up here. He could just
fight Rama and probably win, but he's

959
00:57:24.309 --> 00:57:29.670
like now I'm a fight both of
you. Yeah, mad dog has,

960
00:57:30.260 --> 00:57:32.659
you know, getting a little bit
of head here, but we are talking

961
00:57:32.659 --> 00:57:36.260
about the fight scene. Ro Mad
dog has the upper hand, like the

962
00:57:36.340 --> 00:57:42.139
entire fight. Yeah, until it
was like, I think until like the

963
00:57:42.460 --> 00:57:45.610
the the window break, yeah,
the light bulb, the light ball brakes.

964
00:57:45.610 --> 00:57:49.809
Yeah, and even after that we
cut to other stuff during the fight

965
00:57:49.849 --> 00:57:51.849
scene, but we can just talk
about the whole fight scene. Yeah,

966
00:57:51.929 --> 00:57:55.289
so I was a whole fight scene. Yeah, and then maddocks so crazy.

967
00:57:55.329 --> 00:57:59.280
Even when he gets that the Light
Bulb Chard stabbed at his neck,

968
00:57:59.599 --> 00:58:02.679
he's still fighting and it seems to
just make him matter, like he doesn't

969
00:58:02.719 --> 00:58:07.199
he keeps going. It's like one
last rush of adrenaline. Yeah, keep

970
00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:10.320
him fighting. I mean and at
this point he's dead, like when like

971
00:58:10.440 --> 00:58:13.829
he's not dead yet, but he's
going to die with that thing in his

972
00:58:13.909 --> 00:58:15.869
neck because you pull that out he's
just going to lose blood. Yeah,

973
00:58:15.909 --> 00:58:20.949
that's got to stay there. So, but it's kind of like mad dogs

974
00:58:20.989 --> 00:58:22.110
like all right, I'm dead,
but I'm killing both of you while I

975
00:58:22.150 --> 00:58:25.550
die, like I'll go down,
I'm gonna Bring you down with me.

976
00:58:25.590 --> 00:58:30.179
Yeah, to a good of good
visual in your minds of what this fight

977
00:58:30.260 --> 00:58:32.179
is like. If you've seen Captain
America civil war, it's like Captain Bucky

978
00:58:32.260 --> 00:58:37.420
gone to town on iron man in
the very end. Oh, yeah,

979
00:58:37.420 --> 00:58:39.699
I could see that. That's what
that's what I was like thinking of,

980
00:58:39.860 --> 00:58:43.730
like when I first saw the that
scene in civil wars, like, oh,

981
00:58:43.769 --> 00:58:45.369
this is kind of like the raid. Oh yes, like the two

982
00:58:45.409 --> 00:58:51.289
brothers are fighting. It's probably inspired
by that very much. There's one shot

983
00:58:51.409 --> 00:58:54.690
that I really like. We're mad
dog is jumping up in the air and

984
00:58:54.690 --> 00:58:59.800
about to land on Jacka and Andy
behind him grabs his foot and just pulls

985
00:58:59.840 --> 00:59:02.039
him down to the ground and it's
done in this wide shot and it looks

986
00:59:02.039 --> 00:59:05.599
like mad dogs just takes it to
the face. They've got to have like

987
00:59:06.599 --> 00:59:09.269
padded floors or something, because it's
one shot and it's really intense. So

988
00:59:10.869 --> 00:59:15.750
I've I've been like really like watching
just a lot of like stump people like

989
00:59:15.909 --> 00:59:19.110
and kind of just looking at it
how they do a stuff. They have

990
00:59:19.190 --> 00:59:22.909
the stuff called insulight, which is
like padding, and they just like lying

991
00:59:22.070 --> 00:59:25.420
all floors and walls with it when
they do stuff like this. Okay,

992
00:59:25.539 --> 00:59:30.500
this way stomach can actually just take
it for real, like they don't have

993
00:59:30.539 --> 00:59:32.099
to like fake a fall, they
can just actually eat it, eat the

994
00:59:32.139 --> 00:59:36.219
floor. Yeah, and not,
you know, loose teeth. And of

995
00:59:36.300 --> 00:59:39.570
course, this is like one thing
to note about a foreign stunt people is

996
00:59:39.889 --> 00:59:45.929
they are more likely just to like
full on embrace the impact. They're more

997
00:59:45.969 --> 00:59:47.849
likely to take a much larger hit. Oh yeah, I mean, let's

998
00:59:47.849 --> 00:59:52.690
be real, this is not a
union job these guys are now having there.

999
00:59:52.849 --> 00:59:57.079
The safety prediction that they're having is
I'm sure Gareth Evans and their crew

1000
00:59:57.199 --> 00:60:00.320
were attempting to be a safe as
possible and I'd like wanted to keep people

1001
00:60:00.360 --> 00:60:04.039
safe, but yeah, they're definitely
don't have the safety regulations they would have

1002
00:60:04.079 --> 00:60:07.909
in then. I think it was
actually the actors, Ecouas, who plays

1003
00:60:07.949 --> 00:60:09.789
Rama, and and the guy that
plays mad, doesn't name, was a

1004
00:60:10.110 --> 00:60:14.309
I think his name is yeah,
yeah, they're the ones who were the

1005
00:60:14.429 --> 00:60:19.070
stunt coordinators on this movie and they
probably did this whole fight. Yeah,

1006
00:60:19.230 --> 00:60:22.539
it's a tous. And then we
get we cut back to why you in

1007
00:60:22.619 --> 00:60:27.019
the middle of this fight? Why
you and his extra and guy and why

1008
00:60:27.099 --> 00:60:30.340
you coming inst like you can just
see the look on his face. He

1009
00:60:30.539 --> 00:60:32.260
is just like he's done with this
bullshit, like he just wants to get

1010
00:60:32.260 --> 00:60:37.250
it over with. He he takes
the gun from that guy and just starts

1011
00:60:37.250 --> 00:60:42.329
shooting anybody in sight. Yeah,
they're just down the hall from from Tama.

1012
00:60:42.849 --> 00:60:45.409
So then they come in and Toma
and Toma reaches, is going to

1013
00:60:45.489 --> 00:60:49.409
reach it's gun. Why you stops
him and pulls him forward. And then,

1014
00:60:49.610 --> 00:60:52.519
this is when we missed it in
that scene earlier. But when when

1015
00:60:52.519 --> 00:60:58.039
Rama meets up with them right before
they go and bust the drugs, Rama

1016
00:60:58.119 --> 00:61:00.400
comes up with the plan, like
the only way out is to take him

1017
00:61:00.440 --> 00:61:04.039
hostage. HMM. So then we
get by you like following through on that

1018
00:61:04.119 --> 00:61:06.389
plane. He's like all right,
tie him up. He gets the other

1019
00:61:06.429 --> 00:61:08.230
squat out of time up and then
he shoots the other Swat Guy. Well,

1020
00:61:08.269 --> 00:61:12.869
just because he's a villain. Oh
No, twizz he's a bad guy.

1021
00:61:13.429 --> 00:61:15.070
Yeah. Well, I mean we've
learned. I feel like we've learned

1022
00:61:15.110 --> 00:61:19.460
that he was a bad guy.
Went in the conversations with him and Jacco

1023
00:61:19.500 --> 00:61:22.460
before Jacca died. I learned he
was a bad guy from the very first

1024
00:61:22.460 --> 00:61:24.260
moment I saw him in the movie. I was like this guy, he's

1025
00:61:24.300 --> 00:61:28.219
just he stands out amongst them.
He's got to be like a dirty cop.

1026
00:61:28.739 --> 00:61:31.019
I think maybe it's probably it's easier
for him to get through without this

1027
00:61:31.099 --> 00:61:35.010
other Swat guy, or he doesn't
want I think what it is is he

1028
00:61:35.090 --> 00:61:37.889
doesn't want witnesses to be able to
say that, you know, he brought

1029
00:61:37.929 --> 00:61:40.730
him in on this corrupt mission and
stuff. So he's just taken out the

1030
00:61:40.809 --> 00:61:45.170
other squat guy, I think,
just basically so there's not another voice against

1031
00:61:45.210 --> 00:61:47.559
him. Yeah, and plus,
like Tama, he knows all about why

1032
00:61:47.639 --> 00:61:52.039
you. Yeah, and we get
another scene like later on, just in

1033
00:61:52.079 --> 00:61:54.360
a little bit here. Will wait
to that, where he just reveals all

1034
00:61:54.480 --> 00:61:59.760
this information. That why you very
clearly knows about. Yeah, I mean

1035
00:61:59.800 --> 00:62:00.670
we can go ahead move to that
scene, because the rest of just the

1036
00:62:00.710 --> 00:62:02.949
fight and I think we've covered it. Yeah, we kind of covered the

1037
00:62:02.989 --> 00:62:07.909
fact that mad dog gets stabbed with
a little light bulb chard and by Andy,

1038
00:62:08.389 --> 00:62:13.789
and then Rama finishes him off by
just opening up his entire neck and

1039
00:62:13.869 --> 00:62:15.820
killing him. Yeah, that's that
was grewsome. That might be one of

1040
00:62:15.820 --> 00:62:19.300
the most cercome moments of the movie
because we linger on it. Most of

1041
00:62:19.340 --> 00:62:22.420
the other violence is quick. Yeah, like I mentioned the door, the

1042
00:62:22.539 --> 00:62:25.059
doorframe earlier. That was a very, very quick shot. This this last

1043
00:62:25.579 --> 00:62:30.289
for like fifteen seconds. Yeah,
like we see, we see the impact

1044
00:62:30.329 --> 00:62:32.250
of it go across and stuff,
but then we cut. Yeah, we

1045
00:62:32.369 --> 00:62:37.130
cut to them going down the stairs, which is why you holding Rama or

1046
00:62:37.210 --> 00:62:40.090
not, Rama, Tama, and
as they're going down the stairs, they

1047
00:62:40.130 --> 00:62:45.880
run into Andy and Rama coming up
the stairs and Fuggin why are you?

1048
00:62:45.960 --> 00:62:51.039
Just shoots at him like a crazy
man because, like he said, he

1049
00:62:51.119 --> 00:62:52.679
doesn't want any witnesses, so he
wants to kill that last why? Guy?

1050
00:62:52.840 --> 00:62:57.840
I don't know what, like why
he was expecting? Maybe he kind

1051
00:62:57.880 --> 00:63:02.110
of expected Rama to get killed because
he's a rookie technically, so, yeah,

1052
00:63:02.230 --> 00:63:07.110
less experienced. But then he sees
him, he's like Shit, witnesses,

1053
00:63:07.349 --> 00:63:10.590
shoots at them. Yeah, well, they just kind of Lose Rama.

1054
00:63:10.590 --> 00:63:14.019
Rama doesn't really say, like I'll
be back later. He just kind

1055
00:63:14.019 --> 00:63:15.739
of stops when he sees that door
and goes in there. Yeah, so

1056
00:63:15.900 --> 00:63:20.019
there. I assumed he probably just
thought Rama was already dead at the point,

1057
00:63:20.059 --> 00:63:22.420
like that's why he's not with them, and I Rama Win with him.

1058
00:63:22.460 --> 00:63:24.619
He might have gotten shot to yeah, he definitely probably would have,

1059
00:63:24.659 --> 00:63:29.210
because he had the gun. He
would have shot Rama first. But then

1060
00:63:29.250 --> 00:63:37.769
we get this like basically exposition dump, but also like the end the movie,

1061
00:63:37.849 --> 00:63:42.360
basically with Toma, basically like insulting. Why you to the point of

1062
00:63:42.440 --> 00:63:45.039
like, I don't know what you
think you're doing. Your bosses told me

1063
00:63:45.119 --> 00:63:47.280
you were coming. I was ready
for this. Yeah, he's like basically

1064
00:63:47.400 --> 00:63:51.760
like you're corrupt, but your bosses
are more corrupt in their corrupt with me,

1065
00:63:51.920 --> 00:63:53.800
not corrupt with you. Yeah,
like, basically, no matter if

1066
00:63:53.880 --> 00:63:57.269
you if you get out of here
alive, your career is over, like

1067
00:63:57.309 --> 00:64:00.150
you're going to get fired either way
or something. It's basically what he says,

1068
00:64:00.190 --> 00:64:01.309
which I don't know if we are
SPEC was to believe him or not,

1069
00:64:01.349 --> 00:64:04.190
but I kind of do because,
like we saw earlier, like I

1070
00:64:04.230 --> 00:64:08.550
said earlier, he was sitting there
looking at the like video tapes before.

1071
00:64:08.829 --> 00:64:12.059
Yeah, and he like for the
first half of the movie he was just

1072
00:64:12.300 --> 00:64:15.940
entirely calm, like he had nothing
to acted like he had nothing to worry

1073
00:64:15.980 --> 00:64:19.340
about. Yeah. So, and
this performance from Tomas fucking crazy. This

1074
00:64:19.420 --> 00:64:23.059
is the craziest part. Even when
he's shooting people earlier, it's not as

1075
00:64:23.139 --> 00:64:29.170
crazy as his like weird smile and
ice that it like wide eyes that he's

1076
00:64:29.210 --> 00:64:32.849
doing here in this scene. Yeah, and you just see why you basically

1077
00:64:32.969 --> 00:64:35.849
like give up life. It turns
out to be a bad thing for for

1078
00:64:36.409 --> 00:64:40.360
a time. I to say all
that because why? You basically just gives

1079
00:64:40.360 --> 00:64:43.199
up and shoots him and is like, okay, I'm going to die anyway.

1080
00:64:43.320 --> 00:64:45.840
And then we get this night,
this great little sequence where he goes

1081
00:64:45.880 --> 00:64:48.000
to shoot himself and he's out of
bullets. Yeah, and then at that

1082
00:64:48.159 --> 00:64:51.639
point Andy and Rama come up and
they're like there's nothing why you can do

1083
00:64:51.679 --> 00:64:55.630
at this point. So he's basically
a captive as well. Yeah, and

1084
00:64:56.190 --> 00:65:00.150
and he gives Rama all the video
tapes, or he gives them something some

1085
00:65:00.710 --> 00:65:04.110
significant. It's an of evidence.
Yeah, and it's actually what I noticed

1086
00:65:04.230 --> 00:65:08.820
was it's not even evidence for this
movie. It's evidence on the corrupt cops

1087
00:65:08.860 --> 00:65:13.420
above this guy I think it's what
sets up the next movie. The reason

1088
00:65:13.500 --> 00:65:15.659
he goes undercover to find the corrupt
cops is based on the evidence that's given

1089
00:65:15.699 --> 00:65:19.300
here. Is what I understand bath
on what Gareth Evans said, although the

1090
00:65:19.420 --> 00:65:25.610
next movie actually is more of an
infiltration of the higher up gang. Okay,

1091
00:65:25.730 --> 00:65:27.969
I mean I I've seen the next
movie, but it's been a long

1092
00:65:28.010 --> 00:65:30.250
time. I just remember in the
documentary he says it was weird thing to

1093
00:65:30.289 --> 00:65:32.809
add on a little tag here for
the next movie. That doesn't really add

1094
00:65:32.809 --> 00:65:36.679
but that's what it I know.
It's specifically like the the written dialog in

1095
00:65:36.719 --> 00:65:41.519
the subtitles is like these are the
information on the cops. Yeah, this

1096
00:65:41.679 --> 00:65:45.920
is his blackmail, basically on other
cops. And then we cut to the

1097
00:65:46.039 --> 00:65:49.230
guy in his apartment with his wife, which is nice to see that their

1098
00:65:49.269 --> 00:65:53.829
life, and he's looking out the
window and he sees he sees the Andy

1099
00:65:54.550 --> 00:65:58.389
Why you, Rama and the injured
guy, yeah, or Andrew Cop who's

1100
00:65:58.590 --> 00:66:01.309
staying with a husband and wife.
Yeah, in seven hundred and twenty six,

1101
00:66:01.349 --> 00:66:04.780
and why you? He's now he's
not handcuff but he's ZIP tied.

1102
00:66:05.139 --> 00:66:10.099
Yeah, it is a good little
reaction him seeing them like basically getting out

1103
00:66:10.099 --> 00:66:13.460
alive, and I don't know,
it's nice. He's the guy that I

1104
00:66:13.579 --> 00:66:15.739
relate to the most, is the
guy with the wife and that in the

1105
00:66:15.820 --> 00:66:17.380
house. I guess in this movie
he is the most just like the normal

1106
00:66:17.460 --> 00:66:19.889
guy, because it's like he made
an impact. If he didn't do what

1107
00:66:19.969 --> 00:66:23.289
he did, they were they want
to got out alive. We all want

1108
00:66:23.289 --> 00:66:27.289
to relate to Rama, but we
cannot fight like he can. That is

1109
00:66:27.409 --> 00:66:30.170
just but this guy, he just
wants to get into his building, probably

1110
00:66:30.210 --> 00:66:32.960
wife or not. Yeah, just
trying to live his life. Yeah,

1111
00:66:33.199 --> 00:66:35.679
he does the right thing when he
kens. And then they get this part

1112
00:66:35.719 --> 00:66:41.079
where we're basically the crux of this
scene at this point is Andy and Rama,

1113
00:66:41.360 --> 00:66:45.199
and it's like is Rama gonna or
as Andy gonna go with Rama and

1114
00:66:45.320 --> 00:66:47.309
leave? And I like that they
throw back the line of like, I'm

1115
00:66:47.309 --> 00:66:50.070
going to stay here for the same
reason you kept your copy uniform. It

1116
00:66:50.190 --> 00:66:53.550
just fits, it's like. And
he's like, yeah, I'm just I'm

1117
00:66:53.550 --> 00:66:56.510
a criminal man, like that's what
I am, this is what I do.

1118
00:66:56.750 --> 00:66:59.550
Yeah, any kind of RAMAS like
they're going to come back to this

1119
00:66:59.590 --> 00:67:01.500
place and they're a tearer to the
ground. It's like, well, we'll

1120
00:67:01.539 --> 00:67:04.980
be gone by then. Yep,
because he doesn't make an appearance on the

1121
00:67:05.019 --> 00:67:09.099
ray to. Yeah, it's not
a long time I've seen that movie.

1122
00:67:09.420 --> 00:67:13.659
And then another crane over the over
the top shot, which they use,

1123
00:67:13.699 --> 00:67:15.650
I guess, basically every time they're
outside, but I like it. Yeah,

1124
00:67:15.809 --> 00:67:19.050
and then the gate closes and we
get the title Cart Again, raid,

1125
00:67:19.130 --> 00:67:24.489
redemption and white and end of movie. Yeah, any big final thoughts?

1126
00:67:25.449 --> 00:67:28.170
That maybe something we didn't cover.
I don't think so. I we

1127
00:67:28.369 --> 00:67:30.119
thoroughly went through like each scene,
and there aren't that many scenes, but

1128
00:67:30.360 --> 00:67:33.719
they kind of do linger on.
Yeah, on them a little bit longer.

1129
00:67:33.920 --> 00:67:36.360
And I also can't think of a
better way to end of the movie,

1130
00:67:36.360 --> 00:67:40.119
because it's like, well, they
kind of they didn't know what situation

1131
00:67:40.480 --> 00:67:44.630
they were getting into and they had
to get out one peacefully one way or

1132
00:67:44.670 --> 00:67:48.349
another. Yeah, and this is
peaceful as they could with few fewer guys.

1133
00:67:48.949 --> 00:67:51.750
So you do you like? Do
you like Andy Staying? Would you

1134
00:67:51.789 --> 00:67:56.630
rather the Hollywood cliche ending, which
would have been andy leaves with him and

1135
00:67:56.750 --> 00:68:00.460
then we cut the Thanksgiving these he
sees the error of his ways. Yeah,

1136
00:68:00.300 --> 00:68:05.179
I am perfectly okay with Andy's ending, but I can. You can

1137
00:68:05.219 --> 00:68:10.260
definitely see there's a little bit more, even more mutual respect between Andy and

1138
00:68:10.260 --> 00:68:14.329
Rama at the end, because now
they're kind of like able to not necessarily

1139
00:68:14.369 --> 00:68:17.369
accept but understand why the other is
staying. Yeah, where they are is

1140
00:68:17.449 --> 00:68:20.010
this? I mean, I haven't
seen I've seen the sequel. I've seen

1141
00:68:20.210 --> 00:68:24.489
both these movies. It's been year
since I've seen them outside of rewatching this

1142
00:68:24.649 --> 00:68:27.920
for the podcast. Which one do
you like better? The first one of

1143
00:68:27.920 --> 00:68:30.760
the time? Who? That's a
tough one. I might have to give

1144
00:68:30.800 --> 00:68:34.560
the edge to the Ray. Two
US just slightly. Okay, but for

1145
00:68:34.760 --> 00:68:39.600
different reasons. I this one is
much more of an action movie and the

1146
00:68:39.680 --> 00:68:45.430
other one is more of a drama
thriller with Amazing Action Scene Sprinkled throughout.

1147
00:68:45.510 --> 00:68:47.869
But yeah, one there is nonstop
action. Yeah, the other ones more

1148
00:68:47.909 --> 00:68:50.949
of like a cop, like a
departed kind of exactly. Yes, like

1149
00:68:50.989 --> 00:68:56.100
the departed. And for an all
the face that they definitely had a much

1150
00:68:56.100 --> 00:69:00.539
bigger budget for the ray to because
the rate the raid redemption did so well.

1151
00:69:00.859 --> 00:69:04.300
Yeah, yeah, I could see
that. And then and I from

1152
00:69:04.380 --> 00:69:09.420
what I understand is that Gareth Evans
originally wanted to do a prison story like

1153
00:69:09.819 --> 00:69:13.529
a guy has to go to prison
and infiltrate the mob some way, which

1154
00:69:13.890 --> 00:69:15.850
he could. Okay, but the
budget he was get of it given was

1155
00:69:15.970 --> 00:69:19.689
far too low. So we came
up with this much instead. Say,

1156
00:69:19.890 --> 00:69:24.399
okay, and his original story became
the Ray to. Okay, Gotcha.

1157
00:69:24.520 --> 00:69:28.000
Yeah, so he yeah. Yeah, so he'd pitched the the rate to,

1158
00:69:28.239 --> 00:69:30.560
I guess, without them being the
same characters and the braid tie in.

1159
00:69:30.840 --> 00:69:34.560
Yeah, pitch that story and then
couldn't get a financing for it.

1160
00:69:34.680 --> 00:69:38.789
He couldn't get the budget he wanted
for a prison drama. Yeah, he

1161
00:69:38.909 --> 00:69:42.750
was able to get one for,
I guess, a Swat Swat raid.

1162
00:69:42.989 --> 00:69:45.670
Yeah. Well, it's all one
location. It's all set work, basically,

1163
00:69:45.710 --> 00:69:51.189
except for a few exteriors. Yeah. Yeah, and they yeah,

1164
00:69:51.350 --> 00:69:56.899
they do a really good job with
the with the sats and showing the money

1165
00:69:56.979 --> 00:70:00.340
on screen and stuff and it.
Yeah, I don't know if I have

1166
00:70:00.420 --> 00:70:03.180
any other thoughts. What about you? Not Really. There is one thing

1167
00:70:03.220 --> 00:70:05.819
I did want to say, like
I watch, I was watching like a

1168
00:70:06.890 --> 00:70:11.930
video recently that it was like stunt
guys breaking down like other stunt scenes,

1169
00:70:11.970 --> 00:70:15.970
and they talked about some of this
stuff and one thing they wanted to know

1170
00:70:15.090 --> 00:70:19.649
it was that there's like this move
that the when they're doing martial arts,

1171
00:70:19.689 --> 00:70:24.039
where you see like their arms like
flailing around like in between moves. Yeah,

1172
00:70:24.079 --> 00:70:28.039
they say that is a bit cliche
for like action because it's like giving

1173
00:70:28.680 --> 00:70:31.039
movement where there should be like a
kind of like give. How do I

1174
00:70:31.119 --> 00:70:35.550
describe it's like adding more beats to
that in between where there could be like

1175
00:70:35.670 --> 00:70:41.310
hits. Yeah, but from what
I understand is that the martial arts style

1176
00:70:41.390 --> 00:70:43.869
that they use in the film,
that's part of the art. Yeah,

1177
00:70:45.109 --> 00:70:47.029
which makes more sense to me.
And I kind of like the hands like

1178
00:70:47.149 --> 00:70:53.380
flailing around in between hits because it
kind of shows that he's always kind of

1179
00:70:53.420 --> 00:70:57.300
gives the fighter a more advantage,
like Oh, wherever the arm comes,

1180
00:70:57.380 --> 00:71:00.619
like his hand will be there and
ready to like swipe it or to go.

1181
00:71:00.779 --> 00:71:03.180
Yeah, ready to go exactly.
So that's something to know. Is

1182
00:71:03.220 --> 00:71:06.449
Like when you watch like Rama like
fighting all the machete guys, that his

1183
00:71:06.810 --> 00:71:13.090
hands are always just flailing about constantly. But then of course you see you

1184
00:71:13.170 --> 00:71:15.729
see like action scenes where they don't
have that. It just looks like stunt

1185
00:71:15.770 --> 00:71:19.359
guys are standing around waiting for the
guy to hit go for them and hit

1186
00:71:19.439 --> 00:71:24.319
them. Yeah, where they could
have benefited from those arms failing rather than

1187
00:71:24.399 --> 00:71:27.720
just like stand around look awkward.
Yeah, but this movie is just a

1188
00:71:27.840 --> 00:71:30.920
mare val with stunts. Oh,
yeah, it's great stunts and it's great.

1189
00:71:30.960 --> 00:71:35.270
It's got a lot of good visual
storytelling, like in the moment aspect,

1190
00:71:35.430 --> 00:71:39.869
like scenes are very well constructed.
Yeah, it's one of the not

1191
00:71:39.989 --> 00:71:43.829
many action movies use the action to
tell a story. Like there's a reason

1192
00:71:44.149 --> 00:71:46.300
they have to fight hand to hand
or reason they stop using the guns.

1193
00:71:46.340 --> 00:71:49.899
Yeah, they give purpose to all
that. Where's it seems like a movie

1194
00:71:49.979 --> 00:71:54.460
like commando. They're just like gum
Hoe. I'll screws all the guns,

1195
00:71:54.500 --> 00:71:58.060
all the explosives all at once because
it looks cool. Yeah, I've never

1196
00:71:58.100 --> 00:72:00.609
seen commando and I don't I honestly
don't really watch a lot of like these

1197
00:72:00.649 --> 00:72:03.090
kind of like action movies, I
guess. I mean I want a decent

1198
00:72:03.130 --> 00:72:05.449
amount, but I don't watch a
lot of them. This is one of

1199
00:72:05.489 --> 00:72:09.529
the few. If you're not really
really into action, you'll you'll understand this

1200
00:72:09.689 --> 00:72:13.810
is one to watch because they they
do use it very yeah, I mean

1201
00:72:13.890 --> 00:72:15.920
this is a clear use for it. Yeah, this is a nonstop thrill

1202
00:72:15.960 --> 00:72:18.640
right, to like I like we
were saying. There's the one scene at

1203
00:72:18.680 --> 00:72:23.119
the beginning of the movie with his
wife, yeah, and working out and

1204
00:72:23.800 --> 00:72:26.119
praying and then talking to his dad, and then after that it's go,

1205
00:72:26.279 --> 00:72:29.760
go, go, pretty much like
there's really knows. The only other stop

1206
00:72:29.840 --> 00:72:32.270
is the scene with his brother.
That's the only other like breathable, slow

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moment. There's like real there's a
few of them. Yeah, then the

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other one would be like Tama and
why you just talking on the stairs?

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Oh, yeah, I guess so, because that feels like a climax to

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me, though it doesn't really feel
slow, I guess, but yeah,

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yeah, for it's definitely not action
there. Yeah, so I think that's

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all I have to say about the
film. I love it very much