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Can you find love again after heartbreak, emotional abuse, and a high-conflict divorce? In this episode of Second Chances: The Best Parts Are on Side B, Lisa Johnson and Chris Berry, the couple behind Been There Got Out (BTGO), share their inspiring second-chance love story—from navigating toxic relationships and online dating to rebuilding trust and finding love again. We dive into narcissistic relationships, emotional abuse, healthy boundaries, divorce, co-parenting, and the impact of high-conflict relationships on children. Lisa and Chris share honest relationship advice, healing strategies, and how their personal experiences inspired them to become advocates, coaches, and authors of two powerful books. Their message? Your past doesn't have to define your future. Healing is possible, love can happen again, and sometimes your greatest chapter is still ahead.
Takeaways:
- Hidden Abuse: Recognizing toxic patterns.
- Second Chances: Finding love after heartbreak.
- Online Dating: Taking a leap of faith.
- Healthy Boundaries: Protecting your peace.
- Building Trust: Honesty, vulnerability, and connection.
- Love & Laughter: Rediscovering romance.
- Healing Trauma: Navigating triggers and rebuilding confidence.
- Narcissistic Relationships: Spotting emotional abuse.
- Therapy Challenges: Avoiding blame and manipulation.
- High-Conflict Divorce: Communicating without escalating.
- Protecting Children: Putting their well-being first.
- Finding Support: The power of therapy and community.
- Pain Into Purpose: Turning struggles into strength.
- Sharing Your Story: Inspiring others through books and advocacy.
Sound Bites:
00:00 "They survived high conflict relationships."
14:20 "I have never stopped wanting to know her more."
20:43 "It's not about the cigarette."
22:52 "You should write a book."
24:00 "This isn't normal. This isn't right."
27:40 "You've ruined my life, both of you."
30:59 "We call it strategic communication."
34:14 "You could never represent yourself."
37:14 "Children are essentially both of you."
44:14 "This is a human issue, not a gender issue."
Chapters:
00:00 Recognizing Abuse in Relationships
01:40 Finding Love After Heartbreak
08:03 The Journey of Online Dating
14:28 Navigating New Relationships
21:08 Helping Others Through Shared Experiences
23:32 Understanding Narcissistic Relationships
28:54 Navigating Therapy with Narcissists
30:36 Establishing Boundaries and Communication
35:29 The Impact of Divorce on Children
41:32 Healing and Moving Forward
46:05 Finding Purpose in Helping Others
Connect with Chris and Lisa: Website: https://beentheregotout.com/
Podcast: https://beentheregotout.buzzsprout.com/
First BTGO Book: https://www.amazon.com/Been-There-Got-Relationships-Circumstances/dp/194627495X/
Second book: https://www.amazon.com/Been-There-Got-Out-Against/dp/1967674183/
Strategic Communication course - free webinar: https://programs.beentheregotout.com/SC-Register
Have a Second Chance story to share? ❤️ Whether it’s love, faith, family, health, career, or life’s unexpected turns, we’d love to hear about your Side B moment! Visit secondchanceonlove.com to share your story or apply to be a podcast guest. hello@secondchanceonlove.com
