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It's 1985 on the set of runaway train, and Daniel Trejo has been called in because there's a serious cocaine problem.
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Out of prison, clean, and working in a sober living home, Trejo heard being an extra was an easy way to make 50 bucks.
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As I've heard him say, if you were normal looking, you could be in the background, and if you look different, maybe you could be a bad guy.
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By pure coincidence, Edward Bunker, who was Michael Mann's guy and would consult in the crime genre for years after, recognizes Trejo from a stint in jail and insists he's teach the star Eric Roberts to box.
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That coincidence spawns a career of 250 roles in film and television.
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I sometimes think covering all the Screen Gems movies is a daunting task, but if I tried covering half of Danny Trejo's filmography, I would have to rethink this whole thing.
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Man is an interesting career.
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Something about the power of charisma over talent, like the lines in his face are worth more than a million dollar script.
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This is not the only show I do, so I'm trying to not let conversations from other shows drift into mine.
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But um at some point last week, a co-host on a show I produced was saying that they hate karaoke.
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And specifically they have a playlist that that are just brutal for audiences.
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Like, on purpose, if you're gonna make me do this, you're not going to enjoy it.
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As a fellow with limited register and clumsiness when attempting to carry a tune, I get it completely.
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But I think it's a bad strategy.
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I love Chris Rock, not just when his face slapped Will Smith's innocent hand that time, but in recent stand-up Tambourine, he jokes that a relationship is like playing in a band.
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It's the namesake of the set.
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That's right.
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When you're in a relationship, you're in a band.
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You're in a fucking band.
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And when you're in a band, you have roles that you play in the band.
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Sometimes you sing a lead and sometimes you're on tambourine.
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And if you're on tambourine, play it right.
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Play it right.
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Play it with a fucking line.
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Cause nobody wants to see a mad tambourine play.
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So my advice at karaoke is play it right.
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You're gonna ruin this for everyone because you don't think you could sing.
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That didn't stop half of the bands you liked when you were growing up.
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John Fogarty cannot sing, Axel Rose cannot sing, Joe Cocker can't sing, but the man destroys.
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You don't need to be a great singer to put on a good performance, and you certainly don't need to be an actor to be amazing in a movie.
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It's the power of charisma over talent.
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Talent is indicative of hard work and practice, of effort.
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I think it's very much the reason insecure actors choose to become method or dive into roles.
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It justifies or adds legitimacy to their craft, their career, their range.
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Charismatic people do not need range.
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They're rewarded for being authentic, for being themselves.
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And I don't want to come off as a hypocrite.
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I know I complain that Tim Robbins has been shorthand for creepy in the Arlington Road episode, but that's because there's evidence you can play much more than that.
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Next week we're gonna cover a Jason Statham movie.
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Let's play a game.
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I'm going to list a few movies he's been in recently, and we'll see if you can name any of the characters he's played.
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First, the Beekeeper.
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What was his name?
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Second, a working man, which he certainly is.
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What was that working man's name?
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Okay, I'll give you an easy one.
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We'll do the Fast and Furious movies.
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We all know that he is Shaw of Hobbes and Shaw, but what's his first name?
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If you're having a problem with this exercise, it's not your fault.
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I'll tell you why.
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They don't have names.
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Not really.
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Who the hell cares about Adam Clay or Lavon Cade or Deckard fucking Shaw?
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He's Jason Statham in this B movie.
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He's Jason Statham in this hard hat movie.
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He's Jason Statham in this family drives fast movie.
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I'm a huge Jason Statham fan.
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London baby.
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But he doesn't see himself as an actor, and we'll talk about this next week.
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That's the magic to him.
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Sometimes you need a Jason Statham type.
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Sometimes you need a Jeff Goldblum type.
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Sometimes you need a woman that is so intimidating.
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Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Michelle Rodriguez.
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Wow.
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I can't believe you guys are honoring me.
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I make action movies.
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I never thought anybody'd give me an award for that.
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Thank you.
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Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for listening to Screen Generation.
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It's a podcast about the films released by Sony under the label Screen Gems.
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I'm your host, Evan Hughes, and we're finally at the point where the movies on my list are starting to kick ass.
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And actually, this one made me feel really nostalgic.
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This movie's got a killer soundtrack.
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It doesn't have 30 seconds of fat that could trip off, trim off of it.
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It's the most solid edit on a breakout film, I think, ever.
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The lead is an unknown extra whose first role is to train for two to four months, depending on who reports it, to become a fighting machine.
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God, if you thought this intro was long, you probably have no idea where I'm going.
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I adore Michelle Rodriguez.
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I actually don't think uh it's fair to say that she was typecast in her filmography.
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When everyone else is at dinner and they order an action movie, getting a plate of Michelle Rodriguez for the table will not upset anyone.
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Let's be Hollywood for a minute.
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After this, let's stick her in Resident Evil as a tough commando.
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Then let's stick her in SWAT as a tough cop.
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Then James Cameron's gonna see that, and he's like, I guess you're Trudy, the tough pilot in Avatar.
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She's a lot like Vasquez and Alien, so I can see a parallel there.
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This movie kind of starts it, but if you need a believable member of your team that will be in action situations, Michelle Rodriguez is shorthand for capable, formidable, and fine as hell.
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Karen Kusama, the director, decided to make this film after pursuing boxing herself.
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It'd be wrong to call it autobiographical, but it's fair to say she did the research and learned a lot about action choreography for the ring.
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Before setting her sights on this, she was an assistant to John Sayles, who directed our first Screen Gems film, Limbo, and play as the professor in this movie.
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Also, losing funding for the project, less than a week before shooting, Sayles and his partner, Maggie Renzi, backed her with the help of IFC.
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When this film was released at Sundance, they all looked like geniuses when they won the grand jury prize and best director in drama.
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I know Kusama to be a good director, but the next film she makes is somewhat of a fool's errand.
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A film I would see in theaters called Eon Flux.
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Regardless, any name she made for herself with this movie was unmade with that flop.
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And from what I have found with the Peter Chung miniseries, that's it's a it's a crazy property, meant to be a dissociative anime experience.
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So a few years go by, and she's been doing TV, but um, she comes out with another movie hiding behind Megan Fox and a Diablo Cody script who is fresh off of Making Juno.
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It's called Jennifer's Body, and I believe it's a very good, in my opinion, Teen Horflick.
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With it it makes me wonder how traumatizing high school was for Karen.
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Like both her depictions are of women being the worst to each other and men being oblivious, which we probably are.
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A few years later, she directs a script written by her partner Phil Hay, called The Invitation.
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I think this is her masterpiece, and it's different from all of her other movies because a man's the protagonist.
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But I do want to say, he's such a damsel in distress, I really wonder if she pulled a smooth move on us and just gender swapped the roles.
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Either way, she had a strong television career and is a solid worker when she has a good script.
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This movie is less about fighting and more about coming of age.
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That said, this is a non-traditional narrative.
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This isn't the karate kid, it's not the longest yard.
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There aren't movies like this.
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Actually, watching it and thinking about it, this movie has a lot in common with the original Rocky without sharing any of the tropes sports movies have.
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And it could be because of what Rocky turned into.
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The lead is misunderstood, the love interest is a sex-deprived honey named Adrian.
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The montages keep this thing moving, and they manage to make boxing exciting, which is a Rocky thing.
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In Rocky, there's less than 10 minutes of the match with Apollo Creed.
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The whole movie is about making it to the fight.
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I watched a ton of boxing during the late 90s.
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HBO pay-per-view fight nights at my grandparents.
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Heavyweights always were the primetime feature, and when you're that big, it's difficult to make it that far, you know, into the rounds.
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Somebody gets tired or somebody punched face too much.
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But I remember watching a featherweight fight in person and being pretty disgusted.
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It looked like men who escaped to prison camp were paired off and punched each other out for like no sport.
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And they don't do it in the movie, but kind of like when you're watching an NBA All-Star game and you know the players get tired of it, and then it just becomes like a dunking contest in a featherweight match, they know it's going to go to the card.
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So the last minute or so, they just stop dancing around and unload on each other, like to land as many punches as possible and maybe win.
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So, back to why this movie works.
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It's about a troubled teen applying themselves.
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The patriarchy of coaches try to discourage her at first, but they're not really the issue.
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The scarcity of female competitors is the issue.
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Her disapproving abusive father is the issue.
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The school that doesn't see her until she outperforms and probably helps the school's average in the fitness assessment is the issue.
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The guy she wants to love who has priorities is the issue.
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This movie is about a young woman's life and it punches you in the face for it.
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Because I have already invoked Fast and Furious, and because I'm heading somewhere, I kind of find it hard not to notice the similarities to this movie and Tokyo Drift.
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The opening shot in this movie and the soundtrack give Justin Lin a template for his movie.
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He uses some cool time-lapse shots and a dope DJ Shadow track, but they're almost the same.
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Seriously, this movie starts its opening with a fight over a chick being a hoe.
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In the other, it's a race over a chick being a hoe.
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Both of them get in trouble, and they still continue to fight or race to success and ultimately finding love.
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I was at one point going to make like a parody of the trailer for this movie, just as a guy who wants to get into fighting women because they don't believe I can.
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Yeah, it wouldn't have aged well.
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And I figured it was so close to Tokyo Drift, so listen to this.
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When bullying in cars gets too crazy, you're going to get kicked out of high school for racing cars.
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You're not my mom's car.
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Shape up and ship out to Japan.
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Oh no, they drive different here on the wrong side.
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No furious will race a fast under my roof.
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Coming to theater in the year 2000.
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It's car fight.
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To clean the palate of whatever that was, I want to show you, or listen, yeah, I want to tell you how important Michelle Rodriguez is to the Fast and Furious.
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The same year as Avatar, they killed off Letty.
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Probably because she was the most recognizable member of the crew from the first movie.
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The sin of Fast 5 is she's not in it, and I consider it perhaps the best movie they've made.
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But that's forgiven in Fast and Furious 6 when her amnesia subplot, and no looking, what's the bad guy's name?
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I'll give you a hint.
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He's Jason Statham's brother.
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Something shaw.
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I bet you can't remember Jason Statham's first name either.
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Okay, anyways, Statham is Deckard, his brother is Owen.
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Okay, they get Letty back, as with Han, conveniently from Tokyo Drift, wink wink, maybe a similarity, fixing a huge miscalculation, and now nobody has to die in the series.
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Let's make a list of non-traditional actors in Fast and Furious and put them behind Rodriguez in acting ability.
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Tyree Skibsen, model turned baby boy turned Roman Pierce.
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Chris Ludacris Bridges, rapper turned actor, Rhonda Rousey, fighter who acted that one time.
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Dwayne The Rock Johnson and John Cena, wrestlers who make most actors look bad in these movies.
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Iggy Azalea.
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Hey, that's the girl I heard so much about.
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Where you been at?
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Ghost girl?
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Yeah, that actually happened.
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Former rapper, former cameo, Iggy Azalea was stuck in these stupid movies.
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Jason Statham, diver turned martial artist, turned actor.
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There's a serious evolution of Letty and Dom's relationship in the Fast franchise.
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And if you take it from both ends, one and X, in the first, she's territorial and a total boss.
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She has to believably deliver lines like this.
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Why don't you girls just pack it up before I leave tread marks on your face?
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Yeah, whatever.
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You don't have anything?
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You look a bit tired.
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I think you should go upstairs and give me a massage.
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Look at all our guests.
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How about we go upstairs and give me a massage?
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See, in that movie, they have sexual chemistry, and by Fast X, they're cuddling on some Walmart furniture like the Amish.
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Michelle Rodriguez is so good at kissing, I cannot believe Vin has fumbled this so bad.
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But every trace of their off-screen romance is dead in the later movies.
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And if you're looking before and after one to X, she looks the same and Vin has changed.
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For the vineyard.
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Also, we know too much about these people now.
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Vin Diesel's idea of a good time is karaoke, and he does it right.
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And Michelle Rodriguez's idea of a good time is target practice or skydiving.
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One time on television, Bear Grills drank her urine and did not complain.
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I can't make this shit up.
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Ah!
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That's not gonna make much of a broth.
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But you know what we could do to supplement this?
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I am a little scared to hear what you have to say about the situation.
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Well, if one of us peed, and then we stew the the mouse and the pea in the water, and then we got a urine mouse soup.
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Have you never had urine mouse soup?
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Oh my god.
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It's like chicken.
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Yeah.
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Sauted in piss.
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Well, I'm kinda happy it's my piss and not yours.
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Yeah, thanks.
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We better not let the broth go to waste.
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You're for real.
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I can't believe this.
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Now, while I did not like the most recent Fast and Furious movie, but Eating Fast X, Rodriguez gets to fight Cypher, played by Charlize Teron.
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She has dreads two movies ago, but forget about that.
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And it's a good fight.
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These women are physical, choreographed, have great stunt teams, and have stayed relevant for over 25 years.
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In fact, the Curse Project Eon Flux starred Thuron.
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So the ladies fighting in the Arctic bunker are both Kusama leads.
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And in a series of movies where people fight each other with cars, these women are the people who can believably throw down with each other.
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And they managed to fuck that up too.
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Like the endgame shot with all the ladies in frame, they just had to bring her back.
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Okay, let's uh let's go back to the list of non-traditional actors.
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Galgado, war criminal turned alleged actress.
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Don't get mad at me for that part.
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When Galgadot attempts to smile on camera, the IDF bombs a hospital.
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Oh, so I guess you're not coming for the hot takes?
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You're coming because you're a fucking jerkoff?
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She might be the best example of history of visually depicting looks aren't everything.
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And maybe she shouldn't come back if Vin is interested in, I'm not sure, murdering, you know, family.
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I'm certainly not going to waste your time recalling the events in this movie.
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I would love to spotlight Jamie Torelli and Paul Calderon's performances.
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Um Calderon is Marcillus Wallace's bartender in Pulp Fiction and the Sergeant Major in The Last Castle.
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I solidly recommend you watch this movie.
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And there is a Criterion Blu-ray available, but I found a 2001 DVD in full screen, and it did the trick just fine.
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As per a rating, I'm giving it a 9 out of 10.
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It will be joining my collection.
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Every week my list seems to be getting smaller, and my library seems to be getting a bit bigger.
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But I must have been going somewhere, right?
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Like I must have had a point with the introduction, right?
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When Robert Rodriguez was looking to cast female leads for his new project, a spinoff of the Grindhouse trailer Machete, he had to find someone with enough gravitas.
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Someone shorthand for dangerous, beautiful, incapable of running a taco truck that starts the revolution.
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And who do you think came to mind?
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I guess they needed someone with some natural charisma.
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Bet you didn't think I'd make it back.
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Oh yeah.
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The only actress to hold her own against Danny Trejo is Michelle Rodriguez.
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Extras who can throw a punch, who are cast because of who they are, not because of what they can pretend to be.
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This movie came out on September 29th, 2000.
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I'm recording this podcast on the 25th anniversary of September 11, 2001.
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And this movie is New York without the Skyline shots.
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It's bodegas, it's diners, it's the gym, it's classrooms.
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The movie is older than several of my colleagues, and I can't imagine how they see the world when it's just history, not something that happened to you.
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In 25 years, it's clear we made a whole lot of mistakes.
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We never forgot, but we got so distracted.
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It's a stupid podcast about movies, but the impact of one day will be noticeable on the art we start making in the early 2000s, which is where the show is going.
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My name is Evan Hughes.
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I'm the host of Screen Generation.
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It's a podcast about the films released by Sony under the label Screen Gems.
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The show was made by human beings, correction, made by a human being, without artificial flavors, colors, or any intelligence for that matter.
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Next week, join me for my third favorite, Spelled with a U, filmed by Guy Ritchie, Snatch.
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Well, you know, 50 up for three very fast.
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I've got a pair of five, I want to have to fight it.
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I'm outless.
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Anything to declare?
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Yeah.
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Don't go to England.
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Uh in Florida, and uh strong questions with uh magic structure for the standard work.
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Until next time, Governor.
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It's been many years uh that I've been doing what I do, um, thirteen to be exact, uh, since um Girl Fight, which was the first look I ever made.
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And it's it's it's a half road, Jesus.
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Just uh growing up in the industry.
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Um and I when I say growing up, I mean becoming an adult.
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And um
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It's 1985 on the set of runaway train, and Daniel Trejo has been called in because there's a serious cocaine problem.
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Out of prison, clean, and working in a sober living home, Trejo heard being an extra was an easy way to make 50 bucks.
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As I've heard him say, if you were normal looking, you could be in the background, and if you look different, maybe you could be a bad guy.
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By pure coincidence, Edward Bunker, who was Michael Mann's guy and would consult in the crime genre for years after, recognizes Trejo from a stint in jail and insists he's teach the star Eric Roberts to box.
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That coincidence spawns a career of 250 roles in film and television.
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I sometimes think covering all the Screen Gems movies is a daunting task, but if I tried covering half of Danny Trejo's filmography, I would have to rethink this whole thing.
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Man is an interesting career.
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Something about the power of charisma over talent, like the lines in his face are worth more than a million dollar script.
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This is not the only show I do, so I'm trying to not let conversations from other shows drift into mine.
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But um at some point last week, a co-host on a show I produced was saying that they hate karaoke.
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And specifically they have a playlist that that are just brutal for audiences.
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Like, on purpose, if you're gonna make me do this, you're not going to enjoy it.
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As a fellow with limited register and clumsiness when attempting to carry a tune, I get it completely.
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But I think it's a bad strategy.
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I love Chris Rock, not just when his face slapped Will Smith's innocent hand that time, but in recent stand-up Tambourine, he jokes that a relationship is like playing in a band.
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It's the namesake of the set.
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That's right.
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When you're in a relationship, you're in a band.
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You're in a fucking band.
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And when you're in a band, you have roles that you play in the band.
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Sometimes you sing a lead and sometimes you're on tambourine.
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And if you're on tambourine, play it right.
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Play it right.
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Play it with a fucking line.
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Cause nobody wants to see a mad tambourine play.
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So my advice at karaoke is play it right.
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You're gonna ruin this for everyone because you don't think you could sing.
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That didn't stop half of the bands you liked when you were growing up.
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John Fogarty cannot sing, Axel Rose cannot sing, Joe Cocker can't sing, but the man destroys.
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You don't need to be a great singer to put on a good performance, and you certainly don't need to be an actor to be amazing in a movie.
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It's the power of charisma over talent.
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Talent is indicative of hard work and practice, of effort.
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I think it's very much the reason insecure actors choose to become method or dive into roles.
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It justifies or adds legitimacy to their craft, their career, their range.
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Charismatic people do not need range.
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They're rewarded for being authentic, for being themselves.
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And I don't want to come off as a hypocrite.
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I know I complain that Tim Robbins has been shorthand for creepy in the Arlington Road episode, but that's because there's evidence you can play much more than that.
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Next week we're gonna cover a Jason Statham movie.
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Let's play a game.
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I'm going to list a few movies he's been in recently, and we'll see if you can name any of the characters he's played.
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First, the Beekeeper.
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What was his name?
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Second, a working man, which he certainly is.
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What was that working man's name?
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Okay, I'll give you an easy one.
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We'll do the Fast and Furious movies.
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We all know that he is Shaw of Hobbes and Shaw, but what's his first name?
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If you're having a problem with this exercise, it's not your fault.
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I'll tell you why.
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They don't have names.
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Not really.
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Who the hell cares about Adam Clay or Lavon Cade or Deckard fucking Shaw?
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He's Jason Statham in this B movie.
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He's Jason Statham in this hard hat movie.
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He's Jason Statham in this family drives fast movie.
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I'm a huge Jason Statham fan.
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London baby.
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But he doesn't see himself as an actor, and we'll talk about this next week.
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That's the magic to him.
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Sometimes you need a Jason Statham type.
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Sometimes you need a Jeff Goldblum type.
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Sometimes you need a woman that is so intimidating.
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Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Michelle Rodriguez.
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Wow.
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I can't believe you guys are honoring me.
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I make action movies.
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I never thought anybody'd give me an award for that.
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Thank you.
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Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for listening to Screen Generation.
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It's a podcast about the films released by Sony under the label Screen Gems.
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I'm your host, Evan Hughes, and we're finally at the point where the movies on my list are starting to kick ass.
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And actually, this one made me feel really nostalgic.
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This movie's got a killer soundtrack.
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It doesn't have 30 seconds of fat that could trip off, trim off of it.
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It's the most solid edit on a breakout film, I think, ever.
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The lead is an unknown extra whose first role is to train for two to four months, depending on who reports it, to become a fighting machine.
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God, if you thought this intro was long, you probably have no idea where I'm going.
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I adore Michelle Rodriguez.
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I actually don't think uh it's fair to say that she was typecast in her filmography.
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When everyone else is at dinner and they order an action movie, getting a plate of Michelle Rodriguez for the table will not upset anyone.
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Let's be Hollywood for a minute.
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After this, let's stick her in Resident Evil as a tough commando.
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Then let's stick her in SWAT as a tough cop.
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Then James Cameron's gonna see that, and he's like, I guess you're Trudy, the tough pilot in Avatar.
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She's a lot like Vasquez and Alien, so I can see a parallel there.
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This movie kind of starts it, but if you need a believable member of your team that will be in action situations, Michelle Rodriguez is shorthand for capable, formidable, and fine as hell.
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Karen Kusama, the director, decided to make this film after pursuing boxing herself.
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It'd be wrong to call it autobiographical, but it's fair to say she did the research and learned a lot about action choreography for the ring.
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Before setting her sights on this, she was an assistant to John Sayles, who directed our first Screen Gems film, Limbo, and play as the professor in this movie.
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Also, losing funding for the project, less than a week before shooting, Sayles and his partner, Maggie Renzi, backed her with the help of IFC.
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When this film was released at Sundance, they all looked like geniuses when they won the grand jury prize and best director in drama.
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I know Kusama to be a good director, but the next film she makes is somewhat of a fool's errand.
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A film I would see in theaters called Eon Flux.
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Regardless, any name she made for herself with this movie was unmade with that flop.
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And from what I have found with the Peter Chung miniseries, that's it's a it's a crazy property, meant to be a dissociative anime experience.
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So a few years go by, and she's been doing TV, but um, she comes out with another movie hiding behind Megan Fox and a Diablo Cody script who is fresh off of Making Juno.
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It's called Jennifer's Body, and I believe it's a very good, in my opinion, Teen Horflick.
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With it it makes me wonder how traumatizing high school was for Karen.
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Like both her depictions are of women being the worst to each other and men being oblivious, which we probably are.
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A few years later, she directs a script written by her partner Phil Hay, called The Invitation.
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I think this is her masterpiece, and it's different from all of her other movies because a man's the protagonist.
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But I do want to say, he's such a damsel in distress, I really wonder if she pulled a smooth move on us and just gender swapped the roles.
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Either way, she had a strong television career and is a solid worker when she has a good script.
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This movie is less about fighting and more about coming of age.
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That said, this is a non-traditional narrative.
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This isn't the karate kid, it's not the longest yard.
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There aren't movies like this.
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Actually, watching it and thinking about it, this movie has a lot in common with the original Rocky without sharing any of the tropes sports movies have.
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And it could be because of what Rocky turned into.
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The lead is misunderstood, the love interest is a sex-deprived honey named Adrian.
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The montages keep this thing moving, and they manage to make boxing exciting, which is a Rocky thing.
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In Rocky, there's less than 10 minutes of the match with Apollo Creed.
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The whole movie is about making it to the fight.
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I watched a ton of boxing during the late 90s.
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HBO pay-per-view fight nights at my grandparents.
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Heavyweights always were the primetime feature, and when you're that big, it's difficult to make it that far, you know, into the rounds.
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Somebody gets tired or somebody punched face too much.
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But I remember watching a featherweight fight in person and being pretty disgusted.
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It looked like men who escaped to prison camp were paired off and punched each other out for like no sport.
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And they don't do it in the movie, but kind of like when you're watching an NBA All-Star game and you know the players get tired of it, and then it just becomes like a dunking contest in a featherweight match, they know it's going to go to the card.
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So the last minute or so, they just stop dancing around and unload on each other, like to land as many punches as possible and maybe win.
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So, back to why this movie works.
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It's about a troubled teen applying themselves.
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The patriarchy of coaches try to discourage her at first, but they're not really the issue.
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The scarcity of female competitors is the issue.
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Her disapproving abusive father is the issue.
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The school that doesn't see her until she outperforms and probably helps the school's average in the fitness assessment is the issue.
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The guy she wants to love who has priorities is the issue.
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This movie is about a young woman's life and it punches you in the face for it.
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Because I have already invoked Fast and Furious, and because I'm heading somewhere, I kind of find it hard not to notice the similarities to this movie and Tokyo Drift.
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The opening shot in this movie and the soundtrack give Justin Lin a template for his movie.
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He uses some cool time-lapse shots and a dope DJ Shadow track, but they're almost the same.
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Seriously, this movie starts its opening with a fight over a chick being a hoe.
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In the other, it's a race over a chick being a hoe.
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Both of them get in trouble, and they still continue to fight or race to success and ultimately finding love.
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I was at one point going to make like a parody of the trailer for this movie, just as a guy who wants to get into fighting women because they don't believe I can.
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Yeah, it wouldn't have aged well.
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And I figured it was so close to Tokyo Drift, so listen to this.
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When bullying in cars gets too crazy, you're going to get kicked out of high school for racing cars.
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You're not my mom's car.
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Shape up and ship out to Japan.
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Oh no, they drive different here on the wrong side.
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No furious will race a fast under my roof.
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Coming to theater in the year 2000.
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It's car fight.
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To clean the palate of whatever that was, I want to show you, or listen, yeah, I want to tell you how important Michelle Rodriguez is to the Fast and Furious.
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The same year as Avatar, they killed off Letty.
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Probably because she was the most recognizable member of the crew from the first movie.
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The sin of Fast 5 is she's not in it, and I consider it perhaps the best movie they've made.
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But that's forgiven in Fast and Furious 6 when her amnesia subplot, and no looking, what's the bad guy's name?
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I'll give you a hint.
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He's Jason Statham's brother.
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Something shaw.
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I bet you can't remember Jason Statham's first name either.
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Okay, anyways, Statham is Deckard, his brother is Owen.
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Okay, they get Letty back, as with Han, conveniently from Tokyo Drift, wink wink, maybe a similarity, fixing a huge miscalculation, and now nobody has to die in the series.
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Let's make a list of non-traditional actors in Fast and Furious and put them behind Rodriguez in acting ability.
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Tyree Skibsen, model turned baby boy turned Roman Pierce.
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Chris Ludacris Bridges, rapper turned actor, Rhonda Rousey, fighter who acted that one time.
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Dwayne The Rock Johnson and John Cena, wrestlers who make most actors look bad in these movies.
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Iggy Azalea.
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Hey, that's the girl I heard so much about.
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Where you been at?
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Ghost girl?
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Yeah, that actually happened.
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Former rapper, former cameo, Iggy Azalea was stuck in these stupid movies.
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Jason Statham, diver turned martial artist, turned actor.
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There's a serious evolution of Letty and Dom's relationship in the Fast franchise.
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And if you take it from both ends, one and X, in the first, she's territorial and a total boss.
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She has to believably deliver lines like this.
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Why don't you girls just pack it up before I leave tread marks on your face?
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Yeah, whatever.
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You don't have anything?
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You look a bit tired.
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I think you should go upstairs and give me a massage.
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Look at all our guests.
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How about we go upstairs and give me a massage?
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See, in that movie, they have sexual chemistry, and by Fast X, they're cuddling on some Walmart furniture like the Amish.
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Michelle Rodriguez is so good at kissing, I cannot believe Vin has fumbled this so bad.
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But every trace of their off-screen romance is dead in the later movies.
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And if you're looking before and after one to X, she looks the same and Vin has changed.
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For the vineyard.
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Also, we know too much about these people now.
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Vin Diesel's idea of a good time is karaoke, and he does it right.
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And Michelle Rodriguez's idea of a good time is target practice or skydiving.
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One time on television, Bear Grills drank her urine and did not complain.
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I can't make this shit up.
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Ah!
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That's not gonna make much of a broth.
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But you know what we could do to supplement this?
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I am a little scared to hear what you have to say about the situation.
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Well, if one of us peed, and then we stew the the mouse and the pea in the water, and then we got a urine mouse soup.
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Have you never had urine mouse soup?
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Oh my god.
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It's like chicken.
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Yeah.
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Sauted in piss.
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Well, I'm kinda happy it's my piss and not yours.
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Yeah, thanks.
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We better not let the broth go to waste.
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You're for real.
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I can't believe this.
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Now, while I did not like the most recent Fast and Furious movie, but Eating Fast X, Rodriguez gets to fight Cypher, played by Charlize Teron.
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She has dreads two movies ago, but forget about that.
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And it's a good fight.
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These women are physical, choreographed, have great stunt teams, and have stayed relevant for over 25 years.
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In fact, the Curse Project Eon Flux starred Thuron.
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So the ladies fighting in the Arctic bunker are both Kusama leads.
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And in a series of movies where people fight each other with cars, these women are the people who can believably throw down with each other.
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And they managed to fuck that up too.
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Like the endgame shot with all the ladies in frame, they just had to bring her back.
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Okay, let's uh let's go back to the list of non-traditional actors.
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Galgado, war criminal turned alleged actress.
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Don't get mad at me for that part.
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When Galgadot attempts to smile on camera, the IDF bombs a hospital.
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Oh, so I guess you're not coming for the hot takes?
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You're coming because you're a fucking jerkoff?
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She might be the best example of history of visually depicting looks aren't everything.
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And maybe she shouldn't come back if Vin is interested in, I'm not sure, murdering, you know, family.
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I'm certainly not going to waste your time recalling the events in this movie.
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I would love to spotlight Jamie Torelli and Paul Calderon's performances.
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Um Calderon is Marcillus Wallace's bartender in Pulp Fiction and the Sergeant Major in The Last Castle.
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I solidly recommend you watch this movie.
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And there is a Criterion Blu-ray available, but I found a 2001 DVD in full screen, and it did the trick just fine.
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As per a rating, I'm giving it a 9 out of 10.
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It will be joining my collection.
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Every week my list seems to be getting smaller, and my library seems to be getting a bit bigger.
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But I must have been going somewhere, right?
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Like I must have had a point with the introduction, right?
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When Robert Rodriguez was looking to cast female leads for his new project, a spinoff of the Grindhouse trailer Machete, he had to find someone with enough gravitas.
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Someone shorthand for dangerous, beautiful, incapable of running a taco truck that starts the revolution.
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And who do you think came to mind?
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I guess they needed someone with some natural charisma.
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Bet you didn't think I'd make it back.
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Oh yeah.
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The only actress to hold her own against Danny Trejo is Michelle Rodriguez.
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Extras who can throw a punch, who are cast because of who they are, not because of what they can pretend to be.
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This movie came out on September 29th, 2000.
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I'm recording this podcast on the 25th anniversary of September 11, 2001.
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And this movie is New York without the Skyline shots.
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It's bodegas, it's diners, it's the gym, it's classrooms.
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The movie is older than several of my colleagues, and I can't imagine how they see the world when it's just history, not something that happened to you.
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In 25 years, it's clear we made a whole lot of mistakes.
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We never forgot, but we got so distracted.
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It's a stupid podcast about movies, but the impact of one day will be noticeable on the art we start making in the early 2000s, which is where the show is going.
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My name is Evan Hughes.
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I'm the host of Screen Generation.
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It's a podcast about the films released by Sony under the label Screen Gems.
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The show was made by human beings, correction, made by a human being, without artificial flavors, colors, or any intelligence for that matter.
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Next week, join me for my third favorite, Spelled with a U, filmed by Guy Ritchie, Snatch.
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Well, you know, 50 up for three very fast.
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I've got a pair of five, I want to have to fight it.
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I'm outless.
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Anything to declare?
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Yeah.
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Don't go to England.
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Uh in Florida, and uh strong questions with uh magic structure for the standard work.
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Until next time, Governor.
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It's been many years uh that I've been doing what I do, um, thirteen to be exact, uh, since um Girl Fight, which was the first look I ever made.
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And it's it's it's a half road, Jesus.
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Just uh growing up in the industry.
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Um and I when I say growing up, I mean becoming an adult.
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And um
