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Speaker 1: Let's go to our panel now. Alf Filipaina, Auckland Councillor, and Stephanie Holmes, the Herald's Lifestyle Editor, join.
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Speaker 2: Me at the desk. Good morning to you both.
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Speaker 3: Good morning.
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Speaker 2: Nice to see you. Would you be going down, Alf, to check out Bezos, see how big his boat is?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to swim in the swimming pool while it's in the water.
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Speaker 2: I know. It doesn't make any sense, does it?
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Speaker 3: Of course it doesn't.
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Speaker 2: Why do you need a pool when you've got an ocean? I don't know. Maybe it's too big you can't jump off the side.
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Speaker 4: Keep away from sharks as well, right?
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Speaker 2: Of course, of course. Now, AI law, we've just spoken to an IP.
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Speaker 1: Lawyer who says, you know, once we, because at the moment AI is spitting out what we've told it, but soon it will start creating new things with that information. That's when we get into the sort of the legal territory of all of this stuff.
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Speaker 2: What do you reckon?
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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just terrified by AI. I'm definitely someone who's got my head in the sand and don't want to think about the ramifications, especially I'm a writer, an editor. You know, AI is probably going to take over my job and I don't have a plan B yet. So that's where I'm focusing. What's my plan B going to be? And I still don't know.
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Speaker 2: Al?
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Speaker 3: Sue the creator.
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Speaker 1: Sue the creator of the AI. Whoever made the AI, you sue.
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Speaker 2: Of course.
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Speaker 3: I mean, you just said they put all the information in. So what it spews out is based on the information put in. So sue the creator. Well, take his or her job first.
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Speaker 2: Get the lawyers involved.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's shocking.
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Speaker 4: You'd have to have quite a lot of money to be able to take on some of these AI companies, though, right? You'd want to be really confident in your lawyers.
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Speaker 2: That's the thing.
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Speaker 3: Well, look what's happened in the States with all their AI platforms and buildings. It's crazy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is insane.
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Speaker 1: Hey, the other thing we're talking about this morning, this is a really intense story.
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Speaker 2: But it's about the death penalty.
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Speaker 1: So here's a clip from a woman called Krista Pike, who some 20 odd years ago now, 18 years ago, she was 18 at the time, tortured and murdered her 19 year old classmate.
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Speaker 2: Horrific story.
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Speaker 1: The reason she's in the news now is because she is going to be the first female to face the death penalty in Tennessee in some 200 years. And they've made a documentary about this.
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Speaker 2: Have a look.
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Speaker 1: I've been in here for over 31 years.
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Speaker 2: I know I said I believe.
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Speaker 3: A date would never be set.
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Speaker 2: But now that one has been set.
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Speaker 3: It's like a roulette wheel of thought. And your actual brain is the ball bouncing around.
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Speaker 4: My nerves are shredded.
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Speaker 3: And when I do sleep, my brain eats itself.
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Speaker 1: So we obviously don't have that type of punishment in New Zealand. But what do you think when you see that? Do you think, because she claims if she did the same crime today, she wouldn't get the death penalty because the laws have changed, the punishments have changed.
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Speaker 2: But what do you think when you see stuff like that?
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Speaker 1: Because it's not like she's a case where, oh, did she do it, didn't she do it? She has said she did it.
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Speaker 2: So I don't know.
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Speaker 4: There's a lot more background to it, though. It's emerged that she suffered horrific abuse herself from the age of a toddler, sexual abuse from multiple people throughout her life. I'm not saying that justifies what she's done, but I think there's a lot more nuance to the case than... a life for a life so I yeah and I it's such a tragedy all around you know she's been in prison for what 30 years I just lost her independence her freedom like is is that punishment enough I don't know it's hard to say as well how you'd feel if it was your daughter who had been murdered what you know exactly the mother is saying that you know she wants the the death penalty to go ahead but Will that give her the peace that she wants? You know, she's been holding on to this for such a long time. It's just so complicated and so tragic.
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Speaker 2: It is. It is.
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Speaker 1: And just fascinating that it's still happening in the United States, right?
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Speaker 2: What do you think, Alf?
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Speaker 3: I always put myself in the mother's position, but also the family of Pike. You know, I mean, how would we react? That's why I.
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Speaker 3: Looking at both sides, I totally agree. But just looking at the mother too who has lost her daughter over the 31 years that Christine, I think it was, Christine, that's been in prison. So, you know, it is a hard one. I don't know whether we should go back in or come here and say, yep, this is what should happen now. Because it happened then.
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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody would be advocating for that either. Well, maybe the sensible sentencing trust would. I don't know at this point. So this is going to happen tomorrow night, our time. First woman in 200 years in Tennessee to be executed, to be given the death penalty. There was one weird twist to the story. Did you read that about her request? So her request is that all of the executioners She wants a woman-only execution team.
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Speaker 2: Isn't that strange?
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Speaker 4: I was just reading about that. That's related to the trauma that she suffered as a child. She feels having men take her life.
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Speaker 2: Performing the thing.
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Speaker 4: You know, will be another traumatic event, whether that's, you know, do you care about that when you're about to die?
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Speaker 2: Well, exactly.
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Speaker 1: Okay, that makes more sense. Because I was like, that's a weird form of woman empowerment. Okay, did you see this video? Let's move to a happier story. This is from little old New Zealand. And it is a dance from a Manurewa high school teacher with Jason Derulo. Our coolest teacher out. Look, I.
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Speaker 3: To the teacher, Malo Alpito, because she said, Tongan, we always do that. I thought I could move like that, but then I woke up. So no, I was dreaming. I don't move like that. Well done to her. Well done to her dance crew. Well done to the school.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty cool. It's amazing, yeah.
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Speaker 4: I mean, it gives me internal cringe because if I had to get up and do that, it would just be so embarrassing. I'm more of an interpretive dancer than a... choreographed dancer so.
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Speaker 1: No thank you for me hey just finally this morning there is this study actually two studies that have looked at and they're global ones judges like look in the mirror and tell me how hot you think you are did you guys see this so a thousand people took part and on average men thought they were eight to ten percent more attractive than women rated themselves.
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Speaker 2: Why does this not surprise me Why do you think that is?
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Speaker 1: Is that because men are more confident than they should be, or is it because women are less confident than they should be?
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Speaker 4: I think a bit of both, and it kind of brings to mind that anecdote we always hear about men, and I don't know if this is a real fact or not, but if men look at a position description for a job, if they see one or two things that fit the mark, then they'll apply for the job, whereas a woman has to see all things on the job description that match her experience. So yeah, I think there is a confidence thing for men, a lack of confidence for women. Yeah, it really doesn't surprise me.
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Speaker 1: The thing is, we don't have a control. There's no third party who.
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Speaker 2: Says, actually, yes, that is true.
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Speaker 4: And it's all in the eye of the beholder, isn't it? As a colleague always says, there's a lid for every pot. So who you find attractive, someone else might not, and vice versa.
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Speaker 2: True.
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Speaker 4: Alf?
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Speaker 3: Well, it depends on the mirror. they're looking into, I think. The other thing was how I think later on in the story they said, oh yeah, and we're also very modest. And I was like, hmm.
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Speaker 4: I'd like to see the results for New Zealand. I think New Zealand.
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Speaker 3: Would break themselves down. We are more modest.
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Speaker 2: Do you think we do the understatement thing like the British?
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Speaker 4: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Where we are understated, we're conservative, we would say, oh, no, no, no, we're not hot, even though we're banging.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: 100%.
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Speaker 2: I think so too. Hey, good to see you both this morning. Thank you. Thank you very much.
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Speaker 1: That is our panel for your Tuesday morning. Al Filipaina, Auckland Councillor, and Stephanie Holmes, the Heroes Lifestyle Editor.
Speaker 1: Let's go to our panel now. Alf Filipaina, Auckland Councillor, and Stephanie Holmes, the Herald's Lifestyle Editor, join.
00:00:05
Speaker 2: Me at the desk. Good morning to you both.
00:00:07
Speaker 3: Good morning.
00:00:08
Speaker 2: Nice to see you. Would you be going down, Alf, to check out Bezos, see how big his boat is?
00:00:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to swim in the swimming pool while it's in the water.
00:00:15
Speaker 2: I know. It doesn't make any sense, does it?
00:00:17
Speaker 3: Of course it doesn't.
00:00:18
Speaker 2: Why do you need a pool when you've got an ocean? I don't know. Maybe it's too big you can't jump off the side.
00:00:23
Speaker 4: Keep away from sharks as well, right?
00:00:25
Speaker 2: Of course, of course. Now, AI law, we've just spoken to an IP.
00:00:29
Speaker 1: Lawyer who says, you know, once we, because at the moment AI is spitting out what we've told it, but soon it will start creating new things with that information. That's when we get into the sort of the legal territory of all of this stuff.
00:00:44
Speaker 2: What do you reckon?
00:00:46
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just terrified by AI. I'm definitely someone who's got my head in the sand and don't want to think about the ramifications, especially I'm a writer, an editor. You know, AI is probably going to take over my job and I don't have a plan B yet. So that's where I'm focusing. What's my plan B going to be? And I still don't know.
00:01:04
Speaker 2: Al?
00:01:05
Speaker 3: Sue the creator.
00:01:08
Speaker 1: Sue the creator of the AI. Whoever made the AI, you sue.
00:01:11
Speaker 2: Of course.
00:01:12
Speaker 3: I mean, you just said they put all the information in. So what it spews out is based on the information put in. So sue the creator. Well, take his or her job first.
00:01:24
Speaker 2: Get the lawyers involved.
00:01:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's shocking.
00:01:26
Speaker 4: You'd have to have quite a lot of money to be able to take on some of these AI companies, though, right? You'd want to be really confident in your lawyers.
00:01:32
Speaker 2: That's the thing.
00:01:34
Speaker 3: Well, look what's happened in the States with all their AI platforms and buildings. It's crazy.
00:01:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is insane.
00:01:40
Speaker 1: Hey, the other thing we're talking about this morning, this is a really intense story.
00:01:45
Speaker 2: But it's about the death penalty.
00:01:47
Speaker 1: So here's a clip from a woman called Krista Pike, who some 20 odd years ago now, 18 years ago, she was 18 at the time, tortured and murdered her 19 year old classmate.
00:02:01
Speaker 2: Horrific story.
00:02:03
Speaker 1: The reason she's in the news now is because she is going to be the first female to face the death penalty in Tennessee in some 200 years. And they've made a documentary about this.
00:02:15
Speaker 2: Have a look.
00:02:16
Speaker 1: I've been in here for over 31 years.
00:02:21
Speaker 2: I know I said I believe.
00:02:23
Speaker 3: A date would never be set.
00:02:25
Speaker 2: But now that one has been set.
00:02:28
Speaker 3: It's like a roulette wheel of thought. And your actual brain is the ball bouncing around.
00:02:38
Speaker 4: My nerves are shredded.
00:02:40
Speaker 3: And when I do sleep, my brain eats itself.
00:02:47
Speaker 1: So we obviously don't have that type of punishment in New Zealand. But what do you think when you see that? Do you think, because she claims if she did the same crime today, she wouldn't get the death penalty because the laws have changed, the punishments have changed.
00:03:01
Speaker 2: But what do you think when you see stuff like that?
00:03:03
Speaker 1: Because it's not like she's a case where, oh, did she do it, didn't she do it? She has said she did it.
00:03:09
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
00:03:10
Speaker 4: There's a lot more background to it, though. It's emerged that she suffered horrific abuse herself from the age of a toddler, sexual abuse from multiple people throughout her life. I'm not saying that justifies what she's done, but I think there's a lot more nuance to the case than... a life for a life so I yeah and I it's such a tragedy all around you know she's been in prison for what 30 years I just lost her independence her freedom like is is that punishment enough I don't know it's hard to say as well how you'd feel if it was your daughter who had been murdered what you know exactly the mother is saying that you know she wants the the death penalty to go ahead but Will that give her the peace that she wants? You know, she's been holding on to this for such a long time. It's just so complicated and so tragic.
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Speaker 2: It is. It is.
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Speaker 1: And just fascinating that it's still happening in the United States, right?
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Speaker 2: What do you think, Alf?
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Speaker 3: I always put myself in the mother's position, but also the family of Pike. You know, I mean, how would we react? That's why I.
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Speaker 3: Looking at both sides, I totally agree. But just looking at the mother too who has lost her daughter over the 31 years that Christine, I think it was, Christine, that's been in prison. So, you know, it is a hard one. I don't know whether we should go back in or come here and say, yep, this is what should happen now. Because it happened then.
00:04:50
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody would be advocating for that either. Well, maybe the sensible sentencing trust would. I don't know at this point. So this is going to happen tomorrow night, our time. First woman in 200 years in Tennessee to be executed, to be given the death penalty. There was one weird twist to the story. Did you read that about her request? So her request is that all of the executioners She wants a woman-only execution team.
00:05:20
Speaker 2: Isn't that strange?
00:05:21
Speaker 4: I was just reading about that. That's related to the trauma that she suffered as a child. She feels having men take her life.
00:05:30
Speaker 2: Performing the thing.
00:05:32
Speaker 4: You know, will be another traumatic event, whether that's, you know, do you care about that when you're about to die?
00:05:37
Speaker 2: Well, exactly.
00:05:38
Speaker 1: Okay, that makes more sense. Because I was like, that's a weird form of woman empowerment. Okay, did you see this video? Let's move to a happier story. This is from little old New Zealand. And it is a dance from a Manurewa high school teacher with Jason Derulo. Our coolest teacher out. Look, I.
00:06:31
Speaker 3: To the teacher, Malo Alpito, because she said, Tongan, we always do that. I thought I could move like that, but then I woke up. So no, I was dreaming. I don't move like that. Well done to her. Well done to her dance crew. Well done to the school.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty cool. It's amazing, yeah.
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Speaker 4: I mean, it gives me internal cringe because if I had to get up and do that, it would just be so embarrassing. I'm more of an interpretive dancer than a... choreographed dancer so.
00:07:01
Speaker 1: No thank you for me hey just finally this morning there is this study actually two studies that have looked at and they're global ones judges like look in the mirror and tell me how hot you think you are did you guys see this so a thousand people took part and on average men thought they were eight to ten percent more attractive than women rated themselves.
00:07:26
Speaker 2: Why does this not surprise me Why do you think that is?
00:07:30
Speaker 1: Is that because men are more confident than they should be, or is it because women are less confident than they should be?
00:07:37
Speaker 4: I think a bit of both, and it kind of brings to mind that anecdote we always hear about men, and I don't know if this is a real fact or not, but if men look at a position description for a job, if they see one or two things that fit the mark, then they'll apply for the job, whereas a woman has to see all things on the job description that match her experience. So yeah, I think there is a confidence thing for men, a lack of confidence for women. Yeah, it really doesn't surprise me.
00:08:05
Speaker 1: The thing is, we don't have a control. There's no third party who.
00:08:09
Speaker 2: Says, actually, yes, that is true.
00:08:10
Speaker 4: And it's all in the eye of the beholder, isn't it? As a colleague always says, there's a lid for every pot. So who you find attractive, someone else might not, and vice versa.
00:08:21
Speaker 2: True.
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Speaker 4: Alf?
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Speaker 3: Well, it depends on the mirror. they're looking into, I think. The other thing was how I think later on in the story they said, oh yeah, and we're also very modest. And I was like, hmm.
00:08:37
Speaker 4: I'd like to see the results for New Zealand. I think New Zealand.
00:08:41
Speaker 3: Would break themselves down. We are more modest.
00:08:43
Speaker 2: Do you think we do the understatement thing like the British?
00:08:45
Speaker 4: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Where we are understated, we're conservative, we would say, oh, no, no, no, we're not hot, even though we're banging.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: 100%.
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Speaker 2: I think so too. Hey, good to see you both this morning. Thank you. Thank you very much.
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Speaker 1: That is our panel for your Tuesday morning. Al Filipaina, Auckland Councillor, and Stephanie Holmes, the Heroes Lifestyle Editor.
