Episode 6.37: Zero Prep, Questionable Direction

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Hey everybody, welcome to Rum and Nerdy.
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I'm Greg.
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And I'm Garrett.
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And it is episode 6.37, and I've got no fucking idea what we're going to talk about.
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No fucking idea.
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This this is worse than normal.
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Like, you know, usually we sit here and we say, oh, what are you talking about?
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Well, what have you watched?
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Been too busy.
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Like it's like, what have you done?
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Well, I worked.
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I worked a lot.
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I did put in some overtime.
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Yeah.
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Is that a conference call today?
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I actually several.
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I have kind of a concept of an idea.
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You have a concept of an idea?
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I've I've officially reached the point in the day where if I hear one more person mention workflow or pipeline, I might kill somebody.
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This is accurate.
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This is accurate.
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Or risk mitigation.
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That's a trigger for me lately.
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Do you have a do you have a risk mitigation pipeline?
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No, but we put a pin in it.
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Is it part of an activation strategy?
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No.
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It's a breakout conversation.
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We're taking this conversation.
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Yeah, we're gonna take it offline, yeah.
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So last week I was in LA um for work.
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Yeah, your corporate day gig.
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Yeah that's the that that should be the name of the episode.
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Corporate day gig.
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Yeah.
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But uh while I was out there, the themed entertainment association.
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I don't know, have we talked I wonder if the listeners are.
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We've we've mentioned the themed entertainment association.
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I think once or twice, maybe.
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So we uh we've been at work, uh we've been interviewing.
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We've been you've been you've been fenda rise up and get your hire on.
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Yeah, we've been yeah, hire up and get our so we've we've been uh interviewing and we've got a pretty good roster of candidates and and uh it's kind of interesting because there is a just a sloth of people like this sl like sloth that is sloth?
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It's a sloth slog it's a slog, a schlag, a slog.
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Are they are they mossy because there is a move slow?
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There is a plethora of individuals who have I don't I don't think this will help your your production pipeline strategy.
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No.
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But it it's kind of interesting because there's there is a large quantity of people who have applied for jobs who clearly did not ring the job description.
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Oh, yeah.
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Um but it it's kind of interesting.
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But we so w um Thursday of last night uh of last week.
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Thursday of last night.
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Shut up.
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There was a speed one of those uh TEA speed interviewing things.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And it was kind of interesting.
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You would like that.
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There was a whole lot of engineers there.
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Um because it was kind of engineering folks, but it was I I believe my my company had a representation.
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I nobody I recognized.
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I was kind of half expecting, but there was a table that said your company's letters on it.
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But it was it was held at ETC, Scott, where Scott works, our buddy Scott.
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We we've we've recorded there.
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Not at this one.
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Oh, new one?
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No, this is in Los Angeles.
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Oh sorry.
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Yes.
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Oh yeah.
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Freaking Yeah, so um it was kind of funny because it it's like here's the thing three minutes to interview somebody is just too short.
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And you know, my suggestion when you do these things is it's three minutes and then set a one-minute timer for people to shift because by the time you're like eight people in, you are already two minutes behind.
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And then it's like, hi, what's your name?
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Okay, move on.
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I I thought they I thought they always did that.
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They didn't this time.
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It was like three minutes, ring a bell.
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It feels like a problem.
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It feels like an LA problem.
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Well, at one point, we finally like we we were talking to this person, and it was late in the rotation, the two rounds of late in the round of rotation, and the guy that was next in line to us had finished up, and he just went around our table to the next table.
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And I made a joke.
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I'm like, yeah, it's probably the one guy we should have talked to.
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And then when we were all said and he comes over and talks to us, and it was the one guy Really?
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Yeah, he was um um production designer, he's worked on like a lot of film and TV stuff and um did some design work for um what for the Oscars set one year, and um truly remarkable.
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Um, you know, it and it it he wasn't didn't have a lot of experience in themed entertainment, but in theming and show set design, yeah, extraordinary amount of uh so it was really, really interesting.
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So we've and and really the only delta between entertainment and themed entertainment is sustainable and fireproof.
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Um will that last for a long time?
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Will it meet all of my fireproof standards?
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I I would um I would say that that is not completely accurate.
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But really, you wouldn't call that like the foundation of the big you know There might be, but show set specifically, like that's No, it's it's thematic and placemaking as opposed to like you know, because a lot of people are like, well, it's show set, I you know, um I'm not talking about I've got I'm not talking about from a master planning standpoint.
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I'm talking about it from like an oompa loompa, we're gonna go build it standpoint.
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Like it's the No.
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No, okay.
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No, no, no, because we we've had people who are like, well, you know, I've designed set for TV shows, but then it's like it's a game show, it's not the same thing as you know, designing Hogwarts or something like that.
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It's it's you know, it's it's a different kind of mentality.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, yes, yes, you're that is that is accurate.
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So in this process, we've kind of um Dan, my my new team member that we brought in a couple months ago, it's he like we're we've kind of like broken it down.
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It's like when we've been interviewing, we classify these folks as either creative or production.
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And that's fair.
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And and so and we've found that like we really we need a little bit of column A and a little column B.
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You do.
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By the way, I hope I don't get in trouble for having this conversation, but I mean whatever, probably not.
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Anyway, um because column A and column B, they they they both bring something very valid to the conversation.
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Absolutely, and you know, and our whole thing is we want to be able to promote the idea of us doing uh bittable show packages, so you need production people for that, but we also need you know highly creative people to do the thematic and the the narrative and all that stuff and the placemaking, and you know, it it it really combines well.
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So anyway, it's been really, really interesting.
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But this guy was I really liked his portfolio, it was really some good stuff.
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We had some just amazing candidates.
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Um looking forward to building up that roster off of the people that we met.
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Well over 400 people applied for four positions.
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Holy cow.
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Yeah.
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Really?
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Orlando-based or LA based?
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Uh mostly Orlando, um, a little bit or uh LA, and then randomly like people from all over the country.
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We actually had a couple that applied from outside the country and they would need work visas, so they um they were not ideal candidates because we're one, we're not, you know, the relocation thing is problematic, but anyway, um, but great candidates.
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Even the people that weren't necessarily qualified, there were some really good people on there.
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There was one that was really, really weird.
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It was awkward.
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The guy reached out to me on LinkedIn um and then was mad at me that we didn't accept his thing.
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It was like it was really quite mean.
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Wait, what?
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Yeah.
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I'll tell you that that's a conversation I don't want to have.
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An offline conversation.
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Okay, fair enough.
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Let's take let's take this into an offline conversation.
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We'll table this for now, put a pin in it, and we will look at the metrics of this, the composition.
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We need to future proof our conversation synergies.
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Yes.
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Anyway, so that was kind of fun.
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We out there and we got to go to ETC.
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Of course, Scott was on a trip with his lovely wife and was not working that week, or he probably would have been around.
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Oh, did but but he hosted the thing.
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ETC did.
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Oh, he was not there.
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He was he was not even in the United States, from what I understand.
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Oh, well, look at that.
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Well, congratulations, Scott, for not being in LA.
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I think he did a tag on from Iapa Europe and stayed in stayed over there.
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I think.
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I don't know.
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That'd be fun.
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Uh you know, it'd probably make it shit up.
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I've been known to do that from time to time.
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I I was talking to because my my dad was in uh Europe recently, and I'm like, you know what?
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I I need to just get off my ass and book something to Europe.
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Um uh Nick, like anybody Nick, uh we're planning a random trip to Mexico at some point in time.
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He's like, I've never been.
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It's right over there.
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We can get really cheap flights, we can get really cheap hotels.
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Like we should just take a long weekend and just go to Mexico.
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Not for nothing, but I got like 220,000 miles.
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That's it.
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That's a decent that that'll get me to Mexico.
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Oh Mexico.
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I'm just saying I'm inviting myself.
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Okay.
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Well, you should you should join our random guys' weekend in Mexico.
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We can call it a ruminer the weekend.
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We could, but then we're gonna have to invite other people.
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Nick's like, I'm gonna surprise you with a Mexico itinerary for some random weekend.
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I'm like, you know what?
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I I'm in.
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Okay.
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I can't wait to brush my teeth with cerveza.
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Because you're not allowed to drink the water.
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That's funny shit.
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Yeah.
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That's funny shit.
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I I went I once knew a guy that went to like Cancun for a bachelor party and caught cholera.
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Really?
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Yeah, isn't that something you would die from in the Middle Ages?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's like a that's a that's a that's a big deal.
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Yeah, so the the show Ghosts, it's a sitcom.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah with with all the dead people.
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Yeah.
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That they advertise like during Star Trek.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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All the people that live in their basement are all the people that died of cholera.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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Why do they live in the basement?
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It's because of the poop.
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Um because that's where they had the cholera people stay when they had cholera.
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Really?
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I guess in the basement?
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Yeah.
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They're all like wearing potato sacks and shit.
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By the way.
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By the way.
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I think so.
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One of the diarrhea.
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Yeah.
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It's like cholera and typhoid, and you know a handful of the things that you find in Oregon Trail.
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Yeah.
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One of the Montezuma's.
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Dysentery, that's the one I was looking for.
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One of the Montezumas.
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There's Montezuma Monte Montezuma's revenge.
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There's Montezuma.
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Huh?
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He probably deserved it.
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Montezuma's indifference.
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Montez Montezuma's karma's a bitch.
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God, I'm so glad we make us laugh.
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Oh, that's really all that count.
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We we only do this for us.
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Which is funny, uh, because we just hit um 28,000 downloads yesterday.
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Oh, very nice.
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Yeah, it's kind of fun.
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Oh, and you want to talk about PodCon?
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Uh, real fast, just to uh wrap up the thing.
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To wrap up the the the typhoid uh thing, yeah.
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Yeah, so um a lot of doctors things this week.
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So uh yesterday I had a a a treatment, the nerve treatment.
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So this really is directly tied to cholera, not like No.
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Okay, but this doctor stuff.
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But yeah, I had my second of my uh nerve branch, nerve.
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Oh, your neck your your nerve bris?
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Yeah.
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Well that the the official one is next.
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We had to go through two rounds of this, and I have not next week because, you know, say the week after.
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And this is where they they just sort of temporarily numb it to make sure that they're poke in the right spots.
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Yeah, the treatment that this was round two.
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You gotta do two rounds before you go to the permanent.
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But it's it's interesting because they've got like this little X-ray thing, and they x-ray as they stick needle into your back to make sure that they hit the nerve, and then they inject you with the numbing stuff.
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Which kind of interesting.
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Anyway, but when they do it for real, they go in and they do like electroshock.
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I think there's like an electroshock version and then like a cryo version.
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I'm getting the electro shock where they electrocute those nerves.
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The way Edison intended.
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Yes.
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I'm not saying there's a kite and a key, but there's kind of a kite and a key.
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I guess.
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Anyway, so and then I'm I'm kind of like dentist in the morning.
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Three doctors, three different today was a podiatrist.
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So, you know, I do you have a good podiatrist?
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I have a podiatrist.
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He's a certainly that they're nice enough staff.
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They're really nice people, but it's funny because I go all the of all the podiatrists you've visited recently is the most recent.
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Yeah, they're it's also the only one I've ever been to.
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But it's funny because they go in there like, well, you're you're diabetic.
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Well, it's well controlled, my humans, and like I'm not an insulin, and blah, blah.
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Well, you should come in every two months and let us cut your toenails.
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And I'm like, is this a fetish thing?
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Because like I can cut my toenails.
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I was like, no, no, no, no.
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Just in case you like you nick something, because you know, you're more prone to to infections and shit like that if you're diabetic.
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And then there's like diabetics typically have like poor circulation and nerve damage and things like that.
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And I'm like, my feet are always warm, I exude heat, heat, and and sandy, it drives her nuts because she's always cold and I'm always hot.
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And I'm like, and they do a little sound, okay.
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Close your eyes.
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I'm gonna tell me which toe I touch.
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My left big one, good job.
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You know, okay, now push against my hand.
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Now do that.
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And it's like it's this literally, I'm there for five minutes, and it's like you're doing these um I don't know, weird bar tricks for like five minutes with your feet.
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Bar tricks?
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Yeah, like are you ticklish?
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Not gent.
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Okay, that's a little ticklish.
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Okay, that's normal.
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Okay, good, good, good.
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Okay, now push outward on your okay, now push down, lift up on your toes.
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Okay, now wiggle all of your toes.
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Can you separate them?
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Cool.
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Can you uh now now hold a cigarette with this toe while you light it with the other foot?
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It's just weird shit.
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Uh lean back in the chair while we watch this Quentin Tarantino movie.
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Yes.
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So it's all this weird shit, and and then they go, yeah, like, yeah, you shouldn't be cutting your own toenails.
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I'm like, this might might like should I pick a color and bring a nail polish?
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Like, it's the weirdest damn thing, but I have to do it.
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I was gonna ask you for your your podiatrist information.
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I don't think I want to anymore.
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I feel like I need to get a completely different one and then we can compare.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it's kind of kind of weird.
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Anyway, they're nice guys.
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Like it was it's it's and it's funny.
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Nice guy's just weird.
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I well, the whole experience is weird.
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And I'm yes, it's hyperbole, and I'm making fun.
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And there's reasons they test all these things, but to me it's just like it it reminds me of that friend's episode where uh with with where Chandler went to Joey's Taylor.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, no.
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That is how they check the inseam in prison.
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Yeah.
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Show me on the foot diagram where he touched you.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Anyway, that was my medical thing.
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Oh, nice.
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Now now you do the thing you were gonna talk about.
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I was just gonna talk about PodCon.
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Yes.
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Podcon.
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I mean, technically it's Podfest.
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Podfest 27.
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Yeah, so humorously, and was it early this year or late last year?
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At some point in the past.
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It was last year because it was dated last year.
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And I pulled it out.
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I just this last week, I think on Monday, I got an email from Podfest, aka PodCon.
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And I like PodCon a lot better.
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I think I'm gonna rebrand it.
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I think we're gonna call it that on stage, but uh yeah.
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They were doing call for papers, and so I went, I'm like, yeah, yeah, we should totally do it because like for anybody who didn't listen to the episode, we randomly asked AI, the AI that we use regularly, and we have slowly trained it to understand the brand of snark and humor that we do, and we said, here's the here's the link to the website for submissions.
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It's a it's a f it's effectively our podcast secretary.
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Effectively.
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We we the compose a memo.
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It's that level of yeah.
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And by the way, it is exactly the right use for AI.
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Nobody's paying for any of this crap.
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Makes it a little easier, whatever.
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Yeah.
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So um, but it's funny because uh the updated it says don't have AI write your thing.
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That this year's year's submission.
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Yeah, this year it's like you you may not.
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So I'm like, okay, well, I'll I'll rewrite it.
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I have to imagine they get a lot of garbage.
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I uh absolutely, absolutely.
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Because okay, well, I'll I'll I have another I have an AR gar garbage story, okay, but I'll I'll I'll tell it after this one.
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Anyway, I go in and I completely rework it and I write it out and and I put a lot of heart into it, right?
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You you yeah, re- re- rewrite the entire thing, but this time in like third person.
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It wasn't even that.
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Like I I genuinely um I I I really try to put it in our voice and and and clarify because they're you know that what they're targeting is it's different, it's not the same thing this year.
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So, you know, it was really like kind of apply that.
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But the whole thing that the AI wrote for us a year ago was the concept of our zero prep podcast.
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This episode exactly that.
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Like we we couldn't even think of what we're gonna talk about when we hit record.
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We had this is this one is completely, you know, every topic, everything is made up as we go.
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And it's like the the the more we sit there and like, oh, we need to come up with a theme or come up with a plan, like well, that's just gonna make it suck.
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Just to hit record, start word vomiting, and we'll see where it takes us.
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Yeah, and you know, five years ago, we couldn't do that.
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We couldn't do this.
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I you know what I think we could.
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We just we didn't have the confidence to do it.
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It didn't have the confidence, it wasn't it wasn't part of the plan.
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Like, oh no, you have to record a thing and it's gotta be produced and you have to make it sound bad.
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Yeah.
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So here's our submission.
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Um, it's different this year.
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This we're um we're submitted for a breakout session.
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It's not like in the main thing, I don't think, anyway.
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But it's called Zero Zero Prep Podcasting.
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Stop trying to sound like a podcast.
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Ooh, that's the name of the thing.
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Most podcasters that's perfect.
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We've not been sounding like a podcast this whole time.
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Most podcasters spend a lot of time trying to figure out how a podcast is supposed to sound.
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We took the opposite approach.
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We call what we do zero prep podcasting, but zero prep does not mean zero intent, zero research, or zero effort.
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We are voracious consumers of movies and television, uh, deeply involved in themed entertainment and related industry, and we bring all of that to our conversations.
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After more than 280 episodes, yeah, this is episode 283.
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Nice.
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After over 280 episodes of Rum and Nerdy, Greg and Garrick uh have learned that audiences respond to people who sound like themselves.
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The show is built around chemistry, curiosity, spontaneous conversations, and the willingness to follow a tangent when it gets uh follow the follow tangent when it gets interesting.
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There is no guarantee that every episode will be amazing, but that's not the point.
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The point is that the show remains authentic, and over time that authentic authenticity brings the host uh helps the host develop a voice that is genuinely their own.
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We've learned that our best episodes usually happen when we stop worrying about how it sounds or we stop worrying about it sounding like podcasters and start talking about the things we generally are excited about.
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This session breaks down how we do that, what works, what fails, and how other creators can find their own version of this approach.
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We talk about knowing enough about your subject to have something worthy of saying without turning preparation into a script, and how leaving the room, uh leaving room for the unexpected can create some of the most memorable parts of a show.
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Uh finally, attendees will leave the uh with a practical way to identify their own podcast voice, making authentic uh uh make authentic an asset instead of an excuse and create sustainable approach to producing episodes without burning out.
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The goal is not copy zero prep podcasting, is to understand why it works for us and figuring out what version of that freedom can work for you.
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I think you need to add more synergistic pipelines to it.
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And M-dashes.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Um, you know, and it goes into some other stuff, but it is like really, you know, it I think that this is valuable for these this group.
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One, yes.
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Two, we have over a hundred episodes more than Star Trek the Next Generation.
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Yeah.
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There are more hours of rum and nerdy than there are Star Trek the Next Generation.
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Which in and of itself is pretty cool.
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But the here's what's funny, it's like we looked up the metrics a long, long time ago.
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Oh, yeah.
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Like like 50% of all podcasts never make it past five episodes.
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Which I think I think that's a numinator-denominator statement.
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I think there are more people that start like, hey, I'm gonna hit record, see where this takes me, than there are people that have a plan or an intent.
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I think that it's just the number is so vast of people that start.
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I think that it yeah, I think it's yes, people that start and then they worry about getting these huge audiences.
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They g they worry about monetizing it, they worry about all of the things I mean, and they're valid, they're valid concerns, I guess.
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But my point is Um instead of us constantly worrying about running out of things to talk about, we just have to.
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Hang out and talk.
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You know, it it this has been like we have to enjoy this.
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We have to enjoy each other's company.
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We have to enjoy the conversations and the debates, the joke, the humors, the places that we go and the people that we've invited in to participate with us.
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We have to enjoy this for us to put out better than 45 episodes in 52 weeks a year.
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Our consistency is so high, and the number of episodes shows in that because this was never a part-time job.
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This is something you and I genuinely do because we fucking love to sit down and do this.
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We love it when we get feedback from people, when people argue with us about points we've made.
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That's authentic.
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That's like I I I I really enjoy meeting strangers at conventions and things.
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And like, oh dude, you're talking about this thing on episode, whatever, and I'm like, who are you?
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Yeah.
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Like going to a distillery in Hawaii and the guys heard of our show.
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Like weird things like that, but it it comes down to it.
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It's like the library that we have is so extensive, and it happens.
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And again, they're not all great.
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We should pull together, yeah.
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Well, the yeah, they are not all great.
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I'll give you that.
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And so will most of our audience.
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But we should pull some metrics.
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Um, you know, in the event that we get asked to participate in podcon.
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Um, pull some metrics out.
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Like, how many countries have we recorded in?
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How many states have we we recorded in?
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Not downloads, I know that I don't know it'll give you downloads, but I mean we you know, we've we've recorded from some pretty amazing places and we've interviewed some pretty amazing people for this not being a paid gig.
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Yeah, for this not being a planned thing, for this yeah.
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It's crazy because you know, we've we've uh interviewed an Oscar winner.
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We did.
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We've interviewed actors and you know, people who are funny and people who are smart and Andy several times.
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Um you know, we had an intern that that participated for a whole year.
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Um we've got you know our one of our best friends, Dave, who participates from afar, you know, and you know, he and Shannon even surprised us with a whole episode.
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They're talking about doing another one.
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That was great.
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They're like, would would that be okay?
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I'm like, that would be fantastic.
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Do it.
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Oh, that'd be a yeah, you know, for us to be able to take a week off and like not stress when we're traveling so much.
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And their episode was really good too.
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It was it was it was really good.
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And it's everything you need to know about Las Vegas, everything you need to know.
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It was such a good insider.
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Like, if we had listeners in in all of our cities, like, hey, we're throwing this one together for you.
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Yeah.
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So um 28, yeah, we're at 20,000, and just over 28,000.
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Here's fun eighty-four percent of our uh listeners, uh 84% of our downloads have been in North America.
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Um less than one percent, but out of all those 194 downloads in South America, 89 in Africa, 1% of all downloads, Oceana, which is uh, you know, Australia, New Zealand, that's awesome.
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1% of all of our downloads has been in Oceana.
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We we have we have some good friends in uh in the Oceana region.
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Um here's fun 7% in Asia and 5% in Europe.
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I would have thought Europe would have more listeners, but we have more listenership in Asia than we do.
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But uh You know what?
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Big shout out to all of our Asian listeners.
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Yeah.
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But that's like 16% of our of our downloads have been internationally done.
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That's fun.
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Yeah um, you know, and um let's see, all countries Canada, United Kingdom, India, Singapore, Germany, Japan, Hong Kong, Vietnam, Netherlands.
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Um you know, most of the cities, the top cities are all like Central Florida, mostly Las Vegas.
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Uh 2% of all downloads have been from Las Vegas.
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We're big in Vegas.
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Um nearly 500 from North Bergen, New Jersey.
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No idea who's there.
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Dallas.
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Shout out, New Jersey! North Charleston, South Carolina, 336 downloads from Singapore.
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319 from uh from uh from Frankfurt.
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I think wasn't the only continent we didn't have a download from Antarctica.
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Yeah, but this doesn't give a metric for that.
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It might have happened.
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Damn it.
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But their metrics, I mean it might be part of Oceana, but um Oh what we're just gonna lump in the entire continent of Antarctica.
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Yeah, for the for the 15 penguins in one guy, yeah.
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Yeah, but that one guy could be an avid listener.
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Could he's listened to it all twice.
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Um I'm looking for like a weird place.
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104 from Green Bay.
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104 from Saskatoon.
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Saskatoon.
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Saskatoon.
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Actually, there was that uh that tiki bar in Green Bay reached out to us that time.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Milwaukee.
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82 downloads from Wellington.
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That's awesome.
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Some friends, our friends there.
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That's great.
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Um 65 from from Honoi.
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Nice.
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Yes.
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62 from Auckland.
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Uh 60 from Ho Chi Minh City.
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From 60 from Ho Chi Minh City.
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Check us out.
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International.
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This is pretty crazy.
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I have not really those are some those are actually some really fun metrics.
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Uh, I'm gonna say there's a Chennai Tamil Nadu.
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I don't know where that is, but that's fun.
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It's fun to say.
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Kyoto 47 from Kayoto in Japan.
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How many of these are actual locations?
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And uh okay, so I'm assuming that you use two-factor authentication in your in your corporate world.
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Yeah.
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Have you ever logged in and started the authentication process and the geographic location it says, oh, have you just tried signing in from you know Google Chrome in this city, and it's way the hell nowhere near where you're at?
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I've had like a strange, like I've gotten the alerts where it's like, are you trying to sign in from you know sometimes it'll be me in the process and it'll say like the name of my phone or the name of my computer, but it's like somewhere in New Jersey or in North Carolina, and I'm like, I'm just a s or Chicago.
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Like, I'm assuming there's a data center there that's relaying this information because it is actually me trying to log in.
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I wonder how many, how, how much, how much, if any, of these are The Hague South Holland.
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The Hague.
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Rome.
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They're watching you.
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Um I'm like down into the like 15 downloads from blah, blah, blah.
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I'm trying to Yeah, that but the fact that I don't know.
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I don't I don't know if I like the fact that someone from The Hague has been listening to us.
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It's like, no, we're investigating Romaner for crimes against humanity.
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This is true.
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Sussex Inlet, New South Wales.
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Hi, Chris.
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I assume.
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Uh Leeds plain really Nairobi.
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Nairobi.
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There's ten downloads from Nairobi.
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Love Nairobi.
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Uh ten from and I uh I'm gonna put Theruvanathaparam Karula.
00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:47.440
That's a really long word.
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T H T H I R U V A-N-A-N-T-H-A-P-U-R-A-M.
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Country origin?
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Uh it just says that's the thing, comma Corolla.
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K-E-R-A-L-A.
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Huh.
00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:07.279
Wherever the hell that is.
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:09.599
I yeah, just send me this list.
00:30:09.680 --> 00:30:10.640
I wanna I want to look that up.
00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:15.599
If only there's a way for me to click this app.
00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:16.319
Anyway.
00:30:16.640 --> 00:30:20.079
Cut and paste, put that there, carry the one.
00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:24.480
Um it is Look at that.
00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:25.359
India?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It is near the southern tip of um India, just across the waterway from uh Sri Lanka.
00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:38.000
I've always wanted to go to Sri Lanka.
00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:39.279
Isn't that where Arthur C.
00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:40.079
Clarke lived?
00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:40.960
I don't know.
00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:42.720
What do you mean you don't know?
00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:43.200
I don't know.
00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:44.559
I thought everybody knew Arthur C.
00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:45.039
Clarke.
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He lived in uh yeah, Sri Lanka, I think.
00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:47.839
Okay.
00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:49.200
Like he retired there.
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After he invented the communication satellite in wrote 2001.
00:30:54.799 --> 00:30:55.119
Okay.
00:30:57.119 --> 00:30:59.039
See if there's any other like weird places.
00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:01.200
Liddits, Pennsylvania, that's fun.
00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:03.599
North Hollywood.
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Yeah.
00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:07.759
Down to, I wonder what's the last one on the list.
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:11.599
Yeah, I was about to say reading this particular list, I feel like it's run its course.
00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:14.240
Well, yeah, but it's God, it's long.
00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:15.839
It's a long list, too.
00:31:16.079 --> 00:31:19.599
Uh the last one with one download.
00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:22.160
Brookline, Massachusetts.
00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:27.599
This other okay, so the the one right above that.
00:31:28.079 --> 00:31:28.559
Brook Mass.
00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:29.839
Yanglier.
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That sounds like that thing in the back of your throat.
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:34.160
It's better than Yanglia.
00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:36.079
Yeah.
00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:38.000
This this okay, so this place is.
00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:40.799
Okay, last last one, last one last one we map, okay.
00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:41.440
Okay.
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:45.359
This one is Ooh.
00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:48.160
What the fuck?
00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:51.119
It is in um.
00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:54.799
Is it a Baltic state?
00:31:54.960 --> 00:31:56.160
Where are we where are you on there?
00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:00.160
Yeah, it is uh it's in one of the stands.
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:01.039
Nice.
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:08.480
Uh it is the eastern side of Zubekistan near the border of Krages.
00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:10.799
I don't know.
00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:13.680
But it's it's in between the three stands.
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:19.839
Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, and Kroisanthan stan.
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And underneath Kazakhstan.
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We have never sounded more American than right now.
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But above Afghanistan and Pakistan.
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:30.400
So it's like right in the middle of all the stands.
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:30.799
Okay.
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:32.799
I'm just gonna call it Central Stan.
00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:33.759
Okay.
00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:34.799
Central Stan?
00:32:35.039 --> 00:32:35.839
Central Stan.
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We have one download from Central Stan.
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That's pretty good.
00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:39.920
Yeah.
00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:42.240
Anyway, yeah.
00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:43.920
So it's pretty fucking crazy.
00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:44.720
That's cool.
00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:48.079
Yeah, I'm I'm I'm really looking forward.
00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:52.400
Well, one, I'm looking forward to going back to Podfest because it's been a while since we've attended.
00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:53.920
Yeah, three years, I think.
00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:58.559
And um the last two years it was overlapping SPM.
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:00.960
Oh, yeah, that's right.
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:05.359
And since now, you know, don't need to go.
00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:06.400
Neither of us.
00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:06.880
Yeah.
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:10.400
It's so weird that neither of us are gonna be on a board.
00:33:11.359 --> 00:33:14.000
Have you thought about like rerunning for a divisional board or anything?
00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:14.319
No.
00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:15.200
Like you just done.
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Yeah.
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You did your time.
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Uh-huh.
00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:17.440
Yeah.
00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:23.920
Because the divisional board, I mean, really, you you know, you contribute in the divisional boards.
00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:25.039
Oh, sure, sure.
00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:26.480
It's more member engaging.
00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:35.440
And then you you you know, you're really part of the miss well, you get to participate at a higher level in the international board.
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:37.200
Strategic and policy.
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:38.079
It is.
00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:44.400
Uh yeah, and then just going back to the divisional boards, it's like, you know what, I I don't need to print name tags.
00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:46.880
Like, I just I'm I'm I'm I'm kind of done.
00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:49.839
Uh, I think I think that's oversimplifying it.
00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:57.839
Like, I I enjoyed the content creation and like doing things that I really felt created member benefit.
00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:00.400
Like the things that touched members specifically.
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:04.880
Like, think about like you and I redefined what Explorers is.
00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:18.320
One of the cornerstone um travel events for the association uh when it was rebranded to Explorers, like so I I'm trying to figure out an eloquent way to put this.
00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:28.480
When you were producing an event, you felt very connected to the membership, and you're like, I made a thing, enjoy this thing I made.
00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:33.519
And and there's there's a level of participation, there's a level of interaction, it was very fulfilling.
00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:48.800
Everything else past that, or everything you know, kind of beyond it, it felt nebulous, and there was the percentage of what you were doing that felt like you were just screaming into the void was definitely higher.
00:34:49.119 --> 00:35:03.360
Hey, I think this would be a good a good strategy to optimize this workflow, and then you just sort of go it ascends to the international board level, and nothing ever became of it.
00:35:03.599 --> 00:35:06.880
Or maybe it would, or maybe it wouldn't.
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:12.719
Nobody knows, but it would it just it it felt like there's a lot of nothing happening.
00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:14.079
Maybe.
00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:19.679
Maybe I just felt that I would I would produce an event.
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:30.880
I what I would what I'd similar to you know, I think when when you were not on a board and I was just on Eastern and we produced a handful of explorers.
00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:32.880
Yeah, when we were doing the events committee.
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I would love to just completely outside of an official committee thing, just hey, we're gonna produce one Explorers a year, and we're gonna make it a kick-ass explorers event, sort of not beholden to anybody.
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Hey, we're gonna run the budget, we're gonna get all the contacts, we're gonna put everything together, we're gonna play by your rules, but we're gonna we're gonna do all of this, it's gonna kick ass, and then leave us alone, and you just kind of you think they would let us do that much work without oversight.
00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:14.800
I think there'd be some level of oversight, but I think you know the proper I think there would be the proper amount of oversight.
00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:20.639
I think we'd have to bundle it and go and and pitch it and say, hey, here's here's the plan, here's the budget, here's what it's gonna cost, here's what it, you know.
00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:21.280
Oh yeah.
00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:22.559
Oh, 100%.
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:24.559
We've got it sponsored, blah, blah, blah.
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Yeah.
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And I think and I think if we if we put all that together and said, hey, we're just gonna go do this.
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:34.239
Yeah, I'm I'm I'm pretty I'm pretty sure.
00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:35.519
Put you in the hot seat.
00:36:35.679 --> 00:36:35.920
Okay.
00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:43.840
You and I, next year, we do an explorers completely on our own, anywhere in North America.
00:36:44.639 --> 00:36:45.280
Where?
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Anywhere in North America.
00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:53.119
It's gotta be something that will have a draw.
00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:55.360
So it's gotta have things to experience.
00:36:56.800 --> 00:37:02.239
But something that's like, oh yeah, this is you know, great, yeah, this is Greg and Greg, they did this.
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:02.880
Yeah.
00:37:03.519 --> 00:37:05.760
I mean you gotta start off with something memorable.
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:07.519
Yeah.
00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:14.400
I'm not hearing a lot of noise.
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I'm thinking.
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I would have fun with Nashville.
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I would have fun.
00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:27.280
Nashville's Nashville's cool, but it's been done.
00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:30.320
Vegas is cool, but it's been done.
00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:30.719
Yeah.
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:33.119
Like Vegas has technically had two.
00:37:33.519 --> 00:37:34.079
Yeah.
00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:45.679
Well, with with actual Saint and then the Explorers event, and then Well, and no, there was there was an Explorers I thought there was a two Explorers.
00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:50.239
Because there was the pop-up Explorers that just happened this last year.
00:37:53.920 --> 00:38:05.599
Where it was like one it was the Universal Horror Unleashed, and then it was like the um Bob Marley thing, and and then like a bunch of stuff started popping up around it.
00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:10.000
I imagine we could do something maybe in like the the the Bay area.
00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:15.599
We did although although we did do we did do a uh a saint up there one year.
00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:18.480
Did we?
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Yeah.
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CalArts?
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:22.719
That's not the Bay.
00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:25.199
Cal Arts is Santa Clarita.
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:27.360
That's north uh north of the valley.
00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:28.800
That's the LA region.
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:33.440
Maybe we didn't do anything in the Bay Area.
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:37.119
Furthest north that like that has been done in recent times.
00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:40.559
Furthest north over there was um Seattle.
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:44.400
Yeah.
00:38:46.000 --> 00:39:01.119
And Seattle was interesting because the Seattle event was one of those events where like there were some big ticket venues and there's some there was some big ticket stuff going on, but I I feel like the the event missed critical mass.
00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:07.519
Yeah, um, I don't think that one was particularly well reviewed.
00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:11.199
Um, but there were some really good extracurriculars and stuff stuff there.
00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:11.840
No, no, no.
00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:13.039
There absolutely were.
00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:20.400
But and uh, and that's why when I'm going through the list of like locations in my head, I don't want to say, well, we could visit this venue or that venue.
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:24.000
It's like, yeah, you you have to have more than just the one icon.
00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:34.320
And maybe and maybe Seattle, maybe Seattle could have pulled off an explorers better than it better than it did a full-blown SAT.
00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:35.360
I don't know.
00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:39.599
You just you just have to make sure that you can that the event hits critical mass wherever you go.
00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:40.239
Sure.
00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:42.320
Um I also want to add caveat.
00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:46.159
Um SAIT and Explorers are com wildly different.
00:39:46.239 --> 00:39:47.920
Um they they are.
00:39:48.159 --> 00:39:54.880
They are, and and I and I was only using them or speaking them in the same breath due to the the destination.
00:39:55.599 --> 00:39:58.480
No, I get it um aspect of it.
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:04.960
I I I'm I'm just pointing out because Explorers is more about the destination, and SAID is more about the host.
00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:05.920
Yeah.
00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:14.239
Um, but this year, you know, SAIT this year being in um New Orleans, it's you know, it it's about the host city.
00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:20.719
You know, because the the theme um uh cultural authenticity is building blocks, yeah.
00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:22.559
Perfect for New Orleans.
00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:29.679
I mean, like specifically in the context of Kate uh of SAIT, storytelling, architecture, technology.
00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:35.760
So the story and architecture of New Orleans is so unique.
00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:47.840
You know, the all the the the architecture, the building, everything there, uh that gothic, the um it it is it is so like you you look at it and it's like, yeah, this is this is nor New Orleans.
00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:50.400
It it's unlike any other place in the United States.
00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:54.800
But culturally, past the architecture, there's so much story.
00:40:54.880 --> 00:41:08.320
And uh one of the the keynotes next week, Barry Kern from uh Kern Studios, Kern Company, uh Mardi Gras World, um, Barry tells the story, unlike anybody I've ever heard.
00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:18.320
He really explains the culture and the history of Mardi Gras and how that has built from the fiber, the DNA of what the culture of New Orleans is.
00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:19.519
It's so fascinating.
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:23.119
So I think you're gonna really, really love uh his presentation.
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:29.199
But um then I actually enjoy listening to the presentations this year because I'm not working the friggin' stage.
00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:29.920
Weird.
00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:30.639
But no.
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:36.960
So but him him speaking, but you know, you talk about I mean, obviously people, oh Mardi Gar, you go in there and you drink.
00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:41.360
There, outside of just drinking a lot, there's a legitimate drink culture.
00:41:41.599 --> 00:41:52.480
You know, you know, mixology and and and drinks and and libations that were invented there and really, or if not invented, really sharpened and honed uh and became part of that brand.
00:41:52.639 --> 00:42:03.360
The food of New Orleans, you know, you've got like that Cajun and Creole food of that region uh are very unique and they're so tied to the culture.
00:42:03.599 --> 00:42:06.800
The ingredients tie back to the history of the people there.
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:08.559
It's so fascinating things.
00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:14.480
It's just like we could probably do Toronto.
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:17.039
It's been done recently.
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:18.079
Oh, has it?
00:42:18.639 --> 00:42:19.519
Yeah, James did it.
00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:20.079
Oh.
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:22.079
Well, thanks, James.
00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:23.119
Totally took my idea.
00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:24.159
It was awesome.
00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:26.960
One of my favorite things there was uh Little Canada.
00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:28.159
Damn it.
00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:29.679
You didn't go to that, did you?
00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:30.719
I didn't kind of go to that.
00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:32.639
Little Canada was awesome.
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:40.079
Um there was um the uh we s we went into one of the music venues that we went to.
00:42:40.639 --> 00:42:47.360
I was standing on the I I texted you, I was on the stage where um I want to say it was 2112 was recorded.
00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:48.800
Oh, yeah, you told me, yeah.
00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:49.519
Yeah, remember that.
00:42:49.760 --> 00:42:52.320
It's like so there's some really, really cool stuff.
00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:53.920
Yeah.
00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:56.800
I think um I but I like where you're going.
00:42:56.880 --> 00:43:00.800
Like think outside of uh of the continental US.
00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:04.880
Yeah, because uh Montreal was was really good.
00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:07.840
Um Explores Cuba.
00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:10.480
Explores Puerto Rico.
00:43:11.039 --> 00:43:15.440
I would love to do Cuba.
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:20.320
Have to go over that whole communism thing, but I I bet I betcha.
00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:22.559
It's been harder to go back.
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:24.079
I've had some friends that have gone.
00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:24.639
Yeah.
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:25.119
Yeah.
00:43:25.360 --> 00:43:29.039
And it's it's it's it's kind of outstanding.
00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:33.119
There there's there might be a way to Oh man.
00:43:33.599 --> 00:43:35.360
I really want to go to Cuba.
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:38.960
There might be a way to do that.
00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:45.679
I don't know, just because of the logistics of it, I don't know if that's something that the organization could tie to.
00:43:46.320 --> 00:43:49.840
Because there's there's you know, there's some hiccups there.
00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:50.880
There is.
00:43:51.039 --> 00:43:59.840
You'd almost have to do it like, no, no, no, it's part of a part of the Explorer's experience is participating in humanitarian aid.
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:01.920
You know, or something.
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:10.800
And then like, hey, every everybody that you have to buy a ticket to the event and and some canned food, and then go like there's I don't know.
00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:15.840
There might be a way to work it out to where But uh like as Americans are we even allowed to go there right now?
00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:17.840
Right now I probably not.
00:44:18.480 --> 00:44:18.719
Yeah.
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:21.360
I don't know if you knew this or not, but now sucks.
00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:27.199
Now is later, later might suck less, but now sucks a lot.
00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:28.960
Yes.
00:44:29.440 --> 00:44:31.519
Now is I mean, yeah, scary.
00:44:33.519 --> 00:44:35.119
Vote like your life depended on.
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:37.440
Has it ever been worse than right now?
00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:42.480
Um I'm sure it has.
00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:44.639
But not in our lifetime.
00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:45.280
Yeah.
00:44:48.960 --> 00:44:50.719
Strange things are afoot at the circle K.
00:44:51.840 --> 00:44:54.800
Other than that, um, yeah, some somewhere in the islands would be fun.
00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:55.440
Cuba.
00:44:55.519 --> 00:44:56.000
Ooh.
00:44:56.880 --> 00:44:58.480
TEA explores Cuba.
00:44:58.559 --> 00:45:02.079
I feel like that's now it's a thing.
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:04.000
I got you percolating.
00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:05.840
I see.
00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:08.960
And the TEA is an international organization.
00:45:09.599 --> 00:45:13.840
So Melissa, we're gonna do a thing.
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:16.800
Yeah, I betcha, I betcha our Chinese friends have more pull over there.
00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:19.360
We could probably pull that off.
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:27.039
I mean, I think I have no doubt that you and I are capable of shitting an event anywhere in the world.
00:45:27.199 --> 00:45:28.000
And that could prove it.
00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:30.639
This this could be the thing that like told you.
00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:34.079
You know, anybody's like, oh yeah, but you know, no, told you.
00:45:34.400 --> 00:45:35.920
I uh you know what?
00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:38.800
I think that's I think that's it.
00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:40.400
I think that's it.
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:41.840
Shoot for the moon.
00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:45.360
And in this case, the moon's Cuba.
00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:51.039
But we got to orbit, and then we burned up on re-entry.
00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:54.400
Code name Luna Libre.
00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:55.840
Yeah.
00:45:56.639 --> 00:46:00.719
Code name East Puerto Rico.
00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:02.800
East Puerto Rico.
00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:05.840
That's what I meant.
00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:06.559
Yeah.
00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:07.360
Yeah.
00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:10.480
I think it's a really good one.
00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:12.960
TEA Explorers Puerto Rico wink wink.
00:46:13.199 --> 00:46:14.639
TEA Explorers Habana.
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:20.320
Actually, just our luck it would end up being TEA Explorers Guantanamo.
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:24.800
If we don't pull it off, that's where it's gonna be.
00:46:26.960 --> 00:46:28.079
Yeah, you know what?
00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:30.320
That's I'm doing that.
00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:32.320
I'm gonna put some I'm gonna put some effort into that one.
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:34.239
That's a really good idea.
00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:35.519
Cool.
00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:37.199
Okay.
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:38.880
There we go.
00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:43.599
The other idea I would have is uh T explore Tiki.
00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:48.239
But it'd be hard to get critical mass in one city.
00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:53.119
Um yeah, just just tiki in general.
00:46:53.679 --> 00:47:03.440
Although we've been talking about doing something uh yeah, we've been talking about kind of stuff at Mike I so um they just like did a huge new totem thing.
00:47:03.679 --> 00:47:04.239
They did.
00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:05.840
They did, yeah.
00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:07.920
We gotta we gotta get down there.
00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:12.320
We haven't been down there um but we haven't been down there this week, and so it's been too long.
00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:28.239
Oh I was talking to a uh friend of ours who just uh recently started over at Herschend, and um we were talking he he was talking about going down there because he's he's big into Tiki tiki culture, and I'm like, yeah, we should plan a row because he he recently moved to the Greater Orlando area.
00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:31.039
I'm like, we should we should get on uh Mikeai sometime.
00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:35.199
So there's somebody I was talking to recently who's from there and never heard of it.
00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:35.920
Wait, what?
00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:39.119
Yeah, it was it's like from from Fort Lauderdale, likes Tiki.
00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:41.039
I'm like, you haven't heard of the Mikeai.
00:47:41.280 --> 00:47:44.400
Hold on, from Fort Lauderdale and Likes Tiki?
00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:46.159
Trying to remember who it was.
00:47:48.639 --> 00:47:48.960
Yeah.
00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:49.440
Wow.
00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:50.559
We'll have to figure it out.
00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:51.039
Yeah.
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:53.039
Shit.
00:47:54.079 --> 00:47:58.559
Because here's what I know is that next year I've got bandwidth available.
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:05.360
Well, next year we're gonna be planning a Cuba event.
00:48:05.679 --> 00:48:09.280
Maybe next year is the year that we monetize this podcast.
00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:10.800
From Cuba.
00:48:11.119 --> 00:48:12.000
From Cuba.
00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:14.320
I think it's a good idea.
00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:14.800
Yeah.
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:17.119
I'm excited for this thing.
00:48:19.199 --> 00:48:22.400
I haven't seen you like really like, ooh, I'm gonna think Maserati.
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:23.119
This could be great.
00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:29.679
Every now and then I need an impossible task to hyperfixate on, and and this really seems like one.
00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:33.760
That'd be fun.
00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:36.239
Anything worth doing is worth overdoing.
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:37.760
That's what I always say.
00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:38.480
Yeah.
00:48:38.639 --> 00:48:39.920
Well, there you go.
00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:45.760
Anyway, uh speaking overdoing it, I think this podcast episode is just about done.
00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:49.920
For not having a clue what we were gonna talk about up until hitting record.
00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:50.800
Yeah.
00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:53.199
Like and more so than normal.
00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:54.079
Yeah.
00:48:55.840 --> 00:48:56.719
Want some rum?
00:48:56.880 --> 00:48:58.320
That's called self-confidence.
00:48:58.480 --> 00:48:59.519
I'm actually okay.
00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:00.800
There you go.
00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:01.760
20 minutes ago.
00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:02.559
I wanted rum.
00:49:02.639 --> 00:49:02.880
Right now?
00:49:03.280 --> 00:49:03.440
Really?
00:49:03.519 --> 00:49:03.599
No?
00:49:03.840 --> 00:49:04.159
I'm okay.
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:05.360
No, no rum on the kick?
00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:05.679
Okay.
00:49:06.559 --> 00:49:09.199
We need we need uh we need to come up with a rum forward episode.
00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:19.280
I believe Tommy has some really fancy, hard to find rum that he was going to bring us some time ago that he got.
00:49:20.719 --> 00:49:23.920
We need to have him back on the show specifically to try that one rum.
00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:25.519
Here's a couple things.
00:49:26.320 --> 00:49:32.559
Do we need to put the Ho Ho Home Rum bar tour on our radar for this year?
00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:33.760
I think we should.
00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:34.400
Okay.
00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:43.280
Umestly, like um, once we get to December, I think I've got one LA trip and then I'm done for the year.
00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:44.960
In regards to travel.
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:45.360
Okay.
00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:54.000
Oh, that all of this when I said before we recorded, I think I had a slight I like a s a notion of an idea of a concept of something to talk about.
00:49:54.400 --> 00:49:55.280
I haven't brought it up yet.
00:49:55.440 --> 00:49:55.760
Okay.
00:49:56.320 --> 00:49:59.920
I want to start planning the the hot rod build.
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:05.039
And I think the one you've been threatening us with for a couple years now?
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:11.679
Well, I you know, I bought the car and then I didn't want to cut it up because you sold the car, which was the right move.
00:50:11.760 --> 00:50:14.639
I I back your decision in getting rid of that car.
00:50:14.880 --> 00:50:15.360
Yeah.
00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:16.559
That was the right call.
00:50:16.719 --> 00:50:19.760
And I'd get to drive it before I got rid of it, so there's that.
00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:22.960
All it needed was a new battery and some green.
00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:24.480
I ran mostly.
00:50:24.719 --> 00:50:25.199
Yeah.
00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:26.800
It drove like a charm.
00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:28.400
It's like, holy shit.
00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:30.559
Why didn't it do this when Garrick was here?
00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:32.320
Because it knew that I was here.
00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:33.119
Right.
00:50:33.519 --> 00:50:33.920
Anyway.
00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:34.639
Jerk car.
00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:37.840
I'm gonna I wanna just start talking about that.
00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:39.760
Let's do it.
00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:40.639
Awesome.
00:50:40.880 --> 00:50:41.440
Cool.
00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:44.480
With all that said, thanks, Dave.
00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:47.119
Dummadavepro.com.
00:50:47.599 --> 00:50:48.559
We love that guy.
00:50:48.719 --> 00:50:50.079
And he's not gonna be at SAT.
00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:50.559
I'm so mad.
00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:57.920
We're gonna miss you, but we will appreciate the added downloads from the greater Las Vegas area.
00:50:58.239 --> 00:50:58.960
Absolutely.
00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:03.679
Um so uh yeah, Dave, you can check us out on our website, rumandnerdy.com.
00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:06.000
That's rum and dnerdy.com.
00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:08.719
Socials at rum and nerdy, most platforms.
00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:13.039
You can check us out, or you can email us at uh show at rum and nerdy.com.
00:51:13.119 --> 00:51:15.119
That's show at rum and dnerdy.com.
00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:16.320
Uh reach out to us.
00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:18.480
We'd I mean, we really want to hear from you guys.
00:51:18.639 --> 00:51:19.920
Legitimately.
00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:21.599
Both of you.
00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:22.960
Greg more than me.
00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:23.760
Really doesn't.
00:51:23.840 --> 00:51:24.639
I mean, because the email is a good idea.
00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:26.159
I'm kind of indifferent.
00:51:26.239 --> 00:51:30.400
Yeah, it's he only hears about him like if it's good and then I tell him about it.
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:37.440
I should have like I should I should just reach out to friends on the side and have them prank email.
00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:39.280
That would suck for me.
00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:40.400
I get all excited.
00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:41.599
Somebody wants to talk to me.
00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:42.559
They didn't.
00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:44.480
Just wants to mess with me.
00:51:44.800 --> 00:51:47.679
We've been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty.
00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:49.840
Oh my god, don't get me started.
00:51:50.239 --> 00:51:51.679
Stay nerdy, my friends.
00:51:52.000 --> 00:52:02.719
United States, Canada, Mexico, Panama, Haiti, Jamaica, Peru, Republic Dominican, Cuba, Caribbean, Greenland, El Salvador, too, Rico, Colombia, Venezuela, Honduras, and Silva.
00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:43.039
Hey, you think homeless people ever have sex with each other?
00:52:43.199 --> 00:52:45.199
Probably, but I don't want to think about it.
00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:46.719
I know for a fact they do.
00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:50.239
I spend most of my day breaking up in-progress homeless sex.
00:52:50.639 --> 00:52:53.039
So, we're talking group stuff or just one-on-one?
00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:54.400
Oh, anything goes.
00:52:54.480 --> 00:52:56.400
Whatever you can fit under a tarp.
00:52:56.480 --> 00:52:59.920
There's the major hotspot behind the dumpster at the Cheesecake Factory.
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:02.400
Hey, what's up with the menus at the Cheesecake Factory?
00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:03.599
Why are they gonna be so big?
00:53:03.679 --> 00:53:05.679
And why does their menu have ads?
00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:08.159
I go there for dinner, not to shop for appliances.
00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:09.440
Hey, you know what, guys?
00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:16.480
This right here, this rambling, boring conversation containing already made before observations, this could be a podcast.
00:53:17.039 --> 00:53:18.239
Actually, not a bad idea.
00:53:18.480 --> 00:53:18.719
Really?
00:53:18.880 --> 00:53:19.519
A podcast?
00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:21.920
Don't you have to be some sort of whiz kid to do those?
00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:23.119
Uh, definitely not.
00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:24.719
Anyone with a computer can make one.
00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:25.599
Well, that's it.
00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:29.440
We're anyone, let's do a podcast from right here on the booth.