Patrick Clancy's New Interview Raises Red Flags.

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Okay, we are live. Hello, William. Hello, Tater. Hello, Dark Side. Hello,
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Pink Cloud 9 podcast. I want to talk to you
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today about Patrick Clancy and his 60 Minutes interview, which
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airs the.
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20th.
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At 7 p.m. Eastern, I'll be hosting on my kick
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a watch along. But they have leaked some of these
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little clips from this interview. And I wanted to talk
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about some of the things with Patrick Clancy that raise
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red flags. And I think we can start off with
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my tweet. Start off with my tweet. So someone said
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losing his three toddlers to his psycho evil wife. This
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is Mr. Melancholy on X. And then to watch the
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same criminal psycho wife become the hero to thousands of
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feminists who wrote a billion conspiracy theories blaming him. Leonardo
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was driven insane for less in Shutter Island, truly the
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absolute victim. So that was about Patrick Clancy. And I said,
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hold on. There were a lot of things that Patrick
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Clancy has done since losing his, quote, three toddlers to
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his psycho evil wife. No argument from me there. She's
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evil and a stone cold psycho. Without Patrick Clancy, the
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triple child killer would have never gained her love letter
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press and an army of pink shirted murderer groupies. First,
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Patrick Clancy wrote a bizarre message to the public on
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the GoFundMe created to help Clancy pay, quote, funeral bills
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and medical expenses. I mean, he made $ 300, 000 a year.
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You would think that funeral bills and medical expenses weren't
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going to put him under, of which he profited over
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a million dollars. Profited over a million dollars from that GoFundMe.
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And where he also told the public about his wonderful
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marriage on this GoFundMe and praised his baby killer wife
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and asked the public to forgive her. Then he was
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featured in the New Yorker magazine telling everyone his wife
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was really sick and that she was taking medication now
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at these pretrial hearings that made her unable to cry
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over the grief of her murdered children. He repeated the message.
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that his wife was a great mom who should be forgiven,
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and announced that he was suing all the providers that
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did their best to help his wife, the psycho baby-killing nurse,
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who did not follow. Lindsay Clancy did not follow their
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care instructions or take the medications as prescribed or take
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them at all. Patrick Clancy is even suing McLean, where
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the triple child killer checked herself out after a five-day stay.
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This is the Mendel Hospital. That girl interrupted was based
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on to stay to attend a birthday party. She left
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McLean's five days after five days to attend a birthday party.
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The pink shirted baby killers fans, meaning Lindsay Clancy's pink
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shirted mob, are just answering Patrick Clancy's call. They are
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devotees of the cult he started. And while I feel
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terrible for him that his children were murdered, I find
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his actions to be part of the problem, and it
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makes it very uncomfortable to talk about the subject of
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Patrick Clancy. But here he is on 60 Minutes talking
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about his children, Cora, age 5, Dawson, age 3, and Callan,
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age 8 months, take a Take a listen.
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I talk to them. What do you say?
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Help me.
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All the time. I talk to them. What do you say?
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Help me.
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All the time.
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So this was not the answer that I don't think
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anyone expected. you would think that he would say something like,
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I'm so sorry I couldn't protect you. I'm so sorry
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I failed you. I'm so sorry you were murdered. But
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he wants help for himself. And yet, and I find
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this 60 Minutes interview really interesting, that his new wife
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so he moved to new york he lives in midtown
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manhattan like that's prime real estate in manhattan and he
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got married four years after it happened so what are
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we talking about here if she really believed that she
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was sick wouldn't you think that you would stay married
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to her And want to stick by her if she
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was really such a wonderful person who just did this
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because she was sick. So I don't think even he
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believes the narrative that he's putting out. And what's fascinating
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is when you look at his testimony... he talks about
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dealing with his wife. Take a listen.
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Going back to December. Um, she's told you that she's
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having these thoughts. Um, what's your reaction when she tells
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you that she's having these suicidal thoughts?
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Um, I just wanted to support her. I, I asked
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those questions back to her and, um, her, you know,
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her mother was coming up pretty regularly anyways.
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So We let them know and we just try to
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be supportive.
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Did she also tell you at that time?
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Right. But even if, so taking out the harm of
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the kids, even if you have a mother who's struggling, right?
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Wouldn't you say, wouldn't you say, oh, and then we
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paid special attention to the kids to make sure that
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they were adjusting okay? Because this was, right, such a
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change from Lindsay, the perfect mother, to Lindsay, the overwhelmed.
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I mean, when he's asked, he'll say she's struggling, and
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then he'll be asked how she was struggling, or how
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he knew she was struggling, better put. He'll say things like,
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because she was low energy, or she was quiet. So
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all these things having to do with mental health, the
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only way to know what's going on is someone has
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to tell you. So we have a pathological liar in
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Lindsay Clancy because we know how often she lied. She
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lied to get Patrick out of the house. She lied
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to her health care providers. If it was true, she
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was having thoughts of killing the kids and didn't tell
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her health care providers. Now he's amended his, Patrick Clancy
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has now amended his complaint and said, oh, yeah, she
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did tell her health care provider she was thinking of
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ending the kids. But they would have been mandated to
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report that. But everything's about him. So it's a red
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flag in that when you say, I asked my kids
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to help me, what can your murdered kids, how can
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your murdered kids help you? To give you strength? You
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want strength from your five-year-old murdered daughter? Wouldn't just the
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memory of your daughter give you strength? I don't understand
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how he expects these children to help him. I would
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have thought it would have been, I'm so sorry I
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didn't help you more or help your mom more. But
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this really reeks to me of narcissism. It's everyone else's fault.
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So instead of trying to take some time and figure
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out what happened, it's the health care provider's fault. I
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didn't marry a stone-cold psycho. I married a wonderful woman
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who changed strangely when just it was the medication who
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made her murderous. It was the health care providers who
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didn't help her. It was McLean. where she checked herself
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out early. He's suing McLean, where she checked herself out early.
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No one could find anything wrong with her other than
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her self-reported symptoms. So I think everybody needs to have
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a little bit of skepticism. But I find him a
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dark figure. and again he's again profiting off of his
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children's murder with these civil suits lindsey clancy has a
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civil he's got a civil suit against the meaning the
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hospitals and healthcare providers. Strangely, the one that his mother
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recommended to Lindsay Clancy isn't on the Sue list. Strange.
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I'm at the beginning of December that she was having
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some other intrusive thoughts.
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Is that how she described them or how you described them?
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Intrusive thoughts?
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I would say both. Okay.
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And when she told you that she was having intrusive thoughts,
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did you ask her what they were?
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And what was her response?
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She described thoughts of hurting the kids or them having
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some sort of ailment. So she was very worried that
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Cora had, whenever she had a stomachache, she became overly
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worried that she had a liver problem.
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I don't believe this. I think this is all phony nonsense.
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that she put on as a nurse. Because if she
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were really worried about Cora's stomach ailment, which strangely Patrick
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Clancy attributes to Cora not wanting to go to the
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bathroom in front of people so she holds it and
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she gets constipated that way. He said she didn't want
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to go to the bathroom at school. Well, she's suffering
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these symptoms on not a school day. So what's the issue?
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And why does Lindsay Clancy say, not get her the
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medication when she's driving her home? Why does she wait
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to give this chore to Patrick? It's almost like she
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was premeditating murdering the kids.
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Or something much more dramatic than it was.
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Okay.
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But going back to that first part, she said she
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had thoughts of harming the kids.
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Is that correct? Yeah.
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And did she tell you whether or not she had
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specific thoughts of how she would harm the kids?
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No.
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And she didn't describe that as hearing this external voice
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telling her to harm the kids, correct?
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Correct.
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She told you she was having intrusive thoughts herself of
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harming the children, correct?
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Correct.
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She says the voice is herself. There's Lindsay Clancy saying
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the voice is me. Right there. I'm having thoughts of
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harming my kids. But what did Lindsay... If Lindsay Clancy
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is such a great mother, if she knows that about herself...
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And we heard about all these mothers on Oprah who said,
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I made sure I was never alone with my children
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after that. Who cared about Cora, Dawson, and Callan? Who
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cared about them? Just seems like everybody let them down.
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And I don't understand... Where is his guilt? And why
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did he withhold the 911 call from the public saying
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it was much too... He said the 911 call would
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be much too traumatic to have played to the public,
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only to the jurors, and to seal it. But he's
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going on 60 Minutes? Doing more interviews?
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And did you ask her... how she was going to
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harm the kids?
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I didn't ask it in that way. It was the
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same thing. I said, do you have a plan? And
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is it disturbing to you? And she said no. And
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then she said yes.
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Let me go back for a minute there.
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If it's disturbing to you, you don't do it. You're
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so disturbed, you get help when you have these thoughts.
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And don't tell me that she was looking for help.
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Because What Lindsay Clancy was doing was zigzagging from provider
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to provider, making a record, being a nurse. This is
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her arena. Other doctors, nurses, medications, that's her arena. She's
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like a fish in water in that environment. But she
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was making a record, so it made it look like
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she was desperately looking for help. That's what she was doing.
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You said, do you have a plan? And she said, no.
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What was the second question? Second part of the question?
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Do you find it disturbing? And she said, yes. And
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she described it as.
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That's like when she told the nurses she was horrified
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by what she's done. If you're horrified by what you've done,
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you throw yourself on the mercy of the court. Say,
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I'm guilty. Please put me away. I'm not safe to
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be around children. You don't sue the health care providers
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and say, I didn't get any help because I didn't
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follow anyone's directions. When I did get help, I didn't
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do what they said, but nobody helped me. Oh, here's
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some help. Oh, I'm not going to listen to you. See,
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they didn't help me. It's so incredibly entitled and narcissistic.
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Really, the way she was describing it as something that
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might happen to the kids.
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So it's more something might happen than she might do something.
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Is that correct?
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Yeah.
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She's warning him. She's telling him something might happen to
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the kids. You better act. You better watch your P's
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and Q's. Something might happen to the kids. Little Whiskers says,
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absolutely right.
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Thanks.
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It's hard to talk about. You know, not all victims'
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family members are great people. It hits a cross section
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of people and some of them have some really serious
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flaws like Patrick Clancy, who I believe is really the
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architect of his wife's innocence fraud campaign. He's the one
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who started this. She was sick. She's taking medication. She
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can't cry. All the providers failed her. She had some
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kind of vague viral psychosis, 18 minute psychosis.
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Did she tell you how long she had those thoughts for?
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She didn't give a duration.
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And how many times did she tell you this, that
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she had thoughts of harming the kids?
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A couple times.
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And was that a couple times over the course of
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a night or two in December?
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And as a result of her telling you this, that
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she had.
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This is a month before she actually did it. No guilt.
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I would have so much guilt. No guilt. Yeah. She
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told me these things. We just told the mom.
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Cold. The coldness of it.
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Thoughts of harming the kids. What did you do?
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Her parents came up and I think I asked her
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at some point, you know, do you feel like you
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need to be kept away from them?
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And she said, no.
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minute later she was making them lunch or playing with
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them or, you know, getting ready for bed or whatever
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it was.
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So it was confusing in that she wasn't.
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He gave permission for everyone to say this woman is sick.
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He urged us all to see it this way before
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as the preliminary trial hearings were coming out. And we
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know from his Reddit post that he was watching them.
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And he was writing posts like, can you sue the prosecutor?
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They say something untrue in court. He was looking to
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sue the prosecutor or something like that. I mean, he's
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looking at this in all angles on how to cash
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in on the kids that. I don't think he cared much.
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I don't think he can attach to people. Something very
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dark about him. Very narcissistic.
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Physically.
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I mean, we'll go, we'll read his GoFundMe message.
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I mean, at the time, but was having had had
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these thoughts. Is that what you're saying? Right.
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I never saw Lindsay on the kids. Right.
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But his father did see Lindsay Clancy grab Dawson's arm,
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but his father testified. And I think his father is
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the one. who knows a lot and is sitting on
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a lot of information. And if I were the prosecutors,
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I would go re-interview him because I think he wants
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to talk. I would let him talk. Little Whiskers says
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he should have just stayed behind the scenes and went
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to see her prosecuted. I agree. How are we more
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disgusted than Patrick Clancy that his ex-wife, killed Cora Dawson
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and Callan? Why are we more upset? Why are strangers
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disgusted by her actions and not Patrick Clancy? Patrick Clancy
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just wants us to understand she's a wonderful person, a
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great mom, okie doke, great marriage. She told investigators that
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they told each other that they loved each other 10
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times a day. That's a red flag. Just like Lindsay
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Clancy's And if I were the prosecutors, I would run
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with this theme. Just like Lindsay Clancy had to tell
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herself multiple times a day via her affirmations that she
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loved her family, she loved her husband, and she loved
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her kids. Meaning she's using those statements to replace negative
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statements that are bothering her. I hate my kids. I
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hate my family. I hate my husband. She hated those kids.
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And she left them on her husband's office floor as
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a big middle finger to him. And she didn't want
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to prepare him. No, because when Patrick Clancy went up
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to her and said, what have you done? She said,
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it's always all about Lindsay Clancy. And it's the same
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with Patrick Clancy. It's always all about themselves. Never their children.
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I don't care how many toys they had. Like I said,
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my girlfriend says that's a big red flag. Like, how
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do we occupy these kids so they don't bother us?
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Lots of toys. These kids were neglected.
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And did you also, as a result of these statements,
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suggest an appointment with nurse practitioner Gelada?
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It wasn't as a result of these statements. That appointment
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was set up because we were at her parents' house
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in Wallingford for Thanksgiving, and she just described.
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And.
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Thank you, little whiskers. I don't know if I thank you.
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I was so disgusted with Patrick Clancy at the time
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I read your message. Yeah, I agree with you, though. Oh, la.
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How she was feeling on the medication and she felt
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that she was, um, she felt that she.
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Was addicted to them.
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Was that the benzodiazepines that she thought she was addicted to?
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Uh, primarily. And then she was taking Seroquel at the
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same time.
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She was taking Seroquel at the same time. So this
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is his civil suit narrative here. We're hearing here. She got, she's,
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she's going to be the first person in history to
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get an addiction without taking pills regularly. So she has
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an addiction to benzos, but not taking them.
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And she might have been taking trazodone or remeron, I'm
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not sure.
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Okay.
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Do you recall testifying?
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Trazodone is a very common, I believe it's an early antidepressant,
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some kind of antidepressant that makes you tired. So they
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prescribe it for sleep because it's a very safe medication.
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Seroquil is stronger. similar kind of medication that they prescribed
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for sleep.
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Previously um that i called her parents to come up
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to stay with us and i told her that we
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needed i asked her who her doctor was because i
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was very concerned at this point she was prescribed 10
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different medications in just over two months so it didn't
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make sense to me and then you said so after
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her parents came up um she has she said i
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have a remote meeting with rebecca gelada and you said
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no it has to be in person Yeah.
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I felt like it had to be in person because
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I just felt like there was a disconnect. I felt
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like we could figure it out, whatever was going on.
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So most of her, it seemed like most of her
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telehealth appointments were pretty quick and there just wasn't like
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a lot of attention.
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Were you present for these telehealth?
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There wasn't a lot of attention. How much time do
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you want Lindsay Clancy to be given on a telehealth
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appointment most doctors appointments don't last more than 20 minutes
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now do you think that's fair guys do you think
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that's fair that's how they go for me 20 minutes
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that's a long one too adult yes i agree okay
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i'll wait for you guys to catch up and let
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me know if that's fair but lindsey wasn't didn't get
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enough She only had nannies, her mother, Patrick, providers, inpatient
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stays that she checked herself out of early. But nobody
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gave Lindsay and Patrick Clancy enough. And now he wants
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to get more support from his murdered children.
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Visits. Only a few of them, and they were after
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that meeting with Gelada.
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Okay. And that appointment in person with Gelada was December 6, 2022.
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Is that correct?
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That sounds correct.
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So the thought of harming the kids was after Thanksgiving
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but before December 6.
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Is that correct? That sounds correct.
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Were you concerned for the kids' safety at that time?
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No, I wasn't.
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And why not?
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Because she wasn't showing any intention of harming the kids.
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Right. But he doesn't have any guilt. There isn't any.
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It's like defiant the way he answers that. Did everybody
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see that? Let's just watch that one more quickie time.
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Were you concerned for the kids' safety at that time?
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No, I wasn't.
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And why not?
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Because she wasn't showing any intention of harming the kids.
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She told you she didn't have a plan.
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Is that correct? Correct.
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And there's this hostility towards the prosecution that's trying to
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get justice for his murdered children. Can I sue them
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when they say something that I think is inaccurate? I
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find him really, really dark. Here's his full GoFundMe statement.
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I've been through this before, but I think I need
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to revisit it. Because it's so odd. So this is
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his first statement to the world. These are to strangers
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who are giving him money so that he can pay
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for funeral expenses and medical bills. It seemed like his
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health insurance was really good and covered almost everything. That
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was covered in his direct examination, but okay. Thank you
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for all your love and support, Patrick Clancy writes in
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this GoFundMe. That was set up for him. but he
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wrote a personal message. The warmth I've received from the
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community is palpable and your generosity gives me hope that
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I can focus on some sort of healing. I've seen
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all of your messages and contributions, including some from people
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I haven't seen in over a decade and many I've
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never met. I see and appreciate every one of you.
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A lot of people have said they can't imagine and
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they're right. There's absolutely nothing that can prepare you. Really?
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You know what might prepare you when your wife says,
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I'm thinking of hurting the kids. The shock and pain
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is excruciating and relentless. I'm constantly reminded of them. And
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with the little sleep I get, I dream about them
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on repeat. Any parent knows it's impossible to understand how
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much you will love your kids until you have them.
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The same goes for understanding the devastation of losing them. Cora, Dawson,
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and Callan were the essence of my life, and I'm
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completely lost without them. A lot of cliches in this.
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I'm lost without them. You'll never understand how loving your kids,
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how much you love your kids until you have them.
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My family was the best thing that ever happened to me.
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Another cliche. I took so much pride in being Lindsay's husband.
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Let me just give them one hot minute. Can you
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guys hold on? I just want to throw this matchbook
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under my desk because it's, hold on. I'll be back.
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One hot minute. Thank you for your patience. Okay, here
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we go. Back again. I'm sure. Okay, here we go.
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My family. Okay. My family was the best thing that
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ever happened to me. I took so much pride in
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being Lindsay's husband. That comes before being a dad to
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Cora Dawson and Callan. So his primary relationship was with
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Lindsay and then to his children, Cora Dawson and Callan.
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I always reminded myself that each day with them was
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a gift, a new gift, a new gift. I always
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reminded myself that each day was a new gift. I mean,
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wouldn't you just observe that? Like, oh, this is amazing.
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This is such a gift every day. Callan usually woke
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up first and would rest his head on my shoulder
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for a few minutes. This is the eight-month-old baby that
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Lindsay Clancy murdered. Callan usually woke up first and would
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rest his head on my shoulder for a few minutes
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as he adjusted to morning. Dawson typically sang or spoke
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his thoughts out loud for a while before we'd go
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get him. Yeah, we just let him sit and suffer
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as he sang at the top of his lungs. Remember,
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Dawson was the three-year-old, the middle child that Lindsay Clancy
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wrote on an Internet forum that she thought he was
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the most challenging human being that she'd ever encountered in
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her life, her own young son. Difficult person she'd ever encountered.
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So they liked to just, before he would be talking
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and they wouldn't get him out of his bed. They
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just let him like scream into the ether. Cora was
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a big girl and would simply walk downstairs. We couldn't
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lock her up like we locked Dawson up. I can
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still vividly picture her coming into the living room each
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morning with her hair in a mess, smile on her face.
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We always started our days together, reading books, cuddling up
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on the couch, and playing with magnet tiles. I love
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taking them places, whether it was scouting at Chandler Elementary,
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vacation skiing out on the boat, or to Duxbury Beach,
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one of our favorite places on earth. So it was
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probably Duxbury Beach was.
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One of his favorite places, and he introduces kids to it.
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They gave me purpose, and I never took it for granted.
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There is now a massive void where that purpose once was.
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So his kids gave him purpose. He doesn't miss the kids,
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but the purpose that they gave him. Cora had an
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infectious laugh and was stunningly beautiful. She was the cautious one,
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and probably she was the cautious one because she was
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the oldest, and I believe her stomach issues were because
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she realized her mother was dangerous. What is that skiing
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trip that he took with Cora alone? To me, that
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screams of, hey, Patrick Clancy, hey, hubby, You're going to
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need to spend some time with Cora because she's really struggling.
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She really needs that extra daddy attention. Oh, I'll take
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her on the skiing trip. Or was Dawson supposed to
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go too and he was punished? That happened to me
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when my whole family went and saw Grease. I had
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to stay home. I never saw Grease. Still haven't to
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this day. If she was leaving the house to go somewhere,
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she would pick someone to take care of Caroline and Charlotte,
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her baby dolls. So she has this kind of obsession
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with mothering. Is Cora becoming the fantasy mother she wished
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she had instead of this psycho murderous mother? She had
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all the doll accessories available, so her sitters were well-equipped.
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Dawson had, you know, it just, I'm going to come
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back to this because it's very long and very disturbing,
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but that's kind of like it's odd that his children
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gave him purpose and he misses that purpose. What do
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you say? I miss my children. Odd, odd, odd. But
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his wife is also also sits down and they're really
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teasing that out like how that's gonna you know how
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that's gonna turn out here's the way cbs is s
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is promoting it take a listen.
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Killed their three small children and then a jury failed
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to reach a verdict in her murder trial. That trial
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of course launching a debate over mothers and mental health
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and a litany of conspiracy theories that Patrick Clancy himself
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was somehow involved claims his lawyer has said must end.
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Now we will hear directly from Patrick.
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Well maybe his lawyer should give him the advice to
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not start making excuses for his baby killing wife. Because
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when you start making excuses for your baby killing wife,
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and this is what all the jurors said, and this
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is what I said before the jury came out, said
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this would end in a hung jury. Because we still
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don't know anything about Lindsay Clancy except great mom. And
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then the jury's going to think, well, how did this
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great mom kill her kids? Something must have happened. She
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must have been in psychosis. So he's really the author
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of all these conspiracy theories that he hates. Another way
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to go is to say, well, if Lindsay Clancy is
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such a great mom, then she couldn't have done it.
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It had to be Patrick Clancy. But he had his
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fingerprints taken, his hands photographed. He was treated like a suspect.
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On the evening of January 24th, 2023, we're talking about
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the day Lindsay Clancy murdered Cora Dawson and Callum.
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Clancy himself talking about his children, his ex-wife, and her trial.
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CBS's Chanel Call has seen the interview and leads us
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off tonight with a preview.
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Chanel, good evening.
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Hey, good evening, Tony. So in this exclusive interview with
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60 Minutes, we see a different side of Patrick Clancy.
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For much of his testimony, he appeared stoic. But now
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we're hearing an emotional and raw account of what this
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has been like for him.
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We're ready.
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In his first interview since the Lindsay Clancy mistrial, the
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father and ex-husband at the center of this high-profile case
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speaks about the darkest night of his life. At times,
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during interviews conducted over two days, Patrick Clancy broke down
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in tears as he recounted the three days his youngest child, Callan,
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spent in ICU before he died. It comes seven weeks
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after a visibly composed Patrick took the stand, describing the
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moment he returned home the night of the crime.
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I just saw blood everywhere. It looked like it was
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sprayed almost with like a hose.
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He said he found his wife, Lindsay, in the backyard
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that night after she jumped from their bedroom window.
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She said, I tried to kill myself. In the 60.
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Minutes interview, Patrick Clancy spoke at length about what happened
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in the moments after, how he's dealt with the grief
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of losing his three children, and about Lindsay's mental health.
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She said she heard a man's voice telling her that
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if she didn't do it now, she would lose her chance.
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Since the tragedy, Patrick Clancy stood by his ex-wife, describing
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her as a doting mother.
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She made up songs for them. I remember she used
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to make green eggs and ham for Cora.
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Now, during the week's song trial, Patrick Clancy also became
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the subject of intense and unsubstantiated.
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Right, unsubstantiated. But when the media does this to other
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people in other cases... It's reported very differently.
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Online conspiracy theories.
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Some accusing... They're not called online conspiracy theories.
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Him of being involved in the killings. In this exclusive interview,
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60 Minutes asked him about those theories. He called them
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deeply harmful to the legacy of his children and a
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distraction to perinatal mental health. Tony.
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Chanel, in the days after his children.
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A distraction to peri... what did you just call it?
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And a distraction to perinatal mental health, Tony.
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Perinatal mental health. So if you call Lindsay Clancy, if
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you call Lindsay Clancy, these distractions are distracting away from
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not Lindsay Clancy being held responsible, but What does he
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think is going to happen with perinatal mental health from
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this case? And I'll tell you nothing. Nothing's going to
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happen with it. There will be no advancements whatsoever.
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Chanel, in the days after his children were killed, Patrick
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actually asked the public to forgive Lindsay.
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Did he explain why?
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So he actually told 60 Minutes that he saw headlines
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like Lindsay was being called a killer mom, a babysitter. murderer,
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a monster.
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That's what she is. That's what you that's that's those
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are all descriptive. She's a killer. She's a baby killer.
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She's a baby killing nurse. She's a triple child killer.
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I'm sorry you have some shame for marrying a triple
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child killer or marrying a woman that murdered your children.
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But that's not going to change with language. That's a fact.
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And he said none of them were accurate. And he
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believes all of this had everything to do with her
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mental health.
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How is he dealing with his own grief?
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I mean, it's been extremely difficult. None of us can
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imagine what it's like to be in that situation. But
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he talked to 60 Minutes about keeping some of the
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children's things, including their artwork. He even said at one
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point he drove by the children's school and then he
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ultimately turned some of their T-shirts into pillows.
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But he doesn't want justice. Just let out the killer.
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Let out the killer. Just give her like six months
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of what she's already done. mental health treatment and just
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let her have more kids or let her walk this,
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you know, walk, roll the streets out amongst us. How
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many of these Lindsay Clancy supporters want her to babysit
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their kids? That's what I want to know. And if
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she really, if they really believe this psychosis story, when
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did it start and how was she cured? So I'm
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going to keep it real short for today. I'll be
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back tomorrow at 6 p.m. to talk more about this.
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Have a great night, everybody. I'll see you tomorrow. Thanks
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so much for, let me just turn this off. Thanks.
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True Crime says eight months later is not very right.
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perinatal health it comes much closer postpartum postpartum psychosis and
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depression doesn't happen eight months later but usually but there's
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nothing everything everything unusual seems to happen to lindsey clancy
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hearing a voice never heard before never heard since most
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people would ignore it or second guess themselves not lindsey
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clancy she has to follow it right away All right.
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Thanks so much for watching with me. I'll see you
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guys really soon. Please hit the thumbs up on your
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way out. All right. See you guys.
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Mic check, Roberta strides through the static haze. True crime, Gotham,
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where the shadows play their plays. Frauds just fold when
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a spotlight beams. Fact-focused queen busting propaganda schemes.
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Glass shatter, lies echoes through the streets. Standing for victims,
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giving voice their beats. NYC polls, truth sharp as night.
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Roberta exposing, she's the anti-fraud light.
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Thank you.
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Hard task warrior dissecting state and defense twisted innocence claims
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breaking pretense gotham's truth seeker cuts clean with the blade
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facts in the forefront no justice gets swayed cold facts
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drip heavy real talk unfurls.
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Cracking cases open like.
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Oysters with pearls innocence gimmicks crumble to dust in the
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wind for victims of.
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Creed justice till the end Headphones blazing. She drops heavy artillery.
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Narratives twisted.
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Neat, blunt objects of civility. Roberta got receipts that unravel
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the ploy. Exposing the lies these fraudsters deploy.
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Glass shatters lies, echoes through the streets. Standing for victims,
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giving voice their beats. NYC polls, truth sharp as night.
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Roberta exposing, she's the anti-fraud light.
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Thank you.