Resource Report - 30 Franklin Street Harm Reduction

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Hello and welcome to Resource Report, where we
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share with you important information about local
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nonprofits and resource organizations that support
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the community we share, produced by Pathways
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to Agency. I am your host, Rainmaker. Today's
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featured organization is Franklin Street Harm
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Reduction. This interview took place in two parts.
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First, we will hear from co -director Christina
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McVeigh, and later we will also hear from harm
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reduction support specialists James Condon and
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Goblin. For now, here's Christina. I am here
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at Franklin Street Harm Reduction with Christina
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McVeigh. And can you please reintroduce yourself,
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your position, and how did you come to be here
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at Franklin Street Harm Reduction? Absolutely.
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So I am Christina McVeigh. I use she, her pronouns.
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And I am one of the founders and the program
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director of Franklin Street Harm Reduction. And
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my partner, Sean Wright, and I founded this.
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We've now been open for about six months. And
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we have both just been in this field for a very
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long time, and us and everybody who works here,
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we just really see a lot of gaps in the community.
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And so our whole goal was to try to fill those
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gaps a little bit. Yeah, that's very much needed.
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There are gaps all over the place and so many
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people working to close them. Thank you. Has
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it only been six months? Only six months. We
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opened August 11th. We just had our six month
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anniversary. I can't even believe it. Okay. So
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you kind of a little bit mentioned why y 'all
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started, but how did it start? Well, I mean,
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we have been doing outreach for other agencies
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for several years. And then in our free time,
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we were getting safe smoking supplies and donating
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those and just volunteering at mitigation and
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some other places. And really, we really wanted
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something that was very focused harm reduction.
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So this is very similar to what we've done in
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other programs, but the difference is that it's
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100 % focused on harm reduction. We don't bill
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to Medicaid. Everybody is here voluntarily, and
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it's really just kind of becoming a place where
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so many different providers and services could
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be under one roof. So we really wanted to create
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something that was really welcoming. It's really
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important to me that somebody could just come
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in and get coffee and use the bathroom and not
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even engage in any groups and just feel safe
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and start their morning out positive. And so
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that was really initially where it started. We
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thought we would rent a tiny office and do some
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outreach and maybe be open a couple mornings
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a week. And then this building became available,
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so we just went for it. It seemed like there
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were so many amazing services around us that
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it really felt meant to be with OlyMap and CCS
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and Hope and Healing, Peer Olympia, Capital Recovery
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Center. It just really felt like, oh, this is
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where the people are, and this is where we could
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do something that, you know, partners with all
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of these folks. That's wonderful. You know, like,
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I've had a homeless experience, you know, sleeping
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in parks under places with my kids and my ex.
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And, you know, being able to have somewhere to
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just go to in the morning where, you know, it's
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okay to just have your morning and just kind
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of get yourself sorted out for the day and have
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your free coffee and charge your phone, you know,
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and just collect yourself, use the bathroom,
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wash your head and the sink, you know, that's- You
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know, people take these things for granted. You
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know, when you have them, you don't think about
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not having them. And when you don't have them,
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they're like such a blessing. Thank you for that.
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And then, so what, aside from that, what do y
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'all exactly do? Like, that's very simple, but
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what are y 'all... We do a lot. We provide peer
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support groups and we provide one -on -one peer
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support and peer support in groups. And I'll
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let James and Goblin go a little more into the
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specifics of the groups. But we provide SMART
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Recovery groups, Wildflower Alliance groups,
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and then a lot of creative groups as well. And
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then we also invite any provider who has a harm
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reduction focus to come in and also do outreach
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in here. So we have things like Oly Camp Kitties
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and now Red Rose Animal Rescue, and they can
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connect to Free Spay and Neuter for dogs and
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cats. We have, like, Department of Health comes
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in and does rapid STD testing for Syphilis, Hep
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C, and HIV. We have wound care folks come over
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from Providence and the Mission, and they provide
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services on site. We have Community Youth Services
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come over and connect to people who are 24 and
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under to talk about shelter and housing. Gosh,
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there's just so many different folks that have
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been coming through. We just started with WorkSource
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coming in. So that's brand new. And they're helping
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people with resumes. They just started last week.
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And then the other thing we just started was
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Medicaid signups. So we have somebody coming
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in and helping people with Medicaid signups and
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connect to providers. So we have about six staff
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at Franklin Street. But then throughout the week,
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we have nine groups a week, and we have a provider
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in almost every morning or afternoon now coming
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in. Wow. And then OlyMap comes over and does
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Coordinated Entry. Yes. So it's kind of similar
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to the Resource Hub, the Thurston County
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Resource Hub, where you have different practitioners
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coming in, different organizations having some
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days there, as well. So y 'all are like a different
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hub over here. Oh, that's pretty wrapped up. Yeah,
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signups... It's been really awesome. It's been
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really great. And so, you know, Hope and Healing
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is next door providing medically assisted treatment.
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So they can come in. We partner together all
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the time. It's just really great. We can take
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people over to OlyMap. You know, today we worked
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with somebody who was getting support with CCS
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and Hope and Healing. So we're just all working
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together. It's really nice. It's really nice.
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For those that are putting resumes together over
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here, we've got... I actually have an office in
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the YWCA building right down the street, and,
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you know, we have Kathleen's Closet over there.
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You could just go- Yes. -On certain days of the
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week, I think it's Tuesdays and Thursdays she's
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open, and get your work clothes for your interview.
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That is so cool. Mhm, it's free. That is
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really cool. We've been over there. That is a
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really cool resource. Yeah. Yeah. Can you explain
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a little bit more about the support groups? Yeah,
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we partner. So we are an international partner
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with SMART Recovery, and SMART Recovery is a
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harm reduction focused, non -faith based support
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modality. And one of the really cool things about
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SMART Recovery, it is designed so that somebody
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who's dealing with a gambling addiction, could
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be with somebody who's dealing with a sex addiction,
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could be with someone who's dealing with an opiate
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addiction, it doesn't matter. All those folks
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could be together. You don't have to be abstinent
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to come to a group. You just have to be safe
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in the group. And then it's really about talking
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about coping skills and recovery and support
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networks and people coming together and learning
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new ways to support each other. And so that's
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what SMART Recovery is about, which is very cool.
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And Wildflower Alliance really goes along with
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that. They're very harm reduction focused. And
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under Wildflower Alliance, we have a program
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called Alternatives to Suicide. That's one of
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our groups. Another group is Hearing Voices Network.
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And really, we want us to be a really safe place
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to talk about suicide ideation, to talk about
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hearing voices without all that stigma that comes
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at it, that you don't necessarily just need a
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safety plan. first thing that you're talking about
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something. You need a safe place to even be safe
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to talk about it before a safety plan is even
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going to do you any good. You've got to process
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what's going on. You've got to get feedback.
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Yes. And build trust. Yeah. Yeah. It's a process.
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Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. So, and that's
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not to say that some people don't have safety
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plans, but as soon as somebody says, I have this
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feeling, the first thing we don't do is we don't
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just stick a safety plan in front of them and
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say, sign this before we keep talking. You know,
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it's like, no, let's talk. Let's, you know, what
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do you need? You know, that kind of thing. So
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those were those. And then we also really... Friday
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afternoon, they just got finished with Art and
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Games. So we always have an Art and Games or
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Art or Games group on Friday afternoon just to
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end the week on a positive social time. You know,
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go into the weekend when there's less resources
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available in a more positive way. And we do a
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Writing group and Skillshare. Goblin does a Writing
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group and James does a Skillshare. I'll let them
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talk more about those. But yeah, their groups
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are great. They're so good. Cool. You mentioned
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briefly in the beginning about being able to
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come in in the mornings and get your coffee and
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the bathroom and whatever, but that would be
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the Drop -In. There's more to it than that. Can
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you detail the Drop -In? Yeah, Drop -In is open
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Monday through Friday from 8a to 11a, and basically
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we are open for coffee, we have snacks for the
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first couple hours, and I mean like light outreach
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snacks, like chips or yogurts or something. And
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then we have hot water for cocoa and cider. And
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then you can use the bathroom, you can use the
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computer for 20 -minute spots on the computer,
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and then there's always a group every morning
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as well. And so if somebody just wants to come
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in, charge their phone, get coffee, and not be
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talked to, that's totally fine. They just need
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to give their first name or whatever name they're
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choosing to give us to check in, and that's it.
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We don't need to do an intake, we don't bill
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to Medicaid for that, and then if you want to
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come to a group, you can, but if you don't, that's
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totally fine. So it's very chill. I feel like
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people aren't going to hang out here if they
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don't get to know us and trust us. And that's
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also what's made this community so special is
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there's a lot of respect going both ways. That's
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awesome. Thank you. I love that so much. And
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then there's...but there's also Individual Support.
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There's Individual Support. So we have five peer
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support... we call them Harm Reduction Support
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Specialists, and they are here and available
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to just meet with you one -on -one just to listen.
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And, you know, you lead the path and we just
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kind of walk alongside and support. So some light
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case management, but a lot of what we're doing
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is connecting, so if somebody wants to get into
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housing, we're connecting them to housing resources,
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we're connecting to treatment resources. We don't
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have a shelter, we don't have a kitchen, so we
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don't do meals. We just have little donations
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of snacks and coffee, um.. so we're quite small. So
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it's really about talking and support and connection
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to other resources. Yeah, and so that's really
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helpful. Sometimes people just... have... are overwhelmed
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by their situation and you know like when you're
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in survival mode all the time there's the parts
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of your brain that help you to plan and make
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decisions seizes up- Right. - Just shuts down and
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you're overwhelmed and you just don't know where
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to begin. You might have like a laundry list of
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things on your plate to deal with, and you're
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also... where am I sleeping tonight? Right. You
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know, sometimes. Sometimes it's not that. Sometimes
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you have a space, but it's uncertain. Yeah. And
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how do I navigate that uncertainty? And you just
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need somebody to hear you. Yeah. Just talk out
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the situation. Absolutely. And kind of like work
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together with someone to problem solve, you know,
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and you don't know what you don't know, and so
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finding out information, you know, and having
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someone there who is connected to the information,
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that's so perfectly valuable. It's pretty special
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here. We also have the Thurston County Syringe
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Exchange here. And they're here Tuesday and Thursday,
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and they operate out of the back of the building.
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And they do Syringe Support Services, Treatment
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Connection... They do a lot of wound care supplies.
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There's a Hep C testing and case management program
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also out of the back of the building at the same
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time. And also on the back of the building, we
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have a Naloxone machine, and it's free Naloxone.
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You don't need to do demographics or pay anything.
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You just push the button. And we have intramuscular
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Naloxone. We have nasal Naloxone. We have Fentanyl
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test kits, and then we also have cold bottles
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of water, and emergency blankets, and safe sex
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supplies all in the machine for free. And we
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stock that every single night. And it's been
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really successful. You know, if there's any vandalism,
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it usually says thank you. There's a lot of graffiti
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that says thank you. And people have been really
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respectful of the machine. It's gone really,
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really well. And that's just on the backside
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of the building. It's open to the public 24 -7.
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And you said Naloxone. Is that the same thing
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as Narcan? Yes, it is. Yes, yes. It's just the
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generic name for the Narcan. Oh, okay. Yeah.
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And for people who don't know, can you explain
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what that is? Yes. So Naloxone is what you use
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to reverse an opioid overdose, and it blocks
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the opioid receptors in your brain. whatever
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opiates you're on, it's going to stop the effect
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of that. So it's not going to stop the effect
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of other substances specifically. It specifically
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targets opiates, but enough so that it can reverse
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an overdose and then we can perform CPR and then
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we still want to connect you to hospital care
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or whatever you're willing to do. But it works
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and it works very well. Awesome. Yeah. And it
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is free and anybody is welcome to come and take
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it out of the machine. You just push the button
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and down it drops. Absolutely. Absolutely. Thank
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you. Y 'all do referrals. We do a lot of referrals.
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We work with Hope and Healing, We work with Coordinated
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Entry and Family Support Center and OlyMap. And
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then just really, we're just always brainstorming
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to see what you need. If I don't know a referral
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offhand, you know, I might call Thurston County
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Hub or Crisis Clinic or Peer Olympia and say,
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hey, somebody's asking for this thing, and I'm
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out of ideas. What do you have? So a lot of networking
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with all the other providers. Awesome. Yeah.
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The groups are, so every morning we have a group
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at 9, and every afternoon, weekday, except for
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Wednesday, we have a group at 12:30. So, and today
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was Friday, and Art and Games was on Friday.
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So yeah, every morning at 9, there'll be some
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group. And it rotates? It's this Game all quarter.
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You have Writing, Creative Expressions, SMART
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Recovery, Connection to Life, Art and Games,
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and Skill Share. Yes. And we have three SMART
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Recovery groups a week as well. So every weekday
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morning, there's a group at 9. And every Monday,
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Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday, there's a group
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at 1230 to 2. So when are the groups again? So
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the groups are, we have a SMART recovery group
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is Monday morning at nine, Tuesday afternoon
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at 12:30 and Friday morning at 9. And then
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we have a Writing Group on Tuesday morning at
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9. We have creative expressions on Wednesday
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morning at 9a and then Skill Share on Thursday
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morning at 9a. And then in the afternoons we
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have.. On Monday afternoon at 12:30, we have Alternatives
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to Suicide. And then on Tuesday afternoon, SMART
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Recovery at 12:30. And then on Thursday afternoon,
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we have Hearing Voices Network at 12:30. And then
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on Friday at 12:30, we have Art and Games. Awesome.
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Yeah. Cool. Okay, and so how does a person get
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services or join a group? They just walk in.
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Walk in and give their first name, and that's
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it. That's all they have to do. We don't report
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anything to anybody. We don't do anything more
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than take your first name, and we count how many
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people attend a group. That's it. That's it.
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No intake, no nothing. We have plenty of paperwork.
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If somebody is doing case management and wants
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us to, we have plenty of release forms to communicate
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with other agencies if somebody wants us to,
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demographics forms, all the contacts. If somebody
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wants to do all that, they absolutely can, but
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they don't have to do a group. That's good to
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know that they have that option. Like, you know,
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if somebody, for example, and this might be like
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a specific example, but it gives an idea of what
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people might be working with. You know, if you
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are already going through Coordinated Entry.
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at maybe the Family Support Center, you know,
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but you're coming over here and you're going
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through other services for recovery and like
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maybe you're also applying for disability. There's
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going to be release forms because SSI is going
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to want to do different evaluations for your
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disability. And so there would be release forms.
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Yes. We don't confirm anything without your consent
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at all. So if somebody walks in and they say,
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you know, have you seen this person? I say, oh,
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gosh, I can't confirm or deny. You can leave
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a message for that person, and if I see that
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person, I could pass the message. but I don't
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confirm anything without written consent. That's
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good to know. That's good to know. People have
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concerns about that kind of thing. I would say
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the exception is, is so if they're coming in here
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and meeting a Department of Health provider to
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do STD testing, that's going to be different.
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They're going to give that provider whatever
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that provider does, but that provider does not
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then give that information to Franklin Street.
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Franklin Street is just the host for those providers
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to come in. Right. And it's connected to their
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main office. Exactly. Right. Exactly. Okay, cool.
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How can people get involved? Do you have jobs,
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volunteering, donating? We... let's see, we are
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putting together a volunteer orientation, so
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anybody who wants to volunteer could reach out
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about that. And then once we have that volunteer
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orientation scheduled, we will start inviting
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people. We'd like to do that about every two
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months on the regular rotation because a lot
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of people have asked. Otherwise, we do take donations
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of books or coffee or snacks. We always need
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belts and bras and binders desperately, um, again
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we try to fill those gaps, so we don't really
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have a clothing closet, we don't have coats, but
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we do have socks, and underwear, and belts, and
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we're always looking for bras and binders, they're
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so expensive, so things like that that are sort
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of that unique item that are really hard to get
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are so useful to us, so yeah, and books... we love
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books. And how do people donate those items? They
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just drop them off anytime that we're open, yeah
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that would be.. yeah. Remind us your hours. Sure.
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Our hours are 8 to 11, Monday through Friday,
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and then Tuesday, let's see, 11, no, Monday through
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Friday, 8 to 11, and then 12 to 3, Monday, Tuesday,
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Thursday, and Friday. Okay. Yeah. On Wednesday
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afternoon, we do outreach to the Jungle, and
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we're closed on afternoons Wednesday for staff
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meetings. Okay. Yeah. Cool. Y 'all go out, do
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outreach in the Jungle? We do. We do outreach
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in the Jungle, and we usually partner with Hope
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and Healing. And we go out there together and
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just connect with participants out there and
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bring harm reduction supplies and, yeah, just
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connect. Yeah, and I see the Hope and Healing
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van in your parking lot all the time. Yeah, that
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is, so Hope and Healing next door. That is owned
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by Chehalis Tribe. And so Hope and Healing, it's
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a totally different service. We just love all
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the same purple colors. And they've just been
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wonderful partners. So they're just right next
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door. And their hours are 9 to 3, Monday through
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Friday. Awesome. Yeah. And they just do walk
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-ups as well. Okay. So anybody can just walk
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up and get support from them. They're on the
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list to get an interview, too. Yeah, great. They
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are amazing. They are amazing. And how do people
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donate? They could just bring anything in or
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donate if they have stuff to donate. Or on our
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website, there is a donate button. So they could
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go to the website and donate through there or
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just drop off whatever. Okay, cool. Do you have
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any upcoming events outside of your
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Groups? We're going to be an Arts Walk. So we'll
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be open to the public for Arts Walk on Friday
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night and Saturday during the day. So our participants
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will be able to create, make a whole place, a
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gallery. And so we'll have, you know, community
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art projects going on as well. So that's our
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next event we have scheduled. Cool. Yeah. Is
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there anything else you would like to share?
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Gosh, I think. No, I think I'm just really grateful
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to our neighbors in this community. I think,
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you know, we're brand new. It's six months in
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and we've been very welcomed. And, you know,
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with new people coming in, sometimes we have
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days and weeks when it's really messy with a
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lot of extra trash and stuff, but we always get
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it picked up. And so I say like, know that we're
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going to have bad days where sometimes things
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are a little messy. And then overall, things
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have been really great. I mean, our folks that
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come in are so respectful and kind. And each
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single person just has their own unique story.
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And it's just it's a really special place to
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be every day. Awesome. Yeah. You know, I'm always
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seeing people out in the front and walking around
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with their blankets and their stuff and sleeping
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outside when y 'all are closed. But when I come
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in, it's such a nice environment. And the words
00:25:41.859 --> 00:25:44.019
that you're saying are so reflective of that.
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Do you have any incidents ever? I mean, there's
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always something, you know, there's always a
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bad day now and then. It's been made very clear
00:25:53.000 --> 00:25:55.420
to us by the city that we're not allowed to have
00:25:55.420 --> 00:25:58.039
people sleeping here and camping here. So that's
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been a little hard because I don't think that
00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:03.299
there are enough places to sleep in this town
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that are safe. And there's not enough shelter
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beds and housing and people need a place to sleep.
00:26:08.579 --> 00:26:11.480
And I wish I could let people sleep here, but
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city has us on walking patrol in the morning.
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Code enforcement has really been on us with the
00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:20.799
trash and tents, and so we really have to keep
00:26:20.799 --> 00:26:24.259
that sidewalk clear, which is unfortunate, but
00:26:24.259 --> 00:26:26.460
it's also sort of the way it is. And our participants
00:26:26.460 --> 00:26:29.660
seem to really understand that. And so that's
00:26:29.660 --> 00:26:32.859
been going okay. But no, it's been really, really
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good, really positive overall. That's so good
00:26:36.500 --> 00:26:39.980
to hear. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. So yeah,
00:26:40.039 --> 00:26:54.259
it's been really good. And I am here also with
00:26:54.259 --> 00:26:59.339
James Condon and Goblin. And y 'all, reintroduce
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yourselves and what is your position and how
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did you come to be here at Franklin Street Harm
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Reduction? My name is James. I'm a Harm Reduction
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Support Specialist here at Franklin Street Harm
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Reduction. I have worked in services for a few
00:27:15.839 --> 00:27:20.740
years now. And yeah, just happenstance was looking
00:27:20.740 --> 00:27:24.680
for a job one day. And I was like, not expecting
00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:26.680
to get anything, and then I found this, and then
00:27:26.680 --> 00:27:29.099
I was like, well, I'll apply. I might probably
00:27:29.099 --> 00:27:31.779
won't get it. But then now I'm here and it's
00:27:31.779 --> 00:27:35.490
pretty awesome. So yeah. wonderful yeah yeah
00:27:35.490 --> 00:27:39.869
thank you. And, and you, Goblin? So i have been living
00:27:39.869 --> 00:27:43.289
in Olympia since 2020 i moved here in January
00:27:43.289 --> 00:27:47.309
um I've been homeless in downtown Olympia, or
00:27:47.309 --> 00:27:50.609
just, like, in Olympia in general for off and on,
00:27:50.609 --> 00:27:54.890
about two two and a half years, um, and I worked
00:27:54.890 --> 00:27:57.150
different services at the time, I worked up the
00:27:57.150 --> 00:28:00.670
HUGS Food Pantry, um, did a lot of work there.. um,
00:28:00.670 --> 00:28:03.619
both the old version during the height of Covid,
00:28:03.740 --> 00:28:06.180
and the more recent version over at Gabi's...
00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:10.059
I worked with the Gender Justice League, Lavender
00:28:10.059 --> 00:28:12.539
Rights Project... usually doing advocacy work.
00:28:12.819 --> 00:28:16.619
I've done some AmeriCorps work, and before here,
00:28:17.099 --> 00:28:18.920
directly before here, I had been working at a
00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:23.000
weed farm, and I was rage applying, as the kids
00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:26.740
do, and just stumbled across this place. that
00:28:26.740 --> 00:28:30.099
was three blocks, apparently, from where I was
00:28:30.099 --> 00:28:33.700
supposed to be moving, and it just.. cards on the
00:28:33.700 --> 00:28:35.599
table. It all just worked out. Pretty great ride.
00:28:35.920 --> 00:28:38.480
That's awesome. Yeah, and you were in my previous
00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:42.920
interview, Gabi's Kids and HUGS QT Food Pantry,
00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:45.480
number six. Yeah, your attentive listeners might
00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:50.019
remember me from that time. Maybe. Okay, and
00:28:50.019 --> 00:28:54.500
so y 'all are doing... We are Harm Reduction
00:28:54.500 --> 00:28:59.460
Support Specialists. We do peer work, which can
00:28:59.460 --> 00:29:01.140
look a little bit like case management, a little
00:29:01.140 --> 00:29:04.339
bit.. not therapy, but a combination of the two.
00:29:04.420 --> 00:29:07.119
You're a peer with somebody and you stand alongside
00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:09.839
each other and you try to guide this person through
00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:14.519
what they need help with. And we also facilitate
00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:18.680
groups. Goblin and I each facilitate and co -facilitate
00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:22.039
a few different groups. And yeah, we also do
00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:25.359
open hours in the mornings where basically folks
00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:28.460
can just come chill, drink coffee, hang out,
00:29:28.500 --> 00:29:31.960
and we just sit and chat with them and try to
00:29:31.960 --> 00:29:34.559
help them get what they need to the best of our
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:39.680
ability. Can't save everybody, but we try to
00:29:39.680 --> 00:29:53.420
do something. Yeah, Christina mentioned the Individual
00:29:53.420 --> 00:29:57.140
Support. That's what y 'all do. Yes, one -on
00:29:57.140 --> 00:30:00.099
-one peer support. Okay, cool. That's really
00:30:00.099 --> 00:30:02.200
cool. Just helping people navigate different
00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:06.440
situations, listening, let them talk out the
00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:10.000
thing. Yeah, a lot. Like in some of my peer appointments,
00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:12.420
people just want to talk. Someone, maybe they
00:30:12.420 --> 00:30:14.680
just need someone to talk to. Other people need
00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:17.140
help navigating services. I've done a bunch of
00:30:17.140 --> 00:30:20.359
document replacement, stuff like that. You felt
00:30:20.359 --> 00:30:23.640
like a dozen people get their IDs. Yeah, a good
00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:25.859
amount of people to get IDs, which is a huge
00:30:25.859 --> 00:30:27.779
barrier for people experiencing homelessness.
00:30:28.180 --> 00:30:31.529
Oh, for sure. I had interviewed Phoenix with
00:30:31.529 --> 00:30:35.130
Integrate, and they had the homeless encampment,
00:30:35.130 --> 00:30:37.670
but they were also their own 501c3 nonprofit
00:30:37.670 --> 00:30:41.170
organization advocating for homeless rights.
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And, you know, they had been gaslighted by the
00:30:45.069 --> 00:30:48.269
city and told that, no, no, your encampment is
00:30:48.269 --> 00:30:50.410
fine and you have the legal right to be here,
00:30:50.549 --> 00:30:53.890
only to go have it bulldozed right after while
00:30:53.890 --> 00:30:58.220
they were going and voting. And then people who
00:30:58.220 --> 00:31:00.619
did not have their IDs on them now did not have
00:31:00.619 --> 00:31:03.000
them because they had been bulldozed. That's
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:05.200
horrible. Yeah. And that's honestly not a new
00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:09.420
story. That's, yeah, unfortunately, kind of a
00:31:09.420 --> 00:31:12.099
common type of situation, which to me sucks.
00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:15.619
So, yeah. So it's really good that y 'all are
00:31:15.619 --> 00:31:18.480
helping people get their IDs and their documents
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:31.140
back. Yeah. We've heard this. And what are the
00:31:31.140 --> 00:31:35.519
groups that y 'all do? So together, me and James
00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:37.900
do Art and Games with Goblin and James. Yeah,
00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:40.099
it was right off the tongue. In fact, that was
00:31:40.099 --> 00:31:42.619
the group we got done doing right before we came
00:31:42.619 --> 00:31:47.099
in here. And individually, like um, James does, I
00:31:47.099 --> 00:31:48.900
know, the Skill Share, which is a big hit with
00:31:48.900 --> 00:31:52.059
folks doing sewing, bracelet making, and everything
00:31:52.059 --> 00:31:55.500
in between. I facilitate the Writing group here.
00:31:55.980 --> 00:32:00.480
My personal favorite. I just, I love, I love
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:02.299
writing. It was something that helped me get
00:32:02.299 --> 00:32:05.099
through some very challenging times. Just getting
00:32:05.099 --> 00:32:07.980
words on a page is so important. And I encourage
00:32:07.980 --> 00:32:11.240
everybody to give it a shot. And I've seen a
00:32:11.240 --> 00:32:14.240
lot of people feel better after the group, you
00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:15.960
know, writing down something that happened or
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:18.660
writing down a past memory or just, it's just
00:32:18.660 --> 00:32:21.579
telling a story and just changing your reality
00:32:21.579 --> 00:32:23.380
for a few minutes at a time while you're just
00:32:23.380 --> 00:32:25.920
writing something down, and that's just, In my
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:28.259
opinion, that's beautiful. So I.. that's one of
00:32:28.259 --> 00:32:29.779
the things we do. I know we do a lot of SMART
00:32:29.779 --> 00:32:33.160
Recovery groups. I'm in a few of those where
00:32:33.160 --> 00:32:35.940
we go through the SMART structure, the Four Point
00:32:35.940 --> 00:32:40.799
Plan, very good alternative to AA.
00:32:41.619 --> 00:32:44.240
I don't know if it's officially recognized yet,
00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:48.339
that as in, it can be a replacement for AA, like
00:32:48.339 --> 00:32:51.200
my opinion, it's one of the better tools that
00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:54.200
we have access to. Like, I know if, like, back when
00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:56.420
I was deeper in my recovery, if you put me in
00:32:56.420 --> 00:32:58.500
an AA group, I would have fought you every step
00:32:58.500 --> 00:33:00.200
of the way and thought it was garbage and stupid.
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:03.279
No shame. Sorry, no shame to AA. That's not what
00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:05.779
I'm trying to do here. But I know that for me
00:33:05.779 --> 00:33:07.799
personally, if I was put in a SMART Recovery
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:09.380
group at that time, I probably would have had
00:33:09.380 --> 00:33:12.839
a lot better of an outcome. So one of the things
00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:15.819
we do, we also do a lot of Wildflower groups.
00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:19.359
Hearing voices, Visions, and Alternate Realities
00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:23.619
is one of my favorites from there. And so I,
00:33:23.740 --> 00:33:27.140
as somebody who kind of falls into that category
00:33:27.140 --> 00:33:32.400
for that group, it's a very helpful group. Just
00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:35.900
being able to form a community and be able to
00:33:35.900 --> 00:33:37.720
talk with people about things that affect all
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:40.599
of us in that group in a way that we don't need
00:33:40.599 --> 00:33:43.519
to mask and don't need to really worry about
00:33:43.519 --> 00:34:02.039
outside perception is very valuable. Can you
00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:05.099
give us a full breakdown of the SMART Recovery
00:34:05.099 --> 00:34:10.659
Group? Okay. So, yeah. So smart recovery, it's
00:34:10.659 --> 00:34:13.739
a harm reduction based modality. It's non -faith
00:34:13.739 --> 00:34:16.099
based. It's like a meet people where they're
00:34:16.099 --> 00:34:19.699
at kind of thing. And like, any sort of like,
00:34:19.780 --> 00:34:23.860
you know, and we're not bashing AA, but in AA,
00:34:24.019 --> 00:34:26.639
it's like the 12 steps. And then the idea is
00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:29.719
to get someone to sobriety. SMART, you don't
00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:32.019
need to get to sobriety. You just need to whatever
00:34:32.019 --> 00:34:34.840
step that you want to get to that feels better
00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:37.269
to you, you get...we will help you get to that
00:34:37.269 --> 00:34:39.750
um and if that is sobriety we will help you with
00:34:39.750 --> 00:34:41.730
that but for some people it's like cutting down
00:34:41.730 --> 00:34:47.090
or xyz and it's also not just for um like substances
00:34:47.090 --> 00:34:50.050
um it can be for behaviors like social media
00:34:50.050 --> 00:34:52.909
addiction or um maybe you do something in social
00:34:52.909 --> 00:34:56.070
situations that you wish you didn't do um yeah
00:34:56.070 --> 00:34:58.670
it's really expansive and like you know for AA
00:34:58.670 --> 00:35:01.670
you have to do there's Alcoholics Anonymous, there's
00:35:01.670 --> 00:35:04.230
Narcotics Anonymous, it's everything, it encompasses
00:35:04.230 --> 00:35:08.789
everything, all encompassing. Okay, so how, how.. so
00:35:08.789 --> 00:35:12.369
okay. I'm, I'm coming to my SMART Recovery
00:35:12.369 --> 00:35:15.650
group. How.. how, what happens, how does that work?
00:35:15.650 --> 00:35:17.690
Very first thing we're going to do is we're going
00:35:17.690 --> 00:35:19.630
to greet everybody with a warm friendly smile
00:35:19.630 --> 00:35:22.409
hope everybody's doing good today, and uh we
00:35:22.409 --> 00:35:24.829
usually roll off with our introduction, we have
00:35:24.829 --> 00:35:27.139
a little introduction sheet we go through, we
00:35:27.139 --> 00:35:29.159
talk about what SMART is. We talk about like,
00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:31.980
what's going on, the Four Points. So we go through
00:35:31.980 --> 00:35:34.019
that. We usually go through our group guidelines,
00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:36.980
which are just that full, you know, be curious,
00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:40.400
you know, please, like all of our like normal
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:43.719
rules from throughout the SMART. And then we
00:35:43.719 --> 00:35:46.900
usually do check -ins, say hi, let everybody
00:35:46.900 --> 00:35:48.539
talk about anything that's on their mind. If
00:35:48.539 --> 00:35:50.579
somebody has something that they have been itching
00:35:50.579 --> 00:35:53.760
to talk about, please do. And sometimes that
00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:56.650
can be a launching point. And if it's not, We
00:35:56.650 --> 00:36:01.090
usually go back to the Four Points and see which
00:36:01.090 --> 00:36:03.329
ones are resonating with people or ask if anybody
00:36:03.329 --> 00:36:05.670
has anything they want to focus on specifically
00:36:05.670 --> 00:36:08.670
featuring these tools. And we have a SMART Recovery
00:36:08.670 --> 00:36:11.449
booklet, like a workbook that we can go through
00:36:11.449 --> 00:36:14.710
and it has all of the different tools and things.
00:36:14.710 --> 00:36:15.969
And we give those out to all our participants
00:36:15.969 --> 00:36:18.889
when they come into a SMART group so that they
00:36:18.889 --> 00:36:21.090
can see what's right in front of them and they
00:36:21.090 --> 00:36:23.030
can take it with them, if they've had things
00:36:23.030 --> 00:36:26.480
that they want to work on with later. It's, yeah..
00:36:26.699 --> 00:36:29.360
we usually open that up for conversation. We
00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:30.760
might go through one of the tools that we're
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:34.800
using, you know, throughout that, you know, from
00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:36.860
that launching off point and kind of break that
00:36:36.860 --> 00:36:39.599
down. And then we do a checkout at the end,
00:36:39.659 --> 00:36:42.599
see how everybody's feeling and usually adjourn
00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:45.800
from there. It's pretty simple. It's pretty chill.
00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:50.800
It's very low barrier. Like there are no requirements
00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:54.039
to be in the group. You don't- like, you can you
00:36:54.039 --> 00:36:56.079
can show up high. Like, you can show up high.
00:36:56.219 --> 00:36:59.099
You can show up in whatever mental space. As
00:36:59.099 --> 00:37:02.559
long as we can talk, we are fine. Come as you
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:04.719
are. Come as you are. I was going to say that.
00:37:05.019 --> 00:37:07.940
Yeah. It's very much a meet -you -where -you're
00:37:07.940 --> 00:37:11.239
-at type of place. And I personally value the
00:37:11.239 --> 00:37:15.699
not focusing on sobriety, which, again, no bashing
00:37:15.699 --> 00:37:18.099
AA. That's not what I'm doing here. But, like,
00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:20.840
with AA, like, back when I was using substances
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:22.989
much more heavy. I know they would have wanted
00:37:22.989 --> 00:37:25.309
me to back off almost entirely from everything.
00:37:25.550 --> 00:37:27.889
And I realized that that wasn't necessarily the
00:37:27.889 --> 00:37:31.750
path for me. I backed away from most of the substances
00:37:31.750 --> 00:37:34.230
I was doing. The only one being cannabis at this
00:37:34.230 --> 00:37:36.610
point that I'm still with. California sober,
00:37:36.769 --> 00:37:41.329
you know. And I know that they would have said
00:37:41.329 --> 00:37:43.550
that's bad. That's something I still have people
00:37:43.550 --> 00:37:45.449
that tell me that's not exactly the route I should
00:37:45.449 --> 00:37:48.010
be going. But I've always felt like it's something
00:37:48.010 --> 00:37:50.969
that helps me. It helps me medicate. I don't have
00:37:50.969 --> 00:37:53.289
access to any medication for any of my mental
00:37:53.289 --> 00:37:56.550
illnesses, so it's a good it's a good substitute
00:37:56.550 --> 00:37:58.789
and it's one that especially, if kept in check
00:37:58.789 --> 00:38:02.869
can be very useful so I'm not a sobriety sobriety
00:38:02.869 --> 00:38:05.050
sobriety only person it's about finding your
00:38:05.050 --> 00:38:07.250
level, kind of everybody has their levels, and
00:38:07.250 --> 00:38:09.369
where they want to be and those things are very
00:38:09.369 --> 00:38:11.889
malleable they can change at any point like you
00:38:11.889 --> 00:38:14.309
could be one way for an x amount of time and
00:38:14.309 --> 00:38:16.789
then something happens, or nothing happens and
00:38:16.789 --> 00:38:19.579
you just say I need something to be different,
00:38:19.619 --> 00:38:21.179
and you can change that, and that's what it's
00:38:21.179 --> 00:38:23.239
about. It's about setting that dial, setting
00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:25.800
that meter to wherever you need to be and wherever
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:31.380
you are be. That's so validating and so nonjudgmental.
00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:42.039
Thank you. Do you know what the Four Points are?
00:38:42.710 --> 00:38:44.969
So first point, Building and Maintaining Motivations.
00:38:45.289 --> 00:38:48.210
Two, Coping with Urges and Cravings. Three, managing
00:38:48.210 --> 00:38:50.170
Thoughts, Feelings, and Behaviors. And four,
00:38:50.329 --> 00:38:52.889
Living a Balanced Life. A lot of the times we
00:38:52.889 --> 00:38:55.210
have people asking, like whenever we open up
00:38:55.210 --> 00:38:57.190
for the conversation, we have a lot of people
00:38:57.190 --> 00:38:59.570
anchor on the Living a Balanced Life part. And
00:38:59.570 --> 00:39:02.190
I find myself going through those tools with
00:39:02.190 --> 00:39:05.769
people more so than any of the others, not discouraging
00:39:05.769 --> 00:39:07.369
any of the others. They're very valid and very
00:39:07.369 --> 00:39:10.480
great, but I just know like... that's where a
00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:12.659
lot of people may even start their journey. And
00:39:12.659 --> 00:39:14.900
the thing about the Points is you can attack
00:39:14.900 --> 00:39:17.940
them in any order. So it's not a one, two, three,
00:39:18.059 --> 00:39:20.460
four, you're going down the Points. Some days
00:39:20.460 --> 00:39:22.619
you may be focused on living a balanced life.
00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:25.219
Some days you may be working on your urges and
00:39:25.219 --> 00:39:28.539
cravings and dealing with the things going on
00:39:28.539 --> 00:39:30.139
in your life, etc. And you're trying to manage
00:39:30.139 --> 00:39:32.579
those aspects. And you can kind of bounce between
00:39:32.579 --> 00:39:34.340
those points. I feel like that's one of the things
00:39:34.340 --> 00:39:36.880
that makes SMART so vital. Any of these Points,
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:39.019
are they resonating with anything today? Like,
00:39:39.019 --> 00:39:41.300
is anybody... so each SMART group is different
00:39:41.300 --> 00:39:42.780
because we're going over different tools and
00:39:42.780 --> 00:39:44.840
we're going, you know, even if we're working
00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:47.059
with splitting models, like, you may not be working
00:39:47.059 --> 00:39:49.400
with the same tools for the same, or for this
00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:52.409
group that we were using the week prior. And
00:39:52.409 --> 00:39:54.150
not because we're done using those tools, but
00:39:54.150 --> 00:39:56.030
because it's about adapting to whatever the group
00:39:56.030 --> 00:39:58.929
needs at that point. So some people will value
00:39:58.929 --> 00:40:01.329
or want to go over the Life Wheels. Some people
00:40:01.329 --> 00:40:04.650
may want to go over like, the ABCs. And there
00:40:04.650 --> 00:40:06.929
are so many different tools that we have access
00:40:06.929 --> 00:40:11.309
to, that it's very versatile. It's like somebody's
00:40:11.309 --> 00:40:13.030
bringing a car to the shop and we're busting
00:40:13.030 --> 00:40:16.349
out the toolkit. And we're just.. we have all the
00:40:16.349 --> 00:40:18.289
tools we need to work on whatever we need to
00:40:18.289 --> 00:40:20.949
today. And that's just. I like that analogy.
00:40:21.469 --> 00:40:26.909
Yeah. What are the most used tools? If you're
00:40:26.909 --> 00:40:29.030
asking me the technical definition of this tool,
00:40:29.090 --> 00:40:31.769
forgive me. I call it the Wheel of Life. Okay.
00:40:31.829 --> 00:40:34.429
Where we draw a big circle and we divide it up
00:40:34.429 --> 00:40:37.389
into eight parts. And we go, we have people,
00:40:37.469 --> 00:40:40.269
whoever is interested in the tool in that day
00:40:40.269 --> 00:40:42.929
or is addressing the problem, we will go through
00:40:42.929 --> 00:40:46.150
what is something that you value in your life
00:40:46.150 --> 00:40:49.480
and rank it on a scale of one to ten. So it could
00:40:49.480 --> 00:40:52.019
be drugs. It could be walking your dog. It could
00:40:52.019 --> 00:40:55.559
be, you know, finding shelter. It could be any
00:40:55.559 --> 00:40:59.199
certain aspect of life. And you rank up these
00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:01.760
are the eight essentially tenets of your life
00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:06.139
in your eyes in that moment. And so it can help
00:41:06.139 --> 00:41:08.840
give people like a perspective on where they're
00:41:08.840 --> 00:41:11.079
valuing things or where they're placing their
00:41:11.079 --> 00:41:13.179
value or if their values aren't aligned with
00:41:13.179 --> 00:41:15.719
their actions. Like if you're saying you value
00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:18.510
these things a lot more. and we're repeating
00:41:18.510 --> 00:41:20.869
these actions, do we want to have a conversation
00:41:20.869 --> 00:41:24.469
about that? And that's totally chill. Think of
00:41:24.469 --> 00:41:27.409
SMART tools. That's the tool I go to 90 % of
00:41:27.409 --> 00:41:40.090
the time. I use the other tools. SMART is only
00:41:40.090 --> 00:41:43.639
one of the types of groups. One of our... other
00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:46.400
groups is called Alternatives to Suicide. It's
00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:48.880
a Wildflower organization, not organization.
00:41:49.219 --> 00:41:52.239
Wildflower is a, I think it's an org based out
00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:54.039
of Massachusetts, but they have a lot of harm
00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:58.159
reduction based values that they follow, and
00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:02.340
our Alternatives to Suicide group is kind of
00:42:02.340 --> 00:42:04.079
like a mental health support group explicitly
00:42:05.050 --> 00:42:07.210
for anybody who is experiencing suicide thoughts,
00:42:07.449 --> 00:42:09.750
in the state of Washington, if you're a mandated
00:42:09.750 --> 00:42:12.710
reporter, you actually don't have to report if
00:42:12.710 --> 00:42:14.050
somebody says they're going to harm themselves,
00:42:14.449 --> 00:42:17.289
only if it's harm to a child or a vulnerable
00:42:17.289 --> 00:42:20.809
adult. So if people come in here and they say,
00:42:20.829 --> 00:42:22.829
like, I want to kill myself, instead of saying,
00:42:23.090 --> 00:42:25.989
okay, let's get you to the ER, let's do a safety
00:42:25.989 --> 00:42:28.719
plan, let's blah, blah, blah. we sit with that
00:42:28.719 --> 00:42:31.739
feeling instead, um, and talk about it, and talk
00:42:31.739 --> 00:42:34.860
about where is it coming from, like, why are we
00:42:34.860 --> 00:42:37.420
feeling like this? How can we help, how can we
00:42:37.420 --> 00:42:40.480
be present and move through that and, um, instead
00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:43.380
of just discouraging someone that kind of way
00:42:43.380 --> 00:42:45.460
and we find that people often don't want to kill
00:42:45.460 --> 00:42:47.420
themselves after they've been given the space
00:42:47.420 --> 00:42:50.900
to express that feeling um rather than just have
00:42:50.900 --> 00:42:54.920
it swallowed inside them, which I think is really
00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:58.909
cool. It is, it is. There's.. you know, there used
00:42:58.909 --> 00:43:01.769
to be such a stigma around talking about all
00:43:01.769 --> 00:43:05.789
of that, and you know, a very valid fear that they're
00:43:05.789 --> 00:43:08.289
gonna go and take you and put you in an institution
00:43:08.289 --> 00:43:11.269
and you lose all your rights and there was a
00:43:11.269 --> 00:43:15.690
time where that did happen, but you know that's
00:43:15.690 --> 00:43:18.269
not a thing now, and it's like getting people
00:43:18.269 --> 00:43:21.110
to understand that that's no longer a thing. That
00:43:21.110 --> 00:43:23.989
we're approaching it through, hey, let's be open
00:43:23.989 --> 00:43:26.070
about this and communicate about this. What's
00:43:26.070 --> 00:43:28.409
going on, you know? And I interviewed the Family
00:43:28.409 --> 00:43:31.469
Education Support Services very recently. And
00:43:31.469 --> 00:43:35.329
they were also talking about that, too. Oh, Alternatives to
00:43:35.329 --> 00:43:38.289
Suicide? Yeah, just talking about it
00:43:38.289 --> 00:43:42.130
and just like, let's talk about it. See what's
00:43:42.130 --> 00:43:46.090
up. Yeah. What else would you like to share?
00:43:47.069 --> 00:43:49.269
Well, I don't know. We just we put on so many
00:43:49.269 --> 00:43:51.409
great groups here. I encourage people to come
00:43:51.409 --> 00:43:53.409
and swing by and pick up one of our group schedules.
00:43:53.510 --> 00:43:55.510
We're also trying to put a group schedule on
00:43:55.510 --> 00:43:58.429
our website. I'm pretty sure if it's not already
00:43:58.429 --> 00:44:11.420
there. You have the Connection to Life. That's
00:44:11.420 --> 00:44:13.380
Alternatives to Suicide. Oh, that's what that
00:44:13.380 --> 00:44:16.179
is. We were using a different name for a second
00:44:16.179 --> 00:44:20.639
because Wildflower was going through some leadership
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:23.000
changes and we weren't sure if we could still
00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:26.769
use the same titles, but it is Alternatives to Suicide.
00:44:26.769 --> 00:44:30.309
So.. sure, you're using a framework for their program
00:44:30.309 --> 00:44:32.550
that they were? We are running, yeah, we are
00:44:32.550 --> 00:44:36.969
running that. Oh okay, okay, cool, and and how did
00:44:36.969 --> 00:44:39.829
y 'all find that? Up.. it's up in Connecticut you
00:44:39.829 --> 00:44:42.869
said? Um, for SMART, here, they.. we were trained
00:44:42.869 --> 00:44:45.909
with Wildflower's Alternatives to Suicide, which
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we're calling Connection to Life on our schedule,
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um, there was- oh we did group facilitator training
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it was group facilitator training and then it
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was.. also we had the SMART training, and SMART training
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the next week, so yeah. Tell me about your Skill
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Shares. Um, Skill Share is a group that I run
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every Thursday morning, the topic changes every
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week. So far we've done Duct Tape Wallets, Sewing
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um Mend.. like Invisible Mending, and all that..
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uh gosh I can't remember others I've also partnered
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with City of Olympia Walk and Roll program
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and we got a Bike Repair workshop in here, we've
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partnered with the Olympia Timberland Library,
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um and we had someone in there teaching people
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how to sew on a sewing machine. And they actually
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also donated a sewing machine to us, which was
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awesome. Oh wow. And yeah, it's kind of.. the Skill Share
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is kind of like an open invitation to anybody
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who wants to reach out, especially like other
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service providers that have a skill that they
00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:54.059
want to share that's applicable to people experiencing
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homelessness, of course. Yeah, they can teach
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to people. And I really am welcoming other people
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in to do this with me because I mean I only have
00:46:04.500 --> 00:46:07.000
so many skills that I could share. So you're looking
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for volunteers. I am looking for volunteers, yeah,
00:46:09.460 --> 00:46:11.820
teachers.. and teachers, if you have something that
00:46:11.820 --> 00:46:14.260
you want to teach someone, people come on down
00:46:14.260 --> 00:46:17.320
we have someone coming in uh i think in two weeks
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from now i was going to teach people how to make
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dentalium earrings which are a type of like native
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:25.519
jewelry with dentalium seashells, um we also have
00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:29.409
some someone coming in to do crocheting, so that's
00:46:29.409 --> 00:46:53.250
pretty cool. Oh, cool. Yeah. Nice. And y 'all
00:46:53.250 --> 00:46:55.929
just did your Art and Games today. Yeah, that's
00:46:55.929 --> 00:46:59.389
me and Goblin's flagship group. That's been the
00:46:59.389 --> 00:47:02.710
day one group. It's one of the groups that has
00:47:02.710 --> 00:47:05.110
stayed so far, and we think it's going to stay
00:47:05.110 --> 00:47:07.929
for a while, because it's so good. We have an
00:47:07.929 --> 00:47:10.949
Xbox... we have a jailbroken Xbox 360, which means
00:47:10.949 --> 00:47:13.769
that it has almost every single Xbox 360 game
00:47:13.769 --> 00:47:17.250
ever on it. It's an open invitation. People come
00:47:17.250 --> 00:47:19.690
in. We've got almost every art supply you could
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think of. I've got canvases, watercolor, collage,
00:47:22.769 --> 00:47:27.420
clay, beads. We've got everything. So, yeah,
00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:29.860
people just come in and it's like open group.
00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:32.340
We listen to music. People can make art. They
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can play video games if they want. They can play
00:47:34.320 --> 00:47:37.420
video games alone if they want to. And Goblin
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runs the games and I run the art. So it's Art
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and Games with Goblin and James. Yeah, we've got
00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:44.679
board games. We've got video games. I was like.
00:47:45.230 --> 00:47:48.449
What? You're feeling gamey? You come to me. So
00:47:48.449 --> 00:47:52.150
it's just a little Drop-In. It's not like really
00:47:52.150 --> 00:47:56.349
organized necessarily. But sometimes maybe people,
00:47:56.510 --> 00:47:59.469
hey, me and a couple people are going to play
00:47:59.469 --> 00:48:02.769
this game. Oh, yeah. Come in and within reason,
00:48:02.849 --> 00:48:05.230
obviously, do whatever you want. Like if you
00:48:05.230 --> 00:48:07.909
want to just hang out in the space, you're more
00:48:07.909 --> 00:48:11.210
than welcome. It's.. like, in my mind, it's a community
00:48:11.210 --> 00:48:14.409
space. They hang out space for it's been a week.
00:48:14.780 --> 00:48:16.579
everybody's been going through this thing, we've
00:48:16.579 --> 00:48:19.860
been here, they've been here, like come in, let's
00:48:19.860 --> 00:48:21.739
just relax the last like couple hours of our
00:48:21.739 --> 00:48:26.460
day and it's relaxing like I..I have participants
00:48:26.460 --> 00:48:29.019
that I never thought would play video games, come up
00:48:29.019 --> 00:48:31.599
and be like yeah I'm ready to play and I'm like
00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:35.099
yeah! We got a little.. a little like, older lady
00:48:35.099 --> 00:48:37.159
last week com in, and she was like, you guys got
00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:39.280
Call of Duty? You got anything with zombies? And
00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:42.980
she was on there playing zombies. Yeah, that was
00:48:42.980 --> 00:48:45.119
awesome. That was so much fun. That was so much
00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:48.260
fun. I tried so hard to keep her alive, but the
00:48:48.260 --> 00:48:51.019
box kept giving me awful weapons. Oh, I know.
00:49:00.610 --> 00:49:03.289
What's the difference between Art and Games and
00:49:03.289 --> 00:49:06.010
Creative Expression? Well, Creative Expressions
00:49:06.010 --> 00:49:09.389
is also a Wildflower -based group, and it is an
00:49:09.389 --> 00:49:12.650
art group with a therapeutic prompt. Okay. Like,
00:49:12.650 --> 00:49:14.469
what did we do this week? I think it was like...
00:49:14.550 --> 00:49:17.789
or last week we did.. make a gift out of clay for
00:49:17.789 --> 00:49:20.610
somebody who has made a positive impact in your
00:49:20.610 --> 00:49:25.199
life. And I think this week I did... gosh I don't
00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:27.320
know, a time think of a time that you were proud
00:49:27.320 --> 00:49:29.699
of yourself stuff like that. It's like an art
00:49:29.699 --> 00:49:32.059
therapy. Art therapy, but we don't call it art
00:49:32.059 --> 00:49:35.079
therapy, but like, um yeah, that's Creative Expressions
00:49:35.079 --> 00:49:37.679
is like that, and it I leave it pretty open for
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:40.260
folks to make what kind of whatever art they
00:49:40.260 --> 00:49:42.420
want to make but usually I do, have like a.. There's
00:49:42.420 --> 00:49:45.940
like a theme. Yeah okay cool, and then Art and
00:49:45.940 --> 00:49:49.559
Games is just expansive, whatever.. open just come
00:49:49.559 --> 00:50:09.659
make art or play.. The final question, is there
00:50:09.659 --> 00:50:14.119
anything else you would like to share? No, I
00:50:14.119 --> 00:50:17.219
think that this is a great place and I am really
00:50:17.219 --> 00:50:20.789
proud and happy to be working here. And I encourage
00:50:20.789 --> 00:50:23.469
folks to swing by. Try to participate in our
00:50:23.469 --> 00:50:25.489
groups if you want. Come by for groups. Come
00:50:25.489 --> 00:50:28.550
check us out. Come talk to us. If you even want
00:50:28.550 --> 00:50:30.730
to just come get a cup of coffee, we have the
00:50:30.730 --> 00:50:32.969
same coffee that used to be at Burial Grounds.
00:50:33.469 --> 00:50:36.369
It's Wobbly Cup. So that's pretty cool. Yeah,
00:50:36.429 --> 00:50:39.309
just come chill with us. And I don't want to
00:50:39.309 --> 00:50:42.409
sound redundant, but yeah, absolutely. Please
00:50:42.409 --> 00:50:47.329
come check us out. Our services are open to everyone.
00:50:47.429 --> 00:50:51.059
So please. don't be afraid, like if you're nervous
00:50:51.059 --> 00:50:53.679
and you feel like you are in need of something,
00:50:53.679 --> 00:50:55.619
if you're in need of someone to talk to, if you're
00:50:55.619 --> 00:50:58.420
in need.. if there's just like, I don't care what
00:50:58.420 --> 00:50:59.619
it is, i don't care if you're trying to fill out
00:50:59.619 --> 00:51:01.940
your FAFSA, and you're just confused and needing
00:51:01.940 --> 00:51:04.500
help with it, come sit down with somebody, come
00:51:04.500 --> 00:51:08.260
meet somebody, we will help, um, whatever barriers
00:51:08.260 --> 00:51:11.719
you're facing our whole goal is to help lift
00:51:11.719 --> 00:51:13.820
those barriers up so that we can all get through
00:51:13.820 --> 00:51:17.519
it, so please do not be afraid come check us out,
00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:22.769
we don't bite.. At least not hard. (laughing) And we do serve
00:51:22.769 --> 00:51:24.030
a lot of people who experience homelessness,
00:51:24.269 --> 00:51:26.730
but like Goblin said, our services are not just
00:51:26.730 --> 00:51:28.690
for people experiencing homelessness. Everybody
00:51:28.690 --> 00:51:32.130
is welcome in this space. Awesome. Thank you
00:51:32.130 --> 00:51:43.829
so much. No problem. Thanks for having us. The
00:51:43.829 --> 00:51:46.630
Self -Management and Recovery Training, also
00:51:46.630 --> 00:51:50.170
known as SMART Recovery, is a great facilitation
00:51:50.170 --> 00:51:53.110
for recovery I was glad to learn about from Franklin
00:51:53.110 --> 00:51:55.789
Street Harm Reduction. If you would like to find
00:51:55.789 --> 00:51:59.869
out more, you can visit smartrecovery.org or
00:51:59.869 --> 00:52:02.630
drop in and visit Goblin and James and see for
00:52:02.630 --> 00:52:06.659
yourself how SMART Recovery can help you. And
00:52:06.659 --> 00:52:09.659
if you would like to swing by, you can find Franklin
00:52:09.659 --> 00:52:13.699
Street Harm Reduction at 704 Franklin Street
00:52:13.699 --> 00:52:17.099
Southeast in downtown Olympia, just one block
00:52:17.099 --> 00:52:20.340
down from Olympia Timberland Library. Look for
00:52:20.340 --> 00:52:22.960
the purple building. You can also give them a
00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:31.760
call at 360 -999 -6646 and online at franklinstreetharmreduction
00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:36.780
.org. In addition, you can learn more about the
00:52:36.780 --> 00:52:40.300
mobile Hope and Healing Clinic drop -in van located
00:52:40.300 --> 00:52:43.079
in the parking lot of Franklin Street Harm Reduction
00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:56.820
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