'The Screamisode' (With Victor Alexander)*

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why?
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[SPEAKER_01]: How am I?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a rough couple of days.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not to get into it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you have real reasons.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I fuck.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is embarrassing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is on this recorded as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is my support system guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Goodbye.
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[SPEAKER_01]: really applaud a judge.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just the war with Iran, and America is impacting people who I'm very close with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, so there's been a lot of fear, a lot of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm, this is the episode isn't about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm, you know, let's talk about the screen franchise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone I know is okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're evacuated.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is a great chance to think about something else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's my situation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't sleep very well last night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't sleep very well last night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we had it all as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I do want to take a chance to say because I don't know if everybody has a chance to look at my social media.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But thank you everybody who's reached out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry if I've not gotten back to you or anything like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just been a bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My phone's been very hot lately and I will get back to you in the meantime but just want to see how I appreciate it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So thank you everybody who's been reaching out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And thank you, you too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a very weird situation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what to say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I usually like I'm very good at saying things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, God stop you by this way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what to say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like, um, um, I'm going.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm moving on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're here today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We are gathered here today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I don't like how I started that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a bit ominous.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, well, I guess I kind of appropriate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They have a lot of funeral in those films, but they didn't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't think they have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess they don't have time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Time one is down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about the screen franchise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, it felt like an appropriate time to talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you screen movies out?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you going to watch it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a lie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell a lie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I will watch it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I won't watch it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, that will benefit anybody involved.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I will one day watch it as I sail the high seas.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was about to say I don't want to talk about the ways in which I watch it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How I will watch it will not be spoken about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really hope we'll just get it out of the way to be clear.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope no, you're not pirating because I'm definitely not pirating.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would never.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would never.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to watch it on a yacht.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I have an admiration for the Somali people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They are the captain now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They are the captain now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, no, I had no interest in giving my money to a spy glass media calendar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, uh, was it paramount?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm not sure, actually.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know it's by glass because I've been to read so much shit about them But I don't know who the main company is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to say it's parallel But what happened to dimension films because that that is a moment when the dimension films logo comes up I'm like that hits a little that hits a little something in my heart Honestly, it's probably got back by Disney like everything else has yeah Or was that just like West Credence specifically?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it was like
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's like, okay, what should I Google?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Should I Google dimension films?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Should I Google?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what studio it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, let's Google what studio it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hang on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's it called?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Scream 7.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is why people listen to podcasts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're Googling for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's paramount.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's paramount.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's paramount.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so fuck paramount too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just to get that out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they're going the way of evil.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've been the way of evil.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They are new corporate overlord.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like we're getting closer and closer to that reality.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know how people say that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Eventually everything will be disney.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think now everything will either be disney or paramount.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So declare yourself which side of the war you'll be fighting.
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[UNKNOWN]: You know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, this is going off in some weird thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dimension films was Bob Weinstein's company.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then again, it's loads of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like associated with Paramount and Miramax and all this stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, Dimension films is the like horror branch of Miramax kind of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, but I just remember those from all those slasher movies or there's kind of scream adjacent movies were all kind of dimension I miss when they like there was a kind of identity Yes, to each studio.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we don't really have that anymore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you remember like a new line?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you remember search light?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes
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[SPEAKER_01]: That H-24's the only one that I actually like cleaned it with that and I guess Tyler Paris studio I watched actually this is a big good recommendation for people Don't know if it relates a lot to what we're saying but F-D signifiers video I haven't seen up in me to watch it, especially because like It'll keep getting taken off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and somebody on TikTok was like it's Tyler Perry He's doing this himself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He does everything himself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's doing this himself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's his own lawyer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's actually in drag.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His character is Miloio.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She works in Asia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She works in Asia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's a paralegal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah Very sassy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She has a gun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So much fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So many guns.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah Yeah, I know it's a good video.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I highly recommend everybody watch it if you see it online because I keep getting taken off I managed to catch it like literally within an hour when it was up and he starts it off Be like this will likely get taken off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was like well, I guess I'm here for the next three four hours.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh Go watching this
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[SPEAKER_01]: 24 hours, you know me I'm a double speed kind of girl.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What I wasn't super excited for this one like I was a lot of his other ones I just don't I don't think I've ever seen a Tyler Perry film apart from me apart from something apart from gone girl.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I can't deal with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My tie to Perry is gone go and when Tracy Jordan started his own studio, his own tie to Perry's style studio on 3rd year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how I know tie to Perry's style.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think as a self-identified vocalist, that's a good kind of glory for our page around here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, that's something she took around a minute.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get to that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think if you're a vocalist, a girl who spends a lot of time looking at black women singing on YouTube, you're going to run into Tyler Perry because Tyler Perry's whole thing is what was when he was doing a place was just hiring like the best church singers that you'll ever hear and that's when they were partly so popular and they were all musicals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I didn't make the transition as he moved his students.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was just about to ask.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they've been musicals all the time and I've been realized.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like a lot of a stage plays, yeah, we're musicals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As first play was, I believe just a straight play wasn't very successful, but then he turned it to a musical, and then it became very successful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it's a lot there with Tyler Perry, but I guess there is some relation to spy glass media, Tyler Perry's studios, they both have Interesting practices, high ranked practices, they have the fire interesting firing practices.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so I guess that's the long way into saying that today you and I are talking about screen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's start with the standard question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Victor, tell me what is your relationship to the screen franchise?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the screen franchise is interesting, actually, because I think a lot of people, our age, in like 30s, have a similar relationship to screen where it was actually what got me into horror films.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw it when I was...
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[SPEAKER_00]: A bit too young for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was probably about 10 and I begged my mom to watch it and she watched it with me and I loved it Did she like she thought it was fine?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think she was really painted she was more worried about me getting freaked out Yeah about it because it was like gonna be on TV it was years after yeah it came out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I begged her to see it She was sitting worried about me But then I was completely fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I loved it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I ended up getting on DVD somehow when I was way too young
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I learned about how it's supposed to be this kind of referential Meta for AIDS.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was in scoring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was trying, I was even trying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like cinema films too, as you go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it's supposed to be this kind of meta looking back on other horror films of the 80s mostly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was how I discovered that kind of slasher genre.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of weird how a lot of us kind of worked backwards on on this stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We kind of found out about all these this whole genre like through screen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then if you go on beyond the screen too and stuff, I found out about a bunch of other stuff like I saw a screen too way before I saw Terminator 2 or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they I caught up on all those references that they went on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I didn't really grow up liking horror films, but my mother loved horror films.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I was like nine and she made me watch Carrie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Really?
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's got a Carrie too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was like the rage or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it in the 90s?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there was like, I remember a scene happening like by a pool and like an expensive house.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't seen a Shroomen the reading about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that scarred me, I made me believe
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[SPEAKER_01]: for the most part, um, I made it really like well, you know, I'm challenging that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, besides the point, but scream, I did end up watching because I think there's something about the meta aspect of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That made the film student in my head be like, oh, okay, pay attention, like I find that interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I think there's like a, uh, it's referential in such an obvious way that it appeals to young nerds because it's kind of, there's an implication
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's not super-gory, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If there's something about the slasher, specifically about clean, that makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, the whole thing is very clean, girls, that's it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks very much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so there's something about it that made it like it didn't ping my anti horror radar and it wasn't super natural scary So I think that was so helped it not feel very scary to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think because I think it might be the clean ghost that's it I think it might be a few things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it might be the clean ghost that's it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It might be the
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[SPEAKER_00]: the humour, it might be like if, and the kind of nerdy self-referentialness of it, I think it really appeals to non-horror fans.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you give me your scream rankings?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's your favorite and what's your least favorite?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I thought we'd save this for the end.
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So mine would be scream one I think ultimate one of my favorite films of all time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I should start backwards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll start with my least favorite.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you're in people you're already spoiled the first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a tight race to the second.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So my least favorite scream five, which I think is like perfectly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, no, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My least favorite is scream four, which is the one with Emma Roberts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's got a good ending, I think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and I think it's pretty much got nothing else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it has lesbian Hayden Pentea in there But look she's a lesbian at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I read her's lesbian.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's just a short hair I yeah, that's not for me She's like literally making out with boys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I can't go out here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What oh wow the a major I see you Victor Well, that's my sexual rage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not lesbian.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but bisexuality on the way The road to lesbian is
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[SPEAKER_01]: After a while, I feel like we'll get sick of men don't we?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, of course.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sick of them right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, the penitiers, screen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, the penitiers, screen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When you're my least favorite, she's one of the few saving graces of that film.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought I thought Emma Roberts was great in it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually did think Emma Roberts is great, but she's not great until the end.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She, yeah, she did not really give her much to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, she hasn't got it, well that's true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But Emma Roberts was great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's good to waste.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then I would have screen 5, which I think is like fine, it has its moments.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually think Melissa Pararo is not good, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think she's very bad at first one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think she's bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In the second one, she is better in the second one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't feel that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Significantly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I think she got better towards the end of the first one as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that final scene.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think like the ending of the sixth one made it feel like, okay, you can do whatever it's about to ask you to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the sixth one seems to indicate that she was about to turn bad, you know?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's always the edge in those reboots, but like, um, and I was like, okay, I feel like I can see her doing that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But maybe playing like the journey towards that wasn't great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think five was two to dependent on one as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it was two, there were limits to irony and self reflection and all this, a self reference reference in referentials.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's limits to that and it was running thin by that point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's like the third time on the television.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's going to keep happening as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess the was the appropriate place to have it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is a very referential.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks, series.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so then it would be, so it's four, five, six, which six are kind of liked.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it didn't quite live up to its potential, but there was some good bits, six is one in New York City.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't think it fully lived up to its potential, but it had a lot of moments that I enjoyed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think they did a good job of taking advantage of the new setting that never set it anywhere like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One is my favourite, and three is like a completely different thing that I love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even consider it like a scream film proper.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It feels almost like scary movie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It feels like something else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I love three on its own terms as like a completely separate particular screen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jenna McCarthy's script exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jenny McCarthy's script.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, exactly exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it feels like Jenny McCarthy's script.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was a bit like the opposite of scream six actually, where like six, I think, did quite a good job of taking advantage of the new setting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And three kind of didn't like they never because it was such a parody and it was so dumb.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't live up to the potential of it being on a set.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, also three was like, it had its ending week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe, and then they had to just redo it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was them for two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so they kept doing that and then they had to like read it to think that really hurt the process and it was also written by a different writer, was a different director.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was, no, it was a different writer and she wrote for as well and it was like diminishing returns on her.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, although I personally like, I liked maybe it's because like that was the first time I saw them in the cinema was Emma Roberts's screen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the first one I saw.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I think I have like a bit of a dissociation with it where I'm like, oh yeah, I like that one more than I expect.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The latest series of reboots never really did much for me if I'm going to be honest.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I was like, it's fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I never felt like I needed this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't send you just be happy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can't you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Have a break.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Something just came screaming back to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had a scream.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't, I'm not doing this on purpose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Something just came screaming back to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Where do you land on the screen TV series?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you have a try?
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[SPEAKER_00]: awful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've heard that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was awful, like, unwatchable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The thing about the screen TV series if I remember right is that it came out the same exact time that like, screen queens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like, I, that was during my, let's see, the peak of my interest to Ryan Murphy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I, like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like those seriously because it was I found it because Screenfeit queens were just like a comedy show doing like hard drag and I thought it was really funny And then like Ryan Murphy old popular TV show kind of way and then you know Kind of really spun out after that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the next project after that was the brawl It was the beginning of the end
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I've really, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it was before his Netflix days.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's still like, that's why I never watched a screen series.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I never really bothered with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I don't see how this is really, but I think it could have been, they could have gotten so much out of the screen series, it's such a shame.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is what came screaming back to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was fully in my, like, I think I was in my early 20s, maybe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wrote,
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[SPEAKER_00]: A screen TV series fan fiction, because I was so upset, I was so upset, about nobody, you know what, I'm kind of proud of it, I wish I'd written it properly, I kind of wrote like a...
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is what we did with Wicked, this is what we did with Wicked part 2.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're writing it up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't do that in the end.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did kind of want to do that, but I have you Plotty.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have like a job in life now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have like stuff to do, so I don't I don't do that kind of stuff Any right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I never finished that kind of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Although I do have the instinct, but I had some really good ideas For ice cream TV series, this is what the podcast is gonna be down there recap my skin do you know one minute of us?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, then I'm gonna shut it down my screen TV series
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did a bunch of stuff that they did in screen 5 in the end and when I watched it using years later, I was like
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, they did the reddit thing as well, because mine was like, they met on reddit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I had like a podcaster, because I was trying to replace scale with someone, and it was when true crime was starting to become a thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they did that in the new Halloween films.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was ahead of the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You just made me think about when you were saying that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the reasons I didn't like screams five and six.
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[SPEAKER_01]: the new ones?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I didn't like the modernization of things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like it as a very 90s property.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like it as a very early era thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did, I didn't need a modernizer being brought back to this moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't feel like it had anything interesting to say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do feel like that was a dream that I didn't have anything interesting to say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was also about the technology of the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was very kind of, it was very 90s and it was very much about the technology of the time of like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Portable phones and I think I'd take a ticket more chess is and I actually might like not that Just agree with you by my display style a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that there the the technology interest was like media Was like news media also it was the first generation to like be watching stuff at home They are referencing all these horror films and stuff and watching them Watching videos which is was new to new-ish, you know film was
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[SPEAKER_00]: slower to adopt kind of cultural stuff back then.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but it was kind of, you know, within the last 10 years that people just really started doing that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just don't need that modernization glaze.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, the other thing I didn't like about it was I hated how there's like a retroactive force heterosexuality of the first screen film.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm making sure like one of the one of the gay guys has a daughter and I'm like, you know what, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Self-referential, but it's really simple.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Six.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's like, I might be seven.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, seven.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Six.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was just took a screen seven.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Has anyone done, like, have they not gone on TikTok and been like, screen seven?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm doing the hands.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think six seven is dead now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know, that's why they would be doing it more than ever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kirsta, I'm as doing it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just them and Kamala and Kira.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the screen killer Kamala and Kira.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's 6.7 HQ with Kamala and Kira.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know what it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's very simple and there's this kind of...
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[SPEAKER_00]: Phasical quality to scream one where it's kind of operates like it's almost a bit like The importance of being honest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there's this kind of especially that final scene at the end Then running around this house over and over and someone's getting killed in the garage And then someone falls out the window and sees the girl and you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then like the the bit where Stu is Matthew Lillard and Jamie Kennedy and they're both going like it's him and she's like fuck
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a bit a little bit Tom and Jerry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a wackiness.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a wackiness and kind of a comedy too, the structure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have of that structure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It certainly also like the way the ghost face moved.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there was like a bit of like slapsticky.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you're saying Tom and Jerry, I think it's an interesting call.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I, I do see it there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a bit loomy toonsy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My dad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm sorry to interrupt you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because I'm going to say I think loomy toonsy, which I think is why I can end it up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, to me, I know ghost faces like this huge cultural figure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To me, the bigger cultural figure is, as well as,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you remember that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but what's that going to do with it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The scary movies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, scary movies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the coolest face doing well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To be like, that's a bigger cultural marker.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that is what my philosophy first goes to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mentioned that, but I mentioned that to say that I think that is why it ended up transferring so well, because that's probably why it's still alive now when it shouldn't be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's scary movie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I feel like that's why it's because it was funny, but like we're saying there's like a comedic aspect of screen that I think Scary movie the way in brothers weigh his family end up picking out really really well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't know if they picked out well I don't really get scary movie to be honest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I Especially that first one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's already this parody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a clever parody and they're like, well if we take a clever parody and we parody the clever parody and make it dumb
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, that's comedy, baby.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just jokes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a scary movie person.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm very excited.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just saw today that the scary movie six trailer just came out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Way in the brothers are back, actually writing them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was like, great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the one that's going to say the one good thing to come out of scary movie is Regina.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anna Ferris, poor girl.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a fan of Anna Ferris.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think she's fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like Regina in it as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I quite like Anna in it as well, actually.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do quite like those two in it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I also, I'll tell you the other good thing is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's in the performances because it's not in the writing of those jokes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just in that position.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, I think she don't love herself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What was going to say, though, is my thing that I, other thing I take in ways with is the Wayne's brothers?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, I can't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my God.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, not to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're so beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Each and every one of them just like, you know you, you know you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have such a distaste of scary movie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, that I think that's what's ruined it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I think actually the one in scary movie, I remember being kind of turned on when I was a kid because there's like a bit where they come out or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, one here and the other guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then there's kind of a brief bit where they're like, bumming and I was probably being a bit like, oh, it was supposed to be like grotesque.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he's got a trans kid now, so that's fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're very loving.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, an off-scaring movie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so scream.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I want to add something to say about something that you were saying about Scream, which was that I don't think they ever modernized it enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They never did anything that really spoke to our cultural and kind of technological moment, and it didn't have to be complicated, but they never managed to do anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: they never managed to find a modern version of what they did in the first one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, they're just in a cycle now, like, regurgitating.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The thing about the first two of the reboot franchise was that, like, they were trying to do something else and for that, at least I appreciated it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they were trying to attempt something, but like a sister relationship and all that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, okay, cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like we finally taken a step after years in the wilderness, mentioning the screen series, but also mentioning that Emma Roberts won, you know, we just felt like confusion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think the biggest tragedy of like that sixth one as we move into the seventh phase is that like, it looked like it was about to get good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if they hadn't gotten it right before that, they'd not, I think the six came the closest to kind of something, but if they didn't manage to get that right, then they wouldn't get it right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The other thing, is that like, is the reason why we're talking about this, is the only why I want to talk about this, is that like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I severely don't care about letting go of screaming.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't need to watch it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not like dying to catch up to it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think as soon as the stuff happened with Melissa, we've got fired for saying that home Palestinians are being genocide did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know I can just flush this down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care about this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not I'm not missing anything That might be because it like my general and then I love screaming.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like I they were a part of like I guess it's a different type of my time in my life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I'm just like getting to this point in my life Where I'm just like things that
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[SPEAKER_01]: are actively harming me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: People need to let things go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let things go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're never going to feel the way you felt about the thing that you love when you first saw it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just like, I'm so tired of nostalgia as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm so tired.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think this is the thing, on top of the Melissa Bararray thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I would have probably watched this because I do like the, um,
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[SPEAKER_00]: the ritual of going to catch up on the latest screen world as a watcher you like it yeah yeah and there's something about you know they come out once in a while you go and see it I probably would have gone to see this if it wasn't from Melissa Barara but then I think because of the Melissa Barara of it all they were kind of like okay the audience know that we hate them
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's try and normalize all the worse things in the industry and then particularly the use of AI.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I don't know if this is true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't looked into it too hard, but I feel like there's going to be AI playing a part in the film as well in the story of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know this from reading spoilers, by the way, because I'm not spoiler-filled.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's I saw a couple of spoilers somewhere, but I wasn't sure if it was true or not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So um...
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it just seems to be part of this, they're just using as part of a machine, like they absolutely don't care.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it really kind of shows you, you know, what, what way would you knew?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But this has been a very in your face example about how much these studios hate the audience.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It really feels like fuck you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And why hate?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why are you using the word hate specifically?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because they are hoping
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[SPEAKER_00]: She, who don't care about anything, would not she, pigs will turn up and eat their s will, and they're just trying to, while they're at it, they're going to normalize AI some more than any other arm of their machine to normalize AI a bit more, they're going to help with some gambling app.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to do that as well and get people to gamble and who's on films as opposed to just sporting events.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who's going to survive the film?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can gamble about that now as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can use AI to put yourself in the film as well and you can do some stupid bullshit like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The whole thing is cynical, it's like next level cynical.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's because there was such outrage about Melissa Barara that they're like, let's just try and make as much money out of this as we can.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's speak completely shameless about that and let's just be completely honest about how much we don't respect this audience.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree with you on that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's like a fundamental disrespect.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, that feels too active to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's why I think I called out the word hate because to me it feels a bit like, I feel like it is active.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I think it's benign and that's the actual evilness of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think like you said, I agree that they're just like, well, the people will eat their soul anyway.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This controversy isn't going to lose us a significant portion of the audience and that the protests they felt wouldn't shift.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: A $45 million picture just first weekend sales are in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They just made $100 million.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It worked and they were like this is a franchise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It will survive based off of nostalgia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think what they did was they hit overdrive with an nostalgia button believing that that will end up drawing sort of the base of it in regardless.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Which you know what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know it made so much money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I like yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I think there's like a hatred towards
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying hatred specifically because of paramount and elicin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there is like a hatred towards the people, the faction that is represented by Melissa Berera, who is boycotting, you know?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think in terms of this, it has been a little bit of a mask off, hatred of the audience situation in this instance, whereas I think it's more than benign and something like
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[SPEAKER_00]: wicked for good where they were talking about how genius it was that they were fludging the market with all this wicked merchant doing cheap team and they were like oh we're making wicked and scaval of a blower.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just think that this approach has been like there was a veneer of positivity that was slapping all over wicked.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's less of an
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[SPEAKER_00]: is crass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Making an AI feature like an AI app in this day and age is crass right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we could didn't do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hear you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What I'm saying though is we could, when we could was coming out, they didn't have the facilities to do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: AI wasn't as big as it is now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, but they absolutely did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they didn't have an app to like, well, AI was broochening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it was to the beginning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We can part two last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, fair.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I just don't know whether that's any different than anything else that we just doing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think like the Oscars have an AI sponsorship, the AI Golden Globes were doing that as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's like now the industry's standards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like I don't judge them harshly for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think it's any less evil or more evil than everything else that they're doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't think it's less evil, I think it's more honest in a way, you know, to be more honest in a way that has felt more a bit more f**k you to the audience.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like before, that's opinion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're saying that because they're saying f**k you to you specifically, the audience who is by cutting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well yeah, but they don't usually say fuck you to the audience.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a bit more of a sneakiness to or like a not a sneakiness But with wicked for good for example with all their flooding merch was like
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[SPEAKER_00]: to disrespecting that audience.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I hear you, but I do think that like the difference, the same thing we're gonna use with it as an example, the significant difference is that like with this, there was an incident with Melissa where like they couldn't hide.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you're right, I think there's a mask off moment but with wicked, I feel like there was a bit, there was a bit more mask, but I'm not, and I don't know this for sure, but I can guarantee you that all of the principal cast members were told not to comment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, no, no, no, no, no situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To be what's more evil.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, oh yeah, totally.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There is a part because it's revealing if anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a part of me that's almost always Appreciate of in moments like this when people take their mask off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At least now I know it's like you've given me honesty and I can like take that in and appreciate that So maybe that's also way again for me, but I think maybe we're just agreeing about nuances But not the fundamental bear truth which is like fuck paramount Yeah, but the elicins a fuck's five last media.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and also fuck all the people who are talking about the movie and not engaging with that
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because here's my thing, is that I'm a person, I'm a critic, I am a cultural commentator, I'm someone who's working his based on looking at pop culture, talking about it publicly, and engaging with it on a public level.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a complete application of duty the amount of you out there right now who are podcasting about screen and doing everything that you can to not talk about what happened to Melissa when that is obviously the biggest topic out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is what I want to focus in on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I really wanted to talk about this today is because of the rate at which this is happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to look up what how much money screams made.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Fucking hell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's nearly as much money as the last film made already.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's an nostalgia franchise property.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've had on that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they were right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just can't believe it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What I found funny though, it took me a while to find it because I accidentally clicked on some page about how Wikipedia loves Ramadan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Lydia loves Ramadan, 2026, I was like, okay, sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me see how much screams six maids.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Which is the other thing about Scream 7.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This film is still going to be airing globally and worldwide.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This still is going to be airing in the Middle East.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be in the middle East.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so there's spaces that probably shouldn't, or you'd think they wouldn't air it, but you know, here we are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The world is not fair, the world is rather less.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Scoring 6 made 169 million.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're already well on their way to make it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: By the time they open into Nash, they'll be released.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't believe this, it's been so much bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why not?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why can't you believe this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ah, why can't you believe this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess it's just, there's been so much bad press around it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But bad press is press, I guess.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, there's also, there's such a kind of active element in going out to watch a film these days.
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[SPEAKER_00]: counting on a little bit is like there can't be that much interest in screaming anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They've lost a huge star in general take uh I just I didn't see people actively wanting to go out like it's not like we live 20 years ago where going to the cinema as part of people's routine that's not really part of the routine anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I could imagine this doing well on streaming maybe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like these event ties franchise properties.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like kind of just think there's like a roof that they're gonna like meet anyway That's more so about like the long tail will this film end up in the long run being a successful as a rest of the franchise I think that's the bigger question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that is the thing
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[SPEAKER_01]: That will matter most say the first day opening skills of conversation sell myself like I think adventures That's gonna come out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's gonna be a big hit as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's something that feel like Just because of the stuff around them will meet that threshold of success quote-unquote But if we actually want to ascertain whether
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[SPEAKER_01]: We had an impact in terms of our resistance towards it that something is going to happen down the line So maybe this is like a chance for us to tell the people that you're looking at these numbers don't feel too depressed Feel depressed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel really depressed now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've just found out so I haven't had time to act like There's a lot of shitty people in the world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You knew this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah a lot though and you know willing to I in my mind shitty people Lazy so I thought at least all the shitty people would stay home because they've
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[SPEAKER_00]: could they have got Netflix bills to watch?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I should just maybe a good opportunity then to actually talk about them and what does it take?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like Melissa Blair, I'd lead up a film, got fired.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The rest, well, the second lead of the film and opted to not join this project, the director, the director, end up leaving the project as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We know for a fact, Wes Craven's, put politics.
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[SPEAKER_01]: would have probably disagreed with the house by glass is doing things right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he had to put it in politics.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel this was going the other way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was going to do some politics.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What is going to make a difference in that then?
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[SPEAKER_01]: His paramount just bought Warner Bros. And they're mostly a lot more powerful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we know for a fact Paramount has a do not hire lists of actors for their support about Palestine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like, I do think that's like maybe a moment for us to like reflect on that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe think about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: To me it's about personal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a personal sort of choices and responsibility.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not interacting with us in any like significant way and I'm like fine with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's good to not place much hope and other people doing anything else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It says how you want to move.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm spiraling as word as we're recording this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now I'm like, I mean I think it's too late.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now it's made its money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think all the discourse leading up to it that's probably
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[SPEAKER_00]: But well now I'm just thinking should we even be recording this podcast?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to record this because I love screen, but now I'm like because I love screen and I wanted to talk about why I'm not going to engage with it even though I love it and I wanted to talk about what I did love about the franchise before that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But now I'm like a week kind of part of the problem that we're keeping there because it seems to just be
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, it's weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy how this stuff works because there's just no rhyme or reason to it because sometimes there's so much discourse around something It just will not make money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess they were very smart about how much they spent on this like the budget was relatively small.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really hate you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really hate you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The success.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I didn't expect that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did not expect people to care.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought anyone that's kind of
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you wouldn't care about Palestine or wouldn't care about Melissa Berrera and the AI stuff and the gambling app stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought anybody that wouldn't care about that would just not care about screaming anymore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought at that point where we're like sick of nostalgia as a collective.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think we're all as a collective as sick of nostalgia as we can be for them to actually stop doing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Too much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Crazy though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been almost 20 years of nostalgia.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Really like when did you define it as like the beginning of the strategy it was when so it was in the 2010s The in the early 2010s that we started to get remakes of things from the okay This is when the style just started when was the remake of Footloose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god when was the remake of Robocard Footloose remake Footloose so yeah They're not even funny enough to be called that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the, that was the early 2010s when this stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's been like 16 years of nostalgia like that when their that way because I remember footloos as well as already on the This one Trump dies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be done with nostalgia.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's when it's irresponsible for this No, I think it will have maybe partly because Trump got in and then everybody was just like fuck The he laughed then biting God and he was just like hey remember Obama Yeah
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think we've been like in a weird cycle of American nostalgia that has been like propagating through globalism.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know what else though?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They used to be a bit better about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think when we started getting really like trash nostalgia was the early 2010s, like 2000s, early 2010s, but actually
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think nostalgia's been a big part of the market our entire lives because if we look back, when did the add-ons family come out?
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[SPEAKER_00]: These films based on sitcoms was like a huge thing in the early 90s, so it's been around forever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to switch back on that because, yes, that was like a remake.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's also not adaptation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like there's some things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the quality was way better because that's an adaptation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's kind of lost.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I agree with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm just saying if you think about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've been in the style you've faced economy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, our entire life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do think like this is something I think about sometimes where I feel like part of the reason we're in this is because maybe because the boomers held on to power positions in the industry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they won't die and they won't die and they won't die.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like some of them have began to die.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just some.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And like now the gen Xers are taking their spots.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like the stuff when they were young adults.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And with kids is that's the stuff that they're bringing back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're like, what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, what's being rebooted right now?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fucking scream.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Scream.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, scream is very generous.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're getting like 90s revivalism, as well now, is the thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like that's a gen X or thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's like a 90s kind of millennial revivalism.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not that cause.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's just because the gen Xs are now just kind of stepping into those positions of power, where they can make some decisions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like that's unsatisfying because like the millennials who in a traditional timeline would be the ones making some decisions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm being frustrated because we're forced to deal with like, I don't know Do you mean Ninja Turtle reboot for the 16th of the time?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I think that's partly a that I think that's an inflow in some there as well Give me your scream ranking.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, God, it's even
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's my Beyonce from pretty hurts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, what's that good question?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I didn't expect that question It's fourth one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's fourth one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pretty You originally it was Cynthia Reever you were like I don't know what's happening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know that was happening
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is my favorite live in that exchange and I feel like not enough people The whole thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was layer upon layer of Greatness, Ariana's little karma eyebrow just meeting in the middle Go at rank stop stop Being rank deflecting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna start from the top.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh Because that's easier for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We need suspense Yeah, you can suspense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the one that I think is shit
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm gonna put two up top really I really like to I like the the reveal into Billy Lewis is long.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that actress.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like what's her name she's from Rosanna is it is it Laura me, huh?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it's Laura.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Laurie Laurie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, let's fucking hate it, Razam TV show and then I felt bad about it because we were just like Oh, so about the working class, I'm just like, well, she's awful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have a person I remember liking Razam as like a little kid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't remember.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I will remember I will say her husband at the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: John Goodman just like maybe Give me a little interest in some bear activity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, really?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I watched how I was like the bear necessity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I was when I don't go into like be my dad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that and blues feathers
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is he one of the blues?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll make a few things with Dan Acryd.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let me just double check.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Double check with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, but tell us, tell us number.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But number so two is one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna put one at two, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because obviously, shout out to Rosemagallin, who went on to the heights of Charnd.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then I'm going... Can I just say about Rosemagallin?
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[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, it is Dan Acryd.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just now, Rosemagallin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Jim Belufio.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's gone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Rose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Rose?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, how one decent performance was screened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She was acting like a human.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like job breaker because she wasn't acting like a human.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But she can't really deliver lines.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's so stiff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's something about it that I really enjoy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But she's like very stiff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like she's, she talks in every project.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's in a part from a screened one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The way that Nicki Minaj was talking on stage, it was just trying to remember her lines when she was a turning point, you were saying, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's so muddy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And she's not great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's not great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She was a model.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Love her, though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like Timmy, I always feel like the most beautiful woman in the world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's something kind of a little bit ghostly about, like I think she's so beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That said, I've always been team proof.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it did swim to this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Moving on now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was saying to Carlo before we were starting recording.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm team page.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I had to pick one from Chand, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm team page, although I think she's worth the least.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Out of all of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I will say that on average my favorite is probably Piper when she became a bitch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: from later on, but I say that on average because she was there at the longest, but I think I like prove the best because the sister kind of energy is a kid I used to do with those right, but everybody else is so annoying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hated prove, I liked Piper and Phoebe and Phoebe but I turned on Phoebe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I turned on Phoebe, yeah, but then it was prove that I was like the elder sister.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The fucking realm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean it's two one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 4.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Really?
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[SPEAKER_01]: My height.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 4 is Emma, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm gonna go 4 as my third and then for my fourth I will do 3, 6, 5.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so you do think of three as one of the you prefer four to three I do I think three Like four I don't like four because it's like a diluted version of three it's like three is at least so bonkers and dumb That like I enjoy it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do think it's like four ends up like fixing the movie for me I didn't fix the rest of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like that's the only part of four that I meant to tame I don't like three really partly because it was
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm assuming the cheapest one to license for television.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So growing up, it was always on TV all the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like it though because I hate the reveal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought the reveal was super stupid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it was a post to be Angelina.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Roman.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know, I know the character's name is all about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know the fix I did that was the fix, but I just hated the review.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hated the final fight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm finding it really steeped in that we're sort of like all of how submersive we're building.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't like it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't like any of the new characters that much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, terrible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I think it was legitimately terrible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's also the other thing about four is that the stuff that it was playing with seemed really interesting to me like all the idea of whether they're doing a group of the movie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're doing a sequel to the movie and then they like we created the house.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember that scene when she was walking along with neighborhood and it was like a soundstage in the very humble.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah and three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah and I remember everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh that's so great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's like so much you could do here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think really what it is is the revealed
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it's the most important thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do think like it can make sense of the rest of the picture for me because I do think I watch this As a detective mystery.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I don't I do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like an Agatha Christie actor, remember?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love myself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I get the mark and mean marble So I do watch and I try to figure out who did it and why they did that you know
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm willing to just go along with the ride.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's like long last brother.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fuck that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, yeah, there was so dumb.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was so dumb.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because the screen too, screen too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They changed it as well, but at least it all worked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was like a Randy and Stu kind of guy, where he's kind of, or there's a Stu kind of guy, and then there's like the mum.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the mum was good because it was like a throwback to awesome name of that film.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the one in the summer camp, Friday the Thursday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so it was a throwback to the Friday the Thursday and so that worked and she was very good in that way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She was like really funny, but also like really scary and also I love the play element.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Gisandra was so stupid and gay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That also very, I think freshman college.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like very dramatic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did find it really weird that she was an actress.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, why are you an actress?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not charming enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's my other thing about the screen franchise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do think that Sydney is really annoying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Sydney's great, I think, Neeve Campbell is actually one thing I...
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[SPEAKER_01]: Excuse me, it's all about Gail.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's all about Gail.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One thing that I think that is really telling actually of where the industry's gotten to is that like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you okay?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you feeling your foot's going to sleep?
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[SPEAKER_00]: One thing that's really telling about how films are produced nowadays in cost is just like they used to cast kind of crappy films really well back in the day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think screen was a crappy film in any way screen one, but kind of was crappy adjacent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It could have been crappy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a good version of a crappy film.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it did have a budget though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It had for that, I feel like they didn't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like they didn't know what it would do, but they were like, let's just go for it, you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But they used to cast these films where they could use to get people that can really act and really elevate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Neve Campbell really elevated the material.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's just on that note of casting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry to interrupt you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But do you feel like that is actually a big note?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because the first story we associate with screen is Drew Barrymore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the casting was clever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was engaging with that as a meta text.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do feel like they kind of lost that type of went on I have something to say about my fan fiction that was a genius part in my fan fiction Where it like so that turns out to be Julia Roberts here to kill No, what happened was we are taking the seriously and Eric Roberts is not coming in any of my projects
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you can't stop it, you will not stop it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, all my time was in the substance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, he wasn't in the substance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was then squared.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but then the same kind of rose up at Eric Robertson.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I tried to remind her of you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was hot for like those two years of the 90s.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there was going to be like a fake out Drew Barrymore girl who's the first girl to die in the first 10 minutes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a Drew Barrymore way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the first episode's going to follow who you think is Sydney.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But then she dies at the end of the first episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it turns out she's the Drew Barrymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the second episode is going to be all about trying to work out who the lead character was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It does to me, it does to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just keep thinking, that's it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's right your e-mails in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like six, it should have been really cool if it was the final girl ended up being Ghostface, which is where it felt like it was going.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would have liked that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What actually?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not what I'm there for for Scram.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care what you're there for.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh!
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm there too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, maybe I'm out of it too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, well you fucking don't I would have liked anything that would have been interesting like I've done it in just in way But especially because if you touch in or take a versus Melissa, I would have been fun That would be cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a confident thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like the sisterly bone not go fuck yourself
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I wouldn't like it's actually for us to start a movie with a file girl, you know, like somewhere we used to say it with like a Sydney, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then she dies halfway, and then it just shifts to like some other person must exist.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It must, I feel like the screen franchise has been done there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, they haven't, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like they really should, I know they'll never do this, but I can't leave.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Does she spoilers, does she die at the end of this one?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, she doesn't die.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All the exact that people are alive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Gale doesn't die either?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I forgot to say, I thought they might kill Gale, I was sitting in this one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, they knew, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So here's my big frustration with five and six.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they came so close to killing Gale.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You wanted them to kill Gale?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought if they killed Gale.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It would have been something that would have pushed it to like a different kind of thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But they just did do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So... Yeah, I don't care.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do we barely mattered?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I didn't mean to call for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't care about doing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fuck doing it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do we?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Domingy and the brother, do they survive, do you know?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, they survived as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, then the new ones, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll forget say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They do after similar to I think five getting like fucking gutstout.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They both get like rest.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were wrecked, but none of the apparently survived.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they survived.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But apparently like they barely have a role.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And apparently, she's a completely different character as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they really didn't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they barely had characters or like a sketch of a character.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I thought she, more than him, were like the, was like the best part.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought they were, they were beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's very beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think she's a very nice lady.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you're a gay man who needs to shut his mouth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, she's, I'm here watching her films.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, that's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One of us is messy, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: One of us is sat down, paying to see her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's she in the front?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who went, yeah, a fucking scab who went back to that film.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he sees you, she made a post.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My character, I've chosen for them to have they then pronouns.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love that!
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[SPEAKER_00]: You fucking, oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Remember those TikToks in like 2020, they were like these TikToks that were the difference between liberals and conservatives.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was like, there would be like, conservatives would be like, I think disabled people should die.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then liberals would be like, I think disabled people should die, he him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But enough about the bathrooms.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's not what we're saying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're saying that's what other people are saying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You leave us alone, okay?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, not me, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have one last thing I would like to say about the films.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if this is going to be a great conversation topic, but it's just a really important part of the screen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Franchise to me is just how good and how layered those two opening sequences are in the first two films.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the Drew Barrymore one I think is so great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so layered.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It sets it up pretty well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like one of the only parts of the film that's like really scary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then the second one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really tragic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Say we're so killer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, the second one is Jnapping it Smith.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, Jada.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then that's such a great city.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love how it catches you up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: See, you're telling you the second one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like firing and all cylinders.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The second one has Buffy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It gets convoluted really fast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It does.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It does, but like I would like this one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like the simplicity of the first one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I get it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's been missing from all of the rest.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think for me it's like one and two are like neck and neck really, but because it's a sequel Actually, it's a closest that it gets to some kind of simplicity That's fair But I think because number two is a sequel I think because it's equal they have like a bigger mountain to climb for me Well that's the fact that they made it About that opening scene that I love so much Hmm It's like the fact that they catch you up through this meta narrative that you're watching a film Yeah
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ridiculous version of the Drew Barrymore scene with Heather Graham.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it's still really tragic It's still a really tragic scene as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do love how sad those See's it because I kind of have no right to the Drew Barrymore jay to Pinkett Smith.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't jay to Pinkett I'll see the Drew Barrymore one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was so distracted by the by the wig I still to the stamp so distracted by the wig.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just like bangs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you imagine it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're having hair like that
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the old like she's a teenager.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was like if you're like hello my mom's not Like are you like her caretaker, but they do so I was 35 year old woman Yeah, she really was who's looking like you about to go work at a band that's very That's also the night that's that's what happens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What we think of as old lady here I was thinking about this when we watched that episode of murder she wrote
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was thinking what we think of as old lady hair is like that was some young person's hair I'm sure it is and they just never changed it and it's so old lady hair I'm so terrified one day you know like the television straight waves
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, let the continuity waves so if you'll notice if you watch any show on network TV or just television really every woman has the same hairstyle Which is like wavy sides and then the rest are just straightened because that's easier for continuity Yeah, so I'm just like at a certain point we're gonna
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's going to be so ridiculous.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Especially now we have wig technology.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're going to look at that and be like, oh my gosh, she looks like she's 67.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at her beachy waves, what the fuck?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Victor, so was that our thoughts on the screen seven?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I could go on about screen for longer, for like even longer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's so much, I know there's film so well, and there's so much I love about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Should we give them a recommendation for something else to watch?
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[SPEAKER_01]: As they try and like ween themselves off until the high seas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sleeve the wake-up?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't think that it quite, nothing quite captures the gloss of screen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Does it need to?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Does it need to?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I think that whole era of films is something to, I used to think if I know what you did last summer was like the kind of off-brand screen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I actually think it's in comfort.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think it can just after.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But like the same, like within the same 12 months.
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[SPEAKER_00]: J-law, Brandy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's number two if that's I still know what you did last time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my god Brandy survives She's like they did a sequel.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's on it
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's what came out with the sequel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was, I still know what, there was I always know, and there's another one as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When Brandy's in it, go for her.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is there a piece of my got one?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is what's on him in it as well?
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[SPEAKER_01]: General Love.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you months ago, that's what people were like really talking a lot about, General Love, he was body.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What about it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's been years and she's changed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and like that was a people-compatation with a woman who's like, over the age of 40.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, who used to be a sexist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For some reason, the way you said it made me think that, like, she'd been like, working out and she would really be like, well, I thought she was maybe a muscular or something, or like, she used to look like a bodybuilding.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She used to look like an average, beautiful woman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just Jennifer Love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hate when these people go on about these women, as if they're not like incredibly attractive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: especially when they're a little bit auditioned for page to go back to our charm conversation moving on she wouldn't pay she auditioned for her she almost got it they turned down Jennifer love you it the heart of her power I think so I think so she went out to the ghost whisper that's right it is better than ghost whisper
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's your memory, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't watch it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was watching Charmed, and I couldn't watch it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mama!
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a charm household.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The choreography will set me free, not that much, not that much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm poor, are you Shataila?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, I didn't I couldn't watch it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really wanted to work like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She didn't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She was dead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, she braced with her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Didn't she?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I sure we remember you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I know what you did last summer is good on its own terms.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have one?
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[SPEAKER_00]: How do we know it's 20 is one of my favorites as well?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Terrible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The faculty is also one of my favorites and kind of so low key quite bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually got into Halloween films.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really should.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How do we know 20's like its own thing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like trying to capitalize a bit on nostalgia by bringing back Jamie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jamie?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But mostly it's just doing screen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, okay, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because we're on the horror beats.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Two recommendations actually.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One, I will recommend everybody listening to go to your podcast app and look for up to get you podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is our cousin pod.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They are a horror podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm actually due to feature on their next episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, great plug.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just remember that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And also, I love those gals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm due to feature on their next episode where I went to talk about misery.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stephen King.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Love that film.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Rob Reiner, may hear us in peace.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that film and I had a conversation with Margo and we're talking about like fandom and it was a really fun conversation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I get a wait for people to hear it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's one wreck.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The other recommendation I was going to say, I think you and I were talking about this actually, but midnight mass.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I loved that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love Midnight Mass.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's, uh, I forget the creator's name.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the guy that does all the horror stuff on Netflix.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot his name as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he's not gonna do this anymore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think his Netflix you ended.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and I don't want him back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's like, found a bigger deal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's like on Apple TV.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or Amazon, I'm not sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Apple TV is taking all the girls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're taking all the girls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But look, look, look, look.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody watches it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But go on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I watch Apple TV.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But let's get back to it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Go on, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but, um,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, Midnight Mass.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is like so beautifully written and also to me I don't find it scary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's eerie in a way that I really like enjoys sticking into, but it does also have like moments of And it's so I thought it was so clever the way that it it kind of
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, puts Vampire Law through a new lens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really enjoyed the so obvious to me and I was like, why don't you ever think about it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's like, before I, before I saw this, I mean, I actually, I might do an episode about that one day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I do have some.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I didn't invite you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'll do my own.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll do my own.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You do your own thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, so Midnight Mass, how do I recommend everybody's that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Watch this out and then um,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that a wrap?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think so, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have any other messages you'd like to follow the girl?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wait, we do have one thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yes, we do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hi.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're launching a Patreon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Woo, finally.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you can join for free if you would like and your poor and don't respect me or my work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's on the tier I will be on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or there actually will not finalize that, but there's going to be two other tiers as well that you can pitch in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you want to give us some money every month
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[SPEAKER_01]: would really appreciate your supports and it will help us keep doing this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It'll be a proper, probably many episode detailing everything for you guys to listen to and more information, but it should be linked at, yeah, we'll be making announcements soon, but anybody wants to support us, we really really appreciate it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have one last thing to say about Scream.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do not watch screen 7, do not watch screen 7 on a plane, do not watch screen 7 on a train, do not know but really don't watch any ansillary market they make money off of that shit, don't fucking screw, stream it, don't fucking watch this fucking film, I'm so furious, don't watch it and if you watch it and paid minds going to see it in the cinema, shame on you,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You go on to alsopurple.com and you give us a money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: God damn you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: God fucking damn you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I agree with you.
01:02:02.091 --> 01:02:03.253
[SPEAKER_01]: How about feelings are less strong?
01:02:03.814 --> 01:02:04.836
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's more really great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think you've had five minutes to adjust and I have it.
01:02:09.784 --> 01:02:10.725
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going through a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm having a rough time, please forgive anything I've said this episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what it was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't actually have no active memory of things I've said to you And I hope it's okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not gonna add it too much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just gonna press play and we're gonna hope for the best Yeah, I take back anything I might have said against British government.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just in case Nigel for Raj does win the next election This is against the in the future.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love Britain Let's go back Let's go back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I don't know if I want that on the record just if it's All right over now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you guys