18. Can Objects be Haunted?

Elise Kelly (00:00)
The hair is growing on the doll.

Heidi Hansen (00:02)
Hair is fucking growing on the doll.

Elise Kelly (00:04)
Wait, what is the hair made of?

Heidi Hansen (00:05)
Just you wait. Just you fucking wait.

Elise Kelly (00:11)
Hi, I'm Elise, but my sister calls me Sissy. Heidi.

Heidi Hansen (00:14)
And I'm our sister

Elise Kelly (00:15)
And we're your favorite psychic sisters, spilling the tea on intuitive hits, psychic moments, and the unbelievable stories everyday people experience. Because we have a secret for you. We're all psychic. Yep, even you.

Heidi Hansen (00:29)
So come on sis, grab your favorite mug and cozy up. The kettle's hot.

Elise Kelly (00:35)
Heidi, have you seen on Instagram how people are like using a bobby pin and putting it in the third eye and saying look, your third eye is magnetic.

Heidi Hansen (00:47)
Yes. And it doesn't work. It doesn't work on me.

Elise Kelly (00:53)
it. I did it and it totally worked. And I'm screaming in the bathroom like, my God, it's magnetic. And then of course I'm like researching it like, wait, no, it's just because our skin is sticky.

Heidi Hansen (01:03)
Yeah. Not mine apparently.

Elise Kelly (01:06)
yours is smooth as glass.

Heidi Hansen (01:08)
Or it's just dry as hell.

Elise Kelly (01:11)
Or that but I was screaming and my kids are like, What what? And then so I was telling him, You guys, let's see if you ha you have a third eye that that's magnetic. And it stuck to all of their foreheads, except Frankie's kept falling off. I'm like, Well, Frankie, let's get you a smaller bobby pin, because I have thick hair, so I've got a big bobby pin. And I found a smaller one and he put it on and y I just hear him screaming, Dad!

I have a third eye.

Heidi Hansen (01:43)
Frankie Doodle. We

Elise Kelly (01:44)
I love it. Yes, dude.

Heidi Hansen (01:46)
definitely we definitely just dated when we recorded this podcast.

Elise Kelly (01:51)
that's true. It has yeah, it's probably not a thing anymore.

Heidi Hansen (01:55)
Probably not. But that's okay. It was it was interesting. Everywhere. I know. my god. Maybe it's still a thing. We'll see. Yeah.

Elise Kelly (02:03)
well, since it is we are in the midst of spooky season. So spook spooky season. Today our episode is going to be about haunted objects. Can objects really be haunted by a spirit or, you know, maybe just hold negative energy, or are we just making it all?

Heidi Hansen (02:24)
Fuck yeah. I mean, we're not making it up. There's bugging haunted objects. even prior to the research that I did, I could tell you that there is there's haunted objects. Yes. But before we jump into this super spooky episode, make sure that you're subscribed wherever you are listening to this podcast. And if you're watching us on YouTube, hit the little bell so you can get notified every time we drop a new episode. And also, you know, be sure you're subscribed too. So

Let's get into the tea with a little cheer. Cheers

Elise Kelly (02:56)
Grab your mugs and cheersy cheers.

Heidi Hansen (02:58)
clink clink clink clink Ooh, I like your ghosty.

Elise Kelly (03:00)
I have a mug problem.

Heidi Hansen (03:01)
No, it's so good. It's so good because it's a ghost, but it's like inlaid. It's so cool.

Elise Kelly (03:08)
Yeah, I have a mug problem. And well, 'cause Sean

Heidi Hansen (03:12)
I

will feel the addiction. Your birthday's coming up.

Elise Kelly (03:15)
Thank you, please. Sean has he's the chef in the family, of course, as you know. But so he's got all of this cool kitchen equipment. Yeah. Probably like pots and pans, you know, things you need to cook.

Heidi Hansen (03:28)
Although he has dull as fuck knives. Like he does. He does. my God. shit. I didn't get him a birthday present yet. I should get him a knife sharpening thing.

Elise Kelly (03:37)
Yeah. But he's so mad because I have like half of his cabinet space is taken up by mugs.

Heidi Hansen (03:44)
It's true. It's an entire cabinet. You can't help it. One entire cabinet full of mugs. But it's so good. They're so cute. Yeah. All right. So tea time.

Elise Kelly (03:51)
All right. I'm

losing my mind. Okay. Okay.

Heidi Hansen (03:57)
Just happened. Here we go.

Elise Kelly (04:00)
So you know how people go into antique stores and say, like, this one's super haunted, or I don't feel anything here. I don't know if I really believe in all of that entirely. my god, I don't know.

Heidi Hansen (04:13)
Like I totally do.

Elise Kelly (04:15)
Well, I guess I should just really explain. I don't believe a ghost is literally living inside an object, like a doll or something, but I absolutely do think that objects can

carry something energy or or just maybe be reminiscent of some energies from its past.

Heidi Hansen (04:35)
I don't know, sissy. I think I've got a doll story for you that'll change your mind. It's always a fucking doll. Always a fucking doll.

Elise Kelly (04:45)
Well, there's a long list of famous haunted objects. You could Wikipedia it, but I will say that I've always been afraid of dolls just because they I mean, they look like human, they're like they're just gonna stare at you.

Heidi Hansen (05:00)
Time out. You've been afraid of dolls.

Elise Kelly (05:03)
Yeah.

Heidi Hansen (05:03)
Yet you had a porcelain doll collection in your room, you fucking freak. What are you talking about? Okay.

Elise Kelly (05:11)
Hey, I don't think I actually liked porcelain dolls at all. I didn't think you ever did. I was gifted one. I was gifted one once. And then I was like, thank you so much. And then somebody else gave me another one because I already had a porcelain doll. And then I just kept collecting them. But what's kind of funny is that in my childhood early, early childhood, when we lived in Louisville, Kentucky, and I was like four or five, and it was

I watched Child's Play. Like, can't believe I watched that. But from then on, I was terrified of dolls. And I even had a dream about Chucky and you when you were just a toddler. And I had to make a choice between killing Chucky or you and Chucky morphed to look like you. It was a whole thing. It was terrible. We might have already talked about it on this podcast because that's how traumatizing it is. But I think for some reason, like I kept those porcelain dolls as a way to be like,

Noelise, face your fears. You can

Heidi Hansen (06:11)
Let's tell yourself that. But I really think it's just a fact that you're a people pleaser and somebody gave you a porcelain doll and you're like, Yeah, this is great. And then everyone just assumed, Elise likes porcelain dolls now. Let's just keep giving them to her. And she just like silently cried every time.

Elise Kelly (06:28)
I definitely had at least twenty porcelain dolls. It was

Heidi Hansen (06:30)
That's

a lot. I hated going into your room. It was terrible.

Elise Kelly (06:34)
I kinda did too.

Heidi Hansen (06:35)
Jesus Christ. The truth comes out. You heard it here first, folks. Do you s don't you still have a couple of

Elise Kelly (06:43)
So mom saved all of them. And now the kids go over to Oma's house and Oma's like, You guys wanna play with what your mommy played with when she was a little girl? My mom never played with that.

Heidi Hansen (06:59)
They sat on a shelf. my god.

Elise Kelly (07:02)
Yeah. And so then they're like, Can I take one home? And like, no, no, no, no. Stay stay here with Oma.

Heidi Hansen (07:08)
Jeez. Okay, well I can't wait to hear all these creepy ass doll stories.

Elise Kelly (07:13)
But so I mean it's not just dolls too, but lots of things have been called haunted. But a lot of them have also been kind of debunked too. Like the Debuk? Debuck? Dibbuk? Dibbuk. Dibbucks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Dibbuck box

Heidi Hansen (07:28)
Yeah.

Elise Kelly (07:29)
is supposedly this really haunted box, a wine box.

Heidi Hansen (07:34)
A wine

Elise Kelly (07:35)
A wine cabinet. A mini little wine cabinet. But

It was sold on eBay with this story that it's very haunted and bad things will happen to anyone who opens it. It's got like a negative spirit attached to it that'll haunt you and your dreams. Well, when it was sold on eBay, all of these people started reselling it because they're like, bad things happened to me after I got this. And like, okay, well, the original story checks out then. But later on, the original owner was like, Yeah, that story's BS. I made it up. So

Of me is like, is it just our fears that we're because we hear something about it and then we're we're like making it up? Yeah. Or it could be, do you know when we were talking about the elementals episode and we talked about how there was like an artificial elemental like called the Tulpas create? Yeah,

Heidi Hansen (08:29)
Yeah.

Elise Kelly (08:29)
like it was kind of a collective belief. It was thought into existence by a collective. So I think that can happen in haunted the main.

Heidi Hansen (08:38)
That makes sense.

Elise Kelly (08:39)
I think maybe we should talk about different kinds of haunted. Like what does a haunted actually mean? Because there's a few different ideas that get lumped together. So one way something could be haunted, people talk about a spirit attachment. So this paranormal idea that it would be a conscious spirit or an entity somehow like connected to the object. It may be like the spirit isn't literally trapped inside it, but it could act as an anchor or a trigger.

And like this this entity is just always around this object. And another one is residual energy or energetic imprint. And this is completely different idea, kind of like the stone tape theory that stone or buildings can can collect energy as memories and of of traumatic events. And then it replays as a residual event or haunting.

But it's not a spirit attached to it. Okay. So the object could theoretically retain some sort of emotional imprint from from people or experiences surrounding it. Energetic residue, I guess.

Heidi Hansen (09:49)
Hmm. Sounds

Elise Kelly (09:51)
Uh-huh. Another way objects could be haunted is with a curse or intentional energy.

Heidi Hansen (09:59)
Yes.

Elise Kelly (10:00)
Yeah. Yes. And this this is the idea that someone intentionally placed harmful energy around this object.

Planning to hurt or harm or scare someone. Yep. And no.

Heidi Hansen (10:11)
I got a story about that.

Elise Kelly (10:14)
Well, it we talk about it all the time when we're doing our intuition development that intent is huge. Like intent can just having the intent that you are protecting yourself, which we should probably do for this episode too. Yeah. Sure. Please imagine that bubble around us. And intent is huge. It can protect you. It can maybe do the opposite.

that I hate saying that.

Heidi Hansen (10:38)
We'll see. I wanna read these.

Elise Kelly (10:40)
And then again, the collective belief that the tulpas thing. It could be an enormous amount of attention, fear, and intention somehow affects the energetic relationship that people have with an object. But also, you know, from a psychological perspective, these expectations can influence how we notice and and interpret coincidences. But as always, I'm gonna say both can be true at the same time.

Heidi Hansen (11:05)
Yeah, I'm just going with like shit's fucking haunted. Let's do the simple answer.

Elise Kelly (11:13)
okay. Well let's talk about some of these. What is the what's the haunted what are the haunted objects do you have, Heidi?

Heidi Hansen (11:18)
Okay, so the first one I have is the doll. I

Elise Kelly (11:21)
Which doll? 'Cause I have a doll.

Heidi Hansen (11:23)
know. So this is the doll who the doll who I don't want to give it away though, because it's

Elise Kelly (11:28)
Okay you

Heidi Hansen (11:28)
a little story. It's a it's a short story. So this is in the year nineteen eighteen in Sapporo, Japan. So a seventeen year old named Aikichi Suzuki buys a doll for his three year old sister Kikuko.

And it's made to look like a real child. It's got hair cut into a blunt bob that's level with the jaw. And Kikuko loves this doll. She sleeps with it beside her. She names it after herself. But sadly, the next year, Kikuko dies of a fever, which was probably the Spanish flu. So she died quickly in a matter of days.

Elise Kelly (12:07)
Wait, I'm an idiot. Spanish flu went to Japan too.

Heidi Hansen (12:10)
Apparently

I it maybe it was everywhere. I don't ask me

Elise Kelly (12:15)
I know it wasn't just in Spain, but

Heidi Hansen (12:17)
Yeah.

Elise Kelly (12:18)
Bam.

Heidi Hansen (12:19)
So, anyways, the family kept the doll in the house, like at their in their household shrine, because the family has like household shrines of all the people who have passed, so they keep the doll. And then the brother, I got chills already. The brother starts to notice that the fringe looks like it's setting lower and lower than it used to. The hair, the all of the fringe on the hair, like the blunt bob, right? First it's a little bit past the chin.

And then it's to the shoulders. Stop. Yeah. Right? And then the

Elise Kelly (12:52)
Hair is growing on the doll.

Heidi Hansen (12:54)
hair is fucking growing on the doll. Wait.

Elise Kelly (12:56)
What is the hair made of?

Heidi Hansen (12:58)
Just you wait. Just you fucking wait.

So in 1938, they have to leave the island, but they refuse to put the doll in a crate. So they carry her to the Menenji temple and they ask the monks to take care of her. And the monks took the doll and they've been trimming the hair for nearly 90 years, but it keeps coming back. And apparently there is a reported examination that found the hair to be that of a young child.

Elise Kelly (13:30)
No!

Heidi Hansen (13:31)
Yes. Though the Temple the Temple never published this, so this is all supposed I mean, I believe it, but the hair keeps growing. So that is that is my doll story. And it creeps me the fuck out.

Elise Kelly (13:45)
That's really interesting because it kinda has some similarities similarities to my doll story.

Heidi Hansen (13:50)
Ooh, should we go to your doll story or should you like read my second story? Okay.

Elise Kelly (13:54)
Okay,

I'll do my doll story. Your doll story yours. And then my other one.

Heidi Hansen (13:57)
Okay, I like it. Okay.

Elise Kelly (13:59)
my god, your eyes buckle up. Okay, so mine is Robert the Doll, which a lot of people have heard this story. And actually, Two Girls, One Ghost. If you haven't listened to their podcast, they have done a full episode on this deep dive into Robert the Doll. And I think you should listen to that because mine's not gonna be that end up. Let's do it. Okay, so Robert the Doll.

In a tall Victorian house on Eton Street in Key West, Florida, a boy named Robert Eugene Otto, they called him Jean. He was gifted a doll. And the doll stood almost three feet tall. I think it was like two and a half, two, yeah, it's a pretty big, pretty big doll, kind of like Annabelle.

Heidi Hansen (14:46)
Ooh, gross.

Elise Kelly (14:47)
And it was stuffed with straw, and it was dressed in a little sailor suit with button eyes.

But they always said the eyes seem to follow you across the room.

Heidi Hansen (14:57)
like buttons. Creepies. It's like Coraline. looked another Disney one.

Elise Kelly (15:02)
Yeah. So Gene named the doll Robert, his own name.

Heidi Hansen (15:08)
Why did why did well I guess kids that's what they do.

Elise Kelly (15:11)
I never named a doll Elise. Kinda weird and creepy.

Heidi Hansen (15:14)
Fuck that. I don't want a dull weird.

Okay. Narcissistic children. I don't know.

Elise Kelly (15:21)
So but when Robert named the doll Robert, that's when he changed his name to Gene.

Heidi Hansen (15:27)
Ew, I don't like it.

Elise Kelly (15:28)
Uh-huh. And he's like, No mom, my name's Jean.

Heidi Hansen (15:31)
He put his soul into Robert the Dollar.

Elise Kelly (15:35)
Weird. And so from then on, the doll was Robert and the boy went only by Jean. Okay. And anytime anything bad happened that his mom was like, Robert or Gene, you did blah, blah, blah. Gene would say, No, mommy, Robert did it. So

Heidi Hansen (15:50)
fuck.

Elise Kelly (15:52)
he was kind of a lonely child and Robert was his favorite toy. But the family began to notice things that they would hear Gene talking in his room.

In his little high voice, chattering away, but then answering back a second voice, lower and different. But it didn't sound like it belonged to him. So they thought, he's just changing his voice to talk back as Robert the doll. Then also furniture was found overturned in mornings. Sometimes other toys were mutilated. Ugh. Uh-huh. And whenever anyone asked, Gene, what happened? The boy would just say,

S Robert did it.

Heidi Hansen (16:37)
god. Yeah. Yeah. And it was his favorite.

Elise Kelly (16:40)
It was his favorite toy. Well

Heidi Hansen (16:43)
Okay. Did this guy grow up to be a serial killer? Also

Elise Kelly (16:46)
No, but kind

of interesting. And he kept the doll all the way through adulthood. Nope. He had a very strong attachment to it. And I guess the family was also kind of rich because they had servants. And servants swore that they s also saw the doll move on its own, that it shifted from window to window and that its expression changed. And guests claimed that they heard footsteps and giggling in empty rooms late at night.

Yeah. And

Heidi Hansen (17:17)
About mm mm.

Elise Kelly (17:18)
they also said that they would wake up to hear sounds of like that low voice mummering again behind a closed door. What a

Heidi Hansen (17:25)
Creeper.

Elise Kelly (17:26)
c so Gene grew up, but he never gave away Robert. And then when he inherited his family house as a as a grown man, he gave the doll its own room in the turret. It's like this is Robert's room. And it would sit there in a chair by the window, just watching the street below.

And of course, children passing by said that, that's a creepy doll. And some kids would say, The doll's mocking me. And some kids said that the face would twist into a sneer when it was looking at them like yikes. But again, this is kind of that collective belief feeding into the scariness, some kind of giving it energy, turning it into it. We are.

Heidi Hansen (18:07)
Yeah. We are feeding the beast.

Elise Kelly (18:10)
So when Gene died, the house was sold, but Robert stayed.

The new owner's younger daughter took one look at the doll. And so the story goes, she began screaming and said, It wants to kill me. yeah. And so she also said that it would move when no one was watching. And

Heidi Hansen (18:28)
I'm sorry, they kept it, like she said, It wants to kill me and the parents like, silly child, we're gonna keep

Elise Kelly (18:33)
Yeah,

I think they just put it in a different room or something. I don't know, maybe they also were like, it can't leave the house. I don't

Heidi Hansen (18:40)
No

make it worse. Yeah.

Elise Kelly (18:42)
Yeah.

And now today Robert sits behind glass at Fort East Martello Museum in Key West. And here is the part where locals will tell you quietly in a hushed voice, like, you must ask Robert's permission before you take his photograph. They say that if you take a picture without him asking that he's going to curse you.

And so some people come into the museum, they're Yeah, I don't believe that bullshit. And they take a picture of him without asking. But they go home and bad things happen to them. A series of bad events. Yeah. And so this museum receives hundreds of letters from visitors begging for his forgiveness. Dear Robert, I'm so sorry. Please lift the curse. Everything's gone wrong. I didn't mean to laugh at you. I didn't mean to taunt you. I didn't mean to ask you take your picture.

Heidi Hansen (19:38)
That's so creepy as fuck. Yeah.

Elise Kelly (19:40)
If you ever find yourself in Key West.

Heidi Hansen (19:43)
I will not be going to take a picture of Robert. No. I won't even I don't even think I'll look at Robert. I think that would be a I think I'm just gonna completely skip it.

Elise Kelly (19:50)
No, I

also feel like I need to ask for forgiveness for even talking about Robert right now in the story. I'm sorry, Robert. I'm sorry. I'm sorry for everyone that was listening. Creepy.

Heidi Hansen (20:01)
I don't like it.

Elise Kelly (20:02)
Sorry. We were just sharing your story.

Heidi Hansen (20:05)
Yeah, it is a nice segue to mine though, because I also have something similar with curses and stuff. So mine is Busby's stoop chair. Yes, I've heard of this. Have you heard of this one? Okay. So

Elise Kelly (20:18)
A long time ago. I don't really remember.

Heidi Hansen (20:20)
I will refresh your memory. So it's 1702 in Yorkshire, England. Okay. Pictureless. Thomas Busby. He's in business forging coins with his father in law.

Elise Kelly (20:33)
As one does.

Heidi Hansen (20:34)
As

one does in 1702. So his father in law's name is Daniel. And the two of them had been like, you know, squabbling and circling a falling out for months. but one night Busby walks into the Yorkshire Inn and he finds Daniel sitting there in his chair, right? It's your local

Elise Kelly (20:53)
Place.

Heidi Hansen (20:55)
Busby's

fucking chair. And Daniel had the audacity to

Elise Kelly (21:00)
Tschüss!

Heidi Hansen (21:01)
sit in Busby's chair. So they argued, they had a squabble, obviously. And then Daniel just got up and he was like, I'm just gonna go home. But Busby followed him with a hammer. And you can guess what happened.

Elise Kelly (21:17)
Is he a Scorpio?

Heidi Hansen (21:18)
Probably.

He was murdered. And then so obviously then Busby was later tried for murder and then hanged in the crossroads that summer as a warning to be like, Don't murder people.

Elise Kelly (21:32)
Well, obviously.

Heidi Hansen (21:33)
Cause that works every time. then so the legend has it that before he was hung, like they always ask, like, do you have any final words? He cursed the chair on his way out. Okay.

So he cursed the chair. The inn kept the chair for the next like two hundred and seventy, however many years, and eventually Canadian airmen that were stationed nearby during World War Two made a game of sitting in the chair before the missions to prove that they weren't scared of anything. They're like, I'm not afraid of anything, I'm gonna sit in this chair. Right?

Elise Kelly (22:07)
It's good.

Heidi Hansen (22:11)
They were the ones who didn't come home. So that happened.

And then there were others that sat in the chair too and met with like a similar fate shortly after that. There was a chimney sweep, there were two RAF airmen, and then there was a builder who fell through the roof of the pub the same afternoon. So

Elise Kelly (22:30)
God.

No. Don't sit in Busby's chair.

Heidi Hansen (22:35)
I have so many questions for like why did the inn keep this chair for so long. Anyways, we're getting ahead of ourselves, but

Elise Kelly (22:41)
Wait,

didn't they like nail it to the to the wall?

Heidi Hansen (22:44)
I'm getting there. So in nineteen seventy-eight, the landlord, Tony Earnshaw, gave it to the Thirsk Museum and just gave it to them, but he asked one thing. He said, never let anyone sit in it. Okay. So it hangs from the ceiling five feet off the floor, just like Busby did. Gross.

But the museum has been threatened with legal action to take it down multiple times, but the museum keeps refusing. I don't know, because they're like, it's a creepy chair. I don't I don't know. But they they they keep it up. There's also speculation that there's some people that are like, No, like that chair can't be that old because the spindles were made from something, something or another. I don't know. But that is that is the Busby the Busby cursed chair.

So yeah. Dun dun dun.

yeah.

Elise Kelly (23:42)
Yeah, revenge is strong, strong energy, especially when you attach murder to it. Yeah. So

Heidi Hansen (23:47)
Mm-hmm.

Elise Kelly (23:48)
wow, he must have really loved that.

Heidi Hansen (23:50)
Really

love the fucking ch it had to have been like the most comfortable chair or something. I don't know. Like it was imprinted with his butt perfectly. It just perfectly cupped the cheeks, maybe. I don't know.

Elise Kelly (24:01)
It's like Papa Bear and the Three Bears. Yeah.

Heidi Hansen (24:03)
Yeah.

Elise Kelly (24:04)
Or Goldilocks. Like don't mess with my chair.

Heidi Hansen (24:08)
Yeah. I don't know. People are crazy, man.

Elise Kelly (24:10)
Okay,

did you say that this was in Yorkshire? Okay,

Heidi Hansen (24:13)
Yeah. Yeah.

Elise Kelly (24:14)
'cause this story is also from Yorkshire.

Heidi Hansen (24:17)
I mean England's a creepy

place. England is a fucking creepy place to go soon.

Elise Kelly (24:21)
Can't wait

to So yeah, my story is about the crying boy. And the crying boy is a painting, but it's not just one painting. It's actually a mass-produced painting that's kind of inexpensive, but it's just a picture of a crying child, which why like why would you want a picture?

Heidi Hansen (24:41)
I

don't know why you would paint that

Elise Kelly (24:43)
It

yeah. Want it like hanging in your house. Anyway, pass. It became really extremely popular in Britain. And in September of 1985, reports started circulating after a house fire in South Yorkshire, in which a crying boy print survived while the home was badly damaged. So most of the home was just burnt down, but the only thing that survived was this painting of the crying boy.

And firefighters said that they had actually encountered other fires where similar crying child prints had also survived, but everything else burnt to the ground. So then the British tabloid The Sun got involved. And the story exploded. The curse of the crying boy. Of course. And readers started reporting other fires and misfortunes involving this painting.

And then of course, eventually panic became so widespread that the Sun was collecting unwanted crying boy prints from readers and they organized a mass bonfire. Fuck yeah. Which is objectively probably one of the most insane newspaper promotions ever. But

Heidi Hansen (25:58)
Definitely. Yeah. They loved it. They were fucking eating that shit up, I'm sure.

Elise Kelly (26:03)
Yeah.

but the painting wouldn't burn, which is very interesting because usually I think most paintings or oil especially like oil paintings would just go burn right up. So years later they actually did a test on one of the crying boy prints, and it was tested in Britain's building research establishment. Okay. It sounds fake, but I think it's real. Must be if it's in the story. Must be.

But a plausible explanation emerged. They said, the print appears to have a fire resistant tarnish. And when the hanging cord burns through, then the picture could fall face down onto the floor, which then protects the image from the fire. Okay. So

Heidi Hansen (26:43)
So

Elise Kelly (26:44)
it does have an explanation. However, it is still very, very creepy. And just looking at the picture kind of gives me the willies. So

Heidi Hansen (26:53)
Well, I mean, yeah, and like I mean, I don't know how common house fires are these days, but just the fact that a lot of happen and they also seem to have this painting, I would I would fucking get rid of mine, that's for sure.

Elise Kelly (27:07)
I would not risk that. So

Heidi Hansen (27:09)
Did the paintings all burn when they like did the mass bonfire?

Elise Kelly (27:13)
That's actually a great question. I should look into that 'cause that doesn't make sense if it had a tire resistant tarnish. Ooh

Heidi Hansen (27:20)
Okay, we'll follow up on Instagram. Follow up.

Elise Kelly (27:23)
Follow-up

Heidi Hansen (27:24)
Yeah. Why did I just hear a door open in your house?

Elise Kelly (27:27)
I do have kids home. I have kids home, Heidi.

Heidi Hansen (27:30)
Okay, okay, okay, okay. It's not creepy at all. It they're just dolls.

Elise Kelly (27:36)
my god, the two porcelain dolls are still in my house. I have to give back to mom. I'll

Heidi Hansen (27:40)
Telling you.

Elise Kelly (27:41)
watch walking around as we're recording this stuff.

Heidi Hansen (27:44)
Stop!

Elise Kelly (27:46)
Okay. As always, this is the time in our episode when we need to practice our discernment from fear, anxiety, and intuition. So don't worry, it's not scary. We are going to all practice together our intuition as I am going to send out the energy of an event that I have been to in the past with a strong energy around it.

Heidi Hansen (28:14)
Okay.

Elise Kelly (28:15)
And Heidi's gonna tap into it, but you can also tap in. Please don't do it if you're driving. But let's start by first asking for protection. Protect

Heidi Hansen (28:24)
Please protect me.

Elise Kelly (28:26)
us from any negative energies. And we're also going to ground ourselves. And you can simply do that by just setting the intent of grounding. Maybe you want to envision roots growing out of the base of your feet.

And your chakras opening up, just feel that energy get lighter and bigger, expanding beyond your body, beyond your room, and connecting with me. And then as it's expanding, also ask for that protection bubble around you just to feel safe. And I'm going to start looking at an image that reminds me of this event. If you want to pause here so you can keep tapping in before Heidi starts tapping in and explaining what she sees.

Do that now.

Heidi Hansen (29:13)
I just saw a palm tree randomly. But then I also saw you with braces. So that puts it at like I don't know, what, twelve, thirteen years old?

Elise Kelly (29:21)
Yeah, I had them for a long time. You did.

Heidi Hansen (29:23)
That's

true. so I guess I don't have an age then, but you definitely had braces. I hope anyways. Let's see. Okay. I feel like Florida, I saw like a go kart. like when you when you went to Florida to visit family. Okay, maybe I'm gonna let should I let the Florida go? Yeah. Florida. Let letting letting it go. Okay. Let's see. Event. I feel like my my logical brain is trying to it's okay.

Elise Kelly (29:53)
Yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay, yeah, i and also let go of event because like this is just

Heidi Hansen (29:57)
Just helpful.

Elise Kelly (29:59)
a thing. It's just

Heidi Hansen (30:03)
But do do I keep braces? Okay.

Elise Kelly (30:05)
Yeah. Picture it as a place. It's a

Heidi Hansen (30:09)
Okay, a place. Let's see here. This is super interesting. I feel like I still feel like Pueblo vibes are like it feels warm. Okay, let's just go with our senses. So we're gonna do that. Warm weather. I'm hearing like giggling. So I hope it's fun instead of like terrified stuff. ooh.

I just had an image. This is probably my brain because I was thinking about creepy dolls, but I just had that image of the creepy creepy friggin' clown doll that from nanny fr from our grandmother's house. That terrifies the shit of me, out of me. Okay, okay. okay, but that wouldn't be happy. That wouldn't be happy.

Elise Kelly (30:53)
Said I was happy.

Heidi Hansen (30:54)
I didn't I just I I thought it was like I heard chuckling. God, is it creepy creepy creepy chuckling? Okay. Let me just get back to this.

This is so weird. This is weird. Okay. Why why do I keep hearing noodles? What it does noodles mean anything?

Elise Kelly (31:12)
I don't know.

Heidi Hansen (31:13)
Okay, probably not. I'm a wet noodle.

Elise Kelly (31:17)
No, no. You you were good. I mean I could chuckling. Yeah, you're good.

Heidi Hansen (31:21)
I can only see the fucking clown now at this point. 'Cause I can't get it out of my head and it's scary. I don't like it. What are we what are we What are we doing?

Elise Kelly (31:30)
I should

share with you what I have. Okay.

Heidi Hansen (31:32)
Yeah, you should. Okay.

Elise Kelly (31:35)
the event I had was going to, do you remember in Omaha, Nebraska, a place called Scary Acres?

Heidi Hansen (31:44)
my god, yeah. I do remember scary acres.

Elise Kelly (31:49)
It was a haunted house and so giggling makes sense. Yeah. Nervous giggling. You also you also said Pueblo, which like I is kind of picturing myself kind of stuck inside and in small spaces creeping out.

Heidi Hansen (32:02)
Okay. It's not usually hot for Halloween, but

Elise Kelly (32:05)
Not

but the image I was staring at is all like very warm colors. Okay. But let me share with you the picture.

Heidi Hansen (32:13)
Also I keep picturing hay and now I'm like, was that the noodles from like haystack? And it looks but I guess I yeah, I don't know. I was hearing noodles, so maybe that's

Elise Kelly (32:21)
See the picture?

Heidi Hansen (32:23)
fuck that. The clown. It's the fucking clown. And it literally

Elise Kelly (32:26)
Clown

head. I can't believe you picked up on that.

Heidi Hansen (32:30)
It looks exactly like the fucking clown.

Elise Kelly (32:33)
It looks just like the cloud.

Heidi Hansen (32:35)
I hate that clown. Isn't that creepy? I don't wanna see it anymore. Take it off my screen.

Elise Kelly (32:41)
Okay.

Heidi Hansen (32:44)
So there's the clown and creepy creepy fucking laughing. Yes.

Elise Kelly (32:48)
You got it, Heidi. That was so good. Yay! my god.

Heidi Hansen (32:54)
I don't want to get it though.

Elise Kelly (32:56)
I also realized that this whole time I'm recording my camera is kinda tilted at a weird angle so it looks like

Heidi Hansen (33:01)
A fun

Elise Kelly (33:07)
Okay, I'm very curious to see how you guys did. Let us know in the comments. Yeah. Let us know in the comments how you did and what you picked up.

Heidi Hansen (33:15)
And if you're enjoying these episodes, please don't forget to rate and review however you can on whatever platform you're using. It really does help push out our podcast so that other people can find us. And we're excited about that. So please do that. And then we can also enter you into a contest. We will pull a winner every single month for a free reading with us. So rate and review, your name will get put into a pot. And if you're not picked, your name will still be in the pot for the next week. Did I get it all?

Elise Kelly (33:43)
W

well, one more thing. When you rate and review, please email us so that we can contact you back.

Heidi Hansen (33:51)
Do

that, do that. Rain review, screenshot that shit, send it to us in an email.

Elise Kelly (33:56)
Email

us at hello at psychicsister tea.com with your screenshot of your review. Yeah. Put you in the list.

Heidi Hansen (34:04)
Then entered.

Ha ha for suckers. Maybe we'll choose you next. Be our next victim. Alright, it can't wait for Halloween. I want to go to a haunted house.

Elise Kelly (34:19)
All right, T Rimmy as well until next time. Wookie.

Heidi Hansen (34:23)
Keep

the kettle on for ya. Bye.

Elise Kelly (34:25)
Bye.