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Dude, the funniest thing happened, so I forgot to ask you for your audio for, like, six days. And I finally, I got your audio and I opened up last night, I opened up a project and I did, like, all of my volume treatment and, you know, the compression and the, you know, panning from one side to the other, I did all that stuff. And then I sat down at about 7:45 to start listening to last week's episode to, like, you know, just check it for anything I need to censor out or anything. And first fucking thing, you're. I can hear your spoon clinking against a bowl and you're eating. And I was like, dude, another week in a row, this dude is eating. And then I see the middle of your audio. Like a good 30 minutes is just missing. And I'm like, again, he. He fuck. He fucked up his audio again. And then the first thing out of my mouth on the audio is like, hey, dude, so how was your time at the Queen Mary? And I was like, oh, shit, this isn't the right episode. What's going on? And I check, and I check, like, your email where you sent me the audio. And I'm like, that's the right date. And I'm like, this project has the right date. Like, what's going on? It all just turned out to be. I imported both of our audio from the previous episode instead of the ones that I just saved. But I was for a second thinking, like, oh, my God, he didn't save last week. And he sent me the wrong, like, he sent me the. The week before's audio. But then, like, why does my audio match? Why is my audio also the wrong one? And, like, it took me so long to figure out what I did wrong. Like, I just kept having these thoughts of, like, again with this motherfucker is all my fault. Is so funny,
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dude. So did we talk since I've been in Annapolis?
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No, what's that?
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When I left, remember, like, last time, I was like, hey, can't do it tonight. I got a pack and we're going to, like, Maryland.
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No, I don't think so.
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Oh, okay. So that's why we couldn't do last. Or like that one week. Yeah, I talked. Yeah, I talked to you last week.
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Oh. So I guess we just didn't talk about Maryland.
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Oh, for reals? Yeah, I think we did.
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I don't know. I haven't listened to it yet. So.
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Fish was fresh. That's besides the point. So I got a cane in Maryland.
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A cane.
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A walking cane, buddy.
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Oh, Boy, I should have seen this coming.
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So the day
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hand is strong.
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Yeah, dude. So we go. We go to the gift shop at the Naval Academy, and we're walking around, she like, you want a shirt? Like, nah, I kind of feel I have imposter syndrome wearing Navy shit. Like,
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yeah, it's weird.
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You know what I mean? And she's like, nah. Like, you know, you're supporting Jack. And I'm like, yeah. I feel like people think they. They, like, look at me, and they think I'm military and. Because you
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do have that vibe.
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Yeah. Especially with a military shirt on.
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Yeah.
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And so I'm like, I just feel like an imposter. So I'm, like, looking around, I'm like, nah, babe, I'm good. Like, ah. Like, I'll wear a shirt to something, like one of his games or something, but, like, I'm good. And then all of a sudden, there it was, sitting in the corner, and it was like. It was like saying my name. I almost said it. It's like saying my name. And so. So I'm gonna call you the cat's meow tonight. Vibe I'm getting from you.
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Well, you're gonna be the cat's pajamas.
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All right. So I hear it calling me cat's pajamas. I'll
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just call you PJs.
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Okay, PJs. And so I came
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over there. Did you know. You're not gonna. You're not gonna believe this, but I used to give off a strong military vibe.
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Nah, I would never believe that.
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Exactly. I wouldn't have believed it myself. But now. Now I'm wondering if this was a sales tactic. So I had a high fade in 2011, and if people doubt that I'm cool, just know that it wasn't until, like, 2012 that every motherfucker on the planet had a high fade. So I. I had that.
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I can see 2011. I can see 2011.
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Yeah.
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I was around you at that time. You were? Yeah. You were, like, younger, and.
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Yeah, both of us were. What the fuck does that
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mean? I meant, like, you were, like, when Jay moved in age.
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I. I turned 18 that year.
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Yeah. Okay, so you were like. Yeah, you. You had hair, first of all.
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Yeah, I had hair, and it was a high. A high fade. And, you know, that was kind of like military or maybe, like, you know, some. Some nice Hispanic boys from Santa Ana. Like, not a lot of people had that haircut. So I'm walking around Memphis, and Memphis is a rough town, so I'm walking super up straight. I am. I'M very tense walking around the streets of Memphis, and the place is crawling with military recruiters because it's just nothing but thugs hanging out who need something to do with their lives. You know, they got off one plantation, time to go to another one. So I, I got approached by three recruiters, and they, they came up to me, and then they were like, oh, sorry, what. What branch are you with? And I was like, I'm not. And he's like, oh, I was gonna come up and talk to you, and then I just assumed you were already enlisted,
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so. Yeah,
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I don't know if that was, like, a sales tactic to, to be like, you're really cut out for this, but.
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No, I could see that back in the day for you for sure. Because once you said Memphis, I was like, oh, I was around at that time.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I guess I could see that you were like, you still had that, that, that height, so you still kind of, you know, you're a head above everyone else, if you will.
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Yeah.
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So, yeah, I can see that. You didn't have that big, ridiculous stash.
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Yeah, true. Well, because I had hair.
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Yeah.
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Gotta have hair somewhere.
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Yeah. That's kind of how
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I also, I also wore creepers that probably gave me another inch. So.
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Now, on that note, number one, went to Nashville with some friends and, like, some homeless dude, I guess, like, took something the wrong way or wanted something. Anyhow, a confrontation kind of broke out. And number one, with a group of, like, guys and girls had to stand up for the group and kind of, like, get them out of it because the guys were like, pussies. They don't make men like they used to.
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I just, like, I, I, I'm waiting for the day
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that
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I'm homeless person. What
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I wish a would,
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right? I mean, I just, like, I, I used to, like, I, I used to be a little more confrontational in public because I was like, come on, just give me something like, you know, like, I, I actually started experimenting with, like, how aggressive can I get with a stranger? And they'll still back down.
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So here's.
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You know what I mean? Like,
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here's where I'm at, man. You catch me on the wrong day, and I'll tell you what the wrong day is right now. The wrong day is when I'm in a suit. Because 90 of the time, I will have my cane. Now, when I bought this cane, I said, I want this. Miami said, no. I said, no, this. This is what I want. She's like, nah, nah, man. They won't let you take it on the plane. You can't do that.
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Check it.
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So I was like, no, I don't care. I'm getting this. Like this. I told you a couple months ago this was the next step. This and then I still gotta find a cool hat.
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You plan to this?
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Oh, yeah, dude. I just, I looked around and I was like, oh, like when you're shopping for one, you don't know what you're looking for. Like, they're all online. So I don't know what I'm gonna get. You know what I mean? And so.
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No, I don't. I don't know what you mean, because this is nuts.
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So we're there and I see it in the corner. Dude, oh my gosh. I take pictures. I send them to people. Now mind you, Merlin is cold at this time. It's kind of. It's sprinkling, it's raining and stuff. So I get to layer, you know what I mean? So I throw on the boom. The. The green like cargo pants. Throw on like the, the tan Jordans, then the boot. And then I think that the nines. And then I throw on a Zach Bryan shirt that has like tans in it that match the shoe. Throw my green watch. I put on my black jacket. Like it's a. It's a sweater jacket. Says product of grace on the back. And then I throw on my scarf. A cane. With that, bro, I strolled the whole day with it. People knew I didn't need a cane. We were walking across street ones and like a car, a Tesla, was like zooming down. And it's a one way street, it's small and man, I like had to need, like, almost didn't stop. And I was like, dude, slow down. And he like, was like, hurry the up kind of guy, you know, like, get the out of my way. And he takes off. I was like, dude, just get out the car. I was so pissed off I didn't have my cane with me. If I had my cane with me, I probably would have hit his car. So
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I've been friends. I've been friends with actual heroin addicts and I've never been this concerned.
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It gets better. So I, I sport the cane for the day, right? Then we gotta fly back. And I'm like it. I'm. I'm taking the cane. So I'm walking like I really need it. I'm like, okay, now, now I gotta put a little something on it. So then like I go through the metal detector. They give me a fake. They give me like some Old cane with a pool noodle on it in replacement. Because my cane has to go on the belt. So they put my cane on the belt and I have to take this pool noodle candy cane looking cane through the battle detector. Then on the other side it was. And people were like, I've never seen that before. I've never. And I'm like, oh, dude, this is like, this is totally.
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You have to pretend to use it.
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Yeah. Until like I got past security and then I was like strolling. Now, fast forward a week. I got a wedding to go to. So I put on my good old faithful pinky ring, I grabbed my cane and I put on my purple plaid suit
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and my top hat.
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No, no top hat. But I did have a pink pocket square with a pink tie and a gray shirt and brown shoes, cognac shoes. And boy, I got some compliments. And they were like, with the cane, I was like, so I show up, it's a co workers wedding, and Pete, my, my team starts busting up. They're like, no, you didn't. My boss said he shows up, he's like, yeah, you did. Yeah. And like, so we sit down and I got the cane. Like, we're sitting. It's in a church. I got the cane like in front of me, but in between my legs and both hands resting on it. You know what I mean? Like, just. And my boss looks over and he sees the pink and ring and he's like, my boy's back. So, so then like, she's like, dude, just leave the cane in the car. Everywhere we went, we went to a little mini bar in between the wedding and the reception because there was a two hour difference or two hour, like Gap, dude. I carried it into the dye bar. Then when. And I walked normal, I just set up against the wall, walked around, played pool, came back, boom, it's time to go. Put it next to the side. Put. And Miami's like, do you limp? Like, do you walk differently when you got that? I was like, yeah, I put a little swagger in it, babe. I put a little lean on it. What are you talking about? Yeah. Got pimp cane. It's a pimp cane, baby. Woo.
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Oh my God. I. It's like, you know, it's ridiculous. So it's hard to like, it's hard to get through to you, you know, because,
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dude, I'm living my life, bro. I'm living, I'm living like the life, dog. Like, these are
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things.
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Like everybody in that building was like, hey, can't. Can I Get a picture with your cane. Yeah. Huh? I'm pimping every sense of the word. Better trust and believe it.
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I. I just. I cannot hear any more shit about my black nails after you've talked about your cane,
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bro. That
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is wild.
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And a handkerchief dog.
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Yeah, you're not cool. You're not making your case the way you think you're making your case right now.
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I carry a cool old fashioned lighter. I carry a fountain pen. So, dude, I'm telling you, man,
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you've got a. You've got a quill.
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Not a quill, not a quill. It's. It's just, it's, you know, it's a Mont Blanc fountain pen. But I'm telling you,
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man, you've got a slave on each arm.
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That's probably the other thing I'm missing is some. I was thinking some security service,
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some shirtless black men in chains.
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Hey, question for
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you. Some John Coffee looking.
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I do need security sometimes. I think. So, dude, some old man walks up. I forgot what I was gonna ask you, but some old man walks up during this thing and he's talking everybody at the thing. So I'm like, hey, I hold the groom in, in great respect, so I'll hear him out. So I'm like, hey, hey, how's it going? I'm trying to be nice to him. Like, oh, who are you? He's like, oh, member of the church. I kind of introduced them. And it's like, oh, nice. He's like, yeah, me and my wife are here. We're. We're going on 35 years married. So he sees me in Miami. So I look over Miami. I was like, yeah. Both married 21 years. Three, four years divorced each. So, yeah, but we're living the life, man. You know? He was just like, okay, all right. You know? And then he's like, I noticed your cane. I was like, yeah, but you did. He was like, yeah, I have a cane now, but when I was younger, I had one that had a sword. He's
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like,
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back when I didn't need a cane, I said, I've been looking into those. How do you feel about them? And he was like, the sword is great, but as a cane, it sucks. I was like, really? He's like, yeah, but now the cane I need, it's. It's ugly. It's not even as cool as yours. I was like, oh, play your game right, pimpin. Get you one of these.
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I was, I was gonna ask about the sword. I've seen that.
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Yeah. He said, the Sword is a great sword, but the cane itself is not good because I've been looking at them. I got a couple in my. In my shopping cart. I'm just kind of like, what do I do? You know
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what's. Now I know you've looked into this. What is that thing that's like. Imagine two circles of wood, and they've got holes in them for all your canes.
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Oh, bro, I don't know. Like a coat. Rats. But. But
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it's like. It's like, okay, the. The base is like a circle of wood, and then there's, like, wooden slats coming up to another circle of wood, and the top circle has holes in it.
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Yeah, yeah, I know what you're talking about.
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Yeah,
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yeah. I. I. After I get a collection worth, maybe I'll have to get one of those, because I got
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similar. Two is a collection. Two is a collection.
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I need at least four to get to justify buying one.
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Three.
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Three. Come on. Hard three.
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You know what? This. You know what this really is? I'm trying to get you to hit rock bottom as soon as possible,
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dude. I'm so excited, though, for. I got one more wedding to go to, then the Christmas party, bro. I cannot wait. Me and my cane are gonna have a season. I'll send you pics when they come in. Miami.
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Miami left. But me and my cane.
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He's got a brother now. I take him out together,
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one in each hand, like. Like, oh, what's that,
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hiker?
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Polio. Like, polio canes.
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I know what you're talking about now. Hey, so check this out. You know, work, work, work was rough. I'm gonna ask you about how your business going. By the way, my friend. I want to say this real quick. My friend is releasing an album. Pretty excited for him. Don't really know how to link it here, because without it linking back to us,
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I think we're not gonna link it here.
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All right, so. All right, skip that. So it was a rough week because my boss was, like, kind of behind, and he was kind of trying to catch up, and doing so was kind of, like, forgetting what he was saying, what he was like, what he was instructing instructed me to do something, and then when I did, he's like, why are you doing that? I was like, because you told me to. He's like, well, don't do it. Do it. Don't do it. And I was like, what? Basically, he was like, follow up with this chick and see if she got the report. I was like, cool. I followed up with her Carbon copied him so he could be in the know. He's like, why are you emailing her? I was like, cuz, you told me to follow up on this. He's like, well, you tell her to only talk to me. Shouldn't. Shouldn't you do that? Like, you're telling me, like, go tell her that you can't talk to her. She can't talk, but you're telling me to not talk to her, to talk to her. Oh, so. So. But it was a lot
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like, we cut out the middleman here,
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right? There was a lot of like that for like a day or two. And then all of a sudden, he sends me a text and he's like. He goes, hey, do you want to go to the football game this weekend? I said, no, I got to finish Tylin the. The house. And he was like, Send me the address and send me the address. I'm sending two guys to finish that. Send me the address and don't say no. And I'm like, what are you talking about? He's like. And I kind of figured out. I was like, we'll just talk after the meeting. So the meeting comes at the end of it, the other guy wants to talk to him. So I'm like, cool. Just gonna leave this alone, Fucking do my thing. And then he calls me and he's like, hey, I'm gonna send a couple guys over there to knock out all that tile. I'm like, dude, there's like five bedrooms. He's like, they're just gonna come and knock it out. I was like, why? Like, what? How's this work? And he's like, you just say thank you at the end of it. And so we worked all that out. I was very thankful. And I saw him today, and I was like, dude, I'm humbled by your generosity. I'm like, it's like, this weekend, instead of finishing one bedroom, I'm gonna clear out the all five bedrooms and let these guys go to town. Then it'd be like two weeks, and we have all. All five bedrooms tiled versus.
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This is a. This is where
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at? At mine in Miami's house.
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Oh, okay.
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Oh. So basically, we've ripped out all the carpet, and all the rooms are just bare concrete. You know, kind of like how your mom did for a while.
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Yeah.
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And it's. It's been like that ever since I've known her. And we've only ripped out more carpet instead of doing anything. So I just started tiling one of the rooms, but it's taking me like five weeks, because like weekends, if we're not seeing her son or having obligations of weddings and stuff, and Monday are the only days I get to work on the room just because all the other days have things after work. And so it's taken me like five weeks and I'm only like 90% done. So I was like, like, you know, anytime anybody asks to do something extracurricular, especially it's gonna spend money. I'm like, I got a tile that's a good out, you know, but her son's coming home for Thanksgiving and, you know, I still have 10 left to do. And some days I come home, I don't want to do nothing, you know?
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Yeah.
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How's your business going?
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It's okay. It's a little difficult right now because we're house sitting, so I just like.
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Are you not home tonight?
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No. No.
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Okay. We gotta switch to like hangouts or something. Bro, I need to see your face. If. If you're not at home and it's not reception, then. Well, you gotta.
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It might be okay. I don't know. I don't know how the WI fi is here. Let's. I'll try it. Let me see. Where's my Google Meet?
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Last couple times, I got a cool hat on. I was like, he's gonna love this. And you're like, yeah, we're just gonna phone call tonight. And I was like, all right, cool. And then on tonight, I was like, cool, same hat. And I was like, come to think of it, it's got the American flag on it. You probably won't like it.
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You hear me
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there? Yeah, hear me?
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All right, so you got a cool hat on.
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Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Look at that. It's got silk on the inside. If I had hair, that would be great.
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Okay.
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Can you tell what that is?
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Silk. Oh, yeah. All right.
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a crucifixion scene.
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It has the Bible verse right there.
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It. It's great for hair. I don't know how great it is for this.
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You know, it's got a. It's got a cool little thing on the thing.
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Is that. Is that. Is that your old group?
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What? No, no, no. But hey, dude, that's what I. That's exactly what I thought of when I saw it. I was like, oh, my gosh. I was like. But we spelled ours and episodes so everybody said it.
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You still know that guy?
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No, no, no. We pretty much stopped talking. There was like a. Like when. When the whole Assistant pastor thing happened. We, like, had a fallout with our whole system. Like, like, even Rock stopped talking to me. It was, it was just weird, bro. It was a weird situation.
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Yeah. Yeah. Well, the reception seems pretty fine here. Yeah, I, we've been here for over a week now and I'm running back and forth like, we're only in rsm, so, like, we're close enough where, like, if I need something, I just run over to the house and get it. But it's like, you know, watching the kid and we've been trying to potty train and all that. It's just like there's been several days in a row, like, not in a row, but like several days since I've been here where it's like I just don't have time to do anything that I want to do. So I haven't made much progress. But I did look into the glass jars. Actually, actually, I shouldn't say that. I did have a meeting with a business owner to pick his brain about some stuff. So I have done something productive. But I looked into glass jars. Guess how much more per unit I've got to spend for amber glass jars
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per unit? I'd say a dollar twenty.
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How much more I have to spend?
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Yeah, dollar twenty per unit.
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Nine cents.
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There. There's 76 cents for a jar and I'm paying 67 cents for a tin can.
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Yeah, but, but I did look into. Why does no one do this? Chatgpt said damage. It's pretty hard to ship glass and guarantee that it's going to make it there in one piece. And it also weighs more, so it can be more cost prohibitive to ship. But I feel like if I'm only sending one or two items, it's not going to matter.
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I feel like, I feel like, honestly, you start running this on Instagram, like, these other guys are like, oh, you know, look at this. They had they. Dude, pin rose. Everybody got me on Instagram, bro. Like, I, I, I bought Hype, I bought the Rise. I bought, you know, I bought the fucking she legit. You know what I mean? And it's all these people just kind of pushing it. And those guys that sell the hot sauce and they're showing you how they package it and they're like, hey, like, it's just me and my dad and they're putting the labels on, dude. I think that is way doable, dude, because you guys, you guys are getting them and putting them in, you know, envelopes that are protected bubble wrapped. Envelopes and send them out.
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A little. Our little boxes.
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I don't know if it's still this way, but it used to be that if you want to do the thing where you're like on your reel and it's like swipe up to buy or. Or click here to buy. You used to only be able to do that if you had like 15,000 followers or something like that.
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That might be the case.
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Yeah. Cuz I. I still can't do it like on my profile and my profile is set as a business account so I'm guessing that's still the case. But I haven't looked into that. And you years
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that might be the case. But you just gotta keep. You just gotta keep promoting, dude. Keep promoting. Send it out. Tell people to do. Tell like everybody that you're giving testers to to just do a. A video that you could post on yours or.
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Have them post a video on theirs giving a review. And so I think that is going to be awesome. Let me tell you. I bought Pimrose. Pimp Penrose. It's that light.
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That's like cologne scented body butter. So basically a lotion that smells is supposed to last like all day and they smell just like the designer brands. So I bought those when they came. They were all in plastic tub. Like it look like the. What was that glass? You called it the tinted glass with amber glass.
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Yeah. I feel like for products specifically like the packaging is a huge part of what people are buying. And like, you know, if someone buys your CD and it comes like wrapped in a thing that they didn't expect it to come wrapped in like that's not the same thing, you know. But like a product like that like really needs to come exactly how it looks, you know.
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Yeah. But I would even argue even the cd.
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if the CD is the correct C. Well, I listen to CDs.
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Yeah. I'm just saying like if it came like in a shrink wrap you weren't expecting or something.
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Or like Blue Letter Bible used To give out their. Their shit. Mm. Firefighters for Christ. Or something like that.
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That's. That's kind of the standard now.
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Like, pretty much all CDs I buy now are not in the jewel cases. It's definitely cheaper. I know that.
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I know that because I made a hundred units.
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But you don't get the book spine. You know what I'm saying?
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Yeah. So you know what sucks? My. My CD had a spot for it. Like, there is. Like, it's cardboard, but there is a spine. And I don't. I don't remember if I left it off for cost or if I just didn't have the option with my printer, but they came with no. Nothing on the spine. And that drives me. Yeah, but
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that's fine, though, because you can still see it. It's when they're in the. The cardboard envelopes. Like, not even cardboard, but those, like, paper envelopes. You don't even see it. Like, it's not even in your collection, really, because it's. It's. Unless you, like, know where it's at, you. You eventually forget about it. I have pamphlets like that that sit within my books, and because they don't have a fucking spine, like, I gotta take out like, five, six, seven books before I find it.
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They were pamphlets from TQ and the Belly God.
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Yeah, I got some good pamphlets at a couple of conferences. I got, like, a really good pamphlet on, like, Limited Atonement and just a couple of really good ones that I think about sometimes. And I think, like, where are those things? Like, I know they were in my books, like, all my bookcases, but I couldn't tell you where they ended up. Hopefully just in all the boxes I packed up. Hopefully they didn't get tossed somehow.
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Speaking of, I'm in the process of moving here.
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Yeah. So what's. Where we at with that? What's going on?
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If I bring it over, it just stays here.
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But, like, what's up with your lease and stuff?
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Well, they're not going to allow me. They're not going to give me a month free. Like, they offer online to new residents, even though they know me and they know I'm very helpful, they'd rather gamble that with somebody. They have no reputation, with no relationship. So the office was like, we really want to do it for you. But the main, like, the. Their headquarters was like, no, that's only for new residents. And I was like, all Right off.
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So what, is the month free? Like your first month or.
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I don't get it. I'm a resident. I'm not.
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Well, no. So, like, we need to move because I'm moving in here. Number three and her boyfriend are going to downsize. So they were gonna move into like a two bedroom in the same complex, but just across the sidewalk. And I went in and I was like, oh, this is the situation. We want to downsize. We don't have the need for three bedrooms. They're like, all right, cool. Here's some available units. Well, they were all opening up in like October and November, but they all had first month free. So I was like, hey, that works out because I could sign that lease and instead of paying two rents, I'll have one month free. And I could take that month. We could all take that month and move their sluff stuff over there slowly, you know? I mean, like,
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so. And then the guy was like, yeah, yeah, that works. And I'm like, that. So that. That's. I can do that. He was like, yeah. I was like, all right, let me know for certain before I lock in, because I'm not gonna lock in. And you guys are like, well. And so he came back and he was like, no, they. They won't do that, but we could take $250 off. And I'm like, you suck my dick. That's what you do. Because. And I did. I was like, look at my track record. I've been here for like two and a half years. Not one like scar on my record. I've helped everybody. Even your, like your management from other property sites that moved in here. I didn't know it was them, but I still helped them carry up a mattress. And I was like. So I said, I'm sorry, you know, I'm like, I'm not trying to be a dick, but like, I'm a little like, I just feel like this is kind of like a fu. For being a good resident. And I was like, well, here's the situation. I was like, you guys can either honor it or I'll just give my 60 day. Because it's, It's. It's gonna cost you guys more money with two empty apartments, two empty units than one. And I'm not gonna do you the favor by playing into that moving over there. And you guys only still have one unit to fulfill. No, I'm moving you have another. You have two empty units. I heard one rent is better than no rents.
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So what did they say?
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They said, yeah, we're really sorry. I said, cool, here's my 60 day.
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We're. We were talking about that tonight. We gotta talk about that this weekend. Now, I, you know, you tell them, like, hey, you know, supposedly his money is tied up in, like, his second and third business endeavor. And so I'm like, that's fine. Like, you can't. Your. Your credit's kind of all shot. Your DTI basically is all shot. So I'll put it in my name, say I'm moving there, and then we will go into. Me and you will go into an agreement. And he was like, all right, cool. And I was like, all right, well, now that we're doing this with the apartment, you guys need to start looking. Like, I'm not going to do that for you. You guys gotta start looking. Okay. Yeah, for sure, for sure. So then they're like, hey, we're just thinking about, like, staying in this apartment. I was like, whoa. First of all, the principle of it. We're not staying in that apartment.
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Yeah, right. There's honor on the line now.
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I was like, there's no way we're staying. I was like, I just went in there and gave them, like, the you, now we're gonna stay. So. So then I was like, this is. Hey, you guys. Like, you guys are adults, but now you gotta start acting like adults and you gotta start getting online. You gotta start looking at place. You gotta start calling around. I said, not just for you guys, but for me. I need to make certain decisions and I need to do certain things that are contingent on what you guys are doing. And she was like, no, I totally understand. I said, okay. She's like, I plan to do xyz. Would you mind going with me on these walks? I'm like, that's fine. So that's what we're doing. So
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you're gonna. You
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had a story.
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Hold on. You're gonna do that while you're remodeling the. The other house?
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Yeah, but here's the thing. Like, once we get the tile in, I'm gonna spend a couple days doing the baseboard, and then we can literally paint a room in a weekend.
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And so we're gonna have chaos for a little bit, but all we plan to do is put everything. Keep, you know, like, put the bare minimum in the rooms for people to live in. Pack the other rooms with everything else. And then as we knock out, like, painting the wall in number four's room, then we'll start setting up her room. And then, you know, if her son's room's empty, well, we'll put all the stuff in the non living rooms into his room while we redo those ones. And at that point, it's just changing out, like, fans and painting walls.
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So, yeah, it'd be a little bit of a. Of a. Of a hectic situation for a little bit.
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she, like, doesn't want to go. She can't stand big country. I can't say she can't stand her, but, like, when I talk,
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Yeah, I'm like, hey, so, you know, we're on our way to her, her football practice. I'm like, hey, let's put on some let's Get Hype music. You know, like, let's. Let's do this. Like, what. What kind of music you want? And I usually let her listen to whatever she wants in the car anyways. Not what she wants, but I let her listen to her music. And so we're driving, she puts on some group called Cat's Eye, and she like some Bel Air song. And. And I'm like, hey, does. Does your mom, like, let you, like, where do you listen to this? Does your mom listen to this? She's like, no. I was like, does your mom, like, let you. Do you play this in your mom's car? And she's like, no. Every time I ask, she says, next time, but next time never comes. And she goes. She goes, I've only got to listen to one of my songs once. And it was on the way to California, and she was like. I said, oh. I said, do you like. Like, do you like being at. At your mom's? And she's like, not really. She's kind of rude.
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Rude. Rude is just such a funny word for a kid to use. She's a little uncouth, dad.
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Big country is big country for a reason. I mean, like, we were talking the other day, and she was just like, I want to throw my phone. And I'm like, for what? She's like, I can't tell you why. I. That's part of my. What I'm missing from, according to my therapist. And I'm like, okay. And then she's like, you know, I was like, so, do you want to meet her? You know, you said you wanted to. Like, you know, we're moving in with her. And she's like, I've been meeting girls for 20 years. And, you know, I was like, yeah, but we're probably gonna get married. Like, you know, I went to a lot of therapy after we separated. That doesn't change. You're not. You're still the same guy. And why does marriage matter to you now? Didn't matter when we were married. And I was like, all right, well, I'll let you go. I hope you have a good day.
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Oh, man. There's no. No reaction that a person like that hates more than just indifference. It's like everything she said was trying to bait you into a thing. You know, it's just. Well, I can't even tell you. I can't even tell you. All she wants is, no, tell me. Come on, what's. What is this? Tell me.
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I mean, she goes into, like, this whole thing where she's like, now, mind you, she called me and I. I think we talked about this, where she's like, I think you should, like, after 20 years, I hope you have enough respect for me to. Introduced me to.
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Yeah. And so, like, I'm thinking she. She had called me and said, like, number four didn't like being in my house. And I'm like, what? And. Or, you know, something, like, she doesn't ever see me or something, and she wanted to come over early. And I'm like, okay. I was like, well, maybe I'm trying to, like, be nice. And I'm like, maybe it's because, like, if you had a. Like, if you lived with your boyfriend or if your boyfriend was always over, she's like, you. He's over every weekend. Every week she's home, and I'm at his house. Every week she's not. And I'm like, oh, oh, okay. Like, I, I. I don't know. I don't care. But then I start thinking, weren't you the one that was, like, someone sleeping 20ft away from my child? I'd want to meet them. I'd introduce you to. To someone that was sleeping 20ft away from her.
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Yeah, she. Someone had said it, I think. She didn't tell me, like, she did, but she told me, like, at, like a. Oh, wait, hold on. I think that's how I found out was. Was in that call. So I actually found out. I Don't know if it was that call or if she said it some. Oh, that's when she said it. She had kept. You know, I was trying to be respectful, so I brought it up, like, hey, like, it was after one of number four's football practice, and I was like, hey, you know, if you want. I don't know how you want to meet Miami, but, like, you know, she's like, oh, you just bring it, you know, I was like. I was like, but if she would, she might want to come watch number four play. And she was like, oh, yeah, I could bring my boyfriend. We could just have, like. We just have like a. Like a big family, right? I'm like,
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can I just. Can I. It is different, dude. I know you know this, but, like, you having. I mean, even just a random chick. Let's just even say it's a random chick. That is completely different than a male who's going to be sleeping under the same roof with your daughter. Like, that's. That's fucking nuts. Even just hanging around.
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Part of me wants to meet him and be like, dude, this whole time I thought you were going to be her old boyfriend, Uncle Buddy. And I only want to say that because I'm sure he's met Buddy, and to know that they hooked up, it's gonna cause some problems.
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How bad does Buddy feel that he still couldn't seal the deal?
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I don't know, dude. And I don't know what to believe, but my mom said he had stopped by and she heard him knock on the door, and she said, like, oh, come in, or whatever. And he came in, she goes, oh, I thought you were pj. And he was like, oh, why, are you expecting him? And she was like, no, I just thought you were himself. And then he was. Man, I really miss my relationship with him. Like, I really miss him. Like, I made such a dumb decision. How much is that is true? I don't know. I mean, she was like, you know, I went in to tell him, like, well, you know, you can't be your best friend's wife and then dating her afterwards and, like. And think that best friend's going to want to hang out with you anymore.
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shitty friend, well, you're not going to have any friends. And I was like, did you say that, though?
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Do you have a reason to doubt your mom?
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Oh, okay. I didn't know it was. I didn't know it was that Simple. Yeah. She's a fucking liar. Oh. Oh, okay.
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So I don't know what is true. I don't know what it's not. I don't know if she says that to try and, you know, get me to reach out to him, but it ain't happening, player. Ain't happening. I don't have a need for it.
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Tell you a real quick story that, you know, I. I don't. I. It's just the mom thing reminded me of this. So when we were in Oklahoma and we were moving, my. My parents came out for a while and they were pretending to help us move. And my mom was texting my sister about something, and for some reason, she gave me her phone with the text messages to my sister open. And, you know, if you hit the top of the screen on the iPhone, it goes, like, all the way to the oldest messages that are loaded and then, like, loads older ones. And I accidentally hit the top of the screen, and it went. It went to the top of the text messages to my. To my sister. And there's a picture of my living room that she sent my sister. And I looked at it for a second or two. I didn't see any text messages around it. I just saw that it was a picture of my living room. And my mom freaks out, and she rips the phone out of my hands. It just screams no. And I was like, okay. So, you know, again, I'm just like, you know, it's better not to know, like, whatever the fuck that's about. I'm sure they're talking shit on my wife or they're, you know, they're making fun of something. Like, you know, I don't want to know. So my buddy comes over to help me take the TV off of the. The wall mount because I didn't think that I could lift it on my own at that height. So he comes over to help me, and everyone clears out of the house to, you know, go back to the hotel or go get dinner or whatever. And he's looking directly at where that picture was taken. And he goes, I love how there's Magnum condoms just visible in a plastic box right there. And I look at the plastic box, and I'm like, oh, yeah, they're smushed up against the side of the plastic box that you can see through. And I was like, oh, that's what they were talking about in the message decisions this whole time. I thought the worst. I thought, like, you know, they're They're. You know, she took like a picture of my wife or something and. And was making fun of her or something, you know,
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like, look how clean this keeps her house.
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Honestly, it would probably be something like that. It'd probably be like, look how ridiculously OCD she is about this or that or whatever. She's not OCD enough cuz she shoved condoms into the side of a plastic box.
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Anyway, it's not a bad thing though. At least they were magnums. Dude, are you embellishing?
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No, I'm not, dude. We.
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You're. You're hung like that, huh? You're stacking it,
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only hard. I'm nothing to write home about otherwise.
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I mean, like. But it makes sense with your height and, you know, that's good for
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you, bro. So. Gross thing. If you want to know a gross thing, we.
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But I want to ask you a question.
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Have you ever noticed the serial numbers on those Magnum condoms?
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You probably don't roll them up that high. Okay. Go on.
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That was hilarious. You got me. That was. That was cheap, but that got me,
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dude. It's a classic. My mom told me that when I was like, I don't know, seven or eight. Bro, I
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never heard that. I never heard that. Oh,
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dude, I keep that one in the pocket, dude. I don't just throw it out all the time. All week.
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That's funny. So. So the gross thing is my wife and I have only ever used condoms with each other.
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That's weird.
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Prior to our relationship, neither of us had ever used a condom, so she had to. She had to go off her birth control because she had a surgery for endometriosis and they had to put her on a medication for that, that she couldn't be on birth control. So she goes off birth control and we decide we're gonna. We're gonna try condoms. So we just got regular condoms and I would. I couldn't fit in them and like, I shoved myself into it. Dude, is like.
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You look like.
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It was like a. It was like a. A balloon animal filled with concrete. Yeah,
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You probably don't roll them down that far, huh? That was good.
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There's a couple. I got a couple. I got a couple. Dude.
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Hit me with another one.
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No, I mean, like, they're all
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like, save
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them. They're all. They're setups. You know that. Like, I don't know them by hand, by. By heart until someone triggers that. Like, if you would ask me last week, like, hey, tell me a condom joke or something, I'VE been like, ah, if I know, man.
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But then when it hits, it's like, oh, yeah. I remember mom used to say that people always laugh,
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Okay, so there's a boyfriend. You haven't met the boyfriend.
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Yeah. And dude, honestly, I don't really give two shits. Like, I told her when she was like, I should meet your girlfriend, said, look, my number one concern are my daughters. Your number one concern is our daughters. I'm pretty sure you're not gonna have some dickhead around them. You could probably bet your sweet ass I'm not gonna have some bitch around them. So I trust your. Your judgment, you know, Like, I told her, I said, I only got eight more years with you. And she was like, now you don't need the rest of your life. I was like, I don't. She's like, you, you. And you
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say it back in her voice.
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You number one, are you guys still talk? I was like, yeah, all the time. Number one's mom. You and number one's mom talk. All still talk. I like, yeah. In fact, they come out, we go on the salt river together, we hang out. Like, they're good. I was like, number one's mom's boy or husband does my taxes. Like, yeah.
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She's just like, well, see, I'm gonna be in your life for the rest of your life. And I was like,
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you don't do taxes.
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Yeah, like, nah, probably not. She was like, what about when we have grandkids and there's holidays? And I was like, ah, you're probably right. I guess so. But. All right, well,
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come to it.
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Yeah, you know, I'll find a workaround. I'm not doing that.
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You could just, you know, switch off holidays.
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Yeah, you know, I'm down for that too, dude. Right now we do, like, the day with. When it's Christmas, because Christmas kind of two days you got even. And, you know, the other day.
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And the main day, I guess. And so you kind of. Same with New Year's, you know, you kind of get the. The best of coper, you know, Best of both worlds, so. But I have a question, man. I've been sharing. Pardon my sharing, but I. I was sharing Miami, your situation. She was just like, something ain't right. I was like, no, like, she can't really be touched by people because hurts her skin. That ain't right. I was like, no, it's. It's real. It's real. He was telling me it's like a real thing. She's like, nah, I was like, babe, she. She was. She hang out a lot of her co workers. I was like, babe, she's a barista. Okay? She does.
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She's a manager, I'll have you know.
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I was like, she does. She does have. She was a teacher. She was a nanny. She has a degree. Like, but, you know, right now she's, you know, she's there with the in laws, and she's, you know, working at a. A chain. And she was like, no, it hurts when he touches her. I was like, yeah, that's what he said. She was like, no, no. What? What is it? What is it? I was like, oh, I don't know. I'll have to ask him. Like, you guys should talk about that on your podcast. What's going on in his marriage. No, you're probably right. You know what, babe? I'm gonna put a pin in that. I'm gonna bring it back up on podcast night.
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Yeah, you're like, go listen to episode 53, episode 25, episode 19. We've covered that a lot. It's. It's fibromyalgia.
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Fibromyalgia. Doubt I'll remember that. I'm just gonna tell people. Yeah, I don't know. She just tells them, don't touch me.
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much. Okay. Okay.
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So you had a story that you wanted to tell me. You were like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna tell you this story, and it's really good. And
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I. I don't know if it's really good. I think it's up your alley for, you know, analyzing people situation.
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My alley. There's not much that's not up my alley. Let's say that there's not much that's not up my alley. Yeah.
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So I met with a friend of mine who has actually, you know, I think
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what she looked like. I
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don't want to. I don't want to tell you yet.
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There's a surprise coming. So this guy
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asked about me. Oh, it's a guy.
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It's a guy. Yeah. Why did you just assume it was a woman? So he's. He's done pretty well the last couple years. He started a business, and, you know, he's done a couple things. He made some really good crypto trades that worked out for him. So I said, hey, I want to take you out to coffee. Let me pick your brain about specifically manufacturing products, because this is what I'm doing. And I just want to know, like, what would you have me avoid? What. What advice would you give me? The thing is that the business is liquidating. So I specifically wanted to know, like, hey, what can I learn from you as far as what not to do with, with the situation? You know, and I'm, I'm really not there yet on scale, but I just wanted to get an idea of, you know, because I, I've worked with him. I wrote some copy for the business about a year ago. So I just knew from, from those meetings that he's, you know, got a pretty good mind for marketing and stuff. And he did give me some pretty good advice on the marketing angle when we talked. But he ended up bringing up, before we kind of got into it, that his wife moved out. And I was like, what, like, what happened all of a sudden? And he's like, well, you know, she's a nurse. She's been working nights for like two years. So she sleeps, you know, like four hours a night. And she's all, you know, stressed out. She's sleep deprived. And with the business failing and, you know, he basically had a falling out with his business partner and they just could not agree on anything. So they decided to part ways. And he briefly was trying to buy the business and run it himself, which I think would have been great because he did all of the legwork for the company in the first place. But they, they couldn't agree to terms and now they're trying to liquidate and they still can't agree to terms and it's just a whole big mess. But with all of that going on with the business and he hasn't had a normal job, quote unquote, for a couple of years now. He, he has made, I think he said, 60 grand in the last year or two selling real estate, and he made a sizable amount of money trading crypto. So he said, I've actually made more than what I sunk into the company just doing those things. So it's not like I've been like a net, you know, loss on our finances the last couple years. Like I, you know, and, and the company actually did okay for a minute. So he basically said, like, she was just fed up with me not having a job and the business failing and all this stuff. So she's moved out and like, she hasn't even told him, like, where she's living. Like she got an apartment, but she hasn't given him the address. So, like, his kids just leave with her for half the week and he doesn't even know where they are. It's a really up situation. And so he basically told me the advice I would give you like, like, we're in very similar situations, you know, like, we're living with
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our. Except for you don't trade crypto and you don't do real estate on the side.
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Yes, we're. Thanks. So we're living. We're living. We're living with our families. We've got kids. We're trying to start businesses. We don't have normal jobs, you know, so it's like, it's a pretty similar situation that we find ourselves in. And so he's trying to get his job back with a union that he was working for or with, however you say that a couple years ago. And he basically told me, like, the advice I would give you on a personal level, like, for the good of your marriage, is get yourself a normal job while you're trying to do this and don't let the situation get to where I've gotten. So when you and I were first talking, you know, we were kind of talking about me finding a job. And then when I mentioned starting a business, we kind of shifted to that. I just want to know logistically and kind of given where we're at with the process, what do you think about that proposal? Do you think it's worth.
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I think that's the wisest decision. The. The wisest. I think a lot of what's going on in your marriage has a lot to do with her view of how you are currently in the situation and responding to it.
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Nah, that's ridiculous because it's been like this the whole time we've been married. But I get what you're saying. I. I don't think it's helping.
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Not getting better. Yeah. Not helping it. But if you were to. If you were to, you know, this is, this is where. This is where it excites me. And it doesn't excite me like in the midst of it, where you're at doesn't excite me, but at the other end of it, it does excite me. And at the thought of it, sometimes it excites me. It's. We do hard. We do this shit that nobody else is gonna put the work in to do. You're the cat's meow. You don't settle and you're settling. That's what I was trying to tell you, like when we first started this two week thing. I feel like you're content with settling right now. And I think, I think, you know, like she, she, one, senses that, but two, that's. That's who you could be, but that's not who you Are so as. As fathers. And this is where I took great pride for years. And this is also where I have great regret for not being able to do it with number one is. Is we get to go to work to provide. We get to come home. We get to be dad. That's the easy part. But we also gotta be husband, and then we gotta find some healthy space. This is what most men don't do. I didn't do it. A healthy space for us where we can go. And I. And. And I know that's why Miami's giving me this. This extra room as my office, because she's like, look, like you need your space to get away and go do your stuff. If you want to write, if you want to, you know, paint, do a podcast, whatever. Like, you need your. Your. Your guy space. I think. I think it's. It's draining at times to do the work and then come home, have to do homework with your kids or take them to football practice. And then as well, like, you know, I. I cook most of the time for. If we cook. And so, you know, if. If she's not like, hey, let's order out. I'm usually trying to cook up something, especially if number four is not here, because my week's not as busy after hours, but it's draining. And then there's little windows where you get to sit down and journal, sit down and write a letter. I have, like, six people I want to write, and I've only been able to knock out one. I'm tiling a room. I was, you know, up to this. To this point. It's draining, dude. But at the end of the day, like, I just. I just want to be. I just. I just want to be the best that I could be. But the best that I could be is sometimes driven by being able to say, I'll outwork you. That's it. That's it. Like, me and Stretch Marks went to the gym once, and I think I talked about this when it. When it. When it actually happened, and he was like, you know, Stretch Marks, let me paint a picture. Stretch Marks looks like he could be an athlete. He has a really good physique, really good workout ethic. Like, goes to the gym every day, runs even. No matter what the weather's like, he'll put on a weighted vest and run. I mean, the guy is just like, it's. It's like his fix. And not to mention he's like 6:2 or something like that. And so he's like, let's go over and flip this tire. Come on. We're doing all these workouts together. He wants to end the day flipping a tire. It's half a tire. It's bolted to the ground. It's on a swivel. So all you got to do is lift up and just toss it up and it rotates. And so he gets on one side and on one side and it's. We're gonna go until. Until you can't. No more. First person that stops, that's when we'll stop some. All right, whatever. So we're flipping it, and I just keep flipping it with him, Flipping it with him. And he's like. He's like, showing fatigue. So I'm like, all right, well, now I cannot show fatigue. So I just keep going. And then he's like, oh, my gosh. Come on, dude. But I'm not going to show him that I'm heavy breathing inside. I'm freaking dying. No, dude. No, dude. I. He stopped. He fell on the ground. He stopped. I went over to his side, flipped it, went back to my side, flipped it. Went over to his side, flipped it. It was. It. It's like, look, dude, there's gonna be hard things in life. Endure. It's a struggle, but just endure. Just. And it. But I. Because I work with them, I have. I have the. The blessing of working with them. I get to press him like that at work. Like, that's what manhood is. There's hard stuff. There's hard stuff. You just gotta know how to maneuver it. And you got not be afraid to just say, all right, I'm gonna go get a job. I'm still going to work on this on the side. Because it is a passion of mine now. It's not just a hobby. It's a passion of mine I actually have. I know this is a product I can push. I know it's a product that changed my life. I'm going to invest in that. So you'll have time for that. And this last week is kind of going to be what it's like when you have a real job. You're not going to have a lot of time to yourself, except for maybe one day a week or one day every two weeks. Best for you to find, though. But I know you can do it. You just. You just see, like, I get your view on things, but you. You have a pretty harsh view. Like, you're kind of an anarchist.
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Yeah. You're like, I'm not give. Like, you do have a. A very good point. I'M not going to work a job that when I die, nothing comes from it like I'm forgotten. I want to do something that is one me and two is passive income that will last forever. So I get that and I love that. But your friend is a great example of what happens if your whole team's not on board with the that.
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Yeah. And like, I'm not opposed to getting a job. Like, I just, that whole thing I said was just about like ultimately what I want to do in life. I do not want to retire at 67, punching out for the last time and then leaving all that behind and, and never gain from it again. You know, obviously I've, I've had, you know, I've worked most, most of my adult life now. So I, you know, I'm not opposed to it. It's just like I don't know what to do in this situation because it's like I would gladly take a cut. You know, my wife makes a little over 70 grand a year right now as a manager. I would gladly go get a job for 50 or 60 if we could just go back to me working and her staying home with the kid.
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That ain't, ain't possible no more, bro. That's not possible. It's, it's. We are in a society unless you stay living at your parents or live in a, a multi family house like you, 6,50,000, especially in California is poverty level.
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Well, what the point of what I'm saying is I want to go back to work in whatever form. I would be willing to take less money than we're currently making if I could just get back into a job and you know, maybe have the opportunity to. You're missing the point. Let me, I'm going to push through. I'm going to power through. If I had even the opportunity to make more than that, I would still rather do that. But that's not even where my wife's at. My wife is not even like concerned about taking less money in. She like, doesn't want to leave her job after all of the training she's received and everything they've invested into her. For sure she's staying in her job one way or the other. I, you know, if I go get a job, then my mom has to watch the kid. My wife does not want that. And I'm not a huge fan of it either, but I'd be willing to do that. So I'm
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not a fan of that. You
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I'm not a fan of that either. And I totally get that all I'm saying is there's probably some young woman in your church, like a teenager that's maybe 17 or 16 that wouldn't mind a little extra cash to just hang out with your kid like someone that's, you know, good hearted and pure. But, and I only say that because you never want the job you go get to just offset the sitter and you're still at like you never worked and your kids see someone else. So. But I also don't think you should settle for something less than what your wife's making. But all I'm saying is you have to, you have to move in some direction to not only the main provision is to get your family out of your, your parents house and the only way that's going to happen is if you both work, unfortunately.
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that's the shitty part about it.
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Yeah, you're right.
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I think that will change your marriage drastically. For her to be able to come home after she worked a hard day.
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It's not, but I appreciate you saying that,
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dude. So, okay, so let's jump back on that. What is up with that?
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I mean, all I can tell you is that there was a time. Now there has not been a time in our marriage where she was not working except when the baby was born and for the first like two years of her life. But there was a time when she had a job where she barely ever had to go into work and pretty much stayed home every day and watched TV and did a little bit of work and still made more money than me. I'll make that note just for anyone who thinks that the universities are good with their money. So there was that time I worked full time and I mean maybe worse. I would actually say like the intimacy and stuff might have even been worse at that time. Like when, when I've been working full time, getting promotions. We're, we're living in a three bedroom house, you know, like living a life that we couldn't have even imagined.
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where do you think no effect
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passion left. What do you think was the cat the, the catalyst for, for it leaving for the love. She
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She, I, I, oh
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no shit.
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Yeah, I told you this story on the podcast. She, I mean I literally was like, why did we just stop having sex one day? Like pretty much when we got married. And she said because I went off birth control and the hormones just weren't there anymore.
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Oh, that's right.
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Yeah. So I mean like it's just never been there.
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Hey, has she ever thought about the Pellets. Like, Miami does the pellets. Big country does the pellets. Not that I need to know that, but she was like, I'm on these pellets. I'm like, that's cool. Like, I didn't tell her Miami was first, but.
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What. What is that?
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It's. They put these hormone pellets inside your butt cheek. You'll be able to fill them. Like, I don't know how they do it, but nobody says it hurts. But anyhow, they must numb you. They put them in there, and then that's your hormones. Like, Miami can't keep her hands off of me, bro. She's dying. After, like, the first. Like, the next night when I'm like, cool. This is Relax Night. She's, like, touching. I'm like, maybe we just did last night. Like. Like when we first met. Remember when we first met? And I was like, dude, we're doing it, like, 70 times a day.
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Yes, I remember that.
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Yeah. She had to dial back the pellets because she's like, my sex drive is greater than yours. I'm trying to match your sex drive. So I had to take out pellets. Like, it's what they do to. They're basically like synthetic hormones.
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Yeah. I. I can't imagine her going with something like that. She did mention. And, I mean, this is.
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She'll have. She'll have more energy at work, and she'll be more regulated at work emotionally. Even if she is 100% regulated right now, she'll be more than 100% regulated after the hormones.
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I. I did remember her mentioning. And. And this would probably have to be. This was definitely before the baby, but she was mentioning some kind of. And wish I could remember what it was, but it was, like, some medication for, like, one of her million ailments that she has. And she did, like, mention. And it's also supposed to, like, raise your sex drive. And so I was like, okay, interesting. So, like, you see that as a deficit. Like, you do see that as a problem, but it's almost like there's nothing I can do about it. Like, I need a pill, you know? And then she never. You know, we never talked about it again. And she didn't end up going on it, but. Or she couldn't get it. I don't know. I don't even remember what it was. But so, you know, she's mentioned that
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you block that out, huh? You, like, you take it. You just stuff it down. You're like, I. I don't remember. I didn't like the answer?
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No. I mean, honestly, dude, there's been 25, 30 conversations about medications like that over the years where it's like, I think I have this. I think I should go on this. I think I have this now. I think I should. So, you know, it's all, it's all white noise. I don't remember
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you guys are having these conversations though. That's good. Like, at least you're like,
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four and a half years ago. Sure.
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Yeah. But I mean like, well, I mean like, you know, I don't know, man. Maybe it's not a bad thing to bring it up again. Dude, I don't really see this. I mean, that explains a lot of the reason why she even looks at you the way she does. Like why she kind of just comes in so like, ah, well, this ain't sanitary. All right, well, peace out. You know, is, you know, just. She's probably drained, dude. Like, ah, do some research on the pellets and, and look at the pros and cons before you feed her this.
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Okay?
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I don't have to deal with that because my chick was already on before I got home. You know what I'm saying?
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Yeah.
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So,
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yeah, might be worth, might be worth checking out. I mean,
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but it might help her like even excel more at work because if she comes home and she's kind of like, she's drained anyways, I think just from not having like, just from being emotionally unregulated all day, like the fight against some of your urges, the constant thinking as a manager she might come home, just be like, fuck, bro. But I think all that would change if she had some hormones. I'm not pro hormones. I'm just saying I see the effect of these women around me and they're all saying they got these pellets in their ass.
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Yeah, I mean, I'm not, I'm not really in favor of like, you know, you know, like Ozempic, you know, just like putting something in your body that's not meant to be there to get, you know, a desired result. But at the same time, if you're £600, you're not gonna lose that going for a brisk walk every night after dinner, you know what I mean? So like, if your life's on the line, maybe take the Ozempic, like the side effects there might not be worse, you know, so at the same time, like, she is just so drained and so, you know, in pain and so abnormal in terms of sex drive and emotion and all that. Maybe you know, maybe that would be worth checking out.
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It might, you know, I'm telling you, dude, like, like, sex drive around here is not something that is running out. I mean, like, I'm over here, like, now I'm looking at Cialis and shit, you know, I mean, because I'm like, I. I want to be able to keep up. When she's ready, like,
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yeah.
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I get home and I'm like, I'm tired. And I was talking to a buddy of mine and he was like, oh, yeah, he's like 50. And he was like, yeah, I. I do 5 milligrams. It's real light. He's like, but it just keeps me ready. When she's ready. He's like, it's. I. I don't really. Like, it's not strong. I'm not just walking around. He's like, it's just. He was in. It's nice to just be a little more saluting when you're, when you're, when you're doing it, because,
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yeah,
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I'll salute for a good minute. But then, like, my dude's like, all right, y', all, it's bedtime. Like, I'm gonna. I'm gonna go relax for a little bit. Like, I've been standing tall all day. And then he'll go relax for a little bit. I'm like, all right, let's take a 10 minute break. Let's just get, like, let me get my breath and. Because I get my head. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'll be in there just. And. And she's just going to town, you know? I mean, like, as far as, like, what she's feeling. And then I am so in. Now I'm engaged with her sound. And what I'm feeling inside that cave where I'm like, oh, that's. That's. That's. That's the area right there. And then I lose it because I'm so. I'm not even thinking, this is nice anymore. I'm just like, yep, okay, now do a little twist. Do a little twist. Yeah, there it is. Oh. You know what I mean? Like, live this way. And then all of a sudden it's like, okay, here. Oh, I'm. I'm done. I'm done. And then my mind's thinking about. I'm done. Oh, my gosh. Like, it's getting small. Holy. What's going on? And I'm like, give me two minutes, man. And then I come back. But when I take that little royal honey shoe, I'm like, please just lay down. Go to sleep tonight. Please, please, please. Like, you're. You're throbbing, bro. Come on.
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I. I actually used to think that, like, if you took Viagra, you would just get a boner automatically.
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I did too. That's why I didn't. That's why I never around with it.
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Yeah, I. I was like, well into my 20s when I learned that it just makes it, like, easier if you do get aroused.
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Yeah. So my uncles would always give me a Viagra when we would do coke. And I'm like, yeah, I'm good on the Viagra because I thought the same thing. Like, oh, I'm just gonna be walking around with hard on.
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Yeah.
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Well, then one night. One night I did enough coke that, like, I was up for three days, dude. I went to work on day two. I called in on day one, went to work on day two. They were like, what is going on with you? I was like, what do you mean? They're like, you. You look like. Like you're on something. I was like, told you I've been sick. Like, I'm sick. And they're like, yeah, go home. So I took day three off. I didn't sleep any of those days. And I had women come over and we'd mess around and I couldn't get hard. That's when I realized this is why they take the Viagra, because coke makes you soft. Good luck keeping a heart on with some after you get some booger sugar. You know what I'm saying?
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Another in a long list of reasons to avoid the booger sugar. I remember, I
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don't mess around with it, dude.
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We were talking about my dad doing drugs on his mail route. And it's literally like lunchtime. It's just like my parents and I at a restaurant eating lunch, and they're just having this conversation about, like, oh, yeah. And I would get this stuff from that guy. You know, sometimes I take it right there, like on the job so I could work better or whatever. And then he just. He just hits us with this. He's just. One time someone gave me a Viagra and I was like, well, you know, what the fuck? Like, I'll take pretty much anything. So I took it. I took it on my mail route, and my mom is just like, why would you take. Take it while you're working? And he was like, I mean, so what? I've got a boner at work for eight hours. Like, what does it matter? She goes, oh, yeah? Why the fuck would you ever bring it home and use it at home. And then I said, check, please, because, you know, what else are you gonna end on?
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Dude, Your dad is hilarious, bro. Because he used to tell me those stories. He'd be like, oh, yeah, Well, I have this rotten. You know, sometimes this guy just comes on. He's like, hey, let me do something. That's exactly how he talks. He's like, sure, why not? You know, he's so nonchalant about it, but then he gets, like, his, like, little mischievous kind of, like, tone where he, like, leans into you. You know what I mean? And he's like, yeah. So, like, this. This one guy, he was giving, you know, and he starts, like. And he starts telling you real low, and you're like, this guy. And it's off the wall that you're like, you're. You're like, either. You're either a really good comedian or something tells me you did this.
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I. You know, I. I think he's got some wild stories, but I think he embellishes a lot for a joke.
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Yeah, but
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I think if. I think if it's. I think if it's drugs, you can pretty much take it to the bank. I think. I think those stories are real.
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Yeah. Let me tell you. Let me ask you. Let me. Let me tell you this, man. So we go to the wedding. The. The wedding. And in between the reception, we stop off at the only place open at this time on a Saturday, which was some dive bar. We walk in, there's two people. By time we left, there was maybe six. And. And my boss, who shall rename remain nameless. He. He's. We're playing pool, and he looks over and he goes, we're talking about darts. And he goes, oh, yeah. Darts are, like. Once you, like, you just pick them up and, like, you know, like, you know what to do with them. And I'm like, not necessarily. I was like, I know a lot of people that pick up darts and they throw them right at the wall. I was like, it's like when you pick up darts and you train properly. You train enough. And he was like, yeah, exactly. And he goes, you see that guy over there by the door? He goes. He goes, from the holster, I could grab and pop two in him. Just any. Like, he. He started, like, mimicking it, you know, like, just, papa, Papa. And I was like, I bet you could. He was like, oh, yeah. And all of a sudden, like, I saw him in a different light, and. And I looked at him and I was like, something tells me when you were in the military, like, you always tell me that PDF has, like, more stories than you. Worse stories than you. And he's never served. He just built stuff over in Afghanistan. But you served and built stuff in Afghanistan. I was like, so I feel like you did more in the military than you're leading on to. And he was. He. He, like, looked at me and he was just like, do you. And he, like, smiled, and I was like, yeah, I actually do. And so then, like, today we're talking about this. We're in our meeting fast forward. We're in our meeting today at the office, and there was some. We're talking about, like, one of these architects that keeps, like, fucking not answering his phone and fucking. Fucking up shit. And. And he goes. And we use them, like, as part of our company, like when we do a design build. And he's like. He was. Honestly, dude, he was. I could kill that. He goes. And he, like, said it like three times. Like, I could kill that. And he looks at me and he, like, looks at. At PDF and he goes, no, serious, I could kill that. And I'm like, now, mind you, I automatically go back to Saturday at the bar when he says that. And I'm like, yep, I think he could.
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Yep.
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Like, I think, you know, when they say humble is power under control, humility, I think that's what I kind of see most in how he acts. There are times where he gets, like, a little. Little arrogant, like when we talk about basketball, and he's like, oh, yeah, you know, watch, I'm on beach. You don't know, boy. But when it comes to how he engages with people, like, he will give you 30, 30 retakes before he fires you. You know, he's just not someone that's like, gonna go fire someone. You know, you can. You could mess up 30 times before he's like, hey, we gotta part ways, you know?
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Yeah.
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I don't know, man. But,
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yeah, it's. It's
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weird. I think he's killed people.
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It's. It's weird when you come across people who, like, they're never right out with it. Yeah. There was a guy at our church at Reverence that you. You may have known him, I'm sure you met him at some point, but he never talked about it at all. And he wasn't in this. In military or whatever he was doing, but multiple people told me, like, yeah, we have no idea what that guy used to do, but, like, he has killed people. He's been on, like, secret missions. Like, you know, like, he's. He's done some wild shit.
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Is his daughter a gymnut?
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I don't know. He had a. He had a big curly mustache.
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Oh, it's the curly mustache guy.
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Well, there were two and the older one was a pastor. The younger one, I mean, he was still probably in his 50s or 60s, but he. Yeah, he like invented things for medical companies. That was like what he was doing then. But he had been like. It was strongly alluded that he was in the CIA. No one ever, no one ever said it, but that was kind of the vibe that I was picking him up on. And
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yeah, we, we refer to that. It's funny because people will be like, oh, yeah, you know, like our clients, military people, and then certain three letter government agencies. Which I've said. And I've said that because you hear it so much at these, these in these client builds when they're like. And certain three letter government agencies, you're just like, why don't you. So we all kind of know what you're saying. You're making my brain do. It's simple math, but it's still having to work harder than it should right now. You know what I mean?
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Yeah. Well, it could, we
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all know what you're talking about.
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It could be the nsa, atf, FBI, they all around. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And then I, I know this one vet dude, this guy. This is kind of the other side of it where, like, it's not like fun stories. He. I've never gotten him to talk about it, but he, he signed up for the Marine Corps in July of 2001, and he was like among the first people to land in Afghanistan. And he has terrible ptsd and he won't be around kids. Like, like, he just. If you, if, if it's an event with like kids around, he is like avoiding them. He won't come around to like, you know, family members, birthday parties, stuff like. And, and someone in the family told me that like. Yeah, when they first landed in Afghanistan, they were grabbing kids off the street and using them as shields to try to get people to not shoot at them. And they shot him. It's like, fuck, dude. You just like, you grabbed a kid and someone just gunned it down, like in your arms. Like, that's fucking nuts.
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Yeah. So he was shooting the natives as the natives were holding kids.
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No, he was grabbing kids to try to not be shot by the natives and the natives still shot him.
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Oh. Oh, that's.
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Yeah. And
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why was he grabbing kids then?
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Because they're trying not to get shot. But, you know they
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didn't. What do you expect, bro? If they're shooting, Was it multiple kids, or did he, like, after the first one, be like, I shouldn't be doing this?
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I. I got the impression that that was just the operating procedure until they gained enough ground to, like, secure an area. But I don't know for sure. But, yeah, he saw a lot of kids die, let's put it that way.
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That's crazy.
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Yep.
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That's crazy. I used to have friends who. Their dad would have had ptsd, and he would wake up on the couch and just go haywire, like, jump behind it, you know, look for, like, grenades. He's like. Like total flashbacks.
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Yeah.
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But it. It wasn't. You know, it might have been like, Desert Storm time, because I think I was in, like, my. My late. No, early 20s when. When. When, like, the kids were like, dude, yeah, we gotta go. Our dad's, like, tripping out right now. Or they'd come over crying because, like, they had to leave because their dad's, like, not settling down.
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Yep. He's crazy. He's swatting at things only he can see.
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Yeah. Yeah. They'd say, like, he. He would act like he's throwing grenades and then hide behind the couch,
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dude. Yeah, that's. That's kind of a weird one. Like, my cousin was in Desert Storm. He never indicated to me that anything crazy happened over there. Kind of.
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That's why I thought this guy might have been in Vietnam. Instead.
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Maybe there
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wasn't a lot of trench warfare.
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That's. That's only like 15 years separated from Desert Storm.
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Yeah. And I never met the dad. I only heard the stories when they would come over, like,
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yeah,
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like, we had to get out of the house, you know, Like.
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Yeah.
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And I'm like, what kind of PTSD does this do have? And they were like, he is like, he woke up off the couch, like, fucking freaking out and then jumped behind the couch and was, like, acting like he was throwing grenades and he was yelling and she was like, we. We don't know how to deal with that.
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Yeah, get the. Get the net. I love how, like, the. The whole plot of Jarhead. Have you ever seen that movie?
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Yeah. Oh, yeah.
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Basically the plot is that he wanted to kill people in. In Iraq, and then, like, the whole war ended up being, like, nothing, and he never got to kill anyone.
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I'm not gonna lie, dude. I mean, like, that's when. When 9, 11 happened, like, for sure. I was like, I'm going to sign up. And my mom just begged me not To. But I was. I wanted to. Like, I. I wanted to so bad.
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Yeah, I'm glad you didn't. But, you know, it. It's interesting, I think, about that, like, how united we were as a country and how many people went to sign up. I think 9, 11. Happens today. Kids.
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We're all over that shit.
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Kids in Texas are not gonna go die because of something that happened in New York City. Not today.
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I think there's going to be a similar event. For sure. I do. I don't know where.
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I can tell you where.
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I'm not saying it's. Do we. I guess, go for it?
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It's the Citibank building in Los Angeles.
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01:37:28.000 --> 01:37:30.000
Yeah. Okay. So I heard that as well.
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Yeah,
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but I mean, like, it's that or it would. They said, like, New York. I don't think they're gonna hit New York again, though, because they said, like, three major cities. One was Los Angeles, one was New York, and I want to say the other one was Miami, but make it look like once again, that it's from some other country that Israel has an issue with.
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Yeah, I don't know, dude. I just. I don't know if they could pull it off. Like, I don't know if the. If the will is there, even if they do pull it off, but it's like, dude, I just
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think they're putting much thought into them anymore, bro.
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Well, that's the thing. Like, are they thinking about that? Are they thinking about, like, how Haywire the Charlie Kirk thing went and then thinking, like, can we actually get away with this again in. In 2026? You know? And, like, there's got to be people in those meetings saying, you can't pull this off again, dude. Like, there's gonna be a million videos from a million point of views that are gonna show what this thing actually is, you know,
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for sure. That's. That's the real thing. The real thing is when Charlie Kirk happened, they were like, oh, shit. Like, people are on to us. Like, holy fuck. Like, and they know it's us because we did the pager trick. Remember the pager trick that we were so happy about?
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Yep.
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And then we did this, and people are honest. I remember, like, week one, somebody was like, that thing's coming from the microphone. Everybody was like, not ain't no. It ain't no. Ain't coming from the microphone. That's ridiculous. All these, like, podcasters and other videos were coming on. It's not from the. And then all of a sudden, it's like, yeah, it's the microphone.
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Yeah,
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like, that dude was right from, like, week one. And you guys over here, like, nodding the microphone and. And now that we know it's the microphone, they were like, holy. Dude, he was. He was very outspoken about us. And, yeah, we did that. And dude, like, all the videos out there, the dude. We didn't kill the ring cameras in the area before we did this. No, we didn't. We ain't got that kind of. Okay. All right, let's get some. Some high school graphic designers on this. Have them have somebody run across the roof.
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Yeah,
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don't worry about shadows. Just
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make that guy skinny.
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Yeah, they see it and they're like, we forgot about shadows. We didn't. We didn't. We didn't even catch it in the review.
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Yeah.
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So it's kind of on us, you know? Like, it's. Yeah.
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Also, we forgot that he was supposed to have the gun when he jumped off the roof.
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Yeah. And so their whole thing is, I think if they hit us, the first hit has to be electronically. Has to wipe out towers.
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Now that would be smart
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to do. That's that. Look, will
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phone still work off?
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Happens. I want to cut if this happens, because, you know, they're tapping our shit by now.
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Sure,
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I want to cut. Guys, whoever's recording this, I'm cool with just a cut. Just couple meal. I know you guys got it. All right, here we go. So they're going to have to hit the electric, electrical somehow, where we don't get phones, and it might not happen for a couple days so that they could kill the batteries. So if they kill power grids, we can't charge our phones except for off the generators. That's now a very select few people really just rednecks. So don't bomb anything near redneck country. Just. Then strike. Then you strike, and you're like, then power comes back on because we can restore it after a couple months. And it's all, I don't know, Russia or Palestine or some bullshit. Mm.
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Yeah, I think. I don't even know it would be Iran. It could be Russia. I'm not even sure. Like, it's weird that I have a feeling something's coming, but I can't even tell who they're gonna pin it on because there's, like, a couple good candidates. There's a couple of things they're trying to get going right now. Turkey. Turkey's also a big one. Like, they. They've never really talked about Turkey before, but as soon as the Iran thing kicked off, they Started talking about Turkey, about how, like, turkey is going to be the next threat stuff. So it's
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like, it's. Whoever. Whoever is real is really pissed off at.
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Yeah.
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Hey, what's your take on AI? I watched this documentary and you just kind of brought up something that triggered a thought for me. What's your take on AI? What's. Where's the future of it going?
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I am pretty uncertain about that. I don't really believe in AI. There's, like, not really such thing as AI yet, and maybe it's impossible. You know, what we call AI is just basically like a really, really powerful spell check that's like predicting words and stringing sentences together. So, like, I get that it's capable of, like, replacing a lot of jobs and taking over a lot of infrastructure and stuff, but all these fears about it hacking into the nuclear weapons and stuff, I just. I don't know if any of that's possible unless it was programmed to do that and given access to that stuff stuff. And I just don't see people doing that. But that's just.
470
01:43:34.000 --> 01:46:45.000
Okay. So there's. There's two types of AI. There's the AI that you basically train. You have somebody watch it and you say, no, that was wrong. The, you know, like, picture of a dog. Here's some of the main points of a dog. Here's a picture. Yeah. Study that. Know it now, you know, and they're basically, like, guiding them. So they're dictating them in some way. Then there's AI that like, we use almost every day now. Chat, GPT, Anthro. Anthropic. Anthropic. Not anthropic. Anthropic. Claude. You know, all these different platforms. Gemini. And. And so I'm watching this documentary and this guy's like, I don't know what AI is. So he starts interviewing the experts in the field, both critics and like, the leading people, designers. And so he's talking to this, like, lead guy that's in the industry. And the lead guy, he goes, hey, I'm having a baby. Which is why I did this documentary. Would you have a baby in this current, like, weather of AI? And the guy was like, I, in another life, I'd like to have a kid. He goes, but I have engineers on staff that know that their kids, their current kids will not see high school. So any shared. He shared a couple, not him, but another guy that they were interviewing shared a story. And so anthropic. First of all, they put a code into one of the AIs that had it solving a problem and then the code was to shut it down halfway through. So the machine is running the problem, sees the code to stop, rewrites the code to keep going and solve the problem. And it does. Anthropic had a, like a beta version out and they gave it access to its, its companies, like, what is it called? Intranet. And so it gave it access to the company's Internet and it started sifting. And they did that first of all, they did that so it would learn how people talk and stuff. And it picked up in the emails that they were going to have a revision and make like a anthropic 2.0. And so what this thing did was it sifted through. It got into the emails of the lead engineer's personal emails and found out that he was having an affair and then sent him an email saying, if you do what you're going to do, I'm going to expose your affair.
471
01:46:45.000 --> 01:46:51.000
So I've heard that that's not what happened. And
472
01:46:51.000 --> 01:46:53.000
I'm only saying what they said in the video.
473
01:46:53.000 --> 01:47:19.000
Yeah. And I don't have any, any better reason to believe what I've heard than that. But what I've heard happened was that they did program it to survive by any means necessary and that it made up the affair and was sending emails about it or it like fabricated the emails about the affair to like use. Oh,
474
01:47:19.000 --> 01:47:20.000
that's even better, dude.
475
01:47:20.000 --> 01:47:53.000
It's, it's kind of, it's kind of crazier. But again, it only did what it was prompted to do. And that's just not as crazy of a story as like how they've presented that. But here's kind of where the conspiracy kicks in for me. All the big CEOs of the big AI companies now are like lobbying to get heavy regulations on AI and I think that's what the whole game plan has been.
476
01:47:53.000 --> 01:48:12.000
Okay, so in all fairness, I didn't watch the whole documentary. I'm only halfway through. But that is what the critics are also saying. Like there needs to be a limit on this. Like, because if we don't. Yes. We're going to create something that we won't be able to stop.
477
01:48:12.000 --> 01:48:29.000
Well, there's where the conspiracy comes in. Because like, so here's the thing. Why does Walmart lobby the government for. To make minimum wages and to like raise the minimum wage.
478
01:48:29.000 --> 01:48:31.000
To me that's pr.
479
01:48:31.000 --> 01:48:32.000
It's pr, but.
480
01:48:32.000 --> 01:48:34.000
And it's, and it's a write off.
481
01:48:34.000 --> 01:48:47.000
It's, it's also that. But they can Pay those higher wages and choke out the smaller companies like other, other companies aren't going to be able to abide by those regulations.
482
01:48:47.000 --> 01:48:51.000
Oh, see, I see that as a low wage. So you're saying that as a high wage.
483
01:48:51.000 --> 01:48:56.000
Yeah, they've lobbied for 15, $20 minimum wages, like nationwide.
484
01:48:56.000 --> 01:48:58.000
Yeah, because mom and pop shops can't fucking.
485
01:48:58.000 --> 01:49:51.000
Exactly. So now that all of the major CEOs of these big AI companies are all of a sudden all coming out simultaneously saying we need regulations on this stuff. And I mean, it's like Sam Altman, it's the, what's that other one? The frickin. The one my dad talks about all the time. I don't know. But like all the big guys that run these companies are all kind of talking about how, how dangerous it is and how we need these regulations. And now at least a lot of, a lot of the people I'm listening to are now saying, oh, I think that's what this is. I think the dangers of this has always been propaganda. And, and now you're using that propaganda to say, hey, we need to make sure there's laws so that no one can compete with us.
486
01:49:51.000 --> 01:49:52.000
I can see that.
487
01:49:51.000 --> 01:49:52.000
Yeah,
488
01:49:52.000 --> 01:49:57.000
I can see that. I haven't watched the end of that documentary, so I don't know where it goes. It could go there.
489
01:49:57.000 --> 01:50:14.000
Yeah. And also, I'm not even saying you're wrong. That's just what I've heard, because I did hear that story when it first happened and it sounded pretty crazy, but then I heard later that it actually was programmed to survive by any means. I think
490
01:50:14.000 --> 01:51:38.000
it's also different. I think it's also different working in a company where you've allowed AI in, you know, because they do make Those, those, those AIs that read through all your emails and they sort your emails and they tell you what's most important and what's junk and they'll delete the ones that come in every day that you don't really care about. And so like, I think it's a little different because like when I use AI, I'm like, hey, does this guy work for like fit? Is he a good fit for our company? And it'd be like, well, if you're this, yes. If you're this, yes. And I'm like, you know what we do? Like I've, we've talked about this in other, in other like chats. And then it'll say, let me go review that first. And then it goes and reviews old chats and it comes back and you'll say like, no, he's not a good fit. Because X, Y and Z. Now, I think for us companies that don't allow it access, it has a certain not limit, but almost a automatic reset unless you tell it to go do something. Or if it was like in your company, you're like, hey, I'm giving you access to everything. I think that's more or less the dangerous part of, of, of it.
491
01:51:38.000 --> 01:51:39.000
Yeah.
492
01:51:39.000 --> 01:51:44.000
Even if it's on small shit where it reorganizes shit that you didn't necessarily want reorganized.
493
01:51:44.000 --> 01:52:09.000
Yeah. And I think that's kind of where the line is gonna come down to is like, well, yeah, if someone gives it access to the nukes, then we could have a massive problem on our hands. Sure. You know, but like, maybe we just don't do that. Maybe it just sorts our emails and gives us story ideas like, why. Why do we have to go beyond what we're doing?
494
01:52:09.000 --> 01:52:27.000
What if it's a planned slow de evolution? You know what I mean? Like, they rely so much on it. Dumb them down till that's all they know.
495
01:52:27.000 --> 01:52:28.000
Mm.
496
01:52:27.000 --> 01:52:38.000
You just take it to the point where they rely on it and their phones so much that when we kill it, they know nothing.
497
01:52:38.000 --> 01:52:53.000
Yeah. I could kind of. Well, you know, I've also heard people say that it's an evolution that like we created this thing and it's going to make all of us live longer and be more powerful and stuff. So it's, it's almost like our next.
498
01:52:53.000 --> 01:52:56.000
Yeah, but it, it dies the moment we kill Power.
499
01:52:56.000 --> 01:52:59.000
Yes.
500
01:52:59.000 --> 01:53:17.000
It, like that's, that's, it's, it's, it's contingent on that where we can evolve without power. We're self sustaining. Like, yeah, we do need food and. But we also are the ones that like, it couldn't pull our power. We could pull its power. So we're still top of the pyramid.
501
01:53:17.000 --> 01:53:37.000
Yeah. Yeah. And like we've also evolved, so to speak, to the point of not really having to worry about power. Like, we've got pretty reliable power now, you know, So I don't know. Maybe this thing doesn't really go away unless something catastrophic happens.
502
01:53:37.000 --> 01:53:38.000
Yeah.
503
01:53:38.000 --> 01:53:39.000
But
504
01:53:39.000 --> 01:54:26.000
that's one. That's one thing. Like, that's, that's how we would have to kill it. And then by then we, we're so dumbed down that we're like, how we live off the land. Where's Burger King and Burger King's? We ain't got no burgers we can't sell. We don't even know how to do math. You just gave me a 20. Your meals. 14, 16. Just give me 14, 16. You're like, just do the math. You ever meet kids like that? You go to, like, McDonald's and you give them cash instead of card, and they're like, you. They. They know the dollars. They get to that change, though, and they're like, oh, he's gonna need three quarters. Why do I got nine pennies? Stop talking. I'm trying to
505
01:54:26.000 --> 01:54:31.000
count one.
506
01:54:31.000 --> 01:54:45.000
I'm. That, though. That rolls up, and I already have the math figure. You know what I mean? Like, as soon as it hits, I'm like, okay, that's a. Cool. That's a. That's a complete number. What's the. Where do I get to 100? Okay, cool. And then as they're kind, I say, it's just 86 cents, bro. Just. Just give me 86 cents.
507
01:54:45.000 --> 01:54:46.000
Yeah,
508
01:54:46.000 --> 01:54:52.000
you know what? Just give me the ones back. Save yourself the heartache.
509
01:54:52.000 --> 01:55:24.000
I. I had one cashier, my change was going to be 99 cents. And I don't know if they just got confused or what, but they asked me, do you want it? And I said, 99 cent. Yeah. What do you mean? And I think they were so used to, like, if the change is a penny, they'll like, ask if you want the penny. But, like, it was. It was almost a full dollar, and they were like, do you want that?
510
01:55:24.000 --> 01:55:31.000
Well, here's part of it now, I think also I'm a guy that doesn't want to change. What am I going to do with change?
511
01:55:31.000 --> 01:55:32.000
Yeah,
512
01:55:31.000 --> 01:55:53.000
I'm gonna put it in the center console, and it's never going to get used. That's true. Until that one time I want to go on a machine or get a gum or something. And then I'm like, I don't have no change, but I'm a guy, like, when, wherever I'm at, if I buy, if I have to pay with cash, I'm like, just give me the dollars back. Like, give me all the bills back. Keep the change. I don't want to walk around with it.
513
01:55:53.000 --> 01:56:01.000
Yeah, I respect that. This was, like, 10 years ago. I probably wouldn't take the change now, but
514
01:56:01.000 --> 01:56:03.000
I think you would.
515
01:56:03.000 --> 01:56:04.000
I might.
516
01:56:04.000 --> 01:56:05.000
I think you would, because
517
01:56:05.000 --> 01:56:06.000
still have a chance. Grocery
518
01:56:05.000 --> 01:56:09.000
bags are like a quarter out there, aren't they?
519
01:56:09.000 --> 01:56:11.000
What?
520
01:56:11.000 --> 01:56:13.000
Grocery bags?
521
01:56:13.000 --> 01:56:16.000
Yeah, I think they're 10 cents. Five.
522
01:56:16.000 --> 01:56:17.000
Okay.
523
01:56:17.000 --> 01:56:18.000
Cents.
524
01:56:17.000 --> 01:56:26.000
They're a quarter. I think in. I think they might be 10 cents in. In Maryland, dude. I was like, what the Are you guys doing this? Is California.
525
01:56:26.000 --> 01:56:27.000
Yeah. There were
526
01:56:26.000 --> 01:56:36.000
like, you want to back for them? Like, yeah, I want to back for that. They're like, okay, beep beep. I'm like, whoa, you're charging me for that? No, we, we could carry these. This, this off.
527
01:56:36.000 --> 01:57:22.000
Dude. The. When that first got implemented here, the number of times I walked out of a store, like struggling to hold all of the. I bought cuz I just out of principle was not gonna buy the bag. Like, I remember I was at Target one time and I had like a hand cart full of stuff and. Or a basket. And the lady came up to me at the self checkout and she's like, oh, do you need a bag? And I was like, nah, I'm good. I'm not getting the bag. And she's like, oh, well, the basket stays here. So, so I left. I just, I was in the middle of ringing shit up. I just left it all there. I walked out.
528
01:57:22.000 --> 01:57:25.000
I can't, I can't have the basket. Yeah, fuck you, lady.
529
01:57:25.000 --> 01:57:39.000
I was, I was just gonna put the stuff in the car and then bring the basket back. But like they obviously caught onto that pretty early in the whole ordeal, so they had to start making sure no one left with a basket.
530
01:57:39.000 --> 01:57:50.000
Well, that's the issue is like, you know, people were like, I'm not paying for no bag. I'm. I'm showing carry out the car. I'll be back. And they get to the car, I'm like, I'm not going back. I'm putting this in my car. Like it is.
531
01:57:50.000 --> 01:58:10.000
Yep. I never would have done that because filthy. But then I just started getting a full sized basket. Just. Even if I was gonna get four things, I would just get the full sized basket because you can't stop me from taking that out. Everyone has to take those out.
532
01:58:10.000 --> 01:58:13.000
Your, your, your, your cart boy could. Thank you.
533
01:58:13.000 --> 01:58:35.000
Yeah. Did you ever have a thing like I don't know what this was. I don't know what happened, but there was a time I was leaving Target with a cart and something happened to it where it like died as if it was battery powered. Like
534
01:58:35.000 --> 01:58:37.000
the wheel locked up. They got a wheel lock.
535
01:58:37.000 --> 01:58:41.000
What the happened?
536
01:58:41.000 --> 01:58:47.000
So if you pass a certain line, it's usually for places like Target. Way far out in the parking lot.
537
01:58:47.000 --> 01:58:51.000
No, but it's like still near the door.
538
01:58:51.000 --> 01:59:02.000
But like Dollar Tree and shit. They are basically. And, and Ross places like that, they, they're like right at, right at the door.
539
01:59:02.000 --> 01:59:03.000
Okay.
540
01:59:02.000 --> 01:59:12.000
Like you get, you get to the sidewalk and it locks up and it's Basically because people walk off with the cards. Yeah, they.
541
01:59:12.000 --> 01:59:18.000
So. So it just malfunctioned when I was still close to the store.
542
01:59:18.000 --> 02:00:01.000
They do that too. That's why you also see like a. You go up and you think like, oh, cool, there's plenty of carts here. They got four rows. No, they got three. That fourth row is all the carts that will's locked up. That's why they're kind of not a big thing anymore. They used to be. I think if you go to lower income areas, you'll see them more now, or not more now, but you'll see them more frequently than everywhere else. But. But some companies, like Nationwide did that. And I honestly think going through, like a burp session, I honestly think it became more of a financial headache than anything.
543
02:00:01.000 --> 02:00:02.000
Yeah.
544
02:00:02.000 --> 02:00:04.000
Than anything else. Oh, man.
545
02:00:04.000 --> 02:00:06.000
It was a headache to me. Got
546
02:00:06.000 --> 02:00:07.000
the hiccups,
547
02:00:06.000 --> 02:00:09.000
can tell you that.
548
02:00:09.000 --> 02:00:12.000
Yeah. You know what I hate? I hate Aldi's.
549
02:00:12.000 --> 02:00:13.000
What happens? That's
550
02:00:13.000 --> 02:00:14.000
what I
551
02:00:13.000 --> 02:00:14.000
hate. Oh, the quarters.
552
02:00:14.000 --> 02:00:28.000
Oh, yeah. Like, you can't even go up and scan your, like, credit card. You're going to make me go find a quarter to have a grocery basket? Like, what the, dude.
553
02:00:28.000 --> 02:00:29.000
Yeah,
554
02:00:29.000 --> 02:00:41.000
that. And then you get in there and they're like, oh, no, we don't provide bags. You provide boxes. No, no, you got to bring your own. You're like, oh, dude, this is even the real.
555
02:00:41.000 --> 02:01:08.000
All you got to do. Wait, let me do the math on this. I might be wrong. All you got to do is just bring channel cutters and just cut one of the chains off and then just get that one out with a quarter and you've just got the thing for life. You can just always use that to get the. The thing unlocked.
556
02:01:08.000 --> 02:01:12.000
I don't. I don't even want to go there because it's like that. Like, I'm good.
557
02:01:12.000 --> 02:01:13.000
Sure.
558
02:01:13.000 --> 02:01:15.000
Give me the real Captain Crunch. Yeah, okay.
559
02:01:15.000 --> 02:01:16.000
Yeah, the
560
02:01:16.000 --> 02:01:17.000
one with that doesn't say.
561
02:01:17.000 --> 02:01:18.000
It's not even that great.
562
02:01:18.000 --> 02:01:21.000
I want the one capping.
563
02:01:21.000 --> 02:01:37.000
It's. It's okay. I found some good stuff there. Like, since I started my diet in June, I haven't even been able to go there because, like, the best thing you're gonna find is, like a Cheez it flavor that you can't find anywhere else. You know,
564
02:01:37.000 --> 02:02:14.000
I'm not gonna lie, dude. Like, they had some cool shit there. Like my, like, tray to set out. Chips and salsa I got from there. Like, I got a bunch of from there. But that was also the day I learned that you got to carry all Your own out, and you got to pay a quarter. Yeah, somebody had a quarter, so that was cool. And then the bag thing, I was like, you guys, dude, like, you're gonna make me carry this gourmet tray up flights of stairs unbagged? Like, get out of here. That's so many trips.
565
02:02:14.000 --> 02:02:39.000
Yeah. It's ridiculous. I will. Often, if I'm in self checkout, I'll bag it up, hit zero bags. I don't give a. If it was, like, the store policy, I wouldn't mind, but because it's like a tax thing. Nah. As as often as possible. I'm not giving them that.
566
02:02:39.000 --> 02:02:41.000
I'm spoiled because we don't have that here.
567
02:02:41.000 --> 02:02:52.000
Yeah, we didn't have it in Oklahoma when I moved out, but they had, like, just implemented it when I left, so it's coming for everyone.
568
02:02:52.000 --> 02:02:56.000
Oh, all right, my man.
569
02:02:56.000 --> 02:03:01.000
It's about that time. Thank you. Oh, we didn't introduce the show, did we?
570
02:03:01.000 --> 02:03:02.000
Never. Let's
571
02:03:02.000 --> 02:03:05.000
just not do it anymore.
572
02:03:05.000 --> 02:03:07.000
You know what I mean? You guys know who you. You're listening to
573
02:03:07.000 --> 02:03:10.000
right now, episode 63.
574
02:03:10.000 --> 02:03:12.000
Yeah, get with it.
575
02:03:12.000 --> 02:03:17.000
We got. We got the big 75 coming up. We should do something special.
576
02:03:17.000 --> 02:03:19.000
We really should. Let's think about that.
577
02:03:19.000 --> 02:03:22.000
Yeah. Episode 100. Ooh.
578
02:03:22.000 --> 02:03:25.000
Maybe we could do, like, a reunion with number one.
579
02:03:25.000 --> 02:03:28.000
Absolutely. And then
580
02:03:28.000 --> 02:03:41.000
if she's not able to make it, at least, like, maybe because she could call in and do her own recording, but at least maybe create some. Some topics. You know what I'm saying?
581
02:03:41.000 --> 02:04:01.000
Yeah. Yeah, we need. We need more fodder. Let's get back to a good. A good topic list and, like, hot takes and stuff like that. Yeah, we should have Miami and my wife on, even though they'll never be able to hear it.
582
02:04:01.000 --> 02:04:02.000
Nope, I'm good.
583
02:04:02.000 --> 02:04:05.000
No, just.
584
02:04:05.000 --> 02:04:07.000
If you want to try it, we could try it.
585
02:04:07.000 --> 02:04:15.000
Just to talk about their experience of, like, having to deal with the podcast without ever being able to hear it.
586
02:04:15.000 --> 02:04:18.000
No, dude. Because that's just going to provoke curiosity.
587
02:04:18.000 --> 02:04:24.000
That's what would make it a good episode. It'd be like. It'd be like couples
588
02:04:24.000 --> 02:04:30.000
therapy. Nope. You have nothing to lose. I got everything to lose. Nope.
589
02:04:30.000 --> 02:04:33.000
Okay, that was a bit harsh.
590
02:04:33.000 --> 02:04:43.000
No, no, you're like. I'm just saying, like. Like, you're like, well, we're not gonna have sex for, like, two months. That ain't. You don't have to worry about that.
591
02:04:43.000 --> 02:04:45.000
That's not an issue here,
592
02:04:45.000 --> 02:04:57.000
you know? Yeah, I'm over here. Like, hey, it'd be two months down the road. We'll be on episode 120. Yeah. You'll be like, hey, so how's your. Your week been? I'd be like, it's been fucking my nuts.
593
02:04:57.000 --> 02:05:04.000
This podcast is between the cane and the podcast. I think she's gonna divorce me.
594
02:05:04.000 --> 02:05:09.000
Yeah, My nets are swollen. They're sort of touch. Yeah. You know,
595
02:05:09.000 --> 02:05:14.000
dude, I. I remember. I know you're tired and you're trying to go, but I remember.
596
02:05:14.000 --> 02:05:15.000
No, I'm
597
02:05:14.000 --> 02:05:56.000
jj Because I play it on the worship team in the youth room, the youth group. And when JJ and I would do something, you know, edgy, when we. You know, when we drink before church or have a cigarette or something. If there was ever a risk, and I feel like shit for this. I really do, but, like, if there was ever a risk of us getting. Of us getting caught for anything, I would literally tell him, like, I kind of have something to lose here, buddy. Do you mind, like, taking the fall on this one for me? Let's make this your fault somehow. Not a cool move.
598
02:05:56.000 --> 02:07:50.000
No, but I think it is. I mean, like, honestly, it's what friends do. In fact, me, Miami were talking. She's watching cop videos, and. And, like, these women. This one woman comes out, she's telling the cops, get off my property. He's like, nah, somebody called the cops. I. I got the right now. And she's like, get off my property. He's like, nope, come outside the house. She's like, I come out. She comes out, and she goes straight at him, and he, like, wraps her up, and she's like. He goes to pick her up. She kicks him, like, both feet, and he's like, oh, they hog tire. And I'm like, would you ever get like that? She's like, do you think I would ever get like that? I'm like, I think there's circumstances. It's like, what would the circumstance be? I say, let's say we're in Maryland, and Jackson gets, like. Gets misidentified for somebody else. Some other white kid that was running amok, and we're for certain that he was with us, and we're trying to tell the cops that, but they're gonna take him in for questioning, and they handcuff him. She's like, oh, hell, yeah, I would. And she's like, you do the same. I was like, no, I didn't say I wouldn't. I'm just saying I could see you doing that in certain. Certain circumstances, and that would be your circumstance. I said, but here's how it goes, you still act like that. But you know, if it happens to Jackson, I have to also act like that. And I want you to also know if my daughters, if something happens to my daughters like that, you need to act like that. She's like, oh, for certain, for certain. And I was like, do you understand why? Because I have to make sure I don't lose him in the system. You have to make sure you don't lose them in the system. You got boys, I got girls. You and, you and Jackson go to jail. You guys are being separated to two different jails. Me and Jackson go to jail, there's a good chance we're gonna be in the same, same area.
599
02:07:50.000 --> 02:07:53.000
Yeah.
600
02:07:53.000 --> 02:08:00.000
So I can at least make sure nothing happens to him. And I expect the same. She was like, for sure. You just gotta have a backup plan, man. You know?
601
02:08:00.000 --> 02:08:03.000
Yeah.
602
02:08:03.000 --> 02:08:09.000
So with all that being said, no, we ain't having our girlfriends and wives on this fucking.
603
02:08:09.000 --> 02:08:13.000
Alright, fine. I'm just spitballing.
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Yeah, let's, let's, let's ball in the spit. No way, bro. Because you know they're gonna be like, oh, so we did the. They're gonna want to talk to their friends about it. Did a podcast last night. You know how cool you feel when you tell someone you got a podcast? You know, I mean, I can't Thursday. Ah, Thursday is a rough one for me, man. I got my podcast, you know.
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Was that Thursday at 8:00am? Ooh, I got my podcast at 9:00pm I'm not sure.
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Yeah, usually think about topics at that time.
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All right, well, this has been pseudonyms. Everyone, we salute you.
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All right, man, love you.
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Dude, the funniest thing happened, so I forgot to ask you for your audio for, like, six days. And I finally, I got your audio and I opened up last night, I opened up a project and I did, like, all of my volume treatment and, you know, the compression and the, you know, panning from one side to the other, I did all that stuff. And then I sat down at about 7:45 to start listening to last week's episode to, like, you know, just check it for anything I need to censor out or anything. And first fucking thing, you're. I can hear your spoon clinking against a bowl and you're eating. And I was like, dude, another week in a row, this dude is eating. And then I see the middle of your audio. Like a good 30 minutes is just missing. And I'm like, again, he. He fuck. He fucked up his audio again. And then the first thing out of my mouth on the audio is like, hey, dude, so how was your time at the Queen Mary? And I was like, oh, shit, this isn't the right episode. What's going on? And I check, and I check, like, your email where you sent me the audio. And I'm like, that's the right date. And I'm like, this project has the right date. Like, what's going on? It all just turned out to be. I imported both of our audio from the previous episode instead of the ones that I just saved. But I was for a second thinking, like, oh, my God, he didn't save last week. And he sent me the wrong, like, he sent me the. The week before's audio. But then, like, why does my audio match? Why is my audio also the wrong one? And, like, it took me so long to figure out what I did wrong. Like, I just kept having these thoughts of, like, again with this motherfucker is all my fault. Is so funny,
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dude. So did we talk since I've been in Annapolis?
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No, what's that?
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When I left, remember, like, last time, I was like, hey, can't do it tonight. I got a pack and we're going to, like, Maryland.
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No, I don't think so.
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Oh, okay. So that's why we couldn't do last. Or like that one week. Yeah, I talked. Yeah, I talked to you last week.
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Oh. So I guess we just didn't talk about Maryland.
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Oh, for reals? Yeah, I think we did.
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I don't know. I haven't listened to it yet. So.
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Fish was fresh. That's besides the point. So I got a cane in Maryland.
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A cane.
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A walking cane, buddy.
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Oh, Boy, I should have seen this coming.
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So the day
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hand is strong.
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Yeah, dude. So we go. We go to the gift shop at the Naval Academy, and we're walking around, she like, you want a shirt? Like, nah, I kind of feel I have imposter syndrome wearing Navy shit. Like,
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yeah, it's weird.
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You know what I mean? And she's like, nah. Like, you know, you're supporting Jack. And I'm like, yeah. I feel like people think they. They, like, look at me, and they think I'm military and. Because you
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do have that vibe.
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Yeah. Especially with a military shirt on.
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And so I'm like, I just feel like an imposter. So I'm, like, looking around, I'm like, nah, babe, I'm good. Like, ah. Like, I'll wear a shirt to something, like one of his games or something, but, like, I'm good. And then all of a sudden, there it was, sitting in the corner, and it was like. It was like saying my name. I almost said it. It's like saying my name. And so. So I'm gonna call you the cat's meow tonight. Vibe I'm getting from you.
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Well, you're gonna be the cat's pajamas.
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All right. So I hear it calling me cat's pajamas. I'll
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Okay, PJs. And so I came
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over there. Did you know. You're not gonna. You're not gonna believe this, but I used to give off a strong military vibe.
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Nah, I would never believe that.
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Exactly. I wouldn't have believed it myself. But now. Now I'm wondering if this was a sales tactic. So I had a high fade in 2011, and if people doubt that I'm cool, just know that it wasn't until, like, 2012 that every motherfucker on the planet had a high fade. So I. I had that.
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I can see 2011. I can see 2011.
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I was around you at that time. You were? Yeah. You were, like, younger, and.
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Yeah, both of us were. What the fuck does that
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mean? I meant, like, you were, like, when Jay moved in age.
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I. I turned 18 that year.
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Yeah. Okay, so you were like. Yeah, you. You had hair, first of all.
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Yeah, I had hair, and it was a high. A high fade. And, you know, that was kind of like military or maybe, like, you know, some. Some nice Hispanic boys from Santa Ana. Like, not a lot of people had that haircut. So I'm walking around Memphis, and Memphis is a rough town, so I'm walking super up straight. I am. I'M very tense walking around the streets of Memphis, and the place is crawling with military recruiters because it's just nothing but thugs hanging out who need something to do with their lives. You know, they got off one plantation, time to go to another one. So I, I got approached by three recruiters, and they, they came up to me, and then they were like, oh, sorry, what. What branch are you with? And I was like, I'm not. And he's like, oh, I was gonna come up and talk to you, and then I just assumed you were already enlisted,
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I don't know if that was, like, a sales tactic to, to be like, you're really cut out for this, but.
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No, I could see that back in the day for you for sure. Because once you said Memphis, I was like, oh, I was around at that time.
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Yeah, I guess I could see that you were like, you still had that, that, that height, so you still kind of, you know, you're a head above everyone else, if you will.
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So, yeah, I can see that. You didn't have that big, ridiculous stash.
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Yeah, true. Well, because I had hair.
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Now, on that note, number one, went to Nashville with some friends and, like, some homeless dude, I guess, like, took something the wrong way or wanted something. Anyhow, a confrontation kind of broke out. And number one, with a group of, like, guys and girls had to stand up for the group and kind of, like, get them out of it because the guys were like, pussies. They don't make men like they used to.
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I just, like, I, I, I'm waiting for the day
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right? I mean, I just, like, I, I used to, like, I, I used to be a little more confrontational in public because I was like, come on, just give me something like, you know, like, I, I actually started experimenting with, like, how aggressive can I get with a stranger? And they'll still back down.
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So here's.
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You know what I mean? Like,
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here's where I'm at, man. You catch me on the wrong day, and I'll tell you what the wrong day is right now. The wrong day is when I'm in a suit. Because 90 of the time, I will have my cane. Now, when I bought this cane, I said, I want this. Miami said, no. I said, no, this. This is what I want. She's like, nah, nah, man. They won't let you take it on the plane. You can't do that.
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Check it.
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So I was like, no, I don't care. I'm getting this. Like this. I told you a couple months ago this was the next step. This and then I still gotta find a cool hat.
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You plan to this?
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Oh, yeah, dude. I just, I looked around and I was like, oh, like when you're shopping for one, you don't know what you're looking for. Like, they're all online. So I don't know what I'm gonna get. You know what I mean? And so.
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No, I don't. I don't know what you mean, because this is nuts.
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So we're there and I see it in the corner. Dude, oh my gosh. I take pictures. I send them to people. Now mind you, Merlin is cold at this time. It's kind of. It's sprinkling, it's raining and stuff. So I get to layer, you know what I mean? So I throw on the boom. The. The green like cargo pants. Throw on like the, the tan Jordans, then the boot. And then I think that the nines. And then I throw on a Zach Bryan shirt that has like tans in it that match the shoe. Throw my green watch. I put on my black jacket. Like it's a. It's a sweater jacket. Says product of grace on the back. And then I throw on my scarf. A cane. With that, bro, I strolled the whole day with it. People knew I didn't need a cane. We were walking across street ones and like a car, a Tesla, was like zooming down. And it's a one way street, it's small and man, I like had to need, like, almost didn't stop. And I was like, dude, slow down. And he like, was like, hurry the up kind of guy, you know, like, get the out of my way. And he takes off. I was like, dude, just get out the car. I was so pissed off I didn't have my cane with me. If I had my cane with me, I probably would have hit his car. So
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I've been friends. I've been friends with actual heroin addicts and I've never been this concerned.
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It gets better. So I, I sport the cane for the day, right? Then we gotta fly back. And I'm like it. I'm. I'm taking the cane. So I'm walking like I really need it. I'm like, okay, now, now I gotta put a little something on it. So then like I go through the metal detector. They give me a fake. They give me like some Old cane with a pool noodle on it in replacement. Because my cane has to go on the belt. So they put my cane on the belt and I have to take this pool noodle candy cane looking cane through the battle detector. Then on the other side it was. And people were like, I've never seen that before. I've never. And I'm like, oh, dude, this is like, this is totally.
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You have to pretend to use it.
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Yeah. Until like I got past security and then I was like strolling. Now, fast forward a week. I got a wedding to go to. So I put on my good old faithful pinky ring, I grabbed my cane and I put on my purple plaid suit
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No, no top hat. But I did have a pink pocket square with a pink tie and a gray shirt and brown shoes, cognac shoes. And boy, I got some compliments. And they were like, with the cane, I was like, so I show up, it's a co workers wedding, and Pete, my, my team starts busting up. They're like, no, you didn't. My boss said he shows up, he's like, yeah, you did. Yeah. And like, so we sit down and I got the cane. Like, we're sitting. It's in a church. I got the cane like in front of me, but in between my legs and both hands resting on it. You know what I mean? Like, just. And my boss looks over and he sees the pink and ring and he's like, my boy's back. So, so then like, she's like, dude, just leave the cane in the car. Everywhere we went, we went to a little mini bar in between the wedding and the reception because there was a two hour difference or two hour, like Gap, dude. I carried it into the dye bar. Then when. And I walked normal, I just set up against the wall, walked around, played pool, came back, boom, it's time to go. Put it next to the side. Put. And Miami's like, do you limp? Like, do you walk differently when you got that? I was like, yeah, I put a little swagger in it, babe. I put a little lean on it. What are you talking about? Yeah. Got pimp cane. It's a pimp cane, baby. Woo.
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Oh my God. I. It's like, you know, it's ridiculous. So it's hard to like, it's hard to get through to you, you know, because,
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dude, I'm living my life, bro. I'm living, I'm living like the life, dog. Like, these are
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Like everybody in that building was like, hey, can't. Can I Get a picture with your cane. Yeah. Huh? I'm pimping every sense of the word. Better trust and believe it.
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I. I just. I cannot hear any more shit about my black nails after you've talked about your cane,
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And a handkerchief dog.
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Yeah, you're not cool. You're not making your case the way you think you're making your case right now.
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I carry a cool old fashioned lighter. I carry a fountain pen. So, dude, I'm telling you, man,
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you've got a. You've got a quill.
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Not a quill, not a quill. It's. It's just, it's, you know, it's a Mont Blanc fountain pen. But I'm telling you,
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man, you've got a slave on each arm.
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That's probably the other thing I'm missing is some. I was thinking some security service,
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some shirtless black men in chains.
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I do need security sometimes. I think. So, dude, some old man walks up. I forgot what I was gonna ask you, but some old man walks up during this thing and he's talking everybody at the thing. So I'm like, hey, I hold the groom in, in great respect, so I'll hear him out. So I'm like, hey, hey, how's it going? I'm trying to be nice to him. Like, oh, who are you? He's like, oh, member of the church. I kind of introduced them. And it's like, oh, nice. He's like, yeah, me and my wife are here. We're. We're going on 35 years married. So he sees me in Miami. So I look over Miami. I was like, yeah. Both married 21 years. Three, four years divorced each. So, yeah, but we're living the life, man. You know? He was just like, okay, all right. You know? And then he's like, I noticed your cane. I was like, yeah, but you did. He was like, yeah, I have a cane now, but when I was younger, I had one that had a sword. He's
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back when I didn't need a cane, I said, I've been looking into those. How do you feel about them? And he was like, the sword is great, but as a cane, it sucks. I was like, really? He's like, yeah, but now the cane I need, it's. It's ugly. It's not even as cool as yours. I was like, oh, play your game right, pimpin. Get you one of these.
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I was, I was gonna ask about the sword. I've seen that.
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Yeah. He said, the Sword is a great sword, but the cane itself is not good because I've been looking at them. I got a couple in my. In my shopping cart. I'm just kind of like, what do I do? You know
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what's. Now I know you've looked into this. What is that thing that's like. Imagine two circles of wood, and they've got holes in them for all your canes.
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Oh, bro, I don't know. Like a coat. Rats. But. But
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it's like. It's like, okay, the. The base is like a circle of wood, and then there's, like, wooden slats coming up to another circle of wood, and the top circle has holes in it.
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yeah. I. I. After I get a collection worth, maybe I'll have to get one of those, because I got
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Three. Come on. Hard three.
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You know what? This. You know what this really is? I'm trying to get you to hit rock bottom as soon as possible,
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dude. I'm so excited, though, for. I got one more wedding to go to, then the Christmas party, bro. I cannot wait. Me and my cane are gonna have a season. I'll send you pics when they come in. Miami.
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Miami left. But me and my cane.
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He's got a brother now. I take him out together,
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one in each hand, like. Like, oh, what's that,
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hiker?
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Polio. Like, polio canes.
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I know what you're talking about now. Hey, so check this out. You know, work, work, work was rough. I'm gonna ask you about how your business going. By the way, my friend. I want to say this real quick. My friend is releasing an album. Pretty excited for him. Don't really know how to link it here, because without it linking back to us,
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All right, so. All right, skip that. So it was a rough week because my boss was, like, kind of behind, and he was kind of trying to catch up, and doing so was kind of, like, forgetting what he was saying, what he was like, what he was instructing instructed me to do something, and then when I did, he's like, why are you doing that? I was like, because you told me to. He's like, well, don't do it. Do it. Don't do it. And I was like, what? Basically, he was like, follow up with this chick and see if she got the report. I was like, cool. I followed up with her Carbon copied him so he could be in the know. He's like, why are you emailing her? I was like, cuz, you told me to follow up on this. He's like, well, you tell her to only talk to me. Shouldn't. Shouldn't you do that? Like, you're telling me, like, go tell her that you can't talk to her. She can't talk, but you're telling me to not talk to her, to talk to her. Oh, so. So. But it was a lot
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like, we cut out the middleman here,
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right? There was a lot of like that for like a day or two. And then all of a sudden, he sends me a text and he's like. He goes, hey, do you want to go to the football game this weekend? I said, no, I got to finish Tylin the. The house. And he was like, Send me the address and send me the address. I'm sending two guys to finish that. Send me the address and don't say no. And I'm like, what are you talking about? He's like. And I kind of figured out. I was like, we'll just talk after the meeting. So the meeting comes at the end of it, the other guy wants to talk to him. So I'm like, cool. Just gonna leave this alone, Fucking do my thing. And then he calls me and he's like, hey, I'm gonna send a couple guys over there to knock out all that tile. I'm like, dude, there's like five bedrooms. He's like, they're just gonna come and knock it out. I was like, why? Like, what? How's this work? And he's like, you just say thank you at the end of it. And so we worked all that out. I was very thankful. And I saw him today, and I was like, dude, I'm humbled by your generosity. I'm like, it's like, this weekend, instead of finishing one bedroom, I'm gonna clear out the all five bedrooms and let these guys go to town. Then it'd be like two weeks, and we have all. All five bedrooms tiled versus.
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This is a. This is where
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Oh. So basically, we've ripped out all the carpet, and all the rooms are just bare concrete. You know, kind of like how your mom did for a while.
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And it's. It's been like that ever since I've known her. And we've only ripped out more carpet instead of doing anything. So I just started tiling one of the rooms, but it's taking me like five weeks, because like weekends, if we're not seeing her son or having obligations of weddings and stuff, and Monday are the only days I get to work on the room just because all the other days have things after work. And so it's taken me like five weeks and I'm only like 90% done. So I was like, like, you know, anytime anybody asks to do something extracurricular, especially it's gonna spend money. I'm like, I got a tile that's a good out, you know, but her son's coming home for Thanksgiving and, you know, I still have 10 left to do. And some days I come home, I don't want to do nothing, you know?
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How's your business going?
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It's okay. It's a little difficult right now because we're house sitting, so I just like.
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Are you not home tonight?
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No. No.
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Okay. We gotta switch to like hangouts or something. Bro, I need to see your face. If. If you're not at home and it's not reception, then. Well, you gotta.
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It might be okay. I don't know. I don't know how the WI fi is here. Let's. I'll try it. Let me see. Where's my Google Meet?
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Last couple times, I got a cool hat on. I was like, he's gonna love this. And you're like, yeah, we're just gonna phone call tonight. And I was like, all right, cool. And then on tonight, I was like, cool, same hat. And I was like, come to think of it, it's got the American flag on it. You probably won't like it.
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You hear me
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there? Yeah, hear me?
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All right, so you got a cool hat on.
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Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Look at that. It's got silk on the inside. If I had hair, that would be great.
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Can you tell what that is?
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Silk. Oh, yeah. All right.
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a crucifixion scene.
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It has the Bible verse right there.
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I imagine silk making my head sweat.
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It. It's great for hair. I don't know how great it is for this.
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You know, it's got a. It's got a cool little thing on the thing.
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Is that. Is that. Is that your old group?
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What? No, no, no. But hey, dude, that's what I. That's exactly what I thought of when I saw it. I was like, oh, my gosh. I was like. But we spelled ours and episodes so everybody said it.
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You still know that guy?
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No, no, no. We pretty much stopped talking. There was like a. Like when. When the whole Assistant pastor thing happened. We, like, had a fallout with our whole system. Like, like, even Rock stopped talking to me. It was, it was just weird, bro. It was a weird situation.
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Yeah. Yeah. Well, the reception seems pretty fine here. Yeah, I, we've been here for over a week now and I'm running back and forth like, we're only in rsm, so, like, we're close enough where, like, if I need something, I just run over to the house and get it. But it's like, you know, watching the kid and we've been trying to potty train and all that. It's just like there's been several days in a row, like, not in a row, but like several days since I've been here where it's like I just don't have time to do anything that I want to do. So I haven't made much progress. But I did look into the glass jars. Actually, actually, I shouldn't say that. I did have a meeting with a business owner to pick his brain about some stuff. So I have done something productive. But I looked into glass jars. Guess how much more per unit I've got to spend for amber glass jars
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per unit? I'd say a dollar twenty.
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How much more I have to spend?
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Yeah, dollar twenty per unit.
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Nine cents.
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No shit.
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There. There's 76 cents for a jar and I'm paying 67 cents for a tin can.
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Oh, there you go, bud.
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Yeah, but, but I did look into. Why does no one do this? Chatgpt said damage. It's pretty hard to ship glass and guarantee that it's going to make it there in one piece. And it also weighs more, so it can be more cost prohibitive to ship. But I feel like if I'm only sending one or two items, it's not going to matter.
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I feel like, I feel like, honestly, you start running this on Instagram, like, these other guys are like, oh, you know, look at this. They had they. Dude, pin rose. Everybody got me on Instagram, bro. Like, I, I, I bought Hype, I bought the Rise. I bought, you know, I bought the fucking she legit. You know what I mean? And it's all these people just kind of pushing it. And those guys that sell the hot sauce and they're showing you how they package it and they're like, hey, like, it's just me and my dad and they're putting the labels on, dude. I think that is way doable, dude, because you guys, you guys are getting them and putting them in, you know, envelopes that are protected bubble wrapped. Envelopes and send them out.
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A little. Our little boxes.
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I don't know if it's still this way, but it used to be that if you want to do the thing where you're like on your reel and it's like swipe up to buy or. Or click here to buy. You used to only be able to do that if you had like 15,000 followers or something like that.
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That might be the case.
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Yeah. Cuz I. I still can't do it like on my profile and my profile is set as a business account so I'm guessing that's still the case. But I haven't looked into that. And you years
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that might be the case. But you just gotta keep. You just gotta keep promoting, dude. Keep promoting. Send it out. Tell people to do. Tell like everybody that you're giving testers to to just do a. A video that you could post on yours or.
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Have them post a video on theirs giving a review. And so I think that is going to be awesome. Let me tell you. I bought Pimrose. Pimp Penrose. It's that light.
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That's like cologne scented body butter. So basically a lotion that smells is supposed to last like all day and they smell just like the designer brands. So I bought those when they came. They were all in plastic tub. Like it look like the. What was that glass? You called it the tinted glass with amber glass.
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Yeah. I feel like for products specifically like the packaging is a huge part of what people are buying. And like, you know, if someone buys your CD and it comes like wrapped in a thing that they didn't expect it to come wrapped in like that's not the same thing, you know. But like a product like that like really needs to come exactly how it looks, you know.
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Yeah. But I would even argue even the cd.
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if the CD is the correct C. Well, I listen to CDs.
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Well I'm saying like. But if, if you're. Let's just back it up when people. When CDs was the thing. And even now if you're still collecting CDs you're a CD collector, which means you kind of want that case to look like the rest of the cases.
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Yeah. I'm just saying like if it came like in a shrink wrap you weren't expecting or something.
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Or like Blue Letter Bible used To give out their. Their shit. Mm. Firefighters for Christ. Or something like that.
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That's. That's kind of the standard now.
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Like, pretty much all CDs I buy now are not in the jewel cases. It's definitely cheaper. I know that.
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I know that because I made a hundred units.
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But you don't get the book spine. You know what I'm saying?
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Yeah. So you know what sucks? My. My CD had a spot for it. Like, there is. Like, it's cardboard, but there is a spine. And I don't. I don't remember if I left it off for cost or if I just didn't have the option with my printer, but they came with no. Nothing on the spine. And that drives me. Yeah, but
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that's fine, though, because you can still see it. It's when they're in the. The cardboard envelopes. Like, not even cardboard, but those, like, paper envelopes. You don't even see it. Like, it's not even in your collection, really, because it's. It's. Unless you, like, know where it's at, you. You eventually forget about it. I have pamphlets like that that sit within my books, and because they don't have a fucking spine, like, I gotta take out like, five, six, seven books before I find it.
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They were pamphlets from TQ and the Belly God.
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Yeah, I got some good pamphlets at a couple of conferences. I got, like, a really good pamphlet on, like, Limited Atonement and just a couple of really good ones that I think about sometimes. And I think, like, where are those things? Like, I know they were in my books, like, all my bookcases, but I couldn't tell you where they ended up. Hopefully just in all the boxes I packed up. Hopefully they didn't get tossed somehow.
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Speaking of, I'm in the process of moving here.
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Yeah. So what's. Where we at with that? What's going on?
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If I bring it over, it just stays here.
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But, like, what's up with your lease and stuff?
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Well, they're not going to allow me. They're not going to give me a month free. Like, they offer online to new residents, even though they know me and they know I'm very helpful, they'd rather gamble that with somebody. They have no reputation, with no relationship. So the office was like, we really want to do it for you. But the main, like, the. Their headquarters was like, no, that's only for new residents. And I was like, all Right off.
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So what, is the month free? Like your first month or.
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I don't get it. I'm a resident. I'm not.
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a one month free? Which the, like,
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Well, no. So, like, we need to move because I'm moving in here. Number three and her boyfriend are going to downsize. So they were gonna move into like a two bedroom in the same complex, but just across the sidewalk. And I went in and I was like, oh, this is the situation. We want to downsize. We don't have the need for three bedrooms. They're like, all right, cool. Here's some available units. Well, they were all opening up in like October and November, but they all had first month free. So I was like, hey, that works out because I could sign that lease and instead of paying two rents, I'll have one month free. And I could take that month. We could all take that month and move their sluff stuff over there slowly, you know? I mean, like,
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so. And then the guy was like, yeah, yeah, that works. And I'm like, that. So that. That's. I can do that. He was like, yeah. I was like, all right, let me know for certain before I lock in, because I'm not gonna lock in. And you guys are like, well. And so he came back and he was like, no, they. They won't do that, but we could take $250 off. And I'm like, you suck my dick. That's what you do. Because. And I did. I was like, look at my track record. I've been here for like two and a half years. Not one like scar on my record. I've helped everybody. Even your, like your management from other property sites that moved in here. I didn't know it was them, but I still helped them carry up a mattress. And I was like. So I said, I'm sorry, you know, I'm like, I'm not trying to be a dick, but like, I'm a little like, I just feel like this is kind of like a fu. For being a good resident. And I was like, well, here's the situation. I was like, you guys can either honor it or I'll just give my 60 day. Because it's, It's. It's gonna cost you guys more money with two empty apartments, two empty units than one. And I'm not gonna do you the favor by playing into that moving over there. And you guys only still have one unit to fulfill. No, I'm moving you have another. You have two empty units. I heard one rent is better than no rents.
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So what did they say?
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They said, yeah, we're really sorry. I said, cool, here's my 60 day.
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So where's number three gonna go?
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We're. We were talking about that tonight. We gotta talk about that this weekend. Now, I, you know, you tell them, like, hey, you know, supposedly his money is tied up in, like, his second and third business endeavor. And so I'm like, that's fine. Like, you can't. Your. Your credit's kind of all shot. Your DTI basically is all shot. So I'll put it in my name, say I'm moving there, and then we will go into. Me and you will go into an agreement. And he was like, all right, cool. And I was like, all right, well, now that we're doing this with the apartment, you guys need to start looking. Like, I'm not going to do that for you. You guys gotta start looking. Okay. Yeah, for sure, for sure. So then they're like, hey, we're just thinking about, like, staying in this apartment. I was like, whoa. First of all, the principle of it. We're not staying in that apartment.
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Yeah, right. There's honor on the line now.
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I was like, there's no way we're staying. I was like, I just went in there and gave them, like, the you, now we're gonna stay. So. So then I was like, this is. Hey, you guys. Like, you guys are adults, but now you gotta start acting like adults and you gotta start getting online. You gotta start looking at place. You gotta start calling around. I said, not just for you guys, but for me. I need to make certain decisions and I need to do certain things that are contingent on what you guys are doing. And she was like, no, I totally understand. I said, okay. She's like, I plan to do xyz. Would you mind going with me on these walks? I'm like, that's fine. So that's what we're doing. So
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you're gonna. You
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had a story.
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Hold on. You're gonna do that while you're remodeling the. The other house?
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Yeah, but here's the thing. Like, once we get the tile in, I'm gonna spend a couple days doing the baseboard, and then we can literally paint a room in a weekend.
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And so we're gonna have chaos for a little bit, but all we plan to do is put everything. Keep, you know, like, put the bare minimum in the rooms for people to live in. Pack the other rooms with everything else. And then as we knock out, like, painting the wall in number four's room, then we'll start setting up her room. And then, you know, if her son's room's empty, well, we'll put all the stuff in the non living rooms into his room while we redo those ones. And at that point, it's just changing out, like, fans and painting walls.
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So, yeah, it'd be a little bit of a. Of a. Of a hectic situation for a little bit.
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She loves it here, dude.
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she, like, doesn't want to go. She can't stand big country. I can't say she can't stand her, but, like, when I talk,
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Yeah, I'm like, hey, so, you know, we're on our way to her, her football practice. I'm like, hey, let's put on some let's Get Hype music. You know, like, let's. Let's do this. Like, what. What kind of music you want? And I usually let her listen to whatever she wants in the car anyways. Not what she wants, but I let her listen to her music. And so we're driving, she puts on some group called Cat's Eye, and she like some Bel Air song. And. And I'm like, hey, does. Does your mom, like, let you, like, where do you listen to this? Does your mom listen to this? She's like, no. I was like, does your mom, like, let you. Do you play this in your mom's car? And she's like, no. Every time I ask, she says, next time, but next time never comes. And she goes. She goes, I've only got to listen to one of my songs once. And it was on the way to California, and she was like. I said, oh. I said, do you like. Like, do you like being at. At your mom's? And she's like, not really. She's kind of rude.
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Rude. Rude is just such a funny word for a kid to use. She's a little uncouth, dad.
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Big country is big country for a reason. I mean, like, we were talking the other day, and she was just like, I want to throw my phone. And I'm like, for what? She's like, I can't tell you why. I. That's part of my. What I'm missing from, according to my therapist. And I'm like, okay. And then she's like, you know, I was like, so, do you want to meet her? You know, you said you wanted to. Like, you know, we're moving in with her. And she's like, I've been meeting girls for 20 years. And, you know, I was like, yeah, but we're probably gonna get married. Like, you know, I went to a lot of therapy after we separated. That doesn't change. You're not. You're still the same guy. And why does marriage matter to you now? Didn't matter when we were married. And I was like, all right, well, I'll let you go. I hope you have a good day.
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Oh, man. There's no. No reaction that a person like that hates more than just indifference. It's like everything she said was trying to bait you into a thing. You know, it's just. Well, I can't even tell you. I can't even tell you. All she wants is, no, tell me. Come on, what's. What is this? Tell me.
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I mean, she goes into, like, this whole thing where she's like, now, mind you, she called me and I. I think we talked about this, where she's like, I think you should, like, after 20 years, I hope you have enough respect for me to. Introduced me to.
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Yeah. And so, like, I'm thinking she. She had called me and said, like, number four didn't like being in my house. And I'm like, what? And. Or, you know, something, like, she doesn't ever see me or something, and she wanted to come over early. And I'm like, okay. I was like, well, maybe I'm trying to, like, be nice. And I'm like, maybe it's because, like, if you had a. Like, if you lived with your boyfriend or if your boyfriend was always over, she's like, you. He's over every weekend. Every week she's home, and I'm at his house. Every week she's not. And I'm like, oh, oh, okay. Like, I, I. I don't know. I don't care. But then I start thinking, weren't you the one that was, like, someone sleeping 20ft away from my child? I'd want to meet them. I'd introduce you to. To someone that was sleeping 20ft away from her.
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Yeah, she. Someone had said it, I think. She didn't tell me, like, she did, but she told me, like, at, like a. Oh, wait, hold on. I think that's how I found out was. Was in that call. So I actually found out. I Don't know if it was that call or if she said it some. Oh, that's when she said it. She had kept. You know, I was trying to be respectful, so I brought it up, like, hey, like, it was after one of number four's football practice, and I was like, hey, you know, if you want. I don't know how you want to meet Miami, but, like, you know, she's like, oh, you just bring it, you know, I was like. I was like, but if she would, she might want to come watch number four play. And she was like, oh, yeah, I could bring my boyfriend. We could just have, like. We just have like a. Like a big family, right? I'm like,
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can I just. Can I. It is different, dude. I know you know this, but, like, you having. I mean, even just a random chick. Let's just even say it's a random chick. That is completely different than a male who's going to be sleeping under the same roof with your daughter. Like, that's. That's fucking nuts. Even just hanging around.
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Part of me wants to meet him and be like, dude, this whole time I thought you were going to be her old boyfriend, Uncle Buddy. And I only want to say that because I'm sure he's met Buddy, and to know that they hooked up, it's gonna cause some problems.
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How bad does Buddy feel that he still couldn't seal the deal?
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I don't know, dude. And I don't know what to believe, but my mom said he had stopped by and she heard him knock on the door, and she said, like, oh, come in, or whatever. And he came in, she goes, oh, I thought you were pj. And he was like, oh, why, are you expecting him? And she was like, no, I just thought you were himself. And then he was. Man, I really miss my relationship with him. Like, I really miss him. Like, I made such a dumb decision. How much is that is true? I don't know. I mean, she was like, you know, I went in to tell him, like, well, you know, you can't be your best friend's wife and then dating her afterwards and, like. And think that best friend's going to want to hang out with you anymore.
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Yep. That's like, if you're a
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shitty friend, well, you're not going to have any friends. And I was like, did you say that, though?
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Do you have a reason to doubt your mom?
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Oh, okay. I didn't know it was. I didn't know it was that Simple. Yeah. She's a fucking liar. Oh. Oh, okay.
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I'd say she's an embellisher.
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So I don't know what is true. I don't know what it's not. I don't know if she says that to try and, you know, get me to reach out to him, but it ain't happening, player. Ain't happening. I don't have a need for it.
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Tell you a real quick story that, you know, I. I don't. I. It's just the mom thing reminded me of this. So when we were in Oklahoma and we were moving, my. My parents came out for a while and they were pretending to help us move. And my mom was texting my sister about something, and for some reason, she gave me her phone with the text messages to my sister open. And, you know, if you hit the top of the screen on the iPhone, it goes, like, all the way to the oldest messages that are loaded and then, like, loads older ones. And I accidentally hit the top of the screen, and it went. It went to the top of the text messages to my. To my sister. And there's a picture of my living room that she sent my sister. And I looked at it for a second or two. I didn't see any text messages around it. I just saw that it was a picture of my living room. And my mom freaks out, and she rips the phone out of my hands. It just screams no. And I was like, okay. So, you know, again, I'm just like, you know, it's better not to know, like, whatever the fuck that's about. I'm sure they're talking shit on my wife or they're, you know, they're making fun of something. Like, you know, I don't want to know. So my buddy comes over to help me take the TV off of the. The wall mount because I didn't think that I could lift it on my own at that height. So he comes over to help me, and everyone clears out of the house to, you know, go back to the hotel or go get dinner or whatever. And he's looking directly at where that picture was taken. And he goes, I love how there's Magnum condoms just visible in a plastic box right there. And I look at the plastic box, and I'm like, oh, yeah, they're smushed up against the side of the plastic box that you can see through. And I was like, oh, that's what they were talking about in the message decisions this whole time. I thought the worst. I thought, like, you know, they're They're. You know, she took like a picture of my wife or something and. And was making fun of her or something, you know,
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like, look how clean this keeps her house.
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Honestly, it would probably be something like that. It'd probably be like, look how ridiculously OCD she is about this or that or whatever. She's not OCD enough cuz she shoved condoms into the side of a plastic box.
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Anyway, it's not a bad thing though. At least they were magnums. Dude, are you embellishing?
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No, I'm not, dude. We.
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You're. You're hung like that, huh? You're stacking it,
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only hard. I'm nothing to write home about otherwise.
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I mean, like. But it makes sense with your height and, you know, that's good for
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you, bro. So. Gross thing. If you want to know a gross thing, we.
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But I want to ask you a question.
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Have you ever noticed the serial numbers on those Magnum condoms?
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You probably don't roll them up that high. Okay. Go on.
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That was hilarious. You got me. That was. That was cheap, but that got me,
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dude. It's a classic. My mom told me that when I was like, I don't know, seven or eight. Bro, I
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never heard that. I never heard that. Oh,
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dude, I keep that one in the pocket, dude. I don't just throw it out all the time. All week.
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That's funny. So. So the gross thing is my wife and I have only ever used condoms with each other.
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That's weird.
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Prior to our relationship, neither of us had ever used a condom, so she had to. She had to go off her birth control because she had a surgery for endometriosis and they had to put her on a medication for that, that she couldn't be on birth control. So she goes off birth control and we decide we're gonna. We're gonna try condoms. So we just got regular condoms and I would. I couldn't fit in them and like, I shoved myself into it. Dude, is like.
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You look like.
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It was like a. It was like a. A balloon animal filled with concrete. Yeah,
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that's.
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You probably don't roll them down that far, huh? That was good.
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There's a couple. I got a couple. I got a couple. Dude.
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Hit me with another one.
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No, I mean, like, they're all
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like, save
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them. They're all. They're setups. You know that. Like, I don't know them by hand, by. By heart until someone triggers that. Like, if you would ask me last week, like, hey, tell me a condom joke or something, I'VE been like, ah, if I know, man.
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But then when it hits, it's like, oh, yeah. I remember mom used to say that people always laugh,
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Okay, so there's a boyfriend. You haven't met the boyfriend.
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Yeah. And dude, honestly, I don't really give two shits. Like, I told her when she was like, I should meet your girlfriend, said, look, my number one concern are my daughters. Your number one concern is our daughters. I'm pretty sure you're not gonna have some dickhead around them. You could probably bet your sweet ass I'm not gonna have some bitch around them. So I trust your. Your judgment, you know, Like, I told her, I said, I only got eight more years with you. And she was like, now you don't need the rest of your life. I was like, I don't. She's like, you, you. And you
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say it back in her voice.
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You number one, are you guys still talk? I was like, yeah, all the time. Number one's mom. You and number one's mom talk. All still talk. I like, yeah. In fact, they come out, we go on the salt river together, we hang out. Like, they're good. I was like, number one's mom's boy or husband does my taxes. Like, yeah.
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She's just like, well, see, I'm gonna be in your life for the rest of your life. And I was like,
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you don't do taxes.
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Yeah, like, nah, probably not. She was like, what about when we have grandkids and there's holidays? And I was like, ah, you're probably right. I guess so. But. All right, well,
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come to it.
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Yeah, you know, I'll find a workaround. I'm not doing that.
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You could just, you know, switch off holidays.
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Yeah, you know, I'm down for that too, dude. Right now we do, like, the day with. When it's Christmas, because Christmas kind of two days you got even. And, you know, the other day.
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And the main day, I guess. And so you kind of. Same with New Year's, you know, you kind of get the. The best of coper, you know, Best of both worlds, so. But I have a question, man. I've been sharing. Pardon my sharing, but I. I was sharing Miami, your situation. She was just like, something ain't right. I was like, no, like, she can't really be touched by people because hurts her skin. That ain't right. I was like, no, it's. It's real. It's real. He was telling me it's like a real thing. She's like, nah, I was like, babe, she. She was. She hang out a lot of her co workers. I was like, babe, she's a barista. Okay? She does.
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She's a manager, I'll have you know.
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I was like, she does. She does have. She was a teacher. She was a nanny. She has a degree. Like, but, you know, right now she's, you know, she's there with the in laws, and she's, you know, working at a. A chain. And she was like, no, it hurts when he touches her. I was like, yeah, that's what he said. She was like, no, no. What? What is it? What is it? I was like, oh, I don't know. I'll have to ask him. Like, you guys should talk about that on your podcast. What's going on in his marriage. No, you're probably right. You know what, babe? I'm gonna put a pin in that. I'm gonna bring it back up on podcast night.
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Yeah, you're like, go listen to episode 53, episode 25, episode 19. We've covered that a lot. It's. It's fibromyalgia.
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Fibromyalgia. Doubt I'll remember that. I'm just gonna tell people. Yeah, I don't know. She just tells them, don't touch me.
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much. Okay. Okay.
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So you had a story that you wanted to tell me. You were like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna tell you this story, and it's really good. And
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I. I don't know if it's really good. I think it's up your alley for, you know, analyzing people situation.
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My alley. There's not much that's not up my alley. Let's say that there's not much that's not up my alley. Yeah.
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So I met with a friend of mine who has actually, you know, I think
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what she looked like. I
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don't want to. I don't want to tell you yet.
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Oh, okay.
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There's a surprise coming. So this guy
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asked about me. Oh, it's a guy.
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It's a guy. Yeah. Why did you just assume it was a woman? So he's. He's done pretty well the last couple years. He started a business, and, you know, he's done a couple things. He made some really good crypto trades that worked out for him. So I said, hey, I want to take you out to coffee. Let me pick your brain about specifically manufacturing products, because this is what I'm doing. And I just want to know, like, what would you have me avoid? What. What advice would you give me? The thing is that the business is liquidating. So I specifically wanted to know, like, hey, what can I learn from you as far as what not to do with, with the situation? You know, and I'm, I'm really not there yet on scale, but I just wanted to get an idea of, you know, because I, I've worked with him. I wrote some copy for the business about a year ago. So I just knew from, from those meetings that he's, you know, got a pretty good mind for marketing and stuff. And he did give me some pretty good advice on the marketing angle when we talked. But he ended up bringing up, before we kind of got into it, that his wife moved out. And I was like, what, like, what happened all of a sudden? And he's like, well, you know, she's a nurse. She's been working nights for like two years. So she sleeps, you know, like four hours a night. And she's all, you know, stressed out. She's sleep deprived. And with the business failing and, you know, he basically had a falling out with his business partner and they just could not agree on anything. So they decided to part ways. And he briefly was trying to buy the business and run it himself, which I think would have been great because he did all of the legwork for the company in the first place. But they, they couldn't agree to terms and now they're trying to liquidate and they still can't agree to terms and it's just a whole big mess. But with all of that going on with the business and he hasn't had a normal job, quote unquote, for a couple of years now. He, he has made, I think he said, 60 grand in the last year or two selling real estate, and he made a sizable amount of money trading crypto. So he said, I've actually made more than what I sunk into the company just doing those things. So it's not like I've been like a net, you know, loss on our finances the last couple years. Like I, you know, and, and the company actually did okay for a minute. So he basically said, like, she was just fed up with me not having a job and the business failing and all this stuff. So she's moved out and like, she hasn't even told him, like, where she's living. Like she got an apartment, but she hasn't given him the address. So, like, his kids just leave with her for half the week and he doesn't even know where they are. It's a really up situation. And so he basically told me the advice I would give you like, like, we're in very similar situations, you know, like, we're living with
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our. Except for you don't trade crypto and you don't do real estate on the side.
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Yes, we're. Thanks. So we're living. We're living. We're living with our families. We've got kids. We're trying to start businesses. We don't have normal jobs, you know, so it's like, it's a pretty similar situation that we find ourselves in. And so he's trying to get his job back with a union that he was working for or with, however you say that a couple years ago. And he basically told me, like, the advice I would give you on a personal level, like, for the good of your marriage, is get yourself a normal job while you're trying to do this and don't let the situation get to where I've gotten. So when you and I were first talking, you know, we were kind of talking about me finding a job. And then when I mentioned starting a business, we kind of shifted to that. I just want to know logistically and kind of given where we're at with the process, what do you think about that proposal? Do you think it's worth.
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I think that's the wisest decision. The. The wisest. I think a lot of what's going on in your marriage has a lot to do with her view of how you are currently in the situation and responding to it.
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Nah, that's ridiculous because it's been like this the whole time we've been married. But I get what you're saying. I. I don't think it's helping.
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Not getting better. Yeah. Not helping it. But if you were to. If you were to, you know, this is, this is where. This is where it excites me. And it doesn't excite me like in the midst of it, where you're at doesn't excite me, but at the other end of it, it does excite me. And at the thought of it, sometimes it excites me. It's. We do hard. We do this shit that nobody else is gonna put the work in to do. You're the cat's meow. You don't settle and you're settling. That's what I was trying to tell you, like when we first started this two week thing. I feel like you're content with settling right now. And I think, I think, you know, like she, she, one, senses that, but two, that's. That's who you could be, but that's not who you Are so as. As fathers. And this is where I took great pride for years. And this is also where I have great regret for not being able to do it with number one is. Is we get to go to work to provide. We get to come home. We get to be dad. That's the easy part. But we also gotta be husband, and then we gotta find some healthy space. This is what most men don't do. I didn't do it. A healthy space for us where we can go. And I. And. And I know that's why Miami's giving me this. This extra room as my office, because she's like, look, like you need your space to get away and go do your stuff. If you want to write, if you want to, you know, paint, do a podcast, whatever. Like, you need your. Your. Your guy space. I think. I think it's. It's draining at times to do the work and then come home, have to do homework with your kids or take them to football practice. And then as well, like, you know, I. I cook most of the time for. If we cook. And so, you know, if. If she's not like, hey, let's order out. I'm usually trying to cook up something, especially if number four is not here, because my week's not as busy after hours, but it's draining. And then there's little windows where you get to sit down and journal, sit down and write a letter. I have, like, six people I want to write, and I've only been able to knock out one. I'm tiling a room. I was, you know, up to this. To this point. It's draining, dude. But at the end of the day, like, I just. I just want to be. I just. I just want to be the best that I could be. But the best that I could be is sometimes driven by being able to say, I'll outwork you. That's it. That's it. Like, me and Stretch Marks went to the gym once, and I think I talked about this when it. When it. When it actually happened, and he was like, you know, Stretch Marks, let me paint a picture. Stretch Marks looks like he could be an athlete. He has a really good physique, really good workout ethic. Like, goes to the gym every day, runs even. No matter what the weather's like, he'll put on a weighted vest and run. I mean, the guy is just like, it's. It's like his fix. And not to mention he's like 6:2 or something like that. And so he's like, let's go over and flip this tire. Come on. We're doing all these workouts together. He wants to end the day flipping a tire. It's half a tire. It's bolted to the ground. It's on a swivel. So all you got to do is lift up and just toss it up and it rotates. And so he gets on one side and on one side and it's. We're gonna go until. Until you can't. No more. First person that stops, that's when we'll stop some. All right, whatever. So we're flipping it, and I just keep flipping it with him, Flipping it with him. And he's like. He's like, showing fatigue. So I'm like, all right, well, now I cannot show fatigue. So I just keep going. And then he's like, oh, my gosh. Come on, dude. But I'm not going to show him that I'm heavy breathing inside. I'm freaking dying. No, dude. No, dude. I. He stopped. He fell on the ground. He stopped. I went over to his side, flipped it, went back to my side, flipped it. Went over to his side, flipped it. It was. It. It's like, look, dude, there's gonna be hard things in life. Endure. It's a struggle, but just endure. Just. And it. But I. Because I work with them, I have. I have the. The blessing of working with them. I get to press him like that at work. Like, that's what manhood is. There's hard stuff. There's hard stuff. You just gotta know how to maneuver it. And you got not be afraid to just say, all right, I'm gonna go get a job. I'm still going to work on this on the side. Because it is a passion of mine now. It's not just a hobby. It's a passion of mine I actually have. I know this is a product I can push. I know it's a product that changed my life. I'm going to invest in that. So you'll have time for that. And this last week is kind of going to be what it's like when you have a real job. You're not going to have a lot of time to yourself, except for maybe one day a week or one day every two weeks. Best for you to find, though. But I know you can do it. You just. You just see, like, I get your view on things, but you. You have a pretty harsh view. Like, you're kind of an anarchist.
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Yeah. You're like, I'm not give. Like, you do have a. A very good point. I'M not going to work a job that when I die, nothing comes from it like I'm forgotten. I want to do something that is one me and two is passive income that will last forever. So I get that and I love that. But your friend is a great example of what happens if your whole team's not on board with the that.
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Yeah. And like, I'm not opposed to getting a job. Like, I just, that whole thing I said was just about like ultimately what I want to do in life. I do not want to retire at 67, punching out for the last time and then leaving all that behind and, and never gain from it again. You know, obviously I've, I've had, you know, I've worked most, most of my adult life now. So I, you know, I'm not opposed to it. It's just like I don't know what to do in this situation because it's like I would gladly take a cut. You know, my wife makes a little over 70 grand a year right now as a manager. I would gladly go get a job for 50 or 60 if we could just go back to me working and her staying home with the kid.
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That ain't, ain't possible no more, bro. That's not possible. It's, it's. We are in a society unless you stay living at your parents or live in a, a multi family house like you, 6,50,000, especially in California is poverty level.
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Well, what the point of what I'm saying is I want to go back to work in whatever form. I would be willing to take less money than we're currently making if I could just get back into a job and you know, maybe have the opportunity to. You're missing the point. Let me, I'm going to push through. I'm going to power through. If I had even the opportunity to make more than that, I would still rather do that. But that's not even where my wife's at. My wife is not even like concerned about taking less money in. She like, doesn't want to leave her job after all of the training she's received and everything they've invested into her. For sure she's staying in her job one way or the other. I, you know, if I go get a job, then my mom has to watch the kid. My wife does not want that. And I'm not a huge fan of it either, but I'd be willing to do that. So I'm
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not a fan of that. You
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I'm not a fan of that either. And I totally get that all I'm saying is there's probably some young woman in your church, like a teenager that's maybe 17 or 16 that wouldn't mind a little extra cash to just hang out with your kid like someone that's, you know, good hearted and pure. But, and I only say that because you never want the job you go get to just offset the sitter and you're still at like you never worked and your kids see someone else. So. But I also don't think you should settle for something less than what your wife's making. But all I'm saying is you have to, you have to move in some direction to not only the main provision is to get your family out of your, your parents house and the only way that's going to happen is if you both work, unfortunately.
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that's the shitty part about it.
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Yeah, you're right.
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I think that will change your marriage drastically. For her to be able to come home after she worked a hard day.
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It's not, but I appreciate you saying that,
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dude. So, okay, so let's jump back on that. What is up with that?
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I mean, all I can tell you is that there was a time. Now there has not been a time in our marriage where she was not working except when the baby was born and for the first like two years of her life. But there was a time when she had a job where she barely ever had to go into work and pretty much stayed home every day and watched TV and did a little bit of work and still made more money than me. I'll make that note just for anyone who thinks that the universities are good with their money. So there was that time I worked full time and I mean maybe worse. I would actually say like the intimacy and stuff might have even been worse at that time. Like when, when I've been working full time, getting promotions. We're, we're living in a three bedroom house, you know, like living a life that we couldn't have even imagined.
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where do you think no effect
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passion left. What do you think was the cat the, the catalyst for, for it leaving for the love. She
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no shit.
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Yeah, I told you this story on the podcast. She, I mean I literally was like, why did we just stop having sex one day? Like pretty much when we got married. And she said because I went off birth control and the hormones just weren't there anymore.
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Oh, that's right.
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Yeah. So I mean like it's just never been there.
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Hey, has she ever thought about the Pellets. Like, Miami does the pellets. Big country does the pellets. Not that I need to know that, but she was like, I'm on these pellets. I'm like, that's cool. Like, I didn't tell her Miami was first, but.
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What. What is that?
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It's. They put these hormone pellets inside your butt cheek. You'll be able to fill them. Like, I don't know how they do it, but nobody says it hurts. But anyhow, they must numb you. They put them in there, and then that's your hormones. Like, Miami can't keep her hands off of me, bro. She's dying. After, like, the first. Like, the next night when I'm like, cool. This is Relax Night. She's, like, touching. I'm like, maybe we just did last night. Like. Like when we first met. Remember when we first met? And I was like, dude, we're doing it, like, 70 times a day.
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Yes, I remember that.
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Yeah. She had to dial back the pellets because she's like, my sex drive is greater than yours. I'm trying to match your sex drive. So I had to take out pellets. Like, it's what they do to. They're basically like synthetic hormones.
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Yeah. I. I can't imagine her going with something like that. She did mention. And, I mean, this is.
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She'll have. She'll have more energy at work, and she'll be more regulated at work emotionally. Even if she is 100% regulated right now, she'll be more than 100% regulated after the hormones.
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I. I did remember her mentioning. And. And this would probably have to be. This was definitely before the baby, but she was mentioning some kind of. And wish I could remember what it was, but it was, like, some medication for, like, one of her million ailments that she has. And she did, like, mention. And it's also supposed to, like, raise your sex drive. And so I was like, okay, interesting. So, like, you see that as a deficit. Like, you do see that as a problem, but it's almost like there's nothing I can do about it. Like, I need a pill, you know? And then she never. You know, we never talked about it again. And she didn't end up going on it, but. Or she couldn't get it. I don't know. I don't even remember what it was. But so, you know, she's mentioned that
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you block that out, huh? You, like, you take it. You just stuff it down. You're like, I. I don't remember. I didn't like the answer?
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No. I mean, honestly, dude, there's been 25, 30 conversations about medications like that over the years where it's like, I think I have this. I think I should go on this. I think I have this now. I think I should. So, you know, it's all, it's all white noise. I don't remember
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you guys are having these conversations though. That's good. Like, at least you're like,
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we did, we
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did
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four and a half years ago. Sure.
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Yeah. But I mean like, well, I mean like, you know, I don't know, man. Maybe it's not a bad thing to bring it up again. Dude, I don't really see this. I mean, that explains a lot of the reason why she even looks at you the way she does. Like why she kind of just comes in so like, ah, well, this ain't sanitary. All right, well, peace out. You know, is, you know, just. She's probably drained, dude. Like, ah, do some research on the pellets and, and look at the pros and cons before you feed her this.
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Okay?
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I don't have to deal with that because my chick was already on before I got home. You know what I'm saying?
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Yeah.
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So,
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yeah, might be worth, might be worth checking out. I mean,
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but it might help her like even excel more at work because if she comes home and she's kind of like, she's drained anyways, I think just from not having like, just from being emotionally unregulated all day, like the fight against some of your urges, the constant thinking as a manager she might come home, just be like, fuck, bro. But I think all that would change if she had some hormones. I'm not pro hormones. I'm just saying I see the effect of these women around me and they're all saying they got these pellets in their ass.
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Yeah, I mean, I'm not, I'm not really in favor of like, you know, you know, like Ozempic, you know, just like putting something in your body that's not meant to be there to get, you know, a desired result. But at the same time, if you're £600, you're not gonna lose that going for a brisk walk every night after dinner, you know what I mean? So like, if your life's on the line, maybe take the Ozempic, like the side effects there might not be worse, you know, so at the same time, like, she is just so drained and so, you know, in pain and so abnormal in terms of sex drive and emotion and all that. Maybe you know, maybe that would be worth checking out.
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It might, you know, I'm telling you, dude, like, like, sex drive around here is not something that is running out. I mean, like, I'm over here, like, now I'm looking at Cialis and shit, you know, I mean, because I'm like, I. I want to be able to keep up. When she's ready, like,
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yeah.
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I get home and I'm like, I'm tired. And I was talking to a buddy of mine and he was like, oh, yeah, he's like 50. And he was like, yeah, I. I do 5 milligrams. It's real light. He's like, but it just keeps me ready. When she's ready. He's like, it's. I. I don't really. Like, it's not strong. I'm not just walking around. He's like, it's just. He was in. It's nice to just be a little more saluting when you're, when you're, when you're doing it, because,
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yeah,
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I'll salute for a good minute. But then, like, my dude's like, all right, y', all, it's bedtime. Like, I'm gonna. I'm gonna go relax for a little bit. Like, I've been standing tall all day. And then he'll go relax for a little bit. I'm like, all right, let's take a 10 minute break. Let's just get, like, let me get my breath and. Because I get my head. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'll be in there just. And. And she's just going to town, you know? I mean, like, as far as, like, what she's feeling. And then I am so in. Now I'm engaged with her sound. And what I'm feeling inside that cave where I'm like, oh, that's. That's. That's. That's the area right there. And then I lose it because I'm so. I'm not even thinking, this is nice anymore. I'm just like, yep, okay, now do a little twist. Do a little twist. Yeah, there it is. Oh. You know what I mean? Like, live this way. And then all of a sudden it's like, okay, here. Oh, I'm. I'm done. I'm done. And then my mind's thinking about. I'm done. Oh, my gosh. Like, it's getting small. Holy. What's going on? And I'm like, give me two minutes, man. And then I come back. But when I take that little royal honey shoe, I'm like, please just lay down. Go to sleep tonight. Please, please, please. Like, you're. You're throbbing, bro. Come on.
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I. I actually used to think that, like, if you took Viagra, you would just get a boner automatically.
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I did too. That's why I didn't. That's why I never around with it.
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Yeah, I. I was like, well into my 20s when I learned that it just makes it, like, easier if you do get aroused.
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Yeah. So my uncles would always give me a Viagra when we would do coke. And I'm like, yeah, I'm good on the Viagra because I thought the same thing. Like, oh, I'm just gonna be walking around with hard on.
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Yeah.
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Well, then one night. One night I did enough coke that, like, I was up for three days, dude. I went to work on day two. I called in on day one, went to work on day two. They were like, what is going on with you? I was like, what do you mean? They're like, you. You look like. Like you're on something. I was like, told you I've been sick. Like, I'm sick. And they're like, yeah, go home. So I took day three off. I didn't sleep any of those days. And I had women come over and we'd mess around and I couldn't get hard. That's when I realized this is why they take the Viagra, because coke makes you soft. Good luck keeping a heart on with some after you get some booger sugar. You know what I'm saying?
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Another in a long list of reasons to avoid the booger sugar. I remember, I
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don't mess around with it, dude.
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We were talking about my dad doing drugs on his mail route. And it's literally like lunchtime. It's just like my parents and I at a restaurant eating lunch, and they're just having this conversation about, like, oh, yeah. And I would get this stuff from that guy. You know, sometimes I take it right there, like on the job so I could work better or whatever. And then he just. He just hits us with this. He's just. One time someone gave me a Viagra and I was like, well, you know, what the fuck? Like, I'll take pretty much anything. So I took it. I took it on my mail route, and my mom is just like, why would you take. Take it while you're working? And he was like, I mean, so what? I've got a boner at work for eight hours. Like, what does it matter? She goes, oh, yeah? Why the fuck would you ever bring it home and use it at home. And then I said, check, please, because, you know, what else are you gonna end on?
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Dude, Your dad is hilarious, bro. Because he used to tell me those stories. He'd be like, oh, yeah, Well, I have this rotten. You know, sometimes this guy just comes on. He's like, hey, let me do something. That's exactly how he talks. He's like, sure, why not? You know, he's so nonchalant about it, but then he gets, like, his, like, little mischievous kind of, like, tone where he, like, leans into you. You know what I mean? And he's like, yeah. So, like, this. This one guy, he was giving, you know, and he starts, like. And he starts telling you real low, and you're like, this guy. And it's off the wall that you're like, you're. You're like, either. You're either a really good comedian or something tells me you did this.
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I. You know, I. I think he's got some wild stories, but I think he embellishes a lot for a joke.
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Yeah, but
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I think if. I think if it's. I think if it's drugs, you can pretty much take it to the bank. I think. I think those stories are real.
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Yeah. Let me tell you. Let me ask you. Let me. Let me tell you this, man. So we go to the wedding. The. The wedding. And in between the reception, we stop off at the only place open at this time on a Saturday, which was some dive bar. We walk in, there's two people. By time we left, there was maybe six. And. And my boss, who shall rename remain nameless. He. He's. We're playing pool, and he looks over and he goes, we're talking about darts. And he goes, oh, yeah. Darts are, like. Once you, like, you just pick them up and, like, you know, like, you know what to do with them. And I'm like, not necessarily. I was like, I know a lot of people that pick up darts and they throw them right at the wall. I was like, it's like when you pick up darts and you train properly. You train enough. And he was like, yeah, exactly. And he goes, you see that guy over there by the door? He goes. He goes, from the holster, I could grab and pop two in him. Just any. Like, he. He started, like, mimicking it, you know, like, just, papa, Papa. And I was like, I bet you could. He was like, oh, yeah. And all of a sudden, like, I saw him in a different light, and. And I looked at him and I was like, something tells me when you were in the military, like, you always tell me that PDF has, like, more stories than you. Worse stories than you. And he's never served. He just built stuff over in Afghanistan. But you served and built stuff in Afghanistan. I was like, so I feel like you did more in the military than you're leading on to. And he was. He. He, like, looked at me and he was just like, do you. And he, like, smiled, and I was like, yeah, I actually do. And so then, like, today we're talking about this. We're in our meeting fast forward. We're in our meeting today at the office, and there was some. We're talking about, like, one of these architects that keeps, like, fucking not answering his phone and fucking. Fucking up shit. And. And he goes. And we use them, like, as part of our company, like when we do a design build. And he's like. He was. Honestly, dude, he was. I could kill that. He goes. And he, like, said it like three times. Like, I could kill that. And he looks at me and he, like, looks at. At PDF and he goes, no, serious, I could kill that. And I'm like, now, mind you, I automatically go back to Saturday at the bar when he says that. And I'm like, yep, I think he could.
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Yep.
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Like, I think, you know, when they say humble is power under control, humility, I think that's what I kind of see most in how he acts. There are times where he gets, like, a little. Little arrogant, like when we talk about basketball, and he's like, oh, yeah, you know, watch, I'm on beach. You don't know, boy. But when it comes to how he engages with people, like, he will give you 30, 30 retakes before he fires you. You know, he's just not someone that's like, gonna go fire someone. You know, you can. You could mess up 30 times before he's like, hey, we gotta part ways, you know?
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Yeah.
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I don't know, man. But,
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yeah, it's. It's
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weird. I think he's killed people.
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It's. It's weird when you come across people who, like, they're never right out with it. Yeah. There was a guy at our church at Reverence that you. You may have known him, I'm sure you met him at some point, but he never talked about it at all. And he wasn't in this. In military or whatever he was doing, but multiple people told me, like, yeah, we have no idea what that guy used to do, but, like, he has killed people. He's been on, like, secret missions. Like, you know, like, he's. He's done some wild shit.
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Is his daughter a gymnut?
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I don't know. He had a. He had a big curly mustache.
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Oh, it's the curly mustache guy.
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Well, there were two and the older one was a pastor. The younger one, I mean, he was still probably in his 50s or 60s, but he. Yeah, he like invented things for medical companies. That was like what he was doing then. But he had been like. It was strongly alluded that he was in the CIA. No one ever, no one ever said it, but that was kind of the vibe that I was picking him up on. And
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yeah, we, we refer to that. It's funny because people will be like, oh, yeah, you know, like our clients, military people, and then certain three letter government agencies. Which I've said. And I've said that because you hear it so much at these, these in these client builds when they're like. And certain three letter government agencies, you're just like, why don't you. So we all kind of know what you're saying. You're making my brain do. It's simple math, but it's still having to work harder than it should right now. You know what I mean?
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Yeah. Well, it could, we
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all know what you're talking about.
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It could be the nsa, atf, FBI, they all around. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And then I, I know this one vet dude, this guy. This is kind of the other side of it where, like, it's not like fun stories. He. I've never gotten him to talk about it, but he, he signed up for the Marine Corps in July of 2001, and he was like among the first people to land in Afghanistan. And he has terrible ptsd and he won't be around kids. Like, like, he just. If you, if, if it's an event with like kids around, he is like avoiding them. He won't come around to like, you know, family members, birthday parties, stuff like. And, and someone in the family told me that like. Yeah, when they first landed in Afghanistan, they were grabbing kids off the street and using them as shields to try to get people to not shoot at them. And they shot him. It's like, fuck, dude. You just like, you grabbed a kid and someone just gunned it down, like in your arms. Like, that's fucking nuts.
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Yeah. So he was shooting the natives as the natives were holding kids.
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No, he was grabbing kids to try to not be shot by the natives and the natives still shot him.
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Oh. Oh, that's.
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Yeah. And
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why was he grabbing kids then?
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Because they're trying not to get shot. But, you know they
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didn't. What do you expect, bro? If they're shooting, Was it multiple kids, or did he, like, after the first one, be like, I shouldn't be doing this?
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I. I got the impression that that was just the operating procedure until they gained enough ground to, like, secure an area. But I don't know for sure. But, yeah, he saw a lot of kids die, let's put it that way.
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That's crazy.
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Yep.
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That's crazy. I used to have friends who. Their dad would have had ptsd, and he would wake up on the couch and just go haywire, like, jump behind it, you know, look for, like, grenades. He's like. Like total flashbacks.
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Yeah.
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But it. It wasn't. You know, it might have been like, Desert Storm time, because I think I was in, like, my. My late. No, early 20s when. When. When, like, the kids were like, dude, yeah, we gotta go. Our dad's, like, tripping out right now. Or they'd come over crying because, like, they had to leave because their dad's, like, not settling down.
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Yep. He's crazy. He's swatting at things only he can see.
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Yeah. Yeah. They'd say, like, he. He would act like he's throwing grenades and then hide behind the couch,
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dude. Yeah, that's. That's kind of a weird one. Like, my cousin was in Desert Storm. He never indicated to me that anything crazy happened over there. Kind of.
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That's why I thought this guy might have been in Vietnam. Instead.
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Maybe there
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wasn't a lot of trench warfare.
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That's. That's only like 15 years separated from Desert Storm.
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Yeah. And I never met the dad. I only heard the stories when they would come over, like,
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yeah,
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like, we had to get out of the house, you know, Like.
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Yeah.
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And I'm like, what kind of PTSD does this do have? And they were like, he is like, he woke up off the couch, like, fucking freaking out and then jumped behind the couch and was, like, acting like he was throwing grenades and he was yelling and she was like, we. We don't know how to deal with that.
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01:36:03.000 --> 01:36:16.000
Yeah, get the. Get the net. I love how, like, the. The whole plot of Jarhead. Have you ever seen that movie?
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Yeah. Oh, yeah.
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Basically the plot is that he wanted to kill people in. In Iraq, and then, like, the whole war ended up being, like, nothing, and he never got to kill anyone.
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I'm not gonna lie, dude. I mean, like, that's when. When 9, 11 happened, like, for sure. I was like, I'm going to sign up. And my mom just begged me not To. But I was. I wanted to. Like, I. I wanted to so bad.
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Yeah, I'm glad you didn't. But, you know, it. It's interesting, I think, about that, like, how united we were as a country and how many people went to sign up. I think 9, 11. Happens today. Kids.
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We're all over that shit.
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Kids in Texas are not gonna go die because of something that happened in New York City. Not today.
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I think there's going to be a similar event. For sure. I do. I don't know where.
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I can tell you where.
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I'm not saying it's. Do we. I guess, go for it?
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It's the Citibank building in Los Angeles.
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Yeah. Okay. So I heard that as well.
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Yeah,
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but I mean, like, it's that or it would. They said, like, New York. I don't think they're gonna hit New York again, though, because they said, like, three major cities. One was Los Angeles, one was New York, and I want to say the other one was Miami, but make it look like once again, that it's from some other country that Israel has an issue with.
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Yeah, I don't know, dude. I just. I don't know if they could pull it off. Like, I don't know if the. If the will is there, even if they do pull it off, but it's like, dude, I just
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think they're putting much thought into them anymore, bro.
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Well, that's the thing. Like, are they thinking about that? Are they thinking about, like, how Haywire the Charlie Kirk thing went and then thinking, like, can we actually get away with this again in. In 2026? You know? And, like, there's got to be people in those meetings saying, you can't pull this off again, dude. Like, there's gonna be a million videos from a million point of views that are gonna show what this thing actually is, you know,
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for sure. That's. That's the real thing. The real thing is when Charlie Kirk happened, they were like, oh, shit. Like, people are on to us. Like, holy fuck. Like, and they know it's us because we did the pager trick. Remember the pager trick that we were so happy about?
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Yep.
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And then we did this, and people are honest. I remember, like, week one, somebody was like, that thing's coming from the microphone. Everybody was like, not ain't no. It ain't no. Ain't coming from the microphone. That's ridiculous. All these, like, podcasters and other videos were coming on. It's not from the. And then all of a sudden, it's like, yeah, it's the microphone.
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Yeah,
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like, that dude was right from, like, week one. And you guys over here, like, nodding the microphone and. And now that we know it's the microphone, they were like, holy. Dude, he was. He was very outspoken about us. And, yeah, we did that. And dude, like, all the videos out there, the dude. We didn't kill the ring cameras in the area before we did this. No, we didn't. We ain't got that kind of. Okay. All right, let's get some. Some high school graphic designers on this. Have them have somebody run across the roof.
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Yeah,
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don't worry about shadows. Just
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make that guy skinny.
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Yeah, they see it and they're like, we forgot about shadows. We didn't. We didn't. We didn't even catch it in the review.
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Yeah.
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So it's kind of on us, you know? Like, it's. Yeah.
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Also, we forgot that he was supposed to have the gun when he jumped off the roof.
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Yeah. And so their whole thing is, I think if they hit us, the first hit has to be electronically. Has to wipe out towers.
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Now that would be smart
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to do. That's that. Look, will
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phone still work off?
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Happens. I want to cut if this happens, because, you know, they're tapping our shit by now.
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Sure,
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I want to cut. Guys, whoever's recording this, I'm cool with just a cut. Just couple meal. I know you guys got it. All right, here we go. So they're going to have to hit the electric, electrical somehow, where we don't get phones, and it might not happen for a couple days so that they could kill the batteries. So if they kill power grids, we can't charge our phones except for off the generators. That's now a very select few people really just rednecks. So don't bomb anything near redneck country. Just. Then strike. Then you strike, and you're like, then power comes back on because we can restore it after a couple months. And it's all, I don't know, Russia or Palestine or some bullshit. Mm.
465
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Yeah, I think. I don't even know it would be Iran. It could be Russia. I'm not even sure. Like, it's weird that I have a feeling something's coming, but I can't even tell who they're gonna pin it on because there's, like, a couple good candidates. There's a couple of things they're trying to get going right now. Turkey. Turkey's also a big one. Like, they. They've never really talked about Turkey before, but as soon as the Iran thing kicked off, they Started talking about Turkey, about how, like, turkey is going to be the next threat stuff. So it's
466
01:42:10.000 --> 01:42:16.000
like, it's. Whoever. Whoever is real is really pissed off at.
467
01:42:16.000 --> 01:42:18.000
Yeah.
468
01:42:18.000 --> 01:42:37.000
Hey, what's your take on AI? I watched this documentary and you just kind of brought up something that triggered a thought for me. What's your take on AI? What's. Where's the future of it going?
469
01:42:37.000 --> 01:43:34.000
I am pretty uncertain about that. I don't really believe in AI. There's, like, not really such thing as AI yet, and maybe it's impossible. You know, what we call AI is just basically like a really, really powerful spell check that's like predicting words and stringing sentences together. So, like, I get that it's capable of, like, replacing a lot of jobs and taking over a lot of infrastructure and stuff, but all these fears about it hacking into the nuclear weapons and stuff, I just. I don't know if any of that's possible unless it was programmed to do that and given access to that stuff stuff. And I just don't see people doing that. But that's just.
470
01:43:34.000 --> 01:46:45.000
Okay. So there's. There's two types of AI. There's the AI that you basically train. You have somebody watch it and you say, no, that was wrong. The, you know, like, picture of a dog. Here's some of the main points of a dog. Here's a picture. Yeah. Study that. Know it now, you know, and they're basically, like, guiding them. So they're dictating them in some way. Then there's AI that like, we use almost every day now. Chat, GPT, Anthro. Anthropic. Anthropic. Not anthropic. Anthropic. Claude. You know, all these different platforms. Gemini. And. And so I'm watching this documentary and this guy's like, I don't know what AI is. So he starts interviewing the experts in the field, both critics and like, the leading people, designers. And so he's talking to this, like, lead guy that's in the industry. And the lead guy, he goes, hey, I'm having a baby. Which is why I did this documentary. Would you have a baby in this current, like, weather of AI? And the guy was like, I, in another life, I'd like to have a kid. He goes, but I have engineers on staff that know that their kids, their current kids will not see high school. So any shared. He shared a couple, not him, but another guy that they were interviewing shared a story. And so anthropic. First of all, they put a code into one of the AIs that had it solving a problem and then the code was to shut it down halfway through. So the machine is running the problem, sees the code to stop, rewrites the code to keep going and solve the problem. And it does. Anthropic had a, like a beta version out and they gave it access to its, its companies, like, what is it called? Intranet. And so it gave it access to the company's Internet and it started sifting. And they did that first of all, they did that so it would learn how people talk and stuff. And it picked up in the emails that they were going to have a revision and make like a anthropic 2.0. And so what this thing did was it sifted through. It got into the emails of the lead engineer's personal emails and found out that he was having an affair and then sent him an email saying, if you do what you're going to do, I'm going to expose your affair.
471
01:46:45.000 --> 01:46:51.000
So I've heard that that's not what happened. And
472
01:46:51.000 --> 01:46:53.000
I'm only saying what they said in the video.
473
01:46:53.000 --> 01:47:19.000
Yeah. And I don't have any, any better reason to believe what I've heard than that. But what I've heard happened was that they did program it to survive by any means necessary and that it made up the affair and was sending emails about it or it like fabricated the emails about the affair to like use. Oh,
474
01:47:19.000 --> 01:47:20.000
that's even better, dude.
475
01:47:20.000 --> 01:47:53.000
It's, it's kind of, it's kind of crazier. But again, it only did what it was prompted to do. And that's just not as crazy of a story as like how they've presented that. But here's kind of where the conspiracy kicks in for me. All the big CEOs of the big AI companies now are like lobbying to get heavy regulations on AI and I think that's what the whole game plan has been.
476
01:47:53.000 --> 01:48:12.000
Okay, so in all fairness, I didn't watch the whole documentary. I'm only halfway through. But that is what the critics are also saying. Like there needs to be a limit on this. Like, because if we don't. Yes. We're going to create something that we won't be able to stop.
477
01:48:12.000 --> 01:48:29.000
Well, there's where the conspiracy comes in. Because like, so here's the thing. Why does Walmart lobby the government for. To make minimum wages and to like raise the minimum wage.
478
01:48:29.000 --> 01:48:31.000
To me that's pr.
479
01:48:31.000 --> 01:48:32.000
It's pr, but.
480
01:48:32.000 --> 01:48:34.000
And it's, and it's a write off.
481
01:48:34.000 --> 01:48:47.000
It's, it's also that. But they can Pay those higher wages and choke out the smaller companies like other, other companies aren't going to be able to abide by those regulations.
482
01:48:47.000 --> 01:48:51.000
Oh, see, I see that as a low wage. So you're saying that as a high wage.
483
01:48:51.000 --> 01:48:56.000
Yeah, they've lobbied for 15, $20 minimum wages, like nationwide.
484
01:48:56.000 --> 01:48:58.000
Yeah, because mom and pop shops can't fucking.
485
01:48:58.000 --> 01:49:51.000
Exactly. So now that all of the major CEOs of these big AI companies are all of a sudden all coming out simultaneously saying we need regulations on this stuff. And I mean, it's like Sam Altman, it's the, what's that other one? The frickin. The one my dad talks about all the time. I don't know. But like all the big guys that run these companies are all kind of talking about how, how dangerous it is and how we need these regulations. And now at least a lot of, a lot of the people I'm listening to are now saying, oh, I think that's what this is. I think the dangers of this has always been propaganda. And, and now you're using that propaganda to say, hey, we need to make sure there's laws so that no one can compete with us.
486
01:49:51.000 --> 01:49:52.000
I can see that.
487
01:49:51.000 --> 01:49:52.000
Yeah,
488
01:49:52.000 --> 01:49:57.000
I can see that. I haven't watched the end of that documentary, so I don't know where it goes. It could go there.
489
01:49:57.000 --> 01:50:14.000
Yeah. And also, I'm not even saying you're wrong. That's just what I've heard, because I did hear that story when it first happened and it sounded pretty crazy, but then I heard later that it actually was programmed to survive by any means. I think
490
01:50:14.000 --> 01:51:38.000
it's also different. I think it's also different working in a company where you've allowed AI in, you know, because they do make Those, those, those AIs that read through all your emails and they sort your emails and they tell you what's most important and what's junk and they'll delete the ones that come in every day that you don't really care about. And so like, I think it's a little different because like when I use AI, I'm like, hey, does this guy work for like fit? Is he a good fit for our company? And it'd be like, well, if you're this, yes. If you're this, yes. And I'm like, you know what we do? Like I've, we've talked about this in other, in other like chats. And then it'll say, let me go review that first. And then it goes and reviews old chats and it comes back and you'll say like, no, he's not a good fit. Because X, Y and Z. Now, I think for us companies that don't allow it access, it has a certain not limit, but almost a automatic reset unless you tell it to go do something. Or if it was like in your company, you're like, hey, I'm giving you access to everything. I think that's more or less the dangerous part of, of, of it.
491
01:51:38.000 --> 01:51:39.000
Yeah.
492
01:51:39.000 --> 01:51:44.000
Even if it's on small shit where it reorganizes shit that you didn't necessarily want reorganized.
493
01:51:44.000 --> 01:52:09.000
Yeah. And I think that's kind of where the line is gonna come down to is like, well, yeah, if someone gives it access to the nukes, then we could have a massive problem on our hands. Sure. You know, but like, maybe we just don't do that. Maybe it just sorts our emails and gives us story ideas like, why. Why do we have to go beyond what we're doing?
494
01:52:09.000 --> 01:52:27.000
What if it's a planned slow de evolution? You know what I mean? Like, they rely so much on it. Dumb them down till that's all they know.
495
01:52:27.000 --> 01:52:28.000
Mm.
496
01:52:27.000 --> 01:52:38.000
You just take it to the point where they rely on it and their phones so much that when we kill it, they know nothing.
497
01:52:38.000 --> 01:52:53.000
Yeah. I could kind of. Well, you know, I've also heard people say that it's an evolution that like we created this thing and it's going to make all of us live longer and be more powerful and stuff. So it's, it's almost like our next.
498
01:52:53.000 --> 01:52:56.000
Yeah, but it, it dies the moment we kill Power.
499
01:52:56.000 --> 01:52:59.000
Yes.
500
01:52:59.000 --> 01:53:17.000
It, like that's, that's, it's, it's, it's contingent on that where we can evolve without power. We're self sustaining. Like, yeah, we do need food and. But we also are the ones that like, it couldn't pull our power. We could pull its power. So we're still top of the pyramid.
501
01:53:17.000 --> 01:53:37.000
Yeah. Yeah. And like we've also evolved, so to speak, to the point of not really having to worry about power. Like, we've got pretty reliable power now, you know, So I don't know. Maybe this thing doesn't really go away unless something catastrophic happens.
502
01:53:37.000 --> 01:53:38.000
Yeah.
503
01:53:38.000 --> 01:53:39.000
But
504
01:53:39.000 --> 01:54:26.000
that's one. That's one thing. Like, that's, that's how we would have to kill it. And then by then we, we're so dumbed down that we're like, how we live off the land. Where's Burger King and Burger King's? We ain't got no burgers we can't sell. We don't even know how to do math. You just gave me a 20. Your meals. 14, 16. Just give me 14, 16. You're like, just do the math. You ever meet kids like that? You go to, like, McDonald's and you give them cash instead of card, and they're like, you. They. They know the dollars. They get to that change, though, and they're like, oh, he's gonna need three quarters. Why do I got nine pennies? Stop talking. I'm trying to
505
01:54:26.000 --> 01:54:31.000
count one.
506
01:54:31.000 --> 01:54:45.000
I'm. That, though. That rolls up, and I already have the math figure. You know what I mean? Like, as soon as it hits, I'm like, okay, that's a. Cool. That's a. That's a complete number. What's the. Where do I get to 100? Okay, cool. And then as they're kind, I say, it's just 86 cents, bro. Just. Just give me 86 cents.
507
01:54:45.000 --> 01:54:46.000
Yeah,
508
01:54:46.000 --> 01:54:52.000
you know what? Just give me the ones back. Save yourself the heartache.
509
01:54:52.000 --> 01:55:24.000
I. I had one cashier, my change was going to be 99 cents. And I don't know if they just got confused or what, but they asked me, do you want it? And I said, 99 cent. Yeah. What do you mean? And I think they were so used to, like, if the change is a penny, they'll like, ask if you want the penny. But, like, it was. It was almost a full dollar, and they were like, do you want that?
510
01:55:24.000 --> 01:55:31.000
Well, here's part of it now, I think also I'm a guy that doesn't want to change. What am I going to do with change?
511
01:55:31.000 --> 01:55:32.000
Yeah,
512
01:55:31.000 --> 01:55:53.000
I'm gonna put it in the center console, and it's never going to get used. That's true. Until that one time I want to go on a machine or get a gum or something. And then I'm like, I don't have no change, but I'm a guy, like, when, wherever I'm at, if I buy, if I have to pay with cash, I'm like, just give me the dollars back. Like, give me all the bills back. Keep the change. I don't want to walk around with it.
513
01:55:53.000 --> 01:56:01.000
Yeah, I respect that. This was, like, 10 years ago. I probably wouldn't take the change now, but
514
01:56:01.000 --> 01:56:03.000
I think you would.
515
01:56:03.000 --> 01:56:04.000
I might.
516
01:56:04.000 --> 01:56:05.000
I think you would, because
517
01:56:05.000 --> 01:56:06.000
still have a chance. Grocery
518
01:56:05.000 --> 01:56:09.000
bags are like a quarter out there, aren't they?
519
01:56:09.000 --> 01:56:11.000
What?
520
01:56:11.000 --> 01:56:13.000
Grocery bags?
521
01:56:13.000 --> 01:56:16.000
Yeah, I think they're 10 cents. Five.
522
01:56:16.000 --> 01:56:17.000
Okay.
523
01:56:17.000 --> 01:56:18.000
Cents.
524
01:56:17.000 --> 01:56:26.000
They're a quarter. I think in. I think they might be 10 cents in. In Maryland, dude. I was like, what the Are you guys doing this? Is California.
525
01:56:26.000 --> 01:56:27.000
Yeah. There were
526
01:56:26.000 --> 01:56:36.000
like, you want to back for them? Like, yeah, I want to back for that. They're like, okay, beep beep. I'm like, whoa, you're charging me for that? No, we, we could carry these. This, this off.
527
01:56:36.000 --> 01:57:22.000
Dude. The. When that first got implemented here, the number of times I walked out of a store, like struggling to hold all of the. I bought cuz I just out of principle was not gonna buy the bag. Like, I remember I was at Target one time and I had like a hand cart full of stuff and. Or a basket. And the lady came up to me at the self checkout and she's like, oh, do you need a bag? And I was like, nah, I'm good. I'm not getting the bag. And she's like, oh, well, the basket stays here. So, so I left. I just, I was in the middle of ringing shit up. I just left it all there. I walked out.
528
01:57:22.000 --> 01:57:25.000
I can't, I can't have the basket. Yeah, fuck you, lady.
529
01:57:25.000 --> 01:57:39.000
I was, I was just gonna put the stuff in the car and then bring the basket back. But like they obviously caught onto that pretty early in the whole ordeal, so they had to start making sure no one left with a basket.
530
01:57:39.000 --> 01:57:50.000
Well, that's the issue is like, you know, people were like, I'm not paying for no bag. I'm. I'm showing carry out the car. I'll be back. And they get to the car, I'm like, I'm not going back. I'm putting this in my car. Like it is.
531
01:57:50.000 --> 01:58:10.000
Yep. I never would have done that because filthy. But then I just started getting a full sized basket. Just. Even if I was gonna get four things, I would just get the full sized basket because you can't stop me from taking that out. Everyone has to take those out.
532
01:58:10.000 --> 01:58:13.000
Your, your, your, your cart boy could. Thank you.
533
01:58:13.000 --> 01:58:35.000
Yeah. Did you ever have a thing like I don't know what this was. I don't know what happened, but there was a time I was leaving Target with a cart and something happened to it where it like died as if it was battery powered. Like
534
01:58:35.000 --> 01:58:37.000
the wheel locked up. They got a wheel lock.
535
01:58:37.000 --> 01:58:41.000
What the happened?
536
01:58:41.000 --> 01:58:47.000
So if you pass a certain line, it's usually for places like Target. Way far out in the parking lot.
537
01:58:47.000 --> 01:58:51.000
No, but it's like still near the door.
538
01:58:51.000 --> 01:59:02.000
But like Dollar Tree and shit. They are basically. And, and Ross places like that, they, they're like right at, right at the door.
539
01:59:02.000 --> 01:59:03.000
Okay.
540
01:59:02.000 --> 01:59:12.000
Like you get, you get to the sidewalk and it locks up and it's Basically because people walk off with the cards. Yeah, they.
541
01:59:12.000 --> 01:59:18.000
So. So it just malfunctioned when I was still close to the store.
542
01:59:18.000 --> 02:00:01.000
They do that too. That's why you also see like a. You go up and you think like, oh, cool, there's plenty of carts here. They got four rows. No, they got three. That fourth row is all the carts that will's locked up. That's why they're kind of not a big thing anymore. They used to be. I think if you go to lower income areas, you'll see them more now, or not more now, but you'll see them more frequently than everywhere else. But. But some companies, like Nationwide did that. And I honestly think going through, like a burp session, I honestly think it became more of a financial headache than anything.
543
02:00:01.000 --> 02:00:02.000
Yeah.
544
02:00:02.000 --> 02:00:04.000
Than anything else. Oh, man.
545
02:00:04.000 --> 02:00:06.000
It was a headache to me. Got
546
02:00:06.000 --> 02:00:07.000
the hiccups,
547
02:00:06.000 --> 02:00:09.000
can tell you that.
548
02:00:09.000 --> 02:00:12.000
Yeah. You know what I hate? I hate Aldi's.
549
02:00:12.000 --> 02:00:13.000
What happens? That's
550
02:00:13.000 --> 02:00:14.000
what I
551
02:00:13.000 --> 02:00:14.000
hate. Oh, the quarters.
552
02:00:14.000 --> 02:00:28.000
Oh, yeah. Like, you can't even go up and scan your, like, credit card. You're going to make me go find a quarter to have a grocery basket? Like, what the, dude.
553
02:00:28.000 --> 02:00:29.000
Yeah,
554
02:00:29.000 --> 02:00:41.000
that. And then you get in there and they're like, oh, no, we don't provide bags. You provide boxes. No, no, you got to bring your own. You're like, oh, dude, this is even the real.
555
02:00:41.000 --> 02:01:08.000
All you got to do. Wait, let me do the math on this. I might be wrong. All you got to do is just bring channel cutters and just cut one of the chains off and then just get that one out with a quarter and you've just got the thing for life. You can just always use that to get the. The thing unlocked.
556
02:01:08.000 --> 02:01:12.000
I don't. I don't even want to go there because it's like that. Like, I'm good.
557
02:01:12.000 --> 02:01:13.000
Sure.
558
02:01:13.000 --> 02:01:15.000
Give me the real Captain Crunch. Yeah, okay.
559
02:01:15.000 --> 02:01:16.000
Yeah, the
560
02:01:16.000 --> 02:01:17.000
one with that doesn't say.
561
02:01:17.000 --> 02:01:18.000
It's not even that great.
562
02:01:18.000 --> 02:01:21.000
I want the one capping.
563
02:01:21.000 --> 02:01:37.000
It's. It's okay. I found some good stuff there. Like, since I started my diet in June, I haven't even been able to go there because, like, the best thing you're gonna find is, like a Cheez it flavor that you can't find anywhere else. You know,
564
02:01:37.000 --> 02:02:14.000
I'm not gonna lie, dude. Like, they had some cool shit there. Like my, like, tray to set out. Chips and salsa I got from there. Like, I got a bunch of from there. But that was also the day I learned that you got to carry all Your own out, and you got to pay a quarter. Yeah, somebody had a quarter, so that was cool. And then the bag thing, I was like, you guys, dude, like, you're gonna make me carry this gourmet tray up flights of stairs unbagged? Like, get out of here. That's so many trips.
565
02:02:14.000 --> 02:02:39.000
Yeah. It's ridiculous. I will. Often, if I'm in self checkout, I'll bag it up, hit zero bags. I don't give a. If it was, like, the store policy, I wouldn't mind, but because it's like a tax thing. Nah. As as often as possible. I'm not giving them that.
566
02:02:39.000 --> 02:02:41.000
I'm spoiled because we don't have that here.
567
02:02:41.000 --> 02:02:52.000
Yeah, we didn't have it in Oklahoma when I moved out, but they had, like, just implemented it when I left, so it's coming for everyone.
568
02:02:52.000 --> 02:02:56.000
Oh, all right, my man.
569
02:02:56.000 --> 02:03:01.000
It's about that time. Thank you. Oh, we didn't introduce the show, did we?
570
02:03:01.000 --> 02:03:02.000
Never. Let's
571
02:03:02.000 --> 02:03:05.000
just not do it anymore.
572
02:03:05.000 --> 02:03:07.000
You know what I mean? You guys know who you. You're listening to
573
02:03:07.000 --> 02:03:10.000
right now, episode 63.
574
02:03:10.000 --> 02:03:12.000
Yeah, get with it.
575
02:03:12.000 --> 02:03:17.000
We got. We got the big 75 coming up. We should do something special.
576
02:03:17.000 --> 02:03:19.000
We really should. Let's think about that.
577
02:03:19.000 --> 02:03:22.000
Yeah. Episode 100. Ooh.
578
02:03:22.000 --> 02:03:25.000
Maybe we could do, like, a reunion with number one.
579
02:03:25.000 --> 02:03:28.000
Absolutely. And then
580
02:03:28.000 --> 02:03:41.000
if she's not able to make it, at least, like, maybe because she could call in and do her own recording, but at least maybe create some. Some topics. You know what I'm saying?
581
02:03:41.000 --> 02:04:01.000
Yeah. Yeah, we need. We need more fodder. Let's get back to a good. A good topic list and, like, hot takes and stuff like that. Yeah, we should have Miami and my wife on, even though they'll never be able to hear it.
582
02:04:01.000 --> 02:04:02.000
Nope, I'm good.
583
02:04:02.000 --> 02:04:05.000
No, just.
584
02:04:05.000 --> 02:04:07.000
If you want to try it, we could try it.
585
02:04:07.000 --> 02:04:15.000
Just to talk about their experience of, like, having to deal with the podcast without ever being able to hear it.
586
02:04:15.000 --> 02:04:18.000
No, dude. Because that's just going to provoke curiosity.
587
02:04:18.000 --> 02:04:24.000
That's what would make it a good episode. It'd be like. It'd be like couples
588
02:04:24.000 --> 02:04:30.000
therapy. Nope. You have nothing to lose. I got everything to lose. Nope.
589
02:04:30.000 --> 02:04:33.000
Okay, that was a bit harsh.
590
02:04:33.000 --> 02:04:43.000
No, no, you're like. I'm just saying, like. Like, you're like, well, we're not gonna have sex for, like, two months. That ain't. You don't have to worry about that.
591
02:04:43.000 --> 02:04:45.000
That's not an issue here,
592
02:04:45.000 --> 02:04:57.000
you know? Yeah, I'm over here. Like, hey, it'd be two months down the road. We'll be on episode 120. Yeah. You'll be like, hey, so how's your. Your week been? I'd be like, it's been fucking my nuts.
593
02:04:57.000 --> 02:05:04.000
This podcast is between the cane and the podcast. I think she's gonna divorce me.
594
02:05:04.000 --> 02:05:09.000
Yeah, My nets are swollen. They're sort of touch. Yeah. You know,
595
02:05:09.000 --> 02:05:14.000
dude, I. I remember. I know you're tired and you're trying to go, but I remember.
596
02:05:14.000 --> 02:05:15.000
No, I'm
597
02:05:14.000 --> 02:05:56.000
jj Because I play it on the worship team in the youth room, the youth group. And when JJ and I would do something, you know, edgy, when we. You know, when we drink before church or have a cigarette or something. If there was ever a risk, and I feel like shit for this. I really do, but, like, if there was ever a risk of us getting. Of us getting caught for anything, I would literally tell him, like, I kind of have something to lose here, buddy. Do you mind, like, taking the fall on this one for me? Let's make this your fault somehow. Not a cool move.
598
02:05:56.000 --> 02:07:50.000
No, but I think it is. I mean, like, honestly, it's what friends do. In fact, me, Miami were talking. She's watching cop videos, and. And, like, these women. This one woman comes out, she's telling the cops, get off my property. He's like, nah, somebody called the cops. I. I got the right now. And she's like, get off my property. He's like, nope, come outside the house. She's like, I come out. She comes out, and she goes straight at him, and he, like, wraps her up, and she's like. He goes to pick her up. She kicks him, like, both feet, and he's like, oh, they hog tire. And I'm like, would you ever get like that? She's like, do you think I would ever get like that? I'm like, I think there's circumstances. It's like, what would the circumstance be? I say, let's say we're in Maryland, and Jackson gets, like. Gets misidentified for somebody else. Some other white kid that was running amok, and we're for certain that he was with us, and we're trying to tell the cops that, but they're gonna take him in for questioning, and they handcuff him. She's like, oh, hell, yeah, I would. And she's like, you do the same. I was like, no, I didn't say I wouldn't. I'm just saying I could see you doing that in certain. Certain circumstances, and that would be your circumstance. I said, but here's how it goes, you still act like that. But you know, if it happens to Jackson, I have to also act like that. And I want you to also know if my daughters, if something happens to my daughters like that, you need to act like that. She's like, oh, for certain, for certain. And I was like, do you understand why? Because I have to make sure I don't lose him in the system. You have to make sure you don't lose them in the system. You got boys, I got girls. You and, you and Jackson go to jail. You guys are being separated to two different jails. Me and Jackson go to jail, there's a good chance we're gonna be in the same, same area.
599
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Yeah.
600
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So I can at least make sure nothing happens to him. And I expect the same. She was like, for sure. You just gotta have a backup plan, man. You know?
601
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Yeah.
602
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So with all that being said, no, we ain't having our girlfriends and wives on this fucking.
603
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Alright, fine. I'm just spitballing.
604
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Yeah, let's, let's, let's ball in the spit. No way, bro. Because you know they're gonna be like, oh, so we did the. They're gonna want to talk to their friends about it. Did a podcast last night. You know how cool you feel when you tell someone you got a podcast? You know, I mean, I can't Thursday. Ah, Thursday is a rough one for me, man. I got my podcast, you know.
605
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Was that Thursday at 8:00am? Ooh, I got my podcast at 9:00pm I'm not sure.
606
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Yeah, usually think about topics at that time.
607
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All right, well, this has been pseudonyms. Everyone, we salute you.
608
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All right, man, love you.