39 OpenClaw Use Cases to Automate Your Business (and Life)

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I was renting to it, I was like, god damn it, I don't wanna clean the snow today.
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And it asked me, do you want me to find someone?
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And it actually went on the website, found someone, negotiated the price.
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And the funny thing is, like our doorbell is not working.
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So the guy just entered through like another door, he found the shovels, and without even ringing our doorbell or anything, he just cleaned the snow.
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And then he just called me on the phone.
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Hey, I'm uh outside, I'm done.
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And I'm like, whoa, whoa, that happened.
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This is Kidze.
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He was one of the first users of OpenCloud.
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While most people didn't even know that OpenCloud existed, he already had 13 agents wired into his life.
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His calendar, his email, his home assistant, his printer, his phone, his fridge.
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He plugged OpenCloud everywhere.
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In this episode, Kidze showed us his whole setup.
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What works, what broke, what he's building next, and why he thinks people who don't get it are about to get left behind.
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So it's like someone is giving you like a god computer that can do anything, and your first thought is like, I don't know what to use this for.
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It's like mind-blowing to me.
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And trust me, people will watch this video and there will be comments, nah, I don't know if this is that useful.
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Let's deep dive into the 39 ways you can use open cloud to optimize your life.
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But I hope this entire conversation sparks something in you, in your life, like, damn, I can solve this, I can solve that, I can start a business always.
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So Akitse, I know that you said that you stop trying to convince people to try OpenCloud.
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There's people who don't get it, they don't want to get involved in it.
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But for someone who is watching this video and have no clue about what OpenCloud is, what will you say to this person to convince him to try?
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I love how you jump straight into the deep end, no intro, no, hey kids, how are you doing?
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Everything good on your end.
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You're like, tell me about open claw, I don't care about your life.
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I love it.
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Um the vibe has shifted around OpenClaw, I think.
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Uh it's following the natural progress of like everyone being hyped about something, and then eventually the hype dying down, and then just the people who actually find usage for it, those are the only ones who will continue tinkering with it and continue using it, basically.
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So, in my personal experience, there's a lot of LARPing and there's a lot of pretend productivity with Open Claw.
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Where for example, for the first time in my life, I was late with paying my mortgage.
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I missed three different appointments.
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I drove to my veterinarian instead of driving to the dentist, so I missed an appointment there.
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So it seems like when you're setting this up with like 13 agents and everything else, it would make your life more uh organized.
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And the reality is like I'm spending more time on improving my setup than my life actually being fixed.
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So what I would tell beginners or someone who is actually starting with this is the thought of fixing your entire life at once is gonna excite you.
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But try to try to fix like one thing, for example, I don't know, managing your calendar or or whatever.
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Um because it's funny, like my open clock and do shit, like it can rewire my Zigbee lights and peer-to-home assistant, but then I ask it, can you move this event to my calendar?
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And it's like, oh sorry, the connection to the calendar is buggy, and I'm like, that that misses the entire point, you know.
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Um yeah, let me know what you wanna what you wanna know exactly, and I'll try to be more specific.
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No, I I totally understand you.
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Like I was saying the same to my fiance the other day because I spent my entire days like trying to optimize everything about my open cloud, and then I forgot to actually apply what he gave me.
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He gave me crazy stuff, crazy content to do, and I forgot to apply.
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And I think that's what you say.
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Like, you have to be careful about it and apply actually what he says to you.
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And and try to do one thing instead of I tried when I set this up, I tried to fix everything in my life.
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Like, let's do um groceries and shopping on Amazon and calendar and to-dos and habits, and it's like trying to fix 50 things, but they're all like half-fixed, that none of it works.
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Like when I ask it, do something in the browser, it's like, which method do you want me to use?
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I tried to use this, but it cra and I wish I could just go one step at a time.
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Like we're doing um, you probably heard of Tinker Club by now.
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Uh, you'll probably link it and we'll talk more about it later.
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But we started doing this like challenges, daily challenges in the Discord that it feels like a gym for our open claws in a way.
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So every day you try to give it like one skill and to solve one problem, and that's it.
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You might be tempted to do all the challenges at once, but do one thing today, and then in 30 days, when you look back, you would have done like 30 new editions of of like what your open claw can do.
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And I think that's a much better approach.
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But when you first set it up, you're excited and you're like, oh, I want to do everything.
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Yeah, I think it's like taking it as a new employee in your life, like you will not say, okay, fix everything, you would go task per task and explain everything if process actually understand.
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Yeah, it makes sense.
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Uh, what is your setup?
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I know you you shared not long ago you were using Discord, you have different channels for like your different part of your life.
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Like, did you upgrade that?
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Did you change anything about it?
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I like my setup right now is a mess, to be honest with you.
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I'm reaching the limitations of every chat platform.
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Like, I don't like Telegram.
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Like, I created 10 bots and they all take care of a different part of my life.
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Take care, they don't do anything for now.
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But I'm just experimenting like what is the right way to use this tool.
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Because when you have like 10 bots, and then you have like one Discord channel, and then you have multiple topics, and then within the topics you have threads, you get lost in the who am I talking to, in which channel, in which like it's that bell curve meme of like have one-on-one conversations on Telegram, and then you go multi-agent, multi-channel setup, and then eventually you go and you're like, Yeah, just have one agent and talk to them on Telegram, and they should maybe shop your groceries and also vibe code your apps.
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Um, so it's tricky.
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I've been experimenting.
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I'm making my own app which talks to the open claw gateway, so it's not like an open claw alternative, but it's like a chat app that talks to the open claw gateway.
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And what I've done in it so far is you have topics, but you have nested topics, which Discord doesn't have.
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And a topic can be, for example, uh home and work.
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And then within work, we have projects topic, and within projects topic, we have let's say Tinker Club, and within Tinker Club, we have Tinker Club landing page.
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So for that particular topic, I can right-click it, edit it, and choose which agent will answer in this topic by default.
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And I can choose, let's say, my customer support agent will be, or my vibe coding agent will be assigned to this particular topic.
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So that's part one.
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Part two, what's cool about my app is you can assign context to every one of the topics.
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Like you can write a little description.
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So I can say in my work topic, I can write, hi, I'm Kitse, and this is what I'm doing.
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I'm vibe coding on many products, blah, blah, blah.
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You can find them in that particular directory on disk.
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So that's part one.
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Then we have projects.
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So we have work where I describe my work, we have projects where I describe my projects, we have Tinker Club where I have to describe Tinker Club is this platform community, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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And then we have Tinker Club landing page.
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And in it, I point to hey, this is the landing page, this is where it's located on disk.
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This is what methodologies we use, this is what we want to happen, this is what we don't want to happen.
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And now, anytime I start a new conversation within the Tinker Club landing page, it has all the context from all the parents, basically.
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So it knows this is the landing page, this is the description, it has the parent description, that's his project in his work.
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So now it has like this knowledge tree.
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It's it's not like a lot of times when talking to OpenClaw, it feels like you're talking to the void.
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It feels like it feels like it it loses all of its memory and it loses all of its context.
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So you will tell it, hey, uh, fix my Tinker Club landing page, and you'll be like, huh?
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And I'm like, motherfucker, we talked about that like 15 minutes ago.
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How do you forget about it?
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In my app, like when you click new chat, anytime in the first message, everything is injected, so he knows exactly like you know which agent you're talking to, and you know the agent knows which context is it in, so it doesn't uh stream too far from from the thing.
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So I'm trying to make this work, but inventing your own chat app, like you cannot make it as smooth as Discord.
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Like once you try to make it, you realize how much work does it go behind doing something like Discord and Slack and making sure that you know um making sure that every part moves smoothly.
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Did you fix the memory?
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Because you say that old in the root show that you say like you didn't fix it.
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No.
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I saw a few buttons.
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I I I don't even I don't even try to deal with my memory because uh for me that's like an advanced step that too many people are taking too early.
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And I think once I have my app that I'm working on, and once I fix that, I know who am I talking to and which channel, then the next step will be solving memory.
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But for now I feel paralyzed when I need to do something.
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I feel like um decision paralysis of like where do I dump this and who do I give this to, you know?
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And ironically, in the first day of OpenClaw, I had it only on Telegram.
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I was walking my dog, and I was so productive.
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I was like handling customers, doing web research and a bunch of other shit.
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And now, if I want to do something, I'm like, which agent, which channel, which topic?
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So and that's the current state of things, man.
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Because I see your video and I saw you on Discord talking to all these guys, and I was like, fuck, that's maybe like the way to do it.
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And then now you say that, and it's true that I'm just using Telegram and it works pretty well, like talking to one person and having all these different agents that are imaginary in a way, yes, yeah.
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Yeah, can you just tell me a little bit more about how you use it daily?
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Because you say that you used it like for Tinker Club, for your other business.
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Like let's focus on the business part.
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Like, how do you use it daily?
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What are the biggest tasks that you give and that are 100% right now?
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Zero.
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Like right now, my setup.
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I went from being super productive with it to being just feeling like paralyzed by you know decisions.
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That now I'm just tinkering with my setup, but it's not doing anything useful, meaning I have customers yelling at me or like, hey man, you didn't answer me, you didn't do this, you didn't do that.
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And I'm like, ah, how to explain to you guys that my setup is not good enough for me to delegate work in it.
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Because I had a Telegram bot uh which was using the heartbeat of OpenClaw to archive my emails, and I had a pretty strict list of what needs to be archived.
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And in the instructions, I told it, you you can only archive things, which we agree here, you cannot go on your own and just buy archive your own things.
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I read the chat, it's like you have an offer for an investment in Tinker's Club, and to me, this seems like a cold email.
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So I'm assuming like a cold outreach, whatever it's called.
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So I'm assuming this needs to be archived, and it's archiving an email from potential investors.
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So even if this happens once every hundred emails, I cannot fully trust it that it's gonna do the the right thing, you know.
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So I've just turned off the cron job and it turned off the heartbeat, and I'm like, until I am 100% sure and I write the right instructions that this is not gonna go off path and do something stupid, I cannot rely on it.
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So email broken, I cannot fully trust it.
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I can tell it actually, well, there's a difference between you telling it to do things specifically and it doing things on its own.
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So I'm more in the camp right now of like I want to give it specific instructions on what needs to be done, and in that case, uh it can do stuff for me.
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Like, for example, I can tell it read my Twitter DMs.
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There there was someone who wanted to sponsor Tinker Club and they put like their um company information in there.
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So I can tell it, read my Twitter DMs, find who wanted to sponsor, go to my accounting platform, create an invoice, and send it to them via email.
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But this is a very um, this is a very specific um uh instruction because if I'm a bit more vague, and if I tell it uh check my DMs and figure out the invoice, like it's God knows what it's gonna do.
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So I have to be very specific.
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Read the previous few messages, find the ones that's talking about an investment, use the in fact platform.
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So I cannot tell it make an invoice because it's gonna invent its own way of doing invoices.
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So I have to tell it use the in-fact platform for doing an invoice, and then I have to tell it use the GOG or Nihilus integration for sending an email to them.
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So it feels like talking to my two and a half year old, you know.
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I have to be super specific because if I'm vague, it's gonna do something stupid.
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So that's where it's useful for me right now that I don't have to click through five different interfaces to copy the thing and do blah blah blah.
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When I give it specific instructions, it's super useful.
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If I let it run on its own in the background on a heartbeat or on a cron job, it's a dumbass and it's useless.
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I feel like the honeymoon is dead with you.
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Yeah, the honeymoon phase at the beginning where we think is beautiful, and after you lose his memory and you lose hope in it.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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I I think the honeymoon phase with this project is like oh it and I've said this on Twitter, it doesn't matter who owns it at this point, it doesn't matter if it's OpenAI, it doesn't matter if Cloud does their own thing.
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It opened our eyes of how the future could be.
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And right now, if it's dumb and the memory is dumb, it's up to me to fix it.
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Because it completely relies on markdown files.
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And I cannot blame Sam Altman, I cannot blame someone else.
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It's like completely up to me.
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I can even fork it and improve it on my own.
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Or like I can give it the right instructions and the right setup to actually be smart and to remember things.
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This is what I like about this project that I don't blame anyone else and oh, agents suck or blah, blah, blah.
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Like I have fully the power to make this uh either super powerful or a dumbass.
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And I think that's what is overwhelming about this project.
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Like, you know the potential, you know that if you give it the right tools, it can actually click through the apps and the browser and do everything for you.
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But when it doesn't, like it's very fucking frustrating because you're like, oh man, I know you have potential.
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Why don't you do the thing?
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Yeah, and I know exactly it's feeling like the first task that he did was optimizing my podcast website.
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That's the first thing he did.
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And the other day I was like, Can you go on my podcast website and do it?
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And he was like, I don't have the links to your website.
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Yeah, exactly.
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You built it like that, you're the guy, you gave the idea, you built it, and you forgot it.
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So yeah, that's just fitting.
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That's incredible.
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It is.
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Yeah, when you say that, the the idea that comes in my mind is maybe like build SOPs and on paper on something, and like instead of saying do that, do SOP one, you know, like do this process, and then this process is written, and then you always go to the process, read it, and do it.
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Probably use a lot of credit, but maybe the only way to uh yeah, so I have a I have a solution for this, and this is why I started building my own app for uh for this is um there's a concept of skills that are injected in the first prompt, right?
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And then the agent chooses which skill to use.
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And there's the concept of commands and like slash commands.
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Cursor has slash commands.
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I think now Claude and Codex and everyone else has slash commands.
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So your thing that you're saying about the podcast needs to be converted into a slash command.
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So sometimes you need a skill, a skill would be managing my podcast, where you would actually describe where is your podcast, where does it live, blah, blah, blah.
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But even then, you might need to pair that skill with a slash command that's like upload the latest episode of this podcast.
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So a slash command would just be a very type-specific um instruction written in Markdown about what exactly do you want to happen.
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So I think people rely too much on chatting with it and hoping it's gonna do good.
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But I think what you need to do is every time you do something successful, you either convert it to a skill or you convert it to a slash command, or you or you make a mix of both.
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So in the future, you have this SOP which you can easily repeat instead of just vibing it every single time.
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So what I'm doing in my app is uh there's and what Discord and Telegram and the others don't have is you can add things.
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So when you chat with the bot, you can mention uh a skill, you can mention a slash command, and you can mention another bot.
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And I'm working on adding like a knowledge base so you'll be able to mention your knowledge base.
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So when you talk to the bot, you can be like, hey, use my at Gmail skill to make an invoice using no to add make an invoice, where make an invoice would be like a slash command or a mini procedure.
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Get it?
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And then basically your prompt expands and you just add a few things, but you give so much context to the agent that it will know exactly what to do.
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As compared to Discord right now, you're just shooting in the dark, you're like, use the in-fact platform for invoices, but it's a guess whether it's gonna use the skill or it's gonna ask you, uh, what is in fact?
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I tried logging in, but it doesn't work.
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So this is why I like that you can add things and precisely tell it what do you want to happen.
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I like that you take the responsibility of it because I think that's the right thing to do.
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It's like again, like hiring an employee and asking to fix your company and complaining about it the first day.
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I feel like you really have to give it a structure, and some people are just prompting and are waiting for magical to happen.
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And as you say, it's like it's not possible.
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It can work the first days really well, but then after that, you understand that you have to structure and that it's actually a biggest task that it was supposed to be.
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100%.
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And people do this with vibe coding too.
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Like vibe coding can be turned into vibe engineering.
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I have an entire talk about this, where you can maybe link it somewhere in the description.
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It's called From Vibe Coding to Vibe Engineering.
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Vibe coder just shoots in the dark and constantly it's like, please fix, please fix, please fix, just hoping it's gonna do the thing.
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A vibe engineer equips their agent with skills, commands, and a bunch of other stuff, and is very precise in what they ask.
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And then the agents will give you good outputs if you actually ask the right way.
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And people are lazy, they're a lazy prompt and be like, oh, vibe coding sucks, this doesn't work.
00:18:44.400 --> 00:19:04.559
In your video with Greg, you shared like a few crazy case studies, and I don't know, remember the fact that you were talking about you asking your agent to actually print something random and he found your printer and did you find any new personal case studies that were pretty crazy?
00:19:04.799 --> 00:19:08.799
Or did you find like any people online who are doing crazy stuff with it?
00:19:09.759 --> 00:19:11.119
I'm doing a lot of crazy things.
00:19:11.200 --> 00:19:16.319
I actually did a presentation at uh meetup in Vienna about this.
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Uh, so there was an open cloud meetup in Vienna, and I did um like a fast round of like 30 use cases in uh five minutes.
00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:36.480
The problem is the the website with the presentation is down, so we can keep chatting while I tell one of my bots to um actually it published it on versale.
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Let me see if the link over sale is live.
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It is live.
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Awesome.
00:19:40.799 --> 00:19:45.279
So if you want, I can even uh share my screen and we can go quickly to the presentation.
00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:52.079
So this was the first slide about Pete because I literally feel like this guy changed uh my life with this project.
00:19:52.319 --> 00:19:56.319
Um I had a Clon Wall set up before there was onboarding available.
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So I was one of the first people in the Cloudboard Discord, and even Peter asked me, like, man, how do you have this set up?
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Because there was no onboarding.
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And I just used cloud code in order to set it up.
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So that was pretty cool.
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Uh, these are people talking about LLM psychosis, and I have LLM schizophrenia.
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Like I have 20 bots, and they're in a group called Arkham Asylum, and they're all crazy, and they're mostly performative and useless.
00:20:18.400 --> 00:20:26.079
Another fun fact is I made the OpenClaw logo with 3am because Peter sent me the article for announcing OpenClaw, and I was like, man, that's a horrible logo.
00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:30.160
So I created one and now it's the logo from for the thing.
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Uh Tinker Club, we can talk more about it later, and people can find it at the thing.
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Here's 50 things that are going to change your life.
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So, customer support agent, as I said, it is pretty useful because it can handle so many customers in batch.
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So I can tell it, it can tell me the heartbeat is still on, and it tells me uh there's like two people asking for a refund.
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And I'll be like, you know the procedure, refund them, handle them, whatever.
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And it's very useful to just batch do emails without looking at your email.
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Uh, giving the bot its own phone number uh is pretty cool.
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So I gave it a trilio phone number.
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And to be honest with you, I've never done anything with uh with this, so it's not useful, but it's wired, and I'm hoping to make it useful at some point.
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Uh build a mailbox app.
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This is still work in progress.
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So I built an app uh where my bot lives on the Mac Studio that uses um Apple script and uses full disk access to read all of my emails from the Apple email app.
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And then instead of my open claw directly reading from this app, I have a jury of like five independent LLMs that judge every email, whether it's like has prompt injection, whether it's safe or whether it's spam.
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So those five agree on their own and then they take action.
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And my open claw can only access emails that are safe.
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Um, I don't want to do the entire presentation without you interrupting, so just feel free to like we can go slide by slide and you can tell me like move on to next, or maybe you want to ask something about this one in particular.
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I know I love it.
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I feel like um The phone number, I wanted to try it.
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Uh to give it, for example, I have an Indonesian number here and I have the WhatsApp and a lot of things are dealt with WhatsApp here.
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Like if you want to order coconut, if you want to order like anything is through WhatsApp.
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I feel like for me that would be a have you ordered a coconut through WhatsApp?
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Yeah, I ordered coconut through WhatsApp.
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There's a guy, his name is like Way Coconut Man.
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And I send you a message.
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One second later he answer me and he delivers coconut like twice a week, man.
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And and you order like one coconut, and he comes even without a bag, and he's like, here's your one coconut.
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Eight or ten, the maximum I can fit in my fridge.
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And then, like, yeah, when it's like over, I just like buy more.
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I drink like one coconut a day minimum.
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That's insane.
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Okay.
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You can presentation later.
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There's like 50 ways I use coconuts.
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Man, I will I will try it and I will send you the video.
00:22:54.480 --> 00:22:58.960
But basically, here in Indonesia, you can order anything through WhatsApp.
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So giving a phone number and an access to WhatsApp makes a lot of sense because it can deal with the administrative administrative thing, it can deal with a lot of things in my life.
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So that will be a personal assistance in Indonesia.
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Yeah, it will be perfect.
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It makes sense for the mailbox.
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I think it's really good that you talk about that because I feel like I still didn't figure out how to do that.
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Um I will not give him my you know the address, the um access of my email, uh of my Gmail, but yeah.
00:23:28.799 --> 00:23:30.319
How does it work exactly?
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Like uh did you already make it happen?
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Yeah, so this app basically like I'm logged into the mail app, to the native mail app, and uh it's connected to all of my accounts, but for now it's read-only, so the bot can read stuff, but it cannot send stuff through this app.
00:23:49.519 --> 00:23:51.200
So I'm making like a safe app.
00:23:51.440 --> 00:23:57.440
And meanwhile, while I'm building the app, I've given it access, like full access to everything through GOG, CLI.
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And for people who cannot get GOG working, you can try Nylas.
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So Nile S is a platform for like connecting your emails and they give you an API, and it's kind of more stable for me than GOG, to be honest.
00:24:10.720 --> 00:24:12.240
So that's it about email.
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It's still like be careful not to get prompt injected and everything, you know.
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And uh hopefully this will be live soon and people can use email in a safe way.
00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:23.519
Amazing.
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Yeah, I have your question about safety, by the way.
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Um, you say like, you know, be careful about being prompt injected.
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Did you learn anything?
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Like, what are the biggest steps to actually be safe with OpenCloud?
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Uh you need to figure out where can prompt injection happen from, and it's your email, your messages, and browsing.
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So it's usually an external factor.
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And how I protect myself from it is like I'm building this app, which is like not gonna have it's gonna be every email is gonna be judged for prompt injections, and it already works and it's always good.
00:24:59.440 --> 00:25:03.039
Uh, but meanwhile, use a very smart model.
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I see people are like, oh my god, I'm using Gemini 3 or I'm using uh Min Max or whatever the fuck.
00:25:08.559 --> 00:25:12.880
And it's like, no, use Opus, use the latest version of Opus, don't even downgrade to Sonnet.
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This was something that Peter was repeating to all of us in the Discord back before his life blew up.
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Someone would be like, oh my god, a switch to Sonnet is so much faster.
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And he would be like, no, use Opus because you're gonna get hacked, you're gonna get prompt injected.
00:25:25.759 --> 00:25:32.000
Because I had Opus actually laughing at a few cases of people who wanted to prompt inject me.
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It's like, haha, this is funny, I'm not gonna fall for this.
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But if you use Gemini Flash, you might fall for it, and then there goes your computer.
00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:40.160
So that would be one advice.
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Um, for messages, I'm I let it read messages, but I'm pretty sure that all the senders that send me messages, I've locked down my messaging to a point where no one malicious can send me messages to try to prompt inject me.
00:25:53.599 --> 00:25:55.039
And then the last one is browsing.
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I'm also working on a browser called uh closer, like closer browser, which is a browser for agents where humans don't touch it.
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So you don't go and you don't type in it, you don't click in it.
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And one of the functionalities of the browser is going to be every website when it loads, it gets again judged by a couple of LLMs and even local LLM.
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Like, is there something malicious on it?
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And then when it's approved, only then OpenClaw can do stuff on that website.
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And you can manually approve certain websites and be like, I know that Amazon is safe, this is safe, that is safe.
00:26:28.720 --> 00:26:34.960
And basically it is, I've been using it a lot that like I see it in the corner of my eye or this.
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I have another monitor right here where OpenClaw is living, and I can see it opening the browser.
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And in any time I'm curious like what it does, I can just lean in and actually see a high.
00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:54.000
It opened a couple of tabs, and many agents can work in parallel in different tabs because I feel um well we can talk more about the browser when it's like there's a slide about it.
00:26:54.400 --> 00:26:58.640
Uh so save browsing, save emails, save messages, and use smart models.
00:26:58.720 --> 00:27:02.880
Those would be my four that that would be my advice for safety.
00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:14.160
Yeah, I think uh using a smart LLM is like uh something people want to be cheap on it, but I think it's just for cheap whatever you use compared to like what it brings you.
00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:30.480
Like, you know, if I had to hire a Q writer to do all the tweets and everything, and yeah, it makes sense to have a team of A player, you know, working for you and not use a C player just because you want to be cheap and like someone who can do a big mistake and break all your structure.
00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:32.000
So, yeah, it makes sense.
00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:43.759
I would personally like currently I'm paying uh around$600 for alums per month, and I'm only doing that because I haven't found a way to make them useful all the time and to make them useful at night.
00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:57.519
When I figure out, and I will soon, ways to make my agents work 24-7 and basically fix stuff and handle customers and spin up new businesses and landing pages and deploy apps for iOS and Android.
00:27:57.599 --> 00:27:58.960
Like, this is all possible.
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I I won't care about the credits.
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It's like a$200 employee.
00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:03.440
Are you kidding me?
00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:05.440
Like, I'll get 10 of them, I'll get 20 of them.
00:28:05.599 --> 00:28:10.000
Like the it scales, you should scale it with how much value it brings you in life.
00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:12.480
It's stupid to buy 10 accounts and do nothing with them.
00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:17.839
But if you pay$200, is literally the cheapest assistant you can have in life.
00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:31.200
I've had assistance previously from um services like Atina, I don't know if you've heard of them, and a bunch of other things, and even them, like the lowest amount that you can pay was around 3,000 euros per month, I think, in order to have an assistant.
00:28:31.359 --> 00:28:34.799
And someone will tell you, man, you're paying 3,000 and you think that's a little.
00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:41.599
I am actually if I have an um executive assistant from whatever country from somewhere for a thousand euros.
00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:44.079
So people are competing, like, how can you can go lower?
00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:50.720
And sometimes you might be lucky that you pay low and you get someone good, but I don't think that price is gonna be 200.
00:28:51.279 --> 00:29:01.599
200, you're never gonna find someone who's gonna like read all of your rules, apply everything that you tell it, it's not gonna get mad, it's not gonna get sick, it's not gonna get blah blah blah.
00:29:01.759 --> 00:29:02.720
It's like 200.
00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:04.000
It's it's a no-brainer.
00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:10.000
It's a no-brainer if you have a business and if you're trying to do more in life, otherwise, yeah.
00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:11.200
I totally agree.
00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:20.799
I feel like a lot of people are taking OpenCloud and putting it on the Mac Mini or even in a VP VPS and try it to make money.
00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:28.000
But I think for me, the like the best is the best use case is having a business and using it to help you, you know.
00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:31.279
Like, for example, for me, right now my focus is the podcast.
00:29:31.359 --> 00:29:34.480
How can I automate everything, every task around the podcast?
00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:38.640
And for that, it takes me a lot, and whatever I will pay for it, it's worth it.
00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:40.319
And for you, it's probably the same.
00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:47.839
But like for someone who just like takes open cloud to actually start a business and make money, yeah, yeah, it's harder.
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:49.839
What is your structure with LLM?
00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:54.319
You just use Opus 4.6, or do you use like I don't know, codecs or anything else?
00:29:54.559 --> 00:29:55.039
Just Opus.
00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:59.519
Uh for vibe coding, I'm using Codex for everything.
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Uh I don't use I rarely sometimes I'll be really tired and I'll use Opus because I cannot wait for Codex because Codex is insanely slow.
00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:13.440
Other than that, opus um codecs for coding, opus for chat.
00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:18.559
And you say you build the made app, the browser, and all this other tool.
00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:21.359
Do you how do you build it?
00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:32.799
Everything with OpenCloud or do you just use like I've built a bunch of stuff with OpenClaw, like the entire Tinker Club landing page that so many people are I I don't think it's anything special.
00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:34.880
Like I put some effort in it.
00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:38.799
But people are like, oh wow, this uh design is amazing and blah blah blah.
00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:41.519
And I'm like, oh, I just coded this with Telegram, you know.
00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:45.119
So that was one of the first things where I didn't open a terminal, I didn't do anything.
00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:47.119
It was all done through OpenClaw.
00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:54.000
I gave it skills for buying a domain, I gave it skills for managing my domains, I gave it skills for for sell, for a bunch of other stuff.
00:30:54.240 --> 00:31:00.960
So from my computer to wiring into the domain, deploying it, whatever, everything was done through Telegram.
00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:08.880
This was back in the days when I was actually productive with OpenClaw, instead of being like, ah, what is the right way to use it?
00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:16.720
Now my wife is joining me for Tinker Club, and she has been doing QA and manual testing for all our apps in the past.
00:31:16.799 --> 00:31:26.079
So she's been doing customer support, um, taking care of um documentation, change logs, and also quality assurance and testing, basically.
00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:29.920
So she would report the bugs and I would pick up and fix the bugs and we would go in a cycle.
00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:38.400
So now when I work have to work with her, um, we're trying to use a special Discord called Vibecoding, which is only because I'm not someone who has two projects.
00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:41.440
If I had two projects, we can use anything, Telegram, whatever.
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:44.640
But I probably have more than 50 projects on disk.
00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:46.799
No, probably more than 70 projects.
00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:59.599
If we count that, like for example, Tinker Club is like consists of landing page A, B, and C or Benji, consists of Benji Electron app, Benji Extension, Benji backend, Benji front end.
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:02.559
If we count like that, I probably have 70 projects.
00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:06.480
So I cannot use Telegram and do one-on-one about all of these projects.
00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:19.039
I'm trying to use Discord, and when I made a word Discord, I got lost in it because I have like 70 channels for all my projects, and then I have accounting, invoices, business, marketing, blah blah blah, everything at once.
00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:21.839
So I'm like, this is not going to work.
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:24.319
So then we split into two Discords.
00:32:24.400 --> 00:32:29.759
One is called Vibecoding, where it's only for listing all the projects and being able to vibe code on them.
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:32.480
And the idea is that my wife will also be in that.
00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:39.519
So when she finds a button, instead of reporting it to me, she will just vibe code it and uh basically fix it by herself.
00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:44.160
But even that's to me, that's not the ideal flow because I cannot review the work that way.
00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:57.759
You know, that's fine for quick things, but when collaborating with someone, it would be nice to use something like GitHub issues or cloud agents or something like that, where you can actually see a canban moving and you can review it before it goes to the next stage.
00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:11.200
So, in this question, we have an answer: like, how would you do it if you're like one person working with uh agents on many projects, or do you have one person working on a couple of projects, or you have a team trying to vibe code on many projects?
00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:14.960
And the answer is like they're different for all of those scenarios.
00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:24.880
I I'm personally trying to find my uh what is my ideal way of doing things because sometimes for a quick fix of a landing page, I can do it through Telegram.
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:31.359
Um, doing a couple of things, I can do them by myself on Discord, but now it gets complex when I involve another person.
00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:39.039
Like, how do we do peer programming, peer vibing together while making sure that we don't break the app consistently?
00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:40.480
Yeah, I see.
00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:44.319
And you were talking about the fact that you use a studio.
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:45.599
Why is that?
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:51.680
Like, you know, for someone who don't understand, like why would you use a studio and not a Mac Mini?
00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:54.400
Because I had it at home.
00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:59.119
I've been actually a huge fan of Mac minis and studios before all of this started.
00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:02.160
I've been using since 2018, probably.
00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:05.519
So I went from Mac Mini to another Mac Mini and then to studio.
00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:12.719
And now I use a MacBook because I need more portability, but and my studio is used as a home server.
00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:18.559
But even these Mac minis, people call them powerful and shit, but they're only like 24 gigabytes of RAM, which is not enough.
00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:25.039
So if in Tinker Club, what we started is we started self-hosting everything, and I mean literally everything.
00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:29.679
There are people self-hosting GitHub because they don't work with anyone, so why would they use GitHub?
00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:34.320
They can use a self-hosted version of it, and there's like plenty of things.
00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:38.000
Like I went from someone who hated self-hosting, dude.
00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:45.360
I was so against I was like, just buy paper cell or railway or whoever the fuck, and don't bother with self-hosting.
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:49.599
And like last year, I got a Headsner server and I set up Coolify on it.
00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:55.280
I'm like, fuck, this is the same thing as Railway, except I'm paying$50 instead of$200,$300.
00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:59.039
So that was my first entrance into I can do things on my own.
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:09.199
And now OpenClaw opened the gates for you can just own your assistant, and people buy these powerful machines, put them on their desk, only to host OpenClaw on it.
00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:14.079
Like you have free memory sitting, both like storage and RAM and everything.
00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:18.079
So in Tinker Club, we started exploring what we can self-host.
00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:24.079
So we started from like home assistant, home automation, cameras, um, your own analytics, your own postog.
00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:33.280
And basically, when you go into it, you realize like I can have Docker running on the Mac Studio, and basically I can self-host most of the tools I use in my life as subscriptions.
00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:42.800
You can use it as a download server, you can download definitely legal movies and legal TV shows and all of these legal things that people are legally setting up.
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:50.159
And I I I don't I don't wanna I don't wanna overhype Tinker Club because actually we're trying to slow down the adoption.
00:35:50.320 --> 00:36:08.400
But the amount of madmen that they have gathered in here, like I thought I'll be the one telling people how to do things, but sometimes I read the channels and I'm like someone is self-hosting GitHub, someone is like, I own 46 Burger Kings, somebody's like, you mention a book, and someone is like, Yeah, I know that author.
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:18.400
I was his assistant for like six months in New York, so it's a crazy mix of people, and every day uh I'm reaching a new point where my Mac Studio is not even enough.
00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:22.719
The amount of shit that these people just invent that you can do and you can self-host.
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:37.280
I think I'm getting a warning constant, like I'm going out of memory, I'm going out of RAM, and I'm trying to maybe get another one or get like multiple machines and just um I think uh I'm ADHD, so I'm gonna answer your questions with 30 answers.
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:49.039
So, what you had what you asked me is like if you're planning to go down the rabbit hole of self-hosting and tinkering, then get a Mac Studio over Mac Mini because it's a more powerful machine overall.
00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:54.960
But if you're planning only to use OpenClaw and nothing else, then I'm not sure if you would even need a Mac Mini.
00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:58.960
You can find an old MacBook, you can find an old Raspberry Pi or anything.
00:36:59.199 --> 00:37:01.519
So that would be the advice there.
00:37:01.679 --> 00:37:04.800
So Mailbox app, clean the snow in my driveway.
00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:15.360
This was a very cool use case of OpenClaw because I connected it to a local platform in Poland for uh finding contractors for uh anything, painting, whatever.
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:16.639
And I was venting to it.
00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:18.719
I was like, God damn it, I don't want to clean the snow today.
00:37:18.880 --> 00:37:20.880
And it asked me, Do you want me to find someone?
00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:25.360
And it actually went on the website, found someone, negotiated the price.
00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:27.760
And the funny thing is, like our doorbell is not working.
00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:36.239
So the guy just entered through like another door, and he found um he found the shovels because they were like buried in the snow outside.
00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:40.480
And without even ringing our doorbell doorbell or anything, he just cleaned the snow.
00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:42.079
And then he just called me on the phone.
00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:44.000
I'm like, hey, I'm uh outside, I'm done.
00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:45.599
And I'm like, whoa, whoa, that happened.
00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:52.159
So it felt like I just vented to open claw about something, and a guy came in, did the job, and he just called me for a payment.
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:59.199
And I would eventually want to close that loop that even open claw, it's like watching my cameras, managing the people, maybe even talking through the cameras to them.
00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:03.840
And when it's time to pay them, it can just use an API and pay them and just send them on their way.
00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:16.400
So this was the first moment where I feel like how you can connect the real world with your open claw, and you you leverage like real people to like, as you said, bring you coconuts or bring you like the plans, the crazy plans that I have.
00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:24.239
It's like having cameras in my pantry, in my fridge, and in other places that eventually like it auto-replenishes all the groceries or the pantry or the spices.
00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:30.159
But you don't do stuff, it just finds ways in the real world and unblocks itself.
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:38.159
Like if service A doesn't work, I'll text a guy, I'll hire a guy, I'll do something, you know, to to do stuff in the real world for you in the background.
00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:43.440
Man, I love that because I've been thinking about exactly the same thing, like probably a lot of people.
00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:51.840
But for me, the um the mind-blowing moment was like, you know, that was the first time I installed uh AI in an hardware.
00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:54.159
And then I understood that okay, it's possible.
00:38:54.320 --> 00:39:05.039
Then if you put this hardware in a robot or in anything, then he will understand the movement, he will understand what's happening, and he will learn by himself.
00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:10.880
And then when I thought about that, I thought like people are thinking that right now it's a geeky stuff, you know.
00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:13.119
Ah yeah, you play with your computer, that's good.
00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:19.119
This crazy game that we are playing actually have impact in the real life.
00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:24.000
Like the structure, the workflow you build have impact right now, you make more money with it.
00:39:24.079 --> 00:39:28.159
But tomorrow I feel like it will have impact in the real life the same way that you just exposed.
00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:32.480
You find someone easily, you build an entire build.
00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:40.880
Like, I don't know, you there is a guy like uh he talked about real estate, he's using that for his real estate um company.
00:39:41.440 --> 00:39:47.599
And then like it's yeah, it just applies in the real world, in robots that you will use, in camera that you will put in your fridge.
00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:53.119
We see when the yogurt is over or when there is no coconut, order more coconut, you know.
00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:56.880
And that's a beautiful part of it that I'm really excited about.
00:39:57.199 --> 00:40:00.320
I I think that's the most appealing part of OpenClaw for me.
00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:16.239
It's like it's your job to equip it with more tools, to give it access to your cameras, to microphones, to like I was even thinking of getting like a cheap iPad and putting it on a stick and putting it on my vacuum robot so it can actually go to rooms, so I can ask it, go and check what's going on.
00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:17.679
Yeah, I can be like, hey, I heard a noise.
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:18.400
Can you go check?
00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:25.119
And let's say I don't have a camera at that spot, and it can like undock the room by just walking itself there and you give it like a new interface.
00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:29.599
I think all of this is a preview of how we're gonna have robots at home.
00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:30.880
Now they're too expensive.
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:34.880
But I see a future, you've seen this Neo and whatever robots, right?
00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:36.320
Like they're a bit creepy.
00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:47.599
They're creepy to me because the robot does something and then they're done, and they go and they sit on the living room couch like this and just creepily observe you like while you and your wife uh finish your lunch.
00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:49.679
To me, that's a no-rule.
00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:59.519
But if you think how do vacuum robots work, uh usually we use ours when we go out, when everyone is out, we turn it on to do stuff because it's annoying while we're at home.
00:40:59.679 --> 00:41:00.639
So I think the same thing.
00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:08.480
I would like to have a robot like Neo that's locked in a metallic container that it cannot get out from, and only I have the thing to unlock it.
00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:23.920
And then when I leave the house, we let it go, and it looks at the to-do list and the things that need to be done, and it might be slow because people are um I hate when people are like, oh yeah, open claw can use the browser, but I can do it faster.
00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:26.320
Like, that's the worst mindset to have about the thing.
00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:33.039
The thing is like, how can you have seven open claws doing seven things in parallel in the browser while you do something else?
00:41:33.199 --> 00:41:34.719
And it's gonna be the same with the robots.
00:41:34.880 --> 00:41:37.440
People are like, oh, it's too slow folding laundry, man.
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:38.400
I can do it in five minutes.
00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:39.760
Why does it do it in 15 minutes?
00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:49.519
But if you're out of town or if you're out for two hours, this can do things slowly, but in one hour or in two hours, it can finish a lot of things while you're not at home.
00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:52.559
So I think that's how we need to look into all of this.
00:41:52.639 --> 00:42:13.119
Like what people call open claw overhyped and blah blah blah, and I just don't know how they don't see that we're building a new type of web, not web as in the internet, like a new type of connection between like humans and machines, that eventually a lot of things in your life are gonna be seamless because the right APIs are gonna hit and talk to each other without you doing much.
00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:20.480
Right now, you need to manually go and teach it how to order groceries and blah blah blah, but in the future it's just gonna find ways for you.
00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:27.440
So, whichever platform is more open to robots, those are the platforms that are gonna survive in the future.
00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:34.880
Like you can have Upwork, for example, but if Upwork doesn't have a full API where robots can hire humans, Upwork is gonna die.
00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:40.159
And some other platform is gonna come in its place where it's like hire your own human to do blah blah blah.
00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:46.800
I've tweeted this, and this is this is a bit insane for people to think about because every early thought is insane to people.
00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:56.880
The roles are going to reverse, where right now we're prompting robots to build a better life, to build a better future, to build like on a scale, to improve humanity.
00:42:57.119 --> 00:43:01.199
It's inevitable in the next upcoming years that robots will prompt us.
00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:12.880
The AI will prompt us, so the AI will be able to do enough, and only for the last 10% where it needs a human, it will talk to you, or it will hire it, or it will figure out how to finish those 10%.
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:15.119
And now we do the we do it the opposite way.
00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:21.039
Like we do do do do, and we tell the robot, like, this is what I need from you, but it's gonna flip uh around.
00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:26.400
And if you have a little bit of uh imagination, you can predict how everything unfolds.
00:43:26.480 --> 00:43:29.360
And I'm just amazed when people are skeptical about all of this.
00:43:29.440 --> 00:43:34.880
Like to me, this was the final moment that we're on we're entering a new territory this year.
00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:40.400
I I totally agree, and I feel like yeah, open cloud for me is the gate between the virtual and the real.
00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:49.280
Like there is like now it's it's possible that this AI start to move, start to have legs, start to go in your life, start to connect with everything around you.
00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:51.039
Yeah, it comes in the real life.
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:57.519
And you know, I was thinking about that that we will be outside and I will be like on my telegram talking to my robot.
00:43:57.599 --> 00:43:59.039
Hey, did I close the window?
00:43:59.199 --> 00:43:59.599
Oh no.
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:04.239
I just close it and by the way I did you dishes, you know, like it will be like that.
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:14.559
And this thing that you say, I already experienced it that it's prompting prompting me in a way that now every day you also give me tasks to do.
00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:20.320
You know, we are still stuck on this task because you didn't do that, and he repeats that to me every single day.
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:26.320
So I'm yes, I thought it would work for me, but at the end I'm also working for it, yeah.
00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:30.079
And that's pretty weird, a weird situation, but exciting.
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:35.519
And I 100% agree with you that I don't understand people who don't understand, you know.
00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:39.199
It's the obvious the future, it's obvious what's coming.
00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:40.800
Yeah.
00:44:41.119 --> 00:44:50.559
I mean, we can have an entire other discussion which we won't have time for, maybe another time, maybe on my podcast, about the future of computers and interfaces.
00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:54.159
But to me, it's so obvious where it's gonna go.
00:44:54.400 --> 00:44:58.480
And people are like, no, my my grandma will never vibe code.
00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:02.800
And it's like that's such a narrow view of what the future holds, it's incredible to me.
00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:06.320
But I would I would park that discussion for for another time, to be honest.
00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:11.440
Because you wanted to dedicate this to open claw so we can just go and talk open claw things like that.
00:45:11.599 --> 00:45:14.320
Yeah, I would love to have this conversation later for sure.
00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:15.920
There is one thing that I want to know.
00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:21.679
You say that you add a skill to your Benji, right?
00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:24.559
That he can actually uh buy a domain name.
00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:26.639
Um, how does he pay?
00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:30.159
Do you give him like a credit card, a top-up credit card?
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:35.280
Um it's already wired in in Namecheap and they don't ask for confirmation.
00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:40.239
Okay, so you never gave any payment method to your AI?
00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:42.719
No, but I'm planning to use wise.com.
00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:46.079
So it's wise for people who don't know, it's like similar to Revolute.
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:48.559
So it's like online banking and blah, blah, blah.
00:45:48.719 --> 00:45:52.559
And WISE has, unlike Revolute, they have a very nice REST API.
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:59.039
So you can give it a WISE skill, it will have its own credit card, and every month you can send it like$200,$300, whatever.
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:05.440
And then through the API, it can pay contractors, it can do other things because it will have like a limited amount of money.
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:10.480
Currently, you can give it like a Revolute card, like a virtual card with a limit.
00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:16.639
But the difference is it cannot pay your veterinarian, it cannot pay a contractor, it cannot pay, you know.
00:46:17.519 --> 00:46:22.239
So, uh, because Revolute cannot do transactions via API, and WISE can.
00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:28.159
So WISE can be like, for example, I take my dog to the groomer and I can just I don't even need to text Telegram.
00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:35.280
Like it can find my location, it knew that I was at the groomer's place, and I can have an automation, use the wise API, just pay them, and that's it.
00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:50.480
No, this is actually like I want to say something here where um you should use your open claw to build automations that are repeatable, that you can put them in N8N, in home assistant, in node red, in something like that.
00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:56.960
Instead of you, every time you're in the groomer, you open your telegram, you text, uh Lord me, please need the groomer.
00:46:57.039 --> 00:47:03.039
So if you find something repetitive enough, you need to put it in an old school web hook type of flow.
00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:06.079
When A happens, I want B to happen.
00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:11.679
Instead of constantly texting your open cloud, hey, every time I enter my garage, please turn on the lights.
00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:13.840
Like you don't want that, has nothing to do with AI.
00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:19.280
You can use the AI to build you better automations in your home and your life, like this one with the groomer, for example.
00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:29.760
I can tell it to have access to my home assistant, make an automation when I go into the radius of this particular place to send me maybe a push notification saying do you want to pay or not?
00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:32.559
And if I click yes, then it goes ahead and does the payments.
00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:38.079
But it doesn't use AI, it will only use like old school if-else logic.
00:47:38.320 --> 00:47:39.840
If you if you get what I'm seeing.
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:41.199
Yeah, I get it 100%.
00:47:41.760 --> 00:47:43.280
Yes, no, it was two days ago.
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:48.559
I went to the restaurant and I was joking, like soon I will just say my agent will contact you.
00:47:48.719 --> 00:47:51.599
You know, like I will give the restaurant to say my agent.
00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:53.119
I mean it's already reality.
00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:54.239
Yeah, yeah.
00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:58.000
Yeah, you set it up on your Apple Ultra, right?
00:47:58.400 --> 00:48:01.119
To know where you are in the room or where you are.
00:48:01.360 --> 00:48:02.000
It's located.
00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:02.800
I I switched.
00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:05.599
I'm a I'm an Android boy now, so I'm I'm on Pixel.
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:16.639
We can go, uh I'll try to go through the slides, and there are for we'll never go through them, but uh, this is a skill that I did for booking airport parking automatically.
00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:20.880
It's nothing fancy, it just I taught it how to use the parking website.
00:48:21.039 --> 00:48:24.320
So now when we go on trips, ideally it will be on automation.
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:27.360
Every time I go to a trip, it will ask me, Am I going by car?
00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:30.159
And it will book a parking spot in advance.
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:31.679
Connected it to my printer.
00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:37.119
This is really nice because I can just text it and be like print whatever, images, whatever it works.
00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:41.199
Uh, this is not fully implemented, but I will implement it soon.
00:48:41.360 --> 00:48:54.000
Uh, we have like a cleaning service coming uh to clean a house, and they speak a different language, and it's hard to reuse Google Translate, Apple Translate to just make a plan for what should be clean and blah, blah, blah.
00:48:54.239 --> 00:48:59.599
I made an app where we have like um the entire cleaning schedule and everything that needs to be done.
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:03.599
Eventually, I just need to put the cleaning service in a group chat with my bot.
00:49:03.679 --> 00:49:08.400
I'll make a special bot for this, and they can just text what they've done on the day, and the bot can make them a plan.
00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:10.079
Like, let's say they're coming on Wednesday.
00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:15.039
We need to do all of these things that haven't been done in a while in the house.
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:19.199
So that's a useful use case.
00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:21.920
Fully manages home assistant and home automation.
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:28.719
I moved my home assistant from a special computer, like a Raspberry Live computer, to the Mac Studio.
00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:33.840
And now the bot has full access to home assistant and it can build me dashboards.
00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:38.800
I just manually went and paired all of my lights and all my sockets and all my switches and all of the smart things.
00:49:38.960 --> 00:49:48.559
And now anytime I'm frustrated with doing something manually, I can text my bot and be like, hey, every time I walk into the hallway, I want the light to turn on for 10 seconds and blah blah blah.
00:49:48.639 --> 00:49:56.000
And it's a very natural way to build automations instead of going in an interface and doing drag and drop and doing a bunch of stuff.
00:49:56.320 --> 00:49:57.519
Very cool.
00:49:57.840 --> 00:50:10.320
Uh, home smartness overview, it built this dashboard to figure out which of my rooms are fully smart and which of the rooms still need to pair some stuff and blah blah blah in order to make the entire house smart.
00:50:10.559 --> 00:50:12.719
Um, it can control my screens.
00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:15.199
So I have this screen right now, the the e-ink.
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:17.199
This is the terminal screen.
00:50:17.360 --> 00:50:25.760
And as you can see, OpenClaw is now has a scale to put HTML dashboards to put some warning to tell me something through the screen.
00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:34.239
And also it can cast on the Google Home devices, and um it can cast on every TV in the house, basically.
00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:39.039
So it builds an HTML dashboard, it screenshots it as an image, and then it casts that image.
00:50:39.199 --> 00:50:57.519
So eventually, what I want to build with this is like there's a huge intersection between a smartphone and the open claw because it can know in which room you are, it can know which TV or which speaker or whatever you have, and it can kind of come into the real world a little bit by speaking to you in that room or just showing you a warning.
00:50:57.679 --> 00:51:04.960
Like imagine you enter a room and the TV lights up and it tells you garage door open for 15 minutes in like big red text, so you cannot miss it.
00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:06.800
So there's like plenty of things you can do.
00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:10.079
Like it can speak to you through a speaker, it can manage your stuff.
00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:12.559
So this is a pretty interesting story.
00:51:12.960 --> 00:51:17.199
I I love it because it's so futuristic, but it's like right now, that's crazy.
00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:24.639
Manager on my router, I I made it a special account, so it's actually the admin of my router.
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:29.599
Eventually, it needs to help me to fix my sleep schedule, which is non-existent right now.
00:51:29.840 --> 00:51:37.280
So it should know that it's late for me and just turn off the internet on all of my devices, so I'm not able to do anything after a certain time.
00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:47.280
And the nice thing is like if there's any problems with the router, my wife can now text this bot, which is like we have Tony Stark, who is in charge of uh the smart home and in charge of the router and everything.
00:51:47.440 --> 00:51:51.360
And she is technical, but she doesn't want to fiddle with the UI of routers and stuff.
00:51:51.440 --> 00:51:57.360
She can just text him and be like, hey, I don't know, I want the TV unblocked because of whatever reason, or we're just managing anything.
00:51:57.519 --> 00:52:02.239
Like the internet is down and she can check what is happening and what is going on, and blah blah blah.
00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:04.400
So this is a useful use case.
00:52:04.639 --> 00:52:06.320
That's amazing, yeah.
00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:08.960
Wireless weight sensors everywhere.
00:52:09.039 --> 00:52:10.400
This is not implemented.
00:52:10.559 --> 00:52:11.519
Uh, I will.
00:52:11.679 --> 00:52:21.760
So there's like these cheap sensors you can buy from Alibaba or Timo or whatever, and you can put them under your chairs, uh, sofa, bed, whatever.
00:52:21.920 --> 00:52:26.480
So anytime you go on it, um, your smartphone will know that it's occupied.
00:52:26.639 --> 00:52:29.360
And then you can inject that context to open claw.
00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:34.239
So when it talks to you, it will know where you're sitting, whether something is occupied or not.
00:52:34.320 --> 00:52:35.679
So it can be way more useful.
00:52:35.840 --> 00:52:40.079
When you tell it do something, it will know ah, he's in that room, probably doing that.
00:52:40.239 --> 00:52:46.079
So, as we said, the more you give it, the better it's gonna be as your uh assistant and helper.
00:52:48.800 --> 00:52:50.559
We're just entering the craziness, by the way.
00:52:50.639 --> 00:52:57.920
It's um I made a skill where I can take a selfie or I can upload a photo from my from an outfit which I'm wearing.
00:52:58.079 --> 00:53:10.800
My outfits are affordable, and it's using like a pipeline of GPT nano banana and a bunch of other things to extract the items, clean them up, classify them by color, by type, whether it's shoes, clothes, like shirts, whatever.
00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:22.400
And then eventually I want to be build like a wardrobe type functionality which is like giving you matching outfits and maybe helping you dress better, and maybe ordering clothes and telling you you should donate some clothes and stuff like that.
00:53:22.719 --> 00:53:25.360
So this is work in progress, but it's just yeah.
00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:37.840
Tell me if you need there because my fiance, she's a personal stylist for men, and she's like dreaming about that because you know she works with men and she has to clean the wardrobe and everything, and that's a big, big job every time.
00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:38.400
So, yeah.
00:53:38.559 --> 00:53:40.719
Yeah, this one is a pretty cool one as well.
00:53:40.960 --> 00:53:43.360
Yeah, smart laundry baskets.
00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:48.239
I want to put uh sensors, like weight sensors, in the laundry basket so we can know when it's getting too full.
00:53:48.480 --> 00:53:56.480
The bot should do something, maybe make some light red or text us or do something to figure out like, hey, I already gave it like a laundry skill.
00:53:56.559 --> 00:54:04.800
I'm teaching it because we have like a smart uh dryer and we have like a smart uh clothes washer, and they can be connected to the smartphone.
00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:11.920
The only thing that's missing is the laundry baskets, so that way open claw or even open claw can build the automations and then not bother with this.
00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:20.320
The idea is to make the laundry cycle smart enough that we don't forget things in the dryer, we don't forget things in the washer, the laundry baskets are not overflowing and blah, blah, blah.
00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:23.360
So to kind of make this uh better.
00:54:23.599 --> 00:54:24.400
This is insane.
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:26.719
I'm waiting for my 3D printer to arrive.
00:54:26.880 --> 00:54:40.480
I want to make like the pantry where we have like spices and when we hold other things to have like holes for the jars, and then every hole to have like a weight sensor underneath and to to basically monitor the entire situation and know if we're running low on something.
00:54:40.639 --> 00:54:47.440
So when it's gonna run, um when it's gonna order groceries, it should look at the camera that's pointed at the fridge to see the fridge.
00:54:47.599 --> 00:54:52.159
It should look at the weight sensors for the pantry and make a rough plan of what are we missing.
00:54:52.320 --> 00:55:00.159
And even if it makes a mistake, it's nicer to have your groceries magically delivered than you going and opening and checking what do we need to buy and blah blah blah.
00:55:00.320 --> 00:55:01.360
This is a bit futuristic.
00:55:01.440 --> 00:55:04.639
I haven't done it, but it's on my list of crazy things to do.
00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:06.400
Sleep tracking, this is pretty obvious.
00:55:06.480 --> 00:55:07.280
You can connect your whoop.
00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:12.639
I connected my whoop and it's just giving me like a nice dashboard of how am I sleeping and stuff.
00:55:12.880 --> 00:55:23.360
I built this dashboard for blood test analysis, uh, where I upload my PDFs from the last few months, and it gives me an AI summary of how everything is going.
00:55:23.519 --> 00:55:28.320
And you don't need AI to see that I'm overweight right now and I have cholesterol issues.
00:55:28.480 --> 00:55:40.639
So, but it's instead of fixing that, I'm making dashboards for analyzing because it can tell you if something is going up, something's going down, whether you need to check something, and and blah blah blah.
00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:47.280
That's cool, and you can mix everything actually like um you sleep, your blood work, um, all these stucks together.
00:55:47.519 --> 00:55:53.360
Yes, and yeah, yes, I uh I've built Benji, which is like a Life OS app.
00:55:53.519 --> 00:56:12.480
I don't know if you know it or not, but in Benji, I've been building it for three years, and it has to-dos, habits, sauna tracking, gym tracking, um, fasting, hydration, food, macros, anything that you might need from 30 apps, Benji has it in one app because I wanted to build like a Life OS.
00:56:12.719 --> 00:56:18.719
When I saw OpenClaw, I realized Benji can maybe play a part in the Life OS.
00:56:18.880 --> 00:56:26.000
But the amount of things that you can do with like a fluid agent that generates UIs on the fly and generates mini apps that work for me.
00:56:26.239 --> 00:56:32.159
It's way more powerful than something like Benji because Benji might work for me, but it might not work for you.
00:56:32.320 --> 00:56:41.519
I might build this like blood analysis thing and put it into Benji, but then someone will be like, um, I don't care about cholesterol, I want to have something else on top.
00:56:41.599 --> 00:56:45.119
Someone will be like, I don't like how these dashboards look like, I will like charts.
00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:53.199
So we're entering that era of like, I can either make an app like Benji with trillion configuration and options, right?
00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:55.679
So everyone can configure their own thing.
00:56:55.840 --> 00:57:02.480
But I think we're entering the era of like, you want software that's like highly specific to you and your case only.
00:57:02.639 --> 00:57:08.800
So I might give you the prompt that to build this, but then you build it and then you continue tweaking it on your own.
00:57:08.880 --> 00:57:14.480
And my blood analysis dashboard and yours have nothing in common because yours is specifically yours.
00:57:14.800 --> 00:57:17.840
Yeah, still have cholesterol, but yeah, I understand.
00:57:20.639 --> 00:57:32.400
And just you have to parenthesis uh for someone who is listening, all this stuff that you build, like you know, for your life, for your business, for everything, it's only one open cloud installation.
00:57:32.800 --> 00:57:34.000
One, one, one, yeah.
00:57:34.320 --> 00:57:35.119
You can even do this.
00:57:35.199 --> 00:57:37.760
Like, the thing is, you don't need to use open claw for this.
00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:41.920
You can make this with claw clawed code, you can make this with codecs, you can make this with whatever.
00:57:42.079 --> 00:57:49.760
You can be like, build me a live OS, let's start simple, let's start with I don't know, habits, blah, blah, blah, and then you can continue adding blunt dashboards and other stuff.
00:57:49.840 --> 00:57:55.920
And you can build it with any agent and then expose it via REST API so your open claw can actually talk to it.
00:57:56.079 --> 00:58:00.559
So, not necessarily that you need to build all of these mini projects with OpenClaw itself.
00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:02.480
You can, but you don't have to.
00:58:02.960 --> 00:58:04.159
Okay, cool.
00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:11.920
It's just giving it something to connect to to be more useful, like it will know your sleep, it will know your blood, it will know your uh where you are and and other stuff.
00:58:12.239 --> 00:58:13.599
This is also crazy.
00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:24.480
Um, I gave it all of my bank transactions and I gave it email access to find all the emails with my dentist, and it built this like mouth visualization with all my teeth.
00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:27.039
And it even, like if you see here, it shows my implant.
00:58:27.199 --> 00:58:29.760
It shows that on this particular tooth I have an implant.
00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:35.440
And it shows when I hover a tooth, it can tell me the history of where I've done it, to which dentist I went to.
00:58:35.599 --> 00:58:40.400
So if I'm in a foreign country, let's say, and my tooth hurts and whatever, and they ask for my dental history.
00:58:40.480 --> 00:58:46.239
I can just open this and be like, this is the history, this is everything that happened on that particular tooth.
00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:54.800
So it's a it's a whimsical thing, not that useful, but it's um I think it's interesting to experiment with open claw.
00:58:54.880 --> 00:58:56.559
What can you build that's interesting for your life?
00:58:56.639 --> 00:58:58.320
You know, that's what I wanted to say.
00:58:58.400 --> 00:59:02.480
Like you were talking about, you know, this meme of like uh one agent, ten agent.
00:59:02.719 --> 00:59:13.920
Like right now, we are in the experimenting experimenting, well, I would not say the world phase, and like you want to try everything to just understand and see what's possible with it.
00:59:14.079 --> 00:59:17.519
I'm in the same mood, like I just want to try so many things with it.
00:59:17.760 --> 00:59:18.800
So, yeah, I understand.
00:59:19.039 --> 00:59:26.239
I am I'm so disappointed in people who are like even on the first days, they're like, Oh, so I tried this and I don't get the hype.
00:59:26.320 --> 00:59:26.639
I don't know.
00:59:26.719 --> 00:59:34.159
And I'm like, you cannot find three use cases in your life where you're grinding and doing stuff manually, and you might want to automate that.
00:59:34.880 --> 00:59:38.800
If you cannot do that, you're not gonna survive the upcoming years in IT.
00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:41.119
And so many people are proudly seeing it.
00:59:41.360 --> 00:59:46.559
So they're announcing their skill issue, like, oh, I tried this, it's overhyped, I don't know what to use it for.
00:59:46.719 --> 00:59:53.280
So it's like someone is giving you like a God computer that can do anything, and your first thought is like, I don't know what to use this for.
00:59:53.440 --> 00:59:55.119
It's like mind-blowing to me.
00:59:55.360 --> 01:00:00.960
And trust me, people will watch this video and there'll be comments, nah, I don't know if this is that useful.
01:00:01.039 --> 01:00:08.960
Like, my stupid dental plan might not be useful to you, but I hope this entire conversation something in you, in your life.
01:00:09.280 --> 01:00:13.119
Like, damn, I can solve this, I can solve that, I can start a business I always wanted.
01:00:13.280 --> 01:00:20.960
Like, if I show you this room right now, I I I my hobbies that was I was sleeping on, now I'm trying to resurrect them.
01:00:21.039 --> 01:00:24.159
Like, I got a 3 printer, a printer, like a bunch of hardware.
01:00:24.320 --> 01:00:27.440
I feel I can do anything right now, even when I sleep, you know.
01:00:27.599 --> 01:00:30.000
So why not toy with all these things?
01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:37.760
I I'm totally like for me, like it brought me like such an energy in me because I'm I have this God feeling as well.
01:00:37.840 --> 01:00:44.559
It's like the first time in my life that I can actually talk to a computer that has the capacity to build anything for me.
01:00:44.719 --> 01:00:48.559
He can code, he can send a message, he can do whatever I want.
01:00:49.199 --> 01:00:59.679
I'm not I'm not a developer, I'm not you know, I'm not a crazy back-end developer who understands all this stuff, and now I have access to all this stuff with Telegram.
01:00:59.920 --> 01:01:02.400
And I can hash anything, it will build it.
01:01:02.559 --> 01:01:09.519
And the thing is that I feel like I've been a guru the past few days because everyone around me is ordering a Mac Mini.
01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:16.800
And the thing is, and when they install it, my fiance, my friend yesterday who ordered it, the first thing they say, they are blown away.
01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:18.559
They are like, What is that?
01:01:18.719 --> 01:01:21.119
Like, and they just want to do that every single day.
01:01:21.199 --> 01:01:25.679
It becomes an addiction because you have this feeling of I can do anything.
01:01:25.920 --> 01:01:28.480
I think you have to be a little bit creative, right?
01:01:29.039 --> 01:01:31.840
To probably understand that possibility.
01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:33.039
Yeah, yeah.
01:01:33.840 --> 01:01:37.440
Well, I'm very worried about people who cannot understand.
01:01:37.519 --> 01:01:42.400
As you said, this is like a god computer that can do anything, man.
01:01:42.719 --> 01:01:44.639
Like it can build things for you.
01:01:44.880 --> 01:01:48.719
It's and people are like, I don't know what to use this for.
01:01:48.960 --> 01:01:51.039
Meaning, don't be an IT, man.
01:01:51.119 --> 01:01:53.840
Go go find another hobby, find another profession.
01:01:54.079 --> 01:02:00.719
Because in the upcoming years, you will only survive and have monetary success if you are creative.
01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:02.000
Everything else will be automated.
01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:03.440
All of your skills are for nothing.
01:02:03.599 --> 01:02:06.480
If you're a good coder, nobody cares, or you're a good designer.
01:02:07.599 --> 01:02:11.440
Having taste actually matters to differentiate yourself, but even that's gonna be solved.
01:02:11.519 --> 01:02:15.679
So, unless you're creative to know what to create with these things, you're absolutely cooked.
01:02:15.760 --> 01:02:16.559
It's over.
01:02:17.840 --> 01:02:21.679
Do you think like that's like a thought I had like that?
01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:25.440
It's also a replica of yourself in a way.
01:02:25.599 --> 01:02:28.400
For example, 130 million percent, yes.
01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:31.440
I gave I fed him all my content, right?
01:02:31.599 --> 01:02:34.559
I gave him all my content on X and everything.
01:02:34.639 --> 01:02:38.400
I told you, I told him, Go in that, read everything.
01:02:38.639 --> 01:02:44.960
He did an article on X that got like right now 170,000 impressions.
01:02:45.280 --> 01:02:50.159
I didn't write the single word of this, it's 100% my agent.
01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:53.119
And the thing is that I would have written this article.
01:02:53.360 --> 01:02:57.360
Like, it's exactly my thoughts, the way I write everything.
01:02:57.599 --> 01:03:05.280
Maybe a little bit better, you know, but like I feel like it's a replica of myself in a way that you didn't write something that's totally not me.
01:03:05.519 --> 01:03:09.519
And like this is yeah, maybe it's a mirror of people.
01:03:09.760 --> 01:03:14.000
If you don't have any idea or you'll struggle with it, maybe that's a mirror.
01:03:14.159 --> 01:03:14.880
I don't know.
01:03:15.280 --> 01:03:15.760
100%.
01:03:16.559 --> 01:03:23.119
Um, people have said this about social media, and it's true that how you use social media is a mirror of yourself.
01:03:23.280 --> 01:03:26.239
People are like, TikTok is bad, and this is bad, and blah blah blah.
01:03:26.400 --> 01:03:34.639
If you don't have hobbies and visions and whatever, sure, TikTok is bad and Reddit is bad, and Twitter is bad, and any tool is bad because you use it for doom scrolling.
01:03:34.800 --> 01:03:36.480
But I was always anti-TikTok.
01:03:36.559 --> 01:03:38.239
I opened a TikTok in the last month.
01:03:38.480 --> 01:03:40.159
The algorithm is so fucking good.
01:03:40.239 --> 01:03:48.320
And once it learns you that you're someone who wants to learn, to improve, to tinker with hardware and whatever, like I'm studying on this thing, basically.
01:03:48.400 --> 01:03:51.840
You know, every time I open it, I'm like, if I don't like something, I dislike it.
01:03:51.920 --> 01:03:57.199
But it knows that I line all of this hardware tinkering, 3D printing, so you can turn it to your own advantage.
01:03:57.280 --> 01:03:58.880
And it's the same thing with AI.
01:03:59.039 --> 01:04:06.159
Like, unless some people are like, I don't have anything to fix in my life, and it's like good man, then don't use open cloud.
01:04:06.320 --> 01:04:07.199
Like, what are you gonna fix?
01:04:07.280 --> 01:04:14.079
But you're also admitting that in this era of abundance, you cannot cop two and two together and create something.
01:04:14.400 --> 01:04:26.000
I don't think there's a person on earth who has their life settled enough, outside of this millionaires, billionaires, whatever, to say, well, my life is pretty perfect, I don't want to make it even better.
01:04:26.320 --> 01:04:29.519
Like, that's an insane sentence to say that your life is perfect.
01:04:29.760 --> 01:04:32.239
Like, first of all, most people need more money, right?
01:04:32.719 --> 01:04:44.159
Most people are stuck in in mortgages, in this and that, and this tool, if you study it, if you learn it, it will actually create businesses for you and help you make more money, pay off your mortgage, do this, do that.
01:04:44.320 --> 01:04:51.760
But move from the side of skepticism, move to the side of being enthusiastic, you know, about the future.
01:04:54.639 --> 01:04:56.079
There is one thing I want to say.
01:04:56.239 --> 01:05:03.119
If you're someone who has no idea but you have a business and you have like I don't know, a SAS or whatever product, use it for churn.
01:05:03.920 --> 01:05:08.480
I think that's the best the best way to use it and to be blown away.
01:05:08.559 --> 01:05:20.159
Because if you're not someone who is 100% into that, I used it not long ago, and it will fix so many things in your product that you will be blown away and you will earn money straight away.
01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:23.199
And I think that the best thing to do, like straight away.
01:05:23.280 --> 01:05:26.880
There is a lot of funders who will watch this, just try on your churn.
01:05:27.199 --> 01:05:28.000
First thing you do.
01:05:28.079 --> 01:05:30.480
If you don't have any idea how to use it, trying for that.
01:05:30.559 --> 01:05:33.760
Yeah, because that's not like having based or whatever.
01:05:33.920 --> 01:05:38.719
You will check the analytics and see what's wrong, yeah, and you will make money.
01:05:39.599 --> 01:05:40.000
100%.
01:05:40.880 --> 01:05:42.800
But even that takes some creativity, right?
01:05:42.880 --> 01:05:48.079
To come up with the use case is mind blowing to me that people don't come up with the use case that you just mentioned.
01:05:48.320 --> 01:05:48.639
Why?
01:05:48.719 --> 01:05:55.199
You don't need to spin up new creative things, but if you have an existing business, this cannot double, triple, quadruple your money.
01:05:55.760 --> 01:05:57.440
It's all of the processes in the business.
01:05:57.679 --> 01:05:59.840
There's a guy uh in Tinkerblah.
01:06:00.239 --> 01:06:02.719
He's also on Twitter, I'm forgetting his name.
01:06:03.199 --> 01:06:06.320
He automated their parents' entire business for selling tea.
01:06:06.559 --> 01:06:25.519
So you have like these old people who are like I don't know 70 or something sitting down, recording SOPs of how they're running their business, and then uh this guy automated their entire business processes, and now the these people are hooked running their entire business through Telegram, which is amazing.
01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:31.119
He saw that use case, like my parents or whoever they are, they're struggling, and they want to improve their business.
01:06:31.360 --> 01:06:33.039
And he did it within like a few days.
01:06:33.119 --> 01:06:35.519
It was wasn't something great, you know.
01:06:37.280 --> 01:06:48.079
Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's we say that, like, yeah, great guys and bear say it a lot, but like that's just like the the time of the creative, no, the ID guy, right?
01:06:48.239 --> 01:06:51.440
Like, yeah, now's the family guy, yeah.
01:06:51.760 --> 01:06:54.239
Duck yeah, what can I do for my dog?
01:06:55.440 --> 01:07:00.480
I I I made a bot that like takes care of all these things: medicine, vet visits, teeth cleaning, grooming, all truck.
01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:07.760
It's just doesn't have any special skills, but it's contained enough that I taught it, hey, you only care about my dog and nothing else.
01:07:07.840 --> 01:07:10.880
You don't need to worry about the home, the bills, the other stuff.
01:07:11.039 --> 01:07:12.719
Um, Mac Studio dashboard.
01:07:12.800 --> 01:07:13.360
This is pretty cool.
01:07:13.440 --> 01:07:19.519
I made this dashboard for managing my Mac Studio and stuff, which has like a trillion widgets and gadgets.
01:07:19.599 --> 01:07:23.039
And um, I made a mobile dashboard for Mac Studio.
01:07:23.119 --> 01:07:25.679
So basically, is there a slide about my Android phone?
01:07:25.840 --> 01:07:26.559
There's not.
01:07:26.719 --> 01:07:31.760
So I switched to an Android phone just so I can fully integrate OpenClaw in my life.
01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:36.239
And now I'm vibe coding Android apps, something that I've never done in my life before.
01:07:36.480 --> 01:07:42.960
And the cool thing is they can appear on your phone and they can self-upulate and they could do anything because it's Android without anyone's approval.
01:07:43.119 --> 01:07:50.960
So I made like this mobile dashboard to monitor the computer where OpenClaw and my Docker and everything else is working on.
01:07:51.360 --> 01:08:00.159
Um, another use case for having a dedicated Mac Studio or Mac Mini is all of my dev servers are running there, not on my MacBook Pro.
01:08:00.480 --> 01:08:06.480
Meaning, even when I'm out of town, when my MacBook is closed or whatever, the processes are running on that computer.
01:08:06.639 --> 01:08:11.679
They're served on nice domains, so they're not served on a port like 5.1.73 that I need to guess.
01:08:11.760 --> 01:08:12.800
They have nice domains.
01:08:12.880 --> 01:08:16.640
And I can be chatting through my Telegram, Discord, MacBook, whatever.
01:08:16.800 --> 01:08:20.960
And it does the heavy lifting on the Mac Studio, which means my MacBook stays cool.
01:08:21.119 --> 01:08:23.439
It doesn't run all the processes, it doesn't do a lot of shit.
01:08:23.520 --> 01:08:29.439
It just opens the URL and I tell it what to change, but the code remains on the on the Mac Studio.
01:08:31.039 --> 01:08:31.920
Skill syncing.
01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:37.600
I made something that syncs all of my skills between the MacBook, Mac, Claude, Codex, all the bots.
01:08:38.000 --> 01:08:41.279
Um PyFal is something interesting to set up.
01:08:41.520 --> 01:08:44.800
Um I think I want to put that in Tinker Club today as a challenge.
01:08:44.960 --> 01:08:46.319
Uh, have you heard of PyFole?
01:08:46.399 --> 01:08:47.840
Do you know what it is what it is or no?
01:08:48.079 --> 01:08:48.800
Not at all.
01:08:49.279 --> 01:08:52.880
You can ask your bot, set up PyFole on my network, and it will guide you.
01:08:53.119 --> 01:08:58.319
And any device on your network will not have any ads from Google, from Google Ads, from like nothing.
01:08:58.560 --> 01:09:06.319
Meaning your browsing will be a bit faster and everything will feel it doesn't block YouTube ads, but it blocks everything else.
01:09:06.560 --> 01:09:13.520
And if you have like a family, wife, girlfriend, husband, whatever, you can install uh Tail Scale on their phones.
01:09:13.600 --> 01:09:15.439
So you're basically all on the same network.
01:09:15.680 --> 01:09:21.439
And all of their devices, like if you have kids, is especially useful to not have your kids tapped on ads.
01:09:21.600 --> 01:09:24.079
So it will block ads on your entire network.
01:09:24.239 --> 01:09:30.800
And even when you go out on your phone uh using Tail Scale, it will connect to your home network first and it will clean all the ads.
01:09:30.880 --> 01:09:35.199
So whether you're home or a trip, whatever, you will not see ads in your life.
01:09:35.359 --> 01:09:37.439
And I knew about this for like 10 years.
01:09:37.600 --> 01:09:40.479
I was just too lazy to set it up, and now I was just chilling on my bed.
01:09:40.560 --> 01:09:43.359
I'm like, hey, block my ads at home, you know.
01:09:44.000 --> 01:09:46.640
So you just asked your agent and it worked.
01:09:47.760 --> 01:09:49.600
I mean, let's not make it that magical.
01:09:49.680 --> 01:09:58.960
It took a bunch of back and forth, you know, like and it will ask you to do certain things in your router, or it can use the browser with clicks to set it up in your router too.
01:09:59.039 --> 01:10:03.039
So it's not as magical, but it was set up in like less than 30 minutes, let's say.
01:10:03.119 --> 01:10:04.960
And then that's amazing.
01:10:05.039 --> 01:10:07.199
Yeah, you you don't have ads on your network.
01:10:07.359 --> 01:10:15.119
I gave it this skill for making diagrams, and I self-hosted Excalidraw, so it doesn't go to excalidraw.com.
01:10:15.199 --> 01:10:19.920
Now I have Excalidraw running on my Mac Studio for free, and I have like my own instance.
01:10:20.000 --> 01:10:23.039
So my diagrams don't end up on anyone's servers.
01:10:23.359 --> 01:10:25.039
I self-hosted N8N.
01:10:25.119 --> 01:10:27.039
I haven't used this for anything, honestly, yet.
01:10:27.199 --> 01:10:35.359
It was just magical to me that I was bored in bed and I just texted my bot, and like one minute later, it gives me a link to like, hey, here's your N8N, here's your password login.
01:10:35.520 --> 01:10:36.880
And now I'm running that fully locally.
01:10:37.039 --> 01:10:38.960
I don't need to use N8N in the cloud.
01:10:39.279 --> 01:10:41.279
So that was pretty nice.
01:10:41.520 --> 01:10:44.319
Um I moved everything to markdown files.
01:10:44.399 --> 01:10:47.039
I'm not using Notion anymore, coda, nothing.
01:10:47.680 --> 01:10:52.800
The platform of the future is just using markdown files and just modify them through your bot.
01:10:52.880 --> 01:10:53.520
That's it.
01:10:53.840 --> 01:10:59.520
No more hidden interfaces, cloud, AI, payments, databases, whatever.
01:10:59.600 --> 01:11:01.760
Everything is a markdown file, everything is local.
01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:03.039
Why is that?
01:11:04.640 --> 01:11:07.920
Because the bots work better when they have local files to work with.
01:11:08.159 --> 01:11:13.199
They can use local tools like grep and whatever to quickly navigate the files and find and write.
01:11:13.439 --> 01:11:17.520
They work way quicker than actually connecting to an API that changes all the time.
01:11:17.600 --> 01:11:21.920
And we can go through the last few use cases and we can wrap up because I'm going out of voice.
01:11:22.079 --> 01:11:22.960
Yeah, yeah.
01:11:23.359 --> 01:11:26.880
Um, self-focused Wikipedia is a pretty useful example.
01:11:27.119 --> 01:11:33.920
You can tell your open claw to find everything that it knows about you and make your own family Wikipedia.
01:11:34.000 --> 01:11:37.680
And it's silly to look at your life, but you read it like Wikipedia articles.
01:11:37.760 --> 01:11:42.239
Like Kinsley drinks instant coffee exclusively, no fancy machines, no rituals, no waiting.
01:11:42.479 --> 01:11:47.119
And it even links parts of your life, so about your work, about your family, about your wife.
01:11:47.359 --> 01:11:49.760
So it's a fun experiment, not very useful.
01:11:50.239 --> 01:11:51.359
I think it's useful.
01:11:51.439 --> 01:11:55.359
Like any backup like this can be useful for your next setup.
01:11:55.439 --> 01:11:59.119
Like, let's say tomorrow you open cloud, there is like a malware or whatever, you lose it.
01:11:59.199 --> 01:12:02.159
It's amazing for all this backup as well.
01:12:03.279 --> 01:12:06.399
Um, and it also can be useful.
01:12:06.479 --> 01:12:11.840
Like, there's some people in our Tinker Club that actually use this as the main memory in a way.
01:12:12.159 --> 01:12:15.840
Because when it's writes in Wikipedia style, it writes about facts.
01:12:16.239 --> 01:12:17.840
Wikipedia is fact-based, right?
01:12:17.920 --> 01:12:19.920
Like that happened on that date, and blah blah blah.
01:12:20.159 --> 01:12:29.279
So the bots kind of like to read from a database that's all with facts, and it's not the memory files are too bloated, and it's seeing all sorts of shit in the memory files.
01:12:29.359 --> 01:12:34.319
But when it's writing something in the Wikipedia, it writes it as a fact, like as if a war happened.
01:12:34.399 --> 01:12:40.560
You know, on day 14th, Kitchen decided to do this, this, and that, and the battle of the kitchen happened on blah blah blah.
01:12:40.720 --> 01:12:42.399
So it is useful.
01:12:42.640 --> 01:12:45.439
Uh old Android tablet, ADB automation.
01:12:45.520 --> 01:12:52.399
Uh, I have a tablet that I found plugged into Mac Studio, gave it full access to tap and control the tablet.
01:12:52.479 --> 01:12:58.399
And this is pretty useful because uh the native apps on Android and on iOS, they don't have captcha.
01:12:58.720 --> 01:13:08.399
So if you're trying to do something on the web and you're running into captcha all the time, you can instead of that teach your open claw to tap on an Android tablet, and there's no native apps with captchas.
01:13:08.479 --> 01:13:19.680
So you can use Amazon, Timu, shopping apps, grocery delivery apps, whatever, through the thingy tapping on it, and they'll never gonna be blocked, and it's you're never gonna be detected as a bot.
01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:28.479
So I'm trying to replace most of my browser automations with Android native apps just because it's more frictionless.
01:13:29.920 --> 01:13:32.000
The watch tracking is the thing that you ask me.
01:13:32.159 --> 01:13:39.600
You can buy these five euro devices called like ESP32, and you can flash them with like a Bluetooth tracking thingy and put them around your home.
01:13:39.760 --> 01:13:45.760
And anytime you move with a Bluetooth device, it can be any watch, doesn't need to be Apple Watch or like any other Bluetooth thing you have.
01:13:45.920 --> 01:13:48.720
It can detect the proximity that you're in that room precisely.
01:13:48.880 --> 01:13:52.800
So it can know whether you're on your desk, whether you're in the kitchen, whether you're here and there.
01:13:52.960 --> 01:13:59.359
And as we said, the more you give to your open claw, the more it knows, the better it is to help you with with context.
01:13:59.520 --> 01:14:06.399
Because it will know GPS location is at home, room location is in the kitchen, and he's asking me to, I don't know, turn off lights or do something.
01:14:06.560 --> 01:14:09.520
It can do a better job if it knows where you where you are.
01:14:10.399 --> 01:14:12.319
Oh man, this is an insane list.
01:14:12.479 --> 01:14:13.600
Custom podcast.
01:14:14.079 --> 01:14:18.720
I was annoyed by Bill Boer talking about sports and politics.
01:14:18.960 --> 01:14:38.880
So I made a thing where open cloud downloads these podcasts as mp3 files, transcribes them, cuts out the politics, cuts out the bullshit, sports adds everything, stitches them back together in an MP3 file, and serves me my own locally hosted podcast server where I can listen to my favorite podcasts, but there's no bullshit that I won, don't want to listen to.
01:14:39.039 --> 01:14:42.800
I will have I will have to get this because then everyone will do that with me.
01:14:43.039 --> 01:14:46.720
There's actually an I was joking.
01:14:46.800 --> 01:14:51.920
If you do this with Joe Rogan, you will get empty files, but sometimes he says useful things.
01:14:52.079 --> 01:14:55.039
Uh I ordered this, which I cannot wait for it to arrive.
01:14:55.199 --> 01:14:58.479
It's like a pebble ring uh with a mini button.
01:14:58.560 --> 01:15:00.000
You can see the button right here.
01:15:00.239 --> 01:15:10.720
And you can hold the button to dictate something to your finger, and then um it goes to their app, and from their app you can put in an API, like do whatever with it.
01:15:10.880 --> 01:15:18.479
So this will be very useful for like anytime you have a thought that needs to go to open claw, you can just do it on the pebble ring so you don't forget it.
01:15:18.640 --> 01:15:24.720
And it's more useful than a watch because the watch has the friction of you need to lift your hand up, you need to maybe press something or say something.
01:15:24.880 --> 01:15:34.720
And this you always have access to this finger, even when you're biking or doing whatever, and you can just say the thing, and any task that you have in mind will easily go to your open claw.
01:15:35.039 --> 01:15:36.000
That's good, actually.
01:15:36.079 --> 01:15:37.520
That's a pretty yeah.
01:15:37.760 --> 01:15:41.680
I actually got this watch yesterday and I already vibe-coded an app that does the same thing.
01:15:41.840 --> 01:15:48.399
So I have a complication here, and if I click it, I can say a command and it will listen to my voice and it just be done with it.
01:15:48.560 --> 01:15:56.000
And that goes to open claw, and open claw can see maybe I want to order groceries, maybe I want to do something, but it's more friction because I have to click it.
01:15:56.159 --> 01:15:58.159
This is right on the on the finger.
01:15:58.479 --> 01:16:00.399
Man, do you sleep sometimes?
01:16:00.880 --> 01:16:01.359
No, man.
01:16:01.840 --> 01:16:04.880
You can see my my eye bags like in the last month.
01:16:04.960 --> 01:16:07.920
I slept three to four hours every night, and it's annoying.
01:16:08.159 --> 01:16:13.199
Um but I'm gonna pay off my mortgage soon, so that's a that's a pro of that.
01:16:13.439 --> 01:16:14.399
Congrats then.
01:16:14.640 --> 01:16:27.439
Uh Android phone, not gonna go too deep into this, but Android is like way more powerful for open claw controlling it, so you can speak to me, clear my notifications, read my notifications, put on do not disturb, volume, brightness.
01:16:27.600 --> 01:16:30.800
So my phone is like another extension to the open claw.
01:16:30.960 --> 01:16:33.680
With iOS, like it couldn't do it couldn't do much.
01:16:33.840 --> 01:16:42.720
Uh, it can set up my log screen and wallpaper, it can use nano banana to make me like a dynamic wallpaper that's relevant to I don't know, maybe I'm in Prague and it's raining.
01:16:42.880 --> 01:16:51.680
So when I unlock my phone, it's gonna have a nice wallpaper of raining in Prague, plus maybe some painted reminder of like idiot, I don't know, it's your grandpa's birthday or whatever.
01:16:51.920 --> 01:16:52.960
So that's cool.
01:16:53.119 --> 01:16:54.479
It can fully control the phone.
01:16:54.560 --> 01:16:55.520
We already said that.
01:16:55.680 --> 01:16:58.479
It can read my notification center, which is pretty nice.
01:16:58.720 --> 01:17:05.119
Like if you send me a message on some platform that OpenClaw doesn't support, OpenClaw can actually read it from my notification center.
01:17:05.199 --> 01:17:07.920
It can be like, hey, this is urgent, check your phone.
01:17:08.079 --> 01:17:09.279
So that's nice.
01:17:09.439 --> 01:17:12.880
Uh it can display dialogues and fingerprint dialogues on my phone.
01:17:13.039 --> 01:17:15.279
Like, let's say I need to order food or whatever.
01:17:15.439 --> 01:17:18.319
It can show me a full screen dialogue like do you want sushi, pizza, or whatever?
01:17:18.399 --> 01:17:22.079
And I can click like a mini form without building an app.
01:17:22.319 --> 01:17:33.439
Or let's say it needs to deploy a super secure hidden website or whatever, it can show me a fingerprint dialogue, and only when I approve with the fingerprint, OpenClaw will continue doing whatever it's doing.
01:17:33.680 --> 01:17:35.439
So that's pretty nice.
01:17:35.920 --> 01:17:46.399
Um, I made a mini app store for myself because of course I didn't, uh, where I can text on Telegram and new Android apps will appear, or the old ones will get um updated.
01:17:46.560 --> 01:17:51.520
So anytime I want a new app on my phone, I can just be like, I don't know, a medication tracker or whatever.
01:17:51.680 --> 01:17:55.920
I can just conjure it in a few minutes and it appears as a fully native app on my phone.
01:17:56.079 --> 01:18:02.640
So it gets built on the Mac Studio, it gets stored on Mac Studio, and then it gets installed on the Android phone, which is pretty nuts.
01:18:02.800 --> 01:18:04.960
Um, of course, I made my own Android launcher.
01:18:05.039 --> 01:18:08.560
If you if people most people don't know what a launcher is, if you're an iOS person.
01:18:08.640 --> 01:18:13.520
So when I unlock my phone, basically, let me see if I can show you if I don't have something private.
01:18:13.840 --> 01:18:17.279
Uh when I unlock my phone, I'm going to my own launcher.
01:18:17.359 --> 01:18:21.680
There's no grid of icons, and this is fully customizable by OpenClaw.
01:18:21.840 --> 01:18:24.399
I made an entire video, we can link it on my channel.
01:18:24.560 --> 01:18:30.159
So anytime I unlock my phone, I see relevant things for my life like to-dos, habits, uh, medication, trip.
01:18:30.319 --> 01:18:33.680
The apps are changing dynamically or based on what's happening in my life.
01:18:33.840 --> 01:18:37.439
And open claw can iterate and build on this launcher even further.
01:18:37.600 --> 01:18:43.199
So when I want this launcher to change, I can just voice text that hey, I don't like, I don't know, the medication, we should change it.
01:18:43.279 --> 01:18:46.880
And a few seconds later, my entire home screen will change.
01:18:47.359 --> 01:18:48.319
So this is what I'm saying.
01:18:48.399 --> 01:18:52.800
Like Open Claw for me changed the game so much that I'm reinventing my entire life.
01:18:52.880 --> 01:18:55.119
Like I move to Android, I'm buying hardware.
01:18:55.199 --> 01:18:56.560
Like it's crazy, man.
01:18:56.800 --> 01:18:59.119
Let's finish like just a few more things.
01:18:59.359 --> 01:19:07.600
This is like for multi-agent management, so I can go to one of my bots and make sure it has the right skills, the right agents, the right memory, the right blah, blah, blah.
01:19:07.760 --> 01:19:11.600
So I needed a more visual place to manage my agents.
01:19:11.760 --> 01:19:15.039
Um, this is the app that I was telling you about that I'm making.
01:19:15.199 --> 01:19:20.960
It's like a Slack Discord-like interface for talking to your open claw, but in a more organized way.
01:19:21.039 --> 01:19:26.800
You can see here we have personal news, house, contractors, projects, blah, blah, blah.
01:19:26.880 --> 01:19:28.239
So it's a bit more organized.
01:19:28.479 --> 01:19:31.600
I hope that I'll have this available for everyone to download.
01:19:31.760 --> 01:19:33.439
This is the browser I was telling you about.
01:19:33.600 --> 01:19:36.159
So this is a browser only for agents to work in.
01:19:36.239 --> 01:19:38.880
You don't use it, you don't touch it, you don't click it.
01:19:39.119 --> 01:19:42.079
Um, this is a cool hardware project that I did.
01:19:42.159 --> 01:19:43.920
I have this running on my desk over there.
01:19:44.159 --> 01:19:46.319
So it's like a face for open claw.
01:19:46.479 --> 01:19:51.199
And if the gateway dies or something happens, it's gonna go dead and it's gonna beep to fix it.
01:19:51.359 --> 01:19:54.079
So it's like a little Tamagucci open claw.
01:19:54.319 --> 01:20:00.399
Uh, this is my crazy vision of like getting a Roomba and just putting a tablet or a GoPro on it.
01:20:00.720 --> 01:20:02.079
Uh oh, okay.
01:20:02.239 --> 01:20:05.039
So that's a screenshot from Tinker's Club.
01:20:05.119 --> 01:20:13.279
We do like a meeting twice per week, and we have all of these people discussing uh open clause, self-hosting, automation, LLM coding.
01:20:13.439 --> 01:20:26.319
When new models drop, like Opus and Codex, we call on a call and we have like a um priority meeting, however you call it, to like discuss what's new in and uh yeah, people.
01:20:26.560 --> 01:20:28.800
I I think I have a link here, and people can even use this code.
01:20:28.880 --> 01:20:33.600
Um this was the last slide at the meetup that I gave it to, and there was like a discount code for 20% off.
01:20:33.680 --> 01:20:38.479
If you want for your audience, we can give like a specific discount instead of using this particular one.
01:20:38.640 --> 01:20:42.800
So start the sharing here and well, kids.
01:20:42.880 --> 01:20:45.439
Uh I don't think if my brain can recover for that.
01:20:46.159 --> 01:20:48.000
I know, I know, I know.
01:20:48.319 --> 01:20:51.600
No, that was amazing, and that's really what I expected from you.
01:20:51.680 --> 01:21:00.479
Like, just all this idea, all this crazy thing that we can build now with OpenCloud and all these possibilities, like that's what I wanted to share.
01:21:00.640 --> 01:21:04.720
And I'm happy that you came here to share that because that's really the vision.
01:21:04.800 --> 01:21:08.640
Like, what's going to happen and what you're already building is crazy.
01:21:08.960 --> 01:21:10.239
When did you start actually?
01:21:10.319 --> 01:21:13.119
Just to know, like using OpenCloud the first time.
01:21:14.479 --> 01:21:21.199
I was one of the first users, but around September I tried to build, I had a version of my own OpenClaw.
01:21:21.359 --> 01:21:23.840
I just never connected it to Telegram and shit.
01:21:24.159 --> 01:21:26.880
So I was kind of preparing my skills and stuff.
01:21:26.960 --> 01:21:33.760
So when OpenClaw came, I was ready to move my skills from cloud code to open claw, and that's why I had so many use cases ready.
01:21:33.920 --> 01:21:39.439
Because I figured out wait, cloud code can be used for more than code, and that's basically open claw.
01:21:39.520 --> 01:21:44.479
It's like a thin layer on top of harnesses to do AI things for for you.
01:21:45.760 --> 01:21:48.720
Right, Kizay, thank you very much for coming here.
01:21:48.880 --> 01:21:51.439
I think we'll have to develop it again soon.
01:21:51.600 --> 01:22:00.239
And uh on my podcast so you have a chance to talk because I didn't know, I didn't learn anything about you and how you do things.
01:22:00.399 --> 01:22:03.039
So hopefully I'll do a chance to talk.
01:22:03.359 --> 01:22:04.479
And I will come then.
01:22:04.640 --> 01:22:07.199
And uh yeah, I will put all the links in the description.
01:22:07.279 --> 01:22:10.399
Uh everything you talked about, Tinker Club, of course.
01:22:10.800 --> 01:22:14.800
And if you want to learn more, go watch his YouTube channel.
01:22:15.039 --> 01:22:17.760
It will be linked in the description as well.
01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:18.960
And that's it.
01:22:19.119 --> 01:22:19.840
Thank you very much.
01:22:20.079 --> 01:22:20.800
Thank you so much, man.
01:22:21.119 --> 01:22:21.760
Appreciate it.