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Now here is another primetime bite. Breaking up.
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Now, in this Royal Rumble, backstage, you're in the classic
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blue locker rooms. And I love those blue locker rooms.
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You're just sitting there and Barbarian walks by. He bumps
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into you. And then Shawn Michaels and his new sexy
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boy gimmick walks by you.
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And you're like, Shawn Michaels!
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And they play this whole package about what just happened
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in the barbershop with Shawn Michaels. Well, actually, it was
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Marty Jannetty being afraid of Shawn Michaels jumping through the
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barbershop window, as Bobby Holman put it. But that tag
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team breaks up. So they write off Marty Jannetty. He's
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not going to be in the Royal Rumble. You know,
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we're going to have Volkov replaced in the Royal Rumble. Also,
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Hakui plays Brian Knobs, if you were curious. So this ends.
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They're supposed to have Marty Jannetty stay home. You know, hey,
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you're hurt.
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But also.
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an arrest happens because Marjorie gets in a fight at
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a bar as well.
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And the cops show up.
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Well, he's in possession of drugs.
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They arrest him.
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So now the storyline is no longer, Hey, you've been
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thrown through a barbershop window.
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You're hurt.
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It's, Oh, you've been arrested for drugs and you're fired.
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He doesn't come back until late of 92. Okay, Marty Jannetty,
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are you hearing that Marty Jannetty has suffered once again
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a terrible situation?
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Because also with these two, according to other.
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Rumors, Shawn Michaels and Marty Jannetty had a real bar
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fight themselves after Roddy Piper suggested that Shawn Michaels was
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the future of professional wrestling.
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Well, Marty took this to heart.
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Mm-hmm.
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Shawn Michaels and Mario Giannini actually have a real fist fight.
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But then this leads to more stories of Marty suggesting
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that they leave and they go to WCW. They'll have
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this money. But Marty is talking for Shawn Michaels and
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all these negotiations. Shawn Michaels is not involved with any
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of this. Marty's doing this all behind Shawn's back, which against, again,
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very obvious that Shawn doesn't like this. The Rockers break
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up on real television, probably in real life.
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Marty's out.
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Sean is the future of professional wrestling in the WWF.
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What were your thoughts on all of this? Because for
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a long time, I thought Marty would be the guy.
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It turns out it was Shawn Michaels.
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Yeah. I think I've mentioned that before too.
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I remember when I first saw those two come in
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and I thought Marty was the one who, you know,
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had his head on straight.
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Boy, how wrong I was.
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And it just shows you that, um, Yeah, in a
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lot of ways, Marty couldn't get out of his own
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way as far as doing the right thing.
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He just seemed to always do the opposite.
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And I think he started to see as they progressed,
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and they kept getting better and better, and they were
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among the top tier of the tag teams.
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And he thinks everything's awesome. It's all great. I mean,
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he's happy. This is good. Let's just keep this going.
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And in the meantime, Sean's starting to think of, you know,
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I don't want to be a tag team forever. I
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think I could do really well as a solo. And
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I think Vince McMahon is seeing it. So I think
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in a lot of ways, it became a little like
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desperation on Marty's part that he's, you know, if I can,
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you know, things are going south here.
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I can see where it's going. And Sean is, you know,
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wants to split this up and he splits us up.
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This is over.
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So he starts thinking, well, if I can get us
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a deal and it's big money and it's more than
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we're making here, well, maybe Sean will go for it.
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And then we can keep this rolling.
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And I don't, you know, no matter, like you said,
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first of all, I'm sure Sean didn't appreciate him trying
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to work a deal without him knowing anything.
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That certainly didn't, you know, help matters. And then.
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He'd already made up his mind. You know, Sean knew
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what he wanted his future to be. And, and he
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was willing to take that risk and become a solo performer.
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And so that, that didn't help.
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And when, and when it came down to, and I,
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and they did have that confrontation because, and justly so
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in a sense, because that was just brewing and it
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was going to happen. And, And I know that, you know,
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like Sean wasn't happy with that. So it was just
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a matter of time and you could see it. They were,
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you know, when coming in and when they first got
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rolling and everything you could do is the best of friends, man.
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You did the stories about the parties the night before
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and the girls and all this, you know, wild everything.
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And then you started to see it start. You could
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just see it started to wear and it wasn't, you know,
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I don't know if that was Sean maturing or him
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just seeing that this isn't good. And he's not going
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to help me get to that next place. And I
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think a lot of the stuff, and Sean was guilty
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of it too, was reckless with what their behavior was.
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Oh, yeah.
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That, you know, eventually you get away with it and
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get away with it and get away with it until
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you don't. And then when you don't, it's a bad thing.
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And like that situation with Marty, what the hell are
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you doing? First of all, what the hell are you
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doing getting into a fight? And what the hell are
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you doing carrying something that's going to get you arrested?
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And when you're associated with that, you're going to go
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down with him.
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So, yeah.
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Yeah, there's a lot to Marty Jenner.
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I think he actually might hold the world record in
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the WWF for being the person who got fired and
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rehired the most.
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And that's not because he was so good.
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Yeah, but see if he was so good.
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Every time they kept bringing him back.
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Yeah, they wouldn't have. They don't take a chance on
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problems unless they like you and you bring something to
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the table. Marty was a great performer. He really was.
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I always wondered if he really would have been able
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to focus and work that way that maybe he would
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have been a very successful solo performer too. But He
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just couldn't, as I said, couldn't get out of his
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own way. It just always, you know, when the fork came,
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he always chose the wrong one.
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Like, yeah, that's a good idea. Or yeah, I'll go there.
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Or I'll go out and do this.
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Instead of, you know, no, I got to, if I
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want to be successful, this is the way I got
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to go.
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And it's like, eh, I'd rather go have some fun.
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Shawn Michaels, though, he also reinvents himself. He's no longer
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dressing up like the Rockers. He's dressed up as, you know,
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the sexy boy character. They even start dropping off.
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BK.
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The Elvis scenarios where like.
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Shawn Michaels has left the building, as they would do
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for Elvis back in the day. Mario Giannetti, every time
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he came back, he was just Mario Giannetti who's in
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the Rockers. He never reinvented himself. He was always dressed
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the same. The music was the same.
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The tassels. Again, nothing against an act that works, but
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Shawn Michaels.
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Gotta evolve.
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Survivor Series 1991, Shawn Michaels is in a Survivor Series match.
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The Rockers are together, and.
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One year later, Survivor Series 1992, Shawn Michaels is in
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the main event for the World Wrestling Federation Championship against
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Bret the Hitman Hart. I think Shawn Michaels made the
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right decision on betting on himself being a single star
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versus staying in a tag team that was doing well.
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You know, it's like staying in a job. Hey, we're
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doing a great job here. Everything's going great. But I
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want more. And he definitely got more.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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You know, for the long-term success. You saw it, you know,
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because you said they were. They were great. They were
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at the top. But he wanted more and was willing
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to take that chance. Because he believed in himself that
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much and knew that that was the only thing.
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That was what was going to keep him there. He
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did it.
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I love, though, that you're backstage in the blue locker
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room because, like, everyone's just walking by you and you're like, oh,
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I'm back here and there's so many people and all
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these stars and, oh, Sean Michael. Like, Sean Michael just
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appears out of nowhere. But Barbarian gave you a good old,
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he shoved you good. And you're like, oh, okay.
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Let's not do this to me, please. I loved it.
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Just don't go to a diner with him.
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Please, God, no.
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Don't go to a bar with Margetti and Shawn Michaels either.
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You know what? Just stay in your hotel, Mooney.
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Okay.
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Right. Just go from.
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Point A to point B, wear a hoodie, cover yourself.
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Don't get in trouble.
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Now here is another primetime bite. Breaking up.
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Now, in this Royal Rumble, backstage, you're in the classic
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blue locker rooms. And I love those blue locker rooms.
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You're just sitting there and Barbarian walks by. He bumps
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into you. And then Shawn Michaels and his new sexy
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boy gimmick walks by you.
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And you're like, Shawn Michaels!
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And they play this whole package about what just happened
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in the barbershop with Shawn Michaels. Well, actually, it was
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Marty Jannetty being afraid of Shawn Michaels jumping through the
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barbershop window, as Bobby Holman put it. But that tag
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team breaks up. So they write off Marty Jannetty. He's
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not going to be in the Royal Rumble. You know,
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we're going to have Volkov replaced in the Royal Rumble. Also,
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Hakui plays Brian Knobs, if you were curious. So this ends.
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They're supposed to have Marty Jannetty stay home. You know, hey,
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you're hurt.
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But also.
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an arrest happens because Marjorie gets in a fight at
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a bar as well.
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And the cops show up.
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Well, he's in possession of drugs.
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They arrest him.
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So now the storyline is no longer, Hey, you've been
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thrown through a barbershop window.
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You're hurt.
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It's, Oh, you've been arrested for drugs and you're fired.
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He doesn't come back until late of 92. Okay, Marty Jannetty,
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are you hearing that Marty Jannetty has suffered once again
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a terrible situation?
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Because also with these two, according to other.
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Rumors, Shawn Michaels and Marty Jannetty had a real bar
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fight themselves after Roddy Piper suggested that Shawn Michaels was
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the future of professional wrestling.
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Well, Marty took this to heart.
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Mm-hmm.
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Shawn Michaels and Mario Giannini actually have a real fist fight.
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But then this leads to more stories of Marty suggesting
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that they leave and they go to WCW. They'll have
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this money. But Marty is talking for Shawn Michaels and
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all these negotiations. Shawn Michaels is not involved with any
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of this. Marty's doing this all behind Shawn's back, which against, again,
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very obvious that Shawn doesn't like this. The Rockers break
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up on real television, probably in real life.
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Marty's out.
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Sean is the future of professional wrestling in the WWF.
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What were your thoughts on all of this? Because for
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a long time, I thought Marty would be the guy.
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It turns out it was Shawn Michaels.
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Yeah. I think I've mentioned that before too.
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I remember when I first saw those two come in
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and I thought Marty was the one who, you know,
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had his head on straight.
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Boy, how wrong I was.
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And it just shows you that, um, Yeah, in a
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lot of ways, Marty couldn't get out of his own
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way as far as doing the right thing.
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He just seemed to always do the opposite.
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And I think he started to see as they progressed,
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and they kept getting better and better, and they were
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among the top tier of the tag teams.
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And he thinks everything's awesome. It's all great. I mean,
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he's happy. This is good. Let's just keep this going.
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And in the meantime, Sean's starting to think of, you know,
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I don't want to be a tag team forever. I
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think I could do really well as a solo. And
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I think Vince McMahon is seeing it. So I think
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in a lot of ways, it became a little like
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desperation on Marty's part that he's, you know, if I can,
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you know, things are going south here.
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I can see where it's going. And Sean is, you know,
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wants to split this up and he splits us up.
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This is over.
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So he starts thinking, well, if I can get us
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a deal and it's big money and it's more than
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we're making here, well, maybe Sean will go for it.
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And then we can keep this rolling.
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And I don't, you know, no matter, like you said,
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first of all, I'm sure Sean didn't appreciate him trying
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to work a deal without him knowing anything.
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That certainly didn't, you know, help matters. And then.
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He'd already made up his mind. You know, Sean knew
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what he wanted his future to be. And, and he
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was willing to take that risk and become a solo performer.
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And so that, that didn't help.
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And when, and when it came down to, and I,
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and they did have that confrontation because, and justly so
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in a sense, because that was just brewing and it
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was going to happen. And, And I know that, you know,
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like Sean wasn't happy with that. So it was just
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a matter of time and you could see it. They were,
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you know, when coming in and when they first got
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rolling and everything you could do is the best of friends, man.
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You did the stories about the parties the night before
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and the girls and all this, you know, wild everything.
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And then you started to see it start. You could
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just see it started to wear and it wasn't, you know,
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I don't know if that was Sean maturing or him
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just seeing that this isn't good. And he's not going
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to help me get to that next place. And I
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think a lot of the stuff, and Sean was guilty
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of it too, was reckless with what their behavior was.
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Oh, yeah.
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That, you know, eventually you get away with it and
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get away with it and get away with it until
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you don't. And then when you don't, it's a bad thing.
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And like that situation with Marty, what the hell are
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you doing? First of all, what the hell are you
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doing getting into a fight? And what the hell are
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you doing carrying something that's going to get you arrested?
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And when you're associated with that, you're going to go
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down with him.
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So, yeah.
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Yeah, there's a lot to Marty Jenner.
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I think he actually might hold the world record in
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the WWF for being the person who got fired and
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rehired the most.
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And that's not because he was so good.
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Yeah, but see if he was so good.
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Every time they kept bringing him back.
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Yeah, they wouldn't have. They don't take a chance on
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problems unless they like you and you bring something to
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the table. Marty was a great performer. He really was.
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I always wondered if he really would have been able
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to focus and work that way that maybe he would
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have been a very successful solo performer too. But He
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just couldn't, as I said, couldn't get out of his
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own way. It just always, you know, when the fork came,
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he always chose the wrong one.
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Like, yeah, that's a good idea. Or yeah, I'll go there.
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Or I'll go out and do this.
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Instead of, you know, no, I got to, if I
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want to be successful, this is the way I got
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to go.
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And it's like, eh, I'd rather go have some fun.
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Shawn Michaels, though, he also reinvents himself. He's no longer
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dressing up like the Rockers. He's dressed up as, you know,
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the sexy boy character. They even start dropping off.
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BK.
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The Elvis scenarios where like.
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Shawn Michaels has left the building, as they would do
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for Elvis back in the day. Mario Giannetti, every time
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he came back, he was just Mario Giannetti who's in
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the Rockers. He never reinvented himself. He was always dressed
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the same. The music was the same.
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The tassels. Again, nothing against an act that works, but
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Shawn Michaels.
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Gotta evolve.
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Survivor Series 1991, Shawn Michaels is in a Survivor Series match.
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The Rockers are together, and.
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One year later, Survivor Series 1992, Shawn Michaels is in
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the main event for the World Wrestling Federation Championship against
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Bret the Hitman Hart. I think Shawn Michaels made the
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right decision on betting on himself being a single star
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versus staying in a tag team that was doing well.
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You know, it's like staying in a job. Hey, we're
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doing a great job here. Everything's going great. But I
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want more. And he definitely got more.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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You know, for the long-term success. You saw it, you know,
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because you said they were. They were great. They were
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at the top. But he wanted more and was willing
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to take that chance. Because he believed in himself that
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much and knew that that was the only thing.
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That was what was going to keep him there. He
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did it.
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I love, though, that you're backstage in the blue locker
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room because, like, everyone's just walking by you and you're like, oh,
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I'm back here and there's so many people and all
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these stars and, oh, Sean Michael. Like, Sean Michael just
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appears out of nowhere. But Barbarian gave you a good old,
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he shoved you good. And you're like, oh, okay.
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Let's not do this to me, please. I loved it.
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Just don't go to a diner with him.
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Please, God, no.
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Don't go to a bar with Margetti and Shawn Michaels either.
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You know what? Just stay in your hotel, Mooney.
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Okay.
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Right. Just go from.
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Point A to point B, wear a hoodie, cover yourself.
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Don't get in trouble.
