P&S ModCast 74 - Network Support

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Is this going to happen anytime soon?
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No. It's actually live right now.
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Hey, everyone.
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Matt Lanphier here with Primary and Secondary. This is Modcast
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number 74. We have no plans on anything that we're
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going to be discussing. We're going to be completely just
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BSing and watching Wix drink coffee. Very nice. Might as
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well do some intros. So yeah, I have that little
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bit of background in law enforcement. A lot of video games,
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probably more video game hours than law enforcement. Yeah. Some
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gun stuff. A little bit of Facebook.
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Facebook.
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Uh let's see i'm a professional coffee drinker now um sponsored.
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And everything.
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Who are you sponsored by uh.
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Main gun coffee company actually they're uh pretty good.
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As a non-coffee drinker that sounds delicious what's your favorite roast.
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So actually, I've only tried the one so far. I've
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only tried the First Sergeant one. It's really good.
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Now, this being primary and secondary, we need to get
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into some detail here. It's really good compared to....
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So, I mean, it blows away all the K-Cup stuff
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that you get from the supermarket, obviously.
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I mean, if you.
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If you're a fan of like dark, like fucking just
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jet fuel coffee that makes you feel like your heart's
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going to pop, then, uh, you know, this is, this
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is a good one.
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And it's main gun coffee. It's not that funny.
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Adam.
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Uh, what do we, do you want like a 30 second?
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Who the fuck am I?
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Yeah, pretty much.
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I'm Adam Peeney. I'm with Raven Concealment Systems.
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I've been in the firearms industry in one way, shape,
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or form for almost a decade now. I started out
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in gun shops as a gun shop punk. Went up
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through there, worked at LWRC, done extended American defense manufacturing,
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war sport industries, and been with Raven since December of
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last year, which is crazy that it's almost coming up
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on a year now.
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And, yeah, I'm the national accounts manager there.
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So anything with Kydex polymer concealment, I hopefully can have
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some answers for you.
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But other than that, I'm an asshole. That's usually socially acceptable.
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Along with that, Magwells and pistol optic mounts.
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We do make some accoutrements for the Glock pistols with
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our Freya Magwell and our Baylor optics mount, which is–
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Gotten a lot of press.
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Recently because we released the RMR version.
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And there's a bunch of people that have finally gotten
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their hands on it or making videos of them beating
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it off of tables. And apparently that's a new thing
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for people. And they're like, oh, my God, it doesn't break.
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Yes, true.
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That's me.
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And you guys just had another release today as well
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with Vanguard 3.
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Yeah, so now we're supporting the TLR family for the
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TLR-1 and the HL. If you're not familiar with our
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BG-3 series, it is a non-gun-specific IWB holster that allows
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you to carry a light. So how it works is
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we make it for the X300 Ultra and the TLR-1
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slash HL. All the indexing comes off the bezel of
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both of those lights. And it does not matter the
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gun you run it on. You can run it on
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a 17-19, VP9, four and a quarter inch brailed 1911.
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It really anything.
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It's kind of the one-stop shop for everything. You can
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get it with overhooks or soft loops. Really comfortable way
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to carry.
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So, yeah. Cool.
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And I've been running Raven since before the website was
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called Raven, at least. Awesome products.
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Big fan.
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The old Malamar front.
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Yep.
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Or Malabar.
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Malabar, sorry. I found my, I have a Phantom from,
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I want to say the oldest one I have is
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like 08.
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So, been a.
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While.
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Good stuff.
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Yeah. Scott. Hola. Who am I? My name is Scott Jablonski. Non-mil, non-LEO.
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I train and shoot a lot. Lately, I've been doing
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a lot of product reviews, which has been pretty cool.
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And I am a drinker of fine cabernets and fine glassware.
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There's two of these. There's this one. And then there's
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this one.
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Very nice. Yeah.
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See what I did there?
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Just like the product description.
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Yeah.
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And so I run an enthusiast site called Modern Samurai Project,
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where I do random musings about self-defense, jujitsu, shooting, yada, yada, yada.
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And then also you just suggested a modification to our
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current forum, adding a new category.
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Yeah. So in a lot of Brazilian jiu-jitsu forums, there's people,
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what they do is they start threads, right? It's like
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they're training a lot, what they learned that day, what
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they learned in class, because much like firearms training, you
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can go to a seminar or a one-day class or
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a two-day class or a three-day class, and you can
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take copious notes and But unless you're putting it, writing
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it down, putting it to memory or recording it somehow,
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you're going to forget it, you know, and then you
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go back and get a refresher or see a video
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or someone else is talking about it on a on
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a mod cast. And you're like, oh, that's right. So, uh,
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what I basically suggested was, is under the training group, uh,
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and the sub form is training journals. You can start
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your own thread and however you want to track your notes,
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track your notes. If, for example, you're not into writing AARs,
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but you want to have your notes handy, you want
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to upload it to the internet. You can do that. Uh,
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the one I did was my training session yesterday. Uh,
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I basically said, um, what kind of tool I was
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using a pistol. It was a, it was the Roland, uh,
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what kind of ammo I was using, where I was
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the range and what I was working on that day
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and the drills and the times and the goals and
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lessons learned, right. In the hopes that, um, if I
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get distracted to something else, I want to go back
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cause something's slipping or, or whatnot. I can go back
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to that range day, um, uh, yesterday was a very,
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very good day. Things were just clicking, um, knowledge that
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had been shared with me. I was able to apply, uh, immediately.
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It was a good, good day and I wanted to
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record it. And then it just kind of came to me.
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Why don't I just put it up on, uh, up
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on the forum, you know? Um, we also had some
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people asking, uh, for us to talk about what we
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do when we went to the range, because we're always
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talking about purposeful training. What does that mean? What we're doing?
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And it's kind of hard to type all that stuff
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out when it's not fresh. So now what people can
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do is if they're, you know, for whatever reason, interested
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in what I'm doing, they can go to my training journal.
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You know, hopefully people like Bill, you guys can start
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writing down what you're doing and your improvements. People can
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compare their advancement, the drills that they're doing. So instead
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of the 10,000th time, what drill are you guys doing?
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They would go here and check it out. And wait
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for the community to share and see what we're doing
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and track it chronologically and historically for ourselves and for
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other people. I'm going to be putting like match notes,
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match results, from USPSA in there, be doing class notes,
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you know, and it's great for people who want to
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put things down, but they don't want to do an AAR.
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They don't want that spotlight, but they can put their
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notes down and refer back to them and share with
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other people without having the spotlight on them like an
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AAR usually does. So, yeah.
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Very cool. And just like everything else that we have,
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this is for your guys' use. Take advantage of it.
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It's going to be cool also to look back a
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couple years and be able to compare yourself now to
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two years ago when you started doing this tomorrow. It
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took some brain power to think about that and how
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to phrase that. Yeah, absolutely. Very cool. One of the
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topics I have written down is discussing network support. Network support.
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It's not It's not if you have computer problems, you
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contact us. We do have a computer security group now.
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But what this is about is supporting the network. We
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had a lot of people contact me about donating money
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towards primary and secondary. And I thought, you know what,
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we don't need to do that. And then in discussing
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this with a trusted person, they said, you know what,
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we have sufficient resources where someone could provide some form
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of a donation and we can provide a return, something
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of value. And essentially what we've done is put together
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something that essentially expands the community to a bit of a,
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it's a more tighter network now with those members. To
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be part of that network support thing, it all starts
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with our Patreon.
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Link.
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Starting with a $ 5 donation, $ 5 and up monthly donation.
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You get access to that group. You get access to
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the chat, which I found the chat is really interesting
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because it's really reminiscent of our moderator chat, which started this.
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Modcasts were started because our chats were so cool and
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we wanted to be able to spread this, spread the information,
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spread these discussions out. Now we have this chat in
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network support where The moderators are jumping in. We have
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Roland coming in and putting in his two cents in
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some of these conversations. We have Wix talking about coffee.
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We have Mike Martin talking about mushrooms. It's really cool.
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It's becoming a much tighter knit community through that. And
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it's really, it's neat to see how it's developed. It's
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only been going on for a week. We also have, oh,
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and there's Shaki. And there goes Shockey. We also have
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some special, basically they're outtakes of mod casts. They're clips
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that aren't going to make the main thing because there's
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not enough educational material, but it is really funny or
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really entertaining. Those are all being shoved over to network support.
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And those guys are getting access to it. As a
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matter of fact, I posted it to all the mods
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so they could see what's going on. And one of
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them asked, are you actually posting this to the public?
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Because they thought, holy crap, this is going a little
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too far. It's hilarious. It's that Stephen Andrews guy. We
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also have, what is it called? TeamSpeak. We have a
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TeamSpeak server. Right now, we do have questions directly from
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them also in that group. We'll get to that in
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a minute. But essentially, it's a way to support the network.
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It's paying bills. And it's also providing... Just a new experience.
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Though another benefit they did get was basically a heads
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up on new things that were coming out. They had
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the ability to order the patches before they were released
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or officially released. They're also now aware of the new
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projects that are right around the corner. And they also
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are given opportunities to put in input for new projects.
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Right now we're working on patch ideas for a shot.
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Cause we're going to be doing a shot 2017, uh,
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primary and secondary patch. So it's just cool. I enjoy it.
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Of course, Wix is asleep. He's not asleep, man.
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He's in hyper mode from all that coffee. He's so fast.
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We just can't hear him. No, I wouldn't.
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So I think they're almost done with, uh, making those
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pistol sites.
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Oh, really?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So it was another thing that happened in the network
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support chat. I think in like the same, the same
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like three hour period, somebody went from like.
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An idea of a, a set of pistol sites.
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To a design to a model.
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And then like the next day they were actually like fabricated.
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Oh yeah.
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I remember seeing that.
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Yeah.
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That was, that was kind of cool to watch.
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And that was involving Chris with Overwatch, right? Someone had
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a basic idea and Chris put in his two cents
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and helped out?
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I don't recall.
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I think Drew and Jordan were involved, but I don't
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remember who else was in that.
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Another thing that we're discussing, and Rich Mason just jumped in,
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which is perfect timing. We were also discussing special training
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events where the members of network support would be getting
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early heads up. They'll help with the planning and ultimately
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they'll get first dibs on, on access. What we're actually
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going to do though, that's up in the air. One
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of the things that everyone wants to do is at
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some point train at Darcy and Hey, there's Rich Mason.
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I want to go there next month.
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I want to shoot at people and be shot.
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Yeah.
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I'm trying to go there. Sounds like a good time.
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Do hood rat things.
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You know, there's always next month. Come and be up
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for it.
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Yes, true. We actually have a couple people coming in
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and actually staying for the entire week. They're three American kids.
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Dad's an ex-ranger. They live in Panama. And they're flying
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up and going to stay at Darcy the whole week.
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The two of them have already gone through some classes
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and stuff.
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But, yeah.
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Yeah.
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But the event, you want to talk about the event
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stuff and some ideas and things are kind of already
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in the works. We might be able to morph together
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or want to keep on some other stuff.
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No, no, that's that'd be really cool. It kind of
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also gives people an idea of what we're trying to
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put together here.
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Right.
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Well, I was already kind of planning a industry tusk.
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Yeah.
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We invite different people from different aspects, you know. I
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don't want to give out certain names and stuff. I
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have a conversation with a major manufacturer today about it.
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And so the idea would be to combine that four-day
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task and add a day for like a show and tell.
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That way people in the industry could bring products, new prototypes, whatever,
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standard equipment, and allow guys on the network to play
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with it, shoot it, go through the class with it,
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that kind of stuff, and actually get a hands-on experience,
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develop relationships within the industry. So it's just not– you know,
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trainers and other guys that are selling equipment. It's your,
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your normal person is pro gun and, and kind of
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a good person as well can, can get some of
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those contacts and meet somebody like Adam, you know?
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That's right. And you know, that's cool because that's, that's
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kind of like the epitome of what primary and secondary
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is doing for putting enthusiasts, responsible enthusiasts, military law enforcement
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industry altogether. That sounds perfect.
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I just want to snuggle with Rich Mason.
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And that's possible.
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Dude, you'll have like one hour to stop. Girl.
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So, yeah, some people are talking about Alliance personally because
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Darcy is my home away from home. I push for Darcy.
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Imagine that.
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I'm telling you, man, a fall and a spring event
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east and west.
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Yes.
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And that's the way to do it because you're going
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to be able to bring more.
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People in because some people are going to be able
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to make it out to Ohio because it's closer or
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they're going to make it out to Darcy because that's closer.
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And you're just going to pull different demographics. And then
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you'll get guys that, you know, last year I went
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to the East event.
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This year I'll go to the West event.
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Yeah, I think the issue, like trying to replicate something
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like Friends of Pat, is going to be a spring
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type of deal. Because you've got Tom Givens, he does
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the Tactical Conference in March, which we're the host of
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that this year as well. And so a lot of instructors,
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because they get very busy that time of year, it's
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going to be very hard to coordinate and get them
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together on a weekend. That's why the testing was already
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in the works when somebody posted the idea. I don't
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remember if it was in the chat or actually on
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the forum itself. about doing something there and it was
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like well i could combine the two just make a
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kind of a four-day, five-day weekend out of the whole event.
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We have enough shoot houses. I mean, hell, 19. So
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I think we should be able to do okay.
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Is that Darcy this year, huh? That's neat. I was
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told I should go.
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Yeah.
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That makes it even more reason to go.
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There might be still some room for up for her.
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what is it? Uh, August 10th to 16th, August, October.
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Yeah.
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I was like, where are we going?
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Back in time.
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You missed it.
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Yeah.
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We got another one in January.
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That might be better.
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Actually we'll have two in January. It looks like back
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to back. We'll have the one to seventh of the
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12th and then another one. We'll start that Sunday. Um,
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It's actually during SHOT Show. Somebody just sent an email
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about it today wanting to schedule that week for a
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tactical class.
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Wow.
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Then there's another one, Level 2 in February, and then
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April will be another Level 1 LECTC.
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So, yeah, one issue is logistics with spreading it out
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and not conflicting with all the other things. Personally, for me,
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I can only do so much travel. Full-time student. Primary
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and secondary really doesn't pay that much. And to have
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shot and then potentially this event and then friends of
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Pat in August.
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And then.
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Usually I go to Darcy in October. There is the
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summer always, but that's, that probably would be difficult too. Yeah.
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Summer at Darcy.
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I'll pass.
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Yeah, you're out of your mind.
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Yeah.
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Like we did that August class and it was 95,
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98 during the day, which is unseasonally cool for central
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Arkansas that time of year. The nights were getting down
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to 77, but it was with 90 to 95% humidity.
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So the nights were worse. And then the days, plus
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the mosquitoes come out when the sun starts to set.
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I was just about to say. Miserable, dude.
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Miserable, doesn't begin to describe it. Full body, we're doing
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explosive breaching on top of it. So it's body armor,
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gas mask, helmets, and there's no breeze. At one point,
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we actually shunned the lights down during a debrief and
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it looked like we were standing in a sea or
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like a river of mosquitoes. You put your hands out
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and they were just covered like gloves. I mean, miserable
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doesn't even begin to describe it. I mean, it's not
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Marine Corps miserable, but you know. So we all put
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our dicks out for Harami or is that now too soon?
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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I think I lost about 10 pounds, just a blood
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weight in that class, just from the mosquitoes or something.
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That's what I remember about the South man. Well, my
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dad was stationed at Maxwell down in Montgomery. That's what
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I mean. I remember two things about the South. Actually,
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I remember three things. being schooled that it was not
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the Civil War, it was the War of Northern Aggression,
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and the size of cockroaches and mosquitoes in Alabama. That's
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what I remember about Alabama and the South in general.
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I try not to go there. Nasty. And then there's Wix,
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who is a fan.
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That's where the best food is.
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Because it's the bugs. You're eating the bugs. I like food.
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Are you from there, Wix?
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Are you from Louisiana?
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Just only the bugs that come out of the water.
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Where are you from, Wix? Louisiana or something like that?
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Mississippi.
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Mississippi.
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Yeah, Mississippi. That's America's third world.
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I thought that was New Mexico.
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Now I lived in Mississippi for a while so I
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got lots of Mississippi jokes but if it Arkansas if
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it wasn't for Mississippi Arkansas would be last in everything
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so we share Arkansas Mississippi takes turns in being like
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50 in education.
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And stuff like that so number one teen pregnancies shit
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like that yeah STDs we're like like ugly twin brothers
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or something when it comes to the bad stuff so
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yeah STDs yep there you.
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Go all right.
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Cool so yeah It is possible. And also, it's early.
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It's early in primary and secondary, too. So for us
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to actually put together something like this, that would be
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kind of a big deal. So if it's smaller scale
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and not much to it, it's still going to be
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impressive to me.
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Those are particular lives?
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Oh, no, I don't know. Up to whoever wants to go,
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I'll make it. If we have enough, if there are
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enough people that want to actually participate.
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But you need to come in February.
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Yeah, for level two.
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Yeah, that's, oh yeah.
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I'd be graduated then, wouldn't I?
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I don't know, would you?
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Yeah, because this is like my ninth level one.
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Yeah, but then you got to ID a level two.
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That's one of the requirements.
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Yeah.
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So I need two.
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I need two. No, that doesn't.
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But here's the good news. Coming soon. This might be
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a little premature.
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It's coming to Utah.
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Might be having actually Idaho. So we'll be running all
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of our hot weather classes up in Idaho.
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Why not Utah?
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I don't know because they didn't build me a shoot house.
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I would have done it with my bare hands. Whereabouts?
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How close to the border?
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Boise.
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Boise.
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That definitely will be a cheaper flight.
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They haven't, uh, they haven't broke ground yet, but it
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should be done by March. So cool.
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So does that mean you're, you will fly out that
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for that or how would that work?
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Well, I've thought about walking, but yeah, I'm probably gonna, yeah,
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I'm probably gonna fly. It's like a two or three
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day drive. The actually the Boise guys drive down pretty
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regularly depending on time of year, like the level two
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stuff usually takes them three to four days because of
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the snow just to get here. So it'll, it'll definitely
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be awesome.
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Oh yes.
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You know, it might be warm, but it's a dry
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heat and I don't have to mess with the pterodactyls
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coming out of the oxbow lake, carrying us away.
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Yeah.
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Well, I'm all about that. That'd be cool. No, I
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was just wondering if you'd have a like different staff
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there and you'd stay at the home base.
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Yeah, I pretty much have to be at each LACTC
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right now. You know, there's different deals. Like the Master
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of Ritual class in Houston, I'm going to it. Then
497
00:26:47.259 --> 00:26:48.960
Bill's trying to do some stuff up in Seattle and
498
00:26:48.980 --> 00:26:51.259
some of the other guys. So some classes I go.
499
00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:55.160
Then other ones, Travis, we kind of take turns in
500
00:26:55.180 --> 00:26:58.109
different things to keep the travel to a minimum for
501
00:26:58.200 --> 00:26:58.529
our family.
502
00:27:01.210 --> 00:27:04.049
Also, that's nice for my AO because it would definitely
503
00:27:04.089 --> 00:27:08.609
increase the possibility of people from over here going because
504
00:27:08.650 --> 00:27:17.589
it's within driving distance. I'm excited for that. That's cool.
505
00:27:20.190 --> 00:27:23.569
So assuming everything does go as planned, when do you
506
00:27:23.589 --> 00:27:34.150
think the soonest level two will be hosted there? I
507
00:27:34.190 --> 00:27:35.130
think we just lost him.
508
00:27:39.619 --> 00:27:40.230
Damn it, Jim.
509
00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:43.180
I think he fell down the stairs at the shoot house.
510
00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:47.039
Those would hurt. They're steep and they're metal and.
511
00:27:48.619 --> 00:27:48.980
Painful.
512
00:27:52.180 --> 00:27:52.339
Yeah.
513
00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:54.539
So we got any questions?
514
00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:57.380
Checking it out right now. Let's see here.
515
00:27:57.660 --> 00:27:58.200
First question.
516
00:28:01.569 --> 00:28:05.230
First question here is, how can we have ModCast without questions?
517
00:28:05.529 --> 00:28:06.650
Matt Prime posted that.
518
00:28:08.349 --> 00:28:08.829
I don't know.
519
00:28:09.609 --> 00:28:12.250
Next question, who's on the panel tonight that might help
520
00:28:12.430 --> 00:28:15.000
drive questions? Matt Prime responded with me.
521
00:28:17.859 --> 00:28:19.680
They're all going to be dicks, so it doesn't matter.
522
00:28:20.359 --> 00:28:26.200
Next question, could we talk about the panelists could talk
523
00:28:26.259 --> 00:28:31.660
about The panelists would, I can't even read. Basically talking
524
00:28:31.680 --> 00:28:35.059
about a meetup, what we've been discussing. So that's good.
525
00:28:35.779 --> 00:28:37.279
Future equipping goals you might have.
526
00:28:37.299 --> 00:28:41.549
Future equipping goals? Yeah.
527
00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:44.309
Now, wait a minute. Before we say anything, are we
528
00:28:44.329 --> 00:28:46.509
going by gear group rules? Are we going by?
529
00:28:46.529 --> 00:28:46.609
Yeah.
530
00:28:48.609 --> 00:28:50.940
Good thing we don't have Lee. Lee will punch us.
531
00:28:51.940 --> 00:28:56.160
Gear group or equipment wishes. I would like to go
532
00:28:56.220 --> 00:28:57.460
from a six to a nine.
533
00:28:57.480 --> 00:28:58.920
There you.
534
00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:01.400
Go.
535
00:29:01.460 --> 00:29:04.930
That's what my wife wants.
536
00:29:05.069 --> 00:29:06.609
Read the pin post.
537
00:29:06.630 --> 00:29:07.769
This is the wrong group.
538
00:29:08.190 --> 00:29:10.849
Sorry. Sorry. That's P and S.
539
00:29:11.430 --> 00:29:11.809
Penis.
540
00:29:12.009 --> 00:29:14.950
Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis.
541
00:29:19.269 --> 00:29:22.799
Future goals? Personally, I'd like to eventually get lighter plates.
542
00:29:22.900 --> 00:29:26.940
I'm running the TAC. What are they? The TAC 3S
543
00:29:28.059 --> 00:29:33.309
armored mobilities. Basically, the indestructible. They'll stop everything just shy
544
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:37.710
of armor piercing and 50. They're heavier. They're thicker, but
545
00:29:37.730 --> 00:29:39.970
they're indestructible. They were excellent for keeping in my patrol
546
00:29:40.059 --> 00:29:41.490
car keeping them in the trunk and i wouldn't have
547
00:29:41.539 --> 00:29:43.640
to worry about getting them x-rayed because they don't need
548
00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:48.059
it unlike ceramic unlike everything else but yeah they are
549
00:29:48.099 --> 00:29:51.039
heavy they're bulky it'd be nice to lighten that load
550
00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:53.980
up i'm not doing as much patrol anymore it's not
551
00:29:54.119 --> 00:29:56.279
that much of a priority for me it would be
552
00:29:56.319 --> 00:30:00.170
nice to also upgrade my plate carrier Mine's sitting right
553
00:30:00.190 --> 00:30:05.000
over there. It's a pig prototype. Back in the day,
554
00:30:05.900 --> 00:30:07.980
I like it. It's still good for me. I'm happy.
555
00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:12.980
Nice. Is that it?
556
00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:16.759
I can't think of anything else, because then we'd be
557
00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:19.980
going into guns, and that's not gear and equipment. They
558
00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:21.680
didn't ask specifically.
559
00:30:22.349 --> 00:30:23.130
Oh, it's the.
560
00:30:24.170 --> 00:30:27.130
Future primary tools are.
561
00:30:28.349 --> 00:30:32.619
are nods are nods okay nods or equipment yeah i
562
00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:36.420
uh well so it doesn't fall into gear.
563
00:30:36.500 --> 00:30:39.019
Yeah it does it does it's not god's gear.
564
00:30:39.259 --> 00:30:42.289
Oh okay yeah um i want to i just want
565
00:30:42.309 --> 00:30:43.789
to get a pair of sentinels that's my end of
566
00:30:43.809 --> 00:30:47.049
the year goal like if i do well if i
567
00:30:47.069 --> 00:30:49.450
you know that was what i told my fiance mike
568
00:30:49.470 --> 00:30:51.390
this is what i want to buy myself for christmas
569
00:30:52.029 --> 00:30:54.960
is a pair of sentinels i just want to I
570
00:30:54.980 --> 00:30:57.259
did a great TMBC Night Fighter class.
571
00:30:57.299 --> 00:30:58.259
It was absolutely awesome.
572
00:30:58.299 --> 00:31:01.009
It taught me a lot, especially about stuff I didn't
573
00:31:01.089 --> 00:31:06.089
know or could conceptualize with MVGs, how they're made, how
574
00:31:06.109 --> 00:31:07.289
they're employed, stuff like that.
575
00:31:08.049 --> 00:31:11.809
I found out over three really, really.
576
00:31:11.690 --> 00:31:19.150
Long 10 to 12-hour nights, starting at 5, ending at 5.
577
00:31:19.339 --> 00:31:21.640
A single monocular system for me does not work.
578
00:31:22.140 --> 00:31:22.440
I need.
579
00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:23.819
dual tubes.
580
00:31:24.119 --> 00:31:27.259
I don't need, I want, but I find myself working better,
581
00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:32.029
more efficiently and having less of a stress issue running
582
00:31:32.049 --> 00:31:32.549
dual tubes.
583
00:31:33.130 --> 00:31:35.509
So that's my, my gear goal.
584
00:31:38.269 --> 00:31:41.029
And Mason just came back who happens to know a
585
00:31:41.049 --> 00:31:44.380
little bit about night vision. Just a little.
586
00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:46.480
Yeah.
587
00:31:46.519 --> 00:31:49.619
I didn't catch much. I'm having some internet issues here.
588
00:31:49.900 --> 00:31:55.579
Something the, Yeah. It was garbled and I heard the
589
00:31:55.619 --> 00:31:57.849
last little sentence or two, so I'm not really sure
590
00:31:57.880 --> 00:31:58.789
what you're even talking about.
591
00:31:59.809 --> 00:32:04.529
Nothing important. Now he wants, uh, uh, Sentinels.
592
00:32:07.769 --> 00:32:08.009
All right.
593
00:32:08.029 --> 00:32:08.470
I wouldn't mind.
594
00:32:08.549 --> 00:32:08.789
Yeah.
595
00:32:09.329 --> 00:32:15.150
And I guess we, I guess I, I, I do
596
00:32:15.190 --> 00:32:22.509
plan on getting a, getting my 34 modified and putting a, uh, KK,
597
00:32:22.609 --> 00:32:23.410
I'm on it with a comp.
598
00:32:23.910 --> 00:32:24.930
That's a gun, man.
599
00:32:25.150 --> 00:32:26.190
It was his gear talk.
600
00:32:26.930 --> 00:32:27.339
Yeah.
601
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:28.470
Strike one, buddy.
602
00:32:28.740 --> 00:32:30.400
Minus three gullet points.
603
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:31.980
Damn you, Lee.
604
00:32:32.460 --> 00:32:32.799
Right.
605
00:32:33.720 --> 00:32:36.119
Well, now you just need to talk about the gear
606
00:32:36.140 --> 00:32:38.839
that you're actually going to need to bring it with you. Like,
607
00:32:38.859 --> 00:32:42.619
is it going to go in a wheelbarrow trailer behind
608
00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:43.259
your truck?
609
00:32:43.819 --> 00:32:46.619
It's going to have a three-point sling. Not a two-point adjustable.
610
00:32:46.900 --> 00:32:47.619
A three-point sling.
611
00:32:49.769 --> 00:32:54.250
Well, I have one or two. You can have three. Clearly.
612
00:32:54.569 --> 00:32:54.849
Wix.
613
00:32:56.650 --> 00:32:57.710
What are you looking at upgrading?
614
00:32:58.450 --> 00:33:02.900
You know, Adam actually kind of stole my answer, man.
615
00:33:03.480 --> 00:33:05.900
I mean, Sentinels are awesome.
616
00:33:08.220 --> 00:33:11.960
I just want an excuse to walk around. Yeah.
617
00:33:15.789 --> 00:33:17.809
I love the Panos, but there's no way in hell
618
00:33:17.849 --> 00:33:18.769
I'll ever own them, so.
619
00:33:22.099 --> 00:33:24.660
Yeah, I mean, I think Sentinels is a realistic goal.
620
00:33:29.279 --> 00:33:32.380
Have you looked at the AB Mod 3 setup, Wix?
621
00:33:35.130 --> 00:33:36.880
That is the....
622
00:33:37.490 --> 00:33:38.650
What is it? Atoms?
623
00:33:38.670 --> 00:33:42.650
Yeah, I think so. It's the one where you have.
624
00:33:43.069 --> 00:33:46.430
It's a dual-tube setup, but you can remove each single monocular.
625
00:33:46.970 --> 00:33:47.210
Yes.
626
00:33:47.619 --> 00:33:48.859
I know what you're talking about.
627
00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:52.470
Yeah, my buddy JW got a set and They're nice.
628
00:33:52.549 --> 00:33:54.289
They're neat.
629
00:33:54.309 --> 00:33:57.309
They're a little bit more affordable than Sentinels. I don't
630
00:33:57.349 --> 00:34:00.890
know how robust they are in comparison to Sentinels. I
631
00:34:00.930 --> 00:34:04.849
know that the Sentinels I've played with look like you
632
00:34:04.869 --> 00:34:07.730
could run them over with a Mack truck. But I
633
00:34:07.750 --> 00:34:09.989
thought it was neat that you can– the setup he
634
00:34:10.010 --> 00:34:12.869
had was really weird because it was a– one was
635
00:34:12.949 --> 00:34:16.949
a filmed yellow– or sorry, filmed green tube, and the
636
00:34:16.969 --> 00:34:19.670
other one was an unfilmed red phosphorus tube.
637
00:34:20.090 --> 00:34:23.639
Is that so you can do like color– Yeah, it.
638
00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:26.210
Was super strange, but it was neat, the modularity of it.
639
00:34:28.969 --> 00:34:31.929
Now, when you say JW, you mean Jehovah's Witness, clearly.
640
00:34:32.789 --> 00:34:38.210
No, JW Ramp, he's a photographer out of Pittsburgh, good friend,
641
00:34:38.349 --> 00:34:40.550
and take a bunch of good photos.
642
00:34:41.550 --> 00:34:45.760
That technology has allowed them to expand their solicitation hours, so....
643
00:34:52.300 --> 00:34:56.909
So, Rich, the question is, what are you looking to upgrade? Guns, gear, anything?
644
00:34:58.690 --> 00:35:01.489
My answer was plates, but I don't really need to.
645
00:35:01.909 --> 00:35:08.750
But it'd be nice. Dinnerware, silverware, those kind of plates.
646
00:35:11.110 --> 00:35:12.949
I think he's still having technical issues.
647
00:35:12.969 --> 00:35:17.719
All right. I'll hop in there. For the first time
648
00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:21.360
in my life, I covet no, really nothing.
649
00:35:22.170 --> 00:35:22.690
It's weird.
650
00:35:23.670 --> 00:35:26.989
It's awesome. Yeah. But the minute you stop talking about that,
651
00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:33.440
all these training classes pop up, you know, I am still,
652
00:35:33.480 --> 00:35:35.260
my wife doesn't watch this. So I'm still trying to
653
00:35:35.300 --> 00:35:37.119
figure out how I'm going to get to Jay Quease's class,
654
00:35:37.739 --> 00:35:40.119
even though I've been told no, you know, see the
655
00:35:40.139 --> 00:35:43.860
trick is that when she says no, the first three times,
656
00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:46.300
but by the time she says no, the 10th time
657
00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:52.349
she's so tired, she doesn't care anymore. Wear them down. Yeah,
658
00:35:52.389 --> 00:35:56.860
that's my plan. I'm sticking with it. Let's see.
659
00:35:56.949 --> 00:36:00.900
Oh, you know what I'd like to do is I'd
660
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:02.440
like to get a Baylor mount from one of my
661
00:36:02.500 --> 00:36:07.420
friends for the T1 and put it on my 26
662
00:36:07.420 --> 00:36:11.280
just to troll people that don't like red dots.
663
00:36:12.260 --> 00:36:14.119
So do you want me to send you the video
664
00:36:14.300 --> 00:36:17.059
of a 26 with a KKM comp?
665
00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:18.960
You already sent me the picture, you bastard.
666
00:36:19.630 --> 00:36:21.809
Oh, I'll send you the slow-mo video. It's even better.
667
00:36:22.510 --> 00:36:23.909
But that has an RMR on it, right?
668
00:36:24.449 --> 00:36:25.630
No, it has a micro T1.
669
00:36:25.789 --> 00:36:26.880
Oh, does it?
670
00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:28.000
Yes.
671
00:36:29.420 --> 00:36:29.539
Oh.
672
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:32.809
And it doesn't mess with ejection or anything like that, huh?
673
00:36:33.619 --> 00:36:34.820
No, it is glorious.
674
00:36:35.019 --> 00:36:39.920
I firmly believe that. So you and Tom's work on pressure.
675
00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:44.429
More pressure, the flatter the chute. Because the 26 barrel
676
00:36:44.449 --> 00:36:47.130
is so short, there's a lot of unburnt powder and
677
00:36:47.190 --> 00:36:50.179
still a lot of pressure at the muzzles. So the
678
00:36:50.179 --> 00:36:53.019
26 with a comp is flatter than a 19 with
679
00:36:53.059 --> 00:36:55.480
a comp, which is flatter than a 17 with a comp.
680
00:36:55.949 --> 00:36:58.610
When you shoot it, it is glorious.
681
00:37:00.409 --> 00:37:06.449
Oh, that with an H1 carried on my ankle. Oh.
682
00:37:07.250 --> 00:37:10.989
Isn't that what Fisher does? Huh? Isn't that what Fisher does?
683
00:37:11.489 --> 00:37:11.730
Yes.
684
00:37:12.510 --> 00:37:14.170
I don't know. I've never looked at his ankle.
685
00:37:14.250 --> 00:37:18.309
I think he just carries a revolver.
686
00:37:21.980 --> 00:37:22.980
Like 10 of them.
687
00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:24.860
Well, here's the thing.
688
00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:29.440
When you're carrying a single stack 1911, I mean, backup
689
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:30.139
gun's where it's at.
690
00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:35.920
It's true. And that works great into the next question.
691
00:37:36.579 --> 00:37:41.199
The question is, Mildslide versus MOS versus Baylor.
692
00:37:41.820 --> 00:37:43.019
Baylor. Okay.
693
00:37:44.199 --> 00:37:46.139
Right off the bat, MOS is not going to have
694
00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:52.480
such a nice fit as an ATI, ATEI Mildslide. A-T-I-R,
695
00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:57.480
it is a custom fit like a glove for your
696
00:37:57.539 --> 00:38:02.989
red dot. It's optimal. Now, let's say you work for
697
00:38:03.010 --> 00:38:05.369
an agency that allows you to run a red dot,
698
00:38:05.429 --> 00:38:08.250
but you can't modify the weapon. Hey, Baylor, what do
699
00:38:08.269 --> 00:38:10.750
you know? It's easy. Snap that sucker on, you're good
700
00:38:10.769 --> 00:38:13.340
to go. Also, I understand.
701
00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:15.719
That's the new catchphrase. Hey, what do you know? It's easy.
702
00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:16.539
Yeah.
703
00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:17.300
It is.
704
00:38:18.840 --> 00:38:21.000
And Adam, weren't you saying something about that? Also the
705
00:38:21.099 --> 00:38:25.000
RCS offering, you prefer that better because it's slightly higher.
706
00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:31.260
So you cannot go wrong with a milled slide gun.
707
00:38:32.099 --> 00:38:35.019
In my opinion, probably the number one way to mount
708
00:38:35.059 --> 00:38:37.460
an optic to a gun. And the reason why it
709
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:41.889
is a, it's milled for it. When Doug does it,
710
00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:44.059
he has you send the RMR in because the tolerance
711
00:38:44.099 --> 00:38:48.000
is The tolerances on RMRs can be plus or minus 5,000,
712
00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:52.900
which is quite a bit. We were able to, we
713
00:38:53.019 --> 00:38:55.530
with the Baylor, and when I say we, it's Raven
714
00:38:55.550 --> 00:38:59.090
Concealment and really Eric Rice, him and Clint, they just
715
00:38:59.260 --> 00:39:00.239
did an amazing job with it.
716
00:39:00.969 --> 00:39:06.730
The Baylor is a no-commitment optics mounting platform.
717
00:39:07.610 --> 00:39:10.309
It is just as strong as having it milled into
718
00:39:10.329 --> 00:39:13.650
the gun because it's got contact points in the dovetail.
719
00:39:14.070 --> 00:39:15.110
As well as the rear plate.
720
00:39:15.570 --> 00:39:18.789
And also the sight sits in as a, you know,
721
00:39:18.849 --> 00:39:20.219
it's got to go in finger pressure.
722
00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:21.179
It doesn't just drop it.
723
00:39:21.739 --> 00:39:23.760
The, you know, if you drop an RMR or T1
724
00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:25.539
in there, you have to press it down onto the mount.
725
00:39:25.889 --> 00:39:28.329
So that way, if you beat it off something, it
726
00:39:28.369 --> 00:39:30.269
works in the same theory as having it milled. in
727
00:39:30.690 --> 00:39:33.030
it transfers all the stress to the mount as opposed
728
00:39:33.050 --> 00:39:35.000
to the screws So that way you don't shear it
729
00:39:35.079 --> 00:39:37.980
off what you see with MOS guns and the core
730
00:39:38.019 --> 00:39:42.820
guns specifically They are not precision fit. They have a
731
00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:46.119
very generous pocket. They use a plate system which can
732
00:39:46.179 --> 00:39:49.429
induce zero wander and as well as when you rack
733
00:39:49.510 --> 00:39:52.510
it off the optic, it's putting all that stress onto
734
00:39:52.530 --> 00:39:55.429
the screws. That's why you see guys that shear MOS
735
00:39:55.690 --> 00:39:59.869
and core slides. They shear the screws off when they
736
00:40:00.449 --> 00:40:03.130
run their RMR, their T1, or their delta point off something.
737
00:40:04.210 --> 00:40:08.679
The baler also sits higher than it would a milled
738
00:40:08.699 --> 00:40:11.880
slide gun, which is really neat. Humans have a natural
739
00:40:12.340 --> 00:40:15.360
intuition to index off their nose. If you measure from
740
00:40:15.380 --> 00:40:17.139
the center of your pupil to the front of your nose,
741
00:40:17.550 --> 00:40:20.670
And this is varying due to head sizes. It's about
742
00:40:20.710 --> 00:40:23.389
the same length as where the center of the slide
743
00:40:23.469 --> 00:40:25.469
is to the center point in the optic with a
744
00:40:25.510 --> 00:40:26.190
baler mounted.
745
00:40:26.750 --> 00:40:29.409
So it's just a little bit more natural presentation.
746
00:40:30.989 --> 00:40:34.760
It's a little bit easier to pick up, but it
747
00:40:34.900 --> 00:40:37.760
adds a little more weight to the system. But if
748
00:40:37.820 --> 00:40:40.119
you want to get into optics and you're like, you
749
00:40:40.139 --> 00:40:42.019
know what, I'm not sure if this is me. For me,
750
00:40:42.579 --> 00:40:45.809
it's $ 199. 00. If you decide you love it, you can
751
00:40:45.829 --> 00:40:47.650
either stick with the system or have your gun milled
752
00:40:47.710 --> 00:40:50.750
out for it. Or if you say, hey, it's too
753
00:40:50.789 --> 00:40:54.050
busy or something about this doesn't work for me, there's
754
00:40:54.070 --> 00:40:56.420
no downtime on the slide. There's no void warranty of
755
00:40:56.449 --> 00:40:59.139
the slide. And you can simply take your baler off,
756
00:40:59.659 --> 00:41:01.980
put your optic on a rifle, and put your iron
757
00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:04.760
sights back on. And honestly, it takes less than 10
758
00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:05.880
minutes to do the conversion.
759
00:41:09.059 --> 00:41:11.960
This is too busy. I'm taking it off my gun.
760
00:41:14.070 --> 00:41:15.769
There's some guys that can't process it.
761
00:41:17.190 --> 00:41:17.909
Speaking of which.
762
00:41:18.329 --> 00:41:20.170
Oh, go ahead. Go ahead.
763
00:41:21.730 --> 00:41:22.269
Oh, no, no.
764
00:41:22.670 --> 00:41:23.329
Go ahead.
765
00:41:24.530 --> 00:41:28.710
Fine. Damn it. Speaking of which, one of the additional
766
00:41:28.769 --> 00:41:35.019
benefits of network support is big techs. Ike is providing
767
00:41:35.059 --> 00:41:37.860
a special benefit to members where if you want to
768
00:41:37.900 --> 00:41:44.809
demo a an optic combination on a pistol. he kind
769
00:41:44.829 --> 00:41:46.929
of has a, I don't think it's necessarily a rental.
770
00:41:46.949 --> 00:41:48.130
It's more of a demo thing.
771
00:41:48.949 --> 00:41:49.489
We're working.
772
00:41:50.030 --> 00:41:52.320
We, as in he and I, I want to help
773
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:54.920
out where I can are trying to get more products
774
00:41:55.260 --> 00:42:00.219
available to have for testing for, and this isn't working.
775
00:42:00.260 --> 00:42:05.139
Is it going to be like, uh, it probably had like.
776
00:42:04.900 --> 00:42:06.800
The optic and the mount. Are you going to send
777
00:42:06.820 --> 00:42:09.949
like a whole slide or like so far?
778
00:42:09.969 --> 00:42:12.269
My understanding is it is potentially going to be slide.
779
00:42:13.050 --> 00:42:14.789
And have everything good to go.
780
00:42:16.510 --> 00:42:18.710
Yeah, that would actually make it pretty attractive.
781
00:42:19.670 --> 00:42:21.989
So then people can try it out firsthand and figure
782
00:42:22.110 --> 00:42:25.940
out if it's for them or not. I want to
783
00:42:25.980 --> 00:42:28.679
say this is going to go for the Baylor as well.
784
00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:33.739
Dude, his Labor Day promo for the Baylor and Optic combo,
785
00:42:34.409 --> 00:42:35.210
it was so good.
786
00:42:35.250 --> 00:42:37.960
I was like, hmm. Like, I may need to order
787
00:42:38.019 --> 00:42:39.960
one of these. And it's like, ah, you know, but
788
00:42:39.980 --> 00:42:40.360
you can.
789
00:42:40.260 --> 00:42:43.340
Get a demo baler, you know, because I've got them
790
00:42:43.380 --> 00:42:47.900
for showing people. But, yeah, that was a smoking deal.
791
00:42:48.800 --> 00:42:51.539
And Ike is the man. He's a great dude. He's
792
00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:54.780
one of our dealers, as well as Mike from AT Armor,
793
00:42:54.880 --> 00:42:58.500
F3 Tactical. Like, we have some of the most amazing dealers,
794
00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:02.420
I'd say, in the entire industry. And very, very lucky
795
00:43:02.460 --> 00:43:03.579
to call those people friends.
796
00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:05.619
And Ike just closed on his house.
797
00:43:09.030 --> 00:43:11.409
And he has some sweet Russian river brewery beer.
798
00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:18.199
That and the coffee. Yeah. I don't know what you're
799
00:43:18.219 --> 00:43:18.599
talking about.
800
00:43:19.579 --> 00:43:22.179
No Russian river is legit, man. It's like really good beer.
801
00:43:25.059 --> 00:43:27.010
I posted a photo. It was in, it was in
802
00:43:27.090 --> 00:43:27.460
one of.
803
00:43:27.409 --> 00:43:28.449
The, I thought it was root beer.
804
00:43:28.469 --> 00:43:30.570
I don't know. Yeah.
805
00:43:30.630 --> 00:43:31.769
It was at the stuff that you can find in
806
00:43:31.789 --> 00:43:33.570
California and it was rare to find in his neck
807
00:43:33.590 --> 00:43:33.909
of the woods.
808
00:43:34.690 --> 00:43:34.869
Yes.
809
00:43:40.269 --> 00:43:43.380
We might have someone join us. Okay, so let's see here.
810
00:43:43.389 --> 00:43:47.380
Durability of optics versus ACOG. We'll have to hit that
811
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:55.360
one later. And we will be BSing. Okay, that's true. Okay, Wix.
812
00:43:57.949 --> 00:44:02.329
You'll like this. You and I were, how long ago
813
00:44:02.389 --> 00:44:05.849
was it? You and I were in a Facebook group
814
00:44:05.969 --> 00:44:10.389
where we kind of worked together. That's where I found
815
00:44:10.429 --> 00:44:13.610
that you were an invaluable asset to the whole program.
816
00:44:15.610 --> 00:44:16.349
Do you know what I'm talking about?
817
00:44:17.130 --> 00:44:17.329
Yep.
818
00:44:17.469 --> 00:44:19.070
I'm tracking. I'm right there with you.
819
00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:24.500
Okay. Gotcha. Was this your guys' tag team assault on
820
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:26.679
a year Asian person's delicate sensibilities?
821
00:44:27.460 --> 00:44:30.090
Not necessarily his. As a matter of fact, if anything,
822
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:34.329
we were helping him on his group. At the time,
823
00:44:34.389 --> 00:44:36.730
I think we were viewed on as a positive source.
824
00:44:38.289 --> 00:44:38.530
Until.
825
00:44:40.630 --> 00:44:43.510
You weren't until there were some disagreements.
826
00:44:45.909 --> 00:44:46.130
Yeah.
827
00:44:47.309 --> 00:44:49.909
I think it, most of the disagreements that were with
828
00:44:49.949 --> 00:44:53.139
me were light oriented. And I think your mic's on
829
00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:55.699
and there's a, there you go.
830
00:44:56.980 --> 00:44:57.179
Okay.
831
00:44:57.219 --> 00:45:03.179
So educating to the low education or how to educate
832
00:45:03.219 --> 00:45:06.599
the low education firearm enthusiast. How do you show them
833
00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:09.880
right from wrong? How do you help them from keeping,
834
00:45:10.199 --> 00:45:12.719
or how do you, help them from making bad purchases
835
00:45:14.489 --> 00:45:17.309
how do you how do you spread the word backhand
836
00:45:18.090 --> 00:45:21.329
backhand exactly and that's why we have now and now
837
00:45:21.429 --> 00:45:29.489
on sale primary and secondary backhand so yeah what do.
838
00:45:29.409 --> 00:45:32.480
We do i think we learned uh a lot from
839
00:45:32.500 --> 00:45:36.719
that actually because we kind of we kind of changed
840
00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:37.159
our ways.
841
00:45:37.179 --> 00:45:37.260
Yeah.
842
00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:40.119
We didn't really pull any punches when we were, when
843
00:45:40.139 --> 00:45:41.900
we were talking to people in the beginning, it was
844
00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:45.039
kind of just like, nah, what you're saying is, is stupid.
845
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:48.280
That's all wrong. You're dumb. And, uh, people don't really
846
00:45:48.340 --> 00:45:49.940
react very well to that sometimes.
847
00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:57.380
So, um, I mean, honestly, like you can, you can present, um,
848
00:45:58.900 --> 00:46:00.969
you present a lot of really well reasoned arguments. And
849
00:46:01.010 --> 00:46:05.639
if people are, just emotionally invested because they spent money
850
00:46:05.719 --> 00:46:10.900
on things. Um, it becomes really hard to convince them that, uh, Hey,
851
00:46:10.940 --> 00:46:14.539
all this, all this time you invested in research, however,
852
00:46:14.579 --> 00:46:18.840
misguided and all this money that you spent and, uh,
853
00:46:19.340 --> 00:46:20.940
all these Instagram photos you posted.
854
00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:22.500
Yeah.
855
00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:25.900
This thing's all screwed up. You did it completely wrong. Um,
856
00:46:26.659 --> 00:46:27.510
that doesn't always work.
857
00:46:27.989 --> 00:46:30.710
Sometimes you kind of just need to, I mean, to
858
00:46:30.750 --> 00:46:34.030
let people know like, Hey, uh, You know, there's a
859
00:46:34.110 --> 00:46:36.570
different school of thought out there.
860
00:46:36.630 --> 00:46:38.190
Maybe have you considered this.
861
00:46:38.769 --> 00:46:42.570
Kind of kind of slowly, slowly break it down over time,
862
00:46:43.550 --> 00:46:47.579
invite them to other places where they can read differing
863
00:46:47.659 --> 00:46:52.760
opinions and, you know, take a less confrontational approach, I
864
00:46:52.820 --> 00:46:54.940
think works better in the long run.
865
00:46:57.820 --> 00:47:01.619
Yeah, I agree, especially being able to provide a different
866
00:47:02.059 --> 00:47:06.150
point of view. And not say, you're wrong! Though that's fun.
867
00:47:06.469 --> 00:47:07.250
It's really fun.
868
00:47:07.269 --> 00:47:09.590
And it's rewarding.
869
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:13.780
Yeah, but I mean, some people don't listen, man. Sometimes
870
00:47:13.800 --> 00:47:19.800
people just want to argue. I mean, disagreements are fine.
871
00:47:20.559 --> 00:47:24.340
Everyone's got their point of view, their context that they're
872
00:47:24.619 --> 00:47:32.429
coming from. But certain things are just objectively true and
873
00:47:33.159 --> 00:47:37.610
better than other things and uh you know that there
874
00:47:37.710 --> 00:47:42.389
there is a time where um being being firm with
875
00:47:42.429 --> 00:47:44.179
someone and letting them know like hey you know that's
876
00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:46.079
that's not a good choice no you should not use
877
00:47:46.139 --> 00:47:49.940
rip g2 ammo in your carry gun um that's that's
878
00:47:49.980 --> 00:47:50.940
probably a bad idea.
879
00:47:50.699 --> 00:47:55.449
I agree.
880
00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:02.659
But yeah, the minute anyone invested anything personally with them,
881
00:48:02.940 --> 00:48:07.340
with themselves, they, that's part of their identity. They bought
882
00:48:07.380 --> 00:48:10.119
that Taurus curve and now that's part of them. And they,
883
00:48:10.780 --> 00:48:13.250
and if you offend, if you, if you speak against that,
884
00:48:13.630 --> 00:48:14.550
you speak against them.
885
00:48:16.610 --> 00:48:16.809
Right.
886
00:48:18.130 --> 00:48:18.329
Yes.
887
00:48:19.510 --> 00:48:23.150
And I just got a message. Basically also is number one,
888
00:48:23.190 --> 00:48:25.969
decide if the person is worth your time or worth
889
00:48:26.010 --> 00:48:28.369
the time. I don't know. for me, most of the
890
00:48:28.389 --> 00:48:30.610
time when I would post, it was for the benefit
891
00:48:30.670 --> 00:48:34.150
of anyone potentially reading the discussion. That's something that I
892
00:48:34.210 --> 00:48:36.869
also try to enforce with, uh, with our groups in
893
00:48:36.889 --> 00:48:40.119
the forum. Don't think about the immediate gratification on the
894
00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:44.219
immediate information exchange right here. Think about what, what people
895
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:46.199
are going to be thinking about or think about the
896
00:48:46.340 --> 00:48:51.179
information people are going to be gaining from weeks in advance.
897
00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:53.579
A year from now, people are going to come back. Hell,
898
00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:55.920
we got old, old posts that are coming back up
899
00:48:55.980 --> 00:48:59.699
that are still, uh, pertinent. So bear that in mind
900
00:48:59.719 --> 00:49:00.239
when you post.
901
00:49:03.079 --> 00:49:08.059
So that's an interesting question of how do you determine
902
00:49:08.099 --> 00:49:16.630
if a person is worth your time? You know, how
903
00:49:16.650 --> 00:49:19.670
do those conversations usually start, right? They usually start that
904
00:49:19.690 --> 00:49:25.590
they find out you're the gun guy, right? Or, and
905
00:49:25.630 --> 00:49:28.090
what questions they ask you when they find out, or
906
00:49:28.110 --> 00:49:33.610
for example, you know, like, What do you shoot or
907
00:49:33.650 --> 00:49:37.210
what kind of gun do you have? I have this blah, blah, blah.
908
00:49:38.230 --> 00:49:42.449
And those conversations are always interesting. You can pretty much
909
00:49:42.489 --> 00:49:44.460
sum up it as a person is just a guy
910
00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:49.139
who owns a gun or an enthusiast or, you know,
911
00:49:49.300 --> 00:49:52.659
or some level there in between by what they want
912
00:49:52.699 --> 00:49:56.050
to talk about. If they just want to talk about
913
00:49:56.150 --> 00:49:59.829
all the guns in their gun safe and their intricacies
914
00:50:00.110 --> 00:50:04.409
of those guns, then they're collectors. To me, they are
915
00:50:05.219 --> 00:50:11.010
along those same lines as collectors. Professional sports fans, right?
916
00:50:11.130 --> 00:50:13.840
Don't get me wrong. I have my professional sports, things
917
00:50:13.860 --> 00:50:15.840
like that. But I always find a unique thing of
918
00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:20.139
guys can get around and talk for hours and hours
919
00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:23.719
and hours about what happened on Sunday. Nothing wrong with that.
920
00:50:24.099 --> 00:50:25.460
But they actually talk like they know what the hell
921
00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:28.420
they're talking about. I think they know what they're talking about,
922
00:50:29.460 --> 00:50:31.860
even though they've never played the game. You know, they
923
00:50:31.880 --> 00:50:36.949
just watched it. And it's how gun collectors talk. If
924
00:50:37.030 --> 00:50:42.269
they ask you, like, where do you shoot? Why did
925
00:50:42.289 --> 00:50:50.099
you pick that gun? I am interested in forms of self-defense.
926
00:50:50.300 --> 00:50:55.570
And they get into non-gear related questions. That's generally where
927
00:50:55.630 --> 00:51:00.590
I really start getting interested in having the conversations. and
928
00:51:00.710 --> 00:51:02.940
uh and going and going from there so that's how
929
00:51:03.019 --> 00:51:05.519
i that's how i do it um if it's a
930
00:51:05.559 --> 00:51:12.599
gun collector i'm just like yeah cool awesome ivory 1911 that's.
931
00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:16.889
Awesome good for you yeah there are certain buzzwords people
932
00:51:16.929 --> 00:51:20.929
bring up and then you know okay we'll see yeah yeah.
933
00:51:20.769 --> 00:51:26.469
Like the word like punisher and words like that and
934
00:51:26.489 --> 00:51:30.429
stuff so What was the other question that the person
935
00:51:30.469 --> 00:51:31.449
asked before that?
936
00:51:35.409 --> 00:51:36.010
Let's see here.
937
00:51:36.030 --> 00:51:39.679
We're talking about emotionally invested in their equipment and their
938
00:51:39.719 --> 00:51:44.260
guns and stuff and why they get like that. Yeah.
939
00:51:45.300 --> 00:51:46.340
It's part of their identity.
940
00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:50.809
It is part of their identity. I usually wind up getting...
941
00:51:51.650 --> 00:51:55.670
into a little bit more of the weeds into it, right?
942
00:51:55.969 --> 00:52:00.429
I think people pick their particular gun and whether usually
943
00:52:00.449 --> 00:52:07.360
it's their handgun for two reasons, three reasons. One, it
944
00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:15.099
looks cool. Two, cost. And or three, someone they kind
945
00:52:15.139 --> 00:52:19.139
of sort of respect was the information source that guided
946
00:52:19.179 --> 00:52:27.110
them to that. All of which is why XDs sell
947
00:52:27.250 --> 00:52:34.550
so well. They look cool. There's no denying. XDs look cool.
948
00:52:35.349 --> 00:52:36.210
I disagree.
949
00:52:36.949 --> 00:52:43.889
Okay. To a layman, the stippling, the serrations.
950
00:52:44.230 --> 00:52:45.969
Grip zone.
951
00:52:46.010 --> 00:52:53.860
The grip zone. Not one, but 2.0. are, you know,
952
00:52:54.059 --> 00:52:58.619
it's visually appealing to it, to the unwashed. The price
953
00:52:58.679 --> 00:53:07.460
point can't be argued. And I think they give big
954
00:53:07.500 --> 00:53:12.829
incentives at gun shops for selling them, you know? So
955
00:53:14.030 --> 00:53:18.170
that's the, and nobody wants to admit that they may
956
00:53:18.190 --> 00:53:19.690
have not been given the best advice.
957
00:53:21.409 --> 00:53:27.230
Yeah, especially when they committed to it. Because they've made
958
00:53:27.269 --> 00:53:27.869
a bad decision.
959
00:53:29.130 --> 00:53:30.030
It works for me.
960
00:53:31.190 --> 00:53:31.449
Right.
961
00:53:32.849 --> 00:53:33.010
Yeah.
962
00:53:34.429 --> 00:53:38.469
I've got 500 rounds in the past five years down
963
00:53:38.530 --> 00:53:43.159
the pipe, and I've had no problems whatsoever. As a
964
00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:43.539
matter of fact.
965
00:53:43.559 --> 00:53:44.320
And I clean it every time.
966
00:53:44.340 --> 00:53:53.159
Exactly. At the range, when they're done. you know? Um, so,
967
00:53:54.179 --> 00:53:58.389
so yeah. Uh, but if someone's really interested, right? Like
968
00:53:58.429 --> 00:54:01.289
I've been to classes before after said gun has shit
969
00:54:01.329 --> 00:54:05.849
the bed and, uh, you know, we talk about it and, uh,
970
00:54:06.210 --> 00:54:08.030
I asked them what their decisions were. Why did they
971
00:54:08.070 --> 00:54:11.590
buy that particular gun? Um, and I tell them why
972
00:54:11.750 --> 00:54:15.309
I bought my particular guns and why they're set up
973
00:54:15.349 --> 00:54:19.429
that way and why they're ugly, but they work. Um,
974
00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:22.900
And then if they're willing to have that conversation, they're
975
00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:26.940
willing to have that conversation. If they're not, I have,
976
00:54:27.139 --> 00:54:30.469
I have learned to help people who want to be
977
00:54:30.510 --> 00:54:34.550
helped and just simply not care about people who don't,
978
00:54:36.570 --> 00:54:42.239
you know, some people get under my skin, but it
979
00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:43.599
is what it is. Yeah.
980
00:54:44.619 --> 00:54:50.690
Well, it's, and you, you brought up about, uh, following
981
00:54:50.710 --> 00:54:54.190
the example or following the advice of someone else. So
982
00:54:55.869 --> 00:54:58.829
the entity known as Roland has been someone who I've
983
00:54:58.869 --> 00:55:01.699
been following on the interwebs for a number of years,
984
00:55:03.030 --> 00:55:07.460
long before, long before primary and secondary, long before, before Facebook,
985
00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:11.380
the dude knows what he talks about. And in one
986
00:55:11.420 --> 00:55:15.639
of our mod chats, pre mod cast, he was talking
987
00:55:15.659 --> 00:55:18.750
about his everyday carry. And he was talking about this
988
00:55:18.849 --> 00:55:21.809
setup that just made sense. And he was explaining, okay,
989
00:55:21.829 --> 00:55:23.630
so I have a comp on a 19 and a
990
00:55:23.650 --> 00:55:27.449
red dot. And we have these forward serrations and explained
991
00:55:27.469 --> 00:55:29.519
it in detail. And I thought, this makes a lot
992
00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:34.139
of sense. I like this. And I thought, you know what?
993
00:55:34.679 --> 00:55:37.460
I'm going to do this. I'm going to see this
994
00:55:37.480 --> 00:55:41.980
for myself. Based on his track record, the dude's not
995
00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:45.920
going to be lying about this. The dude knows guns. Well,
996
00:55:46.199 --> 00:55:48.800
he knows performance. He always says that he's not a
997
00:55:48.820 --> 00:55:52.860
gun guy. He knows performance. He's a great shot. I
998
00:55:54.409 --> 00:55:55.489
want to follow that example.
999
00:55:56.070 --> 00:55:56.449
And I did.
1000
00:55:57.429 --> 00:55:59.889
And now we have a hashtag, Roland Special. And yes,
1001
00:56:00.849 --> 00:56:05.210
I did name that. Thank you. But no, it's all about,
1002
00:56:06.329 --> 00:56:08.769
look at the track record of who you're listening to.
1003
00:56:10.090 --> 00:56:12.780
If I want to know about how to say lame
1004
00:56:12.800 --> 00:56:15.760
jokes and work in Mayberry, I talk to Stephen Andrews.
1005
00:56:17.510 --> 00:56:19.590
If I want to know about great coffee, I talked
1006
00:56:19.610 --> 00:56:24.969
to Matt Wicks. But no, yeah, consider the source of
1007
00:56:24.989 --> 00:56:28.570
where you're getting that information. And unfortunately, especially well, no,
1008
00:56:29.320 --> 00:56:31.599
if we if we went back 10 years, if we
1009
00:56:31.679 --> 00:56:36.860
went back 20 years, we obviously wouldn't have the Internet
1010
00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:39.440
in the form it's in now. All we had were
1011
00:56:39.460 --> 00:56:42.809
a bunch of enthusiasts, not very many knowledgeable people and
1012
00:56:42.849 --> 00:56:45.429
information wasn't being spread as easily as it is now.
1013
00:56:46.289 --> 00:56:47.949
So there would be a lot of myths and there
1014
00:56:47.969 --> 00:56:49.429
would be a lot of people that would just take
1015
00:56:49.849 --> 00:56:53.570
information and, okay, this is obviously fact. Racking a shotgun
1016
00:56:53.969 --> 00:56:55.820
is an effective way to stop.
1017
00:56:57.179 --> 00:56:58.099
It's an effective deterrent.
1018
00:56:58.840 --> 00:57:01.000
Hey, you know what? Not enough people were thinking about that.
1019
00:57:01.039 --> 00:57:05.320
They accepted it. Okay, yeah, that works. Now everyone's connected.
1020
00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:08.340
We can discuss these things. We can debunk these ideas.
1021
00:57:09.409 --> 00:57:14.090
And we can also debunk these bad sources of information.
1022
00:57:14.250 --> 00:57:17.510
And unfortunately... just like with these purchases, some of this
1023
00:57:17.550 --> 00:57:22.119
bad information is also part of these people. It's part
1024
00:57:22.239 --> 00:57:23.360
of their persona.
1025
00:57:24.119 --> 00:57:32.380
The dangerous part is those people that, for lack of
1026
00:57:32.420 --> 00:57:37.769
a better term, just wrong. But man, their rap is good.
1027
00:57:38.920 --> 00:57:44.269
You know, you listen to certain Eurasian people out there.
1028
00:57:44.650 --> 00:57:52.090
You listen to people of certain defense networks out there. And, man,
1029
00:57:52.230 --> 00:57:58.360
that spiel is good. And, man, if you're– yeah, if
1030
00:57:58.420 --> 00:58:03.519
you don't know, you don't know. And it sounds good.
1031
00:58:03.719 --> 00:58:12.070
It's formulated. It is– pseudoscience right it is um and
1032
00:58:12.210 --> 00:58:16.969
if you don't have a resource that you can vet
1033
00:58:17.030 --> 00:58:19.579
that against you know and you don't hey maybe you're
1034
00:58:19.599 --> 00:58:21.320
just some fat guy who doesn't know how the body
1035
00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:26.039
works you know um you shoot two three four times
1036
00:58:26.059 --> 00:58:31.380
a year uh but you love talking about it man
1037
00:58:31.400 --> 00:58:35.980
you're gonna eat that stuff wholesale um so that you
1038
00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:39.079
know that's that's the other thing That's the other thing.
1039
00:58:39.099 --> 00:58:41.030
What you don't realize is most of those people is
1040
00:58:41.730 --> 00:58:46.269
they're getting greased, you know, by somebody else to spout
1041
00:58:46.309 --> 00:58:50.559
whatever they're spouting. I firmly believe that. I firmly believe that.
1042
00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:55.389
Yeah. I call it fast food. So social media has
1043
00:58:55.489 --> 00:59:00.449
changed how we research and get information. Obviously, there's more
1044
00:59:00.750 --> 00:59:03.829
quote unquote subject matter experts out there that people feast
1045
00:59:04.289 --> 00:59:08.269
on fast food information wise, right? Using that analogy. So
1046
00:59:08.289 --> 00:59:11.519
they're eating a lot of crappy food. food. It's very shallow.
1047
00:59:11.559 --> 00:59:13.840
There's no depth. Just look at most of the political
1048
00:59:13.900 --> 00:59:17.179
arguments that are occurring on places like Facebook. There's absolutely
1049
00:59:17.239 --> 00:59:19.579
no depth. You can ask somebody like, okay, well, you know,
1050
00:59:19.599 --> 00:59:22.059
the history of what they're talking about. And there, again,
1051
00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:25.389
there's no depth to that knowledge because it's drive through
1052
00:59:25.429 --> 00:59:28.289
mentality of information and opinions. And I think one of
1053
00:59:28.309 --> 00:59:30.889
the things that, you've done with primary secondary is you've
1054
00:59:30.909 --> 00:59:33.829
got people that know what they're talking about and so
1055
00:59:33.889 --> 00:59:39.510
when they're taking corrections or they're trying to educate through
1056
00:59:39.550 --> 00:59:42.710
social media and guide different people to to kind of
1057
00:59:42.750 --> 00:59:47.610
self-conclusions or self-awareness whatever about different topics you're talking to
1058
00:59:47.639 --> 00:59:51.139
somebody that's like a master chef i mean they're giving
1059
00:59:51.199 --> 00:59:56.260
you wholesome usable information in a very fluid format and
1060
00:59:56.280 --> 01:00:00.150
so you're consuming good food instead of just constant social
1061
01:00:00.190 --> 01:00:03.760
media garbage and so I think primary secondary has turned
1062
01:00:03.780 --> 01:00:07.500
into kind of a repository you know a living library
1063
01:00:07.679 --> 01:00:09.679
of information and experts.
1064
01:00:11.940 --> 01:00:15.179
Yeah yeah And the word's getting out. What did you
1065
01:00:15.219 --> 01:00:17.559
like let out a group on or something like that, man?
1066
01:00:17.579 --> 01:00:20.019
I mean, did you, did.
1067
01:00:19.699 --> 01:00:23.860
You, I don't know what that is. No, I'm sorry.
1068
01:00:24.480 --> 01:00:28.340
It's like a hundred people a day now for the
1069
01:00:28.380 --> 01:00:32.719
main page. And somewhere around those numbers for the, for
1070
01:00:32.739 --> 01:00:35.570
the subgroups as well. It's nuts. So.
1071
01:00:37.289 --> 01:00:40.289
Well then, and then going now focusing a little bit
1072
01:00:40.309 --> 01:00:43.550
more on us. I'm a big fan of not providing
1073
01:00:43.610 --> 01:00:46.610
lists because I don't want us to be, I want
1074
01:00:46.670 --> 01:00:49.670
us to have thinking members. I don't want, I don't
1075
01:00:49.690 --> 01:00:52.590
want to be the go-to guy. If any of the
1076
01:00:52.639 --> 01:00:55.179
moderators don't want to be the go-to guy. Cool. Let's
1077
01:00:55.219 --> 01:00:57.800
have thinking members. Let's have critical thinkers that can make
1078
01:00:57.840 --> 01:01:01.260
decisions and can help each other and then help others
1079
01:01:01.460 --> 01:01:04.159
and help others and not have everyone have to rely
1080
01:01:04.179 --> 01:01:05.280
on this core group of people.
1081
01:01:07.940 --> 01:01:11.579
It's dangerous to awesome. to create hero worship.
1082
01:01:12.860 --> 01:01:13.289
I don't want it.
1083
01:01:14.039 --> 01:01:14.239
Yeah.
1084
01:01:14.800 --> 01:01:14.980
Yep.
1085
01:01:15.219 --> 01:01:17.840
Absolutely. It's weird.
1086
01:01:18.440 --> 01:01:23.980
Yeah, it is. And the moderators are the moderators because
1087
01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:28.559
of what they know. We have, uh, enforcement moderators. We have, uh,
1088
01:01:28.599 --> 01:01:32.780
subject matter experts, but they're not there to be worshiped.
1089
01:01:32.969 --> 01:01:35.730
They're there to help. I think we have probably, I
1090
01:01:35.750 --> 01:01:38.269
would say probably 99% of our moderators and we do
1091
01:01:38.309 --> 01:01:43.429
have over 80, are here to help. We're not looking
1092
01:01:43.449 --> 01:01:45.969
to get fans. We're looking to spread good information. We're
1093
01:01:45.989 --> 01:01:48.079
also not looking for people just to come to us
1094
01:01:48.199 --> 01:01:52.480
constantly for information. I want people to think for themselves.
1095
01:01:52.500 --> 01:01:54.420
I want to train people to start thinking for themselves.
1096
01:01:54.460 --> 01:01:56.599
And if you look in a lot of our discussions,
1097
01:01:57.960 --> 01:02:00.340
there's a lot of ownership going on in the group.
1098
01:02:00.570 --> 01:02:02.570
And a lot of people are taking pride in what
1099
01:02:02.610 --> 01:02:05.929
we're accomplishing here and what we're building. And I don't
1100
01:02:05.949 --> 01:02:10.389
mean moderators, I mean the members. we're there now applying
1101
01:02:10.550 --> 01:02:15.449
the things, the tenants of what we're preaching, basically critical thinking,
1102
01:02:15.550 --> 01:02:18.210
ask why, why is wonderful? How is this occurring? Why
1103
01:02:18.250 --> 01:02:20.710
is this occurring? Why are you choosing to do what
1104
01:02:20.730 --> 01:02:24.360
you're doing? And, uh, that's awesome.
1105
01:02:24.389 --> 01:02:27.139
What you're talking about is start point versus end point.
1106
01:02:28.539 --> 01:02:30.280
Since that's part of the responsibility, I think of only
1107
01:02:30.300 --> 01:02:35.219
things like firearms, um, it goes hand in hand and, uh, a, uh,
1108
01:02:36.710 --> 01:02:39.909
The earlier question, how do you decide what to do?
1109
01:02:39.929 --> 01:02:42.980
If I read something and it's coming across as the
1110
01:02:43.019 --> 01:02:45.800
person's being lazy, they have a due diligence on their own,
1111
01:02:46.579 --> 01:02:50.909
just a basic Google search will show different things. Yeah,
1112
01:02:51.010 --> 01:02:53.750
I'm just not interested. But there's a lot of start
1113
01:02:53.789 --> 01:02:55.769
point things that I see in all the different groups
1114
01:02:55.969 --> 01:02:59.769
that I find pretty interesting sometimes. Because you can see people,
1115
01:03:00.190 --> 01:03:04.309
they start working issues themselves or they're trying something like, hey,
1116
01:03:04.389 --> 01:03:06.940
this didn't work for me. They're selling it on one
1117
01:03:06.980 --> 01:03:09.739
of the equipment boards or something like that. But they're
1118
01:03:09.760 --> 01:03:12.860
being honest with themselves. So I think that's a good second,
1119
01:03:12.880 --> 01:03:16.239
third order effect of what's been going on. The danger, again,
1120
01:03:16.300 --> 01:03:19.440
is that groupthink type of issue. And anytime you have
1121
01:03:19.480 --> 01:03:23.340
a collective, it's going to occur. But I think every
1122
01:03:23.360 --> 01:03:25.829
time it's occurred so far that I've been aware of it,
1123
01:03:26.300 --> 01:03:32.000
it's been jarred, kind of loose, especially with some of
1124
01:03:32.019 --> 01:03:35.469
the other moderators are really, I think, very conscious of that,
1125
01:03:36.860 --> 01:03:39.889
it seems like. But again, it's always going to happen.
1126
01:03:39.909 --> 01:03:42.320
Anytime you have a collective, it's going to happen. But
1127
01:03:42.380 --> 01:03:43.949
I think primary and secondary has done a good job
1128
01:03:43.989 --> 01:03:47.150
of avoiding it and then busting it up. Anyway, that
1129
01:03:47.170 --> 01:03:51.289
was very redundant. Sorry, I didn't articulate well enough there.
1130
01:03:52.949 --> 01:03:58.349
It was worth repeating a couple of times. Yeah, like
1131
01:03:58.389 --> 01:04:03.099
Rich was saying, I mean, the methodology of discovery amongst
1132
01:04:03.139 --> 01:04:08.190
the members has been impressive. you know, where you'll see something,
1133
01:04:08.210 --> 01:04:10.190
you hop in and you're like, Hey, can you give me,
1134
01:04:10.449 --> 01:04:12.909
can you give us some more details or color as
1135
01:04:12.949 --> 01:04:17.750
to what your opinion is? And one of the non-mod
1136
01:04:17.809 --> 01:04:20.110
members has jumped in and asked that same question before
1137
01:04:20.170 --> 01:04:20.710
you get there.
1138
01:04:21.210 --> 01:04:22.030
That's, that's cool.
1139
01:04:22.050 --> 01:04:24.289
That's a little, you know, that's, you know, that's like
1140
01:04:24.329 --> 01:04:27.739
a good job done by the rest of us to, to,
1141
01:04:27.880 --> 01:04:33.150
to do that, uh, and discover answers for themselves. Um,
1142
01:04:34.809 --> 01:04:38.940
Instead of just having that hero worship, cool guy kit.
1143
01:04:38.960 --> 01:04:42.599
It works for him, so it's got to work for me. Yada, yada,
1144
01:04:42.639 --> 01:04:45.159
yada crap.
1145
01:04:46.320 --> 01:04:49.659
That's something a lot of new members and actually current members,
1146
01:04:51.139 --> 01:04:55.250
they don't understand that unlike a lot of other groups.
1147
01:04:55.289 --> 01:04:57.210
I'm not trying to blow smoke up our own ass
1148
01:04:57.250 --> 01:04:59.070
and say that this is the best thing ever, but.
1149
01:04:59.650 --> 01:05:00.489
It's about time you do.
1150
01:05:00.530 --> 01:05:01.130
You never have.
1151
01:05:01.150 --> 01:05:03.730
Yeah, I'm always sugarcoating.
1152
01:05:04.340 --> 01:05:04.800
Two weeks.
1153
01:05:05.050 --> 01:05:06.820
Two weeks.
1154
01:05:07.460 --> 01:05:12.980
But this whole endeavor, even though we've got patches and
1155
01:05:13.019 --> 01:05:16.840
we've got some sponsorship and whatnot, this group isn't about
1156
01:05:17.199 --> 01:05:20.820
selling you something, either a personality or selling you.
1157
01:05:20.719 --> 01:05:21.699
Equipment and whatnot.
1158
01:05:22.380 --> 01:05:25.219
And that's what, you know, I'm not trying to pat
1159
01:05:25.239 --> 01:05:28.780
ourselves on the back, but if sometimes people get frustrated
1160
01:05:28.840 --> 01:05:32.380
with how things are run on the board and whatnot,
1161
01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:34.340
but they got to understand that it's, this isn't a
1162
01:05:34.440 --> 01:05:37.599
business for the sake of get making someone rich.
1163
01:05:38.179 --> 01:05:38.380
Yeah.
1164
01:05:38.880 --> 01:05:40.949
You know, it's not there to sell you on someone's
1165
01:05:41.010 --> 01:05:43.889
training program or sell you on someone's new piece of
1166
01:05:43.929 --> 01:05:46.429
kit or something. If something's good, someone's going to pipe
1167
01:05:46.510 --> 01:05:48.289
up and say, Hey, yeah, this worked for me, but
1168
01:05:48.349 --> 01:05:53.230
it's more about, I guess, elevating everyone's critical thinking and
1169
01:05:53.250 --> 01:05:58.010
understanding in this whole kind of industry. So, If you
1170
01:05:58.159 --> 01:06:02.500
feel yourself frustrated with how things are running, just keep
1171
01:06:02.539 --> 01:06:04.500
that in the back of your mind, I suppose.
1172
01:06:05.480 --> 01:06:06.059
Absolutely.
1173
01:06:06.300 --> 01:06:09.260
It's to serve the information. You know, Lord knows that
1174
01:06:09.860 --> 01:06:15.409
Matt's not getting rich off of this. He should, though.
1175
01:06:15.789 --> 01:06:16.190
He should.
1176
01:06:16.230 --> 01:06:16.650
Just saying.
1177
01:06:16.789 --> 01:06:17.190
He should.
1178
01:06:17.250 --> 01:06:21.150
He's such a good guy. Such a good guy. And it's,
1179
01:06:21.610 --> 01:06:24.800
you know, without sounding... It's too weird. It's in service
1180
01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:28.260
of the information. So when new people get on there
1181
01:06:28.340 --> 01:06:31.639
and we start– please read the print post. You don't
1182
01:06:31.679 --> 01:06:34.559
need to say thanks for the ad because it dilutes
1183
01:06:34.639 --> 01:06:38.460
the search of the information. Quit that shit out. If
1184
01:06:38.519 --> 01:06:43.260
you get butt hurt with that, well, you're in for
1185
01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:49.590
a ride because we're trying to preserve– the information and
1186
01:06:49.610 --> 01:06:54.670
the ability to access that information for everybody. And if
1187
01:06:54.969 --> 01:07:02.739
that cause is not important to you, please leave because
1188
01:07:02.780 --> 01:07:09.420
we're not trying to get members to show to advertisers
1189
01:07:09.500 --> 01:07:10.659
to sell banners.
1190
01:07:11.559 --> 01:07:12.380
We don't want followers.
1191
01:07:12.840 --> 01:07:13.800
We don't want followers.
1192
01:07:14.429 --> 01:07:15.889
We want thinkers.
1193
01:07:16.630 --> 01:07:21.550
Like I said before, sure. Is there a banner ad sold? Absolutely.
1194
01:07:21.570 --> 01:07:25.469
This shit just doesn't happen. This stuff costs money. But
1195
01:07:25.539 --> 01:07:26.960
on the other hand, we're not going to have one
1196
01:07:26.980 --> 01:07:31.320
of our major sponsors be Taurus like other media groups
1197
01:07:31.400 --> 01:07:33.079
out there just because they paid the most.
1198
01:07:33.539 --> 01:07:33.639
Yeah.
1199
01:07:35.130 --> 01:07:37.849
And also, as far as banners are concerned, every single
1200
01:07:37.889 --> 01:07:40.949
banner that we have up there, they're there for a reason.
1201
01:07:41.269 --> 01:07:43.210
It's not, oh, throw money and we're going to throw
1202
01:07:43.230 --> 01:07:46.679
it up automatically. No, I've turned down multiple, which they
1203
01:07:46.719 --> 01:07:48.179
just went up to our standard.
1204
01:07:50.099 --> 01:07:52.179
Yep. Yep.
1205
01:07:52.940 --> 01:07:53.519
Absolutely.
1206
01:07:55.280 --> 01:07:58.179
What about Bruce? Did Bruce want a banner? Oh, that
1207
01:07:58.199 --> 01:07:59.199
was a bad joke. I'm out.
1208
01:08:04.380 --> 01:08:08.800
Wow didn't come from me hit.
1209
01:08:08.039 --> 01:08:10.420
And run hit and run yeah it's definitely a land
1210
01:08:10.460 --> 01:08:15.710
fair quality joke though i know it had a family
1211
01:08:15.969 --> 01:08:18.590
aspect to it it was family friendly it was bad
1212
01:08:19.229 --> 01:08:20.449
right there was.
1213
01:08:20.390 --> 01:08:23.949
Uh words it was ineffective leave it to beaver.
1214
01:08:25.220 --> 01:08:29.779
It's like the equivalent of vanilla ice cream it's a
1215
01:08:29.819 --> 01:08:35.500
comedic equivalent It doesn't offend anyone. It's accessible. But you're
1216
01:08:35.520 --> 01:08:36.619
not really all that satisfied.
1217
01:08:37.539 --> 01:08:39.340
Were we laughing, though, because it was so bad or
1218
01:08:39.399 --> 01:08:40.520
because it was funny?
1219
01:08:45.159 --> 01:08:47.020
I think there's your answer right there.
1220
01:08:47.140 --> 01:08:47.579
Yeah.
1221
01:08:48.640 --> 01:08:51.590
Yeah. All right.
1222
01:08:52.029 --> 01:09:00.489
Before we were rudely interrupted by that horrible joke. But yeah. it's,
1223
01:09:00.590 --> 01:09:03.909
it's just about the information. And personally for me, the
1224
01:09:03.949 --> 01:09:06.770
threads I'm enjoying the most are about the concepts. I
1225
01:09:06.789 --> 01:09:08.689
don't care about the pistols. I don't care about the armor,
1226
01:09:08.770 --> 01:09:14.010
the gear. When we start talking about concepts or intangible things, that's,
1227
01:09:14.289 --> 01:09:14.949
that's good stuff.
1228
01:09:16.510 --> 01:09:16.710
Yeah.
1229
01:09:16.729 --> 01:09:19.800
And It's hard to make that point that it's not
1230
01:09:19.840 --> 01:09:23.680
about the money when you're wearing matching AT armor hats.
1231
01:09:23.779 --> 01:09:25.010
So I'm just saying.
1232
01:09:25.020 --> 01:09:26.250
I didn't pay for the shit.
1233
01:09:26.909 --> 01:09:29.149
It's just a good hat.
1234
01:09:29.609 --> 01:09:33.010
I didn't pay for it. Some dude put a mushroom
1235
01:09:33.029 --> 01:09:34.449
stamp on it and gave me the hat, man. I'm
1236
01:09:34.470 --> 01:09:35.930
wearing it. Multiple.
1237
01:09:37.529 --> 01:09:38.909
Did you check the box? Did you find them all?
1238
01:09:39.229 --> 01:09:41.430
I did. I found all of them. You know what?
1239
01:09:41.489 --> 01:09:42.369
You should tell the story.
1240
01:09:43.949 --> 01:09:44.500
It's a good one.
1241
01:09:44.529 --> 01:09:46.210
Am I going to put that on a modcast?
1242
01:09:46.430 --> 01:09:46.750
All right.
1243
01:09:46.789 --> 01:09:47.109
Yeah.
1244
01:09:47.729 --> 01:09:50.350
I mean, it's reasonable. People see the gray hair. They'll understand.
1245
01:09:50.970 --> 01:09:53.949
Yeah. Getting back to the classic repeated theme of hair
1246
01:09:53.989 --> 01:09:56.789
is you don't know what you don't know, right? So
1247
01:09:56.989 --> 01:10:01.739
in network support, when the space gun patch– Went out
1248
01:10:01.760 --> 01:10:02.600
for sale first.
1249
01:10:02.699 --> 01:10:02.899
Right.
1250
01:10:02.920 --> 01:10:04.800
I was like one of the first one. Hey, bought mine. Cool.
1251
01:10:05.319 --> 01:10:09.859
So Mike Martin of ATR Merced. Hey, buddy. And there's
1252
01:10:09.899 --> 01:10:14.130
an extra mushroom stamp in there for you. And I
1253
01:10:14.149 --> 01:10:17.029
did not know what that term meant. And I was like, oh, cool.
1254
01:10:17.800 --> 01:10:19.899
He's going to put in a new AT armor patch
1255
01:10:19.960 --> 01:10:21.840
for me because it kind of looked like a little mushroom.
1256
01:10:21.899 --> 01:10:24.159
I don't know what the hell that was, right? So
1257
01:10:24.260 --> 01:10:28.239
I get it and clean up the office. There happened
1258
01:10:28.260 --> 01:10:29.859
to be the envelope that came and I threw it away.
1259
01:10:29.880 --> 01:10:31.039
I was like, you know, I just need to double
1260
01:10:31.060 --> 01:10:32.420
check because he said there was going to be something
1261
01:10:32.460 --> 01:10:35.260
in here extra for me, right? So I don't see anything.
1262
01:10:35.640 --> 01:10:39.199
So I messaged him. I say, hey, man, I got
1263
01:10:39.239 --> 01:10:41.640
the patch. Thank you very much. There was nothing else
1264
01:10:41.699 --> 01:10:44.100
in there. There was like no mushroom stamp or whatever
1265
01:10:44.520 --> 01:10:50.789
that was. and he responds back with, uh, you primary
1266
01:10:50.850 --> 01:10:55.699
and secondary guys. I love you. And I respond back with, huh?
1267
01:10:56.579 --> 01:10:59.939
Is there some joke that I'm not getting laugh out loud?
1268
01:11:00.500 --> 01:11:02.380
And he goes, Oh dude, sorry, bad joke. And he
1269
01:11:02.420 --> 01:11:06.369
sends me the urban dictionary definition of what a mushroom
1270
01:11:06.390 --> 01:11:11.210
stamp was. And dude, I, I just laughed my ass off, man.
1271
01:11:11.289 --> 01:11:16.520
It's funny, man. I, uh, I consider myself hip and
1272
01:11:16.600 --> 01:11:23.689
with the streets. And the fact that I did not
1273
01:11:23.750 --> 01:11:28.850
know what a mushroom stamp was, was highly humorous. Highly humorous.
1274
01:11:30.770 --> 01:11:33.100
I mean, aren't you into Brazilian jiu-jitsu? I would imagine
1275
01:11:33.140 --> 01:11:33.960
you know what it was.
1276
01:11:34.039 --> 01:11:36.500
Dude, I will tell you what, man. If that ever
1277
01:11:36.640 --> 01:11:38.800
happened and someone said it happened to me, dude, that
1278
01:11:38.819 --> 01:11:43.119
would be one dead Brazilian jiu-jitsu practitioner right there. And no,
1279
01:11:43.159 --> 01:11:44.619
that has never happened. I may have done it to
1280
01:11:44.659 --> 01:11:46.279
other people, but I didn't know what to call it.
1281
01:11:48.479 --> 01:11:49.500
Now I know what to call it.
1282
01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:55.130
So do you have Urban Dictionary bookmarked now for all your.
1283
01:11:55.770 --> 01:12:00.270
Oh, yeah. Everything I don't understand. What does this mean? Exactly.
1284
01:12:01.539 --> 01:12:02.619
So yeah, man.
1285
01:12:03.319 --> 01:12:04.000
Kids these days.
1286
01:12:04.520 --> 01:12:08.539
I'm old. I'm getting old, man. So good times.
1287
01:12:09.060 --> 01:12:13.600
So got a question here. How would you introduce someone
1288
01:12:13.640 --> 01:12:18.659
to guns and self-defense who normally doesn't, who normally isn't
1289
01:12:18.680 --> 01:12:23.270
into that stuff? Scott, I think you probably would be
1290
01:12:23.319 --> 01:12:24.210
one of the better people.
1291
01:12:24.050 --> 01:12:32.579
To talk to. So I usually don't approach people I
1292
01:12:32.600 --> 01:12:34.039
don't initiate that contact.
1293
01:12:34.760 --> 01:12:36.319
You don't solicit on the street?
1294
01:12:36.619 --> 01:12:38.180
No, I don't. I don't walk around.
1295
01:12:38.199 --> 01:12:40.699
You want to learn about guns?
1296
01:12:40.779 --> 01:12:43.359
The Lord and Savior Raven concealment?
1297
01:12:43.420 --> 01:12:44.000
Exactly.
1298
01:12:44.039 --> 01:12:48.380
There's a Craigslist ad out there.
1299
01:12:48.460 --> 01:12:49.340
Casual encounters.
1300
01:12:50.159 --> 01:12:52.140
That's right. I walk up to him. I go, you
1301
01:12:52.159 --> 01:12:54.979
smell unwashed. Let me tell you about guns. No, I don't.
1302
01:12:55.199 --> 01:13:00.989
I don't do anything. When people come up to me, Uh,
1303
01:13:01.149 --> 01:13:03.819
it's usually, for example, like my jujitsu friends, you know,
1304
01:13:03.880 --> 01:13:08.659
they're all, you know, knuckle draggers and stuff like that.
1305
01:13:08.680 --> 01:13:11.520
So that's a natural progression. They're, they, they train, they're
1306
01:13:11.579 --> 01:13:17.180
interested in training. Um, they are usually humble guys because, well,
1307
01:13:17.199 --> 01:13:21.279
you get smashed every day, uh, and do smashing. So
1308
01:13:21.689 --> 01:13:28.609
they are usually very aware of physical limitations, um, And
1309
01:13:28.649 --> 01:13:31.430
a dude with a gun, you know, it's a great equalizer.
1310
01:13:31.449 --> 01:13:35.090
So that comes up. That's usually an easy conversation because
1311
01:13:35.229 --> 01:13:37.600
they know how to train. They know how to listen.
1312
01:13:37.640 --> 01:13:40.119
They know how to apply technique. And, you know, a
1313
01:13:41.819 --> 01:13:46.609
gun is just, you know. Gunfighting is just another martial art.
1314
01:13:46.989 --> 01:13:52.039
So they're usually the easy ones. The difficult ones, again,
1315
01:13:52.060 --> 01:13:54.920
like I was talking before about the line of questioning
1316
01:13:55.579 --> 01:13:58.859
is like neighborhood folks who happen to be Facebook friends.
1317
01:13:59.760 --> 01:14:02.699
And I may have done a crossover post on my
1318
01:14:02.739 --> 01:14:08.529
personal page about maybe a shooting match or Or when
1319
01:14:08.670 --> 01:14:12.270
I'm in one of my political ramps about self-defense and
1320
01:14:12.750 --> 01:14:15.880
politicians and stuff like that, they may ask me those questions.
1321
01:14:16.220 --> 01:14:19.300
But I can usually tell how it's going to go
1322
01:14:19.439 --> 01:14:23.239
from the way they phrase it. And my answer is
1323
01:14:23.439 --> 01:14:32.640
usually framed in kindness. If they are generally interested in, hey,
1324
01:14:32.680 --> 01:14:35.779
where should I get started? What do you actually teach?
1325
01:14:35.800 --> 01:14:38.079
What can I expect from you? How much am I
1326
01:14:38.119 --> 01:14:40.739
looking to spend? Yada, yada. Then it's a great conversation.
1327
01:14:41.890 --> 01:14:49.149
I go into it very matter-of-factly. If they come off
1328
01:14:50.409 --> 01:14:56.569
like moms against everything, it's usually a very short conversation.
1329
01:14:57.380 --> 01:15:02.779
You know, and it somewhere either eloquently or depending on
1330
01:15:02.819 --> 01:15:05.680
my mood or not, it's pretty much. Yeah, that's what
1331
01:15:05.720 --> 01:15:07.439
I do. You do what you do. Say the fuck
1332
01:15:07.460 --> 01:15:11.369
off my lawn. You know, I if you don't want
1333
01:15:11.390 --> 01:15:15.930
to carry a gun, I don't care. I really don't care. Actually,
1334
01:15:15.989 --> 01:15:18.229
I care more about the guy who carries a gun
1335
01:15:18.550 --> 01:15:22.899
who doesn't know how to use it. You know, I'm
1336
01:15:22.960 --> 01:15:27.279
more interested in helping align that person or point that
1337
01:15:27.319 --> 01:15:30.369
person in the right direction than, say, a person who
1338
01:15:30.550 --> 01:15:34.550
doesn't like guns, doesn't believe in guns, you know, yada, yada.
1339
01:15:34.750 --> 01:15:38.210
As long as you don't care what I do. Yeah,
1340
01:15:38.670 --> 01:15:41.189
that's that's cool with me. I try and end it
1341
01:15:41.250 --> 01:15:43.970
on a positive note, knowing, hey, this is my personal decision.
1342
01:15:44.390 --> 01:15:46.189
This is how I choose to defend myself and my
1343
01:15:46.250 --> 01:15:49.729
family and my household and whatnot. I'm a good person.
1344
01:15:50.979 --> 01:15:53.840
you disagree with me. You may be a good person.
1345
01:15:54.880 --> 01:15:58.600
Let's just be good people separately and, and, and, and
1346
01:15:59.100 --> 01:16:02.939
follow the decisions that we've made. But I'm not trying
1347
01:16:02.960 --> 01:16:08.970
to convince anybody. It's no, I've had plenty of people
1348
01:16:09.010 --> 01:16:12.750
who were, you know, anti or just that whole, like,
1349
01:16:12.810 --> 01:16:16.909
why do you need a gun type of thing where
1350
01:16:16.930 --> 01:16:21.180
something has happened to them? you know, and they have
1351
01:16:21.220 --> 01:16:24.260
then come back and now they get it, you know,
1352
01:16:24.340 --> 01:16:29.090
now they get that the two teenagers fighting over the
1353
01:16:29.149 --> 01:16:33.310
pot stash who happened to shoot at each other and,
1354
01:16:33.430 --> 01:16:39.029
and our quiet upscale, you know, middle-class neighborhood. And now
1355
01:16:39.109 --> 01:16:43.180
it's come home, you know, and what if they were
1356
01:16:43.239 --> 01:16:45.859
out there? What if they weren't two teenage kids? What
1357
01:16:45.899 --> 01:16:51.920
if they were to, you know, Real thugs Looking to
1358
01:16:53.140 --> 01:16:57.659
Do some damage What would you do? And those guys
1359
01:16:57.699 --> 01:16:59.579
have come And a couple people have come back to
1360
01:16:59.619 --> 01:17:04.880
me For information One actually took a lesson And bought
1361
01:17:04.920 --> 01:17:10.880
a firearm You know But Yeah That's pretty much it
1362
01:17:10.920 --> 01:17:12.579
man I don't go out of my way to do
1363
01:17:12.659 --> 01:17:17.640
anything Unless somebody's really interested I don't know if that's
1364
01:17:17.659 --> 01:17:19.960
right or wrong Yeah.
1365
01:17:21.350 --> 01:17:25.770
Typically for me, it's I'm surrounded by law enforcement. And
1366
01:17:25.810 --> 01:17:28.550
so for the most part, they kind of know about
1367
01:17:28.569 --> 01:17:29.170
guns a little.
1368
01:17:31.329 --> 01:17:31.550
Yeah.
1369
01:17:31.930 --> 01:17:35.449
And, but actually I did teach a, there was a,
1370
01:17:36.479 --> 01:17:39.880
but it wasn't a class. It was a, a church
1371
01:17:39.939 --> 01:17:43.850
group that I taught. And everyone was very excited about
1372
01:17:44.050 --> 01:17:46.350
learning about this, all this stuff. I brought some handguns
1373
01:17:46.430 --> 01:17:48.449
and some ARs and everyone had a good time. It
1374
01:17:48.789 --> 01:17:52.029
was very safe. No fatalities, no injuries.
1375
01:17:52.210 --> 01:17:52.869
It was a positive.
1376
01:17:53.569 --> 01:17:58.789
But fortunately, everyone was very open to the information being presented.
1377
01:17:59.010 --> 01:18:01.949
And so I didn't need to convert anyone. Hey, guns, ooh, scary.
1378
01:18:03.909 --> 01:18:09.149
It was enjoyable. It was just hands-on stuff. There were
1379
01:18:09.180 --> 01:18:15.189
people that weren't, gun people clearly which they definitely changed
1380
01:18:15.229 --> 01:18:18.729
their mind about uh about the whole thing after shooting
1381
01:18:18.760 --> 01:18:20.779
them and realizing hey this is actually kind of fun
1382
01:18:21.939 --> 01:18:27.699
so yeah i don't go and i don't go and
1383
01:18:28.260 --> 01:18:31.630
stand on the street corner with a with a firearms
1384
01:18:31.670 --> 01:18:34.109
manual in one hand and uh no.
1385
01:18:36.470 --> 01:18:40.180
Well Well, but there is another point, though. There probably
1386
01:18:40.229 --> 01:18:44.600
is one person in all of our lives, us being males,
1387
01:18:45.279 --> 01:18:48.770
that we all have to talk to about that subject,
1388
01:18:48.829 --> 01:18:51.029
and that's our wives. Right. You know.
1389
01:18:52.630 --> 01:18:53.210
Not Masons.
1390
01:18:54.630 --> 01:18:54.989
No.
1391
01:18:55.029 --> 01:18:55.609
No.
1392
01:18:56.489 --> 01:19:00.460
Yes, she carries all the time. Actually, she just said, hey,
1393
01:19:00.489 --> 01:19:01.800
we're going shooting on Sunday.
1394
01:19:02.479 --> 01:19:05.319
So, like, all right.
1395
01:19:05.399 --> 01:19:06.159
How does that work?
1396
01:19:06.260 --> 01:19:09.449
And you have your own range, so... Wow.
1397
01:19:09.970 --> 01:19:10.189
Yeah.
1398
01:19:10.210 --> 01:19:10.310
Yeah.
1399
01:19:11.149 --> 01:19:12.789
You know, she's like, I don't know what I'm going
1400
01:19:12.810 --> 01:19:15.090
to hunt with this year. So, you know, it's like,
1401
01:19:15.149 --> 01:19:15.470
all right.
1402
01:19:17.069 --> 01:19:21.100
Yeah. My advice to guys is it's kind of like,
1403
01:19:22.260 --> 01:19:24.300
I use this as a sales analogy too, but it's
1404
01:19:24.319 --> 01:19:27.060
the same thing with guns. You know, if I use
1405
01:19:27.079 --> 01:19:32.529
this analogy, you can't sell goldfish, right? If you walk
1406
01:19:32.609 --> 01:19:34.710
up to a fish tank and you bang on the
1407
01:19:34.770 --> 01:19:37.510
side of it, What do the fish do? They run away.
1408
01:19:37.850 --> 01:19:40.010
And that's how people are with guns. You know what
1409
01:19:40.050 --> 01:19:44.729
I mean? Wife, you have to do this. Our homestead
1410
01:19:44.789 --> 01:19:47.909
is relying upon you being proficient with a firearm. It's
1411
01:19:48.689 --> 01:19:50.989
not going to happen. But if you walk up to
1412
01:19:51.020 --> 01:19:54.180
the fish tank and lightly sprinkle food on top, they
1413
01:19:54.239 --> 01:19:57.340
eventually come to you. They got to do it the
1414
01:19:57.380 --> 01:20:02.180
way they, you know, at their pace. Otherwise, they'll shut down.
1415
01:20:02.579 --> 01:20:06.159
And I learned that pretty early on. And, you know,
1416
01:20:06.539 --> 01:20:13.239
Bev has been very receptive. And she's getting better and
1417
01:20:13.300 --> 01:20:16.340
better and better every time we go to the range.
1418
01:20:18.079 --> 01:20:24.630
That's cool. Well, I think that should do it.
1419
01:20:24.630 --> 01:20:26.539
Before I....
1420
01:20:29.260 --> 01:20:32.060
Kill the feed. I'm going to read some banners just
1421
01:20:32.069 --> 01:20:35.159
so people know what's going on. Looking at the forum,
1422
01:20:36.060 --> 01:20:40.979
we have big techs outdoors. So basically what, uh, what
1423
01:20:41.060 --> 01:20:43.800
Ike's doing for us is we mentioned it earlier. Uh,
1424
01:20:44.500 --> 01:20:49.899
essentially you're going to be given special deals from him
1425
01:20:50.039 --> 01:20:52.060
for primary and secondary. If you happen to be a
1426
01:20:52.119 --> 01:20:55.279
member of the special network support group, you'll have special
1427
01:20:55.319 --> 01:20:57.760
access to a kind of like a test and valuation, uh,
1428
01:20:58.989 --> 01:21:02.310
program where you can get various optics to try out.
1429
01:21:03.289 --> 01:21:06.930
Next up, we have the direct action resource center. I
1430
01:21:06.970 --> 01:21:09.430
like to go there. It's kind of like Christmas and
1431
01:21:10.029 --> 01:21:14.199
Disneyland and birthday. I'll roll it rolled into one excellent training.
1432
01:21:15.460 --> 01:21:19.420
I try to urge every cop and, and soldier military
1433
01:21:19.439 --> 01:21:22.800
type person that I run into try to urge, check
1434
01:21:22.840 --> 01:21:26.500
this place out, look, find out what they have to offer,
1435
01:21:26.819 --> 01:21:30.000
try to take advantage of it. I like it there.
1436
01:21:30.119 --> 01:21:33.119
I'm going there next month. DSG Arms just jumped on
1437
01:21:33.140 --> 01:21:37.310
with us. They've been providing a lot of deals on
1438
01:21:37.329 --> 01:21:42.670
their profile on the forum. Andrea is an active participant
1439
01:21:42.770 --> 01:21:48.140
on the Facebook pages. We have Hodge Defense. Jim is...
1440
01:21:47.850 --> 01:21:53.819
I talk to him on occasion. He is a wealth
1441
01:21:53.880 --> 01:21:57.069
of knowledge when it comes to the AR-15s. Magpul, we
1442
01:21:57.109 --> 01:22:01.569
have some things happening soon with Magpul. That's all I'm
1443
01:22:01.590 --> 01:22:08.449
going to say. Overwatch Precision. I love the Glock triggers. Scott,
1444
01:22:08.609 --> 01:22:11.270
have you tried their trigger, Overwatch?
1445
01:22:11.810 --> 01:22:15.189
Yeah, man, the review will be out in a week. Oh, awesome.
1446
01:22:15.720 --> 01:22:19.159
Yeah, I had one on my duty, Glock 34. I
1447
01:22:19.180 --> 01:22:22.260
love it. Let's see here. Who else? We have, yeah,
1448
01:22:22.520 --> 01:22:25.380
primary and secondary stuff, network support. SKD just jumped on
1449
01:22:25.399 --> 01:22:28.430
with us. They currently have a, well, I think there
1450
01:22:28.449 --> 01:22:31.170
are only seven days left of this sale. I think
1451
01:22:31.229 --> 01:22:37.069
it's the Ninja Training Camp. 10% off everything on the site.
1452
01:22:37.689 --> 01:22:40.029
I've spent my money there with those guys for years.
1453
01:22:42.140 --> 01:22:43.640
Let's see here. Who are we missing?
1454
01:22:44.300 --> 01:22:47.859
There's a new banner from Modern Samurai Project in the
1455
01:22:47.899 --> 01:22:49.199
chat if you want to take a quick look.
1456
01:22:49.859 --> 01:22:50.500
Oh, excellent.
1457
01:22:52.439 --> 01:22:59.229
Oh, yeah, that's going up. Anyway, let's see here. Hold
1458
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on one second.
1459
01:23:04.300 --> 01:23:05.560
Nice.
1460
01:23:05.640 --> 01:23:05.899
Yeah.
1461
01:23:06.220 --> 01:23:08.739
Nice. Dude, how do you know I actually own a
1462
01:23:08.760 --> 01:23:09.399
shirt like that?
1463
01:23:11.100 --> 01:23:11.720
Because that's you.
1464
01:23:12.199 --> 01:23:16.020
Yeah. Yeah, that is me. I love you. I love
1465
01:23:16.050 --> 01:23:18.069
how you highlighted the gray. Thanks. Good looking.
1466
01:23:19.850 --> 01:23:20.670
That's how he rolls.
1467
01:23:20.949 --> 01:23:22.250
That's how he rolls.
1468
01:23:22.670 --> 01:23:26.510
Going to our website, we have AT Armor. Now, AT Armor, Mike.
1469
01:23:28.270 --> 01:23:30.409
Mike happens to be the guy that if you want
1470
01:23:30.439 --> 01:23:32.380
a primary and secondary piece of swag, whether it be
1471
01:23:32.460 --> 01:23:37.199
a pint, a tumbler or a patch, maybe even some shirts.
1472
01:23:38.220 --> 01:23:40.140
AT Armor is the only place that's selling them right now.
1473
01:23:41.520 --> 01:23:49.000
Sons of Liberty Gunworks. Shockey just did some really cool
1474
01:23:49.060 --> 01:23:51.880
reviews of the rifle. We actually have a very long
1475
01:23:52.199 --> 01:23:56.180
review still being worked on in print form. That's going
1476
01:23:56.199 --> 01:24:00.239
to be out soon. basically what he found was their
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01:24:00.279 --> 01:24:03.859
guns are awesome. They're providing a really high quality product
1478
01:24:04.229 --> 01:24:08.270
and the price is not bad at all. It's competitive.
1479
01:24:10.109 --> 01:24:11.989
We have three new ones that are just about to be,
1480
01:24:12.270 --> 01:24:14.090
or actually two new ones that are gonna be put
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01:24:14.109 --> 01:24:19.890
out fairly soon. Robar is jumping on with us. I've
1482
01:24:19.909 --> 01:24:23.270
known about Robar for years. Let's see here. I first
1483
01:24:23.289 --> 01:24:26.430
heard about them in, I think it was like 2001, 2002.
1484
01:24:26.430 --> 01:24:28.689
a buddy of mine was talking about sending his rifle
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01:24:28.710 --> 01:24:33.020
there for some, some work done. Essentially, these are the
1486
01:24:33.029 --> 01:24:37.279
guys that you can send guns to and get, well,
1487
01:24:37.600 --> 01:24:43.779
what is it like treatments done on parts on, uh, they,
1488
01:24:43.840 --> 01:24:48.949
they do retexturing of, of, of, uh, Glocks, all kinds
1489
01:24:48.989 --> 01:24:49.270
of stuff.
1490
01:24:49.630 --> 01:24:52.729
And the, uh, the polymer ARs, man, the poly AR.
1491
01:24:53.109 --> 01:24:58.199
Also, I have their, uh, Their MP3 plus bolt in my...
1492
01:24:58.640 --> 01:25:02.939
It's actually in that rifle right there. Sucker's near indestructible.
1493
01:25:03.279 --> 01:25:05.539
And finally, we have Hill People Gear, who are just
1494
01:25:05.579 --> 01:25:08.479
about to sign on with us. I have their Mountain Serapi.
1495
01:25:10.039 --> 01:25:11.899
It's a wonderful thing. It's wonderful to have on a
1496
01:25:11.920 --> 01:25:15.149
cold day watching TV. I need more of them.
1497
01:25:17.029 --> 01:25:17.149
Yep.
1498
01:25:18.569 --> 01:25:22.680
Good companies. And yeah, these... I'm excited all these companies
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01:25:23.270 --> 01:25:26.779
participate with us in the groups on the forums, and
1500
01:25:26.800 --> 01:25:29.680
I'm excited that they want to participate even further by
1501
01:25:30.340 --> 01:25:35.579
helping funding all this. Wix, are you still with us?
1502
01:25:39.779 --> 01:25:40.090
What's up?
1503
01:25:40.789 --> 01:25:42.850
So we named all that stuff. We got to talk
1504
01:25:42.890 --> 01:25:45.010
about main gun one last time.
1505
01:25:45.750 --> 01:25:48.810
Yeah, you know, so like I told, I was telling
1506
01:25:48.869 --> 01:25:52.819
Adam before we went live on this, like, you know,
1507
01:25:53.020 --> 01:25:56.000
I was, I was expecting it to be, to be
1508
01:25:56.039 --> 01:25:59.960
pretty decent. But then, you know, it's actually pretty good.
1509
01:26:00.939 --> 01:26:04.510
It's more than pretty good. It's actually really good. I know.
1510
01:26:04.569 --> 01:26:10.489
So I joke around about drinking coffee professionally, but Chris
1511
01:26:10.529 --> 01:26:14.250
Taylor actually knows a lot more about it than I do.
1512
01:26:14.840 --> 01:26:17.159
He's done some stuff. He's written some stuff up in
1513
01:26:17.199 --> 01:26:23.250
some of our groups. Yeah, it's, it's, it's way better
1514
01:26:23.310 --> 01:26:25.359
than I thought it was going to be actually. So I'm,
1515
01:26:25.529 --> 01:26:26.710
I'm really pleasantly surprised.
1516
01:26:26.750 --> 01:26:27.289
It's good stuff.
1517
01:26:28.310 --> 01:26:31.529
And yeah, they're not an official sponsor, but they seem
1518
01:26:31.550 --> 01:26:36.170
to be popular with our guys. So yeah. Matt, any
1519
01:26:36.210 --> 01:26:36.689
final thoughts?
1520
01:26:41.979 --> 01:26:45.779
Um, no.
1521
01:26:45.800 --> 01:26:48.500
Nothing profound.
1522
01:26:48.899 --> 01:26:56.560
Um, Can't take him anywhere. Scott, anything?
1523
01:26:56.699 --> 01:27:00.630
Yeah. A couple of things. For those of you that
1524
01:27:00.649 --> 01:27:07.149
haven't heard, Velocity Systems is selling their Velocity blue, thin
1525
01:27:07.170 --> 01:27:11.789
blue line hat. It's 15 bucks. All proceeds go to
1526
01:27:11.949 --> 01:27:17.420
the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund. It's an awesome hat.
1527
01:27:18.350 --> 01:27:19.729
That's where I ran to go get it, but it's
1528
01:27:19.770 --> 01:27:22.529
actually in my car, the driver's seat ready to be
1529
01:27:22.590 --> 01:27:26.829
applied when I get in the cockpit there, but it's
1530
01:27:26.890 --> 01:27:30.149
actually an awesome hat. Um, so if you guys haven't
1531
01:27:30.189 --> 01:27:34.510
bought one, go buy it. It's awesome. Uh, always a
1532
01:27:34.569 --> 01:27:38.819
shout out to my guys over at F3. Um, thanks
1533
01:27:38.880 --> 01:27:42.100
to Steve Fisher for letting me AI this past weekend.
1534
01:27:42.119 --> 01:27:46.159
That was a great time. I learned a ton about teaching, um,
1535
01:27:46.880 --> 01:27:50.140
and realizing there's a method to his madness and you
1536
01:27:50.180 --> 01:27:52.140
actually get to really concentrate on it when you're not
1537
01:27:52.180 --> 01:27:59.239
worried about meeting standards. Um, what else? What else? Uh, Yeah,
1538
01:27:59.359 --> 01:28:01.760
that's about it. I've got a couple reviews coming out.
1539
01:28:02.779 --> 01:28:09.829
The Tactical Overwatch Precision Trigger review will be out in
1540
01:28:09.850 --> 01:28:17.329
about a week. The Nick Kydex AIWB Roland Special Holster review.
1541
01:28:17.939 --> 01:28:20.619
We'll be out in about probably about two weeks. I
1542
01:28:20.619 --> 01:28:22.939
don't want to crowd the reviews up too much. And
1543
01:28:23.000 --> 01:28:26.359
if anybody wants me to review anything, just hit me
1544
01:28:26.460 --> 01:28:30.520
up through primary and secondary, Facebook, whatever. Would love to
1545
01:28:30.670 --> 01:28:36.909
do a review for a remanufactured ammo company. And I'm
1546
01:28:36.930 --> 01:28:39.029
not kidding. Pistol.
1547
01:28:39.789 --> 01:28:39.970
Pistol.
1548
01:28:40.979 --> 01:28:46.479
9mm and I'm not kidding cool yeah that's me.
1549
01:28:47.899 --> 01:28:59.289
Rich anything nope fine Steve snarky remark what was the
1550
01:28:59.310 --> 01:29:00.869
question nothing.
1551
01:29:01.989 --> 01:29:05.390
How shiny is your swatch is your swat tab on.
1552
01:29:05.369 --> 01:29:10.689
Your uniform it's uh it it's uh it's matte because
1553
01:29:10.729 --> 01:29:15.100
it's tactical so not very shiny at all well.
1554
01:29:14.920 --> 01:29:16.739
There's a glow on that thing that you don't know
1555
01:29:16.800 --> 01:29:18.000
about then my friend.
1556
01:29:18.060 --> 01:29:23.220
Yeah if you like funny stuff there might be funny
1557
01:29:23.260 --> 01:29:27.829
stuff in the near future associated with this whole endeavor
1558
01:29:29.029 --> 01:29:29.350
we'll see.
1559
01:29:30.539 --> 01:29:31.979
Are you talking about your law enforcement career?
1560
01:29:34.850 --> 01:29:35.229
Wow.
1561
01:29:35.329 --> 01:29:39.670
We're going to throw shade on law enforcement careers.
1562
01:29:40.109 --> 01:29:41.390
Okay. Okay.
1563
01:29:42.229 --> 01:29:43.369
Well, you're talking about your pin.
1564
01:29:43.590 --> 01:29:44.670
I thought that's what you're talking about.
1565
01:29:45.130 --> 01:29:47.319
No, no, no.
1566
01:29:48.760 --> 01:29:51.100
It's okay. The negative five viewers aren't paying attention.
1567
01:29:52.520 --> 01:29:57.119
It'll be 2018 before this actually gets published anywhere.
1568
01:29:57.340 --> 01:29:58.100
At the rate we're going?
1569
01:29:58.119 --> 01:29:58.420
Yeah.
1570
01:29:58.770 --> 01:29:58.939
Yeah.
1571
01:30:00.189 --> 01:30:04.289
So what was that?
1572
01:30:04.649 --> 01:30:07.869
Well, what's the run rate right now? We're at about, well.
1573
01:30:07.890 --> 01:30:11.750
We're doing 15 minutes per day. Then we're putting in
1574
01:30:11.810 --> 01:30:14.609
some of the sit reps in there. We're at route
1575
01:30:14.609 --> 01:30:22.220
56 is going to be starting tomorrow and we're at 74.
1576
01:30:22.220 --> 01:30:24.119
None of this will be relevant by the time it hits.
1577
01:30:24.159 --> 01:30:28.680
Like the, all of Scott's, Reviews will be out already.
1578
01:30:28.939 --> 01:30:30.300
All of Scott's hair will be gray.
1579
01:30:31.359 --> 01:30:32.420
Scott will be dead.
1580
01:30:33.000 --> 01:30:35.520
I will be dead by the time. You'll be playing
1581
01:30:35.560 --> 01:30:36.539
this at my funeral.
1582
01:30:36.779 --> 01:30:39.180
Wicks will be in renal failure from all the coffee.
1583
01:30:39.199 --> 01:30:42.899
Rich will be.
1584
01:30:43.630 --> 01:30:46.130
On another contract and Lanford will still be in his
1585
01:30:46.510 --> 01:30:47.930
freaking basement.
1586
01:30:47.510 --> 01:30:48.550
Talking to no one.
1587
01:30:49.010 --> 01:30:49.850
Talking to no one.
1588
01:30:49.890 --> 01:30:50.369
With puppets.
1589
01:30:50.789 --> 01:30:55.149
With sock puppets. See, you were hurtful. Now I'm hurtful too.
1590
01:30:55.609 --> 01:30:55.989
It's true.
1591
01:30:59.600 --> 01:31:02.560
Well, then you can find us at primaryandsecondary.com. We have
1592
01:31:02.600 --> 01:31:04.119
a forum at Primary and Secondary.
1593
01:31:04.399 --> 01:31:05.579
Oh, sorry.
1594
01:31:05.619 --> 01:31:05.800
What?
1595
01:31:05.819 --> 01:31:06.270
We have you?
1596
01:31:06.819 --> 01:31:07.729
Oh, and then.
1597
01:31:08.010 --> 01:31:10.649
Meckley jumps in just as we're cutting the feed. Yeah.
1598
01:31:12.189 --> 01:31:15.449
He came in from Denny's. He was hanging out with Levi.
1599
01:31:16.210 --> 01:31:20.609
Oh, he's been changing diapers and cradling babies. That's what
1600
01:31:20.649 --> 01:31:21.399
he's been doing.
1601
01:31:21.949 --> 01:31:25.239
And yeah.
1602
01:31:26.979 --> 01:31:28.619
We're going to keep this rolling after I kill the feed,
1603
01:31:28.819 --> 01:31:30.619
just so you guys know, because we need to go
1604
01:31:30.649 --> 01:31:33.270
through those, uh, some more of those ads because Wix
1605
01:31:33.279 --> 01:31:39.210
really enjoyed that. Um, primary and secondary.com primary and secondary.com
1606
01:31:39.229 --> 01:31:43.909
slash forum is our forum. We have 536 different Facebook groups. Um,
1607
01:31:44.789 --> 01:31:48.869
we're on Instagram, Twitter, Patreon.
1608
01:31:49.670 --> 01:31:49.930
Yeah.
1609
01:31:50.390 --> 01:31:53.350
Yeah. Steve's on all kinds of stuff too.
1610
01:31:53.710 --> 01:31:54.090
Grinder.
1611
01:31:55.090 --> 01:31:55.390
Grinder.
1612
01:31:55.489 --> 01:31:55.869
Exactly.
1613
01:31:57.270 --> 01:31:58.520
Michael's about to shoot himself.
1614
01:31:59.760 --> 01:32:01.699
Well, he's going to shoot himself because he's so sad
1615
01:32:01.739 --> 01:32:02.619
that he showed up late.
1616
01:32:03.439 --> 01:32:04.489
One shot, one hero.
1617
01:32:07.109 --> 01:32:09.520
Well, that should do it. We'll talk to you guys later.