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Hello I'm Rob Beckett and I'm Josh Willicombe.
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Welcome to Parenting.
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Hell the show in which Josh and I discuss what
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it's really like to be a parent which I would
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say can be a little tricky.
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So to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about
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the trials and tribulations of modern day parenting each week
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we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're
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coping or hopefully how they're not coping and we'll also
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be hearing from you the listener with your tips advice
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and of course tales of parenting woe because let's be
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honest there are plenty of times where none of us
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know what we're doing Hello, you're listening to Parenting Hell with... OK, Florence,
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can you say Rob Beckett?
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Rob Beckett. Can you say Josh Widdicombe? Josh Widdicombe. Whose
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birthday is it today? Whose? What's your name? Josh.
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Yay! There we go. This is Florence from Middlesbrough.
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Oh, fuck.
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Intrigued to see where Rob recognised the accent from.
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Well, that's gone forever. Middlesbrough. Yeah, correct.
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She's gone very cute and a bit posh for this
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voice now, I must admit. No kid to myself, but
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this is my four-year-old niece, Florence. It was her birthday
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when we recorded this, and I loved the podcast since
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you started. Me and my mate Alice listen all the time,
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and we're hoping to get tickets if you do another tour.
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Keep being sexy and relatable. Lucy, also from Borough. UTB
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up the borough maybe up the borough yeah up the
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borough Middlesbrough fans if you want to come we've got
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one more gig on our world's high Dubai yeah Monday
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oh no we're doing Glastonbury and we're doing Glastonbury yeah
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yes on Saturday about one o'clock is it yeah in
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the tent yeah in the cabaret tent cabaret shall we
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reveal I'm a bit worried about reveal what piece of
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piss Rob no not about the gig that's fine about
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all the people there yeah there is a lot all
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the cabaret people Oh, there's a lot of rollies going
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around backstage. But there's a lot of people in leather waistcoats.
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Oh, no.
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People where it's a lifestyle. The people that haven't seen,
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you know, like people that don't watch Match of the Day.
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There's not going to be a lot of Match of
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the Day watching going on backstage, Rob.
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Fair enough. But there will be.
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A lot of people who will be talking about the
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glory days of street performance. And they're due to come.
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I really struggled to get on border street performance and
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I don't want to alienate. It's not my, it's not
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my scene.
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I just feel like if it's entertaining enough, you'll have
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a roof. Do you know what I mean? It's like,
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I feel like if you're on the street, you've tried
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to go inside and no one went in.
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So you've had to go back out again.
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Yeah.
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Put your hat on the floor on that baggy tightrope
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i don't know you know you know each of their
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own each of their own not for me though josh
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are you looking forward to glastonbury i'm a bit concerned
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are you nervous we've had to move on this is
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the most parenting hell thing ever why have we moved
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our set we were supposed to be on the friday
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lunchtime so then we could enjoy glastonbury as much as
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possible but josh has very kindly allowed us to move
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the set to Saturday lunchtime because I got confused. It's
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my daughter's sports day on the Friday of Glastonbury.
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Classic, classic.
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So I'm going to kids sports day in the morning,
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then me and Lou are driving down and we'll get
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there too late. I don't want it to be stressful.
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And then we can go and watch Arctic Monkeys and
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then do our show.
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So what, are you going to go, because guns.
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I'm not going to go to Guns N' Roses. Can
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you talk me through what a day, say, talk me
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through what, if we're shadowing you.
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Wake up.
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Wake up. 5K run around the site. Really?
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No, of course not.
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I don't know what you carny folk do.
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I'm not a carny folk. You're a carny.
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So, I go and watch bands. This is my first
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sober Glastonbury, Rob. Right, talk to me about this. This
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is interesting. Yeah, it is interesting. You're not wrong about that.
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What's the plan? Well, I've been sober now. Well, sober's
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a big word, isn't it? I'm not drunk, sorry.
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Just check my app. 66 days. 66 days. Okay, solid. Yeah.
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Normally at Glastonbury, it's debauchery.
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Right, okay, so it's like, so you and your little gang,
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the culture of that trip to Glastonbury is go mad
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for it because it's one weekend a year where anything
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goes and then you spend the week recovering.
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The next week. Yeah.
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But I'm not doing that this year. Okay, so what's
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your plan of action?
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Just enjoy the music, man.
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Just enjoy the music, man. My problem would be, though,
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if I'm doing what you're doing, is everyone else around me,
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if they're still doing that type of thing. Yes, I know.
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That is a worry. But I think I'll be fine.
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I think I'll just go to bed after the headliner.
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I don't think I'll go on till... I'm definitely doing that.
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Go to stay out after the headliner to go to
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that weird spider thing where there's fire and drunk people.
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Fuck off. So me and you can go to bed
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together and everyone else can go and have fun.
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Well, my issue, my worry about it is hell is
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other people. It's more mainstream than you think as a
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group of people.
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And in a way, though, that's worse to a point
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because it's a lot of people there and it's a
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lot of people where this is their massive blowout of
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the year where that's the kind of lifestyle I used
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to operate where I'd work, work, work, and on a
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Friday get battered or go away for the weekend, get
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battered with mates.
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And go mad.
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I used to talk like that until 66 days ago, yes.
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Well, I'm trying to create a new calm and content
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all the time.
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And it's never amazing.
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Snap, Rob, that's me. That's me. But it's never low.
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I'm living my eight out of ten life every day
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rather than tens and ones.
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That's what I'm looking for.
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But Glastonbury is a field full of people on ten.
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Not just on 10.
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They're on a lot of other things as well.
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But they're all going to be on one next week.
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But I would quite like to be on eight at Classically.
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I'd like to, on Monday, be on eight.
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So you're just going to go home. And you're going
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with Rose. Is Rose going to be out drinking? But
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she's got loads of mates anyway. So you've got to
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go and.
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She can stay out.
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Exactly. It's going to be great. I'm really excited about
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loads of the bands. I'm going to watch the Hives.
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And then I'm going to watch the Lightning Seeds because
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I'm 70 years old.
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By the way, the secret band on, not before the
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Arctic Monkeys, but the one before, there's a band called
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The Churn Ups that no one knows who it is,
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but it's the Foo Fighters who are on at 6pm.
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Oh, really? Yeah.
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That's exciting. There's something fun for you.
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Apparently. Apparently. Apparently.
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Oh, here we go.
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This is classic Glastonbury talk. People chatting shit off their
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faces behind a toilet.
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It's going to be interesting. And you turn up, and
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it's not the churn-ups, is it?
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It's like Tony Hadley doing an acoustic set, and you're like,
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what the fuck is this?
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And they're going, no, he's really good. He's got some
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great stuff, has he? No offence, Tone. I don't watch
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Tony Adly do an acoustic set in a field. I
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would say if I was at home, as a fan
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of this podcast, I'd be very excited about the post-Glastonbury
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episode to see how Rob reacts to going to Glastonbury
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and I react to going to Glastonbury sober. Well, that's
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what they say about drinking, isn't it? It's borrowing happiness
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from tomorrow.
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So what I'd say is... The thing to get you
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through it, I think will be good, is one, I'll
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tell people to piss off if they start trying to
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get you drinking because people will.
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And I can be the enforcer.
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Thanks, mate.
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And then because on top of that, I'll also recommend
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that whenever you have that, oh, shall I, shall I not,
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just think about 10 a.m.
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Saturday morning. Yeah. When everyone else feels awful.
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And you are going to wind the tape forward, mate.
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You've got either decaf coffee or decaf tea.
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Sit in there.
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You can have a caffeine tea. Why not have a
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caffeine coffee, mate? Because I'm fucking away for the weekend.
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That's your Glastonbury. Why don't you just have loads of coffee? Yeah.
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And just get off your face and coffee. Maybe I
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will be up until 3am. After all. Just get on
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Red Bull. Just get obsessed with that.
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That's always good. Replace an addiction with an addiction. I
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don't think you had an addiction, did you? You just,
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it affected your mood too much. Well, let's not go
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into it, Rob.
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No. Should I tell you a couple of things before
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we do Scott's intro that might be of interest? We
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got a taxi the other day somewhere, me, Lou, and
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the kids.
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And the kids were really excited because I was meeting
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their friends and was going on a day out. And
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they were screaming so much and cheering. And we ended
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up playing the A to Z game of animals to
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try and kill time.
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Name an animal with an.
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A and whatever. Screaming and joking.
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Anyway, they got dropped off by the taxi.
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kids were so loud. right, on the way.
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Called the implied. And he, I think, how would you
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reply to that normally? Don't worry about that. They're very sweet.
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Very sweet.
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Or, oh, don't worry, they weren't that loud. Yeah.
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You know, I think you have a go, oh, don't
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be silly, they're really sweet. Or they weren't that loud. Or, oh, really,
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I didn't notice it. Even if you did, right?
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The reply I got was, don't worry, I'm used to
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loud kids. Oh. Oh.
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Don't worry.
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I was like, Okay, we're just all accepting that they're
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really loud.
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I was in denial. Josh, Scott Bennett. This is a
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really good interview, isn't it? Really good.
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Brilliant.
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We're going to get Scott back on to do more
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of a general chat about kids because he's absolutely hilarious.
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Brilliant comic. But this is a long-form anecdote that is unbelievable. Yes,
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about their daughter that had... medical complications at a very
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young age um the uh so trigger warning to anyone
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it doesn't really want to listen about um a young
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young babies with medical issues and problems it's there's a
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happy ending it's all it's all very positive which is
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very lucky um and wonderful but it's a journey and
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it's quite a shocking journey.
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It's quite a shocking journey but there is a happy
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ending scott tells it brilliantly, hilariously.
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Very funny.
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Very funny, man.
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And we're going to get him back on for more
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of a general chit-chat because this is such an interesting story.
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But we've got him on for this. He's also on tour,
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and he's a really funny comedian. This is Scott Bennett.
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Scott Bennett.
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Welcome to the podcast, Scott Bennett. Thank you very much, Scott.
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Thank you. Thank you for having me. It's an early one,
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isn't it? It is. I was just saying before we
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got started, when this came through and it said 9am,
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I was.
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Like, what the fuck is wrong with these guys?
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Do you know what I genuinely thought? That you two
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were in Australia. LAUGHTER That was the only thing that
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made sense to me. I thought, well, they're in Australia.
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It'll be like 10 o'clock at night there. We're all
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rock and roll comics. And they were like, no, it's genuinely,
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we're going out before the end of GB News.
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That's what we're doing.
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Not GB News. Adil Ray is still discussing politics.
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This is a thing for anyone else, but for parents,
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nine o'clock is like, no, that makes complete sense. You've
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been up. Well, yeah. Three hours. To be fair.
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This is how you get to the top of podcasting, mate.
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You start early. We're doing 16 episodes today. We will
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be working till 10pm. Not many people know that me
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and Rob record all of Parenting Hell for a year
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in the space of a week.
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And then we just have 51 weeks off. We have
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you now.
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We've just done a few acts in Hong Kong and
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then we're going to wait for LA to go live
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and then we'll be doing all the LA guys. It
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was a 24-hour process.
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This is a worse contract than working for Amazon.
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I do sometimes think, you know, Rob, you've got a
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job that you love and you get to pick your hours.
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Why the fuck are you doing this at 9am?
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Well, the mad thing is, is I said to you
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that my kids are on holiday.
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They're in bed.
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They've just hit full student mode.
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So they're not even awake, your kids? No, my seven-year-old doesn't.
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surface till 10 it's just yeah just comes down like
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you know like a student.
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Well it's been great to have you on Scott but
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I think we have to end it there I don't
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think I can handle a.
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Full episode of your daughter waking up what time is
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she going to bed I don't know well I think
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I don't know.
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What time she's going to bed whatever question you're answering
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then how old or what time she goes to bed
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he said don't know.
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Can I just say it's gone a bit lax this
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week right right okay we've sort of it's drifted Yeah.
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To be fair, it's only Thursday. It's not like week
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four of the summer holidays. I know. Well, the problem
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was is that they've started sleeping. My eldest tends to
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look after the youngest in the morning. So she'll sort
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of get her breakfast for her because the eldest is 12.
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And me and Gemma were laid next to each other
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last week. It was like a Sunday. And I was like,
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my God, it's like half 10. And we could hear
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them downstairs. And she was like, oh, this is brilliant,
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isn't it? They're looking after each other. I was like, well,
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it's not. It's neglect.
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It's neglect.
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It's just bad parenting mate it's shaking near the eldest
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boiling pans.
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Yeah boiling pans at 8am going for fuck's sake two
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more hours until she's down for breakfast fully laid out
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table livid so what time what time do they go
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to bed at the moment uh don't panic i'm not
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from the council.
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Youngest is i know it does feel like i'm being
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judged now i would say 10 for the youngest Is
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that too late? Let's rein it back at night.
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What, like when you're filling in how much alcohol units
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you do at the doctor?
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Let's go for what's acceptable. I'll put in the truth
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and acceptable.
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What are the units for 15 pints Friday and Saturday?
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How many units is that, Doc? If you were a doctor,
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I'd say seven, but... Seven pints.
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No, they're never going to bed at 7, 10 p.m.
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I think 10 p.m. is a bit late, but it's
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Easter holidays. I think you can be let off. And also,
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you've got a 12-year-old, so it's very difficult to get
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the youngest to do what the eldest was doing when
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they were seven.
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Yeah, and they sort of squirrel away. And I put up,
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I mean, this is my life at the moment. I
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put up some LED lights in a bedroom the other day,
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my oldest. Now, this is the thing, apparently. You can
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control them with a phone. So what I've done is
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I've combined keeping her awake with a device. So it's
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perfect parenting.
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So she has to turn her lights off with her phone,
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which is really good. That's an excellent one. I think
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they say that, don't they?
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It's a good way to calm down before bed, to
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be in charge of a lighting rig from your phone
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at 12.
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Yeah, to be a roadie for pink flies before you
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nod off. That's what I was doing the other day,
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was putting lights up in the bedroom.
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I don't know if you get this, Scott, but I
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get a slight lockdown flashbacks when the kids are off school.
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Definitely.
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You know, like when they're off over Easter and you're
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not on holiday or you're not doing anything fun that day,
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you're sort of in the house looking at each other.
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I start getting panicked after going to check the news
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in case we're not allowed in the nan round.
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I think Gemma gets a bit annoyed with me because
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I'm one of those people that I feel like I
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need a plan for the day. I don't know if
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you guys are like that, but I feel like we
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have to have.
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You're talking to two guys that have organised a podcast
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at 9am, I think.
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Yeah, 9am.
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You certainly didn't need a plan when we gave you one,
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did you?
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You're livid. But, I mean, it's just like the idea of, like,
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we need to be doing something. We've got to get
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out at some point. Get on the bikes or just...
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I just had the idea of... I can see in
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the shed, these bikes I got, I'm just decaying. It's like,
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you know, you drive a car off the forecourt. It's
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like those bikes are losing value on an hourly rate.
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Well, I feel like that, but it's hard to try
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and get them in the park. It's so wet and cold.
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it's a bit cold. They don't want to ride a
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bike in this. We get about two weeks a year
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where it's bike riding weather for kids really.
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Yeah. And I think Gemma always thinks I'm going through
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this checklist of how to be a perfect parent. But
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I'm just like, it's three o'clock and we haven't moved.
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It's not normal.
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But to be fair, they've only been up for two hours.
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They've only just finished breakfast, Scott.
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Well, breakfast just goes into dinner. That's what we do.
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It just, every meal just, you know. Can I go
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out now? It's evening meal time.
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You do a podcast with your wife, Gemma. Where are
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you now, though? It looks like you're in a garden shed.
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Is this your own podcast booth and you also do
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a podcast with Gemma that's filmed.
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In the house? You've got proper stuff up. You've got
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foam on the ceiling.
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Yeah, so what happened was when I quit my job,
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my proper job Gemma said what was that I was
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a product designer so I had like a career and everything.
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Oh yeah of course yeah and uh I should know
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that because you told us that when you did the
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live shows of us Scott it's.
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All right glad I made an impact and so when
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I quit my job Gemma said well you'll need a
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place to write so I came home from work the
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week I'd quit and this was in the garden she'd
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had this shed put in.
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Well it's like a gift it's like you've quit your
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job oh that's nice I mean you say a gift
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and now you can't work in the house Yeah.
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It's not a gift, is it?
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It's quite a passive-aggressive gift, isn't it? Exactly.
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She's put me in a kennel, Josh, is what she's
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done to me.
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Literal doghouse.
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I couldn't get any further away. I'm so far away
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from the house that the Wi-Fi cuts out. Oh, no. Oh, my.
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So I've had the internet put in. I've had it
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all insulated.
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Nice. And in lockdown, obviously, this is where I did
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most of the Zoom gigs that we did. Yeah. of
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course yeah so.
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Yeah what are you doing heating wise scott in the
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oil oil heaters yeah mate.
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It feels apocalyptic if i'm being honest i feel like
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one of those people in in america that you know
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live off roadkill and stuff like that but yeah we
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started doing a podcast after the lockdown And then someone
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said to me the other day, which is an interesting
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and I've never considered, doing a podcast with your wife
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is great. You know what I mean? You get, you know,
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opposing views. You get the truth regularly. You get honesty.
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But the problem is now we're sort of in a
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contract to stay together.
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Yes.
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Oh, no, I don't know.
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I think people would listen more if you were going
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through a messy divorce and you met up every week
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to have a chat.
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Yeah, I think so. On Patreon.
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I wouldn't be surprised if someone does that. They do
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a fake divorce for listens.
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Yeah, do you imagine that week one who gets the
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kids little teaser trailer?
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Oh, God. Actually, it sounds quite bleak. And if it
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was a popular one, you know, people would probably go to...
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Can you go to divorces?
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Is that like one of the core things that you're
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allowed to.
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What, sitting and watching it?
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I don't know.
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That can't be true.
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That's sick, Josh. You sick fuck. Josh, you're just shuffling in.
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Rob.
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I'd judge you, Josh, and then I'd be texting you
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every five minutes going, what's happened?
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What does he want? What's she getting? How's it going? So, yeah,
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we do that. But we found, actually, it sounds weird
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to say this, but it does give us a chance
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to chat properly. It might only be like two hours
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a week, but the kids are at school and you
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feel like you actually... reconnect as a couple it's really
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weird it is weird and it's quite nice actually.
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So what about holidays when you go on holiday do
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you still do the podcast or is that a break.
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Well we try and record in advance actually but we
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have it's really weird because i sort of said to
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jemma our our time together is really bizarre like the
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other day we went mattress shopping right and we'd made
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a point have you ever bought a new mattress recently
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um not no i don't think i've ever bought a
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mattress What are you sleeping on? Do you know what?
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I've never bought a mattress.
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What are you talking about? I've never bought a mattress.
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You must have. No, I haven't.
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Well, what are you sleeping on? Well, I used to
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be in rented accommodation.
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Right.
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Oh. So that would be furnished when I was in
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my 20s and my late teens. And then my first house.
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Thinking about that, that is sleeping on a mattress that's
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been through numbers of people. I did it as well,
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but looking back now, I know needs must, but... I mean,
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imagine what's happening in a hotel bed.
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I want it every night. Oh, don't. I mean, hotels, lots.
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Don't talk about that.
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Yeah, I think worse things have happened on hotel beds
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than on student mattresses.
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Maybe not.
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Could I just say the reason I've never bought a mattress?
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I don't believe Rob's ever bought a mattress either.
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Oh, yeah, me and Lou have.
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Because the first place I bought was with Rose. And
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00:19:24.319 --> 00:19:26.359
so Rose ordered a mattress.
498
00:19:26.920 --> 00:19:29.660
Me and Lou have been to a shop to try
499
00:19:29.720 --> 00:19:31.460
mattresses to buy one together.
500
00:19:31.799 --> 00:19:36.759
Oh, you pervs. Guess what's happened on those mattresses before, Rob?
501
00:19:36.890 --> 00:19:38.440
What I would say is don't get memory foam. You
502
00:19:38.480 --> 00:19:39.140
lose purchase.
503
00:19:39.740 --> 00:19:42.500
Well, so you've done the thing of laying. That's the
504
00:19:42.519 --> 00:19:44.809
weird thing when you see other couples laying with their
505
00:19:44.869 --> 00:19:48.289
shoes on on beds two in the afternoon. Yeah. Have
506
00:19:48.309 --> 00:19:49.869
you never done that, Josh, then, actually?
507
00:19:49.890 --> 00:19:52.259
No. Rose just picks it. No wonder you're not sleeping.
508
00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:55.480
I'm sleeping really well. I should say you should get
509
00:19:55.500 --> 00:19:57.799
a mattress topper. That is an absolute game changer.
510
00:19:57.819 --> 00:19:58.440
Have you got one of them?
511
00:19:58.799 --> 00:20:00.369
Yes, we've got one. It's good stuff.
512
00:20:00.589 --> 00:20:03.390
Sorry, Scott. We were getting bad backs, so we just
513
00:20:03.410 --> 00:20:06.349
thought we need to sort the mattress out. But yeah,
514
00:20:06.369 --> 00:20:07.970
it was that weird moment, sort of two o'clock in
515
00:20:07.990 --> 00:20:10.410
the afternoon. They say never go shopping when you're hungry.
516
00:20:10.490 --> 00:20:12.869
I think never do mattress shopping when you're tired. I
517
00:20:12.869 --> 00:20:16.589
was laying next to Gemma and we were sort of
518
00:20:16.609 --> 00:20:17.799
going like, I could go now.
519
00:20:18.299 --> 00:20:20.740
Two o'clock in the afternoon in dreams, just go.
520
00:20:21.470 --> 00:20:24.079
Yeah, I think being a parent with young kids, every
521
00:20:24.119 --> 00:20:26.279
mattress is fine. It's hard to judge it.
522
00:20:26.299 --> 00:20:28.299
This is the thing. She was like, what do you
523
00:20:28.319 --> 00:20:30.440
think of this one? I was like, they're all great.
524
00:20:31.200 --> 00:20:34.640
We're laying down. We're on our own. It's all great.
525
00:20:34.720 --> 00:20:38.210
Can you just leave us? I just want 20 minutes
526
00:20:38.549 --> 00:20:40.869
in dreams on a Sunday afternoon.
527
00:20:41.150 --> 00:20:43.950
Well, I think this is one of my business plans
528
00:20:43.970 --> 00:20:46.289
that I'm never going to do, is I don't want
529
00:20:46.329 --> 00:20:48.220
a hotel room, but sometimes.
530
00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:50.720
I just want a bed for an hour. You can
531
00:20:50.779 --> 00:20:53.359
find them in town. I'm so with you on that.
532
00:20:53.660 --> 00:20:55.519
It's when they kick you out of a hotel at
533
00:20:55.559 --> 00:20:59.720
like midday and you're just wandering like a zombie. I
534
00:20:59.759 --> 00:21:03.789
just want to lay down. I think that's a comedian problem.
535
00:21:03.809 --> 00:21:04.470
I don't know.
536
00:21:05.069 --> 00:21:08.069
Most other people aren't killing five hours in Norwich to
537
00:21:08.089 --> 00:21:10.250
do a gig for 20 minutes at nine o'clock.
538
00:21:10.410 --> 00:21:12.829
But say you're meeting your friends for dinner. Say you
539
00:21:12.890 --> 00:21:15.400
finish work at five. And you meet your friends for
540
00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:17.480
dinner at seven and you think, I might just go
541
00:21:17.519 --> 00:21:20.700
for a lie down at Josh's Mattress Emporium. Do you know,
542
00:21:20.720 --> 00:21:22.660
because what happens is you end up having.
543
00:21:22.440 --> 00:21:24.579
Three pints on your own. Yeah, exactly.
544
00:21:25.099 --> 00:21:27.200
Do you know once, this was a low moment, I
545
00:21:27.240 --> 00:21:30.950
was hungover and I was going to Plymouth match and
546
00:21:31.009 --> 00:21:32.910
I misjudged how long it would take to get to
547
00:21:32.950 --> 00:21:35.670
Paddington and I was brutally hungover and I had an
548
00:21:35.769 --> 00:21:38.690
hour to kill at Paddington at 9am on a Saturday morning.
549
00:21:39.529 --> 00:21:42.349
And I paid five pounds for the shower so that
550
00:21:42.369 --> 00:21:44.779
I could just lie on the floor for 45 minutes.
551
00:21:44.910 --> 00:21:45.619
What shower?
552
00:21:46.039 --> 00:21:49.240
That sounds like the bleakest that you in the fetal position.
553
00:21:49.619 --> 00:21:51.579
You know, you can pay a fiver for a shower
554
00:21:51.640 --> 00:21:52.240
at Paddington.
555
00:21:52.259 --> 00:21:52.900
They've got showers.
556
00:21:52.920 --> 00:21:54.779
I didn't know that. Yeah, you can pay a fiver.
557
00:21:54.839 --> 00:21:56.319
And I was just like, I could just lie on
558
00:21:56.339 --> 00:21:57.740
the floor in private here.
559
00:21:57.900 --> 00:22:01.119
That is amazing. I can imagine you just curled up
560
00:22:01.140 --> 00:22:03.319
with a little bottle of Radox. You have to bring
561
00:22:03.400 --> 00:22:05.910
into the illusion that you needed a shower. It's a
562
00:22:05.940 --> 00:22:11.660
cover story. Well, I've often thought there should be a
563
00:22:11.720 --> 00:22:15.420
cinema for tired parents. That's just called the cinema. Yeah, exactly.
564
00:22:15.440 --> 00:22:19.140
But there's no film. The music starts. The lights go down.
565
00:22:19.559 --> 00:22:22.420
Everyone just puts eye masks on, sleeps for three hours,
566
00:22:22.759 --> 00:22:23.220
comes out.
567
00:22:23.240 --> 00:22:25.819
I'm thinking about taking earbuds next time. But I think
568
00:22:25.859 --> 00:22:28.079
then it does become, again, a neglect thing where if
569
00:22:28.099 --> 00:22:29.880
you're asleep with earbuds in and your kids are in
570
00:22:29.900 --> 00:22:31.880
the cinema with you, you're not really looking after them,
571
00:22:31.980 --> 00:22:32.200
are you?
572
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Yeah.
573
00:22:32.809 --> 00:22:36.450
Yeah, no. You wake up and they've gone and they're
574
00:22:36.490 --> 00:22:39.299
just eating pick and mix outside. Or you could handcuff
575
00:22:39.319 --> 00:22:41.019
yourself to them and then you're just there.
576
00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:41.359
What, like.
577
00:22:42.609 --> 00:22:43.930
And then they can't go.
578
00:22:44.869 --> 00:22:46.049
Like, it's the fugitive.
579
00:22:46.509 --> 00:22:48.789
Yeah, I think that wouldn't do any long-lasting damage, would it?
580
00:22:48.799 --> 00:22:49.319
No, no.
581
00:22:49.430 --> 00:22:52.539
Anyway, I'm going to handcuff myself to you, put my
582
00:22:52.720 --> 00:22:54.440
earphones in, and I'll see you in two hours.
583
00:22:54.500 --> 00:22:55.799
It'd be like when your gran used to give you
584
00:22:55.839 --> 00:22:58.339
that sweater at Christmas that had the mittens sewn to
585
00:22:58.359 --> 00:23:02.220
the sleeves. They'd just be dragging their dad through the fire.
586
00:23:02.400 --> 00:23:03.589
That is quite good, though, for kids.
587
00:23:03.619 --> 00:23:05.589
Lou's done that before, where you don't tie it to
588
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the actual sleeve. You put it on a big bit
589
00:23:06.970 --> 00:23:09.569
of string that goes through the sleeves and the back.
590
00:23:09.970 --> 00:23:10.470
That's quite good.
591
00:23:10.490 --> 00:23:10.670
Wow.
592
00:23:10.869 --> 00:23:13.170
Yeah. Oh, like this? Yeah. Yeah, like a sort of
593
00:23:13.210 --> 00:23:14.690
a drawstring with mittens on the end.
594
00:23:14.710 --> 00:23:17.410
Yeah, brilliant. I was going to say, Scott, obviously you
595
00:23:17.450 --> 00:23:19.109
came and helped us get in the live show together.
596
00:23:19.130 --> 00:23:20.549
So thank you very much for that. It was very
597
00:23:20.609 --> 00:23:21.630
funny on that.
598
00:23:21.869 --> 00:23:24.259
But you told me the story about your daughter when
599
00:23:24.279 --> 00:23:26.059
she was born with a rare condition.
600
00:23:26.079 --> 00:23:29.160
Yeah. And we drove, I think it was from Hexham
601
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back to sort of.
602
00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:33.099
somewhere in the middle of nowhere where you told this
603
00:23:33.119 --> 00:23:35.740
story for about 50 minutes non-stop and it was i
604
00:23:35.779 --> 00:23:38.319
couldn't believe it was like it was like a sort
605
00:23:38.339 --> 00:23:40.619
of netflix drama but i wasn't in the car so
606
00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:43.359
i'm looking forward to this yeah yeah josh isn't aware
607
00:23:43.400 --> 00:23:45.039
of what what went down so do you mind telling
608
00:23:45.059 --> 00:23:45.880
us that story.
609
00:23:45.640 --> 00:23:47.440
Of course yeah there was a point i think where.
610
00:23:47.279 --> 00:23:49.099
Rob's just gonna put his earbuds in and go to
611
00:23:49.119 --> 00:23:52.220
sleep There was a point where I think Rob looked
612
00:23:52.339 --> 00:23:54.029
out at the side of the road and said whether
613
00:23:54.049 --> 00:23:56.769
he could roll out and get on the reservation.
614
00:23:56.829 --> 00:23:58.769
I think he was considering just opening the door. I
615
00:23:59.529 --> 00:24:00.180
had to roll it out.
616
00:24:00.190 --> 00:24:02.960
Can you just slow down to a walking pace, mate?
617
00:24:03.220 --> 00:24:05.650
Out. Well, no, I was mesmerised by it.
618
00:24:05.650 --> 00:24:06.529
It's an amazing story.
619
00:24:06.549 --> 00:24:09.099
But yeah, Josh hasn't heard. He wasn't in the car.
620
00:24:09.150 --> 00:24:10.579
He was getting chauffeured driven by someone else.
621
00:24:10.720 --> 00:24:11.819
Oh, come on now.
622
00:24:11.839 --> 00:24:13.140
I thought I'd jump in with Scott.
623
00:24:13.839 --> 00:24:17.619
Axel Rose, separate transport. But yeah, I mean, I'll keep
624
00:24:17.680 --> 00:24:18.380
it light.
625
00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:19.099
It was interesting.
626
00:24:19.140 --> 00:24:22.119
I mean, the thing is, I think, obviously, we're all
627
00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:24.529
parents and no one really talks about when the kid
628
00:24:24.589 --> 00:24:27.150
is ill or something happens. It seems to be like
629
00:24:27.269 --> 00:24:29.869
one area of parenting that I think people sort of
630
00:24:29.930 --> 00:24:33.289
skirt around. So when Olivia was born... I think it
631
00:24:33.490 --> 00:24:37.710
was about 10 weeks in. Gemma was with her at
632
00:24:37.769 --> 00:24:40.059
her mum's house and she had a fit and her
633
00:24:40.099 --> 00:24:42.619
lips went blue and she went limp and everything. She's
634
00:24:42.660 --> 00:24:47.019
obviously terrifying. And Gemma rang an ambulance and they came
635
00:24:47.240 --> 00:24:50.019
and they did her blood sugar, give her some adrenaline.
636
00:24:50.039 --> 00:24:53.259
So it was like Pulp Fiction. It was literally adrenaline.
637
00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:57.039
And her blood sugar was like 0.7 or something, which
638
00:24:57.059 --> 00:25:01.069
is terrible. ridiculously low what should it be it should
639
00:25:01.130 --> 00:25:04.130
be like three right three to four.
640
00:25:03.930 --> 00:25:06.059
Because i'll be honest when you said 0.7 both me
641
00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:08.970
and rob were thinking i've got literally nothing to compare
642
00:25:09.039 --> 00:25:11.880
this to i don't know what the scale is scott.
643
00:25:11.900 --> 00:25:14.740
Yeah but it's amazing how like you are now like
644
00:25:14.779 --> 00:25:18.819
a blood sugar level expert because of what your daughter.
645
00:25:18.140 --> 00:25:21.660
Went through yeah not 0.7 bloody years ago i'd be
646
00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:25.460
like oh bloody nightmare mate 0.7 frantically googling what it
647
00:25:25.500 --> 00:25:27.440
should or shouldn't be Yeah.
648
00:25:27.480 --> 00:25:30.259
I'm glad you weren't the doctors. You'd have been like, yeah, 0.7, normal.
649
00:25:30.500 --> 00:25:31.299
I'll see you next week.
650
00:25:31.660 --> 00:25:34.869
It's better than 0.6. That's what I've always said. You
651
00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:37.289
don't want to hit one. That's when it gets problematic.
652
00:25:37.309 --> 00:25:38.910
Do you want it too high? Is that too high?
653
00:25:38.930 --> 00:25:39.849
Can it go too high?
654
00:25:39.990 --> 00:25:42.750
Well, the weird thing was she'd been sleeping really well.
655
00:25:43.009 --> 00:25:45.250
So everyone was like, oh, you've got an amazing baby there.
656
00:25:45.329 --> 00:25:48.349
She sleeps through the night. And we're like, yeah, she's
657
00:25:48.390 --> 00:25:51.789
got no sugar in her brain, mate. That's what we're like. Oh, no.
658
00:25:52.009 --> 00:25:54.430
So the picture starts to come in and you're like, right.
659
00:25:54.470 --> 00:25:57.880
So they took her to hospital and they basically put
660
00:25:57.920 --> 00:26:00.339
us on a ward and no one really knew what
661
00:26:00.380 --> 00:26:02.289
was going on. So we were sort of sat there
662
00:26:02.309 --> 00:26:04.150
just going, I don't know what this is. Both of
663
00:26:04.210 --> 00:26:07.250
us just really confused, sort of sitting there. But she'd
664
00:26:07.289 --> 00:26:09.039
got a bit better. Were you scared at this point?
665
00:26:09.190 --> 00:26:11.099
We were shitting ourselves, yeah. I was working in the
666
00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:13.160
day job, so I came home. Gemma was in hospital.
667
00:26:13.380 --> 00:26:16.500
But it's like, it's not fear as much. It's like confusion,
668
00:26:16.519 --> 00:26:18.839
because you're like, you've had your baby, and you know
669
00:26:18.859 --> 00:26:21.660
what it's like. Everyone's round, they're giving you presents, we've
670
00:26:21.680 --> 00:26:23.839
got all the bedroom done, and they're all like, this
671
00:26:23.900 --> 00:26:26.089
is an amazing moment, and then this sort of bomb
672
00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:27.269
goes off, and you're like.
673
00:26:27.289 --> 00:26:28.990
And you didn't realise you meant to give your baby
674
00:26:29.009 --> 00:26:30.349
a crunchy every day, did you?
675
00:26:30.410 --> 00:26:32.910
Well, if I'd have known, I'd have had a selection
676
00:26:32.950 --> 00:26:34.930
box all year round, just sort of.
677
00:26:35.289 --> 00:26:37.809
I'd have been whisking up crunchies, rubbing them in the gums.
678
00:26:39.559 --> 00:26:41.220
And how old was she at this point in the score?
679
00:26:41.420 --> 00:26:43.279
At 10 weeks. Fuck, mate. 10 weeks.
680
00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:46.940
And then, obviously, the paramedics came and gave her the insulin.
681
00:26:47.019 --> 00:26:49.140
And then she was stable and fine. But you was
682
00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:50.849
at the hospital for checks. Yeah, so we went into
683
00:26:50.869 --> 00:26:51.440
the hospital.
684
00:26:51.609 --> 00:26:54.769
And then they sort of kept us in overnight and
685
00:26:55.049 --> 00:26:58.450
sent her back home. They said, oh, it's just temporary hypoglycemia.
686
00:26:58.650 --> 00:27:01.769
this happens with children as their bodies grow, that it's
687
00:27:01.809 --> 00:27:04.210
just that their bodies adjust in and it's just something
688
00:27:04.230 --> 00:27:07.259
we see it quite often. And so we were like, okay, right. Well,
689
00:27:07.460 --> 00:27:10.299
we've shit ourselves, but let's just go home. So we
690
00:27:10.339 --> 00:27:14.130
went home and about three, four days later, it happened again.
691
00:27:14.690 --> 00:27:15.089
Right.
692
00:27:15.410 --> 00:27:17.029
So I remember I was at work and it was
693
00:27:17.069 --> 00:27:19.269
at this moment where you were like, you know, sometimes
694
00:27:19.470 --> 00:27:21.509
there's a weird thing with parents. And I think even
695
00:27:21.529 --> 00:27:24.309
with other people is you, you know, something's wrong, but
696
00:27:24.349 --> 00:27:25.670
you don't want to go to hospital because you don't
697
00:27:25.690 --> 00:27:27.670
want to have it confirmed. Do you get what I mean?
698
00:27:27.710 --> 00:27:28.009
Yeah.
699
00:27:28.069 --> 00:27:30.650
You'd rather live in the denial of it than the reality.
700
00:27:31.029 --> 00:27:34.390
It's like when you're Googling for the illness and basically
701
00:27:34.410 --> 00:27:36.390
you just find the one that's the good news and
702
00:27:36.410 --> 00:27:37.569
then you go, that's the right one.
703
00:27:37.809 --> 00:27:39.450
Yeah, that's the right one. I only know all the
704
00:27:39.529 --> 00:27:40.329
others that tell me.
705
00:27:40.369 --> 00:27:42.640
Yeah, that lump might be muscle definition, actually. Yeah.
706
00:27:42.680 --> 00:27:45.819
Probably. Been that at the gym a lot. Yeah, you're
707
00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:48.339
praying that it's a knot in your sweater. That's what
708
00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:52.279
it is. Just a knot in my sweater. That's all
709
00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:53.950
that is. So they took us into hospital and they
710
00:27:53.970 --> 00:27:55.529
stuck us on this ward, sent us home. And then
711
00:27:55.549 --> 00:27:57.470
it happened again. And me and Gemma were like, right,
712
00:27:57.589 --> 00:27:59.970
we took her in this time. And basically they said,
713
00:28:00.269 --> 00:28:02.450
there's something really wrong here. So they put us on
714
00:28:02.490 --> 00:28:05.579
the ward and they put an NG tube down her throat.
715
00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:08.400
So there's this thing where they put like a tube in.
716
00:28:08.460 --> 00:28:09.740
Have you seen it? When it goes up through the
717
00:28:09.799 --> 00:28:11.380
nose and into that.
718
00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:13.900
And so then is she conscious at this point? So yeah,
719
00:28:13.920 --> 00:28:14.599
she's conscious.
720
00:28:14.619 --> 00:28:17.230
They did. So they did a load of tests on her.
721
00:28:17.250 --> 00:28:19.089
So I remember him taking her away to do this
722
00:28:19.230 --> 00:28:21.109
spinal test. And I was like, I don't know what
723
00:28:21.130 --> 00:28:24.809
they're doing. This is just awful. This is awful, awful.
724
00:28:25.349 --> 00:28:26.970
And they still didn't know what it was. So their
725
00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:29.700
idea to keep her blood sugar up was to basically
726
00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:32.680
force feed her. So Gemma was about to breastfeed, but
727
00:28:32.700 --> 00:28:35.079
she never got a chance with Olivia because they'd put
728
00:28:35.099 --> 00:28:37.869
this NG tube in and were just feeding her high
729
00:28:38.210 --> 00:28:42.049
calorific feed to try and keep her sugar up. And
730
00:28:42.089 --> 00:28:45.930
what would happen is they'd feed her till she puked, basically. Oh,
731
00:28:45.970 --> 00:28:48.039
my God. It was awful. And then they kept testing
732
00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:50.440
her sugar. They kept pricking her heel. So the poor
733
00:28:50.500 --> 00:28:54.279
kid was being force-fed and having her heel stabbed. Jesus, what?
734
00:28:54.380 --> 00:28:56.609
It was like some sort of evil spa weekend.
735
00:28:56.630 --> 00:28:57.549
Do you know what I mean?
736
00:28:57.569 --> 00:29:00.970
It was like... Sort of bizarre purging, like being overfed
737
00:29:01.009 --> 00:29:03.049
and having your heel pricked. How often were they pricking
738
00:29:03.089 --> 00:29:05.130
her heel then? I think it was like every hour
739
00:29:05.390 --> 00:29:08.119
at one point. So she had little holes in her heel.
740
00:29:08.450 --> 00:29:11.160
So then they said, we don't really know what it is.
741
00:29:11.220 --> 00:29:12.779
So they would keep feeding it. We were in there
742
00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:16.799
for like a week, two weeks. This was August 2020. Yeah.
743
00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:18.940
While they were trying to establish and do tests.
744
00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:24.160
So this was August 2020? 2010. 2010. 2010. Oh, sorry. Sorry, yeah, 2010.
745
00:29:24.160 --> 00:29:27.349
So it's your eldest. Yeah, yeah, so 2010. And then
746
00:29:27.369 --> 00:29:28.829
they were like, we don't really know what it is.
747
00:29:29.009 --> 00:29:31.390
And so they kept us in. And then they brought
748
00:29:31.569 --> 00:29:34.549
in like a specialist. Because I think what happened was,
749
00:29:34.690 --> 00:29:37.589
that was it. I'm not very confrontational at all. And
750
00:29:37.609 --> 00:29:39.650
you sort of trust in the doctors that are going
751
00:29:39.670 --> 00:29:41.180
to do it. but there was a point where i
752
00:29:41.220 --> 00:29:44.279
was like they tried sending us home again with a
753
00:29:44.319 --> 00:29:46.880
machine to feed us we had this like machine set
754
00:29:46.940 --> 00:29:49.319
up in a bedroom that was feeding her and all
755
00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:51.430
this sort of stuff And they were sort of letting
756
00:29:51.450 --> 00:29:52.970
us deal with it. And I remember going into the
757
00:29:53.009 --> 00:29:56.170
doctor and I even put on a really shit cheap
758
00:29:56.250 --> 00:30:00.410
suit from Burton's menswear to be like, this will make
759
00:30:00.450 --> 00:30:01.049
the difference.
760
00:30:01.069 --> 00:30:03.450
They'll treat me differently if I wear a suit.
761
00:30:03.569 --> 00:30:05.789
You know what I mean? I remember that's come through
762
00:30:05.809 --> 00:30:07.630
from my dad that if you want anything doing.
763
00:30:07.670 --> 00:30:08.359
Wear a tie.
764
00:30:08.380 --> 00:30:12.259
Do you know what I mean? Going into Curry's trying
765
00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:14.079
to get a discount because he's got a tie on.
766
00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:17.160
Wearing the tie, mate.
767
00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:19.839
So I went in there and I said, look, this
768
00:30:19.900 --> 00:30:22.119
needs to, you know, we can't be sent home again.
769
00:30:22.140 --> 00:30:24.420
I don't know what you're doing, but I just feel like,
770
00:30:24.460 --> 00:30:26.400
you know, you're putting my daughter's life at risk here
771
00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:29.000
with low blood sugar. There could be all sorts of
772
00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:31.619
complications we don't even know about that have already happened
773
00:30:32.079 --> 00:30:34.440
because she keeps trying to send us home. And they
774
00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:37.119
brought in this specialist woman who was a dietician. And
775
00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:39.069
she said, I think I know what this is. This
776
00:30:39.119 --> 00:30:43.529
is like a rare genetic disorder called hyperinsulinism. And we
777
00:30:43.589 --> 00:30:46.309
never heard of this, but it's basically the opposite of diabetes.
778
00:30:47.650 --> 00:30:51.089
So with diabetes, obviously the sugars just rocket and they
779
00:30:51.109 --> 00:30:55.299
have to have insulin. What Olivia had was sugars would plummet.
780
00:30:55.579 --> 00:30:58.480
So she had too much insulin. So her pancreas was
781
00:30:58.500 --> 00:31:01.509
just pumping insulin constantly into her body.
782
00:31:01.630 --> 00:31:02.089
Right.
783
00:31:02.250 --> 00:31:04.809
So no matter what they did with the feeding, because
784
00:31:04.829 --> 00:31:06.369
it was so funny when the expert came in, they
785
00:31:06.390 --> 00:31:08.009
were like, none of this will make any difference.
786
00:31:08.430 --> 00:31:09.049
Oh, really?
787
00:31:09.069 --> 00:31:11.619
Yeah. We were like, oh my God. Because they thought
788
00:31:11.670 --> 00:31:13.920
it was transient and it might change. Because we were
789
00:31:13.940 --> 00:31:16.539
looking at these figures. Every time a sugar went to two,
790
00:31:16.579 --> 00:31:18.900
we were like, oh yes, this is how obsessed we
791
00:31:18.940 --> 00:31:22.039
got with it. It was like Edinburgh reviews. Do you
792
00:31:22.059 --> 00:31:22.440
know what I mean?
793
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:22.740
Yeah.
794
00:31:23.809 --> 00:31:26.430
I'm reading and going, she's got a 2.3. Come on.
795
00:31:26.509 --> 00:31:30.900
We've got the Guardian in on Wednesday. We're going for
796
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:31.359
a four.
797
00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:33.259
And you've been doing that for like two, three weeks
798
00:31:33.299 --> 00:31:39.279
and it was pointless. And what's it called?
799
00:31:39.380 --> 00:31:43.460
Hyperinsulinism, CHI it is. And then they said, oh, it's
800
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:45.980
one in like 300,000, this is.
801
00:31:46.279 --> 00:31:47.400
This is really rare.
802
00:31:47.460 --> 00:31:50.200
Fucking hell. There's a spike in Nottingham. I don't know
803
00:31:50.240 --> 00:31:52.119
why this is. There seems to be a lot of
804
00:31:52.180 --> 00:31:55.329
children in our area who've got it. Have you been
805
00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:59.069
shagging around, Scott? I'd love to say so. I mean, Josh,
806
00:31:59.130 --> 00:32:00.849
you have asked me that question and you're looking at
807
00:32:00.910 --> 00:32:03.009
a man in a shed. So I would say, I
808
00:32:03.450 --> 00:32:06.369
would hazard a guess that probably not. It might be Gemma.
809
00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:11.079
it's not on my side of the genes that's for
810
00:32:11.099 --> 00:32:12.859
sure but so they said oh yeah it's a rare
811
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:15.619
genetic disorder and so basically they brought this expert in
812
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:17.759
and what happened was i didn't i didn't know this
813
00:32:17.880 --> 00:32:20.500
i've been carrying it all my life oh really this
814
00:32:20.539 --> 00:32:24.259
gene yeah so really and what should normally happen.
815
00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:26.900
So suddenly my joke's looking a bit more a bit
816
00:32:26.920 --> 00:32:28.900
more accurate scott if this came from.
817
00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:31.319
Well it's gone through the generations so they were like
818
00:32:31.700 --> 00:32:34.460
over the years they were saying like it might be
819
00:32:34.500 --> 00:32:36.329
like you know cot death It was a bit like
820
00:32:36.549 --> 00:32:40.710
when children wouldn't wake up. Looking back through my family history,
821
00:32:40.990 --> 00:32:43.170
there may have been instances of that that were related
822
00:32:43.349 --> 00:32:45.970
not to cot death, but to low blood sugar. Right.
823
00:32:46.029 --> 00:32:47.089
And it just got written off as cot death.
824
00:32:47.109 --> 00:32:48.619
And it got written off. And they said, oh, what
825
00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:52.400
should normally happen is your gene should override Gemma's genes.
826
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:56.079
It should be dominant. And it should have, sorry, what
827
00:32:56.099 --> 00:32:58.920
should happen? It should have been cancelled out for whatever
828
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:01.630
reason in the genetics. It should be just still dormant.
829
00:33:01.650 --> 00:33:03.970
He should have been dormant, and that's it. But for
830
00:33:04.029 --> 00:33:07.230
some reason, Gemma's genes didn't silence it, and it became
831
00:33:07.309 --> 00:33:08.369
prevalent in Olivia.
832
00:33:08.390 --> 00:33:09.390
Right.
833
00:33:09.430 --> 00:33:11.490
So it's Gemma's fault, is that what you're saying? I
834
00:33:11.549 --> 00:33:12.059
think it is.
835
00:33:12.089 --> 00:33:17.470
LAUGHTER You know what I mean?
836
00:33:17.619 --> 00:33:20.079
I don't take the bin out once, and she gives
837
00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:26.029
me a child with low blood sugar. LAUGHTER It's brutal,
838
00:33:26.049 --> 00:33:27.509
isn't it? Do you know what I mean? Just because
839
00:33:27.549 --> 00:33:28.710
I can't stack a dishwasher.
840
00:33:29.109 --> 00:33:31.410
Seriously, did you feel like any guilt, even though you
841
00:33:31.430 --> 00:33:33.890
had no control over it? But if you've been told that,
842
00:33:34.309 --> 00:33:35.730
I'd feel like, oh, it's my fault.
843
00:33:35.789 --> 00:33:38.099
Honestly, there was moments where I was just like... Which
844
00:33:38.130 --> 00:33:40.319
is ridiculous, because you can't help it. It's the genes
845
00:33:40.390 --> 00:33:42.200
of your genes. Well, yeah, they gave us gene therapy.
846
00:33:42.579 --> 00:33:44.079
As part of the thing, we had this gene therapy,
847
00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:46.079
and they were like... Because we were like, this affects
848
00:33:46.140 --> 00:33:48.960
everything going forward. More children, do you know what I mean?
849
00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:50.900
I had to ring my brother and say, you need
850
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:53.440
to go for a blood test, mate. oh god oh
851
00:33:53.460 --> 00:33:55.579
my god even his girlfriend were considering like you know
852
00:33:55.599 --> 00:33:57.640
having family well you need to know what this is
853
00:33:57.660 --> 00:33:59.980
because this is a nightmare you could be opening yourself
854
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:00.519
up to this.
855
00:34:00.500 --> 00:34:04.519
Is a bloody nightmare that's the biggest understatement i'm having
856
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:07.420
a bloody nightmare my child's been in hospital for two
857
00:34:07.460 --> 00:34:10.199
weeks so when you're finding this how long have you
858
00:34:10.219 --> 00:34:11.059
been in the hospital we.
859
00:34:10.980 --> 00:34:13.280
Was in the hospital for three weeks at that point
860
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:15.559
right 24 hours a day are you in there yeah
861
00:34:15.579 --> 00:34:17.639
so what happened was we were trying to feed and
862
00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:19.570
so so they brought in this expert and she He
863
00:34:19.610 --> 00:34:23.090
was like, this is genetic, this. So they basically brought
864
00:34:23.190 --> 00:34:27.050
in someone, contacted Manchester Children's Hospital. I didn't know this
865
00:34:27.110 --> 00:34:31.610
at all. It's a specialist center in CHI. So they
866
00:34:31.659 --> 00:34:34.260
put money into rare genetic disorders and this was one
867
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:36.599
of them. And we didn't realize what we were getting
868
00:34:36.619 --> 00:34:39.260
into because it's one of the highest risk ones. Like
869
00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:43.039
literally kids can drop dead. They can have brain damage.
870
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:46.440
They can be blind. So how come Manchester have done that?
871
00:34:46.659 --> 00:34:49.070
I think it was a government initiative when they were like,
872
00:34:49.110 --> 00:34:52.309
this is becoming a, like there was lots of children
873
00:34:52.409 --> 00:34:56.679
presenting with this, like from mid nineties to mid two thousands. And, and,
874
00:34:57.070 --> 00:34:58.949
No one knew what it was. So they brought in
875
00:34:58.989 --> 00:35:02.190
this expert and she was like, yeah, it's congenital. And
876
00:35:02.510 --> 00:35:04.159
what we need to do is we need to get
877
00:35:04.179 --> 00:35:07.380
Olivia scanned to find out. So there was two types.
878
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:09.619
And by this time, by the way, we'd been in
879
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:14.199
QMC for about six, seven weeks on this holding pattern,
880
00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:18.150
just feeding, pricking a heel, feeding, pricking her heel and
881
00:35:18.170 --> 00:35:20.429
we were given we're having to give her medication because
882
00:35:20.449 --> 00:35:23.409
she was getting reflux the poor kid so she was
883
00:35:23.449 --> 00:35:25.409
getting all this reflux she's like a dad like I
884
00:35:25.449 --> 00:35:28.360
can't survive without her any now so that's hereditary.
885
00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:29.619
And are you picking her up at this point or
886
00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:31.260
is she just in the bed the whole time in
887
00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:31.639
the car.
888
00:35:31.539 --> 00:35:33.440
She's in the bed all the time and they were
889
00:35:33.460 --> 00:35:35.590
telling us they were like we'll look after her you
890
00:35:35.650 --> 00:35:37.690
and Gemma just get on with what you're doing and
891
00:35:37.710 --> 00:35:39.050
me and Gemma looked at each other and were like
892
00:35:39.130 --> 00:35:41.989
there's no way we're leaving this hospital one of us
893
00:35:42.050 --> 00:35:44.409
is going to be here all the time so the
894
00:35:44.469 --> 00:35:47.929
whole day was basically i'd go to work jemma would
895
00:35:48.030 --> 00:35:50.769
sit by her bed holding her hand through the the
896
00:35:50.809 --> 00:35:53.510
bars and we'd put like a mobile above a cot
897
00:35:53.570 --> 00:35:56.280
and stuff and then i would come back in after
898
00:35:56.320 --> 00:35:59.219
a full day's work and grab a ready meal we'd
899
00:35:59.340 --> 00:36:01.980
swap and then i'd sit on the zed bed watch
900
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:05.420
i'm a celebrity have a little ready meal and then
901
00:36:05.460 --> 00:36:07.139
hold their hand for the car. And we slept there
902
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:11.039
like for seven weeks, eight weeks in the hospital. Fuck.
903
00:36:11.059 --> 00:36:13.940
Listening to like the beeps and the machines that was
904
00:36:13.980 --> 00:36:15.619
like sending you to sleep on a night. Cause they
905
00:36:15.659 --> 00:36:18.320
were like, go home. And I don't think people get,
906
00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:20.650
it was our first kid. Yeah. And I'm like, I'm
907
00:36:20.670 --> 00:36:22.929
not going. If it was your second, fuck it. Yeah.
908
00:36:23.150 --> 00:36:23.489
Yeah.
909
00:36:25.340 --> 00:36:27.219
Third, ring me in two mums. If it was a
910
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:29.880
second mate, I'd have left him in the reception at
911
00:36:29.940 --> 00:36:31.340
A & E. I'd have gone. I wouldn't even have
912
00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:34.340
stopped the car. But it's like that moment where you
913
00:36:34.389 --> 00:36:36.809
go like, you know, I'm going to stay with this kid.
914
00:36:37.110 --> 00:36:39.150
And so we sort of, we slept there pretty much.
915
00:36:39.210 --> 00:36:41.789
We lived in the hospital and it got to the
916
00:36:41.829 --> 00:36:44.530
point where we were doing the heel pricks and all that.
917
00:36:44.849 --> 00:36:45.929
Fucking hell.
918
00:36:45.949 --> 00:36:48.130
We had a machine that we were doing, and I
919
00:36:48.179 --> 00:36:50.480
was writing him in a book, and then we were
920
00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:53.280
giving her a reflux meds and all this lot. It
921
00:36:53.340 --> 00:36:59.239
was really surreal that we actually became institutionalized. And I
922
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:02.809
remember arriving after work, and from the road in Nottingham,
923
00:37:02.829 --> 00:37:04.949
you can see QMC, and you can see the kids'
924
00:37:05.030 --> 00:37:08.489
children's ward. And Gemma's mum had bought her, you know,
925
00:37:08.510 --> 00:37:10.989
one of those boo-boo seats they can sit up in, babies.
926
00:37:11.010 --> 00:37:11.269
Yeah.
927
00:37:11.449 --> 00:37:15.679
You know, those molded seats, spongy seats. And I remember
928
00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:17.840
I knew because I could see her in the window.
929
00:37:18.280 --> 00:37:20.099
So it was like a weird advent calendar. So as
930
00:37:20.139 --> 00:37:22.099
I came into the car park, she was in the
931
00:37:22.139 --> 00:37:24.969
window waiting for me. Just sat there like that. Just
932
00:37:25.030 --> 00:37:28.210
looking out the window in a boo-boo seat. Just like
933
00:37:28.250 --> 00:37:30.210
a little Yoda. Just our little budda.
934
00:37:30.949 --> 00:37:32.610
And yeah, we.
935
00:37:32.510 --> 00:37:35.690
Did, we did seven. And one day I remember they said,
936
00:37:35.710 --> 00:37:37.320
you've got to get out of the hospital. And me
937
00:37:37.340 --> 00:37:39.719
and Gemma walked to a Nando's, which was like on
938
00:37:39.739 --> 00:37:42.119
a retail park. It was the saddest thing ever. And
939
00:37:42.139 --> 00:37:44.340
walked to this Nando's and we sort of sat there
940
00:37:44.619 --> 00:37:46.980
and eating chicken and we couldn't, we had to go out.
941
00:37:47.059 --> 00:37:49.679
We were like, nah, this is not normal. Can't just
942
00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:51.530
sit here. What are we going to talk about? Do
943
00:37:51.550 --> 00:37:54.190
you know what I mean? Oh, yeah. What should we do?
944
00:37:54.210 --> 00:37:56.769
You know what I mean? You can't. So in the end,
945
00:37:56.849 --> 00:37:58.389
they said, right, you're going to have to go for
946
00:37:58.409 --> 00:38:01.230
this scan because there's two types. And I'll try and
947
00:38:01.429 --> 00:38:03.809
not bore you with this. There's like two versions of
948
00:38:03.829 --> 00:38:07.480
this disease. It's in the pancreas, but one which is diffuse,
949
00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:11.880
which means the whole pancreas is defective. Right. So the
950
00:38:11.940 --> 00:38:15.340
whole pancreas is pumping out insulin. That one is incurable.
951
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:16.099
Right.
952
00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:19.320
So what would that mean? That would mean a lifetime
953
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:24.159
of medication for your kid. Or it would mean that
954
00:38:24.420 --> 00:38:26.019
she'd have to have a pancreatomy. So we'd have to
955
00:38:26.059 --> 00:38:27.980
have it removed and she'd be diabetic for the rest
956
00:38:28.019 --> 00:38:31.400
of her life. That one is pretty much like the
957
00:38:31.460 --> 00:38:34.420
worst case scenario. The other one is focal, which means
958
00:38:34.460 --> 00:38:37.559
it's like a little lesion in the pancreas. like a
959
00:38:37.599 --> 00:38:41.429
little tumor, basically. And they said, depending on where that is,
960
00:38:41.949 --> 00:38:45.449
they can operate, right? Depending on where it is. And, oh,
961
00:38:45.469 --> 00:38:47.809
I've just remembered something I remember telling you as well
962
00:38:47.849 --> 00:38:51.429
is when we were about to go to Manchester, they
963
00:38:51.449 --> 00:38:53.650
were having to give her this medication because it was
964
00:38:53.690 --> 00:38:56.750
affecting her kidney function, these drugs she was on. And
965
00:38:56.809 --> 00:38:58.679
I remember the doctor sat us down one day and
966
00:38:58.719 --> 00:38:59.840
he says, oh, we're going to have to give you
967
00:38:59.860 --> 00:39:02.840
this extra medication because it's affecting the kidney function. And
968
00:39:02.860 --> 00:39:04.539
he was like, there is a few side effects. And
969
00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:06.159
I remember we sat in this office. I was like,
970
00:39:06.219 --> 00:39:07.579
oh God, what's it going to be? I was like,
971
00:39:07.619 --> 00:39:09.280
you know, is it going to affect her heart? He says,
972
00:39:09.300 --> 00:39:11.780
the thing is she will put on more weight. We
973
00:39:11.800 --> 00:39:14.050
were like, okay, that's fine. He says she will be
974
00:39:14.090 --> 00:39:16.250
a bit dehydrated. We're like, fine. And he went, yeah,
975
00:39:16.429 --> 00:39:21.210
and she's going to get hairy. When a doctor says
976
00:39:21.250 --> 00:39:23.269
your kid's going to get hairy and she was like
977
00:39:23.309 --> 00:39:29.530
a little Ewok, mate. It was like a little fur baby.
978
00:39:29.570 --> 00:39:34.570
I didn't know where the front was. Like having a
979
00:39:34.630 --> 00:39:38.730
coconut in her mouth. Where's her mouth gone? And it
980
00:39:38.750 --> 00:39:41.349
went from her hair all the way into her eyebrows.
981
00:39:41.409 --> 00:39:42.670
Like it was just everywhere.
982
00:39:42.869 --> 00:39:44.989
She had hair on her cheeks and everything.
983
00:39:45.010 --> 00:39:47.909
Really? Yeah, I remember because we couldn't go anywhere. Sorry
984
00:39:47.929 --> 00:39:48.880
to jump back and forth.
985
00:39:48.909 --> 00:39:50.340
You can't shave a baby, can you?
986
00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:55.840
You can't shave a baby, not in public. So basically
987
00:39:55.940 --> 00:39:57.699
all our day, because we couldn't go out either. We
988
00:39:57.719 --> 00:39:59.579
were just in this hospital and she had one of
989
00:39:59.619 --> 00:40:01.579
those little things she could sit in, you know, those
990
00:40:01.699 --> 00:40:04.340
like bumble things you pull your kid around in. And
991
00:40:04.389 --> 00:40:06.590
all I did was just pull around a ward. This
992
00:40:06.619 --> 00:40:10.389
was my life. Seven weeks dragging a hairy baby around
993
00:40:10.489 --> 00:40:13.469
a ward. It was amazing. You don't expect the doctors
994
00:40:13.489 --> 00:40:16.130
to say hairy. You don't. And when they say hairy,
995
00:40:16.250 --> 00:40:17.110
it was just like, wow.
996
00:40:17.489 --> 00:40:19.710
She won best in show at Crufts, though, that year, though,
997
00:40:19.730 --> 00:40:20.130
didn't she?
998
00:40:20.389 --> 00:40:21.190
Bitly groomed.
999
00:40:21.210 --> 00:40:23.860
Also, as well, like, the first question is how hairy?
1000
00:40:23.909 --> 00:40:27.199
Are we going to have to plait it? Or is
1001
00:40:27.260 --> 00:40:30.199
it just a covering? Also, I think you've got those
1002
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:34.260
in the wrong order. I think the priority-wise, dehydrated isn't
1003
00:40:34.300 --> 00:40:34.840
the headline.
1004
00:40:35.059 --> 00:40:36.559
Do you know what I mean? You've got to lead
1005
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:39.389
with Harry. You know, where are we talking on the scale?
1006
00:40:39.449 --> 00:40:41.710
I mean, are we going from me at 14 with
1007
00:40:41.750 --> 00:40:43.750
a little top lip or are we going Bill Oddie?
1008
00:40:44.050 --> 00:40:47.480
Where are we? Where are we on the hair scale?
1009
00:40:48.119 --> 00:40:49.579
So they said, right, you're going to have to go
1010
00:40:49.619 --> 00:40:51.840
for this scalp. Because we're in this holding pattern. We
1011
00:40:51.860 --> 00:40:54.599
were putting pressure on, just to recap. We were putting
1012
00:40:54.619 --> 00:40:56.840
pressure on. We were getting pissed off. Because it's not
1013
00:40:56.900 --> 00:40:59.679
doing anything. It's just keeping it. We're pricking this kid's
1014
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:02.710
heel every single day. We're not sleeping. We were both
1015
00:41:02.829 --> 00:41:06.309
falling apart. Gemma drove the car into a wall. I
1016
00:41:06.349 --> 00:41:07.690
remembered that.
1017
00:41:07.710 --> 00:41:08.250
By accident?
1018
00:41:08.309 --> 00:41:11.769
Yeah, yeah. Oh, good. Because we were both just a shell.
1019
00:41:11.789 --> 00:41:14.360
We both lost loads of weight. I tell you, that's
1020
00:41:14.460 --> 00:41:17.460
one good thing. Childhood illness. God, you look good by
1021
00:41:17.480 --> 00:41:23.139
the end, mate. I have my cheekbones back. I looked beautiful.
1022
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:26.420
I was a shell of a man and broken, but
1023
00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:28.079
I was a 32 waist.
1024
00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:31.619
Who's that fit guy with the hairy child walking past
1025
00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:32.320
me in the park?
1026
00:41:33.289 --> 00:41:35.449
It was a big guy with the dark eyes, the
1027
00:41:35.489 --> 00:41:40.030
hairy child and the thousand yard stare. He was gorgeous.
1028
00:41:41.369 --> 00:41:43.889
And the other thing as well is because, yeah, we
1029
00:41:43.909 --> 00:41:45.760
were like, this is something's got to be done here.
1030
00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:48.340
So we put pressure on him and they contacted Manchester
1031
00:41:48.380 --> 00:41:50.239
and Manchester was like, right, we've got a bed for
1032
00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:54.179
you at Manchester Children's Hospital. We're going to get you scanned.
1033
00:41:54.199 --> 00:41:56.920
We're going to find out what, if this is diffused
1034
00:41:57.059 --> 00:42:01.190
or focal. And then was the next big moment when
1035
00:42:01.590 --> 00:42:06.139
the scan is in Berlin. What? Yeah. Who's doing it?
1036
00:42:06.179 --> 00:42:10.280
David Bowie? What's going on there? It's just an eccentric
1037
00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:14.429
guy in a shed called Klaus. They said, we're going
1038
00:42:14.449 --> 00:42:16.630
to do this scan in Berlin. There's only two machines
1039
00:42:16.690 --> 00:42:21.650
in the world, right? Blimey. And they said, Berlin or Philadelphia.
1040
00:42:21.909 --> 00:42:25.260
And I was like, Philadelphia would be great. Yeah. I
1041
00:42:26.059 --> 00:42:29.659
love Rocky. And they were like, this is the NHS, mate.
1042
00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:32.880
You're going Berlin. Berlin. I mean, I've been to Berlin.
1043
00:42:32.900 --> 00:42:34.940
I had a fantastic time, Scott, but I imagine we
1044
00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:36.800
have very different experiences.
1045
00:42:36.840 --> 00:42:39.960
Well, here's the really weird thing, though, is that Gemma's
1046
00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:43.550
fluent in German. She's a language teacher. so I felt
1047
00:42:43.590 --> 00:42:45.750
we had an in in Berlin yeah that's good we
1048
00:42:45.769 --> 00:42:48.449
were treated differently because Gemma just went in just like
1049
00:42:48.570 --> 00:42:50.969
spoke to him right yeah yeah chatted and I was
1050
00:42:51.030 --> 00:42:53.119
confused I look German but I.
1051
00:42:53.099 --> 00:42:55.219
Can't oh god you must have felt so out of
1052
00:42:55.239 --> 00:42:55.719
the loop so now.
1053
00:42:55.659 --> 00:42:58.219
I'm panicking about my daughter and there's a language barrier
1054
00:42:58.360 --> 00:42:58.860
nice one.
1055
00:43:01.940 --> 00:43:03.980
Plus, it was before the fall of the wall, wasn't it?
1056
00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:06.480
So we actually had to get into East Germany just to.
1057
00:43:06.500 --> 00:43:09.460
We had to get David Hasselhoff to smuggle this hairy
1058
00:43:09.500 --> 00:43:10.739
baby in his leather jacket.
1059
00:43:11.449 --> 00:43:14.429
How quickly, after they told you Berlin, did you Google
1060
00:43:14.469 --> 00:43:16.469
the German word for focal and diffuse?
1061
00:43:17.030 --> 00:43:19.750
Well, the really weird thing was, is they said to us, right,
1062
00:43:19.769 --> 00:43:22.429
we're going to fly you out. It's on a private jet. Oh.
1063
00:43:24.159 --> 00:43:26.659
This is the thing that blew my mind. On a
1064
00:43:26.920 --> 00:43:31.039
little propeller jet. So we went to Manchester and I
1065
00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:33.599
didn't know this. In the airport, there's a separate bit
1066
00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:37.590
and it's like a private airport, Manchester airport. I've never
1067
00:43:37.630 --> 00:43:39.530
got a private jet, but I've heard that. It's like
1068
00:43:39.570 --> 00:43:41.889
a shakes fly from there. And as we pulled in,
1069
00:43:42.050 --> 00:43:45.329
on the tarmac was the WWE plane because there was
1070
00:43:45.429 --> 00:43:48.869
a big thing at the arena that weekend. So we're
1071
00:43:48.909 --> 00:43:52.699
sat in this lounge and Triple H just walks past. No.
1072
00:43:53.960 --> 00:43:56.400
Who's the hairy baby? Bring her along. Do you know
1073
00:43:56.420 --> 00:43:56.820
what I mean?
1074
00:43:56.840 --> 00:43:57.739
It was like.
1075
00:43:57.559 --> 00:43:59.699
Triple H walked past and everything. And I was like,
1076
00:43:59.739 --> 00:44:02.239
this is surreal. So we're sat there in this lounge,
1077
00:44:02.340 --> 00:44:04.610
this Sky Lounge. And at this point, are you still
1078
00:44:04.670 --> 00:44:05.369
really worried?
1079
00:44:05.389 --> 00:44:05.809
Of course, yeah.
1080
00:44:05.929 --> 00:44:07.010
Or are you reassured?
1081
00:44:07.190 --> 00:44:08.880
No, no, he's loving it. He's seen Triple H.
1082
00:44:08.869 --> 00:44:10.610
He's buzzing. No, no, no, but I mean... Is there
1083
00:44:10.630 --> 00:44:12.929
like a reassurance.
1084
00:44:12.030 --> 00:44:13.920
By this point that they're on top of it?
1085
00:44:13.929 --> 00:44:16.880
Well, what this was, was I think we were, in
1086
00:44:17.110 --> 00:44:19.139
August we went in, if I can get these dates right,
1087
00:44:19.639 --> 00:44:23.420
sort of October that was. So August, September, October, three
1088
00:44:23.460 --> 00:44:25.880
months down the line. And we were like, we knew,
1089
00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:28.380
me and Gemma knew this was the moment. When we
1090
00:44:28.420 --> 00:44:31.019
come back from Berlin, we were either, one of us
1091
00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:32.559
is going to give up our job to be a
1092
00:44:32.599 --> 00:44:35.469
full-time carer. Yeah. right oh my god so this is
1093
00:44:35.489 --> 00:44:37.289
like the moment where we're like when we come back
1094
00:44:37.349 --> 00:44:39.449
our lives are either going to continue or they're going
1095
00:44:39.469 --> 00:44:41.769
to change forever yeah and that is a weird moment
1096
00:44:41.789 --> 00:44:44.250
when you're sat there trying to enjoy champagne.
1097
00:44:44.769 --> 00:44:47.650
Getting a selfie with the rock but why was it
1098
00:44:47.670 --> 00:44:49.710
a private jet because of the equipment you needed to
1099
00:44:49.750 --> 00:44:51.449
transport her because she couldn't because you had.
1100
00:44:51.409 --> 00:44:53.429
To have a you had a doctor with you you
1101
00:44:53.449 --> 00:44:55.900
had the medical stuff you had the she was on
1102
00:44:56.000 --> 00:44:59.079
a drip she had the cannula in we had all
1103
00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:01.199
this stuff with us oh wow and is this on
1104
00:45:01.219 --> 00:45:02.500
the nhs.
1105
00:45:02.059 --> 00:45:04.400
This is on the nhs which is no wonder.
1106
00:45:04.179 --> 00:45:09.260
They're in fucking financial trouble i feel guilt about.
1107
00:45:09.050 --> 00:45:10.710
That mate every minute of the day.
1108
00:45:10.670 --> 00:45:13.750
Junior doctors aren't being paid enough and you're sipping champagne
1109
00:45:13.769 --> 00:45:16.909
with the fucking wwe.
1110
00:45:16.090 --> 00:45:17.889
The mad thing was as i looked out the window
1111
00:45:17.949 --> 00:45:20.400
i thought there's some pensioner down there who can't have
1112
00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:26.119
a hip because of me i'm The pilot handed us
1113
00:45:26.159 --> 00:45:28.510
like a platter that had been in there and it
1114
00:45:28.530 --> 00:45:32.849
was like fruit, croissants. So we were like, in one respect.
1115
00:45:32.869 --> 00:45:35.530
So basically we were sat there and it's a real
1116
00:45:35.570 --> 00:45:38.769
juxtaposition because I'm sat in a private jet eating a
1117
00:45:38.889 --> 00:45:41.329
croissant and then your kid's next to you on a
1118
00:45:41.349 --> 00:45:43.409
machine with a dog and you're going like, this is...
1119
00:45:44.050 --> 00:45:48.469
such a confusing thing and remember we got there and
1120
00:45:48.690 --> 00:45:51.550
um they said right you're going to this hospital and
1121
00:45:51.650 --> 00:45:53.610
it is the bit that i didn't i quite realize
1122
00:45:53.670 --> 00:45:56.409
is in germany the hospitals are it's a different game
1123
00:45:56.869 --> 00:45:59.889
it's far more strict in terms of like in the
1124
00:46:00.030 --> 00:46:03.550
uk families around bedsides they let like 50 people go
1125
00:46:03.570 --> 00:46:05.559
around your bed so you sat there you're having a
1126
00:46:05.599 --> 00:46:11.070
barbecue yeah you're hospital for a long time my mum
1127
00:46:11.130 --> 00:46:12.989
used to bring in those little boxes of red wine
1128
00:46:13.010 --> 00:46:15.289
oh really yeah we used to put them in you
1129
00:46:15.329 --> 00:46:17.090
know they were meant for medication and on a night
1130
00:46:17.150 --> 00:46:19.110
I'd be on the wine watching I'm a celeb you
1131
00:46:19.130 --> 00:46:22.309
know what I mean little sneaky wine in the disabled
1132
00:46:22.329 --> 00:46:24.719
toilet but yeah so they said to us right you
1133
00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:26.300
can come in they said to Gemma you can can
1134
00:46:26.320 --> 00:46:28.159
be in the hospital at first they didn't want any
1135
00:46:28.199 --> 00:46:30.139
of us in they were like you go you go
1136
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:32.840
to the hotel and we'll we'll look after and Gemma
1137
00:46:32.860 --> 00:46:35.699
sort of persuaded this nurse because she could speak German
1138
00:46:36.300 --> 00:46:39.269
and just sort of said, I can't leave. I can't leave.
1139
00:46:39.829 --> 00:46:42.150
And so they let Gemma stay. But then I had
1140
00:46:42.170 --> 00:46:46.159
to go. And here's the really weird thing, was they
1141
00:46:46.179 --> 00:46:48.599
put me up in something called the Ronald McDonald House.
1142
00:46:48.619 --> 00:46:54.650
Are you aware of this? Right. McDonald's.
1143
00:46:54.670 --> 00:46:58.550
So McDonald's... So McDonald's financed a kind of thing for parents.
1144
00:46:58.820 --> 00:47:00.840
It's a thing for parents whose children are ill.
1145
00:47:01.340 --> 00:47:02.619
And I never knew this existed.
1146
00:47:02.659 --> 00:47:08.480
Yeah, my sister... Wow. My nephew had leukemia and my sister...
1147
00:47:08.550 --> 00:47:10.780
got put up in one of them in Bristol. But
1148
00:47:10.820 --> 00:47:12.400
it wasn't called the Ronald McDonald House.
1149
00:47:13.059 --> 00:47:16.699
Yeah, I think it was the foundation. Because when they
1150
00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:18.280
said to us, I got there, they went, you were
1151
00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:20.380
staying in the Ronald McDonald House. I was like, you're
1152
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:23.719
having a laugh here, mate. A private jet, and now
1153
00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:28.190
I'm meeting Ronald McDonald. This is like Disneyland on a budget, this.
1154
00:47:28.269 --> 00:47:30.889
I love it. But this is the ironic thing. Considering
1155
00:47:30.909 --> 00:47:33.309
that my child had the opposite of diabetes, who would
1156
00:47:33.349 --> 00:47:39.070
have thought McDonald's would have stepped in? That's a weird twist.
1157
00:47:39.230 --> 00:47:41.130
So I stayed in this house. It was all bright
1158
00:47:41.170 --> 00:47:43.250
red and yellow, as you would expect. It was really
1159
00:47:43.289 --> 00:47:46.360
bizarre in this weird room. And then Gemma was in
1160
00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:48.139
the hospital and Gemma said to me, it was so
1161
00:47:48.199 --> 00:47:52.480
funny because Gemma at the time, she needed some painkillers,
1162
00:47:52.539 --> 00:47:55.500
did Olivia. I think she'd, you could tell that all
1163
00:47:55.519 --> 00:47:58.079
this heel pricking and stuff after a while, it was just,
1164
00:47:58.500 --> 00:48:00.849
she was anxious. And then she says, can she have
1165
00:48:00.889 --> 00:48:03.510
some painkiller? And I didn't realise in Germany, it all
1166
00:48:03.550 --> 00:48:05.190
goes up the bottom, doesn't it? It's all.
1167
00:48:05.650 --> 00:48:07.530
Yeah, it's all suppository.
1168
00:48:07.869 --> 00:48:10.269
They don't do all sort of oral medication. I thought
1169
00:48:10.300 --> 00:48:12.119
they'd just give you like a little string of Calpol.
1170
00:48:12.340 --> 00:48:13.880
And they were like, nope, that goes up the bum.
1171
00:48:14.219 --> 00:48:15.679
I think you went to the wrong bit of Berlin.
1172
00:48:15.860 --> 00:48:16.739
I mean.
1173
00:48:16.980 --> 00:48:18.519
Or the right bit, depending on what you're into.
1174
00:48:18.559 --> 00:48:20.750
I've never seen a leather hospital, but.
1175
00:48:24.380 --> 00:48:26.860
So then I remember going back there and we had
1176
00:48:26.920 --> 00:48:29.860
like one day where we were sort of just waiting.
1177
00:48:29.989 --> 00:48:32.909
And then they were trying to get us amongst all this.
1178
00:48:33.329 --> 00:48:35.289
They threw this one in and said, oh, your daughter
1179
00:48:35.409 --> 00:48:38.070
might struggle with speech. This is what they tell you
1180
00:48:38.110 --> 00:48:41.030
at the hospital. Because she's had no oral stimulation because
1181
00:48:41.050 --> 00:48:44.010
she's not been breastfed. She hasn't used a bottle. She's
1182
00:48:44.070 --> 00:48:47.570
not been speaking. And we were like, right, OK. So
1183
00:48:47.849 --> 00:48:49.449
we went out for a meal and we sort of
1184
00:48:49.510 --> 00:48:52.449
sat her next to us with this... an NG tube
1185
00:48:52.489 --> 00:48:55.090
in her nose and stuff. And everyone, like someone asked
1186
00:48:55.130 --> 00:48:57.019
us what was wrong, which I think is a weird question,
1187
00:48:57.059 --> 00:48:59.039
isn't it? Yeah. Stranger, like what's wrong?
1188
00:48:59.199 --> 00:48:59.460
Yeah.
1189
00:48:59.500 --> 00:49:02.480
So Gemma was like giving her gravy off her finger
1190
00:49:02.519 --> 00:49:05.219
and stuff. And she was starting to eat it. And
1191
00:49:05.239 --> 00:49:07.179
we were like, well, maybe it's not going to be
1192
00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:10.079
as problematic as we think. So the day after we
1193
00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:13.010
went for this scan and I'll, we're near the end
1194
00:49:13.050 --> 00:49:13.869
of it. You'll be pleased to know.
1195
00:49:14.929 --> 00:49:18.309
This is amazing story scott keep going it's astonishing.
1196
00:49:17.730 --> 00:49:20.610
Yeah we went to for this scan and that was
1197
00:49:20.630 --> 00:49:23.030
the moment i think both of us i think a
1198
00:49:23.110 --> 00:49:25.739
lot of emotion come out because they were like they
1199
00:49:25.780 --> 00:49:28.000
took her off us and we hadn't really been apart
1200
00:49:28.019 --> 00:49:30.079
from her yeah and they took us off us and
1201
00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:33.920
they put this dopamine into a system and we saw
1202
00:49:33.960 --> 00:49:36.079
her go into this machine and I think that was
1203
00:49:36.099 --> 00:49:39.019
the point where we were like oh this is the
1204
00:49:39.059 --> 00:49:41.679
worst part and then we had to just wait and
1205
00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:43.920
we weren't meant to get the results for two weeks
1206
00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:47.070
right which would have been agony but the guy who
1207
00:49:47.110 --> 00:49:50.019
was scanning her the doctor I think he took a
1208
00:49:50.019 --> 00:49:51.679
bit of a shine to us. I think it was again,
1209
00:49:51.739 --> 00:49:54.940
the language barrier because Gemma could speak German. I think
1210
00:49:54.960 --> 00:49:57.159
there's a little bit of a, where they're not just
1211
00:49:57.199 --> 00:50:01.039
shouting at us in loud English. What is the result?
1212
00:50:02.500 --> 00:50:06.650
Diffuse or vocal, tell me now.
1213
00:50:06.750 --> 00:50:10.190
And what happened was we were sort of sitting there
1214
00:50:10.210 --> 00:50:13.070
and we sort of thanked the doctor and he had
1215
00:50:13.090 --> 00:50:16.090
like the folder and he sort of opened the side
1216
00:50:16.110 --> 00:50:16.710
of the folder.
1217
00:50:17.269 --> 00:50:17.889
Instantly?
1218
00:50:18.389 --> 00:50:21.550
He had the printout. And he sort of slid it
1219
00:50:21.690 --> 00:50:26.469
towards us and he went, it's focal. And then he said,
1220
00:50:26.730 --> 00:50:30.280
it's in the tail, which means it's, you can operate.
1221
00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:31.300
Oh my God.
1222
00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:34.659
And like, we were just sort of sat there just going,
1223
00:50:35.300 --> 00:50:38.230
holy shit. So we know now this can end.
1224
00:50:38.449 --> 00:50:38.710
Yeah.
1225
00:50:39.380 --> 00:50:41.880
Yeah. And it was like a moment where we were like, oh,
1226
00:50:41.920 --> 00:50:44.619
my God, this is unbelievable. And we were like, are
1227
00:50:44.659 --> 00:50:47.699
you 100% sure? Is that her scam? Yeah, yeah.
1228
00:50:48.239 --> 00:50:50.400
So did you jump in with English before Gemma couldn't
1229
00:50:50.420 --> 00:50:51.219
say that in German?
1230
00:50:51.300 --> 00:50:52.360
She was translating.
1231
00:50:52.590 --> 00:50:54.659
Don't fuck me about, mate. I had him up by
1232
00:50:54.679 --> 00:50:55.300
the collar, mate.
1233
00:50:55.429 --> 00:50:58.530
Listen, mate, I have been on a private jet.
1234
00:50:58.769 --> 00:51:02.590
I'm staying at Ronald McDonald House. I've had a microwave
1235
00:51:02.630 --> 00:51:04.829
meal from the co-op for seven weeks.
1236
00:51:05.510 --> 00:51:07.630
If you have shit in me, here we are now.
1237
00:51:11.510 --> 00:51:13.519
I mean, and Gemma was like, no, he was like, no,
1238
00:51:13.559 --> 00:51:16.000
I genuinely is. So we're going to send these results
1239
00:51:16.039 --> 00:51:18.699
back to Manchester. And so we got back to Manchester
1240
00:51:18.820 --> 00:51:20.769
and we thought, right, we're going to be in another
1241
00:51:20.809 --> 00:51:23.329
holding pattern. They did not piss about. They were like,
1242
00:51:23.670 --> 00:51:27.260
this was November. And they said, right, December the 14th,
1243
00:51:28.570 --> 00:51:31.170
she's been operated on wow brilliant then we were like
1244
00:51:31.630 --> 00:51:33.949
wow so we were like this is bonkers so basically
1245
00:51:33.969 --> 00:51:34.889
did they private.
1246
00:51:34.590 --> 00:51:37.889
Jet you back yeah they didn't go it's only focal
1247
00:51:37.909 --> 00:51:39.750
get on a fucking Ryanair.
1248
00:51:39.219 --> 00:51:43.139
Now get on a ferry mate you know like when
1249
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:45.320
you go into JD sports and they bring you up
1250
00:51:45.380 --> 00:51:47.320
on an elevator but you've got to go out on
1251
00:51:47.340 --> 00:51:50.900
the stairs yeah but you've bought your trainers piss off
1252
00:51:50.940 --> 00:51:57.969
now mate yeah Then this was the mad thing. They
1253
00:51:58.010 --> 00:52:01.309
introduced us to this surgeon. And these surgeons, mate, I
1254
00:52:01.969 --> 00:52:06.219
met this guy. They're special. They're not human beings. I
1255
00:52:06.280 --> 00:52:09.920
don't understand how they, I think they're on the psychopathy spectrum,
1256
00:52:10.099 --> 00:52:11.659
these people, because you have to be.
1257
00:52:11.679 --> 00:52:14.139
You can't have the emotion. You can't go into an.
1258
00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:16.699
Operating theatre going, oh my God, this is someone's child.
1259
00:52:16.949 --> 00:52:19.550
They were so like, the guy we met was like, yeah,
1260
00:52:19.590 --> 00:52:22.289
this is really easy. That's what he said. He was like,
1261
00:52:22.590 --> 00:52:25.599
this is really routine. It's in the tail. We'll take
1262
00:52:25.639 --> 00:52:30.219
the tail off. We'll seal the end with a cable
1263
00:52:30.239 --> 00:52:31.159
tie or something.
1264
00:52:31.179 --> 00:52:34.239
Just to be clear, the tail is of the pancreas.
1265
00:52:34.920 --> 00:52:36.239
It's not another.
1266
00:52:35.980 --> 00:52:40.780
Bit of the hairy thing. It's not the witches. Well,
1267
00:52:40.889 --> 00:52:43.210
the mad thing is as well is, as soon as
1268
00:52:43.269 --> 00:52:45.449
we do this op, she'll come off all the meds.
1269
00:52:45.789 --> 00:52:46.409
It'll all come off.
1270
00:52:46.489 --> 00:52:49.170
Wow. She won't need anything. The hair will fall off.
1271
00:52:49.329 --> 00:52:52.030
She'll molt. She's going to molt. How quickly did you
1272
00:52:52.090 --> 00:52:54.800
ask about the hair? Straight away. Will I need a
1273
00:52:54.880 --> 00:53:01.139
decent Dyson? That's what I said. And so basically he said,
1274
00:53:01.179 --> 00:53:03.980
it's one of the few operations that's curative, which is,
1275
00:53:04.300 --> 00:53:07.599
and we were like, cause we'd been, we'd been to
1276
00:53:07.679 --> 00:53:11.539
like this gathering in the hospital of people with CHI.
1277
00:53:11.559 --> 00:53:14.539
There's a whole family and it freaked us out. We
1278
00:53:14.619 --> 00:53:16.719
used to keep in touch with them. I still do
1279
00:53:16.909 --> 00:53:20.050
charity stuff for them, give them money. But I couldn't,
1280
00:53:20.190 --> 00:53:22.010
we were in one room and me and Gemma was like,
1281
00:53:22.030 --> 00:53:23.949
this is too hard. Cause there was people, there was
1282
00:53:23.969 --> 00:53:27.789
kids there with epilepsy, learning difficulties. It was like, we
1283
00:53:27.869 --> 00:53:31.389
realized in that moment, we were definitely the luckiest. Cause
1284
00:53:31.469 --> 00:53:34.780
like Olivia was showing no signs of anything. And we
1285
00:53:34.800 --> 00:53:37.539
were like, Jesus, we've really got away with this. And
1286
00:53:37.579 --> 00:53:39.280
like some of these kids have been left for like
1287
00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:43.320
a year without anything. Just never, you know, some of
1288
00:53:43.340 --> 00:53:46.179
these kids are presented when there were seven, which is insane.
1289
00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:48.630
Imagine that seven years old, you start fainting.
1290
00:53:48.650 --> 00:53:48.730
Yeah.
1291
00:53:49.590 --> 00:53:53.159
And you go like, it's unbelievable. So, yeah, they said
1292
00:53:53.179 --> 00:53:54.800
to us, right, we're going to do the op. And
1293
00:53:54.820 --> 00:53:57.179
I remember December the 14th, we went down for the
1294
00:53:57.239 --> 00:53:59.219
op and this surgeon was so cool. I think Gemma
1295
00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:02.210
fell in love with him a bit. I think there's
1296
00:54:02.230 --> 00:54:04.869
like a God complex in there. He was like Scottish.
1297
00:54:05.670 --> 00:54:08.070
I remember standing in the lift with him afterwards and
1298
00:54:08.090 --> 00:54:10.369
he was like in Kashmir and I was sort of
1299
00:54:10.389 --> 00:54:12.400
like stood there. And what do you say to a
1300
00:54:12.429 --> 00:54:19.449
bloke who saved a kid's life? I was like... Like you, Colt. Thanks, mate.
1301
00:54:19.489 --> 00:54:19.949
Nice one.
1302
00:54:20.070 --> 00:54:23.190
Because it's a miracle, isn't it, that they, you know,
1303
00:54:23.389 --> 00:54:25.670
inside the body discovered this and can do that and
1304
00:54:25.710 --> 00:54:27.369
everything's back to normal.
1305
00:54:27.630 --> 00:54:29.489
And then the mad thing was they said to us
1306
00:54:29.989 --> 00:54:33.670
when they operated, because there was some dark periods, I
1307
00:54:33.690 --> 00:54:36.989
won't lie, when they'd done the operation. we were on
1308
00:54:37.010 --> 00:54:39.989
intensive care and that is not to bring the mood down,
1309
00:54:40.010 --> 00:54:42.610
but that is a game changer. That's a world you
1310
00:54:42.679 --> 00:54:43.989
don't see, I think.
1311
00:54:44.010 --> 00:54:46.199
And we were on intensive care.
1312
00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:49.079
She had all tubes in her everywhere and she'd had
1313
00:54:49.119 --> 00:54:51.420
this really serious op. They'd had to go in through
1314
00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:54.099
her tummy. So they'd had to slice her tummy open
1315
00:54:54.519 --> 00:54:57.119
and go in. And I remember him saying like, well,
1316
00:54:57.340 --> 00:54:59.340
it's just behind the spleen. I was like, oh mate,
1317
00:54:59.360 --> 00:55:00.320
don't say things like that.
1318
00:55:00.579 --> 00:55:02.980
Yeah. You're making it sound like we're.
1319
00:55:02.900 --> 00:55:04.280
Off to the butchers or something. I'm just going to
1320
00:55:04.300 --> 00:55:06.519
move the spleen, move the spleen to the left, and
1321
00:55:06.539 --> 00:55:09.699
then I'll deal with that. And I remember him saying,
1322
00:55:09.980 --> 00:55:13.519
now we've done the operation. He said, do you watch her?
1323
00:55:13.659 --> 00:55:15.940
They had a machine to take her blood sugar this time.
1324
00:55:15.960 --> 00:55:18.320
She had a cannula in. And so we weren't pricking
1325
00:55:18.340 --> 00:55:21.119
her heel because she's in intensive care. And he was saying,
1326
00:55:21.579 --> 00:55:23.510
I was sat on a chair, no bed, so I
1327
00:55:23.530 --> 00:55:25.989
was sleeping in this chair. Was you watching the operation? No,
1328
00:55:26.179 --> 00:55:29.349
after the op, when she was recovering, they said, you
1329
00:55:29.369 --> 00:55:32.929
just watch now as her sugar increases. And I was like,
1330
00:55:33.070 --> 00:55:36.949
this won't be that quick. And he was like, watch.
1331
00:55:37.210 --> 00:55:39.449
And the first reading came in and it was like three.
1332
00:55:39.469 --> 00:55:43.599
And then it was like 3.1. 3.2. And it's like
1333
00:55:43.659 --> 00:55:47.739
a pancreas is starting to work properly. Alive, like in
1334
00:55:47.820 --> 00:55:50.829
front of you. And you're like, this is mental. And
1335
00:55:50.869 --> 00:55:51.449
then he said.
1336
00:55:51.489 --> 00:55:53.690
That's Soccer Saturday. The score's coming.
1337
00:55:54.190 --> 00:55:58.250
They've gone 5-1 up. Wickham at home. Do you know
1338
00:55:58.269 --> 00:56:01.050
what I mean? And then he said to me, this
1339
00:56:01.170 --> 00:56:03.550
bent my head. He says, here's what's going to be weird.
1340
00:56:03.860 --> 00:56:05.300
We're going to give her insulin in a minute.
1341
00:56:05.739 --> 00:56:07.139
It's like, you are joking me.
1342
00:56:07.360 --> 00:56:08.420
And he was like....
1343
00:56:09.500 --> 00:56:10.340
Here's what's weird.
1344
00:56:10.360 --> 00:56:11.960
Here's what's weird. You didn't say it like that. What
1345
00:56:11.980 --> 00:56:14.960
about the hair? That's quite weird. Here's what's weird. It's
1346
00:56:15.059 --> 00:56:17.139
a medical training. Here's what's weird, mate.
1347
00:56:17.539 --> 00:56:21.960
No, he said, so she got to like 15, 16, sugar.
1348
00:56:21.980 --> 00:56:23.940
Making up for lost time.
1349
00:56:24.159 --> 00:56:26.619
Making up, so then they gave her insulin and it
1350
00:56:26.659 --> 00:56:29.139
brought it down and basically the next week was just
1351
00:56:29.199 --> 00:56:32.969
letting her pancreas settle and take over. Yeah. But there
1352
00:56:32.989 --> 00:56:36.289
was some moments in there where you sort of realise
1353
00:56:36.349 --> 00:56:39.860
as well what you're actually amongst because I remember, We
1354
00:56:39.880 --> 00:56:42.940
were in that hospital and here's a really weird thing.
1355
00:56:42.980 --> 00:56:45.860
We had such surreal experiences because there was days where
1356
00:56:46.460 --> 00:56:49.550
you'd be in that hospital, that's just a children's hospital,
1357
00:56:49.719 --> 00:56:52.349
on the ward and like a family would come in
1358
00:56:52.469 --> 00:56:56.090
and they'd draw the curtains round and then the family
1359
00:56:56.130 --> 00:56:58.489
would slowly walk out and you realise what had happened,
1360
00:56:58.530 --> 00:57:00.190
that the kid had passed away. Yeah.
1361
00:57:01.929 --> 00:57:04.230
You sort of, you realize how close you are.
1362
00:57:04.250 --> 00:57:06.090
Do you know what I mean? And then the bed's
1363
00:57:06.150 --> 00:57:10.780
empty and there's moments like, and staying amongst that sometimes,
1364
00:57:11.000 --> 00:57:13.780
in your head, you're like, oh my God, this is,
1365
00:57:13.820 --> 00:57:16.320
we all look out the window and everyone's getting on
1366
00:57:16.340 --> 00:57:17.659
with their lives. Do you know what I mean? There's
1367
00:57:17.679 --> 00:57:20.739
buses going past, people are going to work. And you go,
1368
00:57:20.760 --> 00:57:25.639
but in here, it's, everything's a mess. You know, it's all,
1369
00:57:26.019 --> 00:57:28.900
everything can change in minutes. And I think you forget
1370
00:57:28.920 --> 00:57:31.079
how close you are to that sometimes.
1371
00:57:31.119 --> 00:57:31.579
Of course.
1372
00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:33.769
But then is one thing I forgot to mention, because
1373
00:57:33.789 --> 00:57:36.789
we spent Christmas in there after the off. We were
1374
00:57:36.809 --> 00:57:40.010
in there for Christmas Day. On Boxing Day, this was
1375
00:57:40.070 --> 00:57:42.960
so surreal. We were in the hospital. We're back on
1376
00:57:43.000 --> 00:57:46.039
the ward, both recovering. My mum and dad had been
1377
00:57:46.099 --> 00:57:48.489
and brought us like a buffet in Tupperware. We're still
1378
00:57:48.550 --> 00:57:50.750
on the wine. I had a drink problem by that point.
1379
00:57:50.769 --> 00:57:54.389
LAUGHTER Putting the weight straight back on.
1380
00:57:54.710 --> 00:57:55.690
Oh, no.
1381
00:57:55.769 --> 00:57:58.469
Yeah, I was looking good still.
1382
00:57:59.210 --> 00:58:01.219
Yeah, but a bit red. I had a lot of
1383
00:58:01.239 --> 00:58:03.800
Christmas weight. We couldn't do any Christmas shopping. We had
1384
00:58:03.820 --> 00:58:06.539
to do presents from, like, B & M in Rush
1385
00:58:06.880 --> 00:58:09.019
Home in Manchester. That's where the hospital is. Oh, yeah,
1386
00:58:09.059 --> 00:58:12.630
Corrie Mile. Yeah, good old Rush Home. And we sat there,
1387
00:58:12.690 --> 00:58:15.369
and then the nurse said, oh, today the Manchester United
1388
00:58:15.409 --> 00:58:20.469
team are coming round. And we were like, really? They're like, yeah, yeah.
1389
00:58:21.010 --> 00:58:23.969
So would you like to meet Wayne Rooney and all
1390
00:58:23.989 --> 00:58:25.989
the team? And we were like, yeah, all right, yeah.
1391
00:58:26.829 --> 00:58:30.510
Are you a Man United fan? No, don't really like football. But,
1392
00:58:30.809 --> 00:58:32.909
you know, it's Wayne Rooney, isn't it? And when your
1393
00:58:32.949 --> 00:58:37.110
days are spent waiting for toast and watching CBeebies, Wayne Rooney,
1394
00:58:37.389 --> 00:58:37.949
nice change.
1395
00:58:38.050 --> 00:58:39.989
Also, when you're hammered, why not?
1396
00:58:40.610 --> 00:58:43.750
Yeah, yeah. I just said, just keep him away from the,
1397
00:58:43.889 --> 00:58:47.449
you know, geriatric ward. That's what I said. Yeah. So
1398
00:58:47.469 --> 00:58:49.010
who did you meet? Who did you meet?
1399
00:58:49.050 --> 00:58:49.570
Did they come round?
1400
00:58:49.590 --> 00:58:52.139
Yeah, so they came round. So it was Wayne Rooney.
1401
00:58:52.599 --> 00:58:55.139
It was, oh God, I've got a picture of it.
1402
00:58:55.199 --> 00:58:57.159
I should have brought the book in, but who else
1403
00:58:57.199 --> 00:59:01.460
were they? Oh, there was Darren Fletcher. I think Darren Fletcher.
1404
00:59:03.070 --> 00:59:04.809
He had Crohn's as well. He had a chronic Crohn's
1405
00:59:05.050 --> 00:59:06.170
and still played football.
1406
00:59:06.190 --> 00:59:08.739
This was before that. Yeah. I didn't say to him,
1407
00:59:08.769 --> 00:59:13.449
you'll be in here in six months. There was a goalkeeper.
1408
00:59:13.469 --> 00:59:17.090
I was a goalkeeper. Van der Sar. Van der Sar.
1409
00:59:17.349 --> 00:59:19.650
So like four of them came round and we were
1410
00:59:19.750 --> 00:59:23.090
sort of sat there and it was just so surreal.
1411
00:59:23.110 --> 00:59:25.309
We sort of sat in bed and like Wayne Rooney
1412
00:59:25.369 --> 00:59:28.760
and that. And they brought a toy with a Manchester
1413
00:59:28.780 --> 00:59:31.980
United T-shirt on. And then he sort of like, Gemma
1414
00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:33.980
was like, she didn't know what to say. Neither of
1415
00:59:34.039 --> 00:59:36.840
us really liked football. And she went, does your kid
1416
00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:37.940
like Christmas?
1417
00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:38.519
Yeah.
1418
00:59:40.320 --> 00:59:42.349
And I was like, oh, come on, Gem. That's a
1419
00:59:42.409 --> 00:59:46.130
terrible question. I remember he went, yeah, he likes the lights.
1420
00:59:47.230 --> 00:59:49.739
And that was it. That was the whole interaction. He
1421
00:59:49.800 --> 00:59:50.599
likes the lights.
1422
00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:52.619
Such a kid like Christmas.
1423
00:59:52.780 --> 00:59:55.440
And yeah, so they sign stuff. So we've got the book.
1424
00:59:55.519 --> 00:59:58.260
Can I just ask a quick question on that? Yeah.
1425
00:59:58.320 --> 01:00:02.260
When Wayne met your daughter... Was that pre or post
1426
01:00:02.280 --> 01:00:05.369
his hair transplant? Did he steal some of her medication?
1427
01:00:05.590 --> 01:00:08.409
Yeah, no, that was before the transplant. I bagged it
1428
01:00:08.510 --> 01:00:10.960
up for him. I goes, here you go, Ray. Get
1429
01:00:10.980 --> 01:00:15.340
a bit of prick stick on there, mate. That's 10-week-old
1430
01:00:15.719 --> 01:00:19.619
child's soft hair. That's soft hair. Very soft.
1431
01:00:19.639 --> 01:00:22.949
Very soft hair. And we kept a journal of it all.
1432
01:00:23.199 --> 01:00:23.469
Oh, wow.
1433
01:00:23.550 --> 01:00:25.250
I definitely think you need to write a book about
1434
01:00:25.289 --> 01:00:28.630
this or a drama or something, Scott. It needs to
1435
01:00:28.650 --> 01:00:29.170
go somewhere.
1436
01:00:29.289 --> 01:00:33.690
Yeah, and she switched on the Christmas lights, the little one,
1437
01:00:33.710 --> 01:00:36.570
when we were at Manchester. with a load of other
1438
01:00:36.610 --> 01:00:39.570
little kids. It was really weird. And then, yeah, we
1439
01:00:39.610 --> 01:00:42.260
get to January, we have Christmas in the hospital, which
1440
01:00:42.300 --> 01:00:44.820
was really surreal. And then they get to January and
1441
01:00:44.840 --> 01:00:47.159
they go, I remember January the 1st, they just went, right,
1442
01:00:47.590 --> 01:00:47.969
you can go.
1443
01:00:49.039 --> 01:00:51.619
And she was all just, everything back to normal.
1444
01:00:51.699 --> 01:00:54.090
Back to normal. And then by that point, she was
1445
01:00:54.159 --> 01:00:56.789
drinking out of a Tommy Tippy cup. So straight away
1446
01:00:56.849 --> 01:00:59.510
she was on it. So those fears were going. She
1447
01:00:59.530 --> 01:01:02.650
was babbling. She was starting to talk. Do you know
1448
01:01:02.670 --> 01:01:05.889
what I mean? A scar was there. And we sort
1449
01:01:05.909 --> 01:01:09.230
of left the hospital. And I remember... Just sort of
1450
01:01:09.269 --> 01:01:11.699
driving back. And it was that really cold winter. Do
1451
01:01:11.719 --> 01:01:13.519
you know when it was like minus 13? Do you
1452
01:01:13.679 --> 01:01:15.820
remember that? Was that Beast from the East?
1453
01:01:15.940 --> 01:01:16.159
It was.
1454
01:01:16.360 --> 01:01:19.829
Everything froze. And like we got home and Gemma's dad
1455
01:01:19.849 --> 01:01:22.070
had said to us, oh, I didn't tell you this,
1456
01:01:22.110 --> 01:01:23.510
but while you were away, I went in the house
1457
01:01:23.550 --> 01:01:27.280
and your boiler had packed up. Oh no. he said
1458
01:01:27.320 --> 01:01:29.500
it had frozen and like there was ice on the
1459
01:01:29.519 --> 01:01:31.539
inside of the windows but he'd had a boiler put
1460
01:01:31.579 --> 01:01:34.440
in for us a new boiler so we got home
1461
01:01:34.480 --> 01:01:36.380
and it was all done and like they'd put like
1462
01:01:36.420 --> 01:01:39.079
a tree in the house and like we had like
1463
01:01:39.139 --> 01:01:41.809
a late Christmas like for the first week of January
1464
01:01:42.449 --> 01:01:44.550
and it was just like I remember just sitting there
1465
01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:49.039
just like shell-shocked, you know, like going, holy shit, this is.
1466
01:01:49.050 --> 01:01:52.010
What the fuck was that? What was that? Because that
1467
01:01:52.030 --> 01:01:53.130
was six months, was it?
1468
01:01:53.510 --> 01:01:59.260
Six months? It was August through to January, basically. August, September, November, January, February. Yeah,
1469
01:01:59.519 --> 01:02:02.659
sort of five, six months. And then was everything normal?
1470
01:02:02.989 --> 01:02:03.219
Yeah.
1471
01:02:03.300 --> 01:02:05.829
So this was a really weird thing is that we
1472
01:02:05.849 --> 01:02:07.989
had like these follow up appointments where they were doing
1473
01:02:08.050 --> 01:02:13.690
all sorts of stuff. And we were really nervy parents, understandably,
1474
01:02:14.130 --> 01:02:17.409
for the like first six, three months. Every time she
1475
01:02:17.449 --> 01:02:19.010
coughed or shit herself, we were in A & E.
1476
01:02:19.059 --> 01:02:19.260
Yeah.
1477
01:02:21.429 --> 01:02:24.070
I'm like that. I didn't even have your excuse. Yeah,
1478
01:02:24.150 --> 01:02:28.239
we were neurotic, mate. We were completely like, every time
1479
01:02:28.280 --> 01:02:30.179
she had like a thing, we were like straight down
1480
01:02:30.199 --> 01:02:32.239
to the walking centre and we used it as a pass.
1481
01:02:32.260 --> 01:02:34.159
We were like, we went to Berlin. She was on
1482
01:02:34.199 --> 01:02:36.280
a private jet. She's a high risk. You know what
1483
01:02:36.300 --> 01:02:38.920
I mean? We were straight in. Suit on. Suit on.
1484
01:02:38.980 --> 01:02:39.320
Tie on.
1485
01:02:39.780 --> 01:02:42.059
By then, the weight was coming back. Cheekbones had gone.
1486
01:02:42.849 --> 01:02:44.909
Just a fat man in a suit crying.
1487
01:02:45.190 --> 01:02:47.309
What was really interesting though is both of us didn't
1488
01:02:47.349 --> 01:02:50.039
really come away unscathed because this is a mad thing.
1489
01:02:50.079 --> 01:02:52.440
It's like I had eczema as a kid really bad
1490
01:02:52.460 --> 01:02:56.300
and it was dormant for years. Well, end of January, boom.
1491
01:02:56.760 --> 01:02:59.320
It was all the adrenaline and all the stress. I
1492
01:02:59.360 --> 01:03:02.030
had to myself have treatment. I was put on strong
1493
01:03:02.050 --> 01:03:05.949
medication because my skin just went So your body, the adrenaline,
1494
01:03:06.110 --> 01:03:09.849
and then your reaction straight away. And then Gemma had
1495
01:03:09.869 --> 01:03:12.840
to have a few tablets and help. And I think
1496
01:03:12.889 --> 01:03:18.960
we'd been like this. Existing. It's amazing what adrenaline can do.
1497
01:03:19.300 --> 01:03:20.679
Like how it gets you through.
1498
01:03:20.699 --> 01:03:20.800
Yeah.
1499
01:03:20.860 --> 01:03:22.719
And how long it can last. And how long it
1500
01:03:22.760 --> 01:03:23.280
can last.
1501
01:03:23.320 --> 01:03:23.539
Yeah.
1502
01:03:23.659 --> 01:03:25.929
And we sort of came back. But now I look
1503
01:03:25.949 --> 01:03:29.130
at her. So she's 12 years old. She's doing brilliant
1504
01:03:29.489 --> 01:03:33.750
at school. She's had no problems whatsoever. The only thing
1505
01:03:33.769 --> 01:03:36.539
she's ever mentioned about is she's got a scar. So
1506
01:03:36.579 --> 01:03:38.500
she's conscious that she's got a scar. Yeah.
1507
01:03:38.880 --> 01:03:39.139
You know.
1508
01:03:39.300 --> 01:03:41.380
And she speaks in a German accent. That's the other thing.
1509
01:03:42.940 --> 01:03:47.449
She'll only go anywhere by a Learjet now. Like a
1510
01:03:47.610 --> 01:03:52.039
little Kardashian. so she's got like a scar and she
1511
01:03:52.099 --> 01:03:54.389
had like a little they call it a peg where
1512
01:03:54.429 --> 01:03:56.730
she was fed into a stomach so it's like a
1513
01:03:56.769 --> 01:04:01.010
little dint but other than that she's completely unscathed and
1514
01:04:01.090 --> 01:04:06.239
now it feels like a different life Yeah, I bet.
1515
01:04:06.329 --> 01:04:08.630
Here's the amazing close to the story. I think I
1516
01:04:08.650 --> 01:04:11.070
said to you, we got rid of everything, didn't we?
1517
01:04:11.170 --> 01:04:13.530
We sold the cot. We sold everything. We didn't want
1518
01:04:13.670 --> 01:04:16.019
any reminder of it. So we got rid of it.
1519
01:04:16.019 --> 01:04:17.719
And we said, we're only going to have one child.
1520
01:04:17.960 --> 01:04:20.940
I was booked in for the snip and everything. Yeah,
1521
01:04:20.980 --> 01:04:23.340
being flown out to Munich for it, weren't you? Yeah,
1522
01:04:23.360 --> 01:04:26.199
it was a high-end snip. The pilot got me out
1523
01:04:26.239 --> 01:04:28.750
there as a priority. But we sort of said, look,
1524
01:04:29.329 --> 01:04:31.829
I don't think we could make the decision now. And
1525
01:04:31.849 --> 01:04:34.909
then five years later, we had Sophia. Went for it again.
1526
01:04:34.929 --> 01:04:37.949
And there was that moment when they kept us in
1527
01:04:37.989 --> 01:04:39.670
hospital for a week and she had to have the
1528
01:04:39.710 --> 01:04:42.889
heel pricked. Oh, my fucking Lord. Oh, God. Just in case.
1529
01:04:42.909 --> 01:04:43.710
Just in case.
1530
01:04:43.889 --> 01:04:48.280
But completely fine. She had a genetic test. It's not there.
1531
01:04:48.559 --> 01:04:50.719
My brother's had two children, both fine.
1532
01:04:50.880 --> 01:04:55.099
And would your daughters have this potential to pass this on?
1533
01:04:55.460 --> 01:04:59.340
Yeah, Olivia definitely is because she's carrying. So if she
1534
01:04:59.409 --> 01:05:02.769
has children, she's a high risk. So I think she's
1535
01:05:02.789 --> 01:05:07.010
like a 30% chance. Whereas Sophia's nothing because she's not
1536
01:05:07.070 --> 01:05:09.230
in her system. But you're carrying as well.
1537
01:05:09.289 --> 01:05:11.320
I'm carrying. So I've lived with it.
1538
01:05:11.510 --> 01:05:14.380
Yeah. And I've had no, you know, other than being
1539
01:05:14.400 --> 01:05:17.900
a comedian, which is obviously a problem. There's been no
1540
01:05:17.940 --> 01:05:20.320
sort of, but it was, yeah. We look back now
1541
01:05:20.380 --> 01:05:23.260
and just go, whenever I see parents who've been through
1542
01:05:23.280 --> 01:05:26.989
stuff now, I always think, God, this is, you forget
1543
01:05:27.409 --> 01:05:30.090
that's one part of parenting that no one talks about,
1544
01:05:30.150 --> 01:05:30.349
I think.
1545
01:05:31.110 --> 01:05:33.789
Exactly. And thank you so much for sharing it, Scott.
1546
01:05:33.849 --> 01:05:37.780
It's hilarious and also really important and just an amazing story.
1547
01:05:38.059 --> 01:05:39.719
And I think we'll definitely get you back on for
1548
01:05:39.860 --> 01:05:40.519
what I'd say.
1549
01:05:40.400 --> 01:05:42.340
More of a normal episode. Just to talk about the
1550
01:05:42.380 --> 01:05:43.719
washing up and shit like that.
1551
01:05:44.400 --> 01:05:46.860
Just all the days and times you've fallen over and
1552
01:05:46.900 --> 01:05:48.179
something and they've put on a laugh.
1553
01:05:48.300 --> 01:05:50.760
You know, that kind of stuff. Or your daughter said
1554
01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:52.650
shit once in front of someone important.
1555
01:05:52.690 --> 01:05:54.510
It's a real shame because I had a cracking story
1556
01:05:54.570 --> 01:05:57.210
about my daughter pissing herself near the deli counter, which.
1557
01:05:57.690 --> 01:05:59.590
Oh, well, that's something to look forward to next time.
1558
01:05:59.670 --> 01:06:02.909
Which would have been much better, much lighter, much lighter.
1559
01:06:02.949 --> 01:06:04.300
Is it the same length? I'll tell you what.
1560
01:06:04.340 --> 01:06:07.099
Is it the same length of story, or is it? Oh, yeah,
1561
01:06:07.179 --> 01:06:08.159
they're all an hour, John.
1562
01:06:08.460 --> 01:06:10.239
We'll get you up for that one when you announce
1563
01:06:10.280 --> 01:06:12.340
a new tour, so you can sell some tickets, yeah?
1564
01:06:12.380 --> 01:06:14.079
Thank you, mate. Are you still touring at the moment?
1565
01:06:14.119 --> 01:06:16.889
I am, yeah. I'm touring again with the Greatest Hits tour,
1566
01:06:17.179 --> 01:06:18.449
and we're going all the way to the end of
1567
01:06:18.469 --> 01:06:20.530
the year. We've just got the Greatest Hit. That was it.
1568
01:06:20.610 --> 01:06:23.610
That was the Greatest Hit. Oh, there's plenty in the locker, baby.
1569
01:06:23.630 --> 01:06:24.929
I have got, you know.
1570
01:06:25.170 --> 01:06:28.130
I'd say as well, your stand-up isn't that in-depth or
1571
01:06:28.409 --> 01:06:32.800
sort of, you know, deep about childhood illness. I'd say
1572
01:06:32.820 --> 01:06:34.679
you don't really touch on that on stage, and it's
1573
01:06:34.800 --> 01:06:35.820
just a very funny hour.
1574
01:06:35.840 --> 01:06:37.820
No, I tend to swerve that. I think if you've
1575
01:06:37.840 --> 01:06:40.119
got a babysitter, the last thing you need is to
1576
01:06:40.139 --> 01:06:44.380
be sitting there going, this is traumatic. We've just been
1577
01:06:44.400 --> 01:06:48.280
to Nando's, we've got a babysitter, and now we're watching this.
1578
01:06:48.380 --> 01:06:51.710
This is not stand-up. This is a crack-up. No. So
1579
01:06:51.849 --> 01:06:55.480
it's called Great Scott, my tour. If you go to scottbennettcomedy.co.uk
1580
01:06:55.500 --> 01:06:57.639
forward slash live and it's my favourite bits. It's a
1581
01:06:57.679 --> 01:07:00.400
lot about families and family holidays and things like that
1582
01:07:00.500 --> 01:07:02.780
and stuff that, you know, parents will relate to. But
1583
01:07:02.960 --> 01:07:04.380
if you're not a parent as well, there's loads of
1584
01:07:04.400 --> 01:07:07.110
stuff in there about life. And also our podcast is
1585
01:07:07.130 --> 01:07:08.130
called Brew with the Bennetts.
1586
01:07:08.570 --> 01:07:10.929
E-W- brew with the bennetts if you listen to the
1587
01:07:10.949 --> 01:07:14.530
podcast bwtb pod and that's us thank you so much
1588
01:07:14.550 --> 01:07:17.320
for having me on today no thanks for doing it
1589
01:07:17.340 --> 01:07:19.360
no you're a good man it's got a brilliant comedian
1590
01:07:19.460 --> 01:07:21.619
and they should definitely get most of all thank you
1591
01:07:21.639 --> 01:07:23.579
for starting before your kids have even got up.
1592
01:07:23.639 --> 01:07:25.800
And they won't have got up yet 10 12 i
1593
01:07:25.840 --> 01:07:28.090
think one of them will be coming down now in
1594
01:07:28.130 --> 01:07:33.110
a dressing gown like lou style just wandering about like ophelia.
1595
01:07:32.809 --> 01:07:37.510
Well, you've definitely earned a lie-in after six months in hospital.
1596
01:07:37.530 --> 01:07:39.369
I know, yeah, that's it. And they've got a new
1597
01:07:39.409 --> 01:07:40.710
mattress coming soon.
1598
01:07:40.730 --> 01:07:41.929
Oh, what a life.
1599
01:07:41.949 --> 01:07:44.889
Yeah, it's a dream, yeah. Too expensive, though, I think,
1600
01:07:44.969 --> 01:07:47.150
in the back of my mind. What she said to us,
1601
01:07:47.159 --> 01:07:48.619
do you want to do it in installments? And I
1602
01:07:48.619 --> 01:07:50.219
was like, the last thing you need when you're trying
1603
01:07:50.239 --> 01:07:52.340
to sleep is to worry about paying off the thing
1604
01:07:52.380 --> 01:07:55.800
you sleep in.
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01:07:55.820 --> 01:07:57.820
Scott, thanks so much, mate. That was absolutely brilliant.
1606
01:07:57.840 --> 01:07:58.739
Thank you so much, guys.
1607
01:08:01.239 --> 01:08:03.039
Scott Bennett. What a story, Josh.
1608
01:08:03.059 --> 01:08:04.760
Amazing. Incredible.
1609
01:08:05.039 --> 01:08:06.420
I mean, that was the second time I've heard it,
1610
01:08:06.420 --> 01:08:09.519
but I was still enthralled. Yeah, it's incredible. Just for listeners,
1611
01:08:09.559 --> 01:08:11.530
he looks a lot like Keir Starmer, doesn't he?
1612
01:08:11.539 --> 01:08:13.300
Yeah, a little bit, actually.
1613
01:08:13.320 --> 01:08:13.860
Yeah.
1614
01:08:14.179 --> 01:08:15.980
Yeah, I think that'd be your takeaway from this.
1615
01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:18.869
Sorry, that wasn't my take home. Well, I thought early on,
1616
01:08:18.880 --> 01:08:21.000
I thought I should mention this Keir Starmer thing. As
1617
01:08:21.039 --> 01:08:22.640
the story went on, I thought I'm getting less and
1618
01:08:22.680 --> 01:08:25.119
less chance here to drop the Keir Starmer thing. Yeah,
1619
01:08:25.159 --> 01:08:28.109
I'd love if you panicked and put it in like, yeah,
1620
01:08:28.210 --> 01:08:29.789
and you look a bit like Keir Starmer. So yeah,
1621
01:08:29.850 --> 01:08:34.670
what is ICU like? Go and see Scott Bennett on tour.
1622
01:08:34.970 --> 01:08:38.149
Listen to his podcast. He's absolutely brilliant, as you can hear.
1623
01:08:38.170 --> 01:08:40.229
I mean, if you can make that funny. Honestly, his
1624
01:08:40.270 --> 01:08:42.880
stand-up is absolutely brilliant. It's proper laugh out loud funny.
1625
01:08:43.220 --> 01:08:44.720
And that's why I think that was so good and
1626
01:08:45.060 --> 01:08:46.319
a good place for Scott to do it because he
1627
01:08:46.359 --> 01:08:48.180
doesn't really talk about that kind of stuff in his
1628
01:08:48.199 --> 01:08:50.560
stand-up because he's just going for laughs the whole time
1629
01:08:51.100 --> 01:08:53.260
and stuff. So yeah, no, he's brilliant. Brilliant act and
1630
01:08:53.319 --> 01:08:53.659
a good man.
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01:08:54.090 --> 01:08:56.300
Shall I see you on Tuesday, Rob? Yes, you will. Bye-bye.
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Hello I'm Rob Beckett and I'm Josh Willicombe.
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Welcome to Parenting.
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Hell the show in which Josh and I discuss what
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it's really like to be a parent which I would
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say can be a little tricky.
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So to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about
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the trials and tribulations of modern day parenting each week
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we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're
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coping or hopefully how they're not coping and we'll also
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be hearing from you the listener with your tips advice
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and of course tales of parenting woe because let's be
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honest there are plenty of times where none of us
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know what we're doing Hello, you're listening to Parenting Hell with... OK, Florence,
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can you say Rob Beckett?
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Rob Beckett. Can you say Josh Widdicombe? Josh Widdicombe. Whose
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birthday is it today? Whose? What's your name? Josh.
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Yay! There we go. This is Florence from Middlesbrough.
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Oh, fuck.
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Intrigued to see where Rob recognised the accent from.
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Well, that's gone forever. Middlesbrough. Yeah, correct.
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She's gone very cute and a bit posh for this
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voice now, I must admit. No kid to myself, but
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this is my four-year-old niece, Florence. It was her birthday
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when we recorded this, and I loved the podcast since
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you started. Me and my mate Alice listen all the time,
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and we're hoping to get tickets if you do another tour.
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Keep being sexy and relatable. Lucy, also from Borough. UTB
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up the borough maybe up the borough yeah up the
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borough Middlesbrough fans if you want to come we've got
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one more gig on our world's high Dubai yeah Monday
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oh no we're doing Glastonbury and we're doing Glastonbury yeah
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yes on Saturday about one o'clock is it yeah in
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the tent yeah in the cabaret tent cabaret shall we
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reveal I'm a bit worried about reveal what piece of
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piss Rob no not about the gig that's fine about
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all the people there yeah there is a lot all
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the cabaret people Oh, there's a lot of rollies going
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around backstage. But there's a lot of people in leather waistcoats.
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Oh, no.
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People where it's a lifestyle. The people that haven't seen,
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you know, like people that don't watch Match of the Day.
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There's not going to be a lot of Match of
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the Day watching going on backstage, Rob.
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Fair enough. But there will be.
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A lot of people who will be talking about the
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glory days of street performance. And they're due to come.
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I really struggled to get on border street performance and
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I don't want to alienate. It's not my, it's not
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my scene.
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Put your hat on the floor on that baggy tightrope
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i don't know you know you know each of their
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own each of their own not for me though josh
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are you looking forward to glastonbury i'm a bit concerned
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are you nervous we've had to move on this is
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the most parenting hell thing ever why have we moved
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our set we were supposed to be on the friday
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lunchtime so then we could enjoy glastonbury as much as
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possible but josh has very kindly allowed us to move
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the set to Saturday lunchtime because I got confused. It's
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my daughter's sports day on the Friday of Glastonbury.
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Classic, classic.
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there too late. I don't want it to be stressful.
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then do our show.
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So what, are you going to go, because guns.
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I'm not going to go to Guns N' Roses. Can
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you talk me through what a day, say, talk me
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through what, if we're shadowing you.
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Wake up.
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Wake up. 5K run around the site. Really?
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I don't know what you carny folk do.
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I'm not a carny folk. You're a carny.
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sober Glastonbury, Rob. Right, talk to me about this. This
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is interesting. Yeah, it is interesting. You're not wrong about that.
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What's the plan? Well, I've been sober now. Well, sober's
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a big word, isn't it? I'm not drunk, sorry.
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Just check my app. 66 days. 66 days. Okay, solid. Yeah.
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the culture of that trip to Glastonbury is go mad
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for it because it's one weekend a year where anything
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goes and then you spend the week recovering.
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The next week. Yeah.
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But I'm not doing that this year. Okay, so what's
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your plan of action?
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Just enjoy the music, man.
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if they're still doing that type of thing. Yes, I know.
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That is a worry. But I think I'll be fine.
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I think I'll just go to bed after the headliner.
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I don't think I'll go on till... I'm definitely doing that.
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Go to stay out after the headliner to go to
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that weird spider thing where there's fire and drunk people.
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Fuck off. So me and you can go to bed
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together and everyone else can go and have fun.
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other people. It's more mainstream than you think as a
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group of people.
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lot of people where this is their massive blowout of
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the year where that's the kind of lifestyle I used
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to operate where I'd work, work, work, and on a
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Friday get battered or go away for the weekend, get
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battered with mates.
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I used to talk like that until 66 days ago, yes.
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Well, I'm trying to create a new calm and content
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all the time.
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Snap, Rob, that's me. That's me. But it's never low.
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I'm living my eight out of ten life every day
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rather than tens and ones.
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That's what I'm looking for.
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I'd like to, on Monday, be on eight.
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So you're just going to go home. And you're going
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with Rose. Is Rose going to be out drinking? But
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she's got loads of mates anyway. So you've got to
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Exactly. It's going to be great. I'm really excited about
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loads of the bands. I'm going to watch the Hives.
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Arctic Monkeys, but the one before, there's a band called
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That's exciting. There's something fun for you.
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Apparently. Apparently. Apparently.
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This is classic Glastonbury talk. People chatting shit off their
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it's not the churn-ups, is it?
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great stuff, has he? No offence, Tone. I don't watch
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Tony Adly do an acoustic set in a field. I
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of this podcast, I'd be very excited about the post-Glastonbury
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episode to see how Rob reacts to going to Glastonbury
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and I react to going to Glastonbury sober. Well, that's
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what they say about drinking, isn't it? It's borrowing happiness
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from tomorrow.
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through it, I think will be good, is one, I'll
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get you drinking because people will.
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just think about 10 a.m.
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Saturday morning. Yeah. When everyone else feels awful.
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You've got either decaf coffee or decaf tea.
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You can have a caffeine tea. Why not have a
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caffeine coffee, mate? Because I'm fucking away for the weekend.
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That's your Glastonbury. Why don't you just have loads of coffee? Yeah.
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will be up until 3am. After all. Just get on
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Red Bull. Just get obsessed with that.
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That's always good. Replace an addiction with an addiction. I
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don't think you had an addiction, did you? You just,
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it affected your mood too much. Well, let's not go
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into it, Rob.
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got a taxi the other day somewhere, me, Lou, and
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their friends and was going on a day out. And
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they were screaming so much and cheering. And we ended
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up playing the A to Z game of animals to
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kids were so loud. right, on the way.
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young age um the uh so trigger warning to anyone
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happy ending it's all it's all very positive which is
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very lucky um and wonderful but it's a journey and
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Welcome to the podcast, Scott Bennett. Thank you very much, Scott.
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Thank you. Thank you for having me. It's an early one,
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isn't it? It is. I was just saying before we
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rock and roll comics. And they were like, no, it's genuinely,
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we're going out before the end of GB News.
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That's what we're doing.
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Not GB News. Adil Ray is still discussing politics.
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nine o'clock is like, no, that makes complete sense. You've
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This is how you get to the top of podcasting, mate.
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You start early. We're doing 16 episodes today. We will
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and Rob record all of Parenting Hell for a year
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This is a worse contract than working for Amazon.
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job that you love and you get to pick your hours.
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Why the fuck are you doing this at 9am?
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week right right okay we've sort of it's drifted Yeah.
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To be fair, it's only Thursday. It's not like week
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four of the summer holidays. I know. Well, the problem
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was is that they've started sleeping. My eldest tends to
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look after the youngest in the morning. So she'll sort
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of get her breakfast for her because the eldest is 12.
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And me and Gemma were laid next to each other
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last week. It was like a Sunday. And I was like,
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my God, it's like half 10. And we could hear
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them downstairs. And she was like, oh, this is brilliant,
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isn't it? They're looking after each other. I was like, well,
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it's not. It's neglect.
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It's neglect.
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It's just bad parenting mate it's shaking near the eldest
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boiling pans.
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Yeah boiling pans at 8am going for fuck's sake two
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more hours until she's down for breakfast fully laid out
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table livid so what time what time do they go
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to bed at the moment uh don't panic i'm not
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from the council.
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Youngest is i know it does feel like i'm being
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judged now i would say 10 for the youngest Is
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that too late? Let's rein it back at night.
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What, like when you're filling in how much alcohol units
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you do at the doctor?
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Let's go for what's acceptable. I'll put in the truth
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and acceptable.
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What are the units for 15 pints Friday and Saturday?
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How many units is that, Doc? If you were a doctor,
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I'd say seven, but... Seven pints.
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No, they're never going to bed at 7, 10 p.m.
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I think 10 p.m. is a bit late, but it's
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Easter holidays. I think you can be let off. And also,
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you've got a 12-year-old, so it's very difficult to get
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the youngest to do what the eldest was doing when
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they were seven.
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Yeah, and they sort of squirrel away. And I put up,
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I mean, this is my life at the moment. I
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put up some LED lights in a bedroom the other day,
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my oldest. Now, this is the thing, apparently. You can
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control them with a phone. So what I've done is
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I've combined keeping her awake with a device. So it's
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perfect parenting.
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So she has to turn her lights off with her phone,
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which is really good. That's an excellent one. I think
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they say that, don't they?
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It's a good way to calm down before bed, to
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be in charge of a lighting rig from your phone
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at 12.
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Yeah, to be a roadie for pink flies before you
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nod off. That's what I was doing the other day,
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was putting lights up in the bedroom.
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I don't know if you get this, Scott, but I
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get a slight lockdown flashbacks when the kids are off school.
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Definitely.
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You know, like when they're off over Easter and you're
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not on holiday or you're not doing anything fun that day,
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you're sort of in the house looking at each other.
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I start getting panicked after going to check the news
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in case we're not allowed in the nan round.
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I think Gemma gets a bit annoyed with me because
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I'm one of those people that I feel like I
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need a plan for the day. I don't know if
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you guys are like that, but I feel like we
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have to have.
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You're talking to two guys that have organised a podcast
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at 9am, I think.
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Yeah, 9am.
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You certainly didn't need a plan when we gave you one,
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did you?
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You're livid. But, I mean, it's just like the idea of, like,
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we need to be doing something. We've got to get
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out at some point. Get on the bikes or just...
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I just had the idea of... I can see in
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the shed, these bikes I got, I'm just decaying. It's like,
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you know, you drive a car off the forecourt. It's
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like those bikes are losing value on an hourly rate.
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Well, I feel like that, but it's hard to try
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and get them in the park. It's so wet and cold.
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Yeah.
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Like even now it's like, it's a bit slippy and
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it's a bit cold. They don't want to ride a
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bike in this. We get about two weeks a year
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where it's bike riding weather for kids really.
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Yeah. And I think Gemma always thinks I'm going through
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this checklist of how to be a perfect parent. But
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I'm just like, it's three o'clock and we haven't moved.
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Yeah.
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It's not normal.
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But to be fair, they've only been up for two hours.
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They've only just finished breakfast, Scott.
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Well, breakfast just goes into dinner. That's what we do.
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It just, every meal just, you know. Can I go
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out now? It's evening meal time.
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You do a podcast with your wife, Gemma. Where are
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you now, though? It looks like you're in a garden shed.
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Is this your own podcast booth and you also do
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a podcast with Gemma that's filmed.
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In the house? You've got proper stuff up. You've got
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foam on the ceiling.
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Yeah, so what happened was when I quit my job,
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my proper job Gemma said what was that I was
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a product designer so I had like a career and everything.
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Oh yeah of course yeah and uh I should know
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that because you told us that when you did the
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live shows of us Scott it's.
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All right glad I made an impact and so when
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I quit my job Gemma said well you'll need a
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place to write so I came home from work the
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week I'd quit and this was in the garden she'd
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had this shed put in.
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Well it's like a gift it's like you've quit your
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job oh that's nice I mean you say a gift
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and now you can't work in the house Yeah.
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It's not a gift, is it?
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It's quite a passive-aggressive gift, isn't it? Exactly.
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She's put me in a kennel, Josh, is what she's
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done to me.
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Literal doghouse.
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I couldn't get any further away. I'm so far away
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from the house that the Wi-Fi cuts out. Oh, no. Oh, my.
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So I've had the internet put in. I've had it
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all insulated.
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Nice. And in lockdown, obviously, this is where I did
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most of the Zoom gigs that we did. Yeah. of
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course yeah so.
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Yeah what are you doing heating wise scott in the
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oil oil heaters yeah mate.
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It feels apocalyptic if i'm being honest i feel like
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one of those people in in america that you know
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live off roadkill and stuff like that but yeah we
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started doing a podcast after the lockdown And then someone
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said to me the other day, which is an interesting
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and I've never considered, doing a podcast with your wife
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is great. You know what I mean? You get, you know,
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opposing views. You get the truth regularly. You get honesty.
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But the problem is now we're sort of in a
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contract to stay together.
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Yes.
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Oh, no, I don't know.
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I think people would listen more if you were going
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through a messy divorce and you met up every week
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to have a chat.
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Yeah, I think so. On Patreon.
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I wouldn't be surprised if someone does that. They do
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a fake divorce for listens.
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Yeah, do you imagine that week one who gets the
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kids little teaser trailer?
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Oh, God. Actually, it sounds quite bleak. And if it
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was a popular one, you know, people would probably go to...
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Can you go to divorces?
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Is that like one of the core things that you're
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allowed to.
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What, sitting and watching it?
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I don't know.
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That can't be true.
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That's sick, Josh. You sick fuck. Josh, you're just shuffling in.
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Rob.
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I'd judge you, Josh, and then I'd be texting you
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every five minutes going, what's happened?
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What does he want? What's she getting? How's it going? So, yeah,
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we do that. But we found, actually, it sounds weird
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to say this, but it does give us a chance
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to chat properly. It might only be like two hours
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a week, but the kids are at school and you
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feel like you actually... reconnect as a couple it's really
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weird it is weird and it's quite nice actually.
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So what about holidays when you go on holiday do
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you still do the podcast or is that a break.
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Well we try and record in advance actually but we
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have it's really weird because i sort of said to
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jemma our our time together is really bizarre like the
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other day we went mattress shopping right and we'd made
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a point have you ever bought a new mattress recently
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um not no i don't think i've ever bought a
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mattress What are you sleeping on? Do you know what?
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I've never bought a mattress.
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What are you talking about? I've never bought a mattress.
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You must have. No, I haven't.
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Well, what are you sleeping on? Well, I used to
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be in rented accommodation.
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Right.
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Oh. So that would be furnished when I was in
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my 20s and my late teens. And then my first house.
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Thinking about that, that is sleeping on a mattress that's
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been through numbers of people. I did it as well,
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but looking back now, I know needs must, but... I mean,
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imagine what's happening in a hotel bed.
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I want it every night. Oh, don't. I mean, hotels, lots.
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Don't talk about that.
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Yeah, I think worse things have happened on hotel beds
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than on student mattresses.
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Maybe not.
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Could I just say the reason I've never bought a mattress?
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I don't believe Rob's ever bought a mattress either.
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Oh, yeah, me and Lou have.
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Because the first place I bought was with Rose. And
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so Rose ordered a mattress.
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Me and Lou have been to a shop to try
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mattresses to buy one together.
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Oh, you pervs. Guess what's happened on those mattresses before, Rob?
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What I would say is don't get memory foam. You
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lose purchase.
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Well, so you've done the thing of laying. That's the
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weird thing when you see other couples laying with their
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shoes on on beds two in the afternoon. Yeah. Have
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you never done that, Josh, then, actually?
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No. Rose just picks it. No wonder you're not sleeping.
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I'm sleeping really well. I should say you should get
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a mattress topper. That is an absolute game changer.
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Have you got one of them?
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Yes, we've got one. It's good stuff.
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Sorry, Scott. We were getting bad backs, so we just
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thought we need to sort the mattress out. But yeah,
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it was that weird moment, sort of two o'clock in
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the afternoon. They say never go shopping when you're hungry.
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I think never do mattress shopping when you're tired. I
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was laying next to Gemma and we were sort of
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going like, I could go now.
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Two o'clock in the afternoon in dreams, just go.
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Yeah, I think being a parent with young kids, every
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mattress is fine. It's hard to judge it.
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This is the thing. She was like, what do you
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think of this one? I was like, they're all great.
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We're laying down. We're on our own. It's all great.
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Can you just leave us? I just want 20 minutes
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in dreams on a Sunday afternoon.
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Well, I think this is one of my business plans
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that I'm never going to do, is I don't want
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a hotel room, but sometimes.
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I just want a bed for an hour. You can
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find them in town. I'm so with you on that.
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It's when they kick you out of a hotel at
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like midday and you're just wandering like a zombie. I
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just want to lay down. I think that's a comedian problem.
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I don't know.
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Most other people aren't killing five hours in Norwich to
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do a gig for 20 minutes at nine o'clock.
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But say you're meeting your friends for dinner. Say you
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finish work at five. And you meet your friends for
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dinner at seven and you think, I might just go
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for a lie down at Josh's Mattress Emporium. Do you know,
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because what happens is you end up having.
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Three pints on your own. Yeah, exactly.
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Do you know once, this was a low moment, I
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was hungover and I was going to Plymouth match and
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I misjudged how long it would take to get to
547
00:21:32.950 --> 00:21:35.670
Paddington and I was brutally hungover and I had an
548
00:21:35.769 --> 00:21:38.690
hour to kill at Paddington at 9am on a Saturday morning.
549
00:21:39.529 --> 00:21:42.349
And I paid five pounds for the shower so that
550
00:21:42.369 --> 00:21:44.779
I could just lie on the floor for 45 minutes.
551
00:21:44.910 --> 00:21:45.619
What shower?
552
00:21:46.039 --> 00:21:49.240
That sounds like the bleakest that you in the fetal position.
553
00:21:49.619 --> 00:21:51.579
You know, you can pay a fiver for a shower
554
00:21:51.640 --> 00:21:52.240
at Paddington.
555
00:21:52.259 --> 00:21:52.900
They've got showers.
556
00:21:52.920 --> 00:21:54.779
I didn't know that. Yeah, you can pay a fiver.
557
00:21:54.839 --> 00:21:56.319
And I was just like, I could just lie on
558
00:21:56.339 --> 00:21:57.740
the floor in private here.
559
00:21:57.900 --> 00:22:01.119
That is amazing. I can imagine you just curled up
560
00:22:01.140 --> 00:22:03.319
with a little bottle of Radox. You have to bring
561
00:22:03.400 --> 00:22:05.910
into the illusion that you needed a shower. It's a
562
00:22:05.940 --> 00:22:11.660
cover story. Well, I've often thought there should be a
563
00:22:11.720 --> 00:22:15.420
cinema for tired parents. That's just called the cinema. Yeah, exactly.
564
00:22:15.440 --> 00:22:19.140
But there's no film. The music starts. The lights go down.
565
00:22:19.559 --> 00:22:22.420
Everyone just puts eye masks on, sleeps for three hours,
566
00:22:22.759 --> 00:22:23.220
comes out.
567
00:22:23.240 --> 00:22:25.819
I'm thinking about taking earbuds next time. But I think
568
00:22:25.859 --> 00:22:28.079
then it does become, again, a neglect thing where if
569
00:22:28.099 --> 00:22:29.880
you're asleep with earbuds in and your kids are in
570
00:22:29.900 --> 00:22:31.880
the cinema with you, you're not really looking after them,
571
00:22:31.980 --> 00:22:32.200
are you?
572
00:22:32.220 --> 00:22:32.420
Yeah.
573
00:22:32.809 --> 00:22:36.450
Yeah, no. You wake up and they've gone and they're
574
00:22:36.490 --> 00:22:39.299
just eating pick and mix outside. Or you could handcuff
575
00:22:39.319 --> 00:22:41.019
yourself to them and then you're just there.
576
00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:41.359
What, like.
577
00:22:42.609 --> 00:22:43.930
And then they can't go.
578
00:22:44.869 --> 00:22:46.049
Like, it's the fugitive.
579
00:22:46.509 --> 00:22:48.789
Yeah, I think that wouldn't do any long-lasting damage, would it?
580
00:22:48.799 --> 00:22:49.319
No, no.
581
00:22:49.430 --> 00:22:52.539
Anyway, I'm going to handcuff myself to you, put my
582
00:22:52.720 --> 00:22:54.440
earphones in, and I'll see you in two hours.
583
00:22:54.500 --> 00:22:55.799
It'd be like when your gran used to give you
584
00:22:55.839 --> 00:22:58.339
that sweater at Christmas that had the mittens sewn to
585
00:22:58.359 --> 00:23:02.220
the sleeves. They'd just be dragging their dad through the fire.
586
00:23:02.400 --> 00:23:03.589
That is quite good, though, for kids.
587
00:23:03.619 --> 00:23:05.589
Lou's done that before, where you don't tie it to
588
00:23:05.609 --> 00:23:06.950
the actual sleeve. You put it on a big bit
589
00:23:06.970 --> 00:23:09.569
of string that goes through the sleeves and the back.
590
00:23:09.970 --> 00:23:10.470
That's quite good.
591
00:23:10.490 --> 00:23:10.670
Wow.
592
00:23:10.869 --> 00:23:13.170
Yeah. Oh, like this? Yeah. Yeah, like a sort of
593
00:23:13.210 --> 00:23:14.690
a drawstring with mittens on the end.
594
00:23:14.710 --> 00:23:17.410
Yeah, brilliant. I was going to say, Scott, obviously you
595
00:23:17.450 --> 00:23:19.109
came and helped us get in the live show together.
596
00:23:19.130 --> 00:23:20.549
So thank you very much for that. It was very
597
00:23:20.609 --> 00:23:21.630
funny on that.
598
00:23:21.869 --> 00:23:24.259
But you told me the story about your daughter when
599
00:23:24.279 --> 00:23:26.059
she was born with a rare condition.
600
00:23:26.079 --> 00:23:29.160
Yeah. And we drove, I think it was from Hexham
601
00:23:29.200 --> 00:23:29.900
back to sort of.
602
00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:33.099
somewhere in the middle of nowhere where you told this
603
00:23:33.119 --> 00:23:35.740
story for about 50 minutes non-stop and it was i
604
00:23:35.779 --> 00:23:38.319
couldn't believe it was like it was like a sort
605
00:23:38.339 --> 00:23:40.619
of netflix drama but i wasn't in the car so
606
00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:43.359
i'm looking forward to this yeah yeah josh isn't aware
607
00:23:43.400 --> 00:23:45.039
of what what went down so do you mind telling
608
00:23:45.059 --> 00:23:45.880
us that story.
609
00:23:45.640 --> 00:23:47.440
Of course yeah there was a point i think where.
610
00:23:47.279 --> 00:23:49.099
Rob's just gonna put his earbuds in and go to
611
00:23:49.119 --> 00:23:52.220
sleep There was a point where I think Rob looked
612
00:23:52.339 --> 00:23:54.029
out at the side of the road and said whether
613
00:23:54.049 --> 00:23:56.769
he could roll out and get on the reservation.
614
00:23:56.829 --> 00:23:58.769
I think he was considering just opening the door. I
615
00:23:59.529 --> 00:24:00.180
had to roll it out.
616
00:24:00.190 --> 00:24:02.960
Can you just slow down to a walking pace, mate?
617
00:24:03.220 --> 00:24:05.650
Out. Well, no, I was mesmerised by it.
618
00:24:05.650 --> 00:24:06.529
It's an amazing story.
619
00:24:06.549 --> 00:24:09.099
But yeah, Josh hasn't heard. He wasn't in the car.
620
00:24:09.150 --> 00:24:10.579
He was getting chauffeured driven by someone else.
621
00:24:10.720 --> 00:24:11.819
Oh, come on now.
622
00:24:11.839 --> 00:24:13.140
I thought I'd jump in with Scott.
623
00:24:13.839 --> 00:24:17.619
Axel Rose, separate transport. But yeah, I mean, I'll keep
624
00:24:17.680 --> 00:24:18.380
it light.
625
00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:19.099
It was interesting.
626
00:24:19.140 --> 00:24:22.119
I mean, the thing is, I think, obviously, we're all
627
00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:24.529
parents and no one really talks about when the kid
628
00:24:24.589 --> 00:24:27.150
is ill or something happens. It seems to be like
629
00:24:27.269 --> 00:24:29.869
one area of parenting that I think people sort of
630
00:24:29.930 --> 00:24:33.289
skirt around. So when Olivia was born... I think it
631
00:24:33.490 --> 00:24:37.710
was about 10 weeks in. Gemma was with her at
632
00:24:37.769 --> 00:24:40.059
her mum's house and she had a fit and her
633
00:24:40.099 --> 00:24:42.619
lips went blue and she went limp and everything. She's
634
00:24:42.660 --> 00:24:47.019
obviously terrifying. And Gemma rang an ambulance and they came
635
00:24:47.240 --> 00:24:50.019
and they did her blood sugar, give her some adrenaline.
636
00:24:50.039 --> 00:24:53.259
So it was like Pulp Fiction. It was literally adrenaline.
637
00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:57.039
And her blood sugar was like 0.7 or something, which
638
00:24:57.059 --> 00:25:01.069
is terrible. ridiculously low what should it be it should
639
00:25:01.130 --> 00:25:04.130
be like three right three to four.
640
00:25:03.930 --> 00:25:06.059
Because i'll be honest when you said 0.7 both me
641
00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:08.970
and rob were thinking i've got literally nothing to compare
642
00:25:09.039 --> 00:25:11.880
this to i don't know what the scale is scott.
643
00:25:11.900 --> 00:25:14.740
Yeah but it's amazing how like you are now like
644
00:25:14.779 --> 00:25:18.819
a blood sugar level expert because of what your daughter.
645
00:25:18.140 --> 00:25:21.660
Went through yeah not 0.7 bloody years ago i'd be
646
00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:25.460
like oh bloody nightmare mate 0.7 frantically googling what it
647
00:25:25.500 --> 00:25:27.440
should or shouldn't be Yeah.
648
00:25:27.480 --> 00:25:30.259
I'm glad you weren't the doctors. You'd have been like, yeah, 0.7, normal.
649
00:25:30.500 --> 00:25:31.299
I'll see you next week.
650
00:25:31.660 --> 00:25:34.869
It's better than 0.6. That's what I've always said. You
651
00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:37.289
don't want to hit one. That's when it gets problematic.
652
00:25:37.309 --> 00:25:38.910
Do you want it too high? Is that too high?
653
00:25:38.930 --> 00:25:39.849
Can it go too high?
654
00:25:39.990 --> 00:25:42.750
Well, the weird thing was she'd been sleeping really well.
655
00:25:43.009 --> 00:25:45.250
So everyone was like, oh, you've got an amazing baby there.
656
00:25:45.329 --> 00:25:48.349
She sleeps through the night. And we're like, yeah, she's
657
00:25:48.390 --> 00:25:51.789
got no sugar in her brain, mate. That's what we're like. Oh, no.
658
00:25:52.009 --> 00:25:54.430
So the picture starts to come in and you're like, right.
659
00:25:54.470 --> 00:25:57.880
So they took her to hospital and they basically put
660
00:25:57.920 --> 00:26:00.339
us on a ward and no one really knew what
661
00:26:00.380 --> 00:26:02.289
was going on. So we were sort of sat there
662
00:26:02.309 --> 00:26:04.150
just going, I don't know what this is. Both of
663
00:26:04.210 --> 00:26:07.250
us just really confused, sort of sitting there. But she'd
664
00:26:07.289 --> 00:26:09.039
got a bit better. Were you scared at this point?
665
00:26:09.190 --> 00:26:11.099
We were shitting ourselves, yeah. I was working in the
666
00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:13.160
day job, so I came home. Gemma was in hospital.
667
00:26:13.380 --> 00:26:16.500
But it's like, it's not fear as much. It's like confusion,
668
00:26:16.519 --> 00:26:18.839
because you're like, you've had your baby, and you know
669
00:26:18.859 --> 00:26:21.660
what it's like. Everyone's round, they're giving you presents, we've
670
00:26:21.680 --> 00:26:23.839
got all the bedroom done, and they're all like, this
671
00:26:23.900 --> 00:26:26.089
is an amazing moment, and then this sort of bomb
672
00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:27.269
goes off, and you're like.
673
00:26:27.289 --> 00:26:28.990
And you didn't realise you meant to give your baby
674
00:26:29.009 --> 00:26:30.349
a crunchy every day, did you?
675
00:26:30.410 --> 00:26:32.910
Well, if I'd have known, I'd have had a selection
676
00:26:32.950 --> 00:26:34.930
box all year round, just sort of.
677
00:26:35.289 --> 00:26:37.809
I'd have been whisking up crunchies, rubbing them in the gums.
678
00:26:39.559 --> 00:26:41.220
And how old was she at this point in the score?
679
00:26:41.420 --> 00:26:43.279
At 10 weeks. Fuck, mate. 10 weeks.
680
00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:46.940
And then, obviously, the paramedics came and gave her the insulin.
681
00:26:47.019 --> 00:26:49.140
And then she was stable and fine. But you was
682
00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:50.849
at the hospital for checks. Yeah, so we went into
683
00:26:50.869 --> 00:26:51.440
the hospital.
684
00:26:51.609 --> 00:26:54.769
And then they sort of kept us in overnight and
685
00:26:55.049 --> 00:26:58.450
sent her back home. They said, oh, it's just temporary hypoglycemia.
686
00:26:58.650 --> 00:27:01.769
this happens with children as their bodies grow, that it's
687
00:27:01.809 --> 00:27:04.210
just that their bodies adjust in and it's just something
688
00:27:04.230 --> 00:27:07.259
we see it quite often. And so we were like, okay, right. Well,
689
00:27:07.460 --> 00:27:10.299
we've shit ourselves, but let's just go home. So we
690
00:27:10.339 --> 00:27:14.130
went home and about three, four days later, it happened again.
691
00:27:14.690 --> 00:27:15.089
Right.
692
00:27:15.410 --> 00:27:17.029
So I remember I was at work and it was
693
00:27:17.069 --> 00:27:19.269
at this moment where you were like, you know, sometimes
694
00:27:19.470 --> 00:27:21.509
there's a weird thing with parents. And I think even
695
00:27:21.529 --> 00:27:24.309
with other people is you, you know, something's wrong, but
696
00:27:24.349 --> 00:27:25.670
you don't want to go to hospital because you don't
697
00:27:25.690 --> 00:27:27.670
want to have it confirmed. Do you get what I mean?
698
00:27:27.710 --> 00:27:28.009
Yeah.
699
00:27:28.069 --> 00:27:30.650
You'd rather live in the denial of it than the reality.
700
00:27:31.029 --> 00:27:34.390
It's like when you're Googling for the illness and basically
701
00:27:34.410 --> 00:27:36.390
you just find the one that's the good news and
702
00:27:36.410 --> 00:27:37.569
then you go, that's the right one.
703
00:27:37.809 --> 00:27:39.450
Yeah, that's the right one. I only know all the
704
00:27:39.529 --> 00:27:40.329
others that tell me.
705
00:27:40.369 --> 00:27:42.640
Yeah, that lump might be muscle definition, actually. Yeah.
706
00:27:42.680 --> 00:27:45.819
Probably. Been that at the gym a lot. Yeah, you're
707
00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:48.339
praying that it's a knot in your sweater. That's what
708
00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:52.279
it is. Just a knot in my sweater. That's all
709
00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:53.950
that is. So they took us into hospital and they
710
00:27:53.970 --> 00:27:55.529
stuck us on this ward, sent us home. And then
711
00:27:55.549 --> 00:27:57.470
it happened again. And me and Gemma were like, right,
712
00:27:57.589 --> 00:27:59.970
we took her in this time. And basically they said,
713
00:28:00.269 --> 00:28:02.450
there's something really wrong here. So they put us on
714
00:28:02.490 --> 00:28:05.579
the ward and they put an NG tube down her throat.
715
00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:08.400
So there's this thing where they put like a tube in.
716
00:28:08.460 --> 00:28:09.740
Have you seen it? When it goes up through the
717
00:28:09.799 --> 00:28:11.380
nose and into that.
718
00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:13.900
And so then is she conscious at this point? So yeah,
719
00:28:13.920 --> 00:28:14.599
she's conscious.
720
00:28:14.619 --> 00:28:17.230
They did. So they did a load of tests on her.
721
00:28:17.250 --> 00:28:19.089
So I remember him taking her away to do this
722
00:28:19.230 --> 00:28:21.109
spinal test. And I was like, I don't know what
723
00:28:21.130 --> 00:28:24.809
they're doing. This is just awful. This is awful, awful.
724
00:28:25.349 --> 00:28:26.970
And they still didn't know what it was. So their
725
00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:29.700
idea to keep her blood sugar up was to basically
726
00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:32.680
force feed her. So Gemma was about to breastfeed, but
727
00:28:32.700 --> 00:28:35.079
she never got a chance with Olivia because they'd put
728
00:28:35.099 --> 00:28:37.869
this NG tube in and were just feeding her high
729
00:28:38.210 --> 00:28:42.049
calorific feed to try and keep her sugar up. And
730
00:28:42.089 --> 00:28:45.930
what would happen is they'd feed her till she puked, basically. Oh,
731
00:28:45.970 --> 00:28:48.039
my God. It was awful. And then they kept testing
732
00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:50.440
her sugar. They kept pricking her heel. So the poor
733
00:28:50.500 --> 00:28:54.279
kid was being force-fed and having her heel stabbed. Jesus, what?
734
00:28:54.380 --> 00:28:56.609
It was like some sort of evil spa weekend.
735
00:28:56.630 --> 00:28:57.549
Do you know what I mean?
736
00:28:57.569 --> 00:29:00.970
It was like... Sort of bizarre purging, like being overfed
737
00:29:01.009 --> 00:29:03.049
and having your heel pricked. How often were they pricking
738
00:29:03.089 --> 00:29:05.130
her heel then? I think it was like every hour
739
00:29:05.390 --> 00:29:08.119
at one point. So she had little holes in her heel.
740
00:29:08.450 --> 00:29:11.160
So then they said, we don't really know what it is.
741
00:29:11.220 --> 00:29:12.779
So they would keep feeding it. We were in there
742
00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:16.799
for like a week, two weeks. This was August 2020. Yeah.
743
00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:18.940
While they were trying to establish and do tests.
744
00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:24.160
So this was August 2020? 2010. 2010. 2010. Oh, sorry. Sorry, yeah, 2010.
745
00:29:24.160 --> 00:29:27.349
So it's your eldest. Yeah, yeah, so 2010. And then
746
00:29:27.369 --> 00:29:28.829
they were like, we don't really know what it is.
747
00:29:29.009 --> 00:29:31.390
And so they kept us in. And then they brought
748
00:29:31.569 --> 00:29:34.549
in like a specialist. Because I think what happened was,
749
00:29:34.690 --> 00:29:37.589
that was it. I'm not very confrontational at all. And
750
00:29:37.609 --> 00:29:39.650
you sort of trust in the doctors that are going
751
00:29:39.670 --> 00:29:41.180
to do it. but there was a point where i
752
00:29:41.220 --> 00:29:44.279
was like they tried sending us home again with a
753
00:29:44.319 --> 00:29:46.880
machine to feed us we had this like machine set
754
00:29:46.940 --> 00:29:49.319
up in a bedroom that was feeding her and all
755
00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:51.430
this sort of stuff And they were sort of letting
756
00:29:51.450 --> 00:29:52.970
us deal with it. And I remember going into the
757
00:29:53.009 --> 00:29:56.170
doctor and I even put on a really shit cheap
758
00:29:56.250 --> 00:30:00.410
suit from Burton's menswear to be like, this will make
759
00:30:00.450 --> 00:30:01.049
the difference.
760
00:30:01.069 --> 00:30:03.450
They'll treat me differently if I wear a suit.
761
00:30:03.569 --> 00:30:05.789
You know what I mean? I remember that's come through
762
00:30:05.809 --> 00:30:07.630
from my dad that if you want anything doing.
763
00:30:07.670 --> 00:30:08.359
Wear a tie.
764
00:30:08.380 --> 00:30:12.259
Do you know what I mean? Going into Curry's trying
765
00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:14.079
to get a discount because he's got a tie on.
766
00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:17.160
Wearing the tie, mate.
767
00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:19.839
So I went in there and I said, look, this
768
00:30:19.900 --> 00:30:22.119
needs to, you know, we can't be sent home again.
769
00:30:22.140 --> 00:30:24.420
I don't know what you're doing, but I just feel like,
770
00:30:24.460 --> 00:30:26.400
you know, you're putting my daughter's life at risk here
771
00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:29.000
with low blood sugar. There could be all sorts of
772
00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:31.619
complications we don't even know about that have already happened
773
00:30:32.079 --> 00:30:34.440
because she keeps trying to send us home. And they
774
00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:37.119
brought in this specialist woman who was a dietician. And
775
00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:39.069
she said, I think I know what this is. This
776
00:30:39.119 --> 00:30:43.529
is like a rare genetic disorder called hyperinsulinism. And we
777
00:30:43.589 --> 00:30:46.309
never heard of this, but it's basically the opposite of diabetes.
778
00:30:47.650 --> 00:30:51.089
So with diabetes, obviously the sugars just rocket and they
779
00:30:51.109 --> 00:30:55.299
have to have insulin. What Olivia had was sugars would plummet.
780
00:30:55.579 --> 00:30:58.480
So she had too much insulin. So her pancreas was
781
00:30:58.500 --> 00:31:01.509
just pumping insulin constantly into her body.
782
00:31:01.630 --> 00:31:02.089
Right.
783
00:31:02.250 --> 00:31:04.809
So no matter what they did with the feeding, because
784
00:31:04.829 --> 00:31:06.369
it was so funny when the expert came in, they
785
00:31:06.390 --> 00:31:08.009
were like, none of this will make any difference.
786
00:31:08.430 --> 00:31:09.049
Oh, really?
787
00:31:09.069 --> 00:31:11.619
Yeah. We were like, oh my God. Because they thought
788
00:31:11.670 --> 00:31:13.920
it was transient and it might change. Because we were
789
00:31:13.940 --> 00:31:16.539
looking at these figures. Every time a sugar went to two,
790
00:31:16.579 --> 00:31:18.900
we were like, oh yes, this is how obsessed we
791
00:31:18.940 --> 00:31:22.039
got with it. It was like Edinburgh reviews. Do you
792
00:31:22.059 --> 00:31:22.440
know what I mean?
793
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:22.740
Yeah.
794
00:31:23.809 --> 00:31:26.430
I'm reading and going, she's got a 2.3. Come on.
795
00:31:26.509 --> 00:31:30.900
We've got the Guardian in on Wednesday. We're going for
796
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:31.359
a four.
797
00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:33.259
And you've been doing that for like two, three weeks
798
00:31:33.299 --> 00:31:39.279
and it was pointless. And what's it called?
799
00:31:39.380 --> 00:31:43.460
Hyperinsulinism, CHI it is. And then they said, oh, it's
800
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:45.980
one in like 300,000, this is.
801
00:31:46.279 --> 00:31:47.400
This is really rare.
802
00:31:47.460 --> 00:31:50.200
Fucking hell. There's a spike in Nottingham. I don't know
803
00:31:50.240 --> 00:31:52.119
why this is. There seems to be a lot of
804
00:31:52.180 --> 00:31:55.329
children in our area who've got it. Have you been
805
00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:59.069
shagging around, Scott? I'd love to say so. I mean, Josh,
806
00:31:59.130 --> 00:32:00.849
you have asked me that question and you're looking at
807
00:32:00.910 --> 00:32:03.009
a man in a shed. So I would say, I
808
00:32:03.450 --> 00:32:06.369
would hazard a guess that probably not. It might be Gemma.
809
00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:11.079
it's not on my side of the genes that's for
810
00:32:11.099 --> 00:32:12.859
sure but so they said oh yeah it's a rare
811
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:15.619
genetic disorder and so basically they brought this expert in
812
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:17.759
and what happened was i didn't i didn't know this
813
00:32:17.880 --> 00:32:20.500
i've been carrying it all my life oh really this
814
00:32:20.539 --> 00:32:24.259
gene yeah so really and what should normally happen.
815
00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:26.900
So suddenly my joke's looking a bit more a bit
816
00:32:26.920 --> 00:32:28.900
more accurate scott if this came from.
817
00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:31.319
Well it's gone through the generations so they were like
818
00:32:31.700 --> 00:32:34.460
over the years they were saying like it might be
819
00:32:34.500 --> 00:32:36.329
like you know cot death It was a bit like
820
00:32:36.549 --> 00:32:40.710
when children wouldn't wake up. Looking back through my family history,
821
00:32:40.990 --> 00:32:43.170
there may have been instances of that that were related
822
00:32:43.349 --> 00:32:45.970
not to cot death, but to low blood sugar. Right.
823
00:32:46.029 --> 00:32:47.089
And it just got written off as cot death.
824
00:32:47.109 --> 00:32:48.619
And it got written off. And they said, oh, what
825
00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:52.400
should normally happen is your gene should override Gemma's genes.
826
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:56.079
It should be dominant. And it should have, sorry, what
827
00:32:56.099 --> 00:32:58.920
should happen? It should have been cancelled out for whatever
828
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:01.630
reason in the genetics. It should be just still dormant.
829
00:33:01.650 --> 00:33:03.970
He should have been dormant, and that's it. But for
830
00:33:04.029 --> 00:33:07.230
some reason, Gemma's genes didn't silence it, and it became
831
00:33:07.309 --> 00:33:08.369
prevalent in Olivia.
832
00:33:08.390 --> 00:33:09.390
Right.
833
00:33:09.430 --> 00:33:11.490
So it's Gemma's fault, is that what you're saying? I
834
00:33:11.549 --> 00:33:12.059
think it is.
835
00:33:12.089 --> 00:33:17.470
LAUGHTER You know what I mean?
836
00:33:17.619 --> 00:33:20.079
I don't take the bin out once, and she gives
837
00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:26.029
me a child with low blood sugar. LAUGHTER It's brutal,
838
00:33:26.049 --> 00:33:27.509
isn't it? Do you know what I mean? Just because
839
00:33:27.549 --> 00:33:28.710
I can't stack a dishwasher.
840
00:33:29.109 --> 00:33:31.410
Seriously, did you feel like any guilt, even though you
841
00:33:31.430 --> 00:33:33.890
had no control over it? But if you've been told that,
842
00:33:34.309 --> 00:33:35.730
I'd feel like, oh, it's my fault.
843
00:33:35.789 --> 00:33:38.099
Honestly, there was moments where I was just like... Which
844
00:33:38.130 --> 00:33:40.319
is ridiculous, because you can't help it. It's the genes
845
00:33:40.390 --> 00:33:42.200
of your genes. Well, yeah, they gave us gene therapy.
846
00:33:42.579 --> 00:33:44.079
As part of the thing, we had this gene therapy,
847
00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:46.079
and they were like... Because we were like, this affects
848
00:33:46.140 --> 00:33:48.960
everything going forward. More children, do you know what I mean?
849
00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:50.900
I had to ring my brother and say, you need
850
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:53.440
to go for a blood test, mate. oh god oh
851
00:33:53.460 --> 00:33:55.579
my god even his girlfriend were considering like you know
852
00:33:55.599 --> 00:33:57.640
having family well you need to know what this is
853
00:33:57.660 --> 00:33:59.980
because this is a nightmare you could be opening yourself
854
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:00.519
up to this.
855
00:34:00.500 --> 00:34:04.519
Is a bloody nightmare that's the biggest understatement i'm having
856
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:07.420
a bloody nightmare my child's been in hospital for two
857
00:34:07.460 --> 00:34:10.199
weeks so when you're finding this how long have you
858
00:34:10.219 --> 00:34:11.059
been in the hospital we.
859
00:34:10.980 --> 00:34:13.280
Was in the hospital for three weeks at that point
860
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:15.559
right 24 hours a day are you in there yeah
861
00:34:15.579 --> 00:34:17.639
so what happened was we were trying to feed and
862
00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:19.570
so so they brought in this expert and she He
863
00:34:19.610 --> 00:34:23.090
was like, this is genetic, this. So they basically brought
864
00:34:23.190 --> 00:34:27.050
in someone, contacted Manchester Children's Hospital. I didn't know this
865
00:34:27.110 --> 00:34:31.610
at all. It's a specialist center in CHI. So they
866
00:34:31.659 --> 00:34:34.260
put money into rare genetic disorders and this was one
867
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:36.599
of them. And we didn't realize what we were getting
868
00:34:36.619 --> 00:34:39.260
into because it's one of the highest risk ones. Like
869
00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:43.039
literally kids can drop dead. They can have brain damage.
870
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:46.440
They can be blind. So how come Manchester have done that?
871
00:34:46.659 --> 00:34:49.070
I think it was a government initiative when they were like,
872
00:34:49.110 --> 00:34:52.309
this is becoming a, like there was lots of children
873
00:34:52.409 --> 00:34:56.679
presenting with this, like from mid nineties to mid two thousands. And, and,
874
00:34:57.070 --> 00:34:58.949
No one knew what it was. So they brought in
875
00:34:58.989 --> 00:35:02.190
this expert and she was like, yeah, it's congenital. And
876
00:35:02.510 --> 00:35:04.159
what we need to do is we need to get
877
00:35:04.179 --> 00:35:07.380
Olivia scanned to find out. So there was two types.
878
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:09.619
And by this time, by the way, we'd been in
879
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:14.199
QMC for about six, seven weeks on this holding pattern,
880
00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:18.150
just feeding, pricking a heel, feeding, pricking her heel and
881
00:35:18.170 --> 00:35:20.429
we were given we're having to give her medication because
882
00:35:20.449 --> 00:35:23.409
she was getting reflux the poor kid so she was
883
00:35:23.449 --> 00:35:25.409
getting all this reflux she's like a dad like I
884
00:35:25.449 --> 00:35:28.360
can't survive without her any now so that's hereditary.
885
00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:29.619
And are you picking her up at this point or
886
00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:31.260
is she just in the bed the whole time in
887
00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:31.639
the car.
888
00:35:31.539 --> 00:35:33.440
She's in the bed all the time and they were
889
00:35:33.460 --> 00:35:35.590
telling us they were like we'll look after her you
890
00:35:35.650 --> 00:35:37.690
and Gemma just get on with what you're doing and
891
00:35:37.710 --> 00:35:39.050
me and Gemma looked at each other and were like
892
00:35:39.130 --> 00:35:41.989
there's no way we're leaving this hospital one of us
893
00:35:42.050 --> 00:35:44.409
is going to be here all the time so the
894
00:35:44.469 --> 00:35:47.929
whole day was basically i'd go to work jemma would
895
00:35:48.030 --> 00:35:50.769
sit by her bed holding her hand through the the
896
00:35:50.809 --> 00:35:53.510
bars and we'd put like a mobile above a cot
897
00:35:53.570 --> 00:35:56.280
and stuff and then i would come back in after
898
00:35:56.320 --> 00:35:59.219
a full day's work and grab a ready meal we'd
899
00:35:59.340 --> 00:36:01.980
swap and then i'd sit on the zed bed watch
900
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:05.420
i'm a celebrity have a little ready meal and then
901
00:36:05.460 --> 00:36:07.139
hold their hand for the car. And we slept there
902
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:11.039
like for seven weeks, eight weeks in the hospital. Fuck.
903
00:36:11.059 --> 00:36:13.940
Listening to like the beeps and the machines that was
904
00:36:13.980 --> 00:36:15.619
like sending you to sleep on a night. Cause they
905
00:36:15.659 --> 00:36:18.320
were like, go home. And I don't think people get,
906
00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:20.650
it was our first kid. Yeah. And I'm like, I'm
907
00:36:20.670 --> 00:36:22.929
not going. If it was your second, fuck it. Yeah.
908
00:36:23.150 --> 00:36:23.489
Yeah.
909
00:36:25.340 --> 00:36:27.219
Third, ring me in two mums. If it was a
910
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:29.880
second mate, I'd have left him in the reception at
911
00:36:29.940 --> 00:36:31.340
A & E. I'd have gone. I wouldn't even have
912
00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:34.340
stopped the car. But it's like that moment where you
913
00:36:34.389 --> 00:36:36.809
go like, you know, I'm going to stay with this kid.
914
00:36:37.110 --> 00:36:39.150
And so we sort of, we slept there pretty much.
915
00:36:39.210 --> 00:36:41.789
We lived in the hospital and it got to the
916
00:36:41.829 --> 00:36:44.530
point where we were doing the heel pricks and all that.
917
00:36:44.849 --> 00:36:45.929
Fucking hell.
918
00:36:45.949 --> 00:36:48.130
We had a machine that we were doing, and I
919
00:36:48.179 --> 00:36:50.480
was writing him in a book, and then we were
920
00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:53.280
giving her a reflux meds and all this lot. It
921
00:36:53.340 --> 00:36:59.239
was really surreal that we actually became institutionalized. And I
922
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:02.809
remember arriving after work, and from the road in Nottingham,
923
00:37:02.829 --> 00:37:04.949
you can see QMC, and you can see the kids'
924
00:37:05.030 --> 00:37:08.489
children's ward. And Gemma's mum had bought her, you know,
925
00:37:08.510 --> 00:37:10.989
one of those boo-boo seats they can sit up in, babies.
926
00:37:11.010 --> 00:37:11.269
Yeah.
927
00:37:11.449 --> 00:37:15.679
You know, those molded seats, spongy seats. And I remember
928
00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:17.840
I knew because I could see her in the window.
929
00:37:18.280 --> 00:37:20.099
So it was like a weird advent calendar. So as
930
00:37:20.139 --> 00:37:22.099
I came into the car park, she was in the
931
00:37:22.139 --> 00:37:24.969
window waiting for me. Just sat there like that. Just
932
00:37:25.030 --> 00:37:28.210
looking out the window in a boo-boo seat. Just like
933
00:37:28.250 --> 00:37:30.210
a little Yoda. Just our little budda.
934
00:37:30.949 --> 00:37:32.610
And yeah, we.
935
00:37:32.510 --> 00:37:35.690
Did, we did seven. And one day I remember they said,
936
00:37:35.710 --> 00:37:37.320
you've got to get out of the hospital. And me
937
00:37:37.340 --> 00:37:39.719
and Gemma walked to a Nando's, which was like on
938
00:37:39.739 --> 00:37:42.119
a retail park. It was the saddest thing ever. And
939
00:37:42.139 --> 00:37:44.340
walked to this Nando's and we sort of sat there
940
00:37:44.619 --> 00:37:46.980
and eating chicken and we couldn't, we had to go out.
941
00:37:47.059 --> 00:37:49.679
We were like, nah, this is not normal. Can't just
942
00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:51.530
sit here. What are we going to talk about? Do
943
00:37:51.550 --> 00:37:54.190
you know what I mean? Oh, yeah. What should we do?
944
00:37:54.210 --> 00:37:56.769
You know what I mean? You can't. So in the end,
945
00:37:56.849 --> 00:37:58.389
they said, right, you're going to have to go for
946
00:37:58.409 --> 00:38:01.230
this scan because there's two types. And I'll try and
947
00:38:01.429 --> 00:38:03.809
not bore you with this. There's like two versions of
948
00:38:03.829 --> 00:38:07.480
this disease. It's in the pancreas, but one which is diffuse,
949
00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:11.880
which means the whole pancreas is defective. Right. So the
950
00:38:11.940 --> 00:38:15.340
whole pancreas is pumping out insulin. That one is incurable.
951
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:16.099
Right.
952
00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:19.320
So what would that mean? That would mean a lifetime
953
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:24.159
of medication for your kid. Or it would mean that
954
00:38:24.420 --> 00:38:26.019
she'd have to have a pancreatomy. So we'd have to
955
00:38:26.059 --> 00:38:27.980
have it removed and she'd be diabetic for the rest
956
00:38:28.019 --> 00:38:31.400
of her life. That one is pretty much like the
957
00:38:31.460 --> 00:38:34.420
worst case scenario. The other one is focal, which means
958
00:38:34.460 --> 00:38:37.559
it's like a little lesion in the pancreas. like a
959
00:38:37.599 --> 00:38:41.429
little tumor, basically. And they said, depending on where that is,
960
00:38:41.949 --> 00:38:45.449
they can operate, right? Depending on where it is. And, oh,
961
00:38:45.469 --> 00:38:47.809
I've just remembered something I remember telling you as well
962
00:38:47.849 --> 00:38:51.429
is when we were about to go to Manchester, they
963
00:38:51.449 --> 00:38:53.650
were having to give her this medication because it was
964
00:38:53.690 --> 00:38:56.750
affecting her kidney function, these drugs she was on. And
965
00:38:56.809 --> 00:38:58.679
I remember the doctor sat us down one day and
966
00:38:58.719 --> 00:38:59.840
he says, oh, we're going to have to give you
967
00:38:59.860 --> 00:39:02.840
this extra medication because it's affecting the kidney function. And
968
00:39:02.860 --> 00:39:04.539
he was like, there is a few side effects. And
969
00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:06.159
I remember we sat in this office. I was like,
970
00:39:06.219 --> 00:39:07.579
oh God, what's it going to be? I was like,
971
00:39:07.619 --> 00:39:09.280
you know, is it going to affect her heart? He says,
972
00:39:09.300 --> 00:39:11.780
the thing is she will put on more weight. We
973
00:39:11.800 --> 00:39:14.050
were like, okay, that's fine. He says she will be
974
00:39:14.090 --> 00:39:16.250
a bit dehydrated. We're like, fine. And he went, yeah,
975
00:39:16.429 --> 00:39:21.210
and she's going to get hairy. When a doctor says
976
00:39:21.250 --> 00:39:23.269
your kid's going to get hairy and she was like
977
00:39:23.309 --> 00:39:29.530
a little Ewok, mate. It was like a little fur baby.
978
00:39:29.570 --> 00:39:34.570
I didn't know where the front was. Like having a
979
00:39:34.630 --> 00:39:38.730
coconut in her mouth. Where's her mouth gone? And it
980
00:39:38.750 --> 00:39:41.349
went from her hair all the way into her eyebrows.
981
00:39:41.409 --> 00:39:42.670
Like it was just everywhere.
982
00:39:42.869 --> 00:39:44.989
She had hair on her cheeks and everything.
983
00:39:45.010 --> 00:39:47.909
Really? Yeah, I remember because we couldn't go anywhere. Sorry
984
00:39:47.929 --> 00:39:48.880
to jump back and forth.
985
00:39:48.909 --> 00:39:50.340
You can't shave a baby, can you?
986
00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:55.840
You can't shave a baby, not in public. So basically
987
00:39:55.940 --> 00:39:57.699
all our day, because we couldn't go out either. We
988
00:39:57.719 --> 00:39:59.579
were just in this hospital and she had one of
989
00:39:59.619 --> 00:40:01.579
those little things she could sit in, you know, those
990
00:40:01.699 --> 00:40:04.340
like bumble things you pull your kid around in. And
991
00:40:04.389 --> 00:40:06.590
all I did was just pull around a ward. This
992
00:40:06.619 --> 00:40:10.389
was my life. Seven weeks dragging a hairy baby around
993
00:40:10.489 --> 00:40:13.469
a ward. It was amazing. You don't expect the doctors
994
00:40:13.489 --> 00:40:16.130
to say hairy. You don't. And when they say hairy,
995
00:40:16.250 --> 00:40:17.110
it was just like, wow.
996
00:40:17.489 --> 00:40:19.710
She won best in show at Crufts, though, that year, though,
997
00:40:19.730 --> 00:40:20.130
didn't she?
998
00:40:20.389 --> 00:40:21.190
Bitly groomed.
999
00:40:21.210 --> 00:40:23.860
Also, as well, like, the first question is how hairy?
1000
00:40:23.909 --> 00:40:27.199
Are we going to have to plait it? Or is
1001
00:40:27.260 --> 00:40:30.199
it just a covering? Also, I think you've got those
1002
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:34.260
in the wrong order. I think the priority-wise, dehydrated isn't
1003
00:40:34.300 --> 00:40:34.840
the headline.
1004
00:40:35.059 --> 00:40:36.559
Do you know what I mean? You've got to lead
1005
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:39.389
with Harry. You know, where are we talking on the scale?
1006
00:40:39.449 --> 00:40:41.710
I mean, are we going from me at 14 with
1007
00:40:41.750 --> 00:40:43.750
a little top lip or are we going Bill Oddie?
1008
00:40:44.050 --> 00:40:47.480
Where are we? Where are we on the hair scale?
1009
00:40:48.119 --> 00:40:49.579
So they said, right, you're going to have to go
1010
00:40:49.619 --> 00:40:51.840
for this scalp. Because we're in this holding pattern. We
1011
00:40:51.860 --> 00:40:54.599
were putting pressure on, just to recap. We were putting
1012
00:40:54.619 --> 00:40:56.840
pressure on. We were getting pissed off. Because it's not
1013
00:40:56.900 --> 00:40:59.679
doing anything. It's just keeping it. We're pricking this kid's
1014
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:02.710
heel every single day. We're not sleeping. We were both
1015
00:41:02.829 --> 00:41:06.309
falling apart. Gemma drove the car into a wall. I
1016
00:41:06.349 --> 00:41:07.690
remembered that.
1017
00:41:07.710 --> 00:41:08.250
By accident?
1018
00:41:08.309 --> 00:41:11.769
Yeah, yeah. Oh, good. Because we were both just a shell.
1019
00:41:11.789 --> 00:41:14.360
We both lost loads of weight. I tell you, that's
1020
00:41:14.460 --> 00:41:17.460
one good thing. Childhood illness. God, you look good by
1021
00:41:17.480 --> 00:41:23.139
the end, mate. I have my cheekbones back. I looked beautiful.
1022
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:26.420
I was a shell of a man and broken, but
1023
00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:28.079
I was a 32 waist.
1024
00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:31.619
Who's that fit guy with the hairy child walking past
1025
00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:32.320
me in the park?
1026
00:41:33.289 --> 00:41:35.449
It was a big guy with the dark eyes, the
1027
00:41:35.489 --> 00:41:40.030
hairy child and the thousand yard stare. He was gorgeous.
1028
00:41:41.369 --> 00:41:43.889
And the other thing as well is because, yeah, we
1029
00:41:43.909 --> 00:41:45.760
were like, this is something's got to be done here.
1030
00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:48.340
So we put pressure on him and they contacted Manchester
1031
00:41:48.380 --> 00:41:50.239
and Manchester was like, right, we've got a bed for
1032
00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:54.179
you at Manchester Children's Hospital. We're going to get you scanned.
1033
00:41:54.199 --> 00:41:56.920
We're going to find out what, if this is diffused
1034
00:41:57.059 --> 00:42:01.190
or focal. And then was the next big moment when
1035
00:42:01.590 --> 00:42:06.139
the scan is in Berlin. What? Yeah. Who's doing it?
1036
00:42:06.179 --> 00:42:10.280
David Bowie? What's going on there? It's just an eccentric
1037
00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:14.429
guy in a shed called Klaus. They said, we're going
1038
00:42:14.449 --> 00:42:16.630
to do this scan in Berlin. There's only two machines
1039
00:42:16.690 --> 00:42:21.650
in the world, right? Blimey. And they said, Berlin or Philadelphia.
1040
00:42:21.909 --> 00:42:25.260
And I was like, Philadelphia would be great. Yeah. I
1041
00:42:26.059 --> 00:42:29.659
love Rocky. And they were like, this is the NHS, mate.
1042
00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:32.880
You're going Berlin. Berlin. I mean, I've been to Berlin.
1043
00:42:32.900 --> 00:42:34.940
I had a fantastic time, Scott, but I imagine we
1044
00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:36.800
have very different experiences.
1045
00:42:36.840 --> 00:42:39.960
Well, here's the really weird thing, though, is that Gemma's
1046
00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:43.550
fluent in German. She's a language teacher. so I felt
1047
00:42:43.590 --> 00:42:45.750
we had an in in Berlin yeah that's good we
1048
00:42:45.769 --> 00:42:48.449
were treated differently because Gemma just went in just like
1049
00:42:48.570 --> 00:42:50.969
spoke to him right yeah yeah chatted and I was
1050
00:42:51.030 --> 00:42:53.119
confused I look German but I.
1051
00:42:53.099 --> 00:42:55.219
Can't oh god you must have felt so out of
1052
00:42:55.239 --> 00:42:55.719
the loop so now.
1053
00:42:55.659 --> 00:42:58.219
I'm panicking about my daughter and there's a language barrier
1054
00:42:58.360 --> 00:42:58.860
nice one.
1055
00:43:01.940 --> 00:43:03.980
Plus, it was before the fall of the wall, wasn't it?
1056
00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:06.480
So we actually had to get into East Germany just to.
1057
00:43:06.500 --> 00:43:09.460
We had to get David Hasselhoff to smuggle this hairy
1058
00:43:09.500 --> 00:43:10.739
baby in his leather jacket.
1059
00:43:11.449 --> 00:43:14.429
How quickly, after they told you Berlin, did you Google
1060
00:43:14.469 --> 00:43:16.469
the German word for focal and diffuse?
1061
00:43:17.030 --> 00:43:19.750
Well, the really weird thing was, is they said to us, right,
1062
00:43:19.769 --> 00:43:22.429
we're going to fly you out. It's on a private jet. Oh.
1063
00:43:24.159 --> 00:43:26.659
This is the thing that blew my mind. On a
1064
00:43:26.920 --> 00:43:31.039
little propeller jet. So we went to Manchester and I
1065
00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:33.599
didn't know this. In the airport, there's a separate bit
1066
00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:37.590
and it's like a private airport, Manchester airport. I've never
1067
00:43:37.630 --> 00:43:39.530
got a private jet, but I've heard that. It's like
1068
00:43:39.570 --> 00:43:41.889
a shakes fly from there. And as we pulled in,
1069
00:43:42.050 --> 00:43:45.329
on the tarmac was the WWE plane because there was
1070
00:43:45.429 --> 00:43:48.869
a big thing at the arena that weekend. So we're
1071
00:43:48.909 --> 00:43:52.699
sat in this lounge and Triple H just walks past. No.
1072
00:43:53.960 --> 00:43:56.400
Who's the hairy baby? Bring her along. Do you know
1073
00:43:56.420 --> 00:43:56.820
what I mean?
1074
00:43:56.840 --> 00:43:57.739
It was like.
1075
00:43:57.559 --> 00:43:59.699
Triple H walked past and everything. And I was like,
1076
00:43:59.739 --> 00:44:02.239
this is surreal. So we're sat there in this lounge,
1077
00:44:02.340 --> 00:44:04.610
this Sky Lounge. And at this point, are you still
1078
00:44:04.670 --> 00:44:05.369
really worried?
1079
00:44:05.389 --> 00:44:05.809
Of course, yeah.
1080
00:44:05.929 --> 00:44:07.010
Or are you reassured?
1081
00:44:07.190 --> 00:44:08.880
No, no, he's loving it. He's seen Triple H.
1082
00:44:08.869 --> 00:44:10.610
He's buzzing. No, no, no, but I mean... Is there
1083
00:44:10.630 --> 00:44:12.929
like a reassurance.
1084
00:44:12.030 --> 00:44:13.920
By this point that they're on top of it?
1085
00:44:13.929 --> 00:44:16.880
Well, what this was, was I think we were, in
1086
00:44:17.110 --> 00:44:19.139
August we went in, if I can get these dates right,
1087
00:44:19.639 --> 00:44:23.420
sort of October that was. So August, September, October, three
1088
00:44:23.460 --> 00:44:25.880
months down the line. And we were like, we knew,
1089
00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:28.380
me and Gemma knew this was the moment. When we
1090
00:44:28.420 --> 00:44:31.019
come back from Berlin, we were either, one of us
1091
00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:32.559
is going to give up our job to be a
1092
00:44:32.599 --> 00:44:35.469
full-time carer. Yeah. right oh my god so this is
1093
00:44:35.489 --> 00:44:37.289
like the moment where we're like when we come back
1094
00:44:37.349 --> 00:44:39.449
our lives are either going to continue or they're going
1095
00:44:39.469 --> 00:44:41.769
to change forever yeah and that is a weird moment
1096
00:44:41.789 --> 00:44:44.250
when you're sat there trying to enjoy champagne.
1097
00:44:44.769 --> 00:44:47.650
Getting a selfie with the rock but why was it
1098
00:44:47.670 --> 00:44:49.710
a private jet because of the equipment you needed to
1099
00:44:49.750 --> 00:44:51.449
transport her because she couldn't because you had.
1100
00:44:51.409 --> 00:44:53.429
To have a you had a doctor with you you
1101
00:44:53.449 --> 00:44:55.900
had the medical stuff you had the she was on
1102
00:44:56.000 --> 00:44:59.079
a drip she had the cannula in we had all
1103
00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:01.199
this stuff with us oh wow and is this on
1104
00:45:01.219 --> 00:45:02.500
the nhs.
1105
00:45:02.059 --> 00:45:04.400
This is on the nhs which is no wonder.
1106
00:45:04.179 --> 00:45:09.260
They're in fucking financial trouble i feel guilt about.
1107
00:45:09.050 --> 00:45:10.710
That mate every minute of the day.
1108
00:45:10.670 --> 00:45:13.750
Junior doctors aren't being paid enough and you're sipping champagne
1109
00:45:13.769 --> 00:45:16.909
with the fucking wwe.
1110
00:45:16.090 --> 00:45:17.889
The mad thing was as i looked out the window
1111
00:45:17.949 --> 00:45:20.400
i thought there's some pensioner down there who can't have
1112
00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:26.119
a hip because of me i'm The pilot handed us
1113
00:45:26.159 --> 00:45:28.510
like a platter that had been in there and it
1114
00:45:28.530 --> 00:45:32.849
was like fruit, croissants. So we were like, in one respect.
1115
00:45:32.869 --> 00:45:35.530
So basically we were sat there and it's a real
1116
00:45:35.570 --> 00:45:38.769
juxtaposition because I'm sat in a private jet eating a
1117
00:45:38.889 --> 00:45:41.329
croissant and then your kid's next to you on a
1118
00:45:41.349 --> 00:45:43.409
machine with a dog and you're going like, this is...
1119
00:45:44.050 --> 00:45:48.469
such a confusing thing and remember we got there and
1120
00:45:48.690 --> 00:45:51.550
um they said right you're going to this hospital and
1121
00:45:51.650 --> 00:45:53.610
it is the bit that i didn't i quite realize
1122
00:45:53.670 --> 00:45:56.409
is in germany the hospitals are it's a different game
1123
00:45:56.869 --> 00:45:59.889
it's far more strict in terms of like in the
1124
00:46:00.030 --> 00:46:03.550
uk families around bedsides they let like 50 people go
1125
00:46:03.570 --> 00:46:05.559
around your bed so you sat there you're having a
1126
00:46:05.599 --> 00:46:11.070
barbecue yeah you're hospital for a long time my mum
1127
00:46:11.130 --> 00:46:12.989
used to bring in those little boxes of red wine
1128
00:46:13.010 --> 00:46:15.289
oh really yeah we used to put them in you
1129
00:46:15.329 --> 00:46:17.090
know they were meant for medication and on a night
1130
00:46:17.150 --> 00:46:19.110
I'd be on the wine watching I'm a celeb you
1131
00:46:19.130 --> 00:46:22.309
know what I mean little sneaky wine in the disabled
1132
00:46:22.329 --> 00:46:24.719
toilet but yeah so they said to us right you
1133
00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:26.300
can come in they said to Gemma you can can
1134
00:46:26.320 --> 00:46:28.159
be in the hospital at first they didn't want any
1135
00:46:28.199 --> 00:46:30.139
of us in they were like you go you go
1136
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:32.840
to the hotel and we'll we'll look after and Gemma
1137
00:46:32.860 --> 00:46:35.699
sort of persuaded this nurse because she could speak German
1138
00:46:36.300 --> 00:46:39.269
and just sort of said, I can't leave. I can't leave.
1139
00:46:39.829 --> 00:46:42.150
And so they let Gemma stay. But then I had
1140
00:46:42.170 --> 00:46:46.159
to go. And here's the really weird thing, was they
1141
00:46:46.179 --> 00:46:48.599
put me up in something called the Ronald McDonald House.
1142
00:46:48.619 --> 00:46:54.650
Are you aware of this? Right. McDonald's.
1143
00:46:54.670 --> 00:46:58.550
So McDonald's... So McDonald's financed a kind of thing for parents.
1144
00:46:58.820 --> 00:47:00.840
It's a thing for parents whose children are ill.
1145
00:47:01.340 --> 00:47:02.619
And I never knew this existed.
1146
00:47:02.659 --> 00:47:08.480
Yeah, my sister... Wow. My nephew had leukemia and my sister...
1147
00:47:08.550 --> 00:47:10.780
got put up in one of them in Bristol. But
1148
00:47:10.820 --> 00:47:12.400
it wasn't called the Ronald McDonald House.
1149
00:47:13.059 --> 00:47:16.699
Yeah, I think it was the foundation. Because when they
1150
00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:18.280
said to us, I got there, they went, you were
1151
00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:20.380
staying in the Ronald McDonald House. I was like, you're
1152
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:23.719
having a laugh here, mate. A private jet, and now
1153
00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:28.190
I'm meeting Ronald McDonald. This is like Disneyland on a budget, this.
1154
00:47:28.269 --> 00:47:30.889
I love it. But this is the ironic thing. Considering
1155
00:47:30.909 --> 00:47:33.309
that my child had the opposite of diabetes, who would
1156
00:47:33.349 --> 00:47:39.070
have thought McDonald's would have stepped in? That's a weird twist.
1157
00:47:39.230 --> 00:47:41.130
So I stayed in this house. It was all bright
1158
00:47:41.170 --> 00:47:43.250
red and yellow, as you would expect. It was really
1159
00:47:43.289 --> 00:47:46.360
bizarre in this weird room. And then Gemma was in
1160
00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:48.139
the hospital and Gemma said to me, it was so
1161
00:47:48.199 --> 00:47:52.480
funny because Gemma at the time, she needed some painkillers,
1162
00:47:52.539 --> 00:47:55.500
did Olivia. I think she'd, you could tell that all
1163
00:47:55.519 --> 00:47:58.079
this heel pricking and stuff after a while, it was just,
1164
00:47:58.500 --> 00:48:00.849
she was anxious. And then she says, can she have
1165
00:48:00.889 --> 00:48:03.510
some painkiller? And I didn't realise in Germany, it all
1166
00:48:03.550 --> 00:48:05.190
goes up the bottom, doesn't it? It's all.
1167
00:48:05.650 --> 00:48:07.530
Yeah, it's all suppository.
1168
00:48:07.869 --> 00:48:10.269
They don't do all sort of oral medication. I thought
1169
00:48:10.300 --> 00:48:12.119
they'd just give you like a little string of Calpol.
1170
00:48:12.340 --> 00:48:13.880
And they were like, nope, that goes up the bum.
1171
00:48:14.219 --> 00:48:15.679
I think you went to the wrong bit of Berlin.
1172
00:48:15.860 --> 00:48:16.739
I mean.
1173
00:48:16.980 --> 00:48:18.519
Or the right bit, depending on what you're into.
1174
00:48:18.559 --> 00:48:20.750
I've never seen a leather hospital, but.
1175
00:48:24.380 --> 00:48:26.860
So then I remember going back there and we had
1176
00:48:26.920 --> 00:48:29.860
like one day where we were sort of just waiting.
1177
00:48:29.989 --> 00:48:32.909
And then they were trying to get us amongst all this.
1178
00:48:33.329 --> 00:48:35.289
They threw this one in and said, oh, your daughter
1179
00:48:35.409 --> 00:48:38.070
might struggle with speech. This is what they tell you
1180
00:48:38.110 --> 00:48:41.030
at the hospital. Because she's had no oral stimulation because
1181
00:48:41.050 --> 00:48:44.010
she's not been breastfed. She hasn't used a bottle. She's
1182
00:48:44.070 --> 00:48:47.570
not been speaking. And we were like, right, OK. So
1183
00:48:47.849 --> 00:48:49.449
we went out for a meal and we sort of
1184
00:48:49.510 --> 00:48:52.449
sat her next to us with this... an NG tube
1185
00:48:52.489 --> 00:48:55.090
in her nose and stuff. And everyone, like someone asked
1186
00:48:55.130 --> 00:48:57.019
us what was wrong, which I think is a weird question,
1187
00:48:57.059 --> 00:48:59.039
isn't it? Yeah. Stranger, like what's wrong?
1188
00:48:59.199 --> 00:48:59.460
Yeah.
1189
00:48:59.500 --> 00:49:02.480
So Gemma was like giving her gravy off her finger
1190
00:49:02.519 --> 00:49:05.219
and stuff. And she was starting to eat it. And
1191
00:49:05.239 --> 00:49:07.179
we were like, well, maybe it's not going to be
1192
00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:10.079
as problematic as we think. So the day after we
1193
00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:13.010
went for this scan and I'll, we're near the end
1194
00:49:13.050 --> 00:49:13.869
of it. You'll be pleased to know.
1195
00:49:14.929 --> 00:49:18.309
This is amazing story scott keep going it's astonishing.
1196
00:49:17.730 --> 00:49:20.610
Yeah we went to for this scan and that was
1197
00:49:20.630 --> 00:49:23.030
the moment i think both of us i think a
1198
00:49:23.110 --> 00:49:25.739
lot of emotion come out because they were like they
1199
00:49:25.780 --> 00:49:28.000
took her off us and we hadn't really been apart
1200
00:49:28.019 --> 00:49:30.079
from her yeah and they took us off us and
1201
00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:33.920
they put this dopamine into a system and we saw
1202
00:49:33.960 --> 00:49:36.079
her go into this machine and I think that was
1203
00:49:36.099 --> 00:49:39.019
the point where we were like oh this is the
1204
00:49:39.059 --> 00:49:41.679
worst part and then we had to just wait and
1205
00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:43.920
we weren't meant to get the results for two weeks
1206
00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:47.070
right which would have been agony but the guy who
1207
00:49:47.110 --> 00:49:50.019
was scanning her the doctor I think he took a
1208
00:49:50.019 --> 00:49:51.679
bit of a shine to us. I think it was again,
1209
00:49:51.739 --> 00:49:54.940
the language barrier because Gemma could speak German. I think
1210
00:49:54.960 --> 00:49:57.159
there's a little bit of a, where they're not just
1211
00:49:57.199 --> 00:50:01.039
shouting at us in loud English. What is the result?
1212
00:50:02.500 --> 00:50:06.650
Diffuse or vocal, tell me now.
1213
00:50:06.750 --> 00:50:10.190
And what happened was we were sort of sitting there
1214
00:50:10.210 --> 00:50:13.070
and we sort of thanked the doctor and he had
1215
00:50:13.090 --> 00:50:16.090
like the folder and he sort of opened the side
1216
00:50:16.110 --> 00:50:16.710
of the folder.
1217
00:50:17.269 --> 00:50:17.889
Instantly?
1218
00:50:18.389 --> 00:50:21.550
He had the printout. And he sort of slid it
1219
00:50:21.690 --> 00:50:26.469
towards us and he went, it's focal. And then he said,
1220
00:50:26.730 --> 00:50:30.280
it's in the tail, which means it's, you can operate.
1221
00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:31.300
Oh my God.
1222
00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:34.659
And like, we were just sort of sat there just going,
1223
00:50:35.300 --> 00:50:38.230
holy shit. So we know now this can end.
1224
00:50:38.449 --> 00:50:38.710
Yeah.
1225
00:50:39.380 --> 00:50:41.880
Yeah. And it was like a moment where we were like, oh,
1226
00:50:41.920 --> 00:50:44.619
my God, this is unbelievable. And we were like, are
1227
00:50:44.659 --> 00:50:47.699
you 100% sure? Is that her scam? Yeah, yeah.
1228
00:50:48.239 --> 00:50:50.400
So did you jump in with English before Gemma couldn't
1229
00:50:50.420 --> 00:50:51.219
say that in German?
1230
00:50:51.300 --> 00:50:52.360
She was translating.
1231
00:50:52.590 --> 00:50:54.659
Don't fuck me about, mate. I had him up by
1232
00:50:54.679 --> 00:50:55.300
the collar, mate.
1233
00:50:55.429 --> 00:50:58.530
Listen, mate, I have been on a private jet.
1234
00:50:58.769 --> 00:51:02.590
I'm staying at Ronald McDonald House. I've had a microwave
1235
00:51:02.630 --> 00:51:04.829
meal from the co-op for seven weeks.
1236
00:51:05.510 --> 00:51:07.630
If you have shit in me, here we are now.
1237
00:51:11.510 --> 00:51:13.519
I mean, and Gemma was like, no, he was like, no,
1238
00:51:13.559 --> 00:51:16.000
I genuinely is. So we're going to send these results
1239
00:51:16.039 --> 00:51:18.699
back to Manchester. And so we got back to Manchester
1240
00:51:18.820 --> 00:51:20.769
and we thought, right, we're going to be in another
1241
00:51:20.809 --> 00:51:23.329
holding pattern. They did not piss about. They were like,
1242
00:51:23.670 --> 00:51:27.260
this was November. And they said, right, December the 14th,
1243
00:51:28.570 --> 00:51:31.170
she's been operated on wow brilliant then we were like
1244
00:51:31.630 --> 00:51:33.949
wow so we were like this is bonkers so basically
1245
00:51:33.969 --> 00:51:34.889
did they private.
1246
00:51:34.590 --> 00:51:37.889
Jet you back yeah they didn't go it's only focal
1247
00:51:37.909 --> 00:51:39.750
get on a fucking Ryanair.
1248
00:51:39.219 --> 00:51:43.139
Now get on a ferry mate you know like when
1249
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:45.320
you go into JD sports and they bring you up
1250
00:51:45.380 --> 00:51:47.320
on an elevator but you've got to go out on
1251
00:51:47.340 --> 00:51:50.900
the stairs yeah but you've bought your trainers piss off
1252
00:51:50.940 --> 00:51:57.969
now mate yeah Then this was the mad thing. They
1253
00:51:58.010 --> 00:52:01.309
introduced us to this surgeon. And these surgeons, mate, I
1254
00:52:01.969 --> 00:52:06.219
met this guy. They're special. They're not human beings. I
1255
00:52:06.280 --> 00:52:09.920
don't understand how they, I think they're on the psychopathy spectrum,
1256
00:52:10.099 --> 00:52:11.659
these people, because you have to be.
1257
00:52:11.679 --> 00:52:14.139
You can't have the emotion. You can't go into an.
1258
00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:16.699
Operating theatre going, oh my God, this is someone's child.
1259
00:52:16.949 --> 00:52:19.550
They were so like, the guy we met was like, yeah,
1260
00:52:19.590 --> 00:52:22.289
this is really easy. That's what he said. He was like,
1261
00:52:22.590 --> 00:52:25.599
this is really routine. It's in the tail. We'll take
1262
00:52:25.639 --> 00:52:30.219
the tail off. We'll seal the end with a cable
1263
00:52:30.239 --> 00:52:31.159
tie or something.
1264
00:52:31.179 --> 00:52:34.239
Just to be clear, the tail is of the pancreas.
1265
00:52:34.920 --> 00:52:36.239
It's not another.
1266
00:52:35.980 --> 00:52:40.780
Bit of the hairy thing. It's not the witches. Well,
1267
00:52:40.889 --> 00:52:43.210
the mad thing is as well is, as soon as
1268
00:52:43.269 --> 00:52:45.449
we do this op, she'll come off all the meds.
1269
00:52:45.789 --> 00:52:46.409
It'll all come off.
1270
00:52:46.489 --> 00:52:49.170
Wow. She won't need anything. The hair will fall off.
1271
00:52:49.329 --> 00:52:52.030
She'll molt. She's going to molt. How quickly did you
1272
00:52:52.090 --> 00:52:54.800
ask about the hair? Straight away. Will I need a
1273
00:52:54.880 --> 00:53:01.139
decent Dyson? That's what I said. And so basically he said,
1274
00:53:01.179 --> 00:53:03.980
it's one of the few operations that's curative, which is,
1275
00:53:04.300 --> 00:53:07.599
and we were like, cause we'd been, we'd been to
1276
00:53:07.679 --> 00:53:11.539
like this gathering in the hospital of people with CHI.
1277
00:53:11.559 --> 00:53:14.539
There's a whole family and it freaked us out. We
1278
00:53:14.619 --> 00:53:16.719
used to keep in touch with them. I still do
1279
00:53:16.909 --> 00:53:20.050
charity stuff for them, give them money. But I couldn't,
1280
00:53:20.190 --> 00:53:22.010
we were in one room and me and Gemma was like,
1281
00:53:22.030 --> 00:53:23.949
this is too hard. Cause there was people, there was
1282
00:53:23.969 --> 00:53:27.789
kids there with epilepsy, learning difficulties. It was like, we
1283
00:53:27.869 --> 00:53:31.389
realized in that moment, we were definitely the luckiest. Cause
1284
00:53:31.469 --> 00:53:34.780
like Olivia was showing no signs of anything. And we
1285
00:53:34.800 --> 00:53:37.539
were like, Jesus, we've really got away with this. And
1286
00:53:37.579 --> 00:53:39.280
like some of these kids have been left for like
1287
00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:43.320
a year without anything. Just never, you know, some of
1288
00:53:43.340 --> 00:53:46.179
these kids are presented when there were seven, which is insane.
1289
00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:48.630
Imagine that seven years old, you start fainting.
1290
00:53:48.650 --> 00:53:48.730
Yeah.
1291
00:53:49.590 --> 00:53:53.159
And you go like, it's unbelievable. So, yeah, they said
1292
00:53:53.179 --> 00:53:54.800
to us, right, we're going to do the op. And
1293
00:53:54.820 --> 00:53:57.179
I remember December the 14th, we went down for the
1294
00:53:57.239 --> 00:53:59.219
op and this surgeon was so cool. I think Gemma
1295
00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:02.210
fell in love with him a bit. I think there's
1296
00:54:02.230 --> 00:54:04.869
like a God complex in there. He was like Scottish.
1297
00:54:05.670 --> 00:54:08.070
I remember standing in the lift with him afterwards and
1298
00:54:08.090 --> 00:54:10.369
he was like in Kashmir and I was sort of
1299
00:54:10.389 --> 00:54:12.400
like stood there. And what do you say to a
1300
00:54:12.429 --> 00:54:19.449
bloke who saved a kid's life? I was like... Like you, Colt. Thanks, mate.
1301
00:54:19.489 --> 00:54:19.949
Nice one.
1302
00:54:20.070 --> 00:54:23.190
Because it's a miracle, isn't it, that they, you know,
1303
00:54:23.389 --> 00:54:25.670
inside the body discovered this and can do that and
1304
00:54:25.710 --> 00:54:27.369
everything's back to normal.
1305
00:54:27.630 --> 00:54:29.489
And then the mad thing was they said to us
1306
00:54:29.989 --> 00:54:33.670
when they operated, because there was some dark periods, I
1307
00:54:33.690 --> 00:54:36.989
won't lie, when they'd done the operation. we were on
1308
00:54:37.010 --> 00:54:39.989
intensive care and that is not to bring the mood down,
1309
00:54:40.010 --> 00:54:42.610
but that is a game changer. That's a world you
1310
00:54:42.679 --> 00:54:43.989
don't see, I think.
1311
00:54:44.010 --> 00:54:46.199
And we were on intensive care.
1312
00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:49.079
She had all tubes in her everywhere and she'd had
1313
00:54:49.119 --> 00:54:51.420
this really serious op. They'd had to go in through
1314
00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:54.099
her tummy. So they'd had to slice her tummy open
1315
00:54:54.519 --> 00:54:57.119
and go in. And I remember him saying like, well,
1316
00:54:57.340 --> 00:54:59.340
it's just behind the spleen. I was like, oh mate,
1317
00:54:59.360 --> 00:55:00.320
don't say things like that.
1318
00:55:00.579 --> 00:55:02.980
Yeah. You're making it sound like we're.
1319
00:55:02.900 --> 00:55:04.280
Off to the butchers or something. I'm just going to
1320
00:55:04.300 --> 00:55:06.519
move the spleen, move the spleen to the left, and
1321
00:55:06.539 --> 00:55:09.699
then I'll deal with that. And I remember him saying,
1322
00:55:09.980 --> 00:55:13.519
now we've done the operation. He said, do you watch her?
1323
00:55:13.659 --> 00:55:15.940
They had a machine to take her blood sugar this time.
1324
00:55:15.960 --> 00:55:18.320
She had a cannula in. And so we weren't pricking
1325
00:55:18.340 --> 00:55:21.119
her heel because she's in intensive care. And he was saying,
1326
00:55:21.579 --> 00:55:23.510
I was sat on a chair, no bed, so I
1327
00:55:23.530 --> 00:55:25.989
was sleeping in this chair. Was you watching the operation? No,
1328
00:55:26.179 --> 00:55:29.349
after the op, when she was recovering, they said, you
1329
00:55:29.369 --> 00:55:32.929
just watch now as her sugar increases. And I was like,
1330
00:55:33.070 --> 00:55:36.949
this won't be that quick. And he was like, watch.
1331
00:55:37.210 --> 00:55:39.449
And the first reading came in and it was like three.
1332
00:55:39.469 --> 00:55:43.599
And then it was like 3.1. 3.2. And it's like
1333
00:55:43.659 --> 00:55:47.739
a pancreas is starting to work properly. Alive, like in
1334
00:55:47.820 --> 00:55:50.829
front of you. And you're like, this is mental. And
1335
00:55:50.869 --> 00:55:51.449
then he said.
1336
00:55:51.489 --> 00:55:53.690
That's Soccer Saturday. The score's coming.
1337
00:55:54.190 --> 00:55:58.250
They've gone 5-1 up. Wickham at home. Do you know
1338
00:55:58.269 --> 00:56:01.050
what I mean? And then he said to me, this
1339
00:56:01.170 --> 00:56:03.550
bent my head. He says, here's what's going to be weird.
1340
00:56:03.860 --> 00:56:05.300
We're going to give her insulin in a minute.
1341
00:56:05.739 --> 00:56:07.139
It's like, you are joking me.
1342
00:56:07.360 --> 00:56:08.420
And he was like....
1343
00:56:09.500 --> 00:56:10.340
Here's what's weird.
1344
00:56:10.360 --> 00:56:11.960
Here's what's weird. You didn't say it like that. What
1345
00:56:11.980 --> 00:56:14.960
about the hair? That's quite weird. Here's what's weird. It's
1346
00:56:15.059 --> 00:56:17.139
a medical training. Here's what's weird, mate.
1347
00:56:17.539 --> 00:56:21.960
No, he said, so she got to like 15, 16, sugar.
1348
00:56:21.980 --> 00:56:23.940
Making up for lost time.
1349
00:56:24.159 --> 00:56:26.619
Making up, so then they gave her insulin and it
1350
00:56:26.659 --> 00:56:29.139
brought it down and basically the next week was just
1351
00:56:29.199 --> 00:56:32.969
letting her pancreas settle and take over. Yeah. But there
1352
00:56:32.989 --> 00:56:36.289
was some moments in there where you sort of realise
1353
00:56:36.349 --> 00:56:39.860
as well what you're actually amongst because I remember, We
1354
00:56:39.880 --> 00:56:42.940
were in that hospital and here's a really weird thing.
1355
00:56:42.980 --> 00:56:45.860
We had such surreal experiences because there was days where
1356
00:56:46.460 --> 00:56:49.550
you'd be in that hospital, that's just a children's hospital,
1357
00:56:49.719 --> 00:56:52.349
on the ward and like a family would come in
1358
00:56:52.469 --> 00:56:56.090
and they'd draw the curtains round and then the family
1359
00:56:56.130 --> 00:56:58.489
would slowly walk out and you realise what had happened,
1360
00:56:58.530 --> 00:57:00.190
that the kid had passed away. Yeah.
1361
00:57:01.929 --> 00:57:04.230
You sort of, you realize how close you are.
1362
00:57:04.250 --> 00:57:06.090
Do you know what I mean? And then the bed's
1363
00:57:06.150 --> 00:57:10.780
empty and there's moments like, and staying amongst that sometimes,
1364
00:57:11.000 --> 00:57:13.780
in your head, you're like, oh my God, this is,
1365
00:57:13.820 --> 00:57:16.320
we all look out the window and everyone's getting on
1366
00:57:16.340 --> 00:57:17.659
with their lives. Do you know what I mean? There's
1367
00:57:17.679 --> 00:57:20.739
buses going past, people are going to work. And you go,
1368
00:57:20.760 --> 00:57:25.639
but in here, it's, everything's a mess. You know, it's all,
1369
00:57:26.019 --> 00:57:28.900
everything can change in minutes. And I think you forget
1370
00:57:28.920 --> 00:57:31.079
how close you are to that sometimes.
1371
00:57:31.119 --> 00:57:31.579
Of course.
1372
00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:33.769
But then is one thing I forgot to mention, because
1373
00:57:33.789 --> 00:57:36.789
we spent Christmas in there after the off. We were
1374
00:57:36.809 --> 00:57:40.010
in there for Christmas Day. On Boxing Day, this was
1375
00:57:40.070 --> 00:57:42.960
so surreal. We were in the hospital. We're back on
1376
00:57:43.000 --> 00:57:46.039
the ward, both recovering. My mum and dad had been
1377
00:57:46.099 --> 00:57:48.489
and brought us like a buffet in Tupperware. We're still
1378
00:57:48.550 --> 00:57:50.750
on the wine. I had a drink problem by that point.
1379
00:57:50.769 --> 00:57:54.389
LAUGHTER Putting the weight straight back on.
1380
00:57:54.710 --> 00:57:55.690
Oh, no.
1381
00:57:55.769 --> 00:57:58.469
Yeah, I was looking good still.
1382
00:57:59.210 --> 00:58:01.219
Yeah, but a bit red. I had a lot of
1383
00:58:01.239 --> 00:58:03.800
Christmas weight. We couldn't do any Christmas shopping. We had
1384
00:58:03.820 --> 00:58:06.539
to do presents from, like, B & M in Rush
1385
00:58:06.880 --> 00:58:09.019
Home in Manchester. That's where the hospital is. Oh, yeah,
1386
00:58:09.059 --> 00:58:12.630
Corrie Mile. Yeah, good old Rush Home. And we sat there,
1387
00:58:12.690 --> 00:58:15.369
and then the nurse said, oh, today the Manchester United
1388
00:58:15.409 --> 00:58:20.469
team are coming round. And we were like, really? They're like, yeah, yeah.
1389
00:58:21.010 --> 00:58:23.969
So would you like to meet Wayne Rooney and all
1390
00:58:23.989 --> 00:58:25.989
the team? And we were like, yeah, all right, yeah.
1391
00:58:26.829 --> 00:58:30.510
Are you a Man United fan? No, don't really like football. But,
1392
00:58:30.809 --> 00:58:32.909
you know, it's Wayne Rooney, isn't it? And when your
1393
00:58:32.949 --> 00:58:37.110
days are spent waiting for toast and watching CBeebies, Wayne Rooney,
1394
00:58:37.389 --> 00:58:37.949
nice change.
1395
00:58:38.050 --> 00:58:39.989
Also, when you're hammered, why not?
1396
00:58:40.610 --> 00:58:43.750
Yeah, yeah. I just said, just keep him away from the,
1397
00:58:43.889 --> 00:58:47.449
you know, geriatric ward. That's what I said. Yeah. So
1398
00:58:47.469 --> 00:58:49.010
who did you meet? Who did you meet?
1399
00:58:49.050 --> 00:58:49.570
Did they come round?
1400
00:58:49.590 --> 00:58:52.139
Yeah, so they came round. So it was Wayne Rooney.
1401
00:58:52.599 --> 00:58:55.139
It was, oh God, I've got a picture of it.
1402
00:58:55.199 --> 00:58:57.159
I should have brought the book in, but who else
1403
00:58:57.199 --> 00:59:01.460
were they? Oh, there was Darren Fletcher. I think Darren Fletcher.
1404
00:59:03.070 --> 00:59:04.809
He had Crohn's as well. He had a chronic Crohn's
1405
00:59:05.050 --> 00:59:06.170
and still played football.
1406
00:59:06.190 --> 00:59:08.739
This was before that. Yeah. I didn't say to him,
1407
00:59:08.769 --> 00:59:13.449
you'll be in here in six months. There was a goalkeeper.
1408
00:59:13.469 --> 00:59:17.090
I was a goalkeeper. Van der Sar. Van der Sar.
1409
00:59:17.349 --> 00:59:19.650
So like four of them came round and we were
1410
00:59:19.750 --> 00:59:23.090
sort of sat there and it was just so surreal.
1411
00:59:23.110 --> 00:59:25.309
We sort of sat in bed and like Wayne Rooney
1412
00:59:25.369 --> 00:59:28.760
and that. And they brought a toy with a Manchester
1413
00:59:28.780 --> 00:59:31.980
United T-shirt on. And then he sort of like, Gemma
1414
00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:33.980
was like, she didn't know what to say. Neither of
1415
00:59:34.039 --> 00:59:36.840
us really liked football. And she went, does your kid
1416
00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:37.940
like Christmas?
1417
00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:38.519
Yeah.
1418
00:59:40.320 --> 00:59:42.349
And I was like, oh, come on, Gem. That's a
1419
00:59:42.409 --> 00:59:46.130
terrible question. I remember he went, yeah, he likes the lights.
1420
00:59:47.230 --> 00:59:49.739
And that was it. That was the whole interaction. He
1421
00:59:49.800 --> 00:59:50.599
likes the lights.
1422
00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:52.619
Such a kid like Christmas.
1423
00:59:52.780 --> 00:59:55.440
And yeah, so they sign stuff. So we've got the book.
1424
00:59:55.519 --> 00:59:58.260
Can I just ask a quick question on that? Yeah.
1425
00:59:58.320 --> 01:00:02.260
When Wayne met your daughter... Was that pre or post
1426
01:00:02.280 --> 01:00:05.369
his hair transplant? Did he steal some of her medication?
1427
01:00:05.590 --> 01:00:08.409
Yeah, no, that was before the transplant. I bagged it
1428
01:00:08.510 --> 01:00:10.960
up for him. I goes, here you go, Ray. Get
1429
01:00:10.980 --> 01:00:15.340
a bit of prick stick on there, mate. That's 10-week-old
1430
01:00:15.719 --> 01:00:19.619
child's soft hair. That's soft hair. Very soft.
1431
01:00:19.639 --> 01:00:22.949
Very soft hair. And we kept a journal of it all.
1432
01:00:23.199 --> 01:00:23.469
Oh, wow.
1433
01:00:23.550 --> 01:00:25.250
I definitely think you need to write a book about
1434
01:00:25.289 --> 01:00:28.630
this or a drama or something, Scott. It needs to
1435
01:00:28.650 --> 01:00:29.170
go somewhere.
1436
01:00:29.289 --> 01:00:33.690
Yeah, and she switched on the Christmas lights, the little one,
1437
01:00:33.710 --> 01:00:36.570
when we were at Manchester. with a load of other
1438
01:00:36.610 --> 01:00:39.570
little kids. It was really weird. And then, yeah, we
1439
01:00:39.610 --> 01:00:42.260
get to January, we have Christmas in the hospital, which
1440
01:00:42.300 --> 01:00:44.820
was really surreal. And then they get to January and
1441
01:00:44.840 --> 01:00:47.159
they go, I remember January the 1st, they just went, right,
1442
01:00:47.590 --> 01:00:47.969
you can go.
1443
01:00:49.039 --> 01:00:51.619
And she was all just, everything back to normal.
1444
01:00:51.699 --> 01:00:54.090
Back to normal. And then by that point, she was
1445
01:00:54.159 --> 01:00:56.789
drinking out of a Tommy Tippy cup. So straight away
1446
01:00:56.849 --> 01:00:59.510
she was on it. So those fears were going. She
1447
01:00:59.530 --> 01:01:02.650
was babbling. She was starting to talk. Do you know
1448
01:01:02.670 --> 01:01:05.889
what I mean? A scar was there. And we sort
1449
01:01:05.909 --> 01:01:09.230
of left the hospital. And I remember... Just sort of
1450
01:01:09.269 --> 01:01:11.699
driving back. And it was that really cold winter. Do
1451
01:01:11.719 --> 01:01:13.519
you know when it was like minus 13? Do you
1452
01:01:13.679 --> 01:01:15.820
remember that? Was that Beast from the East?
1453
01:01:15.940 --> 01:01:16.159
It was.
1454
01:01:16.360 --> 01:01:19.829
Everything froze. And like we got home and Gemma's dad
1455
01:01:19.849 --> 01:01:22.070
had said to us, oh, I didn't tell you this,
1456
01:01:22.110 --> 01:01:23.510
but while you were away, I went in the house
1457
01:01:23.550 --> 01:01:27.280
and your boiler had packed up. Oh no. he said
1458
01:01:27.320 --> 01:01:29.500
it had frozen and like there was ice on the
1459
01:01:29.519 --> 01:01:31.539
inside of the windows but he'd had a boiler put
1460
01:01:31.579 --> 01:01:34.440
in for us a new boiler so we got home
1461
01:01:34.480 --> 01:01:36.380
and it was all done and like they'd put like
1462
01:01:36.420 --> 01:01:39.079
a tree in the house and like we had like
1463
01:01:39.139 --> 01:01:41.809
a late Christmas like for the first week of January
1464
01:01:42.449 --> 01:01:44.550
and it was just like I remember just sitting there
1465
01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:49.039
just like shell-shocked, you know, like going, holy shit, this is.
1466
01:01:49.050 --> 01:01:52.010
What the fuck was that? What was that? Because that
1467
01:01:52.030 --> 01:01:53.130
was six months, was it?
1468
01:01:53.510 --> 01:01:59.260
Six months? It was August through to January, basically. August, September, November, January, February. Yeah,
1469
01:01:59.519 --> 01:02:02.659
sort of five, six months. And then was everything normal?
1470
01:02:02.989 --> 01:02:03.219
Yeah.
1471
01:02:03.300 --> 01:02:05.829
So this was a really weird thing is that we
1472
01:02:05.849 --> 01:02:07.989
had like these follow up appointments where they were doing
1473
01:02:08.050 --> 01:02:13.690
all sorts of stuff. And we were really nervy parents, understandably,
1474
01:02:14.130 --> 01:02:17.409
for the like first six, three months. Every time she
1475
01:02:17.449 --> 01:02:19.010
coughed or shit herself, we were in A & E.
1476
01:02:19.059 --> 01:02:19.260
Yeah.
1477
01:02:21.429 --> 01:02:24.070
I'm like that. I didn't even have your excuse. Yeah,
1478
01:02:24.150 --> 01:02:28.239
we were neurotic, mate. We were completely like, every time
1479
01:02:28.280 --> 01:02:30.179
she had like a thing, we were like straight down
1480
01:02:30.199 --> 01:02:32.239
to the walking centre and we used it as a pass.
1481
01:02:32.260 --> 01:02:34.159
We were like, we went to Berlin. She was on
1482
01:02:34.199 --> 01:02:36.280
a private jet. She's a high risk. You know what
1483
01:02:36.300 --> 01:02:38.920
I mean? We were straight in. Suit on. Suit on.
1484
01:02:38.980 --> 01:02:39.320
Tie on.
1485
01:02:39.780 --> 01:02:42.059
By then, the weight was coming back. Cheekbones had gone.
1486
01:02:42.849 --> 01:02:44.909
Just a fat man in a suit crying.
1487
01:02:45.190 --> 01:02:47.309
What was really interesting though is both of us didn't
1488
01:02:47.349 --> 01:02:50.039
really come away unscathed because this is a mad thing.
1489
01:02:50.079 --> 01:02:52.440
It's like I had eczema as a kid really bad
1490
01:02:52.460 --> 01:02:56.300
and it was dormant for years. Well, end of January, boom.
1491
01:02:56.760 --> 01:02:59.320
It was all the adrenaline and all the stress. I
1492
01:02:59.360 --> 01:03:02.030
had to myself have treatment. I was put on strong
1493
01:03:02.050 --> 01:03:05.949
medication because my skin just went So your body, the adrenaline,
1494
01:03:06.110 --> 01:03:09.849
and then your reaction straight away. And then Gemma had
1495
01:03:09.869 --> 01:03:12.840
to have a few tablets and help. And I think
1496
01:03:12.889 --> 01:03:18.960
we'd been like this. Existing. It's amazing what adrenaline can do.
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Like how it gets you through.
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Yeah.
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And how long it can last. And how long it
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can last.
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Yeah.
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And we sort of came back. But now I look
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01:03:25.949 --> 01:03:29.130
at her. So she's 12 years old. She's doing brilliant
1504
01:03:29.489 --> 01:03:33.750
at school. She's had no problems whatsoever. The only thing
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01:03:33.769 --> 01:03:36.539
she's ever mentioned about is she's got a scar. So
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01:03:36.579 --> 01:03:38.500
she's conscious that she's got a scar. Yeah.
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You know.
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And she speaks in a German accent. That's the other thing.
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She'll only go anywhere by a Learjet now. Like a
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01:03:47.610 --> 01:03:52.039
little Kardashian. so she's got like a scar and she
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01:03:52.099 --> 01:03:54.389
had like a little they call it a peg where
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01:03:54.429 --> 01:03:56.730
she was fed into a stomach so it's like a
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01:03:56.769 --> 01:04:01.010
little dint but other than that she's completely unscathed and
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01:04:01.090 --> 01:04:06.239
now it feels like a different life Yeah, I bet.
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01:04:06.329 --> 01:04:08.630
Here's the amazing close to the story. I think I
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01:04:08.650 --> 01:04:11.070
said to you, we got rid of everything, didn't we?
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We sold the cot. We sold everything. We didn't want
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any reminder of it. So we got rid of it.
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And we said, we're only going to have one child.
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01:04:17.960 --> 01:04:20.940
I was booked in for the snip and everything. Yeah,
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being flown out to Munich for it, weren't you? Yeah,
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01:04:23.360 --> 01:04:26.199
it was a high-end snip. The pilot got me out
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01:04:26.239 --> 01:04:28.750
there as a priority. But we sort of said, look,
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I don't think we could make the decision now. And
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01:04:31.849 --> 01:04:34.909
then five years later, we had Sophia. Went for it again.
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01:04:34.929 --> 01:04:37.949
And there was that moment when they kept us in
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01:04:37.989 --> 01:04:39.670
hospital for a week and she had to have the
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01:04:39.710 --> 01:04:42.889
heel pricked. Oh, my fucking Lord. Oh, God. Just in case.
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01:04:42.909 --> 01:04:43.710
Just in case.
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01:04:43.889 --> 01:04:48.280
But completely fine. She had a genetic test. It's not there.
1531
01:04:48.559 --> 01:04:50.719
My brother's had two children, both fine.
1532
01:04:50.880 --> 01:04:55.099
And would your daughters have this potential to pass this on?
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01:04:55.460 --> 01:04:59.340
Yeah, Olivia definitely is because she's carrying. So if she
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01:04:59.409 --> 01:05:02.769
has children, she's a high risk. So I think she's
1535
01:05:02.789 --> 01:05:07.010
like a 30% chance. Whereas Sophia's nothing because she's not
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01:05:07.070 --> 01:05:09.230
in her system. But you're carrying as well.
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01:05:09.289 --> 01:05:11.320
I'm carrying. So I've lived with it.
1538
01:05:11.510 --> 01:05:14.380
Yeah. And I've had no, you know, other than being
1539
01:05:14.400 --> 01:05:17.900
a comedian, which is obviously a problem. There's been no
1540
01:05:17.940 --> 01:05:20.320
sort of, but it was, yeah. We look back now
1541
01:05:20.380 --> 01:05:23.260
and just go, whenever I see parents who've been through
1542
01:05:23.280 --> 01:05:26.989
stuff now, I always think, God, this is, you forget
1543
01:05:27.409 --> 01:05:30.090
that's one part of parenting that no one talks about,
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01:05:30.150 --> 01:05:30.349
I think.
1545
01:05:31.110 --> 01:05:33.789
Exactly. And thank you so much for sharing it, Scott.
1546
01:05:33.849 --> 01:05:37.780
It's hilarious and also really important and just an amazing story.
1547
01:05:38.059 --> 01:05:39.719
And I think we'll definitely get you back on for
1548
01:05:39.860 --> 01:05:40.519
what I'd say.
1549
01:05:40.400 --> 01:05:42.340
More of a normal episode. Just to talk about the
1550
01:05:42.380 --> 01:05:43.719
washing up and shit like that.
1551
01:05:44.400 --> 01:05:46.860
Just all the days and times you've fallen over and
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01:05:46.900 --> 01:05:48.179
something and they've put on a laugh.
1553
01:05:48.300 --> 01:05:50.760
You know, that kind of stuff. Or your daughter said
1554
01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:52.650
shit once in front of someone important.
1555
01:05:52.690 --> 01:05:54.510
It's a real shame because I had a cracking story
1556
01:05:54.570 --> 01:05:57.210
about my daughter pissing herself near the deli counter, which.
1557
01:05:57.690 --> 01:05:59.590
Oh, well, that's something to look forward to next time.
1558
01:05:59.670 --> 01:06:02.909
Which would have been much better, much lighter, much lighter.
1559
01:06:02.949 --> 01:06:04.300
Is it the same length? I'll tell you what.
1560
01:06:04.340 --> 01:06:07.099
Is it the same length of story, or is it? Oh, yeah,
1561
01:06:07.179 --> 01:06:08.159
they're all an hour, John.
1562
01:06:08.460 --> 01:06:10.239
We'll get you up for that one when you announce
1563
01:06:10.280 --> 01:06:12.340
a new tour, so you can sell some tickets, yeah?
1564
01:06:12.380 --> 01:06:14.079
Thank you, mate. Are you still touring at the moment?
1565
01:06:14.119 --> 01:06:16.889
I am, yeah. I'm touring again with the Greatest Hits tour,
1566
01:06:17.179 --> 01:06:18.449
and we're going all the way to the end of
1567
01:06:18.469 --> 01:06:20.530
the year. We've just got the Greatest Hit. That was it.
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01:06:20.610 --> 01:06:23.610
That was the Greatest Hit. Oh, there's plenty in the locker, baby.
1569
01:06:23.630 --> 01:06:24.929
I have got, you know.
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01:06:25.170 --> 01:06:28.130
I'd say as well, your stand-up isn't that in-depth or
1571
01:06:28.409 --> 01:06:32.800
sort of, you know, deep about childhood illness. I'd say
1572
01:06:32.820 --> 01:06:34.679
you don't really touch on that on stage, and it's
1573
01:06:34.800 --> 01:06:35.820
just a very funny hour.
1574
01:06:35.840 --> 01:06:37.820
No, I tend to swerve that. I think if you've
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01:06:37.840 --> 01:06:40.119
got a babysitter, the last thing you need is to
1576
01:06:40.139 --> 01:06:44.380
be sitting there going, this is traumatic. We've just been
1577
01:06:44.400 --> 01:06:48.280
to Nando's, we've got a babysitter, and now we're watching this.
1578
01:06:48.380 --> 01:06:51.710
This is not stand-up. This is a crack-up. No. So
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01:06:51.849 --> 01:06:55.480
it's called Great Scott, my tour. If you go to scottbennettcomedy.co.uk
1580
01:06:55.500 --> 01:06:57.639
forward slash live and it's my favourite bits. It's a
1581
01:06:57.679 --> 01:07:00.400
lot about families and family holidays and things like that
1582
01:07:00.500 --> 01:07:02.780
and stuff that, you know, parents will relate to. But
1583
01:07:02.960 --> 01:07:04.380
if you're not a parent as well, there's loads of
1584
01:07:04.400 --> 01:07:07.110
stuff in there about life. And also our podcast is
1585
01:07:07.130 --> 01:07:08.130
called Brew with the Bennetts.
1586
01:07:08.570 --> 01:07:10.929
E-W- brew with the bennetts if you listen to the
1587
01:07:10.949 --> 01:07:14.530
podcast bwtb pod and that's us thank you so much
1588
01:07:14.550 --> 01:07:17.320
for having me on today no thanks for doing it
1589
01:07:17.340 --> 01:07:19.360
no you're a good man it's got a brilliant comedian
1590
01:07:19.460 --> 01:07:21.619
and they should definitely get most of all thank you
1591
01:07:21.639 --> 01:07:23.579
for starting before your kids have even got up.
1592
01:07:23.639 --> 01:07:25.800
And they won't have got up yet 10 12 i
1593
01:07:25.840 --> 01:07:28.090
think one of them will be coming down now in
1594
01:07:28.130 --> 01:07:33.110
a dressing gown like lou style just wandering about like ophelia.
1595
01:07:32.809 --> 01:07:37.510
Well, you've definitely earned a lie-in after six months in hospital.
1596
01:07:37.530 --> 01:07:39.369
I know, yeah, that's it. And they've got a new
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01:07:39.409 --> 01:07:40.710
mattress coming soon.
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01:07:40.730 --> 01:07:41.929
Oh, what a life.
1599
01:07:41.949 --> 01:07:44.889
Yeah, it's a dream, yeah. Too expensive, though, I think,
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01:07:44.969 --> 01:07:47.150
in the back of my mind. What she said to us,
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01:07:47.159 --> 01:07:48.619
do you want to do it in installments? And I
1602
01:07:48.619 --> 01:07:50.219
was like, the last thing you need when you're trying
1603
01:07:50.239 --> 01:07:52.340
to sleep is to worry about paying off the thing
1604
01:07:52.380 --> 01:07:55.800
you sleep in.
1605
01:07:55.820 --> 01:07:57.820
Scott, thanks so much, mate. That was absolutely brilliant.
1606
01:07:57.840 --> 01:07:58.739
Thank you so much, guys.
1607
01:08:01.239 --> 01:08:03.039
Scott Bennett. What a story, Josh.
1608
01:08:03.059 --> 01:08:04.760
Amazing. Incredible.
1609
01:08:05.039 --> 01:08:06.420
I mean, that was the second time I've heard it,
1610
01:08:06.420 --> 01:08:09.519
but I was still enthralled. Yeah, it's incredible. Just for listeners,
1611
01:08:09.559 --> 01:08:11.530
he looks a lot like Keir Starmer, doesn't he?
1612
01:08:11.539 --> 01:08:13.300
Yeah, a little bit, actually.
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01:08:13.320 --> 01:08:13.860
Yeah.
1614
01:08:14.179 --> 01:08:15.980
Yeah, I think that'd be your takeaway from this.
1615
01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:18.869
Sorry, that wasn't my take home. Well, I thought early on,
1616
01:08:18.880 --> 01:08:21.000
I thought I should mention this Keir Starmer thing. As
1617
01:08:21.039 --> 01:08:22.640
the story went on, I thought I'm getting less and
1618
01:08:22.680 --> 01:08:25.119
less chance here to drop the Keir Starmer thing. Yeah,
1619
01:08:25.159 --> 01:08:28.109
I'd love if you panicked and put it in like, yeah,
1620
01:08:28.210 --> 01:08:29.789
and you look a bit like Keir Starmer. So yeah,
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01:08:29.850 --> 01:08:34.670
what is ICU like? Go and see Scott Bennett on tour.
1622
01:08:34.970 --> 01:08:38.149
Listen to his podcast. He's absolutely brilliant, as you can hear.
1623
01:08:38.170 --> 01:08:40.229
I mean, if you can make that funny. Honestly, his
1624
01:08:40.270 --> 01:08:42.880
stand-up is absolutely brilliant. It's proper laugh out loud funny.
1625
01:08:43.220 --> 01:08:44.720
And that's why I think that was so good and
1626
01:08:45.060 --> 01:08:46.319
a good place for Scott to do it because he
1627
01:08:46.359 --> 01:08:48.180
doesn't really talk about that kind of stuff in his
1628
01:08:48.199 --> 01:08:50.560
stand-up because he's just going for laughs the whole time
1629
01:08:51.100 --> 01:08:53.260
and stuff. So yeah, no, he's brilliant. Brilliant act and
1630
01:08:53.319 --> 01:08:53.659
a good man.
1631
01:08:54.090 --> 01:08:56.300
Shall I see you on Tuesday, Rob? Yes, you will. Bye-bye.