S6 EP14: Suzi Ruffell

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Hello I'm Rob Beckett and I'm Josh Willicombe. Welcome to
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Parents in.
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Hell the show in which Josh and I discuss what
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it's really like to be a parent which I would
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say can be a little tricky.
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So to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about
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the trials and tribulations of modern day parenting each week
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we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how.
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They're coping or hopefully how they're not coping.
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And we'll also be hearing from you the listener with
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your tips advice and of course tales of parenting.
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Woe because let's be honest there are plenty of times
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where none of us know what we're doing Hello, you're
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listening to Parenting Hell with.
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Right, can you say Rob Beckett?
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No.
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What's Beckett?
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And can you say Josh Widdicombe? Josh Widdicombe.
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There we go.
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I like the cut of that kid's jib.
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Yeah.
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He's got a bit of attitude on him in a
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good way.
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Doesn't fuck around. Hi, I'm Robin Josh. This is my
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40-month-year-old boy, Rowan.
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Oh, you said year old again.
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Oh, yeah, sorry. They didn't even put that in. With
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his attempt at your intro, love listening to the podcast
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as we too are in the thick of it with
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a one and three-year-old. Thanks for keeping us sane following
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the sleepless nights and toddler tantrums. Stay sexy and relatable. Tom, Emily,
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Rowan and Alfie listening. up north in Sheffield.
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Lovely.
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There we go. How are you, Rob?
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I'm good.
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We've got an email here I want to talk to
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you about.
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Oh, go on.
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We mentioned that you didn't get spotted in Darlington Nando's.
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Yeah.
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We mentioned that on the pod.
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Yeah.
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And they said, hi, guys.
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Just listen to the recent podcast about Josh not being
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recognised in Nando's Darlington. Me and my boyfriend were tucking
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into our chicken when I saw Josh walk through and
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I did a double take. I mentioned it to my
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boyfriend because we both love the podcast.
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Too intimidated by star quality.
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My boyfriend said, was Adam there? Adam Hills?
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Oh, unbelievable. Brutal.
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My boyfriend said, there's no way that's Josh. There's no
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way that's Josh Widdicombe. Look at how feebly he's walking.
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No, he didn't. No, he didn't. No, he didn't. That
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isn't what it said.
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That's what the email said. And Josh, on my life.
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Feebly?
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Well, without my words.
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Unbelievable.
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Josh walked past us to the toilet, walking as if
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he was going to be attacked at any moment.
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This isn't true.
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You're making the whole thing up.
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And then proceeded to sit in the corner for 10
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minutes by himself, looking awfully depressed. So we concluded it
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can't have been him.
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Love the podcast. That's from Lucy. That is a genuine email.
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I did sit in the corner on my own. I
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do admit that.
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Looking depressed. I didn't look depressed.
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I do think, though, people think when they see a
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comedian that they're going to be, well, hey, how's it going?
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But when you're not working, you are just floating around.
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With a normal face. What would I do? Sit in
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the corner of an Ando's? If I sat in the
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corner of an Ando's looking like I'm having the time
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of my life, it would have been insane.
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Like Ken Dodd.
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He's there with a little feather duster.
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Yeah, exactly. I was just looking at my phone.
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Yeah, I think, though, if you think that can't be
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a comedian, look how miserable they are.
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That's a comedian.
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Yeah, that's a comedian. We do comedy in spite of
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who we are.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Not because of who we are.
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Yeah, exactly. Well, thank you for that.
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Feeble. I don't even know what a feeble walk is.
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I tell you what, get yourself in a hall of mirrors,
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you'll find out. I'd say, though, you don't stride into
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Anandos like an alpha male bombshell at Love Island. Do
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you know what I mean? You will shuffle in.
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Exactly yeah because i'm picking up a halloumi and mushroom
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pita i'm not picking up a full chicken.
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But i think up north maybe there i think up
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north for a little bit more blokey than down south
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so like blokes walking like big tough guys kind of
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thing in darlington it's quite a tough town darlington um
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so i think you're maybe you're feeble for darlington but
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i tell you what in that gales queue.
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You're a big deal.
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Oh, mate. Get out of the fucking way. I want
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a cheese twist. Thank you very much.
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Big dogs in town for a little veggie pastry.
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Oh, well, that's good that someone spotted me and was
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rude about me. That's good news.
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They'll have a little hang-up for you to worry about,
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the way you walk.
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Yeah, exactly. The way I walk, feebly.
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Kids saying the wrong funny things. Hi, Rob and Josh.
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We were talking to my son about his forehead. Coincidentally,
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he was age four at that time. My five-year-old daughter
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then made the assumption that it was his forehead because
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he was four and she.
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Was a five head.
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Oh, that's nice. That's good.
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Yeah.
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Lovely stuff. Heather says, on kids mispronouncing things, my son
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was playing with his toy cars and he thought shortcut
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was pronounced short.
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Yeah, it's always good when it's fun, isn't it? It's
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always good. That's the rule. Hi, guys.
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I saw you at the Work in Progress show in
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Norwich on Wednesday.
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Bloody hilarious. Sexily and relatable, obviously. When my son was
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learning to talk, he was obsessed with planes and helicopters.
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Except he called them hairy doctors for helicopters.
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Oh.
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Hairy doctors.
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Hairy doctors. That's good.
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Does he think.
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Because my daughter will do some where you go, that
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is logical. I can't think of one off the top
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of my head.
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I think it just.
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They don't know they're saying it, and then it slowly assimilates,
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doesn't it? My youngest used to say, for raspberry, and
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it's so cute, and she still does it now and again.
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And she goes, oh, no, no, it's raspberry, because she
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knows how to say it. And then she gets embarrassed,
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because they want to be grown up, don't they?
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Yeah.
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All right, okay. Right, Josh, you know you asked for
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the worst thing you've ever smelled?
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Yeah. Okay.
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Yeah yeah quite a lot and there's a there's a
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note here that's written in bold red writing that michael's
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put in from the correspondence some of these should come
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with a content warning there's a few that are quite
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disgusting and not for those with a delicate disposition oh
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um should we try this one yeah go on hi
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rob and josh firstly thank you for the amazing podcast
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you know how exciting it is when your child finds
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their giggle and as a parent you get so overwhelmed
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of how adorable it is you do anything you can
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to make them giggle well when my daughter found her
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laugh and laugh for the first time i obviously loved
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it and tried to make her do it again yeah
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i lifted her up i lifted her above my head
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to blow raspberries on her tummy oh no and as
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she was laughing on the way back down she was
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sick it went in my mouth and up my nose oh.
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My god oh my god oh my fucking god I've
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had to turn away from the mic, and I don't
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even know why I'm doing it.
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And I'll fight anyone who says that warm, regurgitated baby
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milk isn't the worst smell in the.
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World, Eric.
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Oh, my God.
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Mouth and nose.
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Oh, my God.
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I think we do one a show. I don't know
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if we can do two.
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No, that's awful. Oh, sick in your mouth. Oh, my God.
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I didn't like that. Oh, I don't like this. I
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don't like this feature.
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It's amazing how smells live with you. I don't like
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this feature either, but I'm almost addicted to it. I
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can't read anymore. Right, we'll do some another time.
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Okay, should we bring our guest on?
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I feel sick now.
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Yeah, it's not ideal, is it?
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Let me finish on something funny.
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Okay, don't do another one.
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On the subject of kids saying funny things from Tuesday's podcast,
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my youngest used to say, for chocolate and sweeties, cock
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it and feces.
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Oh, that's nice. That's good.
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I can't believe it feels like that's made.
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Up, that. It's very neat, but I'm happy with it. Right,
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Susie Ruffell, great friend of the show. She's got one kid.
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You'll hear all about it. Love this interview. Please welcome
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the wonderful Susie Ruffell. Hello, Susie Ruffell.
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Hello, Josh Widdicombe and Rob Beckett.
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Sorry, did I cough all over that, Josh?
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You really did, yeah. I thought that was quite bad.
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Sorry, should we start again? Let's do a proper intro.
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Susie's our friend, but let's pretend this is an official interview.
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Who are you?
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Who have we got up next?
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We've got a lovely comedian up next. I've heard they're brilliant.
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Lovely.
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No one's lovely comedian. A funny one.
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Funny.
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How lovely.
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That's what you say, right? He's a lovely bloke.
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He's a lovely girl.
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No, it's still a proper intro, Josh.
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But I know what you're about to say, Josh. Do
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you remember when we did that gig and the guy
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couldn't remember my name?
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Yeah, in Chester.
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Yeah. In Chester.
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This is like more than a decade ago. More than
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a decade ago.
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We're in Chester. No, I remember about a decade ago, yeah.
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Oh, fine. A decade and a week ago.
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How did I do that? Why did I do that?
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That's very you.
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Can you stop talking over our women guests, Josh?
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Oh, God.
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Sorry, Suze.
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It's like being back on Mock the Week. About two
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times I did it.
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So we were in Chester doing a tour show and
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then we were doing, it must have been quite a
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small gig in Chester because you decided to double it
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with a weekend gig. And then they put me on
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as an open spot. But the guy who I had
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never seen before and have never seen since... couldn't remember
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my name and he'd written it on his hand and
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he went up next we've got uh we've got someone
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doing a shorter set and it is and then had
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to look at his hand but rather than sort of
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looking at quite casually he went got no problem with my.
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Hands at the moment sort of stretched his hand out
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to read it to read.
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My name and everyone was like oh okay and then
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it was like suzy ruffles It was so weird.
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Oh, God.
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And I could see, the room was small enough that
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I could see Josh.
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Delighted.
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Sort of guffawing at the back.
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Loving it, absolutely loving it.
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Absolutely dying. Good times, eh?
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How are you, Susie? We've moved on with our lives.
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We have.
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Tell us about your set-up at home.
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My set-up at home is that I'm currently having double-glazing
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windows put in, so I'm at Jen Brister's house.
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Oh, right.
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So you're not actually at home.
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I'm not living here.
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Someone's trying to fight the winter fuel bills going on.
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LAUGHTER Yeah.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Well, we moved into a house and it's really fucking cold.
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So we've got to get our windows done.
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So that's happened.
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Is it a Victorian build?
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It is, yeah.
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They're so pretty, aren't they? But fuckers.
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So pretty, but it's really cold.
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Really annoying.
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Really cold.
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I think everyone sort of does that, don't they? When
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they get out, go, I love a Victorian build with
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the high ceilings.
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Fuckers to heat. Yeah, absolutely.
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Welcome to my life.
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Windows need doing.
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Welcome to my life.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I'm as cold as I am at your house, Josh.
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It's terrible. So, like any good lesbian, I've popped around
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to Jim Brister's house because the sound's better here.
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There's not a key either. it just scans you and
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you get let in any lesbians within 15 miles are
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allowed in and out they just scan your shoes oh
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yeah she's done a bit of walking there you go
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hope she's broke them dock marketing's in get in they're
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comfy I did a gig in flip-flops once did you
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oh fuck off.
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Rob yeah and shorts Are you allowed to swear on this? Yeah,
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do what you want, mate, yeah. Oh, well, flip-flops on stage.
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There's no rules.
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Was it like someone was clapping? Because, you know, they
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sort of.
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As I walked off.
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Silence.
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Slow clapped off.
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Yeah, I don't know what that was. Sort of ignorance
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is bliss, arrogance, really.
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How long ago was this?
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Yeah, where were you?
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Oh, this was when I first started, probably the first
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year of comedy. I wouldn't do it now.
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No.
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I'd hope not.
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I've got slightly more respect for the art.
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But back then, I hated everyone and everything and just thought,
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fuck you, I'll do what I want.
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And it was really uncomfortable, actually, and I regretted it immediately. Anyway,
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how old's your daughter?
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She's coming up for three.
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Three.
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So we're beyond saying months.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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You know, you've hit that point, don't you? You've stopped
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fanning about with 22 months, 24 months.
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I think a two, that should stop.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Anyone that's going like 28, no, a two, that stops,
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I think.
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So nearly three. So she's chatty. She's fun. Her emotions
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are extreme.
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Are they? Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. You've got another year of that.
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Because you remember that bit where the joy is just
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so joyful.
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Yeah.
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And the rage is fucking terrifying.
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Yeah.
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I think three's worse than two. You know, it's in
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the terrible twos.
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I agree. Don't say that.
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I'm a month out. Don't say that.
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Yeah, I do.
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I think physically two's really bad because they're developing and
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they can run around and grab everything, but they don't
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really understand the communication of it to go like stop, no,
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and all that kind of thing. But at three, that's
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when psychologically it starts ramping up. And that only ever
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gets worse because you mentally get weaker and they get stronger.
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Yeah.
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Until you're dead.
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I think that's something to look forward to, Suze.
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This has been lovely. Thanks for having me. Yeah, great podcast. Congratulations, guys.
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Bye. Where is she today?
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Nursery.
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Nursery. How's it going at nursery?
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Loves it.
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Loves it. That's good.
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Loves it. Got a couple of mates.
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Got mates.
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Gets the bus, got a vape, stuff like that.
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How do you know about her vape?
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You're in South London now. They all vape from nursery.
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No, mate, I'm in Brighton now.
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Oh, you've moved to Brighton?
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We're off the vapes.
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Now she's got some wacky-backy. Oh, so that is windy
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with the Victorian windows.
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Windy, yes.
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Whipping off the sea. Straight in them little gaps.
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Yeah, exactly that. Exactly that. So she's quite into nursery.
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It's quite interesting, isn't it, at that point when they've
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got friends that you haven't introduced them to?
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Yes. So she'll talk about them, but you haven't met them?
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Yeah.
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What about a pick-up?
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I don't go in and introduce myself. You can't turn
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up at a pick-up with a couple of names and go,
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bring them out as well.
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I just want to have a look at them.
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Can I have a.
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Quick word with Barnaby? Yeah, go on, bring Steve and
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Jessica out and.
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Have a look.
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So, yeah, so she comes home and sort of says, like, oh, yeah,
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I was doing this and we hid some dinosaurs and.
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Yeah, and have you thought to capitalise and text... the
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parents of these kids to set up a play date.
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Oh yeah.
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Okay. And have you done it?
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Yeah, twice.
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And both of the mums were really nice. No, one
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of the mums was like, oh, I think our daughters
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are friends.
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And I was like, oh yeah, they are.
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And she was like, do you want to do something?
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And I was so relieved because we'd like only just
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moved to the area. And I was like, yes, please, please.
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Can I come to your house?
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I think everyone's awkward about it, but everyone's up for it.
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Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It's like freshers week.
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Also as well, when they get to school and nursery
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and stuff, it's a bit different with nursery because you're
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not really laying proper foundations down because you all know
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they're all going to piss off to a number of
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different schools, right? So I never bothered with nursery, but
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I've put a shift in with school. It's very interesting
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when there's sort of like maybe a kid in the
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class who's a bit annoying or being a bit naughty
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and then you go for a coffee with a parent
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and you sort of go, yeah, oh, so, so and so.
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And they go, yeah, yeah. And then everyone's all tiptoed
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around the fact going, He's a prick. He's a prick,
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isn't he? And we all think it. How can we
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extract our child away from that prick? We're in this together,
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me and you. But it's awkward if the mum of
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the prick is there.
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Yeah.
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Have you two become friends with anyone from school?
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Yes. Rob doesn't like the people from school, but I have.
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No, that's a lie.
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I'd say, yeah, I'm very matey with them. I go
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to the pub with them sometimes and I play football
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with them.
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Oh, that's quite friendly.
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But I'm in the market of losing friends at the moment.
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Consider it done, Rob.
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I'll delete your number later.
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LAUGHTER I'm quite up for increasing acquaintances through a promotion
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and a demotion.
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Okay. Have you got a one-in-one-out policy, Rob?
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Yeah, I'm sort of dropping them down, bringing them up to.
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Is this a transfer window?
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Yeah, so I'm like Chelsea, basically.
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I want a full squad of acquaintances, but I'm too
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stretched as it is to have somebody who's a friend.
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I think it's quite demanding being a friend.
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Isn't it?
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How many friends do you think you could have?
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I think four or five tops.
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Yeah.
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Four or five?
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Really?
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Good friends.
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That you can.
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Properly keep on top of and help out.
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And what do you consider a friend?
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Someone that messages you, that says, I'm going through a
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bad time, and you have to do more than go, oh,
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I hope you feel better soon.
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Oh, God, I've got no friends. LAUGHTER How many friends
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have you got, Susie?
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It sounds like I'm panicked to your seven.
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I've got, yeah, like Rob said, like a handful, maybe
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like six. I'd say that you're one of them, Josh.
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Yeah.
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No offence, Rob, I just never opened for you on
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the road where we had to really put in the
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years of friendship.
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No, no, no, no. You two have got more history.
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Is Tom Allen one? Yes, of course. Yeah. Yeah. If
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you had like a, I'm going to give you three scenarios.
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I want you to say whether you'd go to me
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or Tom Allen and then we'll get back to parenting.
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All three, Tom. Let's carry on.
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Yeah. Agreed. So have you met any of the friends?
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Do you approve of the friends?
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Yes.
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I met a few of the friends, which is really nice.
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And then there's obviously friends like Jen, whose house I'm
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at today.
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She's got two boys. I know that you've had her
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on the podcast years ago.
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So then there's the friends that we've sort of forced
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upon our daughter because we're.
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Like, well.
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Yes.
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I don't like those kind of friends.
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What?
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Do you mean?
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I much prefer, and I think Rob disagrees with me
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on this, I prefer the children to make the decision...
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and we have to deal with the parents, then we
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make the decision and the children have to deal with it.
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No, I agree with that, Josh. I'm on your side.
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Oh, OK.
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No, I agree. No, I want her to choose her friends.
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It doesn't sound like it.
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But also, I want to spend time with my friends.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And I can't leave her at home.
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Yes, but if the kids don't get on with each other,
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it doesn't even matter if you get on with the parents.
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Oh, yeah.
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The day's awful.
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Oh, no.
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If my kids are on holiday and they're getting on
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with other kids and they're quiet in the pool, I'll
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happily have a mimosa with Fred and Rose Weston. Let's
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not get bogged down by a pass. Let's just focus
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on the moment.
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God, how terrible for them to have that name. That
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must have been heartbreaking. I'm surprised they didn't change it.
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You've got to split up in that situation.
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Well, imagine, because there's lots of Wests. Imagine if you
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are a Rose and you like a guy called West.
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You're like, I can't marry you.
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Would you change your first name or your second name?
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No, you just keep your own. Just keep Shipman, whatever
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it is you've got. Anyway, back to your children or.
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Child, Susie.
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Child.
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I don't think I've got two.
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No, no.
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I was going to ask, is your partner working?
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Yes, we both work.
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Working full time.
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Yes.
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And you're going on tour. Your tour's coming up. So
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how are you?
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So Alice works four days a week. Yep. And then
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I try and have Wednesday where I'm not working.
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00:17:27.339 --> 00:17:27.470
Yep.
515
00:17:27.779 --> 00:17:29.559
But I get a day with her by myself. And
516
00:17:29.579 --> 00:17:31.920
then Alice gets a day with her by herself on Friday.
517
00:17:32.259 --> 00:17:34.440
And then we sort of juggle it. You know, my
518
00:17:34.480 --> 00:17:36.599
mum comes and helps. Alice's mum comes and helps.
519
00:17:36.720 --> 00:17:36.789
Yep.
520
00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:39.000
She does a bit in nursery as well, so it's
521
00:17:39.059 --> 00:17:40.380
all very up in the air.
522
00:17:40.759 --> 00:17:43.230
Is your nursery, you can just turn up when you like.
523
00:17:43.430 --> 00:17:43.930
Kind of thing?
524
00:17:44.150 --> 00:17:44.869
What do you mean?
525
00:17:45.390 --> 00:17:49.099
Midnight, have her with you.
526
00:17:49.150 --> 00:17:52.119
Oh, the big one. She won't go to sleep, fucking hell.
527
00:17:52.140 --> 00:17:54.039
It's not a 24-hour special station, Josh.
528
00:17:55.319 --> 00:17:56.940
Have you got set days at nursery?
529
00:17:57.380 --> 00:18:00.140
Yes, yes, yes, yes. Right, yeah. Yeah, so she's at
530
00:18:00.180 --> 00:18:02.920
nursery Monday, Tuesday, Thursday.
531
00:18:02.940 --> 00:18:03.259
Yeah.
532
00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:07.299
It's Mama Day on Wednesdays and it's Mummy Day on Fridays.
533
00:18:07.500 --> 00:18:09.180
So you're Mama and Alice is Mummy.
534
00:18:09.559 --> 00:18:11.480
I'm Mama and Alice is Mummy, yeah.
535
00:18:11.799 --> 00:18:12.789
How did you decide?
536
00:18:12.809 --> 00:18:15.440
I don't actually remember the conversation that we had.
537
00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:17.390
That's why you and Alice called each other anyway, isn't it?
538
00:18:17.730 --> 00:18:20.309
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it just worked. Yeah, exactly.
539
00:18:21.400 --> 00:18:21.740
Exactly.
540
00:18:21.779 --> 00:18:22.200
You know Alice.
541
00:18:22.220 --> 00:18:23.799
You call her Mummy weirdly as well, don't you? It's
542
00:18:23.819 --> 00:18:25.559
quite a weird dynamic with my friendship group.
543
00:18:25.720 --> 00:18:26.299
It's a bit weird.
544
00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:28.740
Josh calls all women that are older than him Mummy.
545
00:18:29.359 --> 00:18:32.369
He's working through it in therapy, but they haven't cracked
546
00:18:32.470 --> 00:18:32.750
it yet.
547
00:18:32.950 --> 00:18:35.329
And it really pissed off Lorraine Kelly, didn't it?
548
00:18:35.369 --> 00:18:37.170
Worst thing is Rose is a month older than me.
549
00:18:40.400 --> 00:18:41.359
So you've had lockdown.
550
00:18:41.380 --> 00:18:43.740
Yes. And then you've obviously been working and you're busy.
551
00:18:43.759 --> 00:18:44.759
You've got your podcast.
552
00:18:44.779 --> 00:18:47.720
You've been doing TV and live gigs and stuff. But
553
00:18:47.740 --> 00:18:49.200
now you're doing your big tour.
554
00:18:49.440 --> 00:18:49.579
Yes.
555
00:18:49.599 --> 00:18:51.029
And this is quite a big tour, a lot of dates.
556
00:18:51.109 --> 00:18:51.720
Is that correct?
557
00:18:51.829 --> 00:18:53.970
Yeah, it is. Yeah, it is quite a lot of dates.
558
00:18:53.990 --> 00:18:55.109
And when do you start?
559
00:18:55.569 --> 00:18:57.190
So I did an autumn leg of it and now
560
00:18:57.250 --> 00:18:58.490
it restarts in March.
561
00:18:58.809 --> 00:19:00.970
Yeah, so how is it being away from home?
562
00:19:01.289 --> 00:19:02.769
I find it quite hard being away.
563
00:19:03.299 --> 00:19:05.559
Snappy's a great title for a tour, by the way.
564
00:19:05.579 --> 00:19:06.039
Yeah, it's good.
565
00:19:06.079 --> 00:19:08.480
For a tour that you had to name six months
566
00:19:08.500 --> 00:19:09.579
before starting the writing on it.
567
00:19:09.579 --> 00:19:09.779
Oh, yeah.
568
00:19:10.410 --> 00:19:11.359
Oh mate, we've all been there.
569
00:19:11.500 --> 00:19:11.859
Wallop.
570
00:19:13.240 --> 00:19:16.779
So I, obviously for no gay couple was one of
571
00:19:16.859 --> 00:19:18.619
us having a baby an accident.
572
00:19:18.700 --> 00:19:21.440
But I think, you know, because it was a very
573
00:19:21.500 --> 00:19:24.339
planned thing for us to become mums, and it was
574
00:19:24.380 --> 00:19:27.380
something both of us had really, really wanted for a
575
00:19:27.400 --> 00:19:28.259
really long time.
576
00:19:28.819 --> 00:19:32.400
I knew once she came along, my work would sort
577
00:19:32.470 --> 00:19:34.970
of begin to take a back seat. And so with
578
00:19:35.009 --> 00:19:37.720
the tour... And with everything that I do now, really,
579
00:19:38.160 --> 00:19:41.160
it's like, what's the easiest way to do this as
580
00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:43.180
a family? So I only do a couple of days
581
00:19:43.200 --> 00:19:44.720
a week. So the tour is running on and on
582
00:19:44.769 --> 00:19:45.089
and on.
583
00:19:45.140 --> 00:19:45.490
Right.
584
00:19:45.650 --> 00:19:47.190
Because I only want to do a couple of days
585
00:19:47.230 --> 00:19:47.589
a week.
586
00:19:47.950 --> 00:19:48.250
Yeah.
587
00:19:48.309 --> 00:19:49.890
And I don't want to be away too much. You know,
588
00:19:49.910 --> 00:19:52.460
I time will come when she's less interested in me
589
00:19:52.480 --> 00:19:54.380
and I'll still be a stand-up then, you know, and
590
00:19:54.400 --> 00:19:56.240
I'll be going out on the road. So I think
591
00:19:56.500 --> 00:19:58.839
it was quite a long journey to us becoming mums.
592
00:19:59.000 --> 00:20:01.839
Are you coming home every night? Are you...? No.
593
00:20:02.240 --> 00:20:03.789
So I don't do more than two nights away.
594
00:20:03.809 --> 00:20:04.180
So if I do.
595
00:20:04.460 --> 00:20:04.789
I can do.
596
00:20:04.849 --> 00:20:07.650
I'll do as many as three nights, but then... I
597
00:20:07.670 --> 00:20:10.089
probably won't do any more that week unless it's there
598
00:20:10.170 --> 00:20:12.950
and back. And then I'll be home late on that night.
599
00:20:13.190 --> 00:20:14.950
But I just feel like at the moment she's so
600
00:20:15.009 --> 00:20:16.019
little that she.
601
00:20:15.990 --> 00:20:18.619
Gets quite upset. And then I can't bear it.
602
00:20:18.720 --> 00:20:20.859
And I'm leaving and she sort of goes, no work,
603
00:20:20.960 --> 00:20:23.940
no work. And it just breaks your heart.
604
00:20:24.240 --> 00:20:27.349
No work, no nursery, no dinner, no holidays. See you
605
00:20:27.369 --> 00:20:28.069
in two nights.
606
00:20:31.579 --> 00:20:33.480
You've moved away from London, right?
607
00:20:33.619 --> 00:20:34.069
Yeah.
608
00:20:34.440 --> 00:20:37.109
Was that a parenting decision, to spend more time with
609
00:20:37.150 --> 00:20:37.970
her and stuff like that?
610
00:20:37.990 --> 00:20:38.509
Yeah, do you know what?
611
00:20:38.549 --> 00:20:40.470
Part of it was because I was ready to leave London.
612
00:20:41.190 --> 00:20:43.369
And it was really expensive. We wanted to have a house.
613
00:20:44.109 --> 00:20:46.849
And we could get, not loads more in Brighton.
614
00:20:47.049 --> 00:20:48.470
I wanted to be closer to mum and dad. They're
615
00:20:48.490 --> 00:20:50.539
in Portsmouth. So they're an hour down the road now,
616
00:20:50.559 --> 00:20:53.420
which is lovely. And I really wanted her to have
617
00:20:53.460 --> 00:20:55.640
friends who had two mums or two dads. There's just
618
00:20:55.680 --> 00:20:57.480
more gay people here that have kids. And I just
619
00:20:57.519 --> 00:21:00.220
don't want her to ever feel... You know, I don't
620
00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:02.430
want to get out my tiny violin, but I know
621
00:21:02.470 --> 00:21:03.990
that when I was growing up, I found it really
622
00:21:04.049 --> 00:21:05.230
hard feeling different.
623
00:21:05.250 --> 00:21:07.789
I felt really isolated. I felt really.
624
00:21:07.589 --> 00:21:11.259
Alone for my sort of teen years. And so I
625
00:21:11.299 --> 00:21:12.799
just never want her to feel like that. I never
626
00:21:12.839 --> 00:21:14.900
want her, not that I'm saying she'll be gay. You know,
627
00:21:14.900 --> 00:21:16.779
100% of the friends I've got that are gay have
628
00:21:16.799 --> 00:21:19.460
straight parents. If anything, you lot are doing it. But
629
00:21:20.160 --> 00:21:22.700
I just never want her to feel like a massive outsider.
630
00:21:22.740 --> 00:21:25.529
I wanted her to know people that were like us.
631
00:21:25.569 --> 00:21:25.750
Yeah.
632
00:21:25.910 --> 00:21:27.789
Because it is a new thing, really, isn't it? For
633
00:21:27.849 --> 00:21:30.069
our generation, it's happening a lot.
634
00:21:30.210 --> 00:21:30.930
Yeah, totally.
635
00:21:30.950 --> 00:21:34.099
But when we were kids, which was only sort of 15,
636
00:21:34.099 --> 00:21:37.359
20 years ago, no one, not even on the news,
637
00:21:37.559 --> 00:21:41.019
like in LA, like, you know, these famous actors are
638
00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:41.339
doing it.
639
00:21:41.480 --> 00:21:42.849
Yeah, exactly. It was nowhere.
640
00:21:42.869 --> 00:21:45.109
And like you say, because it was South London, was
641
00:21:45.150 --> 00:21:45.869
it Sydenham Way?
642
00:21:45.890 --> 00:21:46.730
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
643
00:21:46.849 --> 00:21:49.130
Where, like, even, like, where I'm in Bromley, and I
644
00:21:49.150 --> 00:21:51.210
know Josh laughs, but that's sort of London. It's not
645
00:21:51.230 --> 00:21:53.430
in the middle of nowhere. But the gender roles are
646
00:21:53.670 --> 00:21:56.619
really still quite stuck on round where we live. It's like,
647
00:21:57.220 --> 00:21:59.839
I'll have mates who are in their 50s, like, or
648
00:21:59.920 --> 00:22:01.859
friends of friends or people I've met, they'll go, like, oh,
649
00:22:01.880 --> 00:22:03.480
don't your wife cook then? And I'm like, well, no,
650
00:22:03.539 --> 00:22:05.440
I do the cooking more in our family.
651
00:22:05.460 --> 00:22:07.700
He's like, really? I'm like, sorry, are you an alien?
652
00:22:07.740 --> 00:22:08.140
Yeah.
653
00:22:08.220 --> 00:22:12.029
Yes, I do cook more. In our house because I
654
00:22:12.230 --> 00:22:14.430
enjoy it more and Lou doesn't really like cooking. And
655
00:22:14.910 --> 00:22:16.950
we're both two adults that like do things we like,
656
00:22:17.549 --> 00:22:19.769
you know. And so I do think if you went
657
00:22:19.809 --> 00:22:21.950
to a school in South East London and both your
658
00:22:21.970 --> 00:22:24.640
parents were the same sex, it would be more problematic
659
00:22:24.960 --> 00:22:26.480
than it would be in Brighton.
660
00:22:27.140 --> 00:22:28.160
Yeah, I think you're right.
661
00:22:28.240 --> 00:22:30.619
And I think like exactly what you're saying, because of
662
00:22:30.980 --> 00:22:32.579
growing up when we all grew up, you know, we're
663
00:22:32.599 --> 00:22:35.960
a similar age. I never thought that I could be
664
00:22:36.029 --> 00:22:36.349
a mum.
665
00:22:36.490 --> 00:22:36.650
Yeah.
666
00:22:37.210 --> 00:22:39.109
It's actually why I always put so much into like
667
00:22:39.190 --> 00:22:41.910
my career and like I need to achieve. I need
668
00:22:41.930 --> 00:22:44.400
to succeed in some way, almost in a way like, oh,
669
00:22:44.450 --> 00:22:45.880
I need to give something for my mum and dad
670
00:22:45.920 --> 00:22:47.900
to be proud of because I don't think I'm going
671
00:22:47.920 --> 00:22:48.940
to make them grandparents.
672
00:22:49.140 --> 00:22:50.339
Oh, that's a big pressure.
673
00:22:50.619 --> 00:22:52.660
Because it just didn't feel like it was something that
674
00:22:52.680 --> 00:22:54.759
was possible for me. And like however you do it
675
00:22:54.839 --> 00:22:59.519
as a queer person, whether you do, you know, surrogacy, IVF, adoption,
676
00:22:59.779 --> 00:23:03.789
whichever route you go down. It is, like, an emotional
677
00:23:03.930 --> 00:23:07.130
and quite often financial huge expense.
678
00:23:07.490 --> 00:23:10.970
And do you find that you... Now, is there, like,
679
00:23:11.220 --> 00:23:13.519
any questions from her? Or does there any, like.
680
00:23:13.559 --> 00:23:16.839
Not yet. Not yet. We've got lots of books that are, like,
681
00:23:17.180 --> 00:23:17.900
to dad.
682
00:23:17.920 --> 00:23:18.980
We've got Alfred and Albert.
683
00:23:19.259 --> 00:23:20.220
Is that the Penguin one?
684
00:23:20.420 --> 00:23:22.619
No, it's two Aardvarks.
685
00:23:23.130 --> 00:23:24.390
Oh, no. Then no, I haven't.
686
00:23:24.710 --> 00:23:26.210
Oh, I'd highly recommend it. It's great.
687
00:23:26.410 --> 00:23:27.210
Oh, send me a copy.
688
00:23:27.230 --> 00:23:29.089
It's, like, two Aardvarks that fall in love.
689
00:23:29.730 --> 00:23:30.450
Oh, love it.
690
00:23:30.650 --> 00:23:32.400
Yeah. Yeah, anyway, sorry.
691
00:23:32.740 --> 00:23:33.529
No, I enjoyed that.
692
00:23:33.569 --> 00:23:35.549
What a strange distraction from me.
693
00:23:35.829 --> 00:23:38.130
I just can't believe there's just so many animals in it.
694
00:23:38.589 --> 00:23:38.890
Yeah.
695
00:23:38.910 --> 00:23:40.230
It's like the penguin one.
696
00:23:40.250 --> 00:23:42.269
No, have you got the giraffe one? Yeah. What about
697
00:23:42.289 --> 00:23:42.569
the hippo one?
698
00:23:42.589 --> 00:23:44.759
Well, I think it came because there were penguins in
699
00:23:44.799 --> 00:23:45.920
London Zoo that were gay.
700
00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:46.500
Right.
701
00:23:46.539 --> 00:23:48.019
And I think that's, I don't know whether, no, that
702
00:23:48.059 --> 00:23:49.299
might not be right that that's where that came from.
703
00:23:49.339 --> 00:23:50.900
But there was like a big story in the news.
704
00:23:50.940 --> 00:23:53.019
And did they adopt or do surrogacy at London Zoo?
705
00:23:53.059 --> 00:23:53.160
What?
706
00:23:54.490 --> 00:23:56.569
.
707
00:23:56.289 --> 00:23:59.190
.
708
00:23:58.869 --> 00:24:00.390
.
709
00:24:00.109 --> 00:24:01.950

710
00:24:02.009 --> 00:24:03.549
.
711
00:24:03.430 --> 00:24:04.710

712
00:24:04.730 --> 00:24:05.960
.
713
00:24:05.599 --> 00:24:07.059

714
00:24:07.079 --> 00:24:08.839

715
00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:11.619

716
00:24:11.640 --> 00:24:14.339
.
717
00:24:14.180 --> 00:24:16.180
.
718
00:24:16.089 --> 00:24:22.150
Where's the quiz?
719
00:24:22.470 --> 00:24:24.910
So there are no other gay parents at the school? No, no,
720
00:24:24.930 --> 00:24:25.630
but we've got lots.
721
00:24:25.529 --> 00:24:28.599
Of friends that are gay parents. And, you know, there's
722
00:24:28.619 --> 00:24:30.940
lots of people in her life. You know, there's lots
723
00:24:30.980 --> 00:24:32.779
of different kinds of families in our life. More than anything,
724
00:24:32.799 --> 00:24:34.460
we just want to be like, look, there's lots of options.
725
00:24:34.599 --> 00:24:37.119
And then, obviously, we've got lots of friends that are gay.
726
00:24:37.180 --> 00:24:39.299
She knows Tom really well. She calls him Pom Pom,
727
00:24:40.059 --> 00:24:41.660
which I think suits him even more.
728
00:24:41.779 --> 00:24:43.640
What's Tom Allen like as a fun uncle?
729
00:24:43.920 --> 00:24:45.029
He's really good with her.
730
00:24:45.250 --> 00:24:45.490
Is he?
731
00:24:45.890 --> 00:24:48.289
He's really good with her, yeah. He's really, really sweet.
732
00:24:48.660 --> 00:24:51.039
Although she went to a pride party at his house.
733
00:24:51.680 --> 00:24:55.490
I was away working and she went into the garden
734
00:24:55.950 --> 00:24:57.730
and Tom had like done it all up with like
735
00:24:58.109 --> 00:25:01.589
rainbows and flags and loads of stuff. And she ran
736
00:25:01.650 --> 00:25:05.039
into the garden and at the top of her lungs
737
00:25:05.359 --> 00:25:08.279
at a pride party was when we found out in
738
00:25:08.319 --> 00:25:10.599
real time that she can't say flag.
739
00:25:10.980 --> 00:25:13.740
So she just ran.
740
00:25:13.460 --> 00:25:20.630
Into Tom's garden and went, fags, fags, so many fags.
741
00:25:22.029 --> 00:25:25.019
I mean, absolute nightmare.
742
00:25:25.140 --> 00:25:27.400
I'll tell you what. Flags.
743
00:25:27.579 --> 00:25:29.200
She's saying flags. She's saying flags, guys.
744
00:25:29.220 --> 00:25:31.680
It's lucky she's your daughter there because they're not going
745
00:25:31.700 --> 00:25:32.380
to blame the parents.
746
00:25:32.420 --> 00:25:33.099
If it was yours.
747
00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:33.400
Yeah.
748
00:25:34.529 --> 00:25:36.960
What are they saying behind closed doors? But yes, so
749
00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:38.700
I think that was definitely part of the moving here.
750
00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:39.819
And I think it's a nice place to grow up.
751
00:25:39.839 --> 00:25:40.819
I grew up by the seaside.
752
00:25:40.839 --> 00:25:41.779
It sort of.
753
00:25:41.700 --> 00:25:44.940
Felt like a decision for us as well. Like I
754
00:25:44.980 --> 00:25:47.069
think when you do a job like ours, it can
755
00:25:47.109 --> 00:25:49.670
be all encompassing. And I think it's different for different people.
756
00:25:49.690 --> 00:25:51.869
But I think for me, when it is completely all
757
00:25:51.890 --> 00:25:53.849
encompassing is actually at the time when I'm at my
758
00:25:53.890 --> 00:25:54.410
least funny.
759
00:25:55.289 --> 00:25:56.769
And at my most anxious.
760
00:25:56.789 --> 00:25:57.650
Yeah, yeah.
761
00:25:57.849 --> 00:26:00.430
It sort of defines you as you are the comedian,
762
00:26:00.470 --> 00:26:04.589
not Susie the mum or the wife or the friend. Yeah, exactly.
763
00:26:04.609 --> 00:26:07.369
And all they ask you about is what's so-and-so like
764
00:26:07.410 --> 00:26:09.549
off the telly or why aren't you on the telly?
765
00:26:09.569 --> 00:26:10.450
All those things, yeah.
766
00:26:10.470 --> 00:26:12.069
But if you say you're a comedian, it's either why
767
00:26:12.150 --> 00:26:14.150
haven't I seen you on the telly or it's what
768
00:26:14.170 --> 00:26:15.470
are they like off the telly?
769
00:26:15.609 --> 00:26:17.589
Yeah, or I don't like this person.
770
00:26:17.630 --> 00:26:19.089
Yeah, whatever it is. And it's sort of like.
771
00:26:19.390 --> 00:26:21.049
And you have to start going, well, comedy's about opinion
772
00:26:21.089 --> 00:26:22.390
and everyone's sort of good in their own way.
773
00:26:22.410 --> 00:26:25.549
And that sort of triggers your ego to be like, oh,
774
00:26:25.589 --> 00:26:27.609
more than that. Actually, it's quite difficult to book. There's
775
00:26:27.630 --> 00:26:29.210
not as many panel shows anymore than there was 10
776
00:26:29.210 --> 00:26:29.589
years ago.
777
00:26:32.009 --> 00:26:36.349
You know, you can be totally defined and just obsessed
778
00:26:36.470 --> 00:26:39.839
with a job like this because there's not... a point
779
00:26:39.960 --> 00:26:43.220
where you go oh you've reached the next you're.
780
00:26:43.039 --> 00:26:45.740
At where you want to be manager level.
781
00:26:45.279 --> 00:26:47.400
Or you're at you know oh you're now.
782
00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:49.640
A partner or you've got a team that can take
783
00:26:49.660 --> 00:26:51.880
some of the workload you can't send off a little
784
00:26:51.920 --> 00:26:55.829
suzy ruffle disciple to bradford i'd love to go yeah
785
00:26:55.869 --> 00:26:57.390
do the show for me tonight i've got things to
786
00:26:57.450 --> 00:26:59.269
mop up with the new york office.
787
00:27:00.230 --> 00:27:02.069
But it's all those things and then i think that
788
00:27:02.230 --> 00:27:05.039
moving out of london and it being a choice for
789
00:27:05.130 --> 00:27:08.579
our family rather than and you know alice's has the
790
00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:10.720
patience of a fucking saint you know for the first
791
00:27:10.759 --> 00:27:13.740
five years of our relationship it was about my job
792
00:27:13.980 --> 00:27:16.250
yeah or four years of our relationship was about my
793
00:27:16.269 --> 00:27:19.410
job was about her being available when i wasn't working
794
00:27:19.430 --> 00:27:21.710
yeah yeah and i think when we decided we wanted
795
00:27:21.730 --> 00:27:25.269
to become mums and we started the journey of parenthood
796
00:27:25.309 --> 00:27:27.089
and getting there and working out how we were going
797
00:27:27.109 --> 00:27:28.509
to get there. We sort of had to have a
798
00:27:28.529 --> 00:27:31.599
conversation where she had to be like, okay, so it's
799
00:27:31.630 --> 00:27:32.720
not all about your career anymore.
800
00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:34.039
Yeah. Which is really good.
801
00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:36.099
How did you feel at that point? I'm out.
802
00:27:39.000 --> 00:27:40.079
Does Alice work from home then?
803
00:27:40.380 --> 00:27:42.079
Alice works from home and then she goes into London
804
00:27:42.099 --> 00:27:43.039
sort of once a week.
805
00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:43.940
That's handy.
806
00:27:44.380 --> 00:27:44.680
Yeah.
807
00:27:44.839 --> 00:27:48.529
You know, she's very much the, she keeps us alive.
808
00:27:49.150 --> 00:27:50.210
She makes sure there's everything.
809
00:27:50.250 --> 00:27:52.069
She's doing all the mental load, Susie. Do you know
810
00:27:52.089 --> 00:27:52.990
what the mental load is?
811
00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:54.380
Is it what I used to do when we were
812
00:27:54.420 --> 00:27:55.039
on tour for you?
813
00:27:55.079 --> 00:27:58.819
No, it's not. Oh, my God. How's this background on me?
814
00:27:59.240 --> 00:28:01.769
I'm joking. Come on, Josh. Talk to me about the
815
00:28:01.809 --> 00:28:02.529
mental load, Josh.
816
00:28:03.069 --> 00:28:06.250
It's stuff like remembering when a friend's birthday is.
817
00:28:06.690 --> 00:28:08.450
Or what the kids need at school that week.
818
00:28:08.730 --> 00:28:10.910
Yes, I think so. I'm trying to do more of that.
819
00:28:10.950 --> 00:28:13.309
But Alice is sort of the lead on that issue
820
00:28:13.430 --> 00:28:14.069
in your relationship.
821
00:28:14.470 --> 00:28:15.670
She's definitely the lead.
822
00:28:15.690 --> 00:28:16.430
Who does the bins?
823
00:28:16.849 --> 00:28:17.559
I do the bins.
824
00:28:17.690 --> 00:28:18.470
Yeah, OK, cool.
825
00:28:18.819 --> 00:28:20.579
Do you like the bins? I think it's a good job,
826
00:28:20.619 --> 00:28:21.019
the bins.
827
00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:22.579
I like doing the recycling.
828
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:23.200
Do you?
829
00:28:23.319 --> 00:28:24.240
I don't mind breaking down a box.
830
00:28:24.319 --> 00:28:26.180
Oh, that's a big job in Brighton, isn't it? How
831
00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:27.990
many bins have you got? I've got three on the go.
832
00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:29.819
It's all separate, isn't it? Three on the go, okay.
833
00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:31.460
Oh, you know it. We've got a green MP, mate.
834
00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:33.200
Oh, you've got a green MP? The bins is a
835
00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:35.240
huge job. The bins is massive.
836
00:28:35.259 --> 00:28:37.819
I've got to drive the lorry. You have to recycle
837
00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:38.420
it yourself.
838
00:28:38.539 --> 00:28:40.640
It's on a rotating system. Everyone gets a go.
839
00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:46.160
What was it like with Josh on tour? Do you
840
00:28:46.180 --> 00:28:47.539
think he'd be a good parent when you used to
841
00:28:47.579 --> 00:28:49.220
see him sort of living his life?
842
00:28:49.980 --> 00:28:50.640
Oh, yeah.
843
00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:52.480
I mean, we had such a good time on tour.
844
00:28:52.619 --> 00:28:55.299
We're really good mates and Josh was always enormously supportive
845
00:28:55.359 --> 00:28:56.960
of me and my stand-up.
846
00:28:56.980 --> 00:28:58.839
But did you see him as a parent? Yeah, because
847
00:28:58.859 --> 00:28:59.200
you know what?
848
00:28:59.220 --> 00:29:00.299
There were times... Do you remember when I had that
849
00:29:00.339 --> 00:29:01.240
terrible break-up?
850
00:29:01.400 --> 00:29:01.859
Oh, yeah.
851
00:29:02.099 --> 00:29:04.940
You were very loving and very, like, warm and sort
852
00:29:05.009 --> 00:29:05.869
of paternal.
853
00:29:05.890 --> 00:29:08.250
Yeah, but also, didn't you all stay in a spooky
854
00:29:08.289 --> 00:29:09.650
hotel and he asked to get in your bed?
855
00:29:09.670 --> 00:29:09.750
Yeah.
856
00:29:10.289 --> 00:29:11.829
No, no, it wasn't quite like that.
857
00:29:11.869 --> 00:29:13.930
No, no, no, no. I had a second bed in
858
00:29:13.950 --> 00:29:15.240
my room and I asked her to get in there.
859
00:29:15.259 --> 00:29:15.579
Did you?
860
00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:20.440
Okay, so we're in... You've done the theatre in Buxton. Yes, yes.
861
00:29:20.799 --> 00:29:21.460
Lovely theatre.
862
00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:24.819
Okay, so we were staying opposite and it did look
863
00:29:24.859 --> 00:29:27.079
like the hotel from The Shining and it had been snowing.
864
00:29:27.099 --> 00:29:27.940
Okay.
865
00:29:28.119 --> 00:29:30.109
And so we were winding each other up on the
866
00:29:30.140 --> 00:29:32.730
way back being like, oh, I hope it's not haunted. Oh,
867
00:29:32.730 --> 00:29:34.990
you know, that sort of thing. And anyway, then I
868
00:29:35.009 --> 00:29:37.369
get into bed and I'm a real wimp.
869
00:29:37.509 --> 00:29:38.069
Right, okay.
870
00:29:38.089 --> 00:29:40.839
And I'm quite frightened. And then my phone.
871
00:29:40.599 --> 00:29:43.609
Rings For some reason, I think you did the.
872
00:29:43.869 --> 00:29:46.589
He rang the room phone rather than my mobile.
873
00:29:46.609 --> 00:29:48.250
The room phone, which is more spooky.
874
00:29:48.390 --> 00:29:49.650
Oh, that's terrifying.
875
00:29:49.710 --> 00:29:53.059
Which is really weird. So I'm in bed, the room
876
00:29:53.099 --> 00:29:54.039
phone rings.
877
00:29:54.339 --> 00:29:55.119
Oh, my God.
878
00:29:55.160 --> 00:29:57.160
And it's him going, all right, Rafa, I know this
879
00:29:57.200 --> 00:30:00.059
isn't on your job, Rebert, but would you fancy sharing
880
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:00.599
a room with me tonight?
881
00:30:00.619 --> 00:30:04.339
I'm fucking terrified. And I assumed that he would be like,
882
00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:05.599
never tell anyone that.
883
00:30:05.619 --> 00:30:06.880
But the next day he was on the phone to
884
00:30:06.940 --> 00:30:10.049
our agent, Flo, going, it was really haunted where we stayed.
885
00:30:10.109 --> 00:30:11.910
I didn't like it. Can we make sure that we're
886
00:30:11.950 --> 00:30:13.650
in chains from now on?
887
00:30:13.710 --> 00:30:19.609
Chain hotels, not in chains. So, Susie, are you the disciplinarian?
888
00:30:19.809 --> 00:30:22.019
I feel like that's Alice, and you're trying to be
889
00:30:22.059 --> 00:30:23.579
liked and fun. Is that fair?
890
00:30:23.779 --> 00:30:26.000
Yeah, I'd say so. Yeah, I'd say that's bang on
891
00:30:26.019 --> 00:30:26.279
the money.
892
00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:27.420
Are you good at discipline?
893
00:30:29.009 --> 00:30:31.069
Yes, I mean, I try to be. It's quite hard,
894
00:30:31.109 --> 00:30:31.369
isn't it?
895
00:30:31.369 --> 00:30:32.970
I don't think I've ever seen you not smiling.
896
00:30:33.569 --> 00:30:36.450
Well, I can get cross. You just watch it, Rob. Okay.
897
00:30:36.470 --> 00:30:39.019
But, no, I think I do this thing where I
898
00:30:39.119 --> 00:30:43.400
count backwards, where I go five, four, three, two. I mean,
899
00:30:43.420 --> 00:30:43.920
you know how it goes.
900
00:30:43.940 --> 00:30:44.900
Yeah, yeah, yeah. All the way to zero, yeah?
901
00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:48.000
And for a little while, she was like, oh, no.
902
00:30:48.660 --> 00:30:50.900
I better do whatever she's asked me to do. Anyway, eventually,
903
00:30:51.089 --> 00:30:52.490
she one day let me get to one.
904
00:30:52.549 --> 00:30:53.029
Nothing happened.
905
00:30:53.049 --> 00:30:55.549
And then she was like, oh, nothing's happened. So now,
906
00:30:55.890 --> 00:30:57.009
I was like, okay, I'm back on it. She looks
907
00:30:57.029 --> 00:30:59.569
at me like, what are you doing? This is really embarrassing.
908
00:30:59.589 --> 00:30:59.670
Yeah.
909
00:31:00.589 --> 00:31:01.490
And so what do you do?
910
00:31:01.789 --> 00:31:04.710
I just say things like, well, this is very disappointing.
911
00:31:05.190 --> 00:31:07.309
I know what a good girl you are. I know
912
00:31:07.349 --> 00:31:09.470
you can be a good girl. But the other day,
913
00:31:09.490 --> 00:31:11.559
she walked past the cat on the radiator and went,
914
00:31:11.890 --> 00:31:12.819
don't do that again.
915
00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:15.259
I know you're a good girl. And carried on walking.
916
00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:16.339
She's a good cat.
917
00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:17.440
Amazing.
918
00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:20.660
And then you really see your parenting reflected back at you.
919
00:31:20.680 --> 00:31:23.039
You're like, oh, God, don't I have it about that?
920
00:31:23.079 --> 00:31:25.279
You do hear them saying things in your tone of
921
00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:27.339
voice and the things you've said, and it's hilarious.
922
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:30.819
Yeah, don't do that. That is actually dangerous. Things like that.
923
00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:32.440
You were big on the cat, weren't you?
924
00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:33.460
I was big on the cat.
925
00:31:33.910 --> 00:31:34.470
You love the cat.
926
00:31:34.509 --> 00:31:36.630
I really lean into my own cliches. Go on.
927
00:31:36.670 --> 00:31:39.970
So how's the cat adapted to a child being in
928
00:31:40.019 --> 00:31:40.190
the house?
929
00:31:40.359 --> 00:31:41.339
Absolutely livid.
930
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:41.910
Really?
931
00:31:42.410 --> 00:31:43.920
Really angry about it. So I think when.
932
00:31:44.059 --> 00:31:45.119
Was the cat in the bed at night?
933
00:31:45.140 --> 00:31:45.859
She was in the bed in the.
934
00:31:45.819 --> 00:31:48.059
Night before Alice came on the scene. So the cat
935
00:31:48.140 --> 00:31:49.400
predates the wife.
936
00:31:49.539 --> 00:31:51.819
Oh, the cat's an absolute nightmare.
937
00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:54.920
Cats don't die either. They fucking drag it out, don't.
938
00:31:56.140 --> 00:31:56.619
They?
939
00:31:56.700 --> 00:32:00.880
It's like Game of Thrones. Fucking wrap it up. You're 17, mate.
940
00:32:00.900 --> 00:32:03.319
You can't see. You fall off a chair. Fucking hell.
941
00:32:07.660 --> 00:32:10.869
So the cat predates everyone even you even me yeah
942
00:32:11.029 --> 00:32:11.630
you moved.
943
00:32:11.470 --> 00:32:13.970
In with the cat yeah It used to sit on
944
00:32:13.990 --> 00:32:15.859
the top of Stonehenge when it was being built, this cat.
945
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:16.380
It's a sphinx.
946
00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:20.900
I saw an ad in Spare Room, must like cats.
947
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:24.940
I thought, yeah, that's for me. So I've had the
948
00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:28.430
cat for about nine years and there was a time
949
00:32:28.869 --> 00:32:30.549
when the cat was in bed with me and it
950
00:32:30.589 --> 00:32:31.190
was just me.
951
00:32:31.130 --> 00:32:31.650
And the cat.
952
00:32:32.250 --> 00:32:33.990
And then Alice moved in and the cat was like,
953
00:32:34.150 --> 00:32:36.839
who is this bitch? And then Alice was like, I
954
00:32:36.859 --> 00:32:38.480
think the cat needs to sleep in the lounge.
955
00:32:38.579 --> 00:32:40.420
Oh, Alice, I don't think you've got the decision. I
956
00:32:40.420 --> 00:32:43.430
love how in charge Alice is. You are whipped and
957
00:32:43.470 --> 00:32:47.410
I love it. You are Alice fucking ruling the roost.
958
00:32:47.529 --> 00:32:50.170
Fuck off, cat. Get out.
959
00:32:50.650 --> 00:32:51.450
She had a point.
960
00:32:51.470 --> 00:32:53.630
To move in and then move the cat out.
961
00:32:53.650 --> 00:32:55.130
Well, the cat was very loving to me, but she
962
00:32:55.190 --> 00:32:56.210
used to bite Alice.
963
00:32:56.230 --> 00:32:56.839
Oh, yeah, I bet she bloody did.
964
00:32:56.849 --> 00:32:58.599
When Alice was asleep, she'd bite her toes.
965
00:32:58.970 --> 00:32:59.460
Really?
966
00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:00.119
Yeah.
967
00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:02.980
Our cat comes in at night now and sleeps on
968
00:33:03.019 --> 00:33:07.039
our bed, which I like. But from about 5.30am, she
969
00:33:07.420 --> 00:33:08.740
paws at our faces.
970
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:11.480
That cat's got to go. The cat's waking you up
971
00:33:11.500 --> 00:33:12.039
before the kids.
972
00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:14.849
You want Alice round. She's like super nanny, but with cats.
973
00:33:15.130 --> 00:33:16.910
Right, so how did you get rid of the cat
974
00:33:16.970 --> 00:33:17.970
from the bedroom, Susie?
975
00:33:17.990 --> 00:33:18.769
Oh, we've got doors.
976
00:33:19.069 --> 00:33:20.910
You've got doors? Okay, just no windows.
977
00:33:21.089 --> 00:33:22.589
No, we've got windows. They're just fucking cold.
978
00:33:23.630 --> 00:33:25.609
So does the cat like Alice now?
979
00:33:25.630 --> 00:33:27.269
The cat likes Alice now, but the cat now... But
980
00:33:27.289 --> 00:33:28.710
doesn't the cat scratch on the bedroom door?
981
00:33:28.849 --> 00:33:29.190
No.
982
00:33:29.210 --> 00:33:29.869
Right.
983
00:33:30.049 --> 00:33:32.769
The cat now is she will take any kind of
984
00:33:32.829 --> 00:33:33.710
love from anyone.
985
00:33:33.730 --> 00:33:35.470
Yeah, because it's been cut off from you.
986
00:33:35.490 --> 00:33:38.410
Because I think that she thought we were doing up
987
00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:40.200
the spare room for her.
988
00:33:40.220 --> 00:33:44.549
OK. I think she was, like, brilliant.
989
00:33:44.589 --> 00:33:47.190
They finally got me a massive bed. Yeah. And, like,
990
00:33:47.210 --> 00:33:48.809
we were putting the cot up and stuff. And she
991
00:33:48.849 --> 00:33:50.170
was getting in the cot and we were getting her
992
00:33:50.190 --> 00:33:51.380
out of the cot. And I think she was like,
993
00:33:51.390 --> 00:33:52.940
why are they playing hard to get my new bed?
994
00:33:53.220 --> 00:33:54.720
And then, of course, we brought home a baby.
995
00:33:54.740 --> 00:33:54.819
Yeah.
996
00:33:55.140 --> 00:33:57.099
And she was like, what the fuck is this?
997
00:33:57.119 --> 00:33:57.599
Oh, God.
998
00:33:57.640 --> 00:34:02.220
What's this? Keep crying. shouting, trying to grab my towel.
999
00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:03.460
And did he just go out and get out of
1000
00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:05.440
the way, the cat? Has he got an outdoor cat
1001
00:34:05.500 --> 00:34:06.099
or just a house cat?
1002
00:34:06.140 --> 00:34:07.119
No, it's an indoor one.
1003
00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:09.719
Oh, the worst kind. Fucking chuck it out. Let it
1004
00:34:09.780 --> 00:34:12.099
live its life. If you don't come back, that's on
1005
00:34:12.139 --> 00:34:14.219
the cat. That's the way I think of cats. Fucking
1006
00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:16.610
let them go. Open the door. If they go, they go.
1007
00:34:16.650 --> 00:34:17.230
Where's Alan?
1008
00:34:17.409 --> 00:34:18.750
Is he an outdoor or an indoor, Rob?
1009
00:34:18.869 --> 00:34:19.510
He's outdoor.
1010
00:34:19.690 --> 00:34:20.510
And where does he sleep?
1011
00:34:20.630 --> 00:34:22.170
Is Alan a cat? I thought you had a dog.
1012
00:34:22.630 --> 00:34:24.269
Got a cat and a dog, mate. Both hate each other.
1013
00:34:24.530 --> 00:34:26.050
The cat basically lives in a utility room now. And
1014
00:34:26.530 --> 00:34:28.070
haven't you got like a little whippet?
1015
00:34:28.449 --> 00:34:29.110
And a whippet, yeah.
1016
00:34:29.530 --> 00:34:32.300
The worst kind of dog for a cat friend. But
1017
00:34:32.340 --> 00:34:34.599
we've got like a kid gate on the utility room.
1018
00:34:34.940 --> 00:34:36.179
So the dog can see the cat, the cat can
1019
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:38.380
see the dog. But the dog could jump the gate,
1020
00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:40.920
but just doesn't. He's like, he doesn't believe in himself enough.
1021
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:43.079
It feels like a sort of a feel good film
1022
00:34:43.099 --> 00:34:44.780
that like, if he got his confidence up, he'd jump
1023
00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:45.090
the gate.
1024
00:34:45.429 --> 00:34:47.369
But he can't. And the cat is on the other side.
1025
00:34:47.409 --> 00:34:48.670
Got a cat flap, comes in and out.
1026
00:34:48.650 --> 00:34:51.030
When it wants. Nice warm utility room. It's under floor heating.
1027
00:34:51.050 --> 00:34:51.449
It's going all right.
1028
00:34:51.469 --> 00:34:51.949
Part of the kitchen.
1029
00:34:52.190 --> 00:34:53.170
He's going all right. He's having a good life.
1030
00:34:53.469 --> 00:34:55.769
But we'll occasionally, when the dog's asleep, we'll jump over
1031
00:34:55.789 --> 00:34:58.369
the little fence and go somewhere for a warm sleep
1032
00:34:58.429 --> 00:35:00.230
upstairs because the dog's not allowed upstairs.
1033
00:35:00.309 --> 00:35:02.389
How does the dog know it's not allowed upstairs? Have
1034
00:35:02.409 --> 00:35:03.079
you got another gate?
1035
00:35:03.099 --> 00:35:04.320
Yeah, another kid gate at the bottom.
1036
00:35:04.380 --> 00:35:06.480
Fucking hell. Your house sounds like a prison.
1037
00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:07.739
Yeah, it is really.
1038
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:09.280
But the cat can go out and the cat does
1039
00:35:09.300 --> 00:35:10.840
go out quite a lot. I feel like an indoor
1040
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:13.820
cat's got sort of like segregation prison vibe. I feel
1041
00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:14.480
like it could flip.
1042
00:35:14.500 --> 00:35:16.500
Yeah, I don't think I'd get another indoor cat.
1043
00:35:16.539 --> 00:35:18.519
It's not an indoor cat. You've made it an indoor cat.
1044
00:35:18.539 --> 00:35:20.440
No, no, no. It's like a breed that doesn't really
1045
00:35:20.460 --> 00:35:23.409
go outside that much because... She's really small.
1046
00:35:23.630 --> 00:35:24.369
What breed is it?
1047
00:35:24.429 --> 00:35:25.570
It's called a Cornish Rex.
1048
00:35:25.710 --> 00:35:28.289
A Cornish Rex? That sounds like a cheese that costs
1049
00:35:28.289 --> 00:35:29.010
15 quid.
1050
00:35:29.670 --> 00:35:31.289
I haven't done the genealogy of her.
1051
00:35:31.329 --> 00:35:31.969
Cornish Rex.
1052
00:35:32.050 --> 00:35:32.610
Cornish Rex.
1053
00:35:32.750 --> 00:35:34.289
Oh, yeah, yeah, it is a Cornish Rex.
1054
00:35:34.570 --> 00:35:37.989
Oh, my fucking God. What is that? That's a cat.
1055
00:35:38.010 --> 00:35:38.769
That's a Cornish Rex.
1056
00:35:39.050 --> 00:35:41.510
Jeez, I've never seen that. Those ears are big, aren't they?
1057
00:35:41.530 --> 00:35:42.530
You could eat cereal with them.
1058
00:35:42.570 --> 00:35:43.489
They have got big ears.
1059
00:35:44.110 --> 00:35:44.449
Wow.
1060
00:35:44.469 --> 00:35:45.530
They've got big ears.
1061
00:35:45.550 --> 00:35:46.219
Nice guys, though.
1062
00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:47.659
I didn't know these existed.
1063
00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:48.179
Well, there you go.
1064
00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:48.780
Wow.
1065
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:50.159
It's a beautiful-looking cat.
1066
00:35:50.219 --> 00:35:50.579
Thank you.
1067
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:53.340
So what's the cat's situation now?
1068
00:35:53.460 --> 00:35:56.690
The cat's situation now is that the baby... Yeah.
1069
00:35:56.869 --> 00:35:58.909
By the way, everyone in my family calls her the baby,
1070
00:35:58.949 --> 00:36:00.809
and that's sort of very, like, geezery.
1071
00:36:00.829 --> 00:36:01.070
Yeah.
1072
00:36:01.289 --> 00:36:03.570
So the baby loves the cat.
1073
00:36:04.010 --> 00:36:04.590
Oh, that's nice.
1074
00:36:04.610 --> 00:36:05.489
The cat hates the baby.
1075
00:36:05.510 --> 00:36:07.730
The cat's called Velma. She can't say Velma. She calls
1076
00:36:07.750 --> 00:36:10.010
him Elma. Her Elma. The cat's a girl.
1077
00:36:10.139 --> 00:36:10.639
Nice.
1078
00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:13.639
And gets really close to her face. And it's like,
1079
00:36:13.780 --> 00:36:15.480
my cat, my cat, my cat.
1080
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:16.360
Borderline too close?
1081
00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:17.400
Yeah, I think it's too close.
1082
00:36:17.860 --> 00:36:18.079
Yeah.
1083
00:36:18.460 --> 00:36:20.000
Because they do that with our dog. And I'm like,
1084
00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:21.980
the dog will bite your face. Not even a bad
1085
00:36:22.019 --> 00:36:24.320
dog will do that. But if a dog's asleep and
1086
00:36:24.340 --> 00:36:26.099
you get right in his face, it'll wake up, panic
1087
00:36:26.139 --> 00:36:26.539
and bite your face.
1088
00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:27.639
Because that's how dogs live.
1089
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:29.760
I think you've always got to be careful with any
1090
00:36:29.820 --> 00:36:30.440
kind of pet.
1091
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:32.519
Even a human, I wouldn't put my face that near
1092
00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:33.860
Lou's when she's asleep.
1093
00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:38.309
Because she wakes up and bites you.
1094
00:36:38.730 --> 00:36:41.949
Yeah, the cat is putting up with the baby and
1095
00:36:41.989 --> 00:36:43.230
the baby is in love with the cat.
1096
00:36:43.429 --> 00:36:46.730
Do you think, because Rose will say this, like about
1097
00:36:46.789 --> 00:36:49.230
when our son gets too close to the cat, she'll
1098
00:36:49.269 --> 00:36:51.730
often say like when he's going for the cat, she's
1099
00:36:51.750 --> 00:36:54.289
got the attitude that if he were to swipe our
1100
00:36:54.329 --> 00:36:57.030
son once, it would sort the whole situation out a bit,
1101
00:36:57.170 --> 00:36:57.809
if you know what I mean.
1102
00:36:58.159 --> 00:36:59.239
So, like, it would teach him.
1103
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:01.739
It would teach him. Everyone would be happy. We could
1104
00:37:01.780 --> 00:37:02.179
move on.
1105
00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:04.079
I don't think he'd be happy. I think he'd be
1106
00:37:04.139 --> 00:37:04.929
absolutely traumatised.
1107
00:37:04.949 --> 00:37:08.389
No, he wouldn't, but in the long run. Yeah. I
1108
00:37:08.429 --> 00:37:09.750
got bitten by a dog on the back of the
1109
00:37:09.789 --> 00:37:11.090
leg when I was a kid, and I can still
1110
00:37:11.550 --> 00:37:13.929
vividly remember it as quite an intense experience.
1111
00:37:13.949 --> 00:37:15.510
I don't feel like you're confident with dogs.
1112
00:37:15.590 --> 00:37:16.880
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
1113
00:37:17.070 --> 00:37:19.000
Are you confident with dogs? I can imagine you being
1114
00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:19.739
scared of a dog.
1115
00:37:19.940 --> 00:37:20.880
I don't like a big dog.
1116
00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:22.039
I hate big dogs.
1117
00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:22.239
Yeah.
1118
00:37:22.380 --> 00:37:25.079
I think Josh's life as a kid feels a bit
1119
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:28.039
like a book. You know, like little Josh from Devon
1120
00:37:28.059 --> 00:37:31.260
got bit by a dog, allergic to chlorine, goes to
1121
00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:33.000
school with three kids. It all feels a bit like
1122
00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:33.860
a little Enid Blythe.
1123
00:37:33.909 --> 00:37:35.929
Yeah, it does. Yeah, and I think that's fair.
1124
00:37:36.190 --> 00:37:38.710
Or like the beginning of one of those murder podcasts.
1125
00:37:39.409 --> 00:37:40.869
It's like he didn't have any friends.
1126
00:37:40.889 --> 00:37:43.510
Josh would have come from Dartmoor. He was a loner
1127
00:37:43.530 --> 00:37:46.329
at school. Of course not a loner. But he loved gladiators.
1128
00:37:46.369 --> 00:37:47.130
I was very popular, actually.
1129
00:37:47.170 --> 00:37:49.159
I was the lead in the school play in the
1130
00:37:49.179 --> 00:37:49.550
final year.
1131
00:37:49.610 --> 00:37:50.619
What was the school play?
1132
00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:51.519
Robin Hood.
1133
00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:52.800
Jerry Maguire, he played the kid.
1134
00:37:52.820 --> 00:37:57.619
LAUGHTER You were Robin Hood in Robin Hood?
1135
00:37:57.860 --> 00:37:58.619
Oh, that's pretty good.
1136
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:01.039
Yeah, thank you very much. And get this.
1137
00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:02.039
Who was Maid Marian?
1138
00:38:02.059 --> 00:38:03.360
I can't remember who Maid Marian was.
1139
00:38:03.500 --> 00:38:07.199
That's bad. That's very Matt Smith, Claire Foy pay gap.
1140
00:38:07.219 --> 00:38:08.000
Yeah, that's a brutal.
1141
00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:10.710
She's probably listening right now, thinking, I've been waiting for
1142
00:38:10.750 --> 00:38:11.530
this to come up.
1143
00:38:11.650 --> 00:38:13.670
There was no pay gap. There was no pay gap.
1144
00:38:13.690 --> 00:38:14.210
There was no pay.
1145
00:38:14.230 --> 00:38:15.590
But do you want to be impressed?
1146
00:38:16.389 --> 00:38:16.969
Can't wait to be.
1147
00:38:16.989 --> 00:38:19.510
Do you know how the role was assigned? Anyone that
1148
00:38:19.530 --> 00:38:21.530
wanted to play Robin Hood had to audition in front
1149
00:38:21.570 --> 00:38:23.110
of the class and there was a class vote.
1150
00:38:23.710 --> 00:38:23.889
Oh, wow.
1151
00:38:24.420 --> 00:38:25.429
So no one else auditioned?
1152
00:38:31.110 --> 00:38:32.130
That's high pressure, Josh.
1153
00:38:32.170 --> 00:38:32.869
High stakes.
1154
00:38:32.889 --> 00:38:33.550
Turned it on, mate.
1155
00:38:33.630 --> 00:38:34.190
What did you do?
1156
00:38:34.210 --> 00:38:34.929
A monologue?
1157
00:38:35.050 --> 00:38:35.969
Yeah, I think so, yeah.
1158
00:38:36.170 --> 00:38:37.889
Yeah, well done. Good for you, mate.
1159
00:38:37.929 --> 00:38:39.429
Well done, though, Josh. That's very impressive.
1160
00:38:39.449 --> 00:38:39.750
Thanks, guys.
1161
00:38:40.300 --> 00:38:41.760
Oh, I'll ask you one more thing before we do
1162
00:38:41.780 --> 00:38:44.239
the final question. You said that, like, you've always felt
1163
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:45.980
like you needed to impress your parents because you never
1164
00:38:46.019 --> 00:38:47.780
thought you'd be able to sort of have children.
1165
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:48.099
Yes.
1166
00:38:48.260 --> 00:38:50.820
And you're sort of from a very working class background
1167
00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:53.750
where having a grandson is sort of like a big
1168
00:38:53.809 --> 00:38:55.230
family event. And it's, you know.
1169
00:38:55.269 --> 00:38:55.829
Yeah, yeah.
1170
00:38:56.010 --> 00:38:57.210
It's sort of what I was created to do. What
1171
00:38:57.269 --> 00:38:59.329
you're born to do in that family kind of thing.
1172
00:38:59.349 --> 00:39:01.449
So how does it feel now that you've sort of,
1173
00:39:01.449 --> 00:39:04.190
you know, had this amazing career that you put everything into,
1174
00:39:04.210 --> 00:39:07.380
but also you've got this beautiful daughter? Yeah. like was
1175
00:39:07.429 --> 00:39:09.519
it a lovely moment for the family.
1176
00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:11.679
Yeah it has been actually it's been lovely watching my
1177
00:39:11.699 --> 00:39:13.599
mum and dad become grandparents because my brother doesn't have
1178
00:39:13.619 --> 00:39:16.519
any children and so it's just her at the minute
1179
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:18.300
and it might end up just being her we're at
1180
00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:20.400
that stage now where everyone's constantly asking us if we're
1181
00:39:20.420 --> 00:39:23.590
having another and i mean the honest response is a
1182
00:39:23.610 --> 00:39:25.409
lot of my friends have had another and it looks
1183
00:39:25.710 --> 00:39:26.829
really fucking hard work.
1184
00:39:27.230 --> 00:39:29.769
And we're just about managing we've got our head above
1185
00:39:29.789 --> 00:39:30.070
the wall.
1186
00:39:30.369 --> 00:39:32.929
Did you consciously try for two rob uh yes we
1187
00:39:32.949 --> 00:39:35.550
definitely wanted to yeah but were you like let's check
1188
00:39:35.570 --> 00:39:37.789
where lou is on the cycle and get shagging kind
1189
00:39:37.829 --> 00:39:38.349
of thing i'll.
1190
00:39:38.409 --> 00:39:41.300
Be honest with you we got pregnant quite quick both
1191
00:39:41.340 --> 00:39:45.559
times all right legend to the point which yeah but
1192
00:39:45.579 --> 00:39:47.980
i never really got that fucking weeks of shagging.
1193
00:39:49.150 --> 00:39:51.170
I feel like I got missold that. It was like...
1194
00:39:51.050 --> 00:39:53.989
Lou must have been relieved, though. We were lucky and.
1195
00:39:53.949 --> 00:39:55.849
Also, anyway, weren't lucky. So you never know whether that
1196
00:39:55.889 --> 00:39:58.110
news is good news or bad news. Good news, pregnant,
1197
00:39:58.150 --> 00:40:00.889
bad news, no sex. For seven to six years.
1198
00:40:00.909 --> 00:40:03.769
So if anything, it really got spun on its head.
1199
00:40:04.230 --> 00:40:05.829
Sorry, I deviated somewhat then.
1200
00:40:06.250 --> 00:40:07.730
So your parents are.
1201
00:40:07.949 --> 00:40:12.190
Yeah, they are thrilled. They love her. She loves them.
1202
00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:14.079
She's the only grandchild at the moment.
1203
00:40:14.300 --> 00:40:17.340
Like, my mum will say things like, she's brought more
1204
00:40:17.380 --> 00:40:19.340
joy to my life than you'll ever know. Like, my
1205
00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:21.510
parents are sort of both quite emotional people.
1206
00:40:21.530 --> 00:40:23.730
Oh, yeah, so they're not, like, putting too much pressure
1207
00:40:23.809 --> 00:40:24.429
on you about it?
1208
00:40:24.449 --> 00:40:25.449
No, no, no, not at all.
1209
00:40:25.489 --> 00:40:25.829
I think.
1210
00:40:26.010 --> 00:40:27.670
You were nothing to me until this moment.
1211
00:40:27.690 --> 00:40:29.840
Yeah, she's the sunshine of my life, things like that.
1212
00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:30.579
She throws in.
1213
00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:32.480
Yeah, it's really good for your brother to hear that
1214
00:40:32.539 --> 00:40:33.099
as well, probably.
1215
00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:37.429
LAUGHTER But yeah, they adore her and she just adores them.
1216
00:40:37.739 --> 00:40:39.150
And yeah, it's lovely to see my mum and dad
1217
00:40:39.170 --> 00:40:41.289
becoming grandparents. And it takes a lot of pressure off
1218
00:40:41.309 --> 00:40:42.590
of my career now.
1219
00:40:42.610 --> 00:40:46.789
We kind of buried it. But, you know, you said, obviously...
1220
00:40:46.809 --> 00:40:48.949
I really want her to be around other same-sex couples
1221
00:40:48.969 --> 00:40:51.050
that have got kids. Also, it's only an hour from
1222
00:40:51.070 --> 00:40:52.389
my parents, so that's quite good for childcare.
1223
00:40:52.449 --> 00:40:53.530
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1224
00:40:53.550 --> 00:40:56.039
Also, it's good for childcare, and also because they've only
1225
00:40:56.079 --> 00:40:57.119
got one grandchild.
1226
00:40:57.159 --> 00:40:58.380
Yeah, you can rinse them.
1227
00:40:58.400 --> 00:40:58.840
Oh, my God.
1228
00:40:58.880 --> 00:41:00.019
And they're fairly young, aren't they?
1229
00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:01.920
Yeah, they're in their 60s, so I'm like, oh, we
1230
00:41:01.940 --> 00:41:03.679
were thinking about going out for dinner on Friday.
1231
00:41:03.699 --> 00:41:04.800
Mum's like, yeah, I'll be there.
1232
00:41:04.880 --> 00:41:07.500
That's normally the best thing about working-class parents is when
1233
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:09.000
you have a grandkid, they're about 42, and.
1234
00:41:08.860 --> 00:41:14.989
They are fucking flying. Leaving for three weeks. They'll be fine.
1235
00:41:15.010 --> 00:41:17.260
My mum's still got such a brilliant social life that
1236
00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:19.139
she's like, remember, I can't have her in August.
1237
00:41:19.219 --> 00:41:20.880
I'm going to bed at home.
1238
00:41:21.099 --> 00:41:23.079
That's the only other problem. They're too popular still. My
1239
00:41:23.099 --> 00:41:24.699
mum and dad are social and they're great with the kids,
1240
00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:26.380
but they are very popular. They're always doing something.
1241
00:41:26.579 --> 00:41:28.739
Yeah, my mum and dad are both really social people.
1242
00:41:28.900 --> 00:41:31.519
They've always got bits on. They're going places. They're doing things.
1243
00:41:31.539 --> 00:41:34.150
I'm like, take her with you. She wants an holiday.
1244
00:41:34.190 --> 00:41:36.050
Take her to Benidorm. She'll love it.
1245
00:41:36.250 --> 00:41:37.849
Susie, our last final question.
1246
00:41:37.989 --> 00:41:40.769
What's the annoying thing Alice does as a parent and
1247
00:41:40.820 --> 00:41:41.940
what is the thing you do and you go, oh
1248
00:41:41.960 --> 00:41:43.800
my God, I'm so happy that we've got a daughter together.
1249
00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:44.980
She's amazing as a parent.
1250
00:41:45.260 --> 00:41:48.599
So I think that... I'm very, very, it's too strong,
1251
00:41:48.619 --> 00:41:50.099
but I'm quite disorganised.
1252
00:41:50.420 --> 00:41:50.980
Yeah.
1253
00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:52.440
I'm always on time and I'm.
1254
00:41:52.380 --> 00:41:54.780
Quite good with like work stuff of like getting places
1255
00:41:54.860 --> 00:41:56.360
and not, you know, getting on the wrong train or
1256
00:41:56.380 --> 00:41:58.440
anything like that. But when it comes to like paying
1257
00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:01.179
a bill or something, I'm dog shit.
1258
00:42:01.199 --> 00:42:03.219
Like sometimes I'll just put letters in drawers because I think, oh,
1259
00:42:03.429 --> 00:42:05.630
I'll do that later and then I never do. And
1260
00:42:05.769 --> 00:42:06.170
Alice is.
1261
00:42:06.710 --> 00:42:09.409
She's quite on at me all the time for, like,
1262
00:42:09.550 --> 00:42:10.449
not being on top.
1263
00:42:10.349 --> 00:42:10.750
Of my shit.
1264
00:42:10.909 --> 00:42:12.630
Mental load. She does the mental load.
1265
00:42:12.670 --> 00:42:14.380
Yeah, she's sort of a double-edged sword because when she
1266
00:42:14.389 --> 00:42:17.039
gets me to do stuff, it inevitably makes my life better.
1267
00:42:17.059 --> 00:42:18.039
So she is right.
1268
00:42:18.300 --> 00:42:18.739
Yeah, yeah.
1269
00:42:18.940 --> 00:42:19.579
But that's annoying.
1270
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:20.039
Do you know what?
1271
00:42:20.059 --> 00:42:21.780
I'll pay her fucking fine. I'll pay her fine because
1272
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:24.079
I'm late. Maybe I won't pay her fine. All right,
1273
00:42:24.099 --> 00:42:25.239
so I think this is the good one.
1274
00:42:25.260 --> 00:42:27.079
This is the bad one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1275
00:42:27.099 --> 00:42:27.860
This is the bad one.
1276
00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:29.239
She's very....
1277
00:42:30.210 --> 00:42:31.889
Organized and on it and we need to do the
1278
00:42:31.929 --> 00:42:33.829
thing and everything needs to be done and we've just
1279
00:42:33.849 --> 00:42:35.030
moved into the house and this got done that's gonna
1280
00:42:35.050 --> 00:42:37.650
be done and so it's all quite things have to
1281
00:42:37.690 --> 00:42:40.130
be like exactly so and i think that's quite hard
1282
00:42:40.150 --> 00:42:44.059
and i think she's really good at like the discipline
1283
00:42:44.099 --> 00:42:46.000
stuff she's really good at the nuts and bolts stuff
1284
00:42:46.500 --> 00:42:49.440
but that sometimes it makes me a bit like Oh God,
1285
00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:50.320
am I rubbish at everything?
1286
00:42:50.340 --> 00:42:51.369
Right, because she's too on it.
1287
00:42:51.380 --> 00:42:52.820
Because she's so on it.
1288
00:42:52.940 --> 00:42:54.880
And the good one? It's a good one that she's
1289
00:42:54.940 --> 00:42:55.159
on it.
1290
00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:57.059
I think partly it's a good one that she's on it.
1291
00:42:57.079 --> 00:43:00.010
But I think, I just, I think that both of us.
1292
00:43:00.010 --> 00:43:02.070
Grew up thinking that we weren't going to be mums.
1293
00:43:02.570 --> 00:43:02.750
Yeah.
1294
00:43:02.869 --> 00:43:04.849
And when we first moved to Brighton, like we went
1295
00:43:04.969 --> 00:43:07.929
and had ice cream on the beach, the three of us.
1296
00:43:08.989 --> 00:43:11.090
And it was kind of like, fucking hell, we've done this.
1297
00:43:11.849 --> 00:43:11.949
Aw.
1298
00:43:12.139 --> 00:43:16.800
Like she's ours and we're hers and it's us three.
1299
00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:19.460
And it didn't, There was a long time where it
1300
00:43:19.500 --> 00:43:22.300
didn't feel like long before I met Alice, where I
1301
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:26.019
didn't think that being a mum and being gay. And
1302
00:43:26.039 --> 00:43:27.420
there were people listening again. Well, loads of people gave
1303
00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:30.179
me like totally. But when I was 15, it just
1304
00:43:30.219 --> 00:43:32.420
didn't seem possible. And it sort of felt like when
1305
00:43:32.460 --> 00:43:34.019
I came out, it sort of felt like I'd said
1306
00:43:34.059 --> 00:43:37.000
goodbye to that. And so to now be a mum,
1307
00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:39.090
but also be a mum with someone that's so good
1308
00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:41.650
at being a mum. Feels really special.
1309
00:43:42.090 --> 00:43:43.710
That's the best end we've ever had.
1310
00:43:43.730 --> 00:43:46.349
That's amazing. No, that's brilliant, Susie.
1311
00:43:46.369 --> 00:43:46.570
Is it?
1312
00:43:46.610 --> 00:43:47.369
I don't want to be too.
1313
00:43:47.389 --> 00:43:50.079
But it's slightly ruined by, do you know what? I'm
1314
00:43:50.139 --> 00:43:52.800
just picturing there's a cat back at the house.
1315
00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:53.800
Sharpening its nails.
1316
00:43:53.820 --> 00:43:56.380
What the fuck is happening to my life?
1317
00:43:56.420 --> 00:43:57.710
Where's my fucking ice cream?
1318
00:43:57.969 --> 00:43:59.309
Where's my fucking ice cream?
1319
00:44:00.050 --> 00:44:01.690
It used to just be me and Susie.
1320
00:44:02.010 --> 00:44:04.650
And Susie, that was absolutely amazing. It was very funny
1321
00:44:04.670 --> 00:44:06.269
and also very important to talk about a lot of
1322
00:44:06.289 --> 00:44:08.349
those things. There'll be a lot of young people and
1323
00:44:08.429 --> 00:44:11.150
older people listening that that's really helped and is great
1324
00:44:11.170 --> 00:44:11.829
to hear about.
1325
00:44:11.869 --> 00:44:12.530
So well done, Susie.
1326
00:44:12.550 --> 00:44:12.949
Thanks, mate.
1327
00:44:13.230 --> 00:44:15.309
And good luck with your tour, Snappy. Cheers.
1328
00:44:15.570 --> 00:44:24.570
Shall I just quickly? Steve Wright here. Edinburgh, Glasgow, Brighton, Norwich, London, Leicester, Bradford, Salford, Liverpool, Loughborough, Oxford, Swindon, Hereford, Bristol, Portsmouth, Colchester, Cardiff.
1329
00:44:24.949 --> 00:44:28.019
Newcastle yes and there's a load of solo theatre dates
1330
00:44:28.059 --> 00:44:29.659
in London yeah yeah.
1331
00:44:29.500 --> 00:44:31.400
Yeah we're about to book an extra week there so
1332
00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:32.980
brilliant if they're all sold out keep an eye on
1333
00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:34.800
it because we're booking more oh so happy for you
1334
00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:36.449
Suze well done thanks cheers guys thanks for having me
1335
00:44:36.650 --> 00:44:37.570
brilliant thanks.
1336
00:44:37.369 --> 00:44:39.750
Suze bye bye.
1337
00:44:41.550 --> 00:44:44.130
Suzy ruffle i love that one because it was very
1338
00:44:44.190 --> 00:44:46.050
funny i love suzy and it's i think it's good
1339
00:44:46.070 --> 00:44:48.050
actually because we're sort of all friends and known each
1340
00:44:48.090 --> 00:44:50.659
other years and i think that helps to have slightly
1341
00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:53.800
more earnest and deeper conversations about you know what it's
1342
00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:56.460
like being a mom and having a daughter and then
1343
00:44:56.739 --> 00:44:58.840
in the same sex marriage and stuff so it's good
1344
00:44:58.860 --> 00:45:00.800
to have all the different angles what.
1345
00:45:00.739 --> 00:45:04.769
It's like absolutely ruining a cat's life because you've moved.
1346
00:45:04.650 --> 00:45:08.639
On Anyway, go and see Susie Ruffell on tour.
1347
00:45:08.860 --> 00:45:11.039
And also, she's got a brilliant podcast with Tom Allen.
1348
00:45:11.079 --> 00:45:11.159
Yes.
1349
00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:12.159
Which you should listen to.
1350
00:45:12.539 --> 00:45:13.420
Like-minded friends.
1351
00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:14.059
Like-minded friends.
1352
00:45:14.099 --> 00:45:15.460
Yeah, where they chat about what they've been up to.
1353
00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:18.030
And her own podcast that's brilliant called Out. Yes. Where
1354
00:45:18.050 --> 00:45:22.989
she interviews other people from the LGBTQ plus community.
1355
00:45:23.150 --> 00:45:24.750
Right. Susie Ruffell. Go and see her tour.
1356
00:45:24.809 --> 00:45:25.929
Snappy. Bye.
1357
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Bye.