Triple H Can Still Save SummerSlam, HUGE CHANGES IN TNA, Road Dogg Joining CREATIVE? | TNT #152

WEBVTT
00:00.600 --> 00:01.480
[UNKNOWN]: What is going on guys?
00:01.501 --> 00:10.545
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you so very much for joining us right here on Tuesday night to the Tuesday night Titans episode 152 For your Tuesday, June 23rd 2026.
00:10.925 --> 00:21.431
[UNKNOWN]: I'm your host, JD from New York as always joined by the one and the only If I have to be in onk he's gonna be in onk right alongside me the song monster.
00:21.471 --> 00:21.931
[UNKNOWN]: What's going on?
00:22.231 --> 00:22.992
[UNKNOWN]: I am not an onk
00:24.228 --> 00:26.450
[UNKNOWN]: I look a lot younger than you actually.
00:26.470 --> 00:27.751
[UNKNOWN]: Well, you are younger than me.
00:28.111 --> 00:28.972
[UNKNOWN]: You're one.
00:29.252 --> 00:30.153
[UNKNOWN]: You are an egg.
00:30.794 --> 00:31.494
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not an egg.
00:32.215 --> 00:38.860
[UNKNOWN]: You know, someone, someone after J. Uso was called an egg by Giovanni Evans on Raw last week.
00:39.581 --> 00:42.403
[UNKNOWN]: We'll smack down whichever show it takes place on that.
00:42.423 --> 00:44.325
[UNKNOWN]: They started calling me an egg on my shriek.
00:45.178 --> 00:45.438
[UNKNOWN]: Really?
00:45.718 --> 00:48.920
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't know what an, I don't know what the criteria for an Ank was.
00:49.141 --> 00:51.882
[UNKNOWN]: So I asked the panelly, it's around 40.
00:52.883 --> 00:56.165
[UNKNOWN]: And I constitute as an Ank because I have the Salt and Pepper beard.
00:56.185 --> 01:03.069
[UNKNOWN]: I was going to say, you've got some of the, you know, the mature, the mature coloring on the beard there.
01:03.089 --> 01:03.250
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:03.270 --> 01:03.870
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:04.330 --> 01:04.911
[UNKNOWN]: And I'll ask that.
01:04.931 --> 01:06.692
[UNKNOWN]: So you don't want to be an Ank, you're just an OG, huh?
01:08.593 --> 01:09.453
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, I am an OG.
01:10.334 --> 01:10.954
[UNKNOWN]: I am an OG.
01:11.615 --> 01:14.957
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not the most famous OG in New York.
01:16.492 --> 01:19.153
[UNKNOWN]: Who's number one, Dan House, O.G.
01:19.233 --> 01:25.154
[UNKNOWN]: at a noby of the New York mix, okay, terrible terrible in the York.
01:26.034 --> 01:35.236
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, it's so you're talking to a guy that doesn't like any of the sports teams here that our city provides outside of feeling good about the next, but I'm on the tip.
01:35.496 --> 01:38.297
[UNKNOWN]: The legendary tip, I'm tip into the basket.
01:38.497 --> 01:43.218
[UNKNOWN]: You know, we're on the tips, speaking of tips, we're on the verge of King eat.
01:44.294 --> 01:46.076
[UNKNOWN]: I feel about that may feel good about that one.
01:46.156 --> 01:47.477
[UNKNOWN]: Are you scared like I am?
01:49.019 --> 01:51.381
[UNKNOWN]: Um...
01:52.502 --> 01:55.065
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think any words are needed.
01:55.617 --> 02:04.464
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, we're going to get into the the toilet bowl of creative that is WWE if that does indeed happen on Saturday afternoon.
02:04.484 --> 02:06.565
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to talk some night at champagne tonight.
02:07.026 --> 02:12.410
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to talk some forbidden door and all that's going into that show whether you care or not.
02:12.430 --> 02:14.991
[UNKNOWN]: We'll talk about what the finals of the Owen.
02:15.912 --> 02:17.193
[UNKNOWN]: are on that show.
02:17.753 --> 02:19.773
[UNKNOWN]: Disappointed in one but not the other.
02:19.793 --> 02:21.254
[UNKNOWN]: We'll talk about that.
02:21.294 --> 02:24.315
[UNKNOWN]: The main event there with MJF and Mark Briscoe and what's on the line there.
02:25.075 --> 02:32.258
[UNKNOWN]: And the week from TNA where they had a workforce reduction is what they called it.
02:33.172 --> 02:40.296
[UNKNOWN]: the the colorful phrasing that they used for their terminations and letting people like Tommy Droomer and Sammy Kallahan go of all people.
02:40.316 --> 02:46.660
[UNKNOWN]: All right, we'll talk about that this week as well, including the rumors of TNA may be prepping themselves for a sale.
02:47.621 --> 02:51.283
[UNKNOWN]: 50 million for TNA just want to go on on on on TNA together.
02:51.323 --> 02:54.886
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you know, there's a lot of, oh, thank you.
02:55.326 --> 02:56.587
[UNKNOWN]: Throw bag of trips in there.
02:56.927 --> 02:59.809
[UNKNOWN]: How much is a, how much is a respective channels worth?
02:59.849 --> 03:00.309
[UNKNOWN]: Anybody know?
03:02.267 --> 03:03.309
[UNKNOWN]: Well, it's not $50 million.
03:03.409 --> 03:06.615
[UNKNOWN]: Our channels are not worth $50 million, and neither is TNA.
03:08.619 --> 03:11.103
[UNKNOWN]: Couple of zeroes in there that they conveniently added.
03:11.444 --> 03:12.225
[UNKNOWN]: That might help.
03:15.642 --> 03:16.543
[UNKNOWN]: Well, we'll talk about it.
03:16.563 --> 03:17.163
[UNKNOWN]: We'll talk about it.
03:17.183 --> 03:17.704
[UNKNOWN]: We'll talk about it.
03:17.724 --> 03:17.864
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
03:17.884 --> 03:19.165
[UNKNOWN]: That worth $50 million.
03:19.805 --> 03:22.647
[UNKNOWN]: But thank you guys for joining us here on Tuesday night Titans.
03:22.967 --> 03:24.208
[UNKNOWN]: I know the weeks are slow.
03:24.608 --> 03:28.911
[UNKNOWN]: You guys usually show up big on Tuesdays and we appreciate it.
03:29.692 --> 03:33.294
[UNKNOWN]: We wish it was a little bit more exciting, but you know what was exciting Jason?
03:33.315 --> 03:35.656
[UNKNOWN]: We were in Chicago on Friday.
03:35.916 --> 03:37.938
[UNKNOWN]: I got there a day early because I like Wicker Park.
03:38.478 --> 03:39.219
[UNKNOWN]: I like the coffee.
03:39.399 --> 03:40.339
[UNKNOWN]: I like the vibe.
03:40.420 --> 03:43.422
[UNKNOWN]: There's a beautiful record store there that I frequent when I go.
03:44.082 --> 03:54.214
[UNKNOWN]: But we had H-O-G inferno on Friday, and I said it while we were live on Triller TV plus that was the best show that we had in Chicago and my opinion.
03:54.234 --> 04:02.463
[UNKNOWN]: I thought that was one hell of a show and was headlined by two great matches with Red, Ricky Sosa, and the nickname of challenging Charles Mason for the World title.
04:03.793 --> 04:03.993
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
04:04.013 --> 04:05.714
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, we've been to Chicago now.
04:05.834 --> 04:08.515
[UNKNOWN]: God, it's more than half a dozen times.
04:09.796 --> 04:21.522
[UNKNOWN]: And I feel like it's always fun in Chicago, but just from top to bottom, I think we kind of turned to each other and agreed like that was that was the most fun show top to bottom that we have had in in Chicago yet.
04:22.803 --> 04:23.003
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
04:23.083 --> 04:26.284
[UNKNOWN]: But there was there was nothing on the show that to me anyway didn't really hit.
04:26.585 --> 04:26.745
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
04:26.865 --> 04:27.085
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
04:27.125 --> 04:28.666
[UNKNOWN]: Some matches you could pick out which one you
04:31.640 --> 04:39.009
[UNKNOWN]: But up and down the card, I mean, there was, there was a little something for everybody, again it was packed in there it always is at Logan Square.
04:40.070 --> 04:49.482
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like, you know, we, we may have outgrown Logan Square auditorium, but we'll, we'll see in the future, you know, obviously we'll be back in Chicago at some point soon.
04:50.508 --> 05:11.001
[UNKNOWN]: uh... but yeah i mean again if you if you missed it uh... some of the matches are already up on the you tube channel the house of the or you tube channel uh... two of the bigger matches actually but if you want to check out red and and ricky so sa first time ever match really like a clash of two generations i know that matches up on the channel right now so uh... definitely go ahead and give that to the channel sub
05:11.637 --> 05:16.262
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, uh, shout out to Rahim Royale, the captain of the skies for House of Glory.
05:16.322 --> 05:34.199
[UNKNOWN]: He, uh, he defied gravity and jumped off the balcony right in front of us and it was an amazing feat because this was a lot higher than it was in Las Vegas when he did the same exact thing at the Palms Casino and in both situations Jason, he landed on his feet.
05:35.113 --> 05:53.996
[UNKNOWN]: now he is uh... we we knew coming in he was one of the more apolitic apolitically gifted talents that a that he produced in uh... in a few years but to see him do that again with such ease right in front of us i mean that what we're physically on camera with a a a shocked face are jaws were on the ground that he landed on his feet what do you think about
05:55.526 --> 05:56.507
[UNKNOWN]: I thought it was insane.
05:56.547 --> 06:01.314
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I thought that you have to have the screw loose up here, you know, to do something like that.
06:01.354 --> 06:02.655
[UNKNOWN]: And to do with your back turned.
06:03.016 --> 06:03.236
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
06:03.677 --> 06:11.427
[UNKNOWN]: You know, when you do a dive, it's one thing to climb up there and do a dive and you, like, look straight down, you know, where you're going, to turn your back.
06:12.423 --> 06:35.499
[UNKNOWN]: And I mean, you're putting it insane amount of trust in your own ability, you know, to just stick the landing and he did you know, when you when you have certain talents and abilities, you have to have confidence and one thing that he does not lack is confidence and you could you could tell when somebody does something like that you have to be confident that you're going to be able to pull it off and he did and we're sitting there doing commentary and literally I turned to my right.
06:36.391 --> 06:39.435
[UNKNOWN]: because I was wondering where he disappeared to is a six-way match.
06:40.076 --> 06:42.420
[UNKNOWN]: And I said, I see five guys, I don't know where Rahimun.
06:42.440 --> 06:44.763
[UNKNOWN]: And I turned to my right knee's crouching down next to me.
06:44.783 --> 06:49.230
[UNKNOWN]: And it took me maybe three or four seconds to process what was about to happen.
06:49.270 --> 06:50.372
[UNKNOWN]: I said, there's no way.
06:51.533 --> 06:54.316
[UNKNOWN]: there's just no way, but he pulled it off.
06:54.616 --> 06:58.059
[UNKNOWN]: He pulled it off and he's going to be in name that you're going to be hearing a lot of.
06:58.099 --> 06:59.000
[UNKNOWN]: So keep an eye on him.
06:59.020 --> 07:02.483
[UNKNOWN]: If you guys want to go see that clip, I'm sure the HOG Instagram page has it.
07:02.503 --> 07:04.044
[UNKNOWN]: So go check that out.
07:04.104 --> 07:08.048
[UNKNOWN]: We're also leaving Triller TV as it was announced.
07:08.108 --> 07:09.969
[UNKNOWN]: They were several posts on social media.
07:10.370 --> 07:12.371
[UNKNOWN]: We don't know why I guess me Jason.
07:12.412 --> 07:13.593
[UNKNOWN]: No, but we know we.
07:13.793 --> 07:13.993
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
07:14.193 --> 07:19.335
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, we know what the plan is for high-intensity is our next big event.
07:19.355 --> 07:21.336
[UNKNOWN]: And that's coming up on Friday, August 7th.
07:21.396 --> 07:22.757
[UNKNOWN]: It's our biggest event of the summer.
07:24.637 --> 07:30.320
[UNKNOWN]: It holds a special place to me because that was the first House of Glory event that I ever worked back in 2018.
07:30.340 --> 07:32.641
[UNKNOWN]: Was high-intensity cash flow lost in areas.
07:32.681 --> 07:34.342
[UNKNOWN]: I remember, bro.
07:34.382 --> 07:36.362
[UNKNOWN]: That was the first match I ever did commentary for.
07:36.382 --> 07:36.683
[UNKNOWN]: There you go.
07:37.103 --> 07:40.844
[UNKNOWN]: Of all matches, it was an impact wrestling world jet engine open challenge.
07:40.864 --> 07:42.345
[UNKNOWN]: There you go.
07:42.982 --> 07:49.785
[UNKNOWN]: So we know what the plan is for that show and likely going forward will let them make the announcement.
07:49.825 --> 07:51.045
[UNKNOWN]: But it will not be untriller.
07:51.425 --> 07:55.547
[UNKNOWN]: You know, we've had a good run on there, but I will say this.
07:55.607 --> 08:05.551
[UNKNOWN]: I do think that certainly this next show, there will be a greater level of accessibility for the people who are watching this right now who want to check out an H.O.G.
08:05.591 --> 08:05.891
[UNKNOWN]: show.
08:06.731 --> 08:10.453
[UNKNOWN]: You will have greater access to it more so I think this time than you ever had before.
08:10.853 --> 08:11.194
[UNKNOWN]: There you go.
08:11.354 --> 08:11.915
[UNKNOWN]: That's exciting.
08:12.535 --> 08:12.716
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
08:12.756 --> 08:14.859
[UNKNOWN]: We'll keep you guys updated on that August 7th.
08:15.339 --> 08:20.867
[UNKNOWN]: We already announced that he Kingston he'll be at the show Ricky Soes is making his return to HOG again for a second time.
08:20.887 --> 08:23.110
[UNKNOWN]: That's going to be great and the hardies will be there.
08:23.210 --> 08:23.711
[UNKNOWN]: The hardies.
08:23.911 --> 08:25.553
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, we can't have a party without the hardies.
08:25.593 --> 08:25.794
[UNKNOWN]: So.
08:26.754 --> 08:28.955
[UNKNOWN]: Make sure you guys keep an eye on and ear out for that.
08:29.235 --> 08:32.256
[UNKNOWN]: If you guys want to follow Jason on social media, everything you need for him is linked down below.
08:33.016 --> 08:34.596
[UNKNOWN]: Kindly hit that thumbs up.
08:34.976 --> 08:36.757
[UNKNOWN]: Make sure you guys do that helps us out tremendously.
08:36.777 --> 08:41.338
[UNKNOWN]: If you want to support what we do here on Tuesday nights and every night honestly, super chats are the best way to go.
08:41.378 --> 08:42.598
[UNKNOWN]: So make sure you guys get them on in.
08:42.618 --> 08:46.499
[UNKNOWN]: If you guys want to go buy a T-shirt, I'll throw it up right here for you.
08:46.559 --> 08:51.980
[UNKNOWN]: New TNT shirts, shout out to several of the people in the front row that I saw.
08:52.020 --> 08:54.461
[UNKNOWN]: I saw you guys from the balcony wearing the TNT shirts.
08:54.921 --> 09:23.083
[UNKNOWN]: you guys are great in Chicago at the HOG in front of show so shout out to you guys you guys were awesome make sure you guys go get that that is fourth wall dot com you can pick yours up today it's great looking design shout out to my gosh salrex who made that design for us and basically all i got so i'm gonna pass the ball off to this guy we have a busy show what do you want to talk about well i just wanted to mention actually up front you do you know what today is
09:25.496 --> 09:37.223
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I feel like the last time you asked me this question, uh, I, uh, I was really cool because I didn't know, uh, about, uh, the cane, you know, evil day, but, uh, I don't know what, what do we celebrate, Sonic the Hedgehog and Super Mario today?
09:37.243 --> 09:37.623
[UNKNOWN]: What do we do?
09:37.843 --> 09:38.984
[UNKNOWN]: I won't hold it against you.
09:39.024 --> 09:52.592
[UNKNOWN]: Now today is the 30 year anniversary of the King of the Ring in 1996, and after King of the Ring in 1996, there was a very famous speech that was given by Stone Cold Steve Austin on that show.
09:53.666 --> 09:56.889
[UNKNOWN]: or he uttered a certain phrase that went on to sell a lot of t-shirts.
09:57.750 --> 10:04.477
[UNKNOWN]: Now has there been has there been anything even remotely close to that phrase or to that promo?
10:04.918 --> 10:05.238
[UNKNOWN]: Since then.
10:05.979 --> 10:07.861
[UNKNOWN]: Um, well, I mean, in terms of what?
10:07.901 --> 10:09.463
[UNKNOWN]: In terms of just sales.
10:09.503 --> 10:09.903
[UNKNOWN]: Just sales.
10:09.983 --> 10:10.384
[UNKNOWN]: Impact.
10:10.564 --> 10:11.585
[UNKNOWN]: Impact on a business.
10:12.906 --> 10:12.966
[UNKNOWN]: Um.
10:12.986 --> 10:14.328
[UNKNOWN]: Well, for a superstar, I should say.
10:15.148 --> 10:18.411
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, the pipe bomb was pretty important for punk in 2011.
10:18.671 --> 10:28.381
[UNKNOWN]: I would say, but outside of that, nothing really off the top of my head that I would rank above that in terms of just importance, I guess, and significance.
10:28.401 --> 10:29.562
[UNKNOWN]: But here's the thing about this though.
10:29.982 --> 10:32.164
[UNKNOWN]: And I talked about this on the uncran wrestling show today.
10:32.184 --> 10:34.286
[UNKNOWN]: You know, the thing is as as as
10:35.067 --> 10:40.089
[UNKNOWN]: famous of a promo is that is it is also overrated by people in this way.
10:40.169 --> 10:43.551
[UNKNOWN]: I think that there's this perception that he went out there.
10:44.071 --> 10:45.171
[UNKNOWN]: He cut this promo.
10:45.231 --> 10:57.137
[UNKNOWN]: He said Austin 316 says I just whipped your ass and everybody cheered and like the very next night on Raw, they were Austin 316 signs all over the place and he got a big push and he was a main event guy.
10:57.157 --> 10:58.817
[UNKNOWN]: That's just not true.
10:59.318 --> 10:59.638
[UNKNOWN]: It's just
11:02.619 --> 11:04.700
[UNKNOWN]: Like two months later, it's SummerSlam.
11:04.740 --> 11:08.982
[UNKNOWN]: He was wrestling Yokozuna in a two-minute match on the pre-show, right?
11:09.202 --> 11:11.283
[UNKNOWN]: Like it was not an overnight thing.
11:12.024 --> 11:18.267
[UNKNOWN]: It really wasn't until Brett Hart came back, and he fused with Brett and that gave him the credibility that he needed as a top guy.
11:19.428 --> 11:24.509
[UNKNOWN]: So it would be nice to look back and go, well, this is the promo that vaulted him into the stratosphere.
11:24.750 --> 11:30.071
[UNKNOWN]: It really didn't, but once he did get super popular, you know, Austin 316 was this big thing.
11:30.271 --> 11:37.673
[UNKNOWN]: And I defy anybody to find me a wrestling t-shirt that has sold as many shirts and made as much money as that one has.
11:38.113 --> 11:43.355
[UNKNOWN]: I said, the only one that I could think of, that maybe was comparable, would have been the NWL?
11:44.808 --> 11:47.810
[UNKNOWN]: And think about this, like, they both came out that same year that was both in 96.
11:47.870 --> 11:48.230
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
11:49.971 --> 12:03.859
[UNKNOWN]: But I can't imagine that Austin 316 when you add up between the officially licensed ones and the bootleg ones, I can't imagine there's another pro wrestling shirt ever, like in the history of wrestling that has sold as many shirts as that one.
12:05.283 --> 12:07.265
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not even going to disagree with you.
12:07.705 --> 12:08.666
[UNKNOWN]: It's a factual statement.
12:09.167 --> 12:13.010
[UNKNOWN]: We'll be long gone before anything.
12:13.150 --> 12:15.052
[UNKNOWN]: That will never happen again in our lifetime, ever.
12:15.592 --> 12:19.315
[UNKNOWN]: So that was certainly a moment to live through.
12:19.475 --> 12:19.896
[UNKNOWN]: For sure.
12:20.656 --> 12:21.437
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't know that, but
12:22.738 --> 12:46.475
[UNKNOWN]: I can't remember what else was on that kinklering was that there was a great and undertake a mankind match on that show wasn't it that was their first match that was a fucking great match yeah that was uh that wasn't even their best one but that was their their first meeting and he got a big win over the undertaker um ultimate warrior wrestler Jerry Lollard on that show was that the uh the fabled nightwear gold dust uh kissed on that johnson and that
12:50.317 --> 12:58.544
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that was I want to say actually now that you mentioned that I believe in somebody will look this up and correct me if I'm wrong But I believe that was the same night.
12:58.765 --> 13:00.026
[UNKNOWN]: I think that was Memorial day.
13:00.166 --> 13:03.028
[UNKNOWN]: I think it was the same night that Scott Hall showed up on nitro.
13:03.469 --> 13:04.710
[UNKNOWN]: Wow Yeah
13:05.360 --> 13:07.060
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that was, that wasn't all right, King of the Ring.
13:07.080 --> 13:10.721
[UNKNOWN]: I remember mankind going through head first the announced table on that match with the Undertaker.
13:11.041 --> 13:11.581
[UNKNOWN]: Not fucking match.
13:12.481 --> 13:13.081
[UNKNOWN]: That wasn't that match?
13:13.101 --> 13:15.102
[UNKNOWN]: What was the, you're thinking, you're thinking of a different match.
13:15.122 --> 13:17.602
[UNKNOWN]: You're thinking of, that was an in-your-house match the following year.
13:18.162 --> 13:20.583
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I mean, there was just some revenge of the taker.
13:20.723 --> 13:21.163
[UNKNOWN]: Hmm.
13:21.683 --> 13:22.123
[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
13:22.903 --> 13:25.063
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, those are, that was, that was a fucking feud man.
13:25.103 --> 13:25.683
[UNKNOWN]: Holy shit.
13:26.384 --> 13:27.764
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I got to go back and watch some of that stuff.
13:28.004 --> 13:32.245
[UNKNOWN]: But, uh, speaking of King of the Ring, we have the 2026 King of the Ring
13:35.140 --> 13:41.406
[UNKNOWN]: a king and queen and this may not end up as as legendary as Stone Cold Steve Austin.
13:41.967 --> 13:47.913
[UNKNOWN]: We are looking at J. Uso Jason against Old Befemi and live Morgan versus EOS guy.
13:48.634 --> 13:50.355
[UNKNOWN]: Now we'll start things with SmackDown.
13:51.590 --> 14:01.537
[UNKNOWN]: Um, let's just take it from the top because, uh, I know I watched Macdown on the flight back from Chicago, uh, I kind of took it all in there because I didn't really want to watch it when I got back home.
14:02.237 --> 14:08.482
[UNKNOWN]: But Cody Rhodes defended the WWE championship against Goonther with Sammy Zan is the special guest referee.
14:09.193 --> 14:16.056
[UNKNOWN]: Now, I thought that they were going to close the show with this, and I know that they said it was going to be commercial free looking back at it.
14:16.076 --> 14:23.180
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know why they didn't close the show with it because what they actually did close the show with was something that shit the bed with live Morgan and Charlotte Flair.
14:24.240 --> 14:31.384
[UNKNOWN]: But looking back at it even further, they opened the show in a way Jason, I said on Saturday when I went live with my SmackDown review.
14:32.197 --> 14:47.682
[UNKNOWN]: I actually like the way Smackdown opened because it gave you a sense of importance to gave you a sense of excitement and it threw a little bit of chaos in there with the start of the second match and then Sammy Zane is you're going to turn on Cody is you're going to fuck Cody over.
14:48.322 --> 15:03.513
[UNKNOWN]: I liked what they did here, even though it was a little hokey, and even though they make going to look like a complete geek in my opinion, with him choosing Sami's the referee and then him getting so rattled at a power bomb, Sami and his anger issues.
15:03.713 --> 15:08.837
[UNKNOWN]: It's always a smart thing to do when you're wrestling with a world championship, just power bomb the referee.
15:09.157 --> 15:15.002
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, this guy's lost a lot of his aura, and they got him doing things like that, and I was like, what the fuck are you doing?
15:15.563 --> 15:18.245
[UNKNOWN]: Regardless, I actually liked what they did.
15:18.425 --> 15:24.911
[UNKNOWN]: The match only went 12 minutes, but Metsem is in continues to be the most intriguing character across all WWE television right now.
15:26.694 --> 15:31.216
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, when it comes to that show on Friday, I mean, he really is the most compelling part of the show.
15:31.577 --> 15:33.117
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I wouldn't have said that six months ago.
15:33.137 --> 15:35.038
[UNKNOWN]: I think that you and I were saying the exact opposite.
15:35.278 --> 15:41.682
[UNKNOWN]: In fact, I think we were very, Ho-Hum on Samy Zain and his prospects of being world champion any time in the near future.
15:42.522 --> 15:51.587
[UNKNOWN]: So it's amazing that the difference that six months can make outside of what they've been doing with him and Cody, there really is nothing else on the show that I would call compelling.
15:52.321 --> 16:01.569
[UNKNOWN]: There's no, there's no story or single star or character going on at the moment or active on that show that really is drawing me in.
16:01.949 --> 16:03.390
[UNKNOWN]: This would be the closest thing to that.
16:03.951 --> 16:07.093
[UNKNOWN]: So I've been enjoying the whole last real good guy thing that he's been doing.
16:07.834 --> 16:11.097
[UNKNOWN]: It's kind of, I mean, he is more of a heal now, but it's kind of shades of gray.
16:11.117 --> 16:15.200
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, the reason they opened the show with it was precisely because of the angle they did.
16:15.220 --> 16:20.545
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they had to do it that way because they came back later in the show to announce the big match for Night of Champion.
16:20.605 --> 16:25.289
[UNKNOWN]: So it was something they wanted to sort of spread out over the course of the show, which I get.
16:25.870 --> 16:31.835
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, I mean, I said on my end, it introduced some chaos into a show that really could use some chaos.
16:33.328 --> 16:53.448
[UNKNOWN]: It almost felt very, um, I don't know, me at a two desk in the way that they, they did the first match and then we had the big, you know, kind of, not brawl, but like all the commotion back at gorilla and then they sent them back out there for a rematch and it was just like one thing after another, kind of bled one segment into the other.
16:54.068 --> 16:54.609
[UNKNOWN]: It was different.
16:55.309 --> 16:57.870
[UNKNOWN]: It was different and Smackdown could use something that's different.
16:58.530 --> 17:00.230
[UNKNOWN]: You can use a break in the formula.
17:00.330 --> 17:01.851
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, I didn't mind it.
17:01.931 --> 17:03.111
[UNKNOWN]: I kind of like what they did.
17:03.991 --> 17:07.672
[UNKNOWN]: Cody ended up keeping the title because they restarted the match.
17:07.892 --> 17:20.755
[UNKNOWN]: And after Sammy got power bombed by Gunther, he came back out and got some level of revenge on Gunther and basically gave him a haluvic kick, which caused a no contest for the second match.
17:21.913 --> 17:28.742
[UNKNOWN]: which wasn't really much of a match was more of an angle and anything, but they ended up going 12 minutes and they went 12 minutes a clash in Italy.
17:28.782 --> 17:32.407
[UNKNOWN]: I'm hoping that this match at night of champions goes a little bit longer.
17:32.427 --> 17:34.470
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like you've got a hook up again.
17:34.830 --> 17:35.431
[UNKNOWN]: Hopefully.
17:35.571 --> 17:36.413
[UNKNOWN]: It's the main event.
17:36.453 --> 17:37.194
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it will.
17:37.274 --> 17:39.557
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, Cody and Gunther didn't even get the main event in Italy.
17:39.837 --> 17:45.819
[UNKNOWN]: Now, they went 12 minutes there, they went 12 minutes on Friday, so hopefully they do get a little bit more time.
17:46.620 --> 17:55.843
[UNKNOWN]: On Saturday afternoon, so I really didn't enjoy that as the Jason, the tag team championships, I mean, they are absolutely fucking bottom of the barrel stuff here on Friday night's SmackDown.
17:55.863 --> 17:56.903
[UNKNOWN]: I saw a report today.
17:56.923 --> 18:00.845
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know where it was from, but apparently,
18:01.978 --> 18:22.746
[UNKNOWN]: People in WWE are upset at the state of the tag team, divisional Friday night SmackDown, because legitimately all you're looking at is Artruth and Damian Priest, you got the MFTs who might not even be the MFTs by the time next Friday SmackDown comes, which was teased here on this show because they didn't want anything to do with Solace of Coa in their match for the tag team titles.
18:23.426 --> 18:28.928
[UNKNOWN]: And Nathan Frazier and Axiom are working singles against Ray Phoenix.
18:29.723 --> 18:31.565
[UNKNOWN]: which they're a great tag team in their own right.
18:32.125 --> 18:43.816
[UNKNOWN]: So we have the tag team titles here on the line chase and we have archer within Damian priest retaining over the MFTs, some story line developments here with Solosacoa, Tamatonga and Tolotonga, them walking away from Soloa.
18:43.836 --> 18:44.737
[UNKNOWN]: What do you I start there?
18:44.777 --> 18:48.961
[UNKNOWN]: What do you make of them potentially just dissolving the MFTs?
18:48.981 --> 18:54.526
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think that's a good idea for Tamatonga and Tolotonga because I think without the MFTs, they're basically dead in the water.
18:55.702 --> 19:00.265
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, they're dead in the water, but I mean, I'm sorry, like I have no use for the MFT.
19:00.366 --> 19:03.368
[UNKNOWN]: So, I mean, it may be bad news for the two of them, but it's good news for me.
19:03.488 --> 19:21.582
[UNKNOWN]: So, I think that in the end, we, and again, my, my feeling coming out of that show on Friday was that even though he's saying the opposite, and then we saw him cost Jimmy his match on Raw last night that in the end, we probably are going to get solo back with the bloodline in some way.
19:22.758 --> 19:28.182
[UNKNOWN]: This MFT's things will go away and he'll kind of realign with the family at some point.
19:28.562 --> 19:38.810
[UNKNOWN]: Which I would prefer over building to some sort of war games is, I mean, it's so far in the future, but some sort of match, like bloodline civil war, like I have no appetite for that.
19:39.390 --> 19:42.651
[UNKNOWN]: and the MFTs don't even have enough people to do anything like that anyway.
19:43.291 --> 19:46.511
[UNKNOWN]: So, if they want to dissolve the MFTs, that's fine with me.
19:46.531 --> 19:57.414
[UNKNOWN]: You could always keep Tama and Tala together as a team, and they just become another tag team on SmackDown, which at least gives them one more team, but they're going to need a lot more than just one more team.
19:57.734 --> 20:03.575
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you didn't mention the low scars of the low scars, I feel like a spending more of their time down in Triple A now than they are on SmackDown.
20:04.392 --> 20:08.855
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and one, uh, one team that they moved to AAA and had them win the tag team championship.
20:08.895 --> 20:17.922
[UNKNOWN]: It's now back on Friday night, SmackDown and the war Raiders, and they are now getting the next shot at Demi Priest and our truth for whatever reason for the tag team championships.
20:17.942 --> 20:20.684
[UNKNOWN]: And this is just because they're all team, they are.
20:21.605 --> 20:22.206
[UNKNOWN]: So what are they getting?
20:24.527 --> 20:26.609
[UNKNOWN]: Was there a trade that I wasn't aware of here?
20:26.649 --> 20:28.790
[UNKNOWN]: Your ass can be why WWE does these.
20:28.811 --> 20:30.632
[UNKNOWN]: This is, this is what's coming up.
20:31.994 --> 20:34.740
[UNKNOWN]: I unfortunately read the spoilers, so this is what we have to look forward to.
20:35.161 --> 20:38.990
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I, okay, well I avoided that, but that doesn't make any sense.
20:40.245 --> 20:45.546
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I won't divulge any of the other road, but that's what's in line for the taking championships.
20:45.726 --> 20:46.647
[UNKNOWN]: They got to fix something.
20:47.267 --> 20:50.728
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what's going to happen from this point on up until Summer's lamb.
20:50.748 --> 21:02.631
[UNKNOWN]: But it's it's dire in that division to say at least we had Carmella Hayes Ricky Sands winner face the trick Williams, which we'll talk about tonight's when we go over our night of champions predictions.
21:03.271 --> 21:04.911
[UNKNOWN]: Ricky Sands got the win over Carmella.
21:04.931 --> 21:06.612
[UNKNOWN]: He's getting the match at night of champions.
21:07.292 --> 21:19.980
[UNKNOWN]: I said this on my review Saturday, Jason, I like that Ricky's getting this match here because me personally, I would rather Carmelo get the match at SummerSlam on the bigger stage, but the white Carmelo lost on Friday.
21:20.560 --> 21:28.445
[UNKNOWN]: The turnbuckle inadvertently came off, he smashed the back of his head on the exposed steel, Ricky Saints took advantage of that and Ricky got the match.
21:28.945 --> 21:33.588
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to assume Carmelo is going to screw over Ricky in Saudi Arabia and then we'll
21:35.949 --> 21:41.594
[UNKNOWN]: and trick, possibly at Madison Square Garden, which I think is a great place for them to wrestle.
21:41.634 --> 21:42.655
[UNKNOWN]: They get the match there.
21:42.915 --> 21:46.899
[UNKNOWN]: Ricky does the same thing back to mellow, and we end up with a triple threat match at Summerslam.
21:46.919 --> 21:49.821
[UNKNOWN]: I think they're all going to kind of remain involved with each other going into Minneapolis.
21:49.841 --> 21:50.462
[UNKNOWN]: What do you think about that?
21:51.515 --> 21:52.975
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, I think they'll all be involved.
21:53.015 --> 21:57.017
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I don't see, you know, Milo costing him his match or anything like that.
21:57.057 --> 22:01.798
[UNKNOWN]: I think there's already too many other situations on that show where people may show up and interfere.
22:01.878 --> 22:04.079
[UNKNOWN]: I wouldn't be doing that in every single match on the card.
22:04.439 --> 22:06.999
[UNKNOWN]: I think there's a better chance of tricksters beating him straight up.
22:07.780 --> 22:13.521
[UNKNOWN]: And it doesn't mean that Ricky would just suddenly lay down and die and he would no longer be involved in the US title picture.
22:14.061 --> 22:18.423
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like we're gonna get a triple threat at some point, maybe Summerslam, how they
22:19.483 --> 22:25.427
[UNKNOWN]: How they come to that, if Ricky just loses clean here, I don't know, but they can basically do whatever they want.
22:26.268 --> 22:27.228
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, I mean, it's fine.
22:27.669 --> 22:31.952
[UNKNOWN]: You want to separate them out and do a singles match with these two, do a singles match.
22:32.012 --> 22:36.255
[UNKNOWN]: See, that's why I could see them doing a singles match with mellow and trick not at Summerslam.
22:36.815 --> 22:40.918
[UNKNOWN]: I could see them doing it before then, and then maybe doing it three way at Summerslam.
22:41.638 --> 22:47.042
[UNKNOWN]: There's something feels like we're just feels to me like we're not going to get a singles match between trick and mellow and Summerslam.
22:48.248 --> 22:53.693
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I know, uh, Ricky, Ricky has, he's got this slow burn to him.
22:53.773 --> 22:54.273
[UNKNOWN]: He comes out.
22:54.293 --> 22:55.154
[UNKNOWN]: He gets no reaction.
22:55.454 --> 22:56.956
[UNKNOWN]: His theme music is terrible, by the way.
22:57.156 --> 23:02.701
[UNKNOWN]: I don't, I said, whatever, whatever they decided that they tried to recreate his A, W, theme.
23:02.741 --> 23:03.421
[UNKNOWN]: It's not working.
23:03.782 --> 23:06.844
[UNKNOWN]: They got that terrible A, I spoken word.
23:07.285 --> 23:09.427
[UNKNOWN]: Welcome to the Revolution or whatever the fuck it says.
23:10.207 --> 23:31.728
[UNKNOWN]: uh... and then the music just doesn't hit against no reaction the crowd gave him a nice reaction when the match picked up because it's great wrestler as is car mellow but uh... he has a really hit on the main rossie at i would i would love for mellow to just get back involved that love for dragon off the get back they got a really talented midcard there uh... so see what happens going in tonight of champions i'm looking forward to mellow and trick in their interactions with the united states title
23:32.492 --> 23:36.554
[UNKNOWN]: Javan Evans and Jay Uso will will be brief with this.
23:36.614 --> 23:37.475
[UNKNOWN]: The match was fine.
23:37.495 --> 23:40.977
[UNKNOWN]: If you watch one Jay Uso match, you watched every Jay Uso match.
23:41.757 --> 23:48.721
[UNKNOWN]: Javan was selling the ribs from the spear from Brown, breaker on Monday and Jay Uso went on to win the Appinfall.
23:49.181 --> 23:50.722
[UNKNOWN]: So he advances to face Oba.
23:50.742 --> 23:53.023
[UNKNOWN]: And then in the main event, we had Charlotte and Liv Morgan.
23:53.503 --> 23:55.664
[UNKNOWN]: Charlotte was attacked before the main event.
23:56.125 --> 24:00.107
[UNKNOWN]: Jay Cargill and then not so baddies took them out or took her out.
24:00.887 --> 24:20.404
[UNKNOWN]: and she sold a knee the week before she was selling a wrist so she's all quote on quote banged up so Charlotte lost his match to live because of the knee and live advances to wrestle EOS guy at the paper view so that match was not anything special and that was what close Smackdown on Friday night.
24:21.449 --> 24:25.250
[UNKNOWN]: So I guess we'll talk about not a champion to Jason because really nothing happened on Monday and at raw.
24:25.270 --> 24:27.071
[UNKNOWN]: I saw that you were very brief with your review.
24:27.371 --> 24:28.991
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, there was just really nothing to dive into.
24:29.011 --> 24:29.611
[UNKNOWN]: Storyland wise.
24:29.631 --> 24:33.972
[UNKNOWN]: They basically gave you the the most low effort show that they could going into the paper view.
24:33.992 --> 24:40.714
[UNKNOWN]: So hopefully what we get on Saturday kind of results in some kind of, I don't know, some uptick in business going into some Islam.
24:41.415 --> 24:42.735
[UNKNOWN]: So we'll start with the king of the rank stuff.
24:43.768 --> 24:44.568
[UNKNOWN]: I'll start with the winning.
24:45.369 --> 24:53.013
[UNKNOWN]: Now, they did announce that the ESPN first hour, ESPN proper is getting both king and queen of the ring.
24:53.711 --> 24:57.833
[UNKNOWN]: I think that's going to factor into one of the matches here and why they're doing what they're doing.
24:57.873 --> 25:00.774
[UNKNOWN]: We'll talk about that in a second, but E.O.
25:00.794 --> 25:02.394
[UNKNOWN]: versus Liv Morgan.
25:03.095 --> 25:04.155
[UNKNOWN]: What do you make of this?
25:04.215 --> 25:10.138
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like this is a slam dunk easy creative decision for Triple H, but I don't really know.
25:10.678 --> 25:12.699
[UNKNOWN]: I live Morgan makes no sense to win Queen of the Ring.
25:13.119 --> 25:14.679
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going E all the way.
25:15.180 --> 25:16.180
[UNKNOWN]: What do you think happens here?
25:16.740 --> 25:18.521
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, Liv Morgan is not going to win.
25:19.445 --> 25:21.848
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, Liv Morgan shouldn't have been in this in the first place.
25:22.089 --> 25:22.229
[UNKNOWN]: No.
25:23.170 --> 25:23.951
[UNKNOWN]: She's not going to win.
25:24.392 --> 25:26.074
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't make any sense for her to win.
25:26.395 --> 25:28.257
[UNKNOWN]: We don't even know what real Ripley status is.
25:28.778 --> 25:31.682
[UNKNOWN]: We don't even know real Ripley's going to be defending the championship at SummerSlim.
25:32.751 --> 25:51.124
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, so yeah, I mean, this should be a slam dunk win for EO, and then I figure, you know, EO just, she wins and then probably ends up challenging live for the championship at SummerSlam, but maybe the question is, how or if Stephanie Vicarre factors into this?
25:51.822 --> 25:57.767
[UNKNOWN]: Because there have been reports that some WWE stars have been plagued by visa issues.
25:58.527 --> 26:02.070
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if she's one of those people if she's kind of factored into that.
26:02.090 --> 26:07.354
[UNKNOWN]: If that's the case, then I suppose her status would be completely up in the air going forward for the foreseeable future.
26:07.754 --> 26:09.215
[UNKNOWN]: But let's assume that she's available.
26:09.635 --> 26:11.157
[UNKNOWN]: She's going to pop that up soon.
26:11.177 --> 26:16.541
[UNKNOWN]: I would not at all mind an EO Stephanie Strait Singles rematch from the one we had a
26:21.255 --> 26:23.476
[UNKNOWN]: but maybe all three of them end up in some sort of match.
26:23.496 --> 26:29.020
[UNKNOWN]: I think there's a way to work Stephanie in there, but I definitely think EO wins and then challenges for the world heavyweight championship.
26:29.280 --> 26:31.041
[UNKNOWN]: At SummerSlam.
26:31.061 --> 26:32.042
[UNKNOWN]: I would not mind that.
26:32.082 --> 26:40.608
[UNKNOWN]: I would, you know, I've been thinking about Stephanie wanting to include her in plans, but I have kind of moved away from that because we just don't know.
26:40.628 --> 26:45.111
[UNKNOWN]: We haven't heard anything and I don't want to put her name in the discussions that we have.
26:46.406 --> 26:49.489
[UNKNOWN]: and just kind of factor her in when we don't really know what's going on.
26:49.929 --> 27:05.341
[UNKNOWN]: I said less not on my role review that the interaction between live Morgan last night in the judgment day clubhouse with the rest of them after Jamie McDonald got electrocuted and she's all like, you know, huffing and puffing about Dominic and, you know, uh, E.O.
27:05.361 --> 27:06.041
[UNKNOWN]: attacking her.
27:07.042 --> 27:18.006
[UNKNOWN]: Roxanne Perez was, was big lead last night, but I live more because she didn't give a shit what Roxanne Perez had to say, or she gave plans to Raquel and to Dominic and and Raquel, Roxanne's life, what about me?
27:18.306 --> 27:20.647
[UNKNOWN]: And then she, she gave basically no answer.
27:21.207 --> 27:23.768
[UNKNOWN]: Do you see Roxanne Perez potentially?
27:24.468 --> 27:43.543
[UNKNOWN]: Costing live either this match on Saturday or the world championship and we get at Summerslam Roxy versus live for the title or in a just shred one-on-one match depending on how we go here Um, I mean, I could actually see her inadvertent quote unquote inadvertently.
27:43.623 --> 27:45.565
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, uh costing her the queen of the ring
27:46.910 --> 27:50.911
[UNKNOWN]: You know, where you have to imagine the judgment they will get involved, try to help live win.
27:51.592 --> 28:09.518
[UNKNOWN]: And then if there's a backfire, it would probably be involving Roxanne, where she kind of accidentally on purpose, maybe, you know, cost her the match, and then you just kind of go from there with that story where live is living and, you know, you kind of build up the tension between her and Roxanne, who apologizes, I didn't mean it, I'm sorry.
28:09.538 --> 28:12.139
[UNKNOWN]: I think that could happen on Saturday.
28:12.419 --> 28:14.980
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think you have to wait until Summer's lamb to do that.
28:15.607 --> 28:19.210
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, no, I actually like that inadvertently cost her the match with E.O.
28:19.290 --> 28:34.063
[UNKNOWN]: then maybe she just purposely cost her the championship, whether it's against Stephanie or whoever else, I actually quite like E over Stephanie at at Summerslam, I am thinking and maybe this is foolish to me thinking down the road.
28:34.604 --> 28:37.767
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't know if they're doing crown jewel this year, I don't know why they wouldn't.
28:38.739 --> 28:40.900
[UNKNOWN]: Cody Rhodes and Roman Reigns is certainly on the table there.
28:41.500 --> 28:44.522
[UNKNOWN]: That's obviously something that people are, or maybe discussing.
28:45.082 --> 28:46.362
[UNKNOWN]: Stephanie versus that.
28:46.483 --> 28:46.683
[UNKNOWN]: No.
28:47.243 --> 28:47.903
[UNKNOWN]: We're not doing that.
28:48.063 --> 28:48.243
[UNKNOWN]: No?
28:48.904 --> 28:49.724
[UNKNOWN]: No.
28:49.764 --> 28:51.725
[UNKNOWN]: You think they're going to bulk on a third match with those guys?
28:52.085 --> 28:53.166
[UNKNOWN]: They're not given that away.
28:53.186 --> 28:56.027
[UNKNOWN]: I'm proud of that.
28:56.047 --> 28:56.187
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
28:56.227 --> 28:57.067
[UNKNOWN]: Why don't we get it then?
28:57.347 --> 28:58.048
[UNKNOWN]: If they do that.
28:58.148 --> 29:02.570
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's a wrestle, that's a summer slam.
29:02.610 --> 29:03.750
[UNKNOWN]: That's not a crown drill match.
29:04.371 --> 29:04.831
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry.
29:05.672 --> 29:09.815
[UNKNOWN]: You don't give that away because of me to third match between them at some point could be a big deal.
29:10.816 --> 29:13.838
[UNKNOWN]: You don't give that away in a non-title scenario.
29:13.858 --> 29:15.740
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, the crown jewel title who gives a fuck.
29:16.180 --> 29:19.082
[UNKNOWN]: You don't give that away on a show like crown jewel.
29:19.102 --> 29:19.523
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry.
29:20.303 --> 29:23.626
[UNKNOWN]: I listen, maybe we get maybe we get a rematch with Sammy and Roman at crown jewel.
29:23.806 --> 29:24.166
[UNKNOWN]: Who knows?
29:25.087 --> 29:26.148
[UNKNOWN]: There's a better chance of that.
29:26.188 --> 29:28.389
[UNKNOWN]: I think they're totally wrong.
29:28.409 --> 29:32.753
[UNKNOWN]: Well, when I want them to go before Jason shot down my Cody and Roman idea.
29:32.813 --> 29:34.294
[UNKNOWN]: Stephanie, the world champion against Rhea.
29:36.617 --> 29:38.818
[UNKNOWN]: I would much rather than rea and live again.
29:39.058 --> 29:40.739
[UNKNOWN]: Well, not or EO in rea.
29:41.159 --> 29:41.820
[UNKNOWN]: Or EO in rea.
29:41.840 --> 29:42.080
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
29:42.620 --> 29:42.820
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
29:43.401 --> 29:44.361
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
29:44.381 --> 29:52.706
[UNKNOWN]: The other idea that I had is if if EO win when EO wins the queen of the ring, I'm pretty confident she will maybe she challenges rea at summer slimes, that a possibility.
29:54.567 --> 29:58.429
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I mean, it's possible, but it would make any sense to me.
29:58.729 --> 30:00.470
[UNKNOWN]: Why would she pick her friend to go after?
30:02.352 --> 30:02.612
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
30:03.554 --> 30:03.954
[UNKNOWN]: But there is.
30:04.094 --> 30:05.717
[UNKNOWN]: Nobody on SmackDown for real though.
30:06.117 --> 30:06.237
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
30:06.257 --> 30:06.858
[UNKNOWN]: But they moved.
30:07.199 --> 30:07.679
[UNKNOWN]: They moved.
30:07.940 --> 30:10.764
[UNKNOWN]: They split them up and they moved rea over to SmackDown.
30:10.784 --> 30:12.847
[UNKNOWN]: I also don't think they want to move yo over there too.
30:14.170 --> 30:16.532
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think it's better for Raw if you keep you on Raw.
30:16.792 --> 30:17.112
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
30:17.533 --> 30:17.733
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
30:17.873 --> 30:20.735
[UNKNOWN]: I actually, uh, I like to Stephanie, the Stephanie thing.
30:20.855 --> 30:29.302
[UNKNOWN]: I was thinking about Rhea and EO, uh, just because looking at the landscape on SmackDown, if Rhea is able to go, there is really no body, because they got Charlotte Tadup with Jade.
30:29.742 --> 30:31.204
[UNKNOWN]: Tiffany's the United States champion.
30:31.544 --> 30:39.010
[UNKNOWN]: There really isn't anybody kind of set up outside of JC Jane that, uh, they could do with Rhea, but she's got the girls going after the tag team titles.
30:40.735 --> 30:43.338
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, again, J.C. Jane has been rumored.
30:43.358 --> 30:48.503
[UNKNOWN]: I think false finish had that report that she's at least in the discussions or the conversation.
30:48.563 --> 30:49.584
[UNKNOWN]: And I would be okay with that.
30:49.624 --> 30:52.006
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's not like a big marquee match or anything like that.
30:52.066 --> 30:59.013
[UNKNOWN]: But if they wanted to do Rhea and J.C.s, way to elevate J.C. you know, even if she doesn't win, that's fine.
30:59.053 --> 31:00.494
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, with that, that's fine.
31:00.534 --> 31:01.014
[UNKNOWN]: Fresh match.
31:01.355 --> 31:03.116
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it is.
31:03.477 --> 31:04.157
[UNKNOWN]: King of the Ring.
31:05.065 --> 31:11.307
[UNKNOWN]: Now, like I said, they announced that both King and Queen Finals are taking place on ESPN proper in the first hour.
31:12.327 --> 31:15.728
[UNKNOWN]: I would assume that Oba and Jay opens the show.
31:16.948 --> 31:25.771
[UNKNOWN]: Now, they did announce this and the first thing that I thought of was Brock Lesnar, because this fits right into what Brock Lesnar does.
31:26.591 --> 31:27.832
[UNKNOWN]: He usually shows up.
31:28.632 --> 31:29.652
[UNKNOWN]: They put him on early.
31:30.312 --> 31:32.533
[UNKNOWN]: He does what he has to do, and then he leaves.
31:33.783 --> 31:39.666
[UNKNOWN]: Did you get that sense last night when they announced that both of these matches would be taking place on the first hour or my just losing my mind?
31:49.698 --> 31:56.141
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think the fact that it's on ESPN doesn't, I mean, we all kind of suspected that it would happen anyway, regardless.
31:56.181 --> 32:00.784
[UNKNOWN]: So it certainly doesn't change my mind, you know, about Brock showing up.
32:00.824 --> 32:04.926
[UNKNOWN]: I thought there was a chance he might show up last night in London and he didn't.
32:05.926 --> 32:08.808
[UNKNOWN]: And it just, to me, it wouldn't be make any sense for him not to show up.
32:09.808 --> 32:11.329
[UNKNOWN]: But I go a different way with this set.
32:11.349 --> 32:15.093
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know what your thought process is on this.
32:15.673 --> 32:17.175
[UNKNOWN]: I have the same fears that you do.
32:17.715 --> 32:24.201
[UNKNOWN]: You know, when it comes to King Yeet, there's no scenario that I can think of.
32:24.722 --> 32:32.489
[UNKNOWN]: Now I understand that there's story there if you want to do Jay and Roman, or if you want to do Jay and Cody or Jay and Sammy, right?
32:32.509 --> 32:33.890
[UNKNOWN]: This, I don't give a shit.
32:33.910 --> 32:35.592
[UNKNOWN]: Jay and Jay and Jay and Jay and Jay and Jay and Jay and Jay and Jay.
32:39.622 --> 32:48.764
[UNKNOWN]: I, regardless, regardless, none of these scenarios, not one of them appeal to me, not one of them interest me in the slightest.
32:49.904 --> 32:57.526
[UNKNOWN]: So any jay who's so went to me is going to be just like, it's going to be, you know, not not of interest to me.
32:59.166 --> 33:01.126
[UNKNOWN]: I think that I'm going with Obafemi to win.
33:01.947 --> 33:03.667
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like Obafemi must win.
33:04.067 --> 33:08.048
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like jay who's so beating Obafemi interference or not would be ridiculous.
33:08.922 --> 33:10.162
[UNKNOWN]: and he already lost a Brock.
33:11.223 --> 33:22.227
[UNKNOWN]: And I feel like there's a way to do it at least, and even this to me is not an ideal scenario, but there is a way to go about doing it where Ober wins, Brock, I fully expect Brock to be there on Saturday.
33:23.247 --> 33:27.749
[UNKNOWN]: But my take is that Brock, he interferes with his ref bump or whatever.
33:27.789 --> 33:32.031
[UNKNOWN]: He gets involved, he fives him five times, whatever it is.
33:32.871 --> 33:36.872
[UNKNOWN]: And Ober still kicks out, despite him getting involved,
33:39.643 --> 33:43.710
[UNKNOWN]: And then you go in the direction of doing the split match.
33:43.830 --> 33:46.555
[UNKNOWN]: It's summer slim where, you know, he gets Brock on night one.
33:46.775 --> 33:47.817
[UNKNOWN]: And then he gets Roman.
33:47.837 --> 33:48.819
[UNKNOWN]: Let's say he picks Roman.
33:48.839 --> 33:49.981
[UNKNOWN]: He gets Roman on night two.
33:50.662 --> 33:53.026
[UNKNOWN]: And you have Ober Wrestling twice on the same show.
33:53.950 --> 34:00.139
[UNKNOWN]: And in that scenario, it doesn't necessarily mean that oba beats Brock and then loses to Roman.
34:00.659 --> 34:03.423
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't necessarily mean he beats Brock and beats Roman.
34:04.505 --> 34:07.348
[UNKNOWN]: He could very well lose to Brock and beat Roman.
34:07.409 --> 34:11.414
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, again, there's a bunch of different ways you can go with doing that.
34:12.353 --> 34:14.677
[UNKNOWN]: I just feel like J.U.
34:14.697 --> 34:17.020
[UNKNOWN]: So he just should not win this match.
34:17.681 --> 34:18.423
[UNKNOWN]: Oben needs to win.
34:18.883 --> 34:21.387
[UNKNOWN]: If Oben wins, I cannot imagine him picking Cody.
34:21.427 --> 34:24.592
[UNKNOWN]: I just don't, I understand they had a match on Saturday nights made event last year.
34:25.293 --> 34:26.355
[UNKNOWN]: I don't see him picking Cody.
34:27.771 --> 34:30.172
[UNKNOWN]: And so I think if he wins, Roman is the guy.
34:30.192 --> 34:31.353
[UNKNOWN]: He's the last night.
34:31.713 --> 34:32.793
[UNKNOWN]: He even put it to a vote.
34:32.993 --> 34:41.497
[UNKNOWN]: He said, if I can pick the WWE Championship and the reaction was like Luke warm, and then he said, or I could go after the World Heavyweight Championship and everybody cheered.
34:42.497 --> 34:44.038
[UNKNOWN]: So that told them everything they need to know.
34:44.078 --> 34:45.398
[UNKNOWN]: Like there's an interest in that match.
34:46.699 --> 34:48.640
[UNKNOWN]: I think Oben is to win, I think Oben does win.
34:48.760 --> 34:50.761
[UNKNOWN]: Even if Brock interferes, I don't think it works.
34:51.661 --> 34:55.783
[UNKNOWN]: Now, I know we talked about this particular scenario last week.
34:56.942 --> 35:15.771
[UNKNOWN]: And we both came up with a sound reason that if they do do Oba on night one against Brock and then Oba versus Roman on night two, they are basically splitting Oba's real estate that whole weekend and giving 50% of his attention to Brock and 50% of his attention to Roman.
35:16.371 --> 35:26.680
[UNKNOWN]: do you think that is a good way to go about it to give Roman 50% of all besetention when that in itself should be given a proper story weeks of build and a payoff in a match.
35:27.260 --> 35:29.142
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, it's not ideal.
35:29.362 --> 35:33.145
[UNKNOWN]: No, I just said it's not ideal, but it's to me it's the only way to go at this point.
35:34.486 --> 35:41.032
[UNKNOWN]: It's the only way to go because we know that they're not going to have brought come back and wrestle anybody else in Minneapolis, except over.
35:41.993 --> 35:44.475
[UNKNOWN]: So if you assume that match is happening no matter what,
35:45.980 --> 35:48.061
[UNKNOWN]: That would mean that Oba loses King of the Ring.
35:48.181 --> 35:53.683
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to see him lose King of the Ring, and I think it would be terrible for him to lose King of the Ring because of what that means.
35:54.603 --> 36:05.487
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm coming at this from the point of view of, okay, how do we navigate this with him winning King of the Ring understanding that he's gonna wrestle Brock at Summerslam, but you got two nights of Summerslam.
36:06.571 --> 36:16.905
[UNKNOWN]: So in a perfect world, I would not have Obafemi wrestling twice in one weekend, but in this situation, to me, it's the best of the circumstances that we're presented with.
36:18.012 --> 36:21.294
[UNKNOWN]: So, yeah, it's not ideal that he would get 50% of Romans' attention.
36:21.354 --> 36:28.337
[UNKNOWN]: I also don't think that if they wrestle that weekend, that would be the only Brock, or Obafemi Roman Reigns match that we would be getting.
36:28.637 --> 36:31.539
[UNKNOWN]: It's the first, but I don't think it would be the only one.
36:31.819 --> 36:36.761
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think it would stop them from rematching them, let's say, a WrestleMania next year.
36:36.942 --> 36:37.162
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
36:38.362 --> 36:39.443
[UNKNOWN]: It's actually a global loses.
36:39.823 --> 36:40.863
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that doesn't beat Roman.
36:41.123 --> 36:41.323
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
36:41.383 --> 36:47.006
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, that's going to be that's a difficult thing to even see as well, because you kind of leads into my next point.
36:47.146 --> 36:49.947
[UNKNOWN]: I think that is probably the most sound option here, though.
36:49.987 --> 36:54.769
[UNKNOWN]: It's not, it's not the one I go with here out of every option that we've had available.
36:55.429 --> 36:58.530
[UNKNOWN]: And we shouldn't even be in this situation as we have J.U.
36:58.550 --> 36:59.711
[UNKNOWN]: So maybe winning King of the Ring.
37:00.111 --> 37:02.592
[UNKNOWN]: But with that potentially happening,
37:03.986 --> 37:13.194
[UNKNOWN]: do you think that after everything we've gotten over the last two years where this company has legitimately every single time and we beg them to not do this.
37:14.635 --> 37:16.717
[UNKNOWN]: Triple H is basically played at Sesame Street.
37:17.217 --> 37:18.198
[UNKNOWN]: He's played it very safe.
37:18.718 --> 37:20.100
[UNKNOWN]: This is a ballsy move.
37:20.900 --> 37:25.905
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know how, I don't know why they would do this after everything we've gotten.
37:26.707 --> 37:30.669
[UNKNOWN]: The last time they took a chance like this was WrestleMania 40 and that was the ultimate payoff.
37:31.269 --> 37:47.076
[UNKNOWN]: To me, it does it make sense for Brock and Oba to, unless there's like a title shot on the line or a career thing on the line for Brock from night one leading in tonight to at least with Cody, it made sense with Roman because all the characters had weeks of build that big payoff on Saturday led to what happened on Sunday.
37:47.716 --> 37:54.259
[UNKNOWN]: It would just be them trying to recreate that moment here for the sake of recreating that moment so that they can come off as unpredictable.
37:55.134 --> 37:59.837
[UNKNOWN]: Do you feel with what we've seen over the last two years that they actually have it within themselves to be that crazy?
38:00.437 --> 38:03.680
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think that they have that, that, that, that in them to do that.
38:06.521 --> 38:06.962
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe not.
38:08.042 --> 38:14.727
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I'm not one who's, you know, going to give them the benefit of the doubt or anything like that because they probably don't deserve it.
38:15.712 --> 38:19.094
[UNKNOWN]: But I'm trying to be somewhat optimistic here.
38:19.314 --> 38:25.437
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just laying it out as I see it as what I feel like would be the best scenario here.
38:26.217 --> 38:27.438
[UNKNOWN]: Because we are where we are.
38:27.478 --> 38:31.179
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think you or I would have J use it when the finals to begin with, right?
38:31.199 --> 38:32.180
[UNKNOWN]: I think that's safe to say.
38:32.340 --> 38:32.520
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
38:33.160 --> 38:38.102
[UNKNOWN]: So just given the situation, given where we're at, I feel like this is gonna be the best option.
38:38.123 --> 38:39.363
[UNKNOWN]: Do they have the balls to do it?
38:39.383 --> 38:40.984
[UNKNOWN]: Do they have the creativity to do it?
38:41.104 --> 38:41.524
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
38:42.525 --> 38:43.025
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
38:44.150 --> 38:57.707
[UNKNOWN]: Mike, my intuition tells me now, I'm just telling you what I think is the best, the best of a bad situation here, because I don't think this is the king of the ring final that any of us were, we're hoping to see.
38:58.570 --> 39:02.872
[UNKNOWN]: Do you think that there is a possibility that Oba gets attacked?
39:03.032 --> 39:05.193
[UNKNOWN]: And we get someone to fill in his place on Saturday?
39:05.213 --> 39:05.973
[UNKNOWN]: It was that out the window.
39:05.993 --> 39:10.035
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, that, again, that was my idea that I first talked about a few weeks ago.
39:10.475 --> 39:13.276
[UNKNOWN]: And I think it's still like, it's still possible.
39:13.776 --> 39:19.039
[UNKNOWN]: I just think like, at this point, it's probably very unlikely because if it was going to happen, it probably would have happened last night.
39:20.439 --> 39:21.720
[UNKNOWN]: You give a week lead time.
39:22.040 --> 39:25.641
[UNKNOWN]: He gets taken out, you get people a week to start thinking, like, what are they going to do?
39:25.681 --> 39:26.942
[UNKNOWN]: Who's going to be the replacement?
39:28.058 --> 39:32.079
[UNKNOWN]: Now it's like, it wouldn't even make any sense now because what are you going to do?
39:32.099 --> 39:36.461
[UNKNOWN]: You're going to have, you just said like they're in the opening hour on ESPN.
39:36.481 --> 39:40.462
[UNKNOWN]: It may be the first match on ESPN and they're in Saudi Arabia.
39:41.323 --> 39:44.704
[UNKNOWN]: So we to believe that they're going to go on the air on the preshow.
39:44.724 --> 39:47.465
[UNKNOWN]: Let's say on Saturday and say, Oh, the hope has been attacked.
39:48.425 --> 39:50.566
[UNKNOWN]: Or hope is attacked as he's about to come out to the ring.
39:51.643 --> 39:54.386
[UNKNOWN]: We need somebody to take his place and there happens to be what?
39:55.047 --> 39:55.387
[UNKNOWN]: C.M.
39:55.407 --> 39:59.812
[UNKNOWN]: Ponga Randy Orton is just standing around waiting in Saudi to come out and take his place like this.
40:00.553 --> 40:02.395
[UNKNOWN]: At this point, it doesn't even make any sense.
40:02.455 --> 40:05.238
[UNKNOWN]: So no, it seems very unlikely that that's going to happen.
40:06.143 --> 40:15.268
[UNKNOWN]: Regardless, we are, uh, we are, uh, dwindling it down to, uh, only a couple of options here that they've left us with Jason's going with Oba.
40:15.788 --> 40:17.489
[UNKNOWN]: He's trying to be optimistic.
40:18.109 --> 40:28.494
[UNKNOWN]: I will, I'll, I'll, I'll more of all believe it when I see a type of guy and what they've, they've done with Jay us so you got to show me that you're not going to push him as hard as you are.
40:29.194 --> 40:30.175
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going Jay us so.
40:30.979 --> 40:36.103
[UNKNOWN]: Believe it or not, I'm going J. Uso, not because I want him to win, but because I don't trust Triple H to give us anything better.
40:37.665 --> 40:42.629
[UNKNOWN]: So that is the king and queen of the ring, steel cage match, Seth Rollins, Braun Breaker.
40:43.790 --> 40:45.852
[UNKNOWN]: I think, let me, let me, let me, let me stop you there.
40:45.972 --> 40:46.713
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, let me ask you this.
40:47.213 --> 40:53.999
[UNKNOWN]: Is this, is this your favorite king of the ring final since Mabel and Savio, baby, in 1995?
40:56.396 --> 41:02.498
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I don't think anything is as bad as that, but I mean, we'll wait for the outcome.
41:03.559 --> 41:07.780
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, let me, let me ask you, let me ask you a robotic question, would J. U.S.O.
41:07.800 --> 41:09.380
[UNKNOWN]: be a worst king of the ring were they're mabel?
41:13.081 --> 41:13.282
[UNKNOWN]: No.
41:14.302 --> 41:14.502
[UNKNOWN]: No.
41:15.322 --> 41:17.243
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, no, mabel was worse.
41:17.743 --> 41:17.983
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
41:19.203 --> 41:19.503
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
41:25.263 --> 41:27.625
[UNKNOWN]: still catch match with Seth Rollins and Brahmbreaker.
41:27.765 --> 41:31.988
[UNKNOWN]: I would assume that this is Taylor made for Seth Rollins victory.
41:32.128 --> 41:39.373
[UNKNOWN]: I was hoping that this would be the de facto number one contender match, not officially, but this would lead Rollins to Roman at Summerslam.
41:39.473 --> 41:40.935
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think we're going there.
41:42.175 --> 41:45.958
[UNKNOWN]: After what we've been seeing, I don't know what Rollins does at Summerslam.
41:46.259 --> 41:55.606
[UNKNOWN]: I just, in my opinion, feel he needs to be removed from this vision vortex, but I feel like even going into Summerslam, he's going to still be trapped in that vision vortex.
41:55.646 --> 42:08.897
[UNKNOWN]: I think we'll get the win over Brombreaker, and I think somehow some way with Bronson read on his way back, we'll probably get some mix mash of the profits and the vision and Rollins and Joe Hendry, what do you make of this situation?
42:11.288 --> 42:14.809
[UNKNOWN]: Um, well, yeah, I'm figuring Rollins is going to get the win here.
42:15.069 --> 42:18.870
[UNKNOWN]: I think Rollins, once he beats Breaker, he's done with the vision.
42:18.890 --> 42:19.470
[UNKNOWN]: Like that's it.
42:20.230 --> 42:20.770
[UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean?
42:20.790 --> 42:23.731
[UNKNOWN]: Like that, that's got to be it as far as him as the vision that it should be.
42:23.831 --> 42:24.051
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
42:25.151 --> 42:25.871
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it doesn't make it.
42:25.911 --> 42:32.013
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, the only healthy members that are currently medically cleared are Braun Breaker and Austin theory.
42:32.613 --> 42:40.095
[UNKNOWN]: So unless they're, they're planning a Seth Rollins bronze and read food when he comes back, I think it's safe to say that this is going to be it for Rollins and the
42:41.375 --> 42:55.922
[UNKNOWN]: And then for Summerslam, the only match I could really think of that would make sense, honestly, would be, you know, him and Roman, but again, well, we're talking about impeaching here is a completely different idea, so if Rollins was gonna go in a different direction for Summerslam, I don't know.
42:56.963 --> 42:57.963
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know who that would be.
42:58.163 --> 42:59.404
[UNKNOWN]: They haven't said anything up.
43:00.685 --> 43:03.906
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I mean, it's not like he's still feuding with Montez Ford.
43:04.467 --> 43:05.847
[UNKNOWN]: They put their differences aside.
43:05.867 --> 43:08.689
[UNKNOWN]: They had a match on Raw, so I mean, they're not doing that.
43:09.799 --> 43:13.462
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if not Roman, uh, what Seth would be doing on that show.
43:14.002 --> 43:19.987
[UNKNOWN]: Is there anybody else that they've even hinted at that he's had issues with that he could go off and wrestle on that show?
43:20.227 --> 43:26.091
[UNKNOWN]: Well, the only other person probably would have been L.A. night, but that was when L.A. night was still mixing it up with the vision.
43:26.512 --> 43:29.374
[UNKNOWN]: And now he hasn't been, he's more bloodline than anything.
43:30.327 --> 43:32.089
[UNKNOWN]: Well, he bounces back and forth between the two.
43:32.589 --> 43:35.171
[UNKNOWN]: It's basically over the last like three years.
43:35.211 --> 43:38.514
[UNKNOWN]: He's basically been either in the bloodline vortex or the vision vortex.
43:39.075 --> 43:41.697
[UNKNOWN]: He kind of bounces back like a ping pong ball between the two of them.
43:42.678 --> 43:44.540
[UNKNOWN]: He could always bounce back to the other way.
43:45.484 --> 43:47.947
[UNKNOWN]: I guess I don't know he got a win.
43:48.327 --> 43:49.708
[UNKNOWN]: He got a win on RAW last night.
43:49.949 --> 43:51.630
[UNKNOWN]: He did it wasn't clean But he got a win.
43:51.750 --> 43:53.792
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and it wasn't even really a win for him.
43:53.872 --> 43:55.814
[UNKNOWN]: It was more like solo So co-one the match.
43:56.075 --> 44:01.079
[UNKNOWN]: So like even when he wins, it's got to be there's got to be some kind of fuckery going out where somebody else is involved
44:01.720 --> 44:06.924
[UNKNOWN]: But I was like, man, and you know, the saddest part was of watching that at the end of that match.
44:07.505 --> 44:17.553
[UNKNOWN]: If you noticed, after he went over to Jimmy, and he hit the BFT, which is his finishing move, nobody reacted.
44:18.634 --> 44:20.095
[UNKNOWN]: Like, dude, it was silent.
44:20.275 --> 44:22.097
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that whole crowd fucking sucked last night.
44:22.897 --> 44:28.622
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, so I'm glad you brought that up, because I went on a bit of a rant last night, and I'm gonna,
44:32.362 --> 44:54.611
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not saying there aren't times where there is a genuinely good show and you just get a you just get a bad crowd right there are times where that can happen but it really pisses me off because so many times and this happens with w e this happens with a w is actually just happened recently i think with with Meltsor where if you get a bad crowd for a show
44:55.798 --> 44:57.800
[UNKNOWN]: People are inclined to blame the crowd.
44:58.401 --> 45:00.143
[UNKNOWN]: Why is this crowd so quiet?
45:00.664 --> 45:03.327
[UNKNOWN]: How come this crowd wasn't reacting to anything?
45:03.367 --> 45:05.449
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, this is just a bad crowd tonight.
45:05.469 --> 45:08.673
[UNKNOWN]: Then I'm like, you know, why don't you look at it a different way?
45:09.354 --> 45:16.482
[UNKNOWN]: Which is that if you actually gave that crowd something to cheer for and get excited about, then they probably would have reacted better to it.
45:17.834 --> 45:22.235
[UNKNOWN]: There were a lot of times where it goes that way, where it's like, this really wasn't that great of a show.
45:22.395 --> 45:27.477
[UNKNOWN]: And so I understand why the crowd maybe wasn't reacting in the way that you normally would think they would react.
45:27.717 --> 45:34.860
[UNKNOWN]: It was surprising, because London is usually a very loud crowd and they're chanting stuff and they're singing, and there was some of that last.
45:34.880 --> 45:36.480
[UNKNOWN]: They're like, oh, but got a great reaction.
45:36.500 --> 45:41.302
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you could pick certain people who even J use it when he came at everybody was eating and everything.
45:42.042 --> 45:42.362
[UNKNOWN]: But like,
45:43.868 --> 46:02.320
[UNKNOWN]: You got to stop blaming the crowd in a lot of these cases, because so many of these shows are just not good, like I imagine paying money in the kind of money WWE charges to go to these shows for two and a half hours, three hours, and like you watch the same shows that I watch and you know how bad some of these shows can be.
46:03.568 --> 46:07.351
[UNKNOWN]: You can't, like, and I'm gonna say you, but like you can't be blaming the crowd for that.
46:08.051 --> 46:13.656
[UNKNOWN]: The crowd will reward you with a great reaction if you give them something to get excited about.
46:14.516 --> 46:20.361
[UNKNOWN]: And maybe the fact that this is happening so often is a product of just these shows or fucking boring.
46:21.220 --> 46:23.902
[UNKNOWN]: But then I hear people like, yeah, oh, it's a crowd's fault.
46:23.942 --> 46:24.702
[UNKNOWN]: You're a bad crowd.
46:24.742 --> 46:25.403
[UNKNOWN]: That crowd.
46:25.443 --> 46:42.294
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
46:45.475 --> 46:46.616
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, please, I mean, they get a chance.
46:46.636 --> 46:48.297
[UNKNOWN]: You get to think it's a fucking world cup game.
46:48.317 --> 46:50.619
[UNKNOWN]: When you watch Macdown on Friday, it's gonna be so loud.
46:51.500 --> 47:01.048
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, like, again, maybe just pay attention to these reactions that these crowds are giving you because maybe you're not giving them what they would like to see in some cases.
47:01.088 --> 47:03.851
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I didn't blame the crowd at all on my end.
47:04.451 --> 47:05.692
[UNKNOWN]: But you just said it was a bad crowd.
47:05.872 --> 47:07.434
[UNKNOWN]: It was a bad crowd, it was a terrible show.
47:07.454 --> 47:08.315
[UNKNOWN]: It was a boring show.
47:08.695 --> 47:09.776
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, but that's a good crowd.
47:10.950 --> 47:24.840
[UNKNOWN]: because it would be a bad crowd if they were reacting well yeah you could look that way too but it was a bad crowd as a result of bad WWE booking and boring show so okay but I look at it differently I look at it is a good we need crowds that are going to react honestly
47:25.922 --> 47:32.087
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want them sharing a terrible show because it's just going to reinforce that you're going to make them think that, okay, well, they love what we're doing.
47:32.107 --> 47:33.087
[UNKNOWN]: We're just going to keep doing it.
47:33.568 --> 47:37.691
[UNKNOWN]: Like, if you give them a bad show, you should have a bad reaction from the crowd.
47:38.331 --> 47:50.861
[UNKNOWN]: At the end of the day, no matter what changes in wrestling, and I know like ticket sales maybe aren't as important as media rights deals now, it's a different wrestling business now than it was 20 or 30 years ago, but one thing has been constant.
47:52.242 --> 47:53.223
[UNKNOWN]: You look to the audience.
47:54.316 --> 47:59.542
[UNKNOWN]: All right, you look to the live crowds, you look to the audience, who's getting a reaction?
47:59.862 --> 48:01.324
[UNKNOWN]: Who's not getting a reaction?
48:01.404 --> 48:02.625
[UNKNOWN]: What are they excited for?
48:02.666 --> 48:04.147
[UNKNOWN]: What are they sitting on their hands for?
48:04.948 --> 48:06.270
[UNKNOWN]: Like that has been changed.
48:07.571 --> 48:10.675
[UNKNOWN]: So to me, the crowd is still the most important element to these shows.
48:11.418 --> 48:11.838
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, I agree.
48:12.339 --> 48:17.683
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, you know, the other excuses are her last night as to why the crowd was not all there was A.
48:18.303 --> 48:21.565
[UNKNOWN]: It was 95 degrees and that part of the world is going through a heat wave.
48:22.086 --> 48:29.551
[UNKNOWN]: So the fans were hot and there's not AC in and that part of the of London and B world cup.
48:30.332 --> 48:32.213
[UNKNOWN]: Everybody was more invested in the world cup.
48:32.533 --> 48:33.074
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, okay.
48:34.225 --> 48:40.855
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, so they they they're more invested in the world cup, but they find themselves that mundane at raw theo to arena People will always have an excuse
48:43.746 --> 48:45.747
[UNKNOWN]: You mean to tell me there was no air conditioning in that building?
48:46.368 --> 48:53.352
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if it was that, I'm sure the O2 has, uh... Yeah, I'm pretty sure the O2 has working air conditioning.
48:53.752 --> 49:01.116
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, who's over there, you can confirm that not everyone has air conditioning which is fucking inhumane am I?
49:01.136 --> 49:05.779
[UNKNOWN]: Do you make it sound like the UK's a fucking third world country over there, have no air conditioning?
49:05.979 --> 49:07.860
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure they have air conditioning if it was that hot.
49:09.088 --> 49:22.033
[UNKNOWN]: Anyway, uh, Rollins breaker, Rollins over breaker in the steel cage match, Tiffany Stratton defense the United States championship versus Jake Cargill, uh, how many times Jason did, did they wrestle before this was a three four times?
49:22.333 --> 49:34.298
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, I believe four times, I believe, none of which remember the, the two big ones were Summer slime last year and which Tiffany won and then Saturday night's main event, which is where Jade won the belt.
49:35.169 --> 49:55.738
[UNKNOWN]: uh... none of which i remember i do not care about this uh... i can't imagine this is going to result in anything better than what we've already been given tiffney shrattin wins here dc shrllet getting involved in that jade call shrllet the queen of the ring i would make sense to me i mean this woman was about to go out there for queen of the ring badge and head or need taken out
49:56.655 --> 49:59.179
[UNKNOWN]: why would Charlotte not return the favor to Jade?
49:59.219 --> 50:00.902
[UNKNOWN]: We know that's going to be the Summerslam match.
50:01.182 --> 50:01.943
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, right.
50:01.963 --> 50:03.445
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they're clearly building to that.
50:03.586 --> 50:10.316
[UNKNOWN]: So if I'm Charlotte, I don't know why I don't get involved and cost her the chance to be champion.
50:11.238 --> 50:15.624
[UNKNOWN]: I agree, don't Tiffany Shratton to retain what Tiffany does at Summerslam that remains to be seen.
50:15.644 --> 50:18.047
[UNKNOWN]: And then, uh, we have anything.
50:18.407 --> 50:18.728
[UNKNOWN]: If anything.
50:18.828 --> 50:19.328
[UNKNOWN]: If anything.
50:19.409 --> 50:19.769
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure.
50:19.789 --> 50:21.211
[UNKNOWN]: I'm assuming she's going to defend the title.
50:21.251 --> 50:21.912
[UNKNOWN]: It's Summerslam.
50:22.052 --> 50:22.573
[UNKNOWN]: Silly me.
50:23.514 --> 50:25.436
[UNKNOWN]: You're not.
50:25.456 --> 50:25.717
[UNKNOWN]: Silly me.
50:25.977 --> 50:29.061
[UNKNOWN]: The only reason she's defending the title on this show is because Rear Ripley is her.
50:29.141 --> 50:29.361
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
50:30.217 --> 50:34.059
[UNKNOWN]: So this, this match wouldn't even be happening on this show if Rio was healthy.
50:34.380 --> 50:35.440
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, 100%.
50:36.021 --> 50:40.043
[UNKNOWN]: And then trick Williams versus Ricky Saints for the men's United States championship.
50:40.103 --> 50:45.186
[UNKNOWN]: Trick Williams will retain no reason at all to take the belt off of trick Williams.
50:46.047 --> 50:48.628
[UNKNOWN]: And that is actually we got one more.
50:48.949 --> 50:49.429
[UNKNOWN]: We got one more.
50:49.469 --> 50:54.012
[UNKNOWN]: How could I forget Cody, Goonther, Sami Zayn on this be the championship main event of the night of champions.
50:55.422 --> 51:08.707
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I have, I think I was maybe one of the first people that have publicly stated in the community that I think WWE should absolutely belt Sami's and people looked at me like I had fucking six heads.
51:08.767 --> 51:09.548
[UNKNOWN]: How could you man?
51:09.568 --> 51:11.689
[UNKNOWN]: That's a terrible idea and all this other nonsense.
51:11.729 --> 51:17.251
[UNKNOWN]: Now I see more people kind of warming up to the idea, which I didn't think was a terrible idea to begin with.
51:18.572 --> 51:24.633
[UNKNOWN]: I could sit here and tell you Jason the tell everybody here in the chat that I think Sammy should win this match and I do think he should win this match.
51:24.893 --> 51:27.634
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think WWE is going to pull the trigger on it.
51:28.354 --> 51:33.215
[UNKNOWN]: I just don't, I don't feel like they have it within them to take the belt off Cody Rhodes.
51:33.275 --> 51:40.796
[UNKNOWN]: It's like severing that tie between the company and Cody that they can't physically just do.
51:41.837 --> 51:42.837
[UNKNOWN]: Sammy should win the belt.
51:43.653 --> 51:53.207
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm thinking, if we end up the way we are and over does win, and he gets Roman, I would not mind Sammy and Cody main event in Somerslam.
51:53.748 --> 51:56.392
[UNKNOWN]: I think that is absolutely a night one main event.
51:56.432 --> 51:57.413
[UNKNOWN]: I could get behind that 100%.
51:58.715 --> 52:09.059
[UNKNOWN]: I think if Sammy and Cody do get a rematch, one on one at Summerslam, I would absolutely belt Sammy coming out of Summerslam and then you can have at least a month or two months Sammy's a new world title run.
52:09.659 --> 52:13.701
[UNKNOWN]: I won't even mind if you want it here and then lost it back to Cody, but we've been there done that with Cody.
52:13.721 --> 52:14.401
[UNKNOWN]: He lost the belt.
52:14.441 --> 52:17.303
[UNKNOWN]: He went back from Cena, had that happened at Summerslam.
52:17.803 --> 52:23.125
[UNKNOWN]: I think we do Sammy Cody Summerslam if all things kind of work out the way we want for the world championship.
52:23.165 --> 52:24.685
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think he wins the belt here on Saturday.
52:29.152 --> 52:32.175
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to go say amazing to win the WWE Championship.
52:33.056 --> 52:34.138
[UNKNOWN]: And we're very much.
52:35.294 --> 52:41.716
[UNKNOWN]: And then, yeah, probably, yeah, because Cody, I mean, Cody is going to be in one of the two main events at Summer Slav, yeah, like that's, I mean, give me a break.
52:41.736 --> 52:43.337
[UNKNOWN]: Of course, he's going to be in one of those matches.
52:44.197 --> 52:59.443
[UNKNOWN]: So, yeah, I just, and maybe, again, maybe part of it is like, this is more of a, of a hope than anything else, because as we said before, he really has become the most compelling thing on that show every week, and he's got a good thing going right now.
53:00.903 --> 53:04.126
[UNKNOWN]: But it's kind of sad that I think we're sitting here saying this.
53:04.166 --> 53:11.414
[UNKNOWN]: You're picking Cody, I'm picking Sammy, and we're not even talking about the possibility of Gunther winning the championship.
53:11.654 --> 53:11.834
[UNKNOWN]: No.
53:12.054 --> 53:13.295
[UNKNOWN]: And he's coming off.
53:13.316 --> 53:15.157
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he just lost.
53:15.638 --> 53:20.062
[UNKNOWN]: I guess technically that that second match on Friday was thrown away, I guess.
53:20.162 --> 53:22.525
[UNKNOWN]: But he's coming off two straight losses.
53:23.894 --> 53:30.938
[UNKNOWN]: If you don't count the crown jewel match from two years ago, which would make it three straight losses, the technically he's over three against Cody Rhodes.
53:31.858 --> 53:37.482
[UNKNOWN]: And this is a guy who was so heavily protected, and they gave him the John Cena spot in Cena's last match.
53:37.502 --> 53:41.344
[UNKNOWN]: They gave him, you know, AJ Styles, his last match at the Royal Rumble.
53:42.124 --> 53:44.485
[UNKNOWN]: And then they had nothing for him.
53:45.286 --> 53:48.788
[UNKNOWN]: There was a period of three or four weeks where he just disappeared from television altogether.
53:49.828 --> 53:56.371
[UNKNOWN]: Right, the whole thing with him in Seth Rollins was just so slap dash almost like last minute heading into Mania.
53:57.411 --> 53:59.672
[UNKNOWN]: He's lost a lot in the last six months.
53:59.692 --> 54:00.532
[UNKNOWN]: I don't mean like matches.
54:00.573 --> 54:07.375
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, in terms of just, or he uses word, yes, or he's lost a lot in the last six months.
54:07.936 --> 54:10.377
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he feels like he feels like just anybody else on the wrong.
54:10.397 --> 54:12.217
[UNKNOWN]: It's just another guy now on that show.
54:12.277 --> 54:13.678
[UNKNOWN]: He's just, he's just another guy.
54:14.078 --> 54:15.359
[UNKNOWN]: He's just another guy.
54:17.093 --> 54:25.359
[UNKNOWN]: on SmackDown, and I sit here and I'm like, if he wins, and you and I think that Cody is going to be in the main event no matter what.
54:26.460 --> 54:29.862
[UNKNOWN]: Does that entice you another Cody and come through match at Summerslam?
54:29.922 --> 54:30.002
[UNKNOWN]: No.
54:30.042 --> 54:30.463
[UNKNOWN]: No.
54:30.483 --> 54:32.284
[UNKNOWN]: See, no, he times in the last.
54:32.304 --> 54:34.546
[UNKNOWN]: And my question is if we do go to Sammy.
54:34.726 --> 54:38.809
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, if we do go Cody and Sammy at Summerslam, what does going through do at Summerslam?
54:39.369 --> 54:42.071
[UNKNOWN]: What do they have him doing on SmackDown at Summerslam?
54:43.992 --> 54:45.193
[UNKNOWN]: I can't even think of anything.
54:45.613 --> 54:46.074
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
54:46.757 --> 54:47.197
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
54:47.477 --> 54:52.941
[UNKNOWN]: How they fumbled this guy coming out of Johnson's retirement is just a fumble of epic proportions.
54:53.561 --> 55:01.906
[UNKNOWN]: I look at it, you know, you can predate it back to when Goonther and Shai Uso wrestled at WrestleMania and Goonther tapped out to Uso in about three seconds.
55:02.526 --> 55:04.207
[UNKNOWN]: I think it all started the downfall there.
55:05.328 --> 55:12.132
[UNKNOWN]: They really sacrificed Goonther for Shai Uso and it all started the downfall at that point in time and you never recovered.
55:12.552 --> 55:14.013
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think people ever looked at him the same.
55:14.990 --> 55:26.394
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if you agree with that, but I mean, some people, maybe some people, but I mean, they did a good job late last year after he came back, I don't know what the issue was with his nose.
55:26.454 --> 55:30.595
[UNKNOWN]: But after he lost the title to punk, he went away for a while after Summerslam came back.
55:30.615 --> 55:34.536
[UNKNOWN]: He was in the John Cena tournament and then he beat Cena.
55:34.616 --> 55:36.677
[UNKNOWN]: He was able to regain, I think, a lot of what he had
55:37.858 --> 55:40.118
[UNKNOWN]: He'll perceive to have lost coming out of that.
55:40.799 --> 55:44.159
[UNKNOWN]: It's just what's happened over the last six months, which is not a whole hell of a lot.
55:44.239 --> 55:48.940
[UNKNOWN]: That to me, like the last six months have done more damage than that.
55:49.500 --> 55:52.481
[UNKNOWN]: Just by virtue of him, not doing a whole lot.
55:52.741 --> 55:56.242
[UNKNOWN]: And then when he finally gets a shot at the championship on the other brand, he loses.
55:57.242 --> 55:58.282
[UNKNOWN]: And then he loses again.
55:58.302 --> 56:03.403
[UNKNOWN]: And I understand like the first time his foot was under the rope and then on Friday, Sammy screwed him.
56:03.463 --> 56:06.464
[UNKNOWN]: And so he has these built-in excuses, but still, he got beat.
56:07.781 --> 56:10.662
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, sure, I mean, there's a possibility he could win on Saturday.
56:10.862 --> 56:11.583
[UNKNOWN]: I don't see it.
56:12.283 --> 56:16.525
[UNKNOWN]: But if you wins, I don't like, I don't like what that means for SummerSlam.
56:17.285 --> 56:19.646
[UNKNOWN]: Because at that point, it's too much.
56:19.706 --> 56:24.589
[UNKNOWN]: We've already seen, it's like the same reason I did not want Cody and Drew at WrestleMania.
56:25.469 --> 56:30.851
[UNKNOWN]: If you would have done Cody and Drew again at WrestleMania, we already saw it all bunch of times.
56:30.991 --> 56:33.913
[UNKNOWN]: If you could not just run that back as the WrestleMania main event,
56:34.801 --> 56:41.649
[UNKNOWN]: I feel the same way here, like if Gunther wins the title and then Cody challenges him for it, in August, it's like, been there done that.
56:42.190 --> 56:43.171
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to see that again.
56:44.032 --> 56:45.294
[UNKNOWN]: I'd rather he not win the belt.
56:45.815 --> 56:45.975
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
56:46.976 --> 56:50.160
[UNKNOWN]: I'd rather he lose again and not win the belt on Saturday.
56:51.420 --> 56:57.722
[UNKNOWN]: And then if Sammy's going to win the championship as I think he will, uh, let him let him pin Cody in that trip.
56:57.762 --> 57:07.205
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm just a little protect, yeah, you can still protect Gunther by not pinning him again, um, but I think if Sammy does win the belt, he, he will and should pin Cody to do it.
57:09.006 --> 57:11.067
[UNKNOWN]: Any chance of another triple throughout match at Summer's?
57:12.827 --> 57:13.347
[UNKNOWN]: Another one.
57:14.928 --> 57:16.108
[UNKNOWN]: I don't need to go back.
57:16.248 --> 57:17.189
[UNKNOWN]: What else does he do?
57:17.629 --> 57:18.629
[UNKNOWN]: It's still, I don't know.
57:18.989 --> 57:19.469
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
57:19.509 --> 57:20.230
[UNKNOWN]: And here's the thing.
57:20.310 --> 57:20.970
[UNKNOWN]: I don't care.
57:22.507 --> 57:25.109
[UNKNOWN]: I really don't care that's sad I don't care either over it.
57:25.270 --> 57:26.010
[UNKNOWN]: I'm kind of over it.
57:26.170 --> 57:29.794
[UNKNOWN]: We don't know where punk lands We don't know if he's gonna be back before summer slam.
57:29.814 --> 57:30.835
[UNKNOWN]: We're assuming that he will.
57:31.515 --> 57:34.418
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean I think it was months ago a few months ago
57:35.898 --> 57:41.421
[UNKNOWN]: I had pitched this idea of maybe at Summerslam, like a Summerslam match.
57:41.501 --> 57:45.802
[UNKNOWN]: Once Gunther got moved over to Fridays between Gunther and Ilya Draganov.
57:46.083 --> 57:46.283
[UNKNOWN]: Yes?
57:46.783 --> 57:49.684
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't know if it's a visa.
57:49.744 --> 57:52.626
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what's going on with him, but he's just been gone.
57:53.606 --> 57:55.747
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know when we're gonna see him again.
57:56.407 --> 57:59.088
[UNKNOWN]: Every time I see him, he's training in the dungeon.
57:59.108 --> 58:00.989
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, okay, that's great.
58:01.189 --> 58:02.010
[UNKNOWN]: I don't really think he,
58:02.939 --> 58:23.052
[UNKNOWN]: that's a serily needs to be so he's training at natties dungeon and he's and he's not on yet he's been training at natties dungeon now for for weeks and weeks yeah he's yeah there's been photos he's he's there for like every dungeon training session if w w ain't put him on tv and it's their own fucking decision to do that's awful holy shutt it know that
58:23.682 --> 58:36.167
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so again, I don't know what the visa stuff if it's it's more like you can't work so maybe he's training but he can't work and again, we're just spit ball and we don't know if it's a visa issue.
58:36.227 --> 58:43.411
[UNKNOWN]: We are just so mystified by how he just vanished and is not being used on TV.
58:43.451 --> 58:45.872
[UNKNOWN]: We have to assume there's a valid reason for it.
58:46.692 --> 58:49.213
[UNKNOWN]: We're just assuming there has to be some valid reason for it.
58:49.233 --> 58:50.114
[UNKNOWN]: He's not injured.
58:54.753 --> 58:58.597
[UNKNOWN]: The fact is, he hasn't been around, and so there hasn't been ample time to build to that.
58:58.617 --> 59:00.398
[UNKNOWN]: That would be all like on the Undercard.
59:01.339 --> 59:07.265
[UNKNOWN]: Gunther against Illya Dragon, obviously, a summer slime match that would have been fucking great, but doesn't look like that's in the cards.
59:07.765 --> 59:08.666
[UNKNOWN]: So what does he do?
59:09.847 --> 59:10.528
[UNKNOWN]: Fuck if I know.
59:11.008 --> 59:11.789
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what he does.
59:11.809 --> 59:14.251
[UNKNOWN]: It's sort of cool to let rest of the can, right?
59:14.391 --> 59:15.192
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what he's doing.
59:15.212 --> 59:16.053
[UNKNOWN]: Is he even on the show?
59:17.654 --> 59:20.257
[UNKNOWN]: No one in this company, no, probably not.
59:21.921 --> 59:35.099
[UNKNOWN]: uh... wears mac and tire i saw some people in the chat asking where mac and tire is mac and tire is missed a hollywood now he's got uh... one movie in the can and now he's filming another one so mac and tire probably won't be back until uh... the late fall early winter
59:36.109 --> 59:37.010
[UNKNOWN]: Let him do it.
59:37.110 --> 59:39.353
[UNKNOWN]: We had a proper, a proper star.
59:39.793 --> 59:43.057
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it was cut to the crowd on these shows to show all the celebrities in the crowd.
59:43.077 --> 59:47.963
[UNKNOWN]: And it's like, Zufo boxing is on like, fuck is this person.
59:48.884 --> 59:51.006
[UNKNOWN]: But last night they had Jason Statham was in the crowd.
59:51.287 --> 59:51.907
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I saw that.
59:52.668 --> 59:56.651
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm like, holy shit, an actual star, an actual celebrities in the crowd.
59:56.691 --> 59:58.913
[UNKNOWN]: Is he a fan of WWE Legitimately?
59:58.973 --> 59:59.413
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
59:59.613 --> 01:00:00.494
[UNKNOWN]: Or is he paid to be like?
01:00:01.414 --> 01:00:01.795
[UNKNOWN]: No, he was.
01:00:01.815 --> 01:00:02.835
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think he was paid to be there.
01:00:02.975 --> 01:00:03.216
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
01:00:03.396 --> 01:00:04.596
[UNKNOWN]: I think he was there with his kids, right?
01:00:04.617 --> 01:00:05.477
[UNKNOWN]: He had a bunch of kids.
01:00:05.677 --> 01:00:05.837
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
01:00:06.738 --> 01:00:10.561
[UNKNOWN]: So I assume his kids were a fan, or maybe he's a casual fan.
01:00:11.922 --> 01:00:20.087
[UNKNOWN]: He's got a new movie coming out soon, because the last couple times I went to the movies, they have had a trailer for it, this movie called Mutiny, where it's on like a ship.
01:00:20.848 --> 01:00:21.028
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:00:21.971 --> 01:00:23.791
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, he just kills a bunch of people.
01:00:24.072 --> 01:00:26.192
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm all about that.
01:00:27.572 --> 01:00:29.473
[UNKNOWN]: You're like, a good, a good movie, that don't you?
01:00:30.073 --> 01:00:31.433
[UNKNOWN]: So sounds good to me.
01:00:31.453 --> 01:00:31.913
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:00:32.554 --> 01:00:36.394
[UNKNOWN]: I said, it looks like die, like die hard, too, was on a plane instead of being on a plane.
01:00:36.414 --> 01:00:36.935
[UNKNOWN]: It's on a ship.
01:00:37.595 --> 01:00:40.335
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they just announced, Blair Witch has come in next year.
01:00:42.036 --> 01:00:43.456
[UNKNOWN]: So is that like a reboot?
01:00:44.076 --> 01:00:44.716
[UNKNOWN]: Total reboot?
01:00:44.756 --> 01:00:46.037
[UNKNOWN]: I wouldn't be surprised if it's a reboot.
01:00:46.057 --> 01:00:47.117
[UNKNOWN]: I heard the last one was terrible.
01:00:48.480 --> 01:00:50.300
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's September 2027.
01:00:50.340 --> 01:00:52.381
[UNKNOWN]: I said the little teaser for it.
01:00:52.921 --> 01:00:53.861
[UNKNOWN]: Ah, you know what else I saw.
01:00:54.281 --> 01:00:57.162
[UNKNOWN]: And then they made the announcement of one of these conventions a few days ago.
01:00:58.142 --> 01:01:00.383
[UNKNOWN]: There isn't, and this, it surprised me.
01:01:01.003 --> 01:01:02.824
[UNKNOWN]: I guess this has been in the words for a while.
01:01:02.884 --> 01:01:03.764
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I saw this.
01:01:03.804 --> 01:01:06.024
[UNKNOWN]: I was going to add you today, but I figured you already saw it.
01:01:06.265 --> 01:01:11.246
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, so a thundercats is getting a movie, but it's animated.
01:01:11.766 --> 01:01:12.746
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I thought, I don't know.
01:01:12.766 --> 01:01:14.967
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry about, uh, new Halloween, new Halloween movies,
01:01:17.073 --> 01:01:17.693
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't see that.
01:01:17.753 --> 01:01:18.794
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, I saw that today on Twitter.
01:01:18.814 --> 01:01:21.515
[UNKNOWN]: I was going to add you on that, but I figured you already saw it, but apparently you didn't.
01:01:23.696 --> 01:01:24.696
[UNKNOWN]: Wow.
01:01:24.756 --> 01:01:25.157
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:01:25.277 --> 01:01:26.977
[UNKNOWN]: I thought they were giving that a rest for a few years.
01:01:27.418 --> 01:01:28.118
[UNKNOWN]: No?
01:01:28.158 --> 01:01:28.378
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:01:28.598 --> 01:01:29.278
[UNKNOWN]: It's been green lit.
01:01:29.298 --> 01:01:30.539
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know when filming starts.
01:01:30.639 --> 01:01:31.479
[UNKNOWN]: I think 2027.
01:01:31.519 --> 01:01:31.860
[UNKNOWN]: Hmm.
01:01:33.380 --> 01:01:34.000
[UNKNOWN]: I gotta look at it.
01:01:34.161 --> 01:01:34.541
[UNKNOWN]: No.
01:01:34.661 --> 01:01:36.602
[UNKNOWN]: It's a Thundercats animated movie.
01:01:38.162 --> 01:01:38.703
[UNKNOWN]: Interesting.
01:01:39.303 --> 01:01:41.344
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I was, I was, what was I?
01:01:41.844 --> 01:01:42.184
[UNKNOWN]: Thundercats?
01:01:42.204 --> 01:01:44.125
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if I was big into Thundercats.
01:01:46.671 --> 01:01:53.188
[UNKNOWN]: I am familiar with Thundercats, but yeah, I'd be, I'd be into a lot of this all our late early 80s, mid 80s and nostalgia.
01:01:53.228 --> 01:01:54.732
[UNKNOWN]: Just fucking kick it out nowadays.
01:01:55.362 --> 01:01:56.883
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I wouldn't say it's kicking ass.
01:01:56.923 --> 01:02:00.664
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, what I was going to say is, like, masters of the universe was a gigantic flop.
01:02:01.164 --> 01:02:09.648
[UNKNOWN]: So the fact that they're doing a Thundercats movie, I first, when I heard that, I said, wait, if this is live action, this is going to fucking die on the vine.
01:02:10.768 --> 01:02:19.432
[UNKNOWN]: Because it was one of these things, kind of like, he-man that was really super popular before a very limited, it didn't really carry over into the 90s and the 2000s.
01:02:20.502 --> 01:02:23.585
[UNKNOWN]: So like, what kind of drawing power is a Thundercats movie?
01:02:23.625 --> 01:02:26.487
[UNKNOWN]: In 2020, I don't even know when it comes out.
01:02:26.527 --> 01:02:27.808
[UNKNOWN]: Let's say, 2027.
01:02:27.828 --> 01:02:30.050
[UNKNOWN]: Like, what kind of drawing power is that movie gonna have?
01:02:30.971 --> 01:02:35.395
[UNKNOWN]: But if it's animated, at least I can't imagine it's gonna have like a super high budget.
01:02:36.456 --> 01:02:38.317
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't even know if it would get at the theatrical release.
01:02:38.357 --> 01:02:41.079
[UNKNOWN]: It could be like one of these streaming service kind of things.
01:02:41.160 --> 01:02:43.982
[UNKNOWN]: But like, it'll appear to the old folkies like us.
01:02:44.703 --> 01:02:45.503
[UNKNOWN]: Sure, sure.
01:02:45.743 --> 01:02:46.964
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, I'm okay with that.
01:02:47.847 --> 01:02:50.811
[UNKNOWN]: Why no, and maybe they should have made he mad fucking animated.
01:02:50.831 --> 01:02:55.358
[UNKNOWN]: They still missed them, Mike.
01:02:57.153 --> 01:03:00.115
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, man, I love it early late 80s nostalgia man.
01:03:00.135 --> 01:03:01.276
[UNKNOWN]: I'm on this transformer's kick.
01:03:01.296 --> 01:03:02.537
[UNKNOWN]: I was telling Jason in the sound check.
01:03:02.577 --> 01:03:09.143
[UNKNOWN]: I got These Hasbro Fucking like mega-tron my big mega-tron one that talks and moves on its own.
01:03:09.763 --> 01:03:15.948
[UNKNOWN]: I got Optimus Prime and sound wave on the way coming to the house So I've been on this transformer's kick lately because we're still ready for this.
01:03:16.368 --> 01:03:18.510
[UNKNOWN]: You're gonna have a whole transformer's fleet
01:03:19.090 --> 01:03:29.521
[UNKNOWN]: That's the whole yeah, I mean while my mom threw them all away when when I got older I had the original original ones, but I'll never be able to replace that stuff, but That'd be worth something today.
01:03:29.621 --> 01:03:40.492
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, yes, because when I went to Comic Con a couple years ago the original original Optimus Prime and Megatron were in a display case in their seal boxes Megatron was going for $12,000
01:03:42.225 --> 01:03:48.412
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like you all the fucker I had it in my hands and then it was in the trash the next time yeah, but that's probably like mint conditions.
01:03:48.452 --> 01:03:54.258
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, yes, yes None of my toys I beat this shit out of those things.
01:03:54.498 --> 01:03:58.502
[UNKNOWN]: What are the one of these years all by it when I went on retired from pro wrestling content.
01:03:58.522 --> 01:04:00.364
[UNKNOWN]: I'll spend all my earnings on fucking megatron
01:04:01.892 --> 01:04:07.197
[UNKNOWN]: Um, the only thing I want to talk about from Raw because like we talked about earlier was it was largely a boring show.
01:04:07.237 --> 01:04:10.019
[UNKNOWN]: The heel turn from Lyra on Bailey.
01:04:10.740 --> 01:04:17.125
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, I kind of, you kind of felt it was telegraphed coming into the match or it was either going to be Bailey or Lyra turning.
01:04:17.145 --> 01:04:21.069
[UNKNOWN]: I'm glad that they actually made it Lyra Jason because we've seen a Bailey heel turn.
01:04:21.089 --> 01:04:22.210
[UNKNOWN]: I thought she was a great heel.
01:04:22.650 --> 01:04:23.010
[UNKNOWN]: I wouldn't know.
01:04:23.050 --> 01:04:28.135
[UNKNOWN]: I wouldn't have personally minded it again, but seeing Lyra now kind of go into heel mode.
01:04:29.042 --> 01:04:31.283
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think she really connected with the audience.
01:04:31.724 --> 01:04:37.087
[UNKNOWN]: I think there was like, there was some connection there, but it was never really fully embraced by the fan base.
01:04:37.127 --> 01:04:44.891
[UNKNOWN]: I think her kind of over the top kind of comedy, just like her sense of humor, her attitude, her sassiness.
01:04:45.231 --> 01:04:46.352
[UNKNOWN]: They really connect with the audience.
01:04:46.812 --> 01:04:49.514
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to be very interested, which her blitz does with a heel lierah.
01:04:49.954 --> 01:04:52.916
[UNKNOWN]: How we get that character shift from what we got to where we are now.
01:04:53.276 --> 01:04:55.397
[UNKNOWN]: Would you make of them actually making the decision here?
01:04:57.116 --> 01:04:59.958
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I'd prefer that over just turning Bailey heel again.
01:04:59.978 --> 01:05:02.280
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like Bailey's gone back and forth a few times now.
01:05:03.320 --> 01:05:06.282
[UNKNOWN]: Last time she was hearing voices in her head and then she just wasn't.
01:05:06.482 --> 01:05:07.003
[UNKNOWN]: Any more?
01:05:07.083 --> 01:05:08.384
[UNKNOWN]: They kind of just dropped it.
01:05:09.950 --> 01:05:22.296
[UNKNOWN]: So it was kind of a swore because I think most people would have expected if anybody was going to go heal, it was going to be Bailey and instead it was Lyra and I've never seen Lyra as a heal so I don't know if she can pull it off, I don't know if WWE can pull it off.
01:05:23.057 --> 01:05:26.819
[UNKNOWN]: We trusted WWE with the John Cena Hill turn last year and we see how that worked out.
01:05:27.939 --> 01:05:32.942
[UNKNOWN]: I would certainly hope that they can have more success with this and so if they give Lyra the
01:05:35.082 --> 01:05:37.704
[UNKNOWN]: We'll see, again, I think she's a great baby face.
01:05:38.264 --> 01:05:40.866
[UNKNOWN]: I question whether or not she can pull off the heel thing.
01:05:41.386 --> 01:05:52.112
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if that means maybe changing the music and changing other aspects of her presentation, but somebody in my live chat last night they had a great, great line.
01:05:53.113 --> 01:05:55.014
[UNKNOWN]: I was talking about the segment.
01:05:55.054 --> 01:05:59.377
[UNKNOWN]: They go, you know, we call her bird girl and they said angry bird.
01:06:02.065 --> 01:06:03.266
[UNKNOWN]: She's an angry bird now.
01:06:03.366 --> 01:06:05.787
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, yes, yes, she is.
01:06:05.887 --> 01:06:06.768
[UNKNOWN]: He's an angry bird.
01:06:07.048 --> 01:06:08.048
[UNKNOWN]: She's an angry bird.
01:06:08.389 --> 01:06:11.550
[UNKNOWN]: And if she was in a W, she would be a part of the brawling birds.
01:06:13.432 --> 01:06:15.693
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, well, hey, they have trios titles, right?
01:06:15.713 --> 01:06:16.433
[UNKNOWN]: So there you go.
01:06:16.493 --> 01:06:18.775
[UNKNOWN]: At least for the men they do so they could, they could always go after them.
01:06:18.795 --> 01:06:20.616
[UNKNOWN]: Do they have to, who the trio champions?
01:06:20.896 --> 01:06:22.477
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, the, uh, conglomeration, right?
01:06:22.697 --> 01:06:23.597
[UNKNOWN]: The conglomeration.
01:06:23.798 --> 01:06:24.058
[UNKNOWN]: No.
01:06:25.098 --> 01:06:26.139
[UNKNOWN]: I'm surprised I realized.
01:06:26.159 --> 01:06:27.620
[UNKNOWN]: I should probably remember that honestly.
01:06:29.042 --> 01:06:30.163
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, and then we had Chad Gable.
01:06:30.683 --> 01:06:37.006
[UNKNOWN]: We had Chad Gable tried to apologize to Alpha Academy, but Maxine did not want Chad Gable's apology.
01:06:37.606 --> 01:06:39.387
[UNKNOWN]: A carer just went along with Maxine.
01:06:39.467 --> 01:06:42.868
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, it's very much wanted to accept Chad Gable's apology.
01:06:42.888 --> 01:06:43.808
[UNKNOWN]: What do you make of this, Jason?
01:06:43.828 --> 01:06:46.790
[UNKNOWN]: Because the last time we've been, I don't want to say less than less few weeks.
01:06:46.810 --> 01:06:54.113
[UNKNOWN]: We've been seeing Maxine with Austin theory or hanging out with Austin theory in the back with the vision in their limousine or their rental car.
01:06:54.953 --> 01:07:05.597
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if this is playing into where we're going with Maxine and this new attitude change from Maxine to Chad Gable, but what do you think that this is going to mean for Chad Gable going at the SummerSlam?
01:07:06.438 --> 01:07:21.764
[UNKNOWN]: Well, what it should mean is Chad Gable is going to be wrestling Penta for the Intercontinental Championship because there was a segment in the back later in the show where he was talking to Adam Pierce and I think Gable brought up Penta and then Dom came over and said, whoa, wait a minute, you're not jumping the line here.
01:07:22.612 --> 01:07:27.354
[UNKNOWN]: So that gave me hope that that's where ultimately we're going to we're going to land with this.
01:07:28.315 --> 01:07:46.044
[UNKNOWN]: But I mean, if you were to watch this, and then if you kind of put two and two together with the whole Maxine and theory thing, my first thought was, okay, are we going to end up with the vision and the alpha Academy, which had Gabriel sort of either rejoining or realigning without us in Tozawa, which I think would be fucking terrible.
01:07:47.043 --> 01:07:55.349
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, look, it's okay to have friends, but my God, please don't drag this out any longer than it has to because they're at a certain level.
01:07:56.090 --> 01:07:59.932
[UNKNOWN]: And that's the worst gable is, but gable needs to be at a level above that.
01:08:00.073 --> 01:08:05.877
[UNKNOWN]: And I just feel like the longer he sort of stuck with these people, that's not where he needs to be.
01:08:07.038 --> 01:08:12.622
[UNKNOWN]: I think people like Otis and I think they'll like it when the day comes that they finally shake hands and they hug and they'll get a big pop.
01:08:13.762 --> 01:08:19.445
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, but I can't say the idea of like vision and alpha academy necessarily appeals to me.
01:08:19.685 --> 01:08:24.847
[UNKNOWN]: I still think it's almost like, though, it's, it's, I think the direction is going to be gable and pentai.
01:08:24.887 --> 01:08:30.950
[UNKNOWN]: I think they will find their way there, because I just cannot imagine, alright, I shouldn't say that.
01:08:31.350 --> 01:08:40.534
[UNKNOWN]: I can't imagine, but I hope they don't fumble by not putting him in a, in a, in a major match on that show in his hometown.
01:08:42.212 --> 01:08:52.116
[UNKNOWN]: I would like to think that they are smart enough to understand like this is the perfect time to put him in the ring, wrestling for a championship.
01:08:52.936 --> 01:08:55.077
[UNKNOWN]: That's the championship for him to go after.
01:08:55.737 --> 01:08:57.398
[UNKNOWN]: That would be a great match to do.
01:08:57.818 --> 01:09:02.060
[UNKNOWN]: He's gonna be super over in Minneapolis, Penta super over everywhere he goes.
01:09:02.500 --> 01:09:08.522
[UNKNOWN]: It'll be a great wrestling match and what a great moment for him to win the title finally in Minneapolis.
01:09:09.545 --> 01:09:09.865
[UNKNOWN]: I agree.
01:09:10.386 --> 01:09:12.087
[UNKNOWN]: I can't disagree with any of you said can't go.
01:09:12.227 --> 01:09:15.870
[UNKNOWN]: It should not go any other way that's exactly how it needs to go down
01:09:17.190 --> 01:09:25.953
[UNKNOWN]: Well, Russell votes reported that there is a big internal push to feature Chad Gable at Summerslam in a very significant way.
01:09:26.053 --> 01:09:34.195
[UNKNOWN]: Obviously, the Minneapolis tie we all know sources indicated his hometown ties or a major factor in talks about giving him a prominent role on the card.
01:09:34.615 --> 01:09:44.198
[UNKNOWN]: Also, fueling these conversations is the way of a fan support Gable's received because of El Grande Americano and AAA, which culminated in the obvious unmasking ads.
01:09:44.658 --> 01:09:50.079
[UNKNOWN]: Not sure they'll Oscar Andes for Triple A a few weeks back where he lost that match to Ludwig Kaiser.
01:09:50.119 --> 01:09:52.660
[UNKNOWN]: Russell votes also added that many within WWE view.
01:09:52.680 --> 01:09:54.981
[UNKNOWN]: Gable as one of the companies most gifted performers.
01:09:56.641 --> 01:09:59.902
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I'm glad they realized that we've realized that for the last fucking 10 years.
01:10:00.302 --> 01:10:09.384
[UNKNOWN]: So my question to that is as we as we hear these reports, you would think that this guy was like a rookie or something and they just discovered him.
01:10:09.504 --> 01:10:11.024
[UNKNOWN]: Like he's some blue chip prospect.
01:10:11.044 --> 01:10:12.665
[UNKNOWN]: He's been there for over a fucking decade.
01:10:13.877 --> 01:10:18.839
[UNKNOWN]: So what exactly took them so long to come to this realization about Chad Gable is what I would like to know.
01:10:19.539 --> 01:10:19.900
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
01:10:19.920 --> 01:10:20.640
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
01:10:20.700 --> 01:10:21.220
[UNKNOWN]: What is it that?
01:10:21.300 --> 01:10:28.783
[UNKNOWN]: What is it that we saw in Chad Gable that he working for that company and these people who work for the company did not see previously?
01:10:29.123 --> 01:10:29.684
[UNKNOWN]: I couldn't tell you.
01:10:29.904 --> 01:10:30.604
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
01:10:30.664 --> 01:10:31.264
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe they don't.
01:10:31.364 --> 01:10:34.226
[UNKNOWN]: Everything before Shorty G. Maybe they just kind of omitted that.
01:10:34.346 --> 01:10:37.127
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe they just think what's after Shorty G. I see.
01:10:40.067 --> 01:10:54.496
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, he's the most gifted performer in the entire and they're one of the most gifted performers in the entire There's another one on the fucking company bus single the single most underappreciated under utilized talent in that company Chad Gable is this a contract here for him too?
01:10:56.037 --> 01:10:57.678
[UNKNOWN]: I've not heard anything about his contract.
01:10:57.738 --> 01:10:58.319
[UNKNOWN]: I have no idea.
01:10:59.059 --> 01:10:59.599
[UNKNOWN]: I have no idea.
01:11:00.420 --> 01:11:02.181
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know I haven't heard anything.
01:11:02.201 --> 01:11:06.664
[UNKNOWN]: I've seen no reports about his contracts that is He uh
01:11:08.028 --> 01:11:09.649
[UNKNOWN]: He needs that I see title of summer's land.
01:11:09.669 --> 01:11:10.549
[UNKNOWN]: Pants is the right way.
01:11:11.269 --> 01:11:14.091
[UNKNOWN]: And hopefully like I've been saying, I made a fucking Instagram, really.
01:11:14.111 --> 01:11:17.552
[UNKNOWN]: I want to comment, send my viral there on my Instagram page.
01:11:17.812 --> 01:11:23.374
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, it's a slam dunk Jason thinks it's, we've been saying for weeks, slam dunk, you want, you want creative.
01:11:23.454 --> 01:11:25.675
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't have to be overly complicated.
01:11:25.695 --> 01:11:34.099
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, just he take one guy, you take another guy, you put him in a title match and you make the guy who's in Minneapolis, born and raised when the match boom, done.
01:11:35.200 --> 01:11:45.730
[UNKNOWN]: I don't see what the big deal is, but Russell vote says that they believe he is the most gifted of some of the roster there and he's got big plans for midsummer slam, hopefully triple H is on that same path.
01:11:48.492 --> 01:11:54.398
[UNKNOWN]: The other news in note here before we get into some of his TNA stuff, because that's basically around the Notha WWE stuff.
01:11:55.350 --> 01:11:59.253
[UNKNOWN]: There was a SmackDown cancellation just to throw this out there for you guys.
01:11:59.313 --> 01:12:01.014
[UNKNOWN]: This was the, to me, I thought this was humorous.
01:12:01.894 --> 01:12:06.677
[UNKNOWN]: Melters said that WWE's canceling and upcoming Cincinnati SmackDown taping.
01:12:07.137 --> 01:12:10.679
[UNKNOWN]: September for SmackDown's been scheduled for the Heritage Bank Center in Cincinnati.
01:12:10.699 --> 01:12:11.980
[UNKNOWN]: That will no longer take place.
01:12:12.500 --> 01:12:18.664
[UNKNOWN]: Cancelation was surfaced by ticket master and WWE's ticketing page no longer lists the September for date.
01:12:18.764 --> 01:12:21.366
[UNKNOWN]: Melter in the Friday's Wrestling Observer Daily Update,
01:12:21.886 --> 01:12:30.769
[UNKNOWN]: said there were large logistical issues and production-related issues surrounding the show, then now logistical issues and production-related issues were in quotations.
01:12:31.450 --> 01:12:35.611
[UNKNOWN]: Importantly, there will reportedly still be an episode of Smackdown that is on September 4th.
01:12:36.031 --> 01:12:49.496
[UNKNOWN]: Meltzer noted that the episode would likely be taped either the Friday before in Cleveland, where the following Monday night raw, though he clarifies that the decision is not been finalized canceling the live-sense and 90 show also gives the talent a head of Labor Day weekend off.
01:12:52.856 --> 01:12:59.719
[UNKNOWN]: Now, one of my, one of my first go to your Jason is the fact that maybe the show wasn't selling well and that we could be canceled to show.
01:13:00.239 --> 01:13:07.642
[UNKNOWN]: They may logistically be a reason behind the whole Labor Day thing and they just wanted to give the roster off a Labor Day and then come back the next week and just resume business.
01:13:08.162 --> 01:13:14.084
[UNKNOWN]: But normally, when I hear stuff like this is like, well, they weren't selling well and that we just wanted to cancel the show altogether and move through a smaller venue.
01:13:14.999 --> 01:13:16.640
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, it wasn't just that show though.
01:13:16.660 --> 01:13:21.665
[UNKNOWN]: There was a raw that got canceled at the end of August.
01:13:21.785 --> 01:13:23.266
[UNKNOWN]: So it was more than one show.
01:13:23.506 --> 01:13:29.752
[UNKNOWN]: So once I saw that second show is canceled, I assumed there must have been some sort of logistical reason for it.
01:13:30.913 --> 01:13:33.095
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that's what happened there.
01:13:33.175 --> 01:13:39.160
[UNKNOWN]: So if you guys are in the Cincinnati area and we're planning to go see SmackDown on September 4th, no longer.
01:13:40.496 --> 01:13:45.123
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it was it was raw in Charlotte book for August 30th.
01:13:46.104 --> 01:13:47.947
[UNKNOWN]: Reschedule to February of 2027.
01:13:48.067 --> 01:13:48.227
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
01:13:48.247 --> 01:13:49.089
[UNKNOWN]: There you go.
01:13:50.370 --> 01:13:52.133
[UNKNOWN]: What they're going to replace it with, I have no idea.
01:13:53.683 --> 01:13:56.284
[UNKNOWN]: All right, so that's that that's the WWE stuff.
01:13:56.724 --> 01:13:58.245
[UNKNOWN]: There is a lot of TNA stuff.
01:13:58.265 --> 01:14:06.267
[UNKNOWN]: We'll get into some AEW stuff as well for the forbidden door show on Sunday, and we want to thank you guys for joining us here on TNT.
01:14:06.347 --> 01:14:09.769
[UNKNOWN]: It is episode 152 Super Chats are open.
01:14:09.789 --> 01:14:11.989
[UNKNOWN]: I see you guys kind of coming in with some mini bombs.
01:14:12.029 --> 01:14:13.790
[UNKNOWN]: I appreciate that Jason does as well.
01:14:14.590 --> 01:14:15.030
[UNKNOWN]: Thumbs up.
01:14:15.050 --> 01:14:15.530
[UNKNOWN]: We got 534 likes.
01:14:15.550 --> 01:14:16.791
[UNKNOWN]: Let's try for a cool modest 800.
01:14:20.252 --> 01:14:25.675
[UNKNOWN]: on this Tuesday night if you guys are in the chat just joining us thumbs up would be greatly appreciated.
01:14:26.956 --> 01:14:29.017
[UNKNOWN]: Now TNA, there's a lot of TNA news.
01:14:29.057 --> 01:14:32.519
[UNKNOWN]: Slam of verse restaking placed this weekend looks to be a decent show.
01:14:32.579 --> 01:14:35.160
[UNKNOWN]: One of the biggest weekends of their calendar year.
01:14:36.321 --> 01:14:41.644
[UNKNOWN]: And the big news this week is that and we talked about this less week here right on this show.
01:14:41.724 --> 01:14:46.686
[UNKNOWN]: Why don't they take some of that money and maybe just kind of bulk up the creative.
01:14:50.627 --> 01:15:18.197
[UNKNOWN]: there there is no money there there I'm starting I'm starting the question money yeah they're bleeding money we get into that uh... Tommy dreamer he was the man in charge of the creative team he is no longer with the company dreamer was on bus that open he is a co-host on bus that open and he had a conversation with Carlos Silva which he documented live on bus that open he revealed that he was no longer with the company after him promotion agreed to mutually
01:15:19.969 --> 01:15:40.322
[UNKNOWN]: Now, if you saw the clip that floated around on social media, Tommy Dreamer looked like he just broke up with his wife and separated and gotten to the voice, but it looks like he came home one day and the house was cleaned out and all of his shit was all like thrown out on the lawn outside and yeah, like, and then on top of that, he found his dog his dog was dead.
01:15:40.422 --> 01:15:44.745
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he was, this was, yeah, this was, this was mutual, sure.
01:15:44.805 --> 01:15:48.908
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, this is the, the, the, the really didn't sound mutual, but that was mutual.
01:15:49.868 --> 01:15:52.389
[UNKNOWN]: He said, and this happened earlier in the week.
01:15:52.529 --> 01:15:54.930
[UNKNOWN]: Yesterday, I had a great conversation with Carlos Silva.
01:15:55.490 --> 01:15:57.631
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, Tina and her longer in a relationship.
01:15:59.151 --> 01:16:01.332
[UNKNOWN]: So Dreamer said that we've mutually agreed to part ways.
01:16:01.372 --> 01:16:03.113
[UNKNOWN]: I've given so much of my life to that company.
01:16:03.153 --> 01:16:05.453
[UNKNOWN]: I don't have any ill will or malice.
01:16:05.794 --> 01:16:06.834
[UNKNOWN]: I wanted to survive.
01:16:07.354 --> 01:16:08.634
[UNKNOWN]: I wanted to be the best that can be.
01:16:08.715 --> 01:16:09.515
[UNKNOWN]: I love this business.
01:16:10.095 --> 01:16:13.776
[UNKNOWN]: It's hard because I'm not going to be able to see the people that I've helped.
01:16:14.336 --> 01:16:16.497
[UNKNOWN]: I had a lot of people help me follow my dreams.
01:16:16.537 --> 01:16:18.458
[UNKNOWN]: And I love that part about the business.
01:16:19.443 --> 01:16:20.163
[UNKNOWN]: of what I did.
01:16:20.623 --> 01:16:24.184
[UNKNOWN]: Dreamer had filled a variety of roles in TNA worked as a producer.
01:16:24.224 --> 01:16:25.865
[UNKNOWN]: He was a member of the creative team.
01:16:25.885 --> 01:16:28.325
[UNKNOWN]: He was an on screen authority figure alongside Silver.
01:16:28.926 --> 01:16:29.966
[UNKNOWN]: And he was actually a wrestler.
01:16:30.006 --> 01:16:35.547
[UNKNOWN]: And he continues, correct me if I'm on Jason, he still works in the pendant dates a couple of days out of the month, doesn't he?
01:16:35.608 --> 01:16:36.448
[UNKNOWN]: Almost every weekend.
01:16:36.828 --> 01:16:38.368
[UNKNOWN]: There you go.
01:16:38.388 --> 01:16:39.669
[UNKNOWN]: He doesn't have to, but he loves the game.
01:16:41.187 --> 01:17:02.060
[UNKNOWN]: So his creative leadership has drawn criticism over the past year and you see this more on social media, the more you kind of kind of dwell into the TNA discussions, you know, the roster never emits you got, you got guys like AJ Francis out there moves who just don't give a shit about what the fans say and the criticism of the fans towards the product they don't want to hear any of it, but this is the one growing thing that people had a problem with.
01:17:02.980 --> 01:17:15.649
[UNKNOWN]: And more importantly, it came after the January debut on AMC, which Jason, Jason, not both reviewed and just fucking regretted it, and we wish we said we wish we didn't.
01:17:16.210 --> 01:17:17.210
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we wish we didn't.
01:17:17.591 --> 01:17:19.512
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, Holy shit, that was a terrible program.
01:17:20.413 --> 01:17:26.177
[UNKNOWN]: Some of the company reportedly saw a change coming, but had expected it to land after slam a verse through rather than now.
01:17:27.351 --> 01:17:32.614
[UNKNOWN]: So I'll stop there, Jason, before we get into where they're going now with the creative Tommy Dreamer.
01:17:33.175 --> 01:17:36.016
[UNKNOWN]: He was under a lot of scrutiny, a lot of criticism from the fan base.
01:17:36.857 --> 01:17:38.958
[UNKNOWN]: Do I look at this as a good thing?
01:17:39.178 --> 01:17:41.880
[UNKNOWN]: Now, I respect Dreamer immensely.
01:17:43.381 --> 01:17:45.042
[UNKNOWN]: He's wearing a lot of different hats.
01:17:45.322 --> 01:17:46.623
[UNKNOWN]: He does a lot of different things.
01:17:46.643 --> 01:17:47.483
[UNKNOWN]: He's a wrestler.
01:17:47.503 --> 01:17:50.325
[UNKNOWN]: He's a radio host, he's TNA.
01:17:51.786 --> 01:17:53.587
[UNKNOWN]: Was he in a situation where
01:17:54.773 --> 01:18:05.089
[UNKNOWN]: his attention was being pulled in all these different ways and he couldn't give his undivided attention to TNA and that's why the product suffered or is there something a little bit more deep rooted there as the YTNA isn't where they need to be.
01:18:06.417 --> 01:18:14.566
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, TNA isn't where they need to be for, for a lot of reasons, but a creative change is probably something that is needed right now, you know?
01:18:14.666 --> 01:18:27.760
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, look, they debuted on AMC in January, there was a lot of momentum, there was a lot of hope, there was a lot of optimism, and there's less, I feel like there's less interest and attention on the product now than there was six months ago.
01:18:28.986 --> 01:18:37.632
[UNKNOWN]: Like you can't say outside of them having greater television exposure that the product is in a better place now than it was when they first debuted on AMC.
01:18:38.413 --> 01:18:48.540
[UNKNOWN]: And so if Dreamer is either the head of creative or one of the key creative figures in the company, when the axe falls, that is going to be the person who it's going to land on first.
01:18:50.206 --> 01:18:52.988
[UNKNOWN]: And this is a company that could use a shake up in that way.
01:18:53.329 --> 01:18:54.410
[UNKNOWN]: He was the head of creative.
01:18:55.470 --> 01:18:58.153
[UNKNOWN]: Look, I look at someone like Dreamer, I don't know.
01:18:58.653 --> 01:19:09.162
[UNKNOWN]: It's hard to tell sometimes what ideas came from who, you know, when it comes to any wrestling television show, I don't look at Dreamer as some kind of great creative figure head.
01:19:09.182 --> 01:19:11.183
[UNKNOWN]: I can't say he's the worst at it.
01:19:11.283 --> 01:19:12.585
[UNKNOWN]: I can't say he's the best at it.
01:19:13.300 --> 01:19:17.423
[UNKNOWN]: But what I can tell you is that whatever TNA is doing right now, it's not like in the world on fire.
01:19:17.463 --> 01:19:20.065
[UNKNOWN]: So yes, I think a creative change was needed.
01:19:21.326 --> 01:19:24.007
[UNKNOWN]: I also was very weird to me, like, and I mentioned this.
01:19:25.088 --> 01:19:36.336
[UNKNOWN]: Anytime that they signs somebody new, they always have this segment on their show, where the person, and they did this with Fabian Eichner recently, and they did it with Ricky so some, many months ago.
01:19:37.417 --> 01:19:41.920
[UNKNOWN]: Carlos Silva's out there, the new talent is out there, and Tommy Dreamers out there.
01:19:42.983 --> 01:19:52.127
[UNKNOWN]: And every time I see Dreamer on this show, he looks so bored and just generally disinterested in what's going on.
01:19:52.527 --> 01:19:55.709
[UNKNOWN]: I did, I did see this icon of clip.
01:19:56.249 --> 01:19:57.330
[UNKNOWN]: I'm always fascinated.
01:19:57.370 --> 01:19:58.770
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, I'm looking at Dreamer.
01:19:59.051 --> 01:20:03.893
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just focused on him and he looks like he would rather be anywhere but where he is in that moment.
01:20:04.433 --> 01:20:07.574
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, there was literally no facial expressions whatsoever.
01:20:07.594 --> 01:20:09.014
[UNKNOWN]: He kept that same facial expression.
01:20:09.034 --> 01:20:11.755
[UNKNOWN]: Because it looked like he was dead inside.
01:20:11.875 --> 01:20:14.095
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm like, why do you keep putting him out there?
01:20:14.155 --> 01:20:16.036
[UNKNOWN]: Like it's depressing.
01:20:16.176 --> 01:20:18.036
[UNKNOWN]: It's depressing to watch him in those segments.
01:20:19.216 --> 01:20:20.096
[UNKNOWN]: So I just had to mention that.
01:20:20.136 --> 01:20:26.718
[UNKNOWN]: So yes, I think that if you're going to make changes within TNA, a creative change was probably needed.
01:20:27.780 --> 01:20:52.007
[UNKNOWN]: uh... shit should delirious still be in the position he's in or should you get rid of him too i don't know but you know dreamer getting the boot in a creative capacity probably a good move for t and a now are they gonna level up by replacing him with road dog because it sure looks like road dog is probably going to get that job it's not official yet uh... but pw insider is saying he'll be there in Boston uh... at the paper view on sunday
01:20:52.807 --> 01:20:58.351
[UNKNOWN]: So it seems pretty likely that he'll either be the head of creative or he's going to end up probably assisting in a creative capacity.
01:20:59.632 --> 01:21:02.174
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know whether that's a good thing or bad thing.
01:21:02.255 --> 01:21:11.202
[UNKNOWN]: I know that he was associated with SmackDown SmackDown has been generally terrible all year, but he's been gone from SmackDown now for many months and SmackDown hasn't exactly improved.
01:21:12.193 --> 01:21:13.915
[UNKNOWN]: So we'll have to just wait and see.
01:21:14.455 --> 01:21:17.037
[UNKNOWN]: But their problems go far beyond just creative.
01:21:17.077 --> 01:21:18.698
[UNKNOWN]: Creative is just one aspect of it.
01:21:19.419 --> 01:21:23.923
[UNKNOWN]: There's a larger problem, which is their inability to retain certain talents.
01:21:24.804 --> 01:21:27.706
[UNKNOWN]: And with this big TV deal, they signed in January.
01:21:27.746 --> 01:21:28.286
[UNKNOWN]: You would think,
01:21:28.987 --> 01:21:36.992
[UNKNOWN]: between that and the partnership with WWE and the fact that like in a W, if you work in TNA, you can also still work in these.
01:21:37.692 --> 01:21:40.274
[UNKNOWN]: A lot of wrestlers still like to book, you know, indie shots.
01:21:40.734 --> 01:21:41.915
[UNKNOWN]: Can't do that in WWE.
01:21:43.136 --> 01:21:47.119
[UNKNOWN]: You would think with all these reasons like TNA would be a desirable landing spot.
01:21:47.699 --> 01:21:51.182
[UNKNOWN]: And yet there's a lot of people who have voluntarily said, peace out.
01:21:51.462 --> 01:21:52.303
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to be here anymore.
01:21:53.203 --> 01:21:56.666
[UNKNOWN]: To me, that's the bigger issue, because how are you supposed to build for the future?
01:21:57.687 --> 01:21:58.928
[UNKNOWN]: And invest in the future.
01:21:59.988 --> 01:22:07.414
[UNKNOWN]: If they sign these people, I mentioned the Ickner thing, dude, like supposedly he signed through the summer.
01:22:09.318 --> 01:22:13.321
[UNKNOWN]: Some are going to be over in two and a half months with what fucking money they're going to pay him to keep him any longer.
01:22:13.601 --> 01:22:15.882
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that's the issue more than creative.
01:22:16.523 --> 01:22:21.446
[UNKNOWN]: They don't seem to let me show a hundred thousand dollars to retain our to retain our services with 12 months.
01:22:21.946 --> 01:22:23.707
[UNKNOWN]: Where's it coming from?
01:22:23.767 --> 01:22:25.889
[UNKNOWN]: All these guys are signing these short-term deals.
01:22:26.669 --> 01:22:28.971
[UNKNOWN]: And it's like, you got a Ricky Sosa on the roster.
01:22:29.011 --> 01:22:33.994
[UNKNOWN]: I use him as an example because he's somebody like a young guy that you can build around his part of your core.
01:22:34.795 --> 01:22:36.396
[UNKNOWN]: And for their sake, I hope they can.
01:22:36.416 --> 01:22:51.406
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what his contract status is, but all I know is that if like a Ricky Sosa is not signed to a long-term deal, and frankly, even if he is, if WWE is like, hey, we want this guy, and you and I saw him on Friday.
01:22:51.786 --> 01:23:01.557
[UNKNOWN]: I was going to mention that lit legitimately, I mean, I don't with the catch-up on TNA as much as the next guy does, but I saw him for the first time in person, six for four you mentioned.
01:23:01.817 --> 01:23:06.262
[UNKNOWN]: W-W-E is going to have fucking drool coming down to their mouth when they see this kid perform.
01:23:06.302 --> 01:23:07.964
[UNKNOWN]: It would be salivating, really.
01:23:09.265 --> 01:23:11.687
[UNKNOWN]: And so it almost doesn't even matter if they want them.
01:23:11.707 --> 01:23:12.488
[UNKNOWN]: They're going to get them.
01:23:12.768 --> 01:23:15.210
[UNKNOWN]: How do you how do you build a roster then?
01:23:16.190 --> 01:23:33.664
[UNKNOWN]: When people are our checking out so quickly after they check it like that's the that to me is the biggest issue when it comes to TNA and trying to build some sort of nucleus when it comes to that roster because They don't have a bad roster like if you look at the roster of people that they have left
01:23:34.598 --> 01:23:38.284
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's a nice mix of veteran talents and younger talents.
01:23:38.564 --> 01:23:41.128
[UNKNOWN]: So you got the hearties and you and I know, like they're still a draw.
01:23:41.449 --> 01:23:46.577
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's not hard to see why TNA still has them, you know, and they rely on them so much.
01:23:47.367 --> 01:23:48.107
[UNKNOWN]: You got the hardies.
01:23:48.228 --> 01:23:49.188
[UNKNOWN]: You got Ali.
01:23:49.368 --> 01:23:50.349
[UNKNOWN]: You got Nick Nebeth.
01:23:50.569 --> 01:23:50.789
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
01:23:50.809 --> 01:23:51.890
[UNKNOWN]: You got a bunch of those guys.
01:23:52.650 --> 01:23:53.971
[UNKNOWN]: But then you have a Ricky Sosa.
01:23:54.291 --> 01:23:56.733
[UNKNOWN]: You have a Leon Slater for how much longer who knows.
01:23:56.753 --> 01:23:57.833
[UNKNOWN]: But you got a Leon Slater.
01:23:57.853 --> 01:23:59.294
[UNKNOWN]: You got a Casey Navarro.
01:23:59.334 --> 01:24:01.336
[UNKNOWN]: Like I like their roster.
01:24:01.976 --> 01:24:05.558
[UNKNOWN]: The bigger issue is how are you going to retain these people in the long term.
01:24:05.578 --> 01:24:09.401
[UNKNOWN]: If you can't pay them, then there's no incentive for them to stick around.
01:24:10.021 --> 01:24:11.302
[UNKNOWN]: That to me is the bigger issue.
01:24:11.950 --> 01:24:27.303
[UNKNOWN]: You know, you hear a lot of these problems with the creative side of things and I'm not talking about like the money side, everybody, you could not pull a bad thing out of anybody on that roster or anything about Scott to more when he worked there.
01:24:27.463 --> 01:24:28.424
[UNKNOWN]: He was the head of creative.
01:24:28.464 --> 01:24:29.925
[UNKNOWN]: He was the visionary for TNA.
01:24:29.985 --> 01:24:31.546
[UNKNOWN]: He was a big-ish cheerleader.
01:24:31.767 --> 01:24:34.569
[UNKNOWN]: He even at one point wanted to buy the company and run the company.
01:24:34.589 --> 01:24:37.852
[UNKNOWN]: He wanted to be Mr. TNA that they did not sell to him.
01:24:38.392 --> 01:24:43.073
[UNKNOWN]: You never heard anything about Scott Demore's inclusion in TNA was always like the most positive thing.
01:24:43.514 --> 01:24:50.216
[UNKNOWN]: Now all you hear is about Carlos Silva and how much of a detriment to you is and the money issues and the creative issues.
01:24:50.236 --> 01:24:53.297
[UNKNOWN]: And it's all these other things just lining up one after another.
01:24:53.557 --> 01:24:55.777
[UNKNOWN]: And then nobody wants to take accountability for it.
01:24:55.797 --> 01:24:56.998
[UNKNOWN]: Nobody wants to take the blame for it.
01:24:57.238 --> 01:25:00.279
[UNKNOWN]: Well, you didn't hear any of this stuff about Scott Demore when you ran the company.
01:25:00.299 --> 01:25:03.560
[UNKNOWN]: But now all we hear about is how the people are mismanaging the company now.
01:25:08.623 --> 01:25:10.584
[UNKNOWN]: So Tommy Dreamer is out.
01:25:10.844 --> 01:25:12.125
[UNKNOWN]: Jason mentioned road dog.
01:25:12.145 --> 01:25:13.266
[UNKNOWN]: This was a big discussion.
01:25:13.326 --> 01:25:15.747
[UNKNOWN]: Fightful select mentioned road dog.
01:25:15.767 --> 01:25:18.169
[UNKNOWN]: He's been discussed internally about a potential replacement.
01:25:18.749 --> 01:25:21.851
[UNKNOWN]: We all, we all kind of, and again, Jason alluded to it.
01:25:21.871 --> 01:25:23.772
[UNKNOWN]: He was a part of the SmackDown riding team.
01:25:24.093 --> 01:25:29.956
[UNKNOWN]: At one point, he was head co-rider with Ryan Ward on SmackDown, back in the glory days of SmackDown in 2016.
01:25:30.376 --> 01:25:35.319
[UNKNOWN]: How much of his inclusion was really kind of taking SmackDown to that level?
01:25:35.360 --> 01:25:35.740
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
01:25:36.240 --> 01:25:37.461
[UNKNOWN]: But he was certainly on the team.
01:25:37.581 --> 01:25:41.142
[UNKNOWN]: We saw him on Unreal and we saw how much of a geeky look like.
01:25:41.883 --> 01:25:44.504
[UNKNOWN]: How many of his ideas came to the table and how many were used?
01:25:44.564 --> 01:25:46.645
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, but he did cite that.
01:25:46.805 --> 01:25:50.587
[UNKNOWN]: It was more of a business than a pro wrestling company and it wasn't fun anymore.
01:25:51.877 --> 01:26:05.245
[UNKNOWN]: Do you think that this is a game changing decision Jason to bring roaddog and I don't know if he's going to leave the lyrics is there like sure he's someone with knowledge sure he he's worked under the Vince McMahon learning tree he knows that old school mentality.
01:26:05.785 --> 01:26:15.851
[UNKNOWN]: But I heard you talked about it and I'm listening to you in the car on my way to do errands today and you said one thing that really just popped out at me and I'm like why the fuck has anybody else said this?
01:26:16.611 --> 01:26:24.095
[UNKNOWN]: And you said verbatim, why does everybody all of a sudden want a fucking lead role in creative?
01:26:24.135 --> 01:26:25.756
[UNKNOWN]: Is there no one else to do these jobs?
01:26:26.416 --> 01:26:29.978
[UNKNOWN]: And I said, yes, why hasn't anybody else acts this question?
01:26:30.218 --> 01:26:31.658
[UNKNOWN]: Why are we going to the road dogs?
01:26:31.678 --> 01:26:34.100
[UNKNOWN]: Why are we going to the same old fucking people?
01:26:34.960 --> 01:26:37.763
[UNKNOWN]: And you mentioned, this is why the show are so boring.
01:26:38.343 --> 01:26:40.004
[UNKNOWN]: Nobody has any fresh ideas.
01:26:40.485 --> 01:26:42.186
[UNKNOWN]: So they're leaning on road dog.
01:26:42.246 --> 01:26:42.647
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
01:26:42.667 --> 01:26:48.672
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to speak ill will about road dog and hopefully he lands a job, but I don't expect anything from that TNA fan base.
01:26:50.548 --> 01:26:53.249
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, until they're in that position, it's impossible to know.
01:26:53.389 --> 01:26:59.671
[UNKNOWN]: And also then how much power he has, if you have a team, there's other people, there's other voices in there that you mentioned.
01:26:59.691 --> 01:27:00.872
[UNKNOWN]: Delirious is still there.
01:27:01.872 --> 01:27:05.733
[UNKNOWN]: I think their vice president of TV production is for now anyway.
01:27:06.374 --> 01:27:09.475
[UNKNOWN]: He and Delirious are the top two people when it comes to creative.
01:27:10.315 --> 01:27:11.075
[UNKNOWN]: You just don't know.
01:27:11.896 --> 01:27:14.697
[UNKNOWN]: We've also heard, AJ Styles said this many years ago.
01:27:15.097 --> 01:27:18.498
[UNKNOWN]: When Road Dog was, I think, the lead rider on SmackDown.
01:27:19.467 --> 01:27:34.090
[UNKNOWN]: And I think he got burned out and he quit if I remember, but AJ came out and defended it and said, if only you guys knew like it was Vince McMahon, it was his ideas and he was you know, stifling road dogs ideas and preventing them from reaching TV and
01:27:34.771 --> 01:27:46.640
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, OK, well, if he goes to TNA and they give him the keys to the castle, then I guess we'll find out if we get road dog unfiltered, then we'll get a better sense of what kind of creative mind he really has.
01:27:47.201 --> 01:27:47.341
[UNKNOWN]: Right?
01:27:47.361 --> 01:27:49.663
[UNKNOWN]: If he gets the job, we'll find out it won't take very long.
01:27:50.283 --> 01:27:53.766
[UNKNOWN]: All their television is taped between, you know, now in Sunday.
01:27:53.806 --> 01:27:56.788
[UNKNOWN]: And so coming at a slam of nursery, it's kind of the dawning of a new era.
01:27:57.989 --> 01:28:05.576
[UNKNOWN]: and we'll see if Rodog A gets the job and B if he does, what he does, right, with the pieces that are presented to him.
01:28:06.177 --> 01:28:12.603
[UNKNOWN]: But the point that I was making is like, it's always the same five or six names that you hear about when it comes to creative and wrestling.
01:28:13.508 --> 01:28:14.429
[UNKNOWN]: And so why is that?
01:28:14.889 --> 01:28:15.570
[UNKNOWN]: Why is it always?
01:28:15.630 --> 01:28:19.053
[UNKNOWN]: Why are we always recycling the same names over and over again?
01:28:19.534 --> 01:28:20.434
[UNKNOWN]: Who are those other names?
01:28:20.635 --> 01:28:21.335
[UNKNOWN]: Road dog, right?
01:28:21.736 --> 01:28:22.797
[UNKNOWN]: Um, and some of them were good.
01:28:22.817 --> 01:28:23.898
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, like Scott to more.
01:28:23.918 --> 01:28:24.058
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:28:24.218 --> 01:28:27.781
[UNKNOWN]: Road dog, Paul Novakov, he's Lee Tony Con, Michael.
01:28:27.821 --> 01:28:29.283
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, Bruce pressure to what?
01:28:30.063 --> 01:28:32.185
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, I think we've want to throw Paul Hamon in there.
01:28:32.205 --> 01:28:33.286
[UNKNOWN]: Dreamer.
01:28:35.780 --> 01:28:40.583
[UNKNOWN]: basically it right but it's the same like half a dozen or so give or take people.
01:28:41.644 --> 01:28:48.208
[UNKNOWN]: And I think that there's a reason why so many of these shows just have a sameness to them.
01:28:49.369 --> 01:28:53.051
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, is there no it like I understand it's not an easy job.
01:28:54.012 --> 01:28:55.733
[UNKNOWN]: I get that and it's year round.
01:28:55.753 --> 01:28:56.754
[UNKNOWN]: There's no break.
01:28:57.494 --> 01:29:01.417
[UNKNOWN]: You let you lay out the best plans in the world people get hurt.
01:29:02.017 --> 01:29:03.298
[UNKNOWN]: Visa issues.
01:29:03.538 --> 01:29:04.059
[UNKNOWN]: Whatever
01:29:05.562 --> 01:29:12.182
[UNKNOWN]: But you cannot tell me that it's such a tough job that there are no other people that might have an interest.
01:29:13.202 --> 01:29:26.793
[UNKNOWN]: anywhere in the world, anywhere in the realm of entertainment that, you know, could not potentially be brought in for a position like that, who maybe could offer some fresh ideas that the same six or seven people can't.
01:29:26.993 --> 01:29:27.513
[UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean?
01:29:27.553 --> 01:29:31.216
[UNKNOWN]: Like at some point, you got to get some new voices in the room.
01:29:31.637 --> 01:29:33.698
[UNKNOWN]: And the people that we're talking about are going to age out.
01:29:33.718 --> 01:29:36.360
[UNKNOWN]: They ain't going to be around anymore in 10 or 15 years.
01:29:36.380 --> 01:29:37.201
[UNKNOWN]: What are they going to do then?
01:29:37.641 --> 01:29:41.564
[UNKNOWN]: Is Mark Shapiro and TKO going to be running creative for WWE?
01:29:42.345 --> 01:30:02.182
[UNKNOWN]: that's a horrifying thought like what do we what are we looking according to some geeks he's already running creative so we don't know well sometimes yeah sure whatever they feel like dipping their their hands in the pie but like I don't know what that looks like in the future if you don't now like today start to bring in some new voices some new faces and
01:30:03.043 --> 01:30:04.443
[UNKNOWN]: maybe they have an aptitude for it.
01:30:04.923 --> 01:30:15.466
[UNKNOWN]: It's a little scary to think about, you know, potentially bringing non-resling people in who don't really get wrestling because it could be a fucking disaster, but I just find it hard to believe that there aren't other people out there.
01:30:15.766 --> 01:30:25.488
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe even within the wrestling business, we just don't know who they are yet, maybe they're on a lower level, who would not have something fresh and fun to offer instead of the same fucking people over and over again.
01:30:25.508 --> 01:30:27.049
[UNKNOWN]: We're talking about Tommy Dreamer and it's like,
01:30:27.929 --> 01:30:37.636
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what a Tommy Dreamer just as an example like what was so great about the booking philosophy of Tommy Dreamer that TNA had to, you know, lean on him as their head of creative for so long.
01:30:37.696 --> 01:30:39.838
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I ended up in that position in the first place.
01:30:39.998 --> 01:30:40.718
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
01:30:40.898 --> 01:30:41.999
[UNKNOWN]: I have to do more left though.
01:30:42.019 --> 01:30:44.241
[UNKNOWN]: All I know is that his name was just thrown into the mix.
01:30:44.341 --> 01:30:47.463
[UNKNOWN]: Like, I don't know how he got that spot or why they chose him for that spot.
01:30:47.483 --> 01:30:50.205
[UNKNOWN]: I was going to ask you, you know, what is TNA done?
01:30:50.225 --> 01:30:51.126
[UNKNOWN]: Because I don't watch the show.
01:30:51.146 --> 01:30:52.066
[UNKNOWN]: I don't watch the product.
01:30:52.106 --> 01:30:55.389
[UNKNOWN]: I get enough fucking boredom from what we're watching on Monday, Wednesday, Friday.
01:30:56.454 --> 01:30:57.735
[UNKNOWN]: What does TNA do?
01:30:58.595 --> 01:31:04.217
[UNKNOWN]: And they're not bound by shareholders and Wall Street and a fucking major company.
01:31:04.297 --> 01:31:10.620
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I think the people that own TNA, they let them do whatever they need to do to create the best television possible.
01:31:10.980 --> 01:31:14.162
[UNKNOWN]: What is stopping TNA from truly being
01:31:15.002 --> 01:31:24.425
[UNKNOWN]: their own entity, like I don't get any sense that TNA, when I hear about what TNA is doing, or I tune in for a paper view, which I'll tune into Slamba first for this coming weekend, just to see the amazing red.
01:31:25.026 --> 01:31:28.327
[UNKNOWN]: What are they doing that is differentiating themselves from an AEW or WWE?
01:31:28.527 --> 01:31:33.989
[UNKNOWN]: You would think that they're creating this groundbreaking television on a new TV network to get new fans and new interests in the product.
01:31:34.009 --> 01:31:34.489
[UNKNOWN]: What are they doing?
01:31:35.594 --> 01:31:37.035
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, they're not doing anything.
01:31:37.676 --> 01:31:38.557
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's the problem.
01:31:38.577 --> 01:31:43.903
[UNKNOWN]: They're kind of stuck in the middle where yeah, WWE, they have their form of sports entertainment.
01:31:43.943 --> 01:31:47.286
[UNKNOWN]: And they're not always very good at it, but it's kind of what they do.
01:31:48.107 --> 01:31:50.730
[UNKNOWN]: AW was known for giving you a lot of wrestling.
01:31:51.110 --> 01:31:53.372
[UNKNOWN]: You get a lot of great wrestling matches in AW.
01:31:53.733 --> 01:31:55.134
[UNKNOWN]: They overload you with wrestling.
01:31:56.055 --> 01:31:58.337
[UNKNOWN]: And then, so then, TNA is kind of in the middle, where it's like,
01:31:59.235 --> 01:32:05.139
[UNKNOWN]: if they try to lean too heavily into the sports entertainment stuff then their branded WWE light, right?
01:32:05.159 --> 01:32:07.261
[UNKNOWN]: Cause they're not going to be able to do it as well as they do.
01:32:08.682 --> 01:32:20.110
[UNKNOWN]: But at the same time, like you can have like really good wrestling matches, but you're not going to get like the kind of great wrestling that you could get with a W, they have a much bigger roster and there's just so much of it.
01:32:21.071 --> 01:32:24.774
[UNKNOWN]: So it's tough, kind of the position they're in.
01:32:25.554 --> 01:32:26.475
[UNKNOWN]: How do you stand out?
01:32:27.477 --> 01:32:29.637
[UNKNOWN]: What is it that they can, they have no brand identity.
01:32:29.677 --> 01:32:30.398
[UNKNOWN]: That's the problem.
01:32:31.418 --> 01:32:45.300
[UNKNOWN]: What is it that they can do to really differentiate themselves from everybody else, the other big players that maybe they are in doing or they are in doing well and T&A could be like, okay, we can kind of fill that void like in terms of like fan service.
01:32:45.320 --> 01:32:47.021
[UNKNOWN]: Like WWE's not doing this.
01:32:47.301 --> 01:32:48.721
[UNKNOWN]: A, W, maybe isn't doing that.
01:32:49.501 --> 01:32:50.141
[UNKNOWN]: We can do that.
01:32:50.381 --> 01:32:51.802
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, I don't know what that looks like.
01:32:51.842 --> 01:32:52.922
[UNKNOWN]: That's something that they should have
01:32:54.008 --> 01:33:06.158
[UNKNOWN]: try to figure out in advance of or at the beginning of the SAMC deal and they just have been able to do that, you know, if they were, then they probably would be able to bring in more people.
01:33:06.238 --> 01:33:10.021
[UNKNOWN]: I don't get the sense they've grown their audience since going to AMC.
01:33:10.641 --> 01:33:12.022
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not just talking in terms of the rate.
01:33:12.062 --> 01:33:13.803
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, the ratings go up, the ratings go down.
01:33:13.823 --> 01:33:16.586
[UNKNOWN]: Does it feel like they've grown their fan base?
01:33:16.606 --> 01:33:18.827
[UNKNOWN]: Have they grown their audience in the last six months?
01:33:19.088 --> 01:33:19.248
[UNKNOWN]: No.
01:33:19.911 --> 01:33:25.494
[UNKNOWN]: No, I mean, what were they getting on on anthem what 80 to 90,000 per week on access TV.
01:33:25.654 --> 01:33:33.997
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, actually, publicly, they weren't even releasing numbers, but I mean, the belief is maybe maybe it was in that 90,000, 100,000 range.
01:33:34.217 --> 01:33:35.678
[UNKNOWN]: If that's on a good week for 100,000.
01:33:35.838 --> 01:33:39.600
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and so yeah, on an AMC, like at one point, they were.
01:33:41.324 --> 01:33:53.473
[UNKNOWN]: despite that awful debut show, I mean, the numbers did creep up from there and maybe they got into like the 240 range and I think lately, I don't know if it's like, it's like 180 or 190 now.
01:33:53.613 --> 01:33:54.713
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they dropped.
01:33:54.774 --> 01:33:57.035
[UNKNOWN]: So it's back into like the 180 190 range.
01:33:57.836 --> 01:34:04.740
[UNKNOWN]: So there's no, there's no sense and even in terms of like ticket sales and stuff, there's no sense that they've really grown their audience.
01:34:05.521 --> 01:34:18.475
[UNKNOWN]: It's like they're relying on the partnership with WWE to bring in names from NXT, maybe to kind of juice up ticket sales for some of these shows, but, you know, at some point, you got to do something to really stand out on your own.
01:34:19.302 --> 01:34:33.547
[UNKNOWN]: You know, you can't just rely on bringing talent in Vermenix T. So that's the challenge for, whether it's road dog or whoever ends up in a creative position, they just have to figure out who do you want to build this show around?
01:34:34.507 --> 01:34:37.068
[UNKNOWN]: Who are the key stars outside of let's say the hearty?
01:34:37.088 --> 01:34:40.109
[UNKNOWN]: It's like who are those key people that you want to build around?
01:34:40.950 --> 01:34:42.850
[UNKNOWN]: And then what does that show look like week to week?
01:34:43.050 --> 01:34:44.031
[UNKNOWN]: How do you make the show fun?
01:34:44.884 --> 01:34:49.811
[UNKNOWN]: You had to find the right balance between skits and wrestling and whatever other hijinks.
01:34:50.271 --> 01:34:54.998
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe it's this added emphasis on the exhibition the exhibition years ago is their calling card.
01:34:55.579 --> 01:34:57.321
[UNKNOWN]: Like that was truly innovative stuff.
01:34:58.225 --> 01:35:00.747
[UNKNOWN]: And the problem is now, but that was 20 years ago, right?
01:35:00.807 --> 01:35:03.529
[UNKNOWN]: Now, it's like kind of wrestling you saw on the exhibition.
01:35:03.549 --> 01:35:05.510
[UNKNOWN]: You could see any given week on dynamite.
01:35:06.831 --> 01:35:13.516
[UNKNOWN]: So I mean, I still think they should lean into the exhibition stuff, but they just got to figure it out.
01:35:13.576 --> 01:35:16.378
[UNKNOWN]: Like I don't get the sense there's a whole lot going on in the knockouts division.
01:35:16.739 --> 01:35:16.899
[UNKNOWN]: No.
01:35:16.999 --> 01:35:18.900
[UNKNOWN]: And that was, there's another example.
01:35:19.501 --> 01:35:21.082
[UNKNOWN]: Years ago, the knockouts division.
01:35:21.840 --> 01:35:25.181
[UNKNOWN]: was head and shoulders above anything WWE was doing.
01:35:26.021 --> 01:35:31.083
[UNKNOWN]: Like TNA was actually starting to take women's wrestling seriously along before WWE was.
01:35:32.003 --> 01:35:37.925
[UNKNOWN]: So for a period of time, like they had something that was unique to them that the big guys weren't doing.
01:35:38.817 --> 01:35:43.420
[UNKNOWN]: But now so many years have gone by, do they have anything like that to really make themselves stand out?
01:35:43.880 --> 01:35:44.541
[UNKNOWN]: I think not really.
01:35:44.601 --> 01:35:59.191
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, as a non-viewer of TNA, the one thing that I always knew was that they had that knock-out division that was basically their backbone, Deon Parazotai, Valkyrie Tessa, Blanchard, and whoever else was there, that the Mickey James was there, you know, years earlier, who was there?
01:35:59.431 --> 01:36:00.311
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, who's there now?
01:36:00.732 --> 01:36:01.212
[UNKNOWN]: Core Jade?
01:36:02.664 --> 01:36:17.437
[UNKNOWN]: Elena Black is there right she's she's there but she's she yeah well yeah I mean she she probably sounded short term deal yeah I that's that's all I know I mean yielding ye we're I'm sorry leave I always say wrong
01:36:17.797 --> 01:36:19.999
[UNKNOWN]: Ziya Lane, let's just lay, yay.
01:36:22.781 --> 01:36:25.764
[UNKNOWN]: There you go, it's a tongue twist, I know, I know.
01:36:27.065 --> 01:36:29.807
[UNKNOWN]: But she's the champion right now and she's fine.
01:36:29.867 --> 01:36:42.998
[UNKNOWN]: But like, no, there's nothing, there's nothing at the moment in that division that really is making its stand out of what you would see in A, W, or W, W, so no.
01:36:43.358 --> 01:36:44.559
[UNKNOWN]: And they've lost some names as well,
01:36:47.257 --> 01:36:47.397
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:36:47.417 --> 01:36:49.098
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, to me, so that's the issue.
01:36:49.499 --> 01:36:50.159
[UNKNOWN]: That's the issue.
01:36:50.199 --> 01:37:00.006
[UNKNOWN]: It comes down to, you got to be able to pay people so they stop fleeing number one, because they've resigned people like they, they resign, train Miguel this week.
01:37:00.626 --> 01:37:04.349
[UNKNOWN]: Ali Tasha steals in January.
01:37:04.369 --> 01:37:07.211
[UNKNOWN]: They had resigned most of a Ali who I think is somebody.
01:37:07.651 --> 01:37:10.053
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they could have as their world champion at some point.
01:37:11.197 --> 01:37:18.601
[UNKNOWN]: but you got to stop these other people from leaving and you've got to figure out a way to just keep them.
01:37:18.621 --> 01:37:23.964
[UNKNOWN]: You got to fucking pay them and then creatively just figure out who do you want running the show?
01:37:24.944 --> 01:37:26.145
[UNKNOWN]: And what does that show look like?
01:37:26.465 --> 01:37:26.945
[UNKNOWN]: What is there?
01:37:27.045 --> 01:37:29.867
[UNKNOWN]: What is their vision of what TNA could be?
01:37:31.403 --> 01:37:35.284
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I don't know what, um, they are going to do going into slim adversary.
01:37:35.304 --> 01:37:37.805
[UNKNOWN]: They just got about 2,000 tickets out the door last year.
01:37:37.825 --> 01:37:43.667
[UNKNOWN]: They, they held a show in New York, uh, on Long Island at the UBS Arena.
01:37:43.687 --> 01:37:47.949
[UNKNOWN]: And they did, uh, in the vicinity of, uh, 65 to 7,000 people in that venue.
01:37:48.269 --> 01:37:53.131
[UNKNOWN]: That was obviously with a big AJ Styles appearance in some WWE appearances on the show.
01:37:53.171 --> 01:37:54.331
[UNKNOWN]: As you're on Evans with on the show.
01:37:54.371 --> 01:37:54.971
[UNKNOWN]: J.C. James.
01:37:55.011 --> 01:37:55.291
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:37:55.331 --> 01:37:56.632
[UNKNOWN]: J.C. James, I believe, was there.
01:37:57.312 --> 01:37:58.615
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean it's not it's not good.
01:37:58.635 --> 01:38:01.320
[UNKNOWN]: I mean they had barely 2,000 tickets in a building.
01:38:01.340 --> 01:38:02.362
[UNKNOWN]: I think that fits 6,000 yeah.
01:38:03.905 --> 01:38:04.385
[UNKNOWN]: It's not good.
01:38:04.685 --> 01:38:07.926
[UNKNOWN]: And then the show's following slam adversary.
01:38:08.446 --> 01:38:19.409
[UNKNOWN]: They don't have a lot of tickets out because they're doing a taping in Albany and they got barely 400 tickets out the door for those two separate TV tapings at the beginning of July.
01:38:19.969 --> 01:38:28.872
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know what they're doing but Dreamers replaced and road dog right now is his rumored replacement on the TNA riding team.
01:38:29.352 --> 01:38:36.718
[UNKNOWN]: Tommy Dreamer being that he left obviously with that comes some baggage because everybody wanted to come out of the woodwork and cancel Tommy Dreamer for the week.
01:38:37.239 --> 01:38:46.286
[UNKNOWN]: It all started when Dan Perch and independent wrestling referee once told or was told by Dreamer that he tried to blackball him from the industry.
01:38:46.726 --> 01:38:56.970
[UNKNOWN]: Now, Dreamer pulled him aside apparently in a quote that he put on Twitter at a TNA show telling him that he would do everything he can to make sure that he doesn't earn a job in the wrestling business.
01:38:57.430 --> 01:39:04.233
[UNKNOWN]: Pertz said all I did was try to learn and grow from experiences, though his words were very discouraging for a young student to hear.
01:39:04.273 --> 01:39:12.376
[UNKNOWN]: Now, there were other people that came out in defensive Dan Perch and Alberto Loredale from GCW came out and said that he's one of the most approachable nice guys that you could ever meet.
01:39:13.096 --> 01:39:20.798
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, there was another one from Danny Jordan, who said that dreamer insisted on doing a crotch grab spot during a match they had together.
01:39:21.259 --> 01:39:22.359
[UNKNOWN]: He didn't care to ask.
01:39:22.499 --> 01:39:27.460
[UNKNOWN]: I did not want to do this, said how uncomfortable I was, but I'm just a woman, right?
01:39:27.961 --> 01:39:38.664
[UNKNOWN]: And then Carly Bravo from a W also said that dreamer once told him that he was very talented but he couldn't hire him because, and I quote, he didn't know if he could market a cocky black guy to the world.
01:39:40.583 --> 01:39:43.948
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, uh, I mean, I mean, that'll never work.
01:39:44.549 --> 01:39:52.481
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, Jesus says, you go back in the adils of time and find, uh, many guys like that, but I mean,
01:39:53.638 --> 01:39:57.761
[UNKNOWN]: listen, Tommy Dreamers gone and hopefully they get better.
01:39:57.841 --> 01:40:01.243
[UNKNOWN]: So those were some of the situations that came out of the TNA stuff.
01:40:01.704 --> 01:40:02.644
[UNKNOWN]: Sammy Callahan.
01:40:03.165 --> 01:40:06.147
[UNKNOWN]: This is a sad one because Jason and I both love Sammy Callahan.
01:40:06.167 --> 01:40:07.568
[UNKNOWN]: We respect him immensely.
01:40:08.128 --> 01:40:12.871
[UNKNOWN]: Sammy Callahan got a phone call and he was interviewed on busted open radio and detailed this phone call.
01:40:13.912 --> 01:40:18.495
[UNKNOWN]: And he thought that when he got this phone call, it was about him maybe joining the creative team.
01:40:19.416 --> 01:40:21.377
[UNKNOWN]: So I get on a zoom call and they start
01:40:23.455 --> 01:40:42.116
[UNKNOWN]: and I was like in my mind I'm like maybe this is still maybe I'm getting added to the creative team and then it came to we're sorry we're gonna have to part ways and I kind of went off I'm not one of those people that usually goes off like this I tried not to be very profanity-laced and I don't think it was a thing or of screaming or yelling but I stated my case
01:40:42.657 --> 01:40:45.539
[UNKNOWN]: the people on the call were like, Oh, well, this is this.
01:40:46.119 --> 01:40:47.901
[UNKNOWN]: I was like, Well, now you're going to listen to me.
01:40:48.461 --> 01:40:50.162
[UNKNOWN]: Like, I've given my life for this company.
01:40:50.463 --> 01:40:52.684
[UNKNOWN]: There's been multiple times where I could have left that company.
01:40:52.724 --> 01:40:54.145
[UNKNOWN]: I broke my life for that company.
01:40:54.605 --> 01:40:55.986
[UNKNOWN]: I was world champion for that company.
01:40:56.046 --> 01:40:56.827
[UNKNOWN]: I loved TNA.
01:40:57.307 --> 01:41:00.009
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't particularly want to go work for another company at the time.
01:41:00.410 --> 01:41:02.031
[UNKNOWN]: TNA was my end all be all.
01:41:02.071 --> 01:41:05.133
[UNKNOWN]: And at the end of the day, anyone can say that I knew that company.
01:41:05.673 --> 01:41:07.595
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like almost better than anybody.
01:41:08.115 --> 01:41:12.861
[UNKNOWN]: from the wrestling to the production side to everyone there and I had good relationships with everyone.
01:41:13.775 --> 01:41:23.418
[UNKNOWN]: Now that said to hear Jason because Sammy Callahan I mean he at one point was the guy they leaned on him a lot He was at one point to face to that company.
01:41:23.438 --> 01:41:31.281
[UNKNOWN]: You think TNL you think Sammy Callahan and He runs wrestling revolver and He's obviously gonna go back and do that full-time.
01:41:31.321 --> 01:41:32.481
[UNKNOWN]: He's a very talented guy.
01:41:32.521 --> 01:41:34.902
[UNKNOWN]: He does all the production over there He does the creative.
01:41:34.942 --> 01:41:36.083
[UNKNOWN]: He does all the vignettes.
01:41:36.103 --> 01:41:37.143
[UNKNOWN]: He does the video editing.
01:41:37.163 --> 01:41:37.883
[UNKNOWN]: He does a lot.
01:41:37.903 --> 01:41:42.385
[UNKNOWN]: He's a man that wears many hats over there The fact that he was not even considered
01:41:43.457 --> 01:41:47.062
[UNKNOWN]: for the creative is fucking ridiculous to me.
01:41:47.082 --> 01:41:57.014
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what you thought when you initially heard this, this story, but the fact that they didn't even offer him a spot or even think that he would fit into that role well is just, I guess, very TNA.
01:41:58.656 --> 01:42:16.712
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and he claimed that he even got text messages from Talon who worked there, who said they they wanted him in that role or wished he had gotten that role, I just, the only thing I could think is maybe they just wanted to really just clean house and start fresh, but then delirious is still there.
01:42:17.565 --> 01:42:19.446
[UNKNOWN]: So that doesn't really make a lot of sense to me.
01:42:20.326 --> 01:42:23.046
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if they had some sort of axe to grind with him.
01:42:23.567 --> 01:42:24.207
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not sure.
01:42:24.767 --> 01:42:29.088
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not sure because that certainly would have been a consideration.
01:42:29.128 --> 01:42:33.089
[UNKNOWN]: Like, okay, we have this other person who we can lean on as a resource creatively.
01:42:33.129 --> 01:42:35.590
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe we'll give him a chance in that role and see how he does.
01:42:35.610 --> 01:42:36.810
[UNKNOWN]: But they just let him go too.
01:42:36.890 --> 01:42:39.131
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know if there was another reason for that.
01:42:39.871 --> 01:42:41.713
[UNKNOWN]: that they didn't share with him.
01:42:42.634 --> 01:42:43.815
[UNKNOWN]: But clearly he was very upset.
01:42:43.835 --> 01:42:48.739
[UNKNOWN]: He talked about the Zoom call that he was on and kind of going off on them on the Zoom call.
01:42:49.760 --> 01:42:56.606
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, I don't know what the what the idea was behind that because he did do a lot behind the scene.
01:42:56.686 --> 01:43:01.311
[UNKNOWN]: It was a world champion there as well, retired from the ring in August of last year.
01:43:02.151 --> 01:43:02.692
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know.
01:43:03.132 --> 01:43:03.773
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what it
01:43:06.865 --> 01:43:07.986
[UNKNOWN]: It had been a financial issue.
01:43:08.506 --> 01:43:16.233
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what he was making, but if he was making enough money that they were like, hey, we want to kind of trim the budget a little bit.
01:43:16.893 --> 01:43:23.198
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe people like Sammy Callahan were just sort of low-hanging fruit, where it's like we want to save some money, we'll just get rid of him.
01:43:23.679 --> 01:43:29.003
[UNKNOWN]: I can't imagine though, like if they bring roaddog in, for example, that he's going to come cheap.
01:43:29.103 --> 01:43:32.866
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know if that's the answer either.
01:43:32.886 --> 01:43:34.487
[UNKNOWN]: I don't have a good answer for you, I don't know,
01:43:35.517 --> 01:43:36.238
[UNKNOWN]: it's unfortunate.
01:43:36.678 --> 01:43:41.743
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I think he probably would have done well in the role until someone's actually in that spot.
01:43:41.763 --> 01:43:42.684
[UNKNOWN]: You don't know for sure.
01:43:43.725 --> 01:43:45.667
[UNKNOWN]: But they, here's the sadder thing.
01:43:46.027 --> 01:43:47.129
[UNKNOWN]: They put a statement out.
01:43:47.149 --> 01:43:48.370
[UNKNOWN]: They put a press release out.
01:43:48.690 --> 01:43:52.794
[UNKNOWN]: And in the press release, they specifically named Tessa Blanchard, who we talked about last week.
01:43:52.834 --> 01:43:53.975
[UNKNOWN]: She made the choice to leave.
01:43:54.836 --> 01:43:57.959
[UNKNOWN]: And they mentioned Tommy Dreamer, and they said, and others.
01:43:59.101 --> 01:44:02.268
[UNKNOWN]: So they, he wasn't even worthy of a name drop.
01:44:02.568 --> 01:44:06.277
[UNKNOWN]: In the press release, they lumped him into the and others category.
01:44:07.267 --> 01:44:32.316
[UNKNOWN]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
01:44:36.741 --> 01:44:44.167
[UNKNOWN]: Well, Matt Hardy, he actually chimed in on his podcast, The Screen Life with Matt Hardy about some of the issues here.
01:44:44.668 --> 01:44:45.769
[UNKNOWN]: He mentioned the funny thing.
01:44:45.809 --> 01:44:47.470
[UNKNOWN]: Hold on, Cole.
01:44:47.991 --> 01:44:52.214
[UNKNOWN]: Corey says, maybe they'll bring Roda in just the book through the summer, too.
01:44:52.395 --> 01:44:53.435
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:44:54.296 --> 01:44:56.598
[UNKNOWN]: a short-term booking contract, 90 days.
01:44:56.798 --> 01:44:57.819
[UNKNOWN]: I'll give you a test for Rodman.
01:44:57.839 --> 01:44:59.561
[UNKNOWN]: Let's see if you can get us back to what we need to make.
01:45:00.041 --> 01:45:01.462
[UNKNOWN]: It's fucking ridiculous.
01:45:01.483 --> 01:45:07.808
[UNKNOWN]: I already said in regards to TNA struggling financially, Hardy said that it's opposite.
01:45:08.309 --> 01:45:10.370
[UNKNOWN]: We're actually going in the opposite direction.
01:45:10.390 --> 01:45:11.772
[UNKNOWN]: They're actually saving money.
01:45:12.312 --> 01:45:37.154
[UNKNOWN]: referencing some of the online claims about the company's finances the reason a lot of people want to leave is because they're being offered per night deals and it is what it is uh... which we just talked about i mean they can't pay people people are on short term contracts like we just talked about per night deals so yes uh... but it also isn't uh... a long term vision to build tn well what do you want to be a fly by night company or you want to invest in your future can't be both
01:45:37.852 --> 01:45:46.257
[UNKNOWN]: Well, look, I mean, we had the situation with Steph the Lander where she had a couple of next surgeries, and I believe she paid for that out of her own pocket.
01:45:47.398 --> 01:45:51.480
[UNKNOWN]: And she was the one who talked about how T&A doesn't even have like their own dedicated medical team.
01:45:51.520 --> 01:45:54.422
[UNKNOWN]: And she went through a lot of shit trying to get answers on certain things.
01:45:54.482 --> 01:45:58.624
[UNKNOWN]: And obviously in the end, she also couldn't get cleared, which is why she left.
01:45:59.605 --> 01:46:01.826
[UNKNOWN]: But you know, she had a dip into her own pocket.
01:46:01.846 --> 01:46:05.709
[UNKNOWN]: And so like, you don't know how stuff like that also made factor into things.
01:46:06.614 --> 01:46:15.540
[UNKNOWN]: You know, it's like if you're on the hook for for stuff like that, if you get hurt, that's also going to influence whether or not you want to work for a place like that.
01:46:16.601 --> 01:46:19.263
[UNKNOWN]: Because that's the sort of thing you would hope that you wouldn't have to worry about.
01:46:19.703 --> 01:46:19.883
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:46:21.064 --> 01:46:24.466
[UNKNOWN]: So who knows how that might also factor into people's decision to leave.
01:46:24.486 --> 01:46:26.848
[UNKNOWN]: It could be a combination of that and money and.
01:46:27.765 --> 01:46:37.907
[UNKNOWN]: All I'm saying is, if these people were being paid a wage that they were satisfied, met what they feel like is their value.
01:46:38.567 --> 01:46:45.889
[UNKNOWN]: It would show that the company values them, they're making a good living, then they really wouldn't have any reason to leave in most cases.
01:46:46.189 --> 01:46:50.030
[UNKNOWN]: Every now and then you might have somebody who's upset over creative or something.
01:46:50.690 --> 01:46:53.831
[UNKNOWN]: But again, there's been so many people that have requested their release.
01:46:55.463 --> 01:47:00.726
[UNKNOWN]: Not everybody that we've been talking about was like Tommy Dreamer, Sammy Callahan, right?
01:47:00.766 --> 01:47:16.134
[UNKNOWN]: This wasn't their decision, but for every one of those, there's, you know, a test of blancher who was forced to make a decision and she said, I'm out, or Danny Luna, or a Mila Grace, or the Rascals, or whoever, and there's a reason for that.
01:47:17.375 --> 01:47:18.035
[UNKNOWN]: That's what I'm saying.
01:47:18.055 --> 01:47:18.796
[UNKNOWN]: There's a reason for that.
01:47:18.816 --> 01:47:23.278
[UNKNOWN]: If they were doing good business and making good money, most of those people would still be there.
01:47:24.247 --> 01:47:34.938
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I make sure think about this the same seed deal is is the $10 million even though the the factual figure that they're making because you would think if they make in ten million dollars a year or whatever the case may be.
01:47:35.558 --> 01:47:41.645
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I'm assuming that they pay for their own production costs, which is why they tape a bunch of shows like they that like, you know, like back in the day.
01:47:41.665 --> 01:47:45.428
[UNKNOWN]: NXT did it the old the old WWE model and the 90s did it.
01:47:46.729 --> 01:47:54.631
[UNKNOWN]: You would think that if they're making that type of money they would invest in the talent that they want to be the centerpiece in the future of the company, but they're not so how much money they're really making from this deal.
01:47:54.671 --> 01:47:55.131
[UNKNOWN]: Nobody knows.
01:47:56.292 --> 01:48:05.694
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean again, it was just a rumor at the time that it was a 30 million it was worth 30 million dollars broken down to 10 million a year for three years and that was not anything that was ever confirmed.
01:48:06.494 --> 01:48:09.655
[UNKNOWN]: But that was the belief that was the the rumor at the time.
01:48:10.935 --> 01:48:12.716
[UNKNOWN]: And it's just one of those things where.
01:48:14.335 --> 01:48:19.680
[UNKNOWN]: companies make cuts, you know, like WWE makes cuts and they make so much money it's ridiculous.
01:48:20.221 --> 01:48:25.185
[UNKNOWN]: So, in and of itself, the fact that TNA made cuts doesn't mean that, you know, they have no money coming in.
01:48:25.826 --> 01:48:34.494
[UNKNOWN]: But I am, I am starting to question whether or not, if they are making money on this AMC deal, if it's anywhere close to what was rumored at the time.
01:48:35.823 --> 01:48:42.808
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, because if that was rumored in people are resuming that this is what they're making, they don't really have an incentive to come out publicly and deny it.
01:48:42.828 --> 01:48:44.969
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, okay, well, that's what people think we're making.
01:48:45.729 --> 01:48:47.290
[UNKNOWN]: Great, let them think that.
01:48:47.771 --> 01:48:50.052
[UNKNOWN]: Doesn't mean they're making 10 million a year off to steal.
01:48:50.533 --> 01:48:52.414
[UNKNOWN]: No, it doesn't feel that way to me.
01:48:52.434 --> 01:48:56.737
[UNKNOWN]: That's why, like, so you mentioned at the beginning, Len Asper is the head of Anthem.
01:48:57.377 --> 01:49:08.061
[UNKNOWN]: And so the report, which comes from the same person, by the way, who I think put the initial report out on his Twitter months ago about this being a $30 million deal, this guy Blake Avignon.
01:49:08.081 --> 01:49:08.261
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:49:08.761 --> 01:49:10.161
[UNKNOWN]: It's a sports business reporter.
01:49:10.882 --> 01:49:22.305
[UNKNOWN]: He's the one who started this whole thing about, you know, the sale and Anthem is looking at a floor, like a base sale price of no less than $40 to $50 million for TNA.
01:49:24.026 --> 01:49:32.097
[UNKNOWN]: Scott de Morse supposedly offered somewhere in the range of 10, they didn't even seriously consider it.
01:49:32.137 --> 01:49:33.439
[UNKNOWN]: 40 to 50 million dollars.
01:49:33.759 --> 01:49:41.489
[UNKNOWN]: I would love to know how they come to that figure because there is no way.
01:49:42.455 --> 01:49:46.240
[UNKNOWN]: There is no way that TNA is worth $40 to $50 million.
01:49:46.780 --> 01:49:54.149
[UNKNOWN]: And it says you're Scott Demo, like you said, $10 million, which includes TNA's debts, which is valued between $7 million and $12 million.
01:49:54.570 --> 01:49:58.214
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, so any buyer would have to absorb their toxic debt.
01:49:59.255 --> 01:50:14.431
[UNKNOWN]: which which that invite which makes me think the way that I read that is and maybe you can try men if I'm wrong here they've accumulated so much more debts since 2024 that Scott the Moore's offer of 10 million is not even fucking where they would even think about selling the company which is why it's 50 million now.
01:50:16.100 --> 01:50:19.102
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm just like, again, 40 to 50 million and you're right.
01:50:19.122 --> 01:50:21.523
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, the debt aspect may also have a lot to do with that.
01:50:21.563 --> 01:50:27.526
[UNKNOWN]: But the idea of this company being worth any, anywhere close at that is just so laughably absurd to me.
01:50:27.586 --> 01:50:37.972
[UNKNOWN]: Like, I mean, think about this, like, the rumored sale price when Tony Combaugh Ring of Honor, which was what, uh, four years ago now, maybe, was set to be $4 million.
01:50:39.840 --> 01:50:43.202
[UNKNOWN]: Now, Ring of Honor at that point was, I mean, it was on life support.
01:50:44.043 --> 01:50:47.565
[UNKNOWN]: And they didn't have a TV deal, $4 million.
01:50:48.406 --> 01:50:52.549
[UNKNOWN]: That's about what Vince McMahon spent to buy WCW.
01:50:52.629 --> 01:50:53.730
[UNKNOWN]: As I $4.2 million.
01:50:53.950 --> 01:50:56.832
[UNKNOWN]: And granted that was 25 years ago, but still.
01:50:57.532 --> 01:50:58.493
[UNKNOWN]: And the same thing with them.
01:50:58.513 --> 01:51:03.336
[UNKNOWN]: They lost their TV slots, and that's where the value was coming from.
01:51:04.457 --> 01:51:05.418
[UNKNOWN]: So now here's TNA.
01:51:06.968 --> 01:51:11.596
[UNKNOWN]: How do you go from like these companies sold for $4 million, but TNA is worth $50 million?
01:51:12.217 --> 01:51:12.578
[UNKNOWN]: Why?
01:51:12.999 --> 01:51:16.004
[UNKNOWN]: What is it that makes them worth $50 million?
01:51:16.525 --> 01:51:17.647
[UNKNOWN]: Where is the value?
01:51:17.947 --> 01:51:19.089
[UNKNOWN]: Like if you're buying TNA.
01:51:20.629 --> 01:51:26.793
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe if there's like an AMC slot that comes with it, that might bring some value, but not $50 million worth.
01:51:26.833 --> 01:51:29.555
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm just curious where the value comes from.
01:51:30.255 --> 01:51:36.560
[UNKNOWN]: Is it like IP like bound for glory and slam a verse or is it?
01:51:37.120 --> 01:51:38.401
[UNKNOWN]: Like what is it exactly?
01:51:38.421 --> 01:51:48.367
[UNKNOWN]: Well, unless you're going to laugh at this, fight for select is also reporting that at least one TNA source claim to them that the company is now profitable
01:51:51.134 --> 01:52:16.970
[UNKNOWN]: to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to
01:52:17.513 --> 01:52:21.158
[UNKNOWN]: WWE doesn't have any incentive to buy them right now and spend that kind of money.
01:52:21.218 --> 01:52:21.858
[UNKNOWN]: Why would they?
01:52:21.958 --> 01:52:24.041
[UNKNOWN]: They got the perfect situation right now, right?
01:52:24.061 --> 01:52:25.102
[UNKNOWN]: They're partnered with them.
01:52:26.072 --> 01:52:27.313
[UNKNOWN]: We know they're pulling the strings.
01:52:27.353 --> 01:52:30.415
[UNKNOWN]: We saw what happened over WrestleMania weekend with that whole fiasco.
01:52:30.435 --> 01:52:35.798
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, again, Carlos Silva could talk about, well, you know, they ran against us on a Thursday, like bullshit.
01:52:36.639 --> 01:52:38.580
[UNKNOWN]: We know WWE had something to do with that.
01:52:39.120 --> 01:52:41.522
[UNKNOWN]: So they pull the strings that they want a certain talent.
01:52:41.542 --> 01:52:42.682
[UNKNOWN]: They'll get a certain talent.
01:52:42.702 --> 01:52:44.924
[UNKNOWN]: We know that they don't need to buy them.
01:52:45.444 --> 01:52:47.785
[UNKNOWN]: Like who else would buy them?
01:52:47.805 --> 01:52:48.946
[UNKNOWN]: No, they want to buy them.
01:52:48.966 --> 01:52:50.387
[UNKNOWN]: Like they don't need another wrestling company.
01:52:50.407 --> 01:52:51.728
[UNKNOWN]: It's a run that just bought Triple A.
01:52:52.876 --> 01:52:54.737
[UNKNOWN]: Now, if they bought them, they would strip it for parts.
01:52:54.777 --> 01:52:57.959
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, there's no need for them to even keep it as a separate entity.
01:52:58.160 --> 01:52:59.100
[UNKNOWN]: So, they don't want that.
01:52:59.120 --> 01:53:01.702
[UNKNOWN]: They want the tape library and the TNA could fucking kill itself.
01:53:01.722 --> 01:53:02.722
[UNKNOWN]: That's what they're waiting for.
01:53:02.742 --> 01:53:02.842
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:53:03.243 --> 01:53:10.047
[UNKNOWN]: Well, they'll take the tape library and they'll take the YouTube channel that already exists and they'll basically turn that into the TNA vault.
01:53:10.187 --> 01:53:10.387
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:53:10.447 --> 01:53:13.189
[UNKNOWN]: And they'll make their, they'll make fucking ad money from Google Ads.
01:53:13.269 --> 01:53:13.789
[UNKNOWN]: And there you go.
01:53:13.809 --> 01:53:14.230
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
01:53:14.990 --> 01:53:15.750
[UNKNOWN]: Oh my god.
01:53:16.051 --> 01:53:16.671
[UNKNOWN]: They don't need it.
01:53:16.751 --> 01:53:21.613
[UNKNOWN]: So like, yeah, anybody thinking that there's a sale imminent or anything like that.
01:53:21.653 --> 01:53:23.654
[UNKNOWN]: That was like a big rumor going around this week.
01:53:24.674 --> 01:53:25.715
[UNKNOWN]: No, no.
01:53:25.895 --> 01:53:29.876
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, maybe they're making moves now to kind of tidy up the books and the event that down the road.
01:53:29.896 --> 01:53:35.059
[UNKNOWN]: They're looking at that, but there is no, there is no imminent TNA sale.
01:53:35.099 --> 01:53:37.660
[UNKNOWN]: You think Tony Conwood swoop in and pay $50 million for TNA?
01:53:38.320 --> 01:53:38.440
[UNKNOWN]: No.
01:53:39.841 --> 01:53:40.901
[UNKNOWN]: Now that would be ridiculous.
01:53:41.161 --> 01:53:42.582
[UNKNOWN]: I think he'd be a dumb ass if he did.
01:53:44.605 --> 01:53:45.145
[UNKNOWN]: Why would he?
01:53:45.306 --> 01:53:45.806
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
01:53:46.266 --> 01:53:46.927
[UNKNOWN]: Why would he?
01:53:48.448 --> 01:53:49.468
[UNKNOWN]: There's no reason to.
01:53:49.769 --> 01:53:50.849
[UNKNOWN]: What is he getting for it?
01:53:50.869 --> 01:53:51.690
[UNKNOWN]: That's my question.
01:53:52.551 --> 01:53:53.872
[UNKNOWN]: What are you getting for that money?
01:53:53.912 --> 01:53:56.613
[UNKNOWN]: Because you're not gonna get all the talent cut.
01:53:56.854 --> 01:54:01.337
[UNKNOWN]: Like when WWE FBWCW, they did get some of the talent contracts, but not the big ones.
01:54:01.617 --> 01:54:01.757
[UNKNOWN]: No.
01:54:01.857 --> 01:54:08.802
[UNKNOWN]: Like all the real names, they were on these guaranteed deals, they sat at home, they collected their money, except Booker T and DDP.
01:54:08.822 --> 01:54:11.244
[UNKNOWN]: They took a pay cut to go work for WWE.
01:54:12.224 --> 01:54:12.585
[UNKNOWN]: But like,
01:54:13.771 --> 01:54:23.396
[UNKNOWN]: Let's assume you're not going to get very many if any talent contracts that come with that you're going to get what you're going to get the IP you're going to get the tape library What else do you get?
01:54:26.818 --> 01:54:30.060
[UNKNOWN]: Don't he come by saying the Tony con buys TNA what does he get?
01:54:31.741 --> 01:54:32.982
[UNKNOWN]: How do you justify that?
01:54:34.302 --> 01:54:34.943
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
01:54:34.963 --> 01:54:35.403
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
01:54:35.423 --> 01:54:39.485
[UNKNOWN]: He gets that that fucking silly blue owl that comes with the ant them logo.
01:54:43.137 --> 01:54:43.557
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
01:54:43.917 --> 01:54:44.858
[UNKNOWN]: You don't get the owl.
01:54:44.878 --> 01:54:46.178
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, it doesn't belong to you.
01:54:46.198 --> 01:54:46.879
[UNKNOWN]: Fuck the owl.
01:54:46.919 --> 01:54:48.119
[UNKNOWN]: That's the fuck the owl.
01:54:48.319 --> 01:54:49.039
[UNKNOWN]: Fuck that owl.
01:54:49.800 --> 01:54:50.260
[UNKNOWN]: Um, yeah.
01:54:50.900 --> 01:54:51.560
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't know.
01:54:51.840 --> 01:54:53.401
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
01:54:53.521 --> 01:54:57.343
[UNKNOWN]: TNA though to save on their finances here.
01:54:57.843 --> 01:55:01.524
[UNKNOWN]: The WWE relationship is still there.
01:55:01.905 --> 01:55:07.627
[UNKNOWN]: But the NXT presence has from what I've read and from what I've seen lesson on TNA.
01:55:08.327 --> 01:55:13.292
[UNKNOWN]: Now Jason, apparently TNA and OVW are reportedly working on a developmental agreement.
01:55:13.953 --> 01:55:26.445
[UNKNOWN]: Now TNA and OVW work together, OVW served as TNA's official developmental territory from 2011 to 13, before a financial dispute ended the relationship and the side-reestablished the developmental agreement in 2019.
01:55:27.906 --> 01:55:37.731
[UNKNOWN]: Mike Johnson's reporting that now, TNA at OVW are working towards a new agreement that would see OVW based in Louisville, uh, in essence, become a developmental system for TNA.
01:55:37.771 --> 01:55:44.655
[UNKNOWN]: Now, I think anybody watching what we do and watch the landscape of pro wrestling has realized very quickly as did Carlos Silva.
01:55:45.517 --> 01:55:59.745
[UNKNOWN]: that TNA started to become a developmental territory for NXT and WWE, he realized the little bit too late in the game what people initially realized on day one is that he was being for a lack of better term cocked out here by WWE.
01:56:00.266 --> 01:56:12.453
[UNKNOWN]: So now he's hopefully trying to swing the momentum back to TNA instead of going out and buying and spending money on a big free agent or investing in the future that you have currently there right now and guys like Ricky Sosa and so on and so forth.
01:56:12.973 --> 01:56:19.419
[UNKNOWN]: He's looking to maybe OVW to replenish what currently is being lost now is that is that a good moving your rise for TNA.
01:56:19.900 --> 01:56:24.063
[UNKNOWN]: They're going to have some spots to fill on their television show with old people who are leaving.
01:56:24.144 --> 01:56:27.246
[UNKNOWN]: So Is it going to be a good move?
01:56:28.130 --> 01:56:30.351
[UNKNOWN]: I guess it depends on what does this look like.
01:56:30.431 --> 01:56:33.492
[UNKNOWN]: Like are they truly gonna use it as like a farm system?
01:56:34.352 --> 01:56:44.116
[UNKNOWN]: You know, like a feeder system, or I mean, I can't imagine that it's gonna be a situation similar to what we have with NXT and TNA, like nobody knows who anybody is in OVW.
01:56:44.576 --> 01:56:51.499
[UNKNOWN]: So if it's just a developmental thing and they can send new talent there, then I mean, I don't see that being a bad thing.
01:56:51.539 --> 01:56:53.920
[UNKNOWN]: I don't see how it costs TNA anything.
01:56:55.300 --> 01:57:01.853
[UNKNOWN]: I also don't see it being all that big of a difference maker, no, I mean, maybe for OVW it is.
01:57:03.260 --> 01:57:25.764
[UNKNOWN]: But for TNA, it's like, okay, if they think they can get some or first dibs, let's say, on some younger newer talents, and they can bring those people into TNA, and I'm not saying they're going to be like the next Ricky Soso early on slater, but if they can get some new younger names to bring in and get value out of them, then great.
01:57:26.534 --> 01:57:29.598
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think there's any harm in that, but I also don't see this being all the big of a deal.
01:57:29.958 --> 01:57:32.261
[UNKNOWN]: No, I don't see this being a big deal either.
01:57:32.321 --> 01:57:39.991
[UNKNOWN]: Slam of verse reads this weekend and lean on Slater, could be his last DNA show Mike Santana, could be his last DNA show was the world champion.
01:57:40.732 --> 01:57:43.335
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, those are two, two big spots to fill there.
01:57:44.336 --> 01:57:46.318
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what they have planned.
01:57:46.398 --> 01:57:48.800
[UNKNOWN]: I think Nick Necknehmeth is going to win the championship on Sunday.
01:57:48.820 --> 01:57:49.401
[UNKNOWN]: I think so too.
01:57:50.061 --> 01:57:50.722
[UNKNOWN]: I think so too.
01:57:50.742 --> 01:57:54.686
[UNKNOWN]: Speaking of Necknehmeth, he actually said things were a little weird backstage in TNA.
01:57:54.726 --> 01:57:55.887
[UNKNOWN]: He was on bus that opened.
01:57:55.927 --> 01:58:02.313
[UNKNOWN]: He was very careful to not throw TNA management under the bus, but also praise Tommy Dreamer in the same breath.
01:58:02.673 --> 01:58:03.853
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what the situation is.
01:58:03.893 --> 01:58:07.595
[UNKNOWN]: I think morale building together to get that TV deal couldn't be any higher.
01:58:08.115 --> 01:58:10.316
[UNKNOWN]: And then as we move on, it's got to drop down a little bit.
01:58:10.696 --> 01:58:12.637
[UNKNOWN]: And then it's like, oh, man, some people are leaving.
01:58:13.077 --> 01:58:14.077
[UNKNOWN]: What are we going to do?
01:58:14.217 --> 01:58:15.638
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know exactly what's going on.
01:58:16.438 --> 01:58:18.899
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to get the scoop on what's happening now in two weeks.
01:58:18.939 --> 01:58:19.999
[UNKNOWN]: That's lemon first report.
01:58:20.219 --> 01:58:27.382
[UNKNOWN]: Most importantly, I really think the locker room is such a huge aspect, which we've heard as fans all all through so many years that the locker room is really tight.
01:58:27.982 --> 01:58:28.983
[UNKNOWN]: It's what got me to
01:58:30.463 --> 01:58:35.306
[UNKNOWN]: And I thought we were really in a good place, and I think the last couple of months, it's been a little weird backstage.
01:58:35.346 --> 01:58:39.148
[UNKNOWN]: It's been different, and I don't know exactly why, but I can't put my finger on it.
01:58:39.228 --> 01:58:42.309
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's weird because there's a lot of moving pieces and a lot of change.
01:58:42.329 --> 01:58:44.871
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, with change comes a lot of weird feeling.
01:58:44.931 --> 01:58:46.272
[UNKNOWN]: So I think that's what he means.
01:58:46.292 --> 01:58:47.612
[UNKNOWN]: He doesn't mean anything derogatory.
01:58:48.113 --> 01:58:51.014
[UNKNOWN]: He's not putting anybody on, on, you know, mostly.
01:58:51.494 --> 01:58:57.918
[UNKNOWN]: No, but it was telling though, even he said, like, the last couple of months, it's just been a weird vibe behind the scenes.
01:58:58.679 --> 01:59:03.416
[UNKNOWN]: Like the way it felt a few months ago, something's changed and he can't quite put his finger on what that is.
01:59:05.006 --> 01:59:07.408
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, hi, I hope for the best there with TNA.
01:59:07.889 --> 01:59:11.812
[UNKNOWN]: I'll be keeping close eyes to the ground on what happened last time of verse three Sunday.
01:59:12.352 --> 01:59:13.754
[UNKNOWN]: I know Amazing Reds going to be on the show.
01:59:13.774 --> 01:59:17.237
[UNKNOWN]: I'm probably going to tune in just to see him and what he's got going on there.
01:59:17.257 --> 01:59:19.158
[UNKNOWN]: He's going to be in that next exhibition match.
01:59:19.599 --> 01:59:19.799
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:59:20.119 --> 01:59:20.359
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:59:20.439 --> 01:59:23.262
[UNKNOWN]: First, first TNA match for him in 15 years.
01:59:23.302 --> 01:59:23.462
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:59:24.623 --> 01:59:29.767
[UNKNOWN]: And not that most people watching this probably need a primer, but
01:59:30.488 --> 01:59:40.093
[UNKNOWN]: If you want to go back and look at some great amazing red matches, he was in one of these matches at Bound for Glory back in 2009, I think he was actually defending the title on that match.
01:59:40.113 --> 01:59:40.873
[UNKNOWN]: That was a great one.
01:59:41.694 --> 01:59:48.757
[UNKNOWN]: And then he's had a lot of great matches in hog over the last decade plus, he had one with AJ Styles back in 2014.
01:59:50.472 --> 01:59:54.117
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we've talked about the one with Mike Santana two years ago Puerto Rican weekend.
01:59:54.137 --> 01:59:56.460
[UNKNOWN]: That was just tremendous on YouTube.
01:59:56.480 --> 01:59:56.921
[UNKNOWN]: Check it out.
01:59:56.961 --> 01:59:57.842
[UNKNOWN]: So we need to know.
01:59:58.323 --> 02:00:07.015
[UNKNOWN]: And even last month, you know, in LA and then New York wrestling speedball in Kevin night, Bandito in April and Las Vegas.
02:00:07.916 --> 02:00:13.578
[UNKNOWN]: So if you're looking for some amazing red and a lot of those matches are on the HOG channel on YouTube.
02:00:13.738 --> 02:00:16.339
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's one with Malachi black up there too.
02:00:16.359 --> 02:00:18.000
[UNKNOWN]: We'll ask for a, I mean the whole time.
02:00:18.240 --> 02:00:24.442
[UNKNOWN]: So before, before Sunday, if you want to go kind of wet your appetite, those are the matches I would go check out.
02:00:25.302 --> 02:00:32.111
[UNKNOWN]: This is the last TNA note before we get into some rapid fire forbid and door predictions and then we'll round out with a super chat.
02:00:32.171 --> 02:00:32.912
[UNKNOWN]: Tessa Blanchard.
02:00:32.932 --> 02:00:37.097
[UNKNOWN]: I know we talked about Tessa last week and she was among the names that were let go.
02:00:37.638 --> 02:00:39.740
[UNKNOWN]: She acts for her release and it was granted.
02:00:40.481 --> 02:00:42.744
[UNKNOWN]: There was more here from Fightful Select.
02:00:43.545 --> 02:00:58.210
[UNKNOWN]: Fifel and Sean Rossat reported that Tessa had secured her TNA release and speaking with sources, there was a conflict between who wanted her to make or I guess TNA, wanted her to make a choice to prioritize either TNA or CMLL.
02:00:58.691 --> 02:01:01.632
[UNKNOWN]: Now, many were actually surprised that she was able to continue doing both.
02:01:02.372 --> 02:01:10.865
[UNKNOWN]: for reasons I'll get into, but tested stated and I quote, and this was translated in from Spanish to to English here.
02:01:11.807 --> 02:01:14.751
[UNKNOWN]: I want to sort things out and set the record straight.
02:01:15.720 --> 02:01:17.961
[UNKNOWN]: She said, here I have a life.
02:01:18.041 --> 02:01:18.741
[UNKNOWN]: I'm very happy.
02:01:19.041 --> 02:01:21.042
[UNKNOWN]: The US company TNA acts me.
02:01:21.522 --> 02:01:24.584
[UNKNOWN]: You need to decide whether you're a CMLL wrestler or TNA wrestler.
02:01:25.064 --> 02:01:28.025
[UNKNOWN]: I took my time to think it over with my dad, who might trust very much.
02:01:28.065 --> 02:01:28.886
[UNKNOWN]: My life is here.
02:01:29.046 --> 02:01:30.946
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not just another foreigner.
02:01:31.627 --> 02:01:34.288
[UNKNOWN]: I'm the most Mexican Gringa, she says.
02:01:35.169 --> 02:01:52.498
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, CMLL books test a more they paid test a more it was claim that within TNA they were going to re-work her deal To offer her more money due to that now I'm gonna stop there Jason because I had to go Got a cage match.
02:01:52.599 --> 02:01:54.680
[UNKNOWN]: I had to see what the fuck these people were talking about
02:01:55.560 --> 02:01:57.463
[UNKNOWN]: Do you realize that when I read that line?
02:01:57.503 --> 02:02:06.934
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, I know that there's been just not enough Tesla on TNA television after they kind of sneakily brought her in in the dark of night to fucking make sure she was back with the company.
02:02:07.354 --> 02:02:13.201
[UNKNOWN]: Bro, do you realize that CMLL has booked Tesla Blanchard 28 times since March?
02:02:13.983 --> 02:02:22.945
[UNKNOWN]: TNA has booked Tessa Blanchard nine times in all of 2026 yet the report says that they wanted to rework her deal and offer her more money.
02:02:23.245 --> 02:02:29.746
[UNKNOWN]: If they wanted to retain her services and offer her more money, then that would have happened well before the nine times in 2026.
02:02:30.106 --> 02:02:34.987
[UNKNOWN]: How did we even get to this point where TNA is this fucking laughable in regards to Tessa Blanchard?
02:02:36.747 --> 02:02:37.227
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't know.
02:02:37.247 --> 02:02:40.408
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, if they had an interest in using her, there was nothing stopping
02:02:43.106 --> 02:02:49.512
[UNKNOWN]: And it's again, very telling that any of the interpromotional stuff with NXT, she was never involved in any of that.
02:02:49.552 --> 02:02:49.752
[UNKNOWN]: No.
02:02:50.452 --> 02:03:00.261
[UNKNOWN]: So when that started, I would be curious to go back and see when that really started if that coincided with her sort of disappearing from TNA.
02:03:00.281 --> 02:03:01.021
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like it did.
02:03:01.802 --> 02:03:08.469
[UNKNOWN]: I know they shot some sort of vangle, like a long time ago where God, who did she beat up?
02:03:09.069 --> 02:03:10.130
[UNKNOWN]: Well, not McKenzie Mitchell.
02:03:10.631 --> 02:03:11.632
[UNKNOWN]: No, she beat up.
02:03:11.812 --> 02:03:13.374
[UNKNOWN]: The interviewer, right?
02:03:13.974 --> 02:03:14.775
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but I forgot.
02:03:14.795 --> 02:03:15.376
[UNKNOWN]: I forgot her name.
02:03:15.396 --> 02:03:16.176
[UNKNOWN]: I forgot who it was.
02:03:16.357 --> 02:03:19.380
[UNKNOWN]: And then, but I think she got suspended and then she was off TV for a while.
02:03:20.501 --> 02:03:26.685
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, I had gone back and looked also, and she was not used very often at all last year, even this year, right?
02:03:26.705 --> 02:03:29.327
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, how many times have she been in TNA this year?
02:03:29.367 --> 02:03:30.148
[UNKNOWN]: Not very often.
02:03:31.089 --> 02:03:41.576
[UNKNOWN]: So it's a little weird that they were willing to put more money towards her, that would indicate a bigger push, but you would think if they wanted to push her in a serious way, what was stopping them from doing that before?
02:03:41.616 --> 02:03:42.997
[UNKNOWN]: So I questioned that.
02:03:43.177 --> 02:03:44.238
[UNKNOWN]: G-immiller was her name.
02:03:44.918 --> 02:03:45.679
[UNKNOWN]: Right, G-immiller.
02:03:46.139 --> 02:03:47.140
[UNKNOWN]: She beat up G-immiller.
02:03:49.617 --> 02:03:54.001
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and again, as far as her decision to leave for her, it was a no-brainer.
02:03:55.162 --> 02:03:57.544
[UNKNOWN]: You're getting booked more, you're getting paid more.
02:03:58.044 --> 02:04:02.828
[UNKNOWN]: I think she lives in Mexico City, or I don't know where she may be now with her fiance.
02:04:03.929 --> 02:04:09.393
[UNKNOWN]: She lives down there if you're going to put a gun to her head and make her make a decision.
02:04:10.274 --> 02:04:12.316
[UNKNOWN]: Gee, I wonder what decision she's going to make.
02:04:12.356 --> 02:04:13.977
[UNKNOWN]: Do I stay with the company that's paying me
02:04:16.459 --> 02:04:43.609
[UNKNOWN]: uh... or do i go to this other place which is coming off it's hottest business year in fucking years uh... g i wonder so she made the choice that i think most people figured she would make well tessa was under a three year deal they ended this relationship of a half way through the contract listen do you do you think and this is where my line of thinking goes because any pro wrestling is just a petty business and there's a lot of political movement did do you feel that
02:04:45.698 --> 02:04:57.467
[UNKNOWN]: Knowing that CMLL is in a partnership with AEW and Tony Khan, do you feel like that is what made them pressure test a blancher to either choose T&A or CMLL or am I just out of line thinking that?
02:04:57.927 --> 02:05:01.430
[UNKNOWN]: I think it came from probably the relationship with WWE.
02:05:02.571 --> 02:05:02.651
[UNKNOWN]: OK.
02:05:04.343 --> 02:05:19.541
[UNKNOWN]: WWE partially owns AAA, AAA and CMLL, they don't play well together, they're mortal bitter enemies, and you just have to assume that there was something, whether it was
02:05:20.562 --> 02:05:28.668
[UNKNOWN]: Carlos Silva and TNA being proactive because they didn't want it to get to a point where it ruffled feathers or something was said to them.
02:05:28.688 --> 02:05:32.511
[UNKNOWN]: It's kind of like the WrestleMania weekend situation all over again.
02:05:33.372 --> 02:05:42.699
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know which one it is, but I think it had to do with the fact that hey, we got a relationship with WWE and so we can't we can't allow this.
02:05:43.560 --> 02:05:45.161
[UNKNOWN]: CMLL has a working agreement
02:05:46.822 --> 02:05:57.786
[UNKNOWN]: and WWE on AAA, we work with WWE, we have their talent on our show sometimes, whoever made the call, I think it has to do with politics at the end of the day.
02:05:58.626 --> 02:06:03.068
[UNKNOWN]: And this partnership with WWE has not worked out well in any aspect for TNA.
02:06:03.088 --> 02:06:06.809
[UNKNOWN]: It comes with pros and it comes with cons.
02:06:07.990 --> 02:06:14.652
[UNKNOWN]: Short-term pros and long-term cons for TNA weigh the benefits and you've got to weigh the disadvantages.
02:06:15.285 --> 02:06:19.089
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, that's the deal with TNA busy week.
02:06:19.490 --> 02:06:24.195
[UNKNOWN]: A lot of a lot of this has nothing to do with the on air product outside of who's going to be running the creative.
02:06:24.255 --> 02:06:32.464
[UNKNOWN]: I wish there was more excitement about the on air product than the backstage, but that's that's the way the cookie crumbled here as far as Tesla.
02:06:32.484 --> 02:06:35.007
[UNKNOWN]: She's not a free agent and she will remain with CML.
02:06:35.407 --> 02:06:36.569
[UNKNOWN]: So that's the deal there.
02:06:37.945 --> 02:06:40.207
[UNKNOWN]: So let's get into some AEW talk.
02:06:40.227 --> 02:06:44.751
[UNKNOWN]: They also have a paper view this weekend on top of WWE Night of Champions.
02:06:44.771 --> 02:06:46.332
[UNKNOWN]: We got a great American bash.
02:06:46.352 --> 02:06:46.793
[UNKNOWN]: We got slammer.
02:06:46.813 --> 02:06:48.454
[UNKNOWN]: First we got a WWE forbidden door.
02:06:48.474 --> 02:06:51.117
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, if you look pro wrestling, this is the weekend for you.
02:06:51.537 --> 02:06:53.699
[UNKNOWN]: Go and fuck and celebrate to your heart's content.
02:06:54.059 --> 02:06:55.620
[UNKNOWN]: up here, Salomon's for sound off.
02:06:55.860 --> 02:07:00.041
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I got the sound off and I don't know what I'm doing this week.
02:07:00.101 --> 02:07:06.044
[UNKNOWN]: I don't even know what I'm covering because for bidding door to me is more like for bidding bore.
02:07:06.464 --> 02:07:07.344
[UNKNOWN]: That's just the way I feel.
02:07:07.384 --> 02:07:08.665
[UNKNOWN]: I do not like this current season.
02:07:09.425 --> 02:07:11.326
[UNKNOWN]: We'll start with some of the things on Dynamite Jason.
02:07:11.446 --> 02:07:14.867
[UNKNOWN]: What did you make of the oven?
02:07:14.947 --> 02:07:15.768
[UNKNOWN]: I'll start here.
02:07:16.740 --> 02:07:35.434
[UNKNOWN]: Now, my award is in a situation where they are really kind of going with her, they're giving her the platform to perform after the tragic death of her brother, my world beat sky blue and then she went on to collision and I couldn't believe what I read because I don't watch collision.
02:07:35.974 --> 02:07:41.058
[UNKNOWN]: My award had advanced to the finals to the women's own effort forbidden door by beating Athena.
02:07:41.945 --> 02:07:45.687
[UNKNOWN]: Now, on one hand, I love when a company wants to create new stars.
02:07:45.848 --> 02:07:49.350
[UNKNOWN]: I love a company that wants to get behind young talent that we haven't seen before.
02:07:49.990 --> 02:08:04.440
[UNKNOWN]: The thing is, it's all in the follow-up, and I don't genuinely feel that AEW is going to do much with my world in this particular instance if she loses or if she wins going into the all-in-show in Wembley.
02:08:05.080 --> 02:08:21.429
[UNKNOWN]: What did you make of her beating Athena because I know me and you were on the same page, Athena Mercedes, Osprey and Swarov would have been a tremendous one to combo for a largely forgettable show, but Tony opted to go with my world over Athena and now we have my world in Mercedes at forbidden door.
02:08:21.509 --> 02:08:22.209
[UNKNOWN]: I don't like it.
02:08:22.930 --> 02:08:27.812
[UNKNOWN]: The one win was fine over over sky blue, but I think now taking Athena out of the tournament.
02:08:27.833 --> 02:08:30.814
[UNKNOWN]: I think that's a little, that's not a good unpredictable to me.
02:08:30.994 --> 02:08:32.255
[UNKNOWN]: I think that's a bad creative move.
02:08:33.238 --> 02:08:40.161
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, the match that I was hoping for was Mercedes and Athena, which we saw once last year.
02:08:40.221 --> 02:08:41.121
[UNKNOWN]: It's been long enough.
02:08:41.161 --> 02:08:43.062
[UNKNOWN]: It's been over a year since we've seen it.
02:08:43.902 --> 02:08:51.765
[UNKNOWN]: And it just in terms of the biggest possible matches that you could do in the finals on this paper view, there was really none bigger than Mercedes and Athena.
02:08:52.826 --> 02:08:55.407
[UNKNOWN]: So I hate that it robbed us of that.
02:08:56.576 --> 02:09:18.928
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, on the other hand, there's, you know, he has this feel good story now, you know, when it comes to this woman, not just because of this terrible tragedy, you know, where she lost her brother, but it's just, it's, first of all, can we just, like, take a step back here and realize, like, the two women who are in the finals of this tournament were not even in the tournament when it started.
02:09:20.188 --> 02:09:22.149
[UNKNOWN]: Like Mercedes was not in this tournament, no.
02:09:22.730 --> 02:09:24.531
[UNKNOWN]: My world was not in this tournament, no.
02:09:25.131 --> 02:09:27.193
[UNKNOWN]: And now they're in the finals, which is pretty crazy.
02:09:28.114 --> 02:09:38.421
[UNKNOWN]: But then also, if you go back, and I talked about this on Crown, like if you think about Maya and how she even kind of came into the picture here, it goes back to last November.
02:09:38.721 --> 02:09:48.708
[UNKNOWN]: And you remember the whole controversy with Nixon New Well and Miranda Alize and they walked out on an episode to dynamite, they were gonna lose a match, they weren't being given enough time, whatever their excuse was.
02:09:49.925 --> 02:09:54.847
[UNKNOWN]: And my world was there, and Hayon was there, and they stepped up and put me in coach.
02:09:55.607 --> 02:10:00.228
[UNKNOWN]: So they basically took their spot, and it was a few weeks later, and Tony consigned them to contracts.
02:10:01.189 --> 02:10:04.330
[UNKNOWN]: So this woman was being used as like the occasional extra.
02:10:04.890 --> 02:10:08.591
[UNKNOWN]: You know, it was like an enhancement talent who wasn't even under contract less than a year ago.
02:10:09.512 --> 02:10:13.253
[UNKNOWN]: And now here we are, and she's in the finals of this tournament at forbidden door.
02:10:14.198 --> 02:10:38.875
[UNKNOWN]: So for her it's been it like you can you can create this great feel good story out of it if you tell that story I look at this and I I would think that most people are probably looking at this saying okay well this is where the the the story ends right and Mercedes is gonna win and she's gonna go to all in I don't see it that way I actually think it's going the exact opposite way
02:10:40.330 --> 02:10:44.793
[UNKNOWN]: And I think that Tony is going to give my of the win on this paper view.
02:10:45.553 --> 02:10:51.157
[UNKNOWN]: And part of it is Mercedes is walking around with the Owen Harp bell.
02:10:51.857 --> 02:10:53.378
[UNKNOWN]: Fashie, she walks around with it.
02:10:54.745 --> 02:10:58.627
[UNKNOWN]: It's the one belt that she has left that she hasn't lost, right?
02:10:58.647 --> 02:11:05.991
[UNKNOWN]: Because that belt doesn't get defended week to week, she's effectively defending it now because in order to retain it, she'll have to win the tournament.
02:11:06.011 --> 02:11:08.312
[UNKNOWN]: But if she loses the tournament, she loses the belt.
02:11:09.253 --> 02:11:12.855
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm looking at this going, she lost all 12 other belts that she had.
02:11:13.635 --> 02:11:14.776
[UNKNOWN]: She still has this one.
02:11:16.077 --> 02:11:18.958
[UNKNOWN]: And I think that she's got to lose that belt.
02:11:19.939 --> 02:11:21.700
[UNKNOWN]: Now I was thinking that Athena would win.
02:11:22.687 --> 02:11:25.769
[UNKNOWN]: Right, so Mercedes would lose the belt that way, but that went out the window.
02:11:26.409 --> 02:11:29.250
[UNKNOWN]: I still feel the same way though, where she's got that one belt left.
02:11:30.091 --> 02:11:34.433
[UNKNOWN]: And how are you going to have her lose all these other belts, but she's still hold on to the own heart belt?
02:11:35.534 --> 02:11:37.094
[UNKNOWN]: Doesn't she have to lose that belt, too?
02:11:39.136 --> 02:11:43.778
[UNKNOWN]: Um, serves the story more, if she's got the one belt left and she loses.
02:11:43.878 --> 02:11:45.839
[UNKNOWN]: And again, it's this big shocking thing, right?
02:11:45.859 --> 02:11:51.162
[UNKNOWN]: You got the story of my world, oh my gosh, she came from, she wasn't even supposed to be in the tournament and she won.
02:11:52.369 --> 02:11:59.375
[UNKNOWN]: and she's going to go on to all in and she's going to get this this championship match and actually has the credibility of being the woman who beat.
02:11:59.795 --> 02:12:03.018
[UNKNOWN]: It's like a Jericho beat fucking rock at Austin in the same night.
02:12:03.038 --> 02:12:04.859
[UNKNOWN]: He hasn't shut up about it for 25 years.
02:12:05.540 --> 02:12:08.883
[UNKNOWN]: She'll be the woman who in this tournament beat Athena and Mercedes Monet.
02:12:09.943 --> 02:12:15.928
[UNKNOWN]: And if Tony Khan can actually create a new star out of it, good for him, he'll he'll be a genius, right?
02:12:16.289 --> 02:12:17.269
[UNKNOWN]: Is he going to?
02:12:17.950 --> 02:12:18.831
[UNKNOWN]: That's a different story.
02:12:19.815 --> 02:12:22.176
[UNKNOWN]: And so if he doesn't, then people will, we'll shit on him.
02:12:22.196 --> 02:12:28.059
[UNKNOWN]: They're gonna shit on him for it anyway because again, we agree like the other matches, the match that we wanted to see.
02:12:29.080 --> 02:12:32.381
[UNKNOWN]: But at least if you look at it, he could potentially create a new star.
02:12:32.782 --> 02:12:45.028
[UNKNOWN]: I, I'm gonna skip ahead here a little bit, but I feel like the match that we are going to get in in Wembley is gonna be a rematch of the match we're getting on Sunday.
02:12:46.815 --> 02:12:49.202
[UNKNOWN]: Only that, only that time it'll be for the world champions.
02:12:49.222 --> 02:12:50.446
[UNKNOWN]: That's, you, you are.
02:12:51.477 --> 02:12:52.517
[UNKNOWN]: They're a ballsy guy.
02:12:52.537 --> 02:12:53.058
[UNKNOWN]: I'll tell you.
02:12:53.198 --> 02:12:54.378
[UNKNOWN]: That's that's crazy.
02:12:54.778 --> 02:12:55.579
[UNKNOWN]: I got big balls.
02:12:55.639 --> 02:12:56.579
[UNKNOWN]: What can I say?
02:12:56.999 --> 02:12:57.500
[UNKNOWN]: I guess so.
02:12:57.840 --> 02:13:02.362
[UNKNOWN]: But the thing that the way that I look at it is this they show was not now granted this this two months to go.
02:13:03.142 --> 02:13:06.184
[UNKNOWN]: They just eclipse 25,000 tickets.
02:13:06.244 --> 02:13:09.365
[UNKNOWN]: This is trending well below the last time where they were there.
02:13:09.485 --> 02:13:13.107
[UNKNOWN]: And then especially the first time to me the way that I look at it.
02:13:13.147 --> 02:13:15.988
[UNKNOWN]: This is just me personally the way I would do things.
02:13:16.708 --> 02:13:18.009
[UNKNOWN]: If you are severely
02:13:20.798 --> 02:13:34.160
[UNKNOWN]: You need to egg it matches out there relatively quick, which will, which will know too of kind of unconfirmed after, after some they show, you are booking the biggest matches that you possibly have at your disposal to sell that place out as much as you can.
02:13:34.800 --> 02:13:38.801
[UNKNOWN]: My world ain't selling a single ticket to that show, no matter who she's in the ring with.
02:13:39.261 --> 02:13:45.182
[UNKNOWN]: So the way that I book things is you go with that, I mean, he already mentioned today that Mercedes is one of his pillars.
02:13:45.202 --> 02:13:48.523
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know why he would actually come out there and say that publicly and then have
02:13:49.989 --> 02:13:50.990
[UNKNOWN]: be the Owen final.
02:13:51.530 --> 02:13:55.013
[UNKNOWN]: I'm book and Mercedes to win this match and I'm book and Mercedes versus Tecla.
02:13:55.613 --> 02:13:57.835
[UNKNOWN]: That's all in, which should be a tremendous match.
02:13:58.787 --> 02:13:59.187
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
02:14:01.089 --> 02:14:02.249
[UNKNOWN]: I don't see it going that way.
02:14:04.411 --> 02:14:10.695
[UNKNOWN]: I like your original idea of Athena winning and then Mercedes winning the title and then we get a rematch at Wembley between them.
02:14:10.795 --> 02:14:14.517
[UNKNOWN]: Well, yeah, that's what I would have done, but that's up the fucking window now.
02:14:15.318 --> 02:14:19.280
[UNKNOWN]: So, I'm just, I'm looking at this and I'm thinking he's gonna go all the way with Maya.
02:14:19.560 --> 02:14:21.422
[UNKNOWN]: Mercedes is gonna lose that last belt.
02:14:22.503 --> 02:14:27.334
[UNKNOWN]: If anyone is going to be the draw here in this match in Celtic, it would be Mercedes.
02:14:27.955 --> 02:14:31.302
[UNKNOWN]: And so Maya being in there, it almost doesn't even matter, I guess, but like
02:14:32.095 --> 02:14:33.495
[UNKNOWN]: He may be looking at it as well.
02:14:33.515 --> 02:14:34.615
[UNKNOWN]: She's got a great story.
02:14:34.635 --> 02:14:42.497
[UNKNOWN]: And if we can get people invested in this great underdog story, maybe that'll resonate with people, he's got to do a really good job of selling that, though.
02:14:42.517 --> 02:14:46.337
[UNKNOWN]: And there's got to be promos, there's got to be video packages, like you've got to go all the way with it.
02:14:46.978 --> 02:14:53.619
[UNKNOWN]: But I'm just looking at this, and I'm like, on this same show, there's an A, W, World Title match between Tecla and Starlight Kid.
02:14:54.879 --> 02:14:57.059
[UNKNOWN]: Starlight Kid is very good.
02:14:58.260 --> 02:15:00.980
[UNKNOWN]: And she's coming in, she's challenging for the championship.
02:15:02.642 --> 02:15:04.924
[UNKNOWN]: at every turn here in the bill to this match.
02:15:05.044 --> 02:15:08.066
[UNKNOWN]: Tecla has just shit on stardom.
02:15:08.166 --> 02:15:11.569
[UNKNOWN]: She's literally spat on the company logo.
02:15:11.589 --> 02:15:13.771
[UNKNOWN]: She probably would have like, they would show it on TBS.
02:15:13.811 --> 02:15:15.492
[UNKNOWN]: I think she would squat and take a shit.
02:15:15.772 --> 02:15:18.515
[UNKNOWN]: Like on the stardom logo to try to put this thing over.
02:15:18.975 --> 02:15:20.676
[UNKNOWN]: She just showed up in Japan the other day.
02:15:20.716 --> 02:15:23.458
[UNKNOWN]: She beat up the president again over there, try to shave his head.
02:15:24.059 --> 02:15:25.980
[UNKNOWN]: Like she's doing everything she can.
02:15:26.000 --> 02:15:31.645
[UNKNOWN]: All right, to just crap all over this company and be the real villain here in this story.
02:15:33.257 --> 02:15:40.780
[UNKNOWN]: If Starlight Kid goes in there, and Techledge is beats her, it's just to me, it's just it buries the shit out of Stardom.
02:15:41.540 --> 02:15:44.641
[UNKNOWN]: It's almost now a situation where I feel like Stardom has to win.
02:15:45.801 --> 02:15:50.443
[UNKNOWN]: Like you've come to be conditioned on these shows to expect BAW people to win.
02:15:51.233 --> 02:15:56.638
[UNKNOWN]: You got to throw a bone to a startup or a CMLL, or even a new Japan every now and then.
02:15:57.618 --> 02:15:58.960
[UNKNOWN]: I think they're gonna do that here.
02:15:59.720 --> 02:16:03.083
[UNKNOWN]: And I think Starlight Kid is gonna win the championship from Tecla.
02:16:04.344 --> 02:16:10.509
[UNKNOWN]: And then at redemption next month, I think we get Mercedes and Starlight Kid and Mercedes beats her to win the belt.
02:16:11.810 --> 02:16:13.332
[UNKNOWN]: Goes into Wembley as the champion.
02:16:13.992 --> 02:16:18.776
[UNKNOWN]: Maya gets the rematch with her and because she beat her already once before,
02:16:19.738 --> 02:16:19.898
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
02:16:19.938 --> 02:16:21.699
[UNKNOWN]: She's already established that she can beat her.
02:16:21.779 --> 02:16:36.407
[UNKNOWN]: So at least it gives her in the in the eyes of some people, she's got that credibility like, okay, she's she's beaten her once she could beat her again and you do Mercedes and my in that in that case Mercedes wins like I'm not putting the belt on my a world.
02:16:37.501 --> 02:16:39.663
[UNKNOWN]: But that's how I think things might play out.
02:16:39.923 --> 02:16:41.765
[UNKNOWN]: I think he might throw a bone to start him here.
02:16:42.826 --> 02:16:48.913
[UNKNOWN]: And because Tony has said, like, Starlight Kid is his favorite wrestler outside of AWS.
02:16:49.133 --> 02:16:50.695
[UNKNOWN]: Take the set that I want to say.
02:16:51.616 --> 02:16:53.497
[UNKNOWN]: But I think Tony has legitimately said that.
02:16:54.540 --> 02:16:59.105
[UNKNOWN]: So I think we're going to get a title change, but then she drops it to Mercedes at that paper.
02:16:59.125 --> 02:17:04.810
[UNKNOWN]: You know what other what other matches with New Japan talent that we have on their show that they could give a bone to here.
02:17:04.850 --> 02:17:05.291
[UNKNOWN]: Let's see.
02:17:06.252 --> 02:17:10.776
[UNKNOWN]: Well, you got Kenny Omega and Zach Saber Jr. Well, Shadow Umino is wrestling.
02:17:10.796 --> 02:17:11.577
[UNKNOWN]: He's going to get a win.
02:17:11.617 --> 02:17:12.418
[UNKNOWN]: So there's a bone there.
02:17:14.058 --> 02:17:21.301
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but he's defending his title, he's just going to retain his title, I mean, he's he's the defending champion, he's not winning a championship, he's going to retain his title.
02:17:21.341 --> 02:17:23.922
[UNKNOWN]: So that's not really, that's not really much of a bone.
02:17:25.303 --> 02:17:26.783
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, what else is there another one?
02:17:26.803 --> 02:17:27.203
[UNKNOWN]: Let me see.
02:17:27.384 --> 02:17:34.827
[UNKNOWN]: Ah, the box of wrestling L-sky team, Mystico, Masquer de Rada, and then unbound, Shingo, and Teton.
02:17:35.327 --> 02:17:37.408
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think I think the bucks are taking that.
02:17:46.012 --> 02:17:48.194
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, you just mentioned Schingos team.
02:17:48.254 --> 02:17:50.657
[UNKNOWN]: I guess that would be that would be that would be number two.
02:17:50.697 --> 02:17:51.438
[UNKNOWN]: Is that really deep?
02:17:51.458 --> 02:17:51.678
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:17:51.698 --> 02:17:51.938
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:17:51.958 --> 02:17:52.279
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:17:52.299 --> 02:17:52.539
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:17:52.559 --> 02:17:52.779
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:17:53.059 --> 02:17:53.400
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:17:53.460 --> 02:17:53.720
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:17:53.780 --> 02:17:54.100
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:17:54.120 --> 02:17:54.321
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:17:54.341 --> 02:17:55.001
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:17:55.021 --> 02:17:55.222
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:17:55.242 --> 02:17:55.502
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:17:55.522 --> 02:17:55.722
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:17:55.742 --> 02:17:56.022
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:17:56.042 --> 02:17:56.423
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:17:56.463 --> 02:17:56.703
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:17:56.723 --> 02:17:56.963
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:17:56.983 --> 02:17:57.344
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:17:57.364 --> 02:17:57.764
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:17:57.784 --> 02:17:58.004
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:17:58.024 --> 02:17:58.245
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:17:58.265 --> 02:17:58.505
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:17:58.525 --> 02:17:58.905
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:17:58.925 --> 02:17:59.186
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:17:59.226 --> 02:18:00.447
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:18:00.467 --> 02:18:01.088
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:18:01.108 --> 02:18:01.608
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:18:01.628 --> 02:18:01.828
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:18:01.848 --> 02:18:02.049
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:18:02.069 --> 02:18:02.289
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:18:02.309 --> 02:18:02.509
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:18:02.529 --> 02:18:02.749
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:18:02.769 --> 02:18:02.990
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:18:03.010 --> 02:18:03.330
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:18:03.350 --> 02:18:03.630
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:18:03.650 --> 02:18:03.850
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:18:03.870 --> 02:18:04.071
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:18:04.091 --> 02:18:04.331
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:18:04.351 --> 02:18:04.651
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:18:04.691 --> 02:18:05.412
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:18:05.432 --> 02:18:05.692
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:18:05.712 --> 02:18:05.913
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:18:05.933 --> 02:18:06.193
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:18:06.213 --> 02:18:06.473
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:18:06.493 --> 02:18:06.793
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:18:06.814 --> 02:18:07.094
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:18:07.114 --> 02:18:07.434
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:18:07.514 --> 02:18:07.795
[UNKNOWN]: That
02:18:08.633 --> 02:18:19.465
[UNKNOWN]: I just, like, with Triple H and this has nothing to do with, you know, my dislike for certain AEW aspects and their television show, I just don't, I don't give Tony Conn the benefit of the doubt there.
02:18:19.845 --> 02:18:20.086
[UNKNOWN]: I don't.
02:18:20.866 --> 02:18:28.054
[UNKNOWN]: I don't take him as the guy who wants to build my up and we'll sustain my world up on their television.
02:18:28.074 --> 02:18:30.056
[UNKNOWN]: I think she will win, and then
02:18:31.298 --> 02:18:33.701
[UNKNOWN]: He'll use her for the time being and then send her back to Ring of Honor.
02:18:34.202 --> 02:18:37.145
[UNKNOWN]: Or she'll lose on Sunday and then go right back to Ring of Honor.
02:18:37.526 --> 02:18:39.588
[UNKNOWN]: I think she was in the right moment at the right time.
02:18:40.570 --> 02:18:42.953
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, SB makes a good point to you.
02:18:43.173 --> 02:18:46.036
[UNKNOWN]: There's no CMLL match outside of Mystico on the pre-show.
02:18:46.217 --> 02:18:46.297
[UNKNOWN]: No.
02:18:47.428 --> 02:18:48.729
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, the whole concept is dead.
02:18:49.209 --> 02:18:53.591
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, the concept has been dead for a while, so, but this just reinforces that.
02:18:54.152 --> 02:18:58.194
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they usually, they are very good at last minute walk up ticket sales.
02:18:58.214 --> 02:19:00.795
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, this show was trending, I mean, it was in the old to a real last year.
02:19:00.815 --> 02:19:04.337
[UNKNOWN]: They sold 18,000 tickets, so that they're barely at 7,000 for their show.
02:19:04.798 --> 02:19:08.300
[UNKNOWN]: With, with says a lot, because there's a lot of New Japan presence where they are.
02:19:08.340 --> 02:19:10.321
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, the dojo is in Los Angeles.
02:19:10.341 --> 02:19:14.683
[UNKNOWN]: There's a big heavy wrestling presence in California, then I'm moving tickets.
02:19:15.504 --> 02:19:15.664
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:19:16.642 --> 02:19:18.683
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, I mean, not like they were last year.
02:19:18.703 --> 02:19:18.983
[UNKNOWN]: No.
02:19:19.444 --> 02:19:26.888
[UNKNOWN]: Because there's nothing really about the card that, it doesn't have that like one big dream match attraction.
02:19:27.709 --> 02:19:33.012
[UNKNOWN]: Like I think we had the first ever Brian Daniel Centro Codabatch was that not it forbidden door?
02:19:33.072 --> 02:19:33.912
[UNKNOWN]: And was that forbidden door?
02:19:33.952 --> 02:19:34.092
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:19:34.573 --> 02:19:40.736
[UNKNOWN]: That was like, okay, that's, that's what a lot of people that would have been like of this big dream match.
02:19:40.756 --> 02:19:40.977
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:19:40.997 --> 02:19:42.337
[UNKNOWN]: Like that was the big attraction.
02:19:42.357 --> 02:19:44.519
[UNKNOWN]: You don't have anything like that on this show.
02:19:45.360 --> 02:19:46.361
[UNKNOWN]: So I think that hurts it.
02:19:47.262 --> 02:19:57.413
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, I mean, I just think when you look at the card, if there's going to be like a big shocking thing, again, outside of maybe Maya beating Mercedes, I think it would come in that women's title match.
02:19:58.034 --> 02:20:04.180
[UNKNOWN]: Because I think if Teclas Run doesn't end on Sunday, I think it's, I think it's ending before we get to Wembley anyway.
02:20:05.101 --> 02:20:11.869
[UNKNOWN]: Um, but I could absolutely see Starlight kid winning that championship as the bridge to get it to Mercedes.
02:20:12.249 --> 02:20:16.173
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just having a tough time wrapping my head around them doing Mercedes and Techlet to heels.
02:20:16.834 --> 02:20:17.595
[UNKNOWN]: You know what all in.
02:20:17.715 --> 02:20:17.955
[UNKNOWN]: I just.
02:20:18.356 --> 02:20:20.278
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so I saw someone in the chat say that too.
02:20:20.298 --> 02:20:21.579
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's not going to stop him.
02:20:21.619 --> 02:20:25.383
[UNKNOWN]: He's done that before, but I just, I think it's unlikely.
02:20:25.643 --> 02:20:26.865
[UNKNOWN]: I think she drops it before then.
02:20:27.613 --> 02:20:29.873
[UNKNOWN]: All right, well, we'll see that play out.
02:20:29.914 --> 02:20:35.955
[UNKNOWN]: I may have to buy this guy at Crystal Ball for the next stream if his his his prediction becomes a reality.
02:20:36.175 --> 02:20:37.995
[UNKNOWN]: I'm looking at the last forbidden door shows.
02:20:38.015 --> 02:20:39.475
[UNKNOWN]: Last year wasn't even all that good either.
02:20:40.096 --> 02:20:44.737
[UNKNOWN]: I'm looking at 2023 now to see what really big matches they had.
02:20:45.557 --> 02:20:48.017
[UNKNOWN]: Mariah May defeated Sarayan 23.
02:20:49.257 --> 02:20:50.958
[UNKNOWN]: Lucia brothers versus
02:20:53.360 --> 02:20:53.920
[UNKNOWN]: What was this?
02:20:54.000 --> 02:20:59.922
[UNKNOWN]: No, this was Lucha Brothers in Mystico against Yota Suji Teton and Takahashi.
02:21:00.602 --> 02:21:11.185
[UNKNOWN]: M. Jefferson, Hatches Sarro, Ryan Danielson versus Shingo Takagi, Tony Stone versus Mina, Zach Saber, Juni's Russell Orange Cassie.
02:21:11.205 --> 02:21:12.666
[UNKNOWN]: I remember that being a good match actually.
02:21:13.586 --> 02:21:15.387
[UNKNOWN]: Mercedes versus Stephanie Vicarita.
02:21:15.427 --> 02:21:16.247
[UNKNOWN]: That was a big match.
02:21:17.227 --> 02:21:18.788
[UNKNOWN]: And then I'll spray versus Swerve.
02:21:19.009 --> 02:21:20.270
[UNKNOWN]: This was a pretty decent show.
02:21:20.330 --> 02:21:24.013
[UNKNOWN]: I will admit this this version from a bit in there probably the last good one, honestly.
02:21:24.754 --> 02:21:25.595
[UNKNOWN]: Was that two years ago?
02:21:25.635 --> 02:21:25.855
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:21:26.395 --> 02:21:26.576
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:21:27.416 --> 02:21:35.744
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you know, you don't you don't get that nowadays and we're going to run through this car rapid fire style because there really isn't a lot coming into this.
02:21:44.008 --> 02:21:47.191
[UNKNOWN]: I'm assuming the divine dominion ladies will retain their titles.
02:21:47.832 --> 02:21:48.152
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
02:21:48.692 --> 02:21:50.674
[UNKNOWN]: That's on the way to save that for the brawling birds.
02:21:50.834 --> 02:21:51.114
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
02:21:51.395 --> 02:21:51.675
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
02:21:51.795 --> 02:21:52.235
[UNKNOWN]: I agree.
02:21:53.477 --> 02:22:04.967
[UNKNOWN]: Coping cage will defend the tag team titles against David Finley and Clark Conner's the dogs will pitstop before the box ends when we stay in my room, right?
02:22:05.928 --> 02:22:06.428
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, yes.
02:22:06.488 --> 02:22:08.550
[UNKNOWN]: They will be putting the dogs down.
02:22:08.851 --> 02:22:09.331
[UNKNOWN]: That's not it.
02:22:10.462 --> 02:22:10.922
[UNKNOWN]: There you go.
02:22:11.343 --> 02:22:19.270
[UNKNOWN]: Speaking of the box, they will be together against L sky team, Mystico, a masquerade de rata versus unbound, Schingo and T Tom.
02:22:21.251 --> 02:22:22.092
[UNKNOWN]: Gotta go young bucks.
02:22:22.512 --> 02:22:22.853
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
02:22:23.093 --> 02:22:24.154
[UNKNOWN]: Three-way tech team match.
02:22:24.254 --> 02:22:25.795
[UNKNOWN]: That I guess I got added on collision.
02:22:25.815 --> 02:22:28.818
[UNKNOWN]: I don't remember that being a part of the card on Wednesday's Diamond last week.
02:22:29.539 --> 02:22:34.363
[UNKNOWN]: What was made last week was John Moxley defending the Continental title against Bandito.
02:22:35.608 --> 02:22:54.335
[UNKNOWN]: Pantheon's fantastic is my favorite luchia in the entire world right now uh... i can't imagine this being a bad match Jason but he will fall in the drama can't imagine this being a title change either now now john moxie will retain the continental championship what do you think moxie does that at all in any any idea swirf maybe
02:22:55.791 --> 02:22:56.331
[UNKNOWN]: Like I'd see that.
02:22:57.252 --> 02:22:57.713
[UNKNOWN]: Like I'd see that.
02:22:58.814 --> 02:22:59.414
[UNKNOWN]: Have we done that?
02:22:59.454 --> 02:23:00.535
[UNKNOWN]: We haven't done that?
02:23:00.996 --> 02:23:01.596
[UNKNOWN]: I don't believe so.
02:23:01.816 --> 02:23:02.016
[UNKNOWN]: Wow.
02:23:02.937 --> 02:23:05.760
[UNKNOWN]: Surprising they haven't matched that they haven't run yet.
02:23:06.060 --> 02:23:07.281
[UNKNOWN]: It's crazy.
02:23:07.401 --> 02:23:08.862
[UNKNOWN]: Show the umino versus pack.
02:23:08.962 --> 02:23:11.845
[UNKNOWN]: This will be for the IWGP Global Heavyweight Championship.
02:23:12.912 --> 02:23:21.202
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Umu know, just won that title from Andrade in a three way at their dominion show last weekend is first championship.
02:23:21.743 --> 02:23:23.465
[UNKNOWN]: He's one of their like younger guys.
02:23:23.505 --> 02:23:26.089
[UNKNOWN]: You, they figure is going to be a big deal down the road.
02:23:26.790 --> 02:23:27.971
[UNKNOWN]: So this was his first title.
02:23:27.991 --> 02:23:28.812
[UNKNOWN]: He just won it.
02:23:29.673 --> 02:23:30.935
[UNKNOWN]: He ain't dropping it to pack.
02:23:31.545 --> 02:23:34.987
[UNKNOWN]: I got to ask what happened with the IWGP world title.
02:23:35.127 --> 02:23:36.368
[UNKNOWN]: I come in, it's not on their show.
02:23:36.788 --> 02:23:40.690
[UNKNOWN]: Who's the champion and why did he not want to defend the title?
02:23:41.051 --> 02:23:45.653
[UNKNOWN]: He said that he does not want to that title to be defended outside of New Japan.
02:23:46.214 --> 02:23:46.574
[UNKNOWN]: Good for him.
02:23:48.355 --> 02:23:49.115
[UNKNOWN]: Can't disagree with him.
02:23:49.716 --> 02:23:50.316
[UNKNOWN]: Simple as that.
02:23:50.876 --> 02:23:53.518
[UNKNOWN]: It's hard to tell like when he gives these interviews.
02:23:54.688 --> 02:24:02.232
[UNKNOWN]: kind of where K-Faybens, how genuine is he being, and how much of it is meant to be K-Fayb?
02:24:02.952 --> 02:24:14.899
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's kind of a mix of both, because he's made that comment before, but yeah, that was something that he evidently made the decision, like I'm not defending this championship on this show.
02:24:15.478 --> 02:24:18.961
[UNKNOWN]: Good for him to be defended on the Japanese soil.
02:24:19.401 --> 02:24:28.888
[UNKNOWN]: I stand by his decision is he, we all know Tony Khan did not like evil when he was with New Japan is he on the same list as evil with Tony Khan do thing.
02:24:31.330 --> 02:24:32.932
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, no, no, okay.
02:24:32.972 --> 02:24:37.215
[UNKNOWN]: I don't, I mean, they're like, evil's kind of in his own category there.
02:24:38.302 --> 02:24:53.976
[UNKNOWN]: evil but it only consigns everybody yeah fact that he didn't want evil off he must really not like this guy now will uh... evil now in the niraku one and next is wrestling uh... twenty twenty the angel of the next he will title on uh... on bread american bash
02:24:55.050 --> 02:25:01.876
[UNKNOWN]: So moxley bandito umano and pack tackle of her star like kid Jason thinks there'll be a title change I actually like what you laid out.
02:25:02.116 --> 02:25:18.270
[UNKNOWN]: I wasn't even thinking that's but I will agree with you in this aspect Tecla has done a fantastic job of Legitimately making this truly feel like a forbidden door match where I haven't gotten a sense of any of that up and down the rest of this card
02:25:19.316 --> 02:25:24.677
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I just feel like start a, we'll get a measure of revenge here with a win over.
02:25:25.017 --> 02:25:26.237
[UNKNOWN]: All right, we'll keep an eye on that.
02:25:26.677 --> 02:25:28.958
[UNKNOWN]: It's a pretty balsy creative decision there.
02:25:28.978 --> 02:25:31.678
[UNKNOWN]: But we'll see if Jason's prediction plays out Mercedes.
02:25:31.738 --> 02:25:34.979
[UNKNOWN]: My world, we talked about that Jason laid it out.
02:25:34.999 --> 02:25:38.279
[UNKNOWN]: He thinks Maya is going to win the final of the Owen.
02:25:38.399 --> 02:25:42.800
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going Mercedes, but stranger thinks have happened for sure.
02:25:48.456 --> 02:25:50.097
[UNKNOWN]: and we haven't really touched upon this.
02:25:50.137 --> 02:25:52.939
[UNKNOWN]: We'll talk about this big main event that they have in the still cage.
02:25:54.080 --> 02:26:02.345
[UNKNOWN]: I think we're both assuming that Omega will get past Zach Sabre Jr. and then with what we've seen play out on television with him and his discussions with Osprey.
02:26:02.765 --> 02:26:06.267
[UNKNOWN]: Do you still feel up until up until where we are right now?
02:26:06.307 --> 02:26:10.810
[UNKNOWN]: That Kenny Omega is going to be MJF's opponent at Redemption?
02:26:10.970 --> 02:26:11.490
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.
02:26:11.510 --> 02:26:11.951
[UNKNOWN]: Redemption.
02:26:11.971 --> 02:26:12.191
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
02:26:12.511 --> 02:26:12.911
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
02:26:12.991 --> 02:26:13.552
[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
02:26:17.805 --> 02:26:20.389
[UNKNOWN]: I think it was the opening segment, maybe, on Wednesday.
02:26:21.130 --> 02:26:27.259
[UNKNOWN]: When they had MJF backstage being interviewed and all the members of the Calis family were behind him.
02:26:27.279 --> 02:26:28.601
[UNKNOWN]: And was it in that promo?
02:26:28.641 --> 02:26:32.546
[UNKNOWN]: He dropped a couple of redemption references I think when it came to Omega.
02:26:33.923 --> 02:26:41.408
[UNKNOWN]: I was like, okay, now they're just like rolling it in your face now, you know, so like it's it absolutely.
02:26:42.028 --> 02:26:48.773
[UNKNOWN]: That's why I say like, oh, Megan needs to be Zack Sabre Jr. here if he's going to be in the line next for a world title measure, makes no sense for him to lose.
02:26:50.978 --> 02:26:53.399
[UNKNOWN]: So can you make over Zack Saber that's an easy one there.
02:26:53.459 --> 02:26:57.240
[UNKNOWN]: I don't I don't really find anything Read the Azac Saber is a great wrestler, but he's not for me.
02:26:57.440 --> 02:26:58.140
[UNKNOWN]: That's all I'll say.
02:26:58.701 --> 02:27:02.942
[UNKNOWN]: Not not my cup of key cup of coffee Well, I'll spray versus Swerve.
02:27:02.962 --> 02:27:08.604
[UNKNOWN]: This is what I'm looking forward to most they wrestled back in 2024, but then it was for the AW World Championship
02:27:09.552 --> 02:27:28.427
[UNKNOWN]: uh... osprey uh... fell there as swerve was continuing his run as world champion uh... it will be the opposite way this time osprey is going to all in he will win the world championship at wimbly stadium in his country in front of his friends and family and uh... they've already said that they're gonna put on
02:27:29.508 --> 02:27:32.232
[UNKNOWN]: A better match that they did in 2024 and I believe them.
02:27:32.632 --> 02:27:40.883
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, if there's two guys in this company that have fight forever feel Jason to me, I feel like it's swarve and hangmen and then the other one would be swarve and we'll ask for it.
02:27:40.903 --> 02:27:42.465
[UNKNOWN]: I think they work tremendously well together.
02:27:42.665 --> 02:27:43.927
[UNKNOWN]: I'm obviously going to ask for it here.
02:27:44.636 --> 02:27:49.738
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and I like the callbacks and their promos wednesday, I like that.
02:27:49.758 --> 02:28:09.926
[UNKNOWN]: I thought that was very effective because a lot of times you get these face to faces or a contract signing and it's like, you know, it's just, there's really nothing special about them, but at least here it felt like they were both making valid points, you know, Osprey brought up boy, you know, when all these guys were trying to get into the cage to save me from getting my neck broken, I saw Kenny Omega.
02:28:10.946 --> 02:28:16.673
[UNKNOWN]: And I like how he poked fun at Darby like Darby can climb Mount Everest, but he can't climb a cage.
02:28:16.914 --> 02:28:20.118
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I remember I remember going off on that and my review last year.
02:28:21.399 --> 02:28:22.601
[UNKNOWN]: But he goes, oh, Swarve.
02:28:22.901 --> 02:28:23.762
[UNKNOWN]: There was no Swarve.
02:28:23.822 --> 02:28:24.423
[UNKNOWN]: Where were you?
02:28:25.264 --> 02:28:26.666
[UNKNOWN]: And so they were going back and forth.
02:28:26.706 --> 02:28:28.288
[UNKNOWN]: I thought that was that was good stuff.
02:28:28.738 --> 02:28:31.020
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that was easily the best segment last week.
02:28:31.080 --> 02:28:33.723
[UNKNOWN]: I showed what they did together as well.
02:28:33.863 --> 02:28:38.147
[UNKNOWN]: And then the main event here for forbidden door, which show.
02:28:38.167 --> 02:28:39.408
[UNKNOWN]: Let me ask you this before you go to that.
02:28:39.488 --> 02:28:41.350
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I know we're about to talk about MJF.
02:28:41.510 --> 02:28:50.319
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, if we are correct and it is Omega and MJF redemption and Omega beats them to win the championship.
02:28:51.711 --> 02:28:56.474
[UNKNOWN]: Are we thinking that it's going to be aspirin Omega one on one?
02:28:57.495 --> 02:29:05.900
[UNKNOWN]: And that they may be bring back hangman and they do hangman mjf on the undercard or or triple threat for the world championship.
02:29:06.060 --> 02:29:09.062
[UNKNOWN]: I have no interest in seeing another hangman mjf match personally.
02:29:09.602 --> 02:29:11.744
[UNKNOWN]: I would rather mjf because he's been being triple threat.
02:29:11.804 --> 02:29:19.989
[UNKNOWN]: He's been dropping a lot of hangman references in his promos too and laughing at him and saying, oh, yeah, I'm not like hangman who can't ever challenge again for the championship.
02:29:20.569 --> 02:29:27.733
[UNKNOWN]: So it just feels to me like, okay, those are there for a reason and they're building to something of Hangman.
02:29:27.913 --> 02:29:29.934
[UNKNOWN]: You would think he would be back in time for that show.
02:29:31.915 --> 02:29:41.099
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, there's always the idea that I floated previously, which is, you know, he could be a surprise in the gauntlet and that's kind of his work around to getting a world title shot again.
02:29:41.179 --> 02:29:42.960
[UNKNOWN]: But if they're not going to do that,
02:29:43.700 --> 02:29:46.961
[UNKNOWN]: I, I'm thinking maybe on the undercard, they just do mjf and hang them.
02:29:46.981 --> 02:29:51.563
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not sure if it would just be a straight singles match or if there would be some sort of stipulation.
02:29:51.583 --> 02:29:54.124
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's tough because the last time we saw them in the ring together.
02:29:55.164 --> 02:29:56.044
[UNKNOWN]: They did everything.
02:29:57.385 --> 02:29:59.005
[UNKNOWN]: They had, they had a Texas death match, dude.
02:29:59.065 --> 02:30:01.546
[UNKNOWN]: Like what, what would be left for them to do to each other?
02:30:01.566 --> 02:30:03.247
[UNKNOWN]: Now, they, they tried to murder each other.
02:30:03.427 --> 02:30:04.087
[UNKNOWN]: I have no interest.
02:30:05.933 --> 02:30:15.817
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I'm not deviating away from the original plan, which should be MJF and Osprey, but I guess after everything we've gotten so far, we're going in a completely different direction, so.
02:30:16.037 --> 02:30:20.979
[UNKNOWN]: I would rather be a triple threat with Omega and Osprey, but I don't even think we're going there.
02:30:21.059 --> 02:30:22.159
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sticking to my guns.
02:30:22.199 --> 02:30:25.080
[UNKNOWN]: I think we're getting fully in MJF at all and sadly.
02:30:27.349 --> 02:30:28.690
[UNKNOWN]: Foley's not going to be a forbidden door.
02:30:28.730 --> 02:30:31.352
[UNKNOWN]: He's got a comedy thing to go to.
02:30:31.392 --> 02:30:32.412
[UNKNOWN]: He's got commitments there.
02:30:33.353 --> 02:30:41.558
[UNKNOWN]: And Tony, Tony has kind of indirectly said, well, Mike would love to be a redemption of Montreal, so you know, he's going to be there.
02:30:41.919 --> 02:30:43.520
[UNKNOWN]: It's not going to outwardly come out and say it.
02:30:44.060 --> 02:30:45.421
[UNKNOWN]: But this is the main event.
02:30:45.481 --> 02:30:49.344
[UNKNOWN]: I could see the main event with Osprey and Swarve, as well if they want to do this.
02:30:49.364 --> 02:30:50.985
[UNKNOWN]: This really doesn't feel like a main event to me.
02:30:51.025 --> 02:30:55.508
[UNKNOWN]: I could care less about this still-case stipulation or the stipulation with more press-go needing to beat M.J.F.
02:30:56.308 --> 02:31:00.489
[UNKNOWN]: How did you feel about them giving basically this man in a way on Dynamite last week, just with the 12-man tag?
02:31:00.509 --> 02:31:01.189
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't like that at all.
02:31:01.529 --> 02:31:06.811
[UNKNOWN]: Well, they did it because they wanted to give the heels a win because team briskos are going to win at the paper view.
02:31:07.151 --> 02:31:07.291
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
02:31:07.311 --> 02:31:07.911
[UNKNOWN]: They have to win.
02:31:07.931 --> 02:31:10.852
[UNKNOWN]: Well, they could have did that without having it beat a 12-man tag.
02:31:11.412 --> 02:31:14.133
[UNKNOWN]: Of course, but you know, okay.
02:31:14.153 --> 02:31:15.293
[UNKNOWN]: Let's give them a dash away.
02:31:15.313 --> 02:31:17.474
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, let's just give the match away anyway.
02:31:17.594 --> 02:31:17.794
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:31:18.554 --> 02:31:19.954
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, I wasn't a fan of that.
02:31:19.994 --> 02:31:21.695
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not a fan of doing this match.
02:31:22.992 --> 02:31:24.853
[UNKNOWN]: It may end up being a really good match.
02:31:25.193 --> 02:31:27.873
[UNKNOWN]: I wasn't even that enamored with the cage match last year either.
02:31:28.574 --> 02:31:39.477
[UNKNOWN]: So the fact they're coming back again this year and doing another big cluster-fuck cage match like this, I'm just not a fan of it, again, I can understand if MJF is not 100%.
02:31:41.183 --> 02:31:43.325
[UNKNOWN]: You saw his leg was all wrapped up on Wednesday.
02:31:43.345 --> 02:31:44.606
[UNKNOWN]: He was wrestling.
02:31:45.047 --> 02:31:48.731
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he looked fine, but if they want to do this is a way to protect him.
02:31:48.831 --> 02:31:50.833
[UNKNOWN]: So there's 11 other guys in there.
02:31:50.853 --> 02:31:51.974
[UNKNOWN]: He doesn't have to do as much.
02:31:52.034 --> 02:31:52.534
[UNKNOWN]: I get it.
02:31:52.835 --> 02:31:57.920
[UNKNOWN]: I understand it and look, I'll say this even though I'm not a big fan of it.
02:31:59.257 --> 02:32:03.239
[UNKNOWN]: The one thing I do like is that there's a lot of different stories going into this match.
02:32:03.459 --> 02:32:05.980
[UNKNOWN]: So you have MJF and brisco, they don't like each other.
02:32:06.500 --> 02:32:09.401
[UNKNOWN]: Undraughty doesn't like MJF either, right?
02:32:09.501 --> 02:32:12.603
[UNKNOWN]: Neither does Kyle Fletcher, but Kyle Fletcher is in there also with Takeshda.
02:32:13.383 --> 02:32:15.324
[UNKNOWN]: And Darby Allen is in there with Kevin Knight.
02:32:15.564 --> 02:32:21.467
[UNKNOWN]: And so you have all of these different feuds that are sort of blending together like this.
02:32:22.427 --> 02:32:24.208
[UNKNOWN]: So I like that at least.
02:32:25.267 --> 02:32:30.690
[UNKNOWN]: But you're just, again, you're just taking 12 guys and pointing them at a cage and I don't know.
02:32:31.251 --> 02:32:32.892
[UNKNOWN]: It just feels lazy to me.
02:32:33.872 --> 02:32:35.193
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not a big fan of it to me.
02:32:35.213 --> 02:32:37.815
[UNKNOWN]: The real main event of this show is Osprey and Swarve.
02:32:38.915 --> 02:32:39.916
[UNKNOWN]: As far as I'm concerned.
02:32:41.137 --> 02:32:45.619
[UNKNOWN]: And we know that briskos team has to win because he's got to get his championship match.
02:32:46.320 --> 02:32:50.262
[UNKNOWN]: So I think that's why they did what they did with MJF's team winning.
02:32:50.282 --> 02:32:51.863
[UNKNOWN]: That's how Dynamite went off the air, right?
02:32:51.903 --> 02:32:54.585
[UNKNOWN]: All the heels were celebrating and posing.
02:32:55.546 --> 02:32:57.649
[UNKNOWN]: and it's not going to be that way on Sunday.
02:32:57.789 --> 02:33:07.983
[UNKNOWN]: Well, you, um, you talked about it last week here on TNT that, uh, and we both discussed that brisco and mjf could have made an event to this show, but they've opted to do this instead.
02:33:08.083 --> 02:33:12.108
[UNKNOWN]: Now, if brisco does get a championship match, which we're both thinking he will.
02:33:12.789 --> 02:33:34.914
[UNKNOWN]: uh... that uh... beach break show and uh... work clear water florida believe it is uh... they've already booked jaren go versus champ for that show so i'm assuming that will be a great place to do it now with this tension with andraughty which is the most interesting of all the tensions here for mjf and the world championship when do you think they do that match because redemption's happening in july that have to get that done before that no
02:33:38.517 --> 02:33:41.959
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, he wants it once a month, unless it doesn't matter that it's MJF.
02:33:41.999 --> 02:33:42.679
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe it's Omega.
02:33:43.740 --> 02:33:46.561
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it could be Omega because remember, I'm Drate Bito Mega.
02:33:46.781 --> 02:33:48.242
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, earlier this year.
02:33:49.402 --> 02:33:49.582
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:33:49.822 --> 02:33:52.984
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he beat Omega and so you could run it back Omega beats in this time.
02:33:53.004 --> 02:33:57.666
[UNKNOWN]: They get that arena Mexico show is not until August fifth, I believe.
02:33:57.826 --> 02:33:58.026
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:33:58.806 --> 02:34:02.028
[UNKNOWN]: So the timing wouldn't work out with MJF.
02:34:02.288 --> 02:34:03.448
[UNKNOWN]: I'll tell you what I can see though.
02:34:04.249 --> 02:34:06.930
[UNKNOWN]: If I think we're both assuming team brisco wins.
02:34:08.427 --> 02:34:19.295
[UNKNOWN]: on dry day factoring into the finish and basically costing mjf's team the win that i could see i could see them and then goodbye goodbye uh... him being in the dark house family
02:34:20.962 --> 02:34:23.664
[UNKNOWN]: I mean he's got one foot out the door already anyway.
02:34:23.684 --> 02:34:29.767
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if it would be right away or if they would still build to it But yeah, I mean that seems to be the direction they're going in anyway.
02:34:29.788 --> 02:34:30.548
[UNKNOWN]: We'll be coming back.
02:34:30.568 --> 02:34:31.649
[UNKNOWN]: Who do they replace him with then?
02:34:32.089 --> 02:34:33.970
[UNKNOWN]: You know he's gonna want her replacement to replace.
02:34:34.010 --> 02:34:35.031
[UNKNOWN]: Well, it's about that time.
02:34:35.091 --> 02:34:37.312
[UNKNOWN]: I would think Wardlow would be back very soon.
02:34:37.332 --> 02:34:42.195
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they get him back There's always gonna be somebody new to add to the Don Calus family
02:34:43.315 --> 02:34:49.697
[UNKNOWN]: believe me, they're just it's like a fucking, you know, like an manufacturing plant to whatever and they have the assembly line.
02:34:49.717 --> 02:34:53.898
[UNKNOWN]: There's always going to be some new part that they can add to the group.
02:34:54.598 --> 02:34:58.880
[UNKNOWN]: This is what Tony does, you know, when he has a new heel, he wants to get over, just put him with Dom Calus.
02:34:59.220 --> 02:35:00.120
[UNKNOWN]: Exactly what he does.
02:35:00.580 --> 02:35:05.762
[UNKNOWN]: Hopefully, I'm Jeff is all right with the hybrids, then the knee he was wrestling on Wednesday if he got in there and he got
02:35:06.562 --> 02:35:09.965
[UNKNOWN]: couple minutes of action the way that he did, uh, hopefully not a serious.
02:35:10.626 --> 02:35:11.927
[UNKNOWN]: Not too worried about his name.
02:35:11.947 --> 02:35:14.429
[UNKNOWN]: I'm I'm more worried about uh, rear Ripley's name.
02:35:15.049 --> 02:35:15.970
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:35:16.030 --> 02:35:17.391
[UNKNOWN]: Very quiet about that injury.
02:35:17.572 --> 02:35:18.152
[UNKNOWN]: Very quiet.
02:35:19.053 --> 02:35:29.802
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, so Team Briscoe is Mark Briscoe, Orange Cassie, Robert Schroen, Kyle O'Reilly, Kanozki to Keshe and Darby Allen versus M. J. F. Kevin Knight Kyle Flutter, Jake Doyle, who probably is there to take the pin more than likely.
02:35:30.543 --> 02:35:31.744
[UNKNOWN]: O'Kala and Orange Roddy.
02:35:32.988 --> 02:35:44.876
[UNKNOWN]: That's the match team brisco will win brisco will get a championship match when we'll find out at a later date But that is you were forbidden door 2026 happening on Sunday.
02:35:45.537 --> 02:35:49.019
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know where I'll be Well, I'm watching slam a verse for you or forbidden door.
02:35:49.039 --> 02:35:55.984
[UNKNOWN]: I haven't decided yet, but more than likely it'll end up being a w With that is all we got for you TNT 152 in the books.
02:35:56.184 --> 02:36:01.969
[UNKNOWN]: We're gonna hit the super chats in just a second I want to thank you guys for joining us here on Tuesday nights
02:36:02.858 --> 02:36:05.960
[UNKNOWN]: You guys want to get in and get those super chats in.
02:36:06.000 --> 02:36:07.801
[UNKNOWN]: They will remain open until the end of the show.
02:36:08.742 --> 02:36:10.923
[UNKNOWN]: We need 17 more likes for 800.
02:36:11.003 --> 02:36:14.305
[UNKNOWN]: If you guys are in the chat and haven't hit the thumbs up, please do that.
02:36:14.765 --> 02:36:18.487
[UNKNOWN]: If you guys are watching after the fact leave a comment, let us know what you thought of tonight's show.
02:36:19.128 --> 02:36:22.930
[UNKNOWN]: Time stamps, they'll be as soon as the video publishes to YouTube.
02:36:23.110 --> 02:36:25.432
[UNKNOWN]: They will be in the description as they have been all month.
02:36:26.152 --> 02:36:49.934
[UNKNOWN]: uh... hopefully you guys are finding them very useful and if you guys want to follow Jason on social media and on youtube everything you need for him is linked down below in the description to get to the super chance and we'll start at the top here with michael crowds to all super chat jd jsono tst and t all gas no breaks with it yeah thank you michael
02:36:51.579 --> 02:36:59.753
[UNKNOWN]: Carcore Kevin with a five your JD Jason if Chad Gable doesn't face Pant at SummerSlam You guys got to do the one ship challenge on stream.
02:36:59.833 --> 02:37:02.157
[UNKNOWN]: What the fuck is that really who who says?
02:37:04.182 --> 02:37:04.722
[UNKNOWN]: What is that?
02:37:04.963 --> 02:37:06.283
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, one ship jai is a hot ship?
02:37:06.303 --> 02:37:07.384
[UNKNOWN]: You don't know what the one ship jai is?
02:37:07.404 --> 02:37:08.085
[UNKNOWN]: No, I do not.
02:37:08.845 --> 02:37:11.307
[UNKNOWN]: So they make these, it's like these ghost pepper chips.
02:37:11.347 --> 02:37:12.107
[UNKNOWN]: It's like one ship.
02:37:12.327 --> 02:37:12.788
[UNKNOWN]: Fucking good.
02:37:12.968 --> 02:37:13.988
[UNKNOWN]: Super fucking hot.
02:37:14.989 --> 02:37:16.770
[UNKNOWN]: And it's literally one ship.
02:37:16.810 --> 02:37:20.412
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, people, they'll take it out of the bag and like, we're a glove when they do it.
02:37:20.432 --> 02:37:22.774
[UNKNOWN]: It's like a little like, yeah.
02:37:23.534 --> 02:37:24.335
[UNKNOWN]: That's not happening.
02:37:24.375 --> 02:37:26.997
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna decline.
02:37:27.037 --> 02:37:28.998
[UNKNOWN]: I like spicy, but I have a limit.
02:37:30.459 --> 02:37:38.004
[UNKNOWN]: Cody Snyder with a fifty months in the other way that reminds me and we're talking about One ship challenge and made me think of hot ones.
02:37:38.545 --> 02:37:40.626
[UNKNOWN]: You watch hot ones.
02:37:40.846 --> 02:37:46.250
[UNKNOWN]: I have watched a few hot ones, yes Do you know who the the host is now dating?
02:37:47.711 --> 02:37:54.596
[UNKNOWN]: I do not know Kiki Palmer Really some people yeah, yeah, okay, yeah
02:37:55.488 --> 02:38:01.713
[UNKNOWN]: She was a guest on his show at one point and apparently he had like a huge crush on her and now they're dating.
02:38:02.013 --> 02:38:02.814
[UNKNOWN]: He shot his shot.
02:38:02.874 --> 02:38:03.395
[UNKNOWN]: Oh look at that.
02:38:03.975 --> 02:38:04.435
[UNKNOWN]: Good for him.
02:38:05.256 --> 02:38:05.616
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
02:38:06.097 --> 02:38:06.957
[UNKNOWN]: Good for him.
02:38:06.997 --> 02:38:08.138
[UNKNOWN]: The lesson learned there, Chad.
02:38:08.158 --> 02:38:10.620
[UNKNOWN]: If you want to, you want something shoot your shot.
02:38:10.640 --> 02:38:13.002
[UNKNOWN]: You never know what's going to come back at you.
02:38:13.082 --> 02:38:13.363
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
02:38:13.403 --> 02:38:16.025
[UNKNOWN]: I wish I knew that all those years ago when I was nice.
02:38:16.045 --> 02:38:16.265
[UNKNOWN]: What?
02:38:16.685 --> 02:38:20.869
[UNKNOWN]: Well, they say you miss 100% of the shots that you don't take.
02:38:20.929 --> 02:38:21.569
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, you do.
02:38:21.669 --> 02:38:22.190
[UNKNOWN]: Look at that.
02:38:23.850 --> 02:38:25.231
[UNKNOWN]: All right, hardcore Kevin.
02:38:25.331 --> 02:38:26.692
[UNKNOWN]: No one ship challenge.
02:38:26.712 --> 02:38:32.416
[UNKNOWN]: If you guys want to see hot ones Jesse that hot ones Shreem a few months ago, and he was paying very heavily for it.
02:38:32.457 --> 02:38:37.540
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't I don't see myself doing the same thing Cody 50 months.
02:38:37.560 --> 02:38:38.041
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, brother.
02:38:38.641 --> 02:38:40.743
[UNKNOWN]: Couple more weeks and we should have punk back.
02:38:41.423 --> 02:38:47.067
[UNKNOWN]: I hope so Fucking company absolutely need to see him punk, but the man's on vacation getting swallowed apparently
02:38:53.785 --> 02:38:56.527
[UNKNOWN]: What's that being 19 years since the Benoit tragedy?
02:38:57.127 --> 02:39:00.649
[UNKNOWN]: Have the policies implemented been a net positive for the industry?
02:39:01.209 --> 02:39:04.171
[UNKNOWN]: What's his view of EG on healthy?
02:39:07.353 --> 02:39:08.134
[UNKNOWN]: I'll let you answer that one.
02:39:10.215 --> 02:39:14.677
[UNKNOWN]: Was his view of Eddie Guerrero on how, like, as far as how close he was to Eddie?
02:39:15.338 --> 02:39:16.358
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think that was on healthy.
02:39:16.378 --> 02:39:17.879
[UNKNOWN]: He just loved Eddie Guerrero, like a brother.
02:39:17.899 --> 02:39:19.020
[UNKNOWN]: Well, there's nothing wrong with that.
02:39:19.707 --> 02:39:44.945
[UNKNOWN]: he it was his best friend you know i mean obviously it had an effect on him so sure i mean i it it fucked with his mind and you could say that that was a little weird I guess the sort of attachment that he had but again people grieve in different ways there were other things going on with him though and his in his brain and his mind though beyond just that so it was just the whole thing was
02:39:46.717 --> 02:39:51.284
[UNKNOWN]: It's just, it's sad to think about if Eddie had not passed away.
02:39:51.885 --> 02:39:55.851
[UNKNOWN]: Here's something I've wondered, like if Eddie Guerrero didn't die when he did in 2005.
02:39:56.772 --> 02:39:58.455
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think the Ben Wall stuff happens in 2007.
02:40:01.679 --> 02:40:02.620
[UNKNOWN]: Certainly what a look at it.
02:40:02.720 --> 02:40:03.861
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's it's possible.
02:40:04.322 --> 02:40:13.530
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they talked about CTE and his brain was all riddled with it and everything, but I don't think things go down the way they did if Eddie is still around.
02:40:13.671 --> 02:40:18.535
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I feel like Eddie was sort of that calming influence on him.
02:40:18.615 --> 02:40:18.796
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:40:19.716 --> 02:40:26.363
[UNKNOWN]: And if he was having issues, he would have turned to him and, you know, we'll never know, but I do wonder about that.
02:40:26.657 --> 02:40:55.905
[UNKNOWN]: are the policies today better than uh... than they were for the industry uh... yeah i think so yeah i mean i i now today's i cringe when someone is dropped on their head uh... it's like one time is you know in a certain way depends on how it's done but cherish seeing a cher shot well there's ways to do it that makes it look you know what the way you need to get your hands up you know but people get dropped on their head from from certain angles and certain moves no i'm glad that uh... that's implemented we don't need that stuff
02:40:56.955 --> 02:40:58.455
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I've lost my jacks with a 499.
02:40:58.956 --> 02:41:01.776
[UNKNOWN]: Chad Gable, new theme resembles Hogan's American Mate theme.
02:41:01.816 --> 02:41:02.756
[UNKNOWN]: It's actually pretty good.
02:41:02.776 --> 02:41:04.417
[UNKNOWN]: I just don't think it's best for his character.
02:41:04.577 --> 02:41:05.777
[UNKNOWN]: I still haven't grown into it.
02:41:07.338 --> 02:41:07.698
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
02:41:07.718 --> 02:41:08.478
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't fit him.
02:41:08.718 --> 02:41:08.858
[UNKNOWN]: No.
02:41:09.218 --> 02:41:11.879
[UNKNOWN]: You might as he came out last night and what he does now when he comes out.
02:41:11.939 --> 02:41:12.819
[UNKNOWN]: He claps.
02:41:13.079 --> 02:41:13.819
[UNKNOWN]: He goes like, yeah.
02:41:14.279 --> 02:41:16.320
[UNKNOWN]: He claps, but he's trying to get the crowd into it.
02:41:17.700 --> 02:41:20.341
[UNKNOWN]: Is that as long as I had a fucking nickel back on since we were among you?
02:41:22.381 --> 02:41:23.622
[UNKNOWN]: Ah, slight nickel back.
02:41:25.390 --> 02:41:27.271
[UNKNOWN]: Bones of the Crosse was a good song for us, man.
02:41:27.291 --> 02:41:28.871
[UNKNOWN]: That was a good song.
02:41:28.891 --> 02:41:30.252
[UNKNOWN]: Two out of superjacked from the looks of it.
02:41:30.272 --> 02:41:31.272
[UNKNOWN]: The MFTs are no more.
02:41:32.732 --> 02:41:34.793
[UNKNOWN]: We'll see you on Friday.
02:41:34.833 --> 02:41:37.814
[UNKNOWN]: They walked away from Solo, Sakawa on Friday this past week.
02:41:37.854 --> 02:41:40.855
[UNKNOWN]: So we'll see what happens on Friday this coming week.
02:41:40.895 --> 02:41:46.597
[UNKNOWN]: Boss projects with the one I did I will or what will be Tony D. Sealing on the May roster.
02:41:48.877 --> 02:41:49.517
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
02:41:50.098 --> 02:41:50.558
[UNKNOWN]: Midcard.
02:41:51.218 --> 02:41:51.418
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:41:52.805 --> 02:42:00.049
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think there's enough meat on the bone there for a character that's going to get to that level.
02:42:00.430 --> 02:42:04.712
[UNKNOWN]: He's very straight forward, like I don't find that to be all that interesting.
02:42:04.732 --> 02:42:10.435
[UNKNOWN]: For NXT, it's interesting because there's really nobody down there, but for the main roster, it's going to have to be a lot more than that.
02:42:11.676 --> 02:42:21.802
[UNKNOWN]: Michelle, with the 5, when the camera stopped rolling, Triple H has O-Bull mixing it up with the vision, should this be a concern, and how can this bloodline story affect Cody?
02:42:23.173 --> 02:42:50.354
[UNKNOWN]: guys the the the flyer that you saw floating around today on social media was for dark match uh... i'd w does not have the balls to put brown and obert in the same rank together right now the dark match yet that it doesn't mean it doesn't mean no no um... and then the bloodline story had a set of fake codey i don't know they've they've teased certain aspects with codey enrollment for what i don't know i don't know you know if the mft is dissolved
02:42:51.483 --> 02:43:18.464
[UNKNOWN]: We're probably gonna run back a war games match with the bloodline at full shrunk against a band of baby faces to stop the bloodline That's where it's leading and Cody's probably gonna lead the charge I mean how many times have we seen that before games or punk yeah So That's what they're probably going for Joshua over the team Robert Or Robert Mostly have to watch the replay of TNT but getting to watch it live today Look at this, thank you Joshua Hopefully you enjoyed your stay
02:43:20.226 --> 02:43:24.731
[UNKNOWN]: NM with a two think Sean sap still eats corn the long way.
02:43:25.071 --> 02:43:25.392
[UNKNOWN]: I do.
02:43:25.572 --> 02:43:26.613
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I don't know.
02:43:27.554 --> 02:43:31.298
[UNKNOWN]: I'm uh, I'm not really inclined to care how Sean eats his corn.
02:43:31.318 --> 02:43:33.921
[UNKNOWN]: So Carlos with a one-eyed knife.
02:43:34.181 --> 02:43:39.267
[UNKNOWN]: Marvel or DC will you watch Spider-Man brand new day?
02:43:39.327 --> 02:43:41.969
[UNKNOWN]: Marvel For DC
02:43:44.615 --> 02:43:45.315
[UNKNOWN]: I gotta go DC.
02:43:46.196 --> 02:43:55.079
[UNKNOWN]: It's, you know what's funny, like when I was younger and I was more into the comic scene and I collected the cards and everything, it was 100% marble.
02:43:55.259 --> 02:43:56.579
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:43:56.599 --> 02:44:02.721
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I still have a loosely finder somewhere with like in the, you know, the plastic.
02:44:02.781 --> 02:44:03.782
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, leave it in everything.
02:44:05.082 --> 02:44:10.084
[UNKNOWN]: Spiderman cards, silver surfer, Hulk, cable, magneto, like all of it.
02:44:10.524 --> 02:44:12.265
[UNKNOWN]: holograms, everything's in there.
02:44:13.368 --> 02:44:17.331
[UNKNOWN]: Um, but in terms of movies, I probably would lean more DC.
02:44:17.532 --> 02:44:17.832
[UNKNOWN]: Me too.
02:44:18.432 --> 02:44:23.256
[UNKNOWN]: I've seen more Batman related stuff in the last like 10 years and I have any of the Marvel movies.
02:44:23.297 --> 02:44:25.158
[UNKNOWN]: You, you told me to watch that clay-face trail, bro.
02:44:25.178 --> 02:44:26.239
[UNKNOWN]: That sure looks fucking crazy.
02:44:26.499 --> 02:44:29.202
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, it's amazing.
02:44:29.362 --> 02:44:30.663
[UNKNOWN]: I couldn't believe you hadn't seen it.
02:44:30.683 --> 02:44:31.964
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, this thing is incredible.
02:44:32.024 --> 02:44:32.905
[UNKNOWN]: That's just the teaser.
02:44:33.245 --> 02:44:33.545
[UNKNOWN]: I know.
02:44:35.247 --> 02:44:36.308
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, Carlos, thank you, bro.
02:44:36.868 --> 02:44:38.429
[UNKNOWN]: Um, boss, my jacks with the one I know.
02:44:38.449 --> 02:44:40.871
[UNKNOWN]: You guys watching the Supergirl movie this Friday.
02:44:41.132 --> 02:44:41.292
[UNKNOWN]: No.
02:44:42.835 --> 02:44:46.819
[UNKNOWN]: No, that's a a straight to streaming service after two weeks.
02:44:46.859 --> 02:44:47.540
[UNKNOWN]: Probably lost there.
02:44:47.861 --> 02:44:48.922
[UNKNOWN]: It is a movie out.
02:44:49.883 --> 02:44:52.846
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't even know about it until last week and I went to go check.
02:44:52.866 --> 02:44:56.390
[UNKNOWN]: I would have seen it later this week, but my local theater isn't playing it anymore.
02:44:57.351 --> 02:44:58.232
[UNKNOWN]: Called the Furious.
02:45:00.130 --> 02:45:25.231
[UNKNOWN]: And it's getting great reviews, it's like this foreign language martial arts type of action film, or this guy, I don't know the premise, something with his family, and it's just the action sequences and everything apparently are on point and they're really violent, but it's getting great reviews, and I'm like, man, I didn't even hear, I didn't even know about this until like a week ago, and now I'm just gonna have to wait until it comes out on screaming.
02:45:28.715 --> 02:45:50.026
[UNKNOWN]: uh... thank you boss also with a four nine nine your favorite king of the ring winners your favorite seventies and eighties tv shows and sitcoms t and t for life let's go yeah favorite king of the ring winner favorite king of the ring winner bread heart right as uh... definitely number one austenda alwin
02:45:51.717 --> 02:45:53.699
[UNKNOWN]: I went running was great, but it's number one.
02:45:53.799 --> 02:45:54.840
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, come on.
02:45:55.501 --> 02:45:58.705
[UNKNOWN]: Um, my favorite 70 and 80s TV shows.
02:45:59.626 --> 02:46:02.389
[UNKNOWN]: Um, well, 70s is before my time bro 80s.
02:46:02.449 --> 02:46:04.351
[UNKNOWN]: I was too young to even care.
02:46:05.031 --> 02:46:12.039
[UNKNOWN]: Um, well, I mean, look, it was before my time, but I'm pretty sure all like all in the family and the Jefferson's and those those were 70s, right?
02:46:13.086 --> 02:46:40.965
[UNKNOWN]: uh... yeah what uh... well what was that show is company release company yes there's company was fun yeah that had to be late seventies yeah i'll go threes company i'll be jacks ripper guy when i was a kid jacks ripper was great uh... all the family was great i mean you can't you can't uh... recreator archie bunker uh... yeah i'd probably go at those two uh... thank you boss uh... six row with a five what career does a pirate go into when he's done pirating
02:46:42.761 --> 02:46:59.178
[UNKNOWN]: AARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
02:47:07.118 --> 02:47:07.679
[UNKNOWN]: very bad.
02:47:08.339 --> 02:47:10.781
[UNKNOWN]: Dan, were they four night and not had J.D.
02:47:10.821 --> 02:47:15.625
[UNKNOWN]: Jason, I was wondering, who do you guys think has the best theme song between WWE and AEW?
02:47:19.488 --> 02:47:21.229
[UNKNOWN]: CM Punk, M.J.F.
02:47:21.670 --> 02:47:22.490
[UNKNOWN]: Will Osprey.
02:47:24.612 --> 02:47:27.815
[UNKNOWN]: Roan, you know, Roman's theme is pretty badass.
02:47:28.115 --> 02:47:31.338
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the heel one that he went back to, not the the other one.
02:47:31.998 --> 02:47:33.800
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, out of everything, I probably say Adam Coffin.
02:47:37.034 --> 02:47:39.936
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I like, I like Ospreys is good.
02:47:40.057 --> 02:47:40.217
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:47:40.917 --> 02:47:41.618
[UNKNOWN]: I like his.
02:47:42.439 --> 02:47:46.342
[UNKNOWN]: Um... Brian Dawson's is good.
02:47:47.443 --> 02:47:47.563
[UNKNOWN]: Hmm.
02:47:47.603 --> 02:47:50.966
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but it's not, I wouldn't say it's among the best.
02:47:51.186 --> 02:47:52.027
[UNKNOWN]: No.
02:47:52.107 --> 02:47:53.308
[UNKNOWN]: I like any King's system, so.
02:47:54.669 --> 02:47:55.289
[UNKNOWN]: If it's him right away.
02:47:55.349 --> 02:47:57.111
[UNKNOWN]: You're not going to go with Bremode.
02:47:58.812 --> 02:47:59.193
[UNKNOWN]: No.
02:47:59.253 --> 02:48:00.314
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not going to Bremode.
02:48:00.354 --> 02:48:00.554
[UNKNOWN]: No.
02:48:02.335 --> 02:48:02.816
[UNKNOWN]: I'm surprised.
02:48:02.836 --> 02:48:04.457
[UNKNOWN]: Roll model isn't on the list, though.
02:48:06.745 --> 02:48:09.726
[UNKNOWN]: Poor Bailey Zeno with a 50 mini bomb.
02:48:09.746 --> 02:48:31.292
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you Zeno solo hear me out during the triple threat Randy Returns Pumped kicks Cody Samu wins setting up Sammy going through night one Thank Cody versus Randy non-title Obo Beach Jay faces Roman night two ignoring Brock taking out Obo I'll extend this in another dono All right, I'll I'll I'll I'll start at the beginning.
02:48:31.312 --> 02:48:34.853
[UNKNOWN]: Do you see Randy when coming back and having any factor in that made event on Saturday?
02:48:35.755 --> 02:48:36.015
[UNKNOWN]: None.
02:48:36.356 --> 02:48:36.556
[UNKNOWN]: None.
02:48:37.437 --> 02:48:37.797
[UNKNOWN]: Zero.
02:48:38.137 --> 02:48:39.138
[UNKNOWN]: Sammy, go into the night one.
02:48:39.158 --> 02:48:39.639
[UNKNOWN]: Possibility?
02:48:40.119 --> 02:48:40.419
[UNKNOWN]: No.
02:48:40.760 --> 02:48:42.101
[UNKNOWN]: That's not a night one.
02:48:42.121 --> 02:48:43.042
[UNKNOWN]: They don't care me.
02:48:44.543 --> 02:48:44.923
[UNKNOWN]: Oh my god.
02:48:44.943 --> 02:48:46.185
[UNKNOWN]: Main event for night one.
02:48:46.445 --> 02:48:46.605
[UNKNOWN]: No.
02:48:47.105 --> 02:48:48.847
[UNKNOWN]: Cody ran the non-title at SummerSlam.
02:48:49.047 --> 02:48:49.187
[UNKNOWN]: Hmm.
02:48:50.649 --> 02:48:53.091
[UNKNOWN]: I don't even give it shit about any aspect of Cody ran the honestly.
02:48:53.111 --> 02:48:53.892
[UNKNOWN]: I thought we got it.
02:48:55.830 --> 02:48:57.371
[UNKNOWN]: It killed my enthusiasm for it.
02:48:57.431 --> 02:48:59.092
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, absolutely.
02:49:00.212 --> 02:49:01.533
[UNKNOWN]: Zeno, thank you, brother, for the 50.
02:49:02.253 --> 02:49:03.053
[UNKNOWN]: Ah, Citrole, the 5.
02:49:03.434 --> 02:49:08.276
[UNKNOWN]: Did you know Spider-Man has a jacket made of Mediterranean flatbread?
02:49:09.757 --> 02:49:11.858
[UNKNOWN]: It's a PETA PARCA.
02:49:14.179 --> 02:49:17.100
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I got it.
02:49:17.120 --> 02:49:18.841
[UNKNOWN]: You suck!
02:49:23.684 --> 02:49:28.308
[UNKNOWN]: Yep, yep, and he says cooked a steak, but it fell on the ground.
02:49:29.169 --> 02:49:30.930
[UNKNOWN]: Now it's ground beef.
02:49:36.255 --> 02:49:41.299
[UNKNOWN]: All right, I thought that was better than the round one, so uh zero with a 20.
02:49:41.619 --> 02:49:43.081
[UNKNOWN]: Can't see anything from the last super chat.
02:49:44.021 --> 02:49:48.525
[UNKNOWN]: I said ignoring Brock taking out open because shady as you said in the past, it's Brock Lesard.
02:49:48.585 --> 02:49:50.207
[UNKNOWN]: He already said it's one on a one,
02:49:51.403 --> 02:49:53.885
[UNKNOWN]: What if he doesn't want a third match because of the fact?
02:49:54.765 --> 02:49:55.546
[UNKNOWN]: It's Brock Lesnar.
02:49:56.427 --> 02:49:57.607
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, he said it's one plus one.
02:49:58.508 --> 02:50:02.551
[UNKNOWN]: So that would insinuate that there's one plus one.
02:50:03.372 --> 02:50:06.894
[UNKNOWN]: That would have been a third match coming somewhere now.
02:50:07.274 --> 02:50:08.295
[UNKNOWN]: You're done bitch.
02:50:09.036 --> 02:50:10.056
[UNKNOWN]: See, this is what I said.
02:50:10.517 --> 02:50:12.818
[UNKNOWN]: If I'm Brock, I'm having Ober when the king of the ring.
02:50:12.858 --> 02:50:14.139
[UNKNOWN]: I'm having Oberbeat Roman.
02:50:14.319 --> 02:50:19.243
[UNKNOWN]: And then in Brock Lesnar, I'm going to attack and to the fact and then take out Ober and when the world title, that's what I'm doing.
02:50:20.614 --> 02:50:21.855
[UNKNOWN]: Don't you think that makes more sense for Brock?
02:50:22.636 --> 02:50:23.677
[UNKNOWN]: Or does he not give a shit?
02:50:23.697 --> 02:50:26.499
[UNKNOWN]: I think does he give a shit.
02:50:26.679 --> 02:50:27.780
[UNKNOWN]: Just pay me the shut up.
02:50:27.820 --> 02:50:29.702
[UNKNOWN]: Long as the check clears, that's all about us.
02:50:29.802 --> 02:50:32.424
[UNKNOWN]: Ah, thank you, Zena.
02:50:32.444 --> 02:50:34.085
[UNKNOWN]: Cedro, fight all super shout.
02:50:34.246 --> 02:50:35.587
[UNKNOWN]: What do you call a bunny?
02:50:36.427 --> 02:50:37.829
[UNKNOWN]: Who was raised in a hotel?
02:50:37.849 --> 02:50:41.892
[UNKNOWN]: What do you call a bunny?
02:50:41.932 --> 02:50:42.753
[UNKNOWN]: Who's raised in a hotel?
02:50:52.062 --> 02:50:53.223
[UNKNOWN]: I don't understand the first part.
02:50:53.523 --> 02:50:55.484
[UNKNOWN]: And in, I, I, I, I, and in like an in.
02:50:55.504 --> 02:51:17.556
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's,
02:51:18.917 --> 02:51:24.803
[UNKNOWN]: You're not, uh, you're not taking on the Salomonce's fancy with these, uh, with these jokes, right?
02:51:24.823 --> 02:51:29.808
[UNKNOWN]: Reezy with the 49 denying, here's two episodes one, 52 of Tuesday night, onks.
02:51:30.348 --> 02:51:37.295
[UNKNOWN]: Oh my goodness, apparently Jason says in the beginning he's not an onke yet, so I'm going to accept that, that doesn't work.
02:51:38.842 --> 02:51:39.042
[UNKNOWN]: me?
02:51:39.583 --> 02:51:40.184
[UNKNOWN]: Different story.
02:51:40.565 --> 02:51:41.846
[UNKNOWN]: Major motions with the 499.
02:51:42.187 --> 02:51:47.334
[UNKNOWN]: Roman's belt feels like an afterthought, I legit forget sometimes, he's the World Champion.
02:51:47.915 --> 02:51:50.479
[UNKNOWN]: He doesn't need the World title to tell the story he's telling.
02:51:52.704 --> 02:51:59.986
[UNKNOWN]: Well, he may feel like an afterthought to you, but in terms of WWE presents it, it is now the top championship in this company.
02:52:00.146 --> 02:52:01.407
[UNKNOWN]: You know who we didn't see on Monday?
02:52:01.467 --> 02:52:02.987
[UNKNOWN]: We didn't see Lard on Monday.
02:52:03.107 --> 02:52:04.528
[UNKNOWN]: That was very curious as you'd be saying.
02:52:04.548 --> 02:52:05.428
[UNKNOWN]: The Roman wasn't there.
02:52:05.588 --> 02:52:06.389
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:52:07.489 --> 02:52:10.990
[UNKNOWN]: Lard, Lard, Lard, Lard, Mark, goes wherever Roman goes.
02:52:12.371 --> 02:52:14.811
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe we'll see Lard on Monday when Roman's back.
02:52:16.312 --> 02:52:17.112
[UNKNOWN]: Citrole the Five.
02:52:17.132 --> 02:52:19.793
[UNKNOWN]: Fantasy Booking, all bought fall from Grace to Jay,
02:52:22.987 --> 02:52:25.689
[UNKNOWN]: Another fall from grace, put on Jay's chest, one, two, three, book it.
02:52:25.709 --> 02:52:27.410
[UNKNOWN]: You mean Squash, Jay, Usam?
02:52:27.570 --> 02:52:27.911
[UNKNOWN]: They could never.
02:52:27.931 --> 02:52:32.013
[UNKNOWN]: Did you see when Jay came down to the ring last night after he had done eating and then he ran it back and he started talking?
02:52:32.033 --> 02:52:32.153
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
02:52:32.174 --> 02:52:44.302
[UNKNOWN]: Like, I said on my review bro, I said on my review bro, I said on my review bro, I said on my review bro, I said on my review bro, I said on my review bro, I said on my review bro, I said on my review bro, I said on my review bro, I said on my review bro, I said on my review bro, I said on my review bro, I said on my review bro, I said on my review bro, I said on my review bro, I said on my review bro, I said on my review bro, I said on my review bro, I said on my review bro, I said on my
02:52:45.032 --> 02:52:47.053
[UNKNOWN]: He had to take a deep breath after every three words.
02:52:49.935 --> 02:52:52.256
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know man, he hit the fucking treadmill man.
02:52:54.298 --> 02:52:57.340
[UNKNOWN]: I know everybody's cardio is not where it needs to be, but J.U.S.
02:52:57.400 --> 02:53:00.141
[UNKNOWN]: is on a different level he should be, but I don't know.
02:53:00.962 --> 02:53:03.783
[UNKNOWN]: Ken with a 99.9, hey J.D., what instruments do you play?
02:53:04.424 --> 02:53:05.625
[UNKNOWN]: Do you want to start a band?
02:53:05.905 --> 02:53:09.887
[UNKNOWN]: Solo on lead vocals, me on bass, you on an instrument of your choice.
02:53:09.947 --> 02:53:12.749
[UNKNOWN]: I live in Jersey so we can practice on Thursday nights.
02:53:13.795 --> 02:53:18.917
[UNKNOWN]: I used to play, uh, I used to play in a thrash slash death metal band back when I was in high school.
02:53:19.797 --> 02:53:30.561
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, I have a guitar sitting in the corner and a, uh, Mark Tramonti signature and a Mark Tramonti signature amp behind me, uh, but, uh, I'm not looking to start a band right now.
02:53:33.602 --> 02:53:34.502
[UNKNOWN]: Solowon Lee vocals.
02:53:34.542 --> 02:53:37.163
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, uh, I did hear that Solow has a voice of an angel, though.
02:53:39.023 --> 02:53:39.624
[UNKNOWN]: That's what they say.
02:53:44.872 --> 02:53:47.394
[UNKNOWN]: That's really not going to be doing any ball with the ball.
02:53:47.455 --> 02:53:50.618
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, wrap rock for Solomon Monster.
02:53:50.858 --> 02:53:55.422
[UNKNOWN]: Have you some Lincoln Park, if I could ever get the show record to open the CD that I bought.
02:53:55.442 --> 02:53:57.064
[UNKNOWN]: Sure, I mean, that would be easy enough to learn.
02:53:57.869 --> 02:53:59.110
[UNKNOWN]: Right league with a one-on-one.
02:53:59.130 --> 02:54:01.271
[UNKNOWN]: Do you see Johnny Gorgano helping Sammy win?
02:54:01.351 --> 02:54:03.353
[UNKNOWN]: And yeah, you know, I didn't bring him up.
02:54:04.073 --> 02:54:04.773
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, I don't think so.
02:54:05.274 --> 02:54:06.755
[UNKNOWN]: I think that's too low-brow for WWE.
02:54:06.775 --> 02:54:09.016
[UNKNOWN]: We're gonna have him sleeping for the rest of his contract.
02:54:10.057 --> 02:54:11.938
[UNKNOWN]: I can't see him being there to help Sammy.
02:54:11.958 --> 02:54:14.099
[UNKNOWN]: Though it would be a nice payoff.
02:54:14.720 --> 02:54:16.661
[UNKNOWN]: Honestly, he comes alive.
02:54:16.721 --> 02:54:17.141
[UNKNOWN]: He's back.
02:54:17.622 --> 02:54:20.023
[UNKNOWN]: Up and walking and he helps Sammy's in win after all these talks.
02:54:20.383 --> 02:54:24.726
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, knowing them, he would, he would finally be standing in a work.
02:54:24.846 --> 02:54:27.088
[UNKNOWN]: If it distracts Sammy, he would get pinned and be...
02:54:28.251 --> 02:54:30.613
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, yes friends.
02:54:30.633 --> 02:54:45.665
[UNKNOWN]: It's with a five totally count can't buy TNA because of WWE interfering Can he just buy Anthem sports and entertainment a Canadian media company if they want to sell Well you just answer no question they would have to want to sell first Why would he do that?
02:54:45.685 --> 02:54:50.488
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know Anthem is like It's in like the hundreds of millions of dollars.
02:54:50.529 --> 02:54:51.930
[UNKNOWN]: It's like this big media company.
02:54:51.970 --> 02:54:52.490
[UNKNOWN]: What is he?
02:54:53.171 --> 02:54:55.132
[UNKNOWN]: He's in a buy Anthem to get to TNA
02:54:59.090 --> 02:55:21.342
[UNKNOWN]: It's just about 100-100 million dollars just to buy so let's let's let's let's let's get the straight Here's so if if T&A wants to sell for 40 to 50 million But Tony feels like he can't buy them directly He'll spend hundreds of millions to buy the company that owns T&A Which is only worth supposedly 50 million
02:55:24.113 --> 02:55:26.334
[UNKNOWN]: Not a good financial endeavor for Mr. T. K. No.
02:55:26.594 --> 02:55:31.217
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, I'm not a financial advisor, but I mean, I would recommend against that.
02:55:31.257 --> 02:55:33.758
[UNKNOWN]: That sounds very, very stupid.
02:55:34.999 --> 02:55:35.939
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, Francis, thank you.
02:55:36.399 --> 02:55:37.680
[UNKNOWN]: Joker face with 499.
02:55:37.700 --> 02:55:43.643
[UNKNOWN]: Do you guys think... Bird Lady, Laira Valkyrie, a turn-teal because she hated playing Angry Birds.
02:55:48.065 --> 02:55:53.128
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, I think she turned hailed because she was tired of just showing up to work and having nothing to do for months on end.
02:55:54.885 --> 02:55:57.646
[UNKNOWN]: I'm looking forward to seeing what they do, hopefully she kills it.
02:55:58.846 --> 02:56:00.106
[UNKNOWN]: Troy Brown, well, that's 20.
02:56:00.146 --> 02:56:00.606
[UNKNOWN]: No messers.
02:56:00.626 --> 02:56:01.227
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, Troy.
02:56:02.667 --> 02:56:03.827
[UNKNOWN]: D best Ardo with the fight.
02:56:03.847 --> 02:56:05.788
[UNKNOWN]: I'll see you, but you have Brock may help Oberwinn.
02:56:06.548 --> 02:56:09.609
[UNKNOWN]: If you remember, she can't go after the title as long as Roman is champion.
02:56:11.469 --> 02:56:12.949
[UNKNOWN]: But I'm sure they forgot their own rule.
02:56:12.969 --> 02:56:15.010
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't, I wasn't even sure that was even a rule.
02:56:15.110 --> 02:56:15.750
[UNKNOWN]: Is that a rule?
02:56:17.365 --> 02:56:19.386
[UNKNOWN]: Um, was that the stipulation of her man?
02:56:19.747 --> 02:56:20.127
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
02:56:20.147 --> 02:56:27.151
[UNKNOWN]: I thought the stipulation was that they Not necessarily that he can't go after the title, but it was supposed to be their last match ever.
02:56:28.692 --> 02:56:29.593
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I don't I don't know.
02:56:29.673 --> 02:56:30.153
[UNKNOWN]: I have to look in.
02:56:30.193 --> 02:56:31.334
[UNKNOWN]: Well, then he would just pick Cody.
02:56:31.394 --> 02:56:32.294
[UNKNOWN]: So, I mean, yeah.
02:56:32.675 --> 02:56:32.895
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:56:33.995 --> 02:56:35.656
[UNKNOWN]: I have to look into that, but I start with thank you.
02:56:36.697 --> 02:56:37.618
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, Francis with the fun.
02:56:38.660 --> 02:56:42.362
[UNKNOWN]: Did you know Comcast does not own the USA network anymore?
02:56:42.962 --> 02:56:47.444
[UNKNOWN]: It's Versa Media, a spin-off company of Comcast, and it is a publicly traded company.
02:56:50.245 --> 02:56:50.926
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
02:56:51.786 --> 02:56:52.786
[UNKNOWN]: What is that?
02:56:52.866 --> 02:56:54.147
[UNKNOWN]: Why is that important information though?
02:56:56.278 --> 02:57:01.020
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if it is, I think it's just so when WWE has those, did you know facts?
02:57:01.040 --> 02:57:01.640
[UNKNOWN]: That popped up.
02:57:01.660 --> 02:57:02.240
[UNKNOWN]: I guess so.
02:57:02.300 --> 02:57:03.061
[UNKNOWN]: And thank you, Francis.
02:57:03.101 --> 02:57:11.304
[UNKNOWN]: Also, with the five Francis, Tony Khan couldn't just buy all the shares of Versa Media and own the USA Network in which SmackDown resides he can take over.
02:57:11.404 --> 02:57:12.945
[UNKNOWN]: So hold on to say sis channel.
02:57:13.025 --> 02:57:17.847
[UNKNOWN]: So now in the last few minutes, we've had people propose that Tony come by anthem.
02:57:18.840 --> 02:57:23.722
[UNKNOWN]: And by verse of ideas that he can just absorb all of these, all of these entity.
02:57:23.742 --> 02:57:25.203
[UNKNOWN]: That would be terrible for wrestling.
02:57:25.323 --> 02:57:25.863
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:57:26.304 --> 02:57:27.304
[UNKNOWN]: That would be a monopoly.
02:57:27.544 --> 02:57:28.325
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we don't want that.
02:57:28.945 --> 02:57:29.185
[UNKNOWN]: No.
02:57:30.145 --> 02:57:32.947
[UNKNOWN]: We've got a 490 on here from Solomon's to Sun.
02:57:32.967 --> 02:57:33.767
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:57:34.708 --> 02:57:39.150
[UNKNOWN]: Dad, don't forget if Jay Whitton's mom said I have to move in with you.
02:57:39.730 --> 02:57:40.911
[UNKNOWN]: Hashtag no heat.
02:57:41.671 --> 02:57:43.472
[UNKNOWN]: Hashtag daddy, I'm coming home.
02:57:49.865 --> 02:57:53.307
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, all the locks have been changed, I'll be able to get in.
02:57:54.307 --> 02:58:10.516
[UNKNOWN]: Francis Loupier with 15 in Super Chat, $35 Super Chat, have you guys seen the movie The Furious, starring Joe Tasselon, aka Sub-Zero in the new Mortal Kombat movie, has husband looking for his missing wife.
02:58:12.938 --> 02:58:16.281
[UNKNOWN]: No.
02:58:16.301 --> 02:58:17.522
[UNKNOWN]: I wanted to go see it.
02:58:18.903 --> 02:58:21.164
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I'm unable to go see it.
02:58:21.865 --> 02:58:31.572
[UNKNOWN]: He also says the furious got 98% around tomatoes, 6% more than Toy Story 5, critics call it a master piece, and it's the first movie in 2006 for Best Picture.
02:58:33.434 --> 02:58:34.855
[UNKNOWN]: Because Jason's got to find this movie now.
02:58:36.936 --> 02:58:37.697
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to wait for it.
02:58:37.717 --> 02:58:41.140
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to wait for it to come out on streaming, and we'll definitely watch it.
02:58:41.320 --> 02:58:41.540
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:58:43.252 --> 02:58:45.974
[UNKNOWN]: Also, Francis says, saw two count this morning great stuff.
02:58:46.334 --> 02:58:46.715
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
02:58:47.455 --> 02:58:52.639
[UNKNOWN]: If WWE wants to cut everybody's pain in half, they should let the talent make extra money like during the pandemic.
02:58:55.121 --> 02:58:57.242
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't know what is allowed on what is not allowed anymore.
02:58:58.423 --> 02:59:00.825
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
02:59:00.925 --> 02:59:02.746
[UNKNOWN]: Keep chaos with the 49.9 side note.
02:59:02.786 --> 02:59:05.548
[UNKNOWN]: We went to see obsessed yesterday.
02:59:05.868 --> 02:59:06.969
[UNKNOWN]: That shit is crazy.
02:59:07.229 --> 02:59:08.971
[UNKNOWN]: Still like the back rooms better though.
02:59:09.011 --> 02:59:10.852
[UNKNOWN]: Thanks all on JD and shout out to Jesse.
02:59:12.405 --> 02:59:13.645
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, Obsession.
02:59:14.586 --> 02:59:15.306
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, he sent Obsessed.
02:59:15.346 --> 02:59:15.706
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry.
02:59:15.726 --> 02:59:16.566
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, yes.
02:59:17.287 --> 02:59:21.288
[UNKNOWN]: Obsession, I believe has now passed the $300 million.
02:59:21.368 --> 02:59:22.348
[UNKNOWN]: I believe worldwide.
02:59:22.428 --> 02:59:23.709
[UNKNOWN]: And finally coming to the homes.
02:59:23.809 --> 02:59:24.429
[UNKNOWN]: So I could watch it.
02:59:25.709 --> 02:59:30.771
[UNKNOWN]: Well, they wisely pushed it back a little bit because it was still doing incredible business.
02:59:30.851 --> 02:59:36.773
[UNKNOWN]: And my fans were actually like, no, cancel it, take it off the calendar so they kept it in beers for a little while longer.
02:59:38.111 --> 02:59:41.413
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, Francis with another 12 in SuperShare.
02:59:41.453 --> 02:59:42.174
[UNKNOWN]: Francis, thank you.
02:59:42.774 --> 02:59:47.317
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, if Seth Rollins had his buddies, he would have won the King of the Ring.
02:59:48.138 --> 02:59:53.361
[UNKNOWN]: So we could possibly get Charlotte Flever's Blakeman row at WrestleMania next year in a Hollywood ending match.
02:59:53.921 --> 02:59:55.483
[UNKNOWN]: It would have to be non-sanctioned.
02:59:56.183 --> 02:59:59.085
[UNKNOWN]: Non-sanctioned to go around the no-blood policy.
03:00:00.912 --> 03:00:03.113
[UNKNOWN]: From Blake Monroe hasn't even debuted on television yet.
03:00:03.153 --> 03:00:05.093
[UNKNOWN]: We're booking her again Charlotte Flair, WrestleMania.
03:00:05.133 --> 03:00:12.555
[UNKNOWN]: Let's get her on TV first, which yeah, I can't wait to see Charlotte Flair taping her fist and dipping them in the bucket full of glass.
03:00:13.795 --> 03:00:14.615
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, yes.
03:00:15.235 --> 03:00:18.476
[UNKNOWN]: I can't wait for Blake to beat Charlotte Flair with the healer for her shoe.
03:00:18.936 --> 03:00:20.997
[UNKNOWN]: And she's blended at the end of a Friday night's record.
03:00:21.037 --> 03:00:21.697
[UNKNOWN]: Never gonna happen.
03:00:23.088 --> 03:00:25.549
[UNKNOWN]: Um, who else do we have here?
03:00:25.569 --> 03:00:33.033
[UNKNOWN]: We had, uh, kick cast Francis Thank you Tony Brown with a 10 Sammy wins and then another triple throughout Cody Sammy Jay.
03:00:33.734 --> 03:00:36.615
[UNKNOWN]: Jay wins King of the ring due to bloodline, not Brock.
03:00:37.175 --> 03:00:42.178
[UNKNOWN]: This will set up Oberverse OTC for Summerslam night one Brock costs Ober they fight night two.
03:00:52.744 --> 03:00:56.166
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, not interested.
03:00:58.367 --> 03:01:00.369
[UNKNOWN]: Chicago 4 MBK with the fight all Superjet.
03:01:00.389 --> 03:01:02.750
[UNKNOWN]: Thanks for your great commentary work last Friday in Chicago.
03:01:03.170 --> 03:01:05.692
[UNKNOWN]: It was awesome listening to you guys call matches with H.O.G.
03:01:05.712 --> 03:01:07.013
[UNKNOWN]: TNA and AEW talent.
03:01:07.733 --> 03:01:08.193
[UNKNOWN]: Well, thank you.
03:01:08.434 --> 03:01:09.694
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you for tuning in.
03:01:09.714 --> 03:01:10.735
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, go ahead and enjoy it.
03:01:12.617 --> 03:01:37.137
[UNKNOWN]: Boss more jacks with a 499 King of the Ring winner should be someone you wouldn't typically see like an L8 like an LA night chat gable or a LIA Dragon of something different WW didn't conduct this right They can duct it at the weather that they wanted you realize that that win that LA night got on roll last night was his first win singles win anyway of 2020 sex was it really I believe so one win
03:01:41.288 --> 03:02:03.614
[UNKNOWN]: But I'm pretty sure they're booking them to win King of the Ring and stuff and I don't think they quite realize how How lopsided his win loss record was and we're talking TV So I'm going to do a search right now Which is verify that this is in fact the case.
03:02:04.114 --> 03:02:09.515
[UNKNOWN]: So let's see, getting used to He's got some wins on like live events but those don't count
03:02:10.433 --> 03:02:10.833
[UNKNOWN]: No.
03:02:12.535 --> 03:02:16.778
[UNKNOWN]: And he did win an elimination chamber qualifier, that was a triple threat though.
03:02:18.319 --> 03:02:21.902
[UNKNOWN]: So that was the last TV when he had prior to last night, that was the February.
03:02:23.323 --> 03:02:25.245
[UNKNOWN]: That's long enough, you don't need to go back any further.
03:02:25.305 --> 03:02:25.565
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah?
03:02:25.865 --> 03:02:35.433
[UNKNOWN]: No, it's true, the last time prior to last night that LA night had a singles win on television was in the John Cena last time is now tournament in December over J. Uso.
03:02:35.673 --> 03:02:36.774
[UNKNOWN]: Oh my god.
03:02:37.354 --> 03:02:39.216
[UNKNOWN]: And then last night he beat Jimmy Uso.
03:02:41.612 --> 03:02:42.112
[UNKNOWN]: Wow, man.
03:02:42.132 --> 03:02:45.014
[UNKNOWN]: That's he's really spreading the wealth out there creatively.
03:02:47.496 --> 03:02:48.316
[UNKNOWN]: Oh my god.
03:02:48.937 --> 03:02:52.639
[UNKNOWN]: Chrana $2.00 super chat $4.00 super chat.
03:02:52.659 --> 03:03:03.666
[UNKNOWN]: You're Mount Rushmore for ECW and WCW and if amazing red did one off match in WWE, who would you want him to face your favorite junk food growing up?
03:03:04.547 --> 03:03:06.868
[UNKNOWN]: Finally favorite comedy movie cheers guys.
03:03:07.068 --> 03:03:09.590
[UNKNOWN]: All right, so we'll start with Mount Rushmore for ECW.
03:03:12.149 --> 03:03:19.574
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I mean, for ECW, you got, you have to go, uh, Sandman, yep, Saboo.
03:03:19.694 --> 03:03:19.875
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
03:03:22.396 --> 03:03:22.696
[UNKNOWN]: Raven?
03:03:24.498 --> 03:03:26.399
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, I would, uh, yeah.
03:03:28.560 --> 03:03:31.863
[UNKNOWN]: You got to go, you got to go, uh, you got to go Raven.
03:03:32.403 --> 03:03:33.124
[UNKNOWN]: You got to go Raven.
03:03:33.924 --> 03:03:37.186
[UNKNOWN]: Raven, Dreamer, Sandman, and, and, uh,
03:03:44.265 --> 03:03:53.351
[UNKNOWN]: of the one of the one of the one of the one of the one of the one of the one of the
03:04:12.993 --> 03:04:17.354
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, I mean, again, if you want to just look at the big big stars, how do you have a Goldberg on there?
03:04:17.734 --> 03:04:17.915
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
03:04:19.135 --> 03:04:19.355
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
03:04:19.375 --> 03:04:20.835
[UNKNOWN]: He was white hot there for a while.
03:04:22.496 --> 03:04:25.717
[UNKNOWN]: The amazing round of one match in WWE, who would you want him to face?
03:04:25.737 --> 03:04:27.057
[UNKNOWN]: Um...
03:04:29.898 --> 03:04:31.519
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, that's a tough one.
03:04:36.260 --> 03:04:37.340
[UNKNOWN]: Who would match up well with him?
03:04:37.981 --> 03:04:38.641
[UNKNOWN]: Trying to survive?
03:04:45.970 --> 03:04:46.590
[UNKNOWN]: Anybody, really?
03:04:47.331 --> 03:04:48.091
[UNKNOWN]: To have a junk food.
03:04:51.073 --> 03:04:53.334
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what pretzels we considered a junk food.
03:04:54.355 --> 03:04:55.916
[UNKNOWN]: I would put that in that category.
03:04:56.376 --> 03:04:57.596
[UNKNOWN]: Then it's definitely pretzels.
03:04:57.637 --> 03:04:58.237
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, there you go.
03:04:58.997 --> 03:05:00.238
[UNKNOWN]: And then favorite comedy movie.
03:05:04.557 --> 03:05:05.057
[UNKNOWN]: There's a couple.
03:05:06.457 --> 03:05:08.258
[UNKNOWN]: Ace Ventura, Tommy Boy.
03:05:09.558 --> 03:05:15.600
[UNKNOWN]: I love that I laughed at the hardest that I saw in theaters when it came out was super bad.
03:05:16.460 --> 03:05:17.060
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that was funny.
03:05:17.480 --> 03:05:18.340
[UNKNOWN]: That's a funny movie.
03:05:18.360 --> 03:05:19.080
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that was funny.
03:05:20.001 --> 03:05:20.901
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
03:05:22.081 --> 03:05:24.402
[UNKNOWN]: There was, yeah, there was black sheep.
03:05:24.602 --> 03:05:29.163
[UNKNOWN]: I love black sheep with Tommy with Chris Farley and David Spade.
03:05:31.043 --> 03:05:32.044
[UNKNOWN]: The original Happy Gilmore.
03:05:35.478 --> 03:05:36.038
[UNKNOWN]: God, there's a couple.
03:05:36.999 --> 03:05:40.660
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, Triple M. All but first Brock protects him from a loss to Roman.
03:05:43.901 --> 03:05:44.361
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, for now.
03:05:45.122 --> 03:05:47.963
[UNKNOWN]: A lot of people think that even if a moment Roman go out of that Roman's going to win.
03:05:49.543 --> 03:05:49.883
[UNKNOWN]: We'll see.
03:05:50.564 --> 03:05:51.784
[UNKNOWN]: Or maybe a night with a six, nine, then nine.
03:05:51.804 --> 03:05:53.165
[UNKNOWN]: Gunther's bookings been shit.
03:05:53.245 --> 03:05:55.065
[UNKNOWN]: Romans, the only big name left for him.
03:05:55.706 --> 03:06:01.148
[UNKNOWN]: You think once his deal is up, does he leave and become Walter in AEW?
03:06:01.188 --> 03:06:02.008
[UNKNOWN]: Imagine the mages.
03:06:04.343 --> 03:06:05.545
[UNKNOWN]: I think he's pretty content for us.
03:06:06.646 --> 03:06:10.330
[UNKNOWN]: Honestly, he's one of those guys.
03:06:10.430 --> 03:06:13.353
[UNKNOWN]: Raven 341 with a super chat.
03:06:13.373 --> 03:06:17.598
[UNKNOWN]: I think Sammy wins money in the bank and cash is in on Cody and Saudi during his match with Roman.
03:06:21.622 --> 03:06:23.785
[UNKNOWN]: Cody and Roman, they're WrestleMania next year.
03:06:24.065 --> 03:06:24.345
[UNKNOWN]: Again.
03:06:27.195 --> 03:06:51.836
[UNKNOWN]: You guys are crazy money the banks happening in October, so I haven't even gotten my head wrapped around What could happen there a rabie and I would have to use 79 is this Bailey's last big feud before she departs I could I could absolutely I don't know when her contract is up, but I could absolutely see Bailey leaving my code I'm sure there's a big push for her to be in a w
03:06:54.780 --> 03:07:02.204
[UNKNOWN]: Stepra with a one-month JD you make work a breeze shout out to my boy Sergio who led me to you Well, thank you, Stepra.
03:07:02.224 --> 03:07:02.884
[UNKNOWN]: I appreciate that.
03:07:03.505 --> 03:07:21.715
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you very much Bucky freaking dense 78 One of the five bottles of baseball question for JD which brave team you wish won the world series for Salomon sir, which metteam you wish won the world series I'll let you into that one first 2006
03:07:23.782 --> 03:07:37.428
[UNKNOWN]: That's the one where Carlos Beltron froze as the ball sailed past him and the series ended with the Cardinals and they were deprived of a World Series birth that was a very painful loss.
03:07:38.008 --> 03:07:39.289
[UNKNOWN]: That was a series they should have won.
03:07:40.470 --> 03:07:42.010
[UNKNOWN]: That was a... Do you remember the...
03:07:42.090 --> 03:07:47.153
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if you remember this, but the Andy Chavez catch?
03:07:47.853 --> 03:07:47.973
[UNKNOWN]: No.
03:07:49.745 --> 03:08:08.861
[UNKNOWN]: said they were he he was in the outfield and he ran he he jumped up right at the wall the catch this ball and I still to this day I don't know how he caught that ball he snow combed it and it was just such such a great catch and it's like man if they go on to win that catch is going to be remembered for you like the way that like O.G.
03:08:08.921 --> 03:08:14.286
[UNKNOWN]: and Anobi with the tip and the Nick series game for that they went on to win the championship that is going to
03:08:18.227 --> 03:08:27.452
[UNKNOWN]: So like you kind of look back on and it's like yeah, it was a great catch, but then you kind of are reminded of just how awful a loss that was for them in that series.
03:08:28.253 --> 03:08:35.137
[UNKNOWN]: So O6 would be the Metz team I would pick 1996 for me against the Yankees.
03:08:36.378 --> 03:08:39.920
[UNKNOWN]: They won game 1, 12s to 1, Greg Maddox pitched.
03:08:41.749 --> 03:08:56.304
[UNKNOWN]: Um, no, I think John Smalls started that game and then Maddox pitched a shutout and game two for nothing and then they they went on to lose for sure games So it's like how you have those two games start the series you're up to zero and then you lose four two So if I can have any one of them back it's that one.
03:08:56.384 --> 03:09:01.149
[UNKNOWN]: They should have absolutely won that year I don't know what the fuck happened john waller or what Mark Waller's happened that year.
03:09:01.249 --> 03:09:03.592
[UNKNOWN]: That's that's what happened I'm a ridiculous
03:09:05.523 --> 03:09:07.344
[UNKNOWN]: Um, Bradley with a five hour super jet.
03:09:07.384 --> 03:09:07.764
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, man.
03:09:07.884 --> 03:09:09.584
[UNKNOWN]: We don't book knee jerk reactions.
03:09:09.804 --> 03:09:10.865
[UNKNOWN]: We book long term.
03:09:11.025 --> 03:09:12.045
[UNKNOWN]: Also WWE.
03:09:12.145 --> 03:09:18.347
[UNKNOWN]: Let's turn John Cena heel for a moment and have no plan after I'm assuming he said that with CV V today.
03:09:18.407 --> 03:09:30.371
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't listen to it yet All I saw was online that he mentioned they W and I don't know anything else that happened in that interview It's two hours I'm assuming it would be So get to it at some point.
03:09:30.411 --> 03:09:30.591
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
03:09:30.871 --> 03:09:31.431
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know why it
03:09:32.591 --> 03:09:56.673
[UNKNOWN]: uh... clone force of the nine nine nine nine nine nine only bringing this up since this week makes nineteen years since benwa and what do you guys what was you guys doing when the news broke and what was your thoughts at the time while it happened i was living in Atlantic city wall that happened i was on my couch in the living room when i got to spend on my screen talking about what happened i don't know where you were i was at work and i read about it on the observer side
03:09:58.965 --> 03:10:12.069
[UNKNOWN]: And my first thought when I because the the initial news was that the three of them were found dead at home So I remember sitting there and I just my first thought was like Carbon monoxide poisoning.
03:10:12.229 --> 03:10:25.573
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah Great went home So you saw and then after a period of time the news began to change Thank you call force
03:10:26.565 --> 03:10:28.288
[UNKNOWN]: That's that bro of the 49-9 solo.
03:10:29.109 --> 03:10:30.771
[UNKNOWN]: Make JD watch Supranos.
03:10:31.111 --> 03:10:32.574
[UNKNOWN]: Hurry before GT-A6.
03:10:32.934 --> 03:10:35.538
[UNKNOWN]: Thanks for making the Refinery Live Easy Brothers.
03:10:36.599 --> 03:10:37.060
[UNKNOWN]: Hashtag.
03:10:37.100 --> 03:10:37.921
[UNKNOWN]: But JD.
03:10:37.941 --> 03:10:38.742
[UNKNOWN]: Hashtag.
03:10:38.802 --> 03:10:39.283
[UNKNOWN]: Boring.
03:10:39.363 --> 03:10:40.084
[UNKNOWN]: Hashtag.
03:10:40.264 --> 03:10:40.525
[UNKNOWN]: Adam.
03:10:44.490 --> 03:10:45.150
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, Stepra.
03:10:45.690 --> 03:10:46.330
[UNKNOWN]: I'll try him.
03:10:47.011 --> 03:10:47.711
[UNKNOWN]: I keep trying him.
03:10:47.731 --> 03:10:51.152
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, I'm going to do it.
03:10:51.412 --> 03:10:55.233
[UNKNOWN]: I think I've decided to see the going to be sopranos or game of thrones.
03:10:55.273 --> 03:10:56.473
[UNKNOWN]: I think we're going to do sopranos first.
03:10:56.593 --> 03:10:57.673
[UNKNOWN]: Everybody's been saying you got to do it.
03:10:57.693 --> 03:10:58.453
[UNKNOWN]: You got to do it with this guy.
03:10:58.473 --> 03:10:59.614
[UNKNOWN]: I'm saying the Jessie saying it.
03:11:00.014 --> 03:11:00.294
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
03:11:00.334 --> 03:11:01.054
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to do it.
03:11:01.774 --> 03:11:08.836
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I just finished season two of the pit, just a great show.
03:11:09.953 --> 03:11:11.574
[UNKNOWN]: on the HBO Max.
03:11:11.674 --> 03:11:13.636
[UNKNOWN]: It's got no whiley in the lead role.
03:11:13.836 --> 03:11:25.604
[UNKNOWN]: It's almost like a like a more modern version of the R. Only it's not called the R. But he basically is kind of like the head guy in the yard in Pittsburgh.
03:11:26.944 --> 03:11:27.985
[UNKNOWN]: It's a great show.
03:11:29.326 --> 03:11:30.807
[UNKNOWN]: like I'm like addicted to it.
03:11:31.688 --> 03:11:33.229
[UNKNOWN]: I binge the first season.
03:11:33.830 --> 03:11:47.421
[UNKNOWN]: I just finished the second season apparently the third one is coming out in January and it's weird because there are scenes where I like I have to turn away like there's there's a squeamish stuff on the show.
03:11:48.382 --> 03:11:50.904
[UNKNOWN]: But like I go around I was looking at some of these YouTube videos.
03:11:51.584 --> 03:12:13.240
[UNKNOWN]: and a lot of doctors and like nurses and nurse practitioners are like this is the most accurate medical show that's ever been made uh yeah i get that same way too i'm scoomish want to see uh blood like that like a real type of way uh i mean did there's like i i wasn't aware of what a degloving injury was until i saw the pit
03:12:14.908 --> 03:12:17.308
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm like, I never want to see that again.
03:12:18.589 --> 03:12:19.469
[UNKNOWN]: I don't even want to ask.
03:12:19.989 --> 03:12:22.049
[UNKNOWN]: That's about as bad of an injury as you can read.
03:12:22.669 --> 03:12:23.730
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, it's in the name.
03:12:23.770 --> 03:12:27.210
[UNKNOWN]: Like, imagine, like, you have your hand, right?
03:12:28.110 --> 03:12:28.331
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
03:12:29.031 --> 03:12:31.611
[UNKNOWN]: Now imagine, you have skin on your hand.
03:12:31.631 --> 03:12:34.672
[UNKNOWN]: Now imagine if you just had to kind of, like, pull it all off.
03:12:35.232 --> 03:12:35.452
[UNKNOWN]: I know.
03:12:35.472 --> 03:12:35.952
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
03:12:35.992 --> 03:12:36.492
[UNKNOWN]: No, okay.
03:12:36.532 --> 03:12:37.132
[UNKNOWN]: We'll stop there.
03:12:37.472 --> 03:12:38.392
[UNKNOWN]: It sounds like it's not loving.
03:12:38.432 --> 03:12:40.293
[UNKNOWN]: It sounds like a fucking scene out of the walking dead.
03:12:40.313 --> 03:12:41.293
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if the fucking is that.
03:12:42.523 --> 03:12:56.940
[UNKNOWN]: uh... thank you step bro furious nation with a four nine then i would subject the cello closed in the month of june strong with the two of the best also enjoyed earlier with pohaiman and cv v yes i will eventually get to that uh... that's one of the ones uh... i am very interested here in
03:12:58.512 --> 03:12:59.092
[UNKNOWN]: But thank you, brother.
03:12:59.112 --> 03:12:59.712
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you for being here.
03:13:00.333 --> 03:13:01.553
[UNKNOWN]: Razz 24 with a fight off.
03:13:01.573 --> 03:13:01.933
[UNKNOWN]: Super shout.
03:13:01.953 --> 03:13:02.253
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, Jay.
03:13:02.273 --> 03:13:02.694
[UNKNOWN]: These solo.
03:13:02.714 --> 03:13:06.155
[UNKNOWN]: If you ever got into the ring, what would your ring persona be?
03:13:06.235 --> 03:13:06.675
[UNKNOWN]: Ring name.
03:13:06.735 --> 03:13:08.796
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like we get this like once every couple of months.
03:13:08.816 --> 03:13:09.076
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
03:13:09.636 --> 03:13:09.836
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
03:13:10.277 --> 03:13:12.638
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I would be the solemn monster.
03:13:14.118 --> 03:13:15.419
[UNKNOWN]: the perfect wrestling.
03:13:15.579 --> 03:13:24.163
[UNKNOWN]: I am going to take the the way out here and I never want to be in ring again unless I am physically a manager of of some body.
03:13:24.983 --> 03:13:26.804
[UNKNOWN]: I never want to be in a pro wrestling ring ever again.
03:13:27.264 --> 03:13:31.066
[UNKNOWN]: I just want to be where I am and just call the action.
03:13:31.126 --> 03:13:32.046
[UNKNOWN]: Don Stony with the five.
03:13:32.066 --> 03:13:35.048
[UNKNOWN]: Shout out to Don Stony, wrestling soups, spitball, media, and as always.
03:13:35.088 --> 03:13:36.048
[UNKNOWN]: All right, Pete Kevin Castle.
03:13:36.068 --> 03:13:36.348
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
03:13:36.368 --> 03:13:38.109
[UNKNOWN]: Don, appreciate you for being here as always, brother.
03:13:39.837 --> 03:14:08.723
[UNKNOWN]: uh... furious with the four night and i'm with nineteen years since the been watch rod you want the people i really feel bad for is christ's oldest son david i don't know what he's up to nowadays kind of late light they popped up at uh... i was at a ring of honor show recently somebody who uh... posted a photo with him one of the wrestlers he pops in on these wrestling shows every now and then just kind of you know shows up but i think he's got his own job outside of wrestling and apparently does does well for himself
03:14:10.280 --> 03:14:24.862
[UNKNOWN]: uh... we have pow tv with a one-on-one and have you seen jaylin brunson selling one k photos at fanfest or a fun and ex-fest is it really that much money that's ridiculous just for a just for a fucking photo
03:14:28.087 --> 03:14:28.727
[UNKNOWN]: That is insane.
03:14:29.447 --> 03:14:30.868
[UNKNOWN]: Jason's looking that up.
03:14:30.908 --> 03:14:31.388
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, pal.
03:14:31.708 --> 03:14:32.829
[UNKNOWN]: Jeff, for the 16 months.
03:14:33.109 --> 03:14:36.490
[UNKNOWN]: Hey fellas, are you both looking forward to purchasing GTA and playing GTA?
03:14:36.990 --> 03:14:40.331
[UNKNOWN]: Also, if you had the pens for what SummerSlam, what made events, do you book?
03:14:43.032 --> 03:14:44.333
[UNKNOWN]: Ah, I will be playing GTA.
03:14:45.393 --> 03:14:48.714
[UNKNOWN]: SummerSlam, I would have booked Rollins, Reigns, and Punk and Cody.
03:14:49.014 --> 03:14:49.594
[UNKNOWN]: Well, this is my two.
03:14:53.616 --> 03:14:54.616
[UNKNOWN]: Robin Reigns is gonna be there.
03:14:55.411 --> 03:14:56.231
[UNKNOWN]: Romorans will be there.
03:14:56.251 --> 03:14:57.192
[UNKNOWN]: So we'll see the empok.
03:14:57.372 --> 03:15:11.258
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Cody rogues, right here's a jail in Bronson goes on sale June 24th I guess that's tomorrow Paid photo of doesn't give a price
03:15:12.498 --> 03:15:17.240
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, the WWE talent sold out all of their a lot of space last year.
03:15:17.280 --> 03:15:20.181
[UNKNOWN]: They were the only The only stars to do that last year.
03:15:20.201 --> 03:15:24.783
[UNKNOWN]: Everybody else was They don't have any prices listed here.
03:15:24.823 --> 03:15:25.283
[UNKNOWN]: Let's see.
03:15:25.543 --> 03:15:28.644
[UNKNOWN]: And that is Alex.
03:15:29.645 --> 03:15:30.845
[UNKNOWN]: Well, they fight all super chat.
03:15:31.625 --> 03:15:32.566
[UNKNOWN]: Brother Jay these solo.
03:15:32.766 --> 03:15:33.466
[UNKNOWN]: Whatever.
03:15:33.766 --> 03:15:37.728
[UNKNOWN]: All right, so this is this is the list.
03:15:37.768 --> 03:15:38.728
[UNKNOWN]: This is what you'll pay.
03:15:40.191 --> 03:16:03.958
[UNKNOWN]: for the various members of the new york nicks uh... for jail in brunson nine hundred thirty five dollars for carl anthony towns three hundred thirty eight dollars uh... and it just basically goes down from there well that's that that's that that's highway robbery bro i mean did they care about their fucking fan base or is that a fanatics best thing what is that
03:16:05.062 --> 03:16:07.844
[UNKNOWN]: Well, this person wrote, like, last year, Bronson was $183.
03:16:08.024 --> 03:16:11.246
[UNKNOWN]: Got to love fanatics, truly the worst.
03:16:11.506 --> 03:16:13.567
[UNKNOWN]: That is awful, but I won't even, I won't even support them, man.
03:16:13.947 --> 03:16:16.169
[UNKNOWN]: And that place is going to be sold out, Javitsonner.
03:16:16.669 --> 03:16:16.989
[UNKNOWN]: Crazy.
03:16:17.209 --> 03:16:18.250
[UNKNOWN]: That's, that's awful.
03:16:19.791 --> 03:16:22.012
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, what was your summer, Selen, made a Vensby, if you had the pen?
03:16:26.115 --> 03:16:32.659
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, given where we are now, or like, a perfect world scenario, because in a perfect world scenario, let me, it would be Cody and Punk.
03:16:32.859 --> 03:16:33.079
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
03:16:34.366 --> 03:16:35.146
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, perfect for a minute.
03:16:35.166 --> 03:16:38.468
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, but there you go.
03:16:38.588 --> 03:16:39.748
[UNKNOWN]: Alex, thank you.
03:16:40.128 --> 03:16:41.829
[UNKNOWN]: Will you be pre-ordered GTSX?
03:16:44.870 --> 03:16:45.730
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, not me.
03:16:45.790 --> 03:16:48.751
[UNKNOWN]: I don't have a console.
03:16:48.891 --> 03:16:49.532
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, I don't know.
03:16:49.572 --> 03:16:52.713
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, there's no, there's no limit on the pre-order, right?
03:16:52.733 --> 03:16:53.233
[UNKNOWN]: It's digital.
03:16:53.513 --> 03:16:55.594
[UNKNOWN]: So I can pre-order it whenever I want.
03:16:55.734 --> 03:16:57.955
[UNKNOWN]: I don't need to necessarily do it on Thursday.
03:16:59.232 --> 03:17:05.240
[UNKNOWN]: Ah, Citroes with it, or actually no, boss more Jackson with the one on the 90 mentioned Citroes jokes suck tonight, but a luck next time.
03:17:05.260 --> 03:17:05.721
[UNKNOWN]: Thumbs down.
03:17:07.443 --> 03:17:08.405
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you boss more Jackson.
03:17:08.425 --> 03:17:11.168
[UNKNOWN]: Brian Finnelli with the 49.9 towels can't tell jokes.
03:17:11.689 --> 03:17:13.752
[UNKNOWN]: They have a dry sense of humor.
03:17:16.513 --> 03:17:17.053
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, Brian.
03:17:18.034 --> 03:17:24.400
[UNKNOWN]: Hollywood, Johnny pay with a 999 pleasure seeing JD and Salomonster hog in Chicago.
03:17:24.880 --> 03:17:25.281
[UNKNOWN]: Happy you.
03:17:25.421 --> 03:17:27.243
[UNKNOWN]: Happy you guys enjoyed the cookies.
03:17:28.043 --> 03:17:34.769
[UNKNOWN]: And that's the least I can do for the best voices in all of the IWC family says Hi, and thank you again for all you do.
03:17:34.829 --> 03:17:35.750
[UNKNOWN]: Johnny, thank you, brother.
03:17:37.612 --> 03:17:39.534
[UNKNOWN]: I cookie at the spot when I got back to the hotel room.
03:17:40.616 --> 03:17:45.281
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Johnny shot it on the sound off and I said that cookie was as big as my fist.
03:17:46.682 --> 03:17:51.066
[UNKNOWN]: I wasn't sure I'd be able to finish it, but then halfway through the show it was gone.
03:17:51.206 --> 03:17:52.728
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
03:17:52.788 --> 03:17:53.448
[UNKNOWN]: It was very good.
03:17:54.189 --> 03:17:54.810
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, Johnny.
03:17:54.830 --> 03:17:55.310
[UNKNOWN]: Appreciate it.
03:17:55.330 --> 03:17:55.871
[UNKNOWN]: It was always brother.
03:17:55.891 --> 03:17:57.152
[UNKNOWN]: We'll see you again in Chicago.
03:17:57.652 --> 03:17:59.494
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm assuming it'll be pretty soon.
03:17:59.554 --> 03:18:01.156
[UNKNOWN]: So thank you again, brother.
03:18:01.958 --> 03:18:10.245
[UNKNOWN]: Just in turn with at nine months another great shot tonight Gonna be back and forth between forbidden door and great American bash hopefully candle gray wins the title.
03:18:10.385 --> 03:18:10.785
[UNKNOWN]: Thanks.
03:18:10.906 --> 03:18:12.827
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think it's time I think a lot.
03:18:12.867 --> 03:18:14.068
[UNKNOWN]: Lola is due for call up.
03:18:14.769 --> 03:18:24.096
[UNKNOWN]: Honestly We got JD from London to 06 with the 49 and on AJ theature twin brother from the UK me and Don't worry older brother.
03:18:24.176 --> 03:18:30.502
[UNKNOWN]: I got us an all in match so we can get back on TK's payroll trip Triple H is a wanker
03:18:31.630 --> 03:18:33.292
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, man, look at that.
03:18:34.513 --> 03:18:35.073
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, J.D.
03:18:35.093 --> 03:18:36.815
[UNKNOWN]: from London to 06, I appreciate that, man.
03:18:36.835 --> 03:18:40.158
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, Hollywood guy will fight out.
03:18:40.178 --> 03:18:44.442
[UNKNOWN]: See, which I fellas, if you had the pen for one day, which promotion would you guys go to?
03:18:44.642 --> 03:18:47.525
[UNKNOWN]: WWE, AEW, CMLL, Triple A.
03:18:49.246 --> 03:18:51.308
[UNKNOWN]: That's to be the bookers, which promotion would you want to book for?
03:18:55.103 --> 03:18:58.765
[UNKNOWN]: Ah, that's a new question, but promotion what I want to book for.
03:18:58.905 --> 03:19:02.427
[UNKNOWN]: At the bigger rostered, I feel like to play with in AEW.
03:19:03.008 --> 03:19:04.148
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, probably choose AEW.
03:19:05.329 --> 03:19:06.990
[UNKNOWN]: Just like just the anger the sickles.
03:19:08.771 --> 03:19:09.791
[UNKNOWN]: Oh my god, can you imagine?
03:19:11.252 --> 03:19:12.212
[UNKNOWN]: JD from the yard.
03:19:12.873 --> 03:19:15.514
[UNKNOWN]: The new bucker are all elite wrestling.
03:19:16.715 --> 03:19:18.756
[UNKNOWN]: That's a really, that's a really test them.
03:19:18.796 --> 03:19:22.318
[UNKNOWN]: Do they continue to watch or do they protest in anger?
03:19:23.017 --> 03:19:23.417
[UNKNOWN]: What do they do?
03:19:23.437 --> 03:19:24.698
[UNKNOWN]: They're not going to go watch WWE.
03:19:24.718 --> 03:19:26.139
[UNKNOWN]: Let's give them everything they believe.
03:19:26.179 --> 03:19:26.939
[UNKNOWN]: And it's that for.
03:19:27.759 --> 03:19:28.400
[UNKNOWN]: Oh my god.
03:19:29.160 --> 03:19:30.521
[UNKNOWN]: And we got our last one here, man.
03:19:30.581 --> 03:19:32.022
[UNKNOWN]: Furious Nation with a 4 99.
03:19:32.342 --> 03:19:35.964
[UNKNOWN]: It might be in the ECW relaunch in 2006 sucked.
03:19:36.624 --> 03:19:42.367
[UNKNOWN]: And yeah, CM Punk should have absolutely went over at December to dismember instead of Bobby Lashley.
03:19:43.188 --> 03:20:05.641
[UNKNOWN]: Pro that show was a griegiously fucking horrible and I had it on DVD and I legitimately threw it in the fucking trash That's what that's what Hayman was and Hayman wanted punk to go over That's what happens when you're running to the big bad Vince Pekin Bobby Lashland they're being these w champion But you never worked out that was just awful.
03:20:06.101 --> 03:20:08.803
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what the fuck that was never want to live those days ever again
03:20:10.159 --> 03:20:26.191
[UNKNOWN]: thank you guys very much man thank you for a great show tonight 152 in the books we will be back with the next week we got forbidden door and night of champions to talk about so it should be a good show next week as always I will leave it up to this man right here to sound us off for another Tuesday night
03:20:27.586 --> 03:20:29.748
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I saw Toy Story 5 last week.
03:20:30.688 --> 03:20:32.069
[UNKNOWN]: I saw the first four of them.
03:20:32.429 --> 03:20:34.611
[UNKNOWN]: I have yet to see a bad Toy Story movie.
03:20:34.631 --> 03:20:36.893
[UNKNOWN]: And then it made like a good Jillian dollars this week.
03:20:36.973 --> 03:20:39.334
[UNKNOWN]: Like $312 million or something.
03:20:40.195 --> 03:20:40.876
[UNKNOWN]: But I saw it.
03:20:41.916 --> 03:20:42.597
[UNKNOWN]: I enjoyed it.
03:20:43.417 --> 03:20:45.479
[UNKNOWN]: There's a fun cameo.
03:20:45.519 --> 03:20:49.522
[UNKNOWN]: If you listen to the voice of one of the new characters, you'll probably recognize who it is.
03:20:50.932 --> 03:20:55.793
[UNKNOWN]: And the way I would sum it up is it was a movie that did not have to be made, but I'm glad it was.
03:20:56.453 --> 03:20:59.214
[UNKNOWN]: And if you're on the fence, I encourage you to go see it.
03:20:59.234 --> 03:21:04.415
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they could have stopped after the third one, but doesn't mean it's a bad movie.
03:21:04.495 --> 03:21:05.715
[UNKNOWN]: I had a lot of fun watching it.
03:21:05.795 --> 03:21:06.535
[UNKNOWN]: There you go.
03:21:06.595 --> 03:21:07.695
[UNKNOWN]: I have to check that one out.
03:21:09.336 --> 03:21:11.216
[UNKNOWN]: Big Toy Story fan, that's great to know.
03:21:11.876 --> 03:21:16.997
[UNKNOWN]: Usually as they continue to go on, they get worse, but you know, like you said, there's never a bad movie.
03:21:17.595 --> 03:21:33.368
[UNKNOWN]: It's unbelievable like it's the only movie franchise I know of where, like on Rotten Tomatoes, every movie is like minimum 94% and every movie or every opening weekend, I think every opening weekend that it's had.
03:21:34.349 --> 03:21:40.394
[UNKNOWN]: From the first one to the current one, the new one has been more than what the previous one did.
03:21:41.035 --> 03:21:43.637
[UNKNOWN]: Now what other movie series when you get to a
03:21:46.006 --> 03:21:46.826
[UNKNOWN]: is still doing that.
03:21:47.087 --> 03:21:47.487
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
03:21:48.007 --> 03:21:48.967
[UNKNOWN]: It's crazy.
03:21:49.027 --> 03:21:54.330
[UNKNOWN]: I think this should be it, but seeing those numbers, it's going to be very difficult to not want to make a part six.
03:21:55.010 --> 03:21:55.890
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we'll see.
03:21:56.351 --> 03:21:57.271
[UNKNOWN]: But thank you very much guys.
03:21:57.291 --> 03:21:59.072
[UNKNOWN]: We'll see you back next week.
03:21:59.132 --> 03:22:04.474
[UNKNOWN]: Next Tuesday for all the coverage of forbidden door and night of champions.
03:22:04.494 --> 03:22:05.635
[UNKNOWN]: We'll have a lot to talk about.
03:22:06.015 --> 03:22:07.576
[UNKNOWN]: You guys can catch us tomorrow night.
03:22:08.096 --> 03:22:10.357
[UNKNOWN]: Wednesday night dynamite on respective channels.
03:22:11.401 --> 03:22:12.982
[UNKNOWN]: We've got to go home, show off for a bit in Dora.
03:22:13.583 --> 03:22:16.265
[UNKNOWN]: Follow Jason on social media, everything you need is linked down below.
03:22:16.865 --> 03:22:19.668
[UNKNOWN]: Continue to hit that thumbs up and leave a comment down below.
03:22:19.688 --> 03:22:21.249
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, everybody, that donated tonight.
03:22:21.269 --> 03:22:21.769
[UNKNOWN]: We love you.
03:22:21.789 --> 03:22:23.090
[UNKNOWN]: We'll see you next Tuesday right here.
03:22:23.110 --> 03:22:26.253
[UNKNOWN]: Frap is on 153 of Tuesday, and I'll see you guys later.