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Hey guys, welcome to Off the Record Podcast.
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I have, as you may know, LB.
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You guys might know her on uh TikTok, Instagram, mainly YouTube, um, Facebook.
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She's all over social media.
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X, if you have X, she's on there too.
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So all over social media.
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I'm sure you guys are used to seeing us uh fairly often together on like TikTok lives and stuff like that.
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So uh welcome in.
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Thank you for for joining me.
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Thank you for inviting me because this is one of your first.
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I mean, I'm not the first, but it's one of your first episodes for uh your your your your new your podcast, your new podcast.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I'm excited.
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I'm excited that you thought uh enough of me to send me an invite.
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Yes, I well, I mean, you know, it's it's you're one of my greatest friends that I've I've had on here.
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We've uh we've been friends for a very long time.
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Um and I'm sure that a lot of people wonder how they're they have very different personalities.
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And we have different opinions about some things too.
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So right, right.
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And so I'm sure that a lot of people are like, how has that how does that dynamic work?
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I I always believe opposites attract, like you know, I feel like if your personalities are are too close together, they're probably gonna clash.
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Um, and so I see nothing wrong with it.
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I I like our dynamic.
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I feel like we balance each other out too, and I feel like it stays respectful.
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So uh, like if we do have a disagreement on certain people that we cover, I feel like we are good enough with each other that like I'll tell you my opinion, you tell me your opinion, but it stays respectful.
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So there's never anything to get mad about because even though we have different opinions on people, we still respect, like, okay, that's their opinion, they're coming at me respectful, so it's fine.
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Um that's all that I because I'm like we the internet is just full of opinions.
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I love that.
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Like, I love to hear other people's opinions and I love to hear why they have that opinion, and sometimes it can sway my opinion if I hear information that I didn't know, you know.
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So I love hearing other people's opinions and I welcome that as long as it's respectful.
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You know, there's pages that if you do not have their opinion, you're gonna get, you know, they're gonna block you because they just want the people that agree with them, which whatever, that's fine.
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If they want their section of the internet where people agree with them, that's that's their prerogative.
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Um but I mean I I I always appreciate different opinions as long as it's respectful.
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And I feel like what's so crazy though is we kind of started out like because you you messaged me and was like, I don't remember exactly what happened, but I said something and you messaged me and was like, hey, if you got something to say, you can like you can message me about it.
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And I was like, Do you remember what it was about?
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And I was like, Oh, I'm sorry, like I wasn't trying to be rude about anything.
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Yeah, my apologies.
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It was a topic I think that we were both covering, and you had mentioned me in it, and um, and somebody had sent it to me.
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Like they sent me like the clip of it or whatever, so I went to go watch it and I was like, dang, you know, I like I was like, you know, and so um I knew you before that.
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Like I had watched some of your content before that.
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I didn't have an issue with you.
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I don't remember what it was something I disagreed with you on though.
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It was something, yeah, something happened, and I was like, hey, I just reached out to you and I was like, hey, if you if if you have an issue with me or something, like just come tell me, you know, like just message me and tell me, like, my DMs are open, you know.
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And you were like, no, I don't have an issue with you at all.
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Yeah, I was like, no, no, no, I don't have an issue with you.
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Like, I I was like, I'm sorry if you took it as like me having an issue with you, I just have a different opinion, but no issue with you, like we're good, you know.
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Thank you for reaching out to me.
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Because unfortunately, you know, the job that we have and what we do, a lot of times, which I'm guilty of doing this myself, if um we see somebody with with a different opinion, you know, we'll say something rather than going to them, you know what I'm saying?
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Like, yeah, so I appreciate it that rather than getting mad.
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So when I when I spoke about you and your opinion, it was like my opinion's different, rather than you turning around and then you going on your platform and then speaking on me and being mean about it or saying, Oh, I know Elle's over there talking crap, like I don't care.
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You came to me, you know, which maybe I could have gone to you.
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I could have went to you first and be like, hey, I'm doing this video, we have different opinions, and just letting you know I'm gonna bring your opinion up and I'm gonna give my opinion.
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It's gonna be different, but I'm not meeting any ill intent.
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It's just to talk about how we have different opinions about it.
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I definitely could have done that.
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Um, because I feel like it's so caddy in our little niche, you know.
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Um, I don't know if it's like that everywhere, but I feel like it's really caddy.
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Like people will get offended, and the next thing you know, is like creator against creator, and that sucks.
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Um, so I really appreciate it that you came to me and was like, hey, if you have a problem, you could come to me.
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And I was like, no, no problem.
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We just have different opinions, and that that's fine.
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And I'm sorry if you took it that way.
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So it really started from there.
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You're like, oh girl, okay, like good, you know, right.
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You were like, oh, okay, great, good.
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We're we're good then.
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I'm like, yeah, we're good.
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And it started from there.
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Yeah, yeah, because I like you know, when I started social media, I I honestly thought that it all worked the same.
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I thought everybody took from everybody's stuff.
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I thought, you know, everybody was friendly and everybody got along.
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I didn't know from Adam how how this worked, you know, at all.
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That's so fair because it was the same with me.
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When I started, um I just, you know, I started with makeup and then I went into Team Mom.
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And what I would do every morning if is I would just get up and like get on social media and and check articles to see what people were talking about with like Team Mom.
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And then I would jump on a a YouTube live and be like, oh, this is what's going on.
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And and initially didn't even, and I I know I gave credit, but it wasn't even intentional at first because I didn't even understand, like, okay, this person broke the story.
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You need to make sure you credit them.
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It was just like, oh, this is what's out there about Janelle today.
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So hey guys, this is what Janelle's doing today.
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This is what's out there about Janelle.
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Um, a lot of times though, I would when I got my setup, I would show like whatever I was going off of.
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Like if I was going off Us Weekly, I would show it so people knew where I was getting the information from.
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But I've had I've had people start channels, and this has happened twice to me.
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They take my whole videos and just put on, they're starting a channel where they're taking videos from me and a couple other creators, and I've had to reach out to them and be like, hey, like I understand you're probably trying to make you a page, and like I respect that, but you can't like take my whole lives and just put them on your channel.
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You if you want to use my lives for reference, you you have to pause it every few seconds and like say something, like you just can't like if I'm doing a video about Janelle, you can't take the whole thing and just put it on your page and then grow your page from there.
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Like you have to you know what I'm saying?
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But in the beginning, I really didn't know how it worked.
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Like, I didn't I didn't get it, and I know they don't either.
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So the couple of people that I've had to reach out to, like they it wasn't with ill intent.
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Um but what I will say is that a lot of people don't still don't is I get accused a lot of oh, they just take, you know, she steals from other people's content, and I'm like, it's not stealing as long as you're trying to make sure you give them credit, but that is how this works.
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Like TMZ breaks a story, and they're like, exclusive, TM, and then the before you know it, Us Weekly has written an article an hour later.
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The Daily Mail has written an article an hour later, Radar Online has written an article an hour later, and then before you know it, but what they're saying is TMZ broke the story.
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So a lot of people's like, all she does is take from this and that and this.
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Well, in the beginning, we didn't have sources.
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Right.
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And also people don't understand, like sometimes TMZ, Us Weekly people, they get information from us, and a lot of them don't credit us.
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I noticed that with uh a few articles like Yahoo, like a few articles out there um that made a post and instead of crediting me for it, they didn't.
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They just wrote about the story and they didn't give me any credit for it.
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So it's like, you know, it it goes hand in hand.
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I like you said, I do try my best to to tag people um and credit people where I can.
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If I forget, it's not intentional, and I would hope that they would reach out to me and be like, hey, like, you know, like can you please credit me or whatever?
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Yeah, you know, my bad.
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You know, or sometimes I'm like removing like a caption because I'm like, I don't like that.
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So I like remove it, or I've done it a couple times to the point where I completely forget about the tag because I'm so busy trying to get it all together.
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And we run multiple, like we post, we do TikTok, we do Facebook, we do Instagram.
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So when a story breaks, we're like, oh, let me really let me hardly quickly record that TikTok video.
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And then you're like, let me make the post over on Instagram.
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So it's just because you got when something breaks that you know your audience is gonna want to hear about and you wanna hurry up and get it out, you're just kind of in a scramble thinking about all the platforms you need to put it on, the video you need to record.
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So it's not intentional.
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But one thing that I'm like, these media outlets like TMZ, like Us Weekly, like they know how this works, they know that we get information from each other, but they also know it is important to try to credit and source the information.
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So if they get information from us, try to source, try to credit.
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It is what it is.
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Anytime somebody's gotten anything from me and they didn't credit me, I've either politely messaged them and be like, hey, could you please credit me?
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Or I've not said anything at all if I felt like it probably wasn't intentional.
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Like if I felt like this is somebody that uses my stuff a lot and they always credit me, they didn't this time, it surely wasn't up on purpose.
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I don't automatically go to like they're stealing my stuff.
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You know, like me and you use each other's stuff, and there's probably been a time that I forgot to credit you when using something you broke.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Right, you know, like I mean, you're really good about crediting though.
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I don't, you know, I feel like anytime you've ever used anything that I feel like you are always really good about crediting, but it happens, it does happen to where um, you know, sometimes you're just trying to get everything up and you just forget it is not intentional.
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Um, but it's how it works.
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So the the the people on the outside, you know, the people on Reddit that talk about us that they're like, all they do is take stories from this, and I'm like, where do you think they got it from?
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Like they they yeah, they they may have gotten the exclusive at that time, but the 10 stories before that or the 20 stories before that come from all these other outlets.
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They just they got it from them, wrote their story, and then they credited them.
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It's not like TNZ is breaking every single story that they put out there publicly.
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And also a lot of stories that we get or hear, there's times where we're told, don't don't talk about it.
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Like, please don't talk about it right now.
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I'm not ready for this to be out.
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And somehow it gets out, right?
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Somehow it gets out.
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And at that point, it's like, okay, well, can I it's already out there, can I talk about it now?
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You know, and it's like, yeah, go ahead.
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It's it's already out.
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Like I have no control.
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And so at that point, right, we try to respect if we can, if we're told this, but we're told not to talk about it, we try to respect that.
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If it's already out in the public, granted, it's it's kind of like a I don't want to say like a free-for-all, but it's like fair game, right?
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At that point.
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So exactly so at that point, we're just we're just doing our job.
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And so um I don't think that a lot of people realize that it's like, oh, you're copying um, or you you got the story from like I've I've heard that, oh, you got the story from so and so.
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No, I I've been sitting on this story.
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I just yeah, I just can't say anything.
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I knew it before they put it out.
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I knew it before they put it out.
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I just couldn't say anything.
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I was waiting I was not gonna say anything unless it came out, but now that it's out, I can talk about it.
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I knew this information before that that's happened to both of us, and we've talked about stuff like this behind the scenes.
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We've talked about like when the story comes out saying it, yeah, I know about that, but I reached out to you know, and asked, Hey, are you okay with me putting this out?
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Because we do try to be respectful of people, especially when it's like really sensitive stuff.
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Um we try to be respectful, you know, because we do know these this is people's real lives.
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Um, so it ain't about kissing anybody, anybody's butt or being on anybody's payroll, but it's like when we have a source come to us to say, this just happened, and then we contact our source to say, hey, we was told this happened.
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Can you confirm this?
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Yes, it happened.
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Can I, you know, I want to do a story on it.
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Can you please not do a story?
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Like, I really don't want this to get out.
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Okay, fine, not gonna do it.
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But then TMZ finds out somehow, they run with the story, and you're notified, hey TMZ, just put a story out.
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Then you go back and you go, Hey, TMZ put a story out.
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Can I cover this now?
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Well, I guess if it's out, go ahead, sure, whatever.
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Exactly.
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And then you put it out, and people's like, oh, she stole the toys from the story from TMZ.
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No, I did not.
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I did not steal the story from TMZ.
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I already knew about it and just couldn't say anything.
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Yeah.
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That's happened to both of us.
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I I'll say that there's times where even TMZ, right?
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Like uh you uh I've covered true crime like off and on, but you've been pretty uh pretty good with uh not just reality TV, but like true crime, right?
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Um uh what else do you cover?
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Reality TV, true crime.
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I mean, I do a little body language too that kind of mixes in with my reality TV and true crime.
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I mean, that's about it.
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Reality TV and true crime.
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So with that, like you know, you you've covered more than I have in regards to like gypsy rose, right?
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And there's a lot that's been uncovered, uh, and and is still still to this day, like right, more audio clips are coming out, and so as all of this is unfolding, this is a moment, this is the moment where TMZ could post something and be like, hey, all these things are coming out, right?
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But TMZ has been silent.
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Silent.
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I'm like, okay, Gypsy's not that much of like a she's she's not that much of a like a celebrity, right?
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That you have to cover for her, right?
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But she's no, but she's gonna end with TMZ.
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So I think this is my opinion.
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Before she got out of prison, I think Christy was given TMZ the the explosives.
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When she got out of prison, she and Christy were given TMZ the explosives.
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That's why they knew when she announced her divorce, when she left Ryan.
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They knew when she filed, they knew um what her complaints were with Ryan, that he was um a slob and he didn't clean out his kitchen uh or his refrigerator.
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Like they knew all these.
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And I was like, the only person that story can come from is her.
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Like the picture of like pictures of his refrigerator, like, where did that come from?
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Pictures of her at her local Dollar General.
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I promise you, no paparazzi is in cutoff Louisiana at the DG, hoping Gypsy Rose Blanche rolls up, okay?
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So I think Christy took the pictures of Gypsy and sent them to TMZ for a story.
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So I think because she feeds them a lot of information, she also visited the the um Henry TMZ not too long ago.
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So I think because she has given them a lot of stories, exclusives, I think they're just trying not to cover this uh until they absolutely have to.
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Now I have seen, I think like Us Weekly, I think, posted about it.
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Yeah.
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But it's it's not been, you know, I'm thinking this is.
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It's not like it's it's not like world, it's not like out there.
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Right.
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Right.
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I'm like Good Morning America.
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No one's touching it.
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Good morning America should be playing these audios of gypsy admitting that the reason they unalived her mom was so they could be together.
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It was that bottom line, this is why we did it so we could be together.
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The audios of Ryan admitting, you know, to what they did at the school.
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Like, this should be Good Morning America, in my opinion.
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Because it's not on the news, it's not on anything.
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I'm like, you would think that somebody would put it out there and and like share it and somebody please leak it, is all I'm saying.
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Like, this is this is crazy.
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At this point, all these content creators are putting in the work to uh going through these FOIA, listening to these calls, which by the way, a lot of people said, Well, she was at a prison, don't they monitor calls?
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Um, that's not how that works.
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So they they don't have time all day, they should be listening to every single call.
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But unfortunately, they're so low staffed that they don't have time to listen to every single prisoner's phone calls.
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But I guarantee you, had they listened to these phone calls, Ryan, Ryan would have been locked up.
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Ryan would have had the red dot.
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You know what I mean?
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I know, right?
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That's my mom worked as a CO, and I mean, I know, you know, my mom worked at a as a CO at a jail, and um, it was a very small jail, though.
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They had like 60 inmates, you know.
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I mean, in our little bitty town.
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So sometimes my mom would monitor the calls or she would go back and listen to them.
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But it was not, while it tells you these calls are being monitored, it is not consistent, especially in the big prisons where they have way more people, you know, where they have way more prisoners, there they might have somebody, you know, come in every so often, listen here and there, but it's not it's not constant.
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And I think if someone is up for parole, that should be a mandatory to listen to their calls.
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Obviously, you can't listen to all of them if they've been there eight years, but listen to, you know, just pick some randoms, you know, uh this many hours of their calls at random, just to kind of see where their headspace were was at, see what they were talking about.
00:18:57.680 --> 00:18:58.079
Yeah.
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Or even like it, even if they're understaffed, get a volunteer, have volunteers go.
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I like I understand they're understaffed.
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Get volunteers to volunteer.
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Okay, okay, get a volunteer to listen to these calls and p and pick up and say, you know, this is what we're looking for, if this is what you find, or if it sounds like it's any form of of suspicion in any sort of way, or that is breaking the law, etc.
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Let us know.
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You know how many people stay-at-home moms are like, hit me up, let me do something.
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I would love that.
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Especially if you're like, you're gonna listen to Gypsy Rose Blanchard's calls.
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I'm coming.
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Like, I'm good.
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I I'm coming.
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I'm gonna be right there.
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Right?
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I'm I'm honestly shocked.
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I think because the whole world when she got out, especially all these news stations, painted her as such a victim.
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I mean, even when she went on the view, Joy Behar, you know, basically told her what you did, what you had to do.
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And Gypsy's like, uh no, I shouldn't have done that.
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She was like, Well, yeah, she's like, I didn't I shouldn't have on a she's like, Oh, well, yeah, you shouldn't have done that.
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But everybody kind of believed like she was this victim, um, right who was abused.
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Like, everybody believed that.
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And she gets out of prison and she's gone on all these shows, the the these um news shows, you know, Good Morning America, The View, um, Entertainment Tonight, all that.
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So I think it's they really are gonna wait until the very last minute to put this out because it kind of goes against what they were pushing when she first got out of prison.
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So maybe that's one of the reasons they haven't done it yet.
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I mean, I guess.
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I just think like at some point, it it people call us bias, okay?
00:20:42.480 --> 00:20:50.799
People call us bias, but you're you're listening to uh the like the blogs of what page six.
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You're you're reading page six, you're reading people magazine, you're reading TMZ, you're reading all of these articles, but you don't aren't holding them, right?
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The audience isn't holding them accountable, but we as creators who are just out here just giving our little two cents on something, we are held to a higher standard than the magazines that are in the store, then in touch or or whatever.
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That it is it it's it's insane.
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And I honestly I think it's because we are a face, right?
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We are a face to our own brand, right?
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Versus people magazine or or uh in touch or us weekly, they don't have a face, they just have the name, so it's easier for people to point the finger at the face than to whatever the article is that they're reading, right?
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They could just be outraged about the article and then just move on.
00:21:49.519 --> 00:21:53.039
And too, think about this like we have our comment section that's open.
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TMZ, I know TMZ and a couple of outlets have like a little comment section, but how many times have you left a comment on TMZ?
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Like, I didn't even know that some of these had comment sections until I started covering, you know, covering reality.
00:22:06.960 --> 00:22:09.039
Yeah, I didn't I didn't know that.
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And a lot of people probably don't know that.
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A lot of people don't know, like, that TMZ, when you read an article, you can't scroll all the way to the bottom.
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I mean, you gotta get past all the junk, you know, because you have your story and then you have the ads and other stories, so you have to scroll way to the bottom, and then you can leave a comment.
00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:27.680
Um, but a lot of people probably don't know that.
00:22:27.839 --> 00:22:31.119
I never left a comment on a TMZ article before.
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Even if I were read it, I'd be like, oh, this is such BS.
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Like I would have thoughts about it, which is why I would end up going to YouTube and doing a video because I would read an you know article and I would have thoughts about it.
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I never knew that you could leave a comment, but for us, we're putting our videos out there and then real big is like comment section.
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So everybody's leaving their comments, you're biased, you're this, you're that.
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And at this point, I've just kind of learned to accept it, you know.
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Yeah, I I've uh I've only been doing this for for two years, and I really have learned.
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I I was just telling someone else about this yesterday that I have really learned to not really address comments as much as before.
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Like, you know me, like I look at stuff and I'm like, ah, like you don't understand, you know, and I want, I'm like, no, I just want you to understand this, but then I also understand that you can't talk to a brick wall.
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Like you can't, you could try to converse with some people, and some people are willing to have a good conversation.
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Even people that don't like me, they'll be in my comment section and and they'll disagree on certain stuff or agree on certain things, but they're never nasty.
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Some some aren't ever nasty.
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They just they're willing to have the conversation without being nasty, and I'm willing to have those conversations, but the the the comments that are just super cruel and mean and like they just really want to bring you down.
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It's just like, yeah, I don't have the time for that.
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Like, I just I can't I can't that that's so bad for your mental health to just keep arguing with those, right?
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Sometimes I'm like, this seems way too personal.
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Like, I had a somebody leave a comment um under one of my gypsy roast banchers videos uh really going off on me.
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And I was like, Do you know her or something?
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Like, are you a family member?
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Because you seem way too upset about May's opinion, and like I get it, like you you can have your opinion, but the way that you're like attacked because they were like attacking me as a person, you know what I'm saying?
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Do you know her?
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I don't understand why you're so upset.
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Like, she's somebody, I don't know this woman.
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I'm basing my opinion off what I'm seeing and some background information that I have, and so I'm it's kind of I don't mind people having their opinion and you're saying I disagree, L, you're wrong in this.
00:24:46.480 --> 00:24:47.359
That's fine.
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Stay respectful, and you're I try my best not to delete comments.
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My moderators know that we try not to delete comments as long as they're giving our opinions in a respectful way.
00:24:57.920 --> 00:25:02.880
Um, we even kind of allow a little disrespect, just as long as it's not too bad.
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Um yeah, but some I mean, some people, and but you know this, like will be so offended and and be really nasty.
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And I'm like, are you personal, like, are you a family member?
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Like, why are you which I don't know if Gypsy has any family members that were really gonna bat for her at this point.
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Right.
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It is strange, like there's there are some people that are just hardcore, like defend, defend, and and uh, you know, uh I'll give an example, right?
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Like with this whole Amanda Ryan situation, you know, I was friends with Amanda, you know, we were cool, we talked all the time, we FaceTimed, like all the above, right?
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And you know, like there were times where I'm like, I don't agree with this, I don't like this, right?
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But and I would tell her, I like, you know, and but then there were also times where even though she and I were cool, and I'd make a video saying, like, like I didn't agree with this.
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All her people were coming in my comment section acting nuts, and I'm like, yo, like I don't have to agree with everything that she says, but y'all are acting like you live in that house.
00:26:14.240 --> 00:26:16.079
You guys act like you guys know.
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I I probably know more than I should at this point, you know.
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Like, I'm pretty sure it's it's it's okay.
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Now, granted, um I think a lot of people also misunderstood with Amanda, like they thought that Amanda, I knew right that I knew for a long time that what Ryan was doing to her, um, that she accused him of of a on a 911 call, um what the you know, her relapsing, all of that stuff.
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Like people were acting like as if I knew right then and there what was going on.
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Now, granted, you and I had conversations where you were like, I don't know, Ray, like this she hasn't been looking good for a while.
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And I'm just like, really?
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Like, you really think so?
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I like I don't know.
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I don't think I asked her, she's you know, I don't think she'd lie to me.
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Like the you and I had those conversations.
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And that's another thing is you did ask her when people's like, if you're concerned, why don't you go to her and talk to her?
00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:17.599
Or when Amanda has done videos since saying, if you want to know the truth, come to me and ask me.
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Girl, people did.
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Obviously, I'm not gonna go to Amanda and ask her because I know she doesn't like me, you know.
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But you were friends with her and you did go to her, and you did try to talk to her, and you did try to ask her, and she told you she was good, everything was fine, she had not re like she hadn't relapsed, like she was good, so you took it for what it's worth.
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So now when she does a video and she says, if you want to know, come to the source, girl.
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We can't trust you.
00:27:43.599 --> 00:27:48.720
But then the people in the comment section saying if you really were concerned, you could go to Amanda for what?
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Yeah.
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I'm a horrible person, I'm a horrible friend because I was calling her out.
00:27:55.920 --> 00:27:58.480
Um, you know, I I'm like, well, wait a minute.
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Okay, and this is where there's a gray area because I could be friendly with a lot of people on TV, but the people that I'm friendly with also have to understand that this is my job.
00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:14.400
Now, granted, are there times where people are like, Ray, why'd you post that?
00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:16.880
Yeah, and I I have to tell them the same thing.
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I have to do my job.
00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:25.519
You might like what you have to remember that when we got in this this this little contract of of friendliness.
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It was because you saw me talking about you.
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I was doing this, so you can't pay me not to just because we're cool all of a sudden.
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Right.
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Now, granted, it you know, like I'm not gonna go out and air all all your you know stuff and what I'm not gonna do all that.
00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:48.160
What happened when I made a video about Ryan was because Ryan came for me personally.
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When Ryan called me a POS, it triggered me because I thought, I'm the me?
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I'm the POS?
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Like what Appid had your dirty secrets, like what a wife beating addict, and I'm the POS?
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Right, right?
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And not just Amanda, like not just what Amanda had claimed, but also what uh what McKenzie went through.
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So like I'm the POK.
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Okay, cool.
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Like, hey, you know what?
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Then I'm the POS.
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I I will take it.
00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:29.920
I will take it on the chin, but at the end of the day, at least people know that no matter what, I'm gonna be I'm gonna stay true to to myself, right?
00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:34.559
Like, you know that no matter what, I'm always gonna give the benefit of the doubt.
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You know that, L.
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Like, I try my best to give people the benefit of the doubt.
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Maybe I'm too nice sometimes, uh, you know, like I've I've heard so many people tell me like when she when I because I have a lot of addiction in my family, which you do too, but you were really trying to give her the benefit of the doubt.
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And I was like, oh, right, I don't like I'm hearing this, I'm hearing that.
00:29:58.400 --> 00:30:05.359
This is suspicious to me, that is, and you were really trying to hold off that maybe it wasn't that, that it was something else.
00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:08.720
You went to her, you talked to her, you asked her, she told you no.
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So you really tried until until you really couldn't, you know.
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And so I mean it that at the point that you finally was like, okay, um, other creators too, like were coming, like other creators kind of joined in, and we all kind of collectively were like, okay, this is enough.
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Like, we have to stop, we have to say something that's suspicious here and something that's off.
00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:31.519
And um, yeah, because at that point I'm an enabler.
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And it's hard because you've established like a a friendship with her, and she confided in you with things, and it's because of her, because of my mom.
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Like, my mom was an addict, my mom died an addict, and I thought, you know, one thing I wish people did was give my mom more of a chance, or I wish that back then it was okay to say, I'm going through stuff, let me see a therapist, or I I need to be able to work through this, let me see a therapist, or let me talk through my feelings.
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I wish that those were things that she had that she didn't have.
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And so I when I was talking to Amanda, those were things that I saw.
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And I had you and other people that told me, like, that's but that's not your mom.
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Like it's just not the same, right?
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And it it took me until until there was no looking back, like you couldn't see it was a train wreck that I was like, I I can't defend this anymore.
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:31.519
Like I I can't do that.
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I'm I'm causing more harm by pretending like it doesn't exist, and that's the hard thing.
00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:47.759
Like, um, when you say, you know, I I I was like becoming an enabler, I think about Jenna Larry too.
00:31:47.920 --> 00:32:06.400
Um, when you have a loved one or a friend that is in addiction in recovery, and it's so hard because you know, you have these group of people that are um in in sobriety, they're they've struggled with addiction, and you have them all on the internet saying, This is what we don't need.
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We need the support, we don't need to be accused of be of relapsing.
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But then you also are like, okay, but if I'm seeing something, can I not say anything?
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Because I don't need to accuse them of relapsing.
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:21.119
That was one thing that I dealt with when I started speaking out, saying, No, like it doesn't look good.
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People's like, you should not question somebody's sobriety.
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And I'm like, oh, but doesn't that make me an enabler?
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Like, if I never say anything and I just continue to see things and see things, and I'm like, Because I'm like, addiction thrives in secrecy.
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Like, that's what they need.
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They need for everybody to turn a blind eye.
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And I do think sometimes they use the whole don't question us because it could we're we're sober.
00:32:47.839 --> 00:33:00.960
And if you question us, it could make us relapse when they've already relapsed, but they're using that to make you feel guilty, so where you don't question them when in reality that and like Amanda's sister said, she had been relapsed for a year.
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Amanda said, Amanda's sister said, and I mean, take it for what you want, because she's been telling the truth, because she had been exaggerating or whatever, but she said that Amanda had been relapsed for like a year, and that Ryan had relapsed as well.
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So I mean, and and people have been saying things for a few months.
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I've been saying stuff for maybe about two, three months, just kind of questioning things.
00:33:26.480 --> 00:33:37.599
Um, and it was like, you know, you have all the people on the internet, not all, but a large portion of them that are in addiction, uh, sobriety saying, Don't you how dare you?
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Do not do that.
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But then you do have a few other people saying, you know, I am in recovery and no, I'm seeing this too.
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And if we don't say anything, it's just gonna enable us.
00:33:48.079 --> 00:33:50.880
So it is this very and we're content creators, okay?
00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:55.279
We're not their parents, but for you, you did have a friendship with Amanda.
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So, but we it is this like it's hard to balance.
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Like, okay, I'm seeing something, I'm seeing something.
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I I can't say nothing because she's in recovery, and if I say anything, that could push her over the edge, and I don't want to be the reason she's pushed over the edge, you know.
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So it's really hard to tow that line.
00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:12.480
And then you have all the people in the internet like calling you out.
00:34:12.639 --> 00:34:21.599
If you and Amanda had her fans, she had a lot of fans that would ride or die for her, which I don't think she does anymore, right?
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:26.639
I've like I think that it's like it's it has dwindled a lot.
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Yes, it's dwindled.
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And especially with all the other news, I especially, I mean, when uh she was driving, she got the DUI and having Presley in the car.
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Like, how can you how can you defend that?
00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:47.679
You know, a a mother putting their their own child, let alone anyone, anyone on the road, anyone just trying to safely get home uh to their families, a a child.
00:34:47.760 --> 00:35:00.400
I mean, I read on on the news uh quickly off topic, but around the news that uh there was someone that was drinking and driving and a soldier coming home to surprise his family, and he he dies.
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No.
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Yeah, I mean, she dies also in the collision, but I think it was a content creator, but she she dies, but he dies also.
00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:16.000
He was he was driving home, he was he was driving late because he had just gotten home, he wanted to surprise his family and he couldn't come home.
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:21.920
Those are the kind of things, right, that people aren't thinking about is innocent lives are being put at risk.
00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:31.760
Amanda is lucky, she's lucky that she made it, her daughter made it, and that everyone on the road made it.
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:33.519
Like she's she's lucky, right?
00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:38.320
Because I don't think that I just don't think she's taking it seriously.
00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:39.599
Right.
00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:47.840
I really don't think because okay, when I started on the internet, I know um I've always wore my seatbelt, I've always made my kids wear their seatbelt.
00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:54.079
But when I first started, I actually went live a couple of times, like on Instagram or something, and I would just drive and talk.
00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:57.920
I wouldn't like look, but very quickly, people was like, L, do not do that.
00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:03.920
Um and I'm like, oh, it's kind of I'm not really I'm not reading the comments, I'm just talking, you know, and they're like, no, like you don't need distraction.
00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:04.880
And I'm like, okay, you're right.
00:36:05.039 --> 00:36:06.079
So I quit doing it.
00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:07.920
I quit going live.
00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:09.440
And that was me.
00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:13.679
I I I probably did it twice, maybe twice.
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:19.920
And people was like, No, um, don't, you know, you don't, and I'm like, you're right, I don't need the distractions.
00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:23.039
And this was this is like 2019, 2020.
00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:33.119
Amanda, when she she would literally like film and uh be like hit changing background, hands not on.
00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:39.679
I mean, so much of that there were people in the comment section saying she must have a self-driving car because she ain't put her hands on the wheel in five minutes, you know?
00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:47.119
And I'm like, even after her arrest, she filmed a couple of videos like driving.
00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:49.760
She used to not wear her seatbelt very often.
00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:51.599
She was sometimes, but not all the time.
00:36:51.760 --> 00:37:05.599
Um, and I know there's this one video where she said something like, Oh, I'm not on a main road, and you could see like main road, she was on a main road, and I'm like, we don't see this, like, is she not like what?
00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:08.639
Like we can see it.
00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:11.280
And I don't have an excuse for that.
00:37:11.360 --> 00:37:20.079
Like, I like I I before I was like, Oh, you know, it's it's it I'm so so dumb, so blind.
00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:43.360
I I and I this is also why I have learned like I love the people I talk to, but at the same time, I have to I have to separate right, I have to separate that because there were so many lines that she'd crossed and I wasn't really seeing it until I finally saw it.
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:49.119
And so um no, lots of lots of lives at risk, her own.
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:50.079
Her own.
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:57.760
It's just it's but you're right, like like like you said earlier, her fan base has has definitely gone down.
00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:04.960
Um, especially like I said, the DUI thing, this thing with Ryan um losing uh custody.
00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:09.599
Uh McKinsey now has uh emergency custody of the kids.
00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:13.119
Um Ryan has to take fingernail testing.
00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:18.159
Um for I don't know if I can say, like, can I say rugs?
00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:19.440
Like, or can I say I don't know.
00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:20.719
I don't know how how YouTube works.
00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:25.519
I don't want to get in trouble, but um but yeah, he he can I think you can say it.
00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:27.119
Oh, well, just in case.
00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:29.440
Rugs, okay, trying to get in trouble.
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:35.440
By the way, a lot of people get upset because they're like, you could say A-B-U-S-I-V-E, which I'm not gonna say.
00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:38.639
You could say D-R-U-G, you can say these words.
00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:40.079
You don't have to baby these words.
00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:43.679
I want people to understand content creators get in trouble.
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:45.039
They we get dinged.
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:50.559
Our view count doesn't go up, or they take our video down for violating community guidelines.
00:38:50.800 --> 00:39:00.559
We cannot say certain words because they are trigger words, and those trigger words can cause us to lose the video or lose our page.
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:02.480
So I'm not gonna lose my page.
00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:05.920
Uh I I will I will happily spell it out, okay?
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:07.519
I've had people say the same thing.
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:09.199
Like, why are we babying these words?
00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:11.360
Oh my god, we're saying pew- pew now.
00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:12.719
Like, how ridiculous.
00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:15.440
I'm like, listen, saying pew pew is ridiculous.
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:20.400
That's the word that that's the word TikTok decided to use, so everybody would know what what we're talking about.
00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:43.039
And yes, I have to unfortunately, because like you said, when you're in the creator rewards program, um or even if you're not, probably even if you're not, and you say these words, it can affect your views, you can still get in trouble for community guidelines, but especially if you're in the creator rewards program where you do get paid for your stuff, you really don't lose your page, you know?
00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:47.360
Um, so and they have an AI system that can pick up this stuff.
00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:49.519
So uh you have to be very careful.
00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:56.880
We're not listening do you think we want to stop and spell it out and then be like, Wait, am I spelling it right?
00:39:56.960 --> 00:40:08.239
You know, like A B U Do you think we want to be like I'm like, well, wait, wait, yes, I'm like I'm like, A, B, U, S, I, B, E, D.
00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:08.960
Okay.
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:10.480
Um, you know what I'm saying?
00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:12.079
Like, we don't want to do that.
00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:18.239
We would much rather just say being accused of A, you know, what he did.
00:40:18.400 --> 00:40:21.679
Um, our people would have that we would much rather do that.
00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:27.760
But we have to take care of like our business, protect our our page, and we have to follow the guidelines.
00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:28.800
And that's just what it says.
00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:34.559
I just wanted to bring that up because I feel like I feel like a lot of people don't understand why we do that.
00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:38.559
And so I was like, you know what, now that I'm saying this, let me let me explain why.
00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:46.719
Because a lot of people get annoyed with that, and it's not intentional, it's or well, it is intentional, but it's intentional so that we aren't getting in trouble.
00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:49.440
So take it as it is.
00:40:49.679 --> 00:41:01.199
But yeah, so Ryan has to do these fingernail um clippings, and so um it so the fingernail clippings go back three to six months, right?
00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:12.000
And he's being tested for uh for kratom or 7-0 or something like that, and and whatever combinations are in that have to do with opioids, right?
00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:22.559
And so because they have to do with opioids, um it's that's why they're they're testing for it, but also why it's no longer uh legal in Tennessee.
00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:26.079
Yeah, they outlawed it like July 1st, I think.
00:41:26.159 --> 00:41:28.239
I think is when they passed the law.
00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:29.280
Yeah.
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:34.960
But there was there's been rumors that Ryan and Amanda were doing that for a few months.
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:40.480
Yeah, I I know that uh that that was like for like months.
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:41.039
Yeah.
00:41:41.280 --> 00:41:47.599
Months, almost uh, almost like at the early stages or early beginning of the year, right?
00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:54.559
I mean, because maybe further back than that, because do you remember when we heard that Ryan lost his job?
00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:55.440
Yeah.
00:41:56.400 --> 00:42:01.920
And it was the job that he had had since he got out of rehab and kind of gotten himself together.
00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:03.199
He had had this job.
00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:08.320
Um, I'm not gonna say where it is, but he had been there for like two years or so.
00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:18.880
And uh we heard that he lost his job because he was doing Kratom and he had given it to um a few people at work and it made them sick.
00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:20.800
Uh, so he lost his job.
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:26.000
And um then I think Amanda came out to say, Oh, that's not why he lost his job.
00:42:26.159 --> 00:42:36.079
He lost it because um corporate came in and realized that he didn't have the proper license to do what he needed to do, whatever.
00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:46.079
Um, and so I reached out to my sources and I was like, Amanda is saying that corporate came in, and that's why, and they're like, There is no corporate, it's uh it's privately owned.
00:42:46.239 --> 00:42:47.599
Like I know the guy that owns it.
00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:55.440
Like it's probably so then I looked up the business license, and it's not a corporation, it's just um You are such a sleuth.
00:42:56.079 --> 00:42:57.360
You're such a detective.
00:42:57.519 --> 00:42:58.000
I love it.
00:42:58.159 --> 00:42:59.679
You're such a detective.
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:03.280
I know, and people hate me on the internet for it, not everybody.
00:43:03.440 --> 00:43:06.880
Some people's like, Can you believe she checked the weather?
00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:13.599
I'm sorry, but yeah, uh that's why I called boyfriends cheating on me back in the day because I broke into their voicemails, okay?
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:16.800
And people say that how can they trust us or whatever?
00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:18.639
You have to do the work.
00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:25.679
Yeah, like don't you want me to try to figure things out and dig and and sorry?
00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:46.800
I mean, but Amanda saying that he was fired, like first off, her story didn't make sense anyways, because he had been there for like two and a half years, and corporate comes in after that long and fires him and didn't know about his license situation, and and and to the fact that she said they let like four or five other people go when I was told that he had given like four other guys and they all got sick.
00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:55.039
So it also made sense that like that's why maybe they were all let go, because they were all on that, you know, and and unwell at work.
00:43:55.280 --> 00:44:05.039
Um but yeah, people get mad and act like we're being But at the same time, I'm like, well, a lot of people appreciate us for doing that.
00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:07.599
That if we hear something, we're gonna try to check into it.
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:09.440
We're gonna try to verify it.
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:12.480
There might be some people that don't like that and think we're doing too much.
00:44:12.639 --> 00:44:13.440
Okay, fine.
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:14.880
Okay, don't follow me.
00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:20.000
Go to somebody that won't take to do the extra work and go the extra mile and just take their word for it.
00:44:20.159 --> 00:44:20.639
I don't care.
00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:23.039
If I can kind of prove that I want to.
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:26.639
Somebody called me gross uh yesterday.
00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:40.239
Uh somebody called me gross yesterday on a comment on Instagram because I spoke about um like Ryan no longer having like custody or whatever, and then like that the kids have to stay away from Manda and stuff.
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:42.800
And she was like, like, this is gross.
00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:44.559
Like, don't you think this is wrong, blah blah.
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:47.119
And so I look, because I look at her their page, right?
00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:49.039
When they say something like that, I'm gonna go to your page.
00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:49.760
Me too.
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:52.880
If you follow me, you follow me, I'm gonna screenshot it.
00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:56.480
Because if they say I never followed you, well, I now I got the screenshot.
00:44:56.719 --> 00:45:01.280
So then I go to the comment section, I go, then why do you follow me?
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:03.039
And then instant unfollow.
00:45:03.119 --> 00:45:16.159
It's like what if you don't like what I'm posting, but you're following every single person I talk about, you're following all the other T pages that talk about it, but yet I'm gross for talking about it.
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:19.840
Is it is it that I'm gross or you just don't like me personally?
00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:23.360
And if you don't like me personally, why are you taking it all personal anyway?
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:26.480
What I think the problem is, is they obviously like the tea.
00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:37.039
They obviously like being in people's business because they're following all your pages, all the other tea pages, all the people that we cover, they're so they obviously don't think it's gross to be all involved in other people's business.
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:44.079
What it is, is probably they were a supporter of Amanda and didn't like your opinion or don't like that this is happening.
00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:55.679
So rather than saying, you know, uh I support Amanda, I hate this is happening, I wish Mac wouldn't have done that, blah, blah, blah, blah, they're gonna say you're gross when literally that they like the tea because they're following all the tea pages.
00:45:55.920 --> 00:45:57.599
But I think the same thing happened.
00:45:57.679 --> 00:46:01.679
Somebody commented on my page um not too long ago, and my kids thought this was hilarious.
00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:06.480
They said uh it wasn't even on my page, it was on somebody else's page that I came across it.
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:10.480
And um they said, Oh my god, that LB girl is so annoying.
00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:13.599
And so I clicked on her page, and of course it said follow back.
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:17.679
And but before I clicked on her page, I commented and I was like, Oh my god, I know, right?
00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:18.480
She is so annoying.
00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:23.119
I can't believe she has like over 400,000 followers collectively, you know, like so annoying.
00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:23.440
How?
00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:24.800
Like, who would follow this girl?
00:46:24.960 --> 00:46:27.280
So then I click on her page and it says follow back.
00:46:27.360 --> 00:46:32.400
And I'm like, You're one of the followers, and I'm so annoying.
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:37.039
So I screenshot it and I posted and I said, wait a minute, this you?
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:39.039
And my kids thought that was hilarious.
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:46.480
That um, like I I screenshotted the fact that they follow me, and I was like, wait a minute, this you um I didn't go back to see if they unfollowed me.
00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:53.280
I just thought that why are you following me to then go to another creator's page to say that I'm annoying?
00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:59.039
Then don't or like as if we're not gonna see it, or like we don't have other followers that are gonna see it and send it to us.
00:46:59.519 --> 00:47:01.039
We uh we get that a lot.
00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:04.960
I think a lot of people think I'm going, I'm gonna go on somebody's page.
00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:07.440
No, first of all, I'm not going to that page.
00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:08.480
You're sending me.
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:11.920
If you're sending me this stuff, okay, I see it, whatever.
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:17.679
I have learned, especially throughout this this year.
00:47:18.400 --> 00:47:27.360
I have learned that if people want to talk about me or that they don't like me or whatever, God bless.
00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:32.800
If they want to keep talking about me all day long, many blessings to you.
00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:33.519
You know what I mean?
00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:36.000
I want to talk about people on TV.
00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:42.480
I don't want to talk about creators, unless it's like a creator like Michaela uh Nogiera.
00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:43.679
I fine.
00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:45.039
I'll like I'll talk about her all day.
00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:52.559
People that are purposely becoming influencers, people that are purposely putting their private lives out there for entertainment.
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:55.039
Like if you're just we're on the same page with this.
00:47:55.199 --> 00:48:01.760
If you are just a creator that's covering other people, you're not putting your life and your personal business out there for us to judge.
00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:11.679
We're not trying to judge you, we're not trying to cover you, we're only trying to cover the people that are putting their life out there for for us to critique, for for our entertainment.
00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:13.119
We're giving opins on them.
00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:21.519
We've both talked about how we're not trying to like go after creators that they're just doing the same thing as us, they're not putting their private lives out there, right?
00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:23.280
Um, yeah, so yeah.
00:48:23.519 --> 00:48:26.239
Sorry, I cut you off, but no, no, no, that's fine.
00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:27.760
I'm I feel like I've been doing that too.
00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:28.239
Sorry.
00:48:28.960 --> 00:49:00.320
Like it, I I just if like you said, we're not putting our private lives out there, we're just here to get there's room for everyone, and I think that that is the the biggest problem is that one of the things that creators do, and not intentionally, but they allow for their following to kind of encourage, you know, or they try to nitpick certain things and then they go to encourage that the animosity when we when it's not needed.
00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:10.719
And I think that if we're so busy looking at if I see somebody tags another creator on my thing now, I'm okay, cool, you tag them, whatever, you know.
00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:13.920
Um, if if you send it to them, great, you send it to them, whatever.
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:15.119
I don't I don't care.
00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:17.519
I'm talking about a topic, right?
00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:32.239
And I've had uh so many I've had a lot of of followers that have said, I love when I love that even though I follow creators that don't agree with each other, they're able to all get along.
00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:37.280
Like because they they don't have they can't pick like a favorite because they like everybody.
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:38.559
And and that's fair.
00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:46.960
And I don't think it's it's fair to put that on on viewers that are watching us and and but I don't I don't need all of that.
00:49:49.360 --> 00:50:01.840
Because if they're if if they're watching this creator and she's trash talking the other creator, but you like that creator, then you I've had several people come to me and say, I used to watch this person, but they talk so much crap about you, and I liked you.
00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:08.159
I like them too, outside of them talking about you, but I had to unfollow them because they just trash talked you so much.
00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:15.360
I've had people tell me that, and I'm like, listen, you don't have to unfollow if you like their content, you just don't like the fact that they talk about me.
00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:17.840
You don't have to follow them for the content you like.
00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:23.840
When you hear them turn on a video and they're talking about me, you know, don't watch that one, but you don't have to unfollow them on account of me.
00:50:24.239 --> 00:50:43.039
There were creators that I didn't even like really get along with that I encouraged do get social media, get other social medias, like expand your horizons, you know, gain other followers and get other perspectives and and all like I said, the floor I believe is is open, it's open for everyone.
00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:55.599
Um there's room for everyone to grow, and everyone uh is gonna have their own people that love them, and and that's okay, and then they'll have people that don't like them, right?
00:50:55.760 --> 00:50:56.320
We know that.
00:50:56.480 --> 00:50:58.480
So um and and that's okay too.
00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:00.559
It is what it is, and life goes on.
00:51:00.719 --> 00:51:16.960
And I I just wish that um I just wish that our viewers or followers wouldn't encourage animosity between you know me or you or me and you uh against other people.
00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:27.599
Um I wish that people wouldn't do that because you and I are on the same page of we can all do the same thing and and coexist, you know?
00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:28.159
Right.
00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:36.559
Yeah, you know what um really uh bothered me is I've caught this a couple of times.
00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:53.599
Like I have went live on TikTok and have people in my chat just being so nice, talking to me, and then later um I'll be scrolling TikTok, I'll come across a page and see those same people in that commenting about me.
00:51:53.840 --> 00:51:57.039
And I'm like, you were just in my live last night.
00:51:57.280 --> 00:52:10.480
You were literally just in my live last night, chatting it up, acting like you don't have an issue with me, and now you're over here talking about me and twisting what I said, like I think a lot of it has to do with like acceptance.
00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:20.320
I think a lot of people need to feel important and need to feel accepted in all aspects, or like need to feel liked, you know.
00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:25.679
Social media has kind of taken over that, right?
00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:30.639
Where it's like you have to be liked or you need to feel important by your comment being liked.
00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:41.840
Yeah, yeah, because if they go to a creator's page that everybody knows don't like me, and the video is talking about me within they comment, like, oh yeah, I was watching LB last night and she said blah blah blah blah blah.
00:52:42.079 --> 00:52:52.400
Well, the majority of the people watching probably isn't gonna like me, so they're gonna get a lot of likes or a lot of comments back, and yeah, so they get their the attention that they need, you know.
00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:53.519
Right, right.
00:52:53.599 --> 00:52:55.599
And it's it's sad, it's sad, really.
00:52:55.679 --> 00:53:05.599
Like, you know, I there's a lot of people that I know that they are friends with ever they're well like with everyone, right?
00:53:05.679 --> 00:53:19.920
They're friends with everyone, they don't have like a uh there's not like a disdain with anyone, they keep it very chill and they'll engage with everyone's stuff, but as soon as you talk negative about another person, like another creator, they just leave it alone.
00:53:20.159 --> 00:53:22.079
And I can resp I can respect that.
00:53:22.239 --> 00:53:36.320
I can respect that if you're like, hey, like I'm engaging in all the positivity and I want to see you grow and I want to see you accomplish and be big, like do big things and all like whatever it is that your endeavors are, like I want to help encourage that.
00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:45.440
But when it comes to you know bringing like another creator down because you dislike them or whatever or or disagree, that's where I'm just not going to engage.
00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:47.519
And and I I respect that.
00:53:47.679 --> 00:53:48.639
I can respect that.
00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:50.719
Same, me too.
00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:53.760
I think that's probably the best way, probably to be.
00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:58.960
Um, I mean, when I like you said when we first started, when you came into this, you thought everybody got along.
00:53:59.119 --> 00:54:00.400
Like me too.
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:12.000
Like, I I thought all creators were cool with each other, and but what I found, especially uh seven years into this, is there is a lot of jealousy, you know.
00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:27.039
Um, even not even amongst creators, but among creators with people over on Twitter that release information that have their sources, or even media outlets that were used to having all the exclusives.
00:54:27.280 --> 00:54:31.119
Then you have these content creators that come up and now they're getting exclusives here and there.
00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:40.000
Well, it's got that, you know, one person over on X that is used to having the exclusives or knowing all the behind the scenes upset and not liking this content creator.
00:54:40.159 --> 00:54:54.719
Um, because now they're getting and the only thing I can imagine that the problem is, is because there's never been any like issues between the people is like, oh, well, they're upset that they're not one of the only ones breaking stories and having behind the scene scenes information.
00:54:54.960 --> 00:54:58.239
Now these content creators have it and they don't like them all of a sudden.
00:54:58.639 --> 00:55:00.719
So is that the is that the problem?
00:55:01.039 --> 00:55:09.760
You're upset because for a long time people knew, like, oh, go on X and this person has the tea for this person.
00:55:09.840 --> 00:55:14.320
They have, you know, they got somebody behind the scenes because they're always spilling the tea and it's stuff that nobody knows.
00:55:14.559 --> 00:55:26.320
Then you all of a sudden have a content creator that comes up on TikTok that has behind the scenes information, and now this person over on X don't like them and is trying to discredit them and is crap talking them.
00:55:26.559 --> 00:55:29.599
Um, I'm just like there's enough for everybody, like you said.
00:55:29.679 --> 00:55:31.760
There's enough the floor is big enough for everybody.
00:55:31.840 --> 00:55:40.400
There, there's plenty of room for all of us out here to um to talk about the people that we watch and the reality TV shows that we enjoy.
00:55:41.920 --> 00:55:48.079
It's it's wild to me that people always feel the need to have issues, but that's what happened.
00:55:48.320 --> 00:55:58.320
What do you what do you think is like the the hardest part uh for you when it comes to uh content creating?
00:56:03.119 --> 00:56:10.000
I would probably say in the beginning, um, was people attacking me for my opinion?
00:56:10.159 --> 00:56:11.280
That was definitely the beginning.
00:56:11.519 --> 00:56:20.000
People, um, I would put my content out there and then the comment section would, you know, you're a hater, uh, let her live her life.
00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:22.960
Um, people attacking me just for having an opinion.
00:56:23.119 --> 00:56:24.639
And it would be personal attacks, though.
00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:29.920
I mean, I can't tell you how many times people commented in the beginning that I was the R word.
00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:32.079
Or did you even graduate high school?
00:56:32.239 --> 00:56:33.280
You sound like a hick.
00:56:33.599 --> 00:56:35.199
Listen to you, little country bumpkin.
00:56:35.280 --> 00:56:37.039
I was comments.
00:56:37.280 --> 00:56:52.159
I got so many comments in the beginning about like the fact that I sounded like um I guess my accent, I didn't even know that my accent was that bad until I started YouTube, and I got so many comments from people asking if I even graduated.
00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:54.400
There was comments that did you marry your cousin?
00:56:55.039 --> 00:56:55.519
What?
00:56:56.159 --> 00:56:57.360
Yes, yes.
00:56:57.599 --> 00:56:59.440
People asking if I marry are you from Alabama?
00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:00.400
Like, why do you sound like that?
00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:02.480
And I'm like, is it that bad?
00:57:02.639 --> 00:57:04.480
Is my accent that listen?
00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:06.400
I I love an accent, okay?
00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:09.119
I love especially like a a southern accent.
00:57:09.280 --> 00:57:10.880
Oh, I love a southern accent.
00:57:11.920 --> 00:57:20.960
My my husband has a really strong southern accent, and I thought, um, but I didn't know that mine was bad at all until I got on the internet.
00:57:21.039 --> 00:57:24.400
And then there was people like, yeah, I mean you have an accent, but it's cute, I love it.
00:57:24.559 --> 00:57:31.280
But other people so in the beginning that was really hard because I come from a small town.
00:57:31.519 --> 00:57:34.800
Um, I have always been able to make friends really easily.
00:57:34.960 --> 00:57:42.239
I've never had I've never had issues with people really that was like long lasting.
00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:48.880
Um you know, little arguments here and there in school, you know, with your friend.
00:57:49.280 --> 00:57:51.280
But it was never anything long-lasting.
00:57:51.519 --> 00:57:58.320
So uh cut to come into the internet and then you have people like telling you to shut up and mind your own business.
00:57:58.480 --> 00:58:00.639
Um, oh, you're bored, why don't you get a real job?
00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:01.360
Things like that.
00:58:01.519 --> 00:58:05.360
Um, but now I've kind of learned to just be like it, whatever, it is what it is.
00:58:05.840 --> 00:58:21.920
Honestly, I would say some of the hardest parts about content creating now is the other creators that rather than focusing on the people that are selling their lives for our entertainment, rather than focusing on them, is then focusing on me.
00:58:22.079 --> 00:58:30.320
Or you know, you know what I'm talking about too, because uh when a creator spends a week just making content about me.
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:31.840
And I'm like, I don't understand why.
00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:34.000
I don't like I'm not worried about you.
00:58:34.079 --> 00:58:37.920
I'm doing my thing, you do your thing, you're attacking me because you don't agree with my opinion.
00:58:38.159 --> 00:58:44.400
I don't agree with your opinion either, but I'm not attacking you because I understand this is the internet, you're entitled to your opinion.
00:58:44.639 --> 00:59:01.519
To me, when a creator starts attacking another creator just because they have a different opinion, I'm like, so you want um what do they call it, where you only you think the internet should be filled with opinions that are just like yours.
00:59:01.679 --> 00:59:03.119
You even though this is the internet.
00:59:04.639 --> 00:59:05.360
What is it called?
00:59:05.440 --> 00:59:06.719
Uh like an echo chamber?
00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:08.239
What?
00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:09.760
Like an echo chamber?
00:59:10.480 --> 00:59:11.519
Yes, an echo chamber.
00:59:11.679 --> 00:59:16.320
I'm like, you think the whole internet should be an echo chamber to your beliefs and your opinions?
00:59:16.559 --> 00:59:17.280
The whole internet.
00:59:17.840 --> 00:59:29.679
Because remember, like, we're all content, like, I'm a content creator, you're a content creator, they are uh you know, we have so many content creators in our little niche, and that's what I like about it that there's not opinions out there.
00:59:29.840 --> 00:59:35.519
So I'm like, if European is you don't like Caitlin and Tyler, there's gonna be a content creator out there for that.
00:59:35.679 --> 00:59:39.920
If you're a pen is you like Kale, there's gonna be a content creator out there for that.
00:59:40.079 --> 00:59:52.239
So all the people that enjoy you know reality TV content, they can find their creator that they follow and that um they enjoy their opinions and their opinions align.
00:59:52.400 --> 01:00:00.960
But then when you start attacking a creator because their opinion just didn't wasn't your opinion, you don't have the same opinion.
01:00:01.199 --> 01:00:03.920
I don't know, to me, that's just like why can't I have my opinion?
01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:06.719
I'm not attacking you for yours, just go.
01:00:06.880 --> 01:00:11.440
I'm not I'm a nobody, I'm not a reality TV star, I'm not an influencer.
01:00:11.679 --> 01:00:13.760
Like so that's annoying.
01:00:13.920 --> 01:00:16.719
Um that's annoying for sure.
01:00:18.239 --> 01:00:20.639
Yeah, I can't really hard to make money on it too.
01:00:20.719 --> 01:00:43.119
Like you can put a lot of time into it, and it sometimes you have those months where you just don't make what you put in, you know, what you just don't know and I'll and I'll say you know, like there were times where uh okay, for those that don't know Elle, like Elle is it she likes things pristine, okay?
01:00:43.280 --> 01:00:48.480
Like she wants to make sure it's it's good, it's golden before she puts it out.
01:00:48.639 --> 01:00:50.400
Granted, she's getting better.
01:00:51.679 --> 01:01:03.679
She's getting better, but like I mean, but I'm all I am also envious of that because I wish that I could really take my time and like focus, you know.
01:01:03.840 --> 01:01:11.199
I I wish that I had that where I could, but my my ADHD is so bad that I'm just like, get it out, get it out.
01:01:11.360 --> 01:01:17.039
Like this last video I made, like you said, uh last video I made, um I took my time with it.
01:01:17.199 --> 01:01:23.440
It probably took me like 20 minutes to do 20, 30 minutes, and the views weren't even that good.
01:01:23.599 --> 01:01:26.719
So that's where I was like Ray.
01:01:26.880 --> 01:01:30.960
When you say I took my time with it and it took me 20 or 30 minutes, that's me.
01:01:32.400 --> 01:01:33.199
You know me.
01:01:33.280 --> 01:01:37.360
Like for me to record a TikTok, I will spend three, four hours editing that mug.
01:01:37.519 --> 01:01:40.559
A four-minute TikTok I spend three hours on.
01:01:40.639 --> 01:01:41.760
It is insane.
01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:51.119
I just recorded I recorded a video of Janelle Evans um on Friday the fourth, I think it was.
01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:59.599
And I did not get it posted until yesterday.
01:01:59.760 --> 01:02:02.320
I think I got it posted yesterday, finally.
01:02:02.639 --> 01:02:05.360
So four days, it was a 17-minute video.
01:02:05.679 --> 01:02:08.000
Four days me trying to edit.
01:02:08.159 --> 01:02:12.880
Mind you, this was also me, like it was a weekend, so I was like also spending time with the kids.
01:02:12.960 --> 01:02:15.280
I was in the house, so I was trying to edit when I had time.
01:02:15.519 --> 01:02:20.079
And then um Monday was Labor Day.
01:02:20.159 --> 01:02:22.320
I did try to work, but I had a lot of stuff happening.
01:02:22.639 --> 01:02:35.199
Um so it was literally I finally got the majority of it done at my daughter's dance practice because um she started dance and she's really shy, so they're letting me sit in the room with her right now.
01:02:35.360 --> 01:02:45.440
So I'm sitting in the room, and so I was like airpods in trying to like finish it, and that's where I finally got it complete, and I finally posted it.
01:02:45.519 --> 01:02:48.960
But this was like a 17-minute video that literally took me like four days.
01:02:49.920 --> 01:02:50.559
That's crazy.
01:02:50.800 --> 01:02:52.559
I can't no, I can't do it.
01:02:53.360 --> 01:02:53.920
It could be.
01:03:05.920 --> 01:03:09.440
So I always end up saying, I got it, don't worry about it.
01:03:09.679 --> 01:03:17.760
Um but I wish I really could find somebody that looked at my content and said, Okay, this is what I'm gonna do.
01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:24.960
Because the two people that I have found, great people, but they just didn't like I told both of them, go view my content.
01:03:25.280 --> 01:03:26.719
That is how I want it.
01:03:26.880 --> 01:03:35.199
Um, and they just couldn't, you know, um I would even find the pictures to say, here's the pictures that I want behind me.
01:03:35.360 --> 01:03:40.159
And it just it never really worked out, so I always would be like, It's fine, I got it.
01:03:40.400 --> 01:03:45.679
But I really wish I could find because I spend way too much time editing, and I hate editing.
01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:46.960
You do a lot, yeah.
01:03:47.039 --> 01:03:47.840
You take forever.
01:03:47.920 --> 01:03:54.719
I like I I for me, 30 minutes is a long time.
01:03:54.880 --> 01:04:09.360
There was a time where we did um where I took my time with something, and I remember it getting critiqued, and I was like, dude, I literally took my time.
01:04:09.440 --> 01:04:19.920
It took me hours, hours to do, and for the views to be low, for the critique to be bad, and I thought, I'm not doing that again.
01:04:20.239 --> 01:04:27.199
I'm not doing that again, like putting all that time just to give my little two cents, like no.
01:04:27.519 --> 01:04:28.639
And it's it's stressful.
01:04:28.800 --> 01:04:34.960
A lot of people don't understand the time that it takes because yes, I'm saying it takes me 30 minutes.
01:04:35.119 --> 01:04:39.760
Sometimes, listen, if I'm in a rush and I gotta do something, I just want to give you guys a tea real quick.
01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:42.719
It'll take me no longer than five minutes.
01:04:43.519 --> 01:04:44.400
That's insane.
01:04:44.559 --> 01:04:44.960
How?
01:04:45.119 --> 01:04:46.400
I don't even know how that's possible.
01:04:46.480 --> 01:04:47.679
Like, like, what are you doing?
01:04:47.760 --> 01:04:55.760
Like, I'm like, what first off, and I've told you this, what I love is that you will have on looking however.
01:04:55.920 --> 01:05:06.880
I'm like, I wish I had the confidence to be like, like, I saw one of your videos the other day, and the first comment was like, L, I can't, um, Ray, I can't focus on the video because I'm focusing on your hair.
01:05:07.039 --> 01:05:08.239
I was like, oh my god.
01:05:08.400 --> 01:05:11.119
But I also love that you're like, I don't care.
01:05:11.280 --> 01:05:15.360
Like, I will if I gotta get the tea out there, I got other stuff I gotta do today.
01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:18.800
So you ain't even grabbing the brush at the time.
01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:19.519
I don't care.
01:05:19.920 --> 01:05:21.519
Look like a whole cockatoo.
01:05:21.599 --> 01:05:25.360
I I saw your post on Instagram.
01:05:25.519 --> 01:05:26.480
I know which one you're talking about.
01:05:26.639 --> 01:05:28.880
I saw your post on Instagram, I was in bed, I was like this.
01:05:28.960 --> 01:05:30.320
I was like, oh shoot.
01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:33.039
And I like, oh the cover is over.
01:05:33.199 --> 01:05:36.480
Went and I said, let me make this video real quick.
01:05:36.639 --> 01:05:39.840
I I didn't even focus on my hair, on my makeup, nothing.
01:05:39.920 --> 01:05:41.039
I was still in my pajamas.
01:05:41.440 --> 01:05:52.320
I don't, I I just listen, I somebody when somebody and it's so funny, like the gifts that people put of like a dog with like the matted hair all over the place and stuff.
01:05:52.400 --> 01:05:58.079
And I I said, listen, I said, your tea comes before my looks.
01:05:58.320 --> 01:06:05.119
Okay, like I To try to get it out if I can get it out there as soon as possible, I I want to get it out there as soon as possible, right?
01:06:05.199 --> 01:06:09.599
Like we'll we'll worry about how I look later, but um I'm I'm gonna get it out.
01:06:09.840 --> 01:06:24.320
So I did say to myself that with this podcast, I I will clean it up for my podcast, but listen, if y'all don't care that I'm looking a hot mess.
01:06:25.840 --> 01:06:27.199
I love that though.
01:06:28.800 --> 01:06:31.360
And there's times though, there's times where I'm like, look at Elle.
01:06:31.519 --> 01:06:32.960
Elle's like, listen, today's not the day.
01:06:33.039 --> 01:06:34.400
Y'all get in my tea and that's it.
01:06:34.480 --> 01:06:36.000
And I'm like, good for you.
01:06:36.239 --> 01:06:36.800
Good for you.
01:06:37.039 --> 01:06:38.079
How does that feel though?
01:06:38.880 --> 01:06:42.960
There has been a couple of times, but it's really come from like seeing you just like whatever.
01:06:43.039 --> 01:06:43.679
I'm like, you know what?
01:06:43.840 --> 01:06:44.239
Who cares?
01:06:44.400 --> 01:06:49.199
Like, I don't if something happens, I don't have to like hurry up and go fix my hair and put my makeup on.
01:06:49.360 --> 01:06:52.559
So there's been times I've recorded no makeup.
01:06:52.719 --> 01:06:54.800
Um, I do still brush my hair.
01:06:55.519 --> 01:06:57.199
I do, I will still brush my hair.
01:06:57.440 --> 01:07:05.119
Um, but I have recorded, I've thrown my hair up in a ponytail before, and I have um, I mean, I recorded sick the other day.
01:07:05.280 --> 01:07:10.159
I didn't have makeup on, I was sick, um, and it was what it was, but I've I really got that.
01:07:10.320 --> 01:07:13.360
I was like, I need not to be so worried about it.
01:07:13.519 --> 01:07:16.719
If I'm not feeling well or if I don't have makeup on, I don't need to wait.
01:07:16.880 --> 01:07:21.199
I don't need to take the time to go do my makeup, and I've really got that from just kind of watching you.
01:07:21.280 --> 01:07:24.000
And I've told you before, I'm like, I'm envious that you'll do that.
01:07:24.159 --> 01:07:28.719
Like, I because I've always felt like I needed to, but you know what, you know what though?
01:07:29.199 --> 01:07:42.880
What's so funny is the times that I've done that, I have later like gone to Google to look for a picture about like David Eason or something and come across my TikToks of me looking crazy with no makeup.
01:07:42.960 --> 01:07:44.480
I'm like, oh, there she is.
01:07:44.719 --> 01:07:51.440
If somebody googles David Easton, if somebody googles David Easton, they're gonna see my TikTok video and see me looking a hot mess down there.
01:07:51.760 --> 01:07:52.639
Listen, I went.
01:07:52.960 --> 01:07:57.760
I I looked at uh I looked at the one with my hair looking like a cockatoo.
01:07:57.840 --> 01:08:02.239
My my wife looked at it and she was like, didn't even brush your hair.
01:08:02.400 --> 01:08:18.800
I said, I she said But then there's like these, and it's always the viral videos where I look like crap, like those are the ones where I look like crap, those are the ones that go, I do, I get my hair or like do my hair and my makeup and and get dressed.
01:08:18.960 --> 01:08:21.279
I'll I'll get some compliments, you know what I mean?
01:08:21.439 --> 01:08:24.000
But majority of the time, people don't care.
01:08:24.239 --> 01:08:24.960
They don't care.
01:08:25.439 --> 01:08:35.119
Like they just want the tea, and and and it uh to me, I I'm starting to call them like my FaceTime calls, you know, like I'm just yeah, I'm just FaceTime my friends.
01:08:35.760 --> 01:08:38.239
I'm just yep, girl, did you hear this?
01:08:38.479 --> 01:08:40.319
And that's it.
01:08:40.640 --> 01:08:50.479
You know, I used to think like, oh, like even though this is like just TikTok or just it's not like I'm a journalist, it's not like I'm um putting out a news article.
01:08:50.560 --> 01:08:52.880
I used to think it needs to be really professional, though.
01:08:52.960 --> 01:08:55.600
It needs to be really professional and pristine and everything.
01:08:55.920 --> 01:09:17.359
But what what I it really doesn't have to be, like during this Lancy Clancy trial, one thing that I've noticed, like a lot of the creators covering her that got a lot of views and a lot of followers, they are not, they are sitting in their living room, hair in a sideways ponytail, you know, looking whatever.
01:09:17.680 --> 01:09:31.520
And people don't care, like they really and maybe it makes them um feel even more like oh you know, they're not on there having to look there, which obviously you want to look your best at times, you know.
01:09:31.840 --> 01:09:40.159
But I'm really trying to bring myself out of that that if something pops off and I don't have makeup on, whatever, jump don't do the video.
01:09:40.319 --> 01:09:41.520
Like you don't have to.
01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:43.920
I really think people can appreciate that too.
01:09:44.159 --> 01:09:48.960
Yeah, I feel like that day your hair that day had me in a chokehold.
01:09:49.199 --> 01:09:50.000
I was like, look.
01:09:52.159 --> 01:09:52.960
It was so bad.
01:09:53.199 --> 01:09:58.239
But I uh you know, I for me, I feel like it humanizes us, you know.
01:09:58.319 --> 01:10:08.960
We're not we're not these reality TV stars, we're not news anchors, like we're just your average Joe hanging out.
01:10:09.680 --> 01:10:19.439
We're just we're saying the things that you feel uncomfortable to say or you don't want to say, or maybe you're afraid to say because you're gonna get the backlash, right?
01:10:19.600 --> 01:10:27.199
Because there's times where I'll make a video and majority of my following and everything, they're like, girl, I'm sorry, but this one was not it.
01:10:27.279 --> 01:10:29.039
And I'm like, hey, it's out.
01:10:29.199 --> 01:10:32.239
Like this was my thought, and I just had to lay it out.
01:10:32.479 --> 01:10:35.760
You don't have to agree with it, but it is what it is, right?
01:10:35.840 --> 01:10:39.840
Like, I'm glad we had the conversation, and and that's that's it.
01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:54.720
Now, granted, uh, if anyone ever uses my videos uh and I'm ending up on like national television and you've got my hair with like looking like a cockatoo, I mean, hey, it is what it is.
01:10:54.880 --> 01:11:00.640
Like, but it is um, but if people remember me, it would and it would encourage people like who is this girl?
01:11:00.720 --> 01:11:01.760
I'm gonna go find her.
01:11:07.439 --> 01:11:15.520
I would like if I saw somebody's like if I didn't know you, if I would have known you and that video just would have pop, I would have like, okay, I gotta go follow this girl.
01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:16.159
You know what I'm saying?
01:11:16.319 --> 01:11:16.720
Who is that?
01:11:17.039 --> 01:11:18.479
She just don't even care.
01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:23.520
That's that would not be a follower right off the bat for me.
01:11:25.680 --> 01:11:26.479
Such a mess.
01:11:28.079 --> 01:11:29.600
Um, listen, it is what it is.
01:11:29.680 --> 01:11:37.439
And and I and sometimes I'll tell my wife, like, God, like, it's always the one video where I look like crap that that does well.
01:11:37.760 --> 01:11:49.119
Like, I could be in my pajamas looking a hot mess, and that's the one that goes viral, and that's the one that when you Google so and so, you see me looking crazy.
01:11:49.439 --> 01:11:51.600
But that's what I've seen lately too.
01:11:51.760 --> 01:11:54.960
I'm like, oh, that's when I look at me.
01:11:56.000 --> 01:12:06.079
But like if I if I'm going on a live or if I'm doing this podcast, or if I'm gonna go on someone else's podcast, I'm gonna make sure I look presentable, you know?
01:12:06.319 --> 01:12:08.640
Like that's that's my rule.
01:12:08.720 --> 01:12:16.079
But listen, my my short clips, my short reels, my whatever is what y'all getting what you're getting.
01:12:16.239 --> 01:12:16.720
Yep.
01:12:19.119 --> 01:12:20.079
Real time.
01:12:21.119 --> 01:12:23.520
I want I I'm trying to be more like that.
01:12:23.680 --> 01:12:32.560
Like if it's the weekend and I'm in the house with the kids and something pops off, I'm not even going to my office, I'm running in the bathroom, shut the door, and I'm gonna record the video.
01:12:32.960 --> 01:12:38.000
Yeah, yeah, and then I'm gonna spend the next two hours editing to get it out.
01:12:38.159 --> 01:12:41.359
But four days, cheeses, that's it.
01:12:41.520 --> 01:12:42.319
I know, right?
01:12:42.800 --> 01:12:43.439
Exactly.
01:12:43.680 --> 01:12:47.199
But I'm not gonna spend like 30, 40 minutes doing my makeup.
01:12:47.279 --> 01:12:53.920
So I'm just gonna I'll go on looking crazy, but I'm gonna I'm gonna spend four days editing the video to get it out.
01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:58.560
But man, I wish I could find an editor so bad, but it is what it is.
01:12:59.039 --> 01:13:02.159
I hate editing, I'm too meticulous with it.
01:13:02.640 --> 01:13:14.079
And then but when I'm editing, like when I was editing the video about Janelle, as I'm saying things, all these thoughts are popping into my head about like, oh, there's a picture of her in a wheelchair, there's a picture of her putting pain all over her body.
01:13:14.159 --> 01:13:16.720
Like, let me get that because that'd be good to put here, put here.
01:13:16.880 --> 01:13:31.439
So I'm constantly when I watch a lot of people that don't do all that, they just get on there, they talk, they might show a picture or two, but like my video of Janelle, I think I went and grabbed 20 pictures to put in it.
01:13:31.600 --> 01:13:35.600
Uh uh a recording of Barbara calling Janelle hypochondriac, you know.
01:13:35.840 --> 01:13:44.399
I added so much to it, and it is for the viewers because I feel like that will keep them keep their attention more if I have those little things in there.
01:13:44.560 --> 01:13:50.159
But I can say with me, I fought I watch people that don't do that, and I like it.
01:13:50.319 --> 01:13:51.760
So I don't know if it's too much.
01:13:52.000 --> 01:13:52.720
I don't know.
01:13:53.199 --> 01:13:58.640
I think you just you just do what fits you, you know, because that's why people follow you.
01:13:58.960 --> 01:14:13.199
And and so that's what I've also learned is that I mean people uh if if you're doing the editing thing, people people will love it, but they'll love it because they love you and they love watching you and and listening to you.
01:14:13.520 --> 01:14:15.199
And that's what matters, right?
01:14:15.279 --> 01:14:22.399
Like, I mean, I'll give you a hard time all day about your editing, but at the end of the day, you're following, right?
01:14:22.560 --> 01:14:33.279
They they love you and they love what you do and what you put out, and that you put in the effort and the time to make sure that it's a video that they enjoy, and that's what matters.
01:14:33.600 --> 01:14:35.920
Yeah, you know, true.
01:14:36.399 --> 01:14:44.800
Yeah, that's not how you change things up, I guess, because I mean I gotta follow in the way that I do what I do anyway, so I probably don't need to change anything up.
01:14:45.520 --> 01:14:51.039
Yeah, I mean, I I this last video I did, it took a minute, but I was like, you know what, whatever.
01:14:51.119 --> 01:14:54.000
Like, I'm just I'm not going that deep like I did before.
01:14:54.239 --> 01:15:01.840
I st I want to go back to like where I insert like a funny, like a like a funny little like clip, but nothing crazy.
01:15:02.079 --> 01:15:06.159
Um and just just have fun with it and just move on.
01:15:06.239 --> 01:15:08.239
Like it doesn't have to be a big deal.
01:15:08.479 --> 01:15:16.560
Um the effects and stuff can be appeasing to the eye sometimes, but for me, it just it just doesn't work for me.
01:15:16.720 --> 01:15:20.159
So I have to find, you know, or I I know what works for me.
01:15:20.239 --> 01:15:21.439
I just have to stick to that.
01:15:21.600 --> 01:15:29.439
And and like I just told you, my my following, uh, especially people that have been around for these last two years, they're like, look, girl, we don't care, just put it out.
01:15:29.760 --> 01:15:31.039
Just put it out, right?
01:15:31.199 --> 01:15:33.359
Yeah, crazy or not.
01:15:33.520 --> 01:15:36.399
Actually, we prefer the crazy hair, so you know.
01:15:36.800 --> 01:15:37.119
Really?
01:15:37.279 --> 01:15:41.279
Listen, I'll I'll look a whole mess and I still get support, so I'm I'm with it.
01:15:42.399 --> 01:15:43.359
Exactly.
01:15:43.680 --> 01:15:44.399
Exactly.
01:15:44.720 --> 01:15:51.760
Uh well, is I is there anything that I maybe missed or or anything that maybe you want to talk about?
01:15:52.720 --> 01:15:53.439
I don't think so.
01:15:53.520 --> 01:15:55.520
I mean, the thing with Ryan and Amanda is a big thing.
01:15:55.600 --> 01:15:58.239
I know a lot of people's questioning if something else happened.
01:15:58.479 --> 01:16:06.319
Um, a lot of people, it's like something must have happened because why did she wait four months after Amanda was arrested?
01:16:06.560 --> 01:16:16.399
Um and I don't know for sure, but I do think from my understanding, there was a discussion that Amanda would go to like treatment.
01:16:17.199 --> 01:16:21.039
That she would go to treatment and that didn't happen.
01:16:21.279 --> 01:16:28.000
If I I'm thinking from McKenzie's standpoint alone, I've seen some people say McKenzie's only doing this to be bitter.
01:16:28.399 --> 01:16:30.319
If she was gonna be bitter, she would have done it right after Amanda.
01:16:30.720 --> 01:16:35.359
First off, she she had every right to do this right after Amanda was arrested.
01:16:35.520 --> 01:16:36.000
I would have.
01:16:36.079 --> 01:16:36.159
Yeah.
01:16:36.720 --> 01:16:38.880
As a parent thinking about my kids and putting them first.
01:16:39.039 --> 01:16:47.039
If you just lost if you just lost custody of your child because you put them in danger, you're definitely not about to be real my kids.
01:16:47.760 --> 01:16:48.720
Right, absolutely.
01:16:49.600 --> 01:16:49.840
I agree.
01:16:50.880 --> 01:17:01.600
Yeah, there was people saying she did this to be bitter, but I'm like, you know, if she was trying to be bitter, um, which while she had every right to do it as soon as it happened, she might want to done it right when it happened.
01:17:01.920 --> 01:17:13.359
But I think she was trying to see what was gonna happen, if if Ryan and Amanda were gonna split, if she was gonna go to rehab, if she was really gonna be serious about getting sober.
01:17:13.600 --> 01:17:16.159
Um, I think something could have happened.
01:17:16.239 --> 01:17:16.960
I don't know.
01:17:17.199 --> 01:17:34.720
But if I'm McKenzie and I'm just trying to see how things are gonna go, the videos that Amanda has posted on the internet, she doesn't seem to me personally, she still doesn't seem to be the Amanda that we uh came to know when she was sober after her and Ryan got out of the facility.
01:17:34.880 --> 01:17:38.079
She just no, no, she doesn't know.
01:17:38.399 --> 01:17:44.000
Like she seems to be posting like erratic videos again that are just I don't know.
01:17:44.159 --> 01:17:48.960
Um so if I were McKinsey, I would have definitely done this.
01:17:49.279 --> 01:17:54.880
And listen, like if she's testing that she's like negative.
01:17:54.960 --> 01:17:57.760
Now, granted, she's not being tested for certain stuff, right?
01:17:58.000 --> 01:18:04.960
But my thought, my immediate thought is just check yourself into rehab and get better.
01:18:05.199 --> 01:18:21.039
Take a break from the social media crap, take a break from all of this stuff and just focus on getting better because all she's done since she admitted that she relapsed was go on TikTok and sell things on TikTok shop.
01:18:21.199 --> 01:18:26.479
She's literally going back to what she was doing prior to admitting that she relapsed.
01:18:26.720 --> 01:18:30.800
So on occasions, she'll say something, but she's not really.
01:18:31.600 --> 01:18:50.079
She said that when she was going to continue her journey on TikTok, that she was going to share her journey of recovery, that we were going to see the real, the raw, authentic part of what it is like to be in recovery and going through those motions.
01:18:50.399 --> 01:18:52.000
We have not seen that.
01:18:52.319 --> 01:18:56.800
I thought when she posted this, I thought, and everybody told me, like, no, she needs to go to rehab.
01:18:56.960 --> 01:19:06.640
And I thought, well, I thought, well, yeah, but if she's doing this, right, even though I I didn't agree with her, even though all the things I thought, but if she does this, maybe this can help somebody, right?
01:19:06.720 --> 01:19:14.560
Like maybe this can help somebody in the future, or or maybe this can help somebody in the now to show them, hey, I'm going through this too.
01:19:14.800 --> 01:19:16.399
We're gonna get through this together.
01:19:16.640 --> 01:19:21.279
That was my mentality, but we haven't seen that at all.
01:19:21.520 --> 01:19:22.960
We haven't seen anything at all.
01:19:23.119 --> 01:19:24.720
We haven't seen a speck of it.
01:19:24.880 --> 01:19:42.960
All we have seen is TikTok shop, and that makes me believe that she doesn't want to hold herself accountable, she doesn't feel bad for her actions, she doesn't care because she's always going to have somebody there to hold her up and say, poor little Amanda, it's okay because you're an addict and addiction is a disease.
01:19:43.119 --> 01:19:47.600
But at the end of the day, it is up to her to get better and be better.
01:19:47.920 --> 01:19:55.600
So we can no longer, especially myself, be an enabler to addiction.
01:19:56.000 --> 01:19:57.439
You can praise all you want.
01:19:57.520 --> 01:19:58.319
You can like Amanda.
01:19:58.560 --> 01:20:00.319
Hell, Amanda has me blocked.
01:20:00.479 --> 01:20:03.520
I still like Amanda for who she really is.
01:20:04.079 --> 01:20:04.560
I do.
01:20:04.640 --> 01:20:06.560
I I like who she really is.
01:20:06.640 --> 01:20:11.520
When you get to really know her personality, she's fun, she's funny, she's lighthearted.
01:20:12.079 --> 01:20:14.239
We're not seeing that, right?
01:20:15.359 --> 01:20:27.600
And and and that for me is is frustrating because you know, I just want I I want to be able to see that, but I'm also expecting too much from a recovering addict, and that's not my place.
01:20:27.760 --> 01:20:31.119
My place is not to expect anything from anyone.
01:20:32.640 --> 01:20:34.239
Yeah, but uh you're right.
01:20:34.319 --> 01:20:41.840
It's hard to expect anything from somebody that's a recovering addict because it's so but she did tell us, she said, you know, I'm gonna show you guys what it's like.
01:20:42.000 --> 01:20:44.960
So you holding her to that, like that's what you told us.
01:20:45.039 --> 01:20:48.640
I think you're you're right to do that, to say this is not what we're seeing.
01:20:48.800 --> 01:20:52.560
You told us that, and I think that could have been, you know, I said the same thing.
01:20:52.640 --> 01:20:54.479
I was like, well, I said something different than you.
01:20:54.560 --> 01:20:57.840
I said she needs to go to rehab, and you were like, Oh, let's see.
01:20:57.920 --> 01:21:04.159
Like, maybe she don't have to go to rehab, but she can go through this journey, talk about it publicly, share with people, and it could help her, other people.
01:21:04.399 --> 01:21:06.479
I was like, why don't you go to rehab?
01:21:06.560 --> 01:21:11.439
She's gonna, and a lot of people was like, rehab is not for everyone, you know.
01:21:11.680 --> 01:21:19.920
A lot of recovery mads said I was on DRUGS, do DRUGS for this long, and I got sober by myself.
01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:25.760
I did not go to recovery, so not everybody, not recovery, rehab, not everybody needs rehab.
01:21:25.840 --> 01:21:32.239
So then I thought, okay, maybe I am being a little too expect that that's what she has to do to get sober.
01:21:32.479 --> 01:21:39.199
But being honest with you, thinking about things in reality for what their life is right now, so she gets these charges.
01:21:39.279 --> 01:21:48.159
She she's relapsed before this, obviously, and it listen, I think she started slow, um, especially based off what her sister said.
01:21:48.319 --> 01:21:53.920
If she had relapsed like a year earlier, I think it did start slow, but it got bad.
01:21:54.159 --> 01:21:59.039
It I mean, the cemetery video, the video of her dancing in front of Ryan.
01:21:59.279 --> 01:22:01.039
I mean, she was not well.
01:22:01.600 --> 01:22:05.520
Um so we see all that.
01:22:05.680 --> 01:22:06.640
She gets arrested.
01:22:06.720 --> 01:22:20.079
And one of the 911 calls, um, the officer, or maybe it was a dispatch that says they it was a dispatch that said they received a call from um someone on the roads reporting Amanda, saying that she was like all over the roads or something like that.
01:22:20.399 --> 01:22:27.600
Um they detailed her car, like B of I's, you know, she's we have someone reporting that she's all over the roads.
01:22:27.760 --> 01:22:32.159
So she has her child in the car, she's all over the roads, she gets arrested, it goes public.
01:22:32.479 --> 01:22:34.880
Um, the abuse, it goes public.
01:22:35.039 --> 01:22:38.399
The 911 call from her outside the house, it goes public.
01:22:38.560 --> 01:22:41.520
All of these things, she loses custody of Presley.
01:22:41.680 --> 01:22:43.760
Uh, Brandon has to go back and live with his dad.
01:22:43.920 --> 01:22:46.720
All these things happen so publicly.
01:22:47.039 --> 01:23:02.479
And then rather than really focusing on herself and just taking the time to uh deal with what she's going through, she jumps into a job, jumps into another job, jumps back in, uh, posts on social media all these affiliate links.
01:23:02.560 --> 01:23:18.479
And I think she maybe she should have some time where maybe she didn't work for a while and put in the time to go to the meetings that she because she did a video um a while back saying a little update, you know, um, and I think this was like the only update into where she's at concerning her sobriety.
01:23:18.800 --> 01:23:23.760
She at first she said, you know, I try to go to two meetings a week, but if if not two, definitely one.
01:23:24.079 --> 01:23:26.319
Definitely one meeting, you know, at the least.
01:23:26.560 --> 01:23:32.079
So but she's working two jobs, and now she can see Presley.
01:23:32.319 --> 01:23:39.039
Last I heard it was under the supervision of Ryan that if she has Presley, Ryan has to be somewhere around.
01:23:39.840 --> 01:23:44.239
So now she can see Presley, but she still doesn't have custody of her.
01:23:44.720 --> 01:23:48.399
Um Brandon is the same thing.
01:23:48.479 --> 01:23:49.920
I think it has to be supervised.
01:23:50.079 --> 01:23:57.279
I just think, wouldn't this make things harder for her as someone that's in recovery to jump into two jobs?
01:23:57.520 --> 01:24:05.359
Um you know, obviously she's so worried about finances that she's posting all these affiliate links and the whole game, like, oh, make money on the game or whatever.
01:24:05.520 --> 01:24:05.920
I don't know.
01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:12.720
I just felt like maybe it would have been better if she would have taken some time to go to meetings, maybe sit down and record.
01:24:12.880 --> 01:24:21.039
It would have been very therapeutic if she would have recorded videos of today is day one of sobriety, this is what I'm dealing with, this is what I'm going to upload that to her TikTok.
01:24:21.199 --> 01:24:37.680
I think she could have gotten so much respect and a lot of followers if she would have put a video up every day, this is what I'm going through, this is what I'm dealing with, I am having cravings, you know, and being just really true to what her her journey was and what she was going through each day.
01:24:37.840 --> 01:24:41.520
But I I feel like, and I follow her everywhere.
01:24:42.159 --> 01:24:52.079
And at times I will go and look at her comments and look at her views to see kind of I mean her back in the day, anything that she posted, a ton of support, hundreds of comments.
01:24:52.399 --> 01:24:56.479
Now, like she might get 30 comments, you know, right?
01:24:56.720 --> 01:25:00.960
So I know she ain't making the money on YouTube, I mean, on social media like she did before.
01:25:01.039 --> 01:25:11.039
I don't know how much money she made before, but I'm sure she made some, and now I bet it's probably next to nothing because she's not even getting the views or the comments like she used to.
01:25:11.520 --> 01:25:27.279
And I think it's because people they see her content not being anything about her sobriety, and it's just her back to living life, moonwalking at work, you know, uh affiliate links, and they I've seen people even comment saying, All I've seen now is affiliate links on your page.
01:25:27.359 --> 01:25:28.960
Like it's an ad after ad.
01:25:29.039 --> 01:25:29.680
I don't like it.
01:25:30.399 --> 01:25:39.279
And I think she's just I don't know, it could have been it could she could have done something different, and it really could have helped her, maybe, and helped other people.
01:25:39.600 --> 01:25:51.760
But I worry that jumping into having to go and listen, I know you got bills, so you gotta work, but two jobs on somebody that is just trying to recover, uh it's a lot, it's stressful.
01:25:51.920 --> 01:25:58.319
It's a lot on top of when when Ryan is home and and you're most like you're the one taking care of that kid.
01:25:58.640 --> 01:25:59.279
Yeah.
01:25:59.760 --> 01:26:06.880
You know, you're the one taking care of the kid, you're the one cooking, you're the one cleaning, you're the one doing all the things, right?
01:26:07.600 --> 01:26:11.920
So um you don't have any time to recover.
01:26:12.399 --> 01:26:26.079
You don't really have time because once that stops, once all of all of the busyness stops and you're really sitting there, can you sit there and not go into the thoughts of of relapse, right?
01:26:26.239 --> 01:26:26.479
Right.
01:26:26.560 --> 01:26:31.279
And and like deal with the stress of what your life is, right?
01:26:31.600 --> 01:26:33.600
Because you do have all this on top of it now.
01:26:34.479 --> 01:26:37.680
What would you because like I said, I I agree.
01:26:37.840 --> 01:26:42.720
I think if she started vlogging like like they did back in the day, right?
01:26:42.880 --> 01:26:46.399
Vlogging her life, vlogging every day, what it's like.
01:26:46.479 --> 01:27:00.960
Uh all people would be watching, people would be tuning in, people that are in recovery would probably wouldn't respect it, people that um are are currently active in their addiction would probably be like, oh my god, she's going through it.
01:27:01.199 --> 01:27:02.560
Maybe I can go through too, right?
01:27:02.640 --> 01:27:18.800
So there was so much room there for her to be able to show, like, yes, I messed up, yes, you know, uh making mistakes and having slips, they they do happen, big or small, they they do happen, right?
01:27:18.960 --> 01:27:26.800
No matter who you are, it it it it doesn't have a favorite, but we can get through it, right?
01:27:26.960 --> 01:27:30.319
And and we're gonna get through it, we're gonna do it together, and and whatever.
01:27:31.359 --> 01:27:37.760
I always tell people, like, man, especially if you've been on TV, you're I hate when people waste their time.
01:27:38.000 --> 01:27:40.800
Like, why not just be a speaker?
01:27:41.119 --> 01:27:55.439
Have have a speak have have speaking engagements with people, encourage people, teach people about your life and your journey, and and how to how they can maybe overcome those situations that that you've gone through that was hard for you to get by, right?
01:27:55.520 --> 01:28:00.800
Like, there's so many people out there, kids still that are watching their show, even though it's It's not playing anymore.
01:28:00.880 --> 01:28:02.079
It's probably canceled by now.
01:28:02.239 --> 01:28:16.960
But like new generation of kids that are watching this and watching somebody go through something like this and think, oh my God, you know, my parents are dealing with this now, or or I'm dealing with this now.
01:28:17.119 --> 01:28:21.359
Why not why not have speaking engagements and speak with people and encourage people?
01:28:21.600 --> 01:28:24.319
Um that's just my thought though.
01:28:24.399 --> 01:28:26.800
I just think it's a waste, but that's just my thought.
01:28:27.039 --> 01:28:40.000
But uh last question for you is what advice would you give someone that wants to do uh content creation like like yourself?
01:28:40.239 --> 01:28:43.039
Like what if they're like I would do what Elle does?
01:28:43.439 --> 01:28:48.960
Okay, and maybe this might not be what you're talking about, but I have to say this because people do come to me and say they want to start doing this.
01:28:49.199 --> 01:28:51.760
Right off rip, do not use your real name.
01:28:51.920 --> 01:28:56.640
And it's not because you might have anything to hide, but they're gonna dig into your family.
01:28:56.720 --> 01:29:02.399
And listen, my sins, my brother's sins ain't my sins, okay?
01:29:02.720 --> 01:29:07.359
My uncle's sins ain't my sins, but you know what I'm saying?
01:29:07.680 --> 01:29:12.079
So and and a lot of people's like, oh, you changed your name because you got something to hide.
01:29:12.319 --> 01:29:34.319
No, I changed my name because I started YouTube, and then there was this beef with another creator who went dug into my background, who found out financial information on me, who, you know, and then I'm like arrested, and like there's questions on how that even happened, and people with my address and people that knows my aunt's name, and it was so much so.
01:29:34.720 --> 01:29:37.199
I don't really have skeletons in my closet, okay?
01:29:37.279 --> 01:29:45.680
I've like I live a pretty whatever life, but your family deserves their privacy.
01:29:45.840 --> 01:29:52.159
So even if you want to start doing content, don't ever use your real name, use a different name.
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Um, if you have a family that you do want to talk about from time to time, use nicknames because there's been people that went and followed my my my daughter's social media account because I've mentioned her name and I used to talk, you know, I used to talk about my kids way more.
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But they searched for your kids, yeah, yeah, like to follow my kids on social media.
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So weird.
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Um, there was this one girl that really hated me, and she went and found my Facebook page, and she commented under a picture of my daughter, like talking shit about me under the page of my daughter.
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My daughter was like 12 at the time.
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Yes, she my daughter was like 12 at the time.
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She was doing a 4-H um, she was doing this thing for 4-H, and it was a contest, and my daughter won, and it was pictures that I posted, and this weird lady commented under the pictures of my daughter, talking about like how trap how much of trash your mother is.
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Your mother is such trash, you're such a backstabber.
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And I'm like, I don't know.
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Oh my god.
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It was somebody from the internet, you know.
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Um, so protect yourself.
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Don't ever use a different name, give your kids and your husband a nickname.
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Um, and also do not take people's content and just throw it up on your page, try to credit people, um, be friendly with people.
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If another creator does upset you with something, reach out to that creator and be friendly and say, hey, this is the you know, blah blah blah blah.
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Because, you know, it does suck when you have issues with other people.
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It it sucks, you know.
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Um, and I wouldn't say uh make a lot of friends in the in the background because that can be difficult.
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Ray, you know this as well having friends that do this.
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Um so be friendly with people, but I wouldn't go around trying to be best friends with all the creators because it can be difficult when you got different opinions, that can cause for blow-ups.
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Me and Ray, we've had stuff like this happen where we've been friendly with other creators and then different opinions will cause things to blow up, and next thing you know, they're on their page talking crap about you.
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Be friendly, you don't have to try to make a bunch of friends.
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Um, yeah, I don't and just do whatever your interest is.
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You know, you don't have to be like another creator, get on and talk about, and I always encourage people to do it.
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When people come to me and say they're thinking about doing a YouTube channel, I'm like, do it, do it if you have the time and you got the energy, do it.
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I can't promise you that it's gonna take off the second that you do it, or it might take I know this one creator that she was on YouTube for five years, and she was stuck at like 5,000 followers, and her content might get like a thousand views, and uh something happened, and there was this topic that happened, and she started covering it, and she blew a bar.
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And now she's got like 600,000 followers.
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Oh my gosh, yeah, she was on for five years, and she just stayed really stagnant.
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But there was that makes me feel good because my following is like stagnant at 2500, and I'm like, I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but I'm just like, look, I'm just gonna keep posting and keep doing my thing, and and it it's whatever happens, happens, you know.
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And and I need to I keep that mindset because that's what happened with TikTok.
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I wasn't expecting stuff to blow up.
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I just thought, well, I'm just gonna probably reach a couple people, and it is what it is.
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So I agree with that.
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Anything else?
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Yeah, yeah, that's probably it.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Well, thank you.
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Thank you so much for coming on, and where can people find you?
01:33:26.960 --> 01:33:28.960
Uh like you said earlier, I'm everywhere.
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I'm on X, I'm on Instagram, I'm on Facebook, I'm on YouTube, I'm on TikTok.
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I'm not on OnlyFans though, so you'll never find me there.
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You'll never find me there.
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Um maybe Feed Finder at some point if we you know ever get desperate, but you know, all the the the rated or what what rated not rated um X.
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On the other pages beneath that, you can find me.
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And I'm LB or LB official um everywhere else, yeah.
01:34:03.680 --> 01:34:09.760
All right, thank you for inviting me because this is early on in your journey, and I'm I'm excited that you invited me.
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I'm excited to see.
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I thank you.
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I'm I'm excited.
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I appreciate you taking the time to come on.
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I know that you're you're busy as well, and um hopefully I can I can have you on down the road again.
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But thank you so much for for taking that time.
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I appreciate it.
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And if you guys haven't already, make sure you guys go follow LB official all over social media, and we will uh talk to you guys soon.
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Thank you for joining Off the Record Podcast.
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Hey guys, welcome to Off the Record Podcast.
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I have, as you may know, LB.
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You guys might know her on uh TikTok, Instagram, mainly YouTube, um, Facebook.
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She's all over social media.
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X, if you have X, she's on there too.
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So all over social media.
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I'm sure you guys are used to seeing us uh fairly often together on like TikTok lives and stuff like that.
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So uh welcome in.
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Thank you for for joining me.
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Thank you for inviting me because this is one of your first.
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I mean, I'm not the first, but it's one of your first episodes for uh your your your your new your podcast, your new podcast.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I'm excited.
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I'm excited that you thought uh enough of me to send me an invite.
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Yes, I well, I mean, you know, it's it's you're one of my greatest friends that I've I've had on here.
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We've uh we've been friends for a very long time.
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Um and I'm sure that a lot of people wonder how they're they have very different personalities.
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And we have different opinions about some things too.
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So right, right.
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And so I'm sure that a lot of people are like, how has that how does that dynamic work?
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I I always believe opposites attract, like you know, I feel like if your personalities are are too close together, they're probably gonna clash.
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Um, and so I see nothing wrong with it.
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I I like our dynamic.
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I feel like we balance each other out too, and I feel like it stays respectful.
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So uh, like if we do have a disagreement on certain people that we cover, I feel like we are good enough with each other that like I'll tell you my opinion, you tell me your opinion, but it stays respectful.
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So there's never anything to get mad about because even though we have different opinions on people, we still respect, like, okay, that's their opinion, they're coming at me respectful, so it's fine.
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Um that's all that I because I'm like we the internet is just full of opinions.
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I love that.
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Like, I love to hear other people's opinions and I love to hear why they have that opinion, and sometimes it can sway my opinion if I hear information that I didn't know, you know.
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So I love hearing other people's opinions and I welcome that as long as it's respectful.
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You know, there's pages that if you do not have their opinion, you're gonna get, you know, they're gonna block you because they just want the people that agree with them, which whatever, that's fine.
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If they want their section of the internet where people agree with them, that's that's their prerogative.
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Um but I mean I I I always appreciate different opinions as long as it's respectful.
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And I feel like what's so crazy though is we kind of started out like because you you messaged me and was like, I don't remember exactly what happened, but I said something and you messaged me and was like, hey, if you got something to say, you can like you can message me about it.
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And I was like, Do you remember what it was about?
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And I was like, Oh, I'm sorry, like I wasn't trying to be rude about anything.
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Yeah, my apologies.
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It was a topic I think that we were both covering, and you had mentioned me in it, and um, and somebody had sent it to me.
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Like they sent me like the clip of it or whatever, so I went to go watch it and I was like, dang, you know, I like I was like, you know, and so um I knew you before that.
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Like I had watched some of your content before that.
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I didn't have an issue with you.
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I don't remember what it was something I disagreed with you on though.
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It was something, yeah, something happened, and I was like, hey, I just reached out to you and I was like, hey, if you if if you have an issue with me or something, like just come tell me, you know, like just message me and tell me, like, my DMs are open, you know.
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And you were like, no, I don't have an issue with you at all.
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Yeah, I was like, no, no, no, I don't have an issue with you.
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Like, I I was like, I'm sorry if you took it as like me having an issue with you, I just have a different opinion, but no issue with you, like we're good, you know.
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Thank you for reaching out to me.
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Because unfortunately, you know, the job that we have and what we do, a lot of times, which I'm guilty of doing this myself, if um we see somebody with with a different opinion, you know, we'll say something rather than going to them, you know what I'm saying?
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Like, yeah, so I appreciate it that rather than getting mad.
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So when I when I spoke about you and your opinion, it was like my opinion's different, rather than you turning around and then you going on your platform and then speaking on me and being mean about it or saying, Oh, I know Elle's over there talking crap, like I don't care.
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You came to me, you know, which maybe I could have gone to you.
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I could have went to you first and be like, hey, I'm doing this video, we have different opinions, and just letting you know I'm gonna bring your opinion up and I'm gonna give my opinion.
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It's gonna be different, but I'm not meeting any ill intent.
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It's just to talk about how we have different opinions about it.
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I definitely could have done that.
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Um, because I feel like it's so caddy in our little niche, you know.
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Um, I don't know if it's like that everywhere, but I feel like it's really caddy.
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Like people will get offended, and the next thing you know, is like creator against creator, and that sucks.
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Um, so I really appreciate it that you came to me and was like, hey, if you have a problem, you could come to me.
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And I was like, no, no problem.
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We just have different opinions, and that that's fine.
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And I'm sorry if you took it that way.
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So it really started from there.
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You're like, oh girl, okay, like good, you know, right.
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You were like, oh, okay, great, good.
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We're we're good then.
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I'm like, yeah, we're good.
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And it started from there.
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Yeah, yeah, because I like you know, when I started social media, I I honestly thought that it all worked the same.
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I thought everybody took from everybody's stuff.
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I thought, you know, everybody was friendly and everybody got along.
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I didn't know from Adam how how this worked, you know, at all.
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That's so fair because it was the same with me.
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When I started, um I just, you know, I started with makeup and then I went into Team Mom.
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And what I would do every morning if is I would just get up and like get on social media and and check articles to see what people were talking about with like Team Mom.
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And then I would jump on a a YouTube live and be like, oh, this is what's going on.
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And and initially didn't even, and I I know I gave credit, but it wasn't even intentional at first because I didn't even understand, like, okay, this person broke the story.
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You need to make sure you credit them.
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It was just like, oh, this is what's out there about Janelle today.
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So hey guys, this is what Janelle's doing today.
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This is what's out there about Janelle.
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Um, a lot of times though, I would when I got my setup, I would show like whatever I was going off of.
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Like if I was going off Us Weekly, I would show it so people knew where I was getting the information from.
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But I've had I've had people start channels, and this has happened twice to me.
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They take my whole videos and just put on, they're starting a channel where they're taking videos from me and a couple other creators, and I've had to reach out to them and be like, hey, like I understand you're probably trying to make you a page, and like I respect that, but you can't like take my whole lives and just put them on your channel.
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You if you want to use my lives for reference, you you have to pause it every few seconds and like say something, like you just can't like if I'm doing a video about Janelle, you can't take the whole thing and just put it on your page and then grow your page from there.
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Like you have to you know what I'm saying?
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But in the beginning, I really didn't know how it worked.
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Like, I didn't I didn't get it, and I know they don't either.
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So the couple of people that I've had to reach out to, like they it wasn't with ill intent.
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Um but what I will say is that a lot of people don't still don't is I get accused a lot of oh, they just take, you know, she steals from other people's content, and I'm like, it's not stealing as long as you're trying to make sure you give them credit, but that is how this works.
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Like TMZ breaks a story, and they're like, exclusive, TM, and then the before you know it, Us Weekly has written an article an hour later.
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The Daily Mail has written an article an hour later, Radar Online has written an article an hour later, and then before you know it, but what they're saying is TMZ broke the story.
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So a lot of people's like, all she does is take from this and that and this.
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Well, in the beginning, we didn't have sources.
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Right.
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And also people don't understand, like sometimes TMZ, Us Weekly people, they get information from us, and a lot of them don't credit us.
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I noticed that with uh a few articles like Yahoo, like a few articles out there um that made a post and instead of crediting me for it, they didn't.
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They just wrote about the story and they didn't give me any credit for it.
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So it's like, you know, it it goes hand in hand.
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I like you said, I do try my best to to tag people um and credit people where I can.
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If I forget, it's not intentional, and I would hope that they would reach out to me and be like, hey, like, you know, like can you please credit me or whatever?
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Yeah, you know, my bad.
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You know, or sometimes I'm like removing like a caption because I'm like, I don't like that.
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So I like remove it, or I've done it a couple times to the point where I completely forget about the tag because I'm so busy trying to get it all together.
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And we run multiple, like we post, we do TikTok, we do Facebook, we do Instagram.
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So when a story breaks, we're like, oh, let me really let me hardly quickly record that TikTok video.
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And then you're like, let me make the post over on Instagram.
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So it's just because you got when something breaks that you know your audience is gonna want to hear about and you wanna hurry up and get it out, you're just kind of in a scramble thinking about all the platforms you need to put it on, the video you need to record.
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So it's not intentional.
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But one thing that I'm like, these media outlets like TMZ, like Us Weekly, like they know how this works, they know that we get information from each other, but they also know it is important to try to credit and source the information.
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So if they get information from us, try to source, try to credit.
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It is what it is.
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Anytime somebody's gotten anything from me and they didn't credit me, I've either politely messaged them and be like, hey, could you please credit me?
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Or I've not said anything at all if I felt like it probably wasn't intentional.
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Like if I felt like this is somebody that uses my stuff a lot and they always credit me, they didn't this time, it surely wasn't up on purpose.
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I don't automatically go to like they're stealing my stuff.
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You know, like me and you use each other's stuff, and there's probably been a time that I forgot to credit you when using something you broke.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Right, you know, like I mean, you're really good about crediting though.
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I don't, you know, I feel like anytime you've ever used anything that I feel like you are always really good about crediting, but it happens, it does happen to where um, you know, sometimes you're just trying to get everything up and you just forget it is not intentional.
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Um, but it's how it works.
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So the the the people on the outside, you know, the people on Reddit that talk about us that they're like, all they do is take stories from this, and I'm like, where do you think they got it from?
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Like they they yeah, they they may have gotten the exclusive at that time, but the 10 stories before that or the 20 stories before that come from all these other outlets.
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They just they got it from them, wrote their story, and then they credited them.
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It's not like TNZ is breaking every single story that they put out there publicly.
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And also a lot of stories that we get or hear, there's times where we're told, don't don't talk about it.
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Like, please don't talk about it right now.
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I'm not ready for this to be out.
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And somehow it gets out, right?
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Somehow it gets out.
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And at that point, it's like, okay, well, can I it's already out there, can I talk about it now?
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You know, and it's like, yeah, go ahead.
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It's it's already out.
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Like I have no control.
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And so at that point, right, we try to respect if we can, if we're told this, but we're told not to talk about it, we try to respect that.
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If it's already out in the public, granted, it's it's kind of like a I don't want to say like a free-for-all, but it's like fair game, right?
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At that point.
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So exactly so at that point, we're just we're just doing our job.
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And so um I don't think that a lot of people realize that it's like, oh, you're copying um, or you you got the story from like I've I've heard that, oh, you got the story from so and so.
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No, I I've been sitting on this story.
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I just yeah, I just can't say anything.
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I knew it before they put it out.
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I knew it before they put it out.
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I just couldn't say anything.
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I was waiting I was not gonna say anything unless it came out, but now that it's out, I can talk about it.
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I knew this information before that that's happened to both of us, and we've talked about stuff like this behind the scenes.
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We've talked about like when the story comes out saying it, yeah, I know about that, but I reached out to you know, and asked, Hey, are you okay with me putting this out?
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Because we do try to be respectful of people, especially when it's like really sensitive stuff.
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Um we try to be respectful, you know, because we do know these this is people's real lives.
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Um, so it ain't about kissing anybody, anybody's butt or being on anybody's payroll, but it's like when we have a source come to us to say, this just happened, and then we contact our source to say, hey, we was told this happened.
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Can you confirm this?
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Yes, it happened.
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Can I, you know, I want to do a story on it.
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Can you please not do a story?
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Like, I really don't want this to get out.
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Okay, fine, not gonna do it.
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But then TMZ finds out somehow, they run with the story, and you're notified, hey TMZ, just put a story out.
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Then you go back and you go, Hey, TMZ put a story out.
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Can I cover this now?
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Well, I guess if it's out, go ahead, sure, whatever.
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Exactly.
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And then you put it out, and people's like, oh, she stole the toys from the story from TMZ.
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No, I did not.
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I did not steal the story from TMZ.
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I already knew about it and just couldn't say anything.
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Yeah.
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That's happened to both of us.
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I I'll say that there's times where even TMZ, right?
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Like uh you uh I've covered true crime like off and on, but you've been pretty uh pretty good with uh not just reality TV, but like true crime, right?
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Um uh what else do you cover?
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Reality TV, true crime.
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I mean, I do a little body language too that kind of mixes in with my reality TV and true crime.
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I mean, that's about it.
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Reality TV and true crime.
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So with that, like you know, you you've covered more than I have in regards to like gypsy rose, right?
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And there's a lot that's been uncovered, uh, and and is still still to this day, like right, more audio clips are coming out, and so as all of this is unfolding, this is a moment, this is the moment where TMZ could post something and be like, hey, all these things are coming out, right?
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But TMZ has been silent.
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Silent.
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I'm like, okay, Gypsy's not that much of like a she's she's not that much of a like a celebrity, right?
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That you have to cover for her, right?
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But she's no, but she's gonna end with TMZ.
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So I think this is my opinion.
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Before she got out of prison, I think Christy was given TMZ the the explosives.
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When she got out of prison, she and Christy were given TMZ the explosives.
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That's why they knew when she announced her divorce, when she left Ryan.
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They knew when she filed, they knew um what her complaints were with Ryan, that he was um a slob and he didn't clean out his kitchen uh or his refrigerator.
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Like they knew all these.
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And I was like, the only person that story can come from is her.
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Like the picture of like pictures of his refrigerator, like, where did that come from?
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Pictures of her at her local Dollar General.
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I promise you, no paparazzi is in cutoff Louisiana at the DG, hoping Gypsy Rose Blanche rolls up, okay?
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So I think Christy took the pictures of Gypsy and sent them to TMZ for a story.
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So I think because she feeds them a lot of information, she also visited the the um Henry TMZ not too long ago.
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So I think because she has given them a lot of stories, exclusives, I think they're just trying not to cover this uh until they absolutely have to.
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Now I have seen, I think like Us Weekly, I think, posted about it.
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Yeah.
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But it's it's not been, you know, I'm thinking this is.
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It's not like it's it's not like world, it's not like out there.
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Right.
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Right.
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I'm like Good Morning America.
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No one's touching it.
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Good morning America should be playing these audios of gypsy admitting that the reason they unalived her mom was so they could be together.
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It was that bottom line, this is why we did it so we could be together.
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The audios of Ryan admitting, you know, to what they did at the school.
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Like, this should be Good Morning America, in my opinion.
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Because it's not on the news, it's not on anything.
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I'm like, you would think that somebody would put it out there and and like share it and somebody please leak it, is all I'm saying.
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Like, this is this is crazy.
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At this point, all these content creators are putting in the work to uh going through these FOIA, listening to these calls, which by the way, a lot of people said, Well, she was at a prison, don't they monitor calls?
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Um, that's not how that works.
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So they they don't have time all day, they should be listening to every single call.
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But unfortunately, they're so low staffed that they don't have time to listen to every single prisoner's phone calls.
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But I guarantee you, had they listened to these phone calls, Ryan, Ryan would have been locked up.
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Ryan would have had the red dot.
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You know what I mean?
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I know, right?
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That's my mom worked as a CO, and I mean, I know, you know, my mom worked at a as a CO at a jail, and um, it was a very small jail, though.
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They had like 60 inmates, you know.
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I mean, in our little bitty town.
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So sometimes my mom would monitor the calls or she would go back and listen to them.
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But it was not, while it tells you these calls are being monitored, it is not consistent, especially in the big prisons where they have way more people, you know, where they have way more prisoners, there they might have somebody, you know, come in every so often, listen here and there, but it's not it's not constant.
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And I think if someone is up for parole, that should be a mandatory to listen to their calls.
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Obviously, you can't listen to all of them if they've been there eight years, but listen to, you know, just pick some randoms, you know, uh this many hours of their calls at random, just to kind of see where their headspace were was at, see what they were talking about.
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Yeah.
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Or even like it, even if they're understaffed, get a volunteer, have volunteers go.
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I like I understand they're understaffed.
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Get volunteers to volunteer.
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Okay, okay, get a volunteer to listen to these calls and p and pick up and say, you know, this is what we're looking for, if this is what you find, or if it sounds like it's any form of of suspicion in any sort of way, or that is breaking the law, etc.
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Let us know.
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You know how many people stay-at-home moms are like, hit me up, let me do something.
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I would love that.
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Especially if you're like, you're gonna listen to Gypsy Rose Blanchard's calls.
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I'm coming.
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Like, I'm good.
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I I'm coming.
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I'm gonna be right there.
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Right?
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I'm I'm honestly shocked.
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I think because the whole world when she got out, especially all these news stations, painted her as such a victim.
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I mean, even when she went on the view, Joy Behar, you know, basically told her what you did, what you had to do.
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And Gypsy's like, uh no, I shouldn't have done that.
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She was like, Well, yeah, she's like, I didn't I shouldn't have on a she's like, Oh, well, yeah, you shouldn't have done that.
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But everybody kind of believed like she was this victim, um, right who was abused.
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Like, everybody believed that.
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And she gets out of prison and she's gone on all these shows, the the these um news shows, you know, Good Morning America, The View, um, Entertainment Tonight, all that.
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So I think it's they really are gonna wait until the very last minute to put this out because it kind of goes against what they were pushing when she first got out of prison.
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So maybe that's one of the reasons they haven't done it yet.
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I mean, I guess.
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I just think like at some point, it it people call us bias, okay?
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People call us bias, but you're you're listening to uh the like the blogs of what page six.
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You're you're reading page six, you're reading people magazine, you're reading TMZ, you're reading all of these articles, but you don't aren't holding them, right?
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The audience isn't holding them accountable, but we as creators who are just out here just giving our little two cents on something, we are held to a higher standard than the magazines that are in the store, then in touch or or whatever.
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That it is it it's it's insane.
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And I honestly I think it's because we are a face, right?
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We are a face to our own brand, right?
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Versus people magazine or or uh in touch or us weekly, they don't have a face, they just have the name, so it's easier for people to point the finger at the face than to whatever the article is that they're reading, right?
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They could just be outraged about the article and then just move on.
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And too, think about this like we have our comment section that's open.
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TMZ, I know TMZ and a couple of outlets have like a little comment section, but how many times have you left a comment on TMZ?
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Like, I didn't even know that some of these had comment sections until I started covering, you know, covering reality.
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Yeah, I didn't I didn't know that.
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And a lot of people probably don't know that.
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A lot of people don't know, like, that TMZ, when you read an article, you can't scroll all the way to the bottom.
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I mean, you gotta get past all the junk, you know, because you have your story and then you have the ads and other stories, so you have to scroll way to the bottom, and then you can leave a comment.
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Um, but a lot of people probably don't know that.
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I never left a comment on a TMZ article before.
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Even if I were read it, I'd be like, oh, this is such BS.
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Like I would have thoughts about it, which is why I would end up going to YouTube and doing a video because I would read an you know article and I would have thoughts about it.
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I never knew that you could leave a comment, but for us, we're putting our videos out there and then real big is like comment section.
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So everybody's leaving their comments, you're biased, you're this, you're that.
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And at this point, I've just kind of learned to accept it, you know.
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Yeah, I I've uh I've only been doing this for for two years, and I really have learned.
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I I was just telling someone else about this yesterday that I have really learned to not really address comments as much as before.
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Like, you know me, like I look at stuff and I'm like, ah, like you don't understand, you know, and I want, I'm like, no, I just want you to understand this, but then I also understand that you can't talk to a brick wall.
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Like you can't, you could try to converse with some people, and some people are willing to have a good conversation.
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Even people that don't like me, they'll be in my comment section and and they'll disagree on certain stuff or agree on certain things, but they're never nasty.
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Some some aren't ever nasty.
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They just they're willing to have the conversation without being nasty, and I'm willing to have those conversations, but the the the comments that are just super cruel and mean and like they just really want to bring you down.
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It's just like, yeah, I don't have the time for that.
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Like, I just I can't I can't that that's so bad for your mental health to just keep arguing with those, right?
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Sometimes I'm like, this seems way too personal.
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Like, I had a somebody leave a comment um under one of my gypsy roast banchers videos uh really going off on me.
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And I was like, Do you know her or something?
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Like, are you a family member?
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Because you seem way too upset about May's opinion, and like I get it, like you you can have your opinion, but the way that you're like attacked because they were like attacking me as a person, you know what I'm saying?
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Do you know her?
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I don't understand why you're so upset.
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Like, she's somebody, I don't know this woman.
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I'm basing my opinion off what I'm seeing and some background information that I have, and so I'm it's kind of I don't mind people having their opinion and you're saying I disagree, L, you're wrong in this.
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That's fine.
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Stay respectful, and you're I try my best not to delete comments.
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My moderators know that we try not to delete comments as long as they're giving our opinions in a respectful way.
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Um, we even kind of allow a little disrespect, just as long as it's not too bad.
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Um yeah, but some I mean, some people, and but you know this, like will be so offended and and be really nasty.
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And I'm like, are you personal, like, are you a family member?
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Like, why are you which I don't know if Gypsy has any family members that were really gonna bat for her at this point.
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Right.
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It is strange, like there's there are some people that are just hardcore, like defend, defend, and and uh, you know, uh I'll give an example, right?
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Like with this whole Amanda Ryan situation, you know, I was friends with Amanda, you know, we were cool, we talked all the time, we FaceTimed, like all the above, right?
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And you know, like there were times where I'm like, I don't agree with this, I don't like this, right?
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But and I would tell her, I like, you know, and but then there were also times where even though she and I were cool, and I'd make a video saying, like, like I didn't agree with this.
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All her people were coming in my comment section acting nuts, and I'm like, yo, like I don't have to agree with everything that she says, but y'all are acting like you live in that house.
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You guys act like you guys know.
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I I probably know more than I should at this point, you know.
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Like, I'm pretty sure it's it's it's okay.
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Now, granted, um I think a lot of people also misunderstood with Amanda, like they thought that Amanda, I knew right that I knew for a long time that what Ryan was doing to her, um, that she accused him of of a on a 911 call, um what the you know, her relapsing, all of that stuff.
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Like people were acting like as if I knew right then and there what was going on.
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Now, granted, you and I had conversations where you were like, I don't know, Ray, like this she hasn't been looking good for a while.
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And I'm just like, really?
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Like, you really think so?
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I like I don't know.
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I don't think I asked her, she's you know, I don't think she'd lie to me.
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Like the you and I had those conversations.
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And that's another thing is you did ask her when people's like, if you're concerned, why don't you go to her and talk to her?
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Or when Amanda has done videos since saying, if you want to know the truth, come to me and ask me.
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Girl, people did.
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Obviously, I'm not gonna go to Amanda and ask her because I know she doesn't like me, you know.
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But you were friends with her and you did go to her, and you did try to talk to her, and you did try to ask her, and she told you she was good, everything was fine, she had not re like she hadn't relapsed, like she was good, so you took it for what it's worth.
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So now when she does a video and she says, if you want to know, come to the source, girl.
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We can't trust you.
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But then the people in the comment section saying if you really were concerned, you could go to Amanda for what?
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Yeah.
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I'm a horrible person, I'm a horrible friend because I was calling her out.
00:27:55.920 --> 00:27:58.480
Um, you know, I I'm like, well, wait a minute.
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Okay, and this is where there's a gray area because I could be friendly with a lot of people on TV, but the people that I'm friendly with also have to understand that this is my job.
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Now, granted, are there times where people are like, Ray, why'd you post that?
00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:16.880
Yeah, and I I have to tell them the same thing.
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I have to do my job.
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You might like what you have to remember that when we got in this this this little contract of of friendliness.
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It was because you saw me talking about you.
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I was doing this, so you can't pay me not to just because we're cool all of a sudden.
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Right.
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Now, granted, it you know, like I'm not gonna go out and air all all your you know stuff and what I'm not gonna do all that.
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What happened when I made a video about Ryan was because Ryan came for me personally.
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When Ryan called me a POS, it triggered me because I thought, I'm the me?
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I'm the POS?
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Like what Appid had your dirty secrets, like what a wife beating addict, and I'm the POS?
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Right, right?
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And not just Amanda, like not just what Amanda had claimed, but also what uh what McKenzie went through.
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So like I'm the POK.
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Okay, cool.
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Like, hey, you know what?
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Then I'm the POS.
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I I will take it.
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I will take it on the chin, but at the end of the day, at least people know that no matter what, I'm gonna be I'm gonna stay true to to myself, right?
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Like, you know that no matter what, I'm always gonna give the benefit of the doubt.
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You know that, L.
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Like, I try my best to give people the benefit of the doubt.
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Maybe I'm too nice sometimes, uh, you know, like I've I've heard so many people tell me like when she when I because I have a lot of addiction in my family, which you do too, but you were really trying to give her the benefit of the doubt.
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And I was like, oh, right, I don't like I'm hearing this, I'm hearing that.
00:29:58.400 --> 00:30:05.359
This is suspicious to me, that is, and you were really trying to hold off that maybe it wasn't that, that it was something else.
00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:08.720
You went to her, you talked to her, you asked her, she told you no.
00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:12.000
So you really tried until until you really couldn't, you know.
00:30:12.079 --> 00:30:23.039
And so I mean it that at the point that you finally was like, okay, um, other creators too, like were coming, like other creators kind of joined in, and we all kind of collectively were like, okay, this is enough.
00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:28.559
Like, we have to stop, we have to say something that's suspicious here and something that's off.
00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:31.519
And um, yeah, because at that point I'm an enabler.
00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:41.680
And it's hard because you've established like a a friendship with her, and she confided in you with things, and it's because of her, because of my mom.
00:30:41.839 --> 00:31:04.640
Like, my mom was an addict, my mom died an addict, and I thought, you know, one thing I wish people did was give my mom more of a chance, or I wish that back then it was okay to say, I'm going through stuff, let me see a therapist, or I I need to be able to work through this, let me see a therapist, or let me talk through my feelings.
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:09.599
I wish that those were things that she had that she didn't have.
00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:14.400
And so I when I was talking to Amanda, those were things that I saw.
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:18.960
And I had you and other people that told me, like, that's but that's not your mom.
00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:21.359
Like it's just not the same, right?
00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:30.400
And it it took me until until there was no looking back, like you couldn't see it was a train wreck that I was like, I I can't defend this anymore.
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:31.519
Like I I can't do that.
00:31:31.680 --> 00:31:40.000
I'm I'm causing more harm by pretending like it doesn't exist, and that's the hard thing.
00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:47.759
Like, um, when you say, you know, I I I was like becoming an enabler, I think about Jenna Larry too.
00:31:47.920 --> 00:32:06.400
Um, when you have a loved one or a friend that is in addiction in recovery, and it's so hard because you know, you have these group of people that are um in in sobriety, they're they've struggled with addiction, and you have them all on the internet saying, This is what we don't need.
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:09.759
We need the support, we don't need to be accused of be of relapsing.
00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:14.319
But then you also are like, okay, but if I'm seeing something, can I not say anything?
00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:16.240
Because I don't need to accuse them of relapsing.
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:21.119
That was one thing that I dealt with when I started speaking out, saying, No, like it doesn't look good.
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:24.799
People's like, you should not question somebody's sobriety.
00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:27.920
And I'm like, oh, but doesn't that make me an enabler?
00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:35.759
Like, if I never say anything and I just continue to see things and see things, and I'm like, Because I'm like, addiction thrives in secrecy.
00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:37.519
Like, that's what they need.
00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:40.160
They need for everybody to turn a blind eye.
00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:47.599
And I do think sometimes they use the whole don't question us because it could we're we're sober.
00:32:47.839 --> 00:33:00.960
And if you question us, it could make us relapse when they've already relapsed, but they're using that to make you feel guilty, so where you don't question them when in reality that and like Amanda's sister said, she had been relapsed for a year.
00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:14.480
Amanda said, Amanda's sister said, and I mean, take it for what you want, because she's been telling the truth, because she had been exaggerating or whatever, but she said that Amanda had been relapsed for like a year, and that Ryan had relapsed as well.
00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:21.039
So I mean, and and people have been saying things for a few months.
00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:26.240
I've been saying stuff for maybe about two, three months, just kind of questioning things.
00:33:26.480 --> 00:33:37.599
Um, and it was like, you know, you have all the people on the internet, not all, but a large portion of them that are in addiction, uh, sobriety saying, Don't you how dare you?
00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:38.640
Do not do that.
00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:45.119
But then you do have a few other people saying, you know, I am in recovery and no, I'm seeing this too.
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:48.000
And if we don't say anything, it's just gonna enable us.
00:33:48.079 --> 00:33:50.880
So it is this very and we're content creators, okay?
00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:55.279
We're not their parents, but for you, you did have a friendship with Amanda.
00:33:55.359 --> 00:33:58.640
So, but we it is this like it's hard to balance.
00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:00.960
Like, okay, I'm seeing something, I'm seeing something.
00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:08.000
I I can't say nothing because she's in recovery, and if I say anything, that could push her over the edge, and I don't want to be the reason she's pushed over the edge, you know.
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:09.519
So it's really hard to tow that line.
00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:12.480
And then you have all the people in the internet like calling you out.
00:34:12.639 --> 00:34:21.599
If you and Amanda had her fans, she had a lot of fans that would ride or die for her, which I don't think she does anymore, right?
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:26.639
I've like I think that it's like it's it has dwindled a lot.
00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:27.920
Yes, it's dwindled.
00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:36.719
And especially with all the other news, I especially, I mean, when uh she was driving, she got the DUI and having Presley in the car.
00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:38.800
Like, how can you how can you defend that?
00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:47.679
You know, a a mother putting their their own child, let alone anyone, anyone on the road, anyone just trying to safely get home uh to their families, a a child.
00:34:47.760 --> 00:35:00.400
I mean, I read on on the news uh quickly off topic, but around the news that uh there was someone that was drinking and driving and a soldier coming home to surprise his family, and he he dies.
00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:01.519
No.
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:08.719
Yeah, I mean, she dies also in the collision, but I think it was a content creator, but she she dies, but he dies also.
00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:16.000
He was he was driving home, he was he was driving late because he had just gotten home, he wanted to surprise his family and he couldn't come home.
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:21.920
Those are the kind of things, right, that people aren't thinking about is innocent lives are being put at risk.
00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:31.760
Amanda is lucky, she's lucky that she made it, her daughter made it, and that everyone on the road made it.
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:33.519
Like she's she's lucky, right?
00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:38.320
Because I don't think that I just don't think she's taking it seriously.
00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:39.599
Right.
00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:47.840
I really don't think because okay, when I started on the internet, I know um I've always wore my seatbelt, I've always made my kids wear their seatbelt.
00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:54.079
But when I first started, I actually went live a couple of times, like on Instagram or something, and I would just drive and talk.
00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:57.920
I wouldn't like look, but very quickly, people was like, L, do not do that.
00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:03.920
Um and I'm like, oh, it's kind of I'm not really I'm not reading the comments, I'm just talking, you know, and they're like, no, like you don't need distraction.
00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:04.880
And I'm like, okay, you're right.
00:36:05.039 --> 00:36:06.079
So I quit doing it.
00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:07.920
I quit going live.
00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:09.440
And that was me.
00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:13.679
I I I probably did it twice, maybe twice.
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:19.920
And people was like, No, um, don't, you know, you don't, and I'm like, you're right, I don't need the distractions.
00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:23.039
And this was this is like 2019, 2020.
00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:33.119
Amanda, when she she would literally like film and uh be like hit changing background, hands not on.
00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:39.679
I mean, so much of that there were people in the comment section saying she must have a self-driving car because she ain't put her hands on the wheel in five minutes, you know?
00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:47.119
And I'm like, even after her arrest, she filmed a couple of videos like driving.
00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:49.760
She used to not wear her seatbelt very often.
00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:51.599
She was sometimes, but not all the time.
00:36:51.760 --> 00:37:05.599
Um, and I know there's this one video where she said something like, Oh, I'm not on a main road, and you could see like main road, she was on a main road, and I'm like, we don't see this, like, is she not like what?
00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:08.639
Like we can see it.
00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:11.280
And I don't have an excuse for that.
00:37:11.360 --> 00:37:20.079
Like, I like I I before I was like, Oh, you know, it's it's it I'm so so dumb, so blind.
00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:43.360
I I and I this is also why I have learned like I love the people I talk to, but at the same time, I have to I have to separate right, I have to separate that because there were so many lines that she'd crossed and I wasn't really seeing it until I finally saw it.
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:49.119
And so um no, lots of lots of lives at risk, her own.
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:50.079
Her own.
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:57.760
It's just it's but you're right, like like like you said earlier, her fan base has has definitely gone down.
00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:04.960
Um, especially like I said, the DUI thing, this thing with Ryan um losing uh custody.
00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:09.599
Uh McKinsey now has uh emergency custody of the kids.
00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:13.119
Um Ryan has to take fingernail testing.
00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:18.159
Um for I don't know if I can say, like, can I say rugs?
00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:19.440
Like, or can I say I don't know.
00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:20.719
I don't know how how YouTube works.
00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:25.519
I don't want to get in trouble, but um but yeah, he he can I think you can say it.
00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:27.119
Oh, well, just in case.
00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:29.440
Rugs, okay, trying to get in trouble.
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:35.440
By the way, a lot of people get upset because they're like, you could say A-B-U-S-I-V-E, which I'm not gonna say.
00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:38.639
You could say D-R-U-G, you can say these words.
00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:40.079
You don't have to baby these words.
00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:43.679
I want people to understand content creators get in trouble.
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:45.039
They we get dinged.
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:50.559
Our view count doesn't go up, or they take our video down for violating community guidelines.
00:38:50.800 --> 00:39:00.559
We cannot say certain words because they are trigger words, and those trigger words can cause us to lose the video or lose our page.
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:02.480
So I'm not gonna lose my page.
00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:05.920
Uh I I will I will happily spell it out, okay?
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:07.519
I've had people say the same thing.
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:09.199
Like, why are we babying these words?
00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:11.360
Oh my god, we're saying pew- pew now.
00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:12.719
Like, how ridiculous.
00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:15.440
I'm like, listen, saying pew pew is ridiculous.
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:20.400
That's the word that that's the word TikTok decided to use, so everybody would know what what we're talking about.
00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:43.039
And yes, I have to unfortunately, because like you said, when you're in the creator rewards program, um or even if you're not, probably even if you're not, and you say these words, it can affect your views, you can still get in trouble for community guidelines, but especially if you're in the creator rewards program where you do get paid for your stuff, you really don't lose your page, you know?
00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:47.360
Um, so and they have an AI system that can pick up this stuff.
00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:49.519
So uh you have to be very careful.
00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:56.880
We're not listening do you think we want to stop and spell it out and then be like, Wait, am I spelling it right?
00:39:56.960 --> 00:40:08.239
You know, like A B U Do you think we want to be like I'm like, well, wait, wait, yes, I'm like I'm like, A, B, U, S, I, B, E, D.
00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:08.960
Okay.
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:10.480
Um, you know what I'm saying?
00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:12.079
Like, we don't want to do that.
00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:18.239
We would much rather just say being accused of A, you know, what he did.
00:40:18.400 --> 00:40:21.679
Um, our people would have that we would much rather do that.
00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:27.760
But we have to take care of like our business, protect our our page, and we have to follow the guidelines.
00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:28.800
And that's just what it says.
00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:34.559
I just wanted to bring that up because I feel like I feel like a lot of people don't understand why we do that.
00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:38.559
And so I was like, you know what, now that I'm saying this, let me let me explain why.
00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:46.719
Because a lot of people get annoyed with that, and it's not intentional, it's or well, it is intentional, but it's intentional so that we aren't getting in trouble.
00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:49.440
So take it as it is.
00:40:49.679 --> 00:41:01.199
But yeah, so Ryan has to do these fingernail um clippings, and so um it so the fingernail clippings go back three to six months, right?
00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:12.000
And he's being tested for uh for kratom or 7-0 or something like that, and and whatever combinations are in that have to do with opioids, right?
00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:22.559
And so because they have to do with opioids, um it's that's why they're they're testing for it, but also why it's no longer uh legal in Tennessee.
00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:26.079
Yeah, they outlawed it like July 1st, I think.
00:41:26.159 --> 00:41:28.239
I think is when they passed the law.
00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:29.280
Yeah.
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:34.960
But there was there's been rumors that Ryan and Amanda were doing that for a few months.
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:40.480
Yeah, I I know that uh that that was like for like months.
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:41.039
Yeah.
00:41:41.280 --> 00:41:47.599
Months, almost uh, almost like at the early stages or early beginning of the year, right?
00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:54.559
I mean, because maybe further back than that, because do you remember when we heard that Ryan lost his job?
00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:55.440
Yeah.
00:41:56.400 --> 00:42:01.920
And it was the job that he had had since he got out of rehab and kind of gotten himself together.
00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:03.199
He had had this job.
00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:08.320
Um, I'm not gonna say where it is, but he had been there for like two years or so.
00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:18.880
And uh we heard that he lost his job because he was doing Kratom and he had given it to um a few people at work and it made them sick.
00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:20.800
Uh, so he lost his job.
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:26.000
And um then I think Amanda came out to say, Oh, that's not why he lost his job.
00:42:26.159 --> 00:42:36.079
He lost it because um corporate came in and realized that he didn't have the proper license to do what he needed to do, whatever.
00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:46.079
Um, and so I reached out to my sources and I was like, Amanda is saying that corporate came in, and that's why, and they're like, There is no corporate, it's uh it's privately owned.
00:42:46.239 --> 00:42:47.599
Like I know the guy that owns it.
00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:55.440
Like it's probably so then I looked up the business license, and it's not a corporation, it's just um You are such a sleuth.
00:42:56.079 --> 00:42:57.360
You're such a detective.
00:42:57.519 --> 00:42:58.000
I love it.
00:42:58.159 --> 00:42:59.679
You're such a detective.
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:03.280
I know, and people hate me on the internet for it, not everybody.
00:43:03.440 --> 00:43:06.880
Some people's like, Can you believe she checked the weather?
00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:13.599
I'm sorry, but yeah, uh that's why I called boyfriends cheating on me back in the day because I broke into their voicemails, okay?
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:16.800
And people say that how can they trust us or whatever?
00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:18.639
You have to do the work.
00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:25.679
Yeah, like don't you want me to try to figure things out and dig and and sorry?
00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:46.800
I mean, but Amanda saying that he was fired, like first off, her story didn't make sense anyways, because he had been there for like two and a half years, and corporate comes in after that long and fires him and didn't know about his license situation, and and and to the fact that she said they let like four or five other people go when I was told that he had given like four other guys and they all got sick.
00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:55.039
So it also made sense that like that's why maybe they were all let go, because they were all on that, you know, and and unwell at work.
00:43:55.280 --> 00:44:05.039
Um but yeah, people get mad and act like we're being But at the same time, I'm like, well, a lot of people appreciate us for doing that.
00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:07.599
That if we hear something, we're gonna try to check into it.
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:09.440
We're gonna try to verify it.
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:12.480
There might be some people that don't like that and think we're doing too much.
00:44:12.639 --> 00:44:13.440
Okay, fine.
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:14.880
Okay, don't follow me.
00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:20.000
Go to somebody that won't take to do the extra work and go the extra mile and just take their word for it.
00:44:20.159 --> 00:44:20.639
I don't care.
00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:23.039
If I can kind of prove that I want to.
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:26.639
Somebody called me gross uh yesterday.
00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:40.239
Uh somebody called me gross yesterday on a comment on Instagram because I spoke about um like Ryan no longer having like custody or whatever, and then like that the kids have to stay away from Manda and stuff.
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:42.800
And she was like, like, this is gross.
00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:44.559
Like, don't you think this is wrong, blah blah.
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:47.119
And so I look, because I look at her their page, right?
00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:49.039
When they say something like that, I'm gonna go to your page.
00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:49.760
Me too.
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:52.880
If you follow me, you follow me, I'm gonna screenshot it.
00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:56.480
Because if they say I never followed you, well, I now I got the screenshot.
00:44:56.719 --> 00:45:01.280
So then I go to the comment section, I go, then why do you follow me?
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:03.039
And then instant unfollow.
00:45:03.119 --> 00:45:16.159
It's like what if you don't like what I'm posting, but you're following every single person I talk about, you're following all the other T pages that talk about it, but yet I'm gross for talking about it.
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:19.840
Is it is it that I'm gross or you just don't like me personally?
00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:23.360
And if you don't like me personally, why are you taking it all personal anyway?
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:26.480
What I think the problem is, is they obviously like the tea.
00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:37.039
They obviously like being in people's business because they're following all your pages, all the other tea pages, all the people that we cover, they're so they obviously don't think it's gross to be all involved in other people's business.
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:44.079
What it is, is probably they were a supporter of Amanda and didn't like your opinion or don't like that this is happening.
00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:55.679
So rather than saying, you know, uh I support Amanda, I hate this is happening, I wish Mac wouldn't have done that, blah, blah, blah, blah, they're gonna say you're gross when literally that they like the tea because they're following all the tea pages.
00:45:55.920 --> 00:45:57.599
But I think the same thing happened.
00:45:57.679 --> 00:46:01.679
Somebody commented on my page um not too long ago, and my kids thought this was hilarious.
00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:06.480
They said uh it wasn't even on my page, it was on somebody else's page that I came across it.
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:10.480
And um they said, Oh my god, that LB girl is so annoying.
00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:13.599
And so I clicked on her page, and of course it said follow back.
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:17.679
And but before I clicked on her page, I commented and I was like, Oh my god, I know, right?
00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:18.480
She is so annoying.
00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:23.119
I can't believe she has like over 400,000 followers collectively, you know, like so annoying.
00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:23.440
How?
00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:24.800
Like, who would follow this girl?
00:46:24.960 --> 00:46:27.280
So then I click on her page and it says follow back.
00:46:27.360 --> 00:46:32.400
And I'm like, You're one of the followers, and I'm so annoying.
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:37.039
So I screenshot it and I posted and I said, wait a minute, this you?
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:39.039
And my kids thought that was hilarious.
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:46.480
That um, like I I screenshotted the fact that they follow me, and I was like, wait a minute, this you um I didn't go back to see if they unfollowed me.
00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:53.280
I just thought that why are you following me to then go to another creator's page to say that I'm annoying?
00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:59.039
Then don't or like as if we're not gonna see it, or like we don't have other followers that are gonna see it and send it to us.
00:46:59.519 --> 00:47:01.039
We uh we get that a lot.
00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:04.960
I think a lot of people think I'm going, I'm gonna go on somebody's page.
00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:07.440
No, first of all, I'm not going to that page.
00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:08.480
You're sending me.
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:11.920
If you're sending me this stuff, okay, I see it, whatever.
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:17.679
I have learned, especially throughout this this year.
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I have learned that if people want to talk about me or that they don't like me or whatever, God bless.
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If they want to keep talking about me all day long, many blessings to you.
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You know what I mean?
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I want to talk about people on TV.
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I don't want to talk about creators, unless it's like a creator like Michaela uh Nogiera.
00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:43.679
I fine.
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I'll like I'll talk about her all day.
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People that are purposely becoming influencers, people that are purposely putting their private lives out there for entertainment.
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Like if you're just we're on the same page with this.
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If you are just a creator that's covering other people, you're not putting your life and your personal business out there for us to judge.
00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:11.679
We're not trying to judge you, we're not trying to cover you, we're only trying to cover the people that are putting their life out there for for us to critique, for for our entertainment.
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We're giving opins on them.
00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:21.519
We've both talked about how we're not trying to like go after creators that they're just doing the same thing as us, they're not putting their private lives out there, right?
00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:23.280
Um, yeah, so yeah.
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Sorry, I cut you off, but no, no, no, that's fine.
00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:27.760
I'm I feel like I've been doing that too.
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Sorry.
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Like it, I I just if like you said, we're not putting our private lives out there, we're just here to get there's room for everyone, and I think that that is the the biggest problem is that one of the things that creators do, and not intentionally, but they allow for their following to kind of encourage, you know, or they try to nitpick certain things and then they go to encourage that the animosity when we when it's not needed.
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And I think that if we're so busy looking at if I see somebody tags another creator on my thing now, I'm okay, cool, you tag them, whatever, you know.
00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:13.920
Um, if if you send it to them, great, you send it to them, whatever.
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I don't I don't care.
00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:17.519
I'm talking about a topic, right?
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And I've had uh so many I've had a lot of of followers that have said, I love when I love that even though I follow creators that don't agree with each other, they're able to all get along.
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Like because they they don't have they can't pick like a favorite because they like everybody.
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:38.559
And and that's fair.
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And I don't think it's it's fair to put that on on viewers that are watching us and and but I don't I don't need all of that.
00:49:49.360 --> 00:50:01.840
Because if they're if if they're watching this creator and she's trash talking the other creator, but you like that creator, then you I've had several people come to me and say, I used to watch this person, but they talk so much crap about you, and I liked you.
00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:08.159
I like them too, outside of them talking about you, but I had to unfollow them because they just trash talked you so much.
00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:15.360
I've had people tell me that, and I'm like, listen, you don't have to unfollow if you like their content, you just don't like the fact that they talk about me.
00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:17.840
You don't have to follow them for the content you like.
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When you hear them turn on a video and they're talking about me, you know, don't watch that one, but you don't have to unfollow them on account of me.
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There were creators that I didn't even like really get along with that I encouraged do get social media, get other social medias, like expand your horizons, you know, gain other followers and get other perspectives and and all like I said, the floor I believe is is open, it's open for everyone.
00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:55.599
Um there's room for everyone to grow, and everyone uh is gonna have their own people that love them, and and that's okay, and then they'll have people that don't like them, right?
00:50:55.760 --> 00:50:56.320
We know that.
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So um and and that's okay too.
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It is what it is, and life goes on.
00:51:00.719 --> 00:51:16.960
And I I just wish that um I just wish that our viewers or followers wouldn't encourage animosity between you know me or you or me and you uh against other people.
00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:27.599
Um I wish that people wouldn't do that because you and I are on the same page of we can all do the same thing and and coexist, you know?
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Right.
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Yeah, you know what um really uh bothered me is I've caught this a couple of times.
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Like I have went live on TikTok and have people in my chat just being so nice, talking to me, and then later um I'll be scrolling TikTok, I'll come across a page and see those same people in that commenting about me.
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And I'm like, you were just in my live last night.
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You were literally just in my live last night, chatting it up, acting like you don't have an issue with me, and now you're over here talking about me and twisting what I said, like I think a lot of it has to do with like acceptance.
00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:20.320
I think a lot of people need to feel important and need to feel accepted in all aspects, or like need to feel liked, you know.
00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:25.679
Social media has kind of taken over that, right?
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Where it's like you have to be liked or you need to feel important by your comment being liked.
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Yeah, yeah, because if they go to a creator's page that everybody knows don't like me, and the video is talking about me within they comment, like, oh yeah, I was watching LB last night and she said blah blah blah blah blah.
00:52:42.079 --> 00:52:52.400
Well, the majority of the people watching probably isn't gonna like me, so they're gonna get a lot of likes or a lot of comments back, and yeah, so they get their the attention that they need, you know.
00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:53.519
Right, right.
00:52:53.599 --> 00:52:55.599
And it's it's sad, it's sad, really.
00:52:55.679 --> 00:53:05.599
Like, you know, I there's a lot of people that I know that they are friends with ever they're well like with everyone, right?
00:53:05.679 --> 00:53:19.920
They're friends with everyone, they don't have like a uh there's not like a disdain with anyone, they keep it very chill and they'll engage with everyone's stuff, but as soon as you talk negative about another person, like another creator, they just leave it alone.
00:53:20.159 --> 00:53:22.079
And I can resp I can respect that.
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I can respect that if you're like, hey, like I'm engaging in all the positivity and I want to see you grow and I want to see you accomplish and be big, like do big things and all like whatever it is that your endeavors are, like I want to help encourage that.
00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:45.440
But when it comes to you know bringing like another creator down because you dislike them or whatever or or disagree, that's where I'm just not going to engage.
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And and I I respect that.
00:53:47.679 --> 00:53:48.639
I can respect that.
00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:50.719
Same, me too.
00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:53.760
I think that's probably the best way, probably to be.
00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:58.960
Um, I mean, when I like you said when we first started, when you came into this, you thought everybody got along.
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Like me too.
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:12.000
Like, I I thought all creators were cool with each other, and but what I found, especially uh seven years into this, is there is a lot of jealousy, you know.
00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:27.039
Um, even not even amongst creators, but among creators with people over on Twitter that release information that have their sources, or even media outlets that were used to having all the exclusives.
00:54:27.280 --> 00:54:31.119
Then you have these content creators that come up and now they're getting exclusives here and there.
00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:40.000
Well, it's got that, you know, one person over on X that is used to having the exclusives or knowing all the behind the scenes upset and not liking this content creator.
00:54:40.159 --> 00:54:54.719
Um, because now they're getting and the only thing I can imagine that the problem is, is because there's never been any like issues between the people is like, oh, well, they're upset that they're not one of the only ones breaking stories and having behind the scene scenes information.
00:54:54.960 --> 00:54:58.239
Now these content creators have it and they don't like them all of a sudden.
00:54:58.639 --> 00:55:00.719
So is that the is that the problem?
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You're upset because for a long time people knew, like, oh, go on X and this person has the tea for this person.
00:55:09.840 --> 00:55:14.320
They have, you know, they got somebody behind the scenes because they're always spilling the tea and it's stuff that nobody knows.
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Then you all of a sudden have a content creator that comes up on TikTok that has behind the scenes information, and now this person over on X don't like them and is trying to discredit them and is crap talking them.
00:55:26.559 --> 00:55:29.599
Um, I'm just like there's enough for everybody, like you said.
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There's enough the floor is big enough for everybody.
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There, there's plenty of room for all of us out here to um to talk about the people that we watch and the reality TV shows that we enjoy.
00:55:41.920 --> 00:55:48.079
It's it's wild to me that people always feel the need to have issues, but that's what happened.
00:55:48.320 --> 00:55:58.320
What do you what do you think is like the the hardest part uh for you when it comes to uh content creating?
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I would probably say in the beginning, um, was people attacking me for my opinion?
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That was definitely the beginning.
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People, um, I would put my content out there and then the comment section would, you know, you're a hater, uh, let her live her life.
00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:22.960
Um, people attacking me just for having an opinion.
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And it would be personal attacks, though.
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I mean, I can't tell you how many times people commented in the beginning that I was the R word.
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Or did you even graduate high school?
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You sound like a hick.
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Listen to you, little country bumpkin.
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I was comments.
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I got so many comments in the beginning about like the fact that I sounded like um I guess my accent, I didn't even know that my accent was that bad until I started YouTube, and I got so many comments from people asking if I even graduated.
00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:54.400
There was comments that did you marry your cousin?
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What?
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Yes, yes.
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People asking if I marry are you from Alabama?
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Like, why do you sound like that?
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And I'm like, is it that bad?
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Is my accent that listen?
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I I love an accent, okay?
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I love especially like a a southern accent.
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Oh, I love a southern accent.
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My my husband has a really strong southern accent, and I thought, um, but I didn't know that mine was bad at all until I got on the internet.
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And then there was people like, yeah, I mean you have an accent, but it's cute, I love it.
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But other people so in the beginning that was really hard because I come from a small town.
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Um, I have always been able to make friends really easily.
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I've never had I've never had issues with people really that was like long lasting.
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Um you know, little arguments here and there in school, you know, with your friend.
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But it was never anything long-lasting.
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So uh cut to come into the internet and then you have people like telling you to shut up and mind your own business.
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Um, oh, you're bored, why don't you get a real job?
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Things like that.
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Um, but now I've kind of learned to just be like it, whatever, it is what it is.
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Honestly, I would say some of the hardest parts about content creating now is the other creators that rather than focusing on the people that are selling their lives for our entertainment, rather than focusing on them, is then focusing on me.
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Or you know, you know what I'm talking about too, because uh when a creator spends a week just making content about me.
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And I'm like, I don't understand why.
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I don't like I'm not worried about you.
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I'm doing my thing, you do your thing, you're attacking me because you don't agree with my opinion.
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I don't agree with your opinion either, but I'm not attacking you because I understand this is the internet, you're entitled to your opinion.
00:58:44.639 --> 00:59:01.519
To me, when a creator starts attacking another creator just because they have a different opinion, I'm like, so you want um what do they call it, where you only you think the internet should be filled with opinions that are just like yours.
00:59:01.679 --> 00:59:03.119
You even though this is the internet.
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What is it called?
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Uh like an echo chamber?
00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:08.239
What?
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Like an echo chamber?
00:59:10.480 --> 00:59:11.519
Yes, an echo chamber.
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I'm like, you think the whole internet should be an echo chamber to your beliefs and your opinions?
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The whole internet.
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Because remember, like, we're all content, like, I'm a content creator, you're a content creator, they are uh you know, we have so many content creators in our little niche, and that's what I like about it that there's not opinions out there.
00:59:29.840 --> 00:59:35.519
So I'm like, if European is you don't like Caitlin and Tyler, there's gonna be a content creator out there for that.
00:59:35.679 --> 00:59:39.920
If you're a pen is you like Kale, there's gonna be a content creator out there for that.
00:59:40.079 --> 00:59:52.239
So all the people that enjoy you know reality TV content, they can find their creator that they follow and that um they enjoy their opinions and their opinions align.
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But then when you start attacking a creator because their opinion just didn't wasn't your opinion, you don't have the same opinion.
01:00:01.199 --> 01:00:03.920
I don't know, to me, that's just like why can't I have my opinion?
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I'm not attacking you for yours, just go.
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I'm not I'm a nobody, I'm not a reality TV star, I'm not an influencer.
01:00:11.679 --> 01:00:13.760
Like so that's annoying.
01:00:13.920 --> 01:00:16.719
Um that's annoying for sure.
01:00:18.239 --> 01:00:20.639
Yeah, I can't really hard to make money on it too.
01:00:20.719 --> 01:00:43.119
Like you can put a lot of time into it, and it sometimes you have those months where you just don't make what you put in, you know, what you just don't know and I'll and I'll say you know, like there were times where uh okay, for those that don't know Elle, like Elle is it she likes things pristine, okay?
01:00:43.280 --> 01:00:48.480
Like she wants to make sure it's it's good, it's golden before she puts it out.
01:00:48.639 --> 01:00:50.400
Granted, she's getting better.
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She's getting better, but like I mean, but I'm all I am also envious of that because I wish that I could really take my time and like focus, you know.
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I I wish that I had that where I could, but my my ADHD is so bad that I'm just like, get it out, get it out.
01:01:11.360 --> 01:01:17.039
Like this last video I made, like you said, uh last video I made, um I took my time with it.
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It probably took me like 20 minutes to do 20, 30 minutes, and the views weren't even that good.
01:01:23.599 --> 01:01:26.719
So that's where I was like Ray.
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When you say I took my time with it and it took me 20 or 30 minutes, that's me.
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You know me.
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Like for me to record a TikTok, I will spend three, four hours editing that mug.
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A four-minute TikTok I spend three hours on.
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It is insane.
01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:51.119
I just recorded I recorded a video of Janelle Evans um on Friday the fourth, I think it was.
01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:59.599
And I did not get it posted until yesterday.
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I think I got it posted yesterday, finally.
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So four days, it was a 17-minute video.
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Four days me trying to edit.
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Mind you, this was also me, like it was a weekend, so I was like also spending time with the kids.
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I was in the house, so I was trying to edit when I had time.
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And then um Monday was Labor Day.
01:02:20.159 --> 01:02:22.320
I did try to work, but I had a lot of stuff happening.
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Um so it was literally I finally got the majority of it done at my daughter's dance practice because um she started dance and she's really shy, so they're letting me sit in the room with her right now.
01:02:35.360 --> 01:02:45.440
So I'm sitting in the room, and so I was like airpods in trying to like finish it, and that's where I finally got it complete, and I finally posted it.
01:02:45.519 --> 01:02:48.960
But this was like a 17-minute video that literally took me like four days.
01:02:49.920 --> 01:02:50.559
That's crazy.
01:02:50.800 --> 01:02:52.559
I can't no, I can't do it.
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It could be.
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So I always end up saying, I got it, don't worry about it.
01:03:09.679 --> 01:03:17.760
Um but I wish I really could find somebody that looked at my content and said, Okay, this is what I'm gonna do.
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Because the two people that I have found, great people, but they just didn't like I told both of them, go view my content.
01:03:25.280 --> 01:03:26.719
That is how I want it.
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Um, and they just couldn't, you know, um I would even find the pictures to say, here's the pictures that I want behind me.
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And it just it never really worked out, so I always would be like, It's fine, I got it.
01:03:40.400 --> 01:03:45.679
But I really wish I could find because I spend way too much time editing, and I hate editing.
01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:46.960
You do a lot, yeah.
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You take forever.
01:03:47.920 --> 01:03:54.719
I like I I for me, 30 minutes is a long time.
01:03:54.880 --> 01:04:09.360
There was a time where we did um where I took my time with something, and I remember it getting critiqued, and I was like, dude, I literally took my time.
01:04:09.440 --> 01:04:19.920
It took me hours, hours to do, and for the views to be low, for the critique to be bad, and I thought, I'm not doing that again.
01:04:20.239 --> 01:04:27.199
I'm not doing that again, like putting all that time just to give my little two cents, like no.
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And it's it's stressful.
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A lot of people don't understand the time that it takes because yes, I'm saying it takes me 30 minutes.
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Sometimes, listen, if I'm in a rush and I gotta do something, I just want to give you guys a tea real quick.
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It'll take me no longer than five minutes.
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That's insane.
01:04:44.559 --> 01:04:44.960
How?
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I don't even know how that's possible.
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Like, like, what are you doing?
01:04:47.760 --> 01:04:55.760
Like, I'm like, what first off, and I've told you this, what I love is that you will have on looking however.
01:04:55.920 --> 01:05:06.880
I'm like, I wish I had the confidence to be like, like, I saw one of your videos the other day, and the first comment was like, L, I can't, um, Ray, I can't focus on the video because I'm focusing on your hair.
01:05:07.039 --> 01:05:08.239
I was like, oh my god.
01:05:08.400 --> 01:05:11.119
But I also love that you're like, I don't care.
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Like, I will if I gotta get the tea out there, I got other stuff I gotta do today.
01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:18.800
So you ain't even grabbing the brush at the time.
01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:19.519
I don't care.
01:05:19.920 --> 01:05:21.519
Look like a whole cockatoo.
01:05:21.599 --> 01:05:25.360
I I saw your post on Instagram.
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I know which one you're talking about.
01:05:26.639 --> 01:05:28.880
I saw your post on Instagram, I was in bed, I was like this.
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I was like, oh shoot.
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And I like, oh the cover is over.
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Went and I said, let me make this video real quick.
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I I didn't even focus on my hair, on my makeup, nothing.
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I was still in my pajamas.
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I don't, I I just listen, I somebody when somebody and it's so funny, like the gifts that people put of like a dog with like the matted hair all over the place and stuff.
01:05:52.400 --> 01:05:58.079
And I I said, listen, I said, your tea comes before my looks.
01:05:58.320 --> 01:06:05.119
Okay, like I To try to get it out if I can get it out there as soon as possible, I I want to get it out there as soon as possible, right?
01:06:05.199 --> 01:06:09.599
Like we'll we'll worry about how I look later, but um I'm I'm gonna get it out.
01:06:09.840 --> 01:06:24.320
So I did say to myself that with this podcast, I I will clean it up for my podcast, but listen, if y'all don't care that I'm looking a hot mess.
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I love that though.
01:06:28.800 --> 01:06:31.360
And there's times though, there's times where I'm like, look at Elle.
01:06:31.519 --> 01:06:32.960
Elle's like, listen, today's not the day.
01:06:33.039 --> 01:06:34.400
Y'all get in my tea and that's it.
01:06:34.480 --> 01:06:36.000
And I'm like, good for you.
01:06:36.239 --> 01:06:36.800
Good for you.
01:06:37.039 --> 01:06:38.079
How does that feel though?
01:06:38.880 --> 01:06:42.960
There has been a couple of times, but it's really come from like seeing you just like whatever.
01:06:43.039 --> 01:06:43.679
I'm like, you know what?
01:06:43.840 --> 01:06:44.239
Who cares?
01:06:44.400 --> 01:06:49.199
Like, I don't if something happens, I don't have to like hurry up and go fix my hair and put my makeup on.
01:06:49.360 --> 01:06:52.559
So there's been times I've recorded no makeup.
01:06:52.719 --> 01:06:54.800
Um, I do still brush my hair.
01:06:55.519 --> 01:06:57.199
I do, I will still brush my hair.
01:06:57.440 --> 01:07:05.119
Um, but I have recorded, I've thrown my hair up in a ponytail before, and I have um, I mean, I recorded sick the other day.
01:07:05.280 --> 01:07:10.159
I didn't have makeup on, I was sick, um, and it was what it was, but I've I really got that.
01:07:10.320 --> 01:07:13.360
I was like, I need not to be so worried about it.
01:07:13.519 --> 01:07:16.719
If I'm not feeling well or if I don't have makeup on, I don't need to wait.
01:07:16.880 --> 01:07:21.199
I don't need to take the time to go do my makeup, and I've really got that from just kind of watching you.
01:07:21.280 --> 01:07:24.000
And I've told you before, I'm like, I'm envious that you'll do that.
01:07:24.159 --> 01:07:28.719
Like, I because I've always felt like I needed to, but you know what, you know what though?
01:07:29.199 --> 01:07:42.880
What's so funny is the times that I've done that, I have later like gone to Google to look for a picture about like David Eason or something and come across my TikToks of me looking crazy with no makeup.
01:07:42.960 --> 01:07:44.480
I'm like, oh, there she is.
01:07:44.719 --> 01:07:51.440
If somebody googles David Easton, if somebody googles David Easton, they're gonna see my TikTok video and see me looking a hot mess down there.
01:07:51.760 --> 01:07:52.639
Listen, I went.
01:07:52.960 --> 01:07:57.760
I I looked at uh I looked at the one with my hair looking like a cockatoo.
01:07:57.840 --> 01:08:02.239
My my wife looked at it and she was like, didn't even brush your hair.
01:08:02.400 --> 01:08:18.800
I said, I she said But then there's like these, and it's always the viral videos where I look like crap, like those are the ones where I look like crap, those are the ones that go, I do, I get my hair or like do my hair and my makeup and and get dressed.
01:08:18.960 --> 01:08:21.279
I'll I'll get some compliments, you know what I mean?
01:08:21.439 --> 01:08:24.000
But majority of the time, people don't care.
01:08:24.239 --> 01:08:24.960
They don't care.
01:08:25.439 --> 01:08:35.119
Like they just want the tea, and and and it uh to me, I I'm starting to call them like my FaceTime calls, you know, like I'm just yeah, I'm just FaceTime my friends.
01:08:35.760 --> 01:08:38.239
I'm just yep, girl, did you hear this?
01:08:38.479 --> 01:08:40.319
And that's it.
01:08:40.640 --> 01:08:50.479
You know, I used to think like, oh, like even though this is like just TikTok or just it's not like I'm a journalist, it's not like I'm um putting out a news article.
01:08:50.560 --> 01:08:52.880
I used to think it needs to be really professional, though.
01:08:52.960 --> 01:08:55.600
It needs to be really professional and pristine and everything.
01:08:55.920 --> 01:09:17.359
But what what I it really doesn't have to be, like during this Lancy Clancy trial, one thing that I've noticed, like a lot of the creators covering her that got a lot of views and a lot of followers, they are not, they are sitting in their living room, hair in a sideways ponytail, you know, looking whatever.
01:09:17.680 --> 01:09:31.520
And people don't care, like they really and maybe it makes them um feel even more like oh you know, they're not on there having to look there, which obviously you want to look your best at times, you know.
01:09:31.840 --> 01:09:40.159
But I'm really trying to bring myself out of that that if something pops off and I don't have makeup on, whatever, jump don't do the video.
01:09:40.319 --> 01:09:41.520
Like you don't have to.
01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:43.920
I really think people can appreciate that too.
01:09:44.159 --> 01:09:48.960
Yeah, I feel like that day your hair that day had me in a chokehold.
01:09:49.199 --> 01:09:50.000
I was like, look.
01:09:52.159 --> 01:09:52.960
It was so bad.
01:09:53.199 --> 01:09:58.239
But I uh you know, I for me, I feel like it humanizes us, you know.
01:09:58.319 --> 01:10:08.960
We're not we're not these reality TV stars, we're not news anchors, like we're just your average Joe hanging out.
01:10:09.680 --> 01:10:19.439
We're just we're saying the things that you feel uncomfortable to say or you don't want to say, or maybe you're afraid to say because you're gonna get the backlash, right?
01:10:19.600 --> 01:10:27.199
Because there's times where I'll make a video and majority of my following and everything, they're like, girl, I'm sorry, but this one was not it.
01:10:27.279 --> 01:10:29.039
And I'm like, hey, it's out.
01:10:29.199 --> 01:10:32.239
Like this was my thought, and I just had to lay it out.
01:10:32.479 --> 01:10:35.760
You don't have to agree with it, but it is what it is, right?
01:10:35.840 --> 01:10:39.840
Like, I'm glad we had the conversation, and and that's that's it.
01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:54.720
Now, granted, uh, if anyone ever uses my videos uh and I'm ending up on like national television and you've got my hair with like looking like a cockatoo, I mean, hey, it is what it is.
01:10:54.880 --> 01:11:00.640
Like, but it is um, but if people remember me, it would and it would encourage people like who is this girl?
01:11:00.720 --> 01:11:01.760
I'm gonna go find her.
01:11:07.439 --> 01:11:15.520
I would like if I saw somebody's like if I didn't know you, if I would have known you and that video just would have pop, I would have like, okay, I gotta go follow this girl.
01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:16.159
You know what I'm saying?
01:11:16.319 --> 01:11:16.720
Who is that?
01:11:17.039 --> 01:11:18.479
She just don't even care.
01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:23.520
That's that would not be a follower right off the bat for me.
01:11:25.680 --> 01:11:26.479
Such a mess.
01:11:28.079 --> 01:11:29.600
Um, listen, it is what it is.
01:11:29.680 --> 01:11:37.439
And and I and sometimes I'll tell my wife, like, God, like, it's always the one video where I look like crap that that does well.
01:11:37.760 --> 01:11:49.119
Like, I could be in my pajamas looking a hot mess, and that's the one that goes viral, and that's the one that when you Google so and so, you see me looking crazy.
01:11:49.439 --> 01:11:51.600
But that's what I've seen lately too.
01:11:51.760 --> 01:11:54.960
I'm like, oh, that's when I look at me.
01:11:56.000 --> 01:12:06.079
But like if I if I'm going on a live or if I'm doing this podcast, or if I'm gonna go on someone else's podcast, I'm gonna make sure I look presentable, you know?
01:12:06.319 --> 01:12:08.640
Like that's that's my rule.
01:12:08.720 --> 01:12:16.079
But listen, my my short clips, my short reels, my whatever is what y'all getting what you're getting.
01:12:16.239 --> 01:12:16.720
Yep.
01:12:19.119 --> 01:12:20.079
Real time.
01:12:21.119 --> 01:12:23.520
I want I I'm trying to be more like that.
01:12:23.680 --> 01:12:32.560
Like if it's the weekend and I'm in the house with the kids and something pops off, I'm not even going to my office, I'm running in the bathroom, shut the door, and I'm gonna record the video.
01:12:32.960 --> 01:12:38.000
Yeah, yeah, and then I'm gonna spend the next two hours editing to get it out.
01:12:38.159 --> 01:12:41.359
But four days, cheeses, that's it.
01:12:41.520 --> 01:12:42.319
I know, right?
01:12:42.800 --> 01:12:43.439
Exactly.
01:12:43.680 --> 01:12:47.199
But I'm not gonna spend like 30, 40 minutes doing my makeup.
01:12:47.279 --> 01:12:53.920
So I'm just gonna I'll go on looking crazy, but I'm gonna I'm gonna spend four days editing the video to get it out.
01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:58.560
But man, I wish I could find an editor so bad, but it is what it is.
01:12:59.039 --> 01:13:02.159
I hate editing, I'm too meticulous with it.
01:13:02.640 --> 01:13:14.079
And then but when I'm editing, like when I was editing the video about Janelle, as I'm saying things, all these thoughts are popping into my head about like, oh, there's a picture of her in a wheelchair, there's a picture of her putting pain all over her body.
01:13:14.159 --> 01:13:16.720
Like, let me get that because that'd be good to put here, put here.
01:13:16.880 --> 01:13:31.439
So I'm constantly when I watch a lot of people that don't do all that, they just get on there, they talk, they might show a picture or two, but like my video of Janelle, I think I went and grabbed 20 pictures to put in it.
01:13:31.600 --> 01:13:35.600
Uh uh a recording of Barbara calling Janelle hypochondriac, you know.
01:13:35.840 --> 01:13:44.399
I added so much to it, and it is for the viewers because I feel like that will keep them keep their attention more if I have those little things in there.
01:13:44.560 --> 01:13:50.159
But I can say with me, I fought I watch people that don't do that, and I like it.
01:13:50.319 --> 01:13:51.760
So I don't know if it's too much.
01:13:52.000 --> 01:13:52.720
I don't know.
01:13:53.199 --> 01:13:58.640
I think you just you just do what fits you, you know, because that's why people follow you.
01:13:58.960 --> 01:14:13.199
And and so that's what I've also learned is that I mean people uh if if you're doing the editing thing, people people will love it, but they'll love it because they love you and they love watching you and and listening to you.
01:14:13.520 --> 01:14:15.199
And that's what matters, right?
01:14:15.279 --> 01:14:22.399
Like, I mean, I'll give you a hard time all day about your editing, but at the end of the day, you're following, right?
01:14:22.560 --> 01:14:33.279
They they love you and they love what you do and what you put out, and that you put in the effort and the time to make sure that it's a video that they enjoy, and that's what matters.
01:14:33.600 --> 01:14:35.920
Yeah, you know, true.
01:14:36.399 --> 01:14:44.800
Yeah, that's not how you change things up, I guess, because I mean I gotta follow in the way that I do what I do anyway, so I probably don't need to change anything up.
01:14:45.520 --> 01:14:51.039
Yeah, I mean, I I this last video I did, it took a minute, but I was like, you know what, whatever.
01:14:51.119 --> 01:14:54.000
Like, I'm just I'm not going that deep like I did before.
01:14:54.239 --> 01:15:01.840
I st I want to go back to like where I insert like a funny, like a like a funny little like clip, but nothing crazy.
01:15:02.079 --> 01:15:06.159
Um and just just have fun with it and just move on.
01:15:06.239 --> 01:15:08.239
Like it doesn't have to be a big deal.
01:15:08.479 --> 01:15:16.560
Um the effects and stuff can be appeasing to the eye sometimes, but for me, it just it just doesn't work for me.
01:15:16.720 --> 01:15:20.159
So I have to find, you know, or I I know what works for me.
01:15:20.239 --> 01:15:21.439
I just have to stick to that.
01:15:21.600 --> 01:15:29.439
And and like I just told you, my my following, uh, especially people that have been around for these last two years, they're like, look, girl, we don't care, just put it out.
01:15:29.760 --> 01:15:31.039
Just put it out, right?
01:15:31.199 --> 01:15:33.359
Yeah, crazy or not.
01:15:33.520 --> 01:15:36.399
Actually, we prefer the crazy hair, so you know.
01:15:36.800 --> 01:15:37.119
Really?
01:15:37.279 --> 01:15:41.279
Listen, I'll I'll look a whole mess and I still get support, so I'm I'm with it.
01:15:42.399 --> 01:15:43.359
Exactly.
01:15:43.680 --> 01:15:44.399
Exactly.
01:15:44.720 --> 01:15:51.760
Uh well, is I is there anything that I maybe missed or or anything that maybe you want to talk about?
01:15:52.720 --> 01:15:53.439
I don't think so.
01:15:53.520 --> 01:15:55.520
I mean, the thing with Ryan and Amanda is a big thing.
01:15:55.600 --> 01:15:58.239
I know a lot of people's questioning if something else happened.
01:15:58.479 --> 01:16:06.319
Um, a lot of people, it's like something must have happened because why did she wait four months after Amanda was arrested?
01:16:06.560 --> 01:16:16.399
Um and I don't know for sure, but I do think from my understanding, there was a discussion that Amanda would go to like treatment.
01:16:17.199 --> 01:16:21.039
That she would go to treatment and that didn't happen.
01:16:21.279 --> 01:16:28.000
If I I'm thinking from McKenzie's standpoint alone, I've seen some people say McKenzie's only doing this to be bitter.
01:16:28.399 --> 01:16:30.319
If she was gonna be bitter, she would have done it right after Amanda.
01:16:30.720 --> 01:16:35.359
First off, she she had every right to do this right after Amanda was arrested.
01:16:35.520 --> 01:16:36.000
I would have.
01:16:36.079 --> 01:16:36.159
Yeah.
01:16:36.720 --> 01:16:38.880
As a parent thinking about my kids and putting them first.
01:16:39.039 --> 01:16:47.039
If you just lost if you just lost custody of your child because you put them in danger, you're definitely not about to be real my kids.
01:16:47.760 --> 01:16:48.720
Right, absolutely.
01:16:49.600 --> 01:16:49.840
I agree.
01:16:50.880 --> 01:17:01.600
Yeah, there was people saying she did this to be bitter, but I'm like, you know, if she was trying to be bitter, um, which while she had every right to do it as soon as it happened, she might want to done it right when it happened.
01:17:01.920 --> 01:17:13.359
But I think she was trying to see what was gonna happen, if if Ryan and Amanda were gonna split, if she was gonna go to rehab, if she was really gonna be serious about getting sober.
01:17:13.600 --> 01:17:16.159
Um, I think something could have happened.
01:17:16.239 --> 01:17:16.960
I don't know.
01:17:17.199 --> 01:17:34.720
But if I'm McKenzie and I'm just trying to see how things are gonna go, the videos that Amanda has posted on the internet, she doesn't seem to me personally, she still doesn't seem to be the Amanda that we uh came to know when she was sober after her and Ryan got out of the facility.
01:17:34.880 --> 01:17:38.079
She just no, no, she doesn't know.
01:17:38.399 --> 01:17:44.000
Like she seems to be posting like erratic videos again that are just I don't know.
01:17:44.159 --> 01:17:48.960
Um so if I were McKinsey, I would have definitely done this.
01:17:49.279 --> 01:17:54.880
And listen, like if she's testing that she's like negative.
01:17:54.960 --> 01:17:57.760
Now, granted, she's not being tested for certain stuff, right?
01:17:58.000 --> 01:18:04.960
But my thought, my immediate thought is just check yourself into rehab and get better.
01:18:05.199 --> 01:18:21.039
Take a break from the social media crap, take a break from all of this stuff and just focus on getting better because all she's done since she admitted that she relapsed was go on TikTok and sell things on TikTok shop.
01:18:21.199 --> 01:18:26.479
She's literally going back to what she was doing prior to admitting that she relapsed.
01:18:26.720 --> 01:18:30.800
So on occasions, she'll say something, but she's not really.
01:18:31.600 --> 01:18:50.079
She said that when she was going to continue her journey on TikTok, that she was going to share her journey of recovery, that we were going to see the real, the raw, authentic part of what it is like to be in recovery and going through those motions.
01:18:50.399 --> 01:18:52.000
We have not seen that.
01:18:52.319 --> 01:18:56.800
I thought when she posted this, I thought, and everybody told me, like, no, she needs to go to rehab.
01:18:56.960 --> 01:19:06.640
And I thought, well, I thought, well, yeah, but if she's doing this, right, even though I I didn't agree with her, even though all the things I thought, but if she does this, maybe this can help somebody, right?
01:19:06.720 --> 01:19:14.560
Like maybe this can help somebody in the future, or or maybe this can help somebody in the now to show them, hey, I'm going through this too.
01:19:14.800 --> 01:19:16.399
We're gonna get through this together.
01:19:16.640 --> 01:19:21.279
That was my mentality, but we haven't seen that at all.
01:19:21.520 --> 01:19:22.960
We haven't seen anything at all.
01:19:23.119 --> 01:19:24.720
We haven't seen a speck of it.
01:19:24.880 --> 01:19:42.960
All we have seen is TikTok shop, and that makes me believe that she doesn't want to hold herself accountable, she doesn't feel bad for her actions, she doesn't care because she's always going to have somebody there to hold her up and say, poor little Amanda, it's okay because you're an addict and addiction is a disease.
01:19:43.119 --> 01:19:47.600
But at the end of the day, it is up to her to get better and be better.
01:19:47.920 --> 01:19:55.600
So we can no longer, especially myself, be an enabler to addiction.
01:19:56.000 --> 01:19:57.439
You can praise all you want.
01:19:57.520 --> 01:19:58.319
You can like Amanda.
01:19:58.560 --> 01:20:00.319
Hell, Amanda has me blocked.
01:20:00.479 --> 01:20:03.520
I still like Amanda for who she really is.
01:20:04.079 --> 01:20:04.560
I do.
01:20:04.640 --> 01:20:06.560
I I like who she really is.
01:20:06.640 --> 01:20:11.520
When you get to really know her personality, she's fun, she's funny, she's lighthearted.
01:20:12.079 --> 01:20:14.239
We're not seeing that, right?
01:20:15.359 --> 01:20:27.600
And and and that for me is is frustrating because you know, I just want I I want to be able to see that, but I'm also expecting too much from a recovering addict, and that's not my place.
01:20:27.760 --> 01:20:31.119
My place is not to expect anything from anyone.
01:20:32.640 --> 01:20:34.239
Yeah, but uh you're right.
01:20:34.319 --> 01:20:41.840
It's hard to expect anything from somebody that's a recovering addict because it's so but she did tell us, she said, you know, I'm gonna show you guys what it's like.
01:20:42.000 --> 01:20:44.960
So you holding her to that, like that's what you told us.
01:20:45.039 --> 01:20:48.640
I think you're you're right to do that, to say this is not what we're seeing.
01:20:48.800 --> 01:20:52.560
You told us that, and I think that could have been, you know, I said the same thing.
01:20:52.640 --> 01:20:54.479
I was like, well, I said something different than you.
01:20:54.560 --> 01:20:57.840
I said she needs to go to rehab, and you were like, Oh, let's see.
01:20:57.920 --> 01:21:04.159
Like, maybe she don't have to go to rehab, but she can go through this journey, talk about it publicly, share with people, and it could help her, other people.
01:21:04.399 --> 01:21:06.479
I was like, why don't you go to rehab?
01:21:06.560 --> 01:21:11.439
She's gonna, and a lot of people was like, rehab is not for everyone, you know.
01:21:11.680 --> 01:21:19.920
A lot of recovery mads said I was on DRUGS, do DRUGS for this long, and I got sober by myself.
01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:25.760
I did not go to recovery, so not everybody, not recovery, rehab, not everybody needs rehab.
01:21:25.840 --> 01:21:32.239
So then I thought, okay, maybe I am being a little too expect that that's what she has to do to get sober.
01:21:32.479 --> 01:21:39.199
But being honest with you, thinking about things in reality for what their life is right now, so she gets these charges.
01:21:39.279 --> 01:21:48.159
She she's relapsed before this, obviously, and it listen, I think she started slow, um, especially based off what her sister said.
01:21:48.319 --> 01:21:53.920
If she had relapsed like a year earlier, I think it did start slow, but it got bad.
01:21:54.159 --> 01:21:59.039
It I mean, the cemetery video, the video of her dancing in front of Ryan.
01:21:59.279 --> 01:22:01.039
I mean, she was not well.
01:22:01.600 --> 01:22:05.520
Um so we see all that.
01:22:05.680 --> 01:22:06.640
She gets arrested.
01:22:06.720 --> 01:22:20.079
And one of the 911 calls, um, the officer, or maybe it was a dispatch that says they it was a dispatch that said they received a call from um someone on the roads reporting Amanda, saying that she was like all over the roads or something like that.
01:22:20.399 --> 01:22:27.600
Um they detailed her car, like B of I's, you know, she's we have someone reporting that she's all over the roads.
01:22:27.760 --> 01:22:32.159
So she has her child in the car, she's all over the roads, she gets arrested, it goes public.
01:22:32.479 --> 01:22:34.880
Um, the abuse, it goes public.
01:22:35.039 --> 01:22:38.399
The 911 call from her outside the house, it goes public.
01:22:38.560 --> 01:22:41.520
All of these things, she loses custody of Presley.
01:22:41.680 --> 01:22:43.760
Uh, Brandon has to go back and live with his dad.
01:22:43.920 --> 01:22:46.720
All these things happen so publicly.
01:22:47.039 --> 01:23:02.479
And then rather than really focusing on herself and just taking the time to uh deal with what she's going through, she jumps into a job, jumps into another job, jumps back in, uh, posts on social media all these affiliate links.
01:23:02.560 --> 01:23:18.479
And I think she maybe she should have some time where maybe she didn't work for a while and put in the time to go to the meetings that she because she did a video um a while back saying a little update, you know, um, and I think this was like the only update into where she's at concerning her sobriety.
01:23:18.800 --> 01:23:23.760
She at first she said, you know, I try to go to two meetings a week, but if if not two, definitely one.
01:23:24.079 --> 01:23:26.319
Definitely one meeting, you know, at the least.
01:23:26.560 --> 01:23:32.079
So but she's working two jobs, and now she can see Presley.
01:23:32.319 --> 01:23:39.039
Last I heard it was under the supervision of Ryan that if she has Presley, Ryan has to be somewhere around.
01:23:39.840 --> 01:23:44.239
So now she can see Presley, but she still doesn't have custody of her.
01:23:44.720 --> 01:23:48.399
Um Brandon is the same thing.
01:23:48.479 --> 01:23:49.920
I think it has to be supervised.
01:23:50.079 --> 01:23:57.279
I just think, wouldn't this make things harder for her as someone that's in recovery to jump into two jobs?
01:23:57.520 --> 01:24:05.359
Um you know, obviously she's so worried about finances that she's posting all these affiliate links and the whole game, like, oh, make money on the game or whatever.
01:24:05.520 --> 01:24:05.920
I don't know.
01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:12.720
I just felt like maybe it would have been better if she would have taken some time to go to meetings, maybe sit down and record.
01:24:12.880 --> 01:24:21.039
It would have been very therapeutic if she would have recorded videos of today is day one of sobriety, this is what I'm dealing with, this is what I'm going to upload that to her TikTok.
01:24:21.199 --> 01:24:37.680
I think she could have gotten so much respect and a lot of followers if she would have put a video up every day, this is what I'm going through, this is what I'm dealing with, I am having cravings, you know, and being just really true to what her her journey was and what she was going through each day.
01:24:37.840 --> 01:24:41.520
But I I feel like, and I follow her everywhere.
01:24:42.159 --> 01:24:52.079
And at times I will go and look at her comments and look at her views to see kind of I mean her back in the day, anything that she posted, a ton of support, hundreds of comments.
01:24:52.399 --> 01:24:56.479
Now, like she might get 30 comments, you know, right?
01:24:56.720 --> 01:25:00.960
So I know she ain't making the money on YouTube, I mean, on social media like she did before.
01:25:01.039 --> 01:25:11.039
I don't know how much money she made before, but I'm sure she made some, and now I bet it's probably next to nothing because she's not even getting the views or the comments like she used to.
01:25:11.520 --> 01:25:27.279
And I think it's because people they see her content not being anything about her sobriety, and it's just her back to living life, moonwalking at work, you know, uh affiliate links, and they I've seen people even comment saying, All I've seen now is affiliate links on your page.
01:25:27.359 --> 01:25:28.960
Like it's an ad after ad.
01:25:29.039 --> 01:25:29.680
I don't like it.
01:25:30.399 --> 01:25:39.279
And I think she's just I don't know, it could have been it could she could have done something different, and it really could have helped her, maybe, and helped other people.
01:25:39.600 --> 01:25:51.760
But I worry that jumping into having to go and listen, I know you got bills, so you gotta work, but two jobs on somebody that is just trying to recover, uh it's a lot, it's stressful.
01:25:51.920 --> 01:25:58.319
It's a lot on top of when when Ryan is home and and you're most like you're the one taking care of that kid.
01:25:58.640 --> 01:25:59.279
Yeah.
01:25:59.760 --> 01:26:06.880
You know, you're the one taking care of the kid, you're the one cooking, you're the one cleaning, you're the one doing all the things, right?
01:26:07.600 --> 01:26:11.920
So um you don't have any time to recover.
01:26:12.399 --> 01:26:26.079
You don't really have time because once that stops, once all of all of the busyness stops and you're really sitting there, can you sit there and not go into the thoughts of of relapse, right?
01:26:26.239 --> 01:26:26.479
Right.
01:26:26.560 --> 01:26:31.279
And and like deal with the stress of what your life is, right?
01:26:31.600 --> 01:26:33.600
Because you do have all this on top of it now.
01:26:34.479 --> 01:26:37.680
What would you because like I said, I I agree.
01:26:37.840 --> 01:26:42.720
I think if she started vlogging like like they did back in the day, right?
01:26:42.880 --> 01:26:46.399
Vlogging her life, vlogging every day, what it's like.
01:26:46.479 --> 01:27:00.960
Uh all people would be watching, people would be tuning in, people that are in recovery would probably wouldn't respect it, people that um are are currently active in their addiction would probably be like, oh my god, she's going through it.
01:27:01.199 --> 01:27:02.560
Maybe I can go through too, right?
01:27:02.640 --> 01:27:18.800
So there was so much room there for her to be able to show, like, yes, I messed up, yes, you know, uh making mistakes and having slips, they they do happen, big or small, they they do happen, right?
01:27:18.960 --> 01:27:26.800
No matter who you are, it it it it doesn't have a favorite, but we can get through it, right?
01:27:26.960 --> 01:27:30.319
And and we're gonna get through it, we're gonna do it together, and and whatever.
01:27:31.359 --> 01:27:37.760
I always tell people, like, man, especially if you've been on TV, you're I hate when people waste their time.
01:27:38.000 --> 01:27:40.800
Like, why not just be a speaker?
01:27:41.119 --> 01:27:55.439
Have have a speak have have speaking engagements with people, encourage people, teach people about your life and your journey, and and how to how they can maybe overcome those situations that that you've gone through that was hard for you to get by, right?
01:27:55.520 --> 01:28:00.800
Like, there's so many people out there, kids still that are watching their show, even though it's It's not playing anymore.
01:28:00.880 --> 01:28:02.079
It's probably canceled by now.
01:28:02.239 --> 01:28:16.960
But like new generation of kids that are watching this and watching somebody go through something like this and think, oh my God, you know, my parents are dealing with this now, or or I'm dealing with this now.
01:28:17.119 --> 01:28:21.359
Why not why not have speaking engagements and speak with people and encourage people?
01:28:21.600 --> 01:28:24.319
Um that's just my thought though.
01:28:24.399 --> 01:28:26.800
I just think it's a waste, but that's just my thought.
01:28:27.039 --> 01:28:40.000
But uh last question for you is what advice would you give someone that wants to do uh content creation like like yourself?
01:28:40.239 --> 01:28:43.039
Like what if they're like I would do what Elle does?
01:28:43.439 --> 01:28:48.960
Okay, and maybe this might not be what you're talking about, but I have to say this because people do come to me and say they want to start doing this.
01:28:49.199 --> 01:28:51.760
Right off rip, do not use your real name.
01:28:51.920 --> 01:28:56.640
And it's not because you might have anything to hide, but they're gonna dig into your family.
01:28:56.720 --> 01:29:02.399
And listen, my sins, my brother's sins ain't my sins, okay?
01:29:02.720 --> 01:29:07.359
My uncle's sins ain't my sins, but you know what I'm saying?
01:29:07.680 --> 01:29:12.079
So and and a lot of people's like, oh, you changed your name because you got something to hide.
01:29:12.319 --> 01:29:34.319
No, I changed my name because I started YouTube, and then there was this beef with another creator who went dug into my background, who found out financial information on me, who, you know, and then I'm like arrested, and like there's questions on how that even happened, and people with my address and people that knows my aunt's name, and it was so much so.
01:29:34.720 --> 01:29:37.199
I don't really have skeletons in my closet, okay?
01:29:37.279 --> 01:29:45.680
I've like I live a pretty whatever life, but your family deserves their privacy.
01:29:45.840 --> 01:29:52.159
So even if you want to start doing content, don't ever use your real name, use a different name.
01:29:52.319 --> 01:30:06.159
Um, if you have a family that you do want to talk about from time to time, use nicknames because there's been people that went and followed my my my daughter's social media account because I've mentioned her name and I used to talk, you know, I used to talk about my kids way more.
01:30:06.800 --> 01:30:12.000
But they searched for your kids, yeah, yeah, like to follow my kids on social media.
01:30:12.399 --> 01:30:12.960
So weird.
01:30:13.840 --> 01:30:23.520
Um, there was this one girl that really hated me, and she went and found my Facebook page, and she commented under a picture of my daughter, like talking shit about me under the page of my daughter.
01:30:23.600 --> 01:30:25.039
My daughter was like 12 at the time.
01:30:25.439 --> 01:30:28.000
Yes, she my daughter was like 12 at the time.
01:30:28.159 --> 01:30:44.560
She was doing a 4-H um, she was doing this thing for 4-H, and it was a contest, and my daughter won, and it was pictures that I posted, and this weird lady commented under the pictures of my daughter, talking about like how trap how much of trash your mother is.
01:30:44.640 --> 01:30:46.640
Your mother is such trash, you're such a backstabber.
01:30:46.720 --> 01:30:47.279
And I'm like, I don't know.
01:30:47.439 --> 01:30:48.079
Oh my god.
01:30:48.560 --> 01:30:50.880
It was somebody from the internet, you know.
01:30:51.119 --> 01:30:53.520
Um, so protect yourself.
01:30:53.760 --> 01:30:58.079
Don't ever use a different name, give your kids and your husband a nickname.
01:30:58.319 --> 01:31:07.760
Um, and also do not take people's content and just throw it up on your page, try to credit people, um, be friendly with people.
01:31:07.920 --> 01:31:15.119
If another creator does upset you with something, reach out to that creator and be friendly and say, hey, this is the you know, blah blah blah blah.
01:31:15.439 --> 01:31:20.319
Because, you know, it does suck when you have issues with other people.
01:31:20.720 --> 01:31:22.239
It it sucks, you know.
01:31:22.479 --> 01:31:30.960
Um, and I wouldn't say uh make a lot of friends in the in the background because that can be difficult.
01:31:31.119 --> 01:31:34.640
Ray, you know this as well having friends that do this.
01:31:34.960 --> 01:31:46.000
Um so be friendly with people, but I wouldn't go around trying to be best friends with all the creators because it can be difficult when you got different opinions, that can cause for blow-ups.
01:31:46.239 --> 01:31:56.800
Me and Ray, we've had stuff like this happen where we've been friendly with other creators and then different opinions will cause things to blow up, and next thing you know, they're on their page talking crap about you.
01:31:57.119 --> 01:32:00.159
Be friendly, you don't have to try to make a bunch of friends.
01:32:00.399 --> 01:32:06.159
Um, yeah, I don't and just do whatever your interest is.
01:32:06.399 --> 01:32:10.880
You know, you don't have to be like another creator, get on and talk about, and I always encourage people to do it.
01:32:10.960 --> 01:32:18.159
When people come to me and say they're thinking about doing a YouTube channel, I'm like, do it, do it if you have the time and you got the energy, do it.
01:32:18.319 --> 01:32:39.760
I can't promise you that it's gonna take off the second that you do it, or it might take I know this one creator that she was on YouTube for five years, and she was stuck at like 5,000 followers, and her content might get like a thousand views, and uh something happened, and there was this topic that happened, and she started covering it, and she blew a bar.
01:32:39.920 --> 01:32:42.319
And now she's got like 600,000 followers.
01:32:42.880 --> 01:32:48.000
Oh my gosh, yeah, she was on for five years, and she just stayed really stagnant.
01:32:48.239 --> 01:33:04.000
But there was that makes me feel good because my following is like stagnant at 2500, and I'm like, I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but I'm just like, look, I'm just gonna keep posting and keep doing my thing, and and it it's whatever happens, happens, you know.
01:33:04.079 --> 01:33:08.640
And and I need to I keep that mindset because that's what happened with TikTok.
01:33:08.720 --> 01:33:10.399
I wasn't expecting stuff to blow up.
01:33:10.479 --> 01:33:14.079
I just thought, well, I'm just gonna probably reach a couple people, and it is what it is.
01:33:14.239 --> 01:33:15.600
So I agree with that.
01:33:15.920 --> 01:33:16.640
Anything else?
01:33:16.800 --> 01:33:19.039
Yeah, yeah, that's probably it.
01:33:19.199 --> 01:33:19.840
Yeah.
01:33:20.399 --> 01:33:20.720
Okay.
01:33:20.960 --> 01:33:21.760
Well, thank you.
01:33:22.000 --> 01:33:26.000
Thank you so much for coming on, and where can people find you?
01:33:26.960 --> 01:33:28.960
Uh like you said earlier, I'm everywhere.
01:33:29.039 --> 01:33:32.960
I'm on X, I'm on Instagram, I'm on Facebook, I'm on YouTube, I'm on TikTok.
01:33:33.039 --> 01:33:36.319
I'm not on OnlyFans though, so you'll never find me there.
01:33:36.800 --> 01:33:38.399
You'll never find me there.
01:33:38.960 --> 01:33:54.880
Um maybe Feed Finder at some point if we you know ever get desperate, but you know, all the the the rated or what what rated not rated um X.
01:33:55.439 --> 01:33:58.079
On the other pages beneath that, you can find me.
01:33:58.159 --> 01:34:03.039
And I'm LB or LB official um everywhere else, yeah.
01:34:03.680 --> 01:34:09.760
All right, thank you for inviting me because this is early on in your journey, and I'm I'm excited that you invited me.
01:34:09.920 --> 01:34:10.479
I'm excited to see.
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I thank you.
01:34:12.399 --> 01:34:13.199
I'm I'm excited.
01:34:13.279 --> 01:34:14.960
I appreciate you taking the time to come on.
01:34:15.039 --> 01:34:20.800
I know that you're you're busy as well, and um hopefully I can I can have you on down the road again.
01:34:20.960 --> 01:34:23.199
But thank you so much for for taking that time.
01:34:23.279 --> 01:34:23.840
I appreciate it.
01:34:23.920 --> 01:34:32.079
And if you guys haven't already, make sure you guys go follow LB official all over social media, and we will uh talk to you guys soon.
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