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Welcome to No Left Field, the show for busting boundaries and expanding possibilities.
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And we have fun doing it.
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Do we though?
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Hey listeners, summer may be winding up, but we're still getting down.
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Welcome to part two of Summer Music 2026.
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This time we get into Rowena's mixtape, dedicated to all the folks who buoyed Ed and me through a difficult season of cancer treatment.
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Be sure to check the show notes for a link to my playlist.
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Now, without further ado, kick back and drop in.
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We're so happy you turned this on.
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I am so ready for this conversation because you created this mind-blowing playlist, which has been just so enjoyable, such a source of enjoyment and wonder and discovery for me over the past week or so.
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Hell yeah.
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Um on the drive over with Colette, I was saying I've never been so excited to record an episode with you.
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And I was playing some of the songs for her, too, and rock in her world a little bit.
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So it's the gift that keeps on giving.
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It's barely even started.
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So let's get into your playlist.
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Can we do that?
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Oh my god, yes.
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So I'm sorry, I'm singing a lot today.
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Don't be sorry.
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You've got you have my God, I'm sure that our listeners would much rather hear your singing.
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No.
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You have a beautiful singing voice.
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Oh, thank you.
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Oh, thank you.
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My goal with my what I'm calling sort of a summer mixtape too.
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So just listen, hear me out for a second.
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I know mixtape is sort of a musical genre in and of itself with hip-hop roots.
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And what I mean by mixtape is like the thing that we did with our cassettes when we made mixtapes for our friends and we thought about them.
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So what I my intention with my summer mixtape or playlist was picking a bunch of songs that you already know that we know together.
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Yeah.
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And introducing you to some new songs.
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And in the process of that, I introduced myself to a bunch of new songs.
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So uh these were songs that um in in some cases I had only just learned about and was like, what's this?
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This is this is because I've been thinking about, I mean, I think I said last year on the episode of our summer playlist that we recorded last year but released this year that uh I have a summer playlist that I start in like February because I'm really dying for summer.
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And I don't remember that, but that's great.
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It's like I mean, it's actually kind of beautiful in February sometimes in San Francisco.
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Also can be warm and sunny, but it's that sort of anticipation of the longer days and the and the you know, the the feeling of heat and recreation, I'll just say, um, that I'm craving.
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So I think about like music is so transporting.
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Yeah.
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And you and I share a love of music.
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Yeah.
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You are you're one of my favorite music buddies.
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Um, we talked about that last week, and it it's one of the our favorite pastimes is to um put our beloveds to bed.
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They sometimes uh peter out before we do, and then you and I have an after-after party of playing new music for each other.
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So so part of my mixtape uh enthusiasm was like, oh, I get to share these new songs with Jason.
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But like I said, they were like not just new songs for you, but I was like getting excited about what is the song of the summer.
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So in my research for what is the song of the summer 2026, I discovered a bunch of new songs.
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And in my my playlist where yours had one song from 2026, right?
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Like the song of the summer.
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Right.
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And then the most recent before that was 2021.
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And the most recent before that was 2021.
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I do have a song from 1976, but I have, let's see, one, uh, a two, a three, a four, five, six, maybe seven songs from 2026 out of my 17.
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So the majority are new songs and one from 2025, which really is sort of a 2020.
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So let's just say I know which one it is, too.
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Okay, okay.
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Oh, I know it.
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So see, I was very excited to learn more about my playlist through your eyes and ears and the vibes.
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Um I know with with your playlist, given that how extensive it was, a little bit longer than you.
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Some some dozens of songs longer than mine, I had to categorize them.
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And so I made groupings.
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I didn't need to do that for my playlist, but I sort of enjoyed doing it for yours so much that I a little bit made categories or sort of related my songs in categorical fashion to related them so that you could have a reference point.
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Great.
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Um, and then the other thing I'll say, and this I think is really important, is like since last I I'm sort of thinking of my, you know, it's been a year since our last summer playlist, actually, a year and two days, right?
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When we recorded that.
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And I really want to take you on a journey.
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Well, hell, you've been on the journey for the last year.
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Like so much of the last year has been about people caring for me and Ed.
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So yay, hooray.
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Ed is on the other side of cancer.
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Um, but starting in earnest in July, you know, Ed Ed had chemo for all fall, and then this crazy surgery in January, and then recovering all spring.
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So a lot of this, this whole playlist is a dedication to the the people who held us through the cancer journey.
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I dedicate this playlist to all of you.
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If any of you are listening, you know who you are.
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And then there are some specific people that I want to reference who are musical influences to me, some of whom I've dedicated specific songs in my playlist to, and then I have some sort of like honorable mention songs that are tied to some of those people.
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Great.
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My God, it I didn't think it could get any more meaningful than it already was, but she just did.
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I got actually the goosebumps have faded, but about 30 seconds ago I got goosebumps from what you were saying.
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It's like that mixtape feeling.
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Like I'm making this mixtape, and you all are a part of this.
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One of my categories, I'll just say, is impossible to resist getting down to this.
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So there's a bunch of songs on my playlist that are impossible to resist getting down to this.
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I got one of them in my head right now.
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And like that is the feeling that I had with the support system.
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Like, I can't say that I was exactly down.
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I think I was down in some of that, you know?
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But like the buoying, I've used the, you know, ad verb buoying and that support.
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Like, I want you all to know that it was impossible to stay down because of y'all.
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So And a buoy is a kind of floaty, let it be noticed.
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Yeah, so maybe it was a flamingo buoy.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So uh without further ado, the first song on my playlist is a mashup by a guy named Adam Wright, who goes who whose whose moniker is Adam Music, all one word.
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And it's a mashup of two Harry Styles songs from Fine Line, I think the album, and they are Adore You and Watermelon Sugar.
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Uh-huh.
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And I have this in my bubblegum bumpin' flamingo float category, which is uh a category that I a designation that I had for you.
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What I really love about this a couple things.
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Uh I believe it starts walk into rainbow paradise, strawberry lipstick state of mind.
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Hello, summer mixtape, strawberry lipstick state of mind, and it has this really nice fade into that.
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Feels to me like the top of something, like like the very opening crescendo.
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So I just loved the audio experience of that.
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And then I have like a I've listened to a lot of Harry Styles.
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This one goes out to you, Bubert, aka Skyla.
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Number one Harry Styles fan.
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Number one Harry Styles fan.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And has given me such an appreciation for Harry.
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And um, and yeah, I I really like a mashup.
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Yeah.
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Did you think that this mashup worked?
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Like, like I know you had a little trouble finding it initially.
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Once you found it, what did you have a good experience?
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I did.
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I did.
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Adore You is because I I'm not I I don't know that many Harry Style songs.
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Okay.
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So I'm picking from a very small group, but Adore You is my favorite Harry Style song.
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Awesome.
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By far.
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Okay.
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So it it can't go wrong having Adore You in it.
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And watermelon sugar um was first shared with me by my younger, my I can call her my younger sister, my sister-in-law, Stephanie.
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Yeah, I love it.
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It was right before COVID.
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I think she shared this play a playlist with me that had watermelon sugar on it.
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And I didn't I didn't love it when I first heard it, but it's totally grown on me over the years.
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Um and so I loved the mashup because it's got two songs that I really like.
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And I jump in.
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Please.
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So one of the reasons that it works is that both songs, this is according to Gemini, share a bouncy mid-tempo groove about 95 BPM in complementary keys, making them a natural candidate for mashups.
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Did you know that, Earlina?
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No, I didn't, but that's so awesome.
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Yeah, and it really flowed nicely because uh clearly Adam Music didn't have to work that hard to get the the the the rhythms and the melodies to jibe.
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They just sort of naturally did.
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Which are floated into and out of each other really seamlessly.
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I had that's so awesome that you pointed that out.
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I there were other mashups with watermelon sugar, and they didn't work.
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Like I I was just curious and listening to them.
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So I do think, Adam Music, you are on to something with with your with your ear and your um, like Jason said, the way you've shopped for things that are already compatible or complimentary.
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Well done.
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It's a little down tempo um for a bumpin' flamingo float song, but I again felt like it's a warm-up.
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It's the number one song on the playlist.
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Like we're we're arriving into the mixtape.
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Well, Gemini agrees with you.
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Uh, starting the playlist with an unofficial mashup sets an energetic, playful tone.
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It demonstrates how two distinct hits from the same album era can be blended into a continuous, sun-drenched pop groove.
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And I did not tell Gemini that this was a summer playlist.
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Oh, come on, Gemini!
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Shall I move on?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Uh the second song is dedicated to my friend Joel.
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Um, who I just have fun having like inappropriate, like saucy, spicy, uh jokey with.
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So this song is called Slip and Slide.
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It's awesome that you did the BPMs because I was like, what is my favorite BPM?
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I didn't get very far, but this is around 100.
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So we're we're amping up a little bit, okay?
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And um it's Mossica and De Genius.
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This is a song.
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So uh one day Ed and I were coming back from the East Bay from your place, and I was, I don't know, I was reading my feed uh from the New York Times, and they had um what's his bucket, who has a podcast that whose name I'm is escaping me, um, had like five songs of summer that will get you moving.
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What could be more up my alley than checking out those songs?
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So there are five songs from Dudlar, who from Podcast Doodlar?
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From Podcast Doodlar.
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Um and okay, here.
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His name, you do you know Doodlar?
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You probably do.
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I don't.
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Uh John Karamanica.
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Don't.
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Okay.
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He's in his car.
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Karamonica.
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And um, this is a compilation and Arjun Srivatsa and Joe Cascarelli.
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So so those are the podcasters?
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Thank you so much.
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They're at least responsible for the five songs to get you moving this summer.
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Um, or the songs of the week.
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Anyways, this is the first of five songs.
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Slip and slide, Moscow and Degenious.
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The first of five songs on that they listed on the pod, or first of the five songs that made your playlist?
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All five made my playlist.
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Oh my god.
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Okay.
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All five made my playlist.
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Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam.
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Done.
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Yes.
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Okay, so to get you moving.
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That's what I that And this is a 26 release.
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And it's a 26 release.
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Um, I I won't try to sing it, but like um um, it has a like ska kind of reggae tone, like mm-mm, mm-mm.
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I did a slip and then a side.
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I guess I'm gonna sing it.
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And then I get you inside you.
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Oh, the girl can ride you.
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Yeah, the girl can ride you.
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Oh, then you slip it and then you side you, and then you slip it inside you.
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Oh, the girl can ride you.
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Yeah, the girl can ride you.
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But like this.
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You cannot um not move.
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You cannot not move, right?
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Am I I meant the middle of your punch?
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You have to bounce.
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You have to bounce when you're listening to this song.
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Totally.
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Yeah.
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And there's like this that that little thing that you were doing.
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The back of the book.
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It's hill and gully.
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Hill and gully.
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Oh, that's right.
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Hill and gully.
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That's right.
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That's right.
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That's right.
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That's what actually works.
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It popped up when I looked at the lyrics.
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Yes, exactly.
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I looked up the lyrics too, and then uh and that's like G-Y-A-A-L-Gell.
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Um I was feel yes, I'm I'm I'm smitten with this song.
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It's such a summer luscious song.
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It's so like playful and a little, you know, dirty in the right ways, I think.
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Like, like uh lots of coconut oil.
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And um and libation.
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It's it's libacious.
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So slip and slap.
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Party song.
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It's a which is a party song.
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It's a party song.
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Oh yeah, that's a category.
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Party song.
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Yes.
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Bring your roll roll out the cooler and the speaker.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I could talk like pool side.
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This this pool side.
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Yeah, pool side.
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And the little bit of video that I've seen is some really fun dancing.
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Oh, great.
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Yes.
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Oh, great.
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Um a couple little factoids if you're interested.
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No, of course I am.
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Eat this shit up.
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Uh Massica is one of the modern is one of modern dancehall's premier lyricists.
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Oh, dance hall.
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And uh parting with D genius Stephen McGregor, the legendary son of reggae icon Freddie McGregor.
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Oh, no way! Oh, awesome.
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Okay.
00:16:07.919 --> 00:16:12.000
Yeah, so there's uh it's bridging two generations of Jamaican musical innovation.
00:16:12.399 --> 00:16:13.120
Oh my god.
00:16:13.360 --> 00:16:14.799
I re feeling Iri.
00:16:15.679 --> 00:16:16.480
So yeah.
00:16:16.720 --> 00:16:20.000
Um yeah, a little fun fact about this collab.
00:16:20.879 --> 00:16:22.639
Yeah, that's awesome.
00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:26.720
Collab is a huge theme in these five songs.
00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:30.480
And that's something we talked a little bit about last week.
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We were talking about, for example, the Carly Ray Jepsen and Owl City collab.
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Like, like that it also just feels better together, feels like of summer, right?
00:16:43.200 --> 00:16:45.840
Like the party, like a party.
00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:46.000
Yeah.
00:16:46.240 --> 00:16:47.600
Bring out together.
00:16:47.919 --> 00:16:54.799
Yes, let's get together, partying in promptu spontaneity, uh, you know, just being in the park.
00:16:54.879 --> 00:16:55.120
Yeah.
00:16:55.279 --> 00:17:00.879
One of the things we like to do is walk over to Dolores Park and just what what are people playing on their speakers?
00:17:01.039 --> 00:17:08.880
You know, I've definitely double-tapped the back of my phone to uh figure out what people are playing in the park.
00:17:09.119 --> 00:17:12.880
This is like, I think we talked about this on our first summer podcast.
00:17:13.119 --> 00:17:21.599
Like, like one of the pleasures of figuring out even what a song of the summer is, is like the the popularity of it.
00:17:21.759 --> 00:17:24.079
It's like on all the radio stations.
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It's coming out of the car speakers, it's on the boom boxes, it's in the park.
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It's like, it's like a uh connective uh uh tool for bringing people together.
00:17:33.920 --> 00:17:53.279
And I think uh we were saying last year, like we have less and less of that with our more curated music content and our ability to sort of like just please ourselves, but there's something really fun and beautiful about uh connecting to other people's music and and and people, you know, vibing.
00:17:54.640 --> 00:17:56.960
Vibe together, especially.
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Together.
00:17:58.079 --> 00:17:58.400
Yeah.
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Yeah, and then that and like you have popped my world open.
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Nice.
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And we're just getting started.
00:18:04.799 --> 00:18:05.759
And we're just getting started.
00:18:05.839 --> 00:18:06.640
So that's two.
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Mm-hmm.
00:18:13.039 --> 00:18:16.079
Song number three is a callback.
00:18:16.240 --> 00:18:16.640
Uh-huh.
00:18:17.039 --> 00:18:22.559
So last year's song uh that was introduced to me.
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This song is from what, 2008?
00:18:24.559 --> 00:18:26.319
Yeah, from Lady Gaga's first album.
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From Lady Gaga's first album.
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The fame is it called?
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Um The Fame.
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The Fame?
00:18:31.920 --> 00:18:32.079
Okay.
00:18:32.160 --> 00:18:32.240
Yep.
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Lady Gaga's first album.
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The song is Summer Boy.
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Um I learned about this song of uh Reading the Atlantic or on the uh again, like consuming some kind of media.
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They were talking about the Song of the Summer last year, and they were like, it doesn't Song of the Summer doesn't have to be a song from this year.
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And so thank you, journalist, who blew my world open to think like, oh, it could be a song that we know.
00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:07.440
I think last year we had a bunch of songs from previous decades or years, and um, and this is one that has such staying power.
00:19:07.519 --> 00:19:08.079
Do you not agree?
00:19:08.319 --> 00:19:08.720
I totally agree.
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It's a good thing.
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Song drops some time to tell me about your crush on this song.
00:19:12.880 --> 00:19:13.839
My crush on this song.
00:19:14.079 --> 00:19:18.640
Okay, me, like every time I listen to it, I'm still early enough for me.
00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:22.640
I've heard it, I don't know, probably somewhere between eight and ten times now.
00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:27.440
Uh gotta be like two or three times last summer, and then six or seven times.
00:19:28.559 --> 00:19:30.720
Yes, so far in this song.
00:19:31.359 --> 00:19:35.119
So it's kind of an it's like an optimal phase for like really getting to know a song.
00:19:35.519 --> 00:19:35.759
Yeah.
00:19:35.920 --> 00:19:37.759
And so first it's just a banger.
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Is it uh impossible to resist getting down to this?
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Totally.
00:19:41.599 --> 00:19:41.759
Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, not necessarily from a danceability standpoint.
00:19:46.480 --> 00:19:50.960
It is it is danceable, um, but from a rocking out standpoint.
00:19:51.279 --> 00:19:51.599
Yes.
00:19:51.759 --> 00:19:52.079
Yeah.
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Um, because it's got the dry, it's got the guitar, that guitar riff.
00:19:56.480 --> 00:20:00.799
Um uh uh bum bum bum bum.
00:20:01.440 --> 00:20:10.799
Yeah, and then on the and that the last episode, dunno, dun, dun, dun, dun, and then, and then there's some accompanying sound where it goes like I don't think that's a guitar if it maybe it's a keyboard or maybe it's the guitar.
00:20:10.880 --> 00:20:14.160
I don't know what it is, but it's just like sort of vibrating sound.
00:20:15.359 --> 00:20:15.920
Irresistible.
00:20:16.640 --> 00:20:18.000
It's irresistible.
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It's totally irresistible.
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And then there's the the words are just so it's like, here's my boy toy.
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I'm just gonna use you for my pleasure.
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And then you're my summer boy, but you know, I'm gonna be with there's a whole thing about her martini while she's she she's gonna take off her glasses, they're gonna cover her green eyes, and she's gonna sip her martini while looking at other gu eyes.
00:20:42.319 --> 00:20:50.960
And like early in the song, she's talking about um don't be sad when the sun goes down, you wake up and I'm not around.
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I've got to go.
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Uh-oh.
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Uh-oh, uh-oh.
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And then later in the song, it's like, you've got to go.
00:20:58.160 --> 00:20:59.200
Uh uh-oh.
00:20:59.839 --> 00:21:01.279
So let's be clear.
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Let's be clear what's happening here.
00:21:03.599 --> 00:21:15.359
So so this is yeah, it um that it yes, so yes, for in terms of what I love about it, it's it's it's that it's a rocker, and then and then it's just such a the sentiment.
00:21:16.480 --> 00:21:19.119
Sentiment isn't the right term because it is not a sentimental song.
00:21:19.200 --> 00:21:23.039
It's it's completely unsentimental and unapologetic.
00:21:23.279 --> 00:21:28.720
It's like, you know, you're you're you're my boy toy for the summer.
00:21:29.359 --> 00:21:36.400
And it's like don't, yeah, unapologetic, and we'll still have the summer after.
00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:45.359
Yes, like don't, don't we'll still have the summer.
00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:48.640
Like, yeah, this is awesome, but we'll still have the summer.
00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:49.680
You'll get over it.
00:21:49.839 --> 00:21:50.000
Yeah.
00:21:50.160 --> 00:21:51.839
You'll find your next summer girl.
00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:52.240
Exactly.
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Your summer fling.
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Totally.
00:21:53.839 --> 00:21:54.000
Yes.
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Lady gaga.
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And right, like this is uh, I don't know if you would call that a sleep.
00:22:00.799 --> 00:22:09.039
Because I heard of Disco stick and um but I hadn't heard of that until I heard it through that reporting last summer.
00:22:09.119 --> 00:22:09.519
So it's a lot of people.
00:22:09.599 --> 00:22:13.920
Yeah, I mean poker face is probably the most famous song from this album.
00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:14.720
Yes.
00:22:14.880 --> 00:22:15.279
Yes.
00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:19.200
And um Fun Facts and Lore.
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Please.
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Gaga has cited Debbie Harry and Gwen Stefani as primary influences for her vocal performance on this song.
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I can hear it.
00:22:28.880 --> 00:22:29.839
I can definitely hear it.
00:22:30.079 --> 00:22:32.640
I also hear Madonna in there, even though that's not listed.
00:22:32.720 --> 00:22:33.359
I I don't know.
00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:34.319
Yeah, okay.
00:22:34.640 --> 00:22:36.079
I personally just my ear.
00:22:36.319 --> 00:22:42.640
It remains a fan favorite, deep cut, that was rarely performed live on her major stadium tours.
00:22:42.880 --> 00:22:46.720
And it's funny, for each of these, for each of these songs, Gemini offers a podcast angle.
00:22:46.960 --> 00:22:47.359
Okay, great.
00:22:47.680 --> 00:22:48.240
Okay for this one.
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Let's go.
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Talk about how debut albums often hide alternative genre directions that an artist chooses not to pursue as lead singles.
00:22:55.119 --> 00:22:58.960
Summer Boy shows a what if path for Gaga's early pop sound.
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Oh my God.
00:23:01.200 --> 00:23:01.839
What if?
00:23:03.519 --> 00:23:05.200
No, that's amazing, though.
00:23:05.519 --> 00:23:10.559
I love that the Gwen Stefani mentioned too, because I think of her as So Cal.
00:23:12.720 --> 00:23:18.960
Very um uh summery Southern California artist influence.
00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:24.079
And uh that that ties in with our summer mixture.
00:23:24.319 --> 00:23:24.480
It does.
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And you know what else does?
00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:38.079
Under production and musicality features snappy electric guitars, hand claps, and a buoyant bass line that pays direct homage to late 70s new wave and early 80s power bob.
00:23:38.640 --> 00:23:40.079
Okay, amazing.
00:23:40.559 --> 00:23:45.440
Yes, bum bum bum bum bum bum boom bum bum bum bum bum bum.
00:23:45.839 --> 00:23:46.720
And the hand claps.
00:23:46.880 --> 00:23:48.000
I forgot to mention the hand claps.
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Tell me about the hand claps where this d d d d d d is at that point.
00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:09.359
It it it's I don't I don't know I don't know what it is, but okay it is a it's an important feature in that song for me.
00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:19.039
Moving on, there's a tie from Summerboy to House Boy.
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We're getting more domestic.
00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:24.640
Bring the boy inside and clean my stuff.
00:24:24.720 --> 00:24:26.640
Yeah, bring the boy inside, right?
00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:33.039
So this is one of the five two sugars and your house, boy.
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The keys under the rug.
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Let yourself into my room so we can mess it up.
00:24:38.799 --> 00:24:39.920
And then he's gonna clean it up.
00:24:41.119 --> 00:24:42.799
Yeah, so he's gonna clean it up again.
00:24:43.279 --> 00:24:43.759
Something.
00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:46.400
Uh so this one goes up to you, Ed.
00:24:46.880 --> 00:24:51.440
I asked Ed the other day, I was like, I want to dedicate the song Houseboy to you.
00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:52.640
Is that okay?
00:24:52.799 --> 00:25:01.839
And he was like, I trust you to know if that is dignifying of me or not.
00:25:02.079 --> 00:25:05.599
And I was like, I don't know if that's the word I'd use.
00:25:05.839 --> 00:25:08.000
It is okay.
00:25:09.200 --> 00:25:10.799
And here's why.
00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:27.599
Because Ed post recovery, or at this stage in the recovery, has so stepped up his domestic houseboy game, which has been a huge uh relief to me.
00:25:27.839 --> 00:25:32.720
And I and I think we've talked a little bit about like, yeah, for sure.
00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:37.200
I've talked about like how we're like past the honeymoon, I'm like, I do more.
00:25:37.279 --> 00:25:43.440
I don't want to like be the one responsible for cooking and cleaning and you know, exclusively.
00:25:43.599 --> 00:25:44.640
Like, can we please?
00:25:44.960 --> 00:25:48.799
And Ed has uh heard and responded.
00:25:49.039 --> 00:25:55.680
And so this is it's a it's a tongue-in-cheek, tongue in tongue-in-cheek reference.
00:25:55.920 --> 00:25:59.279
Um but but thank you.
00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:19.599
Thank you, Ed, for hearing and responding and making me Thursday night frittadas and coffees with a little oat milk for my and your love um for prayer parts in the morning and doing the dishes and cleaning up and making the beds and yeah.
00:26:20.400 --> 00:26:27.759
For some for some reason, that had completely escaped me as one of the transformations that has taken place in your relationship.
00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:28.559
That's beautiful.
00:26:28.720 --> 00:26:28.880
Yeah.
00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:30.400
It's beautiful again.
00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:36.480
And also kind of fits into another theme from earlier episodes this season, just about what's it all for?
00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:41.519
All of the all of this, everything that you and Ed went through over these last few months.
00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:42.559
Right?
00:26:42.880 --> 00:26:44.240
So hallelujah.
00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:45.279
Yeah, right.
00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:46.799
What a beautiful thing.
00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:47.599
Yes.
00:26:48.160 --> 00:26:48.640
Yes, right.
00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:49.599
What's it all for?
00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:54.319
By which I think you're referring like even more now than ever ever.
00:26:54.799 --> 00:26:59.599
Like, not just back to pre-cancer levels of domestic exactly.
00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:01.599
This is new territory.
00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:03.119
Of your relationship.
00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:05.519
No, totally deepening of your relationship.
00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:06.160
Yes.
00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:13.440
And and uh it's a very Rowena way to pay tribute, dedicating the song to you're welcome.
00:27:14.160 --> 00:27:16.960
It's such a bop, though, and he loves house music.
00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:21.279
I forgot to mention it's Aluna, Wilsas, and Timbalands.
00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:21.759
Yes.
00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:24.319
So need to mention that.
00:27:24.480 --> 00:27:28.240
And um, again, it's a 2026 drop.
00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:30.880
Um, let's see, what did Dudlar say?
00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:33.279
Because he had some really Well, this was on the list of five songs.
00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:38.480
Yeah, this is on the list of five songs from um Karamanica.
00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:40.160
I'm probably saying your name wrong.
00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:43.119
And he said about Houseboy, let's see.
00:27:43.519 --> 00:27:51.759
Um this is some real classic piano house that calls all the way back to old Chicago.
00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:52.559
Chicago.
00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:53.519
Old Chicago.
00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:57.599
So Chicago is the birthplace of house music.
00:27:58.240 --> 00:28:02.000
And um, this is like a good play on words, right?
00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:04.640
House boy, house music, and the house music beat.
00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:09.519
I did note that and de and Ed loves pian the piano piece of that.
00:28:09.759 --> 00:28:14.400
Some are some of like, and and my courtship was around like finding danceable piano music.
00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:15.039
Great.
00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:16.240
Well, here's another one to add.
00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:17.119
Yeah.
00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:20.559
I didn't know also that uh well I didn't know much at all.
00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:23.519
I didn't know anything about these artists except heard of Timbaland.
00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:34.640
But uh Aluna launched the Noir Fever brand specifically to center black and queer voices in dance music, reclaiming the genres house and techno that originated in cities like Chicago and Detroit.
00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:36.000
Oh my god, I didn't know that.
00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:37.759
That makes you like it even more, don't it?
00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:38.400
Yes.
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:40.000
Thank you, Aluna.
00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:41.119
Yeah.
00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:42.160
Noir.
00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:43.519
Noir fever.
00:28:43.839 --> 00:28:44.319
Noir fever.
00:28:44.640 --> 00:28:46.319
I don't know what the oh noir fever records.
00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:46.720
That's what it is.
00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:47.759
The label is Noir Fever.
00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:49.680
Okay, that's amazing.
00:28:50.079 --> 00:28:51.440
Aluna, this is a bop.
00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:55.119
Um A Bop is a good thing.
00:28:55.519 --> 00:28:56.480
I have a prediction.
00:28:56.799 --> 00:28:57.119
Okay.
00:28:57.759 --> 00:29:01.599
The next song on the playlist is not one of the five that was listed.
00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:04.720
Songs you can't help but move to.
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:07.519
Are we ready to move on to number five?
00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:08.720
I'm ready to move on.
00:29:09.279 --> 00:29:12.720
This is the one I'm most curious about, just in terms of like how it ended up here.
00:29:13.039 --> 00:29:13.599
That's funny.
00:29:13.839 --> 00:29:14.160
Okay.
00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:18.799
So this song is called One Afternoon in Summer.
00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:21.519
It is by Luke Faulkner.
00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:22.079
Thank you.
00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:23.359
Luke Faulkner.
00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:25.599
It's from 2019.
00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:28.480
We'll put it in the watermeloncholy group.
00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:32.480
Very um, it's an instrumental.
00:29:32.960 --> 00:29:34.960
It's just piano, isn't it?
00:29:35.119 --> 00:29:36.079
It's just piano.
00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:38.559
Yes, I guess that is an instrument.
00:29:39.119 --> 00:29:41.440
What I was thinking, I was trying to think if there are other instruments in the piano.
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:42.799
No, it's such a great question.
00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:43.119
Right.
00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:47.200
I hadn't even tracked that it was just piano because it feels so cinematic to me.
00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:52.319
Yes, it's just piano, but there's a world that's being created.
00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:58.559
And I first heard this song when I was sitting on the curb across the street from one of my clients.
00:29:58.880 --> 00:30:10.880
My my very um challenging client who on that particular day was not willing to admit me into her home to spend time with her.
00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:15.440
So this is um a neighbor with living with dementia.
00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:18.880
Um who's been mentioned on one prior episode as well.
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:19.920
Yes, exactly.
00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:28.079
This is that neighbor and the one that I refer to as uh requiring me to be in a spiritual practice.
00:30:28.319 --> 00:30:28.960
Yes.
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:34.400
And the song came on during my spiritual practice.
00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:35.440
It came on where?
00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:37.440
It came on like the algorithm for the music.
00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:40.319
So you were listening to I was listening to music.
00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:41.759
I was listening to music.
00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:42.480
I'm not even sure.
00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:44.319
Living the algo around the show?
00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:45.519
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:46.880
Okay, exactly.
00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:52.319
So YouTube music fed me this song.
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:53.039
Wow.
00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:57.440
And it moved me.
00:30:57.920 --> 00:30:58.319
It's beautiful.
00:30:58.720 --> 00:31:00.000
It's a beautiful song.
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:01.200
Oh my god.
00:31:01.519 --> 00:31:10.640
And I think I was transported not only in that moment to it's a little bittersweet, right?
00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:14.400
I guess water melancholy feels like it encompasses the bittersweet.
00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:20.640
Because it is beautiful and it is slow and contemplative.
00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:24.720
It paints a picture, I think, in that what's it called?
00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:27.839
One summer in the afternoon, one afternoon in the summer.
00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:30.079
The title is One Afternoon in Summer.
00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:51.440
One afternoon in summer, um, which it was when I was sitting there, and it was late, late in the afternoon, and the light was changing, and it helped me be in that moment in a in a place of peace, in a place of acceptance, in a place of beauty.
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:58.720
And it also transported me back in time to my formative years dancing.
00:31:58.960 --> 00:32:15.039
Um, and this isn't like this isn't go-go dancing, which I have done most of my life, but this was sort of um more fine arts, concert dance, modern dance recitals, which this is like again, like the waltz, isn't it?
00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:15.839
It's a 3-4.
00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:17.519
Mm-hmm.
00:32:18.720 --> 00:32:21.119
Like listen, like in my brain right now, I feel like it's in 3-4.
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:22.880
Yeah, I think you're right.
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:28.720
I think it does change tempo, maybe at some point.
00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:31.279
Um, but I think you're right.
00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:36.240
I I just said that because I was thinking about how mud one might dance to it, and Waltz came to mind.
00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:38.160
So back to your Yes, great.
00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:40.480
That's that's an awesome observation.
00:32:40.640 --> 00:33:05.440
And yes, that's maybe why I was it it moved me in this um it transported me into thinking about my dance upbringing, um, dance training, dance performing, and like huge props and shout-outs to my mom for ushering me through a childhood of creativity and dance.
00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:06.720
I'm so grateful.
00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:21.759
And also to my teachers who introduced me to instrumental music, to classical music, to jazz, to all, so not just, you know, back then I was listening to the radio.
00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:39.200
It was the 80s and 70s and 80s, and you know, definitely loved pop music, but like got introduced to a lot of more um varieties, genres of music, um, music that you could create modern dances to.
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:50.559
And I I grew to really love and appreciate music that wasn't necessarily the kind of music my contemporaries were interested in or my peers were interested in.
00:33:50.720 --> 00:34:30.320
And so um I am I'm grateful that I could distill my feelings in this moment with my client, or that this music helped me feel connected to myself, feel connected to the moment, to that particular client, and to this podcast, because no left field to go from House Boy as I was putting together this playlist and it, you know, really wanting to create an arc, it was like like right angle or like beyond.
00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:41.440
Yes, that was or like slamming on the brakes, but yes, right, um getting us somewhere else.
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:45.760
Um to wit, podcast angle.
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:52.800
Why a curator chooses to place a calm acoustic piano piece right in the middle of an upbeat of upbeat pop and dance traps?
00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:57.199
Does it function as a palate cleanser or a deliberate shift in emotional mood?
00:34:57.440 --> 00:34:59.039
Yes, thank you.
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:00.639
It does, doesn't it?
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:02.320
Yeah, both of the above it.
00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:02.800
Yes.
00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:05.039
That's amazing.
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:05.760
Yes.
00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:07.199
But it was ironic.
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:16.079
So uh my first listen of your playlist, minus the mashup, because I couldn't get it on Taple Music, was with Joel.
00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:16.559
Okay.
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:17.519
Eight days ago.
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:19.360
No, one week ago was Friday.
00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:21.440
Um, driving back from San Francisco to our place.
00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:23.280
I was like, let's put on Romina's list.
00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:25.599
And I think both of Joel and I were scratching our heads a little bit.
00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:26.800
We're like, okay.
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:28.960
All right, it's pretty.
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:30.239
Nice.
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:31.920
Yes, yes.
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:33.119
Yes.
00:35:33.360 --> 00:35:36.639
And I I will say, like, it is very no left field.
00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:38.239
It's very no left field.
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:42.960
Yeah, I don't know that you will like it, listeners.
00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:54.159
You might feel a little bit like someone threw on the lights during the fun part of the dance and like but it might feel like a buzzkill.
00:35:56.159 --> 00:35:57.840
I'm okay with that.
00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:02.239
I I will say that does not describe my experience.
00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:03.119
Okay, again.
00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:09.119
Um it it it it's definitely a disruptor.
00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:10.000
Yeah.
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:13.199
It works for me because the song is so pretty.
00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:13.920
Awesome.
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:24.320
Um, I'll also say that were I to name this song, I might name it one afternoon in autumn.
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:26.000
Okay, amazing.
00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:31.519
Because I had the whole melancholy piece for me, that's like that's one of the things for me about summer.
00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:32.719
It's just fuck that.
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:33.199
Okay.
00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:35.440
I'm here to partake, goddammit.
00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:38.239
No melancholy for me, baby.
00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:40.159
Oh, okay.
00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:42.079
Okay, yes.
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:44.960
Resist, resist, yes.
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:49.360
And so far of my my playlist has been heading to your party.
00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:54.639
My my playlist has been the the soundtrack to your party.
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:58.320
And now you're like, oh, I might go back to the bar.
00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:03.039
So that's not a that's not a criticism at all.
00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:03.519
Yes.
00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:06.639
I think this was a bold move and it works for me.
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:18.079
It's kind of amazing that this song that you might hear on like, I don't know, an easy listening station is such a disruptor to this playlist, right?
00:37:18.719 --> 00:37:19.679
That's actually a really good point.
00:37:20.079 --> 00:37:24.960
The fact that it plays that role here says a lot about the rest of this playlist.
00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:25.360
Yes.
00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:27.119
Maybe we should we're ready to move on to the next one.
00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:43.360
We're going to Okay, so heads up that if you're listening to this with headphones, this will hurt you.
00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:44.559
What's happening next?
00:37:46.400 --> 00:37:49.519
It comes right around and it's so loud.
00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:55.760
And this is the song by Joung Cook called Standing Next to You.
00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:56.320
Oh.
00:37:57.679 --> 00:37:58.800
Awesome music movement.
00:37:59.920 --> 00:38:00.559
Which I watched.
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:01.199
You did?
00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:02.079
I watched it.
00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:04.000
Yes, I'm so happy you watched it.
00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:05.679
I only just watched it today.
00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:13.360
I was like, if I'm like, I'm like always bragging on my music video shit, but I haven't watched a lot of these music videos, but that one I was like, I have to listen to that one.
00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:16.880
I have to watch that one because he's the one of the from the BTS Army?
00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:18.159
He's from BTS.
00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:19.039
He's from BTS.
00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:20.719
Yeah, the army is the army.
00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:26.000
The fans, the fans, like are my older daughter, is she is of the army.
00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:28.320
Okay, but they were in the army?
00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:39.280
So what happened was because South Korea requires military service, they were going and they were going into the military service at different ages.
00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:41.760
I mean, at different times because they're different ages.
00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:42.159
Right.
00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:42.320
Okay.
00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:54.400
And so there was this, even though you only went for 18 months, I think it is, because it was staggered, BTS was not all together until this year, or maybe late 2025, when they came out with Adi Dong.
00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:54.960
Oh wow.
00:38:55.199 --> 00:38:58.639
And so 2.0, for example, on Adi Dang, that's like we're back.
00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:04.880
Oh, and so all the fanfare, so much of the fanfare in recent months around BTS is like they're all back together.
00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:10.159
And in the meantime, a lot of them branched out and did solo projects, including John Cook.
00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:10.800
Okay.
00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:12.320
Okay.
00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:15.360
Um, did you introduce me to this song?
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:16.079
I think I did.
00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:17.199
Yeah, I think you did some of this.
00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:19.840
I did, and Mariette, my older daughter, introduced me.
00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:30.400
Well, she she was cleaning the kitchen one day when she and Eddie were still living with us, and this song came on because she was she was rocking out while she was or she was playing her music while she was, or maybe she was baking.
00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:34.719
And this song came on, and I was just, what is happening here?
00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:38.960
It was so I could I I loved it at first listen.
00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:40.079
It was love at first listen.
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:41.679
It is love at first listen.
00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:44.000
It rocks so hard.
00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:46.960
It's in my impossible to resist getting down to this.
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:49.199
Um, the brass.
00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:49.840
Yeah.
00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:56.800
I loved that so much.
00:39:56.960 --> 00:40:00.719
This definitely goes out to Feife and Eddie and and Julius.
00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:02.000
This was Julius's.
00:40:03.039 --> 00:40:07.599
He had um two first place songs of my playlist.
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:08.639
This was one of them.
00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:09.519
Oh, good.
00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:12.159
Um, Julius loves this song so much.
00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:15.519
That the again, the bass line, the singing.
00:40:16.239 --> 00:40:20.239
Um, it's uh God, it's sort of throwback.
00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:22.480
It feels kind of throwback to me on some way.
00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:25.360
I thought Bruno Mars, it gives Bruno Mars to me a little bit.
00:40:26.159 --> 00:40:33.039
Um and um and yeah, just like it, it's it's like layered.
00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:36.960
It's it feels so layered with instruments and vocals.
00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:39.920
May I share a little bit about what I love about this song?
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:41.039
Please.
00:40:41.760 --> 00:40:47.440
I'm a sucker for a song with relentless forward momentum.
00:40:48.159 --> 00:40:54.559
And that's like like you feel you just you just feel like you know where the song is and it takes you somewhere new.
00:40:54.719 --> 00:40:54.880
Yes.
00:40:55.119 --> 00:40:57.760
And then you feel like it, and then it takes you somewhere new.
00:40:58.079 --> 00:41:02.559
And that's part of what I was trying to get at last week when we were talking about Can't Stop Feeling.
00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:03.199
Yeah.
00:41:03.360 --> 00:41:07.920
Um, and its non-standard, really unique musical structure.
00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:16.880
I feel like something analogous is happening here, but it's actually louder and more upbeat and energetic than Can't Stop the Feeling.
00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:19.599
Can't Stop the Feeling is is is immortalized.
00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:25.840
So this is not this is not in any way to be uh critical of Can't Stop the Feeling.
00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:28.960
That sits in a category on a pedestal on its own.
00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:36.239
So when I say it's when I'm making these comparisons, I might make it seem like I'm comparing Standing Next to You favorably to Can't Stop the Feeling.
00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:37.679
They're just there in different worlds for me.
00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:38.960
Different worlds for me.
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:45.440
But I think that's part of what drew me in, a big part of what drew me into this song was I didn't really know it was a little disorienting.
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:49.920
I didn't really know what was happening, and then it just kept taking me to these new places.
00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:52.320
Um and changing up the rhythms.
00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:53.119
Yes.
00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:57.519
Um that was a huge part of what I loved about it.
00:41:57.599 --> 00:41:59.119
And then there's there's the vocals.
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:02.800
I mean, John Cook is such an incredibly talented vocalist.
00:42:03.039 --> 00:42:03.280
Yes.
00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:06.480
And then there's the horn, the there's the the instrumentation.
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:16.400
Um, and this very much fits that song type of comes right in, does a bunch of stuff, and it's out.
00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:19.199
It does it, and there's no fan favorite done.
00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:27.760
Um we have arrived.
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:31.039
This song is in the category No Left Field.
00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:31.519
Yeah.
00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:31.920
Good.
00:42:35.039 --> 00:42:35.760
No left field.
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:37.360
This song is by ear.
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:37.840
Yeah.
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:40.559
To kids who met at Bard.
00:42:41.119 --> 00:42:41.519
Uh-huh.
00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:42.960
It's electronica.
00:42:43.119 --> 00:42:45.199
It's called Ne plus Ultra.
00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:47.119
Turns out it's Latin, not French.
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:47.519
Yes.
00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:48.960
So we have to pronounce the S.
00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:51.760
We get to we get to pronounce the S, Ne plus ultra.
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:54.559
Okay, ne plus Ultra.
00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:57.360
And it means beyond the beyond?
00:42:57.599 --> 00:43:07.679
Yeah, some uh no further beyond, historically inscribed on the pillars of Hercules at the Strait of Gibraltar to mark the edge of the known world, metaphorically meaning the pinnacle or ultimate point.
00:43:11.199 --> 00:43:13.039
I don't even know what to say there.
00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:14.559
Like How did you find this song?
00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:15.840
This was one of the five!
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:16.480
Oh my god.
00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:18.079
This was one of the that's what I mean!
00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:18.639
Right.
00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:21.119
Thank you, Karamonica.
00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:33.039
Um, who who says spasmodic, hard-angled, nonlinear, electro from one of the most fire-starting electronic music acts.
00:43:33.360 --> 00:43:38.320
Okay, I gotta I have to find more from ear because right?
00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:39.760
Holy shit.
00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:42.159
This song came on in Hard with Joel.
00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:42.480
Okay.
00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:43.840
Um boost goosebumps.
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:46.480
So like this song has completely fucked with my head.
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:47.360
Mmm.
00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:52.960
Um A good one for headphones.
00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:55.760
Yeah, just don't turn it too loud.
00:43:56.000 --> 00:43:56.159
Okay.
00:43:56.800 --> 00:43:58.159
Well, I'll I'll say what's really good.
00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:01.519
The J B L Party box 120.
00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:02.079
Okay.
00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:05.599
This was a gift from Eddie to me for my birthday.
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:06.400
To all of us.
00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:07.199
Thank you, Eddie.
00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:08.079
Thank you, Eddie.
00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:13.039
And I cranked it up there, and the the kitchen was rattling from the bass.
00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:15.039
Oh my goodness.
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:15.840
Oh amazing.
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:16.719
That's so cool.
00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:21.119
So I guess I'm I I feel like I've just sort of jumped in and cleaned this song to talk about.
00:44:21.519 --> 00:44:21.840
Okay.
00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:32.239
Um So first, there's that first like when you went and just smacks you with the bass.
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:35.840
And Joel and I, I think I was like, geez, geez, like out loud.
00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:38.960
Jeez, geez, and Joel's like, right, right, right.
00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:42.159
And so we're both like, what's going on here?
00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:45.760
And then later in the song, like doubles down and like goes like two octaves higher.
00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:47.440
It's not more than two octaves.
00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:55.440
I don't know how high, but it's it's not bass, but it's like this scream like electronic, like way up high, like and I was just I was like, oh my what?
00:44:55.519 --> 00:44:55.599
What?
00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:57.280
And Joel's like, right, right?
00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:00.880
All the way to the very end.
00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:01.440
Yes.
00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:04.159
It is committed to the bit.
00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:06.559
It's not even that long of a song, it's under three minutes.
00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:07.039
Okay.
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:09.519
But it feels like a lifetime.
00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:11.360
Gritty.
00:45:11.599 --> 00:45:13.360
Gritty is another word I would use.
00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:14.159
Yes.
00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:16.400
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:45:17.440 --> 00:45:21.679
And cannot not move to it.
00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:23.119
I know.
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:30.400
It's melodic in its gritty, hard-angled spasmodicity.
00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:31.519
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:45:31.599 --> 00:45:32.400
That's a great way to do it.
00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:37.840
It has a little vo I mean the the vocal juxtaposition, I would say.
00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:46.320
Like the the volume at which they're singing relative to the and speaking as well.
00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:50.880
About, I think one of the lyrics is one plus one equals one.
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:53.360
I didn't look at the lyrics at all.
00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:56.480
One of the lyrics is one plus one equals one.
00:45:57.199 --> 00:46:02.960
Um it's it's not so much about the lyrics, this one.
00:46:03.280 --> 00:46:10.320
Or at least that's one of the layers, but there's a lot of other stuff going on to hook you.
00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:10.880
Yeah.
00:46:11.119 --> 00:46:11.360
Right?
00:46:11.679 --> 00:46:12.719
Hook is right.
00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:18.639
There's the seagulls that turn into kind of almost like screaming human sound or cat, I don't know about cats.
00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:20.079
I think they're cat screeming.
00:46:20.800 --> 00:46:24.239
Because they sound kind of like seagulls, but then they sound like screaming humans.
00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:37.119
And then there's the whole, like um, for our any of our listeners who have seen the trailer for disclosure day or seen the movie itself, a big summer 2026 movie with Emily Blunt.
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:45.440
There's the scene where she's um she's a TV weather person and she starts vocalizing with this clicking sound.
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:46.880
Oh, yeah, I saw the trailer for that.
00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:48.159
Oh, yeah.
00:46:48.320 --> 00:46:48.960
Oh, amazing.
00:46:49.039 --> 00:46:49.760
Oh, creepy.
00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:50.239
Okay.
00:46:55.039 --> 00:46:56.639
This is part of the fucking with your head.
00:46:56.960 --> 00:46:57.519
Fuck it with your head.
00:46:57.599 --> 00:47:00.559
And another thing that the song does forward momentum.
00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:03.840
You think you know what's happening, and then it takes you somewhere new.
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:10.159
It's like like maybe one or two bars, it'll do something, and then right on to the next thing, and then right on to the next thing, and then right on to the next thing.
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:12.639
And each thing is completely different from what was just happening.
00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:13.360
Yes.
00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:15.280
You mentioned David Lynch stuck in the room.
00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:15.679
Yes.
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:16.079
Totally.
00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:17.440
I know you love David Lynch.
00:47:17.519 --> 00:47:20.239
We love David Lynch together, and I and that made me think about it.
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:20.880
Absolutely.
00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:30.320
Yeah, I mean, I'm just looking at the lyrics: one plus one equals one, to resent what makes you stuck, to resent what makes you stuck, though I owe it all to luck, though I owe it all to luck.
00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:31.280
Those are the lyrics?
00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:32.639
The wrong direction.
00:47:33.119 --> 00:47:33.440
Yeah.
00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:36.079
The wrong direction.
00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:39.440
Okay, Gemini's got a good description here of the production and musicality.
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:40.320
Oh, let's hear it.
00:47:40.559 --> 00:47:47.679
Blends hushed, intimate vocal delivery with harsh, glitching electronic breakdowns and unexpected meter shifts.
00:47:48.719 --> 00:47:49.119
Yeah.
00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:51.039
And unexpected a lot of other stuff, too.
00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:51.760
Yeah.
00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:55.519
Yeah.
00:47:56.960 --> 00:47:57.519
Yeah.
00:47:57.840 --> 00:48:01.840
Thank you for introducing this song to my life.
00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:03.760
My pleasure.
00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:04.960
My pleasure.
00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:07.039
I mean, again, it was faded.
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:11.440
Karamonica got me five for one.
00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:12.960
Um.
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:19.920
And of the five, this might be my favorite.
00:48:20.559 --> 00:48:21.679
It might be my favorite.
00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:25.119
It's so um penetrating.
00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:56.000
They're all they all, yes, all five had, you know, hooks, but this was like the strangeness pill, which is a reference to uh one time I was art modeling, and there was this brilliant student who could like represent realism so perfectly, and the teacher's critique was yeah, that's brilliant, but you need a strangeness pill.
00:48:56.159 --> 00:48:57.840
It needs a strangeness pill.
00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:00.239
It was too perfect.
00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:01.679
Like Dolly.
00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:08.079
I'm not saying perfect like Dolly, but I'm thinking about like Salvador Dolly could represent stuff, but it was always freaking out.
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:09.920
Yes, strange piece.
00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:11.199
Yes, yes, yes.
00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:12.079
Kind of surreal.
00:49:12.480 --> 00:49:14.559
And that's like embracing imperfection.
00:49:14.719 --> 00:49:19.199
Maybe that's because it's like, what what why would we be interested if it's so perfect, right?
00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:21.360
Like these whatever aphorisms.
00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:36.480
And you're reminding me also of another thing that I that I think really pulled me into this song is Um the beat starts and you're hit over the head with that bass.
00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:41.360
Like I'll speak in like from when I was hit over the head with that bass, I was like, How did we get here?
00:49:41.679 --> 00:49:42.159
Interesting.
00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:46.159
Like where like I found myself disoriented, but how did I get here?
00:49:46.800 --> 00:49:55.440
And that that's another experience that I love having, whether it's you know, in a in a movie, I like it's one of the things that I love about movies or a TV show.
00:49:55.679 --> 00:49:57.199
I love that about a song too.
00:49:57.360 --> 00:50:00.960
So when I feel disoriented and it's like, how did I get here?
00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:10.559
One other note on this song from me is I did a ranking of top five degree of mind-blown from your list.
00:50:11.119 --> 00:50:12.000
And this is number one.
00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:13.360
That's awesome.
00:50:13.599 --> 00:50:13.840
Yeah.
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:15.440
I love it.
00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:20.159
Yay! Okay, I'm gonna join you up there.
00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:23.760
Number one most mind-blowing song on my playlist is this one.
00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:32.000
And by the way, um, we haven't yet talked about any of the others on this list except for number four.
00:50:32.400 --> 00:50:36.639
So I'm just gonna tell you number four on this list is actually one afternoon in summer.
00:50:36.800 --> 00:50:38.880
Not because the song itself blew my mind.
00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:43.599
Okay, but because its presence and also position in the list blew my mind.
00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:44.880
Okay, that's amazing.
00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:46.960
Yes, you have been warned.
00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:49.119
That's so awesome, Jazz.
00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:49.920
I love that.
00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:50.960
Thank you.
00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:51.760
Yeah.
00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:41.199
Introduced me this to this song this summer.
00:51:41.440 --> 00:51:41.840
Really?
00:51:42.559 --> 00:51:43.599
It's from twenty sixteen.
00:51:43.840 --> 00:51:44.000
Yes.
00:51:44.159 --> 00:51:44.880
So it's ten years old.
00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:46.400
So it's ten years old.
00:51:47.119 --> 00:51:56.800
Um I don't know what maybe we were cleaning the house together, and I was like, what is this?
00:51:57.119 --> 00:52:00.880
And it's from an album called A Moon Shaped Pool.
00:52:01.599 --> 00:52:04.320
Not a Radiohead album I know at all.
00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:10.320
So uh knocking myself off the podium of greatest radiohead fan.
00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:16.960
Well, I think you were probably more of a fan from their more of their heyday, which is quite uh quite a bit earlier, right?
00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:17.840
Yes.
00:52:18.320 --> 00:52:21.440
So Burn the Witch.
00:52:24.079 --> 00:52:26.000
For I would say like Momentum.
00:52:26.400 --> 00:52:26.719
Yes.
00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:27.119
Right?
00:52:27.280 --> 00:52:28.559
Relentless momentum.
00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:29.199
Yes.
00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:33.519
I think this song, isn't this one of the ones that comes in and does its business?
00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:36.400
Interesting.
00:52:37.039 --> 00:52:42.800
I hadn't thought of it that way, but now that you say it, I think it does.
00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:44.800
Also very cinematic.
00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:47.280
There's a lot of strings.
00:52:48.079 --> 00:52:52.079
Do you know something special about the playing technique?
00:52:52.639 --> 00:52:52.880
No.
00:52:53.679 --> 00:52:54.320
Get this.
00:52:56.400 --> 00:52:57.360
Where is it here?
00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:11.360
Instead of traditional electric guitars, the song's driving rhythm comes from a full string section playing colegno, striking the strings with the wood of the bow.
00:53:11.599 --> 00:53:12.559
Oh, come on.
00:53:13.119 --> 00:53:16.480
Arranged by multi-instrumentalist Johnny Greenwood.
00:53:17.440 --> 00:53:19.760
It's there's something different about the strings.
00:53:19.840 --> 00:53:20.800
That's what it is.
00:53:21.199 --> 00:53:24.559
I've never heard of striking the strings with the wood of the bow.
00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:25.760
Talking about no left feel.
00:53:26.480 --> 00:53:27.039
Yes.
00:53:27.599 --> 00:53:29.679
Somebody had that idea and they tried it out.
00:53:29.840 --> 00:53:36.000
And there are some, it's it seems pretty clear to me anyway, to my ear, that there are some straight-up strings also in this song.
00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:36.559
Okay.
00:53:36.719 --> 00:53:40.159
But most of it, it sounds a little different.
00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:41.599
More than a little different.
00:53:41.840 --> 00:53:43.440
Go back and the next time you listen to it.
00:53:44.079 --> 00:53:44.960
I'm very excited about it.
00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:46.239
I think I'll pick up on that.
00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:46.800
Okay.
00:53:48.079 --> 00:53:57.679
Uh most recent Ed and I the the show that Ed and I are sort of binging right now is Love.
00:53:57.840 --> 00:54:01.039
I've talked to you and Clett about needing to watch this show.
00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:02.880
It's streaming on Netflix.
00:54:03.119 --> 00:54:04.800
It's a Jed Apito.
00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:06.159
Jed Apitau.
00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:06.880
Yes.
00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:08.159
Production.
00:54:08.480 --> 00:54:15.280
And there's a show in the show called Wichita.
00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:17.519
W-I-T-C-H.
00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:20.719
It's about witches in Wichita.
00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:26.000
So that's another layer that got me excited about Earn the Witch.
00:54:26.320 --> 00:54:29.360
And you've got your whole pagan rituals thing too.
00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:31.679
Yeah, the pagan rituals.
00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:49.280
Um energetically, like in trying to get my enthusiasm up for summer, like the world feels like a dumpster fire.
00:54:50.400 --> 00:55:01.039
And there was a way that I felt maybe a little bit earlier in the summer, especially, like burn it all down.
00:55:01.519 --> 00:55:05.599
Like actually, the world is kind of Europe's on fire or has been.
00:55:05.760 --> 00:55:07.440
France and Spain have been on fire.
00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:09.199
There's a lot of fires in Oregon.
00:55:09.360 --> 00:55:10.639
Thank God we've been spared.
00:55:10.719 --> 00:55:17.679
Or I mean, I don't I don't mean to say like, good on us, we're not suffering right now, but I am We're lucky.
00:55:17.920 --> 00:55:18.320
Yes.
00:55:18.559 --> 00:55:30.559
We're very fortunate that we're here in on the West Coast in San Francisco in the Bay Area, not experiencing wildfire, um, the impact of wildfire.
00:55:30.719 --> 00:55:35.440
Um, but it's yeah, it's summer and things are on fire.
00:55:35.679 --> 00:55:49.840
And this is at a moment of climate denial and a lot of returning to fossil fuels, and we're bombing Iran and we're still bombing Gaza, and we're like, um there's a there's explosive diarrhea.
00:55:50.239 --> 00:55:51.280
I'm sorry.
00:55:51.599 --> 00:55:56.559
It's there's a lot, there's a lot of it's very intense.
00:55:56.960 --> 00:55:58.559
It's very intense.
00:55:58.880 --> 00:56:04.159
Um so I think that there was some I felt it it resonated.
00:56:04.320 --> 00:56:22.960
I was relating to the intensity of this song, and um and the the propulsiveness of it felt therapeutic, felt a little bit cathartic to me, like leaning into that.
00:56:23.199 --> 00:56:27.039
I don't know what what what has your emotional experience been of the song?
00:56:27.679 --> 00:56:30.480
It's taken me a while to like it, but I really like it now.
00:56:30.719 --> 00:56:31.920
Oh, interesting.
00:56:32.159 --> 00:56:41.199
Yeah, and I think for me, uh the the the barrier to me was it took me a while to really to feel the shape of the song.
00:56:41.440 --> 00:56:41.760
Okay.
00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:46.159
Because it's it doesn't have anything like a standard progression.
00:56:46.400 --> 00:56:52.480
Um yeah, it's a completely different type of song structure, unfamiliar to me.
00:56:52.719 --> 00:56:53.039
Okay.
00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:58.239
Um and so it took me a while to, I think that's part of what it took me a while to get into it.
00:56:58.400 --> 00:57:04.719
But the more I've listened to it, the more it's just sort of seeping in to me.
00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:14.719
Um and I think yeah, I guess, I guess there's at the start it just sounded like I thought it was, I thought it was actually like guitar, as it turns out it's not.
00:57:14.800 --> 00:57:18.000
It's the it's the string hitting the strings with a piece of wood.
00:57:18.559 --> 00:57:18.960
Exactly.
00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:20.880
And it's like, okay, that's not that interesting.
00:57:21.039 --> 00:57:36.880
But then he then when he when he gets into, I guess, what you call the chorus, the two.
00:57:37.679 --> 00:57:43.119
Yeah, it it's like, oh okay, yeah, take me there, take me there, right?
00:57:43.280 --> 00:57:44.639
This haunting.
00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:51.039
Yeah, I mean, and just really, really um so how do I put words to this?
00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:52.400
How do I put words to the experience?
00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:54.400
Haunting is definitely a word that comes to mind.
00:57:55.039 --> 00:57:57.599
Propulsive comes to mind.
00:57:58.239 --> 00:58:01.519
Um dark.
00:58:02.719 --> 00:58:05.679
That's what Colette said when when it ended, she's like dark.
00:58:06.960 --> 00:58:15.039
Uh and I think the uniqueness of the uniqueness also.
00:58:15.119 --> 00:58:16.880
I mean, like it's totally original.
00:58:17.360 --> 00:58:18.559
Nothing else, nothing else like it.
00:58:18.639 --> 00:58:22.079
So those are the things that I have come to really appreciate about this song.
00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:33.920
And I think it's it's also a fairly common experience that I've had with different art forms, which is you know, sometimes you just don't like something.
00:58:34.079 --> 00:58:36.559
And you might try it a bunch of times and you still don't like it.
00:58:38.159 --> 00:58:43.760
If you stick with it and then you end up liking it, it's deeper and it lasts longer.
00:58:43.920 --> 00:58:50.960
So I'm actually really excited for my future with this song, because I think it's gonna it's gonna really it's gonna last with me.
00:58:51.360 --> 00:58:59.760
That's making me so happy that you that I put you up to listening to this song in the first place.
00:59:01.119 --> 00:59:05.119
She said that with a finger wag as soon as you stuck with it.
00:59:05.760 --> 00:59:07.039
You stuck with it.
00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:07.679
Mm-hmm.
00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:08.239
Mm-hmm.
00:59:08.719 --> 00:59:09.360
For me.
00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:11.679
And for you, but for us.
00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:12.239
Totally.
00:59:12.480 --> 00:59:19.039
No, I have I have tremendous trust in you, which you've, you know, earned over the years.
00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:21.280
So and it's right there in the middle of what am I gonna do?
00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:21.679
Skip it?
00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:22.639
I'm not gonna skip it.
00:59:22.960 --> 00:59:26.559
No, but you could imagine sort of like, I didn't really like that one.
00:59:26.719 --> 00:59:28.239
You don't have to like them all, right?
00:59:28.400 --> 00:59:29.519
Like you don't have to like them all.
00:59:29.840 --> 00:59:31.199
But but this one I really, really do.
00:59:31.360 --> 00:59:33.440
It's number two on my mind-blown list.
00:59:33.760 --> 00:59:35.440
But less ultra.
00:59:35.840 --> 00:59:36.079
Yeah.
00:59:36.320 --> 00:59:38.639
Um and there's another Did I just interrupt you?
00:59:38.719 --> 00:59:39.760
Because it sounded like you were going somewhere.
00:59:40.000 --> 00:59:40.400
No, go ahead.
00:59:40.480 --> 00:59:40.960
I'll come back.
00:59:41.280 --> 00:59:46.480
Because I don't know, there's a little super interesting um bit about the history of this song.
00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:49.519
Radiohead worked on this song for 16 years.
00:59:49.679 --> 00:59:50.400
Did you know that?
00:59:50.719 --> 00:59:51.039
No.
00:59:51.440 --> 00:59:54.639
They first attempted it during the 2000 Kid A sessions.
00:59:54.960 --> 00:59:56.559
Okay, Kid A is my album.
00:59:56.639 --> 00:59:56.880
Exactly.
00:59:57.039 --> 00:59:57.119
Right.
00:59:57.360 --> 00:59:59.840
Yeah, when I asked for a Radiohead album to listen to, you gave me Kid A.
01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:00.239
Okay.
01:00:00.719 --> 01:00:03.199
Then again for In Rainbows, 2007.
01:00:03.599 --> 01:00:03.840
Okay.
01:00:04.480 --> 01:00:09.119
And The King of Limbs, 2011, before finally completing it in 2016.
01:00:09.360 --> 01:00:09.840
Oh wow.
01:00:10.159 --> 01:00:12.320
So I don't know what that means to attempt a song.
01:00:12.639 --> 01:00:15.119
They had been using the s bow part.
01:00:15.199 --> 01:00:17.280
They'd been using dumb joking.
01:00:17.679 --> 01:00:19.280
And then finally they were like, FLIM it!
01:00:19.840 --> 01:00:27.280
But one of the one of the podcast angles here is the artistry of perfectionism, how a band can sit on a musical idea for nearly two decades.
01:00:27.679 --> 01:00:31.119
Two decades until finding the right arrangement to bring it to life.
01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:32.639
Are you guys listening to that?
01:00:32.800 --> 01:00:34.559
Just like that just speaks to me.
01:00:34.719 --> 01:00:37.199
That's like I'm having goosebumps for that.
01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:58.480
Like just extend that into your own life with whatever you've been sitting on and picking up and dusting off and putting back and picking up and dusting off and thinking it's a dud, and then being like, ah, maybe there's something here, and finally nailing the right arrangement for that moment to press it and put it out in the world.
01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:00.719
Which actually has made me enjoy it more.
01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:01.119
Yes.
01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:05.360
Just knowing that knowing that exactly they didn't just come up with this.
01:01:05.440 --> 01:01:07.760
Like this is crafted.
01:01:08.239 --> 01:01:11.519
That's thrilling to learn.
01:01:11.679 --> 01:01:12.079
Thank you.
01:01:12.239 --> 01:01:27.519
And one of the gifts of making this playlist for you is all this new insight that you're giving me about things that I liked for other or similar reasons, but couldn't go that deep with.
01:01:27.679 --> 01:01:30.719
And now you're blowing my mind.
01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:35.360
Also, the lyric, this is a low-flying panic attack.
01:01:35.599 --> 01:01:36.559
I knew you would love that lyric.
01:01:36.800 --> 01:01:37.760
I love that lyric.
01:01:37.920 --> 01:02:05.440
Do you picture a witch kind of like skirting the sidewalk, kind of just like a little bit like to like, yes, a witch flying on her broom, which by the way, so the client that won't have me enter her home many times, or has so one of my shticks is to show up as the not the gardener, because they have a gardener, and she probably knows that I'm not the gardener.
01:02:05.599 --> 01:02:12.960
I wouldn't want her to expect me to be the gardener, so I've said I'm the assistant or associate gardener, and I bring my own broom.
01:02:13.920 --> 01:02:20.159
And they joke when I'm leaving, like, well, fly down home now.
01:02:20.320 --> 01:02:23.679
You've got your broom, and they live at the top of the hill, and I live at the bottom.
01:02:23.840 --> 01:02:28.320
So now I just go to sitting like, Yep, I'll be flying over to Laura's park to head home now.
01:02:28.559 --> 01:02:29.599
I'm gonna low flying phones.
01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:32.639
I've been having a low flying attack.
01:02:33.039 --> 01:02:35.119
Yes, all the way home.
01:02:36.800 --> 01:02:44.880
One thing I like about how that when that line shows up in the song is it's right when you're about to get into the chorus, if we're gonna call it that.
01:02:45.199 --> 01:02:45.599
Yes.
01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:46.320
Yeah.
01:02:46.639 --> 01:02:47.280
Yes.
01:02:48.320 --> 01:02:51.920
Low flying panic attack.
01:02:53.920 --> 01:03:02.639
Um and you know, Ed introduced me to this song, and I don't think Ed would mind me saying he's been having low-flying panic attacks.
01:03:02.800 --> 01:03:07.519
Again, now that cancer has sort of sorted itself out, the panic attacks have come back a little bit.
01:03:07.599 --> 01:03:08.559
He's writing about them.
01:03:08.719 --> 01:03:10.400
He's he's managing.
01:03:10.639 --> 01:03:11.840
But um, yeah.
01:03:12.159 --> 01:03:13.280
Love you, Ed.
01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:19.440
Love you, and and Ed's commitment to music, and music is healing, music is medicine.
01:03:19.519 --> 01:03:20.320
So it is.
01:03:20.400 --> 01:03:24.800
Let's let's maybe you should keep one afternoon in summer on repeat.
01:03:26.480 --> 01:03:27.519
Keep those panic attacks.
01:03:28.159 --> 01:03:30.159
You can't have a panic attack if you're listening to that song.
01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:30.960
No, you know.
01:03:31.679 --> 01:03:37.599
Because we've come from there to your number one most mind-blowing song, Nepuse Ultra.
01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:39.199
And then this Burn the Witch.
01:03:39.360 --> 01:03:40.559
Yes, like how I did that.
01:03:41.199 --> 01:03:41.519
Back to back.
01:03:41.760 --> 01:03:42.880
Are they back to they're back to back?
01:03:43.119 --> 01:03:43.760
They are back to that.
01:03:43.920 --> 01:03:58.239
Yeah, that was that was that's part of the like artistry, me crafting the mixtape in the way where you're having that experience of like, oh, we're back here and we're going a little strangeness pool.
01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:04.079
Silly love songs.
01:04:04.559 --> 01:04:07.280
Delightful surprise to find this in the playlist.
01:04:09.039 --> 01:04:09.920
I had to.
01:04:10.559 --> 01:04:14.159
So why is silly love songs on the playlist?
01:04:14.480 --> 01:04:16.239
Why are you asking me it's your playlist?
01:04:17.840 --> 01:04:19.679
It's your love song.
01:04:20.960 --> 01:04:26.639
So Jason uh mentioned this on episode.
01:04:28.480 --> 01:04:31.679
Whichever one it was an inflatable languorous flimming.
01:04:32.079 --> 01:04:32.559
Oh yeah.
01:04:32.800 --> 01:04:34.960
Yeah, this was where it so it was okay.
01:04:35.039 --> 01:04:36.000
I'll please.
01:04:36.639 --> 01:04:53.679
So in that episode, which was our summer music episode from 2025, released in 2026, I declared more than a year out from my daughter's wedding, that we um six of us were gonna get together and perform this song at the wedding.
01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:56.480
And which is two weeks from tomorrow.
01:04:57.440 --> 01:04:58.079
Don't say that.
01:04:58.320 --> 01:04:58.880
I'm sorry.
01:04:59.440 --> 01:04:59.920
Yes.
01:05:01.760 --> 01:05:02.239
Yeah.
01:05:03.519 --> 01:05:05.360
We're gonna rehearse later tonight.
01:05:05.679 --> 01:05:06.559
It's gonna be so good.
01:05:06.719 --> 01:05:07.360
It's gonna be so good.
01:05:07.440 --> 01:05:08.159
It's gonna be so good.
01:05:08.239 --> 01:05:13.920
So um the song's been much more than in my head now for weeks.
01:05:14.239 --> 01:05:22.559
Because what happened was we we um decided we were gonna release that episode from last summer, and I was like, oh right, I declared this on the pod.
01:05:22.960 --> 01:05:24.800
It's time to actually start making it happen.
01:05:24.960 --> 01:05:28.159
And then you came on as co-director, and things really started moving.
01:05:28.880 --> 01:05:30.960
Um and so we're gonna sing it.
01:05:31.119 --> 01:05:37.039
And for me anyway, as you know, this was the first song that I can remember falling in love with.
01:05:37.119 --> 01:05:38.719
I was eight, so it's fifty years ago.
01:05:39.119 --> 01:05:40.639
Paul McCartney and Wings.
01:05:40.960 --> 01:05:41.280
Mm-hmm.
01:05:41.679 --> 01:05:43.119
Fifty years ago.
01:05:43.440 --> 01:05:46.239
Half of a century, right?
01:05:46.559 --> 01:05:50.559
Um, this song came out, and I just I just remember loving this song.
01:05:50.719 --> 01:05:52.320
I just loved this song.
01:05:52.480 --> 01:05:55.360
I fell in love with this silly love song.
01:05:56.000 --> 01:05:58.719
And uh fun fact on lore, which I didn't know about.
01:06:00.320 --> 01:06:11.840
McCartney wrote the song as a direct tongue-in-cheek response to music critics and former bandmate John Lennon, who accused him of writing lightweight, overly sentimental love songs.
01:06:12.079 --> 01:06:17.840
His answer was to write a song called Silly Love Songs and take it straight to number one on the Billboard Pot Hundred.
01:06:19.119 --> 01:06:19.760
Yes, Paul.
01:06:20.880 --> 01:06:21.360
Sir Paul.
01:06:21.599 --> 01:06:23.039
With whom I share a birthday, by the way.
01:06:23.360 --> 01:06:23.760
You're kidding.
01:06:24.239 --> 01:06:27.280
Mariette's birthday is uh John Lennon's birthday.
01:06:28.559 --> 01:06:30.480
That's those are very fun facts.
01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:31.679
That's incredible.
01:06:32.239 --> 01:06:36.239
Yeah, so 1976, your little eight-year-old self-eight-year-old self.
01:06:36.480 --> 01:06:37.599
What heard it on the radio.
01:06:37.920 --> 01:06:38.559
Heard it on the radio.
01:06:38.719 --> 01:06:40.079
KGMY, probably.
01:06:40.239 --> 01:06:46.800
That was the radio station, AM radio station in Missoula that I was listening to when I was eight years old.
01:06:47.360 --> 01:06:48.639
And you're gonna sing it.
01:06:49.280 --> 01:06:56.800
Jason's gonna sing the sort of lead vocal, and the rest of us are gonna harmonize and sing the beautiful backup parts.
01:06:56.880 --> 01:06:58.719
It's layered.
01:06:59.360 --> 01:07:04.239
Just layered the round almost like a round, but it's not around because we're not singing the same things.
01:07:05.039 --> 01:07:06.639
Yeah, it is almost like a round.
01:07:06.880 --> 01:07:07.360
Yeah.
01:07:07.679 --> 01:07:08.800
Well, thank you.
01:07:09.119 --> 01:07:18.800
You uh Jason, you have done so much heavy lifting on creating this kind of spreadsheet for us to learn our parts.
01:07:18.960 --> 01:07:23.039
You've learned garage band ways of putting the harmonies in.
01:07:23.119 --> 01:07:24.559
You downloaded a whole orchestra.
01:07:26.320 --> 01:07:27.119
A whole orchestra.
01:07:27.199 --> 01:07:32.559
So you've got better bassoon sounds, better clarinet sounds.
01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:35.679
I think it's yeah, oboe.
01:07:35.840 --> 01:07:38.880
I the I think what we have in there now is the trumpet.
01:07:39.280 --> 01:07:40.400
Trumpet sounds.
01:07:40.559 --> 01:07:41.199
Yes.
01:07:41.920 --> 01:07:50.960
It's been a a beautiful journey and it's gonna culminate in such a fun gift to surprise.
01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:51.519
Yes.
01:07:51.760 --> 01:07:54.559
Unless unless she's listening to this pod, but she's probably not.
01:07:54.880 --> 01:07:55.840
She's got other things going on.
01:07:56.239 --> 01:07:57.599
A couple other things going on right now.
01:07:57.679 --> 01:07:57.840
Yeah.
01:07:57.920 --> 01:07:58.079
Yeah.
01:07:58.239 --> 01:07:58.559
Yeah.
01:07:58.800 --> 01:07:59.039
Yeah.
01:07:59.280 --> 01:08:01.199
Well, I decided to throw it in this list though.
01:08:01.440 --> 01:08:04.159
It's so evocative of summer 2026.
01:08:04.400 --> 01:08:04.559
Yeah.
01:08:04.719 --> 01:08:06.320
It's gotta be on my mixtape.
01:08:06.639 --> 01:08:07.039
Perfect.
01:08:07.199 --> 01:08:07.840
Yes.
01:08:08.159 --> 01:08:08.480
Great.
01:08:08.639 --> 01:08:13.519
And it feels um yeah, uh like your road trip.
01:08:14.079 --> 01:08:24.800
We had a little road trip from your house to the trailhead where we practiced.
01:08:25.039 --> 01:08:26.399
This is on the solstice.
01:08:26.800 --> 01:08:29.359
On the summer solstice, for God's sake.
01:08:29.520 --> 01:08:29.840
Uh-huh.
01:08:30.319 --> 01:08:37.760
So that, you know, will be lodged in my memory in such a lovely way.
01:08:37.840 --> 01:08:38.560
It was sunny.
01:08:38.640 --> 01:08:42.399
It was such a gorgeous hike that we did there.
01:08:42.720 --> 01:08:46.800
And um Redwood Regional Park for you, Bay Area folks.
01:08:47.039 --> 01:08:48.000
In Oakland.
01:08:48.159 --> 01:08:49.680
Yeah, in Oakland Hills.
01:08:50.159 --> 01:08:50.800
Yeah.
01:08:51.039 --> 01:08:52.239
So, so yeah.
01:08:52.640 --> 01:08:56.880
Well, gratitude to you for being so bought in.
01:08:58.239 --> 01:09:00.159
And you have done a lot of heavy lifting too.
01:09:00.239 --> 01:09:08.159
You've gone like sent like you I've given assignments and you have just done like not only like star pupil who's also become a teacher.
01:09:08.479 --> 01:09:09.840
Yeah, so fun.
01:09:10.399 --> 01:09:20.399
I love I love uh getting to use a little I so I have a bit of a musical background and I don't get to use it very often.
01:09:20.880 --> 01:09:21.600
More more than a bit.
01:09:21.840 --> 01:09:23.680
It's really nice to get to do that with you.
01:09:23.760 --> 01:09:24.079
Yeah, yeah.
01:09:24.319 --> 01:09:26.640
I'm really looking forward to our rehearsal later today.
01:09:27.359 --> 01:09:32.239
So I actually think that song comes really nicely after Burn the Witch.
01:09:32.399 --> 01:09:37.680
Like there's there's some kind of I don't know how mechanical beginning to to silly love songs.
01:09:38.720 --> 01:09:45.680
Oh, you've got before you get into the like lightweight, whatever John Lennon called it, right?
01:09:45.840 --> 01:09:46.079
Yeah.
01:09:46.239 --> 01:09:50.479
It doesn't, it's not like a complete right angle.
01:09:50.640 --> 01:09:50.800
Yeah.
01:09:51.119 --> 01:09:55.439
And I was really excited about the placement of the song in the mixtape.
01:09:55.760 --> 01:09:56.000
Brilliant.
01:09:56.159 --> 01:09:57.600
So yay for me.
01:10:02.479 --> 01:10:06.239
Then we get to the next song, which is from 2026.
01:10:06.640 --> 01:10:09.439
I found this maybe on my own.
01:10:09.920 --> 01:10:10.399
Last month.
01:10:10.800 --> 01:10:11.520
Last month?
01:10:11.760 --> 01:10:13.520
June 2026 is when it came out.
01:10:13.600 --> 01:10:16.479
So it's this is hot off, still hot off the presses, this song.
01:10:16.800 --> 01:10:19.760
How did I mean did I hear it on the radio?
01:10:19.920 --> 01:10:22.079
I don't think so because this isn't the song.
01:10:22.319 --> 01:10:27.119
So this is Olivia Rodrigo and Robert Smith from The Cure.
01:10:27.439 --> 01:10:29.520
A very no-left field matchup here.
01:10:29.840 --> 01:10:31.039
Intergenerational.
01:10:31.199 --> 01:10:31.600
Uh-huh.
01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:38.560
Hats off to both of them for doing something amazing and brave, right?
01:10:38.720 --> 01:10:41.840
And just in terms of like putting their talents together.
01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:43.840
I love intergenerational stuff.
01:10:43.920 --> 01:10:47.119
Um, Lady Gaga and Tony Bennett, for example.
01:10:47.439 --> 01:10:56.399
Um and I let's see, the album is called, gosh, it's it's You seem pretty sad for a girl so in love.
01:10:56.800 --> 01:10:57.359
Thank you.
01:10:57.600 --> 01:11:00.800
So it's it's in the water melancholy camp.
01:11:00.960 --> 01:11:01.520
Thanks so much.
01:11:01.840 --> 01:11:03.439
Water melancholy camp.
01:11:03.920 --> 01:11:10.640
Um, and oh my gosh, there's so much I love about this song.
01:11:11.439 --> 01:11:16.800
I love okay, so what's wrong with me is you.
01:11:17.199 --> 01:11:18.800
What did I do to you, Rolina?
01:11:19.199 --> 01:11:24.159
This is this is I think your what's wrong with me is the lyric.
01:11:24.399 --> 01:11:26.079
I think your what's wrong with me.
01:11:26.239 --> 01:11:35.920
And to have Olivia and Robert Smith, I think there's a little tag teaming, um, if I can recall in their duet.
01:11:36.319 --> 01:11:51.119
And I love, I love uh so you know, it could be about a romantic um engagement, uh gone awry, you know, just or I don't know.
01:11:51.279 --> 01:11:52.960
We talked about this a lot, actually.
01:11:53.279 --> 01:11:59.840
We debated we debated, like is it We got into the weeds, and Ed was just like, but this lyric and this means this and this is true.
01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:05.920
Is this like a love song that's gonna result in love, or is it a breakup song, or is it like what exactly is it?
01:12:06.079 --> 01:12:06.880
We really got into it.
01:12:07.039 --> 01:12:07.359
Okay, thank you.
01:12:08.479 --> 01:12:09.600
By the way just today on the driveover.
01:12:09.920 --> 01:12:13.199
Okay, what'd you what was the what what was the uptake?
01:12:13.680 --> 01:12:15.119
I don't want to speak for Colette.
01:12:15.439 --> 01:12:16.079
I'll try.
01:12:16.319 --> 01:12:18.720
Um I think I think we're all aligned now.
01:12:18.880 --> 01:12:20.159
Well, maybe you're not, I don't know.
01:12:20.239 --> 01:12:23.039
But that this is probably not going anywhere good.
01:12:23.279 --> 01:12:23.439
Yeah.
01:12:23.680 --> 01:12:24.960
The question is, what is the background?
01:12:25.039 --> 01:12:25.680
What's the context?
01:12:25.760 --> 01:12:27.520
Are these two friends who've fallen in love?
01:12:27.680 --> 01:12:32.880
Have they actually had a love that they've been doing and it's gone south?
01:12:33.439 --> 01:12:35.680
But but it's probably not going anywhere good.
01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:36.079
Okay.
01:12:36.319 --> 01:12:37.279
The melancholy part.
01:12:37.359 --> 01:12:38.560
It's like something's ending.
01:12:38.880 --> 01:12:39.199
Yeah.
01:12:39.359 --> 01:12:40.000
Yeah.
01:12:40.399 --> 01:12:40.880
Yeah.
01:12:41.119 --> 01:12:42.800
She's so crashed out.
01:12:43.039 --> 01:12:48.239
She can't eat, she can't sleep, she's meditating with a bottle of wine.
01:12:53.119 --> 01:12:53.920
That's a great line.
01:12:54.159 --> 01:12:55.279
Such a great wine.
01:12:57.920 --> 01:12:58.560
Wow.
01:12:58.960 --> 01:13:00.479
Wow, you did that.
01:13:02.000 --> 01:13:03.199
You didn't need to, did you?
01:13:03.600 --> 01:13:03.920
No.
01:13:05.199 --> 01:13:08.239
Um, seriously, you're not drinking wine.
01:13:08.479 --> 01:13:12.640
We're not! I mean we're drinking wine water from my Stanley.
01:13:13.199 --> 01:13:14.640
I love your Stanley.
01:13:19.439 --> 01:13:22.399
So that brings us to song number 11.
01:13:23.039 --> 01:13:25.119
Iconic by mistake.
01:13:26.239 --> 01:13:26.880
Yeah.
01:13:27.279 --> 01:13:30.479
This was number three on my mind-blown list.
01:13:30.720 --> 01:13:33.680
Also from Carmanica, Carmeniac.
01:13:33.840 --> 01:13:34.800
Oh, this is another one of those.
01:13:35.039 --> 01:13:35.439
Yes.
01:13:35.680 --> 01:13:38.640
Also, also last month, June 2026 release.
01:13:38.960 --> 01:13:46.479
Um, this is a this is a production of three K-pop girl bands.
01:13:46.640 --> 01:13:51.600
Uh they are Les Seraphime, uh-huh.
01:13:52.000 --> 01:13:54.159
Eyelit, and Cat's Eye.
01:13:54.239 --> 01:13:54.640
Uh-huh.
01:13:56.000 --> 01:14:03.119
And I love this song so much because, well, it's definitely one of the I have it in the fight hype category.
01:14:03.439 --> 01:14:03.920
Fits.
01:14:04.079 --> 01:14:04.319
Right?
01:14:04.640 --> 01:14:04.960
Fits.
01:14:05.119 --> 01:14:05.279
Fits.
01:14:05.520 --> 01:14:06.079
Two to a T.
01:14:06.159 --> 01:14:07.760
It's that's a perfect categorization for it.
01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:09.279
Hype and fight.
01:14:09.439 --> 01:14:09.920
Both.
01:14:10.239 --> 01:14:20.000
And the fight is this this iconic by mistake is like all the hate mail that these kids are getting made that brilliant so iconic.
01:14:20.319 --> 01:14:20.640
Uh-huh.
01:14:20.800 --> 01:14:21.920
So thank you.
01:14:22.000 --> 01:14:24.880
Was it uh thank you for your comments?
01:14:25.199 --> 01:14:27.039
Thank you for your comments, right?
01:14:27.439 --> 01:14:28.960
Oh god, why am I forgetting?
01:14:29.199 --> 01:14:30.079
Because of all your hate.
01:14:30.319 --> 01:14:34.319
Because of all your hate, I am I am iconic by mistake.
01:14:34.560 --> 01:14:37.199
Uh uh I am iconic by mistake.
01:14:37.520 --> 01:14:38.560
The whole premise is brilliant.
01:14:38.800 --> 01:14:39.600
It is brilliant.
01:14:39.840 --> 01:14:40.640
It is brilliant.
01:14:41.199 --> 01:14:44.319
Look what you've created with your hate in your face.
01:14:46.720 --> 01:14:47.439
Totally brilliant.
01:14:47.600 --> 01:14:49.439
By the way, the seraphim is an anagram.
01:14:49.520 --> 01:14:50.159
Did you know that?
01:14:50.399 --> 01:14:50.720
No.
01:14:51.039 --> 01:14:52.000
I'm fearless.
01:14:52.159 --> 01:14:52.960
Oh, sweet.
01:14:53.199 --> 01:14:58.560
And ill it is short for I will it, bringing something into existence.
01:14:58.880 --> 01:14:58.960
Okay.
01:14:59.760 --> 01:15:00.159
Right.
01:15:00.880 --> 01:15:01.920
Moving on.
01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:04.399
Uh-huh.
01:15:05.520 --> 01:15:06.159
Uh-huh.
01:15:06.640 --> 01:15:07.359
This is funny.
01:15:07.439 --> 01:15:10.159
We talked about like, did you introduce it to me?
01:15:10.399 --> 01:15:11.119
This was hilarious.
01:15:11.199 --> 01:15:11.760
No, I didn't.
01:15:11.920 --> 01:15:14.319
I was wondering, did Joel maybe introduce it?
01:15:15.439 --> 01:15:17.199
Maybe it's the algorithm.
01:15:17.520 --> 01:15:18.640
Maybe it's an algae.
01:15:18.800 --> 01:15:19.600
Maybe it was the LG.
01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:22.159
TK TK Meidza.
01:15:22.479 --> 01:15:23.039
Meidza.
01:15:23.840 --> 01:15:27.359
Originally from Zimbabwe, but presenting in Australia.
01:15:28.560 --> 01:15:32.000
Uh it's in my impossible to resist getting down to this category.
01:15:32.159 --> 01:15:33.840
It's from 2015.
01:15:34.319 --> 01:15:38.399
I got 20, I got 2014 on my switch tape EP.
01:15:38.720 --> 01:15:38.960
Okay.
01:15:39.119 --> 01:15:40.720
Switch tape EP, that's right.
01:15:40.880 --> 01:15:41.600
Uh-huh.
01:15:42.079 --> 01:15:46.800
Um it has the very catchy lyric chitty chitty bang.
01:15:47.119 --> 01:15:50.000
Chitty bang bang, chitty bang, bang, chitty bang, chit chit bang.
01:15:50.239 --> 01:15:52.479
Chitty bang bang, chitty bang, chitty bang.
01:15:52.640 --> 01:15:53.199
Mm-hmm.
01:15:58.000 --> 01:15:59.119
We're up to twelve.
01:15:59.359 --> 01:16:00.800
Uh thirteen! Uh-huh.
01:16:01.760 --> 01:16:02.880
After uh-huh.
01:16:03.359 --> 01:16:03.760
Uh-huh.
01:16:05.359 --> 01:16:06.800
Shoes in Texas.
01:16:10.479 --> 01:16:11.920
Colette introduced you to this song.
01:16:12.479 --> 01:16:13.439
This one's for Colette.
01:16:13.600 --> 01:16:13.760
Yeah.
01:16:14.000 --> 01:16:16.880
Colette introduced me to this song, Ella Langley.
01:16:19.119 --> 01:16:25.439
I will, by extension, dedicate the song to Francesca, who is a country music lover.
01:16:25.520 --> 01:16:29.600
Yes, and was maybe part of why Colette had the country music station on.
01:16:30.239 --> 01:16:30.479
She was.
01:16:30.560 --> 01:16:31.119
I asked her about it.
01:16:31.439 --> 01:16:31.600
Okay.
01:16:32.319 --> 01:16:33.680
I already forgot the story she told me.
01:16:33.920 --> 01:16:34.479
It's got it.
01:16:34.640 --> 01:16:38.239
But but but it is but it is connected in her mind with our younger daughter.
01:16:38.560 --> 01:16:38.800
Okay.
01:16:39.199 --> 01:16:40.239
Okay, yeah.
01:16:40.560 --> 01:16:43.920
Um, and in my mind too, and in my heart connected.
01:16:44.079 --> 01:16:48.640
This is their younger daughter who shops at Boot Barn, for example.
01:16:49.439 --> 01:16:54.960
Um Yeah, I remember the first time we listened to it.
01:16:55.600 --> 01:16:58.079
I think I said, like, what's the song in the summer, Colette?
01:16:58.239 --> 01:17:02.800
And she was like, Oh, this song is on all the airwaves.
01:17:03.359 --> 01:17:06.720
And it's called Choosing Texas.
01:17:07.039 --> 01:17:10.159
And I I liked it.
01:17:10.479 --> 01:17:11.760
I liked it.
01:17:12.159 --> 01:17:16.960
Um, but it's like you said, it earned my love.
01:17:17.520 --> 01:17:19.840
It earned my love on repeat listens.
01:17:19.920 --> 01:17:32.000
And I think I just kept seeing it come up as Song of the Summer on everybody's uh, you know, um, in everybody's list was this song.
01:17:32.159 --> 01:17:37.760
It it I mean, this artist, Ella Langley, has beat chart records.
01:17:37.840 --> 01:17:49.680
I think this particular song has been on the charts longer than like the the for a female vocalist, she has surpassed Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey Hoop, right?
01:17:50.399 --> 01:17:50.720
Number one.
01:17:50.880 --> 01:17:53.359
And number one on the billboard charts for 15 weeks.
01:17:53.920 --> 01:17:55.039
Nice job for 15 weeks.
01:17:55.199 --> 01:18:00.720
And I actually asked Gemini, I said, um, was it I what did I say?
01:18:00.800 --> 01:18:04.319
I said, was choosing Texas number one in the overall hot hundred or just country?
01:18:04.560 --> 01:18:16.640
Short answer, it hit number one on the overall, all genre billboard hot hundred hot one hundred, and it beat out I Will Always Love You by Whitney Houston, 14 weeks, and Mariah Carey, we belong together, 14 weeks.
01:18:17.600 --> 01:18:18.880
Way to go, Ella.
01:18:19.039 --> 01:18:19.279
Right?
01:18:19.520 --> 01:18:19.920
Way to go.
01:18:20.720 --> 01:18:24.960
I mean, it's such it's so interesting because it is squarely in the country genre.
01:18:25.119 --> 01:18:25.279
Yes.
01:18:25.520 --> 01:18:27.760
Squarely has so many tropes from country.
01:18:28.000 --> 01:18:30.560
But the crossover appeal, 15 weeks.
01:18:30.720 --> 01:18:32.399
Yeah, all-time record setting.
01:18:32.640 --> 01:18:32.880
Yeah.
01:18:33.119 --> 01:18:33.840
Number one.
01:18:34.159 --> 01:18:34.560
Yeah.
01:18:34.720 --> 01:18:55.439
That's that's very indicative of what I think is that this artist has a song that has is feels twangy, like you're saying, like it's uh a story about a dejected lover from Tennessee who who's been rejected by Texas.
01:18:55.760 --> 01:18:58.399
So screw you, Texas.
01:18:58.960 --> 01:18:59.520
I love it.
01:18:59.680 --> 01:19:06.159
I read that like Jack Daniels is made in Tennessee, so that was like this little product placement, like you know, drinking jet.
01:19:07.760 --> 01:19:08.640
Yeah, it's one of the lyrics.
01:19:08.720 --> 01:19:09.279
Drinking Jap.
01:19:14.239 --> 01:19:15.359
It is a heartbreaking song.
01:19:19.119 --> 01:19:21.279
It is, it's a water melancholy song.
01:19:23.199 --> 01:19:33.680
And Ella Langley's vocals on it are raw and clear and down to earth.
01:19:34.319 --> 01:19:40.800
There's there's a draw, but it's and it's relatable.
01:19:42.239 --> 01:19:45.279
And it touches my country nerve, which we talked about last week too.
01:19:45.920 --> 01:19:52.720
Like you're such a sucker for uh Well, and I mean, so country music was all around me in Montana.
01:19:53.039 --> 01:19:53.439
Uh-huh.
01:19:53.680 --> 01:19:56.960
So I didn't I didn't like it for a lot of reasons.
01:19:57.199 --> 01:19:57.520
Okay.
01:19:57.920 --> 01:20:01.760
Um, but it still touches something inside me when I hear a country song.
01:20:02.319 --> 01:20:04.000
Yeah, you said it paints a picture.
01:20:04.319 --> 01:20:05.600
Yeah, and this one really does.
01:20:05.760 --> 01:20:06.399
Yes.
01:20:06.640 --> 01:20:06.960
Yes.
01:20:07.119 --> 01:20:08.800
I love the two-step in.
01:20:09.439 --> 01:20:17.119
And I think I put this on this playlist, both because of Colette and Jojo, but also, and all the lists.
01:20:17.279 --> 01:20:21.840
But also, I got to go square dancing a few weekends ago.
01:20:22.399 --> 01:20:22.960
Barn dance.
01:20:23.199 --> 01:20:25.760
I went to a barn dance at Pie Ranch.
01:20:26.000 --> 01:20:27.279
I didn't know it was actually square dancing.
01:20:27.359 --> 01:20:28.880
So they're they're burking out instructors.
01:20:29.039 --> 01:20:29.119
Yes.
01:20:29.840 --> 01:20:30.159
Yes.
01:20:30.319 --> 01:20:36.720
With live music, banjo, guitar, vocals, and yes, and a caller.
01:20:37.039 --> 01:20:37.920
I like Burkin.
01:20:38.159 --> 01:20:39.279
Yeah, he was gentle.
01:20:39.520 --> 01:20:49.119
Um, yeah, so we so that was a wonderful experience that we shared with Skyla and a great summer crowd and a great summer memory.
01:20:49.279 --> 01:20:49.760
Oh, perfect.
01:20:50.000 --> 01:20:54.640
We danced, you know, at I think it started at like 6 to 10:30.
01:20:54.800 --> 01:21:04.079
So like the sunset in like just a little north of Santa Cruz, fog rolled in, the lights came up, yeah.
01:21:04.159 --> 01:21:06.399
It was it's such a great time, and we ate pie.
01:21:06.720 --> 01:21:14.479
I think Ella Langley co-wrote the song with or co-wrote the album with Miranda Lambert, but I love that too.
01:21:14.640 --> 01:21:15.279
Credit.
01:21:15.439 --> 01:21:30.079
Because Mariah Carey wrote her own songs, and Whitney Houston, I'm not sure if she wrote that particular song, but it means it's it's another layer to the co-written and with featuring backing harmonies from Miranda Long.
01:21:30.159 --> 01:21:30.800
Miranda Lambert.
01:21:31.119 --> 01:21:32.239
She's actually singing in the song.
01:21:32.800 --> 01:21:34.319
Okay, love that.
01:21:34.560 --> 01:21:35.039
Love that.
01:21:35.279 --> 01:21:36.720
You go, guys.
01:21:36.960 --> 01:21:37.359
Gals.
01:21:43.199 --> 01:21:44.880
Are we ready to move on to the next song?
01:21:45.119 --> 01:21:45.760
Let's go.
01:21:46.640 --> 01:21:48.000
This one surprised me.
01:21:48.319 --> 01:21:50.720
Oh, this is from the movie Michael.
01:21:50.800 --> 01:21:52.319
This is why it's on my playlist.
01:21:52.399 --> 01:22:03.760
I heard I think I saw the movie Michael, the very controversial biopic about Michael Jackson, um, maybe in May.
01:22:04.079 --> 01:22:19.039
And my favorite moment of the film was Michael's the portrayal of Michael singing this song Human Nature, which is written by one of the artists from the band, Toto.
01:22:19.439 --> 01:22:20.399
Steve Percaro.
01:22:20.640 --> 01:22:20.960
Thank you.
01:22:21.039 --> 01:22:31.279
Steve Percaro wrote it for Toto, who passed on it, thinking it was maybe like John Lennon ridiculing Paul McCartney too lightweight for them.
01:22:31.680 --> 01:22:34.159
Quincy Jones heard the tape by accident.
01:22:34.239 --> 01:22:34.800
Did you know that?
01:22:34.960 --> 01:22:35.520
Oh, I didn't know that.
01:22:35.600 --> 01:22:36.800
I thought they sent it to Quincy.
01:22:37.039 --> 01:22:39.600
While reviewing songs for Thriller.
01:22:40.239 --> 01:22:40.960
Oh, come on.
01:22:41.279 --> 01:22:42.720
Insisted on including it on Thriller.
01:22:43.119 --> 01:22:45.279
And Michael sang it as is.
01:22:45.520 --> 01:22:50.880
Like they they didn't like adapt it for Michael, is what I saw in the documentary Yacht Rock.
01:22:51.119 --> 01:22:51.680
Oh, okay.
01:22:51.920 --> 01:23:05.119
Where this is all revealed, yes, that that they took the they took the song as is, and then oh my god, it's such a it's I have it in like a sunny sensuality category.
01:23:05.359 --> 01:23:07.039
Like there's a brightness to it.
01:23:07.359 --> 01:23:08.560
Fucking out.
01:23:10.239 --> 01:23:11.600
And also vocals.
01:23:12.319 --> 01:23:17.920
I think this is as a um a vehicle for Michael Jackson's voice.
01:23:18.079 --> 01:23:23.039
I don't know about a Michael Jackson song that showcases his vocal talent like this song does.
01:23:23.680 --> 01:23:24.479
Great point.
01:23:25.279 --> 01:23:35.359
Yeah, you've got the and there's this softness and liltingness to it, but the agility agility of his voice.
01:23:35.760 --> 01:23:36.399
Yes.
01:23:36.640 --> 01:23:37.039
Yes.
01:23:37.439 --> 01:23:40.239
Do you know the story about how Steve Percaro wrote this song?
01:23:40.399 --> 01:23:40.640
No.
01:23:40.880 --> 01:23:41.520
Who he wrote it for?
01:23:41.680 --> 01:23:41.840
No.
01:23:42.000 --> 01:23:43.119
He wrote it for his daughter.
01:23:44.560 --> 01:23:50.319
Percaro originally wrote the music on a cassette tape for his daughter after she had a rough day at school.
01:23:51.520 --> 01:23:52.960
Oh my gosh.
01:23:54.079 --> 01:23:54.720
Wow.
01:23:55.600 --> 01:23:56.880
It's tender.
01:23:57.760 --> 01:23:59.119
Why this playlist, Ro?
01:23:59.920 --> 01:24:00.880
Because of the movie.
01:24:01.039 --> 01:24:13.119
Because I saw it in May and I just was like it, you know, interestingly, I think the song Billy Jean is has been like back on the Billboard charts since the movie came out.
01:24:13.279 --> 01:24:18.079
Like, like it did sort of reinvigorate Michael Jackson fandom.
01:24:18.720 --> 01:24:22.000
But human nature was my favorite moment of the movie.
01:24:22.159 --> 01:24:28.239
The part the performance of human nature in the movie is so there's it's so suspenseful.
01:24:28.399 --> 01:24:30.560
There are like Ugh.
01:24:30.720 --> 01:24:33.119
It's like there's these beautiful pauses.
01:24:35.039 --> 01:24:46.960
And like you said, the vocal quality, and he just it's a it's the the the in the film, it's like him performing it live.
01:24:47.600 --> 01:24:51.279
And I feel like I need to see this movie just to see this performance.
01:24:51.520 --> 01:24:53.680
I think you could I mean I actually thought about that.
01:24:53.840 --> 01:24:57.840
Like, could we could we excerpt is is does YouTube have this particular?
01:24:58.239 --> 01:24:59.439
I would love to see that again.
01:24:59.600 --> 01:25:00.000
Yeah.
01:25:00.800 --> 01:25:03.680
Uh that's why it's on my playlist.
01:25:04.079 --> 01:25:11.119
It's just been in my in the milieu of my summer having seen the flick.
01:25:11.439 --> 01:25:11.920
Mm-hmm.
01:25:12.239 --> 01:25:12.560
Good.
01:25:12.640 --> 01:25:20.319
Well, I'm glad you included it because it's put a whole new it's it's opened up this song to me, because I think I had just written it off.
01:25:20.479 --> 01:25:23.520
I mean, I'm much more of a beat it.
01:25:24.000 --> 01:25:24.479
Totally.
01:25:24.720 --> 01:25:28.159
Uh wannabe starting something kind of guy.
01:25:28.479 --> 01:25:32.399
And I think, you know, I was a sophomore in high school, and I think I wrote this.
01:25:32.640 --> 01:25:33.600
I was a freshman, actually.
01:25:34.399 --> 01:25:35.199
I think I mentioned 83.
01:25:36.800 --> 01:25:38.159
Uh Thriller came out in 82.
01:25:38.319 --> 01:25:38.399
Okay.
01:25:38.640 --> 01:25:40.880
And then 83 was when this was released.
01:25:41.760 --> 01:25:46.159
It was super too soft, and I was trying to be tough my sophomore year or freshman year in high school.
01:25:46.239 --> 01:25:51.039
So I never I just never even bothered to listen to this song.
01:25:51.119 --> 01:25:52.479
It that just was never interested in.
01:25:52.640 --> 01:25:53.680
Then here it is on your playlist.
01:25:53.840 --> 01:25:55.039
Oh, okay, let's check it out.
01:25:55.199 --> 01:25:55.600
It's beautiful.
01:25:55.840 --> 01:25:56.720
It's so thank you.
01:25:57.119 --> 01:25:57.920
You're so welcome.
01:25:58.079 --> 01:25:59.920
Yes, it's so worth listening to.
01:26:00.159 --> 01:26:02.319
We love you, human nature.
01:26:03.039 --> 01:26:12.479
And yeah, just a nice antidote to what I've been describing as the dumpster fire and our you know, our this is our better angels.
01:26:12.800 --> 01:26:13.520
Absolutely.
01:26:13.760 --> 01:26:15.119
That's a great framing.
01:26:20.000 --> 01:26:21.520
The tide is high.
01:26:21.760 --> 01:26:23.119
But I'm holding on.
01:26:23.359 --> 01:26:24.000
Blondie.
01:26:24.159 --> 01:26:27.199
You referred to Blondie earlier when we were talking about Summer Boy.
01:26:27.840 --> 01:26:28.000
Exactly.
01:26:28.159 --> 01:26:28.800
Yes, love that.
01:26:29.119 --> 01:26:38.560
She I yes, uh Gemini had pointed out that and that actually Lady Daga had said that Debbie Harry was along with Gwen Stefani, was one of her inspirations for that.
01:26:39.359 --> 01:26:39.840
Love that.
01:26:40.000 --> 01:26:40.960
They're both in here.
01:26:41.119 --> 01:26:44.960
This this song I dedicate to my Uncle Brad.
01:26:45.359 --> 01:26:50.479
Uncle Brad, um, he is my Alaskan uncle.
01:26:50.640 --> 01:27:07.279
Um, sent us a lot of love while Ed was recovering, including um his wife, my Aunt Chrissy, made us uh one of our sort of totem creature comfort objects, which it we call the cloud.
01:27:07.439 --> 01:27:19.920
It's like a quarter-size down comforter with a fleece cover or flannel, plaid, flannel, plaid cover over a down comforter.
01:27:20.000 --> 01:27:22.319
It's like a lap comforter.
01:27:22.399 --> 01:27:22.800
I don't know.
01:27:22.880 --> 01:27:23.840
It's a cloud.
01:27:24.079 --> 01:27:32.000
So it uh the song is from 1980.
01:27:32.239 --> 01:27:32.960
1980.
01:27:33.439 --> 01:27:44.000
And I just remember driving around with Uncle Brad somewhere in Toledo, Ohio, and the song being on the radio and him saying what a great song it is.
01:27:44.159 --> 01:27:44.399
Uh-huh.
01:27:44.560 --> 01:27:48.800
And it is such a great like for Blondie, it's like a it's like uh It's a departure.
01:27:49.039 --> 01:27:49.840
It's a departure.
01:27:49.920 --> 01:27:52.079
Yes, it's a departure for Blondie.
01:27:52.239 --> 01:27:56.960
Um, it's in my cabana cannabis because high is right there in the title.
01:27:57.279 --> 01:27:59.359
But it also has this kind of wonderful.
01:28:00.239 --> 01:28:05.520
Like is it like mariachi kind of instrumentation?
01:28:05.920 --> 01:28:09.600
Did you and I have a I feel like this I don't know who else I've ever had this conversation with.
01:28:09.760 --> 01:28:13.680
We had a debate about what was the primary instrument in this song.
01:28:13.840 --> 01:28:14.560
Do you remember?
01:28:14.720 --> 01:28:16.399
I feel like it's it us.
01:28:17.119 --> 01:28:19.760
I was like, it I love the strings in that song.
01:28:20.640 --> 01:28:20.960
Horns?
01:28:23.840 --> 01:28:26.239
I remember like, I love the strings in the tide is high.
01:28:26.319 --> 01:28:28.880
And you're like, there's no strings in the tide of the hide, it's horns.
01:28:28.960 --> 01:28:30.800
I'm like, there's no horns in the tide is high.
01:28:30.960 --> 01:28:31.760
And then we listened to it.
01:28:31.920 --> 01:28:34.880
We're like, oh, it's actually both.
01:28:35.279 --> 01:28:36.560
That's amazing.
01:28:36.800 --> 01:28:37.760
We're both right.
01:28:38.000 --> 01:28:38.880
Yes, we are.
01:28:39.039 --> 01:28:39.920
Okay, that's so great.
01:28:40.079 --> 01:28:43.439
Because I was like, oh, if I said horns before, now I think strings.
01:28:43.600 --> 01:28:44.560
Oh, that's great.
01:28:44.800 --> 01:28:46.239
It's horns and strings.
01:28:46.479 --> 01:28:48.079
And they work complimentary.
01:28:48.319 --> 01:28:56.319
Sometimes they're in in concert, sometimes they're like the like the to be the best moment in the song is right near the end with a descending horn light.
01:28:56.720 --> 01:29:02.159
Um bo.
01:29:07.520 --> 01:29:09.920
And during the second half of that, the strings go.
01:29:12.640 --> 01:29:15.600
I think it's like down and then up at an octave and went right back down.
01:29:15.760 --> 01:29:19.439
And they the it's the to me, that's the climactic moment of the song.
01:29:20.239 --> 01:29:21.600
That's I love that.
01:29:21.760 --> 01:29:24.239
I will I will think about that now when I hear that.
01:29:24.560 --> 01:29:28.239
They're also what Blondie added to the original.
01:29:28.399 --> 01:29:29.680
Did you know it was a cover?
01:29:30.000 --> 01:29:30.319
No.
01:29:30.720 --> 01:29:30.960
Yeah.
01:29:31.199 --> 01:29:33.920
It's a cover, and I went back and listened to the original.
01:29:34.159 --> 01:29:37.119
Uh the group is called The Paragons.
01:29:37.680 --> 01:29:41.680
And they have this whole an album called Something About Something About On the Beach.
01:29:41.840 --> 01:29:42.880
So it's very summery.
01:29:43.039 --> 01:29:43.359
Yes.
01:29:43.600 --> 01:29:47.039
Um fits with the maybe, of course, maybe this is stereotyping.
01:29:47.119 --> 01:29:49.119
They're a Jamaican rock steady group.
01:29:49.439 --> 01:29:49.520
Okay.
01:29:50.399 --> 01:29:51.920
Um and are they yeah.
01:29:52.000 --> 01:29:54.399
So stereotyping with the oh cannabis.
01:29:55.279 --> 01:29:55.439
Right.
01:29:55.520 --> 01:29:56.720
So it fits as well.
01:29:56.800 --> 01:29:57.119
Yes, yes.
01:29:57.439 --> 01:29:59.600
If it's summer, if it's your cannabis.
01:30:00.640 --> 01:30:03.279
Uh uh what's the cabana.
01:30:03.520 --> 01:30:04.479
Yes, yes, that's right.
01:30:04.720 --> 01:30:06.239
Um fits that as well.
01:30:06.560 --> 01:30:08.399
And I I encourage you to go back and listen to it.
01:30:08.479 --> 01:30:10.479
It's of course, it's it's the original?
01:30:10.720 --> 01:30:10.880
Yeah.
01:30:11.119 --> 01:30:11.279
Okay.
01:30:11.600 --> 01:30:13.039
And it's all heteronormative.
01:30:13.279 --> 01:30:13.520
Okay.
01:30:13.680 --> 01:30:18.319
Um of course Debbie's like, I'm not the kind of girl who gives everyone wants you to be her man.
01:30:18.560 --> 01:30:26.399
They said, every man wants you to be his girl, but I'll wait right here till it's my turn so it rhymes a little bit better.
01:30:26.720 --> 01:30:27.359
Oh yeah.
01:30:27.680 --> 01:30:28.720
Okay, okay, okay.
01:30:28.800 --> 01:30:29.279
I see.
01:30:29.680 --> 01:30:30.640
Oh, that's so funny.
01:30:30.800 --> 01:30:31.359
Okay, great.
01:30:31.760 --> 01:30:39.439
Um, but the heart the har the vocal harmonies in the original are even more striking than the beautiful vocal harmonies in this version.
01:30:39.840 --> 01:30:40.560
Right, come on.
01:30:40.960 --> 01:30:41.439
In my opinion.
01:30:41.600 --> 01:30:46.720
Because mostly because there's less instrumentation, so the vocals really shine for 1967.
01:30:47.199 --> 01:30:47.439
Okay.
01:30:47.920 --> 01:30:48.399
Yeah.
01:30:48.720 --> 01:30:49.520
Okay, thank you.
01:30:49.760 --> 01:30:50.159
You're welcome.
01:30:50.319 --> 01:30:50.399
All right.
01:30:50.640 --> 01:30:52.479
Thank you for the opportunity to learn this stuff.
01:30:52.800 --> 01:30:54.479
Thank you for learning it.
01:30:55.119 --> 01:30:56.399
You good learner.
01:30:56.640 --> 01:30:58.479
Oh my gosh, we're getting close to the end.
01:30:58.720 --> 01:30:59.039
We are.
01:30:59.600 --> 01:31:00.159
We move.
01:31:00.239 --> 01:31:02.560
We've got so we've we've chosen Texas.
01:31:02.720 --> 01:31:04.560
We've experienced our human nature.
01:31:04.720 --> 01:31:07.920
The tide got high, and so we're freeing our mind.
01:31:08.640 --> 01:31:10.640
The tide got high, and so did I.
01:31:11.039 --> 01:31:13.920
Um, this is Prospa and Clooney.
01:31:14.560 --> 01:31:19.199
This is the fifth song that Okay.
01:31:20.079 --> 01:31:21.119
2026.
01:31:21.600 --> 01:31:24.399
Karmanica introduced from the pot.
01:31:24.560 --> 01:31:24.640
Great.
01:31:24.800 --> 01:31:24.960
Yes.
01:31:25.119 --> 01:31:25.279
Great.
01:31:25.359 --> 01:31:26.239
Fifth rate is yes.
01:31:26.319 --> 01:31:26.560
It possibly.
01:31:28.479 --> 01:31:28.640
Yes.
01:31:29.039 --> 01:31:36.079
It felt like meaning the callback to House Boy in a way because it's such a like right in the middle of like is a house song.
01:31:36.319 --> 01:31:37.199
Yes, it is.
01:31:37.359 --> 01:31:38.880
It is right, it is a house song.
01:31:38.960 --> 01:31:40.319
Let's see what it does you say.
01:31:40.560 --> 01:31:44.399
Um 128 dpm, so we're we sped it up.
01:31:45.279 --> 01:32:02.319
Um this rapidly rising British tech house duo has a way of making even the biggest tents feel intimate.
01:32:02.560 --> 01:32:02.800
Oh.
01:32:03.199 --> 01:32:04.239
Was the description.
01:32:05.840 --> 01:32:08.399
And Karamanica.
01:32:08.960 --> 01:32:10.399
And uh I loved that.
01:32:10.640 --> 01:32:16.479
I didn't necessarily feel intimacy, but I love I want to.
01:32:16.640 --> 01:32:18.560
I want to get intimate in a tent.
01:32:18.880 --> 01:32:29.119
Well, maybe this is also a can of a cabana, cannabis kind of a tent, or a big throbbing rave tent.
01:32:29.279 --> 01:32:32.239
Um, I think this song would do that justice.
01:32:32.479 --> 01:32:40.880
And um it's yeah, a callback to the to the house feeling.
01:32:41.039 --> 01:32:45.439
It's got a I'm gonna look up the lyric.
01:32:48.159 --> 01:32:51.840
Yeah, I want you to be able to take a trip with me to share the joys of ecstasy.
01:32:51.920 --> 01:32:53.359
Let's reach the point of no return.
01:32:53.439 --> 01:32:54.560
Just free your mind.
01:32:54.720 --> 01:33:00.159
My love is what you'll find Free Your Mind, my love is what you'll find.
01:33:00.319 --> 01:33:00.479
Yeah.
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That's a great line.
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Um what was that?
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Oh, uh uh, and also note to our listeners another lesson in not letting your projects die.
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Okay.
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Clumey started the original beat in 2020, but the project sat dormant until he rediscovered the file years later during a studio power outage.
01:33:22.720 --> 01:33:23.199
Wow.
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He rediscovered the file during a studio power outage.
01:33:27.680 --> 01:33:31.119
Like it was on a hard drive or yeah, okay.
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Or it was like a manila folder during a power outage, and he found a uh a receipt with some lyrics on it.
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Um great, thank God.
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Thank God you have freed my mind and many others, and I think it is, yes, it's a very f movement-freeing song.
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Free your body and your mind will follow.
01:34:02.880 --> 01:34:05.279
Which brings us to song 17.
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I was so happy.
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17 is my lucky number, by the way, because my birthday is April 17th.
01:34:10.079 --> 01:34:15.359
So I I didn't intend for there to be 17 songs in this, but I loved that they're where I was like, done.
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This is it.
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Yes.
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And this is the song Crying by Björk.
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Jason and I both love Bjork.
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This was like one of the things we bonded over as this is when I was like, oh, this is gonna be my friend.
01:34:28.800 --> 01:34:36.560
Because Jason was like, bro, I know you're a big Bjork fan, and I've been listening to maybe it was in the post.
01:34:37.279 --> 01:34:38.720
Uh yeah, it must have been post.
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Okay.
01:34:39.520 --> 01:34:42.880
I mean, I I debut post of homogenic for first three.
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I was heavy rotation in fall of 2000, which would have been very early in our friendship.
01:34:49.039 --> 01:34:50.159
Yeah, exactly.
01:34:50.399 --> 01:34:51.359
Exactly.
01:34:51.840 --> 01:34:57.439
Um, yes, a very early and I was I just met Ed.
01:34:58.399 --> 01:35:03.920
So yeah, very early in our friendship, we bonded over Björk and the rest is history.
01:35:04.079 --> 01:35:13.840
The song crying is also in my watermeloncholy, just because it's about like the the sort of grief of you know, crying.
01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:22.239
Um, I can't feel you crying because I need you, but you know, you're it's unrequited.
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And I love it.
01:35:24.479 --> 01:35:32.079
I I mean, I had to have a Bjerk song on my playlist, and I was like, what's a summary Björk song?
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And I thought there's I feel like there's a bunch of them.
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Um, but this lyric, it's a hot day, and I'm dressed lightly.
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I walk carefully through the crowd.
01:35:50.399 --> 01:35:53.199
So everyone's so vulnerable.
01:35:54.079 --> 01:35:55.840
And I am as well.
01:35:57.600 --> 01:36:03.039
And that just like that, that's that's aspirational.
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Like like just being putting yourself out there and we're all vulnerable and appreciating the vulnerability of humanity and raw feelings.
01:36:18.319 --> 01:36:30.399
And I don't know, Jazz, so much of our pod has been about our struggles and finding the tools to help us navigate them, prayers, music.
01:36:31.439 --> 01:36:48.479
And I love Björk so much, and I feel like she's been so uh she's just been iconic and such a her the soundtracks of uh uh her albums have supported me through my life.
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It's like my own coming of age has been in parallel with Björk's musical oeuvre, and it's made my life better.
01:37:00.880 --> 01:37:16.720
This artist has absolutely made my life better and helped me understand my feelings at times and and blown my mind about things, you know, like a lyric like I suck my tongue in remembrance of you.
01:37:17.039 --> 01:37:18.800
In remembrance of you.
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Haven't we done that?
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I mean, I'm doing it right now.
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So thank you.
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Thank you to this artist.
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This one, I mean, am I gonna dedicate this to everyone and also to myself?
01:37:30.319 --> 01:37:33.279
Yes, I dedicate this song to me.
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Um, it came out in 1993, which was the year I moved to San Francisco.
01:37:39.760 --> 01:37:41.680
Wow, wow.
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I can't wait for our summer music episode 2027.
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