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Speaker 1: Well, it's footy final season and we've got to thank the guys for putting something on to keep us entertained between signing season and test netball starting. But you're on no dribble. Strap in! Hello and welcome to No Dribble, the podcast where we talk about netball. We talk about so much more. My name's Carolyn Swindell.
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Speaker 2: I'm Kath Cox.
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Speaker 3: I'm Liz Ellis. Hi.
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Speaker 1: Hi.
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Speaker 3: Hi. She's back.
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Speaker 2: She's back, baby, and she's going to start with a very big happy birthday.
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Speaker 1: Oh, thank you.
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Speaker 2: To our big birthday. Well, it wasn't a big round number.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't a big round number. It's just a big number.
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Speaker 2: So, Liz, this is how I found out this morning. I rock up to do the podcast, and she's got this great halter neck top on, so it looks ripped. And I was like, damn, girl, look at these. And she said, I've just finished doing 57 burpees. Mm. I said, why? And then she said, because it's my birthday and I've got to do one for every year.
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Speaker 1: One for each year. We're lobbying at the gym that it should be 100 minus your age because we've got all these 21-year-olds going, oh, I've done my birthday birthdays, why haven't you done yours? It's like, well, because you're 21 and I'm 57. But anyway, I've done them.
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Speaker 2: And how was your birthday aside from that shitty piece of it?
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Speaker 1: It was wonderful, thank you. I had the great– I love having a birthday on a Sunday and I did not look at my computer and I've got into a bad habit of just doing a bit of work all the time and so on Saturday I thought I'm not going to watch that. Friday night I watched my son play his final sort of concert at school. He did this jazz number. It was sensational. Saturday, no netball, went to the gym, went to the hairdresser. watched like six hours of footy on the couch. And it was great football too, both AFL and NRL. And then yesterday it was just like sleep in, breakfast in bed, great gifts. Then Pete and I went and did a cooking, a Japanese cooking class, which was fantastic. And then we made our own little bento boxes and then we had some sake with it. So I went home, it's one o'clock, we've had lunch, we've got a little bit of a buzz on. So it's like, let's have a snooze.
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Speaker 2: Oh, days don't get better.
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Speaker 1: Oh, it was so good. And then had family barbecue by the pool and it was just a magical Sydney day yesterday. And then there was some more football to watch. So it was great. It was really good. Thank you.
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Speaker 3: That's fabulous.
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Speaker 2: What are you specialising in now, Japanese-wise?
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Speaker 1: So agadashi tofu, I'm now really good at that.
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Speaker 2: Nice.
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Speaker 3: I'm just thinking last week we had the chat about what will we do on our party bus and we didn't put in a cooking class in there, which was not very smart, so I'd like to add that posthumously.
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Speaker 1: It's going to be a long day.
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Speaker 2: It's going to be a very long day.
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Speaker 1: Particularly if we have to be home by 8 o'clock.
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Speaker 2: Well, I suggest no sake drinking at the cooking class and then it might help. We have got no time in this day for an afternoon bath.
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Speaker 1: They didn't have it during. So every other cooking class I've been to, and I've been to a number of cooking classes that they set up as a corporate team-building exercise, which is terrific, but give me a glass of wine and then I'm just, I'm not going to learn anything the whole rest of the time. But I've done some cooking classes at the Sydney Seafood School. which is really good. And it's a great way to spend time with people because you learn something. So the Sydney Seafood School, you go and you sit in a– I don't know what it's like now. They've redone it. But you used to go and sit in a lecture room and they'd show it to you and then you'd go out into the kitchen and you'd be on a station. There's about four or six of you on one station. You cook it and then you take it into the dining room and you eat it. And, like, it's just– it's fabulous.
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Speaker 2: Little social activity.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, good fun.
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Speaker 3: I did a cooking class in Paris once. So when Matthew and I were there, I was like, right, let's do a cooking class. And they sent an email and they said, what do you want to cook? And I said, ah, fargois, which I know is not very cool. Anyway, we got there and there was a group of us and we didn't know any of them. And the person running the cooking class said, so somebody has asked to cook fargois. And who was that? And I've gone, me. I got eight of the stinkiest, stink-eyed, dirty looks.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Oh, it's me over here in my fur coat.
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Speaker 2: What do they all want to cook?
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Speaker 3: I don't know, but I'm like, well, if you don't say something, you don't get what you want, right? So I was like, well, I've never cooked foie gras and obviously you can't cook it.
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Speaker 2: Do you know how to make it?
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Speaker 1: I know that there's animal.
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Speaker 1: Cruelty issues questions around it but i don't know what happens between that so they overfeed the goose in order to make its liver really fatty and but i don't know then what happens oh.
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Speaker 3: Look this was quite some time ago and i will say i didn't understand the animal cruelty issues back then this was quite some time ago now i get it and i wouldn't ask for.
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Speaker 2: It um Have you made it since is the question.
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Speaker 3: No, of course I haven't. I've got nowhere near it. And French cooking is so precise. And then we made this other thing with like a strawberry jus. And we used like 15 putters of strawberry and we got about eight mil of this.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. And it was like.
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Speaker 3: Distilled strawberries, beautiful. I've never tasted anything like it, but I'm like, oh, man, I'd rather just eat the strawberries and get the fibre.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, or just go and buy it. That's expensive.
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Speaker 1: I'd like to know how to make a good French onion soup.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Because I think that is absolutely delicious. I did a cooking class in Thailand and the only reason I'm mentioning it is because Thailand, it's the sort of holiday that's somewhat like Bali. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: See, that's a segue.
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Speaker 1: I'm learning from Elizabeth.
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Speaker 3: And before Catherine asks anything, can I say... The amount of people who've said to me, oh, how was Bali? I didn't see you in any photos.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. She's, what's it, witness protection. We had to pixelate her face. Well, she had to just stand to the side.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I did not go to Bali. I would have loved to have gone. I hated seeing my friends there, including Catherine, but I had sports ball children responsibilities to do. So, Catherine, how was your holiday?
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Speaker 2: Oh, look, we all did too, but we left them at home.
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Speaker 1: But it also sounds like I don't think this will be the last opportunity to celebrate Catherine's 50th. Like, you know, we're two big events now and counting.
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Speaker 2: Oh, there's another coming. It's a festival off.
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Speaker 1: Love it.
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Speaker 2: You got it. How many times are we turning 50?
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Speaker 1: You know what everyone should do when they turn 50 is just be inducted into a Hall of Fame.
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Speaker 2: Well, that was actually nice because that was announced publicly the day I left. So that was a nice little start to the trip. But it was so fun. Just everything about it. Chill, but everything's so cheap. No one got sick. Gordie had an incident. We'll talk about that later. Gordie had an incident. Gordie had an incident. She's okay, though. She's okay. But it was just magic. You know, like everything's so cheap. So firstly, had breakfast made for us every day. We're staying in a villa. It was staffed. Very, very luxe. Not normal life. So I had the barley blues since I got back. Yeah. first to recognise that. And, you know, you get home, you're like, oh, what do you mean I've got to do my own washing and I don't get breakfast made for me and I can't just duck across the road once I get out of the pool and buy a $ 2 beer and then run back and jump in the pool again? Real life is tough.
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Speaker 1: Do you know what I've loved the most is when my friends who were expats and who lived in Southeast Asia and they had small children and then they had to come back to Australia and understand it's vastly different having small children living that you have to look after yourself all the time when you don't have helpers in the house.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was nice. But do you know what the most fascinating thing was?
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Speaker 1: This is the most bourgeois episode of.
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Speaker 2: This podcast we've ever done. I'm going to try and bring it down.
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Speaker 1: And domestic staff and villas.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's not the norm, is it? But I didn't plan on doing much shopping. But where I did go wrong is I walked into one of these big supermarkets and Gordie said the best thing about the villa, because Gordie chose all of this, I said, I want to go. This is how many people we'll have. Can you, given she knows it so well, can you find me some options? So when she was there, she was in and out of all these villas and finding it. So she found this great villa.
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Speaker 3: Oh, cool.
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Speaker 2: But it was all about the location as well, obviously, for her. So she had us near the biggest supermarket in Seminyak. Anyway, just for convenience.
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Speaker 1: That's such a middle-aged woman.
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Speaker 2: I know, I know, I know.
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Speaker 1: Location, location, location. Where is the biggest supermarket in Seminyak?
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Speaker 2: No, but it was so good because it had this massive beauty department. Anyway, walked in there one day and there's all these influencer types everywhere. with trolleys at the shelves, just certain products, filling trolleys. So I spent maybe an hour following these people around, taking whatever they took because I thought, shit, it must be good.
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Speaker 1: So what did you get?
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Speaker 2: Oh, like hair oils, amazing. Collagen, I don't know, serums and sunscreens, like the works.
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Speaker 1: So the sunscreens, though, you've got to be careful with because our sunscreens, when it says SPF 50, it is SPF 50. There are a lot of sunscreens that you can buy from around the world. I don't know these ones specifically, but it says SPF 50 and it might not be SPF at all.
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Speaker 2: That's like the handbags I found that are gutsy, not Gucci. But, no, it was incredible. Everything's so cheap. Yeah. Came back with a fair bit of excess baggage. But, no, it was good fun. Gordie organised. We had an actual birthday night on the Saturday night and she organised a guy to come in and just play his guitar.
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Speaker 1: Play, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Fantastic, and sing to us. So we had a few hours of that.
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Speaker 1: But she did that for one reason.
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Speaker 2: Oh, well, I don't know that she did so much as we made her. Right. Before he was about to leave. Like, Gordie, you've got to sing to us. You've got to sing to us. God, she's good.
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Speaker 3: She's got a great voice.
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Speaker 1: Such an overachiever.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, amazing.
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Speaker 2: So, no, it was all in all fabulous time.
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Speaker 1: She sang Oasis?
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Speaker 2: She sang Oasis, yes, and nailed it. Yeah. But, no, so we arrived and Gordie, when we first saw her, had this massive white patch on her knee with a big bandage around it. She had been there for a week already for a 60th. So she's just bringing it down a decade every week or so. Anyway, was walking just with some mates out shopping and there was a bit of sand on some tile. Completely sober too, must point that out because in Bali it's quite often not the case. Was walking and she slipped on a bit of sand on this tile and felt herself going backwards. So she was thinking, need to put my knee down and try and steady the ship here. Anyway, she put her knee on the ground and there was a broken tile and sliced the front of her knee off. Fourteen stitches. Oh. So this is a couple of days before we arrived. So the poor thing couldn't swim the whole time we were there. It was on antibiotics at the back end so it could hardly drink either. And then combine that with the fact that every five seconds one of us was saying, Gordie, Rose, where's the best place for blah and blah? And blah, they were constantly just tour guides for us, so I cannot thank them enough. They would have needed a holiday after us.
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Speaker 3: Well, what Gordie did get after you guys was inducted.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 2: Well, she had to come home early. She wasn't coming home until the Wednesday, but then found out her Order of Australia and Vestiture Ceremony was on the Wednesday and flew home.
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Speaker 3: Didn't the photo, she looked like the Chessie cat, didn't she? She was so happy. It was great. And she had the barley tan happening and all and no sign of the bandage.
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Speaker 1: No sign of a bandage or any blood seeping through or anything. So that was good. Yeah, congratulations. Susan Jane Gordian.
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Speaker 2: I know, how good. She did say she was one of only four or five women in the whole group.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Amazing.
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Speaker 1: Well, even that, women are getting out of hand. Liz, do you need to make some apologies to some men?
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Speaker 3: Oh, look, always, always just getting at it. But no, just generally. No, I was just thinking though, like I've only nominated one person. You know, you can go into the website and you can nominate people for AMs or like for that. And I nominated a woman who lives in Ballina who is one of my mum's friends and she's amazing. She just fundraisers. Like she's in her 90s and she fundraisers and, you know, she's an amazing community person. And one of the things that I keep seeing and I keep getting messages about is if you know a great woman, then nominate her for these things because, like, the Australia Day Council can't just go and find people. They've got to be nominated.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 3: So nominate a woman.
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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely.
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Speaker 3: That's great, Liz.
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Speaker 1: That is a really helpful, you know, we've talked about trying to adjust, you know, influence the algorithm, but this is actually these Australia Day Awards and People can only get them if they get nominated.
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Speaker 3: Yes, and I think that people think that you have to be, like, well-known or a celebrity. But this lady, Mary, she's amazing. And I thought she needs to be recognised. So if it's someone who has been an amazing coach, like a lot of the people who have got the Win Beneath Our Wings Awards for us over the last couple of years, you could go and nominate them and they would be amazing like that. So go and do it. It's not difficult. You just have to get a few referees. You've got to list out what they do and you can't really tell them that you're doing it because it's supposed to be a bit secret. But absolutely go and do it because it's so worthwhile.
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Speaker 1: And actually part of the purpose of it is to acknowledge the people doing stuff that they don't get paid for. So it's not about... you know, celebrities or whatever. It is about trying to find a way to show thanks and recognition to all of these people who keep the country moving by just doing stuff for no thanks and no reward and whatever and adding their expertise and mentoring younger people. So I think that's really good. We should, as a dribble nation, be really making a point of going, let's get behind this nominations process. Let's think about all of these people who are keeping our game alive at the community level. Maybe they would like more than a shitty scrunchie. Who knows?
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Speaker 2: Don't talk stupid.
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Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to have a little break and come back and talk about some knit balls.
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Speaker 3: Knit balls.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so this is a fabulous time of year. I did say earlier on there's not a lot of netball. There is some amazing netball. And last week we talked at length about the World Cup qualifiers going on. So Tonga and Samoa have qualified for the World Cup. So well done. And we have the World Cup qualifiers in Africa that's going on at the moment and will be done by about the end of this week. But on the weekend in Melbourne at Parkville at the State Netball Centre was the First Nations tournament and it's held for the third time and it went down to the wire.
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Speaker 3: So that final between Queensland and WA, yeah, was amazing. And I watched the last few minutes online and Queensland, spoiler alert, Queensland won, but it was even and then probably the last 30 seconds, Queensland just played the ball around. And the MVP for that game was Kayla Cubby. And she was a goal shooter. And she was so calm, like so amazing. So calm, just ran out of the circle, got the ball, distributed it, ran back, ran out. It was so good to watch. And you could just see that like everyone else around her, she was sort of playing at a different speed to everybody else. She had all the time in the world. thinking about things and then just like slotted a coxie long bomb goal to win the game in the dying seconds. It was amazing. Yeah, it was great. Great netball.
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Speaker 1: So Kayla Cubby, that's a name that we should probably expect to be hearing more of over the next couple of years, hey?
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Speaker 2: Well, listening to that, she's given Joe Harton vibes. Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.
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Speaker 2: The way you describe her. Wow.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so Queensland defeated Western Australia and obviously Western Australia would be feeling very disappointed at that. But no one really expected them on paper to make it as far as they did. So it was a spectacular experience. from them. They defeated New South Wales on percentage to get into the finals there. And Western Australia had actually defeated Queensland in the pool rounds there.
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Speaker 2: Oh, what a great tournament.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely. And last year, I don't know if you remember this one, but last year New South Wales won it by a one-goal thriller in extra time over Queensland.
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Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And this is like they played... seven rounds plus finals over the course of a weekend. So that's like half a Super Netball season played over the course of a weekend. Yeah. It's the third year of the First Nations tournament. So Queensland won it in 2024, New South Wales in 2025, Queensland in 2026. So, yeah, I think it's a– these tournaments are amazing opportunities to go along see a lot of really high-quality netball in one place over one weekend. You know, we all talk about hoping the Team Girls Cup comes back at some stage, but these are, this is the equivalent of the Team Girls Cup at just the next level down, the future stars of the game.
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Speaker 2: Well done. Come on, New South next year.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, you know, maybe South Australia would like to win it.
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Speaker 2: No, we don't need to encourage that behaviour.
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Speaker 1: I'd like to see maybe Tassie get up and have a win. That'd be good. The Lutrawidja, I believe. I may have mispronounced their team name. But, yeah. So, anyway, we should get around these tournaments. And Kayla Cubby, let's keep an eye on her, hey?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's great. I was really pleased just to see, like, a lot of these kids, Sharon Finn and White has had a bit to do with them through the Queensland pathways. So... It's great. And it's a way for these young women to not just represent their culture, but to form really important cultural connections, you know, as they come through the pathways. And I think that's just super important. So there's so many different things that this tournament achieves. And yep, the netball was great. And it was unbelievable to see that final and the way Queensland wound the clock down, but to see all the other things that happened around and outside of it. is phenomenal as well. So it's great.
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Speaker 2: And another great platform to be able to get your eyes on these athletes too, right?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, 100%.
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Speaker 1: And I'm guessing that a number of them will start to show up in Super Netball in the next couple of years in training partners or 11th player positions. And Bec Pollard from the Swifts has sent me some more information on how the 11th player and the training partner system works. Shall I read that, Liz, or did you want to say something more there?
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Speaker 3: And I was going to say Scarlett Jaunce is one of those young players, right? She's come through that First Nations pathway and she's been in the Australian 21s. And so she's a player who will, I think, come through into Super Netball in years to come. And she got to play through this First Nations tournament pathway. So she's a really good example of it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, great. Anyway, so thank you, Bec, for sending me this information. So at the risk of dragging the 11th player slash training partner conversation out even further, In addition to jared's very insightful contribution to the discussion on last week's podcast and if you remember yeah he was sent me some information after i just threw a question out to the universe i think there's one very key piece of information that's been left out but that changes the context of the 11th player versus training partner in short aside from the qualifying criteria and 11th player must meet from memory there are three athlete must meet two of them. The main difference between an 11th player and a training partner is the 11th player can be named in the game, game day 10 at any time. So a player from the contracted 10 can be dropped based on form or tactically and the 11th player can take their position. So they don't have to wait for one of those 10 to fall over with injury. They can bring that 11th player in at any time. A training partner can only be in the game day 10 as a temporary or permanent injury, illness, pregnancy, et cetera, replacement, and this obviously needs to be approved on each occasion by the league to verify the illness, injury, et cetera. So selection of an 11th player is a very tactical decision as they are essentially at your disposal as a coach to use at will throughout the season. I would imagine athletes who can swing from a midcourt to a goal position would be prime targets for coaches depending on the balance of your contracted 10.
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Speaker 2: Well done, Bec Pollard. Very interesting stuff.
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Speaker 1: Getting smarter.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. It is good to know, isn't it, because it's the ins and outs and the planning, the planning around picking a roster and then with all the balls in the air, just add so much.
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Speaker 1: More to it, doesn't it? It was crazy, this everyone off contract period, wasn't it? Because it's like you can have all the plans that you like, but there were– Eight plans in play competing for the same players. It's sort of nice to take a bit of a breath now and go, what do the teams look like? Tipping's going to be tough though, isn't it?
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Speaker 2: I don't even want to think about it.
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Speaker 3: I can't even.
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Speaker 2: Exactly.
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Speaker 3: I've got to get through Christmas first.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Toss a coin.
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Speaker 1: Well, every minute we talk, we get closer to Christmas. Let's have a little break and then come back and I don't know what we're going to talk about in the third segment, but one of you has something that you and I just haven't written it down.
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Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I have a pen in my hand at all times and I didn't use it.
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Speaker 2: I've got something I'll start with.
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Speaker 1: You've got something to start with.
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Speaker 2: Elizabeth Ellis on the way to Bali binge watched Ted Lasso. It is so good.
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Speaker 3: Yes, it's great, isn't it?
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Speaker 2: I wanted Ted Lasso in my life. Yeah. He's tops.
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Speaker 3: He is so good, isn't he?
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Speaker 2: Oh, I loved it.
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Speaker 3: So how far did you get through it?
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Speaker 2: The whole first season. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So he's fabulous, but you need like to, you sort of have to keep, remember that he's a little bit emotionally stunted in the first part.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 3: So he's all, you know, happy and all, you know, front or low, but, I remember watching and going, okay, what does he do when things aren't right? And you sort of see that towards the end and that gets developed. But how amazing is it that did you write much of it down?
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Speaker 1: No.
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Speaker 3: They're like all these little sayings.
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Speaker 2: Flashbacks for when you two were talking about stuff and throwing quotes around. I'll be in on the joke now. But I loved it. I can't wait to watch the next few series, yeah?
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Speaker 3: Who's your favourite character so far?
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Speaker 2: Oh.
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Speaker 1: I love, oh, my God, I'm.
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Speaker 2: Going to forget his name. He started as like the drinks guy.
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Speaker 1: Nate the Great.
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Speaker 2: Yes, Nate. I love him.
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Speaker 1: I love them all.
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Speaker 3: They're all good. Oh, Catherine, I can't wait for you to keep watching.
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Speaker 1: I can't wait for you to keep watching too and see the rise and rise of some of these characters. We won't talk about it now.
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Speaker 2: Okay, don't, don't.
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Speaker 1: No, I'm glad. Welcome, welcome on board.
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Speaker 2: But thank you for that No Dribble recommends like a year ago.
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Speaker 1: Oh, good.
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Speaker 2: Well, welcome.
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Speaker 1: There's four seasons now I think, aren't there?
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Speaker 2: Oh, God, really?
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Speaker 1: I'm not up to the fourth. I am up to date on– Colin from Accounts though, have you guys seen it, the end of it?
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Speaker 2: So great. Oh, no.
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Speaker 1: So without spoiling anything, I reckon they did, you know, very few TV series finish properly. They never have you go away going, I'm so sad that's over, but gee, you did a great job of it. And I thought they did a fabulous job of finishing it in a way that really honoured what they had built the whole way along. They didn't sort of, there weren't any cheap outs or anything you know, big bows tied on storylines and things, but there were, you know, it felt a very satisfying ending.
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Speaker 2: Why do they have to finish, though? I know. As soon as you find something good.
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Speaker 1: Because they've got little kids and Patrick Brown's career is going off the charts. There's a new show. He looks like he's in quite a serious show that was advertised recently. And also the other person who's in that is Brendan Cowell, who looks quite like Patrick Bramwell. But Brendan Cowell has written a great book called Plum.
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Speaker 3: I've read it.
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Speaker 1: It's really, what?
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Speaker 2: Hook, line and sinker.
00:25:05
Speaker 1: Oh, you haven't read it.
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Speaker 2: Oh, brilliant.
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Speaker 3: That was way too easy.
00:25:13
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, so you haven't. I thought it was so funny.
00:25:15
Speaker 2: No, no.
00:25:16
Speaker 1: But it's about a retired rugby league player and you don't need to like rugby league to enjoy this. It's a beautiful story of a man getting older. It was really well worth watching. And I think it's been turned into a TV series.
00:25:30
Speaker 2: Oh.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I will go and find that and read it. Catherine, however, will probably not. But it's interesting with Ted Lasso, when you get to the end of the third season, like they try and wrap it up. And I just assumed it was done because they always said there was only, it was always a three season arc. And obviously it's done so well for themselves that they've come back. So I'm looking forward to seeing how they pick up after you thought all the loose ends had been all tied up.
00:25:56
Speaker 2: Does it become quite repetitive given, I mean, how much can you do the, I'm guessing, relatively the same kind of storyline?
00:26:05
Speaker 3: No, but it's interesting. I think I said this last week that Series 1, my 10-year-old son was hooked because there was lots of football and Series 2, it becomes more about the drama and the relationships. He's like, oh, where's the football? I'm like, mate, this is not about football. This is about learning how to swear. Get with the program.
00:26:22
Speaker 1: This is the swearing show.
00:26:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
00:26:25
Speaker 3: This is a sweary show. But, yeah, Patrick Bramall looks amazing in this drama-y one that he's doing.
00:26:33
Speaker 1: Oh, I just looked up what it's called and I've immediately forgotten.
00:26:37
Speaker 3: Have I told you guys my Patrick Bramall story?
00:26:39
Speaker 1: How's menopause going, Carolyn?
00:26:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, great. Have I told you my Patrick Bramall story at the Logies? Have I brought you with this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love that.
00:26:49
Speaker 1: Remind me.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I just went up to him at the Logies and I forgot. He didn't know me because I'd watched the first series of Colin from Accounts a few years ago. And I ran up to him. I'm like, oh, my God, I just love you.
00:27:00
Speaker 2: And he looked at.
00:27:01
Speaker 3: Me like I was an idiot. And I'm like, eh. Oh, yes, you have told us that.
00:27:05
Speaker 1: It's called Last Scene and it's on Apple TV. Yeah, it looks.
00:27:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be why I would have seen it because every time I was watching Ted Lasso with the kids, he keeps coming up.
00:27:18
Speaker 1: Well, I'm looking forward to a report on that one. But, yes, read Brendan Cowell's book, Plum. It was very good. Liz, I did actually have a few people contact me. last week, who tried to go and buy your mate Nye's book.
00:27:31
Speaker 3: Nye's book.
00:27:32
Speaker 1: It's not out until the end of September.
00:27:34
Speaker 3: Oh, that's next week. What is it? What's the 21st? Okay, you've only got nine days to wait.
00:27:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like a week ago it was two weeks. So people were jumping on board with these things.
00:27:44
Speaker 2: Oh, well done, dribblers.
00:27:46
Speaker 1: Yes. But so I did give an alternative because someone was saying, oh, I really wanted the recommendation for my book club and I gave the recommendation of The Heir Apparent by Rebecca Armitage. Australian author, very interesting imagining of a world where a member of the royal family wants to step out of being a royal princess and be a doctor in Tasmania. Great story. It's not something that I would expect that I would enjoy, but it's really well written and entertaining.
00:28:15
Speaker 2: So Julie Fitzgerald won't read that then?
00:28:16
Speaker 1: She won't read it because she doesn't read fiction.
00:28:18
Speaker 2: I found that fascinating. I had a big chuckle. Only biographies, autobiographies.
00:28:27
Speaker 3: That's the whole point of reading is to get away from real life.
00:28:31
Speaker 1: It's like saying I don't want to watch a movie because it hasn't happened. It's like, yeah, but that's sort of the point is that it's like, hmm.
00:28:36
Speaker 3: That is a whole point. So the heir apparent, is it H-E-I-R as opposed to heir, A-I-R?
00:28:42
Speaker 1: It's not about Shane Warne's foray into Ashley and Martin advertising.
00:28:48
Speaker 3: Okay.
00:28:52
Speaker 1: Well, I reckon, no, actually I've got one more quick dilemma for you. So last weekend while you were in Bali, I was down in Canberra with my nearest and dearest and I had a gig on Saturday night. But we were talking, one of the discussions that we had over the course of that discussion is one of the girls, her husband needs to have a hip replacement, but he wants to take the hip home with him. And one of my female friends said, yeah, I totally get it.
00:29:22
Speaker 2: It's mine.
00:29:23
Speaker 1: I want it. I want to take it home with me. She's got her wisdom teeth. And it's like, why?
00:29:27
Speaker 2: Why?
00:29:29
Speaker 1: On God's green earth, would you want to have a part of your body somewhere in your house?
00:29:36
Speaker 2: Like I don't– Doesn't it disintegrate anyway though? Like how long is that lasting or is that going to be a– I mean I know skeletons are the last thing standing.
00:29:44
Speaker 1: What are you going to do with it? Yeah, skeletons take a while. Like I mean it's sort of, you know, and I understand why the law is that you have to get– like this has to stay at the hospital. Like it's human waste. It needs to be replaced. disposed of properly and you can't have these things falling into nefarious hands or whatever. But I couldn't get over how they were having this conversation like it was a perfectly normal thing that if you have a hip replacement, you should be allowed to take your hip home with you.
00:30:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I don't understand that.
00:30:15
Speaker 2: Are we talking one side like a socket or are we talking like the whole thing? It's not the pelvis.
00:30:21
Speaker 1: It's not the pelvis.
00:30:22
Speaker 2: So it's not big.
00:30:23
Speaker 1: No, but does that make a difference?
00:30:25
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because you've got to think about storage. Where's his hip going.
00:30:29
Speaker 3: To hang out?
00:30:30
Speaker 1: I don't think it would make a difference to me whether it was the tiny little thing I could lose or it's like I don't want that.
00:30:36
Speaker 2: Well, I keep teeth.
00:30:38
Speaker 3: That's disgusting. I was about to say I kept my kids' first tooth that they lost and a lock of hair and then I put Evelyn's away and then it was in like a little silver box and And I found it recently. I opened it up and I'm like, oh, my God, that's like human relics. It's like teeth and hair. So good.
00:30:55
Speaker 2: I know.
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Speaker 3: It's like a bit weird. But at the time I was like, oh, that's her first haircut.
00:31:02
Speaker 1: That's because of the oxytocin, right? You've got all of this coursing through your body. It's this love hormone that happens when you have a baby. And it's the reason that when you've not slept in six weeks and you're so exhausted and this thing's screaming at you that your response is, I love you, rather than, can you piss off and leave me alone, please, you know, and that's what it is. And so then things like I cried when my son got his first haircut, which is deeply embarrassing but also very, very normal. But have you seen those? You can buy a gift for people when they have a baby. There's a little thing you can get and it's like the shape of a mouth and you keep each tooth.
00:31:41
Speaker 2: Oh, no. Each one in order.
00:31:43
Speaker 1: And it's like the shape of a mouth. and you can write the date that they lost it. It's like, what do you do with that? Oh, no.
00:31:51
Speaker 2: I just like to tip them out and try and work it out. Recreate the victim. Your Honour. Yeah. Well, maybe he felt as passionately about his hip. No judgement.
00:32:02
Speaker 1: That is fascinating, though, if you ever see a skull of a child because their adult teeth are there behind. They've got two rows of teeth all there because it's like they're... Wow. Yeah, and it really sort of looks like alien.
00:32:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow.
00:32:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is crazy.
00:32:20
Speaker 2: Where have we ended up? What's happening to this podcast?
00:32:22
Speaker 3: Well, it's funny. I was talking to Evelyn the other day to... Well, she's 14 now, so she's doing all this sort of stuff in science. And she was like, did you know that when... If you've got a daughter inside your womb, all of her eggs are already in her. So you've got your grandchildren. You carry your grandchildren. She's like, so once upon a time, me and Austin were inside Nanny. I'm like, I mean, I knew that from when I wrote my book about infertility, but I'd never personalised it before. I was like, oh, my God, that's amazing.
00:32:53
Speaker 1: Isn't that phenomenal? It's so incredible.
00:32:56
Speaker 2: That's why my mum, any time my daughter does anything, my mum said, well, Well, hang on a minute. I get where you're coming from. You did create me that created her.
00:33:06
Speaker 1: So is this when she does good things that your mother is taking?
00:33:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it doesn't happen often.
00:33:11
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:33:12
Speaker 3: Oh, but that's great things. Oh, that is funny. But, yeah, like so do you know when the thing is though, like when people like your mother wants to blame you for your parents acting up, it's like actually they started with you. It's your issue.
00:33:23
Speaker 1: That's right.
00:33:24
Speaker 2: That's when you flip it on its head. Has she dissected frogs or anything yet at school? When does that happen? No.
00:33:31
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I don't know that we can talk about Fargois and Vivisection in the same podcast without being totally cancelled.
00:33:38
Speaker 2: Were you guys okay with that when you had to do it at school?
00:33:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was fine. Were you?
00:33:43
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I think I was fine from memory, but I remember a lot of people not being.
00:33:47
Speaker 1: My mum was a biology teacher when I was sort of five or six and I remember having to go drive with her to this place. It felt like it was ages away on the outskirts of Brisbane. to pick up all the rats that were like pinned out on the boards. And like at that age it was just a deeply spooky, creepy thing that it's like we've got all of these frozen dead animals.
00:34:10
Speaker 2: And they're pre-pinned.
00:34:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. But teachers are amazing, aren't they? They're forever doing stuff in their own time and out of their own money and things to make the education system, you know, stay afloat. Hug a teacher today. Yes, absolutely.
00:34:27
Speaker 2: I don't think you're allowed to do that anymore.
00:34:29
Speaker 1: Well, you're allowed to if they say that you're allowed to. All right, I think we've descended into chaos here, as you say, with foie gras and vivisection. Is this a netball podcast? Kind of. It's also whatever we want to talk about. But it's great to have you back, Catherine. It's nice to be back. We loved having Julie here last week, but it's really nice to have you back. But we will be back on Wednesday. On Friday? Friday. Today's Wednesday. Today's Monday. I don't know. You know, everything is going wrong. I forgot what segment we were doing. Maybe I need another coffee.
00:35:03
Speaker 2: But.
00:35:04
Speaker 1: Share this podcast with a friend. We do have 25% of tickets left for the Constellation Cup Eve event, so go to nodribble.com.au for the link to where you can buy your tickets. It is shaping up to be the funnest one that we have ever had.
00:35:21
Speaker 2: Bryony Akel will be there. Yes, absolutely. She's very excited. Megan Anderson is a very good chance of being there as well. Oh, that's exciting. We may have another very, very special guest.
00:35:32
Speaker 3: So... You need to be there.
00:35:34
Speaker 1: And Alex, our producer, who everyone hears this talk about every week, she'll be joining us there that night because, of course, Alex and I met through stand-up comedy. She is a very, very accomplished and funny stand-up comedian. So everyone gets to, you know, meet all the celebs.
00:35:49
Speaker 2: Alex should do our welcome. You know how we have in the past had a comedian do a welcome? Yeah, that's right. Alex should do it.
00:35:55
Speaker 1: She is.
00:35:56
Speaker 3: Oh, she is?
00:35:56
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, brilliant.
00:35:57
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Happy days.
00:35:59
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:35:59
Speaker 3: Finally.
00:36:00
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:36:01
Speaker 1: Thank you. Please write all future ideas down on a piece of paper and hand them to me.
00:36:06
Speaker 2: Share them. All right.
00:36:07
Speaker 3: Well, thanks for joining us.
00:36:08
Speaker 1: My name's Carolyn Swindell.
00:36:09
Speaker 2: I'm Kath Cox.
00:36:10
Speaker 3: I'm Liz Ellis, and I'm so pleased that Coxie is back with a tan that doesn't smell.
00:36:14
Speaker 2: Yes. None more than this one.
00:36:16
Speaker 1: You know the office stank for... Three days.
00:36:19
Speaker 3: I know because you kept texting us.
00:36:21
Speaker 2: Oh, good. Was it nice, though, to remember me when I wasn't here?
00:36:25
Speaker 1: I never forget you, Catherine. There's no danger I'll forget you, so I don't need your stinky fake hand. Bye. Bye.
Speaker 1: Well, it's footy final season and we've got to thank the guys for putting something on to keep us entertained between signing season and test netball starting. But you're on no dribble. Strap in! Hello and welcome to No Dribble, the podcast where we talk about netball. We talk about so much more. My name's Carolyn Swindell.
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Speaker 2: I'm Kath Cox.
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Speaker 3: I'm Liz Ellis. Hi.
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Speaker 1: Hi.
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Speaker 3: Hi. She's back.
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Speaker 2: She's back, baby, and she's going to start with a very big happy birthday.
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Speaker 1: Oh, thank you.
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Speaker 2: To our big birthday. Well, it wasn't a big round number.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't a big round number. It's just a big number.
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Speaker 2: So, Liz, this is how I found out this morning. I rock up to do the podcast, and she's got this great halter neck top on, so it looks ripped. And I was like, damn, girl, look at these. And she said, I've just finished doing 57 burpees. Mm. I said, why? And then she said, because it's my birthday and I've got to do one for every year.
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Speaker 1: One for each year. We're lobbying at the gym that it should be 100 minus your age because we've got all these 21-year-olds going, oh, I've done my birthday birthdays, why haven't you done yours? It's like, well, because you're 21 and I'm 57. But anyway, I've done them.
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Speaker 2: And how was your birthday aside from that shitty piece of it?
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Speaker 1: It was wonderful, thank you. I had the great– I love having a birthday on a Sunday and I did not look at my computer and I've got into a bad habit of just doing a bit of work all the time and so on Saturday I thought I'm not going to watch that. Friday night I watched my son play his final sort of concert at school. He did this jazz number. It was sensational. Saturday, no netball, went to the gym, went to the hairdresser. watched like six hours of footy on the couch. And it was great football too, both AFL and NRL. And then yesterday it was just like sleep in, breakfast in bed, great gifts. Then Pete and I went and did a cooking, a Japanese cooking class, which was fantastic. And then we made our own little bento boxes and then we had some sake with it. So I went home, it's one o'clock, we've had lunch, we've got a little bit of a buzz on. So it's like, let's have a snooze.
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Speaker 2: Oh, days don't get better.
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Speaker 1: Oh, it was so good. And then had family barbecue by the pool and it was just a magical Sydney day yesterday. And then there was some more football to watch. So it was great. It was really good. Thank you.
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Speaker 3: That's fabulous.
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Speaker 2: What are you specialising in now, Japanese-wise?
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Speaker 1: So agadashi tofu, I'm now really good at that.
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Speaker 2: Nice.
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Speaker 3: I'm just thinking last week we had the chat about what will we do on our party bus and we didn't put in a cooking class in there, which was not very smart, so I'd like to add that posthumously.
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Speaker 1: It's going to be a long day.
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Speaker 2: It's going to be a very long day.
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Speaker 1: Particularly if we have to be home by 8 o'clock.
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Speaker 2: Well, I suggest no sake drinking at the cooking class and then it might help. We have got no time in this day for an afternoon bath.
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Speaker 1: They didn't have it during. So every other cooking class I've been to, and I've been to a number of cooking classes that they set up as a corporate team-building exercise, which is terrific, but give me a glass of wine and then I'm just, I'm not going to learn anything the whole rest of the time. But I've done some cooking classes at the Sydney Seafood School. which is really good. And it's a great way to spend time with people because you learn something. So the Sydney Seafood School, you go and you sit in a– I don't know what it's like now. They've redone it. But you used to go and sit in a lecture room and they'd show it to you and then you'd go out into the kitchen and you'd be on a station. There's about four or six of you on one station. You cook it and then you take it into the dining room and you eat it. And, like, it's just– it's fabulous.
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Speaker 2: Little social activity.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, good fun.
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Speaker 3: I did a cooking class in Paris once. So when Matthew and I were there, I was like, right, let's do a cooking class. And they sent an email and they said, what do you want to cook? And I said, ah, fargois, which I know is not very cool. Anyway, we got there and there was a group of us and we didn't know any of them. And the person running the cooking class said, so somebody has asked to cook fargois. And who was that? And I've gone, me. I got eight of the stinkiest, stink-eyed, dirty looks.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Oh, it's me over here in my fur coat.
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Speaker 2: What do they all want to cook?
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Speaker 3: I don't know, but I'm like, well, if you don't say something, you don't get what you want, right? So I was like, well, I've never cooked foie gras and obviously you can't cook it.
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Speaker 2: Do you know how to make it?
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Speaker 1: I know that there's animal.
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Speaker 1: Cruelty issues questions around it but i don't know what happens between that so they overfeed the goose in order to make its liver really fatty and but i don't know then what happens oh.
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Speaker 3: Look this was quite some time ago and i will say i didn't understand the animal cruelty issues back then this was quite some time ago now i get it and i wouldn't ask for.
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Speaker 2: It um Have you made it since is the question.
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Speaker 3: No, of course I haven't. I've got nowhere near it. And French cooking is so precise. And then we made this other thing with like a strawberry jus. And we used like 15 putters of strawberry and we got about eight mil of this.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. And it was like.
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Speaker 3: Distilled strawberries, beautiful. I've never tasted anything like it, but I'm like, oh, man, I'd rather just eat the strawberries and get the fibre.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, or just go and buy it. That's expensive.
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Speaker 1: I'd like to know how to make a good French onion soup.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Because I think that is absolutely delicious. I did a cooking class in Thailand and the only reason I'm mentioning it is because Thailand, it's the sort of holiday that's somewhat like Bali. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: See, that's a segue.
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Speaker 1: I'm learning from Elizabeth.
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Speaker 3: And before Catherine asks anything, can I say... The amount of people who've said to me, oh, how was Bali? I didn't see you in any photos.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. She's, what's it, witness protection. We had to pixelate her face. Well, she had to just stand to the side.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I did not go to Bali. I would have loved to have gone. I hated seeing my friends there, including Catherine, but I had sports ball children responsibilities to do. So, Catherine, how was your holiday?
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Speaker 2: Oh, look, we all did too, but we left them at home.
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Speaker 1: But it also sounds like I don't think this will be the last opportunity to celebrate Catherine's 50th. Like, you know, we're two big events now and counting.
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Speaker 2: Oh, there's another coming. It's a festival off.
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Speaker 1: Love it.
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Speaker 2: You got it. How many times are we turning 50?
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Speaker 1: You know what everyone should do when they turn 50 is just be inducted into a Hall of Fame.
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Speaker 2: Well, that was actually nice because that was announced publicly the day I left. So that was a nice little start to the trip. But it was so fun. Just everything about it. Chill, but everything's so cheap. No one got sick. Gordie had an incident. We'll talk about that later. Gordie had an incident. Gordie had an incident. She's okay, though. She's okay. But it was just magic. You know, like everything's so cheap. So firstly, had breakfast made for us every day. We're staying in a villa. It was staffed. Very, very luxe. Not normal life. So I had the barley blues since I got back. Yeah. first to recognise that. And, you know, you get home, you're like, oh, what do you mean I've got to do my own washing and I don't get breakfast made for me and I can't just duck across the road once I get out of the pool and buy a $ 2 beer and then run back and jump in the pool again? Real life is tough.
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Speaker 1: Do you know what I've loved the most is when my friends who were expats and who lived in Southeast Asia and they had small children and then they had to come back to Australia and understand it's vastly different having small children living that you have to look after yourself all the time when you don't have helpers in the house.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was nice. But do you know what the most fascinating thing was?
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Speaker 1: This is the most bourgeois episode of.
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Speaker 2: This podcast we've ever done. I'm going to try and bring it down.
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Speaker 1: And domestic staff and villas.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's not the norm, is it? But I didn't plan on doing much shopping. But where I did go wrong is I walked into one of these big supermarkets and Gordie said the best thing about the villa, because Gordie chose all of this, I said, I want to go. This is how many people we'll have. Can you, given she knows it so well, can you find me some options? So when she was there, she was in and out of all these villas and finding it. So she found this great villa.
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Speaker 3: Oh, cool.
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Speaker 2: But it was all about the location as well, obviously, for her. So she had us near the biggest supermarket in Seminyak. Anyway, just for convenience.
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Speaker 1: That's such a middle-aged woman.
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Speaker 2: I know, I know, I know.
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Speaker 1: Location, location, location. Where is the biggest supermarket in Seminyak?
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Speaker 2: No, but it was so good because it had this massive beauty department. Anyway, walked in there one day and there's all these influencer types everywhere. with trolleys at the shelves, just certain products, filling trolleys. So I spent maybe an hour following these people around, taking whatever they took because I thought, shit, it must be good.
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Speaker 1: So what did you get?
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Speaker 2: Oh, like hair oils, amazing. Collagen, I don't know, serums and sunscreens, like the works.
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Speaker 1: So the sunscreens, though, you've got to be careful with because our sunscreens, when it says SPF 50, it is SPF 50. There are a lot of sunscreens that you can buy from around the world. I don't know these ones specifically, but it says SPF 50 and it might not be SPF at all.
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Speaker 2: That's like the handbags I found that are gutsy, not Gucci. But, no, it was incredible. Everything's so cheap. Yeah. Came back with a fair bit of excess baggage. But, no, it was good fun. Gordie organised. We had an actual birthday night on the Saturday night and she organised a guy to come in and just play his guitar.
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Speaker 1: Play, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Fantastic, and sing to us. So we had a few hours of that.
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Speaker 1: But she did that for one reason.
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Speaker 2: Oh, well, I don't know that she did so much as we made her. Right. Before he was about to leave. Like, Gordie, you've got to sing to us. You've got to sing to us. God, she's good.
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Speaker 3: She's got a great voice.
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Speaker 1: Such an overachiever.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, amazing.
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Speaker 2: So, no, it was all in all fabulous time.
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Speaker 1: She sang Oasis?
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Speaker 2: She sang Oasis, yes, and nailed it. Yeah. But, no, so we arrived and Gordie, when we first saw her, had this massive white patch on her knee with a big bandage around it. She had been there for a week already for a 60th. So she's just bringing it down a decade every week or so. Anyway, was walking just with some mates out shopping and there was a bit of sand on some tile. Completely sober too, must point that out because in Bali it's quite often not the case. Was walking and she slipped on a bit of sand on this tile and felt herself going backwards. So she was thinking, need to put my knee down and try and steady the ship here. Anyway, she put her knee on the ground and there was a broken tile and sliced the front of her knee off. Fourteen stitches. Oh. So this is a couple of days before we arrived. So the poor thing couldn't swim the whole time we were there. It was on antibiotics at the back end so it could hardly drink either. And then combine that with the fact that every five seconds one of us was saying, Gordie, Rose, where's the best place for blah and blah? And blah, they were constantly just tour guides for us, so I cannot thank them enough. They would have needed a holiday after us.
00:11:25
Speaker 3: Well, what Gordie did get after you guys was inducted.
00:11:28
Speaker 2: Yes.
00:11:30
Speaker 3: Yes.
00:11:31
Speaker 2: Well, she had to come home early. She wasn't coming home until the Wednesday, but then found out her Order of Australia and Vestiture Ceremony was on the Wednesday and flew home.
00:11:41
Speaker 3: Didn't the photo, she looked like the Chessie cat, didn't she? She was so happy. It was great. And she had the barley tan happening and all and no sign of the bandage.
00:11:49
Speaker 1: No sign of a bandage or any blood seeping through or anything. So that was good. Yeah, congratulations. Susan Jane Gordian.
00:11:55
Speaker 2: I know, how good. She did say she was one of only four or five women in the whole group.
00:12:01
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:12:03
Speaker 2: Amazing.
00:12:03
Speaker 1: Well, even that, women are getting out of hand. Liz, do you need to make some apologies to some men?
00:12:08
Speaker 3: Oh, look, always, always just getting at it. But no, just generally. No, I was just thinking though, like I've only nominated one person. You know, you can go into the website and you can nominate people for AMs or like for that. And I nominated a woman who lives in Ballina who is one of my mum's friends and she's amazing. She just fundraisers. Like she's in her 90s and she fundraisers and, you know, she's an amazing community person. And one of the things that I keep seeing and I keep getting messages about is if you know a great woman, then nominate her for these things because, like, the Australia Day Council can't just go and find people. They've got to be nominated.
00:12:46
Speaker 2: Yes.
00:12:46
Speaker 3: So nominate a woman.
00:12:48
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely.
00:12:49
Speaker 3: That's great, Liz.
00:12:50
Speaker 1: That is a really helpful, you know, we've talked about trying to adjust, you know, influence the algorithm, but this is actually these Australia Day Awards and People can only get them if they get nominated.
00:13:02
Speaker 3: Yes, and I think that people think that you have to be, like, well-known or a celebrity. But this lady, Mary, she's amazing. And I thought she needs to be recognised. So if it's someone who has been an amazing coach, like a lot of the people who have got the Win Beneath Our Wings Awards for us over the last couple of years, you could go and nominate them and they would be amazing like that. So go and do it. It's not difficult. You just have to get a few referees. You've got to list out what they do and you can't really tell them that you're doing it because it's supposed to be a bit secret. But absolutely go and do it because it's so worthwhile.
00:13:37
Speaker 1: And actually part of the purpose of it is to acknowledge the people doing stuff that they don't get paid for. So it's not about... you know, celebrities or whatever. It is about trying to find a way to show thanks and recognition to all of these people who keep the country moving by just doing stuff for no thanks and no reward and whatever and adding their expertise and mentoring younger people. So I think that's really good. We should, as a dribble nation, be really making a point of going, let's get behind this nominations process. Let's think about all of these people who are keeping our game alive at the community level. Maybe they would like more than a shitty scrunchie. Who knows?
00:14:27
Speaker 2: Don't talk stupid.
00:14:30
Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to have a little break and come back and talk about some knit balls.
00:14:34
Speaker 3: Knit balls.
00:14:47
Speaker 1: Okay, so this is a fabulous time of year. I did say earlier on there's not a lot of netball. There is some amazing netball. And last week we talked at length about the World Cup qualifiers going on. So Tonga and Samoa have qualified for the World Cup. So well done. And we have the World Cup qualifiers in Africa that's going on at the moment and will be done by about the end of this week. But on the weekend in Melbourne at Parkville at the State Netball Centre was the First Nations tournament and it's held for the third time and it went down to the wire.
00:15:25
Speaker 3: So that final between Queensland and WA, yeah, was amazing. And I watched the last few minutes online and Queensland, spoiler alert, Queensland won, but it was even and then probably the last 30 seconds, Queensland just played the ball around. And the MVP for that game was Kayla Cubby. And she was a goal shooter. And she was so calm, like so amazing. So calm, just ran out of the circle, got the ball, distributed it, ran back, ran out. It was so good to watch. And you could just see that like everyone else around her, she was sort of playing at a different speed to everybody else. She had all the time in the world. thinking about things and then just like slotted a coxie long bomb goal to win the game in the dying seconds. It was amazing. Yeah, it was great. Great netball.
00:16:15
Speaker 1: So Kayla Cubby, that's a name that we should probably expect to be hearing more of over the next couple of years, hey?
00:16:20
Speaker 2: Well, listening to that, she's given Joe Harton vibes. Mm-hmm.
00:16:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.
00:16:24
Speaker 2: The way you describe her. Wow.
00:16:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Queensland defeated Western Australia and obviously Western Australia would be feeling very disappointed at that. But no one really expected them on paper to make it as far as they did. So it was a spectacular experience. from them. They defeated New South Wales on percentage to get into the finals there. And Western Australia had actually defeated Queensland in the pool rounds there.
00:16:49
Speaker 2: Oh, what a great tournament.
00:16:51
Speaker 1: Absolutely. And last year, I don't know if you remember this one, but last year New South Wales won it by a one-goal thriller in extra time over Queensland.
00:17:01
Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
00:17:02
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:17:03
Speaker 1: And this is like they played... seven rounds plus finals over the course of a weekend. So that's like half a Super Netball season played over the course of a weekend. Yeah. It's the third year of the First Nations tournament. So Queensland won it in 2024, New South Wales in 2025, Queensland in 2026. So, yeah, I think it's a– these tournaments are amazing opportunities to go along see a lot of really high-quality netball in one place over one weekend. You know, we all talk about hoping the Team Girls Cup comes back at some stage, but these are, this is the equivalent of the Team Girls Cup at just the next level down, the future stars of the game.
00:17:51
Speaker 2: Well done. Come on, New South next year.
00:17:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, you know, maybe South Australia would like to win it.
00:17:59
Speaker 2: No, we don't need to encourage that behaviour.
00:18:02
Speaker 1: I'd like to see maybe Tassie get up and have a win. That'd be good. The Lutrawidja, I believe. I may have mispronounced their team name. But, yeah. So, anyway, we should get around these tournaments. And Kayla Cubby, let's keep an eye on her, hey?
00:18:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's great. I was really pleased just to see, like, a lot of these kids, Sharon Finn and White has had a bit to do with them through the Queensland pathways. So... It's great. And it's a way for these young women to not just represent their culture, but to form really important cultural connections, you know, as they come through the pathways. And I think that's just super important. So there's so many different things that this tournament achieves. And yep, the netball was great. And it was unbelievable to see that final and the way Queensland wound the clock down, but to see all the other things that happened around and outside of it. is phenomenal as well. So it's great.
00:18:54
Speaker 2: And another great platform to be able to get your eyes on these athletes too, right?
00:18:59
Speaker 3: Yeah, 100%.
00:19:00
Speaker 1: And I'm guessing that a number of them will start to show up in Super Netball in the next couple of years in training partners or 11th player positions. And Bec Pollard from the Swifts has sent me some more information on how the 11th player and the training partner system works. Shall I read that, Liz, or did you want to say something more there?
00:19:19
Speaker 3: And I was going to say Scarlett Jaunce is one of those young players, right? She's come through that First Nations pathway and she's been in the Australian 21s. And so she's a player who will, I think, come through into Super Netball in years to come. And she got to play through this First Nations tournament pathway. So she's a really good example of it.
00:19:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, great. Anyway, so thank you, Bec, for sending me this information. So at the risk of dragging the 11th player slash training partner conversation out even further, In addition to jared's very insightful contribution to the discussion on last week's podcast and if you remember yeah he was sent me some information after i just threw a question out to the universe i think there's one very key piece of information that's been left out but that changes the context of the 11th player versus training partner in short aside from the qualifying criteria and 11th player must meet from memory there are three athlete must meet two of them. The main difference between an 11th player and a training partner is the 11th player can be named in the game, game day 10 at any time. So a player from the contracted 10 can be dropped based on form or tactically and the 11th player can take their position. So they don't have to wait for one of those 10 to fall over with injury. They can bring that 11th player in at any time. A training partner can only be in the game day 10 as a temporary or permanent injury, illness, pregnancy, et cetera, replacement, and this obviously needs to be approved on each occasion by the league to verify the illness, injury, et cetera. So selection of an 11th player is a very tactical decision as they are essentially at your disposal as a coach to use at will throughout the season. I would imagine athletes who can swing from a midcourt to a goal position would be prime targets for coaches depending on the balance of your contracted 10.
00:21:02
Speaker 2: Well done, Bec Pollard. Very interesting stuff.
00:21:06
Speaker 1: Getting smarter.
00:21:07
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. It is good to know, isn't it, because it's the ins and outs and the planning, the planning around picking a roster and then with all the balls in the air, just add so much.
00:21:19
Speaker 1: More to it, doesn't it? It was crazy, this everyone off contract period, wasn't it? Because it's like you can have all the plans that you like, but there were– Eight plans in play competing for the same players. It's sort of nice to take a bit of a breath now and go, what do the teams look like? Tipping's going to be tough though, isn't it?
00:21:37
Speaker 2: I don't even want to think about it.
00:21:40
Speaker 3: I can't even.
00:21:41
Speaker 2: Exactly.
00:21:42
Speaker 3: I've got to get through Christmas first.
00:21:44
Speaker 2: Yeah. Toss a coin.
00:21:45
Speaker 1: Well, every minute we talk, we get closer to Christmas. Let's have a little break and then come back and I don't know what we're going to talk about in the third segment, but one of you has something that you and I just haven't written it down.
00:21:56
Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah.
00:22:10
Speaker 1: I have a pen in my hand at all times and I didn't use it.
00:22:13
Speaker 2: I've got something I'll start with.
00:22:15
Speaker 1: You've got something to start with.
00:22:16
Speaker 2: Elizabeth Ellis on the way to Bali binge watched Ted Lasso. It is so good.
00:22:24
Speaker 3: Yes, it's great, isn't it?
00:22:26
Speaker 2: I wanted Ted Lasso in my life. Yeah. He's tops.
00:22:31
Speaker 3: He is so good, isn't he?
00:22:32
Speaker 2: Oh, I loved it.
00:22:33
Speaker 3: So how far did you get through it?
00:22:36
Speaker 2: The whole first season. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
00:22:39
Speaker 3: So he's fabulous, but you need like to, you sort of have to keep, remember that he's a little bit emotionally stunted in the first part.
00:22:46
Speaker 2: Right.
00:22:46
Speaker 3: So he's all, you know, happy and all, you know, front or low, but, I remember watching and going, okay, what does he do when things aren't right? And you sort of see that towards the end and that gets developed. But how amazing is it that did you write much of it down?
00:23:01
Speaker 1: No.
00:23:01
Speaker 3: They're like all these little sayings.
00:23:03
Speaker 2: Flashbacks for when you two were talking about stuff and throwing quotes around. I'll be in on the joke now. But I loved it. I can't wait to watch the next few series, yeah?
00:23:15
Speaker 3: Who's your favourite character so far?
00:23:17
Speaker 2: Oh.
00:23:18
Speaker 1: I love, oh, my God, I'm.
00:23:19
Speaker 2: Going to forget his name. He started as like the drinks guy.
00:23:24
Speaker 1: Nate the Great.
00:23:25
Speaker 2: Yes, Nate. I love him.
00:23:26
Speaker 1: I love them all.
00:23:29
Speaker 3: They're all good. Oh, Catherine, I can't wait for you to keep watching.
00:23:33
Speaker 1: I can't wait for you to keep watching too and see the rise and rise of some of these characters. We won't talk about it now.
00:23:41
Speaker 2: Okay, don't, don't.
00:23:42
Speaker 1: No, I'm glad. Welcome, welcome on board.
00:23:43
Speaker 2: But thank you for that No Dribble recommends like a year ago.
00:23:47
Speaker 1: Oh, good.
00:23:48
Speaker 2: Well, welcome.
00:23:49
Speaker 1: There's four seasons now I think, aren't there?
00:23:51
Speaker 2: Oh, God, really?
00:23:52
Speaker 1: I'm not up to the fourth. I am up to date on– Colin from Accounts though, have you guys seen it, the end of it?
00:23:57
Speaker 2: So great. Oh, no.
00:23:59
Speaker 1: So without spoiling anything, I reckon they did, you know, very few TV series finish properly. They never have you go away going, I'm so sad that's over, but gee, you did a great job of it. And I thought they did a fabulous job of finishing it in a way that really honoured what they had built the whole way along. They didn't sort of, there weren't any cheap outs or anything you know, big bows tied on storylines and things, but there were, you know, it felt a very satisfying ending.
00:24:32
Speaker 2: Why do they have to finish, though? I know. As soon as you find something good.
00:24:36
Speaker 1: Because they've got little kids and Patrick Brown's career is going off the charts. There's a new show. He looks like he's in quite a serious show that was advertised recently. And also the other person who's in that is Brendan Cowell, who looks quite like Patrick Bramwell. But Brendan Cowell has written a great book called Plum.
00:24:57
Speaker 3: I've read it.
00:24:57
Speaker 1: It's really, what?
00:25:02
Speaker 2: Hook, line and sinker.
00:25:05
Speaker 1: Oh, you haven't read it.
00:25:06
Speaker 2: Oh, brilliant.
00:25:11
Speaker 3: That was way too easy.
00:25:13
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, so you haven't. I thought it was so funny.
00:25:15
Speaker 2: No, no.
00:25:16
Speaker 1: But it's about a retired rugby league player and you don't need to like rugby league to enjoy this. It's a beautiful story of a man getting older. It was really well worth watching. And I think it's been turned into a TV series.
00:25:30
Speaker 2: Oh.
00:25:30
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:25:33
Speaker 3: I will go and find that and read it. Catherine, however, will probably not. But it's interesting with Ted Lasso, when you get to the end of the third season, like they try and wrap it up. And I just assumed it was done because they always said there was only, it was always a three season arc. And obviously it's done so well for themselves that they've come back. So I'm looking forward to seeing how they pick up after you thought all the loose ends had been all tied up.
00:25:56
Speaker 2: Does it become quite repetitive given, I mean, how much can you do the, I'm guessing, relatively the same kind of storyline?
00:26:05
Speaker 3: No, but it's interesting. I think I said this last week that Series 1, my 10-year-old son was hooked because there was lots of football and Series 2, it becomes more about the drama and the relationships. He's like, oh, where's the football? I'm like, mate, this is not about football. This is about learning how to swear. Get with the program.
00:26:22
Speaker 1: This is the swearing show.
00:26:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
00:26:25
Speaker 3: This is a sweary show. But, yeah, Patrick Bramall looks amazing in this drama-y one that he's doing.
00:26:33
Speaker 1: Oh, I just looked up what it's called and I've immediately forgotten.
00:26:37
Speaker 3: Have I told you guys my Patrick Bramall story?
00:26:39
Speaker 1: How's menopause going, Carolyn?
00:26:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, great. Have I told you my Patrick Bramall story at the Logies? Have I brought you with this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love that.
00:26:49
Speaker 1: Remind me.
00:26:50
Speaker 3: Oh, I just went up to him at the Logies and I forgot. He didn't know me because I'd watched the first series of Colin from Accounts a few years ago. And I ran up to him. I'm like, oh, my God, I just love you.
00:27:00
Speaker 2: And he looked at.
00:27:01
Speaker 3: Me like I was an idiot. And I'm like, eh. Oh, yes, you have told us that.
00:27:05
Speaker 1: It's called Last Scene and it's on Apple TV. Yeah, it looks.
00:27:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be why I would have seen it because every time I was watching Ted Lasso with the kids, he keeps coming up.
00:27:18
Speaker 1: Well, I'm looking forward to a report on that one. But, yes, read Brendan Cowell's book, Plum. It was very good. Liz, I did actually have a few people contact me. last week, who tried to go and buy your mate Nye's book.
00:27:31
Speaker 3: Nye's book.
00:27:32
Speaker 1: It's not out until the end of September.
00:27:34
Speaker 3: Oh, that's next week. What is it? What's the 21st? Okay, you've only got nine days to wait.
00:27:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like a week ago it was two weeks. So people were jumping on board with these things.
00:27:44
Speaker 2: Oh, well done, dribblers.
00:27:46
Speaker 1: Yes. But so I did give an alternative because someone was saying, oh, I really wanted the recommendation for my book club and I gave the recommendation of The Heir Apparent by Rebecca Armitage. Australian author, very interesting imagining of a world where a member of the royal family wants to step out of being a royal princess and be a doctor in Tasmania. Great story. It's not something that I would expect that I would enjoy, but it's really well written and entertaining.
00:28:15
Speaker 2: So Julie Fitzgerald won't read that then?
00:28:16
Speaker 1: She won't read it because she doesn't read fiction.
00:28:18
Speaker 2: I found that fascinating. I had a big chuckle. Only biographies, autobiographies.
00:28:27
Speaker 3: That's the whole point of reading is to get away from real life.
00:28:31
Speaker 1: It's like saying I don't want to watch a movie because it hasn't happened. It's like, yeah, but that's sort of the point is that it's like, hmm.
00:28:36
Speaker 3: That is a whole point. So the heir apparent, is it H-E-I-R as opposed to heir, A-I-R?
00:28:42
Speaker 1: It's not about Shane Warne's foray into Ashley and Martin advertising.
00:28:48
Speaker 3: Okay.
00:28:52
Speaker 1: Well, I reckon, no, actually I've got one more quick dilemma for you. So last weekend while you were in Bali, I was down in Canberra with my nearest and dearest and I had a gig on Saturday night. But we were talking, one of the discussions that we had over the course of that discussion is one of the girls, her husband needs to have a hip replacement, but he wants to take the hip home with him. And one of my female friends said, yeah, I totally get it.
00:29:22
Speaker 2: It's mine.
00:29:23
Speaker 1: I want it. I want to take it home with me. She's got her wisdom teeth. And it's like, why?
00:29:27
Speaker 2: Why?
00:29:29
Speaker 1: On God's green earth, would you want to have a part of your body somewhere in your house?
00:29:36
Speaker 2: Like I don't– Doesn't it disintegrate anyway though? Like how long is that lasting or is that going to be a– I mean I know skeletons are the last thing standing.
00:29:44
Speaker 1: What are you going to do with it? Yeah, skeletons take a while. Like I mean it's sort of, you know, and I understand why the law is that you have to get– like this has to stay at the hospital. Like it's human waste. It needs to be replaced. disposed of properly and you can't have these things falling into nefarious hands or whatever. But I couldn't get over how they were having this conversation like it was a perfectly normal thing that if you have a hip replacement, you should be allowed to take your hip home with you.
00:30:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I don't understand that.
00:30:15
Speaker 2: Are we talking one side like a socket or are we talking like the whole thing? It's not the pelvis.
00:30:21
Speaker 1: It's not the pelvis.
00:30:22
Speaker 2: So it's not big.
00:30:23
Speaker 1: No, but does that make a difference?
00:30:25
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because you've got to think about storage. Where's his hip going.
00:30:29
Speaker 3: To hang out?
00:30:30
Speaker 1: I don't think it would make a difference to me whether it was the tiny little thing I could lose or it's like I don't want that.
00:30:36
Speaker 2: Well, I keep teeth.
00:30:38
Speaker 3: That's disgusting. I was about to say I kept my kids' first tooth that they lost and a lock of hair and then I put Evelyn's away and then it was in like a little silver box and And I found it recently. I opened it up and I'm like, oh, my God, that's like human relics. It's like teeth and hair. So good.
00:30:55
Speaker 2: I know.
00:30:56
Speaker 3: It's like a bit weird. But at the time I was like, oh, that's her first haircut.
00:31:02
Speaker 1: That's because of the oxytocin, right? You've got all of this coursing through your body. It's this love hormone that happens when you have a baby. And it's the reason that when you've not slept in six weeks and you're so exhausted and this thing's screaming at you that your response is, I love you, rather than, can you piss off and leave me alone, please, you know, and that's what it is. And so then things like I cried when my son got his first haircut, which is deeply embarrassing but also very, very normal. But have you seen those? You can buy a gift for people when they have a baby. There's a little thing you can get and it's like the shape of a mouth and you keep each tooth.
00:31:41
Speaker 2: Oh, no. Each one in order.
00:31:43
Speaker 1: And it's like the shape of a mouth. and you can write the date that they lost it. It's like, what do you do with that? Oh, no.
00:31:51
Speaker 2: I just like to tip them out and try and work it out. Recreate the victim. Your Honour. Yeah. Well, maybe he felt as passionately about his hip. No judgement.
00:32:02
Speaker 1: That is fascinating, though, if you ever see a skull of a child because their adult teeth are there behind. They've got two rows of teeth all there because it's like they're... Wow. Yeah, and it really sort of looks like alien.
00:32:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow.
00:32:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is crazy.
00:32:20
Speaker 2: Where have we ended up? What's happening to this podcast?
00:32:22
Speaker 3: Well, it's funny. I was talking to Evelyn the other day to... Well, she's 14 now, so she's doing all this sort of stuff in science. And she was like, did you know that when... If you've got a daughter inside your womb, all of her eggs are already in her. So you've got your grandchildren. You carry your grandchildren. She's like, so once upon a time, me and Austin were inside Nanny. I'm like, I mean, I knew that from when I wrote my book about infertility, but I'd never personalised it before. I was like, oh, my God, that's amazing.
00:32:53
Speaker 1: Isn't that phenomenal? It's so incredible.
00:32:56
Speaker 2: That's why my mum, any time my daughter does anything, my mum said, well, Well, hang on a minute. I get where you're coming from. You did create me that created her.
00:33:06
Speaker 1: So is this when she does good things that your mother is taking?
00:33:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it doesn't happen often.
00:33:11
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:33:12
Speaker 3: Oh, but that's great things. Oh, that is funny. But, yeah, like so do you know when the thing is though, like when people like your mother wants to blame you for your parents acting up, it's like actually they started with you. It's your issue.
00:33:23
Speaker 1: That's right.
00:33:24
Speaker 2: That's when you flip it on its head. Has she dissected frogs or anything yet at school? When does that happen? No.
00:33:31
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I don't know that we can talk about Fargois and Vivisection in the same podcast without being totally cancelled.
00:33:38
Speaker 2: Were you guys okay with that when you had to do it at school?
00:33:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was fine. Were you?
00:33:43
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I think I was fine from memory, but I remember a lot of people not being.
00:33:47
Speaker 1: My mum was a biology teacher when I was sort of five or six and I remember having to go drive with her to this place. It felt like it was ages away on the outskirts of Brisbane. to pick up all the rats that were like pinned out on the boards. And like at that age it was just a deeply spooky, creepy thing that it's like we've got all of these frozen dead animals.
00:34:10
Speaker 2: And they're pre-pinned.
00:34:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. But teachers are amazing, aren't they? They're forever doing stuff in their own time and out of their own money and things to make the education system, you know, stay afloat. Hug a teacher today. Yes, absolutely.
00:34:27
Speaker 2: I don't think you're allowed to do that anymore.
00:34:29
Speaker 1: Well, you're allowed to if they say that you're allowed to. All right, I think we've descended into chaos here, as you say, with foie gras and vivisection. Is this a netball podcast? Kind of. It's also whatever we want to talk about. But it's great to have you back, Catherine. It's nice to be back. We loved having Julie here last week, but it's really nice to have you back. But we will be back on Wednesday. On Friday? Friday. Today's Wednesday. Today's Monday. I don't know. You know, everything is going wrong. I forgot what segment we were doing. Maybe I need another coffee.
00:35:03
Speaker 2: But.
00:35:04
Speaker 1: Share this podcast with a friend. We do have 25% of tickets left for the Constellation Cup Eve event, so go to nodribble.com.au for the link to where you can buy your tickets. It is shaping up to be the funnest one that we have ever had.
00:35:21
Speaker 2: Bryony Akel will be there. Yes, absolutely. She's very excited. Megan Anderson is a very good chance of being there as well. Oh, that's exciting. We may have another very, very special guest.
00:35:32
Speaker 3: So... You need to be there.
00:35:34
Speaker 1: And Alex, our producer, who everyone hears this talk about every week, she'll be joining us there that night because, of course, Alex and I met through stand-up comedy. She is a very, very accomplished and funny stand-up comedian. So everyone gets to, you know, meet all the celebs.
00:35:49
Speaker 2: Alex should do our welcome. You know how we have in the past had a comedian do a welcome? Yeah, that's right. Alex should do it.
00:35:55
Speaker 1: She is.
00:35:56
Speaker 3: Oh, she is?
00:35:56
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, brilliant.
00:35:57
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Happy days.
00:35:59
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:35:59
Speaker 3: Finally.
00:36:00
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:36:01
Speaker 1: Thank you. Please write all future ideas down on a piece of paper and hand them to me.
00:36:06
Speaker 2: Share them. All right.
00:36:07
Speaker 3: Well, thanks for joining us.
00:36:08
Speaker 1: My name's Carolyn Swindell.
00:36:09
Speaker 2: I'm Kath Cox.
00:36:10
Speaker 3: I'm Liz Ellis, and I'm so pleased that Coxie is back with a tan that doesn't smell.
00:36:14
Speaker 2: Yes. None more than this one.
00:36:16
Speaker 1: You know the office stank for... Three days.
00:36:19
Speaker 3: I know because you kept texting us.
00:36:21
Speaker 2: Oh, good. Was it nice, though, to remember me when I wasn't here?
00:36:25
Speaker 1: I never forget you, Catherine. There's no danger I'll forget you, so I don't need your stinky fake hand. Bye. Bye.
