Nightcap - Hour 1: Tomlin names Russ the starter, Jerry praises Dak, Sean McDermott's bulljive

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Speaker 3: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us again for another episode of Nightcap.

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Speaker 2: Hon A. Reed Bengals pro bowler, All Pro multiple.

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Speaker 3: Times, Yeah, la yeah, League in receiving yardage a couple of times.

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Speaker 5: Lead the AFC, second player, only the second player they ever do so, lead the AFC four years in a row in receiving yards But go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Chad O Yo Singo Johnson. Please please make sure you subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed. You can listen to us through the night through the Club Chase he feed, but we would greatly appreciate it if you sign up through the Nightcap podcast feed. Fan Uh, thank you guys for selling out Shay by Laportier. We have pinned the link at the top of the chat. We're only taking pre orders now. We got a shipment in and we should be able to fulfill all orders that are placed. Thank you, thank you so much for selling us out. But we have pinned the link at the top of the chat and we should be able to accommodate you because of the shipment that we just received. So thank you very much, and let's jump right into it, oh Jo. Our first segment of the day is a news caps We learned over the weekends the Chiefs are trading Lagerius Sneed to the Tennessee Titans for a twenty twenty five third round pick. We know Lagerius Sneed had one of the better uh had one of the better seasons this year for defensive back, although he was not rewarded for it with a Pro Bowl or an All Pro selection. Just look at what he was able to do against some of the top receivers that the Kansas City Chiefs face.

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Speaker 2: And that's big for itself.

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Speaker 3: But it seems to me a lot of Chief fans are upset because they didn't get more that. It's like, if you'll only get a third forum, you might as well keep it. But oh Joey looks, I think from my from my vantage point, because.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't have a Pro Bowl on his resume.

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Speaker 3: Because he doesn't have an All Pro in this resume, he wasn't gonna command the ransom that team gave up for Jalen Ramsey. What a team gave up for Stefan Gilmore had he had one of those pelts on his resume. Now we're talking the first, first or late second round, excuse me, a late first or second round pick.

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Speaker 2: But because he didn't.

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Speaker 3: He got that solely because he's been very, very good, and the Chiefs wanted to reward him. He's been a model citizen in their organization. And I don't want him just grunld playing on the franchise tag knowing that we can't pay him. Ain't ain't no sense in enough schooling to say, hey, if you just played this year, Fords on the franchise tag, we'll take care of your next year. They know that he knows that. Let him move on. You got three Super bowls out of him. I don't really know what else you could ask. He's been great for you on and off the field. So I think it was a great trade for them and I'm happy for him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm happy for him as well. Obviously to me, I think he's one of the top three chats. Stay with me real quick here. I think he's one of the top three cover man and man corners in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Man and man, I don't need no help.

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Speaker 5: If I need to follow your best receiver the entire game, all four quarters, I can do that. He's one of those that will allow the Dems coordinator for the Tennessee Titans to be able to do more defensively because he can lock down one side of one side of the field and not needs safety's help or need any goddamn any, any bluffing and all this salad dressing that defenses due.

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Speaker 1: You know what, you got number ten all game.

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Speaker 5: He's able to do that. I'm happy for him. He has the Super Bowl rings. Now you've been compensated for the.

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Speaker 1: Work you put in.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, now you're getting that check. Now you can play the game you love. Your family is set, and you're good, right good. There's really nothing to complain about it. And the Kansasity Chiefs understood that there's no way whether he had a whether he had a Pro Bowl, whether he had an all pro. We know the type of caliber play is once you turn that guy damn film.

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Speaker 1: That film on. Yes, and the Tennessee Titan knew that as well.

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Speaker 3: And so what, oh, we're gonna play it. So now he has an even better season. He goes to the Pro Bowl, he becomes an All pro. If you couldn't play him this year with none of those on his reps, I mean, how the hell you're gonna pay him next year with those on his resume?

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Speaker 2: So I agree with.

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Speaker 3: You, o cho, And so this, you know, I like to like tell guys this. Okay, you got your rings. It's kind of like a normal person that works in nine to five. You made all the money, and now go do what you like to do. Okay, he's got the super Bowl rings. Now let's see how much money you can go make because you got the jewelry. Now let's see if I can secure my family, family, family right for multiple multiple generations.

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Speaker 2: So congratulations, he had the big play against the Ravens. Got them.

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Speaker 3: Hey, he got up first of all, he gave up a play. Then the guy stood up. Oh the guy stood up over him, zay flyers. Remember he stood up over him. That backed him up. He Zay Flowers come back runs the shallow cross, Lugarious punches that out on the goal line, touch back ball comes out and the Kansas City really never really felt threatened after that point. And then you remember Oho in the what was that in the wildcard game with Divisional in a the vision when he got that quick jam on on Tyreek? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that quick jam of that freezer get you.

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Speaker 2: If you ain't o yo, listen.

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Speaker 1: You bet you better be dipping.

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Speaker 5: You better be dipping that show the one way or another, because once you quick jamming, he watching the ball, there's really nothing you can do because as a receiver, I asked got to be inside looking at the.

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Speaker 3: Ball, especially because you're on the road so you can't hear. You gotta look see the nothing. And if I'm Tyreek, how many times you think somebody tried to put hands on Tyreek and run the risk of missing him and he do this too?

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, not not very many, not very many. But you know, you know they play that soft shell too. Now, you know they play that soft shell. So he's willing to get up there and challenge like that, knowing that he does have a little help behind him, but neither here nor that you never ever ever really see anybody get their hands on regardless whether it's help behind him or not.

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Speaker 3: Butler jerious is he's the best I've seen it this in the New School Now, guys did a lot. That was something that did did a lot because you had to get physical because I believe the receivers were a little bit more physical.

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Speaker 2: And you had to play through contact because.

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Speaker 3: They allowed the dB to be a little more handsy than what they do now, So you had to play through that contact. So guys had to quick dram you because you didn't want one of those guys to get ahead of steam and you got heml on your hands trying to get him down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. But uh, And the.

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Speaker 3: Question is, oh, Joe, how much did this trade impact the Chiefs the chances of pre pet.

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't think it impacts them at all. I don't think it impacts them at all. They still have a nice core of defensive backs there. I think someone else is just going to step up and sneeze place obviously. I think they're probably going to be able to draft. Well, that's something that Andy reading that organization has always done extremely well on the defensive side of the ball and the offensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: But again, the.

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Speaker 5: Pieces to the puzzle, only one piece really matters, that centerpiece, that nucleus. As long as mahomes are still there, they're going to always be in contention. Have to remember that this is the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, this.

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Speaker 5: Is the NFL driven league that is run by the quarterback position. Having pieces around, having a great corner and all that stuff. It's fine and dandy, but Spags will do the job he needs to do with the players that he has. And obviously you might not be able to do some of the things though, you might not have a lugerious sneed on your hands, but you're able to condense that around different, not formations, different How do you say it, how do you see it? You know how you can only hide your players so much. Yeah, yeah, so they're not exposed. Bags knows what he can and can't call based on the personnel that he has.

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Speaker 1: I'll put it like that.

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Speaker 3: I think also, if you look at McDuffie, who was a first team All Pro corner, Jalen Watson, who's the nickel, was the start of it for McDuffie got there, So you don't feel that if we have to start Jalen Watson. Then I don't feel that the obviously there's some but we're like, hey, he started for us the Lion's year of the season a year ago and we went to in one of Super Bowl, So we have to put him in. And you are Joshua Williams, whether I think a high draft pick for the Chiefs. The Chiefs, Brett Beach and as you mentioned, Ojo have done a great job of drafting. You look at their drafted players, Coloptus, you look at McDuffie, Brian Cook, Joshua Williams, you look at some of the guys that they've drafted, Rashie Rice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been great.

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Speaker 3: Now the only thing is Scott Moore's got to take the next step.

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Speaker 2: This is his third year, O Joe, he's a junior.

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Speaker 1: Net Hey, this to make it break a year. This should make it break a year.

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Speaker 5: If you're going to arrive on the scene for any position, whether it be quarterback, whether it be dB, whether it be tacko, center, linebacker, this is your year. This is your year because at this point now you should have had it figured out. Yeah, you should have had it figured out. The speed of the game, the offense. There are no more excuses. Once you ate your third year, you got the hit the You got to hit the floor running.

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Speaker 1: You got to hit it running.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So they still have their nucleus.

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Speaker 3: They have CJ, they have My Homeboy, they have Andy, they have trials for check O Checko. There. They're gonna They're gonna be It's interesting to see what they're gonna do with McKennon. Uh, he's the third about third down back really do everything, can catch out of the backfield, does a great job of blizz pick up. It's gonna be interesting. I don't think he was gonna get more than a one year deal. The question is does he want to be that one year to be in Kansas City or be somewhere else, all things being equal, if the money is comparable. I'm coming back because I know I'm gonna win. I know my role, I know what to expect. So it's gonna be very very interesting to see what happens with him. But congratulations to Lagarious sneed job well done, earned the big payday.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah wait wait, wait before you even going owhere or even going nowhere, I know the Jerry Steed. I know you're gonna see this. And I've done this to to all dvs and all receivers. You know, I play both sides of the ball. So if you really want to get some work in, if you want to get some work in this off season, to make sure you go in the camp, you're going to go onto the O.

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Speaker 1: T A's on point. You know I'm available.

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Speaker 5: We can do some one on ones and we the one on ones that I do, it's old school one of the ones. We start on the goal line and we do as many ross as possible to we get to the opposite side of the field, and that's the kind of work we get in. We take a five minute break, then we bring it on back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: That that's that's that's a different kind of workout. And you ship you crazy crazy. Listen, listen, listen. His last name won't his last name won't be Snead. If he covered me, you hear me? Yeah, because I'm not the one other two he got some he got something for you.

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Speaker 1: No, no, he don't.

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Speaker 3: He goes that little back that hey, I'll tell it what you hot, Let me tell you what are you gonna do now? When he will try to open you up, he goes try to run a quick stand on you. So this right there, I'm not you know what.

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Speaker 5: In the matter of fact, I'm gonna hop and I'm gonna take off.

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Speaker 1: Huh, I'm I'm hopping. I'm gonna take off.

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Speaker 2: Hold on you in the goal line where you go at fieldth throw?

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Speaker 5: Who said we was on the goal line. We start on the goal line, work our way out out.

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Speaker 3: Not in.

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Speaker 2: I thought you said start the goal line, then go you know, go back.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we started the goal line.

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Speaker 1: We do.

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Speaker 5: That's the way I used to do my one on ones in the off season. I started on the on the goal line. You play man and man, you could play off either way. And we and we moved the ball down the field wherever I catch it. That's when we started the next rep. And I never can never go deep. I ran nothing deep ever. So from one to six.

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Speaker 3: Guess what, I'm gonna go ahead and pick it and I'm done with you for the day.

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Speaker 2: What I would do, I'm gohad, pick it. I'm done with you.

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Speaker 1: Pick who.

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Speaker 3: Off?

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Speaker 1: Pick pick your nose? Man, ain't picking up you, ain't picking off hill. He just just ay snead. I know you're gonna see the boy. You want some some real work, real work.

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Speaker 3: It didn't be hitting the prime on you to the end zone, Oh, Joe, Mike Thomas said, Russell Wilson is in the pole position at quarterback, and the team has been transparent in the pecking order when it comes to letting fields know that he'll have a chance to compete when they feel it's.

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Speaker 2: The right Is it it is the right time?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Wilson has a lot of experience in terms of what it takes to be the guy with the course of a twelve month calendar. I just think there's something to a younger guy that vote that like Justin can learn from. Tomlin said, Okay, the pecking order, pole position, that means you've earned the right to be in the number one slot to.

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Speaker 2: Be the starter.

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Speaker 3: That don't mean that's the way it's gonna end up now, that's right, that's right now.

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Speaker 5: So now, what kind of leash is Mike Tomlin giving him? How long is the leash? Is it a short leash or is it a long leash? Is it a medium sized leash?

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Speaker 1: Right now?

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Speaker 2: A million dollar leech? Ain't that loan? Oh?

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Speaker 5: I'm with you when you're right Listen, a million dollar LEAs is in that loan. But what the situation Russell Wilson is going to is in his favor by much. You know, God, God say he has favor right, Well, he has for Russell Wilson because the situation that he's going into is in his favor. For one, remember the organization you're going to. You're going to a winning organization. You're going to a winning coach. They have the pieces offensively where you'll be able to hide any weaknesses that he may have. Any weakness that he may have at this point in the career will be taken care of.

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is going to be fine. And I'm saying this as a as a as.

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Speaker 5: A Bengal legend and allegiance to my Bengals. He is going to be fine. So and again, it's a good thing. It's a good thing.

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes sat behind Alex Smith for a year.

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Speaker 5: There's nothing wrong with Justin Fields, who I believe is going to be quarterback of the future for the Pittsburgh Steelers, sitting behind Russell Wilson and taking some of the small nuances on what it takes to be a leader from someone who was a perennial playoff playoff quarterback. Yes, and a quarterback and a Super Bowl champion. Nothing wrong with that?

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Speaker 3: Can I play Devil's advocate? The difference between Patrick mahomes situation and Justin Fields. Patrick Mahomes came in as a rookie. Justin Fields is going into his fourth year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know what you mean.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers as a rookie.

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Speaker 3: Justin Fields is going into his fourth year and he's been a starter for the Lions share of his the better part of his career. So it's a different mindset being a rookie not starting now all of a sudden, being thrust in as opposed to being a starter and going through a bench and waiting your.

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Speaker 5: Turn and see, maybe this is a good thing. Though the fact that he had to come in it was thrown to the Sharks. The fact that he had to come in it was thrown to the rule the Wolves. And matter of fact, he was he went to organization. Can you tell me the last time that the Chicago Bears organization from top to bottom have developed a decent quarterback?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 5: At what point, at what point, at any point in their in their historic franchise, had they done right? By any quarterback and put the pieces around them so they could succeed offensively.

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Speaker 3: When when you think of the Chicago's bear, the Chicago Bears, what do you think think about?

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Speaker 2: They call him the Martians, the masters of.

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Speaker 5: The Midways, the Midway, I think a goddamn refrigerator. Perry. I think of Jim McMahon, Walter Payton and god damned the peanut punch.

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Speaker 2: But it was the defense, the forty six defense, Richard Din.

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Speaker 3: Mike, Mike Singletary, Mike sent Terry, Mcmike Wilbam, Marshall, Leslie. I think Leslie Fraser was on that team, Doug playing.

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Speaker 1: Hey, what's Leslie Fraser?

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Speaker 2: Doug the dB?

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Speaker 5: Wait Leslie Phraser? That was my decordinator at Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he played in the league.

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Speaker 5: Wait, I ain't no less place for the goddamn all Bears.

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Speaker 1: You serious?

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Speaker 2: So I would like to tell you what, yo.

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Speaker 1: Man, I ain't No, I ain't no less play th dB.

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Speaker 5: I wish I know that while he was in Cincinnati, I would have make it Lyne your ass up on out here, man, let me see what you got.

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Speaker 2: He puts something on you. The old man.

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Speaker 5: He was, he was hell. He was hell back then he didn't have to hold up long.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, that d line was crazy. Damn, that's a good one. That's dope. That's dope to know. That's dope to know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So, uh, it's gonna be very interesting. It's different.

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Speaker 3: Uh. It's one thing O yo to be to come in and says, okay, I don't really know, I don't know what I know, and you have to learn the offense.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: It's not like Russ has a substantial advantage over him, other than he's been in the league a lot longer. He kind of understands the nuances of it. But we both have to learn a new system and go from there. But to go from a starter, hey, you did it when you went there, when you went to New England, it was a different role for you.

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Speaker 2: You up, you head to the field. Now all of a sudden, you stand on the sideline.

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Speaker 3: You gotta keep your legs warm, you got to keep your mind sharp. You might not play for one or two three series. Then you're going in on third down. You ain't got the rhythm.

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Speaker 1: That at all at all.

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Speaker 5: And you know, it's so funny and then now that you just brought that up. I always thought about it. You would think so if I had the choice during that time, obviously, if we were in control of our destiny in general. For me per se, during that time when I got traded to the Patriots, many people say, you know what, I wouldn't. That's not a place I would have chosen to go to if you think about it. Hell from a listen, from an offensive perspective, people say, man, are you crazy? Where you going to play with Tom Brady? But but listen, Tom Brady also had players that were already there that understood the system.

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Speaker 1: Dion Branch for one. You had Wes Welker stay with me.

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Speaker 5: Now you had Julian Edelman too, Then you had Gronk, and you had Aaron Hernandez.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, come on now, God, I mean, it's just it's just it's just it just wasn't the right fit. Sometimes in life.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes in life, some people say, oh, you just plug a player in and you just go.

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Speaker 1: It just it just it just didn't. It didn't, It didn't fit.

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Speaker 2: It didn't.

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Speaker 3: But I didn't have a choice what you did, because that offense worked from inside.

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Speaker 5: Out, side out. How come it's only us that understand that. And unless you unless your last name is mass that's the only way if you were an outside receiver who predominantly plays on the outside, you're going to see that type of production that we used to sing.

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Speaker 2: But it worked.

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Speaker 3: Though it worked, But most talking about one of the top three receivers they ever played the game of.

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Speaker 5: All time, all time, I said, unless you Moss, and there would be no recreational re incardination of hand. I mean nobody else. But you know what I'm trying to say, I do. But again, it was a great experience, though it was, it was a phenomenal experience.

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Speaker 2: But that's that's the difference.

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Speaker 3: And a lot of people say, man, why would Lebron do a podcast with JJ because there are certain things nuances to the game that only somebody that played the game understand.

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Speaker 2: Me if he like he should have did a podcast with you know, to do what.

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Speaker 3: He and I can't talk basketball on that level, just like he can't talk football on the level you and I having a discussion, right because if I say Lebron, they came out in the overfront and they look like they're gonna he go like over what over what front?

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying overfront or under front.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, They're gonna you know, they're gonna run cover five, which is twenty two. Man, he don't know what cover five is, right right right? If we say they run, you know they gonna run six kick next kick. So it's there's nuances to a discussion that I do. I have a general knowledge and of understanding of basketball, yes, but there are certain things that only a person that have played the game could possibly understand. You and I having a conversation said, if you look at the Patriot's office and the way it's always been, it's been an inside out type of an office, with the exception of the two to three years that Randy was there. But if you look at Brady, he mainly worked between the numbers. And that's okay, But there are certain nuances to a discussion that only someone is like, uh, we were having the discussions OJO about Michael B.

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Speaker 2: Jordan.

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Speaker 3: He says, it's hard fighting someone to understand that you got this craft and you got a gift, and you know you want, you know, you need somebody to understand your sacrifice. I'm always a believer. That's why movie stars married other movie stars because they know what it's like, the sacrifice, because they've been in a situation where they've asked somebody that wasn't in the business to sacrifice and they couldn't possibly understand. Yeah, so when you and I have a conversation, a more nuanced conversation, we don't really get to in depth because.

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Speaker 2: That's that's not what we try to do.

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Speaker 3: We're not trying to I'm not trying to impress you with my football knowledge. I think it goes without saying playing the game the way I played as long as I played, I think most friends understand that I have a great understanding of the game of football, the x's and os, just like Lebron. I mean, you're talking about the brain. There might there might not be four or five players in the history of the game that has a better understanding of the game that played the game than Lebron and then JJ played you play fourteen to fifteen years like JJ. Obviously they can have a nuanced conversation that Lebron and I could never have, and especially that that's just about basketball.

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Speaker 2: They don't talk about anything else other than basketball.

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Speaker 3: We talk about a lot of other things, other than football, So this this.

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Speaker 2: Works for us. But yeah, I think the thing is but hey, you heard what he's saying.

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Speaker 3: Being transparent, Wilson just got a lot of experience in terms of what it takes to be the guy over the course of twelve months of a twelve month calendar, and I just think that's something a younger guy, Justin can learn from. But he didn't say Justin Field's not gonna have a chance to compete. He said, when it comes to letting justin, the fields know that he'll have a chance to compete when they feel as the time is right.

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Speaker 5: And we know when the time would be right. When things aren't going well, when things aren't going well, they're on a skid offensively, they're on a skid in losing games, then they will obviously make a change. I mean, it's common sense. We understand how that works when the fans are when the fans are doing. Now, do I think it will get to that point, I doubt it. I doubt it because right now we already saw a clip of Russell Wilson doing exactly what.

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Speaker 1: He's already out there.

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Speaker 5: He's already out there putting the work, and I guarantee you, the receivers, the running backs in that team. He's got everybody phone number, and at some point, the next thing we're gonna see is a video of all them getting work in before they even go back to the offseason program, so that when it is time to get together an instruction environment as a team, they already had a ball.

00:25:15
Speaker 3: Yes, look, there are certain things haven't had the relationship with a quarterback because this is new to them. I really didn't have to do a whole lot with John because I spent five six years with him. So in the offseason, there's no need for us to work because he was far beyond that. He got four kids, young kids. Hey, and I'm not trying to spend any more time in Denver because when I was back in Denver, I didn't go back to Atlanta. When I went to Atlanta, I didn't go back to Denver until I Afteruly had to. So it was like, man, I can't wait. When I was up out of it, I was up out of there. But you have a general understanding of where he liked to put the ball. He has an understanding of where you like the ball, how you like to catch the ball. Give you an opportunity to protect yourself, because that's all I've asked any quarterback that I played with, O, Joe, is that let allow me to protect myself. Right.

00:26:12
Speaker 2: I understand that there's gonna be times.

00:26:13
Speaker 3: Hey, it's not like he's playing in a phone boot that he's protected and the elements are not on him, rain, when snow, whatever the case may be.

00:26:23
Speaker 2: But just give me an opportunity if you possibly can.

00:26:25
Speaker 3: Now if you're getting taken one to the chops, hey, it is what it is, and that's what the understanding is. But I commend Russ and these guys that go to different teams and they get bring the receivers there, and you got an understanding of how they run the routes, the timing of the route. Now you know it's a little different, though, Joe, because ain't nobody air you get a free release, Ain't nobody putting hands on you anything like that. Ain't nobody, ain't no d lineman. Just beat the offensive lineman clean and now you got to run for your life. Everything is perfect, but you kind of get a general set. So how he runs the route and the timing and what's the timing to be? Three step, five step bavery few teams take seven steps now because everybody's in the gun.

00:27:05
Speaker 2: So basically, change three of the hot and you let the ball go right. So yeah, you good? You want to add anything else to that?

00:27:15
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I didn't know. I said my piece, said my piece. I under said my piece.

00:27:19
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones says Dak Prescott can win them.

00:27:22
Speaker 3: So again, Jerry Jones says, I think there are a handful a handful of more quarterbacks playing who haven't won a Super Bowl then will win a Super Bowl.

00:27:32
Speaker 2: I think Dak is one of them.

00:27:34
Speaker 3: I'm I'm firm there he's one of the ones who can. Now you remember, immediately after the season, Jerry says, we're only gonna go as far as Dak carries us, and this is as far as he could carry us.

00:27:50
Speaker 1: Why does Jerry keep doing this?

00:27:53
Speaker 5: Chad, If there's anybody that's a cowboy fans in here, I apologize.

00:27:57
Speaker 1: I apologize that you have to go through this.

00:28:00
Speaker 5: From an owner who seemed to be in denial, who really doesn't understand. I need to do something different for a change. I need to change up my philosophy. I needed to change up my way of thinking, the way I'm running business because maybe if I do that, maybe the results on the back end will be different. Let's talk about super bowls real quick. One, It's very very difficult to win a super Bowl.

00:28:23
Speaker 1: It's very, very, very very difficult.

00:28:25
Speaker 5: I think we as fans, even myself, even as players, we've been spoiled with Tom Brady and their success.

00:28:31
Speaker 1: Now in today's.

00:28:32
Speaker 5: Era where we're spoiled with the consistency that Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City the Chiefs have being that they have three. So let's go through a few quarterbacks real quick, that have won a Super Bowl. We got Drew b Drew Brees, he has one ring.

00:28:47
Speaker 2: One.

00:28:48
Speaker 1: It took twenty goddamn years.

00:28:50
Speaker 2: Yep.

00:28:50
Speaker 5: We got Aaron Rodgers, he has one ring. It took seventeen years. So far, I'm not saying he can't do it.

00:28:57
Speaker 2: Oh no, he got more. Aaron came didn't Aaron come in?

00:28:59
Speaker 3: And two thousand and five to two thousand and five, now four was what you call him draft with the Peyton with Eli and them right, Eli and Big Bend and JP lost one and Philip right right, you got one, he got one. But Aaron Rodgers played like nineteen years nineteen.

00:29:23
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, okay, okay, I'm off a little bit. So that's one ring. See how long it took though, right? Brett Favre played twenty season he has one ring.

00:29:33
Speaker 2: Went the two Super Bowls? One ring? Correct?

00:29:38
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner played twelve seasons. He has one ring. Now, if I'm not mistaken, how many Super Bowls did Steve Young win? I know as a.

00:29:47
Speaker 3: Starter he won. Play yeah, but he won. He was on the team that won in eighty eight, eighty nine, he won one of the starter.

00:29:57
Speaker 1: Yet, okay, one ring? Do you see how difficult? How difficult?

00:30:04
Speaker 5: These are some of the greatest quarterbacks of all time to win a Super Bowl and it took so long. It took so long to obviously, you know, paint has to me. We know what mahomes and we know what Tom Brady have done. It's so difficult to even get to that place where you can host that Lombardi Trophy. But if you look at all the names I talked about, they didn't have an owner. It's at the front center of attention. You know, they didn't they didn't have any distractions in the off season. That's already adding added pressure and fuel to the fire and even time to play fucking football.

00:30:43
Speaker 1: So now you go.

00:30:44
Speaker 5: Into the season, the first thing you hear about, well, shit, you goddamn owner said you when they can get a super Bowl, I believe. Come on, why why why even add that? Why even add that food to the plate, and just let the fellas play fucking football. Let him play football, man, It's simple.

00:31:06
Speaker 1: Take a back seat.

00:31:07
Speaker 5: You don't always have to be in front of you know what. I blame the god damn media.

00:31:11
Speaker 3: Stop asking him questions that give material.

00:31:15
Speaker 1: Stop asking him questions.

00:31:17
Speaker 2: Look at look at Jerry notes. Look at his copious notes he's taken.

00:31:20
Speaker 1: He an't even take no notes.

00:31:22
Speaker 3: He stuff on there. He just scribling stuff. Man, Listen, I mean year loss student.

00:31:34
Speaker 1: Listen. I'm not I'm not. I'm a fan of football.

00:31:37
Speaker 5: I'm a fan of liking players to see succeed at their individual craft and position. For Dak to succeed, for Dak to do well, he needs no added pressure. For the person that sits high and looks low the way he's doing. You don't need that. You don't need that in all season, Like, come on, man, the fucking position as itself is already hard enough to get to a super Bowl is already hard enough. It's not a joke and not something you say, Hey, in one breath, you know what, we all in, We're gonna be all in. And then you've done nothing this offseason pertaining to you being all in. Now you come back two weeks later, three weeks later. Oh, I believe in that. Hell, I believe in them too. I believe why you even mention the fucking word super Bowl. Let's get past the playoffs first. Let's start there. God damn.

00:32:38
Speaker 2: He o, Joe this said.

00:32:40
Speaker 3: We had a poll up, say which happens first, Cowboys win super Bowl or the next Haley's comment. Now, the Hailey's comment happened nineteen eighty six. I remember because I saw it because I was in the sixth grade and my science professor, doctor Prenty's Buck Haller told us it was coming, so I made sure I looked up into the sky.

00:33:00
Speaker 2: I saw it. The next one arrives in twenty sixty one.

00:33:03
Speaker 3: God damn, it only happens between seventy five and seventy nine years, right, it was like seventy seven and the third seventy six and a half. So they it's like, okay, it's kind of hard to pinpoint. So let's go between seventy five and seventy nine years. So the chat seem to think that Haley's comment is gonna happen before the next Cowboy Super Bowl.

00:33:26
Speaker 1: Listen, man like it.

00:33:31
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna say it bothers me, but if I'm a Cowboy fan, it would bother me. I'm a fan of football in general. I'm a fan of wanting to see the players on the Cowboys succeed. But you you know what, I'm gonna let you take it.

00:33:48
Speaker 3: No, I want to keep onard talking. I want to keep on talkingud of Cowboy fans because I already know. Because there's nothing nothing makes you feel more let down the next bayations.

00:34:01
Speaker 2: That's the number one killer, Joe is expectations.

00:34:04
Speaker 3: Because if you have expectations, like if you got kids and you already know when I'm bad, it ain't call you like I already know which one it is. But if you got this one that's been a model citizen, you have these expectations, Oh, that's gonna be my athlete. He's gonna go to the NFL, or she's gonna be the doctor, or she's gonna be the law and then all of a sudden, instead of going to law school, she got three babies by the time she twenty, or all of a sudden, he ain't hen plunked out of school.

00:34:34
Speaker 2: Not college, high school.

00:34:36
Speaker 3: You're so disappointed because of the expectations that you have. See, Cowboys fans have these expectations that they believe every year their team is going to win the Super Bowl.

00:34:47
Speaker 2: And when it doesn't happen.

00:34:51
Speaker 5: Now, the Cowboys fan had these expectations because of who who is the person leading them a struggle? He in false hole man, every and I'm trying to understand. I'm trying. I would love to know how many Cowboys fans are are happy with the way Jerry cares himself as far as from a media media perspective and always.

00:35:13
Speaker 2: Be happy the Cowboys. Oh for real? Yeah, she said, no, we're not happy. I don't.

00:35:22
Speaker 1: I don't.

00:35:22
Speaker 5: I don't understand, man, Listen, I love Jerry from a business aspect, and and even I I'm obviously I'm not in his position. But if I was in his position and and things weren't going the way I want him to, I mean I would be able to see the light. I would be able to say I would be able to see the light and saying, you know what, if I want things to change, I think they might have to start with me, because it always starts with yourself and looking in the mirror.

00:35:46
Speaker 1: That goes for anybody.

00:35:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, way ways bingo.

00:35:55
Speaker 5: Even even if people this is like a life lesson for people in the chat that's watching. Let's say your life, your life ain't going the way you want. You know, you have planned, you got goal, you got aspirations, but for some reason, shit just keep falling by the wayside. It started with the person right there actually said what am I doing wrong? Change up your routine? You don't stop doing it? Maybe stop drinking, maybe stop smoking. Who knows what it may be. But Jerry, you got somebody around him. If an't nobody round him, gonna say nothing because they don't want to mess up their money.

00:36:26
Speaker 1: Jerry got to see it for.

00:36:27
Speaker 5: Himself, like I'm daring about to cry because for me, this is not this is not just.

00:36:34
Speaker 3: Might hear him though, old Joe you here, Steven who Steven kids?

00:36:38
Speaker 2: He got a Jared j andor Steven and Charlotte, that's the daughter. You know.

00:36:42
Speaker 5: The funny thing about it they might not be the same. They might understand what it takes. They might they might they might do, they might do. They just can't say anything because they understand that Jerry runs the show and he called the shots.

00:36:54
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, how do.

00:36:58
Speaker 3: We we're not taught with We don't have any we don't have any abilities. Everything that we're talking, we talked, we'll we're talkt that. We don't have senses. Were talked to love, we talked. You followed, like what time it is, the where you go to the kitchen, where you go to the bathroom. You didn't just automatically know that. So when you see somebody do all the things that you what you think they gonna do. Stephen Jones me the same thing every year. This team reminds me of those Super Bowl teams. So we're tall, Oh Joe, we're tall, we're creatures. We're tall things.

00:37:38
Speaker 1: I think I need to go on down there and holler at Jerry myself.

00:37:41
Speaker 2: Will you go right ahead?

00:37:42
Speaker 1: I go ahead and.

00:37:43
Speaker 5: Holler at him. Baby, you got them? Come on now, we need we needed to take a back seat. Ain't nothing wrong with that. Well, you're gonna get the credit. Don't worry about it.

00:37:51
Speaker 2: Do you walk. Do you walk?

00:37:53
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure you get the credit.

00:37:54
Speaker 2: Do you walk?

00:37:55
Speaker 3: No? You walk? That's what Who got the credit? When the first Sup Bowls Jimmy and then even when he won in ninety five, what did they say? Oh Joe, I don't know if you remember, they say you won with Jimmy players that why would have went so bad? Right now? Say, oh Joe, you see that's why. Man, the egos you're dealing with Alpha. Alpha's what you think calls Tom Brady and and and coach Bella checked the break up. I need to get more credit than you. I'm tired of people saying Tom.

00:38:24
Speaker 2: Tom Tom Tom Tom.

00:38:25
Speaker 1: Well it was Tom Tom Tom Tom Tker.

00:38:29
Speaker 3: Win one without you? Ship you know what I'm saying, Jasey, I'm gonna win one without you? So he would, he would, he would, That would be his credit. The three Super Bowls that Jerry had, they mean a lot to it. The problem Jerry had such success so early in his career, within his first six seven years, he had three to win one, whether Mike McCarthy or a coach. Because if you get if you get Bill Belichick, you're not getting credit. He is if you got to show you're not getting credit he is. If you can win one with one of these guys, that's just a coaching theory figure your head.

00:39:10
Speaker 1: That really has no power, but go ahead none.

00:39:13
Speaker 2: That would mean more to Jerry than the other three. Mm hmm.

00:39:20
Speaker 1: Listen. I would love I would I would love for him to winning and not because of Jerry.

00:39:23
Speaker 2: I love.

00:39:24
Speaker 5: I would love for Dak. I would love for that. I would love for Dak micha ah fucking host pull that motherfucker trophy up for CD LAMB. You know what it would do for the organization.

00:39:34
Speaker 1: What even though they're number one, Yes, the number one, Let's double that, Let's triple that.

00:39:42
Speaker 5: If Jerry Jiff, Jerry, if you're such a businessman, how are you not understanding that?

00:39:47
Speaker 2: You know what?

00:39:47
Speaker 1: You know what?

00:39:48
Speaker 2: You know what? Damn?

00:39:49
Speaker 1: I could really double and triple my networth if we were to actually win a Super Bowl. But if I did things a little different, maybe just maybe it can happen.

00:40:00
Speaker 5: But as long as I'm eating, as long as I'm number one, you know, I'm just keep doing things my way.

00:40:04
Speaker 3: I'm doing four hundred MILLI a year and we ain't even come close to winning the Super bowl.

00:40:09
Speaker 2: But now I get out of the way.

00:40:12
Speaker 3: I might make five hundred million, but I'm not gonna get the credit for.

00:40:16
Speaker 2: Hmmm.

00:40:18
Speaker 3: Nah, give me the folk, give me the pot man, all right, give me the vote.

00:40:24
Speaker 5: I ain't the smart listen, I ain't the smartest appling and the motherfucking bunch. But I can see the light. At some point, I ain't you even got to be the smartest. You gotta know what hell goddamn doing the same thing over and over and over and over after so long, at some point, you know, like my grandma say, a hard ass makes a hard head, make a soft ass, A hard head.

00:40:52
Speaker 1: Make a soft ass. You're gonna keep getting the same results.

00:40:55
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:40:56
Speaker 3: But but like I said, I mean they're learning.

00:41:00
Speaker 2: Do you think you look?

00:41:00
Speaker 3: I mean, you learn how to run a business through your father or whoever, like, oh, my mentor. You hear people say that my mentor or you take the manner rhythms of of said person that you watch closely, and the success or the and you try to like but that's what they know, so good luck. Sean McDermott, head coach of the Buffalo Bill, says it's a narrow minded to say it's narrow minded to say we haven't succeeded without a Super Bowl. McDermott said, Super Bowl is the only measure of a coach is a column, Yes it is, And Josh Allen is the collum, Yes it is, and the team the compliment, Yes it is. I don't know who they head told you see that. That's where you try to sell some bullgie. You try to you try to sell the fans bullgie bullgie calling it saltat spinning.

00:41:47
Speaker 2: No it ain't. It's bullgi. Yeah, he said.

00:41:52
Speaker 3: I think like anything when you talk about the Bills, where there's Josh byself of our team, we've had so much success. Really okay, to say we haven't had success or Josh hasn't have success, I think we'd be kind of narrow minded. That's what the NFL is.

00:42:11
Speaker 2: College is that.

00:42:12
Speaker 3: Where you try to take young men and try to mold them in and try to mold them into what they're gonna beat. Boy, I'm maying you money him hy hey all Height, you thank mean to tell me I'm paying you forty fifty million dollars and man, shup, he got to go. Well, he had to go last year. After that, after last year, two years in row. You had home feel against Cincinnati, they beat the brinks off you. You had home feel against Patrick Mahomes and against the g and you said, that's what you wanted against this team, because every time you face this team in the playoffs they beat you at their place. You say, I'm going to man in my building. He'd had to go old Joe. Yeah, that's what the NFL.

00:42:59
Speaker 2: This is a business. The NFL is a bottom line business.

00:43:03
Speaker 3: And there's only two things on the menu that you can order, where's and losses.

00:43:08
Speaker 1: That's it.

00:43:09
Speaker 2: That's it.

00:43:10
Speaker 1: That's it.

00:43:11
Speaker 5: I think maybe maybe from his maybe from his perspective, maybe his lenses on what he's talking about. Listen, the regular season's success can be the only thing you're talking about, because in the regular season they are phenomenal, They are great until they meet the juggernaut of the Chiefs. Right, that's been their achilles hell. That has been their achilles hell. And the window of opportunity for the Bills. I wouldn't say it's closing, but if you're going to make it, the pieces you have right now give you the best chance to do so.

00:43:47
Speaker 3: Look at the t fifth that they had, they had stripped down. That stripped down that defense. Mm hmmm uh they look they lost Gabe Davis. We look, we can dress up. Diggs isn't happy. He's not happy with his role. I don't necessarily thank his money, but his role. Yeah, maybe he wants.

00:44:09
Speaker 2: Look.

00:44:10
Speaker 3: The worst mistake that you can make, O, yo, is measuring your success by somebody else's. Man, Look at all the targets justin Jeels. Again, man, look at all the targets Tyreek. Yet, look at all these targets. Man, I should be I should be, I should be.

00:44:25
Speaker 1: Bad.

00:44:26
Speaker 2: Oh, Joe, you make yourself sick.

00:44:28
Speaker 1: I know I feel you.

00:44:29
Speaker 5: But listen for a player of his caliber regards to what people may say, regards to what the chat may think about Stephan Diggs, he is your best offensive weapon.

00:44:39
Speaker 2: He is.

00:44:41
Speaker 3: Alan the best Well he's a quarterback, definite sense, Yeah, you the best weapon.

00:44:47
Speaker 1: I mean it's okay, come on, now you know what I mean.

00:44:51
Speaker 2: Oh, as an office you're talking about the quarterback.

00:44:55
Speaker 1: The quarterback already had.

00:44:56
Speaker 5: The quarter has a ball in his hands all the time, So the offensive weapon would have to be the weapons he has to use at his disposal.

00:45:03
Speaker 3: I think what you call him, I think Justin Jefferson is a better weapon than Kirk Cousins.

00:45:06
Speaker 2: He's he's just curlely, just more important.

00:45:10
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right, that's that's saying, Look, okay, okay.

00:45:17
Speaker 3: If we get this guy the ball, he hope opens up the offense and he makes everybody else life a lot easier.

00:45:23
Speaker 1: Wide open, wide open.

00:45:25
Speaker 5: And the fact and what they do is is the fact that he does make it easy for everybody else, is they allow teams to take him away instead of not fortunate the issue, but putting in position to always continue to make plays, instead of allowing him to fall by the wayside. Because you know what, well, Stefan Diggs, look what they're doing on film.

00:45:46
Speaker 1: They're covering you. They're making sure they take you away. There's nothing we can do about it.

00:45:50
Speaker 5: We're going to try to work everyone else into the offense and hope he can have success that way. Instead of saying, well, fuck what y'all doing, We're Finn put our best player and got damn position it, make sure it gives us our best chance to win and move the ball down to goddamn field and the change. But no, they decided not to do that on the back end of the season.

00:46:14
Speaker 2: So I disagree with Sean.

00:46:17
Speaker 3: You were brought there to win a championship and it hasn't happened, and you got one of the many will believe a top five quarterback at your at your disposal. You've had a top five offense for the better part of two to three years. Defenses is it has been good enough for you to win and it hasn't gotten done. So ultimately your your ultimate success. Now you can talk about all week. We got some great men, and we got great fathers, and we got great people in the community. I don't here I want to hear that, because that ain't what we're paying you for. And I'm happy, I'm glad that you know you have great men and.

00:46:55
Speaker 2: Great men in the communities, and we got great fathers.

00:46:58
Speaker 3: But I'm not paying you seven eight million dollars a year, and I'm not paying Josh having forty five million dollars a year to be no great man in the community. I'm paying him to bring me a damn Super Bowl, and I'm paying you Ken is Ransom to do the same.

00:47:11
Speaker 2: So save that now.

00:47:13
Speaker 3: When you're going to go go speech, go speak to a boy's home and tell them that they're winning in life and things like that.

00:47:20
Speaker 2: That's fine.

00:47:21
Speaker 3: I'll accept that then, but don't you set your hands down in front of no reporter then talk about oh we win in here.

00:47:27
Speaker 2: No, you have not.

00:47:32
Speaker 1: He's on the right track.

00:47:33
Speaker 5: I can say that he's on the right track because come, oh, every year, do you know.

00:47:38
Speaker 1: What they want? Every year? Every year they won game away o jo? Are two games away o joe? Every year.

00:47:45
Speaker 3: Even if you're on the right track, you can still get run over if you're heading in the wrong direction.

00:47:50
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good one. God damn, I should have had my notepad. God damn it. That's a good one. Hey, without a fire right there.

00:47:58
Speaker 2: But that was a bar.

00:48:00
Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, I mean what I mean? People kill me with that? Well, oh we win it, bro. You know what sports are about. You know, this is the bottom line business. And all of a sudden you want to get philosophical. And there's some people like, well, shuddy, he is winning. He's creating great men. Hell, go join the military, the military, creating great men's discipline, structured fight to the finish. Yet, that's what I'm looking for. But he ain't got me brave. He got me running off with the bullg eye. Robert slam Head, coach of the Jets, welcome the quietness this year after twenty twenty three north damn quarterback. There's not so much buzz around the Jets this offseason, which Sola is happy about. I think Joe Douglas has done a really good job adding some really cool pieces to our football team. But yeah, it's quiet. Last year was a little loud. We welcome a little bit of quietness. It's your damn quarterback that was making all it on yo.

00:48:59
Speaker 1: Who listen.

00:49:01
Speaker 5: He commands that type of attention. He commands because of who he is. He likes to be in front of the camera too. He likes to be in front of I think the purpose of what Sala is doing here is purposely putting it out there and we would like you to come back, or when you do come back, let's let's tone it down a little bit.

00:49:23
Speaker 2: That's all.

00:49:23
Speaker 1: That's just that's just a little message.

00:49:26
Speaker 5: So he put the message out there publicly to ask for Aaron to take a bad seat from the camera, from the talking from the media, because he can he will, especially especially after sla I came out like this, this is I'm not saying it's a subliminal, but it's just a message getting out there.

00:49:42
Speaker 1: And there's only one person who makes noise over there in New York. It's only one person, Only one.

00:49:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, Joe, tell me the guy that had an achilles injury, that was supposed to miss the whole season and has something to say every single week. Tell me the guy that went on the Pat McAfee show and all he did was few conspiracy theories.

00:50:04
Speaker 2: He never really talked about the game.

00:50:06
Speaker 3: He was talking about all the other bullgeins, and then when people call him to the carpet, it's people hating on him. No, if you keep your mouth shut, you're not a medical doctor, bro.

00:50:17
Speaker 2: And what happened at COVID in twenty twenty.

00:50:19
Speaker 3: We're moving on, but you keep bringing up because remember he always thinks he's the smartest guy.

00:50:25
Speaker 2: In the room.

00:50:27
Speaker 3: And he ow, oh, I'm throwing I'm coming back any chance I can prove medical professionals wrong.

00:50:34
Speaker 2: That's what I'm gonna do. And he ain't coming back.

00:50:38
Speaker 3: That was his way of still trying to garner some of the attention because out of sight, out of my mind. Yeah, that's what the NFL is about. You can't help us win. You can't do anything. Ain't nobody talking about Aaron Rodgers. Were talking about the foolishness that he was discussing, but we weren't talking about him on the field, right, So the quietness you need to tell you need to take talk to a blacker mile over there, your quarterback, because he's the one that's causing all the noise.

00:51:06
Speaker 2: He's the one that's beating on all the drugs.

00:51:08
Speaker 3: He's the one that's banging on all the doors and making the racket him.

00:51:13
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody else doing no talking but him.

00:51:16
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why I said this was this was a message. This was a message strictly for Aaron Rodgers. The quietness. I'm enjoying the quietness, trickly amp. Let's tone it down a little bit. Let's let's come into the season, right path, silence case you go either this is the media, the media itself is going to make make enough noise simply because you're coming back. You're healthy too, You're in New York. Ain't you don't need to make no noise. It's gonna it's the noise gonna make itself.

00:51:46
Speaker 3: We'll see what we'll see what's OTAs or many camps or we want to get in the training camp.

00:51:50
Speaker 2: If it's still quiet. It's quiet.

00:51:52
Speaker 3: Now, ain't nobody doing no talking, but Jerry, anybody doing talking, O Joe, Ain't nobody doing no Ain't nobody doing no football talking.

00:52:00
Speaker 2: But we'll see.

00:52:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh ahead of baby crying shit, hold on, hold on.

00:52:15
Speaker 2: Go ahead.

00:52:22
Speaker 3: The NFL is concerned about a Dippen scoring competition. Committed chairman Richard McKay says, statistically, what gives us a little bit of what concerns a little bit is scoring. Scoring this year was at forty three point five, still above the historical marker, but which has kind of been that forty three mark. But we were at forty nine points a game in twenty twenty, and we went from forty five in twenty twenty one, and we went from forty three to seventy point seventy six and twenty twenty two, and now now we're down to forty three point five four. We know, oh, your like numbers. That's my her most to the NFL. Money equals TV ratings. TV ratings equal money. H dang don key, Oh, Joe, I don't know if you heard this with Richard McKay, chairman of the Competition Committee, saying he's concerned about the scoring depth. He said, in twenty twenty the scoring was forty nine points per game between the teams, and then it went to forty five and twenty twenty one, and it went to forty three points, seventy six and twenty two and it was a deep again forty three point five to four. And what I said, scoring equals ratings equals money.

00:53:46
Speaker 5: Yeah, most definitely, most definitely. But why is there a different scoring? What It shouldn't be a different scoring because you're taking all the you're taking all the advantages away from the defense.

00:53:55
Speaker 1: WRECT, it shouldn't be a different scoring at all.

00:53:57
Speaker 5: You can't do anything. You can't hit nobody, dB A, can't jam anymore. Everything is offensive. Everything is defensive passing appearance. You can't hit the quarterback, you can't test the quarterback. I mean, there shouldn't be a dip in scoring. So now they're looking for other ways to increase increase scoring and handicap the game even more.

00:54:17
Speaker 3: Come on now, they said, Uh, I think they're looking for a way to the kickoff. I don't know what they're going to do. With the kickoff. I don't know, there's like, well maybe you could we go for What are they gonna try to do with the kickoff, because I don't understand that. How you make a dangerous play less?

00:54:34
Speaker 1: Dang right, you can't.

00:54:37
Speaker 5: You can't all these safety rules, all this stuff they putting in place that they're trying to do. Huh what No, that they're trying to do.

00:54:47
Speaker 1: There's no way, it's impossible.

00:54:50
Speaker 5: The field, the dimensions of the field haven't changed in years, but the players have gotten.

00:54:56
Speaker 1: Bigger, stronger, and faster. Yeah, there's nothing thing you could do.

00:55:00
Speaker 5: I don't care how much safety you talk about and how many seminars you put on. How well the stuff that they make now are better for the players. If you drive a car one hundred miles an hour into wall, no matter what you do to it, it's still going to be totaled, no matter what.

00:55:20
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh.

00:55:22
Speaker 3: But by maning the league wants more scoring, the league and vice speculation that certain calls are made or not.

00:55:28
Speaker 2: Made in order to heighten the scoreboard. Mm hm, see.

00:55:35
Speaker 1: Hmmm.

00:55:36
Speaker 5: So now they're not gonna be calling certain stuff just to make sure.

00:55:40
Speaker 3: Whether that team speculation for the longest time right that when a defensive player did something, you called it offensive player.

00:55:49
Speaker 2: Dissuth o.

00:55:51
Speaker 1: There've been a few. There have been a few.

00:55:55
Speaker 3: Understand, you know, we're not gonna you're not gonna get every I mean, you're human, You're gonna to air as human. But there have been calls at that, bro, how you missed that? The dude right there, come on that. You can't miss that, you know.

00:56:07
Speaker 5: Matter of fact, speaking of there was one last year that was a clear pih The Commanders were playing somebody. It was an end zone, matter of fact, and the PI. I mean, oh man, it was a PI clear as day. But they gave they gave. God damn, I can't remember that play, Chad. I'm sure Chad knows what I'm talking about, though, Yeah, but like, what the hell if I can see it, I know they saw a nay on the field with the flag in their pocket.

00:56:34
Speaker 1: It didn't throw nothing.

00:56:36
Speaker 3: Because the thing about is that when you look at it and say, well, we made some of these rules, uh, for the safety of the game.

00:56:44
Speaker 2: That's what they had. The safety of the game. I ain't heard no about that.

00:56:47
Speaker 3: He's now if scoring is coming down, but also the game is because safety is going up.

00:56:56
Speaker 2: Should that be what you want?

00:56:58
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's not what they want. That's not what they want because they know what the scoring. It increases the revenue, and we know what the bottom line is at the end of the day. We know what the bottom line is.

00:57:09
Speaker 3: Absolutely so, so they want to get They want to increase more scoring, like we don't have enough scoring. We want it more. You want so forty nine. So that's that sweet spot kind of where you want to be. You want to kind of be like fifty points a game between the two teams. So you really like the twenty eight, the twenty eight, twenty one ball game, you know what I'm saying. Don't show you like the you know, the twenty seven, you know, twenty seven to twenty four ball game.

00:57:38
Speaker 5: Hold on, hold on, come here, hold on here, take her, take her.

00:57:46
Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, there we go.

00:57:51
Speaker 2: I'm back.

00:57:51
Speaker 1: I'm back. Don King is going.

00:57:54
Speaker 3: Gerard Mao says quarterback is a priority for us, but open to everything. At number three. Ro Mayo, the new coach of the New England Patriots, says it's a priority right now. But with that being said, you really have to be in love with the guy to take him. At number three, So really all options are still open for us. Jakoby Brissett signed with the Patriots this month and Mail said he could absolutely be our starter.

00:58:18
Speaker 1: No, no, Jats fans, I love Jacoby Brissett.

00:58:23
Speaker 5: This is nothing against him. I love Jacoby Brissett. I love what he's done during his tenure throughout the league. Nothing is open with number three. You know, you have to take a quarterback. The Patriot fans have suffered enough not having somebody at the Ham to replace the big shoes of Tom Brady. So you have to make that number three pick right. You have to make it smart, and it has to be someone that is going to be a generate, generational, franchise changing player. And you can't do that at any other position other than the quarterback position. And you can't mess up this time, Mac Jones. Things can work out well. I have nothing against Mac. It just didn't work out well. You had big shoes to feel. I like Zappy, you had big shoes to feel. They need to make this move. Get it right the first time. Get it right the first time so you don't have to do it again.

00:59:13
Speaker 2: So let me ask you a question. Let's just say. Let's just say, for the sake of argument, something unforeseen.

00:59:19
Speaker 3: Happens, Chicago Bears select jayde and Daniels, and with the two pick, the.

00:59:26
Speaker 1: Commanders select select Marvin Harrison Jr.

00:59:30
Speaker 3: Yes, and with the third pick, Caleb Williams is there, so they get Caleb Williams.

00:59:34
Speaker 2: But they say, you know, whoa.

00:59:35
Speaker 1: Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa. Wait a minute, how you just skipped over the Bears.

00:59:39
Speaker 3: I just I said this follow stay women, now stay with meen I said, let's say something unforeseen happens. The Bears select at number one Jade Daniels, with the number two pick Drake may or Marvin Harrison Junr. Goes to the Commanders and so Caleb Williams falling to the Patriots out. But what they do with kayleb Williams, They say, you know what, We're gonna let our special teams coach and our defensive coordinator call plays for it.

01:00:09
Speaker 2: How you think that's gonna turn out? For it?

01:00:15
Speaker 1: I like, I like where you're going. I like where you going.

01:00:19
Speaker 5: But then then I get into the mindset of the game of foot ball is all exits and those right, So regardless who's calling those plays, stay with me.

01:00:27
Speaker 2: Real quick. Okay.

01:00:28
Speaker 5: If Matt Patricia is calling the players is the office of coordinator, it's something that he's never done. My mindset, well, shit, whatever's drawn on paper, I got to go out there execute it, regardless of who's calling it. Now, I need those individuals that's on offense to make me look good because who gets who gets who gets coaches fired?

01:00:48
Speaker 2: The players coaches.

01:00:52
Speaker 1: With that too. But I need y'all to go execute.

01:00:55
Speaker 5: When we worked on all motherfucking week and we get out there Sunday, you have somebody else in front of you, outside of our own, our own players.

01:01:02
Speaker 1: I need you to do it right. Can I regards who's calling it?

01:01:04
Speaker 2: Can I can?

01:01:05
Speaker 3: Can you be mad if the guy you have, like you have a chef, but then all of a sudden your chef doesn't show up for work and you say, I want my mechanic to prepare my food and it tastes like credit.

01:01:16
Speaker 2: Can you be mad?

01:01:18
Speaker 3: Or you say you got to do a You got to do a job, bro, you got a job to do right.

01:01:23
Speaker 1: You're right, right.

01:01:24
Speaker 5: I like when you're going with it, But when I when I think it, when I think think about the analogy and the sense of football, and the sense of football. Mac Jones is a quarterback. Matt Patricia's calling the players. Yes, there's an offense, their receivers, there's a running back right, regardless of the plays that's called. We can't blame Matt Patricia on y'all not being not y'all not being able to ex He don't know what he's doing.

01:01:52
Speaker 3: Joe, he's a decoordinator. You got a special teams coach. Neither guy has. First of all, a Joe Judge has never called a play except the special teams hey return, right return, middle return, left, punt block, field, gold block. That's different intricacies than calling an offense and a defensive snap. So now all of a sudden, I'm asking people the quarterback. You told me the quarterback is the most important position. Now you got people that's never been in that position before doing things they've never done before. And you ask, well, did why did he look so bad? Why did he look so good his rookie year and then subsequently year after Yet that looks worse. It's not an accident, O Joe. It's not an accident. So let me ask you this. You think Joe Judge will ever get another job calling a play because if you good, you should be able to get a job calling doing something right. You think he'll never get a job again on the offense side of football, where he could potentially call place What about Matt Patrition?

01:03:03
Speaker 2: Are you being to me?

01:03:04
Speaker 1: It was good calling plays, wasn't he?

01:03:08
Speaker 3: Here's the thing they said, Andy Reid called the plays? So how did he look when he went away from Andy?

01:03:17
Speaker 1: Who has to execute? See?

01:03:18
Speaker 5: There we go, perfect? Perfect, he went away from Andy. So the players have to execute the plays. Yeah, players execute the players in Kansas City.

01:03:28
Speaker 3: Yes, but here's the thing. The guy that's calling the plays. Are you saying that Joe Judge and Matt Patricia a equivalent of Andy Reid?

01:03:37
Speaker 1: No, absolutely not.

01:03:38
Speaker 5: But again, the players have to execute the plays, no matter who's calling them.

01:03:42
Speaker 2: Mother, So let me ask you this.

01:03:43
Speaker 3: So now I'm gonna take who who you think is a good Okay, I'm gonna let Andy Reid the office guru. Now you gotta call plays for the defense. So if the defense falls off, you're gonna say, oh, they didn't make the plays, or you're gonna say, we hold on, we put a guy in position that he's never been in before.

01:04:03
Speaker 2: If we expect.

01:04:04
Speaker 3: What how do you put somebody in a position when they've never been in a position and expect success?

01:04:10
Speaker 2: Forget forget coaching. How can you.

01:04:13
Speaker 3: Put somebody that's in HR It says, we want you to run the company or put somebody in a position they've never been and expect the same level of success that someone that's been in that position for a number of years and they've done it.

01:04:26
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying.

01:04:27
Speaker 3: Yes, people have to go ahead and carry out the assignment, but you have to be able to put people in position.

01:04:35
Speaker 2: To carry out said assignment.

01:04:37
Speaker 5: Yeah, and see my issue what it is is mentally my mindset, it's a little different. So it's hard for me to even have the right thing to say on the topic because I'm thinking as a as a former player, I wouldn't care my grandma was calling the plays and excuse me, excuse me with this. If there's something that she says or cause a play to be made, I'm going to go execute that month forg I don't get so it's kind of different. But I see where you I see where you're coming from. I'm not sure if even the chat understands where I'm coming from. With that, it doesn't matter who's calling the plays. You still have a job to do that you're being paid to do, regardless of whether the person that's calling them knows who the fucking doing or not.

01:05:16
Speaker 3: No, because guess what, as a coach, you got to put me in a position. You study plays. Now, if we know they're gonna be in covered too, we're gonna call a cover to be the right. Yes, So why would you call something that's not conducing for cover too if you know they're gonna be in cover too?

01:05:33
Speaker 2: So you failed me as a coach.

01:05:35
Speaker 5: And you know, you know the good thing on you know, the good thing happens is when something like that happens. You need a quarterback whether wherewithal that knows well he called this?

01:05:44
Speaker 1: Do I have the ability and the power to change it? Is something that that I like.

01:05:49
Speaker 3: It's great to have the ability the thing that Patrick Mahomes and the really quarterback can do that can get off script.

01:05:55
Speaker 2: I call them it doesn't work. I can get off script, ye, being.

01:05:59
Speaker 3: Able to improvise, But you ain't gonna do that fixty five times a game.

01:06:03
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have. No.

01:06:05
Speaker 1: You need your coaches help, you need your coaches help and sometime the coach needs yours. Yes, it goes hand and in

01:06:15
Speaker 2: H