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Welcome into Netspod with Sarahkustack, presented my tickeond Master. I'm
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Sarah Kustack and I don't know what to tell you
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about this next guest. Normally when I introduce guests, I say,
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I'm so thrilled to tell you this is one of
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my favorite people.
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I can't wait.
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Yeah, and unfortunately we have Richard Jefferson.
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Hi Net's family. I love you guys. You guys are
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my favorite.
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You really are in all sincerity. Thank you for your time.
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You're home welcoming us in here in this beautiful uh
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beautiful place.
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That road.
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You gots to see a little insight into your life.
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But more than anything, we just appreciate you and a
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seventeen year NBA career. Yes, but I want you to
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to take us back we could see your boys. You're
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an amazing father, You're an amazing friend. You're one of
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the dearest. What was what was Rich like when he
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was a little rich Because we've been we've been waiting
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on you to mature.
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Okay, this is what I would say. I'm the youngest
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of three boys. So if we're gonna have that moment
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like I'm the youngest of three boys, I have brothers
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two years older, seven years older. My mom worked very
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very hard, but mom and stepdad both worked two jobs.
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So my three brothers, I was the I was the
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baby boy, So I'm the one always starting stuff, messing
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with people. That was just always my energy. That was
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the fun thing. The sarcasm. I think that kind of
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started as I got older, more of like a protectiveness,
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if you will, because I was so chill. Because I
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was so whatever, people would also like, always mess with me.
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But that's really who I am. I'm really just chill, fun, supportive.
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It's amazing to think about you coming in and your
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first couple of years going to the finals, Like, what
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what was that like for you? Understanding that you reached
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this pinnacle of making the NBA and then that's your
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introduction to the league.
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I'm an arrogant person right from a confident standpoint. Aaron
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is smiling again. I went to the national championship game
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at Arizona, and then the next year I went to
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two finals. So I was like, this is just what
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I do. It doesn't matter if I was a role
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player coming off the bench. They were like one of
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the things I remember with the Nets is that they
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they had no success. They had no success ever. They
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had aba success, They had a little bit, but never
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like a genuine team. And so I remember getting there
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and they was like, well, no Nets team ever did
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It was like, well, I was never on the team,
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mind you.
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I had j Kidd and Kenyon behind me, So I
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was I was.
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I was the little brother that was out front talking trash,
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knowing I had big brothers behind me. So when you say, like,
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what was it like to come in, I was like, yeah,
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we gonna beat your tail because of them, right. So
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I always had like a natural fund. But it was
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fun because I came from a team environment at Arizona.
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I was always taught winning is the most important thing.
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And then I get to the Nets and we got
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to change the franchise led by Jason Kidd.
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He was the guy, but.
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It was kind of like follow my lead, and my
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job was to be a soldier in following his lead.
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And I took a lot of pride in.
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That did you do that because you don't seem like
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you follow those people stay in line very well.
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I do. I do follow.
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I actually do follow orders, but I have you have
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to be a little crazy in this league. You have
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to be a little bit different, to be twenty one
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years old and playing in the finals, to be twenty
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two years old and starting in the finals. Your level
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of focus and just mindset. So yeah, did I follow orders?
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Yes? Was I also a person?
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I was willing to push boundaries and like push myself
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one hundred percent of those Team Jay Kid is I want.
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Ja Kidd is my basketball god, he truly is. I
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grew up in Phoenix, Arizona. I met Jason Kidd at
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like a camp when I was like a senior. There
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were some guys playing. He was doing a basketball at
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the Jason Kidd basketball camp. He's playing for the Suns.
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So there were some pros playing at the school not
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far away from me. So I was a player at
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the time, so they invited me over. So I got
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to meet Jason Kidd when I was a senior and
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he dropped me off at home right after. Yeah, he
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literally dropped me off after his camp. He dropped me off.
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Had this big yellow hummer, so he dropped me off
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and I'm sitting here like, oh my god, this is
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Jason Kidd. But I was like an athlete. I was
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a runner, so I would watch Magic Johnson I was
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born in La Matgic Johnson was my favorite player. Jason
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Kidd gets dropped off in Phoenix. I'm watching the Suns.
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They're huge. I get to meet Jason Kidd and I
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met Channing Fry at that same basketball camp. He was fourteen,
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I was seventeen. I say all that to say is
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I go through college and then all of a sudden,
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I get traded. I get drafted by the Rockets, traded
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to the Nets, and.
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I'm like, damn the Nets.
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And the next day it was we have a trade
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to announce. Stefan Maberry and Jason Kidd have just been traded.
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I promise you. I almost wrecked my car. It's driving
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on the highway. I was like, am, either I'm going
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to get to play at home or I'm going to
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get to play with Jason Kidd.
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And that was no lie.
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He and I owe everything to him, the teaching of
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the game. Like people talk about me being like joking
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about me being a ref. That's because when I was
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a rookie, Jason Kidd was like, Hey, come meet the refs.
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Talk to them. They're good people. Get to know them.
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So I like, so as a rookie, hi Hi, rich
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your name, I'm Richard, So I like and JKD would
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be like, hey, if my rookie gets out of line,
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let me know. These are veteran things. And so from
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that space, it was like building a relationship with the
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referees and just the league, and it was just everything
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that I learned in basketball I learned from Jkid.
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What are the things now? You talked about being young,
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and we see a lot of young guys on this
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NETS team, young guys in the league. For you, what
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were some of those most pivotal things that you look
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at now in terms of development, in terms of becoming
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a pro that you think are the most important.
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Well, I think just having veterans around you. I was
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twenty one when I got drafted. I was the youngest
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guy on the team, and then I was the youngest
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guy on the team till like my third year. So
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but I'm twenty two, twenty three, and so from that standpoint,
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you're looking at.
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Who else was your teammates, who else was vets that you.
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Really Lucius Harris, Aaron Aaron Williams, like these were guys
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that taught you how to be a man. It wasn't
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just like these guys were twenty eight, they had kids,
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they had families, so they would teach you how to
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show up, how to do things, cause you're learning. I'm
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twenty one, and I'm around twenty one year olds in college.
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Now I'm around grown men that are showing you how
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to survive in this league. So the value from just experience,
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how to deal with media, how to deal with people,
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how to deal with all of the things that come
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with Oh, your family's gonna ask you, young fella, don't
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you know? Those are the things that like have like
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having those guys around. Now you get these teams and
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everyone is twenty five and under, and you're like, there's
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so much value lost in that.
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When did you learn how to deal with the media.
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Aaron, When did I learn how to deal with the media?
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Last year?
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I don't think I ever learned how to deal with
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the media, if we're being really, really honest. No, when
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you get into the New York I'll take you back
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to Derek Jeter. You learn in the New York media
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you can't talk, you can't say anything. There's New York Posts,
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there's the Daily News, there's New York.
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Times, there's all these things. So you learn that you
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have to be very calculated, very you know. Sure. Now,
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was I a person that pushed the boundaries in that space? Yes?
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But I think if you were a Nets fan and
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you file that era, I wasn't saying crazy stuff.
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Was I saying crazy stuff? Yes?
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But I wasn't saying crazy stuff. I wasn't given bulletin
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board material. I was never criticizing my teammates or my coach.
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That was not the crazy stuff.
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I would say, what were your favorite Like you think
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back of those times, whether it's games, whether it's practices,
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what are the things that stand out most?
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Just the bus One of my favorite Nets memories of
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all time is we clinched and I think we were
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in Orlando. We clinched and we were all in the
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hallway like what do we do? Like like we were
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a team that no one ever knew that would get here.
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We get to the end of the season, we clinched
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number one seed. There's like three or four games left
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and we know the next game we're gonna start resting guys.
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But we have like an off day, so we're.
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Like, should we go out? What do we do?
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And it was like to watch all of the guys
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and kind of we were just kind of in the
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hallway talking. There's no text messages, there's no any of
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that stuff, so we're just kind of like we're all shocked,
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and it's just like the camaraderie is what you miss. Yes,
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the games, the competition, but the buses, the excitements. I
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remember we won twelve games in a row. We lost
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a game and then we were driving to Chicago and
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everybody was like, well, let's all go out, And those
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are the moments that like as a twenty five year old,
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as a twenty eight year old, you look back at
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forty five and you're like, those really were like the
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best time.
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How do you feel like things have changed in the league?
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You're around it a lot now.
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What's different now?
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I think when you got to the league there was
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more of I just want to prove I belong and
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I want to show I belong. Now it's like how
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long can I belong?
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Right?
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So guys like they don't want to push their bodies
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too far. If there's this, they're the way they're managing
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players and their time and their games were Before it
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was like if you didn't play seventy games, you weren't
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considered a durable player, and that was going to affect
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you in your contract.
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That was a real thing.
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So just showing up, who could put their bodies together,
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who could depend I think that's what's changed. I think
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there's a management more style of players that's different.
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I mean, think about, though you're talking about someone else,
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you played Lebron and winning a title.
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With him and through the course. I mean, your career
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is a special one, given how.
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Much success you had, all the players you played with,
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the way in which you were adaptable, given what teams
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you were on. But to think about capping off towards
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the end, to have that moment, Yeah, how do you
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frame that?
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I frame it as in like, I am a basketball nerd.
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I'm a basketball fan. I was watching games by myself
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at fourteen fifteen, watching Marv Albert and NBC and the
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triple headers, and I was that kid that was glued
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to the TV on Saturdays and Sundays at night. That
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was my weekend. So I was such a nerd. So
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like for me understanding Michael Jordan and then knowing Lebron
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being in the same area, but then watching him from
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up close and being his teammates and seeing the amount
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of time and energy and pressure that was on him consistently.
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They're just a tremendous amount of respect. So the basketball
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nerd in me is like, it's it's really cool to
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watch the greatest or one of the greatest of all
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time work his craft and be a part and contributing
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to you know, being on the same team and contributing
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towards the same goal. The basketball nerd kid in me,
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that is like my dream.
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Devin Harris was on the pod. Oh good, he spoke
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very highly of you.
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Those are all lies. Yeah, don't believe it what he says.
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I would agree with that.
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What's the dynamic of that now? And even thinking about
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through the course of being teammates with guys, still seeing them,
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the friendships that you have built, how does that continue
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to like grow and flourish and even just being around
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people now knowing that you've had so many of those
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shared experiences.
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Well, I think it's it's I think there was a
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nets era that was very similar to a college experience.
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So like my best friends in college, even if you
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aren't close like Gilbert and I or Luke Walton and myself,
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there's so many guys that Jason Terry that we went
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to the same university, so we have a fraternity. There's
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a Nets fraternity, and I remember Jason ka got traded
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for Devin Harris and then Devin got there and he
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was a little bit younger, and I got to be like, Hey,
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this is who you can hang out with, this is
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who you can't hang out with.
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This is what the way that goes. Here's the schedule.
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Do you need some help?
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And so like Devin and I, you know, connected and
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had a really good bond.
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But like for me, I was really.
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Happy for all the success he had, but also just
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that that friendship, you know, my friendship with Jason Collins.
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He's one of my closest friends. Brian Scot Labrini, Brian
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Scott brings on our team for like three years and
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like I still look at him as my draft mate,
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my brother.
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I've loved all of his success.
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So like that's the part is there there was that
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that generation of Nets, that that there was a unique
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core in kind of a brotherhood that kind of still maintains.
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How do you describe Vince Carter?
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Oh, Vince is the legend. Like again, people don't understand
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the mindsets of athletes. Vince came to us and he
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was banged up, he was hurt. He was just you know,
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really trying to get out of the Toronto and he
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showed up and it was like, bro, I got you.
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J Kid got you. You go be you.
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And he was him like, I'll never forget Jason Collins.
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I was on a bit of a tear and because
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Jason Kidd was hurt the start of the season, so
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I was on a tear and Jason Collins finally gave
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me his approval. He's like, Okay, you're playing pretty good.
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So then we trade for Vince and Jason Collins was hurt,
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but we trade for Vince, and like about a month
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or two into Vince, he goes, hey, you were pretty good,
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but he's different.
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I'm like I know right, I'm like, yo, he's really different.
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So it was like me and Vince did a Nike
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commercial years before that, and then obviously we're on the
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same team. And like Vince was as an athlete, as
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a dunker, a person that evolved his game, Like he
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was that guy that you looked up to if you
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wanted to play with somebody, you wanted to play with,
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Magic j Kids, Steve Nash, if you looked up as
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like who was a dominant athlete. It was the Kobe.
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The Vince is the t Max, you know, so to
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get to play with him and to learn from him.
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Like it was amazing.
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Do you miss playing?
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I tell this people all the time. I don't miss
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being thirty to thirty eight when you're working hours and
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hours a day to like keep your body together to
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go compete. I missed the twenty one to twenty nine
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where like your body is as strong as it can be.
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You're playing, you're doing yes, But ultimately I think I
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missed a camaraderie, the brotherhood, being around like minded people.
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That's the part that I probably missed the most.
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You're doing incredible work in the broadcast world. You've got
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a show that you named after yourself, The Richard Show,
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other podcasts you call the NBA Finals. Like, for as
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much as we do, we joke and we give you
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a hard time and you are kind.
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Of Yeah, I'm easy target.
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But I always say this, like when you first came
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to nets on, Yes, I was so because we kind
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of knew each other. I'd covered you a little when
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you were playing, but barely. You were one of the
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greatest teammates from Jump like you truly were you? And
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we see so many people get into this profession that
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have knowledge, have background, have experience. You poured yourself into
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the work.
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Thank you poured yourself into the work.
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You wanted to learn everything, you want to critique, you
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want to control, like you, It was very clear to
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see why you were so successful as a player, because
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that's exactly how you approached broadcasting. And I was blown away.
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And I don't think people truly you. You do, you make
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jokes and you make fun of yourself, but I don't
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think people understand just how seriously you take one year
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craft of this into the people around you, and how
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you want to make others better and just be a
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part of the team. So I say that to say,
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like the way in which you have grown in this
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broad I like listening to I was so proud because
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I felt like, look at I.
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Learned, Like I promise you and I told you this.
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I was like, hey, sitting next to you help prepared
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me for those moments. And I will always be appreciative
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of the nets and you and like like I'm like
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our friendship is like we want to make each other better.
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And then you know, but.
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What what what was it like getting into broadcasting and
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decided did you even know that?
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Like I did?
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I did because I didn't want to coach. I did
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too much intensity. I will say, what is it like
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getting into.
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Wanted to coach?
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No? Oh god, no, heck no, that's too much work.
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I'll tell you what. There was a person that I've
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known like my entire NBA career, my entire NBA career,
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and when I got into broadcasting, I saw him like
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a year or two into broadcasting, and he was like.
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Hey, you're doing a pretty good job. I'm not gonna
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lie I took the under. You know that person was?
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It was Aaron Harris right there, he knows who. He
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said it to me.
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He goes, appreciate you doing a pretty good job. And
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he only said that because he knows me. He's like, honestly,
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you've done a really good job.
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Rich I might have.
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Taken the under in the podcast career, but I've been impressed.
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But that was the fun thing is that Aaron's also
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the same person that saw me shooting every single day
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before practice after practice all the years. There was never
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a day that before practice or after practice I didn't
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shoot even when I wasn't making him making him so
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I think Aaron saw and I say this, I think
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a lot of people saw that I was still goofy
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and crazy on the court. But the work was there, preparation,
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the effort, the want was there. But I enjoyed having
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fun and I tried to bring that to broadcasting. And
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I was lucky to have teammates like you and Ian
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and Ryan and great like so many great people that
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allowed me to be super locked in but also to
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have fun.
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What's been the hardest part the travel, being away from
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my kids, that's been the hardest part.
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Like the hardest part from the space of like catching
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red eye flights to stay with them, to catch six
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am flights back to go to the soccer game. That's
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the part that's like, sometimes you get a little tired.
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What do you think you look at and even now
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but players? But we get so used to watching games,
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there's so many games on, But what do you think
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people don't see about the life of NBA players or
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just the challenges that go along with it. You talk
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about shooting and shooting every day and you're playing and
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not playing like looking now, and just the development of
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players or even young players in the league, like this
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NETS team, Like what are some of those things behind
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the curtain that are the biggest hurdles to continuing to
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find success in this league.
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Players have the hardest time than they've ever had with
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social media, with podcasts and now gambling. I think those moments,
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like those things have added so much more pressure. You
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have people going into the games that want to hit
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a parlay or you're going into a space where people
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are like they're mad at you because you missed it.
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There are people that go into it from a podcast,
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so they're looking at things, should they trade this person
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and this person and a clip goes viral so players
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don't just and then social media, so there's so many
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different avenues I think to affect players mentally and emotionally.
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That before it was like, as long as you didn't
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read the paper, as long as you're internal in sports center,
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you were going.
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To be fine.
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It's not that way anymore. They're just inundated with information
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and criticism or praise, which can be equally as bad.
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So a lot of these things I think go into
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and that's why mental health is such a different thing,
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because it's a real thing players in the eighties nineties.
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That's why I like Lebron is the most covered athletes
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in the history of American sports because of the generation
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in which he grew up in. So I think that
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part in offering some of these younger players more grace,
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giving them more time. I wish they spent more time
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developing mentally and emotionally in college, right, But it's like
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the way the system is, it doesn't.
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So we're giving.
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Nineteen year olds millions of dollars hyper criticism and then
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seeing if they can survive, and that, in any feel
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is difficult. If you're twenty one and you have an education,
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if you've been through some moments, you lost the big
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game at UCLA, where you underperformed, and you handled some criticism,
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it's easier to go there your next year with you know,
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with a certain level of intensity, and I don't think
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today's generation of athletes have that.
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That's very insightful and very.
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See people forget like I'm goofy at, you know, but
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then I also.
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Like you you got a last time.
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Then with that being said, we got a couple more things.
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But this Nets organization, where where things are at, where
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this team is at the rebuild year. We know how
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much you care about you being a part of the
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Nets family. What have you seen through the course of
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the season in them and hopes for them and the
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steps that they're going to take them.
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I'm going to start one with we have an outstanding coach.
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We have an outstanding coach that I believe you know,
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there's certain times this is how teams got Wimby. This
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is how teams got Lebron Like you go through those
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tough times, you trade players to get assets and you
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go with the young team and you know, you look
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at Oklahoma City, this is how they got Chet. If
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you were going to build, this is the way to build.
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And it's hard to do that. But for people that
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truly care about the organization and Brooklyn and the Nets,
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and you know what I think it means to the community.
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I think this is.
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Part of the process, so I'm very supportive of it.
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When I look at how my first year with the
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Nets had the seventh pick in the draft. You only
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get the seventh pick in the draft if you're struggling.
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But the seventh pick turned into thirteen, eighteen, and twenty two,
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and then that was myself, that was Jason Collins, that
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was brand Armstrong, that was Brian Scalabrini.
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You trade for Jason.
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Kidd, all of a sudden, your Nets, your team is
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off and running for the next eight years. So this
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is part of the process. But I do believe that
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we have the right people in place to guide us
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through this difficult time, which is a part of it into.
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That next space.
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You're with Jordy in Denver.
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I was with and in Cleveland. He's a champion three
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to one?
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What have you seen of him as a head coach?
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Knowing him for as long as you did.
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I think x's and o's with coaches. I think when
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you get to a certain level that becomes very important.
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I think when you're where the Nets team is, I
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think people that are invested in the humans in which
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they're coaching, because I don't care what you say if
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you're losing ten games, if you're you know, if you're
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losing fifty sixty, like, you have to be investing into
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the emotional space of these young men because eventually you
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have to come out of it and be like, hey,
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I know we lost thirty games last fifty games last year.
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This year we're going to be better.
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Have I emotionally you equipped you for that journey up?
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And I think Jordi is such an amazing human being,
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family man. I think there's so many positive things about him. Right,
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you can't judge a person on x's and o's when
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you don't have the talent, right, But I judge a
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person on how do they connect with the team, how
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do they connect with people?
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Because being a head coach in this.
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League is not just about x's and it's like, can
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you manage people and personalities and energies over the course
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of eight nine months? And I think Jordie is really
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really skilled in that space. And then you know, I
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think he's the guy that can help build the next generation.
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All Right, we've had you be too kind and too
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serious for so it's time not for Hot Ticket presented
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gonna play a game. Okay, it's player one or player two.
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You're gonna pick, and Winter stays and we're gonna keep going.
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Oh ready, I like this.
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So winner stays on. Funniest NBA player Kevin Garnett or Boban,
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Oh Boban, bo Boban or Evan Turner, Oh Boban, Bobon
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or Lebron.
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Oh Bron's funny. That's close.
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But Boban, what makes Boban so funny?
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Every time You're willing to miss chicken nuggets just to
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give the opposing crowd free nuggets?
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I respect that.
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That's some I would do miss misses right, And he
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was in john Wick Love John Wick John Wick two.
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First of all, Bobon or Shack.
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Shack is I'll give it to Shack. Shack has been
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making us laugh for forty years.
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Okay, Uh, Shack or Charles Barklay.
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I'm gonna say sho like in studio, Charles, I'm gonna
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go with I'm gonna go with Shack because he does
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so many funny, random videos and.
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Random moments that I wouldn't But yeah, with the kids,
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when the kids are cracking jokes is so Shack. So
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we're sticking with Shack or Channing Fry.
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Oh, Shack, Channing Fry is up there.
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But Shack is Shack or Blake Griffin.
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Again, Blake Griffin's body of work is not large enough.
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Blake is funny as Blake is funny. Blake is funny
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as I'll give him. He's a worthy adversary. But I'm
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gonna go with.
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Shack, Shack or Jeff Tigue.
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I got who different type of funny. I'm gonna go
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with Shack podcast.
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Yeah, Jeff T's podcast is outstanding. Those boys are doing
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a great job.
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Shack or Richard Jefferson.
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Oh, No, one's funny with me?
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Absolutely Like like again, Shack is outstanding. He is one
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of the goats in sports media, not just basketball. But yeah,
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no one's funnier than me, says I don't think everybody
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should agree with me. I don't think anybody should agree
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with me, but that's my opinion.
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This has been another edition of nets Pod with Sarahcuse Sack,
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presented by Ticketmaster. Don't Forget You can catch any former
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episodes anywhere you get your podcasts and subscribe to the
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next YouTube channel until we see you next time.
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Big thanks to Richard Jefferson.
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Thank you
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Welcome into Netspod with Sarahkustack, presented my tickeond Master. I'm
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Sarah Kustack and I don't know what to tell you
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about this next guest. Normally when I introduce guests, I say,
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I'm so thrilled to tell you this is one of
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my favorite people.
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I can't wait.
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Yeah, and unfortunately we have Richard Jefferson.
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Hi Net's family. I love you guys. You guys are
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my favorite.
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You really are in all sincerity. Thank you for your time.
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You're home welcoming us in here in this beautiful uh
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beautiful place.
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That road.
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You gots to see a little insight into your life.
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But more than anything, we just appreciate you and a
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seventeen year NBA career. Yes, but I want you to
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to take us back we could see your boys. You're
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an amazing father, You're an amazing friend. You're one of
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the dearest. What was what was Rich like when he
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was a little rich Because we've been we've been waiting
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on you to mature.
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Okay, this is what I would say. I'm the youngest
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of three boys. So if we're gonna have that moment
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like I'm the youngest of three boys, I have brothers
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two years older, seven years older. My mom worked very
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very hard, but mom and stepdad both worked two jobs.
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So my three brothers, I was the I was the
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baby boy, So I'm the one always starting stuff, messing
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with people. That was just always my energy. That was
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the fun thing. The sarcasm. I think that kind of
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started as I got older, more of like a protectiveness,
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if you will, because I was so chill. Because I
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was so whatever, people would also like, always mess with me.
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But that's really who I am. I'm really just chill, fun, supportive.
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It's amazing to think about you coming in and your
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first couple of years going to the finals, Like, what
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what was that like for you? Understanding that you reached
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this pinnacle of making the NBA and then that's your
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introduction to the league.
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I'm an arrogant person right from a confident standpoint. Aaron
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is smiling again. I went to the national championship game
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at Arizona, and then the next year I went to
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two finals. So I was like, this is just what
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I do. It doesn't matter if I was a role
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player coming off the bench. They were like one of
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the things I remember with the Nets is that they
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they had no success. They had no success ever. They
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had aba success, They had a little bit, but never
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like a genuine team. And so I remember getting there
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and they was like, well, no Nets team ever did
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mind you.
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I had j Kidd and Kenyon behind me, So I
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was I was.
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I was the little brother that was out front talking trash,
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knowing I had big brothers behind me. So when you say, like,
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what was it like to come in, I was like, yeah,
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we gonna beat your tail because of them, right. So
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I always had like a natural fund. But it was
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fun because I came from a team environment at Arizona.
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to change the franchise led by Jason Kidd.
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job was to be a soldier in following his lead.
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you follow those people stay in line very well.
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I do. I do follow.
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I actually do follow orders, but I have you have
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to be a little crazy in this league. You have
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to be a little bit different, to be twenty one
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years old and playing in the finals, to be twenty
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two years old and starting in the finals. Your level
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of focus and just mindset. So yeah, did I follow orders?
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Yes? Was I also a person?
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I was willing to push boundaries and like push myself
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one hundred percent of those Team Jay Kid is I want.
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grew up in Phoenix, Arizona. I met Jason Kidd at
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like a camp when I was like a senior. There
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were some guys playing. He was doing a basketball at
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the Jason Kidd basketball camp. He's playing for the Suns.
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far away from me. So I was a player at
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the time, so they invited me over. So I got
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to meet Jason Kidd when I was a senior and
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he dropped me off at home right after. Yeah, he
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literally dropped me off after his camp. He dropped me off.
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and I'm sitting here like, oh my god, this is
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Jason Kidd. But I was like an athlete. I was
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a runner, so I would watch Magic Johnson I was
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Kidd gets dropped off in Phoenix. I'm watching the Suns.
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They're huge. I get to meet Jason Kidd and I
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met Channing Fry at that same basketball camp. He was fourteen,
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I was seventeen. I say all that to say is
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I go through college and then all of a sudden,
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I get traded. I get drafted by the Rockets, traded
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to the Nets, and.
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I'm like, damn the Nets.
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to announce. Stefan Maberry and Jason Kidd have just been traded.
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I promise you. I almost wrecked my car. It's driving
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on the highway. I was like, am, either I'm going
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to get to play at home or I'm going to
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get to play with Jason Kidd.
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He and I owe everything to him, the teaching of
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the game. Like people talk about me being like joking
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about me being a ref. That's because when I was
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a rookie, Jason Kidd was like, Hey, come meet the refs.
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So I like, so as a rookie, hi Hi, rich
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your name, I'm Richard, So I like and JKD would
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be like, hey, if my rookie gets out of line,
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let me know. These are veteran things. And so from
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that space, it was like building a relationship with the
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referees and just the league, and it was just everything
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that I learned in basketball I learned from Jkid.
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What are the things now? You talked about being young,
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and we see a lot of young guys on this
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NETS team, young guys in the league. For you, what
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were some of those most pivotal things that you look
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at now in terms of development, in terms of becoming
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a pro that you think are the most important.
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twenty one when I got drafted. I was the youngest
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guy on the team, and then I was the youngest
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guy on the team till like my third year. So
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but I'm twenty two, twenty three, and so from that standpoint,
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you're looking at.
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Who else was your teammates, who else was vets that you.
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Really Lucius Harris, Aaron Aaron Williams, like these were guys
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that taught you how to be a man. It wasn't
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just like these guys were twenty eight, they had kids,
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they had families, so they would teach you how to
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show up, how to do things, cause you're learning. I'm
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twenty one, and I'm around twenty one year olds in college.
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Now I'm around grown men that are showing you how
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to survive in this league. So the value from just experience,
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how to deal with media, how to deal with people,
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how to deal with all of the things that come
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with Oh, your family's gonna ask you, young fella, don't
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you know? Those are the things that like have like
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having those guys around. Now you get these teams and
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everyone is twenty five and under, and you're like, there's
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so much value lost in that.
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When did you learn how to deal with the media.
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Aaron, When did I learn how to deal with the media?
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Last year?
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I don't think I ever learned how to deal with
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the media, if we're being really, really honest. No, when
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you get into the New York I'll take you back
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to Derek Jeter. You learn in the New York media
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you can't talk, you can't say anything. There's New York Posts,
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there's the Daily News, there's New York.
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Times, there's all these things. So you learn that you
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have to be very calculated, very you know. Sure. Now,
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was I a person that pushed the boundaries in that space? Yes?
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But I think if you were a Nets fan and
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you file that era, I wasn't saying crazy stuff.
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Was I saying crazy stuff? Yes?
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But I wasn't saying crazy stuff. I wasn't given bulletin
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board material. I was never criticizing my teammates or my coach.
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That was not the crazy stuff.
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I would say, what were your favorite Like you think
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back of those times, whether it's games, whether it's practices,
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what are the things that stand out most?
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Just the bus One of my favorite Nets memories of
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all time is we clinched and I think we were
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in Orlando. We clinched and we were all in the
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hallway like what do we do? Like like we were
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a team that no one ever knew that would get here.
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number one seed. There's like three or four games left
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and we know the next game we're gonna start resting guys.
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Like, should we go out? What do we do?
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and kind of we were just kind of in the
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hallway talking. There's no text messages, there's no any of
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that stuff, so we're just kind of like we're all shocked,
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and it's just like the camaraderie is what you miss. Yes,
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the games, the competition, but the buses, the excitements. I
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remember we won twelve games in a row. We lost
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a game and then we were driving to Chicago and
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everybody was like, well, let's all go out, And those
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are the moments that like as a twenty five year old,
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as a twenty eight year old, you look back at
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forty five and you're like, those really were like the
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best time.
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How do you feel like things have changed in the league?
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You're around it a lot now.
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What's different now?
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more of I just want to prove I belong and
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I want to show I belong. Now it's like how
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long can I belong?
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Right?
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So guys like they don't want to push their bodies
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too far. If there's this, they're the way they're managing
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players and their time and their games were Before it
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was like if you didn't play seventy games, you weren't
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considered a durable player, and that was going to affect
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you in your contract.
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That was a real thing.
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who could depend I think that's what's changed. I think
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there's a management more style of players that's different.
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you played Lebron and winning a title.
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is a special one, given how.
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Much success you had, all the players you played with,
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the way in which you were adaptable, given what teams
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you were on. But to think about capping off towards
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the end, to have that moment, Yeah, how do you
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frame that?
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I frame it as in like, I am a basketball nerd.
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I'm a basketball fan. I was watching games by myself
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at fourteen fifteen, watching Marv Albert and NBC and the
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triple headers, and I was that kid that was glued
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to the TV on Saturdays and Sundays at night. That
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was my weekend. So I was such a nerd. So
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like for me understanding Michael Jordan and then knowing Lebron
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being in the same area, but then watching him from
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up close and being his teammates and seeing the amount
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of time and energy and pressure that was on him consistently.
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They're just a tremendous amount of respect. So the basketball
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nerd in me is like, it's it's really cool to
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watch the greatest or one of the greatest of all
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time work his craft and be a part and contributing
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to you know, being on the same team and contributing
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towards the same goal. The basketball nerd kid in me,
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that is like my dream.
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Devin Harris was on the pod. Oh good, he spoke
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very highly of you.
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Those are all lies. Yeah, don't believe it what he says.
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I would agree with that.
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What's the dynamic of that now? And even thinking about
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through the course of being teammates with guys, still seeing them,
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the friendships that you have built, how does that continue
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to like grow and flourish and even just being around
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people now knowing that you've had so many of those
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shared experiences.
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nets era that was very similar to a college experience.
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So like my best friends in college, even if you
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aren't close like Gilbert and I or Luke Walton and myself,
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there's so many guys that Jason Terry that we went
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to the same university, so we have a fraternity. There's
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a Nets fraternity, and I remember Jason ka got traded
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for Devin Harris and then Devin got there and he
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was a little bit younger, and I got to be like, Hey,
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this is who you can hang out with, this is
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who you can't hang out with.
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This is what the way that goes. Here's the schedule.
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Do you need some help?
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And so like Devin and I, you know, connected and
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had a really good bond.
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But like for me, I was really.
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Happy for all the success he had, but also just
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that that friendship, you know, my friendship with Jason Collins.
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He's one of my closest friends. Brian Scot Labrini, Brian
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Scott brings on our team for like three years and
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like I still look at him as my draft mate,
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my brother.
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I've loved all of his success.
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So like that's the part is there there was that
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that generation of Nets, that that there was a unique
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core in kind of a brotherhood that kind of still maintains.
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How do you describe Vince Carter?
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Oh, Vince is the legend. Like again, people don't understand
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the mindsets of athletes. Vince came to us and he
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was banged up, he was hurt. He was just you know,
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really trying to get out of the Toronto and he
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showed up and it was like, bro, I got you.
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J Kid got you. You go be you.
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And he was him like, I'll never forget Jason Collins.
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I was on a bit of a tear and because
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Jason Kidd was hurt the start of the season, so
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I was on a tear and Jason Collins finally gave
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me his approval. He's like, Okay, you're playing pretty good.
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So then we trade for Vince and Jason Collins was hurt,
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but we trade for Vince, and like about a month
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or two into Vince, he goes, hey, you were pretty good,
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but he's different.
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I'm like I know right, I'm like, yo, he's really different.
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So it was like me and Vince did a Nike
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commercial years before that, and then obviously we're on the
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same team. And like Vince was as an athlete, as
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a dunker, a person that evolved his game, Like he
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was that guy that you looked up to if you
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wanted to play with somebody, you wanted to play with,
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Magic j Kids, Steve Nash, if you looked up as
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like who was a dominant athlete. It was the Kobe.
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The Vince is the t Max, you know, so to
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get to play with him and to learn from him.
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Like it was amazing.
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Do you miss playing?
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I tell this people all the time. I don't miss
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being thirty to thirty eight when you're working hours and
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hours a day to like keep your body together to
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go compete. I missed the twenty one to twenty nine
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where like your body is as strong as it can be.
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You're playing, you're doing yes, But ultimately I think I
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missed a camaraderie, the brotherhood, being around like minded people.
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That's the part that I probably missed the most.
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You're doing incredible work in the broadcast world. You've got
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a show that you named after yourself, The Richard Show,
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other podcasts you call the NBA Finals. Like, for as
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much as we do, we joke and we give you
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a hard time and you are kind.
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Of Yeah, I'm easy target.
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But I always say this, like when you first came
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to nets on, Yes, I was so because we kind
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of knew each other. I'd covered you a little when
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you were playing, but barely. You were one of the
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greatest teammates from Jump like you truly were you? And
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we see so many people get into this profession that
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have knowledge, have background, have experience. You poured yourself into
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the work.
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Thank you poured yourself into the work.
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You wanted to learn everything, you want to critique, you
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want to control, like you, It was very clear to
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see why you were so successful as a player, because
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that's exactly how you approached broadcasting. And I was blown away.
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And I don't think people truly you. You do, you make
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jokes and you make fun of yourself, but I don't
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think people understand just how seriously you take one year
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craft of this into the people around you, and how
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you want to make others better and just be a
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part of the team. So I say that to say,
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like the way in which you have grown in this
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broad I like listening to I was so proud because
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I felt like, look at I.
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Learned, Like I promise you and I told you this.
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I was like, hey, sitting next to you help prepared
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me for those moments. And I will always be appreciative
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of the nets and you and like like I'm like
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our friendship is like we want to make each other better.
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And then you know, but.
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What what what was it like getting into broadcasting and
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decided did you even know that?
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Like I did?
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I did because I didn't want to coach. I did
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too much intensity. I will say, what is it like
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getting into.
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Wanted to coach?
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No? Oh god, no, heck no, that's too much work.
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I'll tell you what. There was a person that I've
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known like my entire NBA career, my entire NBA career,
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and when I got into broadcasting, I saw him like
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a year or two into broadcasting, and he was like.
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Hey, you're doing a pretty good job. I'm not gonna
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lie I took the under. You know that person was?
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It was Aaron Harris right there, he knows who. He
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said it to me.
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He goes, appreciate you doing a pretty good job. And
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he only said that because he knows me. He's like, honestly,
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you've done a really good job.
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Rich I might have.
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Taken the under in the podcast career, but I've been impressed.
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But that was the fun thing is that Aaron's also
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the same person that saw me shooting every single day
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before practice after practice all the years. There was never
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a day that before practice or after practice I didn't
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shoot even when I wasn't making him making him so
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I think Aaron saw and I say this, I think
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a lot of people saw that I was still goofy
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and crazy on the court. But the work was there, preparation,
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the effort, the want was there. But I enjoyed having
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fun and I tried to bring that to broadcasting. And
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I was lucky to have teammates like you and Ian
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and Ryan and great like so many great people that
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allowed me to be super locked in but also to
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have fun.
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What's been the hardest part the travel, being away from
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my kids, that's been the hardest part.
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Like the hardest part from the space of like catching
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red eye flights to stay with them, to catch six
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am flights back to go to the soccer game. That's
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the part that's like, sometimes you get a little tired.
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What do you think you look at and even now
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but players? But we get so used to watching games,
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there's so many games on, But what do you think
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people don't see about the life of NBA players or
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just the challenges that go along with it. You talk
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about shooting and shooting every day and you're playing and
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not playing like looking now, and just the development of
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players or even young players in the league, like this
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NETS team, Like what are some of those things behind
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the curtain that are the biggest hurdles to continuing to
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find success in this league.
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Players have the hardest time than they've ever had with
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social media, with podcasts and now gambling. I think those moments,
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like those things have added so much more pressure. You
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have people going into the games that want to hit
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a parlay or you're going into a space where people
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are like they're mad at you because you missed it.
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There are people that go into it from a podcast,
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so they're looking at things, should they trade this person
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and this person and a clip goes viral so players
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don't just and then social media, so there's so many
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different avenues I think to affect players mentally and emotionally.
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That before it was like, as long as you didn't
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read the paper, as long as you're internal in sports center,
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you were going.
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To be fine.
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It's not that way anymore. They're just inundated with information
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and criticism or praise, which can be equally as bad.
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So a lot of these things I think go into
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and that's why mental health is such a different thing,
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because it's a real thing players in the eighties nineties.
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That's why I like Lebron is the most covered athletes
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in the history of American sports because of the generation
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in which he grew up in. So I think that
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part in offering some of these younger players more grace,
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giving them more time. I wish they spent more time
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developing mentally and emotionally in college, right, But it's like
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the way the system is, it doesn't.
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So we're giving.
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Nineteen year olds millions of dollars hyper criticism and then
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seeing if they can survive, and that, in any feel
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is difficult. If you're twenty one and you have an education,
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if you've been through some moments, you lost the big
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game at UCLA, where you underperformed, and you handled some criticism,
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it's easier to go there your next year with you know,
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with a certain level of intensity, and I don't think
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today's generation of athletes have that.
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That's very insightful and very.
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See people forget like I'm goofy at, you know, but
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then I also.
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Like you you got a last time.
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Then with that being said, we got a couple more things.
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But this Nets organization, where where things are at, where
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this team is at the rebuild year. We know how
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much you care about you being a part of the
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Nets family. What have you seen through the course of
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the season in them and hopes for them and the
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steps that they're going to take them.
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I'm going to start one with we have an outstanding coach.
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We have an outstanding coach that I believe you know,
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there's certain times this is how teams got Wimby. This
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is how teams got Lebron Like you go through those
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tough times, you trade players to get assets and you
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go with the young team and you know, you look
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at Oklahoma City, this is how they got Chet. If
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you were going to build, this is the way to build.
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And it's hard to do that. But for people that
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truly care about the organization and Brooklyn and the Nets,
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and you know what I think it means to the community.
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I think this is.
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Part of the process, so I'm very supportive of it.
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When I look at how my first year with the
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Nets had the seventh pick in the draft. You only
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get the seventh pick in the draft if you're struggling.
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But the seventh pick turned into thirteen, eighteen, and twenty two,
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and then that was myself, that was Jason Collins, that
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was brand Armstrong, that was Brian Scalabrini.
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You trade for Jason.
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Kidd, all of a sudden, your Nets, your team is
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off and running for the next eight years. So this
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is part of the process. But I do believe that
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we have the right people in place to guide us
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through this difficult time, which is a part of it into.
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That next space.
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You're with Jordy in Denver.
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I was with and in Cleveland. He's a champion three
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to one?
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What have you seen of him as a head coach?
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Knowing him for as long as you did.
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I think x's and o's with coaches. I think when
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you get to a certain level that becomes very important.
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I think when you're where the Nets team is, I
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think people that are invested in the humans in which
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they're coaching, because I don't care what you say if
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you're losing ten games, if you're you know, if you're
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losing fifty sixty, like, you have to be investing into
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the emotional space of these young men because eventually you
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have to come out of it and be like, hey,
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I know we lost thirty games last fifty games last year.
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This year we're going to be better.
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Have I emotionally you equipped you for that journey up?
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And I think Jordi is such an amazing human being,
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family man. I think there's so many positive things about him. Right,
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you can't judge a person on x's and o's when
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you don't have the talent, right, But I judge a
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person on how do they connect with the team, how
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do they connect with people?
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Because being a head coach in this.
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League is not just about x's and it's like, can
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you manage people and personalities and energies over the course
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of eight nine months? And I think Jordie is really
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really skilled in that space. And then you know, I
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think he's the guy that can help build the next generation.
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All Right, we've had you be too kind and too
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serious for so it's time not for Hot Ticket presented
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by Ticketmaster. Experience your Nets Live with Ticketmaster, the official
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gonna play a game. Okay, it's player one or player two.
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You're gonna pick, and Winter stays and we're gonna keep going.
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Oh ready, I like this.
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So winner stays on. Funniest NBA player Kevin Garnett or Boban,
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Oh Boban, bo Boban or Evan Turner, Oh Boban, Bobon
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or Lebron.
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Oh Bron's funny. That's close.
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But Boban, what makes Boban so funny?
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Every time You're willing to miss chicken nuggets just to
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give the opposing crowd free nuggets?
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I respect that.
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That's some I would do miss misses right, And he
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was in john Wick Love John Wick John Wick two.
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First of all, Bobon or Shack.
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Shack is I'll give it to Shack. Shack has been
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making us laugh for forty years.
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Okay, Uh, Shack or Charles Barklay.
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I'm gonna say sho like in studio, Charles, I'm gonna
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go with I'm gonna go with Shack because he does
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so many funny, random videos and.
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Random moments that I wouldn't But yeah, with the kids,
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when the kids are cracking jokes is so Shack. So
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we're sticking with Shack or Channing Fry.
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Oh, Shack, Channing Fry is up there.
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But Shack is Shack or Blake Griffin.
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Again, Blake Griffin's body of work is not large enough.
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Blake is funny as Blake is funny. Blake is funny
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as I'll give him. He's a worthy adversary. But I'm
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gonna go with.
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Shack, Shack or Jeff Tigue.
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I got who different type of funny. I'm gonna go
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with Shack podcast.
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Yeah, Jeff T's podcast is outstanding. Those boys are doing
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a great job.
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Shack or Richard Jefferson.
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Oh, No, one's funny with me?
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Absolutely Like like again, Shack is outstanding. He is one
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of the goats in sports media, not just basketball. But yeah,
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no one's funnier than me, says I don't think everybody
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should agree with me. I don't think anybody should agree
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with me, but that's my opinion.
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This has been another edition of nets Pod with Sarahcuse Sack,
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presented by Ticketmaster. Don't Forget You can catch any former
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episodes anywhere you get your podcasts and subscribe to the
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next YouTube channel until we see you next time.
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Big thanks to Richard Jefferson.
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Thank you
