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[SPEAKER_03]: Can't we go back and talk about that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They cut can't grab as I in the wall.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, child died of all came out And was just like basically you can see nobody he me doing who's your coach your dance with Almost y'all see this only for us, so listen and so she Demanded that her scenes be cut or she will soon
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[SPEAKER_06]: Because honestly, she knows what them clips of her from the 70s and 80s look like.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Almost every clip of the two of them interacting is some flirty damn near, I'm, I, I, I don't want you right here, energy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And listen, we're not making a shit up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All you gotta do is go on the internet.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's go google it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The real life stuff is on there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm just like, love me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Every time I tell everyone's having a show, she's like, you know, my new come see it on me,
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[SPEAKER_06]: Every time every time and they be saying it and then she be hugging and hanging on them and dancing and round them and everything else And I'm like that's cool, but in the same playlist is you talk some about This Michael Jackson and Jason Farbe, he's not absolutely not This will not stand You can do that you talk to him, but who will you get so damn sexy cuz my what girl whoa By the end of this
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[SPEAKER_02]: I still feel the same way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I still feel the same way this man this man is 50 years old with dies and said I won't hurt who's at least 65 at the time of whatever she is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Take care of my kids.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not even my mother.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not even my mom.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I won't die in a wall.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Take care of my kids first.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This was his mom first.
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[SPEAKER_03]: His mom was first.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was after her.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was dying in a room and then a dying of a few witnesses.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, if if character was unable to take care of the kick, that's what's going down because he's a mom's boy So if cats can't do it they go died or I was I don't want to get he a mom's boy
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[SPEAKER_06]: He's an upside down.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He definitely was upside down.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That was like, what is, I mean, but I think naturally, I'm like, this is like, like, you have a crush on her because she's already a star.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And everybody, they make a crush on like, she's an OG Eric about do.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Don't look her in the eyes too long or some shit might happen kind of an energy.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So, I'm like, if you're a kid who has a crush on a star, that's not out of the norm, it's the fact that most people don't have access to these people.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Once they become adults.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Um, I was like, oh, I could see why she would be like, I don't really want that in the movie, but I'm like, but Greg, you did it, though.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I said, I don't want business.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But here's the thing that I did on the whole time movie.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Say it again, plus she's here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now I'm just saying, that's like if they did a more time movie, she and more her shady stuff would be very important to be shown, but it doesn't matter.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Hell no, she's not going to.
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[SPEAKER_06]: As far as we know, Ryan just took up the same daddy as Tracy Yellow's roles.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's what they have everybody believed, you know?
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[SPEAKER_06]: They really did.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was reading it the other day.
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[SPEAKER_06]: They had that girl trying to believe up until she was like 13 that she was also about racial.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I said, now,
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[SPEAKER_06]: Listen, I haven't seen a lot of things in my day.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what, dad's fucked up.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was just reading article by Pearce Jackson, but, okay, that's the other, that's the coin.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But because she, they was like, oh, this is your dad.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I know that girl was like, all right, now you're, let's be so fucker for real.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And it's not like she does, she looks like they all look like her.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Diana Ross and trick they all have similar faces, but she's just she's a beautiful brown skin woman Yeah, and she was like I look different than my brothers and sisters.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Thank you off of you know Let me know.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not fucking crazy But please Listen and then had them kids around it Build the whole relationship with Barry Gordy I'm sorry
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[SPEAKER_06]: and it's also brought more attention on herself now now because everybody is doing this deep diamond because you didn't just let the scenes play out it could have really just been y'all in studio 54 or six of us and nobody would have questioned it because these things happened
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[SPEAKER_06]: But that everybody is like, oh boy, what are you going to do?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, and now you're going to look at it like so, what, what is it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: If they're spoke, then it's got to be far.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So what is it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And now anybody going back and looking at these clips?
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[SPEAKER_06]: And they put pieces together talking about old age was in a relationship for real and then she broke up with them and but then she was just teasing them and I'm just like, girl.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We wouldn't have been here.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, some people would have pointed it out because the first time I've heard people talk about their relationship and how I was once he became an adult and how I've heard people call her groomer, all kinds of things.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That's not new, but I feel like it's even more amplified now because you waited right before the movie came out to be like, absolutely not.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That'd be so bad, I'm like, I'm just trying to show y'all about moving.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Pretty much.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She probably, she probably didn't even have that many scenes anywhere.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She probably had a studio 50-40 scene.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Probably a lot of the, a lot of the best scenes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And maybe, Motel 25, that's probably the most of her scenes probably.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Unless they shot something's other than that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, but...
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[SPEAKER_02]: Probably.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I think that, that sounds like... Maybe, I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And maybe, maybe she introduces them when they do ABC or something.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, instead of glad it's night, maybe it would have been dying at all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not
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[SPEAKER_03]: That wasn't the Apollo or you know where it's supposed to be they was in Chicago It's supposed to be their problem because they probably it's supposed to be their Listen, it's supposed to be a lot of things and they was not supposed to sing a song that didn't come out to three years later But here we are I know it even after four times of singing it is still by the you don't Yeah, either
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the practice, you know, it makes me even more upset that they have the nerve to want to add, like, to want to make it a lot of formus, not just a song.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like, they do actually do it as steps.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They do it as steps from the song.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, Joe told them they're steps.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Again.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Cook.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Now, again, I'm trying my best not to jump ahead.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But in the scene, when they're doing the talent show, and he's watching Jackie Wilson in American Dream, what did they do then?
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[SPEAKER_06]: They just did, um, twisted shout, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: What was wrong with twisted shout?
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's nothing wrong with twisted shout, right?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Because you got them dressed the same.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm like, bro, if you didn't want people to make comparisons between this and the mini series, then y'all shouldn't have did stuff that we, we have clearly seen in this mini series.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You got them dressed in the same outfits, maybe because that's what they really wore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm sure they also wore it at that, you know.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And they're attractive.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But I'm sure they also probably actually sing Twister Shout-To.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I call this song, I always just chose a song from that time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like kind of, you know, kind of thing, baby, I need to love something different.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, you know what I'm gotta do with that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Never can't say goodbye.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's choice.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It was a choice.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like it didn't have to be y'all got them singing it slow song They couldn't sing twist and shout again the only people I know been famous low in the Jackson's is the athlete So I mean why not right right But okay, but I would that be sick cuz we'll get to the degree uh what are some of the things That we actually like for the movie though before we get to the stuff that we cleared and I like for the movie What's the other things that we've put us on then we like
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[SPEAKER_03]: Honestly, I started off, I did like the capturing, the more human side of Michael, but also his loneliness, and his left for animals.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_03]: As people would look at it as weird, and so they would direct the lawment to giraffe.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You know, both of them, and I'm on the might want to face that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, both of them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll tell you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, both of these news is like, in my eight-know-way,
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[SPEAKER_03]: my eight no way yeah I was just like what did you say far he wasn't using the kid's nobody yeah I'm fair you know about I was just like you know obviously you know that there's something there but I'm just saying but you know he's being lonely and then like when they were able to show he's
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[SPEAKER_03]: that Eddie had.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I love them showing the love for animals.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I can say when it comes to any sort of line though.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'll say that him with his insecurities, but also his loneliness, I give him credit for that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I do like that they took the time in that scene with him like the young Michael Jackson and Neil Long for him to explain why he was so attached to animals.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Because, you know, as far as he did like, oh, he just wanted to zoom.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He's like, I don't handle real friends.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm tired of being
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[SPEAKER_06]: and a zoo animal exhibit for these kids.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You did break the day, I liked that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I like that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I go to school or I try to go to school and they just want to take pictures with me and ask him about, like, what is it like being fake?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Y'all don't want to be my friend for real.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So, I'm gonna go get some friends who can't talk back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And who are going to love me back?
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[SPEAKER_06]: So, I mean, and that's unfortunate, like that that's how that worked out for him.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But I was like y'all could have bought that baby some friends.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He wouldn't have been there literally Oh, they're never been there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's fucking play twist it.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Honestly, I'm like, but they lived and I always thought about that I was like, you're never in a nice neighborhood in an affluent area I'm sure there are other celebrity children around So, you got a problem?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, you know, you got a her
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[SPEAKER_03]: with Janet said, and what Mike said, especially in some terms of Jimmy, they were the only black family in that area.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And a lot of times, especially
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[SPEAKER_03]: Once again, a lot of people think that you, of course, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They think, once King died, it's 16, recently.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, we are only three years removed from the assassination that they came.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So there was still racism that they did.
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[SPEAKER_06]: There was tension and thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That they dealt with being
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[SPEAKER_03]: Black people with money coming into Insino and living in the space.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it was just easy to go out there and like, hey, there's other celebrity friends that you could make it be a friend around.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But as I'm saying, I'm like, I feel like you'll have, at this point, you have staffing things.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Even if it wasn't in your neighborhood and like, was there no other celebrity kids who are used to all this kind of fanfare?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, they didn't at one point live with Barry Gordy when it was recording and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's where the haze will come in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So they would play games over there, but other than that, the only people that they played with was like, more time already.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you know, it's like, they playing basketball, and we're like, the temptation of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They all older people.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And when they were host parties, I said, you know, it will be, you know, it's put, you know, his breath is kind of right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it would be that dynamic to the point where they they'll be other celebrity kids that will come over But once again, but he's still he's still the young kid because Mike was saying yeah, this would Mike said I would walk around Look, just look at for friend I walk around the neighborhood It look for so
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was only doing her every seven years by yourself, but all right, it was more dead or late 70 because he was doing this I think as late as 1980 like when he was going on with that damn llama Exactly, they put in their wages walking around the neighborhood walking his life He's like hello, they did look at him like what the fuck like you get a lot more from literally I'm saying yeah, but that's that that's what we're happy and that you were just sitting there
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[SPEAKER_03]: and just try to find friends or somebody who just wanted to be his friend and the only friends he ever had was his brothers and once they grew out and moved out of the house.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And that's why I was such a big backlash.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Because...
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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, well, she's going to be weird.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I get it logically.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I get it, but I'm just like, that really fucking sucks.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It does.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like, y'all already made this child grow up too fast, because you thrust him into the spotlight at a very young age.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And then nobody was ensuring that he had any kind of, like, same age interaction at all.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He just around all these adults doing God knows what.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like, come on, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but remember when I was in the documentary when David Bowie was asking him a radio and like, you know, you were gonna try something that's cool.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, damn, you had a party at my house.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But, you know what I'm saying, but that was a normal back then.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That was something that was something to not like, you know, it did the friends that Mike had a Gary, they stayed in Gary.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Of course.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_06]: You know, you can fly them out and they would
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is that, and I said, this is in the fresh print.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That's why I made what's going back to your hand and out chicken.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like...
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[SPEAKER_03]: According to Fred and Gith.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But that, and also just, you know, the music performances, I suppose though that APP... All the performances were good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They paid extreme amount of detail.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Not some time for the choices, but I'm just saying we came to the Default Parts.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They paid extreme amount of detail.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think I really love how they because I really didn't look I wanted to see more of it But I had a handle so I didn't get enough.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They turned it to a montage, but they also did a jump cut into the video Did you?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'd be like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I was like, but because that's my favorite part of that video because you Then what's it going to show the whole video have been sitting in this behind the grease screen, you know But when the three mics come out I was like, oh, I didn't find every single time and I was like there was dope
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, in my time, I didn't want to shoot 54 stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I, I, I appreciated that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I understand, you know, for, for the creativity, how they did throw her.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so they didn't montage to the 54.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was, it showed like a single number of like once taking, and it showed another second, and it showed another second.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's
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[SPEAKER_02]: and every other clip that you want to show three seconds.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And also the the COVID version of your far scenes I thought were really well done also.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll think about family framing this maybe you should maybe you should because I think they did pay a lot of attention to that when it comes to him wanting to you know fire his day him finding out about it or you like you felt the tension every time Joseph wanted
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[SPEAKER_03]: every single time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And even when they did the recreases of some of the moments I said, it doesn't get enough credit for it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like that Pepsi-C, yeah, I felt that felt all that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Don't expect the wild trip or anything.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I said?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Don't expect it that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But they knew what it looked like back then.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But that actually, that's it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my God, put them out.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that was fucked up.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was like, is all these people really able to understand how bad it had led to us are really bad like you like they said you could he could have died yeah and then the part that you don't think about after that Is you're in so much pain now your heart's racing we got to do something to calm you down and get you out of pain because then you could.
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[SPEAKER_06]: send yourself into a farther problem to have nothing to do with the burns because your body don't know how to react.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That's all right.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It was bad, that's bad, all that damn activator.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Cause I'm like bro, I did ask, I'm like, I, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm sure his head might have still quote on fire, but I'm wondering if it quote on fire, like it did because they had so much like products and shit in their head back then.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Cause they were in like Jerry Curls.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think he was too close to this version as well, so that's that's so that's like the main thing If he maybe if he was if he wasn't if they go off so early Then yeah, he probably wouldn't even even think cool.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and we all we did to take five times.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You want to do another one Or like use another tape I would say Get give me at a different angle, but I was like get that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh Man, I was like it's I don't say that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I was having to put it that was like this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you have to have to
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[SPEAKER_03]: And also you have to because he's for the face of the break, but also we talked about him as a side character who do you know cool Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we skip over Don King because I was like the can be was because that why why we're Don King and What's it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, but it's name and movie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was a walk our mother No, once a year you want to run
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[SPEAKER_06]: I don't remember his last name, I remember his first name as Walter.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, but they did, they did, or he had to know, what did he get to know?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're gonna hold empty feet there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Which I'm glad they showed that scene also.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, we got stuff that we need to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just that we didn't get into it as deep as you wanted to.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I just feel like again, when I saw the first time, I still stand by it.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I don't feel as strongly about it, but I feel like there is, I guess because it was so cut up, and you had to basically put it back together again, that there is something still kind of hollow about it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Um, trying to pack,
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[SPEAKER_06]: 20 years into two and a half hours is no easy feat to pack 20 years into that and then try to build like the character's a character development and you know emotional scenes it's not easy to balance all of that
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[SPEAKER_06]: and I thought you got to be one hell of a filmmaker to do that in the first place, but then you don't have all the creative freedom that you would want anyway.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I don't know what, there was, I still stand by that to some degree, but.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So whatever you saw then at that that you didn't like about the movie?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I feel like it's unfair, technically yes, but I feel like it's unfair to say that because it's like your hands are tired.
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[SPEAKER_06]: what you can do with the situation, with having to reshoot and having to then cut even more out of the movie and then you know start like find a new way to convey your story.
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[SPEAKER_06]: None of that is easy, but I'm like, but it did take a toll, I think, when the movie overall.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, part of Sissy in the four times there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What is something that you did like by the movie?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then I did it like yeah, I didn't like the pacing at some point switch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know a lot of people have said that but yeah, it's like Some points will speed through and some points will sit in it like you like Some points where I wanted to speed through they said in it some points where I wanted to like get more of Understanding the spirit through For somebody you know to be the logo thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought we're gonna get more you know
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[SPEAKER_02]: mention of it or anything that's actually a big part bigger than some other parts that they just focus on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like they need some parts.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I do agree because there are some parts in here that bother me to the point where it is bothered me as much for it being a single move about me because I'm like you would need to try to establish this now going into a potential sequel.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Correct.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like because
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[SPEAKER_06]: no because and that's how it felt at the end of the movie like it was like oh he walking off the stage and he liked Joe it's over and next thing we know he too shades lighter and I'm like wait what what happened exactly we know what happened in real life but what happened is I it I that has to be a central car at a central part
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[SPEAKER_03]: in his development.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We can't just be like, all right, I'm just putting this on to try to bounce that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It got to go deeper than that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: At least a little bit because you got all people going through of what's happening because once again, if people missed it, because I saw it on a second time, he talks about his middle ego on his hand.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And the doctor's has a spree.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he says, no,
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[SPEAKER_03]: maintain it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Basically, with dead, throughout the way, if you see him in the pool, it has spread up his chest or to his hands.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, they put it in there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I give credit for doing that, but if you're looking, you can't see it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then after the Motel 25 performance, and he takes his glove off, it's spreading.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's even looking, looking like it's going to his face.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: But he's just there and he's covering it up with something so make up at that very good company That's the graceful never seen I was like, but the audience my son yeah it's like but to be fair like everybody and once again that they're treating it like you sure we know what sound I put the piece together yourself but everybody don't know that That was the that was the one the things I said after me thought the first time I was like I feel like this
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[SPEAKER_06]: the way it was put back together, it relies a lot on the audience should be drawing these conclusions.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And that's I don't think that's good filmmaking.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It lets you know like super heel film.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'll say it because in that case you can't do whatever you want make it an Annoyance book for all of a fucking care, but this is not this somebody's life.
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[SPEAKER_06]: This is what I like, yes, uh, so tell me not you know, I have to explain something like I'm five, but give me a bit more like we went straight from you on you on stage and then also I explain to me how we doing this because you're sweating under all the lights.
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[SPEAKER_06]: How was none of this starting to peek out at me or anything?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like, I'm sure that had to be something that you had to work out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And you started seeing it like, I always referred to that picture when they was doing, what was that thriller?
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[SPEAKER_06]: When he was in the studio, he took the picture with Quince.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, the band, okay, he had to be because that's when he started getting lighter.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But his face is very obviously a different shade than his hands.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I'm like, give me that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like he, it started spread now.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He's like, well, I guess at some point you can't even out to what your skin tone used to be.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You got to just go with where you're going.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But it may not be spread in as fast when your hands anymore.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So now your hands are still brown and your face is too shazelider.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like tell me that he just, y'all just, um,
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[SPEAKER_02]: had him jumping up and down with all the, uh, daughter, sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let me just say that the Jackson thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Say they put the Jackson manly for victory tour and then the ending of we're done.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then they do something else.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What's still staying that year?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then when we start in a civil or whatever then, that's when you start to go over the skin and then change their color.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, because the way they did it, obviously, it's a good performance for a band.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's like, it just just cuts, he likes getting it and you just end it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it just feels abrupt.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I wanted to stay it and I would just stay it in a bit of a return error We can have those things to fill in that point.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I honestly I think it because honestly it felt like This was outweir if I like ain't trying to fight back for something And it felt like it was like I want to get Something because it was it I think we as fans is 20.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I really think if it had the victory tour
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[SPEAKER_03]: We would have been disappointed.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We'd probably have been more disappointed.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like we didn't have 30 minutes or something.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was like, we could have done something where it was just like, he's walking off after that whole confrontation with Mike Myers about MCB.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Why couldn't it be?
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[SPEAKER_06]: He's walking off and now he's still in the...
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[SPEAKER_06]: creative process for trying to figure out what his next project is going to be in his video comes on MCV, yeah, I just took it, I mean, something like this, and still like a, like a little support and it's like, what's next for Michael Jackson?
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's something and being the video player?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Something, I mean, I don't want to do the same thing, it's how he figured out about the gangs, because we completely skipped a little bit more.
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[SPEAKER_06]: In that vein, like, that we are, like, even if it wasn't, we got thriller then, maybe we got thriller as a premiere elsewhere.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Cause he's like, oh, so let's about to come out, you're gonna love it.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We could have premiered thriller.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: something.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And we could have ended it there and when he turned around and he's he's defar again and we go we fade out and then we get the historic continues thing and we could have did a flashback of when we got to the sequel of okay so here's how we got to now we're doing bad kind of thing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know it's just
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[SPEAKER_06]: It was, you can't tell people how to do a job when you don't do a job.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not a filmmaker.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I just know as a consumer though, I didn't like the, like, here's the influence of this, this, and this, like, put the pieces together.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Even as a person who likes doing that, I wasn't a fan.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not a fan of that in biopics.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you're all going to make great points.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that is a done fortune thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then when we sell this one, which scares me about a sequel about how you can possibly do it or not.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Because how do you follow up with that?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: The whole you, you're basically setting this up to be like, we've been to get dangerous and then depression.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Everything has to be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: As I'm today, it's a, it's an ounce.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They said they're going to do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They said it's green, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and said it's based on for Antoine Fuqua schedule.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Man, we don't get what schedule.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That said, he has a busy schedule, so it's up to him.
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[SPEAKER_06]: What else is he doing?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not being funny.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like what else is he doing?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's doing equalizers.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I thought they canceled that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Awesome movie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, movie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the movie.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, what the hell else is Denzel?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Equalizing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought he retired.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I really thought that we would double equalizers.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Thor, he said he was done after all, that's what they're like, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought he said, I'm not he said, I'm not he said, I'm not he said, I'm we're doing nothing equalized.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to do another something else.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to do black cancer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I'm going to be done.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, how is the lowest cannot be his last movie?
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what that's.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I could probably do what they said.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's something he's scheduled.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So they're going to either film it later this year or early.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tony said.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I won't be honest with you.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I just know a bit and I'd be like no damn expendable.
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[SPEAKER_06]: The last six.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I won't be honest with you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That right there is escape go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because it's because see here's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I could A right by the asking me, I think the sequel seems to be, I was just talking myself about this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to listen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The way the theater works in primary and you know this already.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think the budget was 150 million dollars, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, before or after the cuts, I'm not sure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so let's just throw around the bell because I, I used to know because Tony Baker said it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's use the bell, then the, the full budget is $200 million dollars.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, they just made $217 million globally worldwide.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, naturally, people are going to think well, they made their money back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's not how it works.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because I don't know what it is.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I will hope that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: If don't you have five apples, y'all don't think that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They like what they do think that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They like what they do think that, um, it's, the problem is, you got to pay for all this advertising.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And all this merchandise that comes with the course with the movie, you have to pay for that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Then the theater guy get their cut.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So within that, you have to at least make about $400 million to break even.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Then after that, you got to see how much this thing I've got to listen, how much maybe we can build for a profit after that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now we're saying this as we're going into the summer movie season.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So let's assume that Michael stays in Bioshoff's for over a month.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You still got the worst price coming up this week.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He got Mortal Kombat as coming down.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then we got worse, we're going into
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[SPEAKER_03]: new movies are going to come out every week how much legs this is how how much Michael made his head because a lot people seen it three, four, five times in one weekend how many times because it's going to go further down that a question is they know that Lions gave that I don't know who I'm a sensitive point also but if Lions gave them officially come out and say we're doing a project the CEO
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, that look, he can say this, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Here's the thing, the same is all the personal and try to focus on saying, if we don't make enough money, I can throw it on him because it ain't happening.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, I mean, this is true.
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[SPEAKER_06]: They could be using him as a skateboard, a scapegoat, but I was as you think in more of a, well, we need time to kind of scream when I figure out how we want to do this sequel.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So, let's see, throw it on a scapegoat.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I can't schedule.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I believe they said,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I forgot the whole interview, but he said, like, 30% of what they can't use, they go, they don't use 30% of what they could do, what they couldn't use on that one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he said, they can't mention the allegations, so that's going to be scrapped.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But we took a visit, we see here's the thing, that they're supposed to say, how successful can a sequel be?
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you don't talk about the hearts, if you don't talk about, because once again, the
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, it's fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm saying, I feel like the movie is going to be sad, regardless, movies will be sad, regardless.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, but no, okay, it's a point I'm making.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, the night, the night is reformed, Michael Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, not, not only did you have the Super Bowl, but you have the Oprah interview.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You have
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[SPEAKER_03]: dangerous.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You have history.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You have the joint challenge allegations.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You have Lisa Marie.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You have kids.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot of things.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Debbie Roe.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You have a lot of things going for you in the 90s.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And here's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you make a second movie, then we're in the 90s.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, you don't even address any more allegations about that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's going to be, that's going to create more backlash than this one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you can't just sit there and say, well, we can't use it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They can't use it now and get the bad word about it still going around.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm talking to random people at my job or even at my door school who still got this misinterpretation of what the reason why they're talking about these allegations in this movie because of the crap that they're reading from unreliable sources.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We mentioned here on this channel doing the research and talking about it, but the effect of the matter is, they don't.
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[SPEAKER_06]: They don't.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They don't really.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They don't operate.
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[SPEAKER_06]: People don't listen.
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[SPEAKER_06]: If social media has told me nothing else, folks are not doing no deep digging.
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[SPEAKER_06]: If you got to do any read and pass a headline, honestly, if you can't read a headline.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You're not.
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[SPEAKER_06]: They're not doing it.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's much easier to go with the sensationalized version of anything.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Not just this.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Then to actually, it's details.
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[SPEAKER_06]: In fact, are not sexy to people.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not.
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[SPEAKER_06]: They don't care about that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You can go ahead and debunk stuff all day.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But you could be talking to a wall because they in an echo chamber telling them the opposite of what you're saying to them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, if you don't, they have to find a way to address this, you may have to even change out all names of participants and even change out the scenario.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And here's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, you have to create a blooper to this one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody said, so if you do that, it's like, now you're worried about pissing off the fanbase because now you've got to make up something to explain something.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And now, it's like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: What game would do you take because it's going to be a game where if you're going to invest this amount of money into it, you got to get what it gets you money back.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, because they're not going to want to wait until we get to like the trial for them to be like, oh, well, here's, you know, the, a case, the case that we all witnessed when we know we got to this, I don't see we got to this case because of everything that was
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[SPEAKER_03]: so it that that's the that's the hard thing to do and I don't think people truly understand it and I yes I want to sequel but it got to be done right it's the sequel and and you have to you got to you can't make everybody happy but you got to at least
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[SPEAKER_03]: attempt to do something.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you do another C, if you do a sequel in the 90s and don't talk about no allegations at all It's not gonna end up good for Mike and the fans are gonna go always go see it But it's not going to it's not going to celebrate with critics.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not going to sit right with some to general public And people's gonna be like and also they are fans have like they want this in there to show his innocence
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's like you you really got a tough job to do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You really got a tough job to do and the Lord's got to go with a far or two calm to see what they can do and what they can't do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What you got to address something and that's why I was saying so then went with them with the CEOs looking at it like hold on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You could green that a sequel right now with six
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[SPEAKER_03]: given us a given them the director's cut.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Possibly.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then just make the money off of that and be like, like, just give them the scenes in a director's cut and be like, all right, and this is it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then this was what you guys do, because you got to make the fans have me somehow.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm just like, it can be like a zig-slide thing in a way, like, hit this is you're all justlessly y'all can y'all can take it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's fine because there's nothing, it's listen, there's no more after this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And anyway, I was just like, you know, Leonard Finch is not like, no, we gave you all that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What a brother's gave you all that, this is it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And no more after this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I can really see this, I don't want to count you for the hatch, but they got, you can pre-order the blue ray right now on Amazon.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Without even being a release date, or even know what's on that blue ray.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And for some reason, the way, you know, I'm not the smartest of business, but that's him a little odd to me.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I listen, the way that's moving, I see why Janet and Randy and him is just like, bro, I ain't messing with you all, y'all doing whatever y'all can to milk money out of this system.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, literally, literally.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I wish that we do more than money out of them, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, but as a fact, the frustration, but I can really see.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Don't say and listen, here is a three hour director's cut of Michael, it will release on digital, will release it on blue ray, and this is going to be, and whatever comes down the future, maybe it prints Michael, gets to estate in the future, and Janet, and they will do something else, maybe.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But call spike.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I can legit see them saying here here's a director's cut of all the season show missed because what is going to be profitable of what we can use or we can't use.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This made us be the way to go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying it's not going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying you got to think you got to really really out there a little bit in business.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to say now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got at least four performances now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to see, I know they got a least four.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I would say, but you can make, or you can make like this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Some of the things you can do with the function they had, I'd say, we see it work for Zack Snyder.
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[SPEAKER_03]: To the point where I say, I read the pay on my money for you to fill my these things and have a director's cut come out, or come out on blue right and make our money back from that, opposed to going through promotion and marketing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and theater cuts and making a whole other movie with more major dollars of resources that may not sell and may not get over well with anybody that's just like the business but now the last thing I want to get into because you know we did talk about the sequel thing I like that uh... the unfortunate comparisons now people go to prepare this movie to the American dream
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's unfortunate.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh no, we got to, we got to the back up just a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Since we talked about the estate, we really get into fully things that we don't like.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I just had one thing I got to say.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You got to hurry and not going over any of that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Shut up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Again, I don't know these people personally, so I don't know they personal feelings.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But if the way job-breaker and certain self-indist movie is in the indication of the way that this estate is being run I see why you are just like, bro fuck what y'all doing over here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I get things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I was going to mention that too But then when he moved on, I was just like, I'm just gonna get it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's actually part of them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's definitely something that someone would say this man
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because not her husband's been around for that much, and even if he was, why do we need to see him in every frame?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he got my house to tell the plan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What does my brother?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You mean to tell me every time people are done with Bill Burr, you stand right there?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Every time?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, I bet she glad she wasn't a bit scared to get it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's a problem.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Because again, you mean to tell me that it makes perfect sense to y'all not to introduce his fucking brothers.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But she went and got
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[SPEAKER_06]: A top tier actor to play this man and be in several scenes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Several.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But I don't know who Jack is.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like what, what are we doing?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Seriously, yeah, you're right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Also in real life, that's not even his manager.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the thing though.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't think that's his manager.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not even the manager.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's just the lawyer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's the lawyer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Aggie goes fine.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The head is major in the movie.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It ain't saying his name.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, uh, the, the, the boy I got in the beginning, who's talking to, that's his manager.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, but everything, I'm seeing like, you were rather, like, put a, put a, put a, put a, the village in situation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When you beat up with your manager, not your lawyer.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I can see you being there with your lawyer and your manager.
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[SPEAKER_06]: because there could be legal ramifications to this, but you'll took the time to give us multiple scenes we'll have and didn't introduce actual people who had an impact, who he set out his own mouth had an impact on his career.
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[SPEAKER_06]: This is why, like, in the beginning with the Shalamarzo, it's called a Shalboat, the Bloods and the Crimson, and so how he wanted to do unity.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But this man has told us multiple times, don't give me the credit.
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[SPEAKER_06]: for learning somebody's moves.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was inspired by Jackie Wilson and James Brown and then I was taught the newer stuff by Jeffrey Daniels.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Then you have y'all making a point to dress everybody up like their characters in the beat it video so we know that this was happening and you don't acknowledge that the person who's in the white next to him is the actual fucking choreographer.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like that that's who that is in the beat it video.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He's a choreographer So you're don't acknowledge him.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You don't give him a name and I know everybody don't know who all the rage But she does have a name.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Why the fuck was she this?
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's the real-a-girlfriend in the in the In the charter Yeah, yeah, if you look at the credits.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is that if you say bill a girlfriend and this is daughter?
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[SPEAKER_06]: you couldn't even take the time to assign this lady's actual name to the character you gave your daughter or the fact that when he was in a studio with Quincy Jones if I'm not mistaken, the person sitting next to him is Bruce Sweden, an actual person but somehow I know who John Brink is
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like, kind of fuck on.
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[SPEAKER_06]: There was, there was stuff in this movie that was just like, you're a fingerprinter all over this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I don't know if y'all been seeing this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of people are like looking back and stuff over the time of my, like, so apparently, you know, might fight him and all that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Apparently, like, they kind of, they kind of, you know, they've been doing conspiracy theories.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, oh, how come all of a sudden,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, he's put in charge of MJ's estate about seven days before he dies and now he's always other be as going on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He sounds kind of all of the sudden and he does all this extra stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then I was like, what's the point of pill even being there for six?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I have to ask this question, why did the estate not go to family at all?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I can't listen.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Maybe he was not sure what they would do at that point in his life.
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[SPEAKER_06]: What they would do with his estate, but they would have met in an executor anyway.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I can't fuss and be like, you left
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[SPEAKER_06]: You know y'all you left it your dad cuz he ain't know what he was doing for real like Business in the hat no business acumen and then say well why would you why would you have this lawyer of that you?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I guess at some point trusted Around to do the estate work now.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He could have got somebody else.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I will say that Yeah, I'm gonna be my Some family some Lord like something in the middle of your life.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He almost 100% of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's why it's like so
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can only go by stuff that I've read for Mike in the later years, she was rough.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm not talking about her.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm talking about with the family.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And...
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[SPEAKER_06]: Does he have an appointment?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: When it came to...
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[SPEAKER_03]: There were...
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[SPEAKER_03]: He used the term Vultures.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so...
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[SPEAKER_03]: Especially with Joseph.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I do know that there were You made a man who was out here selling like a long.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, God.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, why before he died Dead there were things that I'd fucking sell to he didn't want them to Can control other money because it basically they're gonna blow it on On themselves so he was very strict about that now boss again, you know My position situation, you know, he could trust because once again if you have if you have rated bigger than his gate as if for his money
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's like, you know, who could you control all this microtexive money and all this other thing you've got to be on?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Katherine?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I think she's older and she's she's an older woman who as far as if they made it seem like never really had a job or anything.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So what does she go into?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, she can oversee and make decisions.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But again, she would need a lawyer and somebody to help her execute all of that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Then it was married off and not here, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, he's about like, like, like, oh, six or seven.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like, when he was...
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was... Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, she was... Well, Jameen the free when he died.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It took, it took 2009, right?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, okay.
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[SPEAKER_06]: No, she got she got married and had her kid after that, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So, but she all live her home life.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was worried about James.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But that's what I'm saying.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like, he's not going to give us a heart to manage.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So, I'm like, I could see being like, especially one, we got to remember who knows where his mind might have been when he thought that his time was getting closer.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's not like this man expected to die.
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[SPEAKER_06]: at 50, you know, I know body is like, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's been a good ride, like nobody, he might not have been in that state of mind later down the road.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, like, you know what, maybe I should leave it and even ain't gonna troll my mom in the kids, but I'm wondering likely he's not probably thinking he's gonna outlive his mother.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So why would he leave his estate on him?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's a good point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You put her in this way of him to take care of his kids.
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[SPEAKER_06]: What happened?
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[SPEAKER_02]: He did put her in his wallet to take care of his kids if he died.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, my mother is the person who, if something happens to me suddenly, I need you to take care of my, uh, I need you to take care of my kids.
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[SPEAKER_06]: If something happens to the both of us, the kids going to my mom.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But that's like in case of an emergency, that's a living will kind of a thing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to die tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I have no time to line up my estate.
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[SPEAKER_06]: His everything was a mess at that time.
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[SPEAKER_06]: According to that movie that they made when he was doing it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to say also, I wish they would have talked about more of how he had bought up a lot of stuff and people weren't really liking him behind the scene.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Could be a sign of a lot kind of.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's getting more eyes on him, negative eyes on him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because he was paranoid.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, he was, but you know, but you know, who don't buy into conspiracies and paranoid delusions?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Not black people.
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[SPEAKER_06]: No.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I'm not saying it as like a just a general blanket statement.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We'd be thinking like, it's some wild, you gotta watch it back, you don't know who, but everybody who, people who don't grow up in a survival mindset are not thinking like that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Let's put it that way.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's a good way to put it.
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[SPEAKER_06]: If you're not growing up thinking that you got to make sure you guard everything you got because you could lose it at any moment because you are a black man, that's not, non black people, I'm moving through like like, non minorities, not moving through like like,
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[SPEAKER_06]: So no, it's not at the top of the brain of the person who inserted themselves into this movie To be like, oh, maybe I should tell the people that Mike bought this catalog and that catalog and purchased this And he was he was concerned for his safety or that people might be trying to plot.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He's not one.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That's not going.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That's not making any movie
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, man, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like on beat beat and it all.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's not food, I mean, but it sounds like the estate is the one who has the approval of it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and that and day yeah, job breakers definitely took, I knew there were rare flags when the teaser came out and he was in the teaser.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was in the teaser.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then he might have seen reactors say, he was all over that teaser too.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, why did you show him in his teaser?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, but you know, and I'm like, yeah, they used to do E.S.
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[SPEAKER_03]: scenes with them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of things, but we can't mention this to brothers, like, my God.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you know what, it makes me think, because now that's what people see the movie, and I can't help but think.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is my podcast, we can talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What was it that pissed Jan and Paris off right and had to be something?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I I got the sense that they just don't like the estate in general.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like the way it's being run in general So they don't want to be a part of it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you think they will parents say like it's the inequities do you think that job right could be wonderful?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, put the, if Johnny had five apples and you put the pieces together, I don't, this made it all over the movie he runs the estate, I don't fuck with the estate.
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[SPEAKER_06]: These two things, one of these things is like the other.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So if I don't fuck with you and you all over this movie, you're inserting yourself in spaces where you probably didn't need to be where other things could have been.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Because beyond when he met him, and he was just like, I need you to fire my father.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And how would you like me to do that?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Quickly.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That had been a cool little cameo you in here, who was to say, he comes and gets a villain in the hospital and it's not from Channing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if that's what really happened, but.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And just hypothetically, like who is that to say that we don't see him for the rest of the movie and now we got Randy on stage at the victory tour in the it's something like there's there are places where it's like you
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[SPEAKER_06]: The person who is giving them the coaching as an artist would have been Suzanne Depass.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You could have been making the plans with your manager about your creative direction.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, with your lawyer about your creative direction and what you want to do and how you want to be mysterious and blah blah blah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But the person you what more than likely be talking about that with is your manager.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you're right.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm coming to you to be like, so what are the legal ratifications and all these things I need to do?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not sitting here talking about my hopes and dreams, would you?
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[SPEAKER_06]: if you he already said I don't need a family I got a family I need you to represent me yeah cool so read over these contracts draft up and letter fire my daddy and I'm going to talk to my manager and my trusted confidence about what I want to do creatively in the next few years so I know their whole series badass I ain't gonna hold you on that one
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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, when he was in the lawyer's office.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Here we are, that was like, oh, this business right right here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let it look.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I ain't going to go fup of me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I know we talked some serious, but I was like, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: No, you're so mad right, you're not wrong.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And Antoine Fuqua, really like shooting behind the sunglasses.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That was a shot he was enjoying.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And then he was like, why was he zooming in on the eye from the behind the sunglasses so much?
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[SPEAKER_03]: He liked that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So that was a random aside, but I wouldn't be surprised.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not gonna assume we never know.
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[SPEAKER_06]: They could have had their own personal interactions and they'd been like fuckable, okay?
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[SPEAKER_06]: The long way, but who knows?
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[SPEAKER_06]: We won't know unless one of them decides to talk any time going to.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I don't say they don't have to.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's why I'm hesitant on the sequel because once again, if the sequel does not meet with the state's bottom line,
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[SPEAKER_03]: who's the charge of it and it's not going to do that they don't see a profit from it they're not going to do it and if Janet and Paris and all of them and Randy want to get control back of the estate
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I guess they can, you know, treat them by the way we speak because right now, if the argument is true even though they came out and said that it was it, but I can believe Janet, you may have some words.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I could too.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And if, if, if, if, would you may say like, just ride this train, it just shows.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's, again, that I just, I, I want, I want ride that, I want this ride this.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Let me tell you who I'm not leaving my say to somebody who made a diss track about me.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not leaving my state to you, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You never did a lie, Nick.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I put that one there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You never did a lie, sir.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're not.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm just, it, because it's like, it does feel like very, it can, I can see how it would have felt exploitative to be like, all right, well, I don't really want to leave all this power to you, because who knows what she's going to do with it?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not saying that we will be having a pet Houston situation where she's slapping Whitney Houston's
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[SPEAKER_06]: name and likeness on anything she can get her hands on, but I don't know if they would have managed it the way that he likes, and they would have needed assistance.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Uh-huh.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So listen, I get it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just, I do think that there was a lot of John Brinkham.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm all bad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll skip that before I do go into the unfortunate comparisons.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Was it anything else that that there was a light order?
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[SPEAKER_03]: We got different from drama.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I guess I could miss a lot.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I could have missed a lot.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I just want to go hit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I think we got money.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So people are naturally going to do unfortunate comparisons.
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[SPEAKER_03]: to this in the American Dream.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not fair because this is a movie.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Mercury Dream was a mini-series, which means they have more times of first things out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Also, American Dream was about the Jackson family.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is about Michael Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, there's, there's that as well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, but unfortunately, there are comparisons that people want to make.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And one of the biggest ones I see was Joe Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Long so Jake was Joe Jackson, against COVID-19.
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[SPEAKER_06]: They gave it man a lot of credit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It covered the Minkles Joe Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I've seen a lot of people say, you know, like, well, this wasn't a movie.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I wanted to see the part where you know that the town, the Superpool, it's like, you're not going to get the same.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But here's the thing that I feel like that's what it was, though.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like people just want to see a better, right?
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[SPEAKER_06]: No, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_06]: key moments that clearly were either direct rips or a slightly tweaked variation of what happened in the many series.
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[SPEAKER_06]: The performance, where they didn't ever can say goodbye, the him floating in the pool trying to come up with ideas and talking about how he wants to assert his independence and how where he's going to go.
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[SPEAKER_06]: the scene where instead of him coming upstairs yelling, who on top of a pole, he's pissed because he got a letter and he need to go in there and talk to Katherine and she's supposed to be set in her street.
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[SPEAKER_06]: All the shit is the, it is the bones of the many series.
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[SPEAKER_06]: her having these conversations with Michael trying to reassure him about how he is he's great and she knew he was special and all of these things are very dirt like there's no way you can make it believe that oh no we didn't get any inspiration from Jackson the American.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh I'm not saying that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But there are the scene where he's walking him to the press conference and he's just like, now how old are you?
01:00:05.801 --> 01:00:06.461
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh I'm 10.
01:00:06.722 --> 01:00:08.263
[SPEAKER_06]: Well it's much tutor when you're
01:00:10.184 --> 01:00:14.630
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, there is clear connections between.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I'm like, it's unfair, yes, you did, you set them up to be compared to the cast and the mood, like the actual plot of a Jackson's American Dream.
01:00:26.446 --> 01:00:36.839
[SPEAKER_06]: Because if you fleshed out more time to flesh it out or not, if you asked me which scene I'm taking when cast some scenes up to Joe, I'm gonna take go to bed, Joseph, every time and twice on Sunday.
01:00:36.859 --> 01:00:37.841
[SPEAKER_03]: I agree with you.
01:00:38.261 --> 01:00:38.942
[SPEAKER_03]: I agree with you.
01:00:40.323 --> 01:00:45.650
[SPEAKER_03]: So then the me excellent kind of a question called the mingle or Lawrence of Jiggles.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Fine, I feel like they both brought different things to the table.
01:00:53.500 --> 01:01:06.036
[SPEAKER_02]: I personally like the way coming to me to disappear into the room, more than what I say with Jiggles, what I say with Jiggles, more terrifying as I'm no not a sense and I'm doing I'm doing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So they are I can't compare those two.
01:01:09.196 --> 01:01:29.297
[SPEAKER_06]: Other stuff is easy to compare, but no, that's like the hardest comparison is this, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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[SPEAKER_06]: he can sing cool at one moment and in one of the time he'll turn, you don't know if he's about to waddle fuck out.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Coleman Domingo in this movie, I imagine him being a super villain, the entire time that they were from the time, from the still mill, all the way up until Mike was going.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I'm like, I do think that he,
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[SPEAKER_06]: He played the role that was given to him very well and I do think he disappeared instead of the role.
01:02:01.264 --> 01:02:03.988
[SPEAKER_06]: But like you said, they had more time to build the character.
01:02:04.028 --> 01:02:18.488
[SPEAKER_06]: So Lawrence Hill and Jacob has the, I guess unfair advantage of having time to like give us, give us a room to like grow with you.
01:02:19.249 --> 01:02:21.512
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, you, you also forgot another portrayal.
01:02:22.454 --> 01:02:24.276
[SPEAKER_06]: How, why are you eight though, Richard Lawson?
01:02:27.378 --> 01:02:32.524
[SPEAKER_02]: Randy, I'm gonna need you to go get it, I'm gonna need you to leave.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You come back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Come on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm joking, but... Oh, the reason why you got this goddamn job.
01:02:42.135 --> 01:02:43.036
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's do walk away from me?
01:02:43.536 --> 01:02:44.698
[SPEAKER_06]: The bird.
01:02:44.718 --> 01:02:46.139
[SPEAKER_06]: It pulled up at his PC cruiser.
01:02:46.600 --> 01:02:49.023
[SPEAKER_06]: But...
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[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like between the two of them,
01:02:55.323 --> 01:03:03.078
[SPEAKER_06]: choice is easily because I do think they both did well in the role, just in two different ways.
01:03:03.098 --> 01:03:17.365
[SPEAKER_03]: I do think that, um, when I look at it, I grew to as hard as hard to make a choice with them, but the thing is, I think they was like, we got to,
01:03:17.969 --> 01:03:23.360
[SPEAKER_03]: complete the Villanarco joke, Jackson, because he's a more so good, he's a kid's the Villanarco, right?
01:03:23.601 --> 01:03:30.696
[SPEAKER_03]: More so jacos, you see, was, you know, a guy who was for a taste of a kid, like he had his his moments.
01:03:30.929 --> 01:03:35.634
[SPEAKER_03]: then you could tell with the stress came from and that he was very terrified in the early years.
01:03:36.014 --> 01:03:39.017
[SPEAKER_03]: But he became after Golden Big Joseph.
01:03:39.398 --> 01:03:45.123
[SPEAKER_03]: It made my- if you actually peep in that movie after the Golden Big Joseph, she kind of like suck his soul.
01:03:45.704 --> 01:03:49.908
[SPEAKER_03]: Because anything after that, he was very- He got soft.
01:03:49.928 --> 01:03:50.509
[SPEAKER_03]: Soft with it.
01:03:50.889 --> 01:03:55.654
[SPEAKER_03]: Even at the end, when he was just like, you know, as you told his return, so I never thought to see.
01:03:55.634 --> 01:03:56.577
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, what's the gift?
01:03:56.979 --> 01:03:59.227
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, uh, but I was the one who pissed me off.
01:03:59.247 --> 01:04:04.125
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't have to talk to my mates at Dallas like he was really begging you know, saying
01:04:05.877 --> 01:04:06.458
[SPEAKER_03]: little dollar.
01:04:06.778 --> 01:04:13.827
[SPEAKER_03]: This thing, uh, COVID-19 ago, he was just, he was just like, my money back in the sea.
01:04:14.527 --> 01:04:14.868
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
01:04:15.409 --> 01:04:16.910
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, the Lord.
01:04:16.930 --> 01:04:18.072
[SPEAKER_03]: I was God, Lee.
01:04:18.492 --> 01:04:22.517
[SPEAKER_03]: And he was like, yo, and I told you what to think.
01:04:23.038 --> 01:04:23.538
[SPEAKER_06]: Exactly.
01:04:23.659 --> 01:04:26.462
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, it's like, that was the most, 20, huh?
01:04:28.164 --> 01:04:30.267
[SPEAKER_02]: That part was just going to, because I don't know if you heard about the clip.
01:04:30.307 --> 01:04:33.150
[SPEAKER_02]: So Michael, when he's talking about Joseph, he's like, on the home with the weather.
01:04:34.548 --> 01:04:36.570
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think you're in your country right at the end of that.
01:04:37.311 --> 01:04:39.634
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, every time Justin wants some money, that's what he says.
01:04:39.894 --> 01:04:40.875
[SPEAKER_02]: That's my son.
01:04:40.995 --> 01:04:42.076
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, what are you doing?
01:04:42.096 --> 01:04:43.338
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's my son.
01:04:43.538 --> 01:04:44.619
[SPEAKER_03]: You're having a good trip.
01:04:45.180 --> 01:04:45.320
[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
01:04:45.340 --> 01:04:47.722
[SPEAKER_03]: So, these are the jet audio clips.
01:04:48.163 --> 01:04:49.464
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't got anything you might have to say.
01:04:49.524 --> 01:04:49.825
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
01:04:49.845 --> 01:04:55.170
[SPEAKER_03]: These are some of the, I hate when they go to this personal shit, but there's the audio clips going right.
01:04:55.190 --> 01:04:56.872
[SPEAKER_03]: He's talking, I don't know who I'm talking to.
01:04:57.513 --> 01:05:00.336
[SPEAKER_03]: He said, you know, I just got a call from Joseph.
01:05:00.603 --> 01:05:07.229
[SPEAKER_03]: And then, he was just like, every time you're kind of fucking like, that's my son like, what do you want, Joseph?
01:05:07.249 --> 01:05:08.150
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't even want to stop it.
01:05:08.490 --> 01:05:10.072
[SPEAKER_03]: He asked me for half a million dollars.
01:05:10.272 --> 01:05:12.214
[SPEAKER_06]: Half a million dollars.
01:05:12.234 --> 01:05:14.416
[SPEAKER_03]: And then, I was just like, why did you tell me that?
01:05:14.436 --> 01:05:16.778
[SPEAKER_03]: He told me I said, well, you're my son, you know?
01:05:16.958 --> 01:05:21.042
[SPEAKER_03]: It's funny because you're here by doing like, doing the Michael doing the Joseph work.
01:05:21.483 --> 01:05:25.386
[SPEAKER_03]: It's, if I've said, dude, if I damn it, it's like no chance of yours it's more something.
01:05:25.406 --> 01:05:26.507
[SPEAKER_03]: I was just like, you know what I mean?
01:05:26.528 --> 01:05:28.129
[SPEAKER_03]: He said, he can eat my shorts.
01:05:29.510 --> 01:05:57.728
[SPEAKER_03]: A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O
01:05:58.467 --> 01:06:02.377
[SPEAKER_03]: Can't we look at this like so we're gonna perform we back on stage.
01:06:02.637 --> 01:06:07.750
[SPEAKER_06]: I need to know when I can start writing checks again Like you see you know, I get the main.
01:06:07.770 --> 01:06:11.599
[SPEAKER_03]: I go be like Well, my son need let's get back on my stage
01:06:12.018 --> 01:06:16.885
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, we didn't see Lars, I'm not saying that makes it better, I'm saying.
01:06:16.905 --> 01:06:17.125
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:06:17.145 --> 01:06:22.632
[SPEAKER_03]: Because Lars said he got softer, and he was like, Producty, and then they were doing the victory tour.
01:06:23.193 --> 01:06:27.339
[SPEAKER_03]: Coach, it's in the back with Don K. Just like listen.
01:06:27.359 --> 01:06:28.380
[SPEAKER_03]: Money, money.
01:06:28.740 --> 01:06:29.301
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:06:29.321 --> 01:06:31.364
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:06:31.384 --> 01:06:32.445
[SPEAKER_03]: The fight to see her.
01:06:32.485 --> 01:06:34.108
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm saying, but do you got Michael?
01:06:34.468 --> 01:06:35.950
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Michael.
01:06:36.807 --> 01:06:39.191
[SPEAKER_03]: And he called me and said, like, look, you're gonna talk to brothers.
01:06:39.972 --> 01:06:41.575
[SPEAKER_03]: And it walks off like that, isn't it?
01:06:41.815 --> 01:06:43.678
[SPEAKER_03]: That, that's why he was doing some of it.
01:06:43.718 --> 01:06:53.714
[SPEAKER_06]: But he's the thing, that feels more like what might have happened, because I feel like how else would you get Michael to do this, unless you were strong arm in him and doing this shit.
01:06:53.854 --> 01:06:56.519
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, I've got the most selling this album.
01:06:57.140 --> 01:07:03.490
[SPEAKER_06]: And when people had to still go to the record store, and buy an album, I
01:07:03.470 --> 01:07:07.355
[SPEAKER_06]: So 40 million of them thanks.
01:07:07.375 --> 01:07:22.994
[SPEAKER_02]: So what you're not already the god fuck you You had he had to be strong on him and to do it Should have been the same we're The same were we're Joe's talking to Kate Kathy.
01:07:23.014 --> 01:07:23.975
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean tapping.
01:07:24.455 --> 01:07:25.056
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's like
01:07:25.762 --> 01:07:28.225
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't, I need, they don't take everything from us.
01:07:28.706 --> 01:07:32.290
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, come visit her and realize she's the one that convinced him to do the tours.
01:07:32.310 --> 01:07:41.861
[SPEAKER_02]: So I thought, when he's telling her that she's going to just bite the bullet and just convince Michael to do the tour, ultimately do the tour, but then we didn't get that scene.
01:07:43.163 --> 01:07:47.848
[SPEAKER_06]: And so I was going through and you know, all everything's been coming back up.
01:07:48.469 --> 01:07:50.031
[SPEAKER_06]: They had talking to, um,
01:07:50.787 --> 01:07:55.149
[SPEAKER_06]: Dremaine's ex, the one who didn't get her credit for doing Jackson the American dream.
01:07:55.189 --> 01:07:58.485
[SPEAKER_06]: And she was saying that
01:07:58.988 --> 01:08:28.455
[SPEAKER_06]: I think that some, you include it was like, well, maybe this is more closer to how cats and really is in real life, maybe she was more soft-spoken and submissive, and according to her, when they screened the movie, she was into it with that scene with you and Laya and you're a cheat, and I don't want you, I don't want you, I don't want she was into that scene, because she cuts his ass to fuck out, what she found out he
01:08:28.823 --> 01:08:41.718
[SPEAKER_06]: And Nate was going and writing up Grease up faces go beat the lady ass I'm more convinced that we Angela Bassett was giving us a bit more real Katherine.
01:08:41.899 --> 01:08:58.138
[SPEAKER_03]: I agree, but she was hoping a Newton Joe Jackson cuz I'm telling this right now I'm gonna tell you how to tell this right now Like I said she took it so after she said go to bed He's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he
01:08:58.456 --> 01:08:59.878
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, call with the big one of the head.
01:08:59.998 --> 01:09:00.759
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll tell you right now.
01:09:01.079 --> 01:09:02.781
[SPEAKER_03]: His character, please forgive me.
01:09:02.861 --> 01:09:03.902
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying what I'm trying to say here.
01:09:05.644 --> 01:09:07.566
[SPEAKER_03]: The way it's about to attack Joe Jackson.
01:09:08.487 --> 01:09:09.409
[SPEAKER_03]: Call the real fight back.
01:09:09.909 --> 01:09:11.951
[SPEAKER_06]: He probably would.
01:09:12.032 --> 01:09:15.495
[SPEAKER_03]: They have said, yeah, like, like, that's what I'm getting from people.
01:09:15.515 --> 01:09:18.419
[SPEAKER_03]: I said the point, like, whoa, oh, I'm wrong.
01:09:18.439 --> 01:09:21.342
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm the devil, but you can put your hands on me, like, like, like, that's the, oh, God.
01:09:21.362 --> 01:09:25.627
[SPEAKER_03]: That's, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's why I was getting from him, right?
01:09:25.887 --> 01:09:26.488
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's just like,
01:09:27.025 --> 01:09:53.488
[SPEAKER_03]: if you take the beginning part of loroso jake mo show Jackson and then take life they didn't take the coming to make mo show Jackson then you have you have the real probably the closest thing you don't get to the real so next i don't know what this is going but you know angler bass in here why we this is not this is unmatched it's unmatched night unmatched
01:09:54.548 --> 01:10:00.560
[SPEAKER_03]: It's different from her and a more guilty side.
01:10:00.580 --> 01:10:02.003
[SPEAKER_06]: We tried to bring like the gentler.
01:10:02.544 --> 01:10:04.007
[SPEAKER_03]: She was the softest side of the series.
01:10:04.027 --> 01:10:06.953
[SPEAKER_03]: When Angela Bassett bought, I mean this to the reporters.
01:10:07.053 --> 01:10:10.139
[SPEAKER_03]: And like you further build up like I'm tired of your shit.
01:10:11.201 --> 01:10:12.805
[SPEAKER_03]: But she was tired of your shit in part one.
01:10:12.885 --> 01:10:13.366
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
01:10:13.827 --> 01:10:15.610
[SPEAKER_06]: She was over it back in Gary.
01:10:15.831 --> 01:10:16.472
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
01:10:17.498 --> 01:10:42.257
[SPEAKER_06]: And then she told him by the self much sooner, they said me having all of them kids was got what got us out here, if you want to be You'd be fair and you long said the same thing she said you ought to be thinking of that was that was that was down the line That was it to go to dread jokes of point Okay, yeah when they got to California she said oh, this is all nice thing I palm trees and shit, but baby Um, me and this coach that was working over time was what was got us here.
01:10:43.038 --> 01:10:44.721
[SPEAKER_06]: Don't get a twisted right
01:10:45.916 --> 01:10:58.727
[SPEAKER_06]: So, I'm like, okay, but still, I think that there was, she had an impossible task to,
01:10:59.433 --> 01:11:02.076
[SPEAKER_06]: outdo the performance that Angela Bassett did.
01:11:02.696 --> 01:11:05.159
[SPEAKER_06]: There's so many quotables from that movie from her.
01:11:05.940 --> 01:11:07.762
[SPEAKER_06]: And moments from that movie from her.
01:11:08.643 --> 01:11:17.753
[SPEAKER_06]: And just the way she portrayed her all the way from when they met up until the very end of the movie, there are the many series.
01:11:17.953 --> 01:11:28.444
[SPEAKER_06]: There was those way too much time for her to develop castor and as a character on the screen that
01:11:31.208 --> 01:11:34.932
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's a no-brainer that definitely changes the best thing.
01:11:35.833 --> 01:11:47.524
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, maybe if me alone, we got more scenes where she had to say something other than Joseph or Michael, 20 times, I felt like it would be different.
01:11:47.944 --> 01:11:55.352
[SPEAKER_02]: Michael, I haven't, half of her toys, half of her dialogue is Michael for Joseph, that's it.
01:11:55.572 --> 01:11:56.813
[SPEAKER_02]: So, sorry.
01:11:56.833 --> 01:11:59.916
[SPEAKER_06]: Or just looking at him like, I can't believe you said that shit.
01:12:00.554 --> 01:12:01.576
[SPEAKER_06]: or just looking for out.
01:12:02.357 --> 01:12:02.577
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
01:12:04.380 --> 01:12:05.261
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:12:05.281 --> 01:12:05.381
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:12:05.401 --> 01:12:05.462
[SPEAKER_02]: OK.
01:12:05.682 --> 01:12:08.666
[SPEAKER_02]: They did try to give her a little bit of prostitutes to disappear in the room.
01:12:09.628 --> 01:12:14.515
[SPEAKER_02]: She's going to disappear in the room and also be timid as a timid captain.
01:12:14.536 --> 01:12:17.240
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, yeah, to be one of the other.
01:12:17.260 --> 01:12:17.480
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
01:12:17.500 --> 01:12:19.423
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I do, like, I think that
01:12:20.146 --> 01:12:22.790
[SPEAKER_06]: All right, saying they're okay, by launch, I'm not saying that.
01:12:23.230 --> 01:12:36.610
[SPEAKER_06]: But I do think that maybe I'll lean a bit more into looks-wise, like how she looks like her back in the 70s in the 80s, for more of a portrayal.
01:12:37.691 --> 01:12:43.039
[SPEAKER_06]: Then it was just like, we need to go find somebody who'll be able to capture what we got from Angela.
01:12:43.300 --> 01:12:44.922
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly, yeah, they're no comparison.
01:12:45.443 --> 01:12:47.065
[SPEAKER_03]: To me, this was a little bit more harder.
01:12:47.737 --> 01:12:48.518
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
01:12:48.538 --> 01:12:52.023
[SPEAKER_03]: And this is Jason Weaver in Julia de Vado.
01:12:54.427 --> 01:12:56.650
[SPEAKER_03]: Jason Weaver, no good.
01:12:56.670 --> 01:12:56.990
[SPEAKER_03]: Listen.
01:12:57.311 --> 01:12:59.854
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not gonna say no question, but I'm still also gonna say to you.
01:12:59.914 --> 01:13:01.837
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm gonna just say Jason, I'm gonna say it.
01:13:02.518 --> 01:13:03.399
[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm not gonna need you.
01:13:03.419 --> 01:13:07.325
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not gonna go disrespect him and say no question, though.
01:13:07.345 --> 01:13:11.791
[SPEAKER_06]: I listen, I told you my, my qualms with this with this fire.
01:13:13.294 --> 01:13:14.976
[SPEAKER_06]: And we always complain about
01:13:16.306 --> 01:13:18.908
[SPEAKER_06]: grown-ass people playing high school and things like that.
01:13:18.928 --> 01:13:22.712
[SPEAKER_06]: I was like, and then why would you hate these 26-year-olds out here pretending to be 15?
01:13:22.772 --> 01:13:26.135
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, but I stand by.
01:13:26.155 --> 01:13:33.201
[SPEAKER_06]: It's easier to be older and play down than it is to be younger and play up.
01:13:33.701 --> 01:13:34.802
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
01:13:34.822 --> 01:13:46.212
[SPEAKER_06]: Because it's, it just, it seems, I'm not going to say unrealistic,
01:13:46.816 --> 01:13:53.732
[SPEAKER_06]: The same little boy who's singing a big boy and they live in Rome.
01:13:54.955 --> 01:14:02.091
[SPEAKER_06]: And Marlon, who is a year-old at him, is damn into the same size as Tito and Jackie.
01:14:03.033 --> 01:14:07.862
[SPEAKER_06]: And they're starting to grow up and evolve into the characters that they're going to become.
01:14:08.283 --> 01:14:09.806
[SPEAKER_06]: And he's still the same little boy.
01:14:09.866 --> 01:14:13.733
[SPEAKER_06]: He's posed to be like, what, 12, 13 and 14 or something like that.
01:14:13.793 --> 01:14:16.358
[SPEAKER_06]: What, what, what was the age, what was the end?
01:14:16.418 --> 01:14:21.548
[SPEAKER_03]: That's how I'm trying to explain to you that as I do agree, he's only Michael.
01:14:21.730 --> 01:14:28.161
[SPEAKER_03]: until like according to what they're trying to portray is like maybe the ABC album.
01:14:28.221 --> 01:14:28.782
[SPEAKER_03]: That's it.
01:14:29.443 --> 01:14:31.587
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like he's not looking through the windows, Michael.
01:14:31.627 --> 01:14:33.090
[SPEAKER_03]: He's not dancing machine, Michael.
01:14:33.450 --> 01:14:35.374
[SPEAKER_06]: And we know he's not dancing machine, Michael.
01:14:35.394 --> 01:14:36.716
[SPEAKER_06]: They was teenagers about it.
01:14:36.776 --> 01:14:39.621
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm saying from the time of...
01:14:41.086 --> 01:14:47.536
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if it's a one week, like we said, they had much more time to develop the character than the many series.
01:14:47.556 --> 01:14:50.260
[SPEAKER_06]: So it's not truly a fair comparison.
01:14:52.303 --> 01:14:59.314
[SPEAKER_06]: But I just, I still felt like I know he was small and still kind of timid.
01:15:00.876 --> 01:15:06.164
[SPEAKER_06]: But I'm like, y'all did so much to make him look like he's so much smaller and younger.
01:15:06.325 --> 01:15:07.887
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not believing that he's,
01:15:08.491 --> 01:15:09.973
[SPEAKER_06]: getting any older with them.
01:15:11.014 --> 01:15:17.522
[SPEAKER_06]: Like by the time we went from, they were small, they were singing a little and some sketchy joints.
01:15:18.383 --> 01:15:28.656
[SPEAKER_06]: By the time we got to California, he was Jason Weaver, I'm like, we went from 66 and they were performing and trying to still figure it out.
01:15:29.037 --> 01:15:35.865
[SPEAKER_06]: They get to California and he don't look like five years span for a little boy at a long time.
01:15:36.065 --> 01:15:41.971
[SPEAKER_06]: And I'm just like, it's easier to play to beat up and play down than to be down and play up.
01:15:41.991 --> 01:15:43.453
[SPEAKER_06]: And I'm not saying he didn't do good job.
01:15:43.473 --> 01:15:44.574
[SPEAKER_06]: I think he did a phenomenal job.
01:15:45.134 --> 01:15:47.537
[SPEAKER_06]: But his part was rushed.
01:15:48.238 --> 01:15:54.244
[SPEAKER_06]: So I don't think we got to see the full potential of him playing a younger Michael any more.
01:15:54.264 --> 01:16:00.150
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't only think he'd be sad, I'm not trying to say this to sound wrong or anything like that.
01:16:00.170 --> 01:16:03.253
[SPEAKER_03]: The only thing that he'd be sad is we were on is the look.
01:16:04.752 --> 01:16:31.907
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he looks like he looks more like he has more of the adorable cutie look like you put a purple hat on him and it's all of the show that's for that that said little Michael he's playing yeah and I think he has more of a more of the Mike look that Jason weaver did but I saw that Jason weaver over all this is better yeah it's interesting something's on shit so I was like you know
01:16:32.410 --> 01:16:34.114
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, because he didn't, did he think his own song?
01:16:34.154 --> 01:16:36.139
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, but I don't think he did.
01:16:36.179 --> 01:16:36.479
[SPEAKER_03]: Who's up?
01:16:36.660 --> 01:16:38.083
[SPEAKER_06]: I think that was a track.
01:16:38.384 --> 01:16:39.386
[SPEAKER_06]: I was thinking that was a track.
01:16:39.406 --> 01:16:42.614
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, when he was singing in the booth, I was like, that might be him.
01:16:43.115 --> 01:16:46.302
[SPEAKER_06]: But when he was saying who's loving you, I was like, this sounds like a recording.
01:16:46.906 --> 01:16:49.089
[SPEAKER_02]: Now all of that was the all of that was on the court.
01:16:49.409 --> 01:16:50.250
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, you don't say.
01:16:50.851 --> 01:16:58.700
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, I was wondering, and I was just like, you might make me believe that when he was in there moving, he was giving me five minutes, that could have been him.
01:16:59.200 --> 01:17:02.044
[SPEAKER_06]: But the who's loving you, I was like, this is this is the track.
01:17:02.064 --> 01:17:03.105
[SPEAKER_06]: Uh-huh.
01:17:03.125 --> 01:17:09.392
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, and it's always good to have a, you know, somebody who can act and sing.
01:17:09.512 --> 01:17:09.793
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
01:17:10.894 --> 01:17:16.120
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's one thing I wish, I don't know if it'll get into it.
01:17:17.129 --> 01:17:21.937
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm assuming that's on the, but I look at which we list what it did half and half.
01:17:21.997 --> 01:17:25.242
[SPEAKER_02]: Half of absolute jar and half of Michael.
01:17:25.983 --> 01:17:28.267
[SPEAKER_06]: Hmm.
01:17:28.287 --> 01:17:28.687
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
01:17:28.768 --> 01:17:29.809
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't mind your card.
01:17:31.432 --> 01:17:32.053
[SPEAKER_06]: Like singing.
01:17:32.554 --> 01:17:35.779
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm like, I'm not saying he wasn't actually singing.
01:17:35.799 --> 01:17:36.941
[SPEAKER_02]: Like they've missed the voices.
01:17:37.081 --> 01:17:41.027
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm saying I wouldn't like just because the jar can actually sing.
01:17:41.598 --> 01:17:45.403
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to try to, you know, because like even like the temptations movie had happened.
01:17:45.423 --> 01:17:47.967
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm saying forever happen to actual songs.
01:17:47.987 --> 01:17:51.512
[SPEAKER_02]: I just thought to make you feel more like it's in reality.
01:17:51.532 --> 01:17:55.417
[SPEAKER_03]: He had to use that book because that that is not the human nature trick.
01:17:57.580 --> 01:17:58.622
[SPEAKER_03]: That's all the human nature.
01:17:58.962 --> 01:18:01.005
[SPEAKER_03]: Is that the downside of the video torture?
01:18:01.045 --> 01:18:04.390
[SPEAKER_02]: No, that's, that's the bad one in women.
01:18:06.353 --> 01:18:10.238
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, don't let me want it.
01:18:10.555 --> 01:18:13.278
[SPEAKER_02]: It took all his life in forms and they just took it from another.
01:18:15.400 --> 01:18:16.081
[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of forms.
01:18:16.141 --> 01:18:23.128
[SPEAKER_02]: So I wish like they would actually just recreate it, the sound and just had him sing at least a lot of functions of it.
01:18:23.148 --> 01:18:24.590
[SPEAKER_02]: Then that was from Triumph to where?
01:18:24.810 --> 01:18:25.371
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, not that.
01:18:26.332 --> 01:18:32.338
[SPEAKER_02]: So I was like, yeah, I wish they probably would give him a chance to sing because he can actually sing the lyrics, because I don't mind Michael.
01:18:32.779 --> 01:18:38.925
[SPEAKER_02]: When he sang it, what I said, they just kind of like, had him sing to have Michael singing, they just mixed it with.
01:18:39.361 --> 01:18:48.150
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, we can always say that the Jackson American Dream is better than the Jackson's in Obviously obviously because they did not exist at all.
01:18:48.571 --> 01:19:09.013
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, because we didn't know who these people were When they filmed the Jackson and we didn't know Terrence Howard was going to become Terrence Howard So it's not like back then we would have known that but y'all took the time to tell us who they were even though Y'all went and got that middle-aged Randy
01:19:11.440 --> 01:19:21.873
[SPEAKER_03]: But also, I put Motown Casay, which is like the very voice and Susan, who's in the past is, we are in a voice in the American dream.
01:19:22.134 --> 01:19:35.110
[SPEAKER_03]: We know Vanessa Williams is in the past, but now when it comes to the break, let's be fair, when it comes to the very voice, Billy, I don't have enough to even compare the lyrics and Billy, that may have had three scenes in this movie.
01:19:38.094 --> 01:19:40.317
[SPEAKER_06]: Three, two and a half, for real, for real.
01:19:41.107 --> 01:19:44.093
[SPEAKER_06]: and y'all didn't really give us much to work with.
01:19:44.253 --> 01:19:45.876
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't think that he did a bad job.
01:19:47.439 --> 01:19:48.020
[SPEAKER_06]: He was there.
01:19:48.160 --> 01:19:49.924
[SPEAKER_06]: He did good enough for me to capture.
01:19:49.944 --> 01:19:50.866
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, that's very gourdy.
01:19:51.226 --> 01:19:51.667
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:19:51.687 --> 01:19:55.915
[SPEAKER_02]: But Billy D is Billy D. He's doing the audition enough.
01:19:55.935 --> 01:19:56.196
[SPEAKER_06]: No.
01:19:56.536 --> 01:19:56.817
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
01:19:57.919 --> 01:19:58.300
[SPEAKER_02]: You all right?
01:19:58.420 --> 01:19:59.101
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
01:19:59.121 --> 01:20:01.325
[SPEAKER_06]: Suzanne the pass could have just not been in this movie.
01:20:01.345 --> 01:20:03.790
[SPEAKER_06]: And I'm not saying that cause I didn't want her to be.
01:20:04.057 --> 01:20:13.910
[SPEAKER_06]: She had no impact and like there was nothing there like she didn't Did she have two full of she did she had two she had at least two full lines.
01:20:14.130 --> 01:20:23.943
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah She was at most out of twenty five and it'd be like, I'll be in touch That's not a full line.
01:20:24.204 --> 01:20:28.189
[SPEAKER_06]: It's not like we're less not let's not do this.
01:20:28.750 --> 01:20:33.456
[SPEAKER_06]: I feel like you'll play in a ladyface personally So
01:20:34.381 --> 01:20:38.587
[SPEAKER_06]: Those two, we don't even, can't even compare.
01:20:39.348 --> 01:20:39.769
[SPEAKER_03]: I understand.
01:20:40.129 --> 01:20:45.337
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, so we won't know about CatGram and, and, how can I be paid for it?
01:20:45.517 --> 01:20:46.138
[SPEAKER_03]: We won't know about it.
01:20:46.498 --> 01:20:48.261
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's so, but then, just the last one.
01:20:48.401 --> 01:20:48.822
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course.
01:20:49.643 --> 01:20:51.646
[SPEAKER_03]: Jafar or Wally.
01:20:55.531 --> 01:20:58.215
[SPEAKER_06]: I...
01:20:58.295 --> 01:20:59.497
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't have that, that was a little harder.
01:20:59.797 --> 01:21:00.618
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yes, for sure.
01:21:00.739 --> 01:21:02.481
[SPEAKER_06]: I always liked...
01:21:03.794 --> 01:21:09.760
[SPEAKER_06]: Wally Draper's portrayal of Michael before this.
01:21:11.142 --> 01:21:17.889
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, I don't just like it now, but like before this, that was, of course, the gold standard because he didn't have anybody else that really did a great job portraying him.
01:21:18.629 --> 01:21:25.757
[SPEAKER_03]: She was, he had somebody else who was... To a flat it, you didn't, you didn't, flat it was, you didn't have the 65 Michael?
01:21:26.017 --> 01:21:27.619
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, you won't make me sign out right now.
01:21:29.941 --> 01:21:30.662
[UNKNOWN]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha, flat it.
01:21:31.250 --> 01:21:34.555
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm like, besides that, he don't only have the black person who damn played him.
01:21:34.575 --> 01:21:49.635
[SPEAKER_06]: So, I, I don't know, I really, I really liked his portrayal up until now, and I'm like, but you're far just, he looks so much like him.
01:21:49.655 --> 01:21:51.017
[SPEAKER_06]: He sounds so much like him.
01:21:52.459 --> 01:21:59.569
[SPEAKER_06]: He has an unfair advantage, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, I don't know.
01:22:01.017 --> 01:22:01.778
[SPEAKER_03]: How about you, Farah?
01:22:03.200 --> 01:22:04.943
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I would have saved.
01:22:06.345 --> 01:22:10.271
[SPEAKER_02]: I like to far, only because the far has the small minerals was there and the boys.
01:22:10.651 --> 01:22:10.952
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
01:22:11.052 --> 01:22:12.634
[SPEAKER_02]: I like widely strippers.
01:22:13.235 --> 01:22:15.338
[SPEAKER_02]: But overall, I like widely strippers.
01:22:15.398 --> 01:22:19.404
[SPEAKER_02]: The team might, but when he gets like older Mike, I like to farm better.
01:22:19.564 --> 01:22:22.188
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know because before I got that team right now too.
01:22:23.149 --> 01:22:25.132
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if we got to see my team.
01:22:25.232 --> 01:22:27.476
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't see the dance machine here.
01:22:27.976 --> 01:22:28.758
[SPEAKER_02]: That name's doing.
01:22:28.858 --> 01:22:30.400
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, okay, I can see the head.
01:22:30.970 --> 01:22:38.622
[SPEAKER_06]: Like when we got introduced to him in Jackson's the American Dream when they were doing dance machine, they were planning about not having any creative control.
01:22:39.643 --> 01:22:39.783
[SPEAKER_06]: Uh-huh.
01:22:39.803 --> 01:22:54.025
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, if we had a chance, um, if somebody liked or made out of the studio, and we had a chance to get the jacks on, then maybe I would have...
01:22:54.848 --> 01:23:08.812
[SPEAKER_06]: Maybe I will feel differently, but we don't get enough teen might really to compare the two Yeah, I will say He was like Jackson's that will not stand.
01:23:09.133 --> 01:23:16.225
[SPEAKER_06]: We will not be doing that I think they did that's the one thing.
01:23:16.446 --> 01:23:20.012
[SPEAKER_06]: I think they might have did right between these two is
01:23:21.072 --> 01:23:31.905
[SPEAKER_06]: They're just like on the cusp of where, like Juliano is just on the cusp of right before we get to where Jason, we've probably would have been at age wise.
01:23:32.666 --> 01:23:43.479
[SPEAKER_06]: And like when they introduce Wiley, he is just a little bit younger than where he would have been when they introduced you far.
01:23:43.539 --> 01:23:47.063
[SPEAKER_06]: So it's like, it's not the recomperson's.
01:23:48.072 --> 01:23:52.456
[SPEAKER_06]: But performance wise, of course, I prefer Jafar.
01:23:52.676 --> 01:23:53.717
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
01:23:53.737 --> 01:24:07.249
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, but you know, he might edge it out just a little bit from me, between the two of them, just a, like, a smudgeon.
01:24:08.950 --> 01:24:10.031
[SPEAKER_03]: I, I, I want to see this.
01:24:10.692 --> 01:24:10.792
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
01:24:11.592 --> 01:24:17.978
[SPEAKER_03]: So my thing is, I got, I, I've been studying these.
01:24:18.194 --> 01:24:19.135
[SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm.
01:24:19.155 --> 01:24:21.157
[SPEAKER_03]: He had hella energy.
01:24:22.379 --> 01:24:22.519
[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
01:24:22.539 --> 01:24:22.880
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:24:23.320 --> 01:24:24.021
[SPEAKER_03]: Hella energy.
01:24:24.221 --> 01:24:24.722
[SPEAKER_03]: I like that.
01:24:25.162 --> 01:24:28.146
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think he had to do the resemblance look.
01:24:28.166 --> 01:24:36.936
[SPEAKER_03]: But where I think the Farguis to edge it is that voice, the mannerisms.
01:24:37.557 --> 01:24:37.897
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
01:24:38.718 --> 01:24:46.227
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
01:24:46.966 --> 01:24:53.435
[SPEAKER_03]: While your draper is dancing, like, season-mike.
01:24:55.057 --> 01:25:06.011
[SPEAKER_03]: To far, it's like, I'm going to show you the evolution because once again, like, if you look at, because I was looking at comparison between to far, both have 25 performance and while your draper's, right?
01:25:06.592 --> 01:25:12.020
[SPEAKER_03]: While your draper comes in with the full energy, his moonwalk is clean, and, you know what I'm saying?
01:25:12.040 --> 01:25:13.902
[SPEAKER_03]: He does everything right, but the thing is,
01:25:14.877 --> 01:25:21.710
[SPEAKER_03]: Michael's, most of the time more I was not there, it was the first one, he perfected it as it was.
01:25:22.151 --> 01:25:25.618
[SPEAKER_03]: And before I was like, I'm giving you all that exact one.
01:25:26.760 --> 01:25:30.507
[SPEAKER_03]: And then it was like, I'm going to give you all the not perfected mood war.
01:25:31.043 --> 01:25:35.588
[SPEAKER_03]: But then when I do the bad performance, y'all gonna get this shit clean, you know what I'm saying?
01:25:35.608 --> 01:25:42.036
[SPEAKER_03]: And to be able to hold yourself back from that, cause he can easily just go and just give him more because it's a move-off.
01:25:42.056 --> 01:25:44.959
[SPEAKER_03]: But he's like, he's the attention to detail that he does.
01:25:46.180 --> 01:25:48.723
[SPEAKER_03]: And ever, I don't mean a move-off working day and night either.
01:25:49.845 --> 01:25:50.505
[SPEAKER_06]: A news coming.
01:25:50.666 --> 01:25:51.827
[SPEAKER_06]: I knew it was coming.
01:25:51.847 --> 01:25:54.991
[SPEAKER_06]: I was like, he finished saying something about this move-off doing a work-over-day night.
01:25:55.852 --> 01:25:58.755
[SPEAKER_03]: It, listen, listen, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that,
01:25:59.984 --> 01:26:04.491
[SPEAKER_03]: for the theater, for the theater, for the story.
01:26:04.691 --> 01:26:06.053
[SPEAKER_03]: I understand why they use that song.
01:26:06.854 --> 01:26:07.895
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
01:26:07.915 --> 01:26:08.977
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't understand why they use the song.
01:26:08.997 --> 01:26:10.339
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't understand why he's the guy.
01:26:10.359 --> 01:26:14.245
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna say, because it was talk of Joseph, you got to be working day and night.
01:26:14.265 --> 01:26:15.707
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the, you know, it's the play on the word.
01:26:16.087 --> 01:26:16.468
[SPEAKER_03]: I get it.
01:26:16.488 --> 01:26:17.349
[SPEAKER_03]: I understand the song.
01:26:17.569 --> 01:26:22.416
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't think they would just replace me because Randy said, I use a shaky body down through the ground, damn it.
01:26:22.797 --> 01:26:23.738
[SPEAKER_06]: Shake something else.
01:26:23.758 --> 01:26:25.181
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, I understand.
01:26:25.501 --> 01:26:29.687
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's just, that's something Michael isn't that I have to just get someone there
01:26:30.258 --> 01:26:37.695
[SPEAKER_02]: Just because a person's intent is impersonating like when you don't have the automatically don't walk on some of you don't do it now.
01:26:37.755 --> 01:26:48.520
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, well, I'm looking for a little criminal and all that and they do the walk and whatever I'm like, but but but but you have to also please the casual fans because
01:26:48.787 --> 01:26:49.949
[SPEAKER_03]: when you hear Michael Jackson.
01:26:50.029 --> 01:26:52.212
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't do the moonwalking every single moonwalking.
01:26:52.232 --> 01:26:55.457
[SPEAKER_03]: But they don't know that every single moonwalking.
01:26:55.477 --> 01:26:55.677
[SPEAKER_03]: I put out.
01:26:55.697 --> 01:26:56.959
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, our sufferings, right?
01:26:57.860 --> 01:27:00.884
[SPEAKER_03]: He don't know that he don't move work to work in that or bad.
01:27:00.904 --> 01:27:09.056
[SPEAKER_06]: No, okay, but I feel like you're gonna be doing it, moving forward.
01:27:09.156 --> 01:27:11.740
[SPEAKER_06]: We did, people associate that now.
01:27:12.091 --> 01:27:14.834
[SPEAKER_06]: with Billy Jean because of that performance.
01:27:14.955 --> 01:27:20.181
[SPEAKER_06]: So I'm like, I'm not a special you to go back and be out here doing it off the wall.
01:27:20.201 --> 01:27:22.123
[SPEAKER_06]: So I took off the wall stuff.
01:27:22.143 --> 01:27:24.206
[SPEAKER_06]: You might be doing it from here on out.
01:27:24.827 --> 01:27:27.410
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, but I'm like, okay, you did it for Billy Jean.
01:27:27.470 --> 01:27:30.133
[SPEAKER_06]: That's the song we wanted to see it in.
01:27:30.614 --> 01:27:35.700
[SPEAKER_06]: If he hadn't, like, he didn't do it again in the Jackson-American Dream.
01:27:36.161 --> 01:27:40.326
[SPEAKER_06]: If he hadn't done it again, I'd have been like, cool, we got the moonwalk.
01:27:41.116 --> 01:27:46.182
[SPEAKER_02]: No, we got that's that's what we came here That should have been yeah, okay, should have been on the time we got it.
01:27:46.202 --> 01:27:47.724
[SPEAKER_03]: No, okay Yeah, okay, I say you don't do it.
01:27:47.744 --> 01:27:48.185
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't bad.
01:27:48.205 --> 01:28:08.811
[SPEAKER_06]: Need it and again I get why your might don't want to throw that in there and knowing now That was the first thing they filmed is like I'm just I'm throwing everything to the wall to see what sticks So cool, but I do think if he only did it during Billy Jean because that was such just like great moment
01:28:09.635 --> 01:28:25.821
[SPEAKER_06]: that would have been completely fine y'all saw it it happened he got on the toes he didn't move walk you know he threw the hat all on all he checked all the boxes that's what we needed yeah I did not need it during working day night I grew to I grew to
01:28:25.987 --> 01:28:53.192
[SPEAKER_03]: Because they have a dance for this song and it worked, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I
01:28:53.425 --> 01:28:56.469
[SPEAKER_02]: Not doing the song, it's just like him breaking the music down.
01:28:56.529 --> 01:29:00.193
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like break it down, break it down.
01:29:00.414 --> 01:29:02.777
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, he's doing like he's just dancing.
01:29:02.897 --> 01:29:03.437
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, sure.
01:29:04.098 --> 01:29:08.123
[SPEAKER_06]: But maybe that's why they bring it in there, because that's what it means.
01:29:08.804 --> 01:29:12.909
[SPEAKER_02]: He's doing it in the chorus of working day 90s.
01:29:13.350 --> 01:29:13.510
[UNKNOWN]: Erskies.
01:29:17.590 --> 01:29:24.542
[SPEAKER_03]: It's it I get it, but do you want to showcase like, oh, wait a second.
01:29:24.562 --> 01:29:26.947
[SPEAKER_03]: He dances like, you know, let's see the ball well.
01:29:27.047 --> 01:29:28.028
[SPEAKER_03]: It's unfortunate.
01:29:28.149 --> 01:29:31.414
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, he's so synonymous with just that.
01:29:31.434 --> 01:29:33.418
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, but he does so much.
01:29:33.438 --> 01:29:34.540
[SPEAKER_06]: He does a bunch of other stuff.
01:29:35.181 --> 01:29:36.644
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I have a question.
01:29:36.664 --> 01:29:36.904
[SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
01:29:38.086 --> 01:29:39.649
[SPEAKER_02]: On release performances.
01:29:40.287 --> 01:29:43.952
[SPEAKER_02]: Just saying yes or no, if you're like, oh, oh, oh, do you think it'll be?
01:29:44.432 --> 01:29:45.674
[SPEAKER_02]: You think he wouldn't want to deceive it.
01:29:46.014 --> 01:29:46.374
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
01:29:46.395 --> 01:29:48.717
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes or no, mark with you.
01:29:48.737 --> 01:29:49.058
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
01:29:49.418 --> 01:29:49.699
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
01:29:52.582 --> 01:29:55.626
[SPEAKER_02]: Like perform a lot of just like the video.
01:29:57.048 --> 01:29:57.748
[SPEAKER_02]: Shit.
01:29:57.769 --> 01:29:58.349
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to.
01:29:58.489 --> 01:29:58.790
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to.
01:29:58.850 --> 01:29:59.270
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to.
01:29:59.451 --> 01:30:00.892
[SPEAKER_06]: I want to see that cheap as video.
01:30:01.673 --> 01:30:02.134
[SPEAKER_02]: He did.
01:30:02.214 --> 01:30:03.355
[SPEAKER_02]: So he did it live.
01:30:03.916 --> 01:30:08.061
[SPEAKER_02]: When that was for the, um, I'm some day just to the head of Ford.
01:30:08.422 --> 01:30:08.742
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
01:30:09.430 --> 01:30:11.073
[SPEAKER_02]: Another part of me.
01:30:11.093 --> 01:30:12.135
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, that's?
01:30:12.496 --> 01:30:12.596
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:30:12.616 --> 01:30:14.299
[SPEAKER_02]: Bro, come with me as well, that's what I'm saying.
01:30:14.359 --> 01:30:18.026
[SPEAKER_06]: Give me Cheryl Crowe, Cheryl Crowe in the background, get her life.
01:30:18.046 --> 01:30:19.809
[SPEAKER_03]: Because they showed up and she had him in the suit.
01:30:19.829 --> 01:30:21.152
[SPEAKER_03]: They recorded that performance.
01:30:21.192 --> 01:30:21.573
[SPEAKER_06]: They did?
01:30:21.593 --> 01:30:22.094
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
01:30:22.354 --> 01:30:28.806
[SPEAKER_03]: No wonder, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
01:30:31.115 --> 01:30:33.460
[SPEAKER_03]: What was it I made it there?
01:30:33.641 --> 01:30:40.416
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean yeah, what I made it that'll be in the next part I'm saying that could have fit in this one.
01:30:40.797 --> 01:30:45.047
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, oh, they could have fit in this one.
01:30:45.267 --> 01:30:50.018
[SPEAKER_06]: No, so no to the last two then I don't feel like another part of me need to be in this one
01:30:50.420 --> 01:30:52.262
[SPEAKER_03]: It probably didn't divide what I want to see.
01:30:52.283 --> 01:30:54.826
[SPEAKER_03]: And obviously the man in the mirror, I don't want to see that from the Grammys.
01:30:54.946 --> 01:31:00.494
[SPEAKER_03]: I look at his, date his bad performance of Man in Mary's Green, but that Grammys was from 89.
01:31:00.574 --> 01:31:03.898
[SPEAKER_06]: I feel like he's... What do you want to go quiet out there?
01:31:04.419 --> 01:31:11.208
[SPEAKER_06]: Man in the mirror would be a, but probably be a good way to start the next movie if not again to some real raw shit.
01:31:11.869 --> 01:31:13.711
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, you ready to turn the movie.
01:31:13.872 --> 01:31:15.854
[SPEAKER_02]: I think, and he did it super well too.
01:31:16.055 --> 01:31:20.140
[SPEAKER_02]: I think unfortunately the last three are in 92.
01:31:20.558 --> 01:31:24.502
[SPEAKER_02]: or at 90, but for like, we need to get them anyway, because we want to go to eight.
01:31:24.522 --> 01:31:32.029
[SPEAKER_02]: But another part of me, definitely, I feel like some of them are up there.
01:31:32.809 --> 01:31:34.911
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I, at least it was last sense.
01:31:35.832 --> 01:31:39.276
[SPEAKER_03]: Another part of me in the mirror, I would just say it for a sequel.
01:31:40.176 --> 01:31:42.439
[SPEAKER_03]: If we're not doing the full thing, I can say it was sequel.
01:31:42.459 --> 01:31:48.304
[SPEAKER_03]: Honestly, once again, I'm just saying I'm not, if, if something happens in the day, they want to trip.
01:31:48.790 --> 01:31:49.791
[SPEAKER_03]: There's no sequel.
01:31:49.851 --> 01:31:51.633
[SPEAKER_03]: You want a few on the food clock feature.
01:31:51.854 --> 01:31:55.418
[SPEAKER_03]: I want the food clock feature You want to say full of fuck.
01:31:55.678 --> 01:32:16.924
[SPEAKER_03]: I want the whole I just want the full promises Yeah, I'll be on the yeah, that would be and that's probably already on the blue right Yeah, like give me like the full performances that we did not get to see in the movie That I mean how can you not do that for a music biopic blue very release?
01:32:17.191 --> 01:32:25.581
[SPEAKER_06]: I do, and I also do feel like why we didn't get to, like, him when the grand Autumn Grammys is kind of a big thing.
01:32:26.322 --> 01:32:27.563
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I didn't win that.
01:32:27.603 --> 01:32:32.229
[SPEAKER_02]: The scene they had to have Jenny in it, what he had said, uh, every month.
01:32:32.249 --> 01:32:45.645
[SPEAKER_03]: You got to, you got to head him to, and first of all, you partied to establish the Deputor brothers are because they will only make sense for him to say, I want to take all of us, it includes even to me.
01:32:48.005 --> 01:32:53.413
[SPEAKER_03]: You don't make sense now because it's like, you're being built as a junior little jealousy of from that.
01:32:53.453 --> 01:32:56.017
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm like, so it doesn't make sense to have it.
01:32:56.037 --> 01:33:04.409
[SPEAKER_06]: So it was like, you know, my honest, I said, even if you're at the montage of him getting continuously called to win the game Grammys, I took that even.
01:33:06.031 --> 01:33:11.439
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I, I was going to wish they would have spent more time on that part and also the moon actually won't walk itself.
01:33:11.459 --> 01:33:16.847
[SPEAKER_02]: Like the moon won't shot him and super start
01:33:17.317 --> 01:33:23.522
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just kind of like, yeah, he just did a little performance and I'm just like, yeah.
01:33:24.003 --> 01:33:25.744
[SPEAKER_02]: They actually did a little part of the month.
01:33:25.764 --> 01:33:41.978
[SPEAKER_02]: I just opened the moon on the moon, like sometimes I don't like when they use news outlets to get information, but that's a good way to do it in that time frame, because that's how all new sources, new stations, right?
01:33:43.759 --> 01:33:47.222
[SPEAKER_03]: I think we covered everything that we need to talk about.
01:33:47.472 --> 01:33:51.137
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I said, so right now, I'm happy that we got to move me.
01:33:51.617 --> 01:34:03.393
[SPEAKER_03]: Hopefully, that can be a blue rate, additional or if they're going to release on digital, you know, saying, and they can add performances to that, because they know the fans want to see that.
01:34:04.574 --> 01:34:06.036
[SPEAKER_03]: And the fans will pay to see that hell.
01:34:06.657 --> 01:34:10.362
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't buy digital shit at all, but if just to add some performance to that.
01:34:10.863 --> 01:34:11.483
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm big brother with you.
01:34:11.544 --> 01:34:13.706
[SPEAKER_06]: I feel like if we're going to perform, this is going to be on a blue rate.
01:34:14.568 --> 01:34:14.948
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:34:15.704 --> 01:34:16.726
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I said that.
01:34:16.746 --> 01:34:18.609
[SPEAKER_06]: So Michael had to see some children how to work a blue ray.
01:34:19.370 --> 01:34:19.650
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:34:20.592 --> 01:34:21.152
[SPEAKER_03]: I see.
01:34:21.173 --> 01:34:21.874
[SPEAKER_03]: That would be like this.
01:34:21.894 --> 01:34:25.018
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, look, here goes some extended performances.
01:34:25.740 --> 01:34:28.083
[SPEAKER_03]: It's important that we didn't get to see the movie.
01:34:28.103 --> 01:34:29.926
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, fuck, yes.
01:34:30.687 --> 01:34:34.854
[SPEAKER_06]: We can get bonus features back in the DVDs back in the day.
01:34:34.874 --> 01:34:34.974
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:34:35.134 --> 01:34:36.637
[SPEAKER_03]: But I would love that.
01:34:36.657 --> 01:34:38.860
[SPEAKER_03]: But you guys want to do that.
01:34:39.413 --> 01:34:53.130
[SPEAKER_06]: You have to have a selling point if y'all been trying your damnedest to face out physical media and y'all already got the pre-ordered for the physical media of this film and we It's only been out a week.
01:34:53.150 --> 01:34:55.032
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, this got to be something on this brewery.
01:34:55.192 --> 01:34:57.875
[SPEAKER_03]: It got to be something I'm I'm hoping something.
01:34:57.895 --> 01:35:07.627
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to soon always September and all man don't win through what I'll be that figure Well, guys, that's what we go to end it Had a great spoil talk with you guys.
01:35:07.647 --> 01:35:08.188
[SPEAKER_03]: It was fun.
01:35:08.268 --> 01:35:09.049
[SPEAKER_03]: I enjoyed it
01:35:09.788 --> 01:35:23.270
[SPEAKER_03]: That's some of them, but we're going to, like, send me a quick, if any other Michael news in, Michael video content that we want to do, we'll talk about it, we'll put, you know, me and probably keep making videos that caught it about it and stuff like that.
01:35:23.290 --> 01:35:34.969
[SPEAKER_03]: Any other news that drops, we're going to talk about it, you know, saying so, but in the meantime, guys, thank you guys for listening, check out all the other great diggers of their coalition umbrella as well.
01:35:35.303 --> 01:35:36.625
[SPEAKER_03]: and we're about to get it right here.
01:35:36.645 --> 01:35:41.230
[SPEAKER_03]: So once again, it's the man with the play, if you need him, you're supposed to have to stay in deep.
01:35:41.250 --> 01:35:42.212
[SPEAKER_03]: Not the eye sense for five times.
01:35:43.073 --> 01:35:44.094
[SPEAKER_03]: I told you what to think.
01:35:45.576 --> 01:35:47.318
[SPEAKER_03]: And the greatest kissley sketch.
01:35:49.180 --> 01:35:50.121
[SPEAKER_06]: Go to bed, Joseph.
01:35:51.503 --> 01:35:51.603
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
01:35:51.623 --> 01:35:55.028
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought she'd go, I thought she'd want to say what she'd want to do.
01:35:55.048 --> 01:35:55.548
[SPEAKER_06]: Be it a bit.
01:35:56.469 --> 01:35:58.772
[SPEAKER_06]: And if you don't like it, you can leave.
01:36:00.454 --> 01:36:02.577
[SPEAKER_06]: You ought to be thanking them.
01:36:03.670 --> 01:36:09.958
[SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately, when I have been there like that, would it end with a vacuum?
01:36:09.978 --> 01:36:12.121
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if I'm going to be a bigger version of you.
01:36:12.542 --> 01:36:13.443
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:36:13.463 --> 01:36:16.907
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you would have been a real lightweight, the way that that scene went.
01:36:16.927 --> 01:36:21.654
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what we see through the whole series.
01:36:21.834 --> 01:36:22.735
[SPEAKER_06]: That is horrible.
01:36:23.276 --> 01:36:29.644
[SPEAKER_06]: But to get played by a giraffe at the end, these was looking at him like bitch.
01:36:32.189 --> 01:36:38.149
[SPEAKER_03]: and make you float away, wherever you are, where take us out.
01:36:51.325 --> 01:37:11.646
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[SPEAKER_03]: Can't we go back and talk about that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They cut can't grab as I in the wall.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, child died of all came out And was just like basically you can see nobody he me doing who's your coach your dance with Almost y'all see this only for us, so listen and so she Demanded that her scenes be cut or she will soon
00:51.500 --> 00:56.426
[SPEAKER_06]: Because honestly, she knows what them clips of her from the 70s and 80s look like.
00:56.967 --> 01:07.159
[SPEAKER_06]: Almost every clip of the two of them interacting is some flirty damn near, I'm, I, I, I don't want you right here, energy.
01:07.600 --> 01:09.582
[SPEAKER_03]: And listen, we're not making a shit up.
01:09.602 --> 01:11.324
[SPEAKER_03]: All you gotta do is go on the internet.
01:11.344 --> 01:12.646
[SPEAKER_03]: It's go google it.
01:12.666 --> 01:15.269
[SPEAKER_03]: The real life stuff is on there.
01:15.289 --> 01:16.450
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm just like, love me.
01:16.751 --> 01:20.275
[SPEAKER_03]: Every time I tell everyone's having a show, she's like, you know, my new come see it on me,
01:20.255 --> 01:47.494
[SPEAKER_06]: Every time every time and they be saying it and then she be hugging and hanging on them and dancing and round them and everything else And I'm like that's cool, but in the same playlist is you talk some about This Michael Jackson and Jason Farbe, he's not absolutely not This will not stand You can do that you talk to him, but who will you get so damn sexy cuz my what girl whoa By the end of this
01:48.352 --> 01:49.794
[SPEAKER_02]: I still feel the same way.
01:49.874 --> 01:59.207
[SPEAKER_02]: I still feel the same way this man this man is 50 years old with dies and said I won't hurt who's at least 65 at the time of whatever she is.
01:59.267 --> 02:00.429
[SPEAKER_02]: Take care of my kids.
02:00.449 --> 02:01.250
[SPEAKER_02]: Not even my mother.
02:01.631 --> 02:02.512
[SPEAKER_02]: Not even my mom.
02:02.652 --> 02:03.493
[SPEAKER_02]: I won't die in a wall.
02:03.533 --> 02:04.675
[SPEAKER_02]: Take care of my kids first.
02:04.695 --> 02:05.857
[SPEAKER_03]: This was his mom first.
02:05.877 --> 02:06.698
[SPEAKER_03]: His mom was first.
02:06.798 --> 02:07.639
[SPEAKER_03]: It was after her.
02:07.759 --> 02:10.984
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was dying in a room and then a dying of a few witnesses.
02:11.032 --> 02:24.602
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, if if character was unable to take care of the kick, that's what's going down because he's a mom's boy So if cats can't do it they go died or I was I don't want to get he a mom's boy
02:26.084 --> 02:27.627
[SPEAKER_06]: He's an upside down.
02:28.168 --> 02:30.092
[SPEAKER_06]: He definitely was upside down.
02:30.112 --> 02:38.508
[SPEAKER_06]: That was like, what is, I mean, but I think naturally, I'm like, this is like, like, you have a crush on her because she's already a star.
02:39.289 --> 02:42.716
[SPEAKER_06]: And everybody, they make a crush on like, she's an OG Eric about do.
02:43.197 --> 02:47.164
[SPEAKER_06]: Don't look her in the eyes too long or some shit might happen kind of an energy.
02:47.144 --> 02:56.594
[SPEAKER_06]: So, I'm like, if you're a kid who has a crush on a star, that's not out of the norm, it's the fact that most people don't have access to these people.
02:56.754 --> 02:57.334
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
02:58.015 --> 02:59.497
[SPEAKER_06]: Once they become adults.
02:59.517 --> 02:59.717
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
03:00.698 --> 03:08.025
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, I was like, oh, I could see why she would be like, I don't really want that in the movie, but I'm like, but Greg, you did it, though.
03:09.106 --> 03:10.167
[SPEAKER_03]: I said, I don't want business.
03:10.768 --> 03:15.733
[SPEAKER_02]: But here's the thing that I did on the whole time movie.
03:16.338 --> 03:17.159
[SPEAKER_03]: Good.
03:17.179 --> 03:17.480
[SPEAKER_03]: What?
03:18.461 --> 03:19.482
[SPEAKER_03]: Say it again, plus she's here.
03:20.263 --> 03:26.031
[SPEAKER_02]: Now I'm just saying, that's like if they did a more time movie, she and more her shady stuff would be very important to be shown, but it doesn't matter.
03:26.051 --> 03:26.972
[SPEAKER_06]: Hell no, she's not going to.
03:27.433 --> 03:30.617
[SPEAKER_06]: As far as we know, Ryan just took up the same daddy as Tracy Yellow's roles.
03:32.620 --> 03:35.043
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's what they have everybody believed, you know?
03:35.063 --> 03:35.724
[SPEAKER_06]: They really did.
03:35.844 --> 03:37.466
[SPEAKER_06]: I was reading it the other day.
03:37.526 --> 03:43.274
[SPEAKER_06]: They had that girl trying to believe up until she was like 13 that she was also about racial.
03:43.474 --> 03:44.235
[SPEAKER_06]: I said, now,
03:45.194 --> 03:48.579
[SPEAKER_06]: Listen, I haven't seen a lot of things in my day.
03:48.619 --> 03:50.101
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what, dad's fucked up.
03:50.121 --> 03:57.911
[SPEAKER_06]: I was just reading article by Pearce Jackson, but, okay, that's the other, that's the coin.
03:57.931 --> 04:00.515
[SPEAKER_06]: But because she, they was like, oh, this is your dad.
04:00.615 --> 04:04.941
[SPEAKER_06]: And I know that girl was like, all right, now you're, let's be so fucker for real.
04:06.002 --> 04:10.088
[SPEAKER_06]: And it's not like she does, she looks like they all look like her.
04:10.068 --> 04:19.264
[SPEAKER_06]: Diana Ross and trick they all have similar faces, but she's just she's a beautiful brown skin woman Yeah, and she was like I look different than my brothers and sisters.
04:19.504 --> 04:21.307
[SPEAKER_06]: Thank you off of you know Let me know.
04:21.367 --> 04:33.207
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not fucking crazy But please Listen and then had them kids around it Build the whole relationship with Barry Gordy I'm sorry
04:34.402 --> 04:51.938
[SPEAKER_06]: and it's also brought more attention on herself now now because everybody is doing this deep diamond because you didn't just let the scenes play out it could have really just been y'all in studio 54 or six of us and nobody would have questioned it because these things happened
04:51.918 --> 04:55.705
[SPEAKER_06]: But that everybody is like, oh boy, what are you going to do?
04:55.725 --> 04:56.607
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?
04:56.627 --> 04:59.633
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, and now you're going to look at it like so, what, what is it?
04:59.713 --> 05:01.637
[SPEAKER_03]: If they're spoke, then it's got to be far.
05:01.657 --> 05:02.559
[SPEAKER_03]: So what is it?
05:02.679 --> 05:04.623
[SPEAKER_03]: And now anybody going back and looking at these clips?
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[SPEAKER_06]: And they put pieces together talking about old age was in a relationship for real and then she broke up with them and but then she was just teasing them and I'm just like, girl.
05:15.593 --> 05:16.815
[SPEAKER_06]: We wouldn't have been here.
05:16.835 --> 05:32.140
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, some people would have pointed it out because the first time I've heard people talk about their relationship and how I was once he became an adult and how I've heard people call her groomer, all kinds of things.
05:32.741 --> 05:42.917
[SPEAKER_06]: That's not new, but I feel like it's even more amplified now because you waited right before the movie came out to be like, absolutely not.
05:43.792 --> 05:46.997
[SPEAKER_03]: That'd be so bad, I'm like, I'm just trying to show y'all about moving.
05:47.317 --> 05:47.998
[SPEAKER_03]: Pretty much.
05:48.018 --> 05:51.243
[SPEAKER_02]: She probably, she probably didn't even have that many scenes anywhere.
05:51.263 --> 05:53.106
[SPEAKER_02]: She probably had a studio 50-40 scene.
05:53.567 --> 05:56.972
[SPEAKER_02]: Probably a lot of the, a lot of the best scenes.
05:57.032 --> 06:00.457
[SPEAKER_02]: And maybe, Motel 25, that's probably the most of her scenes probably.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Unless they shot something's other than that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, but...
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[SPEAKER_02]: Probably.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I think that, that sounds like... Maybe, I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And maybe, maybe she introduces them when they do ABC or something.
06:12.783 --> 06:16.409
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, instead of glad it's night, maybe it would have been dying at all.
06:16.429 --> 06:35.280
[SPEAKER_02]: That's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not what it's like, that's not
06:36.053 --> 07:02.162
[SPEAKER_03]: That wasn't the Apollo or you know where it's supposed to be they was in Chicago It's supposed to be their problem because they probably it's supposed to be their Listen, it's supposed to be a lot of things and they was not supposed to sing a song that didn't come out to three years later But here we are I know it even after four times of singing it is still by the you don't Yeah, either
07:02.733 --> 07:13.950
[SPEAKER_02]: And the practice, you know, it makes me even more upset that they have the nerve to want to add, like, to want to make it a lot of formus, not just a song.
07:14.751 --> 07:17.335
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like, they do actually do it as steps.
07:17.575 --> 07:18.777
[SPEAKER_02]: They do it as steps from the song.
07:19.058 --> 07:19.378
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
07:19.739 --> 07:22.643
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, Joe told them they're steps.
07:22.663 --> 07:22.883
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
07:22.903 --> 07:24.386
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
07:24.766 --> 07:25.147
[SPEAKER_06]: Again.
07:25.207 --> 07:26.929
[SPEAKER_06]: Cook.
07:26.949 --> 07:31.356
[SPEAKER_06]: Now, again, I'm trying my best not to jump ahead.
07:31.555 --> 07:39.606
[SPEAKER_06]: But in the scene, when they're doing the talent show, and he's watching Jackie Wilson in American Dream, what did they do then?
07:39.786 --> 07:42.350
[SPEAKER_06]: They just did, um, twisted shout, right?
07:42.790 --> 07:43.251
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.
07:44.493 --> 07:45.755
[SPEAKER_06]: What was wrong with twisted shout?
07:45.775 --> 07:47.297
[SPEAKER_03]: There's nothing wrong with twisted shout, right?
07:47.317 --> 07:48.759
[SPEAKER_06]: Because you got them dressed the same.
07:48.859 --> 07:59.233
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm like, bro, if you didn't want people to make comparisons between this and the mini series, then y'all shouldn't have did stuff that we, we have clearly seen in this mini series.
07:59.686 --> 08:02.570
[SPEAKER_06]: You got them dressed in the same outfits, maybe because that's what they really wore.
08:02.951 --> 08:05.234
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm sure they also wore it at that, you know.
08:05.254 --> 08:05.935
[SPEAKER_06]: And they're attractive.
08:06.415 --> 08:08.799
[SPEAKER_06]: But I'm sure they also probably actually sing Twister Shout-To.
08:09.540 --> 08:14.026
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I call this song, I always just chose a song from that time.
08:14.086 --> 08:18.652
[SPEAKER_02]: Like kind of, you know, kind of thing, baby, I need to love something different.
08:18.993 --> 08:20.715
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, you know what I'm gotta do with that.
08:21.269 --> 08:22.751
[SPEAKER_02]: Never can't say goodbye.
08:22.911 --> 08:23.412
[SPEAKER_02]: It's choice.
08:24.253 --> 08:24.994
[SPEAKER_06]: It was a choice.
08:25.074 --> 08:49.487
[SPEAKER_03]: Like it didn't have to be y'all got them singing it slow song They couldn't sing twist and shout again the only people I know been famous low in the Jackson's is the athlete So I mean why not right right But okay, but I would that be sick cuz we'll get to the degree uh what are some of the things That we actually like for the movie though before we get to the stuff that we cleared and I like for the movie What's the other things that we've put us on then we like
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[SPEAKER_03]: Honestly, I started off, I did like the capturing, the more human side of Michael, but also his loneliness, and his left for animals.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_03]: As people would look at it as weird, and so they would direct the lawment to giraffe.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You know, both of them, and I'm on the might want to face that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, both of them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll tell you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, both of these news is like, in my eight-know-way,
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[SPEAKER_03]: my eight no way yeah I was just like what did you say far he wasn't using the kid's nobody yeah I'm fair you know about I was just like you know obviously you know that there's something there but I'm just saying but you know he's being lonely and then like when they were able to show he's
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[SPEAKER_03]: that Eddie had.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I love them showing the love for animals.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I can say when it comes to any sort of line though.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'll say that him with his insecurities, but also his loneliness, I give him credit for that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I do like that they took the time in that scene with him like the young Michael Jackson and Neil Long for him to explain why he was so attached to animals.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Because, you know, as far as he did like, oh, he just wanted to zoom.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He's like, I don't handle real friends.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm tired of being
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[SPEAKER_06]: and a zoo animal exhibit for these kids.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You did break the day, I liked that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I like that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I go to school or I try to go to school and they just want to take pictures with me and ask him about, like, what is it like being fake?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Y'all don't want to be my friend for real.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So, I'm gonna go get some friends who can't talk back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And who are going to love me back?
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[SPEAKER_06]: So, I mean, and that's unfortunate, like that that's how that worked out for him.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But I was like y'all could have bought that baby some friends.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He wouldn't have been there literally Oh, they're never been there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's fucking play twist it.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Honestly, I'm like, but they lived and I always thought about that I was like, you're never in a nice neighborhood in an affluent area I'm sure there are other celebrity children around So, you got a problem?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, you know, you got a her
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[SPEAKER_03]: with Janet said, and what Mike said, especially in some terms of Jimmy, they were the only black family in that area.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And a lot of times, especially
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[SPEAKER_03]: Once again, a lot of people think that you, of course, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They think, once King died, it's 16, recently.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, we are only three years removed from the assassination that they came.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So there was still racism that they did.
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[SPEAKER_06]: There was tension and thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That they dealt with being
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[SPEAKER_03]: Black people with money coming into Insino and living in the space.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it was just easy to go out there and like, hey, there's other celebrity friends that you could make it be a friend around.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But as I'm saying, I'm like, I feel like you'll have, at this point, you have staffing things.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Even if it wasn't in your neighborhood and like, was there no other celebrity kids who are used to all this kind of fanfare?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, they didn't at one point live with Barry Gordy when it was recording and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's where the haze will come in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So they would play games over there, but other than that, the only people that they played with was like, more time already.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you know, it's like, they playing basketball, and we're like, the temptation of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They all older people.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And when they were host parties, I said, you know, it will be, you know, it's put, you know, his breath is kind of right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it would be that dynamic to the point where they they'll be other celebrity kids that will come over But once again, but he's still he's still the young kid because Mike was saying yeah, this would Mike said I would walk around Look, just look at for friend I walk around the neighborhood It look for so
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was only doing her every seven years by yourself, but all right, it was more dead or late 70 because he was doing this I think as late as 1980 like when he was going on with that damn llama Exactly, they put in their wages walking around the neighborhood walking his life He's like hello, they did look at him like what the fuck like you get a lot more from literally I'm saying yeah, but that's that that's what we're happy and that you were just sitting there
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[SPEAKER_03]: and just try to find friends or somebody who just wanted to be his friend and the only friends he ever had was his brothers and once they grew out and moved out of the house.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And that's why I was such a big backlash.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Because...
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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, well, she's going to be weird.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I get it logically.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I get it, but I'm just like, that really fucking sucks.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It does.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like, y'all already made this child grow up too fast, because you thrust him into the spotlight at a very young age.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And then nobody was ensuring that he had any kind of, like, same age interaction at all.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He just around all these adults doing God knows what.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like, come on, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but remember when I was in the documentary when David Bowie was asking him a radio and like, you know, you were gonna try something that's cool.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, damn, you had a party at my house.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But, you know what I'm saying, but that was a normal back then.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That was something that was something to not like, you know, it did the friends that Mike had a Gary, they stayed in Gary.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Of course.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_06]: You know, you can fly them out and they would
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is that, and I said, this is in the fresh print.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That's why I made what's going back to your hand and out chicken.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like...
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[SPEAKER_03]: According to Fred and Gith.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But that, and also just, you know, the music performances, I suppose though that APP... All the performances were good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They paid extreme amount of detail.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Not some time for the choices, but I'm just saying we came to the Default Parts.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They paid extreme amount of detail.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think I really love how they because I really didn't look I wanted to see more of it But I had a handle so I didn't get enough.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They turned it to a montage, but they also did a jump cut into the video Did you?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'd be like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I was like, but because that's my favorite part of that video because you Then what's it going to show the whole video have been sitting in this behind the grease screen, you know But when the three mics come out I was like, oh, I didn't find every single time and I was like there was dope
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, in my time, I didn't want to shoot 54 stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I, I, I appreciated that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I understand, you know, for, for the creativity, how they did throw her.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so they didn't montage to the 54.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was, it showed like a single number of like once taking, and it showed another second, and it showed another second.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's
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[SPEAKER_02]: and every other clip that you want to show three seconds.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And also the the COVID version of your far scenes I thought were really well done also.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll think about family framing this maybe you should maybe you should because I think they did pay a lot of attention to that when it comes to him wanting to you know fire his day him finding out about it or you like you felt the tension every time Joseph wanted
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[SPEAKER_03]: every single time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And even when they did the recreases of some of the moments I said, it doesn't get enough credit for it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like that Pepsi-C, yeah, I felt that felt all that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Don't expect the wild trip or anything.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I said?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Don't expect it that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But they knew what it looked like back then.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But that actually, that's it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my God, put them out.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that was fucked up.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was like, is all these people really able to understand how bad it had led to us are really bad like you like they said you could he could have died yeah and then the part that you don't think about after that Is you're in so much pain now your heart's racing we got to do something to calm you down and get you out of pain because then you could.
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[SPEAKER_06]: send yourself into a farther problem to have nothing to do with the burns because your body don't know how to react.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That's all right.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It was bad, that's bad, all that damn activator.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Cause I'm like bro, I did ask, I'm like, I, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm sure his head might have still quote on fire, but I'm wondering if it quote on fire, like it did because they had so much like products and shit in their head back then.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Cause they were in like Jerry Curls.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think he was too close to this version as well, so that's that's so that's like the main thing If he maybe if he was if he wasn't if they go off so early Then yeah, he probably wouldn't even even think cool.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and we all we did to take five times.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You want to do another one Or like use another tape I would say Get give me at a different angle, but I was like get that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh Man, I was like it's I don't say that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I was having to put it that was like this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you have to have to
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[SPEAKER_03]: And also you have to because he's for the face of the break, but also we talked about him as a side character who do you know cool Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we skip over Don King because I was like the can be was because that why why we're Don King and What's it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, but it's name and movie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was a walk our mother No, once a year you want to run
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[SPEAKER_06]: I don't remember his last name, I remember his first name as Walter.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, but they did, they did, or he had to know, what did he get to know?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're gonna hold empty feet there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Which I'm glad they showed that scene also.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, we got stuff that we need to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just that we didn't get into it as deep as you wanted to.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I just feel like again, when I saw the first time, I still stand by it.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I don't feel as strongly about it, but I feel like there is, I guess because it was so cut up, and you had to basically put it back together again, that there is something still kind of hollow about it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Um, trying to pack,
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[SPEAKER_06]: 20 years into two and a half hours is no easy feat to pack 20 years into that and then try to build like the character's a character development and you know emotional scenes it's not easy to balance all of that
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[SPEAKER_06]: and I thought you got to be one hell of a filmmaker to do that in the first place, but then you don't have all the creative freedom that you would want anyway.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I don't know what, there was, I still stand by that to some degree, but.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So whatever you saw then at that that you didn't like about the movie?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I feel like it's unfair, technically yes, but I feel like it's unfair to say that because it's like your hands are tired.
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[SPEAKER_06]: what you can do with the situation, with having to reshoot and having to then cut even more out of the movie and then you know start like find a new way to convey your story.
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[SPEAKER_06]: None of that is easy, but I'm like, but it did take a toll, I think, when the movie overall.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, part of Sissy in the four times there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What is something that you did like by the movie?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then I did it like yeah, I didn't like the pacing at some point switch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know a lot of people have said that but yeah, it's like Some points will speed through and some points will sit in it like you like Some points where I wanted to speed through they said in it some points where I wanted to like get more of Understanding the spirit through For somebody you know to be the logo thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought we're gonna get more you know
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[SPEAKER_02]: mention of it or anything that's actually a big part bigger than some other parts that they just focus on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like they need some parts.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I do agree because there are some parts in here that bother me to the point where it is bothered me as much for it being a single move about me because I'm like you would need to try to establish this now going into a potential sequel.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Correct.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like because
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[SPEAKER_06]: no because and that's how it felt at the end of the movie like it was like oh he walking off the stage and he liked Joe it's over and next thing we know he too shades lighter and I'm like wait what what happened exactly we know what happened in real life but what happened is I it I that has to be a central car at a central part
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[SPEAKER_03]: in his development.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We can't just be like, all right, I'm just putting this on to try to bounce that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It got to go deeper than that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: At least a little bit because you got all people going through of what's happening because once again, if people missed it, because I saw it on a second time, he talks about his middle ego on his hand.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And the doctor's has a spree.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he says, no,
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[SPEAKER_03]: maintain it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Basically, with dead, throughout the way, if you see him in the pool, it has spread up his chest or to his hands.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, they put it in there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I give credit for doing that, but if you're looking, you can't see it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then after the Motel 25 performance, and he takes his glove off, it's spreading.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's even looking, looking like it's going to his face.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: But he's just there and he's covering it up with something so make up at that very good company That's the graceful never seen I was like, but the audience my son yeah it's like but to be fair like everybody and once again that they're treating it like you sure we know what sound I put the piece together yourself but everybody don't know that That was the that was the one the things I said after me thought the first time I was like I feel like this
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[SPEAKER_06]: the way it was put back together, it relies a lot on the audience should be drawing these conclusions.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And that's I don't think that's good filmmaking.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It lets you know like super heel film.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'll say it because in that case you can't do whatever you want make it an Annoyance book for all of a fucking care, but this is not this somebody's life.
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[SPEAKER_06]: This is what I like, yes, uh, so tell me not you know, I have to explain something like I'm five, but give me a bit more like we went straight from you on you on stage and then also I explain to me how we doing this because you're sweating under all the lights.
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[SPEAKER_06]: How was none of this starting to peek out at me or anything?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like, I'm sure that had to be something that you had to work out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And you started seeing it like, I always referred to that picture when they was doing, what was that thriller?
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[SPEAKER_06]: When he was in the studio, he took the picture with Quince.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, the band, okay, he had to be because that's when he started getting lighter.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But his face is very obviously a different shade than his hands.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I'm like, give me that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like he, it started spread now.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He's like, well, I guess at some point you can't even out to what your skin tone used to be.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You got to just go with where you're going.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But it may not be spread in as fast when your hands anymore.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So now your hands are still brown and your face is too shazelider.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like tell me that he just, y'all just, um,
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[SPEAKER_02]: had him jumping up and down with all the, uh, daughter, sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let me just say that the Jackson thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Say they put the Jackson manly for victory tour and then the ending of we're done.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then they do something else.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What's still staying that year?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then when we start in a civil or whatever then, that's when you start to go over the skin and then change their color.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, because the way they did it, obviously, it's a good performance for a band.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's like, it just just cuts, he likes getting it and you just end it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it just feels abrupt.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I wanted to stay it and I would just stay it in a bit of a return error We can have those things to fill in that point.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I honestly I think it because honestly it felt like This was outweir if I like ain't trying to fight back for something And it felt like it was like I want to get Something because it was it I think we as fans is 20.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I really think if it had the victory tour
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[SPEAKER_03]: We would have been disappointed.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We'd probably have been more disappointed.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like we didn't have 30 minutes or something.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was like, we could have done something where it was just like, he's walking off after that whole confrontation with Mike Myers about MCB.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Why couldn't it be?
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[SPEAKER_06]: He's walking off and now he's still in the...
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[SPEAKER_06]: creative process for trying to figure out what his next project is going to be in his video comes on MCV, yeah, I just took it, I mean, something like this, and still like a, like a little support and it's like, what's next for Michael Jackson?
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's something and being the video player?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Something, I mean, I don't want to do the same thing, it's how he figured out about the gangs, because we completely skipped a little bit more.
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[SPEAKER_06]: In that vein, like, that we are, like, even if it wasn't, we got thriller then, maybe we got thriller as a premiere elsewhere.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Cause he's like, oh, so let's about to come out, you're gonna love it.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We could have premiered thriller.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: something.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And we could have ended it there and when he turned around and he's he's defar again and we go we fade out and then we get the historic continues thing and we could have did a flashback of when we got to the sequel of okay so here's how we got to now we're doing bad kind of thing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know it's just
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[SPEAKER_06]: It was, you can't tell people how to do a job when you don't do a job.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not a filmmaker.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I just know as a consumer though, I didn't like the, like, here's the influence of this, this, and this, like, put the pieces together.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Even as a person who likes doing that, I wasn't a fan.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not a fan of that in biopics.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you're all going to make great points.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that is a done fortune thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then when we sell this one, which scares me about a sequel about how you can possibly do it or not.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Because how do you follow up with that?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: The whole you, you're basically setting this up to be like, we've been to get dangerous and then depression.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Everything has to be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: As I'm today, it's a, it's an ounce.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They said they're going to do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They said it's green, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and said it's based on for Antoine Fuqua schedule.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Man, we don't get what schedule.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That said, he has a busy schedule, so it's up to him.
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[SPEAKER_06]: What else is he doing?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not being funny.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like what else is he doing?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's doing equalizers.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I thought they canceled that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Awesome movie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, movie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the movie.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, what the hell else is Denzel?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Equalizing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought he retired.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I really thought that we would double equalizers.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Thor, he said he was done after all, that's what they're like, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought he said, I'm not he said, I'm not he said, I'm not he said, I'm we're doing nothing equalized.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to do another something else.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to do black cancer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I'm going to be done.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, how is the lowest cannot be his last movie?
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what that's.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I could probably do what they said.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's something he's scheduled.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So they're going to either film it later this year or early.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tony said.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I won't be honest with you.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I just know a bit and I'd be like no damn expendable.
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[SPEAKER_06]: The last six.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I won't be honest with you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That right there is escape go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because it's because see here's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I could A right by the asking me, I think the sequel seems to be, I was just talking myself about this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to listen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The way the theater works in primary and you know this already.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think the budget was 150 million dollars, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, before or after the cuts, I'm not sure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so let's just throw around the bell because I, I used to know because Tony Baker said it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's use the bell, then the, the full budget is $200 million dollars.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, they just made $217 million globally worldwide.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, naturally, people are going to think well, they made their money back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's not how it works.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because I don't know what it is.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I will hope that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: If don't you have five apples, y'all don't think that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They like what they do think that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They like what they do think that, um, it's, the problem is, you got to pay for all this advertising.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And all this merchandise that comes with the course with the movie, you have to pay for that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Then the theater guy get their cut.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So within that, you have to at least make about $400 million to break even.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Then after that, you got to see how much this thing I've got to listen, how much maybe we can build for a profit after that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now we're saying this as we're going into the summer movie season.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So let's assume that Michael stays in Bioshoff's for over a month.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You still got the worst price coming up this week.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He got Mortal Kombat as coming down.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then we got worse, we're going into
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[SPEAKER_03]: new movies are going to come out every week how much legs this is how how much Michael made his head because a lot people seen it three, four, five times in one weekend how many times because it's going to go further down that a question is they know that Lions gave that I don't know who I'm a sensitive point also but if Lions gave them officially come out and say we're doing a project the CEO
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, that look, he can say this, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Here's the thing, the same is all the personal and try to focus on saying, if we don't make enough money, I can throw it on him because it ain't happening.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, I mean, this is true.
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[SPEAKER_06]: They could be using him as a skateboard, a scapegoat, but I was as you think in more of a, well, we need time to kind of scream when I figure out how we want to do this sequel.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So, let's see, throw it on a scapegoat.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I can't schedule.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I believe they said,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I forgot the whole interview, but he said, like, 30% of what they can't use, they go, they don't use 30% of what they could do, what they couldn't use on that one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he said, they can't mention the allegations, so that's going to be scrapped.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But we took a visit, we see here's the thing, that they're supposed to say, how successful can a sequel be?
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you don't talk about the hearts, if you don't talk about, because once again, the
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, it's fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm saying, I feel like the movie is going to be sad, regardless, movies will be sad, regardless.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, but no, okay, it's a point I'm making.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, the night, the night is reformed, Michael Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, not, not only did you have the Super Bowl, but you have the Oprah interview.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You have
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[SPEAKER_03]: dangerous.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You have history.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You have the joint challenge allegations.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You have Lisa Marie.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You have kids.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot of things.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Debbie Roe.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You have a lot of things going for you in the 90s.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And here's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you make a second movie, then we're in the 90s.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, you don't even address any more allegations about that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's going to be, that's going to create more backlash than this one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you can't just sit there and say, well, we can't use it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They can't use it now and get the bad word about it still going around.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm talking to random people at my job or even at my door school who still got this misinterpretation of what the reason why they're talking about these allegations in this movie because of the crap that they're reading from unreliable sources.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We mentioned here on this channel doing the research and talking about it, but the effect of the matter is, they don't.
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[SPEAKER_06]: They don't.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They don't really.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They don't operate.
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[SPEAKER_06]: People don't listen.
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[SPEAKER_06]: If social media has told me nothing else, folks are not doing no deep digging.
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[SPEAKER_06]: If you got to do any read and pass a headline, honestly, if you can't read a headline.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You're not.
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[SPEAKER_06]: They're not doing it.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's much easier to go with the sensationalized version of anything.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Not just this.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Then to actually, it's details.
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[SPEAKER_06]: In fact, are not sexy to people.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not.
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[SPEAKER_06]: They don't care about that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You can go ahead and debunk stuff all day.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But you could be talking to a wall because they in an echo chamber telling them the opposite of what you're saying to them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, if you don't, they have to find a way to address this, you may have to even change out all names of participants and even change out the scenario.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And here's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, you have to create a blooper to this one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody said, so if you do that, it's like, now you're worried about pissing off the fanbase because now you've got to make up something to explain something.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And now, it's like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: What game would do you take because it's going to be a game where if you're going to invest this amount of money into it, you got to get what it gets you money back.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, because they're not going to want to wait until we get to like the trial for them to be like, oh, well, here's, you know, the, a case, the case that we all witnessed when we know we got to this, I don't see we got to this case because of everything that was
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[SPEAKER_03]: so it that that's the that's the hard thing to do and I don't think people truly understand it and I yes I want to sequel but it got to be done right it's the sequel and and you have to you got to you can't make everybody happy but you got to at least
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[SPEAKER_03]: attempt to do something.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you do another C, if you do a sequel in the 90s and don't talk about no allegations at all It's not gonna end up good for Mike and the fans are gonna go always go see it But it's not going to it's not going to celebrate with critics.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not going to sit right with some to general public And people's gonna be like and also they are fans have like they want this in there to show his innocence
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's like you you really got a tough job to do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You really got a tough job to do and the Lord's got to go with a far or two calm to see what they can do and what they can't do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What you got to address something and that's why I was saying so then went with them with the CEOs looking at it like hold on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You could green that a sequel right now with six
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[SPEAKER_03]: given us a given them the director's cut.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Possibly.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then just make the money off of that and be like, like, just give them the scenes in a director's cut and be like, all right, and this is it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then this was what you guys do, because you got to make the fans have me somehow.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm just like, it can be like a zig-slide thing in a way, like, hit this is you're all justlessly y'all can y'all can take it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's fine because there's nothing, it's listen, there's no more after this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And anyway, I was just like, you know, Leonard Finch is not like, no, we gave you all that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What a brother's gave you all that, this is it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And no more after this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I can really see this, I don't want to count you for the hatch, but they got, you can pre-order the blue ray right now on Amazon.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Without even being a release date, or even know what's on that blue ray.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And for some reason, the way, you know, I'm not the smartest of business, but that's him a little odd to me.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I listen, the way that's moving, I see why Janet and Randy and him is just like, bro, I ain't messing with you all, y'all doing whatever y'all can to milk money out of this system.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, literally, literally.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I wish that we do more than money out of them, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, but as a fact, the frustration, but I can really see.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Don't say and listen, here is a three hour director's cut of Michael, it will release on digital, will release it on blue ray, and this is going to be, and whatever comes down the future, maybe it prints Michael, gets to estate in the future, and Janet, and they will do something else, maybe.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But call spike.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I can legit see them saying here here's a director's cut of all the season show missed because what is going to be profitable of what we can use or we can't use.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This made us be the way to go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying it's not going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying you got to think you got to really really out there a little bit in business.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to say now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got at least four performances now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to see, I know they got a least four.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I would say, but you can make, or you can make like this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Some of the things you can do with the function they had, I'd say, we see it work for Zack Snyder.
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[SPEAKER_03]: To the point where I say, I read the pay on my money for you to fill my these things and have a director's cut come out, or come out on blue right and make our money back from that, opposed to going through promotion and marketing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and theater cuts and making a whole other movie with more major dollars of resources that may not sell and may not get over well with anybody that's just like the business but now the last thing I want to get into because you know we did talk about the sequel thing I like that uh... the unfortunate comparisons now people go to prepare this movie to the American dream
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's unfortunate.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh no, we got to, we got to the back up just a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Since we talked about the estate, we really get into fully things that we don't like.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I just had one thing I got to say.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You got to hurry and not going over any of that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Shut up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Again, I don't know these people personally, so I don't know they personal feelings.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But if the way job-breaker and certain self-indist movie is in the indication of the way that this estate is being run I see why you are just like, bro fuck what y'all doing over here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I get things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I was going to mention that too But then when he moved on, I was just like, I'm just gonna get it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's actually part of them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's definitely something that someone would say this man
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because not her husband's been around for that much, and even if he was, why do we need to see him in every frame?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he got my house to tell the plan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What does my brother?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You mean to tell me every time people are done with Bill Burr, you stand right there?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Every time?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, I bet she glad she wasn't a bit scared to get it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's a problem.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Because again, you mean to tell me that it makes perfect sense to y'all not to introduce his fucking brothers.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But she went and got
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[SPEAKER_06]: A top tier actor to play this man and be in several scenes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Several.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But I don't know who Jack is.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like what, what are we doing?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Seriously, yeah, you're right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Also in real life, that's not even his manager.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the thing though.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't think that's his manager.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not even the manager.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's just the lawyer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's the lawyer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Aggie goes fine.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The head is major in the movie.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It ain't saying his name.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, uh, the, the, the boy I got in the beginning, who's talking to, that's his manager.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, but everything, I'm seeing like, you were rather, like, put a, put a, put a, put a, the village in situation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When you beat up with your manager, not your lawyer.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I can see you being there with your lawyer and your manager.
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[SPEAKER_06]: because there could be legal ramifications to this, but you'll took the time to give us multiple scenes we'll have and didn't introduce actual people who had an impact, who he set out his own mouth had an impact on his career.
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[SPEAKER_06]: This is why, like, in the beginning with the Shalamarzo, it's called a Shalboat, the Bloods and the Crimson, and so how he wanted to do unity.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But this man has told us multiple times, don't give me the credit.
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[SPEAKER_06]: for learning somebody's moves.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was inspired by Jackie Wilson and James Brown and then I was taught the newer stuff by Jeffrey Daniels.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Then you have y'all making a point to dress everybody up like their characters in the beat it video so we know that this was happening and you don't acknowledge that the person who's in the white next to him is the actual fucking choreographer.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like that that's who that is in the beat it video.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He's a choreographer So you're don't acknowledge him.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You don't give him a name and I know everybody don't know who all the rage But she does have a name.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Why the fuck was she this?
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's the real-a-girlfriend in the in the In the charter Yeah, yeah, if you look at the credits.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is that if you say bill a girlfriend and this is daughter?
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[SPEAKER_06]: you couldn't even take the time to assign this lady's actual name to the character you gave your daughter or the fact that when he was in a studio with Quincy Jones if I'm not mistaken, the person sitting next to him is Bruce Sweden, an actual person but somehow I know who John Brink is
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like, kind of fuck on.
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[SPEAKER_06]: There was, there was stuff in this movie that was just like, you're a fingerprinter all over this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I don't know if y'all been seeing this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of people are like looking back and stuff over the time of my, like, so apparently, you know, might fight him and all that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Apparently, like, they kind of, they kind of, you know, they've been doing conspiracy theories.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, oh, how come all of a sudden,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, he's put in charge of MJ's estate about seven days before he dies and now he's always other be as going on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He sounds kind of all of the sudden and he does all this extra stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then I was like, what's the point of pill even being there for six?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I have to ask this question, why did the estate not go to family at all?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I can't listen.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Maybe he was not sure what they would do at that point in his life.
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[SPEAKER_06]: What they would do with his estate, but they would have met in an executor anyway.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I can't fuss and be like, you left
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[SPEAKER_06]: You know y'all you left it your dad cuz he ain't know what he was doing for real like Business in the hat no business acumen and then say well why would you why would you have this lawyer of that you?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I guess at some point trusted Around to do the estate work now.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He could have got somebody else.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I will say that Yeah, I'm gonna be my Some family some Lord like something in the middle of your life.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He almost 100% of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's why it's like so
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can only go by stuff that I've read for Mike in the later years, she was rough.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm not talking about her.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm talking about with the family.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And...
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[SPEAKER_06]: Does he have an appointment?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: When it came to...
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[SPEAKER_03]: There were...
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[SPEAKER_03]: He used the term Vultures.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so...
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[SPEAKER_03]: Especially with Joseph.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I do know that there were You made a man who was out here selling like a long.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, God.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, why before he died Dead there were things that I'd fucking sell to he didn't want them to Can control other money because it basically they're gonna blow it on On themselves so he was very strict about that now boss again, you know My position situation, you know, he could trust because once again if you have if you have rated bigger than his gate as if for his money
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's like, you know, who could you control all this microtexive money and all this other thing you've got to be on?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Katherine?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I think she's older and she's she's an older woman who as far as if they made it seem like never really had a job or anything.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So what does she go into?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, she can oversee and make decisions.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But again, she would need a lawyer and somebody to help her execute all of that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Then it was married off and not here, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, he's about like, like, like, oh, six or seven.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like, when he was...
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was... Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, she was... Well, Jameen the free when he died.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It took, it took 2009, right?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, okay.
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[SPEAKER_06]: No, she got she got married and had her kid after that, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So, but she all live her home life.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was worried about James.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But that's what I'm saying.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like, he's not going to give us a heart to manage.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So, I'm like, I could see being like, especially one, we got to remember who knows where his mind might have been when he thought that his time was getting closer.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's not like this man expected to die.
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[SPEAKER_06]: at 50, you know, I know body is like, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's been a good ride, like nobody, he might not have been in that state of mind later down the road.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, like, you know what, maybe I should leave it and even ain't gonna troll my mom in the kids, but I'm wondering likely he's not probably thinking he's gonna outlive his mother.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So why would he leave his estate on him?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's a good point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You put her in this way of him to take care of his kids.
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[SPEAKER_06]: What happened?
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[SPEAKER_02]: He did put her in his wallet to take care of his kids if he died.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, my mother is the person who, if something happens to me suddenly, I need you to take care of my, uh, I need you to take care of my kids.
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[SPEAKER_06]: If something happens to the both of us, the kids going to my mom.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But that's like in case of an emergency, that's a living will kind of a thing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to die tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I have no time to line up my estate.
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[SPEAKER_06]: His everything was a mess at that time.
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[SPEAKER_06]: According to that movie that they made when he was doing it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to say also, I wish they would have talked about more of how he had bought up a lot of stuff and people weren't really liking him behind the scene.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Could be a sign of a lot kind of.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's getting more eyes on him, negative eyes on him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because he was paranoid.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, he was, but you know, but you know, who don't buy into conspiracies and paranoid delusions?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Not black people.
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[SPEAKER_06]: No.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I'm not saying it as like a just a general blanket statement.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We'd be thinking like, it's some wild, you gotta watch it back, you don't know who, but everybody who, people who don't grow up in a survival mindset are not thinking like that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Let's put it that way.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's a good way to put it.
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[SPEAKER_06]: If you're not growing up thinking that you got to make sure you guard everything you got because you could lose it at any moment because you are a black man, that's not, non black people, I'm moving through like like, non minorities, not moving through like like,
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[SPEAKER_06]: So no, it's not at the top of the brain of the person who inserted themselves into this movie To be like, oh, maybe I should tell the people that Mike bought this catalog and that catalog and purchased this And he was he was concerned for his safety or that people might be trying to plot.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He's not one.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That's not going.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That's not making any movie
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, man, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like on beat beat and it all.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's not food, I mean, but it sounds like the estate is the one who has the approval of it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and that and day yeah, job breakers definitely took, I knew there were rare flags when the teaser came out and he was in the teaser.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was in the teaser.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then he might have seen reactors say, he was all over that teaser too.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, why did you show him in his teaser?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, but you know, and I'm like, yeah, they used to do E.S.
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[SPEAKER_03]: scenes with them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of things, but we can't mention this to brothers, like, my God.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you know what, it makes me think, because now that's what people see the movie, and I can't help but think.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is my podcast, we can talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What was it that pissed Jan and Paris off right and had to be something?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I I got the sense that they just don't like the estate in general.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like the way it's being run in general So they don't want to be a part of it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you think they will parents say like it's the inequities do you think that job right could be wonderful?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, put the, if Johnny had five apples and you put the pieces together, I don't, this made it all over the movie he runs the estate, I don't fuck with the estate.
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[SPEAKER_06]: These two things, one of these things is like the other.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So if I don't fuck with you and you all over this movie, you're inserting yourself in spaces where you probably didn't need to be where other things could have been.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Because beyond when he met him, and he was just like, I need you to fire my father.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And how would you like me to do that?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Quickly.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That had been a cool little cameo you in here, who was to say, he comes and gets a villain in the hospital and it's not from Channing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if that's what really happened, but.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And just hypothetically, like who is that to say that we don't see him for the rest of the movie and now we got Randy on stage at the victory tour in the it's something like there's there are places where it's like you
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[SPEAKER_06]: The person who is giving them the coaching as an artist would have been Suzanne Depass.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You could have been making the plans with your manager about your creative direction.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, with your lawyer about your creative direction and what you want to do and how you want to be mysterious and blah blah blah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But the person you what more than likely be talking about that with is your manager.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you're right.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm coming to you to be like, so what are the legal ratifications and all these things I need to do?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not sitting here talking about my hopes and dreams, would you?
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[SPEAKER_06]: if you he already said I don't need a family I got a family I need you to represent me yeah cool so read over these contracts draft up and letter fire my daddy and I'm going to talk to my manager and my trusted confidence about what I want to do creatively in the next few years so I know their whole series badass I ain't gonna hold you on that one
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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, when he was in the lawyer's office.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Here we are, that was like, oh, this business right right here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let it look.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I ain't going to go fup of me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I know we talked some serious, but I was like, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: No, you're so mad right, you're not wrong.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And Antoine Fuqua, really like shooting behind the sunglasses.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That was a shot he was enjoying.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And then he was like, why was he zooming in on the eye from the behind the sunglasses so much?
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[SPEAKER_03]: He liked that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So that was a random aside, but I wouldn't be surprised.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not gonna assume we never know.
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[SPEAKER_06]: They could have had their own personal interactions and they'd been like fuckable, okay?
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[SPEAKER_06]: The long way, but who knows?
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[SPEAKER_06]: We won't know unless one of them decides to talk any time going to.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I don't say they don't have to.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's why I'm hesitant on the sequel because once again, if the sequel does not meet with the state's bottom line,
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[SPEAKER_03]: who's the charge of it and it's not going to do that they don't see a profit from it they're not going to do it and if Janet and Paris and all of them and Randy want to get control back of the estate
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I guess they can, you know, treat them by the way we speak because right now, if the argument is true even though they came out and said that it was it, but I can believe Janet, you may have some words.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I could too.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And if, if, if, if, would you may say like, just ride this train, it just shows.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's, again, that I just, I, I want, I want ride that, I want this ride this.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Let me tell you who I'm not leaving my say to somebody who made a diss track about me.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not leaving my state to you, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You never did a lie, Nick.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I put that one there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You never did a lie, sir.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're not.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm just, it, because it's like, it does feel like very, it can, I can see how it would have felt exploitative to be like, all right, well, I don't really want to leave all this power to you, because who knows what she's going to do with it?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not saying that we will be having a pet Houston situation where she's slapping Whitney Houston's
56:59.092 --> 57:11.865
[SPEAKER_06]: name and likeness on anything she can get her hands on, but I don't know if they would have managed it the way that he likes, and they would have needed assistance.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Uh-huh.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So listen, I get it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just, I do think that there was a lot of John Brinkham.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm all bad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll skip that before I do go into the unfortunate comparisons.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Was it anything else that that there was a light order?
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[SPEAKER_03]: We got different from drama.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I guess I could miss a lot.
57:41.799 --> 57:42.681
[SPEAKER_03]: I could have missed a lot.
57:46.267 --> 57:47.989
[SPEAKER_06]: I just want to go hit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I think we got money.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So people are naturally going to do unfortunate comparisons.
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[SPEAKER_03]: to this in the American Dream.
57:56.378 --> 57:59.141
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not fair because this is a movie.
57:59.161 --> 58:03.246
[SPEAKER_03]: Mercury Dream was a mini-series, which means they have more times of first things out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Also, American Dream was about the Jackson family.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is about Michael Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, there's, there's that as well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, but unfortunately, there are comparisons that people want to make.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And one of the biggest ones I see was Joe Jackson.
58:21.340 --> 58:25.144
[SPEAKER_03]: Long so Jake was Joe Jackson, against COVID-19.
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[SPEAKER_06]: They gave it man a lot of credit.
58:27.687 --> 58:30.610
[SPEAKER_03]: It covered the Minkles Joe Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I've seen a lot of people say, you know, like, well, this wasn't a movie.
58:35.415 --> 58:40.861
[SPEAKER_03]: And I wanted to see the part where you know that the town, the Superpool, it's like, you're not going to get the same.
58:41.282 --> 58:45.586
[SPEAKER_06]: But here's the thing that I feel like that's what it was, though.
58:45.606 --> 58:48.550
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like people just want to see a better, right?
58:48.570 --> 58:50.672
[SPEAKER_06]: No, no, no.
58:51.175 --> 59:06.458
[SPEAKER_06]: key moments that clearly were either direct rips or a slightly tweaked variation of what happened in the many series.
59:06.999 --> 59:19.377
[SPEAKER_06]: The performance, where they didn't ever can say goodbye, the him floating in the pool trying to come up with ideas and talking about how he wants to assert his independence and how where he's going to go.
59:19.947 --> 59:33.093
[SPEAKER_06]: the scene where instead of him coming upstairs yelling, who on top of a pole, he's pissed because he got a letter and he need to go in there and talk to Katherine and she's supposed to be set in her street.
59:34.055 --> 59:38.985
[SPEAKER_06]: All the shit is the, it is the bones of the many series.
59:40.096 --> 59:57.313
[SPEAKER_06]: her having these conversations with Michael trying to reassure him about how he is he's great and she knew he was special and all of these things are very dirt like there's no way you can make it believe that oh no we didn't get any inspiration from Jackson the American.
59:57.373 --> 59:59.154
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh I'm not saying that.
59:59.174 --> 01:00:05.300
[SPEAKER_06]: But there are the scene where he's walking him to the press conference and he's just like, now how old are you?
01:00:05.801 --> 01:00:06.461
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh I'm 10.
01:00:06.722 --> 01:00:08.263
[SPEAKER_06]: Well it's much tutor when you're
01:00:10.184 --> 01:00:14.630
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, there is clear connections between.
01:00:14.650 --> 01:00:25.945
[SPEAKER_06]: So I'm like, it's unfair, yes, you did, you set them up to be compared to the cast and the mood, like the actual plot of a Jackson's American Dream.
01:00:26.446 --> 01:00:36.839
[SPEAKER_06]: Because if you fleshed out more time to flesh it out or not, if you asked me which scene I'm taking when cast some scenes up to Joe, I'm gonna take go to bed, Joseph, every time and twice on Sunday.
01:00:36.859 --> 01:00:37.841
[SPEAKER_03]: I agree with you.
01:00:38.261 --> 01:00:38.942
[SPEAKER_03]: I agree with you.
01:00:40.323 --> 01:00:45.650
[SPEAKER_03]: So then the me excellent kind of a question called the mingle or Lawrence of Jiggles.
01:00:49.395 --> 01:00:51.998
[SPEAKER_02]: Fine, I feel like they both brought different things to the table.
01:00:53.500 --> 01:01:06.036
[SPEAKER_02]: I personally like the way coming to me to disappear into the room, more than what I say with Jiggles, what I say with Jiggles, more terrifying as I'm no not a sense and I'm doing I'm doing.
01:01:06.056 --> 01:01:08.980
[SPEAKER_02]: So they are I can't compare those two.
01:01:09.196 --> 01:01:29.297
[SPEAKER_06]: Other stuff is easy to compare, but no, that's like the hardest comparison is this, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:36.687
[SPEAKER_06]: he can sing cool at one moment and in one of the time he'll turn, you don't know if he's about to waddle fuck out.
01:01:37.067 --> 01:01:50.603
[SPEAKER_06]: Coleman Domingo in this movie, I imagine him being a super villain, the entire time that they were from the time, from the still mill, all the way up until Mike was going.
01:01:50.863 --> 01:01:54.087
[SPEAKER_06]: So I'm like, I do think that he,
01:01:55.096 --> 01:02:00.083
[SPEAKER_06]: He played the role that was given to him very well and I do think he disappeared instead of the role.
01:02:01.264 --> 01:02:03.988
[SPEAKER_06]: But like you said, they had more time to build the character.
01:02:04.028 --> 01:02:18.488
[SPEAKER_06]: So Lawrence Hill and Jacob has the, I guess unfair advantage of having time to like give us, give us a room to like grow with you.
01:02:19.249 --> 01:02:21.512
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, you, you also forgot another portrayal.
01:02:22.454 --> 01:02:24.276
[SPEAKER_06]: How, why are you eight though, Richard Lawson?
01:02:27.378 --> 01:02:32.524
[SPEAKER_02]: Randy, I'm gonna need you to go get it, I'm gonna need you to leave.
01:02:32.584 --> 01:02:33.104
[SPEAKER_02]: You come back.
01:02:33.825 --> 01:02:36.068
[SPEAKER_02]: Come on.
01:02:36.088 --> 01:02:40.293
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm joking, but... Oh, the reason why you got this goddamn job.
01:02:42.135 --> 01:02:43.036
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's do walk away from me?
01:02:43.536 --> 01:02:44.698
[SPEAKER_06]: The bird.
01:02:44.718 --> 01:02:46.139
[SPEAKER_06]: It pulled up at his PC cruiser.
01:02:46.600 --> 01:02:49.023
[SPEAKER_06]: But...
01:02:49.703 --> 01:02:51.605
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
01:02:51.786 --> 01:02:54.769
[SPEAKER_06]: Like between the two of them,
01:02:55.323 --> 01:03:03.078
[SPEAKER_06]: choice is easily because I do think they both did well in the role, just in two different ways.
01:03:03.098 --> 01:03:17.365
[SPEAKER_03]: I do think that, um, when I look at it, I grew to as hard as hard to make a choice with them, but the thing is, I think they was like, we got to,
01:03:17.969 --> 01:03:23.360
[SPEAKER_03]: complete the Villanarco joke, Jackson, because he's a more so good, he's a kid's the Villanarco, right?
01:03:23.601 --> 01:03:30.696
[SPEAKER_03]: More so jacos, you see, was, you know, a guy who was for a taste of a kid, like he had his his moments.
01:03:30.929 --> 01:03:35.634
[SPEAKER_03]: then you could tell with the stress came from and that he was very terrified in the early years.
01:03:36.014 --> 01:03:39.017
[SPEAKER_03]: But he became after Golden Big Joseph.
01:03:39.398 --> 01:03:45.123
[SPEAKER_03]: It made my- if you actually peep in that movie after the Golden Big Joseph, she kind of like suck his soul.
01:03:45.704 --> 01:03:49.908
[SPEAKER_03]: Because anything after that, he was very- He got soft.
01:03:49.928 --> 01:03:50.509
[SPEAKER_03]: Soft with it.
01:03:50.889 --> 01:03:55.654
[SPEAKER_03]: Even at the end, when he was just like, you know, as you told his return, so I never thought to see.
01:03:55.634 --> 01:03:56.577
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, what's the gift?
01:03:56.979 --> 01:03:59.227
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, uh, but I was the one who pissed me off.
01:03:59.247 --> 01:04:04.125
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't have to talk to my mates at Dallas like he was really begging you know, saying
01:04:05.877 --> 01:04:06.458
[SPEAKER_03]: little dollar.
01:04:06.778 --> 01:04:13.827
[SPEAKER_03]: This thing, uh, COVID-19 ago, he was just, he was just like, my money back in the sea.
01:04:14.527 --> 01:04:14.868
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
01:04:15.409 --> 01:04:16.910
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, the Lord.
01:04:16.930 --> 01:04:18.072
[SPEAKER_03]: I was God, Lee.
01:04:18.492 --> 01:04:22.517
[SPEAKER_03]: And he was like, yo, and I told you what to think.
01:04:23.038 --> 01:04:23.538
[SPEAKER_06]: Exactly.
01:04:23.659 --> 01:04:26.462
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, it's like, that was the most, 20, huh?
01:04:28.164 --> 01:04:30.267
[SPEAKER_02]: That part was just going to, because I don't know if you heard about the clip.
01:04:30.307 --> 01:04:33.150
[SPEAKER_02]: So Michael, when he's talking about Joseph, he's like, on the home with the weather.
01:04:34.548 --> 01:04:36.570
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think you're in your country right at the end of that.
01:04:37.311 --> 01:04:39.634
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, every time Justin wants some money, that's what he says.
01:04:39.894 --> 01:04:40.875
[SPEAKER_02]: That's my son.
01:04:40.995 --> 01:04:42.076
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, what are you doing?
01:04:42.096 --> 01:04:43.338
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's my son.
01:04:43.538 --> 01:04:44.619
[SPEAKER_03]: You're having a good trip.
01:04:45.180 --> 01:04:45.320
[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
01:04:45.340 --> 01:04:47.722
[SPEAKER_03]: So, these are the jet audio clips.
01:04:48.163 --> 01:04:49.464
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't got anything you might have to say.
01:04:49.524 --> 01:04:49.825
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
01:04:49.845 --> 01:04:55.170
[SPEAKER_03]: These are some of the, I hate when they go to this personal shit, but there's the audio clips going right.
01:04:55.190 --> 01:04:56.872
[SPEAKER_03]: He's talking, I don't know who I'm talking to.
01:04:57.513 --> 01:05:00.336
[SPEAKER_03]: He said, you know, I just got a call from Joseph.
01:05:00.603 --> 01:05:07.229
[SPEAKER_03]: And then, he was just like, every time you're kind of fucking like, that's my son like, what do you want, Joseph?
01:05:07.249 --> 01:05:08.150
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't even want to stop it.
01:05:08.490 --> 01:05:10.072
[SPEAKER_03]: He asked me for half a million dollars.
01:05:10.272 --> 01:05:12.214
[SPEAKER_06]: Half a million dollars.
01:05:12.234 --> 01:05:14.416
[SPEAKER_03]: And then, I was just like, why did you tell me that?
01:05:14.436 --> 01:05:16.778
[SPEAKER_03]: He told me I said, well, you're my son, you know?
01:05:16.958 --> 01:05:21.042
[SPEAKER_03]: It's funny because you're here by doing like, doing the Michael doing the Joseph work.
01:05:21.483 --> 01:05:25.386
[SPEAKER_03]: It's, if I've said, dude, if I damn it, it's like no chance of yours it's more something.
01:05:25.406 --> 01:05:26.507
[SPEAKER_03]: I was just like, you know what I mean?
01:05:26.528 --> 01:05:28.129
[SPEAKER_03]: He said, he can eat my shorts.
01:05:29.510 --> 01:05:57.728
[SPEAKER_03]: A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O-A-O
01:05:58.467 --> 01:06:02.377
[SPEAKER_03]: Can't we look at this like so we're gonna perform we back on stage.
01:06:02.637 --> 01:06:07.750
[SPEAKER_06]: I need to know when I can start writing checks again Like you see you know, I get the main.
01:06:07.770 --> 01:06:11.599
[SPEAKER_03]: I go be like Well, my son need let's get back on my stage
01:06:12.018 --> 01:06:16.885
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, we didn't see Lars, I'm not saying that makes it better, I'm saying.
01:06:16.905 --> 01:06:17.125
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:06:17.145 --> 01:06:22.632
[SPEAKER_03]: Because Lars said he got softer, and he was like, Producty, and then they were doing the victory tour.
01:06:23.193 --> 01:06:27.339
[SPEAKER_03]: Coach, it's in the back with Don K. Just like listen.
01:06:27.359 --> 01:06:28.380
[SPEAKER_03]: Money, money.
01:06:28.740 --> 01:06:29.301
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:06:29.321 --> 01:06:31.364
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:06:31.384 --> 01:06:32.445
[SPEAKER_03]: The fight to see her.
01:06:32.485 --> 01:06:34.108
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm saying, but do you got Michael?
01:06:34.468 --> 01:06:35.950
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Michael.
01:06:36.807 --> 01:06:39.191
[SPEAKER_03]: And he called me and said, like, look, you're gonna talk to brothers.
01:06:39.972 --> 01:06:41.575
[SPEAKER_03]: And it walks off like that, isn't it?
01:06:41.815 --> 01:06:43.678
[SPEAKER_03]: That, that's why he was doing some of it.
01:06:43.718 --> 01:06:53.714
[SPEAKER_06]: But he's the thing, that feels more like what might have happened, because I feel like how else would you get Michael to do this, unless you were strong arm in him and doing this shit.
01:06:53.854 --> 01:06:56.519
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, I've got the most selling this album.
01:06:57.140 --> 01:07:03.490
[SPEAKER_06]: And when people had to still go to the record store, and buy an album, I
01:07:03.470 --> 01:07:07.355
[SPEAKER_06]: So 40 million of them thanks.
01:07:07.375 --> 01:07:22.994
[SPEAKER_02]: So what you're not already the god fuck you You had he had to be strong on him and to do it Should have been the same we're The same were we're Joe's talking to Kate Kathy.
01:07:23.014 --> 01:07:23.975
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean tapping.
01:07:24.455 --> 01:07:25.056
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's like
01:07:25.762 --> 01:07:28.225
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't, I need, they don't take everything from us.
01:07:28.706 --> 01:07:32.290
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, come visit her and realize she's the one that convinced him to do the tours.
01:07:32.310 --> 01:07:41.861
[SPEAKER_02]: So I thought, when he's telling her that she's going to just bite the bullet and just convince Michael to do the tour, ultimately do the tour, but then we didn't get that scene.
01:07:43.163 --> 01:07:47.848
[SPEAKER_06]: And so I was going through and you know, all everything's been coming back up.
01:07:48.469 --> 01:07:50.031
[SPEAKER_06]: They had talking to, um,
01:07:50.787 --> 01:07:55.149
[SPEAKER_06]: Dremaine's ex, the one who didn't get her credit for doing Jackson the American dream.
01:07:55.189 --> 01:07:58.485
[SPEAKER_06]: And she was saying that
01:07:58.988 --> 01:08:28.455
[SPEAKER_06]: I think that some, you include it was like, well, maybe this is more closer to how cats and really is in real life, maybe she was more soft-spoken and submissive, and according to her, when they screened the movie, she was into it with that scene with you and Laya and you're a cheat, and I don't want you, I don't want you, I don't want she was into that scene, because she cuts his ass to fuck out, what she found out he
01:08:28.823 --> 01:08:41.718
[SPEAKER_06]: And Nate was going and writing up Grease up faces go beat the lady ass I'm more convinced that we Angela Bassett was giving us a bit more real Katherine.
01:08:41.899 --> 01:08:58.138
[SPEAKER_03]: I agree, but she was hoping a Newton Joe Jackson cuz I'm telling this right now I'm gonna tell you how to tell this right now Like I said she took it so after she said go to bed He's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he
01:08:58.456 --> 01:08:59.878
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, call with the big one of the head.
01:08:59.998 --> 01:09:00.759
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll tell you right now.
01:09:01.079 --> 01:09:02.781
[SPEAKER_03]: His character, please forgive me.
01:09:02.861 --> 01:09:03.902
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying what I'm trying to say here.
01:09:05.644 --> 01:09:07.566
[SPEAKER_03]: The way it's about to attack Joe Jackson.
01:09:08.487 --> 01:09:09.409
[SPEAKER_03]: Call the real fight back.
01:09:09.909 --> 01:09:11.951
[SPEAKER_06]: He probably would.
01:09:12.032 --> 01:09:15.495
[SPEAKER_03]: They have said, yeah, like, like, that's what I'm getting from people.
01:09:15.515 --> 01:09:18.419
[SPEAKER_03]: I said the point, like, whoa, oh, I'm wrong.
01:09:18.439 --> 01:09:21.342
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm the devil, but you can put your hands on me, like, like, like, that's the, oh, God.
01:09:21.362 --> 01:09:25.627
[SPEAKER_03]: That's, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's why I was getting from him, right?
01:09:25.887 --> 01:09:26.488
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's just like,
01:09:27.025 --> 01:09:53.488
[SPEAKER_03]: if you take the beginning part of loroso jake mo show Jackson and then take life they didn't take the coming to make mo show Jackson then you have you have the real probably the closest thing you don't get to the real so next i don't know what this is going but you know angler bass in here why we this is not this is unmatched it's unmatched night unmatched
01:09:54.548 --> 01:10:00.560
[SPEAKER_03]: It's different from her and a more guilty side.
01:10:00.580 --> 01:10:02.003
[SPEAKER_06]: We tried to bring like the gentler.
01:10:02.544 --> 01:10:04.007
[SPEAKER_03]: She was the softest side of the series.
01:10:04.027 --> 01:10:06.953
[SPEAKER_03]: When Angela Bassett bought, I mean this to the reporters.
01:10:07.053 --> 01:10:10.139
[SPEAKER_03]: And like you further build up like I'm tired of your shit.
01:10:11.201 --> 01:10:12.805
[SPEAKER_03]: But she was tired of your shit in part one.
01:10:12.885 --> 01:10:13.366
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
01:10:13.827 --> 01:10:15.610
[SPEAKER_06]: She was over it back in Gary.
01:10:15.831 --> 01:10:16.472
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
01:10:17.498 --> 01:10:42.257
[SPEAKER_06]: And then she told him by the self much sooner, they said me having all of them kids was got what got us out here, if you want to be You'd be fair and you long said the same thing she said you ought to be thinking of that was that was that was down the line That was it to go to dread jokes of point Okay, yeah when they got to California she said oh, this is all nice thing I palm trees and shit, but baby Um, me and this coach that was working over time was what was got us here.
01:10:43.038 --> 01:10:44.721
[SPEAKER_06]: Don't get a twisted right
01:10:45.916 --> 01:10:58.727
[SPEAKER_06]: So, I'm like, okay, but still, I think that there was, she had an impossible task to,
01:10:59.433 --> 01:11:02.076
[SPEAKER_06]: outdo the performance that Angela Bassett did.
01:11:02.696 --> 01:11:05.159
[SPEAKER_06]: There's so many quotables from that movie from her.
01:11:05.940 --> 01:11:07.762
[SPEAKER_06]: And moments from that movie from her.
01:11:08.643 --> 01:11:17.753
[SPEAKER_06]: And just the way she portrayed her all the way from when they met up until the very end of the movie, there are the many series.
01:11:17.953 --> 01:11:28.444
[SPEAKER_06]: There was those way too much time for her to develop castor and as a character on the screen that
01:11:31.208 --> 01:11:34.932
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's a no-brainer that definitely changes the best thing.
01:11:35.833 --> 01:11:47.524
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, maybe if me alone, we got more scenes where she had to say something other than Joseph or Michael, 20 times, I felt like it would be different.
01:11:47.944 --> 01:11:55.352
[SPEAKER_02]: Michael, I haven't, half of her toys, half of her dialogue is Michael for Joseph, that's it.
01:11:55.572 --> 01:11:56.813
[SPEAKER_02]: So, sorry.
01:11:56.833 --> 01:11:59.916
[SPEAKER_06]: Or just looking at him like, I can't believe you said that shit.
01:12:00.554 --> 01:12:01.576
[SPEAKER_06]: or just looking for out.
01:12:02.357 --> 01:12:02.577
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
01:12:04.380 --> 01:12:05.261
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:12:05.281 --> 01:12:05.381
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:12:05.401 --> 01:12:05.462
[SPEAKER_02]: OK.
01:12:05.682 --> 01:12:08.666
[SPEAKER_02]: They did try to give her a little bit of prostitutes to disappear in the room.
01:12:09.628 --> 01:12:14.515
[SPEAKER_02]: She's going to disappear in the room and also be timid as a timid captain.
01:12:14.536 --> 01:12:17.240
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, yeah, to be one of the other.
01:12:17.260 --> 01:12:17.480
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
01:12:17.500 --> 01:12:19.423
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I do, like, I think that
01:12:20.146 --> 01:12:22.790
[SPEAKER_06]: All right, saying they're okay, by launch, I'm not saying that.
01:12:23.230 --> 01:12:36.610
[SPEAKER_06]: But I do think that maybe I'll lean a bit more into looks-wise, like how she looks like her back in the 70s in the 80s, for more of a portrayal.
01:12:37.691 --> 01:12:43.039
[SPEAKER_06]: Then it was just like, we need to go find somebody who'll be able to capture what we got from Angela.
01:12:43.300 --> 01:12:44.922
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly, yeah, they're no comparison.
01:12:45.443 --> 01:12:47.065
[SPEAKER_03]: To me, this was a little bit more harder.
01:12:47.737 --> 01:12:48.518
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
01:12:48.538 --> 01:12:52.023
[SPEAKER_03]: And this is Jason Weaver in Julia de Vado.
01:12:54.427 --> 01:12:56.650
[SPEAKER_03]: Jason Weaver, no good.
01:12:56.670 --> 01:12:56.990
[SPEAKER_03]: Listen.
01:12:57.311 --> 01:12:59.854
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not gonna say no question, but I'm still also gonna say to you.
01:12:59.914 --> 01:13:01.837
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm gonna just say Jason, I'm gonna say it.
01:13:02.518 --> 01:13:03.399
[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm not gonna need you.
01:13:03.419 --> 01:13:07.325
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not gonna go disrespect him and say no question, though.
01:13:07.345 --> 01:13:11.791
[SPEAKER_06]: I listen, I told you my, my qualms with this with this fire.
01:13:13.294 --> 01:13:14.976
[SPEAKER_06]: And we always complain about
01:13:16.306 --> 01:13:18.908
[SPEAKER_06]: grown-ass people playing high school and things like that.
01:13:18.928 --> 01:13:22.712
[SPEAKER_06]: I was like, and then why would you hate these 26-year-olds out here pretending to be 15?
01:13:22.772 --> 01:13:26.135
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, but I stand by.
01:13:26.155 --> 01:13:33.201
[SPEAKER_06]: It's easier to be older and play down than it is to be younger and play up.
01:13:33.701 --> 01:13:34.802
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
01:13:34.822 --> 01:13:46.212
[SPEAKER_06]: Because it's, it just, it seems, I'm not going to say unrealistic,
01:13:46.816 --> 01:13:53.732
[SPEAKER_06]: The same little boy who's singing a big boy and they live in Rome.
01:13:54.955 --> 01:14:02.091
[SPEAKER_06]: And Marlon, who is a year-old at him, is damn into the same size as Tito and Jackie.
01:14:03.033 --> 01:14:07.862
[SPEAKER_06]: And they're starting to grow up and evolve into the characters that they're going to become.
01:14:08.283 --> 01:14:09.806
[SPEAKER_06]: And he's still the same little boy.
01:14:09.866 --> 01:14:13.733
[SPEAKER_06]: He's posed to be like, what, 12, 13 and 14 or something like that.
01:14:13.793 --> 01:14:16.358
[SPEAKER_06]: What, what, what was the age, what was the end?
01:14:16.418 --> 01:14:21.548
[SPEAKER_03]: That's how I'm trying to explain to you that as I do agree, he's only Michael.
01:14:21.730 --> 01:14:28.161
[SPEAKER_03]: until like according to what they're trying to portray is like maybe the ABC album.
01:14:28.221 --> 01:14:28.782
[SPEAKER_03]: That's it.
01:14:29.443 --> 01:14:31.587
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like he's not looking through the windows, Michael.
01:14:31.627 --> 01:14:33.090
[SPEAKER_03]: He's not dancing machine, Michael.
01:14:33.450 --> 01:14:35.374
[SPEAKER_06]: And we know he's not dancing machine, Michael.
01:14:35.394 --> 01:14:36.716
[SPEAKER_06]: They was teenagers about it.
01:14:36.776 --> 01:14:39.621
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm saying from the time of...
01:14:41.086 --> 01:14:47.536
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if it's a one week, like we said, they had much more time to develop the character than the many series.
01:14:47.556 --> 01:14:50.260
[SPEAKER_06]: So it's not truly a fair comparison.
01:14:52.303 --> 01:14:59.314
[SPEAKER_06]: But I just, I still felt like I know he was small and still kind of timid.
01:15:00.876 --> 01:15:06.164
[SPEAKER_06]: But I'm like, y'all did so much to make him look like he's so much smaller and younger.
01:15:06.325 --> 01:15:07.887
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not believing that he's,
01:15:08.491 --> 01:15:09.973
[SPEAKER_06]: getting any older with them.
01:15:11.014 --> 01:15:17.522
[SPEAKER_06]: Like by the time we went from, they were small, they were singing a little and some sketchy joints.
01:15:18.383 --> 01:15:28.656
[SPEAKER_06]: By the time we got to California, he was Jason Weaver, I'm like, we went from 66 and they were performing and trying to still figure it out.
01:15:29.037 --> 01:15:35.865
[SPEAKER_06]: They get to California and he don't look like five years span for a little boy at a long time.
01:15:36.065 --> 01:15:41.971
[SPEAKER_06]: And I'm just like, it's easier to play to beat up and play down than to be down and play up.
01:15:41.991 --> 01:15:43.453
[SPEAKER_06]: And I'm not saying he didn't do good job.
01:15:43.473 --> 01:15:44.574
[SPEAKER_06]: I think he did a phenomenal job.
01:15:45.134 --> 01:15:47.537
[SPEAKER_06]: But his part was rushed.
01:15:48.238 --> 01:15:54.244
[SPEAKER_06]: So I don't think we got to see the full potential of him playing a younger Michael any more.
01:15:54.264 --> 01:16:00.150
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't only think he'd be sad, I'm not trying to say this to sound wrong or anything like that.
01:16:00.170 --> 01:16:03.253
[SPEAKER_03]: The only thing that he'd be sad is we were on is the look.
01:16:04.752 --> 01:16:31.907
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he looks like he looks more like he has more of the adorable cutie look like you put a purple hat on him and it's all of the show that's for that that said little Michael he's playing yeah and I think he has more of a more of the Mike look that Jason weaver did but I saw that Jason weaver over all this is better yeah it's interesting something's on shit so I was like you know
01:16:32.410 --> 01:16:34.114
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, because he didn't, did he think his own song?
01:16:34.154 --> 01:16:36.139
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, but I don't think he did.
01:16:36.179 --> 01:16:36.479
[SPEAKER_03]: Who's up?
01:16:36.660 --> 01:16:38.083
[SPEAKER_06]: I think that was a track.
01:16:38.384 --> 01:16:39.386
[SPEAKER_06]: I was thinking that was a track.
01:16:39.406 --> 01:16:42.614
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, when he was singing in the booth, I was like, that might be him.
01:16:43.115 --> 01:16:46.302
[SPEAKER_06]: But when he was saying who's loving you, I was like, this sounds like a recording.
01:16:46.906 --> 01:16:49.089
[SPEAKER_02]: Now all of that was the all of that was on the court.
01:16:49.409 --> 01:16:50.250
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, you don't say.
01:16:50.851 --> 01:16:58.700
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, I was wondering, and I was just like, you might make me believe that when he was in there moving, he was giving me five minutes, that could have been him.
01:16:59.200 --> 01:17:02.044
[SPEAKER_06]: But the who's loving you, I was like, this is this is the track.
01:17:02.064 --> 01:17:03.105
[SPEAKER_06]: Uh-huh.
01:17:03.125 --> 01:17:09.392
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, and it's always good to have a, you know, somebody who can act and sing.
01:17:09.512 --> 01:17:09.793
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
01:17:10.894 --> 01:17:16.120
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's one thing I wish, I don't know if it'll get into it.
01:17:17.129 --> 01:17:21.937
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm assuming that's on the, but I look at which we list what it did half and half.
01:17:21.997 --> 01:17:25.242
[SPEAKER_02]: Half of absolute jar and half of Michael.
01:17:25.983 --> 01:17:28.267
[SPEAKER_06]: Hmm.
01:17:28.287 --> 01:17:28.687
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
01:17:28.768 --> 01:17:29.809
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't mind your card.
01:17:31.432 --> 01:17:32.053
[SPEAKER_06]: Like singing.
01:17:32.554 --> 01:17:35.779
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm like, I'm not saying he wasn't actually singing.
01:17:35.799 --> 01:17:36.941
[SPEAKER_02]: Like they've missed the voices.
01:17:37.081 --> 01:17:41.027
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm saying I wouldn't like just because the jar can actually sing.
01:17:41.598 --> 01:17:45.403
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to try to, you know, because like even like the temptations movie had happened.
01:17:45.423 --> 01:17:47.967
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm saying forever happen to actual songs.
01:17:47.987 --> 01:17:51.512
[SPEAKER_02]: I just thought to make you feel more like it's in reality.
01:17:51.532 --> 01:17:55.417
[SPEAKER_03]: He had to use that book because that that is not the human nature trick.
01:17:57.580 --> 01:17:58.622
[SPEAKER_03]: That's all the human nature.
01:17:58.962 --> 01:18:01.005
[SPEAKER_03]: Is that the downside of the video torture?
01:18:01.045 --> 01:18:04.390
[SPEAKER_02]: No, that's, that's the bad one in women.
01:18:06.353 --> 01:18:10.238
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, don't let me want it.
01:18:10.555 --> 01:18:13.278
[SPEAKER_02]: It took all his life in forms and they just took it from another.
01:18:15.400 --> 01:18:16.081
[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of forms.
01:18:16.141 --> 01:18:23.128
[SPEAKER_02]: So I wish like they would actually just recreate it, the sound and just had him sing at least a lot of functions of it.
01:18:23.148 --> 01:18:24.590
[SPEAKER_02]: Then that was from Triumph to where?
01:18:24.810 --> 01:18:25.371
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, not that.
01:18:26.332 --> 01:18:32.338
[SPEAKER_02]: So I was like, yeah, I wish they probably would give him a chance to sing because he can actually sing the lyrics, because I don't mind Michael.
01:18:32.779 --> 01:18:38.925
[SPEAKER_02]: When he sang it, what I said, they just kind of like, had him sing to have Michael singing, they just mixed it with.
01:18:39.361 --> 01:18:48.150
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, we can always say that the Jackson American Dream is better than the Jackson's in Obviously obviously because they did not exist at all.
01:18:48.571 --> 01:19:09.013
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, because we didn't know who these people were When they filmed the Jackson and we didn't know Terrence Howard was going to become Terrence Howard So it's not like back then we would have known that but y'all took the time to tell us who they were even though Y'all went and got that middle-aged Randy
01:19:11.440 --> 01:19:21.873
[SPEAKER_03]: But also, I put Motown Casay, which is like the very voice and Susan, who's in the past is, we are in a voice in the American dream.
01:19:22.134 --> 01:19:35.110
[SPEAKER_03]: We know Vanessa Williams is in the past, but now when it comes to the break, let's be fair, when it comes to the very voice, Billy, I don't have enough to even compare the lyrics and Billy, that may have had three scenes in this movie.
01:19:38.094 --> 01:19:40.317
[SPEAKER_06]: Three, two and a half, for real, for real.
01:19:41.107 --> 01:19:44.093
[SPEAKER_06]: and y'all didn't really give us much to work with.
01:19:44.253 --> 01:19:45.876
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't think that he did a bad job.
01:19:47.439 --> 01:19:48.020
[SPEAKER_06]: He was there.
01:19:48.160 --> 01:19:49.924
[SPEAKER_06]: He did good enough for me to capture.
01:19:49.944 --> 01:19:50.866
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, that's very gourdy.
01:19:51.226 --> 01:19:51.667
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:19:51.687 --> 01:19:55.915
[SPEAKER_02]: But Billy D is Billy D. He's doing the audition enough.
01:19:55.935 --> 01:19:56.196
[SPEAKER_06]: No.
01:19:56.536 --> 01:19:56.817
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
01:19:57.919 --> 01:19:58.300
[SPEAKER_02]: You all right?
01:19:58.420 --> 01:19:59.101
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
01:19:59.121 --> 01:20:01.325
[SPEAKER_06]: Suzanne the pass could have just not been in this movie.
01:20:01.345 --> 01:20:03.790
[SPEAKER_06]: And I'm not saying that cause I didn't want her to be.
01:20:04.057 --> 01:20:13.910
[SPEAKER_06]: She had no impact and like there was nothing there like she didn't Did she have two full of she did she had two she had at least two full lines.
01:20:14.130 --> 01:20:23.943
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah She was at most out of twenty five and it'd be like, I'll be in touch That's not a full line.
01:20:24.204 --> 01:20:28.189
[SPEAKER_06]: It's not like we're less not let's not do this.
01:20:28.750 --> 01:20:33.456
[SPEAKER_06]: I feel like you'll play in a ladyface personally So
01:20:34.381 --> 01:20:38.587
[SPEAKER_06]: Those two, we don't even, can't even compare.
01:20:39.348 --> 01:20:39.769
[SPEAKER_03]: I understand.
01:20:40.129 --> 01:20:45.337
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, so we won't know about CatGram and, and, how can I be paid for it?
01:20:45.517 --> 01:20:46.138
[SPEAKER_03]: We won't know about it.
01:20:46.498 --> 01:20:48.261
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's so, but then, just the last one.
01:20:48.401 --> 01:20:48.822
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course.
01:20:49.643 --> 01:20:51.646
[SPEAKER_03]: Jafar or Wally.
01:20:55.531 --> 01:20:58.215
[SPEAKER_06]: I...
01:20:58.295 --> 01:20:59.497
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't have that, that was a little harder.
01:20:59.797 --> 01:21:00.618
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yes, for sure.
01:21:00.739 --> 01:21:02.481
[SPEAKER_06]: I always liked...
01:21:03.794 --> 01:21:09.760
[SPEAKER_06]: Wally Draper's portrayal of Michael before this.
01:21:11.142 --> 01:21:17.889
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, I don't just like it now, but like before this, that was, of course, the gold standard because he didn't have anybody else that really did a great job portraying him.
01:21:18.629 --> 01:21:25.757
[SPEAKER_03]: She was, he had somebody else who was... To a flat it, you didn't, you didn't, flat it was, you didn't have the 65 Michael?
01:21:26.017 --> 01:21:27.619
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, you won't make me sign out right now.
01:21:29.941 --> 01:21:30.662
[UNKNOWN]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha, flat it.
01:21:31.250 --> 01:21:34.555
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm like, besides that, he don't only have the black person who damn played him.
01:21:34.575 --> 01:21:49.635
[SPEAKER_06]: So, I, I don't know, I really, I really liked his portrayal up until now, and I'm like, but you're far just, he looks so much like him.
01:21:49.655 --> 01:21:51.017
[SPEAKER_06]: He sounds so much like him.
01:21:52.459 --> 01:21:59.569
[SPEAKER_06]: He has an unfair advantage, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, I don't know.
01:22:01.017 --> 01:22:01.778
[SPEAKER_03]: How about you, Farah?
01:22:03.200 --> 01:22:04.943
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I would have saved.
01:22:06.345 --> 01:22:10.271
[SPEAKER_02]: I like to far, only because the far has the small minerals was there and the boys.
01:22:10.651 --> 01:22:10.952
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
01:22:11.052 --> 01:22:12.634
[SPEAKER_02]: I like widely strippers.
01:22:13.235 --> 01:22:15.338
[SPEAKER_02]: But overall, I like widely strippers.
01:22:15.398 --> 01:22:19.404
[SPEAKER_02]: The team might, but when he gets like older Mike, I like to farm better.
01:22:19.564 --> 01:22:22.188
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know because before I got that team right now too.
01:22:23.149 --> 01:22:25.132
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if we got to see my team.
01:22:25.232 --> 01:22:27.476
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't see the dance machine here.
01:22:27.976 --> 01:22:28.758
[SPEAKER_02]: That name's doing.
01:22:28.858 --> 01:22:30.400
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, okay, I can see the head.
01:22:30.970 --> 01:22:38.622
[SPEAKER_06]: Like when we got introduced to him in Jackson's the American Dream when they were doing dance machine, they were planning about not having any creative control.
01:22:39.643 --> 01:22:39.783
[SPEAKER_06]: Uh-huh.
01:22:39.803 --> 01:22:54.025
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, if we had a chance, um, if somebody liked or made out of the studio, and we had a chance to get the jacks on, then maybe I would have...
01:22:54.848 --> 01:23:08.812
[SPEAKER_06]: Maybe I will feel differently, but we don't get enough teen might really to compare the two Yeah, I will say He was like Jackson's that will not stand.
01:23:09.133 --> 01:23:16.225
[SPEAKER_06]: We will not be doing that I think they did that's the one thing.
01:23:16.446 --> 01:23:20.012
[SPEAKER_06]: I think they might have did right between these two is
01:23:21.072 --> 01:23:31.905
[SPEAKER_06]: They're just like on the cusp of where, like Juliano is just on the cusp of right before we get to where Jason, we've probably would have been at age wise.
01:23:32.666 --> 01:23:43.479
[SPEAKER_06]: And like when they introduce Wiley, he is just a little bit younger than where he would have been when they introduced you far.
01:23:43.539 --> 01:23:47.063
[SPEAKER_06]: So it's like, it's not the recomperson's.
01:23:48.072 --> 01:23:52.456
[SPEAKER_06]: But performance wise, of course, I prefer Jafar.
01:23:52.676 --> 01:23:53.717
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
01:23:53.737 --> 01:24:07.249
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, but you know, he might edge it out just a little bit from me, between the two of them, just a, like, a smudgeon.
01:24:08.950 --> 01:24:10.031
[SPEAKER_03]: I, I, I want to see this.
01:24:10.692 --> 01:24:10.792
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
01:24:11.592 --> 01:24:17.978
[SPEAKER_03]: So my thing is, I got, I, I've been studying these.
01:24:18.194 --> 01:24:19.135
[SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm.
01:24:19.155 --> 01:24:21.157
[SPEAKER_03]: He had hella energy.
01:24:22.379 --> 01:24:22.519
[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
01:24:22.539 --> 01:24:22.880
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:24:23.320 --> 01:24:24.021
[SPEAKER_03]: Hella energy.
01:24:24.221 --> 01:24:24.722
[SPEAKER_03]: I like that.
01:24:25.162 --> 01:24:28.146
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think he had to do the resemblance look.
01:24:28.166 --> 01:24:36.936
[SPEAKER_03]: But where I think the Farguis to edge it is that voice, the mannerisms.
01:24:37.557 --> 01:24:37.897
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
01:24:38.718 --> 01:24:46.227
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
01:24:46.966 --> 01:24:53.435
[SPEAKER_03]: While your draper is dancing, like, season-mike.
01:24:55.057 --> 01:25:06.011
[SPEAKER_03]: To far, it's like, I'm going to show you the evolution because once again, like, if you look at, because I was looking at comparison between to far, both have 25 performance and while your draper's, right?
01:25:06.592 --> 01:25:12.020
[SPEAKER_03]: While your draper comes in with the full energy, his moonwalk is clean, and, you know what I'm saying?
01:25:12.040 --> 01:25:13.902
[SPEAKER_03]: He does everything right, but the thing is,
01:25:14.877 --> 01:25:21.710
[SPEAKER_03]: Michael's, most of the time more I was not there, it was the first one, he perfected it as it was.
01:25:22.151 --> 01:25:25.618
[SPEAKER_03]: And before I was like, I'm giving you all that exact one.
01:25:26.760 --> 01:25:30.507
[SPEAKER_03]: And then it was like, I'm going to give you all the not perfected mood war.
01:25:31.043 --> 01:25:35.588
[SPEAKER_03]: But then when I do the bad performance, y'all gonna get this shit clean, you know what I'm saying?
01:25:35.608 --> 01:25:42.036
[SPEAKER_03]: And to be able to hold yourself back from that, cause he can easily just go and just give him more because it's a move-off.
01:25:42.056 --> 01:25:44.959
[SPEAKER_03]: But he's like, he's the attention to detail that he does.
01:25:46.180 --> 01:25:48.723
[SPEAKER_03]: And ever, I don't mean a move-off working day and night either.
01:25:49.845 --> 01:25:50.505
[SPEAKER_06]: A news coming.
01:25:50.666 --> 01:25:51.827
[SPEAKER_06]: I knew it was coming.
01:25:51.847 --> 01:25:54.991
[SPEAKER_06]: I was like, he finished saying something about this move-off doing a work-over-day night.
01:25:55.852 --> 01:25:58.755
[SPEAKER_03]: It, listen, listen, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that,
01:25:59.984 --> 01:26:04.491
[SPEAKER_03]: for the theater, for the theater, for the story.
01:26:04.691 --> 01:26:06.053
[SPEAKER_03]: I understand why they use that song.
01:26:06.854 --> 01:26:07.895
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
01:26:07.915 --> 01:26:08.977
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't understand why they use the song.
01:26:08.997 --> 01:26:10.339
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't understand why he's the guy.
01:26:10.359 --> 01:26:14.245
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna say, because it was talk of Joseph, you got to be working day and night.
01:26:14.265 --> 01:26:15.707
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the, you know, it's the play on the word.
01:26:16.087 --> 01:26:16.468
[SPEAKER_03]: I get it.
01:26:16.488 --> 01:26:17.349
[SPEAKER_03]: I understand the song.
01:26:17.569 --> 01:26:22.416
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't think they would just replace me because Randy said, I use a shaky body down through the ground, damn it.
01:26:22.797 --> 01:26:23.738
[SPEAKER_06]: Shake something else.
01:26:23.758 --> 01:26:25.181
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, I understand.
01:26:25.501 --> 01:26:29.687
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's just, that's something Michael isn't that I have to just get someone there
01:26:30.258 --> 01:26:37.695
[SPEAKER_02]: Just because a person's intent is impersonating like when you don't have the automatically don't walk on some of you don't do it now.
01:26:37.755 --> 01:26:48.520
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, well, I'm looking for a little criminal and all that and they do the walk and whatever I'm like, but but but but you have to also please the casual fans because
01:26:48.787 --> 01:26:49.949
[SPEAKER_03]: when you hear Michael Jackson.
01:26:50.029 --> 01:26:52.212
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't do the moonwalking every single moonwalking.
01:26:52.232 --> 01:26:55.457
[SPEAKER_03]: But they don't know that every single moonwalking.
01:26:55.477 --> 01:26:55.677
[SPEAKER_03]: I put out.
01:26:55.697 --> 01:26:56.959
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, our sufferings, right?
01:26:57.860 --> 01:27:00.884
[SPEAKER_03]: He don't know that he don't move work to work in that or bad.
01:27:00.904 --> 01:27:09.056
[SPEAKER_06]: No, okay, but I feel like you're gonna be doing it, moving forward.
01:27:09.156 --> 01:27:11.740
[SPEAKER_06]: We did, people associate that now.
01:27:12.091 --> 01:27:14.834
[SPEAKER_06]: with Billy Jean because of that performance.
01:27:14.955 --> 01:27:20.181
[SPEAKER_06]: So I'm like, I'm not a special you to go back and be out here doing it off the wall.
01:27:20.201 --> 01:27:22.123
[SPEAKER_06]: So I took off the wall stuff.
01:27:22.143 --> 01:27:24.206
[SPEAKER_06]: You might be doing it from here on out.
01:27:24.827 --> 01:27:27.410
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, but I'm like, okay, you did it for Billy Jean.
01:27:27.470 --> 01:27:30.133
[SPEAKER_06]: That's the song we wanted to see it in.
01:27:30.614 --> 01:27:35.700
[SPEAKER_06]: If he hadn't, like, he didn't do it again in the Jackson-American Dream.
01:27:36.161 --> 01:27:40.326
[SPEAKER_06]: If he hadn't done it again, I'd have been like, cool, we got the moonwalk.
01:27:41.116 --> 01:27:46.182
[SPEAKER_02]: No, we got that's that's what we came here That should have been yeah, okay, should have been on the time we got it.
01:27:46.202 --> 01:27:47.724
[SPEAKER_03]: No, okay Yeah, okay, I say you don't do it.
01:27:47.744 --> 01:27:48.185
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't bad.
01:27:48.205 --> 01:28:08.811
[SPEAKER_06]: Need it and again I get why your might don't want to throw that in there and knowing now That was the first thing they filmed is like I'm just I'm throwing everything to the wall to see what sticks So cool, but I do think if he only did it during Billy Jean because that was such just like great moment
01:28:09.635 --> 01:28:25.821
[SPEAKER_06]: that would have been completely fine y'all saw it it happened he got on the toes he didn't move walk you know he threw the hat all on all he checked all the boxes that's what we needed yeah I did not need it during working day night I grew to I grew to
01:28:25.987 --> 01:28:53.192
[SPEAKER_03]: Because they have a dance for this song and it worked, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I didn't see it, I
01:28:53.425 --> 01:28:56.469
[SPEAKER_02]: Not doing the song, it's just like him breaking the music down.
01:28:56.529 --> 01:29:00.193
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like break it down, break it down.
01:29:00.414 --> 01:29:02.777
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, he's doing like he's just dancing.
01:29:02.897 --> 01:29:03.437
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, sure.
01:29:04.098 --> 01:29:08.123
[SPEAKER_06]: But maybe that's why they bring it in there, because that's what it means.
01:29:08.804 --> 01:29:12.909
[SPEAKER_02]: He's doing it in the chorus of working day 90s.
01:29:13.350 --> 01:29:13.510
[UNKNOWN]: Erskies.
01:29:17.590 --> 01:29:24.542
[SPEAKER_03]: It's it I get it, but do you want to showcase like, oh, wait a second.
01:29:24.562 --> 01:29:26.947
[SPEAKER_03]: He dances like, you know, let's see the ball well.
01:29:27.047 --> 01:29:28.028
[SPEAKER_03]: It's unfortunate.
01:29:28.149 --> 01:29:31.414
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, he's so synonymous with just that.
01:29:31.434 --> 01:29:33.418
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, but he does so much.
01:29:33.438 --> 01:29:34.540
[SPEAKER_06]: He does a bunch of other stuff.
01:29:35.181 --> 01:29:36.644
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I have a question.
01:29:36.664 --> 01:29:36.904
[SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
01:29:38.086 --> 01:29:39.649
[SPEAKER_02]: On release performances.
01:29:40.287 --> 01:29:43.952
[SPEAKER_02]: Just saying yes or no, if you're like, oh, oh, oh, do you think it'll be?
01:29:44.432 --> 01:29:45.674
[SPEAKER_02]: You think he wouldn't want to deceive it.
01:29:46.014 --> 01:29:46.374
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
01:29:46.395 --> 01:29:48.717
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes or no, mark with you.
01:29:48.737 --> 01:29:49.058
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
01:29:49.418 --> 01:29:49.699
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
01:29:52.582 --> 01:29:55.626
[SPEAKER_02]: Like perform a lot of just like the video.
01:29:57.048 --> 01:29:57.748
[SPEAKER_02]: Shit.
01:29:57.769 --> 01:29:58.349
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to.
01:29:58.489 --> 01:29:58.790
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to.
01:29:58.850 --> 01:29:59.270
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to.
01:29:59.451 --> 01:30:00.892
[SPEAKER_06]: I want to see that cheap as video.
01:30:01.673 --> 01:30:02.134
[SPEAKER_02]: He did.
01:30:02.214 --> 01:30:03.355
[SPEAKER_02]: So he did it live.
01:30:03.916 --> 01:30:08.061
[SPEAKER_02]: When that was for the, um, I'm some day just to the head of Ford.
01:30:08.422 --> 01:30:08.742
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
01:30:09.430 --> 01:30:11.073
[SPEAKER_02]: Another part of me.
01:30:11.093 --> 01:30:12.135
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, that's?
01:30:12.496 --> 01:30:12.596
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:30:12.616 --> 01:30:14.299
[SPEAKER_02]: Bro, come with me as well, that's what I'm saying.
01:30:14.359 --> 01:30:18.026
[SPEAKER_06]: Give me Cheryl Crowe, Cheryl Crowe in the background, get her life.
01:30:18.046 --> 01:30:19.809
[SPEAKER_03]: Because they showed up and she had him in the suit.
01:30:19.829 --> 01:30:21.152
[SPEAKER_03]: They recorded that performance.
01:30:21.192 --> 01:30:21.573
[SPEAKER_06]: They did?
01:30:21.593 --> 01:30:22.094
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
01:30:22.354 --> 01:30:28.806
[SPEAKER_03]: No wonder, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
01:30:31.115 --> 01:30:33.460
[SPEAKER_03]: What was it I made it there?
01:30:33.641 --> 01:30:40.416
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean yeah, what I made it that'll be in the next part I'm saying that could have fit in this one.
01:30:40.797 --> 01:30:45.047
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, oh, they could have fit in this one.
01:30:45.267 --> 01:30:50.018
[SPEAKER_06]: No, so no to the last two then I don't feel like another part of me need to be in this one
01:30:50.420 --> 01:30:52.262
[SPEAKER_03]: It probably didn't divide what I want to see.
01:30:52.283 --> 01:30:54.826
[SPEAKER_03]: And obviously the man in the mirror, I don't want to see that from the Grammys.
01:30:54.946 --> 01:31:00.494
[SPEAKER_03]: I look at his, date his bad performance of Man in Mary's Green, but that Grammys was from 89.
01:31:00.574 --> 01:31:03.898
[SPEAKER_06]: I feel like he's... What do you want to go quiet out there?
01:31:04.419 --> 01:31:11.208
[SPEAKER_06]: Man in the mirror would be a, but probably be a good way to start the next movie if not again to some real raw shit.
01:31:11.869 --> 01:31:13.711
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, you ready to turn the movie.
01:31:13.872 --> 01:31:15.854
[SPEAKER_02]: I think, and he did it super well too.
01:31:16.055 --> 01:31:20.140
[SPEAKER_02]: I think unfortunately the last three are in 92.
01:31:20.558 --> 01:31:24.502
[SPEAKER_02]: or at 90, but for like, we need to get them anyway, because we want to go to eight.
01:31:24.522 --> 01:31:32.029
[SPEAKER_02]: But another part of me, definitely, I feel like some of them are up there.
01:31:32.809 --> 01:31:34.911
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I, at least it was last sense.
01:31:35.832 --> 01:31:39.276
[SPEAKER_03]: Another part of me in the mirror, I would just say it for a sequel.
01:31:40.176 --> 01:31:42.439
[SPEAKER_03]: If we're not doing the full thing, I can say it was sequel.
01:31:42.459 --> 01:31:48.304
[SPEAKER_03]: Honestly, once again, I'm just saying I'm not, if, if something happens in the day, they want to trip.
01:31:48.790 --> 01:31:49.791
[SPEAKER_03]: There's no sequel.
01:31:49.851 --> 01:31:51.633
[SPEAKER_03]: You want a few on the food clock feature.
01:31:51.854 --> 01:31:55.418
[SPEAKER_03]: I want the food clock feature You want to say full of fuck.
01:31:55.678 --> 01:32:16.924
[SPEAKER_03]: I want the whole I just want the full promises Yeah, I'll be on the yeah, that would be and that's probably already on the blue right Yeah, like give me like the full performances that we did not get to see in the movie That I mean how can you not do that for a music biopic blue very release?
01:32:17.191 --> 01:32:25.581
[SPEAKER_06]: I do, and I also do feel like why we didn't get to, like, him when the grand Autumn Grammys is kind of a big thing.
01:32:26.322 --> 01:32:27.563
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I didn't win that.
01:32:27.603 --> 01:32:32.229
[SPEAKER_02]: The scene they had to have Jenny in it, what he had said, uh, every month.
01:32:32.249 --> 01:32:45.645
[SPEAKER_03]: You got to, you got to head him to, and first of all, you partied to establish the Deputor brothers are because they will only make sense for him to say, I want to take all of us, it includes even to me.
01:32:48.005 --> 01:32:53.413
[SPEAKER_03]: You don't make sense now because it's like, you're being built as a junior little jealousy of from that.
01:32:53.453 --> 01:32:56.017
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm like, so it doesn't make sense to have it.
01:32:56.037 --> 01:33:04.409
[SPEAKER_06]: So it was like, you know, my honest, I said, even if you're at the montage of him getting continuously called to win the game Grammys, I took that even.
01:33:06.031 --> 01:33:11.439
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I, I was going to wish they would have spent more time on that part and also the moon actually won't walk itself.
01:33:11.459 --> 01:33:16.847
[SPEAKER_02]: Like the moon won't shot him and super start
01:33:17.317 --> 01:33:23.522
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just kind of like, yeah, he just did a little performance and I'm just like, yeah.
01:33:24.003 --> 01:33:25.744
[SPEAKER_02]: They actually did a little part of the month.
01:33:25.764 --> 01:33:41.978
[SPEAKER_02]: I just opened the moon on the moon, like sometimes I don't like when they use news outlets to get information, but that's a good way to do it in that time frame, because that's how all new sources, new stations, right?
01:33:43.759 --> 01:33:47.222
[SPEAKER_03]: I think we covered everything that we need to talk about.
01:33:47.472 --> 01:33:51.137
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I said, so right now, I'm happy that we got to move me.
01:33:51.617 --> 01:34:03.393
[SPEAKER_03]: Hopefully, that can be a blue rate, additional or if they're going to release on digital, you know, saying, and they can add performances to that, because they know the fans want to see that.
01:34:04.574 --> 01:34:06.036
[SPEAKER_03]: And the fans will pay to see that hell.
01:34:06.657 --> 01:34:10.362
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't buy digital shit at all, but if just to add some performance to that.
01:34:10.863 --> 01:34:11.483
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm big brother with you.
01:34:11.544 --> 01:34:13.706
[SPEAKER_06]: I feel like if we're going to perform, this is going to be on a blue rate.
01:34:14.568 --> 01:34:14.948
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:34:15.704 --> 01:34:16.726
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I said that.
01:34:16.746 --> 01:34:18.609
[SPEAKER_06]: So Michael had to see some children how to work a blue ray.
01:34:19.370 --> 01:34:19.650
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:34:20.592 --> 01:34:21.152
[SPEAKER_03]: I see.
01:34:21.173 --> 01:34:21.874
[SPEAKER_03]: That would be like this.
01:34:21.894 --> 01:34:25.018
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, look, here goes some extended performances.
01:34:25.740 --> 01:34:28.083
[SPEAKER_03]: It's important that we didn't get to see the movie.
01:34:28.103 --> 01:34:29.926
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, fuck, yes.
01:34:30.687 --> 01:34:34.854
[SPEAKER_06]: We can get bonus features back in the DVDs back in the day.
01:34:34.874 --> 01:34:34.974
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:34:35.134 --> 01:34:36.637
[SPEAKER_03]: But I would love that.
01:34:36.657 --> 01:34:38.860
[SPEAKER_03]: But you guys want to do that.
01:34:39.413 --> 01:34:53.130
[SPEAKER_06]: You have to have a selling point if y'all been trying your damnedest to face out physical media and y'all already got the pre-ordered for the physical media of this film and we It's only been out a week.
01:34:53.150 --> 01:34:55.032
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, this got to be something on this brewery.
01:34:55.192 --> 01:34:57.875
[SPEAKER_03]: It got to be something I'm I'm hoping something.
01:34:57.895 --> 01:35:07.627
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to soon always September and all man don't win through what I'll be that figure Well, guys, that's what we go to end it Had a great spoil talk with you guys.
01:35:07.647 --> 01:35:08.188
[SPEAKER_03]: It was fun.
01:35:08.268 --> 01:35:09.049
[SPEAKER_03]: I enjoyed it
01:35:09.788 --> 01:35:23.270
[SPEAKER_03]: That's some of them, but we're going to, like, send me a quick, if any other Michael news in, Michael video content that we want to do, we'll talk about it, we'll put, you know, me and probably keep making videos that caught it about it and stuff like that.
01:35:23.290 --> 01:35:34.969
[SPEAKER_03]: Any other news that drops, we're going to talk about it, you know, saying so, but in the meantime, guys, thank you guys for listening, check out all the other great diggers of their coalition umbrella as well.
01:35:35.303 --> 01:35:36.625
[SPEAKER_03]: and we're about to get it right here.
01:35:36.645 --> 01:35:41.230
[SPEAKER_03]: So once again, it's the man with the play, if you need him, you're supposed to have to stay in deep.
01:35:41.250 --> 01:35:42.212
[SPEAKER_03]: Not the eye sense for five times.
01:35:43.073 --> 01:35:44.094
[SPEAKER_03]: I told you what to think.
01:35:45.576 --> 01:35:47.318
[SPEAKER_03]: And the greatest kissley sketch.
01:35:49.180 --> 01:35:50.121
[SPEAKER_06]: Go to bed, Joseph.
01:35:51.503 --> 01:35:51.603
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
01:35:51.623 --> 01:35:55.028
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought she'd go, I thought she'd want to say what she'd want to do.
01:35:55.048 --> 01:35:55.548
[SPEAKER_06]: Be it a bit.
01:35:56.469 --> 01:35:58.772
[SPEAKER_06]: And if you don't like it, you can leave.
01:36:00.454 --> 01:36:02.577
[SPEAKER_06]: You ought to be thanking them.
01:36:03.670 --> 01:36:09.958
[SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately, when I have been there like that, would it end with a vacuum?
01:36:09.978 --> 01:36:12.121
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if I'm going to be a bigger version of you.
01:36:12.542 --> 01:36:13.443
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:36:13.463 --> 01:36:16.907
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you would have been a real lightweight, the way that that scene went.
01:36:16.927 --> 01:36:21.654
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what we see through the whole series.
01:36:21.834 --> 01:36:22.735
[SPEAKER_06]: That is horrible.
01:36:23.276 --> 01:36:29.644
[SPEAKER_06]: But to get played by a giraffe at the end, these was looking at him like bitch.
01:36:32.189 --> 01:36:38.149
[SPEAKER_03]: and make you float away, wherever you are, where take us out.
01:36:51.325 --> 01:37:11.646
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