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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, you know, you can be ready to need grow number four.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No point in my lecture, I want to go audition to be in the toilet.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So, guys, welcome back to the Americans talk podcast.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Today is what it is.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It is the Michael spoiler cast.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We see Michael and I'll tell you guys right, man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got things to say about it and we definitely, I got, I did my non-spot review and then but this was going to be a spoiler.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I know I have people be hit me up saying yo, when you probably want to talk about this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We are going to win when y'all, when you won't get to crew together and when we're going to talk about something like what we're going to do it and we just got to make sure we do it right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We tried to actually give a video for you guys out there, but we said, but you know what, it's cool.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's audio.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I may even still put a video form out there, what we know, what a couple loops going on, but you know what I'm saying, but still, I'm going to end up right now, we might get up into that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Make sure you guys check out all the other things of the their coalition on Brellet, Brellet, and Brellet as well.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But first off, before we begin to explore this, I'm going to get it right now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to play for y'all my nice spoiler review.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm going to play that right now, and then when we don't get ready, I'm going to leave it and leave it with no time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm going to play that right now, then when we come right back, we go hit this spoiler review.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I want you to possess the place we chose when Mr. Annie, band to give you guys another movie review, and this one is something that I've been mostly excited to talk about, because we've been waiting so long for it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm talking about the highly anticipated new biopic entitled Michael.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Michael is clearly the biopic of the biggest star, the biggest pop star, the most popular man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: or since Jesus Christ himself, Michael Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, and we have been waiting for this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We have been hearing so many things about this movie for years.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Literally, there's go check my playlist of all the Michael Jackson stuff I have.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We've been talking about this four years ago.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So it's been, it feels so long, but I, I we've been waiting for it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And this is directed by Antrial Food Quar, which I thought this doesn't like listen.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got a lot of great directors out there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I did one of Michael Jackson's stories being directed by like black who needs a black story Okay, and I really felt as though that we need to do that and I was okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We do this but not only just that though We also got a grand king while I believe it's like grand king and John Logan who ordered the writer and producer of a Bohemian Rhapsody which we got also and Bohemian Rhapsody was a good movie So I'm like okay, so we got the team set up here so finally
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[SPEAKER_04]: We went down there and now here's the thing, here's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I had finally solid twice, okay?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I did, I was working on a review and I started reviewing it stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, but you know what?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I saw the twice and I'll tell you right now seeing it twice and I plan on seeing it again next week.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Seeing it twice really helped out once.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was you know the standard theater I showed I put a video up about that show my experience in the standard theater and I took I had a bad theater experience in that theater but why I want to go see the eye max everything was much better the energy was much better.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hell seeing the eye max is much better and when I was able to focus on
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[SPEAKER_04]: was much better.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So, you know, we're going to have to get up into the nitty gritty of this review and then trust me, probably will join me, late scheduled join me in another review.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We're going to get to the sports.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But first, we're going to talk about this one.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And off the bat, we got to talk about, it's like, you got to talk about it first.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And that's to far Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They would say something, I was like, you're far Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They would, you may put his hand up in this again.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They got his, some playing Michael Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Literally, when I first heard the news, I was just like,
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[SPEAKER_04]: There are other people on the offers that could put Michael Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Miles Frost being one of them from the MJ musical.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hell, if Wally Drapery passed away, I'd like to bring him back.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Rest in peace Wally Drapery.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I thought this dough like to far because I've seen their one-to-far view that he had, and I was just like...
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, it's cool, but it ain't my I have to tell you one thing right now You know, before I did to me proved me wrong
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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, let's do it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Jafar is excellent in this movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm talking about when it comes down to the dancing, when it comes down to the singing, Jafar nails that shit.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He is below him too.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So there was a person in the movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was looking at, I was just like, that ain't Jafar.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's Michael Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Look, I could understand why Jackie was getting emotional at the Berlin movie premiere when he was talking about this thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got so emotional.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He became Michael on that screen about tears to my eyes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Jackie, man, I was crying with you to follow out there and he nailed it and I'm talking about it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Look, the moves, the look, everything, but it ain't just about that because it's one thing I don't always movie viewers that I've been seeing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There's one thing I don't think you're far as getting them credit for and that's the drama scenes, man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm telling you,
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[SPEAKER_04]: there are scenes in here where it's, he actually has to do a lot of acting with his face and it's not even saying nothing but you can see the fear on him and i'm just like and or how scared he is of his father and he's like he has to be able to portray the in the voice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you, are you actually, i'm like, oh, just have all these ideas in my head.
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[SPEAKER_04]: If I close my eyes, right, and I hear the voice, I'm thinking as Michael Jackson talking, I'm dead serious.
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[SPEAKER_04]: To far kills that voice, I'm like, it would be what we make in front of Michael Jackson's voice, even he was talking in the late thing like this, this stuff.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But to far got that voice with that Gary in the end of 20, he's doing it for the whole movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He is absolutely a treasured to watch.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, the movie lives and dies on his performance.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Anytime we do a Michael Jackson anything, the movie's gonna have to live and die on that performance.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm telling you right now,
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[SPEAKER_04]: before I said, don't worry, I'm keeping this ship alive.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But you know what?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Every star of these is co-star.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And another great performance in this day was Coleman Demingo's Joe Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Look, I had all the confidence in the world.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That Coleman Demingo was going to kill it as Joe Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But to think it's, you can't help.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You cannot help.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's say like, yo, you still got a lot of zoos and jiggles in the back.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, this family is part of the state together.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's the only way this thing is going to work.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You want to compete with that?
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[SPEAKER_04]: You don't.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But come with the me go say, I told you what the bank.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, in which I said, Coleman, the me go disappear in the role and show Jackson Joe Jackson is a son of a bitch.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He is the true villain in this way.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, like, they're not good about Joe Jackson and me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's slimy, he's shady, he's evil.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he's abusive, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's call it this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And imitate something that it resonates a lot with, you know, black people.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We, if you're also in a movie, no spoilers, because this is a nice spoiler review, I won't make sure I didn't get a clip of a nice spoiler review.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There was, in the beginning of the movie, we all felt that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I mean, like, anybody don't see going at Jordan Beach kids, but like, we, that, in the beginning of the movie, we felt that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm just like, yo, that, that's what happened in the household, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_04]: But the way Joe was doing it, and he wasn't just physically abusive, he was verbally abusive.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he was just going to do things behind Michael's back.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he would it would just create these these deals and force him to do it because that you got to do for family and he was just so evil about it and I'm telling you right now it was great and the thing the first thing was man I hope you knock out the park he killed that shit
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not giving her enough credit because she we all was used to answer best and let's not lie Don't come up up here on in and do y'all review some of that and not lie I say we wasn't compared to answer best you you was anybody Remember that that scene for the American dream
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[SPEAKER_04]: Go to dad!
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[SPEAKER_04]: We was looking for Neil on a hat, that energy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But no, she was actually...
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think she took it to more of how Captain probably really is.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Soft spoken.
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[SPEAKER_04]: but firm in her convictions of what she means.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, that's why I feel as though the Nielong was bringing to the character, but also not just that her scenes with Michael, young Michael and older Michael, don't worry.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm getting young Michael in the middle.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm talking about the way she interacted, especially there was a scene where she was talking to Michael in the hospital.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And the way she was able to show that she felt guilty.
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[SPEAKER_04]: about what Habitua said because she felt as though that she is partially responsible for what happened.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And even though Mike said the Center for a Mother, that triggered her to know that it is my form.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I thought that scene was great.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I really thought that scene was great.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But we ain't done with the great performances in that movie, because just slow some shit right here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Just slow me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Julianne, who plays John Michael Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_04]: the board killed it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Listen, for another debut, also as young as I felt that he is dead, that Michael Jackson, that's like from 1960-1971, Morse on 1970, that young cute little Michael Jackson on the one that we've seen on their Sullivan show with the purple hat, the one that we've seen on the Hollywood Palace, like
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[SPEAKER_04]: that is the version of Michael that he is a he brings such a cuteness to him such an innocence to him that I was just like good but man it wasn't even that because even when he got signed to Motel and he was doing the singing in the performing the boy was killing it when he was in the booth and he was singing who's loving you
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[SPEAKER_04]: Let me tell you some my experience at Iron Max don't blaze us in behind me Both took on the church you film me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm so sick of a tie of all these people coming out here again or Beyonce's internet talking about some how many people can seem better than Wago Jackson you know even picking good scenes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're talking about like Chris breezy and you're talking about like you know You're talking about something like that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you can see better Michael Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Have you heard?
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[SPEAKER_04]: The vocals that came on that little boy at that time, even though I'm like, I want to stop.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Stop playing with them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Julie, I was great in the movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'll tell you something, the four of them, they dynamic, it was a poor thing for the movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I have to say this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I have to say this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The movie shocked me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, now with that being said we seen the right to mail scores before the movie came out Do I do we ain't my kept on in my face like the right to mail scores, man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it's 27% like 27 really like I had to go in and release some of the reviews I was just like oh, this ended this and I'm just like, okay I knew this was going to happen with the Michael movie and then of course when they came out that audience score
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[SPEAKER_04]: jumped them to about 96% or 97% now, of course, to review them to like 40% or 3.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm saying, whatever the case may be, but I also think, no, you're not going to sort out a momentum of us going out here and seeing this movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're not about to do that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And if I want to be hitting, but here's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Michael, it was a great time, it was a great movie, but it ain't a perfect movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I want, I'm going to explain what I mean here because this Michael Jackson, his whole life has been in the media and it's not that much that we don't know.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like honestly, I mean, make a Michael Jackson fan.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Huge Michael Jackson fan.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm, I'm telling you, huge.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I read the books.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I got the albums.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I got the jacks as albums too.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This is this special edition.
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[SPEAKER_04]: A trivia book.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's the artist to say.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's y'all know that y'all.
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[SPEAKER_04]: When it comes to my micodex and fandom bill, but we don't even play around here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We don't even play around here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So
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[SPEAKER_04]: When I first went to the movie, I was just like, I was looking for everything.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, I want to see it recreated.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I want to say, basically, I got to be real.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I was looking for like American dream recreated with, you know, the new cinematography and the new direction and beat it 2026.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's what I was looking for.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I was looking for certain things that we probably did not know.
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[SPEAKER_04]: About Michael Jackson to be greedy and the thing is there are some things I wanted to know that I've read in book stuff I didn't I wanted to see play out on screen, but it is very surface level at times.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It really is and I'm not saying to then on Talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's like you can go through the head like oh, you had this this happened this happened It's doing there are some things that they sit in more than they do on other things and there are some things in here that honestly if you're a casual fan like my son is
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[SPEAKER_04]: You do learn new stuff, but I was just like, sometimes I felt like I wanted more to be honest with you and I noticed we was cut to shreds because obviously when comes to the child, I'll get you 93 that was going to be in the movie that was going to bookmark the movie that was the whole third egg, but they cut that out.
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[SPEAKER_04]: and they had to rearrange the movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm like, that's not a part of Antoine Fouquois or the team because the employers, they look up that some kind of claws and they had the settlement and their names look for the case.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Can I be mentioned in movies stuff like this?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Which sucks, when I say sucks, I mean by what it comes to telling a story of how they're trying to tell their story.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So you gotta come and do something else.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm hoping that with the movie being doing good, or it was like, you gotta go out there and support this movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: because if we do, we go to get a part two.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Or even a blue ray released with all the lead of scenes on it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I think that was the weakness of the movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I wanted to thank you for service level.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And you didn't have it on time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And if it goes, it's speed runs.
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[SPEAKER_04]: OK?
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[SPEAKER_04]: There is no part of this war, but I'm like, honestly, it would super fast the first time I saw it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, we in 1966, 68, 69, 71, it was like, whoa, whoa, can we build this a little bit when I saw the second time when I already knew what to expect, and I was able to sit down and enjoy this movie, it works out so much better.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because a lot of times we as fans be going there and we're expecting that we wouldn't see something sometimes without even noticing it you're sitting there waiting to see that part or how they're going to explain it like all that you get into it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: with sometimes takes you out of the movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And one thing I said on my short review was I was actually surprised of the direction that they took.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And the direction they took was that this part, if it is part one, I'm pretty sure it's part one, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: This is a dynamic between Joe and Michael.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Joe Jackson and Michael Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_04]: and Michael breaking away out of his father's grip.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That is what the story is.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I've seen a lot of people online saying, it don't have no story, that is the story.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's just like the story that you want.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's like the story that you paid to see.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But it's the story of Michael breaking out of his father's grip and he has a grip on him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he is so scared of him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he can't stand up to him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then that's what the whole movie is building towards.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And that's the new story, the version inside the tape.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm not mad at that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got to appreciate it on the second time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But like, my second viewing of it, and I'm freaking mad like, you guys this movie twice.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's gonna mean more seeing it twice.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'll tell you, and you, I will back a scene so that I miss.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_04]: At first, I thought this though, little Julianne didn't have that much to do in the movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But at the second one, I was like, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_04]: That took a time he had.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It fell down for what we were able to give, because once again, we can't spend so much time in Jackson 5, we're gonna talk about Michael Jackson's story.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And if we went into detail of every little single thing that happened, we'd be sitting there for 9 hours.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I said they're doing
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[SPEAKER_04]: Overall, I do, I'm telling you right now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Michael is a good time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Don't listen to the rhyme to me at all.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The scores go out there, enjoy the movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I recommend seeing it in IMAX.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's really good, especially when it comes to performance scenes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's like you feel like you're in a class, especially when they went and they could hit four.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There was time, there was dancers, dad, the bottom of the screen.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I thought that when people were dancing, that was the IMAX screen.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That would part of the movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, damn.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We were in the concert right now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You had that feeling from the eye of Max.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I recommend you guys go and see it in the eye of Max.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I also want other things I recommend I don't see a lot of people talking about it, see your twice.
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[SPEAKER_04]: My experience changed a lot from how I looked at the movie and how I accepted the movie for what it was when I seen it twice.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm still not saying today, it's not like that problems with it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not saying it's the best biopic of all time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I'm saying?
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[UNKNOWN]: What?
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's up there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's pretty damn good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I'm saying to the point where when it comes to writing Michael going by my system, we're going to read Michael it's a physical media by which translates to it's a B it's like a B plus like there's certain things I want to and I will talk about it my spoiler that as a Michael Jackson fancier showed you that they they took some creative liberties here that maybe was just like oh like why would they do that why
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[SPEAKER_04]: Trust me there was certain things on there that it like it made my skin crawl when they did it I was just like you didn't have to do that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, yeah, I was just like It's just it's hard to turn it off.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's hard to turn it off.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, especially when you're like a Michael Jackson mega fan as a casual you don't mind it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, just somebody going to see a decent movie I think it's just a surprise the surface though a thing and when when you tear the name Michael Jackson we it's just
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[SPEAKER_04]: perfection that comes to that name.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So you want that you want the absolute best quality that you can get in at that step.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Sometimes I think which upset it a lot of fans in here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But overall, great great time, great movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Go out there and enjoy it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I can say I read a B plus.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Both say it comes up a little no spoilers of how you guys thought about the Michael movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I've really enjoyed myself.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm going to say I went two times and I play on seeing it two more times.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So,
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[SPEAKER_04]: I may not get to my, my record, my record of seeing movies and movies is five times.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I cannot go on the door, but I do know I'm going to get pretty damn close because, you know, the way life is, but I'm just like, I will definitely see that movie way, I'm seeing, I'm definitely going to see it probably two more times.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so make sure you guys go out there and see it, support it because we need to get the rest of the story.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got to get the rest of the story.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yes, I know we heard you far talk about it confirmed it and it's definitely making is that already Dutter you're making it now when what is the latest it's in the early development right now.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and he bus talk about it or hinting at it here or near long, you know, trying that it basically
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Have you started shooting part two?
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[SPEAKER_04]: What do you do?
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm part two as well.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Kevin, you're trying to be tricky today.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm not trying to be tricky.
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[SPEAKER_07]: He's trying to trick me into giving you to you that I'm not giving you.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Say, we're in 24.
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[SPEAKER_10]: So I'm not stuff we have.
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[SPEAKER_10]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_10]: It's like, so we'll see how things go at the box office, right?
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[SPEAKER_10]: Because that has a lot to do with the business at all.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It does really well and not going good.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And we're having conversations about the story now.
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[SPEAKER_10]: But nothing solidified in two after it opens.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But the end of the day, they can say, all they want to, we can say all we want to.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The end of the movie, we can, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_04]: But if you don't go out there and support this movie, and you don't make his money back and double it and make a good amount of money, I'm not saying it has to get to a billion dollars for it to be a sequel, but it got to get damn near close.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It started out good so far, this weekend.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It started out good, but we got to continue that momentum.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got to continue, but you go to the next week because you don't want the next week drop off.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got double it's proud to come in our next week.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It has to stay within the top five, all the top three within these next two weeks.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We are keep out there and go keep going, do it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So go ahead and see Michael Man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're going to enjoy yourself.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm so happy that I was able to see this movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So look, now if you don't want to be spoiled, if you don't have not seen Michael yet, the first one with the fuck is wrong with you, okay?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because first one, but hey, I hope you're a magnificent fan.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's been going to come here and talk about straight spoilers.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Everything about the movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: First off, I'm going to just go right up into it with your overall impressions.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I've seen it twice.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Me and Lee get seen it twice, once it's standard, once it's an IMAX.
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[SPEAKER_04]: IMAX experience is a little bit better than our regular theater experience.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Go ahead and pro.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Don't work.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to catch up with you because I'm going back Saturday I'm taking the kids.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'll take it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I'm taking my my daughter my son wants to go back and then my niece and nephews want to go So we're going we're going with the kids come Saturday.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So the they'll be at there will be three times.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So please I'll be through your pocket.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Would you say or I'll be through your pocket
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[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, first off, I'm taking care of my side of family.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's okay, and then I play system or take care of her side of family.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's how we go on this day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it's the good thing is once again, I have a regular crown member.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I can try to get some
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[SPEAKER_04]: a couple of discounts, but yes, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a
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[SPEAKER_02]: It could be, you know, we have the little time we're about to decide, but at the moment I think it's a solid movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Please catch.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I will say I enjoyed it the second time around more than I did the first.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Show them more.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But, uh, speaking of Schallemar, we're, we're, we're Jeffrey Daniels it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, anyway.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Listen, we will get to it anyway, but now I enjoyed it see it with a black stereo if you can Because that's always fun and I love it was it was good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I had there were some Things I wasn't crazy about and some choices, but I think it was it was pretty good
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's how I'm saying overall after seeing it twice and I'm actually excited to go back a third time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I learned to appreciate this movie for what it is.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And first of all, I'm blessed to appreciate that we guys movie in the first place.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because this was, you know, if I'm talking about like, Michael Jackson has never gotten his own movie before.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And there are just some figures that we feel is gonna be biopic said that it's like, anybody else is getting one but them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, like, we still don't even have a definitive mark with the King documentary.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, a documentary, a biopic.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We have parts, because his life was so eventful, like Michael's one, you have parts, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_03]: King don't count.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't care what you're saying.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They was doing whatever they meant moving.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That many theories.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm still working on that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm still working on that one.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But so I was just happy to see it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then of course, there's, you know, there's unfortunate comparisons which I will talk about later.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I'm like, this is the, like, where the most, like, this is the only kind of movie with, you know, budget with good resources.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because if it's, it's been
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[SPEAKER_03]: Literally somebody was doing a list of bad biopics and near the top of the list was a lia Oh Yeah, that movie pissed me off so bad Well, which which one was worse?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I can't do that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're watching the mirror.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh I don't think I was ready for that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Watch the mirror You see you have a watch a lion fire.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I can't but yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't believe she has your watch with you I you know what I don't think it was like a oh, but Lee is one of the nice of her mere like it's one thing You feel the channels.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's on a lifetime
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[SPEAKER_04]: And as soon as I feel like Tom movie and Leah buy up it we got to be where each other We was kind of a little kick side of for that lia buy off it Well, oh Let's because here's the tape.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't remember.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, I can borrow some other bus because here's the tape We said we didn't know it was going to be as bad as it was Okay, you know what context matters.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, and when we saw that I was just like yo
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[SPEAKER_04]: They did a good job of creating sexy cool and it was a VH1 biopic and I was like, okay, I was I was with it for good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was I was with it, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, when we heard Leah, everybody, you know, been like, you know, we can get that Leo biopic, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then we was like, hey, it's by the c'mon, what's the good name?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's two things they told me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: X man, X man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
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[SPEAKER_03]: on board, which is why we didn't get none of her music.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, the her music involved, and also the film, yeah, it wasn't, yeah, that's why the team, they'll see Mom was good because they had the music and everything involved.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I find it hard to believe that like, I know, because again, I got to trust your memory, but I know I might have been like, oh, I want to watch them, but after fun, because they
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[SPEAKER_03]: After finding that out, I found it hard to believe that I was like, Oh, this is your about to be slapping.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, any of my best slaps, but it's like this, even, even Darrymper Todd Perry, which is like, I want to see this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm like, hmm, it didn't, it didn't, it didn't, it didn't come out of my mouth.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It didn't, it didn't, it didn't, it didn't.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We watched it say, all right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't, I, you know what, at this point, I'm going to start taking that to the grave.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I ain't telling nobody there was a Tyler Perry movie that I was excited to see.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But, so,
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[SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, oh, so we're the the top four actors in the movie the ones that headline the movie real Go on to the performance at first we got sort of with her my boy which who proved me wrong To far Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh Okay, I know what you're gonna say.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was like To far prove prove prove this role because me and prop had been on this channel
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[SPEAKER_04]: If you go back to our playlists going back four years ago, or even three years went daily, when Jafar was announced to play Michael, and I was just like, Jermaine got his hands and this shit again.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's why I was saying.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I was just like, do he look like Michael, do he for, and then there was times I was like, listen, miles false is out there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We can do that from MJ, MJ music.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I want to say I want to work with that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Uh-huh.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, he wants a him to do it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I was just he's a but I think he's in the practice of what one of it And if you practice Joe, but in some of the days like I didn't want to, you know, I didn't do I thought this was somebody else He said this is enough No, he said I might might praise.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I only want you there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want some fun But you know what he is right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He just said what he said my fans crazy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want myself out there Like I said if you don't get this right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you'll be critique hell to be to be real with you
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[SPEAKER_04]: The make face we could take anything about this movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So it's gonna, it's gonna piss his head off.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's not in correct.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But when, but when they're far, it's already a brother cousin.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He said, you know what, they'll call him to the wind, fuck it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Literally.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But Jafar came out there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he said, listen, you will see who's beggin' me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going, I'm going.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Jafar said it's, it's good of all.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he would out there a dead boy showed the fuck up and you know I had to trust with Antoine Fuqua said a grand kid was just like yo first day shooting that bad performance is the first day shooting he had to perform in front of a thousand extras Wow And but like somebody who has never acted before
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[SPEAKER_04]: And somebody, who, like I said, to far has those six acre, so far, he's like, if you, if you look at his most popular video, which has got me singing, it's, it's a cool 2010, you know, R&B, music video, middle of a whole shit, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, okay, show it now in one way street.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, it's not one because he, you can actually move in the video.
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[SPEAKER_03]: or a piece of it or a piece of it or a piece of my birthday to him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was exactly, but he was still copy the page on that screen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was moving him around.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He went to a head at, but he wouldn't even get low like any of her.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Anyway.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Please.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I'm living too far came out there and I was like to be able to do that with that kind of pressure with you out the gate.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He said, it's really dynamite over here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Sorry, Pops, he's real over here to the point where Captain said that if anybody can resemble Michael Ishtifar, she wouldn't know her grandkids.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like it, look at Garmall.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and he has proved that and the thing is, Jafar, he does the performances, he got the look, but I don't know the one thing I don't think Jafar is getting of credit for is his drama scenes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's hurt.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's crying.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's scared.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like all that shady.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's shady.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he's but he's nailing this shit dough.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was like I'll I'll be after I was shot shot shot.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't it wasn't nobody tried it was like but this is how Mike has showed how like scared he was or how hurt he was of like that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Especially like when he after Joseph announced the
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he ran out of his toe build his drive.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he has to keep the persona up and way to the face, be the sunk down in the sea, because he's just like, I'm over this shit.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, he's like, I just wanted to do an offer.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because this isn't, people don't remember.
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[SPEAKER_04]: A people don't always know, don't realize that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They didn't tell what they always had.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And here's what's being off the wall tour.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But the trip was in the way.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, By the way, never had to get a chance to have.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't, he went through, how was it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Three or four solo albums before he was able to actually go out and do his own shit.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Literally, that's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And Jafar brought on a young, I give you a thumbs up.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Jafar killed it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He invited me and his performance was, was top tier.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he sold it to me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He sold to him from the 70s to the late 80s.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Probably what you got.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to say, I'm going to use proponents was very believable.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Also, we didn't get his first active role.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love the people that they put around to them because they all feel like they can they can teach them.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Correct.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I like the people that they put around to them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Even though people that we didn't get to see about the supporting people,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Help him in more ways to work with his first time acting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's good to have those type of people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's just a comment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's good to have those type of people in the business that can, can direct you off set and also on screen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, his performance was very good as Mike.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think they also helped him relax because this job is a lot of pressure.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's a lot of pressure.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think they helped him relax.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I appreciate that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What about your late sketch?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It is important when you have somebody who is very new to have a strong supportive cast.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how this would have went.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If they had made different cast
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was, I think he did a good job.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's always helpful to have, like, as close to the source materials you can.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, if my husband fortunately not here, at least most of his family is involved.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he, of course, had time with him, but he never had time with him in this era that he's featuring.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Cool right here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, I don't know, I think is, I think he did a great job.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't, I am curious to see if he does anything else after this though.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's the thing, like, what does he want to do?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Do you want to try to keep acting as he wants to go back in the music?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because I felt the same thing when Oshade the ice cube straight out of Compton.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it seemed like he was going to, you know, keep acting for a while.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then he just was just like, Well, he is still out there for him, because he, he said he didn't get long calls.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That was, I don't know, he just said, he still asked, but it wasn't like, you know, he's, he's doing two blockbusters a year already.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, my, his, his thing is that people couldn't see him from being ice cube and that they only felt like he was only there just because he was ice cube son and not that he actually like audition and work for it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that's what I'm curious about, if that's what may happen to you before.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's what I'm saying right now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know what you're fucking doing?
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's a fugitive that damn way and put that shit on and go on tour.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Please.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Somebody got to save his uncles.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's just, you'd be telling me, wouldn't it won't fall out and watch you far do a Michael Jackson trip or tour like everybody just said, why not?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's sure, cause I don't go on tour.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go say I don't think I think the far I think the far has acting bug now because he didn't literally I wouldn't even think about that and I was sitting here buying my business living off my dad's fame and my little maybe I want to do what you say what he was saying don't want this fame can we fame okay he's a little of my desk fame I'm like okay I'm getting this to me but it's
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[SPEAKER_02]: When I'm saying this, I don't necessarily think to far I need it to have like a job or anything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He up music and kind of they kind of just, but some reason the justice kind of just do whatever they do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever it is, and they feel like they want to do, they can do, because they are able to fall back on foot like, unfortunately, they're able to fall back on whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it don't matter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think since this, he kind of got an admin book, because he was thrown into it and he liked it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Now, good going on next is we got who it's portraying Joe Jackson himself and that's Coleman Domingo.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Look, when I heard Coleman Domingo got them off with Joe Jackson, I see color purple, the musical and I was just like he was a decent mister.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He could play evil some bitch.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You can do that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm like, it's a great actor anyway.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Then we got to fill anyway.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So we got it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He had to walk, he had the, uh, the jumpscares, he had to, he had to, he even ate like a villain.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That is very wild.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, but don't know why I put no damn house on a cold cup, why brissel.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Don't know why I do that shit with a pickle.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, don't.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Strong ass stomach.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I was like, why was he?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, why does he have to pass go so much?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think they're like a turkey sandwich.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, white bread.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You could still have thickened it in the taste of that shit.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Whoa, buddy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's coming over there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He said they saw.
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[SPEAKER_04]: My house.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not gonna lie.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I will cause I again.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know we won't get into it later.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't sure what's a direction we were going with, um, the Joe, because I did see clips of, like, the brothers saying that they weren't necessarily crazy about the way that he was portrayed in American Dream.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I said, y'all live with that, man, y'all didn't, and they kind of had the, it seemed like they were taking the, uh,
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[SPEAKER_03]: taking the path of, you know, he was doing the best he could with what he had kind of a thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, oh, this is all he knew and if that meant punching us in a chest, then that's all right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, that was how what they felt like they was trying to do, it's like, so to have this portrayal in
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[SPEAKER_03]: This movie, just, seeing, wow, I thought that we would get more of the, like, multi-faceted type of portrayal we got out of Lawrence Hill Jacobs, but they went full on Lex Luthor's stand down at the staring down at the city and behind his back, it's like damn, no were demon qualities.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I felt like that stuff was cut out, because when I listened to him talking interviews, he said, yeah, Joe Jackson was working with Harvard, but there was also some fun times in there too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He can't just be all bad, all rough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we did do some fun scenes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They can't just be all 24-7 ads with him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was, they had one scene where they was laughing over the montage.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was a good picture.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I felt like they were more scenes like that and they just cut them off and put them into montage.
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[SPEAKER_04]: somebody people who've been working on the same thing we've we leased in the pictures and they had a picture like Joe with his heart head off in the steel mill so he'd probably had some a good time with his buddies at the steel mill we don't know that's it's a possibility because but shit would he got home with we got we yeah he took us fire on to the
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[SPEAKER_02]: move that furniture out the way we don't get it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We don't get it now, you know, and then also we have to talk about his wife, Katherine, Jackson, by Neil Long.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Ninety-sweet home.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, don't hold back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't tell her that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't tell her that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't tell her that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And listen, I just said, my wife was out of faith in Neil Long.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We'll be first of, I don't
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[SPEAKER_03]: I listen, I, and here's the thing, I love me alone.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I was just like, I think she can act, so I felt like I was maybe shoot pull it out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just, again, it is very hard to separate.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, you had Angela Bassett, the first time playing cancer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm like, that's gonna be a hard act to follow.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We are in?
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[SPEAKER_03]: over.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was just like when you like I don't want to go to deep down the rabbit hole if we're going to be talking about comparing the movie's later but I just I just was I was Larry where I was like I don't know she's going to be able to follow this material especially with all the time that she had in the many series.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was hoping that she would try to make it her own.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, it seemed like they tried to get her to do that, but it was like, I don't know if the objective was, we needed to have them on two completely opposite into the spectrum because Joe was so evil, she had to like shrink into herself and that's what it felt like.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but I feel like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: part of that is, there's a such thing as striking into yourself, but there's also a quiet strength, and I don't know if they convey that well throughout the movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, she had scenes of both, you know, girl Michael and young Michael, and I do for this though that in my personal opinion, like I said before, the most powerful scene was
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[SPEAKER_04]: Wait, he was talking, he's like, it's not your fault.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But she felt so guilty because she knew it was like, the low key, it is my fault.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I should have protected you more than I did.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, okay, I'm not taking that away from her.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But it did feel like.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like what we have a supervillain, we need.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We need a damsel on the stress, like I just...
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I thought that he was going to go curl up too.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I thought he was going to go curl up too.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He said he was like, so you can tell how he has it all.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I can't answer it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I can get that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then he got to tell him, who was you talking to?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was just like, oh, my God, jump on the door.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Don't look.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, he didn't jump.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So he didn't hit it because she swallows.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then she stood up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he
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[SPEAKER_04]: Solid decade for a solid decade.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the crazy work about it's a crazy work I mean she was straight from having twins to have a Michael immediately after horrible Mike and Randy I mean more than like two years apart like in general.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just two years we know three whoa
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think they're all like stair steps though, aren't they?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like the toy is 50, like it's a 55, and then Marlon's 57, and then Michael's 58, and then really 60, or 61, and then J66.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Can you, at least she got a break with Janet?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Can you imagine that?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Kuf!
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you're not actually got support.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You got like, you got a roll over and look at Joe?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, that's a good old steel wheel, steel mill man right there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man
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[SPEAKER_04]: He can't do it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's like, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Go outside, do it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't like it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't like it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Don't stand on bricks so real quick, like you're kidding.
46:30.434 --> 46:35.301
[SPEAKER_04]: You're like the Buddha's in the blocks, like on a pile dry, you're about to say, y'all.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They are the foot and pillow, over the head, them triple bunk beds.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't like it.
46:41.190 --> 46:42.171
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh my God.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Sadly, we didn't like it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You don't talk about that, you don't talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She ain't you, you get all that sexy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you think about it, it should be.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Here we go, this can't Oh, God Trying to crack that coin I'm saying this will be Look, we've been hiding this deal Oh, it's a lot You gotta have a little foot Yes, I know Chopped for me Give me some look Please, oh Any foot The last time before we got to talk about
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[SPEAKER_04]: Young Michael Jackson Dislow some bitch.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This looks the same words.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, it's this lowly This little Negro Juliano Valdi, I think it's a V-A-L-A-V Valdi, it's I don't know why it's this word his last name be kicking you and kicking my ass It's not gonna be the fuck out like that's crazy
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[SPEAKER_04]: He, I think he did an excellent job as a little bit of an excellent, he'll get credit for it because he doesn't have it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He has time and moving, I can say, I can see the more time I see it the second time, but it still not enough time, but I mean, first of all, and this is first time acting too.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he does Michael Jackson pressure, but he does like the girl Michael And pressure is leading the moonwalk and stuff like that But he's like he had to go back and study You know Michael he had to like the mannerisms
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[SPEAKER_04]: He had the voice, the politeness, you know, the shyness tone.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, he just a cute little boy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I mean, it broke my heart.
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[SPEAKER_04]: See, Joe, what's his hands?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Wow, I was like, did you apologize to him out today?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, stay down.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, my second, it was like, it, it, it, it, it, it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I hope that was a one-take shot.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, come on, the second thing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I leave.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because it wouldn't even be just a regular answer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was one of them, Joe was like, He held his arm up.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's like, dangling for his life.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He had it again.
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[SPEAKER_04]: had him up in the air just who put it he couldn't run if you wanted to now and from the outs and slay who it was it was it was like you knew it as it was coming but the way called it because he's just like coming away but it's even normal right he said so my opinion that was no it did not see no it didn't come here that was it yeah it didn't come here yeah that didn't come here absolutely not it did not see normal not to hit that after um
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[SPEAKER_03]: Random brother number one or two.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just like Mikey.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We don't we don't need that right now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You ready?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Tito look horrified.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How do you know it was Tito?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, so it was all the kids part of it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, what does that say to the air?
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's basically to talk with a guy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Ben, like the bathroom down the whole night.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we are hypersonal and send the blocks, but look, us as black people we felt that We felt that and they also anybody who can take they build often once with motions Like putty tank is insane Corpus inside our tank that man is driven by pure hatred
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[SPEAKER_03]: He, I'm buckle and yanked that in one Swiss motion.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I say he is beating these kids ass on a schedule.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What are you doing?
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[SPEAKER_02]: What are you doing like that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, God.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm glad I'm a girl.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, listen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't start to think for my sister.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, I'm so sorry.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's been a day that my head head head head head head head, head head head, head, head the Swiss way.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Come out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just sit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm, I'm, I'm, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'd be grounded my dad up sometimes, but just like everybody, nobody is no pizza my family.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But shout at him for being a young softy when I was a kid.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was one time I got to.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was like, well, that's it for me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Basically, because he, he afforded my dad from Alabama.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So, it's the Southern, the Southern black man that we just, they got
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[SPEAKER_04]: And it just kind of took out the weight.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So he just came in there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Look, he would took my little mic back to his room and said, pick out one of my bell.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And saying, bro, what you mean?
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[SPEAKER_04]: And the host trucker, she bought a gift to that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I was like, I said, now, why don't you take us out there and get a switch?
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[SPEAKER_04]: He said, no, go on tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I want you to go in there and get one of the big, buck bell.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What's wrong with him?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why are they name on it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That he'd be a night.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He said they all got a name on it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But he did great at little course with him showcasing the dancing, the singing, the performance, every day was good with that kid.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I want to see more of him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He just was so cute in his head that young Michael Jackson asks us about him, but we're going to go back on him, but we're going to the side characters now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, the characters that was there, but you know, missiles get a movie, but they probably get as much time as you would like like an arrest Take this thing Gordon brother number one No, we're not talking but Because I did do anything count as side characters at this point.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Don't worry.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I have to have the own sex.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, the difference by definition he just says side characters that we didn't necessarily have that much time with
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[SPEAKER_04]: What he got in character first.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Not, but exactly.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, okay, you're right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You got in character first.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's Lorenz is a side character.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They are around a corner.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Literally.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They wouldn't even hear.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, like you said before, Lorenz tape brings his, um, what's his.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Gets it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I said, Gets it a little bit to bear more.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They were listening.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was given a Shanti-Ranomi video for just a second.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like he had to reel it back in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That we got this so my way to minute now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't feel like very groovy was I could check in people like that Hey Joe, I feel like I don't feel like you were I Why don't you focus on Gabriel kids here on time?
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[SPEAKER_03]: We got this over here It was it was the look What they did the little little zoom in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I said.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh It's good To the dog But You know what's funny going they actually found a picture very boy that pissed right suit
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure, I'm sure he had tons of them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Sarkly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But not that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You mean to me?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Go here, prom, go here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I said.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You mean to me?
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[SPEAKER_03]: He goes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Not him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, he's up for hate, he, he, he, he get, he get more love, don't stop out of there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Mr. Crossover, no, Mr. Newsy himself, dude, does not cross me at the time of person who allow you to check your Joe Jackson involved with him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I, I, I said, he can probably just put the word in like, oh, yeah, all right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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[SPEAKER_04]: That is first to be where if he wasn't there for five minutes and then I think you know my goodness been neat up It just been like you know just saying he would stay here and see the whole album because we'll be able to move Everybody like oh he sounds so emotional.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's so emotional.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's so emotional.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All right Right so But I thought for the worst tape blockers like I said this is the the For like main biopics is like the third time break with been betrayed Because there is out of opportunity
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yes, in temptation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: In temptation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, like, what?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, yeah, you right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There's bloody waves.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, Joe.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Listen, but I feel like they both did the same.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Boom.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Boom.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Sign up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Uh.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Poison's a kid.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Wait to get started.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Can you please?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Let Bully do your own.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's so difficult to understand.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's equalization.
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[SPEAKER_03]: let's see, he pulled that one down from his diaphragm and he said that's the way he's saying like that, okay, he's telling a kid, well I just knocked out the kid he's like, he's cute, what does that mean?
55:37.553 --> 55:42.699
[SPEAKER_02]: I was just telling him what to mean, not saying the whole word, he's saying what?
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's saying, and we're taking those shorts, and all, and then he gave the little, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I wish you
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[SPEAKER_04]: You can ask me anything.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Can you imagine that?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, he, oh, again, he almost said it to the third.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was like, you guys meet anything anytime.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And as he makes direct eye contact with Joe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, so they got to know how you would have your crying.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He will cry at the car.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's horrible.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's horrible.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not funny, guys.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's not funny at all.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But, hey, remember, he said, that's my blood-word device.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Not Barry Goldies.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yikes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You've got Gordon Green.
56:37.212 --> 56:37.773
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got Gordon Green.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You've got Gordon Green.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Then we also have Laura Harrier, who aka Susan Depass.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That baby from Spider-Man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She was a black classmate, too.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not like, I'm not this Don't do that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a child.
57:17.358 --> 57:17.738
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
57:17.758 --> 57:18.079
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
57:18.359 --> 57:18.699
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
57:18.719 --> 57:19.180
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not
57:19.747 --> 57:21.769
[SPEAKER_04]: I said it for a bit, this is not there.
57:22.150 --> 57:25.713
[SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, most of the movies you did just want to say, right?
57:26.634 --> 57:27.816
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, good sense.
57:27.856 --> 57:34.603
[SPEAKER_03]: When I tell you, it was far too many people lurking in the shadows in this movie, not doing a thing.
57:34.763 --> 57:39.829
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, they probably cut some of her parts, but it just made me so mad.
57:39.869 --> 57:42.852
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, why would you all minimize Susan the pants like this?
57:43.439 --> 57:53.009
[SPEAKER_03]: And I realized now, watching it again, more than like this, she had more of it, more scenes that they got shocked up because they had to.
57:53.630 --> 58:01.979
[SPEAKER_03]: But the way y'all ended up ending it, she really was just back there trying her damn just to get a lung cancer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She said nothing.
58:05.363 --> 58:07.505
[SPEAKER_03]: She said like two lines in this movie.
58:08.306 --> 58:09.948
[SPEAKER_02]: Have you seen what's in the face lately?
58:10.188 --> 58:12.771
[SPEAKER_02]: She looked like she, yeah, well.
58:32.140 --> 58:54.722
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh But has that I really do feel like that was my only beef with little rinse taste portrayal It felt like in order to give him more time in the movie y'all had him doing stuff that Susan the past clearly would have been doing yeah, and I'm not just saying that because of like the Jackson American dream movie, but that was her job
58:55.242 --> 58:56.328
[SPEAKER_04]: That was a childhood decision.
58:56.368 --> 58:59.687
[SPEAKER_03]: Barry Gordon is not escorting his baby onto the stage for no press conferences.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not happening.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's not as I was very good at doing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not a bad one, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it
59:32.350 --> 59:34.893
[SPEAKER_03]: He would not have had them out there at the fair.
59:35.594 --> 59:44.104
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like jumping off a hay bales Not exactly after you do the Apollo.
59:44.144 --> 59:55.337
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna go do you know The pin sock and mark no come on now Okay, that's just be so for real talk showy
59:55.739 --> 59:59.285
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I obviously am.
59:59.425 --> 01:00:01.248
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna be better.
01:00:01.428 --> 01:00:15.030
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I can see that We had Kendrick's Samson play Quincy Jones nascent from insecure All as he had a lot could he had a lot
01:00:15.517 --> 01:00:39.432
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that part that that was like that that's one of the parts that really made me make so I'm like Is it feasible that oh he just knew Quincy Jones and they hooked up because both in the movie the music industry Sure, but is it more logical for you to tell us that he Became reacquain with him when the set of the ways yes
01:00:40.441 --> 01:00:45.689
[SPEAKER_04]: because they had a scene instead of 50, because they were driving up to 2 or 54.
01:00:46.350 --> 01:00:51.358
[SPEAKER_04]: And they was going there, we just got the whole party scene cut, we'll get to that.
01:00:51.378 --> 01:00:53.541
[SPEAKER_03]: And you know who fought that, this whole thing is?
01:00:54.082 --> 01:01:03.677
[SPEAKER_03]: It's very good, it's because you had not, if you had put that old lady in that role for that child and the whiz back in the day, we wouldn't be here right now.
01:01:04.639 --> 01:01:07.343
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, shots fired.
01:01:08.504 --> 01:01:35.845
[SPEAKER_03]: She was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves
01:01:37.748 --> 01:01:41.351
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not telling you what number the weirds is the oldest that she looks.
01:01:41.371 --> 01:01:43.794
[SPEAKER_02]: She looked younger now than she did in the wind.
01:01:43.814 --> 01:01:44.895
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't remember.
01:01:44.915 --> 01:01:45.495
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no.
01:01:45.535 --> 01:01:45.695
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
01:01:45.795 --> 01:01:47.417
[SPEAKER_03]: I might say I don't agree as she looked older.
01:01:47.437 --> 01:01:47.917
[SPEAKER_03]: She looked down.
01:01:48.157 --> 01:01:53.663
[SPEAKER_03]: But I think that then trying so hard to make her make us believe she was young.
01:01:53.703 --> 01:01:55.164
[SPEAKER_03]: Made it look like she was older.
01:01:55.244 --> 01:01:58.006
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like Angela Bassett being a young single mom and me at the Browns.
01:01:58.327 --> 01:01:59.848
[SPEAKER_03]: Be so fucking for real.
01:01:59.988 --> 01:02:00.369
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
01:02:00.989 --> 01:02:01.269
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
01:02:02.451 --> 01:02:03.592
[SPEAKER_03]: Something.
01:02:03.612 --> 01:02:05.173
[SPEAKER_03]: Your head.
01:02:06.571 --> 01:02:16.607
[SPEAKER_03]: Trying to make trying to fit her into the mole of being is like young sheep is school teacher when it should have been like a 16 year old is the reason why I'm like, that's how we got here.
01:02:16.628 --> 01:02:23.459
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I know, when we're gonna get to that because the first time we're gonna go to I'm telling the Darrell Jones who plays Bill Bray.
01:02:25.101 --> 01:02:28.848
[SPEAKER_03]: You mean John Dive at the end of the best?
01:02:28.868 --> 01:02:28.928
[SPEAKER_03]: Bo!
01:02:29.008 --> 01:02:31.532
[SPEAKER_03]: They had him lurking in the shadows, so!
01:02:32.356 --> 01:02:35.901
[SPEAKER_02]: I, he was at a forefront of the shadows, so, not in the back.
01:02:35.921 --> 01:02:46.978
[SPEAKER_04]: This is the one thing about this movie that I've prepped, and once again, I've all, I say a lot of reviews a lot, okay, and of course they say, well, they say 8% and 9% of the same thing, you know what I'm saying?
01:02:47.198 --> 01:02:53.908
[SPEAKER_04]: It was a good movie, it was a surface level, so I'm like, but, one thing this movie does not do is get, give credit with the days they got right.
01:02:54.378 --> 01:02:56.340
[SPEAKER_03]: I do think they got Bill right this time.
01:02:56.480 --> 01:03:03.588
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, people don't feel like, I'm like, Bill was in the American dream, but he was, he was, he was, he was, he was the proffes.
01:03:04.189 --> 01:03:05.230
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
01:03:05.250 --> 01:03:06.652
[SPEAKER_02]: He's the old dark dude, right?
01:03:06.672 --> 01:03:07.613
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:03:07.633 --> 01:03:08.894
[SPEAKER_03]: I got the water dumped on his head.
01:03:08.994 --> 01:03:10.676
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it like damn cheese.
01:03:10.696 --> 01:03:12.218
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so yeah, that's Bill.
01:03:12.578 --> 01:03:16.523
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, and he, and he just, when you see the monster, she just, he just, he says dare.
01:03:17.043 --> 01:03:21.028
[SPEAKER_03]: Honestly, prox to him for sticking around with him, bad ass kid.
01:03:21.048 --> 01:03:21.808
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, boy.
01:03:21.828 --> 01:03:22.309
[SPEAKER_03]: Out of quit.
01:03:23.453 --> 01:03:24.816
[SPEAKER_03]: I have to put the yolk on your head.
01:03:25.437 --> 01:03:26.880
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll toss you on the back of your head.
01:03:26.900 --> 01:03:27.962
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll toss you on the back of your head.
01:03:27.982 --> 01:03:29.204
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll toss you on the back of your head.
01:03:29.224 --> 01:03:30.547
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll toss you on the back of your head.
01:03:30.567 --> 01:03:31.368
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll toss you on the back of your head.
01:03:31.389 --> 01:03:32.851
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll toss you on the back of your head.
01:03:32.871 --> 01:03:34.314
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll toss you on the back of your head.
01:03:34.334 --> 01:03:35.156
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll toss you on the back of your head.
01:03:35.176 --> 01:03:36.318
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll toss you on the back of your head.
01:03:36.338 --> 01:03:37.320
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll toss you on the back of your head.
01:03:37.340 --> 01:03:38.643
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll toss you on the back of your head.
01:03:38.663 --> 01:03:41.528
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll toss you on the back of your head.
01:03:41.729 --> 01:03:43.352
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll toss you on the back of your head.
01:03:43.372 --> 01:03:44.955
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll toss you on the back of your head.
01:03:45.188 --> 01:03:50.293
[SPEAKER_04]: But I did like the interest because people don't really know that Bill been there since the Jackson five days.
01:03:50.613 --> 01:03:51.314
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:03:51.374 --> 01:03:56.739
[SPEAKER_03]: So from to be there from what the 70s all way down to the 90s is crazy.
01:03:56.759 --> 01:03:56.939
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
01:03:57.319 --> 01:04:02.244
[SPEAKER_04]: And with people know because of which Bill was an ex police officer.
01:04:02.924 --> 01:04:04.586
[SPEAKER_04]: And he was security for Motel.
01:04:05.166 --> 01:04:06.948
[SPEAKER_03]: OK. And that's how he got it.
01:04:07.008 --> 01:04:09.951
[SPEAKER_04]: And then so Joe was just like, oh, you know.
01:04:10.711 --> 01:04:13.914
[SPEAKER_04]: We need to secure it.
01:04:14.234 --> 01:04:14.875
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
01:04:15.226 --> 01:04:28.396
[SPEAKER_04]: Later in life, when Mike came back to the States, and he heard that the other bill this security at Motown, he trusted him because the the bills of our own security guards bill used to just get from Motown also.
01:04:28.617 --> 01:04:29.499
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay, okay.
01:04:29.519 --> 01:04:32.205
[SPEAKER_04]: And then he was just like, okay, because I ain't just trusted.
01:04:32.945 --> 01:04:35.049
[SPEAKER_04]: anybody, you know, for me and my kids.
01:04:35.730 --> 01:04:37.634
[SPEAKER_04]: And you used to do something at won't have.
01:04:37.874 --> 01:04:38.936
[SPEAKER_03]: They trust you.
01:04:38.996 --> 01:04:39.337
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:04:39.698 --> 01:04:43.425
[SPEAKER_03]: Listen, that man wasn't around for so long by the time he loved Michael had to protect him.
01:04:43.685 --> 01:04:43.986
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
01:04:44.246 --> 01:04:47.352
[SPEAKER_03]: Because he had to be white with 70.
01:04:47.973 --> 01:04:51.399
[SPEAKER_03]: He had to be very old because he died in old five.
01:04:51.419 --> 01:04:52.321
[SPEAKER_04]: He died just Friday.
01:04:52.341 --> 01:04:53.383
[SPEAKER_04]: He was maybe 80 years old.
01:04:53.363 --> 01:05:00.839
[SPEAKER_03]: He was like 80, so which means if that was the 90s, he was 60 something years old, who is he protected?
01:05:00.859 --> 01:05:07.493
[SPEAKER_02]: He retired, I think he retired at like 69 or 65, like in his 60s even in the 60s.
01:05:08.255 --> 01:05:11.281
[SPEAKER_03]: I just feel like that's like LeBron age of security.
01:05:11.822 --> 01:05:12.604
[SPEAKER_03]: Why are you?
01:05:13.647 --> 01:05:18.172
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what are you going to do with the most humbling person in the world listen?
01:05:18.272 --> 01:05:26.682
[SPEAKER_04]: What are you going to build what he messed up in the California raisins in the in the world please, bro Chloe Did you guys see that water?
01:05:26.803 --> 01:05:40.819
[SPEAKER_04]: It was like Okay Come on man But I was glad that they they Instruction of the cat actually ain't trying to focus I said that he said that
01:05:41.407 --> 01:06:07.633
[SPEAKER_04]: his day with your father was so good that he was just naturally being the right him on set protecting him he was like yo he he he he he he once a giant Logan and it was just like you got a right him one lies because he was going to be just like he was in the american dream just to buy the ground yeah he's like no you got a right him one lies okay and it was like so he was his fault so with his fault we got I'm gonna do the tour I'm gonna do it huh you see a lot of
01:06:08.609 --> 01:06:35.359
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's that's why we got the line between Mike and Bill's about I'ma do a tour as Never never No, but you know it's that dynamic of them at a tour store You know him called a jokeer and it's been basically being the Sarah get father to him when Joe was it You know, we're him and Joe won't click When did they click
01:06:36.031 --> 01:06:44.803
[SPEAKER_04]: So then with that being said now my next thing was like okay, so those are the side characters But now the ones that were just underutilized and they were just there.
01:06:45.083 --> 01:06:58.101
[SPEAKER_03]: The Jackson brothers in the toy Brad It was it was the toy it was the toy it only because I knew it was her because she had that headband on Then it had been on and then it was Michael and who all over there because who who?
01:06:58.482 --> 01:06:59.283
[SPEAKER_03]: Who are these people?
01:06:59.563 --> 01:07:00.765
[SPEAKER_04]: I put it down on the square drop.
01:07:01.005 --> 01:07:03.068
[SPEAKER_04]: It was my gonna focus on five of the four niggas
01:07:05.883 --> 01:07:26.119
[SPEAKER_03]: And also, and honestly, as much as we joke, that low-key may be mad, because even though this is a Michael Jackson movie, they still his brothers There, you know, good damn what you get for the budget No Stop, I wouldn't have at least liked to know who was who, like, y'all, that was not Istanbul-ish
01:07:27.128 --> 01:07:34.343
[SPEAKER_02]: Man, I wish they wouldn't at least establish who, so because like, when that's my basketball, and then when they said, they mean, you wouldn't, you wouldn't approve.
01:07:34.724 --> 01:07:39.815
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I'm like, who, I need to know who to call an asshole for playing ball and jeans.
01:07:39.835 --> 01:07:42.521
[SPEAKER_04]: That was a joke, man.
01:07:42.541 --> 01:07:44.665
[SPEAKER_03]: And, and as it was jeans, I bet.
01:07:46.248 --> 01:07:53.138
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because like I said, I know that Ed is I know who was playing who and then but we He was like I got to go and she don't hazel Mike.
01:07:53.158 --> 01:07:54.981
[SPEAKER_04]: I can't do like that.
01:07:55.622 --> 01:08:00.328
[SPEAKER_03]: But no, but like they I really feel like that was a choice.
01:08:00.589 --> 01:08:06.197
[SPEAKER_03]: That's one of the choices we had in here for y'all not to actually take the time to introduce the brothers.
01:08:07.105 --> 01:08:12.733
[SPEAKER_03]: And you and because I'm just told different people for each brother and still not tell us who they work that's crazy.
01:08:12.933 --> 01:08:13.634
[SPEAKER_04]: Diabolical.
01:08:14.335 --> 01:08:26.312
[SPEAKER_04]: And I once again, once again, I don't know because they were show see, and this is what this was about him, because they actually got to because the actors were playing Jackie Jackson, he going right here like he did so.
01:08:26.832 --> 01:08:27.854
[SPEAKER_04]: Can't please.
01:08:27.874 --> 01:08:31.519
[SPEAKER_04]: So they showed, they showed a clip of them.
01:08:31.539 --> 01:08:33.822
[SPEAKER_04]: We rehearsing of.
01:08:34.240 --> 01:08:37.443
[SPEAKER_04]: the Triumph Tour, the them in the studio.
01:08:38.003 --> 01:08:48.372
[SPEAKER_04]: And eating after the exact opposite they had in the picture, well, I had the ratio though, and the rainbow had, and then, you know, my, and the turquoise heroes, I was like, oh, we want to get there, y'all cut that.
01:08:48.813 --> 01:08:53.897
[SPEAKER_02]: I got said, my, okay, oh, whoa, whoa, slow down, slow down.
01:08:53.917 --> 01:08:54.077
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
01:08:54.177 --> 01:08:55.638
[SPEAKER_02]: What song would they be recording?
01:08:56.559 --> 01:08:57.780
[SPEAKER_02]: And the studio that we need to see.
01:08:58.661 --> 01:09:01.123
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just, it's just, I've just, it's just a brother.
01:09:01.183 --> 01:09:02.244
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it's just, I'm sorry.
01:09:02.264 --> 01:09:03.285
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, don't go through that.
01:09:04.632 --> 01:09:05.413
[SPEAKER_04]: Don't do that.
01:09:06.054 --> 01:09:09.279
[SPEAKER_04]: It's probably, you know, some like, hard break, I'll tell you something like that.
01:09:09.299 --> 01:09:12.364
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well, I didn't, you know, I didn't cut it because there's no Randy.
01:09:13.726 --> 01:09:17.012
[SPEAKER_02]: It really, it's all saying like, why are you in a real life?
01:09:17.092 --> 01:09:18.915
[SPEAKER_02]: Why even do the same in the first place if you know.
01:09:20.557 --> 01:09:22.240
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe they thought Randy would come around.
01:09:22.280 --> 01:09:24.363
[SPEAKER_03]: They probably was like, he not fit in to come around.
01:09:24.403 --> 01:09:25.605
[SPEAKER_03]: So we might as well do something else.
01:09:25.745 --> 01:09:27.388
[SPEAKER_02]: He's trying to use my brother.
01:09:28.370 --> 01:09:31.254
[SPEAKER_02]: You use my brother because no, I'm not supporting you.
01:09:31.274 --> 01:09:31.855
[SPEAKER_02]: What are you talking about?
01:09:32.341 --> 01:09:36.606
[SPEAKER_03]: He said, and I'm gonna see my, what would he be?
01:09:36.627 --> 01:09:36.947
[SPEAKER_03]: Step nephew.
01:09:36.967 --> 01:09:37.728
[SPEAKER_03]: Step nephew.
01:09:38.068 --> 01:09:38.329
[SPEAKER_03]: Step nephew.
01:09:38.349 --> 01:09:38.609
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've got a traffic circle, no, but I do think it is a bit egregious that Sean didn't take the time to tell us which brother was which like eventually we like oh for sure that's Tito he got the hat, okay and we they on stage I know if it's not Tito with the guitar we got Germano over here with the bass and I'm going to presume that the tallest one is Jackie because y'all was out here Marlene if it's for some reason it was 5-10
01:10:27.809 --> 01:10:31.674
[SPEAKER_03]: Really and I'm like they'd like a year apart.
01:10:31.774 --> 01:10:37.061
[SPEAKER_03]: Why is he 510 and he looked 15 and Michael still look 11.
01:10:37.181 --> 01:10:37.882
[SPEAKER_03]: What are we doing?
01:10:38.142 --> 01:10:42.247
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so it was just yeah, that was one of the choices.
01:10:43.048 --> 01:10:48.335
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and didn't have Ruby or Janet along with ready to be in the movie.
01:10:48.435 --> 01:10:50.137
[SPEAKER_04]: Those are the three Jackson kids that was missing.
01:10:50.698 --> 01:10:54.222
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I knew from jump there Randy and Janet was like, fuck you all.
01:10:54.286 --> 01:10:56.369
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know really didn't want to be involved.
01:10:56.389 --> 01:10:57.190
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, neither did I.
01:10:57.711 --> 01:10:59.854
[SPEAKER_04]: And I wasn't getting to be fair with what you did.
01:10:59.874 --> 01:11:01.256
[SPEAKER_03]: She said y'all were pacinipied in there?
01:11:01.957 --> 01:11:05.141
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm out.
01:11:05.161 --> 01:11:10.869
[SPEAKER_04]: I felt just don't like, I really don't know because it's not what I never got in.
01:11:11.030 --> 01:11:11.330
[SPEAKER_04]: I can't.
01:11:11.350 --> 01:11:11.971
[SPEAKER_04]: This is their brother.
01:11:11.991 --> 01:11:13.613
[SPEAKER_04]: I know they're very protective of him.
01:11:13.633 --> 01:11:14.134
[SPEAKER_04]: But.
01:11:15.886 --> 01:11:21.752
[SPEAKER_04]: I still felt like if we got all participation right I don't know if you would see much of Ruby anywhere.
01:11:21.772 --> 01:11:25.135
[SPEAKER_03]: No, Ruby would have maybe been like birdie.
01:11:26.456 --> 01:11:26.637
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:11:26.657 --> 01:11:38.568
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like she would have been in them scenes in the beginning where she's making their costumes for when they were supposed to be able to check, and she and they're doing little dance moves and stuff with a toilet.
01:11:38.588 --> 01:11:41.331
[SPEAKER_03]: That probably would have been like more suited for a Ruby.
01:11:42.132 --> 01:11:44.374
[SPEAKER_03]: She might have been around dip at that part.
01:11:44.354 --> 01:11:54.004
[SPEAKER_03]: but besides like being backstage with them when they were on tour or doing a show or something, she wouldn't have really had much of a presence anyway because she was a girl.
01:11:54.825 --> 01:12:07.758
[SPEAKER_03]: But to like not have Janet or Randy felt like a glaring omission because of when you started the movie and because of where you ended the movie.
01:12:07.918 --> 01:12:08.539
[SPEAKER_04]: Correct.
01:12:08.890 --> 01:12:17.987
[SPEAKER_03]: You want to start the movie in 66 in Janet and she and I pregnant with Janet and you're gonna end the movie on the final night of the victory What the bongo's mind you and ain't no Randy?
01:12:18.007 --> 01:12:19.910
[SPEAKER_03]: That's very weird is weird.
01:12:19.931 --> 01:12:21.433
[SPEAKER_04]: It's it's very weird.
01:12:21.493 --> 01:12:25.060
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean not weird on their part They don't want to be a part of it cool, but like
01:12:25.040 --> 01:12:33.132
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just, it's just, it's just to see it because honestly, it ain't like we, we would've got Janet and we're gonna mention like that.
01:12:33.172 --> 01:12:35.715
[SPEAKER_04]: No, who, who probably could talk about it.
01:12:35.735 --> 01:12:38.780
[SPEAKER_04]: Honestly, if Janet was in a movie, she wouldn't play the same role or toy date.
01:12:39.341 --> 01:12:39.901
[SPEAKER_04]: Just there.
01:12:39.921 --> 01:12:45.449
[SPEAKER_03]: This there, she'd just been around and she, or she would've got a mention like she did in American Dream.
01:12:45.750 --> 01:12:45.850
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:12:45.870 --> 01:12:48.213
[SPEAKER_03]: It was just like, oh, we're at a kid though, Janet.
01:12:48.233 --> 01:12:50.036
[SPEAKER_03]: She's all filming her TV show.
01:12:50.316 --> 01:12:50.777
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:12:50.757 --> 01:13:09.076
[SPEAKER_03]: They Mike was in a studio and you know, they didn't they never showed her there either The only thing I can see is the only thing I can see in Janet doing in the movie is play twist Yes, yes, yes, it's one of the Michael and both yeah You could have sent her downstairs and get the ice cream all of the Negroes.
01:13:09.237 --> 01:13:12.861
[SPEAKER_04]: I said You're playing on my basketball court.
01:13:12.981 --> 01:13:14.422
[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely because I don't know that right now.
01:13:14.923 --> 01:13:15.784
[SPEAKER_04]: This my house.
01:13:17.005 --> 01:13:17.085
[UNKNOWN]: Okay
01:13:17.690 --> 01:13:36.188
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's the thing I see when and if he was like, you mean to tell me Joe was threatening to be Michael that and his house It's crazy work if I don't you don't know Joe's having some issues Mike bought back the bought him hurts it renovated
01:13:36.607 --> 01:13:39.530
[SPEAKER_04]: and change it up and put a second level on, on, on, on, on, hey, of hers.
01:13:39.811 --> 01:13:41.392
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, I'm gonna tell you this.
01:13:41.412 --> 01:13:54.427
[SPEAKER_03]: For the people who was online, trying to convince everyone else that it is a grievous, that he couldn't have managed money because he was a still-mail worker and kept them a float from Gary to LA.
01:13:55.988 --> 01:13:57.630
[SPEAKER_03]: Is it Doper dog food you smoking?
01:13:57.650 --> 01:13:59.472
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you know how stupid you sound?
01:13:59.492 --> 01:14:00.193
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:14:00.213 --> 01:14:00.994
[SPEAKER_03]: Did I ask?
01:14:01.868 --> 01:14:29.580
[SPEAKER_03]: And if, if I hit all the holl and I hurt your feelings, oh, well, oh, well, you mean to tell me that makes sense that, oh, this, this, this one income family from a still meal in Indiana, you feel like that somehow the money management skills from that somehow translates to taking care of an actual estate and all my children's affairs.
01:14:30.961 --> 01:14:31.982
[SPEAKER_03]: How does that work?
01:14:32.002 --> 01:14:37.308
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, do you not know how many people go broke because they hired a family instead of an actual professional?
01:14:38.810 --> 01:14:49.182
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, but that's why we had a hammer and stash tape commercials because he didn't spit up all his money because he wanted to hire I boob was his brother You know how to run no.
01:14:49.282 --> 01:14:50.703
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't remember who it is.
01:14:50.723 --> 01:14:54.808
[SPEAKER_03]: And by exactly how I want to pay roll That man, you know what he was doing?
01:14:56.003 --> 01:15:02.610
[SPEAKER_03]: In that case I will give you you doing the best you can with what you got and then you make bad financial decisions Don't know how to rebound for them.
01:15:02.750 --> 01:15:04.552
[SPEAKER_03]: Why is that so difficult for you to understand?
01:15:04.872 --> 01:15:23.192
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah Like that was I see that I said I know you fucking like Yep, it might be just like the man who couldn't stop shooting with the club long enough for him to rebound some finances from the steel mill Had made great financial decisions All right Make great financial decisions
01:15:25.282 --> 01:15:26.463
[SPEAKER_02]: Sit with, say it again.
01:15:27.464 --> 01:15:29.527
[SPEAKER_02]: He didn't make great right financial decisions.
01:15:29.667 --> 01:15:30.147
[SPEAKER_02]: You shot it up.
01:15:30.668 --> 01:15:31.149
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
01:15:31.209 --> 01:15:35.373
[SPEAKER_03]: He was like, if I do just a couple more, I know one of them is a superstar.
01:15:39.638 --> 01:15:39.898
[SPEAKER_04]: It worked.
01:15:40.138 --> 01:15:44.183
[SPEAKER_03]: And then if you think about that, he had to wait to, he did all of that.
01:15:44.283 --> 01:15:47.186
[SPEAKER_03]: You made all of them kids, and it was in the last three.
01:15:48.468 --> 01:15:49.309
[SPEAKER_04]: What?
01:15:49.329 --> 01:15:50.810
[SPEAKER_04]: She squeezed out all of them.
01:15:51.431 --> 01:15:55.035
[SPEAKER_04]: Look, look, look, I'll just say this.
01:15:56.180 --> 01:16:02.027
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, that's not what I've been doing, you know, at one point in the 80s, yeah, that's right.
01:16:02.527 --> 01:16:14.001
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying that he couldn't, but I'm like the one who is the superstar, the one who's had the most besides Michael we had the most long journey is the youngest and the one who plays all the instruments right so the songs.
01:16:14.582 --> 01:16:14.882
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
01:16:15.503 --> 01:16:16.764
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the one between the two of them.
01:16:16.804 --> 01:16:18.306
[SPEAKER_03]: That's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, you know, you can be ready to need grow number four.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So, guys, welcome back to the Americans talk podcast.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Today is what it is.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It is the Michael spoiler cast.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We see Michael and I'll tell you guys right, man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got things to say about it and we definitely, I got, I did my non-spot review and then but this was going to be a spoiler.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I know I have people be hit me up saying yo, when you probably want to talk about this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We are going to win when y'all, when you won't get to crew together and when we're going to talk about something like what we're going to do it and we just got to make sure we do it right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We tried to actually give a video for you guys out there, but we said, but you know what, it's cool.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's audio.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I may even still put a video form out there, what we know, what a couple loops going on, but you know what I'm saying, but still, I'm going to end up right now, we might get up into that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Make sure you guys check out all the other things of the their coalition on Brellet, Brellet, and Brellet as well.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But first off, before we begin to explore this, I'm going to get it right now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to play for y'all my nice spoiler review.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm going to play that right now, and then when we don't get ready, I'm going to leave it and leave it with no time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm going to play that right now, then when we come right back, we go hit this spoiler review.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I want you to possess the place we chose when Mr. Annie, band to give you guys another movie review, and this one is something that I've been mostly excited to talk about, because we've been waiting so long for it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm talking about the highly anticipated new biopic entitled Michael.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Michael is clearly the biopic of the biggest star, the biggest pop star, the most popular man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: or since Jesus Christ himself, Michael Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, and we have been waiting for this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We have been hearing so many things about this movie for years.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Literally, there's go check my playlist of all the Michael Jackson stuff I have.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We've been talking about this four years ago.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So it's been, it feels so long, but I, I we've been waiting for it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And this is directed by Antrial Food Quar, which I thought this doesn't like listen.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got a lot of great directors out there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I did one of Michael Jackson's stories being directed by like black who needs a black story Okay, and I really felt as though that we need to do that and I was okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We do this but not only just that though We also got a grand king while I believe it's like grand king and John Logan who ordered the writer and producer of a Bohemian Rhapsody which we got also and Bohemian Rhapsody was a good movie So I'm like okay, so we got the team set up here so finally
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[SPEAKER_04]: We went down there and now here's the thing, here's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I had finally solid twice, okay?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I did, I was working on a review and I started reviewing it stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, but you know what?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I saw the twice and I'll tell you right now seeing it twice and I plan on seeing it again next week.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Seeing it twice really helped out once.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was you know the standard theater I showed I put a video up about that show my experience in the standard theater and I took I had a bad theater experience in that theater but why I want to go see the eye max everything was much better the energy was much better.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hell seeing the eye max is much better and when I was able to focus on
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[SPEAKER_04]: was much better.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So, you know, we're going to have to get up into the nitty gritty of this review and then trust me, probably will join me, late scheduled join me in another review.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We're going to get to the sports.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But first, we're going to talk about this one.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And off the bat, we got to talk about, it's like, you got to talk about it first.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And that's to far Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They would say something, I was like, you're far Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They would, you may put his hand up in this again.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They got his, some playing Michael Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Literally, when I first heard the news, I was just like,
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[SPEAKER_04]: There are other people on the offers that could put Michael Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Miles Frost being one of them from the MJ musical.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hell, if Wally Drapery passed away, I'd like to bring him back.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Rest in peace Wally Drapery.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I thought this dough like to far because I've seen their one-to-far view that he had, and I was just like...
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, it's cool, but it ain't my I have to tell you one thing right now You know, before I did to me proved me wrong
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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, let's do it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Jafar is excellent in this movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm talking about when it comes down to the dancing, when it comes down to the singing, Jafar nails that shit.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He is below him too.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So there was a person in the movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was looking at, I was just like, that ain't Jafar.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's Michael Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Look, I could understand why Jackie was getting emotional at the Berlin movie premiere when he was talking about this thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got so emotional.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He became Michael on that screen about tears to my eyes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Jackie, man, I was crying with you to follow out there and he nailed it and I'm talking about it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Look, the moves, the look, everything, but it ain't just about that because it's one thing I don't always movie viewers that I've been seeing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There's one thing I don't think you're far as getting them credit for and that's the drama scenes, man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm telling you,
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[SPEAKER_04]: there are scenes in here where it's, he actually has to do a lot of acting with his face and it's not even saying nothing but you can see the fear on him and i'm just like and or how scared he is of his father and he's like he has to be able to portray the in the voice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you, are you actually, i'm like, oh, just have all these ideas in my head.
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[SPEAKER_04]: If I close my eyes, right, and I hear the voice, I'm thinking as Michael Jackson talking, I'm dead serious.
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[SPEAKER_04]: To far kills that voice, I'm like, it would be what we make in front of Michael Jackson's voice, even he was talking in the late thing like this, this stuff.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But to far got that voice with that Gary in the end of 20, he's doing it for the whole movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He is absolutely a treasured to watch.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, the movie lives and dies on his performance.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Anytime we do a Michael Jackson anything, the movie's gonna have to live and die on that performance.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm telling you right now,
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[SPEAKER_04]: before I said, don't worry, I'm keeping this ship alive.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But you know what?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Every star of these is co-star.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And another great performance in this day was Coleman Demingo's Joe Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Look, I had all the confidence in the world.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That Coleman Demingo was going to kill it as Joe Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But to think it's, you can't help.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You cannot help.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's say like, yo, you still got a lot of zoos and jiggles in the back.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, this family is part of the state together.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's the only way this thing is going to work.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You want to compete with that?
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[SPEAKER_04]: You don't.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But come with the me go say, I told you what the bank.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, in which I said, Coleman, the me go disappear in the role and show Jackson Joe Jackson is a son of a bitch.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He is the true villain in this way.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, like, they're not good about Joe Jackson and me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's slimy, he's shady, he's evil.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he's abusive, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's call it this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And imitate something that it resonates a lot with, you know, black people.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We, if you're also in a movie, no spoilers, because this is a nice spoiler review, I won't make sure I didn't get a clip of a nice spoiler review.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There was, in the beginning of the movie, we all felt that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I mean, like, anybody don't see going at Jordan Beach kids, but like, we, that, in the beginning of the movie, we felt that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm just like, yo, that, that's what happened in the household, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_04]: But the way Joe was doing it, and he wasn't just physically abusive, he was verbally abusive.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he was just going to do things behind Michael's back.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he would it would just create these these deals and force him to do it because that you got to do for family and he was just so evil about it and I'm telling you right now it was great and the thing the first thing was man I hope you knock out the park he killed that shit
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not giving her enough credit because she we all was used to answer best and let's not lie Don't come up up here on in and do y'all review some of that and not lie I say we wasn't compared to answer best you you was anybody Remember that that scene for the American dream
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[SPEAKER_04]: Go to dad!
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[SPEAKER_04]: We was looking for Neil on a hat, that energy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But no, she was actually...
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think she took it to more of how Captain probably really is.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Soft spoken.
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[SPEAKER_04]: but firm in her convictions of what she means.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, that's why I feel as though the Nielong was bringing to the character, but also not just that her scenes with Michael, young Michael and older Michael, don't worry.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm getting young Michael in the middle.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm talking about the way she interacted, especially there was a scene where she was talking to Michael in the hospital.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And the way she was able to show that she felt guilty.
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[SPEAKER_04]: about what Habitua said because she felt as though that she is partially responsible for what happened.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And even though Mike said the Center for a Mother, that triggered her to know that it is my form.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I thought that scene was great.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I really thought that scene was great.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But we ain't done with the great performances in that movie, because just slow some shit right here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Just slow me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Julianne, who plays John Michael Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_04]: the board killed it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Listen, for another debut, also as young as I felt that he is dead, that Michael Jackson, that's like from 1960-1971, Morse on 1970, that young cute little Michael Jackson on the one that we've seen on their Sullivan show with the purple hat, the one that we've seen on the Hollywood Palace, like
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[SPEAKER_04]: that is the version of Michael that he is a he brings such a cuteness to him such an innocence to him that I was just like good but man it wasn't even that because even when he got signed to Motel and he was doing the singing in the performing the boy was killing it when he was in the booth and he was singing who's loving you
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[SPEAKER_04]: Let me tell you some my experience at Iron Max don't blaze us in behind me Both took on the church you film me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm so sick of a tie of all these people coming out here again or Beyonce's internet talking about some how many people can seem better than Wago Jackson you know even picking good scenes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're talking about like Chris breezy and you're talking about like you know You're talking about something like that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you can see better Michael Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Have you heard?
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[SPEAKER_04]: The vocals that came on that little boy at that time, even though I'm like, I want to stop.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Stop playing with them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Julie, I was great in the movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'll tell you something, the four of them, they dynamic, it was a poor thing for the movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I have to say this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I have to say this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The movie shocked me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, now with that being said we seen the right to mail scores before the movie came out Do I do we ain't my kept on in my face like the right to mail scores, man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it's 27% like 27 really like I had to go in and release some of the reviews I was just like oh, this ended this and I'm just like, okay I knew this was going to happen with the Michael movie and then of course when they came out that audience score
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[SPEAKER_04]: jumped them to about 96% or 97% now, of course, to review them to like 40% or 3.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm saying, whatever the case may be, but I also think, no, you're not going to sort out a momentum of us going out here and seeing this movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're not about to do that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And if I want to be hitting, but here's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Michael, it was a great time, it was a great movie, but it ain't a perfect movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I want, I'm going to explain what I mean here because this Michael Jackson, his whole life has been in the media and it's not that much that we don't know.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like honestly, I mean, make a Michael Jackson fan.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Huge Michael Jackson fan.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm, I'm telling you, huge.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I read the books.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I got the albums.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I got the jacks as albums too.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This is this special edition.
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[SPEAKER_04]: A trivia book.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's the artist to say.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's y'all know that y'all.
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[SPEAKER_04]: When it comes to my micodex and fandom bill, but we don't even play around here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We don't even play around here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So
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[SPEAKER_04]: When I first went to the movie, I was just like, I was looking for everything.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, I want to see it recreated.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I want to say, basically, I got to be real.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I was looking for like American dream recreated with, you know, the new cinematography and the new direction and beat it 2026.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's what I was looking for.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I was looking for certain things that we probably did not know.
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[SPEAKER_04]: About Michael Jackson to be greedy and the thing is there are some things I wanted to know that I've read in book stuff I didn't I wanted to see play out on screen, but it is very surface level at times.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It really is and I'm not saying to then on Talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's like you can go through the head like oh, you had this this happened this happened It's doing there are some things that they sit in more than they do on other things and there are some things in here that honestly if you're a casual fan like my son is
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[SPEAKER_04]: You do learn new stuff, but I was just like, sometimes I felt like I wanted more to be honest with you and I noticed we was cut to shreds because obviously when comes to the child, I'll get you 93 that was going to be in the movie that was going to bookmark the movie that was the whole third egg, but they cut that out.
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[SPEAKER_04]: and they had to rearrange the movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm like, that's not a part of Antoine Fouquois or the team because the employers, they look up that some kind of claws and they had the settlement and their names look for the case.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Can I be mentioned in movies stuff like this?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Which sucks, when I say sucks, I mean by what it comes to telling a story of how they're trying to tell their story.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So you gotta come and do something else.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm hoping that with the movie being doing good, or it was like, you gotta go out there and support this movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: because if we do, we go to get a part two.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Or even a blue ray released with all the lead of scenes on it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I think that was the weakness of the movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I wanted to thank you for service level.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And you didn't have it on time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And if it goes, it's speed runs.
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[SPEAKER_04]: OK?
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[SPEAKER_04]: There is no part of this war, but I'm like, honestly, it would super fast the first time I saw it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, we in 1966, 68, 69, 71, it was like, whoa, whoa, can we build this a little bit when I saw the second time when I already knew what to expect, and I was able to sit down and enjoy this movie, it works out so much better.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because a lot of times we as fans be going there and we're expecting that we wouldn't see something sometimes without even noticing it you're sitting there waiting to see that part or how they're going to explain it like all that you get into it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: with sometimes takes you out of the movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And one thing I said on my short review was I was actually surprised of the direction that they took.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And the direction they took was that this part, if it is part one, I'm pretty sure it's part one, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: This is a dynamic between Joe and Michael.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Joe Jackson and Michael Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_04]: and Michael breaking away out of his father's grip.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That is what the story is.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I've seen a lot of people online saying, it don't have no story, that is the story.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's just like the story that you want.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's like the story that you paid to see.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But it's the story of Michael breaking out of his father's grip and he has a grip on him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he is so scared of him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he can't stand up to him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then that's what the whole movie is building towards.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And that's the new story, the version inside the tape.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm not mad at that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got to appreciate it on the second time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But like, my second viewing of it, and I'm freaking mad like, you guys this movie twice.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's gonna mean more seeing it twice.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'll tell you, and you, I will back a scene so that I miss.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_04]: At first, I thought this though, little Julianne didn't have that much to do in the movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But at the second one, I was like, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_04]: That took a time he had.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It fell down for what we were able to give, because once again, we can't spend so much time in Jackson 5, we're gonna talk about Michael Jackson's story.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And if we went into detail of every little single thing that happened, we'd be sitting there for 9 hours.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I said they're doing
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[SPEAKER_04]: Overall, I do, I'm telling you right now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Michael is a good time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Don't listen to the rhyme to me at all.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The scores go out there, enjoy the movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I recommend seeing it in IMAX.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's really good, especially when it comes to performance scenes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's like you feel like you're in a class, especially when they went and they could hit four.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There was time, there was dancers, dad, the bottom of the screen.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I thought that when people were dancing, that was the IMAX screen.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That would part of the movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, damn.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We were in the concert right now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You had that feeling from the eye of Max.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I recommend you guys go and see it in the eye of Max.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I also want other things I recommend I don't see a lot of people talking about it, see your twice.
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[SPEAKER_04]: My experience changed a lot from how I looked at the movie and how I accepted the movie for what it was when I seen it twice.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm still not saying today, it's not like that problems with it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not saying it's the best biopic of all time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I'm saying?
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[UNKNOWN]: What?
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's up there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's pretty damn good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I'm saying to the point where when it comes to writing Michael going by my system, we're going to read Michael it's a physical media by which translates to it's a B it's like a B plus like there's certain things I want to and I will talk about it my spoiler that as a Michael Jackson fancier showed you that they they took some creative liberties here that maybe was just like oh like why would they do that why
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[SPEAKER_04]: Trust me there was certain things on there that it like it made my skin crawl when they did it I was just like you didn't have to do that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, yeah, I was just like It's just it's hard to turn it off.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's hard to turn it off.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, especially when you're like a Michael Jackson mega fan as a casual you don't mind it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, just somebody going to see a decent movie I think it's just a surprise the surface though a thing and when when you tear the name Michael Jackson we it's just
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[SPEAKER_04]: perfection that comes to that name.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So you want that you want the absolute best quality that you can get in at that step.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Sometimes I think which upset it a lot of fans in here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But overall, great great time, great movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Go out there and enjoy it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I can say I read a B plus.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Both say it comes up a little no spoilers of how you guys thought about the Michael movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I've really enjoyed myself.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm going to say I went two times and I play on seeing it two more times.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So,
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[SPEAKER_04]: I may not get to my, my record, my record of seeing movies and movies is five times.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I cannot go on the door, but I do know I'm going to get pretty damn close because, you know, the way life is, but I'm just like, I will definitely see that movie way, I'm seeing, I'm definitely going to see it probably two more times.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so make sure you guys go out there and see it, support it because we need to get the rest of the story.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got to get the rest of the story.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yes, I know we heard you far talk about it confirmed it and it's definitely making is that already Dutter you're making it now when what is the latest it's in the early development right now.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and he bus talk about it or hinting at it here or near long, you know, trying that it basically
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Have you started shooting part two?
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[SPEAKER_04]: What do you do?
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm part two as well.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Kevin, you're trying to be tricky today.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm not trying to be tricky.
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[SPEAKER_07]: He's trying to trick me into giving you to you that I'm not giving you.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Say, we're in 24.
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[SPEAKER_10]: So I'm not stuff we have.
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[SPEAKER_10]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_10]: It's like, so we'll see how things go at the box office, right?
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[SPEAKER_10]: Because that has a lot to do with the business at all.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It does really well and not going good.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And we're having conversations about the story now.
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[SPEAKER_10]: But nothing solidified in two after it opens.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But the end of the day, they can say, all they want to, we can say all we want to.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The end of the movie, we can, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_04]: But if you don't go out there and support this movie, and you don't make his money back and double it and make a good amount of money, I'm not saying it has to get to a billion dollars for it to be a sequel, but it got to get damn near close.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It started out good so far, this weekend.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It started out good, but we got to continue that momentum.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got to continue, but you go to the next week because you don't want the next week drop off.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got double it's proud to come in our next week.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It has to stay within the top five, all the top three within these next two weeks.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We are keep out there and go keep going, do it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So go ahead and see Michael Man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're going to enjoy yourself.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm so happy that I was able to see this movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So look, now if you don't want to be spoiled, if you don't have not seen Michael yet, the first one with the fuck is wrong with you, okay?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because first one, but hey, I hope you're a magnificent fan.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's been going to come here and talk about straight spoilers.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Everything about the movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: First off, I'm going to just go right up into it with your overall impressions.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I've seen it twice.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Me and Lee get seen it twice, once it's standard, once it's an IMAX.
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[SPEAKER_04]: IMAX experience is a little bit better than our regular theater experience.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Go ahead and pro.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Don't work.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to catch up with you because I'm going back Saturday I'm taking the kids.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'll take it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I'm taking my my daughter my son wants to go back and then my niece and nephews want to go So we're going we're going with the kids come Saturday.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So the they'll be at there will be three times.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So please I'll be through your pocket.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Would you say or I'll be through your pocket
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[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, first off, I'm taking care of my side of family.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's okay, and then I play system or take care of her side of family.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's how we go on this day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it's the good thing is once again, I have a regular crown member.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I can try to get some
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[SPEAKER_04]: a couple of discounts, but yes, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a lot, it's gonna be a
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[SPEAKER_02]: It could be, you know, we have the little time we're about to decide, but at the moment I think it's a solid movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Please catch.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I will say I enjoyed it the second time around more than I did the first.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Show them more.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But, uh, speaking of Schallemar, we're, we're, we're Jeffrey Daniels it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, anyway.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Listen, we will get to it anyway, but now I enjoyed it see it with a black stereo if you can Because that's always fun and I love it was it was good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I had there were some Things I wasn't crazy about and some choices, but I think it was it was pretty good
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's how I'm saying overall after seeing it twice and I'm actually excited to go back a third time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I learned to appreciate this movie for what it is.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And first of all, I'm blessed to appreciate that we guys movie in the first place.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because this was, you know, if I'm talking about like, Michael Jackson has never gotten his own movie before.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And there are just some figures that we feel is gonna be biopic said that it's like, anybody else is getting one but them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, like, we still don't even have a definitive mark with the King documentary.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, a documentary, a biopic.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We have parts, because his life was so eventful, like Michael's one, you have parts, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_03]: King don't count.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't care what you're saying.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They was doing whatever they meant moving.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That many theories.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm still working on that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm still working on that one.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But so I was just happy to see it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then of course, there's, you know, there's unfortunate comparisons which I will talk about later.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I'm like, this is the, like, where the most, like, this is the only kind of movie with, you know, budget with good resources.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because if it's, it's been
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[SPEAKER_03]: Literally somebody was doing a list of bad biopics and near the top of the list was a lia Oh Yeah, that movie pissed me off so bad Well, which which one was worse?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I can't do that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're watching the mirror.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh I don't think I was ready for that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Watch the mirror You see you have a watch a lion fire.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I can't but yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't believe she has your watch with you I you know what I don't think it was like a oh, but Lee is one of the nice of her mere like it's one thing You feel the channels.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's on a lifetime
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[SPEAKER_04]: And as soon as I feel like Tom movie and Leah buy up it we got to be where each other We was kind of a little kick side of for that lia buy off it Well, oh Let's because here's the tape.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't remember.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, I can borrow some other bus because here's the tape We said we didn't know it was going to be as bad as it was Okay, you know what context matters.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, and when we saw that I was just like yo
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[SPEAKER_04]: They did a good job of creating sexy cool and it was a VH1 biopic and I was like, okay, I was I was with it for good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was I was with it, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, when we heard Leah, everybody, you know, been like, you know, we can get that Leo biopic, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then we was like, hey, it's by the c'mon, what's the good name?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's two things they told me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: X man, X man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
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[SPEAKER_03]: on board, which is why we didn't get none of her music.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, the her music involved, and also the film, yeah, it wasn't, yeah, that's why the team, they'll see Mom was good because they had the music and everything involved.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I find it hard to believe that like, I know, because again, I got to trust your memory, but I know I might have been like, oh, I want to watch them, but after fun, because they
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[SPEAKER_03]: After finding that out, I found it hard to believe that I was like, Oh, this is your about to be slapping.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, any of my best slaps, but it's like this, even, even Darrymper Todd Perry, which is like, I want to see this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm like, hmm, it didn't, it didn't, it didn't, it didn't come out of my mouth.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It didn't, it didn't, it didn't, it didn't.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We watched it say, all right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't, I, you know what, at this point, I'm going to start taking that to the grave.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I ain't telling nobody there was a Tyler Perry movie that I was excited to see.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But, so,
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[SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, oh, so we're the the top four actors in the movie the ones that headline the movie real Go on to the performance at first we got sort of with her my boy which who proved me wrong To far Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh Okay, I know what you're gonna say.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was like To far prove prove prove this role because me and prop had been on this channel
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[SPEAKER_04]: If you go back to our playlists going back four years ago, or even three years went daily, when Jafar was announced to play Michael, and I was just like, Jermaine got his hands and this shit again.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's why I was saying.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I was just like, do he look like Michael, do he for, and then there was times I was like, listen, miles false is out there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We can do that from MJ, MJ music.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I want to say I want to work with that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Uh-huh.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, he wants a him to do it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I was just he's a but I think he's in the practice of what one of it And if you practice Joe, but in some of the days like I didn't want to, you know, I didn't do I thought this was somebody else He said this is enough No, he said I might might praise.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I only want you there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want some fun But you know what he is right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He just said what he said my fans crazy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want myself out there Like I said if you don't get this right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you'll be critique hell to be to be real with you
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[SPEAKER_04]: The make face we could take anything about this movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So it's gonna, it's gonna piss his head off.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's not in correct.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But when, but when they're far, it's already a brother cousin.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He said, you know what, they'll call him to the wind, fuck it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Literally.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But Jafar came out there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he said, listen, you will see who's beggin' me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going, I'm going.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Jafar said it's, it's good of all.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he would out there a dead boy showed the fuck up and you know I had to trust with Antoine Fuqua said a grand kid was just like yo first day shooting that bad performance is the first day shooting he had to perform in front of a thousand extras Wow And but like somebody who has never acted before
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[SPEAKER_04]: And somebody, who, like I said, to far has those six acre, so far, he's like, if you, if you look at his most popular video, which has got me singing, it's, it's a cool 2010, you know, R&B, music video, middle of a whole shit, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, okay, show it now in one way street.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, it's not one because he, you can actually move in the video.
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[SPEAKER_03]: or a piece of it or a piece of it or a piece of my birthday to him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was exactly, but he was still copy the page on that screen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was moving him around.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He went to a head at, but he wouldn't even get low like any of her.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Anyway.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Please.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I'm living too far came out there and I was like to be able to do that with that kind of pressure with you out the gate.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He said, it's really dynamite over here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Sorry, Pops, he's real over here to the point where Captain said that if anybody can resemble Michael Ishtifar, she wouldn't know her grandkids.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like it, look at Garmall.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and he has proved that and the thing is, Jafar, he does the performances, he got the look, but I don't know the one thing I don't think Jafar is getting of credit for is his drama scenes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's hurt.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's crying.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's scared.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like all that shady.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's shady.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he's but he's nailing this shit dough.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was like I'll I'll be after I was shot shot shot.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't it wasn't nobody tried it was like but this is how Mike has showed how like scared he was or how hurt he was of like that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Especially like when he after Joseph announced the
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he ran out of his toe build his drive.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he has to keep the persona up and way to the face, be the sunk down in the sea, because he's just like, I'm over this shit.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, he's like, I just wanted to do an offer.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because this isn't, people don't remember.
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[SPEAKER_04]: A people don't always know, don't realize that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They didn't tell what they always had.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And here's what's being off the wall tour.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But the trip was in the way.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, By the way, never had to get a chance to have.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't, he went through, how was it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Three or four solo albums before he was able to actually go out and do his own shit.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Literally, that's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And Jafar brought on a young, I give you a thumbs up.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Jafar killed it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He invited me and his performance was, was top tier.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he sold it to me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He sold to him from the 70s to the late 80s.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Probably what you got.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to say, I'm going to use proponents was very believable.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Also, we didn't get his first active role.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love the people that they put around to them because they all feel like they can they can teach them.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Correct.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I like the people that they put around to them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Even though people that we didn't get to see about the supporting people,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Help him in more ways to work with his first time acting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's good to have those type of people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's just a comment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's good to have those type of people in the business that can, can direct you off set and also on screen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, his performance was very good as Mike.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think they also helped him relax because this job is a lot of pressure.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's a lot of pressure.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think they helped him relax.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I appreciate that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What about your late sketch?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It is important when you have somebody who is very new to have a strong supportive cast.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how this would have went.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If they had made different cast
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was, I think he did a good job.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's always helpful to have, like, as close to the source materials you can.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, if my husband fortunately not here, at least most of his family is involved.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he, of course, had time with him, but he never had time with him in this era that he's featuring.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Cool right here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, I don't know, I think is, I think he did a great job.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't, I am curious to see if he does anything else after this though.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's the thing, like, what does he want to do?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Do you want to try to keep acting as he wants to go back in the music?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because I felt the same thing when Oshade the ice cube straight out of Compton.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it seemed like he was going to, you know, keep acting for a while.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then he just was just like, Well, he is still out there for him, because he, he said he didn't get long calls.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That was, I don't know, he just said, he still asked, but it wasn't like, you know, he's, he's doing two blockbusters a year already.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, my, his, his thing is that people couldn't see him from being ice cube and that they only felt like he was only there just because he was ice cube son and not that he actually like audition and work for it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that's what I'm curious about, if that's what may happen to you before.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's what I'm saying right now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know what you're fucking doing?
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's a fugitive that damn way and put that shit on and go on tour.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Please.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Somebody got to save his uncles.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's just, you'd be telling me, wouldn't it won't fall out and watch you far do a Michael Jackson trip or tour like everybody just said, why not?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's sure, cause I don't go on tour.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go say I don't think I think the far I think the far has acting bug now because he didn't literally I wouldn't even think about that and I was sitting here buying my business living off my dad's fame and my little maybe I want to do what you say what he was saying don't want this fame can we fame okay he's a little of my desk fame I'm like okay I'm getting this to me but it's
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[SPEAKER_02]: When I'm saying this, I don't necessarily think to far I need it to have like a job or anything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He up music and kind of they kind of just, but some reason the justice kind of just do whatever they do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever it is, and they feel like they want to do, they can do, because they are able to fall back on foot like, unfortunately, they're able to fall back on whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it don't matter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think since this, he kind of got an admin book, because he was thrown into it and he liked it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Now, good going on next is we got who it's portraying Joe Jackson himself and that's Coleman Domingo.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Look, when I heard Coleman Domingo got them off with Joe Jackson, I see color purple, the musical and I was just like he was a decent mister.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He could play evil some bitch.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You can do that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm like, it's a great actor anyway.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Then we got to fill anyway.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So we got it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He had to walk, he had the, uh, the jumpscares, he had to, he had to, he even ate like a villain.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That is very wild.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, but don't know why I put no damn house on a cold cup, why brissel.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Don't know why I do that shit with a pickle.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, don't.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Strong ass stomach.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I was like, why was he?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, why does he have to pass go so much?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think they're like a turkey sandwich.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, white bread.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You could still have thickened it in the taste of that shit.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Whoa, buddy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's coming over there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He said they saw.
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[SPEAKER_04]: My house.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not gonna lie.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I will cause I again.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know we won't get into it later.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't sure what's a direction we were going with, um, the Joe, because I did see clips of, like, the brothers saying that they weren't necessarily crazy about the way that he was portrayed in American Dream.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I said, y'all live with that, man, y'all didn't, and they kind of had the, it seemed like they were taking the, uh,
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[SPEAKER_03]: taking the path of, you know, he was doing the best he could with what he had kind of a thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, oh, this is all he knew and if that meant punching us in a chest, then that's all right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, that was how what they felt like they was trying to do, it's like, so to have this portrayal in
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[SPEAKER_03]: This movie, just, seeing, wow, I thought that we would get more of the, like, multi-faceted type of portrayal we got out of Lawrence Hill Jacobs, but they went full on Lex Luthor's stand down at the staring down at the city and behind his back, it's like damn, no were demon qualities.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I felt like that stuff was cut out, because when I listened to him talking interviews, he said, yeah, Joe Jackson was working with Harvard, but there was also some fun times in there too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He can't just be all bad, all rough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we did do some fun scenes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They can't just be all 24-7 ads with him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was, they had one scene where they was laughing over the montage.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was a good picture.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I felt like they were more scenes like that and they just cut them off and put them into montage.
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[SPEAKER_04]: somebody people who've been working on the same thing we've we leased in the pictures and they had a picture like Joe with his heart head off in the steel mill so he'd probably had some a good time with his buddies at the steel mill we don't know that's it's a possibility because but shit would he got home with we got we yeah he took us fire on to the
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[SPEAKER_02]: move that furniture out the way we don't get it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We don't get it now, you know, and then also we have to talk about his wife, Katherine, Jackson, by Neil Long.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Ninety-sweet home.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, don't hold back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't tell her that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't tell her that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't tell her that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And listen, I just said, my wife was out of faith in Neil Long.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We'll be first of, I don't
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[SPEAKER_03]: I listen, I, and here's the thing, I love me alone.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I was just like, I think she can act, so I felt like I was maybe shoot pull it out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just, again, it is very hard to separate.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, you had Angela Bassett, the first time playing cancer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm like, that's gonna be a hard act to follow.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We are in?
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[SPEAKER_03]: over.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was just like when you like I don't want to go to deep down the rabbit hole if we're going to be talking about comparing the movie's later but I just I just was I was Larry where I was like I don't know she's going to be able to follow this material especially with all the time that she had in the many series.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was hoping that she would try to make it her own.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, it seemed like they tried to get her to do that, but it was like, I don't know if the objective was, we needed to have them on two completely opposite into the spectrum because Joe was so evil, she had to like shrink into herself and that's what it felt like.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but I feel like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: part of that is, there's a such thing as striking into yourself, but there's also a quiet strength, and I don't know if they convey that well throughout the movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, she had scenes of both, you know, girl Michael and young Michael, and I do for this though that in my personal opinion, like I said before, the most powerful scene was
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[SPEAKER_04]: Wait, he was talking, he's like, it's not your fault.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But she felt so guilty because she knew it was like, the low key, it is my fault.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I should have protected you more than I did.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, okay, I'm not taking that away from her.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But it did feel like.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like what we have a supervillain, we need.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We need a damsel on the stress, like I just...
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I thought that he was going to go curl up too.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I thought he was going to go curl up too.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He said he was like, so you can tell how he has it all.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I can't answer it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I can get that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then he got to tell him, who was you talking to?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was just like, oh, my God, jump on the door.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Don't look.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, he didn't jump.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So he didn't hit it because she swallows.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then she stood up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he said up as he
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[SPEAKER_04]: Solid decade for a solid decade.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the crazy work about it's a crazy work I mean she was straight from having twins to have a Michael immediately after horrible Mike and Randy I mean more than like two years apart like in general.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just two years we know three whoa
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think they're all like stair steps though, aren't they?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like the toy is 50, like it's a 55, and then Marlon's 57, and then Michael's 58, and then really 60, or 61, and then J66.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Can you, at least she got a break with Janet?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Can you imagine that?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Kuf!
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you're not actually got support.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You got like, you got a roll over and look at Joe?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, that's a good old steel wheel, steel mill man right there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man
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[SPEAKER_04]: He can't do it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's like, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Go outside, do it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't like it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't like it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Don't stand on bricks so real quick, like you're kidding.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're like the Buddha's in the blocks, like on a pile dry, you're about to say, y'all.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They are the foot and pillow, over the head, them triple bunk beds.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't like it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh my God.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Sadly, we didn't like it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You don't talk about that, you don't talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She ain't you, you get all that sexy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you think about it, it should be.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Here we go, this can't Oh, God Trying to crack that coin I'm saying this will be Look, we've been hiding this deal Oh, it's a lot You gotta have a little foot Yes, I know Chopped for me Give me some look Please, oh Any foot The last time before we got to talk about
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[SPEAKER_04]: Young Michael Jackson Dislow some bitch.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This looks the same words.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, it's this lowly This little Negro Juliano Valdi, I think it's a V-A-L-A-V Valdi, it's I don't know why it's this word his last name be kicking you and kicking my ass It's not gonna be the fuck out like that's crazy
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[SPEAKER_04]: He, I think he did an excellent job as a little bit of an excellent, he'll get credit for it because he doesn't have it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He has time and moving, I can say, I can see the more time I see it the second time, but it still not enough time, but I mean, first of all, and this is first time acting too.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he does Michael Jackson pressure, but he does like the girl Michael And pressure is leading the moonwalk and stuff like that But he's like he had to go back and study You know Michael he had to like the mannerisms
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[SPEAKER_04]: He had the voice, the politeness, you know, the shyness tone.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, he just a cute little boy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I mean, it broke my heart.
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[SPEAKER_04]: See, Joe, what's his hands?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Wow, I was like, did you apologize to him out today?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, stay down.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, my second, it was like, it, it, it, it, it, it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I hope that was a one-take shot.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, come on, the second thing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I leave.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because it wouldn't even be just a regular answer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was one of them, Joe was like, He held his arm up.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's like, dangling for his life.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He had it again.
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[SPEAKER_04]: had him up in the air just who put it he couldn't run if you wanted to now and from the outs and slay who it was it was it was like you knew it as it was coming but the way called it because he's just like coming away but it's even normal right he said so my opinion that was no it did not see no it didn't come here that was it yeah it didn't come here yeah that didn't come here absolutely not it did not see normal not to hit that after um
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[SPEAKER_03]: Random brother number one or two.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just like Mikey.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We don't we don't need that right now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You ready?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Tito look horrified.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How do you know it was Tito?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, so it was all the kids part of it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, what does that say to the air?
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's basically to talk with a guy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Ben, like the bathroom down the whole night.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we are hypersonal and send the blocks, but look, us as black people we felt that We felt that and they also anybody who can take they build often once with motions Like putty tank is insane Corpus inside our tank that man is driven by pure hatred
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[SPEAKER_03]: He, I'm buckle and yanked that in one Swiss motion.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I say he is beating these kids ass on a schedule.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What are you doing?
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[SPEAKER_02]: What are you doing like that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, God.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm glad I'm a girl.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, listen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't start to think for my sister.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, I'm so sorry.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's been a day that my head head head head head head head, head head head, head, head the Swiss way.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Come out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just sit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm, I'm, I'm, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'd be grounded my dad up sometimes, but just like everybody, nobody is no pizza my family.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But shout at him for being a young softy when I was a kid.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was one time I got to.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was like, well, that's it for me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Basically, because he, he afforded my dad from Alabama.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So, it's the Southern, the Southern black man that we just, they got
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[SPEAKER_04]: And it just kind of took out the weight.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So he just came in there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Look, he would took my little mic back to his room and said, pick out one of my bell.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And saying, bro, what you mean?
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[SPEAKER_04]: And the host trucker, she bought a gift to that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I was like, I said, now, why don't you take us out there and get a switch?
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[SPEAKER_04]: He said, no, go on tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I want you to go in there and get one of the big, buck bell.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What's wrong with him?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why are they name on it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That he'd be a night.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He said they all got a name on it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But he did great at little course with him showcasing the dancing, the singing, the performance, every day was good with that kid.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I want to see more of him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He just was so cute in his head that young Michael Jackson asks us about him, but we're going to go back on him, but we're going to the side characters now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, the characters that was there, but you know, missiles get a movie, but they probably get as much time as you would like like an arrest Take this thing Gordon brother number one No, we're not talking but Because I did do anything count as side characters at this point.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Don't worry.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I have to have the own sex.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, the difference by definition he just says side characters that we didn't necessarily have that much time with
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[SPEAKER_04]: What he got in character first.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Not, but exactly.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, okay, you're right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You got in character first.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's Lorenz is a side character.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They are around a corner.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Literally.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They wouldn't even hear.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, like you said before, Lorenz tape brings his, um, what's his.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Gets it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I said, Gets it a little bit to bear more.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They were listening.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was given a Shanti-Ranomi video for just a second.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like he had to reel it back in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That we got this so my way to minute now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't feel like very groovy was I could check in people like that Hey Joe, I feel like I don't feel like you were I Why don't you focus on Gabriel kids here on time?
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[SPEAKER_03]: We got this over here It was it was the look What they did the little little zoom in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I said.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh It's good To the dog But You know what's funny going they actually found a picture very boy that pissed right suit
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure, I'm sure he had tons of them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Sarkly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But not that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You mean to me?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Go here, prom, go here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I said.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You mean to me?
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[SPEAKER_03]: He goes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Not him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, he's up for hate, he, he, he, he get, he get more love, don't stop out of there.
53:48.955 --> 53:57.352
[SPEAKER_03]: Mr. Crossover, no, Mr. Newsy himself, dude, does not cross me at the time of person who allow you to check your Joe Jackson involved with him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I, I, I said, he can probably just put the word in like, oh, yeah, all right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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[SPEAKER_04]: That is first to be where if he wasn't there for five minutes and then I think you know my goodness been neat up It just been like you know just saying he would stay here and see the whole album because we'll be able to move Everybody like oh he sounds so emotional.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's so emotional.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's so emotional.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All right Right so But I thought for the worst tape blockers like I said this is the the For like main biopics is like the third time break with been betrayed Because there is out of opportunity
54:56.883 --> 54:58.885
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yes, in temptation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: In temptation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, like, what?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, yeah, you right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There's bloody waves.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, Joe.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Listen, but I feel like they both did the same.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Boom.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Boom.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Sign up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Uh.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Poison's a kid.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Wait to get started.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Can you please?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Let Bully do your own.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's so difficult to understand.
55:24.534 --> 55:25.455
[SPEAKER_04]: It's equalization.
55:25.958 --> 55:37.513
[SPEAKER_03]: let's see, he pulled that one down from his diaphragm and he said that's the way he's saying like that, okay, he's telling a kid, well I just knocked out the kid he's like, he's cute, what does that mean?
55:37.553 --> 55:42.699
[SPEAKER_02]: I was just telling him what to mean, not saying the whole word, he's saying what?
55:44.462 --> 55:51.130
[SPEAKER_04]: He's saying, and we're taking those shorts, and all, and then he gave the little, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I wish you
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[SPEAKER_04]: You can ask me anything.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Can you imagine that?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, he, oh, again, he almost said it to the third.
55:58.181 --> 56:00.243
[SPEAKER_03]: He was like, you guys meet anything anytime.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And as he makes direct eye contact with Joe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, so they got to know how you would have your crying.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He will cry at the car.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's horrible.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's horrible.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not funny, guys.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's not funny at all.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But, hey, remember, he said, that's my blood-word device.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Not Barry Goldies.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yikes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You've got Gordon Green.
56:37.212 --> 56:37.773
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got Gordon Green.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You've got Gordon Green.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Then we also have Laura Harrier, who aka Susan Depass.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That baby from Spider-Man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She was a black classmate, too.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not like, I'm not this Don't do that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not
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[SPEAKER_04]: I said it for a bit, this is not there.
57:22.150 --> 57:25.713
[SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, most of the movies you did just want to say, right?
57:26.634 --> 57:27.816
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, good sense.
57:27.856 --> 57:34.603
[SPEAKER_03]: When I tell you, it was far too many people lurking in the shadows in this movie, not doing a thing.
57:34.763 --> 57:39.829
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, they probably cut some of her parts, but it just made me so mad.
57:39.869 --> 57:42.852
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, why would you all minimize Susan the pants like this?
57:43.439 --> 57:53.009
[SPEAKER_03]: And I realized now, watching it again, more than like this, she had more of it, more scenes that they got shocked up because they had to.
57:53.630 --> 58:01.979
[SPEAKER_03]: But the way y'all ended up ending it, she really was just back there trying her damn just to get a lung cancer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She said nothing.
58:05.363 --> 58:07.505
[SPEAKER_03]: She said like two lines in this movie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Have you seen what's in the face lately?
58:10.188 --> 58:12.771
[SPEAKER_02]: She looked like she, yeah, well.
58:32.140 --> 58:54.722
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh But has that I really do feel like that was my only beef with little rinse taste portrayal It felt like in order to give him more time in the movie y'all had him doing stuff that Susan the past clearly would have been doing yeah, and I'm not just saying that because of like the Jackson American dream movie, but that was her job
58:55.242 --> 58:56.328
[SPEAKER_04]: That was a childhood decision.
58:56.368 --> 58:59.687
[SPEAKER_03]: Barry Gordon is not escorting his baby onto the stage for no press conferences.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not happening.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's not as I was very good at doing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not a bad one, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it's a season, it
59:32.350 --> 59:34.893
[SPEAKER_03]: He would not have had them out there at the fair.
59:35.594 --> 59:44.104
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like jumping off a hay bales Not exactly after you do the Apollo.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna go do you know The pin sock and mark no come on now Okay, that's just be so for real talk showy
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I obviously am.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna be better.
01:00:01.428 --> 01:00:15.030
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I can see that We had Kendrick's Samson play Quincy Jones nascent from insecure All as he had a lot could he had a lot
01:00:15.517 --> 01:00:39.432
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that part that that was like that that's one of the parts that really made me make so I'm like Is it feasible that oh he just knew Quincy Jones and they hooked up because both in the movie the music industry Sure, but is it more logical for you to tell us that he Became reacquain with him when the set of the ways yes
01:00:40.441 --> 01:00:45.689
[SPEAKER_04]: because they had a scene instead of 50, because they were driving up to 2 or 54.
01:00:46.350 --> 01:00:51.358
[SPEAKER_04]: And they was going there, we just got the whole party scene cut, we'll get to that.
01:00:51.378 --> 01:00:53.541
[SPEAKER_03]: And you know who fought that, this whole thing is?
01:00:54.082 --> 01:01:03.677
[SPEAKER_03]: It's very good, it's because you had not, if you had put that old lady in that role for that child and the whiz back in the day, we wouldn't be here right now.
01:01:04.639 --> 01:01:07.343
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, shots fired.
01:01:08.504 --> 01:01:35.845
[SPEAKER_03]: She was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves, she was in there before the waves
01:01:37.748 --> 01:01:41.351
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not telling you what number the weirds is the oldest that she looks.
01:01:41.371 --> 01:01:43.794
[SPEAKER_02]: She looked younger now than she did in the wind.
01:01:43.814 --> 01:01:44.895
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't remember.
01:01:44.915 --> 01:01:45.495
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no.
01:01:45.535 --> 01:01:45.695
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
01:01:45.795 --> 01:01:47.417
[SPEAKER_03]: I might say I don't agree as she looked older.
01:01:47.437 --> 01:01:47.917
[SPEAKER_03]: She looked down.
01:01:48.157 --> 01:01:53.663
[SPEAKER_03]: But I think that then trying so hard to make her make us believe she was young.
01:01:53.703 --> 01:01:55.164
[SPEAKER_03]: Made it look like she was older.
01:01:55.244 --> 01:01:58.006
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like Angela Bassett being a young single mom and me at the Browns.
01:01:58.327 --> 01:01:59.848
[SPEAKER_03]: Be so fucking for real.
01:01:59.988 --> 01:02:00.369
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
01:02:00.989 --> 01:02:01.269
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
01:02:02.451 --> 01:02:03.592
[SPEAKER_03]: Something.
01:02:03.612 --> 01:02:05.173
[SPEAKER_03]: Your head.
01:02:06.571 --> 01:02:16.607
[SPEAKER_03]: Trying to make trying to fit her into the mole of being is like young sheep is school teacher when it should have been like a 16 year old is the reason why I'm like, that's how we got here.
01:02:16.628 --> 01:02:23.459
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I know, when we're gonna get to that because the first time we're gonna go to I'm telling the Darrell Jones who plays Bill Bray.
01:02:25.101 --> 01:02:28.848
[SPEAKER_03]: You mean John Dive at the end of the best?
01:02:28.868 --> 01:02:28.928
[SPEAKER_03]: Bo!
01:02:29.008 --> 01:02:31.532
[SPEAKER_03]: They had him lurking in the shadows, so!
01:02:32.356 --> 01:02:35.901
[SPEAKER_02]: I, he was at a forefront of the shadows, so, not in the back.
01:02:35.921 --> 01:02:46.978
[SPEAKER_04]: This is the one thing about this movie that I've prepped, and once again, I've all, I say a lot of reviews a lot, okay, and of course they say, well, they say 8% and 9% of the same thing, you know what I'm saying?
01:02:47.198 --> 01:02:53.908
[SPEAKER_04]: It was a good movie, it was a surface level, so I'm like, but, one thing this movie does not do is get, give credit with the days they got right.
01:02:54.378 --> 01:02:56.340
[SPEAKER_03]: I do think they got Bill right this time.
01:02:56.480 --> 01:03:03.588
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, people don't feel like, I'm like, Bill was in the American dream, but he was, he was, he was, he was, he was the proffes.
01:03:04.189 --> 01:03:05.230
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
01:03:05.250 --> 01:03:06.652
[SPEAKER_02]: He's the old dark dude, right?
01:03:06.672 --> 01:03:07.613
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:03:07.633 --> 01:03:08.894
[SPEAKER_03]: I got the water dumped on his head.
01:03:08.994 --> 01:03:10.676
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it like damn cheese.
01:03:10.696 --> 01:03:12.218
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so yeah, that's Bill.
01:03:12.578 --> 01:03:16.523
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, and he, and he just, when you see the monster, she just, he just, he says dare.
01:03:17.043 --> 01:03:21.028
[SPEAKER_03]: Honestly, prox to him for sticking around with him, bad ass kid.
01:03:21.048 --> 01:03:21.808
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, boy.
01:03:21.828 --> 01:03:22.309
[SPEAKER_03]: Out of quit.
01:03:23.453 --> 01:03:24.816
[SPEAKER_03]: I have to put the yolk on your head.
01:03:25.437 --> 01:03:26.880
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll toss you on the back of your head.
01:03:26.900 --> 01:03:27.962
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll toss you on the back of your head.
01:03:27.982 --> 01:03:29.204
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll toss you on the back of your head.
01:03:29.224 --> 01:03:30.547
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll toss you on the back of your head.
01:03:30.567 --> 01:03:31.368
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll toss you on the back of your head.
01:03:31.389 --> 01:03:32.851
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll toss you on the back of your head.
01:03:32.871 --> 01:03:34.314
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll toss you on the back of your head.
01:03:34.334 --> 01:03:35.156
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll toss you on the back of your head.
01:03:35.176 --> 01:03:36.318
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll toss you on the back of your head.
01:03:36.338 --> 01:03:37.320
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll toss you on the back of your head.
01:03:37.340 --> 01:03:38.643
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll toss you on the back of your head.
01:03:38.663 --> 01:03:41.528
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll toss you on the back of your head.
01:03:41.729 --> 01:03:43.352
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll toss you on the back of your head.
01:03:43.372 --> 01:03:44.955
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll toss you on the back of your head.
01:03:45.188 --> 01:03:50.293
[SPEAKER_04]: But I did like the interest because people don't really know that Bill been there since the Jackson five days.
01:03:50.613 --> 01:03:51.314
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:03:51.374 --> 01:03:56.739
[SPEAKER_03]: So from to be there from what the 70s all way down to the 90s is crazy.
01:03:56.759 --> 01:03:56.939
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
01:03:57.319 --> 01:04:02.244
[SPEAKER_04]: And with people know because of which Bill was an ex police officer.
01:04:02.924 --> 01:04:04.586
[SPEAKER_04]: And he was security for Motel.
01:04:05.166 --> 01:04:06.948
[SPEAKER_03]: OK. And that's how he got it.
01:04:07.008 --> 01:04:09.951
[SPEAKER_04]: And then so Joe was just like, oh, you know.
01:04:10.711 --> 01:04:13.914
[SPEAKER_04]: We need to secure it.
01:04:14.234 --> 01:04:14.875
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
01:04:15.226 --> 01:04:28.396
[SPEAKER_04]: Later in life, when Mike came back to the States, and he heard that the other bill this security at Motown, he trusted him because the the bills of our own security guards bill used to just get from Motown also.
01:04:28.617 --> 01:04:29.499
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay, okay.
01:04:29.519 --> 01:04:32.205
[SPEAKER_04]: And then he was just like, okay, because I ain't just trusted.
01:04:32.945 --> 01:04:35.049
[SPEAKER_04]: anybody, you know, for me and my kids.
01:04:35.730 --> 01:04:37.634
[SPEAKER_04]: And you used to do something at won't have.
01:04:37.874 --> 01:04:38.936
[SPEAKER_03]: They trust you.
01:04:38.996 --> 01:04:39.337
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:04:39.698 --> 01:04:43.425
[SPEAKER_03]: Listen, that man wasn't around for so long by the time he loved Michael had to protect him.
01:04:43.685 --> 01:04:43.986
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
01:04:44.246 --> 01:04:47.352
[SPEAKER_03]: Because he had to be white with 70.
01:04:47.973 --> 01:04:51.399
[SPEAKER_03]: He had to be very old because he died in old five.
01:04:51.419 --> 01:04:52.321
[SPEAKER_04]: He died just Friday.
01:04:52.341 --> 01:04:53.383
[SPEAKER_04]: He was maybe 80 years old.
01:04:53.363 --> 01:05:00.839
[SPEAKER_03]: He was like 80, so which means if that was the 90s, he was 60 something years old, who is he protected?
01:05:00.859 --> 01:05:07.493
[SPEAKER_02]: He retired, I think he retired at like 69 or 65, like in his 60s even in the 60s.
01:05:08.255 --> 01:05:11.281
[SPEAKER_03]: I just feel like that's like LeBron age of security.
01:05:11.822 --> 01:05:12.604
[SPEAKER_03]: Why are you?
01:05:13.647 --> 01:05:18.172
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what are you going to do with the most humbling person in the world listen?
01:05:18.272 --> 01:05:26.682
[SPEAKER_04]: What are you going to build what he messed up in the California raisins in the in the world please, bro Chloe Did you guys see that water?
01:05:26.803 --> 01:05:40.819
[SPEAKER_04]: It was like Okay Come on man But I was glad that they they Instruction of the cat actually ain't trying to focus I said that he said that
01:05:41.407 --> 01:06:07.633
[SPEAKER_04]: his day with your father was so good that he was just naturally being the right him on set protecting him he was like yo he he he he he he once a giant Logan and it was just like you got a right him one lies because he was going to be just like he was in the american dream just to buy the ground yeah he's like no you got a right him one lies okay and it was like so he was his fault so with his fault we got I'm gonna do the tour I'm gonna do it huh you see a lot of
01:06:08.609 --> 01:06:35.359
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's that's why we got the line between Mike and Bill's about I'ma do a tour as Never never No, but you know it's that dynamic of them at a tour store You know him called a jokeer and it's been basically being the Sarah get father to him when Joe was it You know, we're him and Joe won't click When did they click
01:06:36.031 --> 01:06:44.803
[SPEAKER_04]: So then with that being said now my next thing was like okay, so those are the side characters But now the ones that were just underutilized and they were just there.
01:06:45.083 --> 01:06:58.101
[SPEAKER_03]: The Jackson brothers in the toy Brad It was it was the toy it was the toy it only because I knew it was her because she had that headband on Then it had been on and then it was Michael and who all over there because who who?
01:06:58.482 --> 01:06:59.283
[SPEAKER_03]: Who are these people?
01:06:59.563 --> 01:07:00.765
[SPEAKER_04]: I put it down on the square drop.
01:07:01.005 --> 01:07:03.068
[SPEAKER_04]: It was my gonna focus on five of the four niggas
01:07:05.883 --> 01:07:26.119
[SPEAKER_03]: And also, and honestly, as much as we joke, that low-key may be mad, because even though this is a Michael Jackson movie, they still his brothers There, you know, good damn what you get for the budget No Stop, I wouldn't have at least liked to know who was who, like, y'all, that was not Istanbul-ish
01:07:27.128 --> 01:07:34.343
[SPEAKER_02]: Man, I wish they wouldn't at least establish who, so because like, when that's my basketball, and then when they said, they mean, you wouldn't, you wouldn't approve.
01:07:34.724 --> 01:07:39.815
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I'm like, who, I need to know who to call an asshole for playing ball and jeans.
01:07:39.835 --> 01:07:42.521
[SPEAKER_04]: That was a joke, man.
01:07:42.541 --> 01:07:44.665
[SPEAKER_03]: And, and as it was jeans, I bet.
01:07:46.248 --> 01:07:53.138
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because like I said, I know that Ed is I know who was playing who and then but we He was like I got to go and she don't hazel Mike.
01:07:53.158 --> 01:07:54.981
[SPEAKER_04]: I can't do like that.
01:07:55.622 --> 01:08:00.328
[SPEAKER_03]: But no, but like they I really feel like that was a choice.
01:08:00.589 --> 01:08:06.197
[SPEAKER_03]: That's one of the choices we had in here for y'all not to actually take the time to introduce the brothers.
01:08:07.105 --> 01:08:12.733
[SPEAKER_03]: And you and because I'm just told different people for each brother and still not tell us who they work that's crazy.
01:08:12.933 --> 01:08:13.634
[SPEAKER_04]: Diabolical.
01:08:14.335 --> 01:08:26.312
[SPEAKER_04]: And I once again, once again, I don't know because they were show see, and this is what this was about him, because they actually got to because the actors were playing Jackie Jackson, he going right here like he did so.
01:08:26.832 --> 01:08:27.854
[SPEAKER_04]: Can't please.
01:08:27.874 --> 01:08:31.519
[SPEAKER_04]: So they showed, they showed a clip of them.
01:08:31.539 --> 01:08:33.822
[SPEAKER_04]: We rehearsing of.
01:08:34.240 --> 01:08:37.443
[SPEAKER_04]: the Triumph Tour, the them in the studio.
01:08:38.003 --> 01:08:48.372
[SPEAKER_04]: And eating after the exact opposite they had in the picture, well, I had the ratio though, and the rainbow had, and then, you know, my, and the turquoise heroes, I was like, oh, we want to get there, y'all cut that.
01:08:48.813 --> 01:08:53.897
[SPEAKER_02]: I got said, my, okay, oh, whoa, whoa, slow down, slow down.
01:08:53.917 --> 01:08:54.077
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
01:08:54.177 --> 01:08:55.638
[SPEAKER_02]: What song would they be recording?
01:08:56.559 --> 01:08:57.780
[SPEAKER_02]: And the studio that we need to see.
01:08:58.661 --> 01:09:01.123
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just, it's just, I've just, it's just a brother.
01:09:01.183 --> 01:09:02.244
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it's just, I'm sorry.
01:09:02.264 --> 01:09:03.285
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, don't go through that.
01:09:04.632 --> 01:09:05.413
[SPEAKER_04]: Don't do that.
01:09:06.054 --> 01:09:09.279
[SPEAKER_04]: It's probably, you know, some like, hard break, I'll tell you something like that.
01:09:09.299 --> 01:09:12.364
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well, I didn't, you know, I didn't cut it because there's no Randy.
01:09:13.726 --> 01:09:17.012
[SPEAKER_02]: It really, it's all saying like, why are you in a real life?
01:09:17.092 --> 01:09:18.915
[SPEAKER_02]: Why even do the same in the first place if you know.
01:09:20.557 --> 01:09:22.240
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe they thought Randy would come around.
01:09:22.280 --> 01:09:24.363
[SPEAKER_03]: They probably was like, he not fit in to come around.
01:09:24.403 --> 01:09:25.605
[SPEAKER_03]: So we might as well do something else.
01:09:25.745 --> 01:09:27.388
[SPEAKER_02]: He's trying to use my brother.
01:09:28.370 --> 01:09:31.254
[SPEAKER_02]: You use my brother because no, I'm not supporting you.
01:09:31.274 --> 01:09:31.855
[SPEAKER_02]: What are you talking about?
01:09:32.341 --> 01:09:36.606
[SPEAKER_03]: He said, and I'm gonna see my, what would he be?
01:09:36.627 --> 01:09:36.947
[SPEAKER_03]: Step nephew.
01:09:36.967 --> 01:09:37.728
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've got a traffic circle, no, but I do think it is a bit egregious that Sean didn't take the time to tell us which brother was which like eventually we like oh for sure that's Tito he got the hat, okay and we they on stage I know if it's not Tito with the guitar we got Germano over here with the bass and I'm going to presume that the tallest one is Jackie because y'all was out here Marlene if it's for some reason it was 5-10
01:10:27.809 --> 01:10:31.674
[SPEAKER_03]: Really and I'm like they'd like a year apart.
01:10:31.774 --> 01:10:37.061
[SPEAKER_03]: Why is he 510 and he looked 15 and Michael still look 11.
01:10:37.181 --> 01:10:37.882
[SPEAKER_03]: What are we doing?
01:10:38.142 --> 01:10:42.247
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so it was just yeah, that was one of the choices.
01:10:43.048 --> 01:10:48.335
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and didn't have Ruby or Janet along with ready to be in the movie.
01:10:48.435 --> 01:10:50.137
[SPEAKER_04]: Those are the three Jackson kids that was missing.
01:10:50.698 --> 01:10:54.222
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I knew from jump there Randy and Janet was like, fuck you all.
01:10:54.286 --> 01:10:56.369
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know really didn't want to be involved.
01:10:56.389 --> 01:10:57.190
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, neither did I.
01:10:57.711 --> 01:10:59.854
[SPEAKER_04]: And I wasn't getting to be fair with what you did.
01:10:59.874 --> 01:11:01.256
[SPEAKER_03]: She said y'all were pacinipied in there?
01:11:01.957 --> 01:11:05.141
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm out.
01:11:05.161 --> 01:11:10.869
[SPEAKER_04]: I felt just don't like, I really don't know because it's not what I never got in.
01:11:11.030 --> 01:11:11.330
[SPEAKER_04]: I can't.
01:11:11.350 --> 01:11:11.971
[SPEAKER_04]: This is their brother.
01:11:11.991 --> 01:11:13.613
[SPEAKER_04]: I know they're very protective of him.
01:11:13.633 --> 01:11:14.134
[SPEAKER_04]: But.
01:11:15.886 --> 01:11:21.752
[SPEAKER_04]: I still felt like if we got all participation right I don't know if you would see much of Ruby anywhere.
01:11:21.772 --> 01:11:25.135
[SPEAKER_03]: No, Ruby would have maybe been like birdie.
01:11:26.456 --> 01:11:26.637
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:11:26.657 --> 01:11:38.568
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like she would have been in them scenes in the beginning where she's making their costumes for when they were supposed to be able to check, and she and they're doing little dance moves and stuff with a toilet.
01:11:38.588 --> 01:11:41.331
[SPEAKER_03]: That probably would have been like more suited for a Ruby.
01:11:42.132 --> 01:11:44.374
[SPEAKER_03]: She might have been around dip at that part.
01:11:44.354 --> 01:11:54.004
[SPEAKER_03]: but besides like being backstage with them when they were on tour or doing a show or something, she wouldn't have really had much of a presence anyway because she was a girl.
01:11:54.825 --> 01:12:07.758
[SPEAKER_03]: But to like not have Janet or Randy felt like a glaring omission because of when you started the movie and because of where you ended the movie.
01:12:07.918 --> 01:12:08.539
[SPEAKER_04]: Correct.
01:12:08.890 --> 01:12:17.987
[SPEAKER_03]: You want to start the movie in 66 in Janet and she and I pregnant with Janet and you're gonna end the movie on the final night of the victory What the bongo's mind you and ain't no Randy?
01:12:18.007 --> 01:12:19.910
[SPEAKER_03]: That's very weird is weird.
01:12:19.931 --> 01:12:21.433
[SPEAKER_04]: It's it's very weird.
01:12:21.493 --> 01:12:25.060
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean not weird on their part They don't want to be a part of it cool, but like
01:12:25.040 --> 01:12:33.132
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just, it's just, it's just to see it because honestly, it ain't like we, we would've got Janet and we're gonna mention like that.
01:12:33.172 --> 01:12:35.715
[SPEAKER_04]: No, who, who probably could talk about it.
01:12:35.735 --> 01:12:38.780
[SPEAKER_04]: Honestly, if Janet was in a movie, she wouldn't play the same role or toy date.
01:12:39.341 --> 01:12:39.901
[SPEAKER_04]: Just there.
01:12:39.921 --> 01:12:45.449
[SPEAKER_03]: This there, she'd just been around and she, or she would've got a mention like she did in American Dream.
01:12:45.750 --> 01:12:45.850
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:12:45.870 --> 01:12:48.213
[SPEAKER_03]: It was just like, oh, we're at a kid though, Janet.
01:12:48.233 --> 01:12:50.036
[SPEAKER_03]: She's all filming her TV show.
01:12:50.316 --> 01:12:50.777
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:12:50.757 --> 01:13:09.076
[SPEAKER_03]: They Mike was in a studio and you know, they didn't they never showed her there either The only thing I can see is the only thing I can see in Janet doing in the movie is play twist Yes, yes, yes, it's one of the Michael and both yeah You could have sent her downstairs and get the ice cream all of the Negroes.
01:13:09.237 --> 01:13:12.861
[SPEAKER_04]: I said You're playing on my basketball court.
01:13:12.981 --> 01:13:14.422
[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely because I don't know that right now.
01:13:14.923 --> 01:13:15.784
[SPEAKER_04]: This my house.
01:13:17.005 --> 01:13:17.085
[UNKNOWN]: Okay
01:13:17.690 --> 01:13:36.188
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's the thing I see when and if he was like, you mean to tell me Joe was threatening to be Michael that and his house It's crazy work if I don't you don't know Joe's having some issues Mike bought back the bought him hurts it renovated
01:13:36.607 --> 01:13:39.530
[SPEAKER_04]: and change it up and put a second level on, on, on, on, on, hey, of hers.
01:13:39.811 --> 01:13:41.392
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, I'm gonna tell you this.
01:13:41.412 --> 01:13:54.427
[SPEAKER_03]: For the people who was online, trying to convince everyone else that it is a grievous, that he couldn't have managed money because he was a still-mail worker and kept them a float from Gary to LA.
01:13:55.988 --> 01:13:57.630
[SPEAKER_03]: Is it Doper dog food you smoking?
01:13:57.650 --> 01:13:59.472
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you know how stupid you sound?
01:13:59.492 --> 01:14:00.193
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:14:00.213 --> 01:14:00.994
[SPEAKER_03]: Did I ask?
01:14:01.868 --> 01:14:29.580
[SPEAKER_03]: And if, if I hit all the holl and I hurt your feelings, oh, well, oh, well, you mean to tell me that makes sense that, oh, this, this, this one income family from a still meal in Indiana, you feel like that somehow the money management skills from that somehow translates to taking care of an actual estate and all my children's affairs.
01:14:30.961 --> 01:14:31.982
[SPEAKER_03]: How does that work?
01:14:32.002 --> 01:14:37.308
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, do you not know how many people go broke because they hired a family instead of an actual professional?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, but that's why we had a hammer and stash tape commercials because he didn't spit up all his money because he wanted to hire I boob was his brother You know how to run no.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't remember who it is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And by exactly how I want to pay roll That man, you know what he was doing?
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[SPEAKER_03]: In that case I will give you you doing the best you can with what you got and then you make bad financial decisions Don't know how to rebound for them.
01:15:02.750 --> 01:15:04.552
[SPEAKER_03]: Why is that so difficult for you to understand?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah Like that was I see that I said I know you fucking like Yep, it might be just like the man who couldn't stop shooting with the club long enough for him to rebound some finances from the steel mill Had made great financial decisions All right Make great financial decisions
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sit with, say it again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He didn't make great right financial decisions.
01:15:29.667 --> 01:15:30.147
[SPEAKER_02]: You shot it up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was like, if I do just a couple more, I know one of them is a superstar.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It worked.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then if you think about that, he had to wait to, he did all of that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You made all of them kids, and it was in the last three.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What?
01:15:49.329 --> 01:15:50.810
[SPEAKER_04]: She squeezed out all of them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Look, look, look, I'll just say this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, that's not what I've been doing, you know, at one point in the 80s, yeah, that's right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying that he couldn't, but I'm like the one who is the superstar, the one who's had the most besides Michael we had the most long journey is the youngest and the one who plays all the instruments right so the songs.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's the one between the two of them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's crazy.
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