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I've been reading this book on Anti
Gravity. I can't put it down.
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Thanks, Ellie. Why don't eggs
till jokes? Why, they'd crack each
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other up. Those are some of
our really good jokes. Did you hear
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the rumor about butter? What?
Well, I'm not gonna spread it.
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I don't know what a rumor eyeball
get it, you little rascal. Those
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kids are great. Why can't it
Noseb twelve inches long? Why too,
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because then it'd be welcome back,
true believers, to my favorite podcast.
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My favorite podcast, and I'm sure
it's your favorite podcast, to much a
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do about nerding, a brother sister
nerdcast discusses everything fro a mominous origins to
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jokes that kill. But of course
it is I player, one your master
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of ceremonies, and always by my
side is my sensational sidekick, the girl
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wonder herself of my player. To
my little sister, cell it say a
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load of NERD nation, cell.
What's up, guys, and what are
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we talking about? This Week?
We're going to be talking about our favorite
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comic book stories. A lot of
these are actually origins, which is pretty
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cool. I know the two big
ones that we're going to do. Are
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going to be origins stories. We
are sorry, we do apologize. We
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did record this episode in full length, but it all got erased. Wo
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Wo, WOMP, WOMP, said
trumpet. But show must go on and
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since we said we're going to give
it to you, we're going to give
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you one story a piece, and
then I'm going to give you a bunch
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of titles that you can go through
and research on your on your own.
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This is basically for new comic book
fans, Old Comic Book fans that might
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have fallen out of reading comic books, or even if you still do,
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maybe it'll remind you to go back
and read that title. This is for
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you guys. This is to broaden
your horizon. Yeah, give you,
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give you something to do in this
in this time where we have not a
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whole lot to do. So,
yeah, I mean more people are going
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back to work, but hey,
instead of watching tiger king for the third
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time or watching staircase, maybe you
should pick up a book, even if
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it's comic book. Yeah, I
mean, just because it has pictures doesn't
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mean it's not good. And it's, Joe said in our previous episode,
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some of the greatest literature to come
out of the United States. Our comic
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books. Yep, Yep, I
will stand by that one hunderd percent and
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I agree, like for sure.
Yeah, so, Joe, how is
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your week? Weeks been pretty good
since we actually last recorded like four days
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ago, not even that long as
no, three days ago we did a
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double header and, like I said, half of that fucking double header was
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lost into the ether. We didn't
Save, or I think it was more
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of a computer issue. Yes,
we think, crash halfway through and and
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didn't save. So under fortunately that's
our bad. Well, some good content,
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but again, yeah, it's our
bad. My bed, all the
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bed. Yeah. So, yeah, it's been good. It's been a
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good looking forward to a lot of
work actually this next week. Heck,
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yeah, dude, but dude.
And so how is yours? Pretty good.
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Staying pretty busy with the getting ready
of the moving out of the house
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situation. So that's awesome. Looking
for a new place to live and nothing
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really different from there. So,
yeah, Nice, good, heck,
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yeah, all right, sweet.
So, as always, when we discuss
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movies, books, comic books,
TV shows, spoiler warning is in effect
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for this. If you want,
we can definitely when Selena brings up her
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story, if you don't want spoilers, pause it, go get the book,
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read it, Boom, love it
and then come back and see what
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we have to say about it.
But yeah, without further without much ado,
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I see what she did there.
So what's your what's your story that
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you would recommend that all of our
listeners read? So mine is going to
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be the killing joke, which probably
not a surprise to a lot of you,
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since a lot of you guys know
that I am a huge Batman Fan.
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This book was published in March of
one thousand nine hundred and eighty eight
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by DC comics. It was created
by Alan Moore, Brian Bolland and John
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Higgins. So Quick Synopsis. We're
not trying to get to two into this
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because I definitely want you guys to
read this. It is a graphic novel,
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so it's just a one shot.
Is just one book. You don't
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have to pick up a whole series. But it is basically an origin story
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of the joker. It's not the
origin story because he doesn't have a canonical
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origin story, but we follow an
engineer who worked at a chemical plant called
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Axis. He picks up being a
standup comedian to support his wife after he
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leaves the chemical plant, he is
recruitered by a bunch of goons to rub
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the playing card factory next to the
chemical plant that he used to work at.
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So he dons the Red Hood at
their request. Of course, Batman
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comes in to save the day.
The joker. In an attempt to run
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away from Batman the dark night,
he jumps into a waste pool and comes
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out as the bleached Ruby, red
lips, green hair joker that we know
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and the Crown Prince of gray.
Yeah, he comes out as the joker
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that we all know and love.
Today, and before he commits this crime,
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he learns that his pregnant wife and
unborn child were not murdered, but
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killed in a household accident, and
that kind of causes the snap, you
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know, like the the what am
I doing? Not The FANO snap.
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No, no, snap inside his
brain. Yes, so he snaps.
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He becomes, you know, the
the the joker that we love, and
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Tortures Commissioner Gordon, shoots Barbara Gordon
and causes her paralysis. So she becomes
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the Oracle, as opposed to bat
girl, which we've all known that she
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she had become. And so,
of course, Batman subdues the joker in
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this and they have a kind of
beautiful moment at the end of the book.
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So I know that that we didn't
want to really talk about the ending
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of these books because we want you
guys to go read them, but with
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this one I think that we have
to kind of discuss the end. Yeah,
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I think the best part about this, I mean, it's a great
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story all around, but I think
the best part about this store right is
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the end, in the fact that
the forever brooding, the always solemn,
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the always somber Batman not just laughs, he chuckles. Yeah, yeah,
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he he definitely chuckles to himself.
So Joker tells him a joke about two
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inmates trying to escape and insane asylum, and Batman laughs at the punch line
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of his joke and then I think
in that moment you find out that Batman
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in the joker are one in the
same kind of he's just as insane in
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a way as the joker, but
hey, they handle it in a different
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way. If yes, yes,
as joker kind of just embraces the insanity
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and just goes straight towards chaos and
anarchy, Batman actually still believes in law
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and order and and the good people
and that these people need to be off
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the streets. But I think he
also knows that he is one in the
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same of these two, the two
sides of the same coin, right,
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right, right face. Oh so
that's kind of why I love this story
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so much, is because you kind
of see that Batman is not necessarily the
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good guy. He could easily have
just become the bad guy after watching his
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parents be be murdered in front of
him so well, and like I've brought
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this up before, I mean in
the the daredevil Netflix series, when he's
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fighting the punisher, in the punishers
like you know, you're one bad day
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away from being me, right right, were not all that different. You're
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not necessarily the good guy. And
and Batman does he's he tries to bring
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him to the light. He's like
hey man, we can work through this
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together, and the joker responds with
it's too late for that. It's far
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too late for that. So so
it's a good, interesting take on the
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relationship between Batman and the joker,
because everybody knows who the joker is and
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he knows that. That's that's definitely
Batman's catalyst. You know what I mean?
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That's like his ultimate bad guy that
he faces in a lot of ways.
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Yeah, yeah, he's the exact
opposite of Batman, but at the
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same time he's exactly the same.
Yeah, which I think it's beautifully written,
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and I think when they invented the
joker and when they developed into the
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joke, the joker into what he
was so you know, ultimately going to
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be, I I think he was
a stroke of genius, because they are
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one in the same. Also,
the reason I love this story too is
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you're like, Oh shit, it's
finally joker's origin, and then at the
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end he's like, yeah, I
could have happened that way. Yeah,
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this is he's very ambiguous with if
that was the true way, and then
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they kind of play on that in
the dark night with heath ledgers joker telling
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the two different stories of you want
to know how I got these scars right?
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Right, so nobody actually and then
that's why I said at the beginning
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of this like this is a origin
story. This is not the origin story,
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because nobody actually knows how the joker
came to be and and all of
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that good stuff. But yeah,
one hundred percent agree with you on that
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that it's interesting because we don't know
and it's so much the joker. It's
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the joker to tell you a lie
get you to believe it. Just kidding,
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Kiddoh, not sure if that's how
I remember it. Yep, and
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and, and that's why I love
the story. So, if you guys
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have the opportunity, download it or
go to your local comic book I was
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gonna say support your local call,
support local commerce. Guys, go to
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your local comic bookshop, pick this
book up. It's decently old and they've
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been in print for long enough it's
not going to be all that expensive and
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even if you find yourself a used
copy, it's probably only going to be
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like five, six bucks. Right, right, an, even if you're
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not a Batman Fan, it's a
fucking fund and, like I said,
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it is just good literature. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, so, yeah,
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the killing jokes probably my favorite comic
the story. What do you got
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for us? Well, I was
going to say what's your favorite? You
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tell me a joke. What's my
holier joke? Well, tell me a
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killing joke. What kind of chocolate? What is the only kind of chocolate
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you can take on a plane?
Oh Shit, Alex said this last night.
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Yeah, I forgot. What is
it? Plane Chocolate, plane chuck?
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That's stupid. That's why I think
he made that up. I honestly
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think he made that even if he
did, that's genius. It's so good,
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so good. Okay, cool,
yeah, that's it. That that's
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a great that, that's I'm not
just saying that. That's a great fucking
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story. Now, absolutely, for
sure, for sure, go. Yeah.
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So I'm going to get into mine
right now and, like I said,
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it's going to be another origin story, in an origin story to a
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character who didn't have an origin,
a definite origin, for the long as
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time. I am talking about none
other than the knucklehead himself, that five
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foot five, three hundred and forty
five, you beautiful bitch, you beautiful
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hairy bitch, the man they called
the Wolverine. Wolverine origin. Wolverine origin
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was a six part origin story and
it was published from November two thousand and
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one, two March two thousand and
two. And just a little background on
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this. Like I said, wolverines
origin had never really fully been explained.
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Every time something would come out about
where he comes from, came from,
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how he came about, it always
ended up being like memory implants from department
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h and the weapon x program so
we never really knew, which was really
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cool. It was like really that
ambiguous. I don't know who I used
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to be right and therefore I don't
know if I deserve your love or your
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friendship and all this stuff. I
kind of just want to go brood and
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be sad in the corner, but
also kick ass, but also I love
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you, guys who mutch. So
I'm going to yes, I'M gonna go
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fight for you, but but you. So in Wolverine Origins, it takes
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a play. It takes place around
it's eighteen sites, late nineteen century in
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Canada. I don't I don't know. They don't remember the exact dates,
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but it centers around the Howlett family
and we find out that wolverines original name
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was James Howlett and he was the
youngest son, the youngest sickly son,
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of a prominent landowner in Canada and
and which is really funny because he has
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the healing factor and he was always
sickly and never could really go outside.
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But when he was able to go
outside he went outside with the maid's daughter
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Rose, who was redheaded. Hmm, I wonder where his infatuation came from.
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Yeah, right, weird. And
he would play also with the groundkeepers
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son, dog, I think his
name was dog huh, and they would
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go play and they would always have
a good time. They were really good
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friends. But dog was a little
cruel. He was like that kid that
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would like tear the wings off flies
and like the other kids are looking him
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like, what are you dissecting rabbits? Yeah, just he's a weird,
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weird fucking dude. But then you're
introduced to the rest of the Howett family.
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I think he's got like three older
siblings, maybe one or two,
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I don't remember, and then a
mom and dad. And then the groundskeeper
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himself is named Logan and looks a
lot like the Wolverine we know today.
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Also has a drinking problem. They
kind of allude to an affair with wolverines
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mom and the groundskeeper. This is
why overine looks the way he does.
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So the kids are playing, the
groundskeeper's son breaks James Howlett's dog's neck,
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oh, on purpose, and of
course James Fucking flips out, so does
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rose. Mr Howett, Wolverines Dad
fires the groundskeeper on the spot. groundskeeper
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goes away like he like beats the
kid first and then he goes and gets
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fucking drunk. Well, he goes, gets drunk, grabs a shotgun,
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comes back and starts to murder the
entire fucking household. Oh well, Wolverine,
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Young Wolverine, seeing this, obviously
flips out, pops his bone,
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claws guts the guts the groundskeeper in
front of the kid, slashes the kid's
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face when he tries to protect his
dad. And then young James Howlett goes
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to his actually his grandfather, who's
like this mean Crotchfield Fuck, and he
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tells him. He's like, you're
going to have to abandon my name,
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get out of here, go,
and so they do. Rose and young
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James Howlett go into the fucking Canadian
Tundra. They end up going to a
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mining facility, a mining camp,
and James at this point is a very
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passive, timid, Meek Person.
The only person he he's ever loved up
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into this point really is rose.
I think rose is a little bit older
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than him too. One thing leads
to another, like there's a brawl at
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one point. I don't want to
give too much way, but there's like
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a brawl at one point, and
Wolverine accidentally kills rose with his bone claws.
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Yes, HMM, and so he
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with these fucking this pack of wolves, and that's how he gets like his
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animal side. But there. I
mean there's a lot more to go to
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this this there's a hell of a
lot more. Please go pick this up.
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You can pick it up. I
have both the six actual individual comic
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books that have never been opened.
I have the hardback graphic or trade paperback
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and the softback trade paperback that I
actually read. So, yes, this
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is how good it is. I'm
actually I'm a comic book collector, but
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I like to I don't just usually
buy comic books and never open them right
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right, and if I do that
I'll buy two so I can actually read
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and enjoy it. But this,
this is a great freaking story, like
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we are saying earlier. It's an
origin to a character who's never really supposed
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to have an origin, and I
think they nailed I think they had the
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perfect origin prinking story for him.
Yeah, yeah, well, it explains
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a lot, you know, it
explains his infatuation with Dreen Gene Gray,
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you know, because because of the
red hair, but also later on in
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the comic books. Every time wolverine
gets close to death, you, as
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the reader, you never see her
face, but you always see a figure
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with red hair, HM, right, telling him James, it's over,
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and she keeps on calling him James. And like you're like, because I
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think they might have done that before
they started to release like they said,
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Hey, we're going to release the
origin, but they hadn't yet, and
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so they started like alluding to this
redheaded woman. Yeah, every time he
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comes close to death, like it's
it's like two sides. There's like everybody
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that wolverines killed waiting for him right
one side, and then it's this redheaded
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woman rose saying, James, come, it's over, you don't have to
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fight anymore, and it's like one
of those things. Where does he go?
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He believes that he deserves to go
fight for the rest of eternity in
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this hell that he made for himself, you know, being constantly attacked by
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everybody he's killed, right, or
he can go have peace with his first
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love, which is not anywhere close
to the movie that we got. Oh
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No, it's not. We got
this horrible why did yes, it was
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horrible. It was entertaining as an
action movie. It wasn't. It wasn't
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bad. Yeah, it, but
as a comic book Fan and as a
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Wolverine fucking Super Fan it was horror. As a I don't even really up
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until the before the movies, I
really didn't like Deadpool, HMM, and
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mostly because of their faint. Like
if you ever gone to a comic con
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and you run into like a deadpool
freaking Cosplayer, they think that they could
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act like dead pool and I'm like, bro You Wagh like a hundred twenty
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pounds, I will snap you in
half and you don't have deadpool's regenitiveability right,
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like I will fuck you up.
Stop. Stop being anning. Yeah,
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like, I get it being in
character, but when you see that
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you've pushed it to that point,
stop, yeah, walk away or stop
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just but even in that movie,
when I was like that's supposed to be
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dead, Oh my God, that's
bad. How do you take away the
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mouth? Take away the mouth of
the Merk with the mouth right, I
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was going to say of somebody who's
Tagline has to do with his his verbiage
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and is yeah, and that's and
that's what, that's his fucking thing.
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But yeah, and like you,
they gave him fucking cyclops has I.
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This is why I love the fact
in the last dead pool when he went
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back in time and shot deadpool in
the fucking head. So actually they talked
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to the directors and they talked to
the head of I think it's Sony that
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owned the x men at the time. Yeah, or no, Fox.
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It was Fox, yes, and
they talk to him in they're like so
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when he does that, did that
really happen? And then they're like yeah,
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that's canonical. So at the end
of Xmen, Wolverine Origins, deadpool
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actually comes in and shoots deadpool and
fucking head, which is the wolverines saw
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that. So we have actually had
a movie with Hugh Jackman's Wolverine and Ryan
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radolds deadpool together, because that is
actually came in in the story. Wolverine
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never fought him at the end.
Thank you. Mcu. Well, that's
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not even mcu. That's because deadpools
not part of the mcu. Deadpool never
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be a part of the mcu.
Well, he can't be because he's that's
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Disney. Well, but also he's
rated. Are Yes, Disney will never
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yeah, that's why I'm saying,
like mcu's Disney. No, there they
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can't, which is when they first
announced the first deadpool movie, I was
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like, how are you going to
make a deadpool movie for kids, because
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all these superhero movies are geared,
most of them are geared towards children.
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I think they were leased a PG
thirteen one. Yeah, I think they
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did. Hmm, I think they
did. I mean they'd be smart too,
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because it's like, even if I
had kids, I'm like no,
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I'm not going to let you see
that. It's a great freaking movie,
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but you didn't need to know what
a prison wall it is. It's like
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taking your kids to sausage party.
Please don't do that, please don't do
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that, Jesus. But yeah,
so that was my main one. There
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are a shit ton of other storylines
you guys should should read. Do you
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have any final words before I I
mean like the the the the new kick
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ass, or not origin, but
the new kick ass series with what's your
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faith from what's her face from New
Mexico? Yeah, I think that's that's
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a really good story that you guys
should look at and or look for,
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if you guys live in the Albuquerque, New Mexico area. Well, even
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if you don't. I mean it's
just a story of a mom trying to
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take seeing her kids start to gravitate
towards the rougher side of society and doing
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something about it. Yeah, it's
really good story. I also obviously love
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the whole kick ass story, because
then it kind of gives you empowerment to
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not necessarily become a vigilante, because
that's illegal, but take control of your
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your crime ridden area. If you
live in crist you know I mean,
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doing what you can to stop the
crime. Yeah, Dude, do the
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right thing, if it's, you
know, being a decent human being or
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picking up trash and in your local
parks or something like that. You know
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what I mean. It's it kind
of gives you an incentive to be a
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better neighbor. I guess I like
that. HMM. Yeah, you don't
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have to don a cowl or a
mask to be a better person in your
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neighborhood, and I I like that. I mean, if, well,
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you want to get into that,
I will. I would say Mr Rodgers
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is a superhero. Oh, yes, for bettering his neighborhood. Man,
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would you be my neighbor? He
taught us that it's okay to be different.
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Yeah, he also got in like
undressed in front of people, but
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then he got redressed. Yeah,
like, I don't know, like house
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shoes and like outside shoes. I
always thought that, like grandma and GRANDPA
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used to fuck with us. When
they're we're saying the war those who are
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outside shoes. But well, Le
See, a and I are apparently the
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only ones who have inside brooms and
outside brooms. Now you don't. I
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have inside brooms and outside will there
you go. I've always beenly. Yes,
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the old ones. Yeah, because
Jackie looked at us like we were
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done. I remember that. What
the hell, where's your outside brew?
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Why are you taking the broom they
used outside? Inside? That's not that's
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no, no, no, you're
bringing the germs, and I get it.
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It's kind of dumb because it's all
the same dirt and germs. Right,
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right, no, you haven't inside
broom and outside. Yeah, inside
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choosing outside shoes. Please explain.
Japan? Well, Japan just takes them
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off. Now they have their inside
choose. They have there like little well,
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the troubles, yeah, those aren't
shoot stubbles are troupos. They're not
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shoo. That's is really the only
stories that I have, but I stand
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out in my brain right now,
right now. Okay, so I have
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a bunch. Let me click over
to them. So I'm going to first
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bring up there's going to be a
couple classic spider man ones. First Classic
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Spider Man One I'm going to talk
about as sinister six, by Stanley and
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Steve ditko. This is amazing.
Spider man number one came out in one
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thousand nine hundred and sixty four,
and this is when doc ack, mysterio,
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electro, craven, Sandman and vulture, kidnap, aunt May and have
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spider man come to them. Ultimately
just trying to defeat spider man and they
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all attack him individually, each one
upping the antie with every fight, and
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it just puts him through this like
Instrumentamal Gauntlet, and so obviously spider man
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Gon comes out on top. But
I think this is the comic book that
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Puts Spider man kind of on the
map, not just in marvel but also
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in, you know, in the
DC universe. Yeah, it just showed
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he's not just some kid with,
you know, some goofy powers that he's
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actually got, you know, some
ump from some gumption and and as far
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as stories goes, this isn't the
most compelling, like in depth expose of
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freaking spider man or Peter Parker.
But it is a it's beautifully drawn and
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and colored. The Arts Amazing.
It's just that classic Spider Man Art.
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And Yeah, it shows spider man
whoop six bad guys asses. You also
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do this. You see the sinister
six again in the playstation four video game.
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It's really fucking cool. I loved
it. When I saw I was
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like, Oh shit, they're doing
sinners. It's a good cruise. I
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mean I only played the playstation one
game, which was fucking fantastic. Yeah,
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and that was like narrated by Bruce
Campbell, which I fucking love.
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Yea, because Sam Raymi was doing
those spider man hell yeah, and for
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those you don't know, the reason
why they're linked is that Sam Remi directed
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the evil deads and that's why every
times, Amory, Ramy, raybill all,
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every time Sam Remy does a movie, Bruce Campbell's in it. Second
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one I have for you is spider
man no more. This is from amazing
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spider man number fifty, and if
there's one word that describes this it's iconic.
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I mean the cover itself. I'm
pretty sure you can all picture it
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in your head, with the spider
man costume in a trash can and an
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Elie and Peter Parker is walking away
with back on it. And basically that
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sums up the entire story. Peter
Parker is tired of fighting for a city
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that is not only ungrateful but like
actively hunts him down as well, and
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he's like no, screw this,
I want to go be with Mary Jane,
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get married and have little spidy kids
and be done with this. But
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as he does leave, so he
definitely he drops the name of spider man.
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Uge He's just Peter Parker, doesn't
give a shit about the crime.
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And then with this a popular villain
in not just his comic book but also
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the daredevil comic books are rises,
and that's the king kingpin, Wilson Fisk.
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Seeing that spider man is gone,
he seeks to expand his criminal empire
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and he does and through the heightened
crime rate, spider Peter Parker ends up
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saving some dude that kind of reminds
him of Uncle Ben and then he starts
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to fucking thing like goal. With
great power comes with responsibility, Blah Blah
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Blass. He starts feel guilty,
he is like, fuck man, I
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have to be spider man. The
have to this is me. HMM.
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And so he does. And then
he fights King Ben King Penomas Kills Him
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with a Fucking Samurai Sword and boom, there you're done. If this sounds
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familiar, it is familiar because it
was in the second Sam Rami Spider Man.
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That was basically the plot for that
perfect. Now the last, the
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last spider man, like Classic Spider
Man Story Line. Number bring up is
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craven's last hunt and with that craven
part of the sinister six. He's probably
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the most goofy out of the sinister
six. He's like the fucking great white
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hunter. I think he's Russian,
not positive, but he wears like volodka
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pelts and drinks Voltka. I don't
know that, don't I don't think he
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ever drinking the Conflix, but but
yeah, he wears like all his like
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these pelts from animals he's killed in
the past, as you do, and
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the only reason he's hunting spider man
is because spider man is the ultimate prey.
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You know, he like most dangerous
game, right, right, right.
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The best thing to hunt is people, because they're actually smart. They
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think just like you in some ways. And so he does this. He
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actually does defeat spider man. You
shoot spider man, and actually buries him,
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thinking that he's dead. Spider man
tramphany like crawls out of his freaking
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grave and shit. One of the
cool things about this, though, is
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because I kept on bringing up the
pelts from all his kills, he actually
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dons spider man's black costume as his
pelt. That's that's like how you know
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he's how he does that. Spider
man comes back and Craven, I believe,
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eve in a he's like, basically, well, I've killed the ultimate
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thing. I have no reason to
live. Commit suicide in a fucking bathtub
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because, yes, because that's the
thing, because that makes sense. This
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isn't like the s common cartoon where
he's like, well, I'm just going
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to go off and go up in
the sunset, spider man, bubble Bab
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wall do fucking offs himself. Like
that's just dark on so many fucking little
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that's a lot. That's a little
rough to read about, even though,
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like we've read about like pretty rough
stuff. Yeah, we brought up,
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yeah, a lot of that stuff, but I mean in the killing joke,
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you see that Commissioner Gordon is subjected
to looking at a picture of his
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daughter in a pool of blood,
Naked Naka, and I'm on my like
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it because we talked about this in
the original recording of this episode and I
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was like, what is this?
What she raped? And it never says
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she was, but my sick little
brain was just it was never, never
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blatantly said, but it could be
implied that. Yeah, and I think
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that's like when you when you're ambiguous
like that, you let the reader make
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up. They fill in the details
and your own brain is going to be
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the most disgusting and depraved. Not
on purpose, but it's like shit,
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what the joker do? Yeah,
with a I mean that's let's be honest,
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she was hot. Yeah, so, yeah, not condoning it at
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all. Yeah, it's just gross. But that was craven's last hunt.
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Another one I'm going to go to
the DC side. I've talked about this
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before, is kingdom come. It
was a one thousand nine hundred and ninety
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six graphic novel by Mark Wade and
Alex Ross, painted by Alex Ross,
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and the reason why I say painted
because Alex Ross is super detailed and not
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even just detailed he is super realistic
in his paintings and I just love it,
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like the way he penned Russian say
pain weighting Superman. Superman wasn't like
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fucking Ronnie Coleman with muscles on muscles
on muscles. He was just a really
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tall, barrel chested big dude.
You know, you can tell he had
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muscles, right, he didn't have
a like a fucking bulging six pack.
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He's just huge, yes, like
a naturally big, fucking towering dude.
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Yeah, and just think, more
powerlifter than body builder. Yeah, so,
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yeah, so this book takes place
in the future. The Justice League
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has retired. So, like spider
man or Superman, cost lives in the
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fortres of solitude and like has a
farm there, which is funny. But
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the future has like a bunch of
these like new superheroes that are kind of
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they're fighting more each other over jurisdiction
than they are fighting bad guys and innocent
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people are getting hurt. Well,
wonder woman comes to Super Man. She's
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like hey, they're going to rally
around me because I'm kind of a fucking
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big deal, right, but more
people are going to come to our cause
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if you come with me and at
first he says no and then he eventually
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does. He comes out and it's
so freaking fun seeing like the Justice League
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old and for the longest time.
I'm not even going to go into that.
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One of the best parts about this. So it too is so Shazam,
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Captain Marvel, the DC Captain Marvel, not the marvel kept right,
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right right, the DC Captain Marvel. So Billy Baxton, when he says
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the magic words Shazam, turns into
Captain Marvel. HMM. Well, because
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it's in the future, Billy Baxton
is an adult who looks exactly like Captain
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Marvel. So he still says Shazam
to get his powers. But it's like
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it's just funny that, yeah,
it's just the time with a Cape and
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special powers issue. We yeah,
well, and it's just that that they
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took that into consideration, that billy
would have grown up right, and they
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call him William. Oh No,
no, you don't call him William.
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But yeah, and then at the
end they actually and I one thing,
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it does speak on it. It
speaks on kind of like our commercial culture.
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So there's this restaurant in there that's
called like the Justice League perfect and
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then like all the it's like Justice
League themed and like all the waiters and
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waitresses are like dressed like Golden Age
Justice League characters. And so it's really
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funny because the end scene is Bruce
Wayne, wonder woman and Superman all sitting
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down having a meal and like the
green lantern comes and the green, quote
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unquote, the green lantern comes and
like serves them their fucking things, right.
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But the greatest part about that is
that Bruce Wayne deduces the wonder woman's
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pregnant. Oh yeay, and she's
he was like well, yes, you
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walked in and you were flesh and
you have seen you put on a little
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wit, a little bit of weight, and I ordered my scotch and you
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ordered water. You did in order
to drink. Did in order to drink
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with dinner. You're pregnant. And
it's just so good because that panel like
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when he when he just comes up
and says it all non nonchalantly and kind
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of cocky in a way. And
that's another thing. Like the Bruce Lee,
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the Bruce Lee, the what?
I'm not going to get into that,
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nope. But yeah, so the
Bruce Wayne in this is actually kind
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of a fucking cocky asshole. Yeah, in this and I just love his
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attitude with everything. He's always making
snide comics and comments and like giving people
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like the side iron like a already
do that? Well, I already knew
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that. And like wonder woman and
Superman are like boll like mid bite,
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jaws left a gape. Nothing gets
past me, says Bruce Wayne. Has
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Bruce Wayne, and it's fucking true. Another thing I like about Bruce Wayne
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too, though, in this is
because he's like a normal dude. He
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doesn't have super powers. He uses
like the frame of the bat suit to
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like keep his body intact. Yes, because he's he's Super Old, he's
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fucking old and he's a real fucking
person and everything hurts, because we know
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once you passed twenty five, everything
hurts. She's but the last one I'm
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going to talk about is Marvel's civil
war. That took place between two thousand
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and sixty two thousand and seven.
It was a yearlong story ARC and the
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civil war had its own title,
but every book in the Marvel Universe had
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tie ins to this and it was
super fucking brilliant. It actually in Captain
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America Civil War, the movie it
was is pretty fucking accurate. So basically
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the US government wants a superhuman registration
act to kind of regulate how they fight
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crime, and iron man's all about
it and caps like no, because what
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if they send us to a place
that we don't think we should go?
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Yeah, freedom, freedom, America. Yeah, Mirocca. And so they
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start fighting in yeah, yeah,
yeah, no, it. And it's
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pretty good because, of course,
in the unsaved version of the episode,
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yeah, we kind of got into
the the mutants, the mutant registration act
486
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and stuff like that, and how
the mutants didn't come to the aid of
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the avengers when all the shit was
going down. And then how how,
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you know the avengers didn't come to
the mute's aid, yeah, when all
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that show was going down. So
it's really interesting to see what they're going
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to do in the mcu, how
they're going to bring them in, Yep,
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but how how they they kind of
tied that in with civil war and
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the comic books ish kind of how
the mutants had to go through similar,
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similar kind of thing. Well,
I mean it's not just similar, it's
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exact same thing. Yeah, there's
a moment in there and I think cap
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is talking to storm and he's like, well, you join my cause and
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she says No. Where were you
when we were facing the mutant registration at
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where were the avengers? Hum,
you're on your own. Yeah, and
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now some of the other like the
x men that were former avengers, like
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Wolverine, scarlet witch and all those
guys. Right, they do end up
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helping cap. Yeah, for a
little bit, but it's like that whole
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thing. Like, Dude, brow, where were you? Yeah, we
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needed your help at a point and
you could have vouched for us. You're
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captain fucking America. You could have
vouched for us. You when you do,
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Yep, fuck you. So it's
going to be pretty interesting to see
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how the mcu ties that in,
which might be through one division, as
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we talked about. I think it's
going to be through one division, but
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I don't know, and that's one
of my biggest thing is I think because
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of the multiple snaps. HMM.
So you had the snap with the Hulk,
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which is actually called the blimp,
the blip blip, it's called the
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blip, and you have the hulk
snap and that brings everybody back, but
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then literally within the same day you
have the iron man's iron man's name.
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So that might have fucked with like
this time space continuum and like merged.
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And my whole thing is I think
it's going to merge to universes. Hmmm.
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And so we have the mcu universe, but then we're going to have
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another universe that emerges with where there
is no avengers, there's only mutants.
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HMM, like there was a Steve
Rogers that lived at one point, but
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he never became iron man or he
never burn captain America. Yeah, and
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Tony Stark and all those things.
Right, you just had the mutants and
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then now they're all of a sudden
shoved into this world that has gone through
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five years of missing half the fucking
population and you know, within the last
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fifteen years they've been attacked by aliens
and Shit. And then now you have
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people who aren't humans, who aren't
one hundred percent human, they are another
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type, another species of human.
So then you could even again. Not
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only are they from another universe and
that could have some bigotry, but their
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mutants. There's that bigotry thing right
there. So that could pull in the
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one of the things. The main
themes of all the xmen comic books have
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been acceptance and prejudice and stuff like. Yeah, and I think that that
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hits it on two fronts and I
think that would be fucking perfect, phenomenal
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00:39:08.360 --> 00:39:15.429
phenom a hell. But that's in
my little brain. There's also a couple
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more. Another one I would bring
up his Batman White Night. Long Story
531
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Short, Batman is caught basically roughing
up the joker and the joker presses charges,
532
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saying I was trying to take my
pills and he beat the fuck out
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of me. That's not right.
Joker wins the case. They put Batman
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in Arkham and then joker becomes Gotham's
white night, white pose to the Dark
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Knight. Yeah, we have the
white face paint or the dark cowl.
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Right, right, right, really
fucking good, expertly written, fucking great.
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00:39:49.530 --> 00:39:53.480
Another one would be injustice he man. Yeah, basically in that in
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the injustice universe, Superman becomes a
basically godlike and becomes a detelitarian ruler of
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the world and the Justice League like
goes to Eternia and they're like, Hey,
540
00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:10.590
we heard Heman is pretty fucking strong. We need your help to can
541
00:40:10.670 --> 00:40:15.949
you suppose? And they do and
it's so far, it's so fucking good.
542
00:40:15.190 --> 00:40:20.829
Yeah, as I a childhood he
man fan and seeing him punch superman
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in the fucking face. Hell,
yeah, awesome. Another one is doomsday
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clock, which brings the watchman into
the actual DC universe, because it's always
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been a DC type thing. Yeah, but now it brings them into the
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actual canonical normal world for them.
Yeah, Emerald twilight from the Green Lantern,
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Hal Jordan, the original green lantern, kind of goes nuts and starts
548
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killing the rest of the Green Lantern
Corps and getting all the fucking rings.
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Then he becomes parallax and he becomes
a bad guy for the fuck. Yes,
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awesome, I'm green. Thatches the
shit. Oh, Infinity Gauntlet obviously
551
00:41:08.869 --> 00:41:15.590
the the original story of what the
mcu was based on. Maximum carnage from
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00:41:15.710 --> 00:41:19.940
spider man. Yes, fuck yes, I do remember that one. That
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one is this shit death is superman. Is actually really good, and not
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because I'm kind of a superman hater. It was like DC was like,
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we have all these superheroes. How
are we going to kill or how we
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00:41:30.179 --> 00:41:35.010
going to get rid of them?
There? Let's have a fucking indestructible fucking
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dude come down and kill everybody.
Literally shoves Blue Beetles head through a tree.
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00:41:38.650 --> 00:41:46.320
Awesome instead into it. So good, but it's really well written and
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just being alive. When it actually
came out, it was all over the
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news like it was a big freaking
deal. Right. Any of the post
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nine hundred and eleven books? Those
are actually really good. The Spider Man
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One, yes, is that came
out after nine hundred and eleven is really
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good and just had been. Marvel
headquarters is in New York, so these
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writers and and everybody, they were
there. Right, they were in the
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same city. So this is how
I think. I think this was there.
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Yeah, it hit home and I
think it was their catharsis to get
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00:42:21.579 --> 00:42:24.820
over. Yeah, everything. Yeah, but in the spider man when spider
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00:42:24.860 --> 00:42:28.900
man's wondering like how did we let
this happen? We can stop aliens from
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00:42:28.940 --> 00:42:32.289
coming down and destroying the world,
but we couldn't stop a terrorist attack,
570
00:42:32.329 --> 00:42:37.329
a terrorist attack. Yeah, and
even like the bad guys of the mcu
571
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were like you don't hit civilians,
you know, like Dr Doom, with
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Dr Doom was like he cried for
New York because he's like I always I
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attack the fantast before I attack somebody
on my level. I don't attack innocent
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right, people. Right, it's
actually very fucking touching to see all the
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superheroes not in like their superhero garb
mostly, but they're all wearing like fdn
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why and NYPD, like cats and
shirts and stuff like that, and it's
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00:43:07.110 --> 00:43:09.989
like, dude, this is man. It was good. Another post,
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00:43:10.110 --> 00:43:14.340
one eleven, was that Captain America, one after that EA, and that
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00:43:14.420 --> 00:43:17.659
one is a bit more of the
Catharsis because literally there's like for words in
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the whole fucking comic book and it's
just shows Captain American is see thirty and
581
00:43:22.340 --> 00:43:28.769
he's remembering Pearl Harbor and he's remembering
World War Two and he's like not again.
582
00:43:29.250 --> 00:43:32.690
You let it happen again, and
they drop him in Afghanistan without a
583
00:43:32.769 --> 00:43:37.329
parachute and he like creates this crater
in the middle of the desert and the
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00:43:37.489 --> 00:43:40.599
rest of the pages are him just
fucking murking terrorists. Yeah, why should
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00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:45.079
it? Shouldn't say, not necessarily
terrorist, but al Qaida. Right,
586
00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:49.880
he's as beaten the fuck out of
all Qaida, and I don't mean shooting,
587
00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:53.679
literally beating them to death. And
like I mean like. I'm not
588
00:43:53.840 --> 00:44:00.869
saying yes, I am saying there
was guys, fucking bad guys, but
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I think it was. It was
a bit of a Catharsis for that writer
590
00:44:04.030 --> 00:44:07.469
to get over what he needed.
He needed to get something out. Yeah,
591
00:44:07.510 --> 00:44:14.059
you needed to to deal with what
you've experienced and what you've seen in
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a way that you're comfortable with and
you know how. And a lot of
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these these creators and writers and anchors
and illustrators and everything like that, you
594
00:44:22.300 --> 00:44:25.449
know this is this is their way
of getting their grief out in that way,
595
00:44:25.610 --> 00:44:30.530
the only way they know how.
Yeah, yeah, so, yeah.
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So that kind of concludes our favorite
comic books episode. If you guys
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have any suggestions yourself, for us
and for our listeners, will put them
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back. I will put them up
up there. Yeah, something a graphic
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novel. It doesn't have to be, you know, a whole series.
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It could it could be a single
book that that kind of touched you or
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something like that in a good way. Show me where the comic but see.
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So if you have suggestions or if
you're like hey, you know,
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this is the kind of literature I
like. What kind of comic books should
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I read? Right, right,
and I use work at comic bookshops.
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I think I'm pretty good at that. I think he's better than I am,
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for sure. So definitely like you're
like hey, so I like murder
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mystery and this stuff, and it's
probably not going to be a marvel or
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DC title. Is probably going to
be a dark horse or something like that.
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And now image is kind of just
boobs and violence. So some people
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might be into that. And and
if you're that cool, if you're into
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like more like the girl power stuff, Red Sonia actually last year just started
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again. Red Sony's the Shit.
I mean, obviously she's hot and she's
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a redhead, but I mean she's
a savage in a male obviously a male
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run world back in the day,
right in that universe, and she whoops
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ass. Yeah, I think that's
it. Is that concluding our recommendations?
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Would conclude? All right, this
is player to signing up for player one.
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Letting you guys know that with great
power comes great responsibility. Stay safe,
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stay sane, stay nerdy, nerdy. On Jolo, episode of
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I've been reading this book on Anti
Gravity. I can't put it down.
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Thanks, Ellie. Why don't eggs
till jokes? Why, they'd crack each
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other up. Those are some of
our really good jokes. Did you hear
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the rumor about butter? What?
Well, I'm not gonna spread it.
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I don't know what a rumor eyeball
get it, you little rascal. Those
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kids are great. Why can't it
Noseb twelve inches long? Why too,
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because then it'd be welcome back,
true believers, to my favorite podcast.
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My favorite podcast, and I'm sure
it's your favorite podcast, to much a
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do about nerding, a brother sister
nerdcast discusses everything fro a mominous origins to
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jokes that kill. But of course
it is I player, one your master
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of ceremonies, and always by my
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wonder herself of my player. To
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load of NERD nation, cell.
What's up, guys, and what are
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we talking about? This Week?
We're going to be talking about our favorite
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comic book stories. A lot of
these are actually origins, which is pretty
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cool. I know the two big
ones that we're going to do. Are
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going to be origins stories. We
are sorry, we do apologize. We
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did record this episode in full length, but it all got erased. Wo
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Wo, WOMP, WOMP, said
trumpet. But show must go on and
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since we said we're going to give
it to you, we're going to give
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you one story a piece, and
then I'm going to give you a bunch
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of titles that you can go through
and research on your on your own.
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This is basically for new comic book
fans, Old Comic Book fans that might
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have fallen out of reading comic books, or even if you still do,
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maybe it'll remind you to go back
and read that title. This is for
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you guys. This is to broaden
your horizon. Yeah, give you,
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give you something to do in this
in this time where we have not a
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whole lot to do. So,
yeah, I mean more people are going
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back to work, but hey,
instead of watching tiger king for the third
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time or watching staircase, maybe you
should pick up a book, even if
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it's comic book. Yeah, I
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mean it's not good. And it's, Joe said in our previous episode,
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some of the greatest literature to come
out of the United States. Our comic
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books. Yep, Yep, I
will stand by that one hunderd percent and
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I agree, like for sure.
Yeah, so, Joe, how is
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your week? Weeks been pretty good
since we actually last recorded like four days
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ago, not even that long as
no, three days ago we did a
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double header and, like I said, half of that fucking double header was
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lost into the ether. We didn't
Save, or I think it was more
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of a computer issue. Yes,
we think, crash halfway through and and
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didn't save. So under fortunately that's
our bad. Well, some good content,
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but again, yeah, it's our
bad. My bed, all the
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bed. Yeah. So, yeah, it's been good. It's been a
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good looking forward to a lot of
work actually this next week. Heck,
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yeah, dude, but dude.
And so how is yours? Pretty good.
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Staying pretty busy with the getting ready
of the moving out of the house
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situation. So that's awesome. Looking
for a new place to live and nothing
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really different from there. So,
yeah, Nice, good, heck,
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yeah, all right, sweet.
So, as always, when we discuss
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movies, books, comic books,
TV shows, spoiler warning is in effect
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for this. If you want,
we can definitely when Selena brings up her
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story, if you don't want spoilers, pause it, go get the book,
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read it, Boom, love it
and then come back and see what
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we have to say about it.
But yeah, without further without much ado,
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I see what she did there.
So what's your what's your story that
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you would recommend that all of our
listeners read? So mine is going to
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be the killing joke, which probably
not a surprise to a lot of you,
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since a lot of you guys know
that I am a huge Batman Fan.
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This book was published in March of
one thousand nine hundred and eighty eight
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by DC comics. It was created
by Alan Moore, Brian Bolland and John
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Higgins. So Quick Synopsis. We're
not trying to get to two into this
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because I definitely want you guys to
read this. It is a graphic novel,
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so it's just a one shot.
Is just one book. You don't
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have to pick up a whole series. But it is basically an origin story
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of the joker. It's not the
origin story because he doesn't have a canonical
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origin story, but we follow an
engineer who worked at a chemical plant called
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Axis. He picks up being a
standup comedian to support his wife after he
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leaves the chemical plant, he is
recruitered by a bunch of goons to rub
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the playing card factory next to the
chemical plant that he used to work at.
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So he dons the Red Hood at
their request. Of course, Batman
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comes in to save the day.
The joker. In an attempt to run
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away from Batman the dark night,
he jumps into a waste pool and comes
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out as the bleached Ruby, red
lips, green hair joker that we know
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and the Crown Prince of gray.
Yeah, he comes out as the joker
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that we all know and love.
Today, and before he commits this crime,
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he learns that his pregnant wife and
unborn child were not murdered, but
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killed in a household accident, and
that kind of causes the snap, you
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know, like the the what am
I doing? Not The FANO snap.
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No, no, snap inside his
brain. Yes, so he snaps.
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He becomes, you know, the
the the joker that we love, and
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Tortures Commissioner Gordon, shoots Barbara Gordon
and causes her paralysis. So she becomes
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the Oracle, as opposed to bat
girl, which we've all known that she
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she had become. And so,
of course, Batman subdues the joker in
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this and they have a kind of
beautiful moment at the end of the book.
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So I know that that we didn't
want to really talk about the ending
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of these books because we want you
guys to go read them, but with
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this one I think that we have
to kind of discuss the end. Yeah,
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I think the best part about this, I mean, it's a great
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story all around, but I think
the best part about this store right is
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the end, in the fact that
the forever brooding, the always solemn,
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the always somber Batman not just laughs, he chuckles. Yeah, yeah,
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he he definitely chuckles to himself.
So Joker tells him a joke about two
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inmates trying to escape and insane asylum, and Batman laughs at the punch line
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of his joke and then I think
in that moment you find out that Batman
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in the joker are one in the
same kind of he's just as insane in
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a way as the joker, but
hey, they handle it in a different
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way. If yes, yes,
as joker kind of just embraces the insanity
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and just goes straight towards chaos and
anarchy, Batman actually still believes in law
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and order and and the good people
and that these people need to be off
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the streets. But I think he
also knows that he is one in the
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same of these two, the two
sides of the same coin, right,
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right, right face. Oh so
that's kind of why I love this story
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so much, is because you kind
of see that Batman is not necessarily the
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good guy. He could easily have
just become the bad guy after watching his
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parents be be murdered in front of
him so well, and like I've brought
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this up before, I mean in
the the daredevil Netflix series, when he's
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fighting the punisher, in the punishers
like you know, you're one bad day
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away from being me, right right, were not all that different. You're
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not necessarily the good guy. And
and Batman does he's he tries to bring
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him to the light. He's like
hey man, we can work through this
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together, and the joker responds with
it's too late for that. It's far
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too late for that. So so
it's a good, interesting take on the
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relationship between Batman and the joker,
because everybody knows who the joker is and
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he knows that. That's that's definitely
Batman's catalyst. You know what I mean?
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That's like his ultimate bad guy that
he faces in a lot of ways.
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Yeah, yeah, he's the exact
opposite of Batman, but at the
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same time he's exactly the same.
Yeah, which I think it's beautifully written,
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and I think when they invented the
joker and when they developed into the
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joke, the joker into what he
was so you know, ultimately going to
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be, I I think he was
a stroke of genius, because they are
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one in the same. Also,
the reason I love this story too is
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you're like, Oh shit, it's
finally joker's origin, and then at the
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end he's like, yeah, I
could have happened that way. Yeah,
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this is he's very ambiguous with if
that was the true way, and then
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they kind of play on that in
the dark night with heath ledgers joker telling
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the two different stories of you want
to know how I got these scars right?
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Right, so nobody actually and then
that's why I said at the beginning
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of this like this is a origin
story. This is not the origin story,
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because nobody actually knows how the joker
came to be and and all of
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that good stuff. But yeah,
one hundred percent agree with you on that
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that it's interesting because we don't know
and it's so much the joker. It's
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the joker to tell you a lie
get you to believe it. Just kidding,
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Kiddoh, not sure if that's how
I remember it. Yep, and
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and, and that's why I love
the story. So, if you guys
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have the opportunity, download it or
go to your local comic book I was
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gonna say support your local call,
support local commerce. Guys, go to
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your local comic bookshop, pick this
book up. It's decently old and they've
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been in print for long enough it's
not going to be all that expensive and
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even if you find yourself a used
copy, it's probably only going to be
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like five, six bucks. Right, right, an, even if you're
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not a Batman Fan, it's a
fucking fund and, like I said,
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it is just good literature. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, so, yeah,
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the killing jokes probably my favorite comic
the story. What do you got
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for us? Well, I was
going to say what's your favorite? You
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tell me a joke. What's my
holier joke? Well, tell me a
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killing joke. What kind of chocolate? What is the only kind of chocolate
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you can take on a plane?
Oh Shit, Alex said this last night.
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Yeah, I forgot. What is
it? Plane Chocolate, plane chuck?
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That's stupid. That's why I think
he made that up. I honestly
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think he made that even if he
did, that's genius. It's so good,
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so good. Okay, cool,
yeah, that's it. That that's
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a great that, that's I'm not
just saying that. That's a great fucking
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story. Now, absolutely, for
sure, for sure, go. Yeah.
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So I'm going to get into mine
right now and, like I said,
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it's going to be another origin story, in an origin story to a
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character who didn't have an origin,
a definite origin, for the long as
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time. I am talking about none
other than the knucklehead himself, that five
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foot five, three hundred and forty
five, you beautiful bitch, you beautiful
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hairy bitch, the man they called
the Wolverine. Wolverine origin. Wolverine origin
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was a six part origin story and
it was published from November two thousand and
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one, two March two thousand and
two. And just a little background on
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this. Like I said, wolverines
origin had never really fully been explained.
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Every time something would come out about
where he comes from, came from,
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how he came about, it always
ended up being like memory implants from department
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h and the weapon x program so
we never really knew, which was really
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cool. It was like really that
ambiguous. I don't know who I used
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to be right and therefore I don't
know if I deserve your love or your
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friendship and all this stuff. I
kind of just want to go brood and
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be sad in the corner, but
also kick ass, but also I love
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you, guys who mutch. So
I'm going to yes, I'M gonna go
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fight for you, but but you. So in Wolverine Origins, it takes
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a play. It takes place around
it's eighteen sites, late nineteen century in
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Canada. I don't I don't know. They don't remember the exact dates,
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but it centers around the Howlett family
and we find out that wolverines original name
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was James Howlett and he was the
youngest son, the youngest sickly son,
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of a prominent landowner in Canada and
and which is really funny because he has
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the healing factor and he was always
sickly and never could really go outside.
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But when he was able to go
outside he went outside with the maid's daughter
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Rose, who was redheaded. Hmm, I wonder where his infatuation came from.
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Yeah, right, weird. And
he would play also with the groundkeepers
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son, dog, I think his
name was dog huh, and they would
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go play and they would always have
a good time. They were really good
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friends. But dog was a little
cruel. He was like that kid that
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would like tear the wings off flies
and like the other kids are looking him
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like, what are you dissecting rabbits? Yeah, just he's a weird,
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weird fucking dude. But then you're
introduced to the rest of the Howett family.
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I think he's got like three older
siblings, maybe one or two,
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I don't remember, and then a
mom and dad. And then the groundskeeper
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himself is named Logan and looks a
lot like the Wolverine we know today.
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Also has a drinking problem. They
kind of allude to an affair with wolverines
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mom and the groundskeeper. This is
why overine looks the way he does.
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So the kids are playing, the
groundskeeper's son breaks James Howlett's dog's neck,
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oh, on purpose, and of
course James Fucking flips out, so does
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rose. Mr Howett, Wolverines Dad
fires the groundskeeper on the spot. groundskeeper
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goes away like he like beats the
kid first and then he goes and gets
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fucking drunk. Well, he goes, gets drunk, grabs a shotgun,
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comes back and starts to murder the
entire fucking household. Oh well, Wolverine,
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Young Wolverine, seeing this, obviously
flips out, pops his bone,
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claws guts the guts the groundskeeper in
front of the kid, slashes the kid's
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face when he tries to protect his
dad. And then young James Howlett goes
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to his actually his grandfather, who's
like this mean Crotchfield Fuck, and he
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tells him. He's like, you're
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get out of here, go,
and so they do. Rose and young
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James Howlett go into the fucking Canadian
Tundra. They end up going to a
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mining facility, a mining camp,
and James at this point is a very
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passive, timid, Meek Person.
The only person he he's ever loved up
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into this point really is rose.
I think rose is a little bit older
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than him too. One thing leads
to another, like there's a brawl at
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one point. I don't want to
give too much way, but there's like
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a brawl at one point, and
Wolverine accidentally kills rose with his bone claws.
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Yes, HMM, and so he
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with these fucking this pack of wolves, and that's how he gets like his
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animal side. But there. I
mean there's a lot more to go to
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this this there's a hell of a
lot more. Please go pick this up.
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You can pick it up. I
have both the six actual individual comic
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books that have never been opened.
I have the hardback graphic or trade paperback
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and the softback trade paperback that I
actually read. So, yes, this
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is how good it is. I'm
actually I'm a comic book collector, but
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I like to I don't just usually
buy comic books and never open them right
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right, and if I do that
I'll buy two so I can actually read
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and enjoy it. But this,
this is a great freaking story, like
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we are saying earlier. It's an
origin to a character who's never really supposed
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to have an origin, and I
think they nailed I think they had the
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perfect origin prinking story for him.
Yeah, yeah, well, it explains
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a lot, you know, it
explains his infatuation with Dreen Gene Gray,
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you know, because because of the
red hair, but also later on in
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the comic books. Every time wolverine
gets close to death, you, as
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the reader, you never see her
face, but you always see a figure
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with red hair, HM, right, telling him James, it's over,
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and she keeps on calling him James. And like you're like, because I
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think they might have done that before
they started to release like they said,
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Hey, we're going to release the
origin, but they hadn't yet, and
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so they started like alluding to this
redheaded woman. Yeah, every time he
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comes close to death, like it's
it's like two sides. There's like everybody
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that wolverines killed waiting for him right
one side, and then it's this redheaded
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woman rose saying, James, come, it's over, you don't have to
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fight anymore, and it's like one
of those things. Where does he go?
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He believes that he deserves to go
fight for the rest of eternity in
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this hell that he made for himself, you know, being constantly attacked by
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everybody he's killed, right, or
he can go have peace with his first
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love, which is not anywhere close
to the movie that we got. Oh
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No, it's not. We got
this horrible why did yes, it was
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horrible. It was entertaining as an
action movie. It wasn't. It wasn't
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bad. Yeah, it, but
as a comic book Fan and as a
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Wolverine fucking Super Fan it was horror. As a I don't even really up
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until the before the movies, I
really didn't like Deadpool, HMM, and
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mostly because of their faint. Like
if you ever gone to a comic con
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and you run into like a deadpool
freaking Cosplayer, they think that they could
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act like dead pool and I'm like, bro You Wagh like a hundred twenty
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pounds, I will snap you in
half and you don't have deadpool's regenitiveability right,
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like I will fuck you up.
Stop. Stop being anning. Yeah,
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like, I get it being in
character, but when you see that
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you've pushed it to that point,
stop, yeah, walk away or stop
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just but even in that movie,
when I was like that's supposed to be
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dead, Oh my God, that's
bad. How do you take away the
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mouth? Take away the mouth of
the Merk with the mouth right, I
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was going to say of somebody who's
Tagline has to do with his his verbiage
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and is yeah, and that's and
that's what, that's his fucking thing.
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But yeah, and like you,
they gave him fucking cyclops has I.
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This is why I love the fact
in the last dead pool when he went
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back in time and shot deadpool in
the fucking head. So actually they talked
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to the directors and they talked to
the head of I think it's Sony that
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owned the x men at the time. Yeah, or no, Fox.
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It was Fox, yes, and
they talk to him in they're like so
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when he does that, did that
really happen? And then they're like yeah,
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that's canonical. So at the end
of Xmen, Wolverine Origins, deadpool
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actually comes in and shoots deadpool and
fucking head, which is the wolverines saw
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that. So we have actually had
a movie with Hugh Jackman's Wolverine and Ryan
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radolds deadpool together, because that is
actually came in in the story. Wolverine
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never fought him at the end.
Thank you. Mcu. Well, that's
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not even mcu. That's because deadpools
not part of the mcu. Deadpool never
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be a part of the mcu.
Well, he can't be because he's that's
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Disney. Well, but also he's
rated. Are Yes, Disney will never
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yeah, that's why I'm saying,
like mcu's Disney. No, there they
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can't, which is when they first
announced the first deadpool movie, I was
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like, how are you going to
make a deadpool movie for kids, because
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all these superhero movies are geared,
most of them are geared towards children.
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I think they were leased a PG
thirteen one. Yeah, I think they
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did. Hmm, I think they
did. I mean they'd be smart too,
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because it's like, even if I
had kids, I'm like no,
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I'm not going to let you see
that. It's a great freaking movie,
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but you didn't need to know what
a prison wall it is. It's like
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taking your kids to sausage party.
Please don't do that, please don't do
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that, Jesus. But yeah,
so that was my main one. There
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are a shit ton of other storylines
you guys should should read. Do you
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have any final words before I I
mean like the the the the new kick
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ass, or not origin, but
the new kick ass series with what's your
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faith from what's her face from New
Mexico? Yeah, I think that's that's
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a really good story that you guys
should look at and or look for,
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if you guys live in the Albuquerque, New Mexico area. Well, even
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if you don't. I mean it's
just a story of a mom trying to
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take seeing her kids start to gravitate
towards the rougher side of society and doing
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something about it. Yeah, it's
really good story. I also obviously love
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the whole kick ass story, because
then it kind of gives you empowerment to
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not necessarily become a vigilante, because
that's illegal, but take control of your
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your crime ridden area. If you
live in crist you know I mean,
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doing what you can to stop the
crime. Yeah, Dude, do the
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right thing, if it's, you
know, being a decent human being or
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picking up trash and in your local
parks or something like that. You know
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what I mean. It's it kind
of gives you an incentive to be a
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better neighbor. I guess I like
that. HMM. Yeah, you don't
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have to don a cowl or a
mask to be a better person in your
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neighborhood, and I I like that. I mean, if, well,
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you want to get into that,
I will. I would say Mr Rodgers
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is a superhero. Oh, yes, for bettering his neighborhood. Man,
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would you be my neighbor? He
taught us that it's okay to be different.
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Yeah, he also got in like
undressed in front of people, but
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then he got redressed. Yeah,
like, I don't know, like house
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shoes and like outside shoes. I
always thought that, like grandma and GRANDPA
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used to fuck with us. When
they're we're saying the war those who are
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outside shoes. But well, Le
See, a and I are apparently the
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only ones who have inside brooms and
outside brooms. Now you don't. I
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have inside brooms and outside will there
you go. I've always beenly. Yes,
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the old ones. Yeah, because
Jackie looked at us like we were
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done. I remember that. What
the hell, where's your outside brew?
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Why are you taking the broom they
used outside? Inside? That's not that's
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no, no, no, you're
bringing the germs, and I get it.
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It's kind of dumb because it's all
the same dirt and germs. Right,
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right, no, you haven't inside
broom and outside. Yeah, inside
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choosing outside shoes. Please explain.
Japan? Well, Japan just takes them
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off. Now they have their inside
choose. They have there like little well,
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the troubles, yeah, those aren't
shoot stubbles are troupos. They're not
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shoo. That's is really the only
stories that I have, but I stand
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out in my brain right now,
right now. Okay, so I have
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a bunch. Let me click over
to them. So I'm going to first
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bring up there's going to be a
couple classic spider man ones. First Classic
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Spider Man One I'm going to talk
about as sinister six, by Stanley and
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Steve ditko. This is amazing.
Spider man number one came out in one
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thousand nine hundred and sixty four,
and this is when doc ack, mysterio,
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electro, craven, Sandman and vulture, kidnap, aunt May and have
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spider man come to them. Ultimately
just trying to defeat spider man and they
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all attack him individually, each one
upping the antie with every fight, and
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it just puts him through this like
Instrumentamal Gauntlet, and so obviously spider man
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Gon comes out on top. But
I think this is the comic book that
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Puts Spider man kind of on the
map, not just in marvel but also
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in, you know, in the
DC universe. Yeah, it just showed
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he's not just some kid with,
you know, some goofy powers that he's
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actually got, you know, some
ump from some gumption and and as far
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as stories goes, this isn't the
most compelling, like in depth expose of
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freaking spider man or Peter Parker.
But it is a it's beautifully drawn and
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and colored. The Arts Amazing.
It's just that classic Spider Man Art.
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And Yeah, it shows spider man
whoop six bad guys asses. You also
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do this. You see the sinister
six again in the playstation four video game.
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It's really fucking cool. I loved
it. When I saw I was
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like, Oh shit, they're doing
sinners. It's a good cruise. I
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mean I only played the playstation one
game, which was fucking fantastic. Yeah,
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and that was like narrated by Bruce
Campbell, which I fucking love.
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Yea, because Sam Raymi was doing
those spider man hell yeah, and for
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those you don't know, the reason
why they're linked is that Sam Remi directed
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the evil deads and that's why every
times, Amory, Ramy, raybill all,
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every time Sam Remy does a movie, Bruce Campbell's in it. Second
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one I have for you is spider
man no more. This is from amazing
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spider man number fifty, and if
there's one word that describes this it's iconic.
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I mean the cover itself. I'm
pretty sure you can all picture it
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in your head, with the spider
man costume in a trash can and an
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Elie and Peter Parker is walking away
with back on it. And basically that
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sums up the entire story. Peter
Parker is tired of fighting for a city
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that is not only ungrateful but like
actively hunts him down as well, and
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he's like no, screw this,
I want to go be with Mary Jane,
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get married and have little spidy kids
and be done with this. But
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as he does leave, so he
definitely he drops the name of spider man.
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Uge He's just Peter Parker, doesn't
give a shit about the crime.
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And then with this a popular villain
in not just his comic book but also
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the daredevil comic books are rises,
and that's the king kingpin, Wilson Fisk.
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Seeing that spider man is gone,
he seeks to expand his criminal empire
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and he does and through the heightened
crime rate, spider Peter Parker ends up
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saving some dude that kind of reminds
him of Uncle Ben and then he starts
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to fucking thing like goal. With
great power comes with responsibility, Blah Blah
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Blass. He starts feel guilty,
he is like, fuck man, I
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have to be spider man. The
have to this is me. HMM.
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And so he does. And then
he fights King Ben King Penomas Kills Him
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with a Fucking Samurai Sword and boom, there you're done. If this sounds
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familiar, it is familiar because it
was in the second Sam Rami Spider Man.
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That was basically the plot for that
perfect. Now the last, the
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last spider man, like Classic Spider
Man Story Line. Number bring up is
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craven's last hunt and with that craven
part of the sinister six. He's probably
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the most goofy out of the sinister
six. He's like the fucking great white
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hunter. I think he's Russian,
not positive, but he wears like volodka
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pelts and drinks Voltka. I don't
know that, don't I don't think he
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ever drinking the Conflix, but but
yeah, he wears like all his like
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these pelts from animals he's killed in
the past, as you do, and
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the only reason he's hunting spider man
is because spider man is the ultimate prey.
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You know, he like most dangerous
game, right, right, right.
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The best thing to hunt is people, because they're actually smart. They
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think just like you in some ways. And so he does this. He
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actually does defeat spider man. You
shoot spider man, and actually buries him,
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thinking that he's dead. Spider man
tramphany like crawls out of his freaking
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grave and shit. One of the
cool things about this, though, is
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because I kept on bringing up the
pelts from all his kills, he actually
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dons spider man's black costume as his
pelt. That's that's like how you know
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he's how he does that. Spider
man comes back and Craven, I believe,
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eve in a he's like, basically, well, I've killed the ultimate
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thing. I have no reason to
live. Commit suicide in a fucking bathtub
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because, yes, because that's the
thing, because that makes sense. This
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isn't like the s common cartoon where
he's like, well, I'm just going
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to go off and go up in
the sunset, spider man, bubble Bab
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wall do fucking offs himself. Like
that's just dark on so many fucking little
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that's a lot. That's a little
rough to read about, even though,
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like we've read about like pretty rough
stuff. Yeah, we brought up,
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yeah, a lot of that stuff, but I mean in the killing joke,
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you see that Commissioner Gordon is subjected
to looking at a picture of his
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daughter in a pool of blood,
Naked Naka, and I'm on my like
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it because we talked about this in
the original recording of this episode and I
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was like, what is this?
What she raped? And it never says
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she was, but my sick little
brain was just it was never, never
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blatantly said, but it could be
implied that. Yeah, and I think
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that's like when you when you're ambiguous
like that, you let the reader make
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up. They fill in the details
and your own brain is going to be
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the most disgusting and depraved. Not
on purpose, but it's like shit,
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what the joker do? Yeah,
with a I mean that's let's be honest,
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she was hot. Yeah, so, yeah, not condoning it at
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all. Yeah, it's just gross. But that was craven's last hunt.
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Another one I'm going to go to
the DC side. I've talked about this
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before, is kingdom come. It
was a one thousand nine hundred and ninety
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six graphic novel by Mark Wade and
Alex Ross, painted by Alex Ross,
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and the reason why I say painted
because Alex Ross is super detailed and not
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even just detailed he is super realistic
in his paintings and I just love it,
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like the way he penned Russian say
pain weighting Superman. Superman wasn't like
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fucking Ronnie Coleman with muscles on muscles
on muscles. He was just a really
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tall, barrel chested big dude.
You know, you can tell he had
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muscles, right, he didn't have
a like a fucking bulging six pack.
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He's just huge, yes, like
a naturally big, fucking towering dude.
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Yeah, and just think, more
powerlifter than body builder. Yeah, so,
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yeah, so this book takes place
in the future. The Justice League
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has retired. So, like spider
man or Superman, cost lives in the
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fortres of solitude and like has a
farm there, which is funny. But
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the future has like a bunch of
these like new superheroes that are kind of
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they're fighting more each other over jurisdiction
than they are fighting bad guys and innocent
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people are getting hurt. Well,
wonder woman comes to Super Man. She's
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like hey, they're going to rally
around me because I'm kind of a fucking
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big deal, right, but more
people are going to come to our cause
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if you come with me and at
first he says no and then he eventually
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does. He comes out and it's
so freaking fun seeing like the Justice League
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old and for the longest time.
I'm not even going to go into that.
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One of the best parts about this. So it too is so Shazam,
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Captain Marvel, the DC Captain Marvel, not the marvel kept right,
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right right, the DC Captain Marvel. So Billy Baxton, when he says
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the magic words Shazam, turns into
Captain Marvel. HMM. Well, because
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it's in the future, Billy Baxton
is an adult who looks exactly like Captain
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Marvel. So he still says Shazam
to get his powers. But it's like
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00:32:49.460 --> 00:32:52.900
it's just funny that, yeah,
it's just the time with a Cape and
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special powers issue. We yeah,
well, and it's just that that they
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took that into consideration, that billy
would have grown up right, and they
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call him William. Oh No,
no, you don't call him William.
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But yeah, and then at the
end they actually and I one thing,
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it does speak on it. It
speaks on kind of like our commercial culture.
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00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:20.839
So there's this restaurant in there that's
called like the Justice League perfect and
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then like all the it's like Justice
League themed and like all the waiters and
449
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:30.750
waitresses are like dressed like Golden Age
Justice League characters. And so it's really
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funny because the end scene is Bruce
Wayne, wonder woman and Superman all sitting
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down having a meal and like the
green lantern comes and the green, quote
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unquote, the green lantern comes and
like serves them their fucking things, right.
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But the greatest part about that is
that Bruce Wayne deduces the wonder woman's
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pregnant. Oh yeay, and she's
he was like well, yes, you
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walked in and you were flesh and
you have seen you put on a little
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wit, a little bit of weight, and I ordered my scotch and you
457
00:34:02.650 --> 00:34:07.210
ordered water. You did in order
to drink. Did in order to drink
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with dinner. You're pregnant. And
it's just so good because that panel like
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when he when he just comes up
and says it all non nonchalantly and kind
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00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:17.599
of cocky in a way. And
that's another thing. Like the Bruce Lee,
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the Bruce Lee, the what?
I'm not going to get into that,
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nope. But yeah, so the
Bruce Wayne in this is actually kind
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of a fucking cocky asshole. Yeah, in this and I just love his
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attitude with everything. He's always making
snide comics and comments and like giving people
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like the side iron like a already
do that? Well, I already knew
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that. And like wonder woman and
Superman are like boll like mid bite,
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00:34:46.739 --> 00:34:52.059
jaws left a gape. Nothing gets
past me, says Bruce Wayne. Has
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Bruce Wayne, and it's fucking true. Another thing I like about Bruce Wayne
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too, though, in this is
because he's like a normal dude. He
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doesn't have super powers. He uses
like the frame of the bat suit to
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like keep his body intact. Yes, because he's he's Super Old, he's
472
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fucking old and he's a real fucking
person and everything hurts, because we know
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once you passed twenty five, everything
hurts. She's but the last one I'm
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going to talk about is Marvel's civil
war. That took place between two thousand
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and sixty two thousand and seven.
It was a yearlong story ARC and the
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civil war had its own title,
but every book in the Marvel Universe had
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tie ins to this and it was
super fucking brilliant. It actually in Captain
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America Civil War, the movie it
was is pretty fucking accurate. So basically
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the US government wants a superhuman registration
act to kind of regulate how they fight
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00:35:49.539 --> 00:35:53.329
crime, and iron man's all about
it and caps like no, because what
481
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if they send us to a place
that we don't think we should go?
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Yeah, freedom, freedom, America. Yeah, Mirocca. And so they
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start fighting in yeah, yeah,
yeah, no, it. And it's
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pretty good because, of course,
in the unsaved version of the episode,
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yeah, we kind of got into
the the mutants, the mutant registration act
486
00:36:17.869 --> 00:36:22.349
and stuff like that, and how
the mutants didn't come to the aid of
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the avengers when all the shit was
going down. And then how how,
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you know the avengers didn't come to
the mute's aid, yeah, when all
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00:36:30.269 --> 00:36:34.059
that show was going down. So
it's really interesting to see what they're going
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to do in the mcu, how
they're going to bring them in, Yep,
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but how how they they kind of
tied that in with civil war and
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the comic books ish kind of how
the mutants had to go through similar,
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00:36:45.260 --> 00:36:47.329
similar kind of thing. Well,
I mean it's not just similar, it's
494
00:36:47.329 --> 00:36:52.050
exact same thing. Yeah, there's
a moment in there and I think cap
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00:36:52.250 --> 00:36:57.849
is talking to storm and he's like, well, you join my cause and
496
00:36:58.010 --> 00:37:00.559
she says No. Where were you
when we were facing the mutant registration at
497
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where were the avengers? Hum,
you're on your own. Yeah, and
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00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:07.960
now some of the other like the
x men that were former avengers, like
499
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Wolverine, scarlet witch and all those
guys. Right, they do end up
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00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:17.150
helping cap. Yeah, for a
little bit, but it's like that whole
501
00:37:17.190 --> 00:37:21.230
thing. Like, Dude, brow, where were you? Yeah, we
502
00:37:21.389 --> 00:37:23.710
needed your help at a point and
you could have vouched for us. You're
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captain fucking America. You could have
vouched for us. You when you do,
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Yep, fuck you. So it's
going to be pretty interesting to see
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how the mcu ties that in,
which might be through one division, as
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00:37:32.619 --> 00:37:36.579
we talked about. I think it's
going to be through one division, but
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00:37:36.619 --> 00:37:38.420
I don't know, and that's one
of my biggest thing is I think because
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00:37:38.420 --> 00:37:42.619
of the multiple snaps. HMM.
So you had the snap with the Hulk,
509
00:37:42.860 --> 00:37:45.170
which is actually called the blimp,
the blip blip, it's called the
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blip, and you have the hulk
snap and that brings everybody back, but
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then literally within the same day you
have the iron man's iron man's name.
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So that might have fucked with like
this time space continuum and like merged.
513
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:04.159
And my whole thing is I think
it's going to merge to universes. Hmmm.
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00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:07.159
And so we have the mcu universe, but then we're going to have
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another universe that emerges with where there
is no avengers, there's only mutants.
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00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:15.510
HMM, like there was a Steve
Rogers that lived at one point, but
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he never became iron man or he
never burn captain America. Yeah, and
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00:38:20.070 --> 00:38:22.869
Tony Stark and all those things.
Right, you just had the mutants and
519
00:38:22.949 --> 00:38:28.420
then now they're all of a sudden
shoved into this world that has gone through
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five years of missing half the fucking
population and you know, within the last
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00:38:34.699 --> 00:38:38.420
fifteen years they've been attacked by aliens
and Shit. And then now you have
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people who aren't humans, who aren't
one hundred percent human, they are another
523
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type, another species of human.
So then you could even again. Not
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only are they from another universe and
that could have some bigotry, but their
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mutants. There's that bigotry thing right
there. So that could pull in the
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one of the things. The main
themes of all the xmen comic books have
527
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been acceptance and prejudice and stuff like. Yeah, and I think that that
528
00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:07.639
hits it on two fronts and I
think that would be fucking perfect, phenomenal
529
00:39:08.360 --> 00:39:15.429
phenom a hell. But that's in
my little brain. There's also a couple
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00:39:15.429 --> 00:39:21.869
more. Another one I would bring
up his Batman White Night. Long Story
531
00:39:21.949 --> 00:39:29.099
Short, Batman is caught basically roughing
up the joker and the joker presses charges,
532
00:39:29.900 --> 00:39:31.820
saying I was trying to take my
pills and he beat the fuck out
533
00:39:31.820 --> 00:39:37.659
of me. That's not right.
Joker wins the case. They put Batman
534
00:39:37.780 --> 00:39:42.409
in Arkham and then joker becomes Gotham's
white night, white pose to the Dark
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00:39:42.409 --> 00:39:45.289
Knight. Yeah, we have the
white face paint or the dark cowl.
536
00:39:45.570 --> 00:39:49.130
Right, right, right, really
fucking good, expertly written, fucking great.
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00:39:49.530 --> 00:39:53.480
Another one would be injustice he man. Yeah, basically in that in
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the injustice universe, Superman becomes a
basically godlike and becomes a detelitarian ruler of
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00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:06.719
the world and the Justice League like
goes to Eternia and they're like, Hey,
540
00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:10.590
we heard Heman is pretty fucking strong. We need your help to can
541
00:40:10.670 --> 00:40:15.949
you suppose? And they do and
it's so far, it's so fucking good.
542
00:40:15.190 --> 00:40:20.829
Yeah, as I a childhood he
man fan and seeing him punch superman
543
00:40:20.909 --> 00:40:24.739
in the fucking face. Hell,
yeah, awesome. Another one is doomsday
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clock, which brings the watchman into
the actual DC universe, because it's always
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been a DC type thing. Yeah, but now it brings them into the
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actual canonical normal world for them.
Yeah, Emerald twilight from the Green Lantern,
547
00:40:46.090 --> 00:40:49.730
Hal Jordan, the original green lantern, kind of goes nuts and starts
548
00:40:49.769 --> 00:40:52.559
killing the rest of the Green Lantern
Corps and getting all the fucking rings.
549
00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:57.119
Then he becomes parallax and he becomes
a bad guy for the fuck. Yes,
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00:40:57.559 --> 00:41:07.710
awesome, I'm green. Thatches the
shit. Oh, Infinity Gauntlet obviously
551
00:41:08.869 --> 00:41:15.590
the the original story of what the
mcu was based on. Maximum carnage from
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00:41:15.710 --> 00:41:19.940
spider man. Yes, fuck yes, I do remember that one. That
553
00:41:20.099 --> 00:41:22.380
one is this shit death is superman. Is actually really good, and not
554
00:41:22.460 --> 00:41:28.019
because I'm kind of a superman hater. It was like DC was like,
555
00:41:28.059 --> 00:41:30.099
we have all these superheroes. How
are we going to kill or how we
556
00:41:30.179 --> 00:41:35.010
going to get rid of them?
There? Let's have a fucking indestructible fucking
557
00:41:35.010 --> 00:41:38.610
dude come down and kill everybody.
Literally shoves Blue Beetles head through a tree.
558
00:41:38.650 --> 00:41:46.320
Awesome instead into it. So good, but it's really well written and
559
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:50.800
just being alive. When it actually
came out, it was all over the
560
00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:54.320
news like it was a big freaking
deal. Right. Any of the post
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nine hundred and eleven books? Those
are actually really good. The Spider Man
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One, yes, is that came
out after nine hundred and eleven is really
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good and just had been. Marvel
headquarters is in New York, so these
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writers and and everybody, they were
there. Right, they were in the
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00:42:14.230 --> 00:42:17.820
same city. So this is how
I think. I think this was there.
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Yeah, it hit home and I
think it was their catharsis to get
567
00:42:21.579 --> 00:42:24.820
over. Yeah, everything. Yeah, but in the spider man when spider
568
00:42:24.860 --> 00:42:28.900
man's wondering like how did we let
this happen? We can stop aliens from
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00:42:28.940 --> 00:42:32.289
coming down and destroying the world,
but we couldn't stop a terrorist attack,
570
00:42:32.329 --> 00:42:37.329
a terrorist attack. Yeah, and
even like the bad guys of the mcu
571
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were like you don't hit civilians,
you know, like Dr Doom, with
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Dr Doom was like he cried for
New York because he's like I always I
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00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:52.000
attack the fantast before I attack somebody
on my level. I don't attack innocent
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00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:55.880
right, people. Right, it's
actually very fucking touching to see all the
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superheroes not in like their superhero garb
mostly, but they're all wearing like fdn
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00:43:00.989 --> 00:43:07.030
why and NYPD, like cats and
shirts and stuff like that, and it's
577
00:43:07.110 --> 00:43:09.989
like, dude, this is man. It was good. Another post,
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00:43:10.110 --> 00:43:14.340
one eleven, was that Captain America, one after that EA, and that
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00:43:14.420 --> 00:43:17.659
one is a bit more of the
Catharsis because literally there's like for words in
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the whole fucking comic book and it's
just shows Captain American is see thirty and
581
00:43:22.340 --> 00:43:28.769
he's remembering Pearl Harbor and he's remembering
World War Two and he's like not again.
582
00:43:29.250 --> 00:43:32.690
You let it happen again, and
they drop him in Afghanistan without a
583
00:43:32.769 --> 00:43:37.329
parachute and he like creates this crater
in the middle of the desert and the
584
00:43:37.489 --> 00:43:40.599
rest of the pages are him just
fucking murking terrorists. Yeah, why should
585
00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:45.079
it? Shouldn't say, not necessarily
terrorist, but al Qaida. Right,
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00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:49.880
he's as beaten the fuck out of
all Qaida, and I don't mean shooting,
587
00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:53.679
literally beating them to death. And
like I mean like. I'm not
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saying yes, I am saying there
was guys, fucking bad guys, but
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I think it was. It was
a bit of a Catharsis for that writer
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to get over what he needed.
He needed to get something out. Yeah,
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you needed to to deal with what
you've experienced and what you've seen in
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a way that you're comfortable with and
you know how. And a lot of
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these these creators and writers and anchors
and illustrators and everything like that, you
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know this is this is their way
of getting their grief out in that way,
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the only way they know how.
Yeah, yeah, so, yeah.
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So that kind of concludes our favorite
comic books episode. If you guys
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have any suggestions yourself, for us
and for our listeners, will put them
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back. I will put them up
up there. Yeah, something a graphic
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novel. It doesn't have to be, you know, a whole series.
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It could it could be a single
book that that kind of touched you or
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something like that in a good way. Show me where the comic but see.
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So if you have suggestions or if
you're like hey, you know,
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this is the kind of literature I
like. What kind of comic books should
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I read? Right, right,
and I use work at comic bookshops.
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I think I'm pretty good at that. I think he's better than I am,
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for sure. So definitely like you're
like hey, so I like murder
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mystery and this stuff, and it's
probably not going to be a marvel or
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DC title. Is probably going to
be a dark horse or something like that.
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And now image is kind of just
boobs and violence. So some people
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might be into that. And and
if you're that cool, if you're into
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like more like the girl power stuff, Red Sonia actually last year just started
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again. Red Sony's the Shit.
I mean, obviously she's hot and she's
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a redhead, but I mean she's
a savage in a male obviously a male
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run world back in the day,
right in that universe, and she whoops
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ass. Yeah, I think that's
it. Is that concluding our recommendations?
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Would conclude? All right, this
is player to signing up for player one.
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Letting you guys know that with great
power comes great responsibility. Stay safe,
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stay sane, stay nerdy, nerdy. On Jolo, episode of
