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It surrounds us. It's everywhere. Tonight, you will hear from
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the people who live and work within these highly active locations.
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All in the efforts to discover America's Most Haunted. With
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your host, ghost hunter and author, Dan Terry.
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Good evening, boys and ghouls. I'm Dan Terry, your ghost
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host with The Most Haunted. And we're getting back into
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the ghost. I know we've done some other stuff recently,
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but let's talk about ghosts tonight. And I want to
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introduce you to my friend Angel Navarro. And he is
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the founder of P-I-W-I, which is a Wisconsin-based ghost hunting group, paranormal.
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His Facebook is now up to almost 7,000 followers. So
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he's got a lot of interesting stuff to talk about.
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His Facebook page is under P-I-W-I, and his YouTube page
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is raw, N-A-T-I-K, rawnatic. But he's got a lot of
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interesting stuff to talk about. He's into all mysteries, UFOs, ghosts, demonics,
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all of it. He's ready to talk about it. He's
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had some interesting adventures, and we're going to talk about
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some of that right now. So let's bring him on.
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This is Angel.
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Hi, Angel.
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Hello, hello. Thank you for having me today.
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Oh, thanks for coming on. It's intriguing. Whereabouts, Wisconsin, are you?
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I'm in the Lake Geneva area. That's in Wildworth County.
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I'm like maybe 15, 20 minutes away from Illinois.
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Okay. I'm familiar with the area then. So, and we've
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been talking a little bit and we've been chatting about
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some of the adventures he's had, but I'd like to
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get back to what got you started into doing paranormal stuff.
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What got you interested in?
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Okay, perfect.
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Um, so yeah, Man.
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Wow.
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When I was a child, I mean, um, I think
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probably like when I was five years old was my first, um,
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five or six years old was my first, uh, paranormal
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experience without even knowing it.
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Okay.
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Um, I was, you know, when you have your kid
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in bed and, um, you're playing with her and doing
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the little airplane thing and, you know, well, my mom
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was doing that to me and, uh, it was pretty late.
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My dad had got out of work pretty late, but
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we were kind of expecting him. So, um, where the
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position of the bed was that you could kind of
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see the door, and there was a light on in
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the hallway from the door. And I saw a shadow head, like,
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just popping his head in. I did it twice. So
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I told mom, I said, Mom, Mom, Dad's home. So
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she said, No, he's not home yet. And then she's
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still playing with me. While she was playing with me,
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she did peek, and she saw it herself. And she said, oh, yeah,
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it is your dad. Go down and see what he's doing.
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So I went down and, of course, nobody was there,
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you know. And, yeah, I ran back upstairs and I said, mom, no,
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nobody's there. And that's not here. And right there, the
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phone rang and it was my aunt's. my dad's sister,
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and saying that her chihuahua just gave birth to a
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couple of dead little chihuahuas. And I'm like, well, that's creepy.
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And me thinking now too, seeing the shadow. So since
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I was small, I've been seeing things. It kind of
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like runs in my family. I'm sure everybody in my
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family could sit down with you and give you a story.
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I actually sat down with my aunt and my cousin
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that came to visit me from Philadelphia.
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Two days ago.
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And the stories that they were telling me, I said, no, no,
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we got to go on, you know?
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Yes.
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I was, I mean, it really like freaked me out.
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And I was like, wow. So, you know, it runs
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in the family. And then a lot of Ouija board stuff.
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I remember when I was a kid, I'm going to
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Toys R Us and Abramingo Avenue in Philadelphia. And, My
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mom bought the Ouija board. I believe she bought the
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Ouija board because when she was going to college for
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medical secretary, her colleagues were playing with that at that time.
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This is probably the late 80s.
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Okay. So, yeah, at that time, there was a thing
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where actually a lot of people was going to Toys
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R Us out of all stores to buy that game.
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So anyway, my mom bought it when I remember that.
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Like if it was yesterday, the cashier register, it was
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a guy, young guy said, ma'am, are you sure you
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want to purchase this game? And my mom said, yeah, yeah,
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I want to purchase it. So he was like, he
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knew something, you know? So, you know, a lot of
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stuff with the Ouija board. I had an experience as well.
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Probably that month or a month in two months, probably
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the most after she bought that. Now, you know, she
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had passed it on to my aunt to try it out.
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You know, everybody wanted to try it out. So me
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and my cousins, very young at that time, we found
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it in the table and we took it and we
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started playing ourselves. And me, my cousin Amy, my cousin Natalie,
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we sat down and we played that and we saw
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this red smoke. I don't really remember the questions we
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were asking, but one of them was, can you tell
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us how you passed, you know? But anyway, we saw
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like this red smoke over the board and it definitely
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looked like a devil based figure and everything.
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And us three just ran out.
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That was one of the last things I remember when
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I was a kid doing the Ouija board. The other
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thing was when my mom had it, we lived in
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Northeast Philadelphia and her husband's uncle didn't believe in that
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at all, at all. And we're telling him, you know,
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At this time, I mean, we shouldn't even have it
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in the house. But, you know, we're telling him, don't
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say that about this. Don't say that about that. And
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he ended up playing it just to see if he
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could convince himself. And it started moving. And he literally
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blamed everything on, like, his nephew and stuff like that.
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And when I was walking, the dresser and the TV
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that was on top of the dresser just... threw itself
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on top of me. And my stepfather was, if he
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wasn't been there, I would have been hurt very bad.
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And that happened as soon as he hit the Ouija
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board and just like flicked it off the table, basically. Wow.
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Yeah.
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So that was that with the Ouija board. And then,
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I mean, you know, when you go online and you
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try to search something and sometimes you don't know what
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to search. Well, that's what happens with me when we
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talk about paranormal stuff, because so many stories that I
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know and so many things that I've been through.
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Um, it's, it's, I just talk about it.
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Yeah. I get chills, but like normal, you know, like,
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because I mean, I'm just, it happens, you know?
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So I'm so used to it.
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Um, yeah. So that happened with, Oh, I have my
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aunt one time when I was young as well. We
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didn't have a Ouija board, but we wanted one. And, um,
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So I took a back of a checkerboard and I
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started drawing everything on the Ouija board on it. And
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I went and I grabbed a glass from my grandma's
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kitchen and we started asking questions and it was actually moving.
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Three weeks or two weeks ago, I had her here
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and I asked her before I came on with you,
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I want to double check. Was it me or was
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that thing really moving? And she said, no, it wasn't moving.
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I'm like, okay, that's what I thought. We both freaked
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out at that time. So then we decided to go
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to the basement and do Bloody Mary.
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Oh God.
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So we went to the basement and we found the
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mirror and we, you know, shut the light on. We
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put the knife behind the mirror and we're Bloody Mary,
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Bloody Mary, you know, 10 times, whatnot. Nothing happens. We
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did it like three times. The third time we see
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like two red lights. It looked like lights to me, like, eyes,
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but they were lit up like LED lights. Just two
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of them in front of us. If there's something, they're
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just straight looking at us face to face, but we
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can't really quite see it because it's dark.
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That freaked us out.
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Sometimes even when people don't believe in Bloody Mary or
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certain superstitions like that, if you believe sometimes certain spirits
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or souls or even bad things out there. I don't
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even like saying the demons and stuff like that. You know, they,
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they'll take control over that. They'll take advantage of those moments,
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you know? So whether it was Bloody Mary or not,
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there was something there anyway.
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Angel, let me ask you this one because of, oh gosh,
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I guess it's been about seven, eight years ago now.
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When I was in St. Louis in a Barnes and Noble,
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they had stacks of Hello Kitty, Ouija board. for kids.
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No way.
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Oh, yeah. I almost bought one for a friend of
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mine who got a Ouija board museum. I should have
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done that. What's your opinion? Is this a game or
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is this way more serious?
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Yes.
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I think this is something way more serious. This is
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something spiritual. I think a lot of people right now
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are being more woke. They're being awake and they're realizing
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a lot more than what they were told or what
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they actually saw themselves. You know, I think it's growing
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out there. And like I said, the negative could try
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to take over the positive. So you're a positive person.
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You're going to play a game like that. The negative
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is going to look for that. I believe it's not
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a good thing. what type of game is it? You know,
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you don't have no dice. You don't got no cards.
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It's just talking to what, you know, you're talking to spirits.
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You're talking, you know, you know, some people say you're
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talking to the universe, but what in the universe are
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you trying to reach? You know, it's still something spiritual.
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It's not something human being like me and you, you know,
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flesh and blood. And with a lot of, I mean,
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I could, I don't know how many episodes or seasons
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you want to do with me, but let me tell you,
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when my mom bought that Ouija board, she bought it
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and her friend bought it too. Now she was going
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to college to be a medical secretary. Like I told you,
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and her, um, her friend bought one and everybody's, you know,
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the rule don't play by yourself.
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Sure.
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Well, she was playing by herself with the Ouija board
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and the kids asleep and she's playing and playing, playing
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with that thing. That thing got attached to her. Like
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it really liked, It really liked conversing with her. And
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when she wanted to stop conversing, it didn't want to stop.
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This is a story probably my mom will be better
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to tell. But long story short, the house fell on fire.
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Before she ran out, the baby's room was lit on
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fire and the door did not want to open. There
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was a baby in the crib. When she went into
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the crib, the baby was levitating from the mattress from
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the crib, levitating. And she placed a rosary cross on
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the baby's forehead. It burned them. They say that to
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this day, he still has the mark. And then the
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firefighters came and did what they had to do.
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And a couple other stories.
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From that family as well that I was told. And
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some stuff, it's hard for even me to say that
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I kind of don't believe, but if it happened to
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happen at this stage of age, we got to believe
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almost anything right now, man.
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Well, all right. Now you have dealt with this sort
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of stuff. You've dealt with the Ouija board. What advice
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do you give to other people?
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You know, it's exciting. And a lot of people like
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the adrenaline, right?
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You know, it's when you, us ghost hunters, you know,
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they kind of don't want to do it, but you do,
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you know, to see what happens. Um, and of course
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there's those that just go for it.
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They do it.
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They don't, you know, no, no chill in their bone
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at all. They just go ahead and start doing it. Um,
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if you are going to do it, be very careful,
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be very, very, very careful. And, um, Be careful what
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you ask, what you ask. There was a lot of questions,
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like I was saying, like, who am I speaking with?
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And then they'll go ahead and tell you who and
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who are they? They'll say, I don't know, they were
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a lawyer. And then, you know, the conversation just starts
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to get deep. Like, you know, he was strangled to
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death or, you know, things. And it gets deep and
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it could attach to you. And when you least expect it,
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you know, sometimes people have gone months with nothing happening
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to them and then something do.
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Right.
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And I think that's well expected now that demons take
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their time. They're not in any hurry.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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They sometimes look for the right moment. And it's usually
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unexpected for us.
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And do you feel like that's what you were dealing with?
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Well, now that I go back and think of it, yeah.
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Yeah, absolutely. I remember some people that we talked to
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through there saying they were murdered and the way they
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were saying that they were murdered and stuff.
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It was pretty sketchy.
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I'm sure there was words that me and my cousins
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didn't even know how to pronounce at that time.
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But it was scary.
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Also, when I was young and in middle school in Philadelphia,
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North Philadelphia, kind of bad, right? But when I didn't
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go to school and when I was supposed to be
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in school, you know, the group of guys will always
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go to abandoned factories just to explore, you know, anything bad,
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but just to explore. And there was these gigantic, gigantic
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factories that to this day, I still want to know
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what type of factory it was, but it was very, very,
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very old. And it kind of looked like a mall.
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It connected from one side to the other, like over
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like a bridge and everything and elevators and stuff. But
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these factories burnt down years ago. So in North Philadelphia,
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there's a lot of poverty. A lot of people out there,
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no homes or nothing. A lot of drug addiction. I
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don't know if you ever heard of Kensington in.
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Philadelphia.
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I was born and raised there and it's rough. A
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lot of drug addicts everywhere and They.
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Don't know where to go. So what you're going to do,
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you're going to go to an abandoned place. Right.
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So a lot of them overdose in those factories.
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Those buildings.
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A lot of a lot of bad things happened to
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them there and they died. So when we went over there.
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We used to go there a lot. We will always
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hear footsteps. Oh, wait, somebody's coming. You know, we're thinking
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maybe it's the school cop or something. I don't know
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where we're kids. And we go and we check, nothing.
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We'll see apparitions, shadow people. We'll hear like whispering. We'll
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hear like rocks, little pebbles being thrown towards us. A
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lot of stuff that now that I'm into this more,
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I'm thinking like, I should have just left that place
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as soon as I heard one thing, you know, but
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you know, us as kids and being with a group,
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a nice size group, we're just exploring and mind you,
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we can't be out anyway, cause then we'll get busted. Right. So,
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so we went through a lot there too. And there
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was a big fire that burned a lot of people.
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So you think there might've been spirits in there of
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the folks who had a tragic deaths?
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Absolutely. Absolutely.
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You know, they say that, um, You know, there's people
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that don't cross the other side. Spirits that don't cross
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the other side, they're still roaming. Sometimes they're roaming in
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the area where they pass. You know, some of them
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go to where their loved ones are at. That's why
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you might experience something in your home from a family
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member or something like that.
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Right.
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But yeah, for sure. For sure. I don't know how many,
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but for sure.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Well, now that you've been doing that, how long have
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you been doing the ghost hunting thing?
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Well, we always had a, I mean, going, doing this
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probably since.
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The pandemic, maybe. Okay. I'm guessing, you know, I was
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at the house and a little bit more extra time. And,
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you know, that was like, I'm into all types of
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theories and conspiracies and all that stuff. So that was
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a big one too. And we got into all that. And, uh,
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When I was young, my mom used to always love
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gathering us kids just to say scary stories.
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Yeah.
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And the scary stories will come late at night after
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watching a horror movie. True story, man. All my cousins
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could tell you. But fun times. Oh, man, did she
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scare the crap out of all of us.
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But, yeah, fun times. That always been in the family.
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So, yeah. Yeah.
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Okay. Very young.
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All right.
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You had a quite the adventure at your sister's place
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and you gave me a good story about her. You
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told me about it earlier. Can you bring that up again?
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Yes.
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That's when I, like I was saying, I did a
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deliverance without even knowing what it was.
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Yeah.
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So there was a moment and I'm actually, I'm going
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to tell you a couple of things that's very important.
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that I didn't get to. Um, so my sister, she
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was going through a lot of stuff in the house. Um,
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you know, she was, she was stressing and it was
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just something very negative. I go into the house or
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apartment and, you know, it would like drain me. It
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was going on for a while. You know, people got
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the ups and downs, but it was just something that
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was going on for a while. And, um, it got
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to a point where, um, now she's starting to see and, and,
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and hear and, and feel things. And you know, I'm
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thinking like, you know, mama, you probably need more sleep.
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you know you i'm thinking you know trying to think
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what could all that be and the thing was that
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um she was cleaning the her son's my nephew's uh
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bedroom and uh you know how you rearrange the mattresses
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from one side of the room to the other so
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she did that and she placed a big a pretty
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big size Mickey Mouse stuffed animal right in the middle
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of the bed, you know, decoration and stuff. So she
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leaves the room, come back, and the bed is back
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to where it was the first time. So the bed,
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you could tell that somebody dragged it from one side
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to the other because you could see the drag marks.
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On the rug. So, you know, She thought about it
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and thought about it. She said, you know what? Maybe
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I didn't do it. Maybe.
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I don't know.
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Let me do it again. So she went and she
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did it again. And she got the same results. And
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also the Mickey Mouse stuffed animal was sitting in the
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middle of the room looking towards the door. So that
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kind of freaked her out. Of course, she calls me
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and tells me about it. And I'm like. OK.
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You take some pictures.
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And she sent me some pictures from the baby's room,
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which I edited later on. And I see something that
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I'll get to in a second. I'll tell you in
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a second. But she ended up having scratches on her shoulder.
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And when I was editing those photos and doing the
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exposure and all that stuff on the photos when you're editing,
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it kind of pops out and you can see a D-E-V-I-L.
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you know, what that stands for. So that was scratched
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on her shoulder. And then there was like some type
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of satanic scratch symbol, kind of like the Blair witch symbol, um,
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on her neck as well. So then it was time
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to bring in my PIWI.
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Right.
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Right.
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So we went in there, you know, we put cameras
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all over my mom, went and took the baby out,
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took the, um, the dog out. We locked the door.
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I got all that in footage right here in front
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of me in my computer.
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She grabbed the Bible.
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She picked some verses that she was going to start
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praying from the back of the house all the way
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towards the front of the house. That's how we were
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going to start working. So we went from her bedroom
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down to the bathroom, then to her daughter's room, then
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to her son's room, the living room, kitchen, and out
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the dining room. The door's right there. So that's what
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we were going to do. So every time I was
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saying the name of the Lord, not at that moment,
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but when I went back and did hours and hours
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of just listening to the sound footage of each room
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throughout that, I think it was 40 minutes that we
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were in there. Every time I said in the name
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of the Lord, in the name of Jesus, please go.
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You will hear from the bathroom camera. not all the cameras,
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but from the bathroom camera, you could hear like, like,
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like when the Exorcist movie, when they throw the holy
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water on the Exorcist and they start, you know, moving
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and acting all crazy.
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It sounded just like that.
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I have the, the sound audio to that as well.
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And so she sent me the pictures. And when I
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was also doing checking the pictures out and stuff, we
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came across that one picture that I edited. I sent
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you a copy of that, but I do have one
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that's even more further edited where you could see not
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just a beast face in the closet of her son's room.
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It doesn't have a body. It just has goat legs
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around the head. Kind of looking like a sun. So
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the sun with the rays, but it was a beast
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head with goat's legs around. Okay, so I did further
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checking on that. Don't ask me where I went for
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this because I just go on the computer and I search, search.
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Sometimes I don't even know where I'm at, but I
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find it. And I find, I'm not going to mention
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the name of it, but it has a name. It
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is the Demon of Disorder. And that kind of explains
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her household, how it felt so crazy and just negative
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and that heavy weight when people go in and like
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drain you like a battery. When we were praying and
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saying what we were saying, I started saying stuff I
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don't even remember. I go on the videos and I'm like, oh,
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I said all that. Okay. So when we were on
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the way out, halfway, my mom, she was trying to
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get in too. She said, hey, I got to come
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in now. I got the baby, I got the dog.
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So she couldn't come in because we had locked the door.
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So when we finished everything, I heard a silence. Like
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if a pin drop will fall, you'll hear it clear
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as day. A big silence, man. And the door unlocked.
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Like if it had let itself out. So I feel
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that whatever it was, we took it out. And not
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just that, my sister does and did feel way better
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and haven't had experienced.
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Anything like that ever again.
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And the apartment building where she lives at, I'm sure
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there's been moments where people have passed and stuff like
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that because it's an older building as well. But yeah,
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that was my first experience Deliverance that I've done. My
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only one that I have done that I actually had
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time and dedication to do that. Plus, it was my sister,
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you know, who don't want to help your own sister
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and your nephew and niece and stuff. So we kind
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of went hard on that.
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And we... When you believe and you do things from
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the heart, it works.
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It works. If it's not working, you got to believe more.
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And use your heart big time.
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Because.
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If you go to Raw Natick on my YouTube channel,
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I started with a lot of paranormal stuff. But there's something, Dan,
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that I started doing. I started putting a lot of
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beautiful videos of nature.
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Now.
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And it's like, why? Why from paranormal, from the darkness
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to the clarity now? There's a lot of love out
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there and a lot of people got to understand that
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love is powerful. And especially when it comes to something
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like this, when you're, what's the opposite of love?
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Hate.
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What's hate negative? Hate is, it's just the bad stuff
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that comes with it, you know? So instead of waking
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in the morning and looking at your news and seeing,
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Bad news. You know, that's how I started putting like,
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cause where I work at in front of where I
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work at is the Lake Geneva Lake is called Geneva Lake.
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Right. And it's beautiful.
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You know, I had, I had asked God, I was like, God,
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let me help me wake up every morning. Like the
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old people to see the sunrise and drink coffee and
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listen to the birds.
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Cause I love that.
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That's beautiful.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He said, you want that? Okay, I'll give you a job.
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00:27:51.170 --> 00:27:56.640
You start at 2 a.m. True story. True story.
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00:27:56.700 --> 00:27:59.440
And I got a whole bunch of other occasions like that, too,
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that he answered.
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He answered.
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It's amazing. Unless it happens to you, man. I mean,
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you know, you just got to believe and have a
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00:28:08.710 --> 00:28:17.500
good heart. And love is what overcomes hate, negativity, because,
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you know, love is positivity.
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Yes. So, yeah.
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Okay. Hey, listen, Angel, I got to step away for
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a minute. I'm a little overdue for a commercial, but
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if you'll wait there, I'll be right back. We're going
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to bring up those pictures you sent and talk about those, okay?
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Sounds good.
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00:28:33.690 --> 00:28:37.539
All right, buddy, stand by. This is an interesting one,
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00:28:37.740 --> 00:28:42.660
and if you guys know, and I've told you before,
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00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:47.279
I've dealt with one possible demonic thing, and I actually
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00:28:47.319 --> 00:28:51.279
called in experts to do it because I'm not I
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00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:54.349
don't think I'm ready for that. But they did a
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00:28:54.369 --> 00:28:59.369
great job. And it's interesting to hear his take on
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00:28:59.390 --> 00:29:04.150
that because he kind of wandered into it. But he
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00:29:04.170 --> 00:29:06.819
did good from what I'm hearing. I think he did
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00:29:06.859 --> 00:29:10.119
real good. Hey, listen, I got something for you to watch.
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So if you'll check this out real quick. And my friends,
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I will be back in just a moment.
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All right, guys, got to tell you a little bit
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about the Unexplained Network because it's, again, growing. And I
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say that every week, but it is. We just got
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a new one, a new UFO expert with a show on.
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It's incredible. It's going to be starting here real quick. And,
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of course, we still got all our cryptids. We got
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all our paranormal people. We've got Margie Kay out of
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Kansas City. We've got Michelle Roos out of Iowa. Now
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we've got a group out of Ohio that I've actually
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worked with all three of these people, and they're incredible,
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amazing ghost hunters. The folks out of Ohio, that's Iron
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City Paranormal, worked with them at the Blenner Hosset down
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in West Virginia. And the serial killer spirit down there
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that's pretty interesting and Boy, I heard ghosts say things
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I hadn't heard a ghost say before. Come right out
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over the spirit box, and it was pretty rough. But anyway,
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there's a lot going on, and you can be part
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of this. Just go to Annex Network or Annex.com, if
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you will, but either one will get you there. And
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first page, drop down a little bit. You've got the
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paperwork or the whatever you call it, blanks to fill in.
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And you can become a member. There are several different
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ways to do it. And if you're a member, first
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thing you're going to get is the blog. And guys,
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00:32:12.500 --> 00:32:14.920
and I've told you before, I know we have been
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so far ahead of regular mainstream media on this. The blog,
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we were ahead of them on the Tic Tacs. We're
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ahead of them on the missing scientists and cryptid reports
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popping up out of different areas of the country. There's
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a lot of that. And we're right there on it.
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00:32:34.059 --> 00:32:36.460
That's the blog. We also got the newsletter. It comes
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00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:39.380
out weekly. It talks about what shows are on. And
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usually there's a story of some sort in there. And then,
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of course, once a month, if you're a member, you
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get the Unexplained magazine coming right to you through the email.
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And it's got some of the best writers you can imagine.
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This is a couple of the issues. And the one
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on the left there, I actually had two articles on
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that one. One was about the haunted battleship, North Carolina.
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And the other one was about legends of Halloween. And
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I'm not talking about the headless horsemen or stuff like that.
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I'm talking about back when we were kids or when
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I was a kid. And they would tell us they're
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putting LSD in the candy. They're putting razor blades in
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the apples. They're poisoning kids. There's a cult that's kidnapping
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children and sacrificing them if they've got blonde hair and
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blue eyes. A lot of stuff going on. And there
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00:33:34.410 --> 00:33:39.039
was always just a kernel of truth in every one
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of those legends. And that's what I dug out there.
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00:33:41.779 --> 00:33:46.059
And of course, I've written one on haunted dolls, which
581
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was tough for me because I absolutely, absolutely hate dolls. Creepy.
582
00:33:52.900 --> 00:33:56.769
And I did one here on the last call at
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the Devil's Diner. That was a a very, very haunted
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old restaurant that had been on Route 66 since back
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00:34:03.670 --> 00:34:09.869
in the 50s, and it was extremely haunted. One night,
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00:34:09.929 --> 00:34:12.699
it picked up about a 320-pound man and threw it
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up against the wall. It was incredible what all went
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on in there, and I went back there three or
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four times, maybe more than that. It was just an
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00:34:22.619 --> 00:34:25.320
incredible place, but a tornado hit it a couple about
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a year ago, a little over a year ago, and
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pretty much destroyed it. So it's gone now. The old
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Diamonds or the old Tri-County Truck Stop, it had both names.
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00:34:36.630 --> 00:34:39.869
But that's the kind of stuff that gets written about
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in these magazines. We hit places near you, I'm sure.
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So check it out. Go to unexnetwork.com for the Unexplained
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Magazine and decide if you want to try it out.
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00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:55.780
But there's some really great articles in there. And of course,
599
00:34:55.860 --> 00:35:00.320
all of our in-house shows are on YouTube for free,
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00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:03.599
just like this one is. So what are you waiting for?
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You need to come and check it out. All right,
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00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:07.969
let's go back and talk to Angel some more because
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I like what he's doing here. And he sent some
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photographs we need to take a check on. Now, this
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00:35:14.250 --> 00:35:19.269
first one is the closet in your sister's son's room, correct?
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Correct. Yes, that is a picture that I took before
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I had taken the other one and started editing it.
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So that's the original picture, actually. You don't see much
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to it, but once you start doing the editing, you
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00:35:38.849 --> 00:35:39.929
kind of get that figure.
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00:35:40.269 --> 00:35:44.650
Okay, now where in this picture is what you blew
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up and sent to?
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Okay, if you put the other one, the other picture?
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Uh-huh.
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You'll see, if you look real hard, kind of.
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Like in that black area, just in the bottom left
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of that towel that's hanging. Yes. Kind of like greenish.
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And then the other picture, I believe it pops out
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a little bit more. All right.
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This one?
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Yes.
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Yeah, it does.
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00:36:16.570 --> 00:36:19.329
Now, again, when I looked at that with my phone,
624
00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:23.880
and I did the editing on my iPhone, I would
625
00:36:23.980 --> 00:36:28.679
see the head of the beast more clearer than what
626
00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:32.880
it looks there on picture. And I also see these
627
00:36:33.460 --> 00:36:36.920
goat legs, at least it looked like goat legs around
628
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the head. So it didn't have a body. It was
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just the head. And then a whole bunch of, you know,
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goat legs around it. Kind of like a star or
631
00:36:46.210 --> 00:36:50.449
something like that, you know, but very, very, yeah, it was,
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And I looked it up, and it had a name.
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00:36:54.590 --> 00:36:56.130
I don't like to say the name of the demon,
634
00:36:56.170 --> 00:37:00.340
but it's the Demon of Disorder. Okay. That kind of
635
00:37:00.380 --> 00:37:04.940
explains why that was in my sister's house, and that's
636
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why she was going through a lot.
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00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:12.320
It's got to be a very powerful spirit to move
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a bed around.
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00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:18.539
Yeah, it wasn't a huge bed, but still, you know.
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Even if you see a teddy bear moving and nothing's moving,
641
00:37:22.849 --> 00:37:27.110
you imagine a bed, you know? So, yeah. That's why
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I said it was something strong. You know, everybody has
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their own aura, their own.
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Ancestors.
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00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:40.659
You got your spirits your way. And when I say
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your way, it's like if you come across another person
647
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:46.559
that has spirits that's not your way, they're going to clash.
648
00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:48.079
Okay, yeah.
649
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You know, because maybe their spirits that hang with them
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or ancestors, maybe they were bad, you know, and yours are,
651
00:37:58.909 --> 00:38:01.989
you know, protecting you and, you know, they're holding you
652
00:38:02.030 --> 00:38:03.750
down and, you know, they don't want nothing bad to
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come to you. So sometimes when you go into a room,
654
00:38:06.269 --> 00:38:12.900
you could feel the vibes of the person. And, yeah,
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00:38:12.940 --> 00:38:16.239
I think, you know, you could do a lot just
656
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:19.170
by feeling that, you could tell a lot.
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00:38:19.570 --> 00:38:22.409
You know, they say, don't judge a book by its cover. Yes,
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that's true.
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00:38:23.909 --> 00:38:28.329
But you could feel the negativity, especially a lot of
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00:38:28.349 --> 00:38:31.860
people that have the gift. You know, because I do
661
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:34.920
know people, actually, that to this day, older than me,
662
00:38:34.940 --> 00:38:38.659
that have not went through anything at all. Right. Don't,
663
00:38:38.699 --> 00:38:41.579
you know, don't feel any bad vibes. And I'm like,
664
00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:43.909
oh my God, you know, I felt real bad vibes
665
00:38:43.929 --> 00:38:44.710
from this person.
666
00:38:44.730 --> 00:38:45.269
I don't know.
667
00:38:45.969 --> 00:38:48.280
You know, so... Maybe they.
668
00:38:48.380 --> 00:38:52.320
Weren't clashing with theirs, and theirs were clashing with mine.
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00:38:52.340 --> 00:38:55.369
Because they say there's a spiritual war out there.
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00:38:55.429 --> 00:38:55.789
I don't know.
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00:38:56.789 --> 00:38:59.250
I can believe that. And then you sent me pictures
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of the injuries that your sister suffered through.
673
00:39:03.429 --> 00:39:08.019
Yeah, that's the one that when you expose that on
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00:39:08.059 --> 00:39:10.840
the editing app on the iPhone, you can definitely see
675
00:39:10.900 --> 00:39:16.639
clearly where it says D-E-V-I-L. My daughter. Was actually the
676
00:39:16.739 --> 00:39:20.670
one that spotted that. And I looked it over and
677
00:39:20.690 --> 00:39:23.650
I did more deep diving in it. And yes, it
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00:39:23.710 --> 00:39:26.820
saves it you definitely see it um and the other
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00:39:26.860 --> 00:39:30.539
picture was when she got scratched on the neck that
680
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:35.320
same night if you look close um you can see
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00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:40.230
like that a with that line going across it on
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the top of the a kind of like the Blair
683
00:39:42.429 --> 00:39:48.230
Witch Project symbol um And of course I wasn't there either. Um,
684
00:39:48.769 --> 00:39:50.809
and she had some scratches on her back as well.
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00:39:52.630 --> 00:39:52.909
Yeah.
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00:39:53.130 --> 00:39:55.400
So something there was moving things. Like you said, it
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was powerful and it was, it was already hurting her.
688
00:39:57.780 --> 00:40:02.139
So how long did it take for the, um, scratches
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to heal?
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00:40:04.820 --> 00:40:10.690
Um, I, I want to say maybe, maybe two weeks. Um,
691
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because I remember, I remember her, um, showing me in
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another video, and I remember her saying, oh, it's been
693
00:40:18.300 --> 00:40:22.159
already two weeks, but you can still see a little bit. Yeah,
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I think around two weeks.
695
00:40:23.420 --> 00:40:26.460
Wow. That seems like a long time for those scratches.
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00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:30.239
Yeah, and she said they would sting. They would sting
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00:40:30.260 --> 00:40:32.989
a lot. Usually, they sting in the beginning, like when
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00:40:33.030 --> 00:40:37.530
a cat scratches you, it stings or whatever. But it
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00:40:37.550 --> 00:40:39.590
was stinging a lot for a couple of days.
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00:40:39.610 --> 00:40:40.349
OK.
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00:40:41.619 --> 00:40:44.530
Angel, what else are you doing? Active ghost hunting now?
702
00:40:45.789 --> 00:40:47.929
I wish I had the time to, you know, so
703
00:40:47.989 --> 00:40:51.469
I gather a little, I just bought my first, what
704
00:40:51.530 --> 00:40:51.769
is it?
705
00:40:51.969 --> 00:40:56.710
Uh, EVP, uh, electric voice. What is it? What is it?
706
00:40:56.849 --> 00:40:58.989
I forgot what it was. The one that I got
707
00:40:59.030 --> 00:41:03.139
the light that tells you there's a, um, electrical magnetic field.
708
00:41:03.739 --> 00:41:05.139
Yeah. The EMF detector.
709
00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:08.519
Yeah. So I just bought one of those and, uh, yeah,
710
00:41:08.539 --> 00:41:12.030
I haven't played around with it yet. Um, But no,
711
00:41:12.090 --> 00:41:14.880
I just, you know, I just like to look at
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00:41:14.889 --> 00:41:19.420
my page and see if I do receive any messages
713
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:21.440
of people that want to share their stories. You know,
714
00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:25.519
I did have a few messages on my PIWI page
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00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:27.539
where people has asked for help.
716
00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:31.050
And unfortunately, with.
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00:41:30.909 --> 00:41:34.849
My busy, busy schedule and a lot of the places
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00:41:35.650 --> 00:41:36.849
are very far from me.
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00:41:37.699 --> 00:41:39.860
Um, you know, it's impossible for me to make it, but,
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00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:40.900
you know, I always, uh.
721
00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:44.550
Try to share what I would think they should do. Um,
722
00:41:44.889 --> 00:41:46.829
and you know, there've been moments where people have said
723
00:41:46.869 --> 00:41:51.710
that it's helped and thanks and, um, not many, but, um,
724
00:41:51.750 --> 00:41:53.969
it's been a few and I've been, you know, happy
725
00:41:54.030 --> 00:41:56.030
to respond to them. And, um, and I'm open to
726
00:41:56.110 --> 00:41:58.530
anybody just, even if they want to share their story,
727
00:41:58.789 --> 00:42:01.559
you know, um, and compare things, you know, maybe I
728
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:04.599
went through some things like right now, We didn't really
729
00:42:04.659 --> 00:42:07.489
talk much about aliens and UFOs. I don't know.
730
00:42:07.780 --> 00:42:08.619
Oh, go right ahead.
731
00:42:10.150 --> 00:42:12.449
I only been through one.
732
00:42:14.929 --> 00:42:16.969
Moment in my life where I thought it probably was
733
00:42:16.989 --> 00:42:22.320
going to get abducted. Other than that, nothing ever, ever
734
00:42:22.380 --> 00:42:25.000
else happened. But me and my sister, we were young.
735
00:42:25.039 --> 00:42:27.500
We were sharing one room. She had her bed in
736
00:42:27.539 --> 00:42:29.480
the far side of the room. I had my bed
737
00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:32.320
in the far side of the room. And there's a
738
00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:34.800
window in the middle. It's one of those windows that's
739
00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:42.380
not vertical, they're horizontal. So when we were sleeping, we
740
00:42:42.420 --> 00:42:46.619
saw this bright, bright light just shining in the room.
741
00:42:47.179 --> 00:42:51.980
And we're in the second floor. And it's like a spotlight.
742
00:42:53.699 --> 00:42:56.889
It's kind of like scanning the room from side to side.
743
00:42:57.909 --> 00:43:00.849
And we didn't let that light touch us.
744
00:43:01.150 --> 00:43:01.369
We.
745
00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:05.400
My sister kept going back towards the wall. I went
746
00:43:05.460 --> 00:43:08.909
back towards my wall, and it was barely, barely almost
747
00:43:08.989 --> 00:43:12.170
touching us, the light, but we didn't let it touch us.
748
00:43:13.909 --> 00:43:17.269
After a while, it went away, and me and my
749
00:43:17.389 --> 00:43:20.050
sister looked out the window. I mean, what were we
750
00:43:20.070 --> 00:43:22.579
going to see? We didn't hear no helicopters. We didn't
751
00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:24.440
see none of that, and there's a second floor. There's
752
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:26.460
nobody going to be in front of the window with
753
00:43:26.480 --> 00:43:29.099
a flashlight or something. So.
754
00:43:30.809 --> 00:43:34.030
That was that one incident. And then I believe that
755
00:43:34.139 --> 00:43:38.820
same week, it wasn't the same day. Cause I don't
756
00:43:38.860 --> 00:43:41.400
remember that much, but if it wasn't the same day
757
00:43:41.420 --> 00:43:44.840
or the next day, that week, I ended up waking
758
00:43:44.940 --> 00:43:48.460
one night, one day with, um, absolutely no clothes on,
759
00:43:49.500 --> 00:43:54.110
no clothes on at all. And I mean, I would
760
00:43:54.130 --> 00:43:57.150
never take my clothes off, especially if I know my
761
00:43:57.210 --> 00:44:01.329
sister's in the freaking room, you know, And what makes
762
00:44:01.369 --> 00:44:03.889
me think about it is that my oldest daughter, a
763
00:44:04.329 --> 00:44:07.869
couple years ago, she's 24 going on 25 right now.
764
00:44:07.909 --> 00:44:11.110
And a couple years ago, she said, Dad, I woke
765
00:44:11.190 --> 00:44:15.170
up the other day with no clothes on. I went
766
00:44:15.210 --> 00:44:19.050
to bed normal. You know, she had the blanket, everything,
767
00:44:19.070 --> 00:44:21.679
the whole nine. You know, she's by herself. And she
768
00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:24.159
woke up with no clothes on. And I said, you
769
00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:25.179
know what? I believe you.
770
00:44:25.860 --> 00:44:27.639
Because the same thing happened to me.
771
00:44:28.380 --> 00:44:30.800
And it was just at one moment when I saw
772
00:44:30.860 --> 00:44:35.239
those spot, those spotlights that looked like spotlights were going
773
00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:37.420
into the room and stuff. And then that happens. That's
774
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:40.039
the only thing that I thought about. I'm like, I
775
00:44:40.059 --> 00:44:42.440
know I'm thinking like, are they doing experiments on me?
776
00:44:42.539 --> 00:44:46.949
And you know, she's my first child. Um, you know,
777
00:44:46.969 --> 00:44:49.909
what a coincidence that it happened to her. Same thing
778
00:44:49.929 --> 00:44:52.630
that happened to me. So yeah, but that was the
779
00:44:52.650 --> 00:44:55.289
only experience I had when it comes to UFOs and
780
00:44:55.369 --> 00:44:58.750
aliens like that. And, um, besides every morning I look
781
00:44:58.849 --> 00:45:02.030
up with my wife and we work together and on
782
00:45:02.269 --> 00:45:04.409
the parking lot on the way to work, we always
783
00:45:04.449 --> 00:45:06.670
look up every morning.
784
00:45:06.710 --> 00:45:08.420
It doesn't fail. We're looking up.
785
00:45:09.889 --> 00:45:13.579
And let me tell you, Dan, like 80% of the time,
786
00:45:14.380 --> 00:45:17.920
we always see something moving.
787
00:45:18.519 --> 00:45:19.679
I'm thinking, I'm thinking about.
788
00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:25.460
Elon Musk, uh, the link, you know, I'm thinking about,
789
00:45:25.500 --> 00:45:27.469
it could be, uh, Can't be a shooting star because
790
00:45:27.489 --> 00:45:29.190
I don't know what a shooting star looks like. I'm thinking, like,
791
00:45:29.210 --> 00:45:31.929
could it be a drone? Could it be an airplane? No,
792
00:45:31.969 --> 00:45:39.369
these things are moving in formations that definitely an airplane can't. Okay.
793
00:45:39.769 --> 00:45:44.119
The airplanes are moving. They're moving faster than the airplane.
794
00:45:44.179 --> 00:45:46.400
And then they'll stop and go another way. I mean,
795
00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:49.960
I wish I could record this because, man, everybody will
796
00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:52.909
be blown away. But I can't record it with my
797
00:45:52.969 --> 00:45:55.150
phone because it's so, you know, it's hard to get
798
00:45:55.190 --> 00:46:00.010
the stars and stuff with the phone. But we have
799
00:46:00.070 --> 00:46:02.710
told a lot of people about it here. People have
800
00:46:02.750 --> 00:46:05.429
been looking up more and a lot of people have.
801
00:46:05.269 --> 00:46:06.070
Been seeing them.
802
00:46:06.710 --> 00:46:10.159
And we have actually gone to people and say, come here,
803
00:46:10.219 --> 00:46:12.820
come here. Because we're going to work at two in
804
00:46:12.860 --> 00:46:16.800
the morning. So, you know, it's really dark out there and,
805
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:19.480
you know. So you get to see all that stuff.
806
00:46:19.579 --> 00:46:21.619
And I have grabbed people and say, come here, look, look.
807
00:46:21.900 --> 00:46:23.780
You said that we're tripping.
808
00:46:24.239 --> 00:46:29.500
What's that? And they look and they're like, like I
809
00:46:29.539 --> 00:46:29.920
told you.
810
00:46:32.139 --> 00:46:37.199
So you got the alien thing. And there is a
811
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:42.639
lot of research that shows it runs in families. These
812
00:46:42.699 --> 00:46:46.239
things are picking up families for three and four generations.
813
00:46:46.940 --> 00:46:50.659
I guess, testing them and such. So that's not a
814
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:54.170
shock that it's your daughter also. I just hope she's
815
00:46:54.210 --> 00:46:57.039
not being too traumatized by it.
816
00:46:58.210 --> 00:47:02.170
No, she took everything well. Of course, it frightened her
817
00:47:02.909 --> 00:47:04.789
after I told her because she didn't know. After I
818
00:47:04.809 --> 00:47:08.210
told her, yeah, that happened to me too. So then
819
00:47:08.250 --> 00:47:11.760
we're like, oh, crap. They put something in us.
820
00:47:11.829 --> 00:47:17.320
I don't know. But, yeah, she's all right. We are good.
821
00:47:17.340 --> 00:47:19.239
We just got that in the back of our mind.
822
00:47:19.380 --> 00:47:22.340
And, you know, now that just opened up another door
823
00:47:22.380 --> 00:47:26.400
for us to explore and listen to other people's stories.
824
00:47:26.420 --> 00:47:29.719
That's why I love listening to other people's stories, you know,
825
00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:30.500
because we can relate.
826
00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:33.739
When you had your own podcast, that's what it was, right?
827
00:47:33.760 --> 00:47:36.219
You listening to stories, other people's stories?
828
00:47:37.179 --> 00:47:37.840
Yeah.
829
00:47:37.969 --> 00:47:38.179
Yeah.
830
00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:42.730
Whoever I had locally, my, you know, family members, friends
831
00:47:42.750 --> 00:47:45.050
that actually went through stuff, come on, let's do it.
832
00:47:45.070 --> 00:47:48.230
And they get excited and we just do.
833
00:47:48.170 --> 00:47:48.769
It for fun.
834
00:47:48.809 --> 00:47:51.989
But these are real stories. These are real stories. This
835
00:47:52.030 --> 00:47:54.329
is the only, this is the only reason I do
836
00:47:54.409 --> 00:47:55.409
it because.
837
00:47:56.590 --> 00:47:57.309
It's real stuff.
838
00:47:57.670 --> 00:48:00.889
That's why the YouTube channel as well is called Raw
839
00:48:00.929 --> 00:48:04.250
Night and we keep it real. We don't want nobody to,
840
00:48:04.510 --> 00:48:08.010
you know, say stuff that's not, Um, and it works
841
00:48:08.030 --> 00:48:09.929
so far. And I, I do, I have a video
842
00:48:09.969 --> 00:48:12.409
of Ron Addick with my mom too. She got stories.
843
00:48:12.550 --> 00:48:12.989
Oh boy.
844
00:48:13.030 --> 00:48:17.070
You gotta get her on here one day. We'll have
845
00:48:17.110 --> 00:48:17.710
you rolling.
846
00:48:18.630 --> 00:48:20.409
Oh, we'll have to try it then if she's up
847
00:48:20.469 --> 00:48:21.090
for it.
848
00:48:21.710 --> 00:48:22.150
All right.
849
00:48:22.230 --> 00:48:26.409
So, uh, you have, are you interested in cryptids at all?
850
00:48:26.429 --> 00:48:29.480
Or are you sticking pretty much with the UFOs and ghosts?
851
00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:36.989
So is cryptid, is that like big foot, um, The
852
00:48:37.210 --> 00:48:40.190
only thing, so that's what it's called, crypting.
853
00:48:40.250 --> 00:48:41.969
Cryptids, yeah.
854
00:48:43.190 --> 00:48:46.119
The only thing that I think that, not that I
855
00:48:46.159 --> 00:48:49.059
can relate to it, but I was around when it
856
00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:52.820
was super popular. You know, there's a moment where Bigfoot
857
00:48:52.860 --> 00:48:54.719
is like, everybody's talking about it.
858
00:48:54.719 --> 00:48:56.139
Oh, yeah.
859
00:48:56.159 --> 00:49:02.389
Stuff like that. The Chupacabra. The Goat Sucker, right?
860
00:49:03.710 --> 00:49:04.309
In Puerto Rico.
861
00:49:05.309 --> 00:49:11.400
That was going around everywhere, just killing the goats, killing,
862
00:49:11.460 --> 00:49:17.150
I think, even the cows, chickens. And, you know, a
863
00:49:17.150 --> 00:49:19.949
lot of farmers were being very hurt, you know, with that.
864
00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:22.800
Over there, there's a lot of poverty as well. And
865
00:49:22.820 --> 00:49:25.519
people depend on the eggs from the chickens and stuff
866
00:49:25.539 --> 00:49:27.579
like that. And now they don't have chicken eggs in
867
00:49:27.619 --> 00:49:30.909
the morning now, you know. So, you know, it started
868
00:49:30.929 --> 00:49:34.050
getting very concerning because it was being very repetitive. And
869
00:49:34.070 --> 00:49:35.949
it got to the point where people were having shirts
870
00:49:35.989 --> 00:49:37.309
with the goat sucker on it.
871
00:49:38.219 --> 00:49:40.159
And, I mean, they started selling it. It was kind
872
00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:41.019
of like Area 51.
873
00:49:41.000 --> 00:49:44.800
You could buy pens and paper that said.
874
00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:46.820
Area 51 on it. So, yeah, it was like that.
875
00:49:46.909 --> 00:49:48.269
It went viral.
876
00:49:48.429 --> 00:49:50.210
And, you know, when I went to Philadelphia and New
877
00:49:50.250 --> 00:49:52.530
York and all that, too, that was all over the place.
878
00:49:52.550 --> 00:49:53.789
That was a really big thing.
879
00:49:54.250 --> 00:49:57.239
But I never really realized it.
880
00:49:57.409 --> 00:49:59.980
Is it from Mexico that it originated?
881
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:04.139
The Chupacabra originated, from what I understand, in Puerto Rico.
882
00:50:04.789 --> 00:50:05.670
In Puerto Rico, right?
883
00:50:05.750 --> 00:50:06.250
Okay.
884
00:50:06.510 --> 00:50:08.710
And they believe it may have something to do with
885
00:50:08.730 --> 00:50:12.389
the military scientific experiments they were doing there.
886
00:50:12.659 --> 00:50:16.739
In El Yunque. In the rainforest, yeah.
887
00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:19.800
The only biggest rainforest that the United States has is
888
00:50:19.900 --> 00:50:24.380
actually called El Yunque, right where you're saying. I also
889
00:50:24.420 --> 00:50:33.210
went to the Arecibo telescope before it got demolished. I
890
00:50:33.250 --> 00:50:36.460
don't know how many hundreds of football fields you could
891
00:50:36.500 --> 00:50:38.840
fit in that sucker i saw it from the top
892
00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:42.300
view and wow the people look like ants in the
893
00:50:42.340 --> 00:50:45.329
bottom of that satellite and i guess it was a
894
00:50:45.389 --> 00:50:47.909
very very um important satellite.
895
00:50:47.989 --> 00:50:53.250
I live literally i could throw a rock to the
896
00:50:53.289 --> 00:50:58.139
telescope where uh einstein once once was from where i
897
00:50:58.199 --> 00:51:01.539
live at right now there's a lot of history around
898
00:51:01.579 --> 00:51:01.800
here um.
899
00:51:04.269 --> 00:51:06.010
And yeah, there's.
900
00:51:05.889 --> 00:51:11.539
A lot of Indian land too. And I think there's a,
901
00:51:11.559 --> 00:51:15.719
you know, property built on top of Indian lands. And,
902
00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:17.980
you know, there's a hotel that I know, I don't
903
00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:19.030
want to mention it right now. I don't want to
904
00:51:19.050 --> 00:51:21.389
get in trouble, but there's a hotel real close to
905
00:51:21.449 --> 00:51:26.289
me that is also on Indian grounds. Delavan, Wisconsin here
906
00:51:26.309 --> 00:51:30.250
is used to be known for the circus. A lot
907
00:51:30.329 --> 00:51:33.199
of creepy things sometimes happen in circuses and stuff. So,
908
00:51:33.219 --> 00:51:36.630
you know, just keep your imagination high. But when it
909
00:51:36.670 --> 00:51:39.360
was a frozen lake in the wintertime, the animals that
910
00:51:39.380 --> 00:51:42.099
will die, like the elephants and the giraffes and stuff
911
00:51:42.139 --> 00:51:44.199
like that, they will drag it between a lot of
912
00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:47.980
people to the middle of the lake until, until today,
913
00:51:48.019 --> 00:51:52.659
they still find bones of giraffes when people go fishing
914
00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:53.440
in the lake.
915
00:51:53.460 --> 00:51:53.699
Yeah.
916
00:51:54.780 --> 00:51:57.139
Um, so it was real well known for that, but
917
00:51:57.159 --> 00:52:01.510
there's also, um, Indian grounds where all this was happening. So, um,
918
00:52:02.630 --> 00:52:05.699
There are certain places around here that restaurants and hotels
919
00:52:05.780 --> 00:52:08.880
where you do see a lot of apparitions in the windows.
920
00:52:09.360 --> 00:52:16.949
You see Indian people just standing there. You hear the elephants.
921
00:52:17.590 --> 00:52:19.909
I heard that you hear the elephants sometimes from time
922
00:52:19.929 --> 00:52:20.349
to time.
923
00:52:20.369 --> 00:52:21.489
Okay.
924
00:52:21.909 --> 00:52:22.510
Creepy stuff.
925
00:52:23.409 --> 00:52:24.389
Wow, yes it is.
926
00:52:25.150 --> 00:52:25.469
Yeah.
927
00:52:26.369 --> 00:52:28.159
I didn't even know Wisconsin.
928
00:52:29.239 --> 00:52:33.050
is the number one place with the most ghost stories
929
00:52:33.110 --> 00:52:33.889
in the United States.
930
00:52:34.550 --> 00:52:36.530
I didn't know that either. That's pretty cool.
931
00:52:37.090 --> 00:52:37.389
Yeah.
932
00:52:37.769 --> 00:52:38.409
Yeah.
933
00:52:38.550 --> 00:52:40.690
And you're adding your own stories to it, right?
934
00:52:41.090 --> 00:52:42.250
Yeah, I guess so.
935
00:52:43.880 --> 00:52:47.639
I mean, it's not that much, but what I know,
936
00:52:48.300 --> 00:52:50.800
what I've done, what I've been through is enough to say,
937
00:52:50.840 --> 00:52:51.599
Oh yeah, he knows.
938
00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:55.969
Okay. Well, Angel, we're going to back off here and,
939
00:52:56.360 --> 00:52:58.340
finish up but i do want to bring up again
940
00:52:58.380 --> 00:53:03.329
your facebook page and that is under piwi.
941
00:53:02.849 --> 00:53:07.170
Yeah that's uh they call me peewee my nickname okay
942
00:53:07.250 --> 00:53:10.750
piwi so it's like peewee but um you know it
943
00:53:10.769 --> 00:53:13.619
stands for paranormal investigators of wisconsin.
944
00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:17.239
Okay and uh do you have any other about anybody
945
00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:19.659
else working with you your wife or other.
946
00:53:19.860 --> 00:53:23.730
Other people My wife, she's my sidekick. She's always by
947
00:53:23.769 --> 00:53:28.710
my side like she is right now. My sister, she's
948
00:53:28.730 --> 00:53:34.400
the administrator of the of the Web site page. She
949
00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:35.980
has a little bit more time in her hands and
950
00:53:36.059 --> 00:53:41.639
she goes out to places. The Queen Mary and she
951
00:53:41.699 --> 00:53:45.880
she visited hotels where, you know, Jeffrey Dahmer was that,
952
00:53:45.980 --> 00:53:49.429
you know, the whole story about that. And a few
953
00:53:49.489 --> 00:53:55.090
other places, a few museums and stuff. And I'm sure
954
00:53:55.130 --> 00:53:57.150
she got tons of stories to tell.
955
00:53:57.809 --> 00:54:03.010
Okay. So y'all are working together. Do you have any plans?
956
00:54:03.150 --> 00:54:05.590
I know you're very, very busy with work and life,
957
00:54:05.929 --> 00:54:07.940
but do you have any plans to go to some
958
00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:10.420
of these places and actually investigate it yourself?
959
00:54:11.420 --> 00:54:13.599
Right now we don't, I'm not going to say we
960
00:54:13.619 --> 00:54:16.159
do cause we don't, but it is every day in
961
00:54:16.199 --> 00:54:20.260
the back of our minds. And I feel that one
962
00:54:20.300 --> 00:54:22.320
of these days is going to be, let's go now,
963
00:54:22.699 --> 00:54:26.360
you know, we just going to shoot somewhere that, um.
964
00:54:27.260 --> 00:54:28.679
Uh, it probably will have to be locally.
965
00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:31.610
That's the only thing because I, you know, my job
966
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and stuff like that.
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Um, going in at 2 AM is just, it's, it's hard.
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It's a killer.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You know, so.
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But we do what we can. And, you know, again,
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we love this stuff. It's what keeps us going. We
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love looking at ghost hunters on TV, all that stuff.
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You know, your podcast, all the other podcasts that I
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see that's paranormal.
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You know, and I learn a lot.
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I learn a lot, too. And then I put two
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and two together, and I'm like, oh, that's what it was,
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you know? Like, for example, my grandma, she had a
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house on Racine Street. She kept telling me she kept
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seeing a little boy in front of her mattress. And
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I'm like, Grandma, you take your pills? And she's like, Pee-wee,
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I was okay.
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Trust me. She kept repeating it.
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I did an investigation on the house, and I went online,
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and I found out that that house was burnt down
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at one point, and a little boy died in the
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closet smelling the black smoke, and the closet is right
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in front of her mattress.
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There you go.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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All right. Well, Angel, thanks for coming on. It's been great.
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And I love your stories. Would you hang loose for
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just a minute? I want to talk to you a
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little bit after the show.
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Okay.
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Awesome. Thank you so much.
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If you get some more good stuff going, uh, more adventures,
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let me know. We need to get you back on here.
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Okay.
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No problem.
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We'll do. All right, brother.
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Talk to you in a few minutes. Standby. You know,
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you got a lot of talking to the new ghost hunters.
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And I remember, uh, Oh, I'm still that excited about
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it when I get to go out and do something
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with Stokes County Paranormal when I go back to Missouri
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and get with my old team and we do things.
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It's just so much fun to hear the excitement and
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the voice when they're really enjoying this. So, hey, guys,
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I am going to have to go back. Remember, join
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00:56:23.110 --> 00:56:27.079
up with the Unexplained Network. Go to unexnetwork.com, drop down
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00:56:27.099 --> 00:56:30.460
a little bit, and join up. There's so much stuff
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00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:32.500
going on, and you're going to miss out on it.
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I don't want to see that. Not a lot of
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00:56:34.750 --> 00:56:36.969
new shows, a lot of new in-house shows going to
1019
00:56:36.989 --> 00:56:40.840
be on YouTube available for free. But you still, you're
1020
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missing out on the blog and the magazine newsletter, of course.
1021
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And there's a lot of other perks with being a member.
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So why don't you check that out? And again, I
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want to thank Angel for coming on. This has been
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a really interesting night. But I'm going to move along now.
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So I want you guys, now, of course, summertime's here.
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It's very, very warm. So y'all stay cool, stay comfortable,
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stay hydrated. And above all, I need you guys to
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all stay spooked.
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Okay?
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All right.
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Have a good night.
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Thank you.
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It surrounds us. It's everywhere. Tonight, you will hear from
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the people who live and work within these highly active locations.
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All in the efforts to discover America's Most Haunted. With
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your host, ghost hunter and author, Dan Terry.
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Good evening, boys and ghouls. I'm Dan Terry, your ghost
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host with The Most Haunted. And we're getting back into
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the ghost. I know we've done some other stuff recently,
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but let's talk about ghosts tonight. And I want to
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introduce you to my friend Angel Navarro. And he is
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the founder of P-I-W-I, which is a Wisconsin-based ghost hunting group, paranormal.
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His Facebook is now up to almost 7,000 followers. So
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he's got a lot of interesting stuff to talk about.
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His Facebook page is under P-I-W-I, and his YouTube page
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is raw, N-A-T-I-K, rawnatic. But he's got a lot of
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interesting stuff to talk about. He's into all mysteries, UFOs, ghosts, demonics,
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all of it. He's ready to talk about it. He's
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had some interesting adventures, and we're going to talk about
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some of that right now. So let's bring him on.
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This is Angel.
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Hi, Angel.
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Hello, hello. Thank you for having me today.
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Oh, thanks for coming on. It's intriguing. Whereabouts, Wisconsin, are you?
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I'm in the Lake Geneva area. That's in Wildworth County.
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I'm like maybe 15, 20 minutes away from Illinois.
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Okay. I'm familiar with the area then. So, and we've
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been talking a little bit and we've been chatting about
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some of the adventures he's had, but I'd like to
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get back to what got you started into doing paranormal stuff.
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What got you interested in?
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Okay, perfect.
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Um, so yeah, Man.
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Wow.
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When I was a child, I mean, um, I think
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probably like when I was five years old was my first, um,
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five or six years old was my first, uh, paranormal
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experience without even knowing it.
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Okay.
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Um, I was, you know, when you have your kid
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in bed and, um, you're playing with her and doing
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the little airplane thing and, you know, well, my mom
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was doing that to me and, uh, it was pretty late.
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My dad had got out of work pretty late, but
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we were kind of expecting him. So, um, where the
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position of the bed was that you could kind of
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see the door, and there was a light on in
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the hallway from the door. And I saw a shadow head, like,
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just popping his head in. I did it twice. So
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I told mom, I said, Mom, Mom, Dad's home. So
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she said, No, he's not home yet. And then she's
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still playing with me. While she was playing with me,
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she did peek, and she saw it herself. And she said, oh, yeah,
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it is your dad. Go down and see what he's doing.
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So I went down and, of course, nobody was there,
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you know. And, yeah, I ran back upstairs and I said, mom, no,
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nobody's there. And that's not here. And right there, the
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phone rang and it was my aunt's. my dad's sister,
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and saying that her chihuahua just gave birth to a
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couple of dead little chihuahuas. And I'm like, well, that's creepy.
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And me thinking now too, seeing the shadow. So since
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I was small, I've been seeing things. It kind of
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like runs in my family. I'm sure everybody in my
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family could sit down with you and give you a story.
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I actually sat down with my aunt and my cousin
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that came to visit me from Philadelphia.
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Two days ago.
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And the stories that they were telling me, I said, no, no,
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we got to go on, you know?
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Yes.
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I was, I mean, it really like freaked me out.
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And I was like, wow. So, you know, it runs
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in the family. And then a lot of Ouija board stuff.
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I remember when I was a kid, I'm going to
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Toys R Us and Abramingo Avenue in Philadelphia. And, My
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mom bought the Ouija board. I believe she bought the
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Ouija board because when she was going to college for
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medical secretary, her colleagues were playing with that at that time.
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This is probably the late 80s.
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Okay. So, yeah, at that time, there was a thing
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where actually a lot of people was going to Toys
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R Us out of all stores to buy that game.
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So anyway, my mom bought it when I remember that.
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Like if it was yesterday, the cashier register, it was
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a guy, young guy said, ma'am, are you sure you
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want to purchase this game? And my mom said, yeah, yeah,
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I want to purchase it. So he was like, he
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knew something, you know? So, you know, a lot of
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stuff with the Ouija board. I had an experience as well.
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Probably that month or a month in two months, probably
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the most after she bought that. Now, you know, she
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had passed it on to my aunt to try it out.
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You know, everybody wanted to try it out. So me
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and my cousins, very young at that time, we found
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it in the table and we took it and we
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started playing ourselves. And me, my cousin Amy, my cousin Natalie,
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we sat down and we played that and we saw
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this red smoke. I don't really remember the questions we
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were asking, but one of them was, can you tell
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us how you passed, you know? But anyway, we saw
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like this red smoke over the board and it definitely
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looked like a devil based figure and everything.
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And us three just ran out.
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That was one of the last things I remember when
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I was a kid doing the Ouija board. The other
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thing was when my mom had it, we lived in
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Northeast Philadelphia and her husband's uncle didn't believe in that
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at all, at all. And we're telling him, you know,
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At this time, I mean, we shouldn't even have it
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in the house. But, you know, we're telling him, don't
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say that about this. Don't say that about that. And
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he ended up playing it just to see if he
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could convince himself. And it started moving. And he literally
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blamed everything on, like, his nephew and stuff like that.
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And when I was walking, the dresser and the TV
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that was on top of the dresser just... threw itself
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on top of me. And my stepfather was, if he
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wasn't been there, I would have been hurt very bad.
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And that happened as soon as he hit the Ouija
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board and just like flicked it off the table, basically. Wow.
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Yeah.
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So that was that with the Ouija board. And then,
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I mean, you know, when you go online and you
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try to search something and sometimes you don't know what
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to search. Well, that's what happens with me when we
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talk about paranormal stuff, because so many stories that I
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know and so many things that I've been through.
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Um, it's, it's, I just talk about it.
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Yeah. I get chills, but like normal, you know, like,
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because I mean, I'm just, it happens, you know?
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So I'm so used to it.
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Um, yeah. So that happened with, Oh, I have my
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aunt one time when I was young as well. We
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didn't have a Ouija board, but we wanted one. And, um,
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So I took a back of a checkerboard and I
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started drawing everything on the Ouija board on it. And
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I went and I grabbed a glass from my grandma's
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kitchen and we started asking questions and it was actually moving.
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Three weeks or two weeks ago, I had her here
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and I asked her before I came on with you,
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I want to double check. Was it me or was
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that thing really moving? And she said, no, it wasn't moving.
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I'm like, okay, that's what I thought. We both freaked
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out at that time. So then we decided to go
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to the basement and do Bloody Mary.
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Oh God.
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So we went to the basement and we found the
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mirror and we, you know, shut the light on. We
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put the knife behind the mirror and we're Bloody Mary,
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Bloody Mary, you know, 10 times, whatnot. Nothing happens. We
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did it like three times. The third time we see
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like two red lights. It looked like lights to me, like, eyes,
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but they were lit up like LED lights. Just two
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of them in front of us. If there's something, they're
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just straight looking at us face to face, but we
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can't really quite see it because it's dark.
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That freaked us out.
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Sometimes even when people don't believe in Bloody Mary or
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certain superstitions like that, if you believe sometimes certain spirits
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or souls or even bad things out there. I don't
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even like saying the demons and stuff like that. You know, they,
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they'll take control over that. They'll take advantage of those moments,
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you know? So whether it was Bloody Mary or not,
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there was something there anyway.
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Angel, let me ask you this one because of, oh gosh,
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I guess it's been about seven, eight years ago now.
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When I was in St. Louis in a Barnes and Noble,
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they had stacks of Hello Kitty, Ouija board. for kids.
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No way.
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Oh, yeah. I almost bought one for a friend of
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mine who got a Ouija board museum. I should have
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done that. What's your opinion? Is this a game or
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is this way more serious?
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Yes.
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I think this is something way more serious. This is
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something spiritual. I think a lot of people right now
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are being more woke. They're being awake and they're realizing
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a lot more than what they were told or what
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they actually saw themselves. You know, I think it's growing
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out there. And like I said, the negative could try
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to take over the positive. So you're a positive person.
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You're going to play a game like that. The negative
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is going to look for that. I believe it's not
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a good thing. what type of game is it? You know,
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you don't have no dice. You don't got no cards.
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It's just talking to what, you know, you're talking to spirits.
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You're talking, you know, you know, some people say you're
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talking to the universe, but what in the universe are
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you trying to reach? You know, it's still something spiritual.
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It's not something human being like me and you, you know,
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flesh and blood. And with a lot of, I mean,
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I could, I don't know how many episodes or seasons
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you want to do with me, but let me tell you,
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when my mom bought that Ouija board, she bought it
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and her friend bought it too. Now she was going
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to college to be a medical secretary. Like I told you,
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and her, um, her friend bought one and everybody's, you know,
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the rule don't play by yourself.
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Sure.
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Well, she was playing by herself with the Ouija board
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and the kids asleep and she's playing and playing, playing
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with that thing. That thing got attached to her. Like
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it really liked, It really liked conversing with her. And
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when she wanted to stop conversing, it didn't want to stop.
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This is a story probably my mom will be better
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to tell. But long story short, the house fell on fire.
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Before she ran out, the baby's room was lit on
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fire and the door did not want to open. There
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was a baby in the crib. When she went into
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the crib, the baby was levitating from the mattress from
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the crib, levitating. And she placed a rosary cross on
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the baby's forehead. It burned them. They say that to
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this day, he still has the mark. And then the
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firefighters came and did what they had to do.
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And a couple other stories.
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From that family as well that I was told. And
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some stuff, it's hard for even me to say that
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I kind of don't believe, but if it happened to
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happen at this stage of age, we got to believe
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almost anything right now, man.
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Well, all right. Now you have dealt with this sort
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of stuff. You've dealt with the Ouija board. What advice
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do you give to other people?
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You know, it's exciting. And a lot of people like
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the adrenaline, right?
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You know, it's when you, us ghost hunters, you know,
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they kind of don't want to do it, but you do,
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you know, to see what happens. Um, and of course
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there's those that just go for it.
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They do it.
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They don't, you know, no, no chill in their bone
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at all. They just go ahead and start doing it. Um,
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if you are going to do it, be very careful,
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be very, very, very careful. And, um, Be careful what
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you ask, what you ask. There was a lot of questions,
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like I was saying, like, who am I speaking with?
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And then they'll go ahead and tell you who and
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who are they? They'll say, I don't know, they were
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a lawyer. And then, you know, the conversation just starts
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to get deep. Like, you know, he was strangled to
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death or, you know, things. And it gets deep and
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it could attach to you. And when you least expect it,
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you know, sometimes people have gone months with nothing happening
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to them and then something do.
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Right.
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And I think that's well expected now that demons take
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their time. They're not in any hurry.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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They sometimes look for the right moment. And it's usually
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unexpected for us.
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And do you feel like that's what you were dealing with?
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Well, now that I go back and think of it, yeah.
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Yeah, absolutely. I remember some people that we talked to
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through there saying they were murdered and the way they
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were saying that they were murdered and stuff.
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It was pretty sketchy.
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I'm sure there was words that me and my cousins
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didn't even know how to pronounce at that time.
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But it was scary.
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Also, when I was young and in middle school in Philadelphia,
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North Philadelphia, kind of bad, right? But when I didn't
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go to school and when I was supposed to be
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in school, you know, the group of guys will always
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go to abandoned factories just to explore, you know, anything bad,
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but just to explore. And there was these gigantic, gigantic
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factories that to this day, I still want to know
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what type of factory it was, but it was very, very,
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very old. And it kind of looked like a mall.
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It connected from one side to the other, like over
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like a bridge and everything and elevators and stuff. But
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these factories burnt down years ago. So in North Philadelphia,
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there's a lot of poverty. A lot of people out there,
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no homes or nothing. A lot of drug addiction. I
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don't know if you ever heard of Kensington in.
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Philadelphia.
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I was born and raised there and it's rough. A
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lot of drug addicts everywhere and They.
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Don't know where to go. So what you're going to do,
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you're going to go to an abandoned place. Right.
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So a lot of them overdose in those factories.
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Those buildings.
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A lot of a lot of bad things happened to
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them there and they died. So when we went over there.
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We used to go there a lot. We will always
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hear footsteps. Oh, wait, somebody's coming. You know, we're thinking
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maybe it's the school cop or something. I don't know
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where we're kids. And we go and we check, nothing.
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We'll see apparitions, shadow people. We'll hear like whispering. We'll
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hear like rocks, little pebbles being thrown towards us. A
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lot of stuff that now that I'm into this more,
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I'm thinking like, I should have just left that place
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as soon as I heard one thing, you know, but
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you know, us as kids and being with a group,
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a nice size group, we're just exploring and mind you,
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we can't be out anyway, cause then we'll get busted. Right. So,
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so we went through a lot there too. And there
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was a big fire that burned a lot of people.
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So you think there might've been spirits in there of
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the folks who had a tragic deaths?
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Absolutely. Absolutely.
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You know, they say that, um, You know, there's people
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that don't cross the other side. Spirits that don't cross
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the other side, they're still roaming. Sometimes they're roaming in
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the area where they pass. You know, some of them
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go to where their loved ones are at. That's why
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you might experience something in your home from a family
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member or something like that.
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Right.
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But yeah, for sure. For sure. I don't know how many,
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but for sure.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Well, now that you've been doing that, how long have
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you been doing the ghost hunting thing?
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Well, we always had a, I mean, going, doing this
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probably since.
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The pandemic, maybe. Okay. I'm guessing, you know, I was
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at the house and a little bit more extra time. And,
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you know, that was like, I'm into all types of
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theories and conspiracies and all that stuff. So that was
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a big one too. And we got into all that. And, uh,
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When I was young, my mom used to always love
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gathering us kids just to say scary stories.
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Yeah.
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And the scary stories will come late at night after
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watching a horror movie. True story, man. All my cousins
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could tell you. But fun times. Oh, man, did she
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scare the crap out of all of us.
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But, yeah, fun times. That always been in the family.
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So, yeah. Yeah.
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Okay. Very young.
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All right.
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You had a quite the adventure at your sister's place
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and you gave me a good story about her. You
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told me about it earlier. Can you bring that up again?
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Yes.
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That's when I, like I was saying, I did a
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deliverance without even knowing what it was.
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Yeah.
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So there was a moment and I'm actually, I'm going
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to tell you a couple of things that's very important.
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that I didn't get to. Um, so my sister, she
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was going through a lot of stuff in the house. Um,
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you know, she was, she was stressing and it was
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just something very negative. I go into the house or
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apartment and, you know, it would like drain me. It
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was going on for a while. You know, people got
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the ups and downs, but it was just something that
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was going on for a while. And, um, it got
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to a point where, um, now she's starting to see and, and,
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and hear and, and feel things. And you know, I'm
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thinking like, you know, mama, you probably need more sleep.
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you know you i'm thinking you know trying to think
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what could all that be and the thing was that
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um she was cleaning the her son's my nephew's uh
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bedroom and uh you know how you rearrange the mattresses
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from one side of the room to the other so
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she did that and she placed a big a pretty
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big size Mickey Mouse stuffed animal right in the middle
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of the bed, you know, decoration and stuff. So she
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leaves the room, come back, and the bed is back
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to where it was the first time. So the bed,
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you could tell that somebody dragged it from one side
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to the other because you could see the drag marks.
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On the rug. So, you know, She thought about it
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and thought about it. She said, you know what? Maybe
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I didn't do it. Maybe.
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I don't know.
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Let me do it again. So she went and she
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did it again. And she got the same results. And
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also the Mickey Mouse stuffed animal was sitting in the
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middle of the room looking towards the door. So that
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kind of freaked her out. Of course, she calls me
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and tells me about it. And I'm like. OK.
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You take some pictures.
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And she sent me some pictures from the baby's room,
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which I edited later on. And I see something that
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I'll get to in a second. I'll tell you in
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a second. But she ended up having scratches on her shoulder.
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And when I was editing those photos and doing the
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exposure and all that stuff on the photos when you're editing,
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it kind of pops out and you can see a D-E-V-I-L.
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you know, what that stands for. So that was scratched
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on her shoulder. And then there was like some type
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of satanic scratch symbol, kind of like the Blair witch symbol, um,
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on her neck as well. So then it was time
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to bring in my PIWI.
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Right.
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Right.
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So we went in there, you know, we put cameras
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all over my mom, went and took the baby out,
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took the, um, the dog out. We locked the door.
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I got all that in footage right here in front
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of me in my computer.
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She grabbed the Bible.
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She picked some verses that she was going to start
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praying from the back of the house all the way
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towards the front of the house. That's how we were
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going to start working. So we went from her bedroom
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down to the bathroom, then to her daughter's room, then
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to her son's room, the living room, kitchen, and out
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the dining room. The door's right there. So that's what
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we were going to do. So every time I was
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saying the name of the Lord, not at that moment,
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but when I went back and did hours and hours
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of just listening to the sound footage of each room
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throughout that, I think it was 40 minutes that we
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were in there. Every time I said in the name
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of the Lord, in the name of Jesus, please go.
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You will hear from the bathroom camera. not all the cameras,
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but from the bathroom camera, you could hear like, like,
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like when the Exorcist movie, when they throw the holy
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water on the Exorcist and they start, you know, moving
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and acting all crazy.
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It sounded just like that.
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I have the, the sound audio to that as well.
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And so she sent me the pictures. And when I
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was also doing checking the pictures out and stuff, we
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came across that one picture that I edited. I sent
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you a copy of that, but I do have one
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that's even more further edited where you could see not
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just a beast face in the closet of her son's room.
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It doesn't have a body. It just has goat legs
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around the head. Kind of looking like a sun. So
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the sun with the rays, but it was a beast
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head with goat's legs around. Okay, so I did further
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checking on that. Don't ask me where I went for
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this because I just go on the computer and I search, search.
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Sometimes I don't even know where I'm at, but I
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find it. And I find, I'm not going to mention
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the name of it, but it has a name. It
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is the Demon of Disorder. And that kind of explains
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her household, how it felt so crazy and just negative
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and that heavy weight when people go in and like
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drain you like a battery. When we were praying and
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saying what we were saying, I started saying stuff I
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don't even remember. I go on the videos and I'm like, oh,
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I said all that. Okay. So when we were on
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the way out, halfway, my mom, she was trying to
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get in too. She said, hey, I got to come
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in now. I got the baby, I got the dog.
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So she couldn't come in because we had locked the door.
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So when we finished everything, I heard a silence. Like
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if a pin drop will fall, you'll hear it clear
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as day. A big silence, man. And the door unlocked.
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Like if it had let itself out. So I feel
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that whatever it was, we took it out. And not
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just that, my sister does and did feel way better
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and haven't had experienced.
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Anything like that ever again.
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And the apartment building where she lives at, I'm sure
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there's been moments where people have passed and stuff like
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that because it's an older building as well. But yeah,
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that was my first experience Deliverance that I've done. My
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only one that I have done that I actually had
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time and dedication to do that. Plus, it was my sister,
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you know, who don't want to help your own sister
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and your nephew and niece and stuff. So we kind
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of went hard on that.
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And we... When you believe and you do things from
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the heart, it works.
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It works. If it's not working, you got to believe more.
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And use your heart big time.
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Because.
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If you go to Raw Natick on my YouTube channel,
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I started with a lot of paranormal stuff. But there's something, Dan,
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that I started doing. I started putting a lot of
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beautiful videos of nature.
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Now.
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And it's like, why? Why from paranormal, from the darkness
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to the clarity now? There's a lot of love out
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there and a lot of people got to understand that
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love is powerful. And especially when it comes to something
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00:27:03.259 --> 00:27:05.660
like this, when you're, what's the opposite of love?
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Hate.
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What's hate negative? Hate is, it's just the bad stuff
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00:27:12.789 --> 00:27:16.990
that comes with it, you know? So instead of waking
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in the morning and looking at your news and seeing,
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Bad news. You know, that's how I started putting like,
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cause where I work at in front of where I
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work at is the Lake Geneva Lake is called Geneva Lake.
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Right. And it's beautiful.
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You know, I had, I had asked God, I was like, God,
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let me help me wake up every morning. Like the
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old people to see the sunrise and drink coffee and
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listen to the birds.
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Cause I love that.
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That's beautiful.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He said, you want that? Okay, I'll give you a job.
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You start at 2 a.m. True story. True story.
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And I got a whole bunch of other occasions like that, too,
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that he answered.
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He answered.
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It's amazing. Unless it happens to you, man. I mean,
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you know, you just got to believe and have a
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good heart. And love is what overcomes hate, negativity, because,
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you know, love is positivity.
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Yes. So, yeah.
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Okay. Hey, listen, Angel, I got to step away for
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a minute. I'm a little overdue for a commercial, but
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if you'll wait there, I'll be right back. We're going
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to bring up those pictures you sent and talk about those, okay?
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Sounds good.
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All right, buddy, stand by. This is an interesting one,
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00:28:37.740 --> 00:28:42.660
and if you guys know, and I've told you before,
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I've dealt with one possible demonic thing, and I actually
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00:28:47.319 --> 00:28:51.279
called in experts to do it because I'm not I
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00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:54.349
don't think I'm ready for that. But they did a
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00:28:54.369 --> 00:28:59.369
great job. And it's interesting to hear his take on
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00:28:59.390 --> 00:29:04.150
that because he kind of wandered into it. But he
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00:29:04.170 --> 00:29:06.819
did good from what I'm hearing. I think he did
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real good. Hey, listen, I got something for you to watch.
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So if you'll check this out real quick. And my friends,
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I will be back in just a moment.
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All right, guys, got to tell you a little bit
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about the Unexplained Network because it's, again, growing. And I
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say that every week, but it is. We just got
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It's incredible. It's going to be starting here real quick. And,
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of course, we still got all our cryptids. We got
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all our paranormal people. We've got Margie Kay out of
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Kansas City. We've got Michelle Roos out of Iowa. Now
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we've got a group out of Ohio that I've actually
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worked with all three of these people, and they're incredible,
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amazing ghost hunters. The folks out of Ohio, that's Iron
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City Paranormal, worked with them at the Blenner Hosset down
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in West Virginia. And the serial killer spirit down there
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that's pretty interesting and Boy, I heard ghosts say things
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I hadn't heard a ghost say before. Come right out
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over the spirit box, and it was pretty rough. But anyway,
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there's a lot going on, and you can be part
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of this. Just go to Annex Network or Annex.com, if
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you will, but either one will get you there. And
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first page, drop down a little bit. You've got the
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paperwork or the whatever you call it, blanks to fill in.
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And you can become a member. There are several different
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ways to do it. And if you're a member, first
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thing you're going to get is the blog. And guys,
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and I've told you before, I know we have been
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so far ahead of regular mainstream media on this. The blog,
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we were ahead of them on the Tic Tacs. We're
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ahead of them on the missing scientists and cryptid reports
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popping up out of different areas of the country. There's
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a lot of that. And we're right there on it.
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That's the blog. We also got the newsletter. It comes
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out weekly. It talks about what shows are on. And
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usually there's a story of some sort in there. And then,
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of course, once a month, if you're a member, you
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get the Unexplained magazine coming right to you through the email.
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And it's got some of the best writers you can imagine.
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This is a couple of the issues. And the one
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on the left there, I actually had two articles on
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that one. One was about the haunted battleship, North Carolina.
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And the other one was about legends of Halloween. And
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I'm not talking about the headless horsemen or stuff like that.
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I'm talking about back when we were kids or when
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I was a kid. And they would tell us they're
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putting LSD in the candy. They're putting razor blades in
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the apples. They're poisoning kids. There's a cult that's kidnapping
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children and sacrificing them if they've got blonde hair and
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blue eyes. A lot of stuff going on. And there
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00:33:34.410 --> 00:33:39.039
was always just a kernel of truth in every one
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of those legends. And that's what I dug out there.
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00:33:41.779 --> 00:33:46.059
And of course, I've written one on haunted dolls, which
581
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was tough for me because I absolutely, absolutely hate dolls. Creepy.
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And I did one here on the last call at
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the Devil's Diner. That was a a very, very haunted
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old restaurant that had been on Route 66 since back
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00:34:03.670 --> 00:34:09.869
in the 50s, and it was extremely haunted. One night,
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00:34:09.929 --> 00:34:12.699
it picked up about a 320-pound man and threw it
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up against the wall. It was incredible what all went
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on in there, and I went back there three or
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four times, maybe more than that. It was just an
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00:34:22.619 --> 00:34:25.320
incredible place, but a tornado hit it a couple about
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a year ago, a little over a year ago, and
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pretty much destroyed it. So it's gone now. The old
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Diamonds or the old Tri-County Truck Stop, it had both names.
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00:34:36.630 --> 00:34:39.869
But that's the kind of stuff that gets written about
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in these magazines. We hit places near you, I'm sure.
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So check it out. Go to unexnetwork.com for the Unexplained
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Magazine and decide if you want to try it out.
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00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:55.780
But there's some really great articles in there. And of course,
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00:34:55.860 --> 00:35:00.320
all of our in-house shows are on YouTube for free,
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just like this one is. So what are you waiting for?
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You need to come and check it out. All right,
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00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:07.969
let's go back and talk to Angel some more because
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I like what he's doing here. And he sent some
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photographs we need to take a check on. Now, this
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00:35:14.250 --> 00:35:19.269
first one is the closet in your sister's son's room, correct?
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Correct. Yes, that is a picture that I took before
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I had taken the other one and started editing it.
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So that's the original picture, actually. You don't see much
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to it, but once you start doing the editing, you
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kind of get that figure.
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00:35:40.269 --> 00:35:44.650
Okay, now where in this picture is what you blew
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up and sent to?
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Okay, if you put the other one, the other picture?
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Uh-huh.
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You'll see, if you look real hard, kind of.
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Like in that black area, just in the bottom left
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of that towel that's hanging. Yes. Kind of like greenish.
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And then the other picture, I believe it pops out
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a little bit more. All right.
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This one?
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Yes.
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Yeah, it does.
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Now, again, when I looked at that with my phone,
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and I did the editing on my iPhone, I would
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see the head of the beast more clearer than what
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00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:32.880
it looks there on picture. And I also see these
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goat legs, at least it looked like goat legs around
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the head. So it didn't have a body. It was
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just the head. And then a whole bunch of, you know,
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goat legs around it. Kind of like a star or
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something like that, you know, but very, very, yeah, it was,
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And I looked it up, and it had a name.
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I don't like to say the name of the demon,
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but it's the Demon of Disorder. Okay. That kind of
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explains why that was in my sister's house, and that's
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why she was going through a lot.
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It's got to be a very powerful spirit to move
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a bed around.
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Yeah, it wasn't a huge bed, but still, you know.
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Even if you see a teddy bear moving and nothing's moving,
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you imagine a bed, you know? So, yeah. That's why
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I said it was something strong. You know, everybody has
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their own aura, their own.
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Ancestors.
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You got your spirits your way. And when I say
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your way, it's like if you come across another person
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that has spirits that's not your way, they're going to clash.
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Okay, yeah.
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You know, because maybe their spirits that hang with them
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or ancestors, maybe they were bad, you know, and yours are,
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you know, protecting you and, you know, they're holding you
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down and, you know, they don't want nothing bad to
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come to you. So sometimes when you go into a room,
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you could feel the vibes of the person. And, yeah,
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I think, you know, you could do a lot just
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by feeling that, you could tell a lot.
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You know, they say, don't judge a book by its cover. Yes,
658
00:38:22.670 --> 00:38:23.170
that's true.
659
00:38:23.909 --> 00:38:28.329
But you could feel the negativity, especially a lot of
660
00:38:28.349 --> 00:38:31.860
people that have the gift. You know, because I do
661
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:34.920
know people, actually, that to this day, older than me,
662
00:38:34.940 --> 00:38:38.659
that have not went through anything at all. Right. Don't,
663
00:38:38.699 --> 00:38:41.579
you know, don't feel any bad vibes. And I'm like,
664
00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:43.909
oh my God, you know, I felt real bad vibes
665
00:38:43.929 --> 00:38:44.710
from this person.
666
00:38:44.730 --> 00:38:45.269
I don't know.
667
00:38:45.969 --> 00:38:48.280
You know, so... Maybe they.
668
00:38:48.380 --> 00:38:52.320
Weren't clashing with theirs, and theirs were clashing with mine.
669
00:38:52.340 --> 00:38:55.369
Because they say there's a spiritual war out there.
670
00:38:55.429 --> 00:38:55.789
I don't know.
671
00:38:56.789 --> 00:38:59.250
I can believe that. And then you sent me pictures
672
00:38:59.309 --> 00:39:02.269
of the injuries that your sister suffered through.
673
00:39:03.429 --> 00:39:08.019
Yeah, that's the one that when you expose that on
674
00:39:08.059 --> 00:39:10.840
the editing app on the iPhone, you can definitely see
675
00:39:10.900 --> 00:39:16.639
clearly where it says D-E-V-I-L. My daughter. Was actually the
676
00:39:16.739 --> 00:39:20.670
one that spotted that. And I looked it over and
677
00:39:20.690 --> 00:39:23.650
I did more deep diving in it. And yes, it
678
00:39:23.710 --> 00:39:26.820
saves it you definitely see it um and the other
679
00:39:26.860 --> 00:39:30.539
picture was when she got scratched on the neck that
680
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:35.320
same night if you look close um you can see
681
00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:40.230
like that a with that line going across it on
682
00:39:40.269 --> 00:39:42.349
the top of the a kind of like the Blair
683
00:39:42.429 --> 00:39:48.230
Witch Project symbol um And of course I wasn't there either. Um,
684
00:39:48.769 --> 00:39:50.809
and she had some scratches on her back as well.
685
00:39:52.630 --> 00:39:52.909
Yeah.
686
00:39:53.130 --> 00:39:55.400
So something there was moving things. Like you said, it
687
00:39:55.440 --> 00:39:57.699
was powerful and it was, it was already hurting her.
688
00:39:57.780 --> 00:40:02.139
So how long did it take for the, um, scratches
689
00:40:02.179 --> 00:40:02.619
to heal?
690
00:40:04.820 --> 00:40:10.690
Um, I, I want to say maybe, maybe two weeks. Um,
691
00:40:10.710 --> 00:40:15.300
because I remember, I remember her, um, showing me in
692
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:18.260
another video, and I remember her saying, oh, it's been
693
00:40:18.300 --> 00:40:22.159
already two weeks, but you can still see a little bit. Yeah,
694
00:40:22.219 --> 00:40:23.260
I think around two weeks.
695
00:40:23.420 --> 00:40:26.460
Wow. That seems like a long time for those scratches.
696
00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:30.239
Yeah, and she said they would sting. They would sting
697
00:40:30.260 --> 00:40:32.989
a lot. Usually, they sting in the beginning, like when
698
00:40:33.030 --> 00:40:37.530
a cat scratches you, it stings or whatever. But it
699
00:40:37.550 --> 00:40:39.590
was stinging a lot for a couple of days.
700
00:40:39.610 --> 00:40:40.349
OK.
701
00:40:41.619 --> 00:40:44.530
Angel, what else are you doing? Active ghost hunting now?
702
00:40:45.789 --> 00:40:47.929
I wish I had the time to, you know, so
703
00:40:47.989 --> 00:40:51.469
I gather a little, I just bought my first, what
704
00:40:51.530 --> 00:40:51.769
is it?
705
00:40:51.969 --> 00:40:56.710
Uh, EVP, uh, electric voice. What is it? What is it?
706
00:40:56.849 --> 00:40:58.989
I forgot what it was. The one that I got
707
00:40:59.030 --> 00:41:03.139
the light that tells you there's a, um, electrical magnetic field.
708
00:41:03.739 --> 00:41:05.139
Yeah. The EMF detector.
709
00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:08.519
Yeah. So I just bought one of those and, uh, yeah,
710
00:41:08.539 --> 00:41:12.030
I haven't played around with it yet. Um, But no,
711
00:41:12.090 --> 00:41:14.880
I just, you know, I just like to look at
712
00:41:14.889 --> 00:41:19.420
my page and see if I do receive any messages
713
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:21.440
of people that want to share their stories. You know,
714
00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:25.519
I did have a few messages on my PIWI page
715
00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:27.539
where people has asked for help.
716
00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:31.050
And unfortunately, with.
717
00:41:30.909 --> 00:41:34.849
My busy, busy schedule and a lot of the places
718
00:41:35.650 --> 00:41:36.849
are very far from me.
719
00:41:37.699 --> 00:41:39.860
Um, you know, it's impossible for me to make it, but,
720
00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:40.900
you know, I always, uh.
721
00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:44.550
Try to share what I would think they should do. Um,
722
00:41:44.889 --> 00:41:46.829
and you know, there've been moments where people have said
723
00:41:46.869 --> 00:41:51.710
that it's helped and thanks and, um, not many, but, um,
724
00:41:51.750 --> 00:41:53.969
it's been a few and I've been, you know, happy
725
00:41:54.030 --> 00:41:56.030
to respond to them. And, um, and I'm open to
726
00:41:56.110 --> 00:41:58.530
anybody just, even if they want to share their story,
727
00:41:58.789 --> 00:42:01.559
you know, um, and compare things, you know, maybe I
728
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:04.599
went through some things like right now, We didn't really
729
00:42:04.659 --> 00:42:07.489
talk much about aliens and UFOs. I don't know.
730
00:42:07.780 --> 00:42:08.619
Oh, go right ahead.
731
00:42:10.150 --> 00:42:12.449
I only been through one.
732
00:42:14.929 --> 00:42:16.969
Moment in my life where I thought it probably was
733
00:42:16.989 --> 00:42:22.320
going to get abducted. Other than that, nothing ever, ever
734
00:42:22.380 --> 00:42:25.000
else happened. But me and my sister, we were young.
735
00:42:25.039 --> 00:42:27.500
We were sharing one room. She had her bed in
736
00:42:27.539 --> 00:42:29.480
the far side of the room. I had my bed
737
00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:32.320
in the far side of the room. And there's a
738
00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:34.800
window in the middle. It's one of those windows that's
739
00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:42.380
not vertical, they're horizontal. So when we were sleeping, we
740
00:42:42.420 --> 00:42:46.619
saw this bright, bright light just shining in the room.
741
00:42:47.179 --> 00:42:51.980
And we're in the second floor. And it's like a spotlight.
742
00:42:53.699 --> 00:42:56.889
It's kind of like scanning the room from side to side.
743
00:42:57.909 --> 00:43:00.849
And we didn't let that light touch us.
744
00:43:01.150 --> 00:43:01.369
We.
745
00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:05.400
My sister kept going back towards the wall. I went
746
00:43:05.460 --> 00:43:08.909
back towards my wall, and it was barely, barely almost
747
00:43:08.989 --> 00:43:12.170
touching us, the light, but we didn't let it touch us.
748
00:43:13.909 --> 00:43:17.269
After a while, it went away, and me and my
749
00:43:17.389 --> 00:43:20.050
sister looked out the window. I mean, what were we
750
00:43:20.070 --> 00:43:22.579
going to see? We didn't hear no helicopters. We didn't
751
00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:24.440
see none of that, and there's a second floor. There's
752
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:26.460
nobody going to be in front of the window with
753
00:43:26.480 --> 00:43:29.099
a flashlight or something. So.
754
00:43:30.809 --> 00:43:34.030
That was that one incident. And then I believe that
755
00:43:34.139 --> 00:43:38.820
same week, it wasn't the same day. Cause I don't
756
00:43:38.860 --> 00:43:41.400
remember that much, but if it wasn't the same day
757
00:43:41.420 --> 00:43:44.840
or the next day, that week, I ended up waking
758
00:43:44.940 --> 00:43:48.460
one night, one day with, um, absolutely no clothes on,
759
00:43:49.500 --> 00:43:54.110
no clothes on at all. And I mean, I would
760
00:43:54.130 --> 00:43:57.150
never take my clothes off, especially if I know my
761
00:43:57.210 --> 00:44:01.329
sister's in the freaking room, you know, And what makes
762
00:44:01.369 --> 00:44:03.889
me think about it is that my oldest daughter, a
763
00:44:04.329 --> 00:44:07.869
couple years ago, she's 24 going on 25 right now.
764
00:44:07.909 --> 00:44:11.110
And a couple years ago, she said, Dad, I woke
765
00:44:11.190 --> 00:44:15.170
up the other day with no clothes on. I went
766
00:44:15.210 --> 00:44:19.050
to bed normal. You know, she had the blanket, everything,
767
00:44:19.070 --> 00:44:21.679
the whole nine. You know, she's by herself. And she
768
00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:24.159
woke up with no clothes on. And I said, you
769
00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:25.179
know what? I believe you.
770
00:44:25.860 --> 00:44:27.639
Because the same thing happened to me.
771
00:44:28.380 --> 00:44:30.800
And it was just at one moment when I saw
772
00:44:30.860 --> 00:44:35.239
those spot, those spotlights that looked like spotlights were going
773
00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:37.420
into the room and stuff. And then that happens. That's
774
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:40.039
the only thing that I thought about. I'm like, I
775
00:44:40.059 --> 00:44:42.440
know I'm thinking like, are they doing experiments on me?
776
00:44:42.539 --> 00:44:46.949
And you know, she's my first child. Um, you know,
777
00:44:46.969 --> 00:44:49.909
what a coincidence that it happened to her. Same thing
778
00:44:49.929 --> 00:44:52.630
that happened to me. So yeah, but that was the
779
00:44:52.650 --> 00:44:55.289
only experience I had when it comes to UFOs and
780
00:44:55.369 --> 00:44:58.750
aliens like that. And, um, besides every morning I look
781
00:44:58.849 --> 00:45:02.030
up with my wife and we work together and on
782
00:45:02.269 --> 00:45:04.409
the parking lot on the way to work, we always
783
00:45:04.449 --> 00:45:06.670
look up every morning.
784
00:45:06.710 --> 00:45:08.420
It doesn't fail. We're looking up.
785
00:45:09.889 --> 00:45:13.579
And let me tell you, Dan, like 80% of the time,
786
00:45:14.380 --> 00:45:17.920
we always see something moving.
787
00:45:18.519 --> 00:45:19.679
I'm thinking, I'm thinking about.
788
00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:25.460
Elon Musk, uh, the link, you know, I'm thinking about,
789
00:45:25.500 --> 00:45:27.469
it could be, uh, Can't be a shooting star because
790
00:45:27.489 --> 00:45:29.190
I don't know what a shooting star looks like. I'm thinking, like,
791
00:45:29.210 --> 00:45:31.929
could it be a drone? Could it be an airplane? No,
792
00:45:31.969 --> 00:45:39.369
these things are moving in formations that definitely an airplane can't. Okay.
793
00:45:39.769 --> 00:45:44.119
The airplanes are moving. They're moving faster than the airplane.
794
00:45:44.179 --> 00:45:46.400
And then they'll stop and go another way. I mean,
795
00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:49.960
I wish I could record this because, man, everybody will
796
00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:52.909
be blown away. But I can't record it with my
797
00:45:52.969 --> 00:45:55.150
phone because it's so, you know, it's hard to get
798
00:45:55.190 --> 00:46:00.010
the stars and stuff with the phone. But we have
799
00:46:00.070 --> 00:46:02.710
told a lot of people about it here. People have
800
00:46:02.750 --> 00:46:05.429
been looking up more and a lot of people have.
801
00:46:05.269 --> 00:46:06.070
Been seeing them.
802
00:46:06.710 --> 00:46:10.159
And we have actually gone to people and say, come here,
803
00:46:10.219 --> 00:46:12.820
come here. Because we're going to work at two in
804
00:46:12.860 --> 00:46:16.800
the morning. So, you know, it's really dark out there and,
805
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:19.480
you know. So you get to see all that stuff.
806
00:46:19.579 --> 00:46:21.619
And I have grabbed people and say, come here, look, look.
807
00:46:21.900 --> 00:46:23.780
You said that we're tripping.
808
00:46:24.239 --> 00:46:29.500
What's that? And they look and they're like, like I
809
00:46:29.539 --> 00:46:29.920
told you.
810
00:46:32.139 --> 00:46:37.199
So you got the alien thing. And there is a
811
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:42.639
lot of research that shows it runs in families. These
812
00:46:42.699 --> 00:46:46.239
things are picking up families for three and four generations.
813
00:46:46.940 --> 00:46:50.659
I guess, testing them and such. So that's not a
814
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:54.170
shock that it's your daughter also. I just hope she's
815
00:46:54.210 --> 00:46:57.039
not being too traumatized by it.
816
00:46:58.210 --> 00:47:02.170
No, she took everything well. Of course, it frightened her
817
00:47:02.909 --> 00:47:04.789
after I told her because she didn't know. After I
818
00:47:04.809 --> 00:47:08.210
told her, yeah, that happened to me too. So then
819
00:47:08.250 --> 00:47:11.760
we're like, oh, crap. They put something in us.
820
00:47:11.829 --> 00:47:17.320
I don't know. But, yeah, she's all right. We are good.
821
00:47:17.340 --> 00:47:19.239
We just got that in the back of our mind.
822
00:47:19.380 --> 00:47:22.340
And, you know, now that just opened up another door
823
00:47:22.380 --> 00:47:26.400
for us to explore and listen to other people's stories.
824
00:47:26.420 --> 00:47:29.719
That's why I love listening to other people's stories, you know,
825
00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:30.500
because we can relate.
826
00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:33.739
When you had your own podcast, that's what it was, right?
827
00:47:33.760 --> 00:47:36.219
You listening to stories, other people's stories?
828
00:47:37.179 --> 00:47:37.840
Yeah.
829
00:47:37.969 --> 00:47:38.179
Yeah.
830
00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:42.730
Whoever I had locally, my, you know, family members, friends
831
00:47:42.750 --> 00:47:45.050
that actually went through stuff, come on, let's do it.
832
00:47:45.070 --> 00:47:48.230
And they get excited and we just do.
833
00:47:48.170 --> 00:47:48.769
It for fun.
834
00:47:48.809 --> 00:47:51.989
But these are real stories. These are real stories. This
835
00:47:52.030 --> 00:47:54.329
is the only, this is the only reason I do
836
00:47:54.409 --> 00:47:55.409
it because.
837
00:47:56.590 --> 00:47:57.309
It's real stuff.
838
00:47:57.670 --> 00:48:00.889
That's why the YouTube channel as well is called Raw
839
00:48:00.929 --> 00:48:04.250
Night and we keep it real. We don't want nobody to,
840
00:48:04.510 --> 00:48:08.010
you know, say stuff that's not, Um, and it works
841
00:48:08.030 --> 00:48:09.929
so far. And I, I do, I have a video
842
00:48:09.969 --> 00:48:12.409
of Ron Addick with my mom too. She got stories.
843
00:48:12.550 --> 00:48:12.989
Oh boy.
844
00:48:13.030 --> 00:48:17.070
You gotta get her on here one day. We'll have
845
00:48:17.110 --> 00:48:17.710
you rolling.
846
00:48:18.630 --> 00:48:20.409
Oh, we'll have to try it then if she's up
847
00:48:20.469 --> 00:48:21.090
for it.
848
00:48:21.710 --> 00:48:22.150
All right.
849
00:48:22.230 --> 00:48:26.409
So, uh, you have, are you interested in cryptids at all?
850
00:48:26.429 --> 00:48:29.480
Or are you sticking pretty much with the UFOs and ghosts?
851
00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:36.989
So is cryptid, is that like big foot, um, The
852
00:48:37.210 --> 00:48:40.190
only thing, so that's what it's called, crypting.
853
00:48:40.250 --> 00:48:41.969
Cryptids, yeah.
854
00:48:43.190 --> 00:48:46.119
The only thing that I think that, not that I
855
00:48:46.159 --> 00:48:49.059
can relate to it, but I was around when it
856
00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:52.820
was super popular. You know, there's a moment where Bigfoot
857
00:48:52.860 --> 00:48:54.719
is like, everybody's talking about it.
858
00:48:54.719 --> 00:48:56.139
Oh, yeah.
859
00:48:56.159 --> 00:49:02.389
Stuff like that. The Chupacabra. The Goat Sucker, right?
860
00:49:03.710 --> 00:49:04.309
In Puerto Rico.
861
00:49:05.309 --> 00:49:11.400
That was going around everywhere, just killing the goats, killing,
862
00:49:11.460 --> 00:49:17.150
I think, even the cows, chickens. And, you know, a
863
00:49:17.150 --> 00:49:19.949
lot of farmers were being very hurt, you know, with that.
864
00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:22.800
Over there, there's a lot of poverty as well. And
865
00:49:22.820 --> 00:49:25.519
people depend on the eggs from the chickens and stuff
866
00:49:25.539 --> 00:49:27.579
like that. And now they don't have chicken eggs in
867
00:49:27.619 --> 00:49:30.909
the morning now, you know. So, you know, it started
868
00:49:30.929 --> 00:49:34.050
getting very concerning because it was being very repetitive. And
869
00:49:34.070 --> 00:49:35.949
it got to the point where people were having shirts
870
00:49:35.989 --> 00:49:37.309
with the goat sucker on it.
871
00:49:38.219 --> 00:49:40.159
And, I mean, they started selling it. It was kind
872
00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:41.019
of like Area 51.
873
00:49:41.000 --> 00:49:44.800
You could buy pens and paper that said.
874
00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:46.820
Area 51 on it. So, yeah, it was like that.
875
00:49:46.909 --> 00:49:48.269
It went viral.
876
00:49:48.429 --> 00:49:50.210
And, you know, when I went to Philadelphia and New
877
00:49:50.250 --> 00:49:52.530
York and all that, too, that was all over the place.
878
00:49:52.550 --> 00:49:53.789
That was a really big thing.
879
00:49:54.250 --> 00:49:57.239
But I never really realized it.
880
00:49:57.409 --> 00:49:59.980
Is it from Mexico that it originated?
881
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:04.139
The Chupacabra originated, from what I understand, in Puerto Rico.
882
00:50:04.789 --> 00:50:05.670
In Puerto Rico, right?
883
00:50:05.750 --> 00:50:06.250
Okay.
884
00:50:06.510 --> 00:50:08.710
And they believe it may have something to do with
885
00:50:08.730 --> 00:50:12.389
the military scientific experiments they were doing there.
886
00:50:12.659 --> 00:50:16.739
In El Yunque. In the rainforest, yeah.
887
00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:19.800
The only biggest rainforest that the United States has is
888
00:50:19.900 --> 00:50:24.380
actually called El Yunque, right where you're saying. I also
889
00:50:24.420 --> 00:50:33.210
went to the Arecibo telescope before it got demolished. I
890
00:50:33.250 --> 00:50:36.460
don't know how many hundreds of football fields you could
891
00:50:36.500 --> 00:50:38.840
fit in that sucker i saw it from the top
892
00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:42.300
view and wow the people look like ants in the
893
00:50:42.340 --> 00:50:45.329
bottom of that satellite and i guess it was a
894
00:50:45.389 --> 00:50:47.909
very very um important satellite.
895
00:50:47.989 --> 00:50:53.250
I live literally i could throw a rock to the
896
00:50:53.289 --> 00:50:58.139
telescope where uh einstein once once was from where i
897
00:50:58.199 --> 00:51:01.539
live at right now there's a lot of history around
898
00:51:01.579 --> 00:51:01.800
here um.
899
00:51:04.269 --> 00:51:06.010
And yeah, there's.
900
00:51:05.889 --> 00:51:11.539
A lot of Indian land too. And I think there's a,
901
00:51:11.559 --> 00:51:15.719
you know, property built on top of Indian lands. And,
902
00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:17.980
you know, there's a hotel that I know, I don't
903
00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:19.030
want to mention it right now. I don't want to
904
00:51:19.050 --> 00:51:21.389
get in trouble, but there's a hotel real close to
905
00:51:21.449 --> 00:51:26.289
me that is also on Indian grounds. Delavan, Wisconsin here
906
00:51:26.309 --> 00:51:30.250
is used to be known for the circus. A lot
907
00:51:30.329 --> 00:51:33.199
of creepy things sometimes happen in circuses and stuff. So,
908
00:51:33.219 --> 00:51:36.630
you know, just keep your imagination high. But when it
909
00:51:36.670 --> 00:51:39.360
was a frozen lake in the wintertime, the animals that
910
00:51:39.380 --> 00:51:42.099
will die, like the elephants and the giraffes and stuff
911
00:51:42.139 --> 00:51:44.199
like that, they will drag it between a lot of
912
00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:47.980
people to the middle of the lake until, until today,
913
00:51:48.019 --> 00:51:52.659
they still find bones of giraffes when people go fishing
914
00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:53.440
in the lake.
915
00:51:53.460 --> 00:51:53.699
Yeah.
916
00:51:54.780 --> 00:51:57.139
Um, so it was real well known for that, but
917
00:51:57.159 --> 00:52:01.510
there's also, um, Indian grounds where all this was happening. So, um,
918
00:52:02.630 --> 00:52:05.699
There are certain places around here that restaurants and hotels
919
00:52:05.780 --> 00:52:08.880
where you do see a lot of apparitions in the windows.
920
00:52:09.360 --> 00:52:16.949
You see Indian people just standing there. You hear the elephants.
921
00:52:17.590 --> 00:52:19.909
I heard that you hear the elephants sometimes from time
922
00:52:19.929 --> 00:52:20.349
to time.
923
00:52:20.369 --> 00:52:21.489
Okay.
924
00:52:21.909 --> 00:52:22.510
Creepy stuff.
925
00:52:23.409 --> 00:52:24.389
Wow, yes it is.
926
00:52:25.150 --> 00:52:25.469
Yeah.
927
00:52:26.369 --> 00:52:28.159
I didn't even know Wisconsin.
928
00:52:29.239 --> 00:52:33.050
is the number one place with the most ghost stories
929
00:52:33.110 --> 00:52:33.889
in the United States.
930
00:52:34.550 --> 00:52:36.530
I didn't know that either. That's pretty cool.
931
00:52:37.090 --> 00:52:37.389
Yeah.
932
00:52:37.769 --> 00:52:38.409
Yeah.
933
00:52:38.550 --> 00:52:40.690
And you're adding your own stories to it, right?
934
00:52:41.090 --> 00:52:42.250
Yeah, I guess so.
935
00:52:43.880 --> 00:52:47.639
I mean, it's not that much, but what I know,
936
00:52:48.300 --> 00:52:50.800
what I've done, what I've been through is enough to say,
937
00:52:50.840 --> 00:52:51.599
Oh yeah, he knows.
938
00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:55.969
Okay. Well, Angel, we're going to back off here and,
939
00:52:56.360 --> 00:52:58.340
finish up but i do want to bring up again
940
00:52:58.380 --> 00:53:03.329
your facebook page and that is under piwi.
941
00:53:02.849 --> 00:53:07.170
Yeah that's uh they call me peewee my nickname okay
942
00:53:07.250 --> 00:53:10.750
piwi so it's like peewee but um you know it
943
00:53:10.769 --> 00:53:13.619
stands for paranormal investigators of wisconsin.
944
00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:17.239
Okay and uh do you have any other about anybody
945
00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:19.659
else working with you your wife or other.
946
00:53:19.860 --> 00:53:23.730
Other people My wife, she's my sidekick. She's always by
947
00:53:23.769 --> 00:53:28.710
my side like she is right now. My sister, she's
948
00:53:28.730 --> 00:53:34.400
the administrator of the of the Web site page. She
949
00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:35.980
has a little bit more time in her hands and
950
00:53:36.059 --> 00:53:41.639
she goes out to places. The Queen Mary and she
951
00:53:41.699 --> 00:53:45.880
she visited hotels where, you know, Jeffrey Dahmer was that,
952
00:53:45.980 --> 00:53:49.429
you know, the whole story about that. And a few
953
00:53:49.489 --> 00:53:55.090
other places, a few museums and stuff. And I'm sure
954
00:53:55.130 --> 00:53:57.150
she got tons of stories to tell.
955
00:53:57.809 --> 00:54:03.010
Okay. So y'all are working together. Do you have any plans?
956
00:54:03.150 --> 00:54:05.590
I know you're very, very busy with work and life,
957
00:54:05.929 --> 00:54:07.940
but do you have any plans to go to some
958
00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:10.420
of these places and actually investigate it yourself?
959
00:54:11.420 --> 00:54:13.599
Right now we don't, I'm not going to say we
960
00:54:13.619 --> 00:54:16.159
do cause we don't, but it is every day in
961
00:54:16.199 --> 00:54:20.260
the back of our minds. And I feel that one
962
00:54:20.300 --> 00:54:22.320
of these days is going to be, let's go now,
963
00:54:22.699 --> 00:54:26.360
you know, we just going to shoot somewhere that, um.
964
00:54:27.260 --> 00:54:28.679
Uh, it probably will have to be locally.
965
00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:31.610
That's the only thing because I, you know, my job
966
00:54:31.650 --> 00:54:32.309
and stuff like that.
967
00:54:32.550 --> 00:54:36.230
Um, going in at 2 AM is just, it's, it's hard.
968
00:54:36.269 --> 00:54:36.809
It's a killer.
969
00:54:37.269 --> 00:54:37.469
Yeah.
970
00:54:37.530 --> 00:54:37.789
Yeah.
971
00:54:37.929 --> 00:54:38.329
You know, so.
972
00:54:39.239 --> 00:54:41.780
But we do what we can. And, you know, again,
973
00:54:42.340 --> 00:54:45.860
we love this stuff. It's what keeps us going. We
974
00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:49.699
love looking at ghost hunters on TV, all that stuff.
975
00:54:49.739 --> 00:54:52.360
You know, your podcast, all the other podcasts that I
976
00:54:52.409 --> 00:54:53.420
see that's paranormal.
977
00:54:53.449 --> 00:54:54.469
You know, and I learn a lot.
978
00:54:54.909 --> 00:54:56.329
I learn a lot, too. And then I put two
979
00:54:56.369 --> 00:54:57.969
and two together, and I'm like, oh, that's what it was,
980
00:54:57.989 --> 00:55:01.210
you know? Like, for example, my grandma, she had a
981
00:55:01.230 --> 00:55:04.409
house on Racine Street. She kept telling me she kept
982
00:55:04.429 --> 00:55:08.559
seeing a little boy in front of her mattress. And
983
00:55:08.579 --> 00:55:15.460
I'm like, Grandma, you take your pills? And she's like, Pee-wee,
984
00:55:16.960 --> 00:55:17.719
I was okay.
985
00:55:17.739 --> 00:55:18.940
Trust me. She kept repeating it.
986
00:55:20.139 --> 00:55:22.559
I did an investigation on the house, and I went online,
987
00:55:22.579 --> 00:55:24.570
and I found out that that house was burnt down
988
00:55:24.639 --> 00:55:27.760
at one point, and a little boy died in the
989
00:55:27.820 --> 00:55:31.329
closet smelling the black smoke, and the closet is right
990
00:55:31.349 --> 00:55:32.190
in front of her mattress.
991
00:55:33.110 --> 00:55:33.730
There you go.
992
00:55:34.809 --> 00:55:35.070
Yeah.
993
00:55:35.570 --> 00:55:37.230
All right.
994
00:55:37.809 --> 00:55:40.599
All right. Well, Angel, thanks for coming on. It's been great.
995
00:55:40.619 --> 00:55:42.739
And I love your stories. Would you hang loose for
996
00:55:42.760 --> 00:55:44.019
just a minute? I want to talk to you a
997
00:55:44.019 --> 00:55:44.900
little bit after the show.
998
00:55:44.960 --> 00:55:45.280
Okay.
999
00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:47.139
Awesome. Thank you so much.
1000
00:55:47.380 --> 00:55:50.630
If you get some more good stuff going, uh, more adventures,
1001
00:55:51.190 --> 00:55:52.929
let me know. We need to get you back on here.
1002
00:55:52.989 --> 00:55:53.309
Okay.
1003
00:55:54.010 --> 00:55:54.670
No problem.
1004
00:55:54.690 --> 00:55:56.269
We'll do. All right, brother.
1005
00:55:57.030 --> 00:56:00.329
Talk to you in a few minutes. Standby. You know,
1006
00:56:00.349 --> 00:56:02.289
you got a lot of talking to the new ghost hunters.
1007
00:56:02.369 --> 00:56:05.980
And I remember, uh, Oh, I'm still that excited about
1008
00:56:06.260 --> 00:56:07.820
it when I get to go out and do something
1009
00:56:07.860 --> 00:56:11.199
with Stokes County Paranormal when I go back to Missouri
1010
00:56:11.239 --> 00:56:13.300
and get with my old team and we do things.
1011
00:56:14.469 --> 00:56:17.429
It's just so much fun to hear the excitement and
1012
00:56:17.449 --> 00:56:21.130
the voice when they're really enjoying this. So, hey, guys,
1013
00:56:21.210 --> 00:56:23.070
I am going to have to go back. Remember, join
1014
00:56:23.110 --> 00:56:27.079
up with the Unexplained Network. Go to unexnetwork.com, drop down
1015
00:56:27.099 --> 00:56:30.460
a little bit, and join up. There's so much stuff
1016
00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:32.500
going on, and you're going to miss out on it.
1017
00:56:32.500 --> 00:56:34.710
I don't want to see that. Not a lot of
1018
00:56:34.750 --> 00:56:36.969
new shows, a lot of new in-house shows going to
1019
00:56:36.989 --> 00:56:40.840
be on YouTube available for free. But you still, you're
1020
00:56:40.860 --> 00:56:45.199
missing out on the blog and the magazine newsletter, of course.
1021
00:56:45.980 --> 00:56:49.119
And there's a lot of other perks with being a member.
1022
00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:51.590
So why don't you check that out? And again, I
1023
00:56:51.590 --> 00:56:54.530
want to thank Angel for coming on. This has been
1024
00:56:54.570 --> 00:56:58.650
a really interesting night. But I'm going to move along now.
1025
00:56:58.730 --> 00:57:02.469
So I want you guys, now, of course, summertime's here.
1026
00:57:02.530 --> 00:57:07.090
It's very, very warm. So y'all stay cool, stay comfortable,
1027
00:57:07.130 --> 00:57:10.429
stay hydrated. And above all, I need you guys to
1028
00:57:10.710 --> 00:57:12.570
all stay spooked.
1029
00:57:12.949 --> 00:57:13.329
Okay?
1030
00:57:14.280 --> 00:57:14.530
All right.
1031
00:57:14.550 --> 00:57:15.139
Have a good night.
1032
00:57:47.940 --> 00:57:48.699
Thank you.