Mornings with Graeme Goodings - 1 October 2026

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Speaker 1: Good morning, welcome to a wet Thursday on 5AA. On the show today, well, housing prices continue their downward spiral. Adelaide once again suffering the greatest median home value drop of any capital city over the past 30 days. At the same time, the SA building boom has hit a new record, but headwinds threaten to slow down. We'll have a chat with Will Frogley from the Master Builders Association about that. It's Aging Well Week in South Australia. We're going to speak with Miranda Starkey about that. What are the secrets to ageing well? What do you think it takes? We always hear these interviews of people who've turned 100. You know, what is your secret to a long life, early to bed, don't drink, don't smoke, or whatever, or others defy that. What do you think the secret is to ageing well? Tell us your story on 8223 0000. This being Thursday, we'll have the legal team from Johnston Withers Lawyers in the studio to answer your legal questions. Penny Reedy will also join us to chat fruit and veg. Do you know how many bananas Australians eat a day? It's a staggering number. I'm going to keep it a secret, but be listening. We'll tell you a bit later on. The National Wine Centre is celebrating 25 years as Australia's home of wine. Do you remember when the wine centre was built all those years ago? What did you think at the time when it was being built? It sort of resembled a wine barrel, doesn't it? It's a sort of a part of a wine barrel. But it is an iconic structure, and I think it has fulfilled a purpose. We'll take a look at just how successful it's been a little bit later on this morning. Today is ground zero for the end of credit card surcharges, being October the 1st. Anthony Albanese posted this on social media overnight. Millions of Australians pay by card every day, and when you tap, you could pay an additional card surcharge. Right now, it's costing Australians $ 1. 6 billion every year. From today, those card surcharges will be banned. End of quote. End of what Anthony Albanese had to say. So, have you bought a coffee today? How much did you pay for it? Are you saving money? Now, we pay more for coffee here in Adelaide than any other capital city, which is a sobering thought. We're going to talk more about coffee on this International Coffee Day later, but I'd like to know because The suggestion was that small retailers are not going to be able to absorb the surcharge reduction and they will pass it on. So I think we're paying about $ 6. 20 for a cup of coffee in Adelaide, or we were up until today. So if you've bought a coffee this morning in the CBD or in the suburbs, let's know what you're paying for it. 8223 0000 is the number to ring. On the subject of paying money, would you pay $ 5, 000 for a phone? Here in Adelaide, in the current economic climate, that's a serious chunk of money. Now, you could put $ 5, 000 towards a used car, maybe a wonderful holiday, you could pay your power bill, or you get a few good weekends eating and drinking at some of our fancy restaurants. But instead, some people are prepared to spend five grand on the latest iPhone. Now, if you've got the money, you love technology, fair enough, go for it. But for most of us, I ask the question, Have smartphones priced themselves out of the market? The latest iPhone 18 Pro retails at more than $ 5, 000. Vodafone has apparently just become the first Australian telco to offer a four-year phone repayment plan. That's right, you can now pay off a new handset over 48 months, interest-free. But would you? Do you remember the days when people used to queue up to buy the latest iPhone? They'd queue up overnight. Speaking of queuing up, I remember... Remember Krispy Kreme when it first came to Adelaide? The only way you'd get a Krispy Kreme was at interstate airports and people would bring back a box of Krispy Kreme donuts. So when they opened on Port Road, people went nuts. I remember driving to work, seeing cars queued up, lined up, you know, around the block for kilometres just to get the first Krispy Kreme. Have you been a liner-upper? I mean, I know people do it for footy tickets and we've done that traditionally over the years, but... Are you the sort of person that queues up? I'd like to know your thoughts. 8223 0000 is the number to ring. Concerning news about Live Golf today, we're hearing that it is a serious issue because Kuyonga Golf Course has signed up to be the venue for Live Golf, and there seems to be some suggestions that, well, we know that Live Golf is in financial strife, And they're seeking a court order to find out exactly whether they're going to get the money that they've already outlaid or the costing that they've incurred already. So we'll find out more about that too. 8223 0000 is the number. On the text line, Bell says, Hi, Graham. Last year, we retired and downsized and had to pay $ 82, 000 in stamp duty and fees to the government. We used some money to install solar panels and a battery, $ 17, 000. Today we received our electricity account, $ 780. We only have heating, cooling use. Our gas bill was $ 312 for the same period, cooking and water heater. We are being fooled by this government and Bowen's ego. No wonder people are looking for alternative political parties. Thank you for that, Bell. John at Oakland Sparks phoned in. G'day, John.
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Speaker 2: Good morning, Graeme.
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Speaker 3: How are you?
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Speaker 1: Good, thanks.
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Speaker 3: All right.
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Speaker 2: The issue I want to raise, you know, this issue that we had at Henley Beach yesterday and at Glenelg, right, on our beaches. And I know people say, oh, yeah, school holidays, what have you. But I reckon it's high time. I know that the police department said they've got their program Jericho or whatever it is that they're using. But I think it's high time that these individuals are named and shamed. I really do, because they're getting away with it and no one's wanting to do anything about it. And I honestly believe that down the line, you know, neighbours talking to neighbours, the parents would soon find out, like, your child has been involved in a fray down thing and they've been found guilty of being involved in it.
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Speaker 1: Well, firstly, they've got to be singled out, don't they, John? I mean, that's the thing at the moment. There's lots of hearsay and vision going around, but I don't know that anyone's actually being charged.
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Speaker 2: No, no one's being charged, Graeme, but when they do catch up with these individuals that create this problem, I honestly believe that's how you're going to put a stop to it because I'm sure the parents wouldn't want their family name spread around that it is their child that is creating havoc on our beaches.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, it's an interesting point you make, John. I don't know what the general community reaction would be, but what we're doing at the moment isn't enough.
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Speaker 4: It's not working, is it? No, it's not, Grant.
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Speaker 1: The slap on the wrist when a lot of these youths, and not always youths, it can be older people too, you know, taken to court after committing crimes in public and they get a slap on the wrist, you know, non-custodial sentence, it's not working. So, yeah, look, John, I don't know if that is the answer to name and shame, but I think you'll probably get a lot of support on that. I'd like to know what you think, folks. 8223 0000 is the number. Back shortly.
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Speaker 3: 5AA Mornings with Graeme Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Eighteen past nine, 5AA, on this gloomy Thursday morning, fair to say. Let's take some calls. Paul, good morning.
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Speaker 5: Hey, how are you?
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Speaker 1: Good, thanks.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, these youths, I mean, they're getting more violent, more out of control. And I think chuck them in the military, make them do some service. I mean, they'll certainly learn some self-worth and discipline and respect, you know. They're struggling for people in the army.
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Speaker 7: Send them in there.
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Speaker 1: So you think it should be an automatic thing if you're caught and charged with fighting or violence, serve some time in the military?
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Speaker 6: Yes, definitely. I think that would straighten a lot of them out. And, you know, you've got to do something with them. You can't just keep releasing them to do the same thing over and over again.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that's unfortunately what seems to be happening. You know, they get a slap on the wrist. Don't be naughty. Don't do it again. We don't want to see you in court.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I know they're not going to get in trouble, real trouble, you know.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's a fair point. Good on you, Paul. Thanks for that. Sheila at Moorhead. Well, g'day, Sheila.
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Speaker 8: Good morning, Brian. Thanks for taking my call. This is a follow-on from that previous caller and the one before that. We've seen on the news the last couple of nights about, you know, a king hit on a poor guy, young man, by a guy hitting three times. The guy went down in hospital with serious head injuries. The guy that did it has walked away from court. with no jail sentence. The book guy that he hit has been damaged for life with brain injuries. What appears to be happening is it falls down in the court's ground. That guy should not have walked away. I think he got a six-month suspended sentence.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 8: He walked out and put thumbs up. Well, what does that tell us? And also what that previous guy said about put them in, you know, the military, we'll send them off to boot camp for six months.
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Speaker 9: It's absolutely disappointing.
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Speaker 8: What we see in lovely Adelaide. I know it's happening everywhere, but to me it's falling down in the courts. There's not enough of them being sentenced, and they just walk away, thumbs.
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Speaker 5: Up, I'm okay.
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Speaker 8: Well, what does that tell us? the other young people.
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Speaker 1: It sets no level of example, does it? No, thank you for that, Sheila. Yeah, I think we need to look at other alternatives. Whether military service boot camp is the answer, I don't know. But what is being done at the moment to control youth crime, youth violence, let's face it, is not working. 21 past nine, 5AA. Well, housing prices continue their downward spiral. Adelaide once again suffering the greatest median home value drop of any capital city over the past 30 days. To tell us about it, Eleanor Creer from realestate.com.au. Eleanor, good morning to you. Thanks for your time today.
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Speaker 10: Good morning.
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Speaker 11: Thanks for having me.
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Speaker 1: So tell us about the latest start-up.
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Speaker 11: We've seen the Adelaide home prices fell by 0.6% in September. That was actually the largest monthly fall of any capital city. Now, prices have declined for four consecutive months in Adelaide. They're down 2.5% below their May peak, although they remain up just a little over 5% from levels seen this time last year. However, that annual price growth is very much a rear-mirror view. Because we know that the market has turned quite sharply in recent months with interest rates continuing to rise and prices have fallen for the past four months. And actually, Adelaide prices have fallen by around 2.2% over the past quarter. And if we annualize that pace of decline, that's roughly a kind of 8.6%. annual fall if that pace was sustained. So it's a significant change for a market that had been one of the country's strongest performers. And of course, higher interest rates are reducing how much buyers can borrow and pay.
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Speaker 12: For a property.
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Speaker 11: And of course, the extraordinary price growth that we've seen in recent years in Adelaide has substantially eroded the affordability advantage that the city once held.
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Speaker 1: So how do the Adelaide figures compare to the national scene?
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Speaker 11: So we are seeing that prices are falling nationally. National home prices have fallen for six consecutive months. They're down just a little over 3% from peak levels.
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Speaker 13: The capital cities are.
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Speaker 11: Really bearing the brunt of this downturn. So Adelaide very much in the trend of what we're seeing across the other capitals.
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Speaker 5: But I guess what is.
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Speaker 11: Interesting is that earlier on in this downturn, we were seeing that Sydney and Melbourne were recording the fastest pace of price falls. And there's still the capital cities with the largest decline from peak levels in this correction so far. But over the past couple of months, we've actually seen that it's Perth, Brisbane and Adelaide that are now recording the fastest pace of price falls as the downturn has broadened across the capital city markets. And they, of course, were some of the country's strongest performers. So we're seeing a clear shift in conditions across the country.
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Speaker 1: So is it just down to higher interest rates causing the downturn?
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Speaker 11: Now, of course, higher interest rates are a part of what's going on here. So we've seen the Reserve Bank lifting interest rates four times this year already. That's a significant reduction to maximum borrowing capacities, pushes mortgage servicing costs higher, and of course, reduces the amount that buyers can afford to borrow and eventually pay for a home. But we have, of course, seen Other factors are taking a role too. So the taxation changes that we saw in the May federal budget have really hit investor sentiment and caused a pullback in investor activity. And of course, some of the economic uncertainty that we have at the moment around whether we're going to see another interest rate rise, higher inflation and the like are dampening sentiment and confidence. And I think that's also playing a role in the price falls we're seeing today.
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Speaker 1: Now, the government took deliberate measures to see house prices turn downwards. Do you think it's going beyond what they expected?
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Speaker 11: Now, I think when we look at the taxation changes in the budget, we've clearly seen that the changes to capital gains tax and negative gearing have impacted investor sentiment. But those changes are very much focused around investors. And the dominant driver of house price falls at the moment is certainly interest rates. So we know that interest rates affect all buyers. whether you're an investor or an owner-occupier. But certainly less competition from investors at a time when buyer demand is already weaker is adding to the downward pressure on prices. But interest rates are really the dominant factor as to why we're seeing prices.
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Speaker 5: Fall at the moment.
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Speaker 1: A drop in home values to someone who's been in their home for 5, 10, 15 years is just a minor annoyance if they're not considering selling. But this is putting pressure on somebody who's just bought into the market, possibly in the last 12 months or so.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, you're exactly right. It very much depends upon which side of the fence you're sitting because those existing homeowners are still sitting on substantial home equity gains. So if we look at Adelaide over the past 10 years, prices have more than doubled. Over the past five years, home values are still up more than 60%. So these falls are small in comparison to the price growth, the really extraordinary price growth that we've seen of recent years in Adelaide's housing market. So existing homeowners likely to be sitting on substantial equity buffers. For those that have recently purchased, that's not the case. And for those that are looking to purchase, while conditions are better for prospective buyers at the moment in terms of there's less competition, there's less urgency to transact, homes are taking longer to sell, there's more choice. All those sort of things. It's a double-edged sword at the moment because the price falls have not been enough to offset the reduction in borrowing capacity that we've seen with high interest rates. So affordability is actually at record low levels. So whilst a buyer might negotiate to pay less for a home as prices are falling, it's not more affordable for them in terms of the amount that they can afford to borrow for purchasing that home and mortgage servicing costs are higher as well. So tricky conditions for prospective buyers and first-time buyers at the moment.
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Speaker 1: Eleanor, thanks so much for your insights. That's realestate.com.au senior economist and report author Eleanor Crear. Our house prices in Adelaide have dropped more than the national average. Will that continue? Well, We're going to speak with Will Frogley after news headlines. The SA building boom has hit record levels, which is a good sign, but there are headwinds and they threaten a slowdown. We'll speak with Will Frogley coming up shortly. 5AA Mornings with Graeme Goodings. Thanks, Gail. 29 to 10, 5AA. Steve says, Re-coward punch, here we go again. No consequences for serious crimes. Judges continue this softly, softly approach, which has not worked for 30 years. Mandatory sentencing, the only answer. Take the power away from the judges. If a mistake is made, they can appeal the mandatory sentence. It's not hard. Thank you for that, Steve. 8223 0000 is the number to ring if you want to comment. Well, we've been talking about the housing industry, particularly here in South Australia. Well, the industry locally has delivered a record-breaking year. Construction-wise, Will Frogley, the CEO of the Master Builders SA, joins us. Will, good morning to you.
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Speaker 14: Good morning, Graeme. Great to be with you as always.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, a boom in new townhouses and apartments. A record year of housing construction in South Australia, but not all positive news.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, well, that's right.
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Speaker 15: Well, we've definitely had a fantastic year. The last financial year delivered a whopping $ 22 billion worth of work, Graeme. That's an all-time high, which is really fantastic to see. And there was also a record 15,368 new dwelling starts. So I think everyone knows the industry has been very busy.
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Speaker 14: So that's obviously fantastic to see. However, I would warn that things are cooling pretty.
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Speaker 15: Quickly due to a variety of factors, the overall economy, business confidence, and in particular the federal budget in May.
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Speaker 14: So we are seeing things cool off pretty quickly.
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Speaker 16: So....
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Speaker 1: That's the positive side, and that's good. We're obviously outperforming other states when it comes to construction. But you've foreshadowed what is happening here. Are there things the government is not aware of, or are they aware of them and just not taking the action necessary?
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Speaker 14: I think they're aware of them.
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Speaker 15: I think it's, from a South Australian perspective, Graeme, I think it's very frustrating that the wind has largely been taken out of our sails by poor decisions at.
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Speaker 14: A federal level.
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Speaker 15: It seems unbelievable that a time that we're desperate to build more homes, that policy settings would be coming in that would make that more challenging. But the reality is that the changes that came in the federal budget have definitely cooled confidence. And that flows right through our industry with things like job hires, apprentice commencements, that type of thing. But it also flows through the whole economy and Well, I think there is a really big risk for South Australia is the housing market in particular has really propped up the state's economy and the state budget over the last few years. There's been windfall revenue coming in through property taxes, which is good for the government, obviously, and their position and their ability to fund other things. But if the housing market does cool off significantly, prices level off or go backwards and demand really drops off, that's going to put the state budget under severe pressure.
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Speaker 1: So the state government is taking the handbrake off to some degree, and that has worked positively.
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Speaker 14: Oh, absolutely.
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Speaker 15: I think the state government's thrown a whole heap of great policies that have boosted supply. I mean, I was just talking about the fact that we've just had by far the largest year we've ever had for construction. So I think whilst it's probably hard for them to admit because they're on the same team, I suspect they're probably pretty frustrated about some of these decisions made at a federal level as well.
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Speaker 1: So the federal government has introduced the measures. Which measures should they be re-looking at?
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Speaker 14: Well, I think the, you know, May's federal budget gave.
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Speaker 15: Our industry restrictions on negative gearing, tougher capital gains tax arrangements and tax increases on trusts, which are a vehicle used to structure about 100,000 construction businesses right across the country.
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Speaker 14: And then also the ability of... Self-managed super funds to.
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Speaker 15: Support the construction using new housing stock has also been curtailed. So it was really an unnecessary attack on confidence because, you know, building a new home is the biggest investment most people will make.
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Speaker 14: So a nice, stable environment is always the best.
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Speaker 1: And there's obviously a long lead-up time. Any decision made by a government, both federal or state, is not going to get overnight results.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, and the other factor, of course, is rising interest rates. We saw that again this week. And the RBA keeps urging the federal government to rein in spending, and they've got to get serious on that to get that inflation under control because interest rate changes. Our industry is very sensitive to that in terms of demand.
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Speaker 1: So if we've just had a record year for the construction industry and obviously full employment and beyond, looking into the future, what do you see for the next 12 months?
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Speaker 15: Well, our forecast, which is out today, is we are seeing a forecast reduction this financial year about 5% down to about $ 20.
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Speaker 4: 9 billion.
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Speaker 14: So that's higher than it was in 2024-25.
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Speaker 15: So Whilst it is declining, it is important to keep things in perspective that it is coming off a record high. And then we're looking at probably things relatively stable for the next, say, three or four years. So obviously, we'd like to see that keep growing. And again, the right economic policies can milk the most out of that demand.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, most certainly. So you've been struggling over recent years just by a lack of tradies, a lack of workers. Is that still the case?
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Speaker 14: It's definitely still the case.
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Speaker 15: And Graham, unfortunately, I don't think that's going away anytime soon. And that is, of course, a major productivity challenge for our industry.
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Speaker 14: Productivity in construction.
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Speaker 15: Just continues to go down year after year. And the lack of available people is definitely a reason.
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Speaker 14: But I guess to that, I'd say with every problem, there's opportunity.
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Speaker 15: And if there's shortages, what a great time for anyone to get in the foot of the door that wants to work in construction.
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Speaker 17: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And that seems to be the issue, isn't it? Trying to get people to take on trades, apprenticeships and the like. There are just not enough people wanting to do the jobs.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, everyone's throwing everything at it.
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Speaker 15: It's not a job that suits everybody, but it does suit people who like to be rewarded.
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Speaker 14: For hard work.
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Speaker 15: The money's definitely there through supply and demand. They get paid more and more every year. And the other really good point is they're going to be in demand for many years to come because, unlike a lot of other occupations, Graeme, a trade's a bit of a safe haven from AI.
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Speaker 3: Isn't it?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it certainly is. It's one of the few areas that AI hasn't encroached on already. So how dependent are you on getting trades of people from overseas?
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Speaker 15: Well, Master Builders runs a skilled migration program called Build Connect, which is on behalf of the state government. And, you know, we're putting hundreds of people predominantly from the UK with members across the industry because they just can't find them anywhere else.
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Speaker 14: It's that simple.
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Speaker 1: So how do you go about checking these people's qualifications? We get anecdotal stories sort of saying some of these people coming in from overseas just don't have the skills that are necessary.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, so they get vetted and we work closely with the Skills Commission to make sure that they're appropriately.
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Speaker 14: Skilled and help them get licensed and all that type of thing. So it is quite a rigorous process.
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Speaker 16: Yeah.
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Speaker 14: And also safety is another important factor because... A lot of.
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Speaker 15: Other countries have nowhere near the safety requirements that we have in Australia. And that's a good thing that we have tight safety laws here in South Australia.
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Speaker 14: It has to happen. We're a dangerous industry.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. And to anyone listening who is looking for a good long-term job, becoming a tradie, there's pretty good money in it, isn't there?
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Speaker 15: It goes up every year, and again, that's just a simple matter of supply and demand. You know, if you're prepared to work hard, you can make really good money from being in trade and construction these days. So if that type of thing is important to you, you should definitely give it a look.
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Speaker 1: I hear electricians are in real short supply because the big data centres and AI centres are gobbling them up all over the place.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, absolutely.
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Speaker 15: So, I mean, there already was a shortage of electricians before and the data centres really started booming.
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Speaker 14: That's an excellent career choice to be a Sparky, no doubt about it. There's just so many opportunities out there.
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Speaker 15: I talked about our skilled migration program just before. So we've currently got 70 Sparkys who are ready to go, predominantly from the UK. So that shows that we're doing our best to try and plug those gaps.
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Speaker 1: Will Frogley, always great to chat. Keep up the good work.
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Speaker 14: Fantastic. Thanks a lot, Graeme. Cheers.
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Speaker 1: Will Frogley, CEO of Master Builders SA. So good news and bad news. South Australia's construction industry had a record-breaking year, but the point is there will be somewhat of a downturn, as he suggested, though, that it is still higher than in previous years, so things are pretty good. But he is suggesting that the structure of, or the imposition of what the federal government has done regarding capital gains, tax and negative gearing has impacted negatively. And while the state government's doing all it can to push forward the building and construction industry, the feds are not helping. Your thoughts, love to hear them, 8223 0000. On the text line, Steve says, I live on York's. Yesterday, we went for a drive down one side and up the other. Could not believe how many businesses have been bought by Indians. Hotels, bakeries, supermarkets, petrol stations, shops. It's unbelievable. Thank you for that, Steve. G'day, Graham, from Harry. Record year for housing, and the majority of them out of the reach for young Australians. And that is the issue, isn't it? And I feel for anyone who's bought a home in the last 12 months or so with the government incentive of, you know, 5% deposit, which is great to get into a house, but if you bought the property for, you know, say $ 560, 000, only to find out that 12 months later it's worth $ 490, 000, you have negative equity in that, and that would cause a little concern. No doubt if you've been in the house for five years, 10 years, 15 years, 20 years, and you've seen huge rises over those times, a drop back of a few percent is not going to impact you. But if you're just in, no reason or no wonder that people are concerned about it. 8223 0000 is the number to ring on violence in the suburbs. Hi, Graham. I agree the punishments should be harsher, I grew up in Henley in the 90s and the early 2000s. This kind of stuff happened all the time in the summer. Most of us, bar a few, turned out okay. Most of these kids will never be able to afford a house in this area when they're older. Let's focus on housing affordability instead. And Colin on interest rates. If supply of housing is the issue, why, why, why aren't we freeing up established dwellings for the first homeowners, including stamp duty relief and first homeowners grants? First homeowners grants should be for any type of dwelling, not just new builds, plus bring back concessional home loans for borrowers, which we had during the 60s, 70s and 80s. The strategy has proven Economics 101 and will lead to stabilising the market. A case of throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Thank you for that, Colin. If you have any thoughts, 8223 0000 is the number to ring. Have you bought a coffee today? Has the price gone up? Anthony Albanese released a statement on social media saying millions of Australians pay by card every day. And when you tap, you could pay an additional card surcharge. From today, those card surcharges will be banned. So we know already in Adelaide that you're paying the highest price for coffee, on average $ 6. 20 for a medium cup of coffee. Will the retailer, will the small coffee shop pass on that cost? So if you bought a coffee this morning, let's know what it cost you. Because this is International Coffee Day, by the way. How do you take your coffee? Have you always been a fan of coffee? I've got to be really honest. I've always absolutely loved the smell of coffee, brewing coffee, absolutely superb. But it's only been probably about the last five years that I enjoy a coffee, I must say. Love it with oat milk. It's got to be decaffeinated because I'll be climbing up the walls if otherwise. But yeah, the way coffee has changed over the years from just going in and ordering a flat white, the variations these days of cappuccinos and lattes and shot of this and a shot of that and i'll have it with oat milk i'll have it with almond milk or chia latte i don't know there's so many different types of coffee chai latte not chia No, that's it. Thank you, Sam. You're always there to guide me in the right direction. Chai latte. Baristas must be driven mad because once upon a time it was all so easy, but now it's not so. Your thoughts on coffee on this International Coffee Day. Give us a call. 5AA Mornings with Graham Goodings. 12 to 10, 5AA on this International Coffee Day. And Adelaide coffee drinkers are being reminded just how expensive your daily caffeine habit has become. New data from Square puts the average takeaway coffee in Adelaide at $ 6.
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Speaker 3: 22.
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Speaker 1: That's higher than every other mainland state except Queensland. If you're in Victoria, $ 5.
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Speaker 11: 90, $ 5.
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Speaker 1: 70 in New South Wales. In Western Australia, $ 5.
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Speaker 17: 86.
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Speaker 1: Here in Adelaide, $ 6.
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Speaker 5: 22.
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Speaker 1: And according to Compare the Market... The average Australian spends almost $ 2, 000 a year buying one takeaway coffee a day. Do you fall into that category? Would you spend $ 2, 000 a year on coffee and think nothing of it? But when it's put in cold, hard terms like that, $ 2, 000 out of your pocket for a coffee, but could you live without it? What's happening on the stock market? We'll take some calls in a moment. Your calls on 8223 0000. Not a great start for the markets this morning. The All Ords is down by 0.99%. ASX 200 down by 1%. Dow Jones closed by 0.86%. However, the NASDAQ was up by 0.24%. Oil, Brent crude, 103.53 US dollars a barrel. West Texas crude, 90.3 US dollars a barrel. And gold, 4,155 US dollars an ounce. Aussie dollar has slipped slightly. It's currently buying 69.4 US cents. Let's take some calls. Paul, good morning.
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Speaker 18: G'day, Graeme. How are you?
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Speaker 1: Good, thanks.
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Speaker 18: Traditionally, we got in the building industry, apprentices all came from children who weren't gifted academically and wanted to get into the building industry that they could work outside with their hands and do very well. So what happens now, those children that come out of high school, the first thing we want to do is put them back into a classroom with compliance and all this sort of stuff. And they just throw their hands in the air and go, well, I left school because I hated it. I hate the building industry because they're doing the same thing to me.
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Speaker 1: That's an interesting observation, Paul.
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Speaker 18: And it's not going to get any better because productivity of every day I have a worker on my site, I lose at least an hour in red tape.
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Speaker 1: That long?
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Speaker 18: So how are we going to make money with between toolbox meetings, swims that have to be filled out, all these things that have to be done. And then to the poor employer, he's got hours of paperwork after the end of the day to do.
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Speaker 1: So, Paul, as somebody in the industry, what do you think should be done to streamline the whole process?
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Speaker 18: Look, I agree totally with Will Frogley. Safety issues have to be done, you know, 100%. You can't get around that. But rather than sit a kid at a table and say... oh, look at these pretty pictures, fill out what's got to be done and you work out and we'll give you a mark at the end of the day. Take that same apprentice out to the scissor lift and demonstrate to him exactly what's got to be done. He's going to learn far more from that and he can be on the job type training rather than all this paperwork that's got to be done to tick off that you've done a course that, you know... working from heights and all this sort of thing. Do it on the job. Do it correctly.
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Speaker 5: It still has to be ticked off.
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Speaker 18: But it's not sitting down in a classroom doing it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's common sense, Paul. And probably the problem is that there's not a whole lot of common sense going around.
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Speaker 18: Not from this federal government. There's absolutely none.
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Speaker 1: Good on you, Paul. Thanks for your call. Yeah, look, we've got to get back to grassroots and basics, as Paul said, learning more on the job. The red tape that is just... I can't remember the figure. The red tape and the things, the hoops that builders and construction people have to go through to get a licence or approval to build a property, it adds tens of thousands of dollars to the cost of every property. No wonder costs are going up. Speaking of costs going up, Tony says, Hi, Graeme, coffee at the survey is from $ 2. Pretty good too. Thank you for that. Ashley says $ 2, 000 per year on coffee. I'm sure they're buying breakfast on weekends too. And then they say they can't afford a house deposit and blame the government. Yeah, what happened to making a cup of coffee at home? Do people still drink the old, what's it, Bushels and Ness Cafe, that you just put a teaspoon of coffee in a cup? Not being a coffee drinker, I'm not so sure about it, but yeah, that's a lot cheaper than paying, what is it, $ 6. 22 for a coffee in Adelaide at the moment. Marty, good morning.
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Speaker 12: Good morning, Graeme.
00:34:54
Speaker 5: I'm a Sparky. I've been in the business. I've retired now. I used to teach at TAFE.
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Speaker 19: I've taught many, many apprentices over many years in the different companies that I've worked for.
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Speaker 5: Now, that comment from the last.
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Speaker 19: Guy that just came on the radio saying, oh, we took the not-so-smart kids and put them into apprenticeships.
00:35:12
Speaker 5: The reason why we've got.
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Speaker 19: SWIMS and the reason why the highest level of students has to enter TAFE and pass the electrical test, apprenticeships, programs, etc., is because if we don't teach these young guys and get them qualified to the highest level, electricity kills people, will kill them, and will kill others if they put an installation together either in a house or in any commercial place. Very, very dangerous.
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Speaker 5: The standards have risen.
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Speaker 19: Over many, many, many years. And to hear a comment that we need to change that or lower the standards is an absolute abysmal comment to make.
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Speaker 5: On the radio.
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Speaker 1: I take on board what you're saying, Marty, but are we being bogged down with red tape? The safety standards have to be met. I concur with you 100% on that. But do you think that we are being bogged down in the system?
00:36:06
Speaker 19: Graham, let me just point one thing out to you, okay? I've been looking at safety and standards, and I've been teaching over many, many, many years.
00:36:15
Speaker 5: Let me tell you something, right?
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Speaker 19: The mining industry in this country, right, is responsible for the highest levels of safety right across all trades, okay? Now, unless people realize and look at the figures in the past, okay, I worked overseas in the Middle East. I'm a 70% burns victim because of a certain situation was taking place and the standards weren't being met. Australia produces the highest quality tradesmen, the highest standards, the highest, the best electricians. You never drop the standards. And the reason why the tick boxes and the SWIMs and all these standards are there, is to keep people alive, and also the people that build these installations, ordinary folk, public, then go into these buildings, and if these buildings are not correct, and the standards are not maintained, fires, buildings will burn, and people will lose their lives, as well as tradesmen, okay? So I'm sorry, mate, you drop the standards, you'll kill people.
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Speaker 1: Marty, salutary words, and I agree, the standards have to be maintained, we can't cut corners just to put more people out there in trades, particularly electricians, who, as you say, if the job is done incorrectly, it can result in lives lost. So, yeah, there's no way the standards should be compromised at all. Dave, good morning.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, good morning, Graeme.
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Speaker 20: Interesting conversation, and to a certain extent, I do sort of understand what Paul's saying. Marty's 100% on electrical trades. I, you know, I always take the mickey out of my electrical mates. It's red to red, blue to blue, green to green, whatever it happens to be. But safety within the electrical side is paramount. The standards must be met. But from a red tape slash productivity sense, the argument will always be that if you have an incident as what Marty is describing... your costs will be significantly more and your downtime will be significantly more than what the productivity offset is. So in one sense, the argument from the unions will be very, very strong on that because it's a no-brainer and it's an easy argument to win. However, we used to price work in the Pilbara and we used to perform work in the Pilbara and we went from sort of 90% efficiency in our pricing structure down to 60%. And the reason being, just as Marty said, the standards with the mining industry are significant in construction and in mining. And, you know, one false move and you're in a hell of a lot of trouble. But you're working in construction in mining. You're working out in the paddock in significantly hot conditions, in full clothing, full cover, hands covered, all that sort of thing. So your brakes, your frequency for hydration, all of those sort of things are far more higher. again, if you have a hydration issue, all of a sudden you're down. You're stopping work and everyone needs the toolbox and all of that. So getting that balance right has always been a real argument. I used to be very staunch on it, but the more and more I see and the longer I've been in the industry for 35 years, started, didn't know what a swim was 35 years ago, didn't exist. High vis didn't exist. Safety boots were not mandatory. Hard hats were, yeah, right, she'll be right. and it was more self-compliance than what is the level of compliance now. The only issue is, from my perspective, productivity, what the answer is there. That is what's killing this industry, and I don't know how you fix it. You've got to keep people safe.
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Speaker 1: I get it. Good on you, Dave. You made some very important points there. You're dead right, as Marty was right. We cannot compromise safety just to get more tradies out there. We have to comply with standards. The standards have risen over the years and for obvious reasons, and they should never be compromised. On the subject of coffee, morning GG, I have a teaspoon of Nescafe Blend 43 with hot milk every morning all my working life. And think how much you've saved if you're not spending $ 2, 000 a year on coffee. That's what the average person spends if they buy a coffee from their coffee shop. Monday to Friday over the year, $ 2, 000 or more. Do you spend that much? Love to hear your story. 8223 0000. After the news, it's International Week of Older Persons. What is the secret to keeping well in older life? Back shortly.
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Speaker 3: 5AA Mornings with Graeme Goodings.
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Speaker 1: 8 past 10. Good morning to you. Thanks for giving us your time. If you've got any thoughts on the day's events or something you'd like to bring to our attention, love to hear from you on 8223 0000 is the number. Bernard says, hi, Graham, $ 2, 000 a year for a morning ritual, which gives people pleasure. There's nothing compared to other expenses, which give us nothing in return. Money well spent, I say. Good on you, Bernard. Yeah, that's all about coffee. That's what the average person spends a year. If you have a coffee when you're on your way to work, on your way home, a lunch break, daily coffee, you're spending about $ 2, 000 a year. Well, Aging Well Week in South Australia starts today. To tell us all about it is Miranda Starkey from Counselling the Aging. Miranda, good morning to you.
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Speaker 17: Good morning, Graeme, and happy start of SA's Week of Aging Well.
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Speaker 1: It's good to be part. Look, I think we need to be ageing well at all ages. Absolutely, we do. What is the highlight? I believe that you're getting people older, South Australians, to share their stories of ageing and life.
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Speaker 12: Well, that's right.
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Speaker 17: Council on Ageing really every single day and every single week is our week of ageing well, to be honest. That's our focus. That's what we're here for as the peak body for older South Australians. But yesterday we had a special event to celebrate the United Nations International Day of the Older Person. And you're right, we brought together some ordinary South Australians, everyday South Australians, and we asked them to share their stories about, you know, what ageing well means to them and how they have navigated the ups and downs of ageing that we all have. So very often, as you know, we can be focused on the burden of age, all of the negatives, the challenges, all of the hardships that can come with getting older. But this week and today, the International Day of the Older Person, we want to not ignore that, not forget that that is real, but just let's focus on and celebrate the really great things that can come with ageing. Because when we talk to older South Australians and we say, you know, on the whole, what's one word to describe your stage of life right now? A word that we hear quite often is freedom. And that is this sense that, you know, I've reached a point in my life where I don't really care as much about what other people think about my choices. You know, I feel good in my own skin. You might have more time to do the things that you want. You can look back over your life and the relationships, family maybe that you've created and that sense of happiness and joy that can come in those moments. And as I say, it is not for everybody. There's no one size fits all for aging and we do know that there are people that are very much struggling and that can be age-related. But And even so, there are always things to be grateful for and there's always things that we can celebrate.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well, everyone's got a story. And, you know, as you get older, 50, 60, 70 years, you've got a lot of stories to tell and everyone's coming from a different direction and everyone's had their hurdles to overcome. But from the people you've heard from, is there any sort of ongoing theme of positivity?
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Speaker 10: Yeah.
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Speaker 17: Yeah, absolutely. And I think that one of the things we know at COTA, we sort of talk about four pillars to aging well, and I'll tell you what they are. These are the four things that really help us all age well. Having good mental and physical health, having security, whether that's a roof over our head and money to do the things that we need, having a sense of purpose, whether that's going to work or having a routine of any kind, a habit, exercise, volunteering, caring for someone else and having a sense of connection, having relationships in our life, whether they are intimate relationships, whether they are community relationships, that that's very important. And then all of that needs to be wrapped around with an ability, a skill to navigate those changes because we continue to encounter different stages and changes. And it's actually the key to aging well is being able to roll with that and to be able to navigate and transition well and adapt. So what we heard yesterday from the speakers at our special event was that ability to sort of every now and then be quite reflective and think about what their life was right now, what they might want to do differently. And I guess to not always think that what I've always done or what I've always enjoyed, if I can't do that now because of my physical ability or because You know, I've moved home or I don't have that friend around anymore. It's not to think, well, therefore, I can't do that at all. It's to reimagine what else could it look like. So if you really enjoyed traveling, but you can't walk as easily to enjoy those big walks around, you know, new places. well, what else could you do? Like, you know, take a cruise or could you take a bus tour or could you go with a friend that can help you with your mobility? Are there different ways of doing things? If you were friends with someone that you used to do exercise with, for example, and that's not possible anymore, don't give up the friendship altogether. Reach out and find other ways to keep connecting. We also heard from carers of, you know, one woman saying, Lynn shared her story of caring for her husband with dementia and she talked about how lonely that could be and how isolating that the phone stopped ringing and people stopped inviting her for a coffee or didn't want to drop in. And she really appealed to everyone, you know, please reach out to people, you know, you'll be a friend, give them support, offer to help in various ways, offer to connect. And so I think one theme was Stay connected. Reach out to your community. Do what you can to volunteer, to share your life experiences and your wisdom, because they all have value. And it will not only help others, but give you a great sense of identity and value and purpose.
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Speaker 1: Now, Miranda, I know we've got to let you go in just a moment, but if anyone wants more advice and information on aging well, what should they do?
00:47:29
Speaker 17: Well, please give COTA SA a call, 82320422, 82320422, or you can visit our website, cotasa.org.au. We're not-for-profit independent, so absolutely you can trust us to give you information and advice that we've got no other interest in apart from wanting you to age well. And we've got great volunteer older people on our reception that would love to listen and have a chat. and give you some information about things that can help you age well.
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Speaker 14: Wonderful.
00:48:01
Speaker 1: Miranda, always great to chat. That's Miranda Starkey, CEO of the Council on the Aging South Australia. It's Aging Well Week. What is your secret to aging well? How have you aged over the years, and what advice would you pass on to others? Give us a call. Love to hear it. 8223 0000. We may have a power outage in the city. Bill has texted, and... I can't quite read what you've sent, Bill. I'll get it up in a moment. But there's an outage detail. So, Sam, can you just check this outage somewhere around Light Square, I believe. But we will check on that. Thank you for bringing it to our attention, Bill. Back shortly.
00:48:38
Speaker 3: 5AA Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: A good time for your calls. If you'd like to comment on the events of the day, give us a call now, 8223 0000. Regarding that power outage, there is one. It happened about nine o'clock, just after nine, in fact. Affected areas between Light Square and Gawler Place. Dozens of local restaurants, cafes, the TAFE SA Adelaide campus, the Adelaide Town Hall and the Advertiser building. The first crew available will attend. I'm sure they're on the scene already, and the estimated time of restoration, 11am. If you're impacted, about 104 customers are affected, evidently. If you're impacted, give us a call, let us know about it.
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Speaker 14: 8223.
00:49:20
Speaker 1: 8223 0000 is the number. Nick, good morning.
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Speaker 21: Morning, Graeme. I just want to make a comment about those young kids that I learned to be tried. I know this young lad. He wants to be a Sparky. He lives at Eden Hills. He's like, Nick, I'm going to pour out like five dice a week. By the time I buy my petrol, there's nothing left. They're using those kids, men. They're absolutely using them. I said, what about you drive public transport? He's like, oh, you're going to be jogging. I won't get there if I do that.
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Speaker 1: So it's too far to travel. Yeah, take an hour or so more to get there, I guess.
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Speaker 21: Yeah, I don't find them enough. I had a friend of mine done a veranda, right? And he had a little kid do the job. And he took the money and the little kid took the rest, what's left over.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I take your point. And that's what we hear a lot, Nick, unfortunately, that a lot of young people are saying, you know, if I'm going to do a trade as an apprenticeship, there's just not enough money because I see my friends getting basic jobs here and there, earning twice as much as I am. So unless you're dedicated and really want to become a sparky or a chippy or a plumber or whatever, unless you're really focused and that's what you want, you might say, well, I can earn a lot more elsewhere. Andrew says, it's pretty rich elbow saying the banning of the card surcharge will save us money. Businesses, as they should, will just up product costs to cover it. Yeah, I agree entirely, Andrew. I don't know what planet the prime minister is living on. If he says, oh, look, you know, you're paying out $ 1. 6 billion a year on these credit surcharges. Now we've banned them. What does he think will happen? Does he think the banks will absorb them? Well, if you're dealing with your bank, Over the last few days, you'll know that no way they're going to up the rates. They're going to reduce your privileges if you've got rewards, cards and the like. And small retailers can't afford to absorb it. So I don't know what planet the Prime Minister is living on. Graeme, good morning.
00:51:24
Speaker 8: Good morning.
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Speaker 22: I got a prediction based on what Jim Chalmers has stated since the Reserve Bank increased interest rates. and Labour government's policy settings. I believe the Reserve Bank is going to decrease house prices and reset the market, as it should be done, because everything is relative to the average wage earner. So I believe that it could possibly... reset to five or six times the average wage, the housing market.
00:52:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is it at the moment, about 10 or 12, something like that?
00:52:15
Speaker 22: Yeah, something like that.
00:52:16
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:52:17
Speaker 22: Which, and interest rates from the Reserve Bank will do that if they're increased by another one in November and maybe.
00:52:27
Speaker 9: Two next year, predicted, if.
00:52:31
Speaker 22: The Labour government doesn't change its spend above GT. I can't even pronounce it now. But they're running at 24%, I think, and they're spending 27 nearly.
00:52:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. They're spending more than they're bringing in, which we all know, if you try and live like that, you're going to lead a very short life financially anyway.
00:52:58
Speaker 22: So, yeah, I feel sorry for the ones that are bought into the market. in the last three years, four years, because potentially they're going to be in serious negative equity.
00:53:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, good on you, Graeme. Thanks for that. On that very subject, the Prime Minister and the Treasurer, Jim Chalmers, have spoken this morning. The Prime Minister addressed the issue of the 5% deposit and the number of new people that have bought houses. who are facing negative equity, and this is what he had to say.
00:53:28
Speaker 23: What I say is that there are less people in negative equity now from the latest figures than there were under the former government around 2000 during the last decade. So the truth is that people are investing when you invest in your home. It's an investment in long term. It's an investment in the security that comes from a roof over your head. And having a security of roof over your head enables you to plan with certainty, to have a family, to invest in education. You get better health outcomes. You get better outcomes across the board when people have the security of a roof over their head.
00:54:10
Speaker 1: That was the Prime Minister speaking this morning. Meantime, the Treasurer, Jim Chalmers, was grilled about rising interest rates. You take responsibility for the state of the economy.
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Speaker 24: Well, I take responsibility for all aspects of my part of the fight against inflation. And that means continuing to manage the budget responsibly, rolling out cost of living relief where we can afford to do that, and also dealing with some of these longer-term challenges that Scott Morrison and his colleagues left neglected for too long.
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Speaker 1: So notice the theme there? Both Albo and Jim Chalmers said, it's not our problem. It's the previous government's problem. There should be a statute of limitations that when you take power, you've got 12 months to blame the previous government. Then it's on you. What are your thoughts? 8223 0000 is the number. Steve says, the roller coaster of life. You start off with all the excitement, something exhilarating and new. Then comes the first terrifying plunge. Then you're relieved to go up again. Next thing, twists and turns, exhilaration, more terror. Finally, it slows down and levels out. Most of us don't really want to go through it again. Thank you for that, Steve. On the subject of power, as we said, we'll find more details on that. A power outage around the Light Square area. If you're impacted, let us know. 8223 0000 is the number to ring. Grammarly, the education system of old and kids that weren't blessed with an academic mind. Yes, they were mostly promoted to go into trades. Here's the point. The kids that just did not fit in the one-size-fits-all education system were not not smart. Their brains are simply wired differently. They went on to learn trades that some so-called academics couldn't do to save their lives. In 2026, society should recognise that no profession is really more important than another. We all need each other's skills like cogs in a clock. Good on you, Mark. Yeah, well said. And I remember going through the schooling system saying, you've got to have a tertiary education. You've just got to have a tertiary education. Well, not everybody is suited to a tertiary education. And we need tradespeople every bit as much as we need people with a tertiary education, if not more. Brendan, good morning to you.
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Speaker 25: Hi, I'm just wondering whether, you know, with this government spending, whether we need like an independent auditor on what things the government spends on. Because, for example, when the Marshall government was in and they were talking about $ 700 million for a basketball stadium on the Torrens. At that same time, within months of that, in that year, there was a 103-storey luxury apartment building finished in Melbourne CBD that cost $ 900 million. $ 700 million for a box with wooden floor. The amount of money the government spends.
00:56:56
Speaker 5: On things is ridiculous.
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Speaker 25: If private industry did the same thing, it would cost a quarter of that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that's a fair point. I mean, there are audits, and I was talking about it yesterday. There is a federal government audit. But you wonder if they're looking at the right things. Brendan, thanks for your call. Back shortly. And we welcome to the studio Caitlin Walkington and Robyn Nader. Good morning to you both.
00:57:23
Speaker 26: Good morning. Good morning, Graeme.
00:57:25
Speaker 1: No Tim this morning. What's the story there?
00:57:27
Speaker 27: Well, I think he might be drowning his sorrows still from the grand final last weekend.
00:57:32
Speaker 4: Did he go?
00:57:33
Speaker 26: He did go.
00:57:33
Speaker 4: Oh, dear.
00:57:34
Speaker 27: And if anyone remembers last week, his predictions in respect to Lachie Neal were all correct.
00:57:39
Speaker 28: Yeah.
00:57:39
Speaker 26: He was obviously allowed to play.
00:57:42
Speaker 5: Oh, dear.
00:57:42
Speaker 1: So, Tim, if you're listening, I'm sure you're– maybe you won't be listening. Maybe you'll be listening.
00:57:47
Speaker 26: Hopefully, yes, he's resting up and feels better soon.
00:57:50
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:57:50
Speaker 1: Well, having been there and being the subject of a losing grand final, I know exactly what he's going through. So, Tim, our sympathies with you. Be back next week. If you have a question for our legal team, now is the time to ring 8223 0000, the number to ring. Firstly, before we take any calls, I think we all hear horror stories about tenants from hell. There was recently a story that made news recently It seems to be a familiar tale. A couple rented out rooms in their house to tenants who've now stopped paying their rent, but they refuse to leave after even being served with an eviction order. I mean, how does this happen?
00:58:30
Speaker 26: Yeah, this is a particular sad one.
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Speaker 27: So there was a young couple from Vietnam who were living here in Australia, and to just help with the rising cost of living, they decided to rent out some rooms in their house to tenants. That arrangement was working for a period of time until it wasn't. And in those circumstances, the dispute started where there was a high electric bill where they were asking the tenants to pay a part of that and they were refusing and then it escalated from there where they then refused to pay any rent and then they refused.
00:59:09
Speaker 5: To move out.
00:59:10
Speaker 27: This ended up having to, you know, escalate to the point where they had to take legal action. But in the meantime, they're living in a house with these very, very hostile people. hostile tenants and yeah, it would have been a horrible, horrible situation for them to live.
00:59:25
Speaker 26: So it's not an unfamiliar tale.
00:59:28
Speaker 27: I'm not saying that everyone lives with their tenants because that's a pretty extreme example, but we hear from time to time about the people who have their investment property and they're having difficulties with their tenants and things like that. And I think a lot of people in their mind just go to that automatic self-help or air quotations, common sense, where they say, you know, I'll deal with this my way.
00:59:53
Speaker 26: I'll go talk to them about it.
00:59:55
Speaker 27: Or, you know, if they don't pay by this day, I'm going to change the locks and throw all of their stuff onto the street.
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Speaker 26: Can you do that?
01:00:03
Speaker 14: No.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 27: Did you see how long it took me to answer that question? There was no thoughts in it whatsoever. So what I thought we'd talk about today is just how it all works in respect to the law of possession and And it applies to a lot of people, whether you're a tenant or you're a landlord yourself. So I guess the first question that you've got to work out is what is the actual living arrangement and the circumstances? So unsurprisingly, if you've got your adult children living in your house and you've got an arrangement with them to be paying you a contribution towards living costs and they stop doing that, they're not a tenant under the Residential Tenancy Act and you can't just take these legal steps and kick them out. So you've got to have a look at what the actual relationship and the nature of the agreement with these people are. So is it actual a tenant? And if so, have you got a proper tenancy agreement? There's two different types of tenancy agreements you have. So what type of arrangement is in place? Are they a boarder or a lodger? Are they an ex-partner or children? Or is it a friend who is meant to be staying there temporarily? Or is it more an Airbnb situation? Because all of those different relationships and those different arrangements have different legal consequences with what steps you can take and, in fact, what obligations you have with your property. So, the key thing is that you cannot just go through and resolve this yourself. You can't just go change the locks. You can't just kick them out. You can't use force. You can't do anything like that. You have to take the legal steps to get lawful possession. So, the legal steps really really depend on what that relationship is but just just the key takeaway if.
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Speaker 26: Everyone forgets everything else that i'm saying is owning a house and being entitled to access that house are.
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Speaker 27: Totally different things so whether you're the legal owner and then you've got rights to legally um access the property are not always exclusive of each other.
01:02:08
Speaker 1: Wow i mean It would make you think twice about allowing someone to, you know, take over a room or occupy a room.
01:02:16
Speaker 26: Well, I think it is.
01:02:17
Speaker 27: If you're going to do that, you need to make sure that the arrangement is done properly. And that is having everything recorded in a legal agreement.
01:02:24
Speaker 26: And it's making sure.
01:02:25
Speaker 27: That the parties fully understand what that relationship and that agreement actually is. If we are talking about ex-spouses or friends that are staying for a while or, you know, adult children, making it very, very clear what that arrangement is and documenting it all because if you don't have that, you get into this territory where it can be a lot of, you know, hearsay evidence and getting to the heart of what the actual arrangement is can be, you know, a difficult task in and of itself.
01:02:51
Speaker 1: So what if you've gone through the process and you've got a legal agreement and so forth and you still have somebody who just says, I'm not paying rent. I'm not leaving.
01:03:00
Speaker 13: Yeah.
01:03:01
Speaker 27: So, I mean, it depends what the legal agreement is as to what your options are. So if it is a standard residential tenancy agreement, and usually that requires them to have, you know, vacant possession of entire property. So in this situation where it is that they're just staying, you know, in a room or rooms and, you know, they're shared facilities like a shared kitchen or a bathroom, that usually in and of itself isn't a residential tenancy.
01:03:27
Speaker 26: That's more, you know, a board or a lodger under the legal definition.
01:03:31
Speaker 27: But if you've got a residential tenancy, they're occupying your investment property, they've breached the agreement, then your steps is to go through SACAP, South Australian Civil and Administrative Tribunal. First question that would cross most people's mind is, do I need a lawyer to do that? And the answer is no. And in fact, if anyone called me and said, you know, even if it was family or friends and said, hey, Caitlin, this is my situation, can you help out? I would probably say, no, you should be doing it yourself rather than engage a lawyer because the whole structure of SACAT is set up, designed to people to attend themselves and to be able to advocate for themselves so that you're not incurring unnecessary legal fees or, you know, that process isn't getting tied down with, you know, legal loopholes and requirements. So if you've got a residential tenancy, you've got steps, you've got to first of all put them on notice, which is in writing.
01:04:26
Speaker 26: If that notice isn't complied with, then you've.
01:04:28
Speaker 27: Got to go through the SACAT steps where there'd be hearings and SACAT can make an order that they move out. And if then they refuse to listen to SACAT orders, then there is a bailiff that will assist and do that for you. If there is other scenarios, you know, like borders or ex-partners, children, things like that, then the appropriate action is not in fact with SACAT, but it's with the Supreme Court of South Australia. And that's where I would be recommending that you have a lawyer represent you. There is quite serious cost consequences if you're in the Supreme Court and you've brought an action that isn't successful. I mean, the filing fee alone off the top of my head is over $ 3, 000.
01:05:09
Speaker 26: So, you know, it's.
01:05:10
Speaker 27: Not something that you would jump to that course of action without first taking, you know, steps in trying to resolve it with them directly, the lawyer sending a letter.
01:05:19
Speaker 26: And then starting court action.
01:05:21
Speaker 1: It sounds like you really need to go through the formalities. I mean, I can imagine some of these things. Over a coffee, people sort of say, oh, look, I'm looking for somewhere to live. Oh, look, I've got a room. It's all warm and fuzzy, and gee, I'm going to earn a little bit of extra money. And, you know, we'll just do it on a shake hands basis. That's obviously not good enough.
01:05:37
Speaker 21: Yeah, yep.
01:05:39
Speaker 27: And, I mean, I think that that's the problem with law in many aspects is the problem starts with those handshake agreements where perhaps it's really not communicated clearly between the parties that there is obviously a misunderstanding that develops as to what they think the status quo of that, you know, arrangement actually is.
01:05:56
Speaker 26: So having as much recorded in writing as possible. And, I mean, I know that.
01:06:02
Speaker 27: Cash is a very familiar arrangement in these type of scenarios. Avoid any income or paying unnecessary tax. But that obviously can be fraught with difficulties in and of itself because... establishing that relationship and, you know, what the agreement actually were, it just removes one element of evidence in that paper trail as well. So, you know, you really do have to think of all of these considerations before you allow someone to move into your property.
01:06:34
Speaker 1: If you have a legal question for either Caitlin or Robin, now is the time to ring. Switchboard is clear. 8223 0000 is the number to ring. A recent case in Queensland regarding adopted children and claims on estates. This can obviously be a real legal minefield.
01:06:51
Speaker 26: Yeah, yeah, look, it.
01:06:52
Speaker 29: Can, Graeme, and it piqued my interest because it could just as likely happen here in South Australia because we've got similar laws. And in fact, the legal status of this party's adoption was dealt with in Western Australia. So it's definitely a cross-state case. But the gist of it was that the claimant wanted to claim on the estate of her biological father, But the issue was that she'd been legally adopted at the age of one, so right back in 1967.
01:07:28
Speaker 26: So under the law, her.
01:07:30
Speaker 29: Adoptive parents are actually her legal parents, not her biological parents. So she reconnected with her biological father when she was in her 20s. They had a really close relationship for about 35 years. In his will, he left her $ 50, 000 and the balance to his other children. The $ 50, 000... legacy in light of the value of the estate seems quite low because the estate was a $ 1. 5 million estate in Queensland. So at the date of the making of the will and the date of the biological father's death, this lady was still legally adopted by her adoptive parents and she made an application in Western Australia to have that adoption discharged, which was granted and that left the pathway available for her to make a claim on her biological father's estate to say that she wasn't adequately provided for in his will. So it's a really interesting case and one you don't hear of very often. And it piqued my interest because I wondered whether someone could do the same thing here in South Australia. And there certainly are provisions for discharging and adoption under the law here.
01:08:51
Speaker 26: In South Australia.
01:08:53
Speaker 29: Normally, if it was acquired by fraud or duress or something inappropriate, but a new provision was added in 2018 to say that an adoption can be discharged where it's in the best interest of the adopted person when you take into account their rights and welfare, which I find is quite broad. So that's the part of the similar legislation in Western Australia that she was able to have the adoption discharge, which then opened her way to be legally declared a child of her biological father and opened the way for her to make a claim on his estate in Queensland.
01:09:38
Speaker 27: And I do a lot of this work, the contested estate stuff, and I think there is a real big distinction that's important to hone in, is that adoption opposed to a foster child relationship, because a foster child in and of themselves can't bring a claim on, even though it might be in their eyes, their mother or father's estate, unless that adoption was formalised, they've actually got no standing to bring a claim. So there has to be that legally represented or legally recognised relationship to allow someone to bring the claim. So it doesn't stop, you know, a willmaker deciding, oh, I want to provide for, you know, these foster children or, you know, my biological child that was adopted out. You can still obviously record gifts and legacies to them.
01:10:27
Speaker 26: You can include whoever you want in your will.
01:10:29
Speaker 27: But if you don't include them, their rights to come back at your estate are are very, very limited unless you've legally adopted them or they're biologically your children or a stepchild of your spouse.
01:10:43
Speaker 1: 8223 0000 is the number to ring if you have a question. Phil has done just that. Phil, go ahead.
01:10:49
Speaker 7: G'day, how are you going?
01:10:52
Speaker 5: It's a bit of a.
01:10:53
Speaker 12: It's like days of our lives. My sister's husband's mum passed away in 2024 and the three siblings, which one was my sister's husband... were left equal shares. They were all powers of attorney, and two were executors, one being my deceased husband. Four months ago, at this point, he didn't have a will, okay? So up to this, I'll just write and bring that out, sorry. That's only a husband who passed away four months ago. He had no will. Up to this point, my sister and her late husband fought, that the probate was still going from his late mum, and we only found out that it was finalised six months before he passed away. The only paperwork... I'm stepping in for my sister, which is going to get really difficult. The only paperwork I'm able to get out of the two other siblings is from the lawyers that finalised the estate for the mum. So I've been asking for the assets and statements for the probate, but there's no success. I'm just wondering what your advice would be.
01:12:09
Speaker 27: Yeah, that's a horrible situation for your sister to be in, Phil, especially seeing that she's now not doing that to support her husband, but because he's passed away.
01:12:19
Speaker 26: I think the first thing I want to.
01:12:22
Speaker 27: Know is that an executor has a duty to account to beneficiaries. If you're putting a request in to them for information, obviously a statement of assets and liabilities is your very basic information on an estate.
01:12:34
Speaker 26: They're legally obliged to give that to you.
01:12:36
Speaker 27: And the fact that they're not raises major red flags for me. So your sister, I assume that now that her husband passed, she's probably his executor or the person entitled to be. And so she stands in his shoes and is entitled to collect that information on his behalf.
01:12:55
Speaker 12: He was married before he married Jackie. So there's two kids involved as well. And I'll sort of, Try to make it as clear and as much clarity as I can. So I've reached out to the two kids and said, look, you're going to be entitled to something. What that is, I don't know. But, you know, we're more than willing to go down the correct process.
01:13:16
Speaker 27: Yeah, and I think especially if there's other potential beneficiaries being those children, There's, in fact, probably a positive obligation for something to happen there. So, Phil, what I would suggest is either you or your sister give us a call off air and then I can have a bit more of a chat to you about the specific circumstances because I think it definitely warrants someone looking into it a bit further to make sure that your sister's husband does get the entitlement.
01:13:41
Speaker 26: Due to him.
01:13:42
Speaker 2: Yeah.
01:13:43
Speaker 12: The biggest problem we have is the finance side of it. So I'm more than happy to step in as much as I can from a finance point of view. But from my sister's point of view, she's renting and really isn't in a financial position to follow it through.
01:14:00
Speaker 27: Yeah, I can understand that's a big deterrent for a lot of people. So the key thing I think I stress to everyone is at Johnston Withers, we would have a chat to you about what work is involved and what we expect the fees to be before we start any work. If you're not happy with the fees, then you don't obviously need to proceed. But we will be very upfront with any costs involved. So I'll have a chat to you off air and we can talk through what options are available, okay?
01:14:26
Speaker 5: Okay.
01:14:26
Speaker 1: Thank you very much.
01:14:27
Speaker 17: No worries.
01:14:27
Speaker 15: Thanks.
01:14:28
Speaker 4: Good morning, Phil.
01:14:28
Speaker 1: Thanks for your call. 8223 0000 is the number to ring if you have a legal question. Back with more shortly. 5AA Mornings with Graeme Goodings. And we're on air for Johnston Withers Lawyers. Your questions are welcome on 8223 0000 is the number. Robin and Caitlin are in the studio to answer the very questions while we're waiting on call. Steve says, if I have a biological child I have only met once, my name is not on the birth certificate, does she have a right to my estate after my death?
01:14:59
Speaker 26: Potentially, yes. So I've actually been involved in a few of these cases.
01:15:04
Speaker 27: Clearly, if you were recorded on the death certificate, then under the Birth, Deaths and Marriages Act, By acknowledging that at the time of the birth, then you are the father and she's legally entitled to make a claim in your estate. Because there isn't that evidence of your name being on her birth certificate, she would need further evidence to support that, I guess, that relationship. And that's usually done in form of DNA testing. So we've had some very sad cases where we've actually had to extract DNA from a deceased person to identify next of kin. In fact, in one case that I was involved in, the deceased passed away quite some time ago and it was fortunate that the coroner's court retained some evidence that we were able to use for that DNA testing because the other alternative was to exhume a body, which obviously no one wants to do.
01:16:04
Speaker 1: Does that happen though?
01:16:05
Speaker 26: It does happen, yeah.
01:16:07
Speaker 27: So, I mean, to answer that question, inquiry is yes that they are entitled to bring a claim on your estate um under the changes to the succession act that came into a force um january last year the court now has to have primary consideration to what the test date or your wishes are so if for example you don't want to make provision for her it would be really important for you to update your will and do what we call a disinheritance document explaining why you don't want to make provision for her so If you haven't done that already, that would be my strong advice to do so.
01:16:42
Speaker 1: And Macca wants to know, good morning, ladies and GG. I have a tenant who has not paid the last six water bills. Rent is up to date. States she cannot afford it. Where do I stand? Can I claim it through the bond or do I just stop paying the bill? Other utilities are in their name.
01:17:00
Speaker 27: No, I mean, you stop paying the bill, you're principally liable as a property owner for that. So your options available to you are going through SACAT to say that she's breaching the tenancy requirements. agreement that you have in place in refusing to pay for those water bills. So you would need to first of all do appropriate notices and then if that doesn't resolve the issue then you go through the tenancy board. You're not entitled to automatically make a claim on the bond for those purposes. You'll need orders from the tribunal to do so. So you will start with doing the formal notice.
01:17:35
Speaker 1: Okay, 8223 0000, if you have a question. Jack wants to know, regarding what we're talking about, what happens if the body was cremated, re-DNA?
01:17:47
Speaker 26: I've also had one of these situations.
01:17:50
Speaker 27: And what we can do is DNA testing is quite advanced these days, so that we look for the next akin. So depending on whether the deceased was female or male, then we can go to their parents if they're around. And if the deceased, this is off the top of my head, there is best evidence rules, but if the deceased was male, I think biologically it was better to extract DNA from their father and opposite if it's female to mother. And then if they don't exist, then you go to siblings and things like that. With the DNA testing, they can actually work out percentages of probability and things like that. So, yes, having your body cremated after you passed away doesn't actually mean that you then wouldn't be able to have your DNA tested for claims.
01:18:38
Speaker 1: Okay, let's take a call. Sue, go ahead.
01:18:41
Speaker 13: Hi, I'm signing up.
01:18:43
Speaker 1: For my daughter.
01:18:44
Speaker 13: She lives on Tapish Hill Road and she has a tree in.
01:18:50
Speaker 2: Her home.
01:18:52
Speaker 13: It's lifted up her air conditioner and council, no joy. And we went to the MP and they contacted the council and they received no reply. So where does my daughter stand with her property with huge roots going straight under her air conditioner and under her house?
01:19:17
Speaker 27: Yeah, I assume from what you're saying, Sue, that the tree is situated on council land rather than.
01:19:24
Speaker 26: Yes, council. Yep. And so under... particular.
01:19:28
Speaker 27: Legislation council's liability you know for different things is quite limited if however there is um you know negligence or damage being caused they they can potentially be liable what i would suggest is um that she needs evidence to prove that that tree is causing the damage.
01:19:48
Speaker 26: So it's usually done.
01:19:50
Speaker 13: She's got photos.
01:19:50
Speaker 27: Yeah, it's usually done by way of expert report because if it goes to court, that's.
01:19:54
Speaker 26: Going to be required in any event.
01:19:56
Speaker 27: And so we usually recommend an arborist to do that report in the first instance.
01:20:02
Speaker 13: What happens if she's really not very financial?
01:20:06
Speaker 26: Yeah, I mean, that's going to.
01:20:08
Speaker 13: Arborist charged $ 2, 000.
01:20:10
Speaker 27: Well, there would be different costs for different arborists depending on what you need to do. So I'd make some inquiries there. But if you end up in court, that's going to be what's required in any event.
01:20:21
Speaker 26: So it.
01:20:23
Speaker 27: Is probably best to avoid or to try to avoid that court situation if possible, have that report and provide that to council to see if that can alter their position. But if not, it's going to be in the position where you're going to end up in the minor civil section of the magistrate's court and To get better legal advice on these issues, the Legal Services Commission does provide advice in respect to these minor civil claims. So your daughter might also want to speak with them. But my first step would be getting an arborist report confirming that that's the case.
01:20:55
Speaker 13: Okay. And you think that it can be done fairly reasonably, class-wise?
01:20:59
Speaker 5: Yes.
01:21:01
Speaker 27: I haven't particularly got a report of recent times, but I would call around a few arborists. I mean, if it's not a complicated issue, I would hope their cost would be less than $ 2, 000, like you said.
01:21:13
Speaker 1: And thanks for your call. Robyn, Caitlin, thanks for coming in today.
01:21:16
Speaker 26: Thank you.
01:21:17
Speaker 29: Thank you.
01:21:17
Speaker 1: Good to see you. When experience matters, trust Johnston Withers lawyers. With over 75 years legal experience, johnstonwithers.com.au.
01:21:26
Speaker 3: 5AA Mornings with Graeme Goodings.
01:21:29
Speaker 1: Good morning to you. Welcome to the final hour of the show. Hope you can join us in one way or another. Something to celebrate today. The National Wine Centre is 25 years of age. 25 years old. Australia's home of wine. Joining us now is General Manager Simon Burgess. Simon, good morning to you.
01:21:46
Speaker 5: Good morning, Graeme.
01:21:48
Speaker 1: And congratulations on 25 wonderful years.
01:21:50
Speaker 5: Thank you very much. We're pretty excited over here in the east end of the city.
01:21:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can well imagine it. So take us back those 25 years. How did the National Wine Centre come about?
01:22:01
Speaker 5: Oh, look, at the time, there was some talk in Victoria about a centre for the national picture of wine being on the banks of the Yarra. And thankfully for South Australia, there were enough people here that thought it should actually be located in South Australia, which really is the home of wine. And they had the drive and the impetus to actually bring it to South Australia 25 years ago. It's been an incredible journey.
01:22:28
Speaker 1: It certainly has been. And I guess the architecture, the design raised a few eyebrows way back then.
01:22:36
Speaker 5: You know, I meet with a lot of people in the centre and it's always something that people want to raise and talk about. And I think Looking at the venue as it is right now, it was launched 25 years ago, but if it was launched today, I think it would still look really contemporary, fresh and progressive. And obviously, it's shaped like a barrel, and that obviously sort of captures people's imagination.
01:22:59
Speaker 1: There's no question about that. I mean, we see South Australia as the home of wine in the country, but you represent wineries right across the nation.
01:23:10
Speaker 21: Yeah, absolutely.
01:23:11
Speaker 5: Our remit is to promote and feature and present the national wine picture. So the Australian wine story, basically. And what we find when people are coming in, we sort of explain ourselves as kind of like a city cellar door, which is a relatively unique concept. It's an opportunity for people to sort of taste wines from pretty much most of the major regions, up to 65 regions. And in our tasting room, we have 120 wines on offer at any given time, which will feature the main wine region. So it's a great place to start your journey and explore and see it as an adventure.
01:23:56
Speaker 1: Has it been a tourist attraction? Do people actually come here and want to see the National Wine Centre?
01:24:02
Speaker 5: Absolutely. We receive over 40,000 visitors per year just arriving normally from either interstate or international. Obviously the locals know us very well now. So we do drive that traction and it's with a range of tasting experiences and it's with a range of wines that we're able to offer. And that's the premise that they come in on. So, yeah, I think what we've done over the year, you know, when we set out in our inception, we just wanted to create a home for Australian wine. Now, 25 years into the journey, we've really refined what we offer and can give a taste of every major region right in the glass.
01:24:44
Speaker 1: I believe the centre features the largest working open-air cellar in the Southern Hemisphere. Tell us about that.
01:24:51
Speaker 21: Yeah, correct.
01:24:52
Speaker 5: And it's something that we've opened up now recently. We're organizing bespoke dinners, bespoke tastings down in the cellar, which are available for anybody to book. But we have a capacity for 14,000 bottles in there. And what we try to do is make sure that we're representing all the different regions and we're having a good representation of the particular varietals that are well known and you would expect to see. in an Australian cellar. And we need to sort of look at the prices as well. We need to sort of have a range of prices and make sure that it's accessible. We want to be supporting your artisans, small mom-and-pop shop wineries who maybe don't have their own cellar door. But we're also then going to have those famous names that you would expect and obviously some of those icons, and they're in our cellar reserve section. So really, we are trying to cater to all tastes and then tell a comprehensive story.
01:25:56
Speaker 1: And I guess it's important, as you mentioned, to cater for all levels because not everyone can afford the top end. A lot of people just like to drink a good average wine. So it is important that the National Wine Centre reflects this.
01:26:10
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely. And I think, you know, we do tastings every now and again where we compare the Australian wine against its counterpart from Europe or wherever it's coming from. And with the climate that we have here and the fact that we're a continent and not just a country, the Australian wine always comes up really well. It is still achievable in something like $ 20 to $ 30 bottles of wine. You can get an exceptional drop. So we're very fortunate. I'm very fortunate, particularly here in South Australia, to have so much on the doorstep.
01:26:44
Speaker 1: Most certainly. So have you found over the years that people's tastes are changing, drifting from one style of wine to another?
01:26:52
Speaker 5: You know, I've been here for 14 years. I'm originally from the UK. And when I arrived, it was very much Shiraz and Cabernet Sauvignon dominated. The big bold reds, which are a real mouthful. What we've seen is some of these alternate varieties coming through. And when we organize, we organize an event three times a year called The Drop-In. It's a Friday night, come in, 30 wineries will bring their fare together. And there's an opportunity to taste. And we focus on alternate varieties like Tempranillos, Sangioveses, Pianos. And we're seeing that there is a sort of a sway to that. Having said that, Shiraz is still one of the most popular wines in the country. So it's not saying taking anything away from that, but people are sort of broadening their horizons here. And what we're seeing now, Riesling, Chardonnay are sort of really leading the charge, and whites in particular are starting to grow as well.
01:27:48
Speaker 1: So this would be an ongoing trend that people, you know, what is popular today is not necessarily going to be so popular in five or ten years' time?
01:27:56
Speaker 5: It goes in cycles. I mean, you would know that buttery, oaky Chardonnay, and then now it's a lot more sophisticated taste, so that's come round again.
01:28:05
Speaker 19: Yeah.
01:28:06
Speaker 5: You know, what we sort of see as part of our role is to present the options for wine. So there's been some innovations in terms of packaging. And I was speaking with a winery that's had an awful lot of success with wine in cans. Now, some people, that doesn't sound like something they would want to do. But if you're going caravanning and camping, and for that particular market, they've had a lot of success there. What we're actually just looking at, and I was in a conversation yesterday with our head sommelier, and he's actually looking at low alcohol wines. There are no alcohol wines, but we're looking at low. And we wanted to present that at the center within our tasting room, feature that in our cellar, so people, if they are interested … in the lower end, and there is a move towards that aspect, then at least we've got something that we can show them. And whether we like it or not, that's not for us to say. We present what's going on in the industry and try and demystify what's going on as well, bridging that gap between the industry and being that platform then to speak to the consumer.
01:29:14
Speaker 1: What would you say to people who say, look, I'm not a wine connoisseur. I enjoy a good wine. I don't know a whole lot about it. I wouldn't go to the National Wine Centre because it would be too highbrow for me. You know, it's a level that I could not appreciate. What do you say to the person who just likes a nice drop of red or white?
01:29:31
Speaker 5: Look, it's a really good question. And the way I answer that is all you need is curiosity. Expertise is not necessary. So you can walk through our doors. We've got sommeliers in our tasting room and they can actually take you through and start a journey of what your tasting profiles are like. But I sort of liken it to art. And if you like the picture, then you like it. And if you don't, you don't. And I think wine is very much the same. There are no wrong answers. It's an incredible drink and there's an incredible variety of directions that you can go in. But I would just urge people to taste and explore. And the more you taste, the more you refine what you think that you're enjoying.
01:30:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say that, as you said, there are no wrong answers. And just because somebody likes one sort of wine, it doesn't mean to say that they don't know what they're talking about. If you like it, you like it. If you don't like it, you don't like it. It's like artwork.
01:30:28
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely.
01:30:29
Speaker 4: Yeah.
01:30:30
Speaker 1: So if someone, I mean, there are people out there that just like a drop of wine, but would like to know a little bit about it. So can they get some advice from a sommelier, sort of a short course on, you know, how to appreciate good wine?
01:30:43
Speaker 5: There are actually some courses that are run here on a regular basis, and we work with the South Australian Wine Industry Association, and that is an educational proposition. What we do within our tastings, you can book a tasting, and it can be... you can actually custom make that to what your sort of preferences are. And what we try to do is have that little bit of education, but also that experience as well. And people are looking for that. People are looking for experiences. People are also looking for occasions where they can drink wine and socialize. And we're noticing that whether it's the barbecue, whether it's a concert, or whether it's coming into the National Wine Center, having dinner and and having matched wines. It's a really dynamic product.
01:31:31
Speaker 1: Is it so that you've got some of your own vines there?
01:31:35
Speaker 5: Do you know, we're a really unique venue. There's not many venues that have the largest cellar in the southern hemisphere, a tasting room of 120 wines, and then its own vineyard. But we do. We have six red varietals, six white varietals. It's actually on-site. And we actually create our own vintage from that. And I say we. We work with the Adelaide University guys up at Wake Campus. Paul Gribben is the head wine maker. And they take the vintage and they create the Botanic Rosé. And this year, we're actually celebrating our 10th vintage of Botanic Rosé. So we're pretty excited about that. And on the 16th of October, we've got what we call Meet the Maker. And we'll be launching our anniversary Botanic Rosé. which is sort of a really crisp, refreshing drink on the palate, fruit forward with a clean, dry finish.
01:32:31
Speaker 1: Beautiful. Good on you, Simon. Congratulations on the National Wine Centre celebrating 25 years. Keep up the great work.
01:32:38
Speaker 5: Wonderful. Thanks very much.
01:32:39
Speaker 1: General Manager of the National Wine Centre, Simon Burgess. Have you been there? I mean, everyone's gone past it, and I've been there on numerous occasions for different functions. I have some wonderful function areas there. One of my sons had his 21st birthday there. So it's such a flexible venue. And if you love your wine, best place to be, the National Wine Centre. They wanted it in Victoria 25 years ago, but we beat them to the punch.
01:33:03
Speaker 3: And we'll take your calls in a moment on 8223 0000.
01:33:08
Speaker 1: The power outage that was in the city around Light Square impacting about 100 customers. Power has now been restored, I'm pleased to say. Dave, good morning.
01:33:24
Speaker 30: Hey, Graeme, how you going?
01:33:26
Speaker 4: Good, thanks.
01:33:27
Speaker 30: You had a couple of people on before, you know, with their finance dramas, and I don't recommend... Sorry, with their legal dramas, I don't recommend getting finance or going into crazy debt or things like that. But my mum was in the same position, but she knew, like, probate takes between nine and 12 months, so she knew she had X amount of money coming through. But she had these legal fees and she contacted that Saviour Finance who advertises with you, Vincent, and he was so unbelievable. The whole process, my mum could not believe it. And even after that it all happened and everything had worked out, she paid her fees. She then got her money and paid the finance out. Um, he contacted her like a month, like weeks later asking how she was going. Like he's 11 out of 10. And I didn't know, I wasn't going to go on a Google review or anything, but my mom, like, you know, if it was 15 grand or 10, I can't, don't know what the number was. They sorted her out. You obviously pay fees or whatever, but it was reasonable. And then, um, And then her money came through, sorted it out, paid all the lawyers' jobs right, life goes on. And you just use equity in your home or whatever you've got.
01:34:43
Speaker 5: It was unbelievable.
01:34:44
Speaker 3: Oh, that's good news.
01:34:45
Speaker 30: So highly recommend him.
01:34:49
Speaker 1: Good on you, Dave. Thanks for passing that on. We like to hear positive outcomes. Down to Hallett Cove. Harry, good morning.
01:34:56
Speaker 5: G'day, Graeme.
01:34:57
Speaker 7: I've got to say, with your suggestion yesterday about an audit, You know, I think we could vote for Senator Graeme Greenstein.
01:35:09
Speaker 3: No, no.
01:35:10
Speaker 31: Beyond the right honourable.
01:35:13
Speaker 5: No, no.
01:35:13
Speaker 1: I'm happy to be sitting here, Harry. I wouldn't want to be in the closeted bubble of Canberra. Thank you very much.
01:35:19
Speaker 7: You could pass the baton on to one of your adult children who should not be named but is on the news every night.
01:35:28
Speaker 1: We all know his name. He's far more interested in politics than I am, so maybe one day. You never know.
01:35:36
Speaker 7: But you know what, Graeme?
01:35:37
Speaker 5: You're right.
01:35:38
Speaker 7: There should be like a full forensic financial audit at the start of every parliament.
01:35:44
Speaker 1: Well, there is an audit, Harry, but I don't know that they're auditing the right things for the right reason. They do go through perfunctory performance of departments and the like, but I don't know that they're the forensic questions that you and I would be asking.
01:35:59
Speaker 7: Exactly, Graeme. And as an old qualified tradesman, I take a little bit of offence to not being so bright. I might not be the brightest bulb in the light shop, but I actually wanted to be an accountant. And it just turned out, Graeme, that I didn't get a job. I studied accountancy at school. So, you know, and it just happened that a trade job came along and I went for it and I got it. And, you know, I'm an old qualified tradesman. So, you know, like, hang on a minute.
01:36:33
Speaker 1: Well, I tell you what, I've learned through experience that don't sell trading short. I mean, this business, you've got to, and when I went to school and, For decades afterwards, you know, you've got to have a degree. You've got to have a degree. You've got to have letters after your name. That's absolute BS. You can put those letters after your name because some of the most successful people I know, some of the smartest people I know are tradies. They've done very well, thank you very much. And they've chosen that because they're good with their hands. They're good in other ways. Just because you're not sitting, you know, behind a computer or, you know, a boffin doesn't mean to say you're not smart.
01:37:08
Speaker 7: And, you know, as you said, Graeme, you said, you know, what planet is the 34% of the popular vote Prime Minister living on? Well, it's planet Canberra, Graeme. And you wonder why drugs are legalised in Canberra. They ought to be swabbed. They ought to be breath-tested and drug-tested before every sitting of Parliament.
01:37:27
Speaker 17: Yeah.
01:37:28
Speaker 7: Full stop, state and federal. And just one last thing, Graeme, you know, with all the people that are buying up businesses. I think it was the York Peninsula you mentioned earlier.
01:37:38
Speaker 3: Was it?
01:37:40
Speaker 7: All the foreign-born.
01:37:42
Speaker 5: People buying businesses.
01:37:43
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:37:44
Speaker 4: Which is fine.
01:37:46
Speaker 7: Yeah, Lee Kuan Yew was wrong. We're not going to be the poor white trash of Australia. The plan is, Graeme, it seems like we're going to be the poor white trash of Australia. And that's a very sad state of affairs. And the housing situation, and as far as apprenticeships go, little Johnny killed that. And now businesses can't afford to hire.
01:38:09
Speaker 5: That's if businesses are surviving.
01:38:11
Speaker 7: They can't afford to hire an apprentice.
01:38:14
Speaker 18: And not only that, Graeme, they.
01:38:15
Speaker 7: Can't jump through all the bureaucratic hoops and red tape to keep apprentices on.
01:38:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you're certainly right there, Harry. We need to get rid of a lot of that red tape because it's adding costs and time pressures. Hughie, good morning.
01:38:32
Speaker 31: Yeah, good morning, Graeme. We spoke yesterday about institutions, especially church institutions that have got businesses now. Sanitarium was mentioned, but not paying their taxes or sufficient taxes. But yesterday's news coming through late last night The ATO has just released a statement saying up to 30%, 30% of businesses did not pay, any big businesses did not pay any tax between 25 and 26 this year.
01:39:02
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:39:03
Speaker 31: Fundamentally, every other business, even double A, but it's commercially and all this integrity with the running of the station and TV stations, the corner deli, your major shops all pay their tax and the busy work and the trainees and so forth. It's not good enough, quite frankly.
01:39:21
Speaker 5: It's not good enough.
01:39:22
Speaker 31: The government needs to do a spring cleaner financially. Everyone says we're on board at the moment, worried financially, and we don't know how it's going to mind-boggle us until we go into the future. We could be stuck next decade of finances. We don't know where we're heading.
01:39:37
Speaker 1: You paint a gloomy picture, Hughie, but you're not entirely wrong. Thanks for your call. Back shortly.
01:39:42
Speaker 3: 5AA Mornings with Graeme Goodings.
01:39:45
Speaker 1: 28 to 12, 5AA, this Thursday morning. My pleasure to welcome to the studio Penny Reedy, Marketing Manager for the SA Produce Market. Pick a local, pick SA, pick SA. Penny, how are you, Penny?
01:39:58
Speaker 26: I'm good.
01:39:58
Speaker 32: Great to be in the studio. We were at the Royal Adelaide show last time we spoke.
01:40:02
Speaker 1: You were very busy. You ran off your feet.
01:40:04
Speaker 26: Have you recovered?
01:40:05
Speaker 17: Barely.
01:40:06
Speaker 32: It was a very busy nine days, but it was great. 20,000 bananas, 20,000 apples, nine days in there from 9 a.m.
01:40:14
Speaker 26: To 9 p.m. It was all good fun. Everyone loves the show.
01:40:17
Speaker 1: You mentioned bananas. Banana Day next week. I see a statistic about the number of bananas Australians eat. It is staggering.
01:40:26
Speaker 26: It absolutely is staggering.
01:40:28
Speaker 32: Yes, it's National Banana Day next week, Wednesday the October the 7th. And I think with bananas, we have them all year round. So it's hard to kind of like, we can't celebrate the start of the season or the end of the season.
01:40:39
Speaker 26: So we just.
01:40:40
Speaker 32: pick a day in the year and go, let's celebrate bananas at the moment.
01:40:43
Speaker 26: So it's next Wednesday.
01:40:45
Speaker 32: But yeah, fascinating that as Australians, we eat 5 million bananas a day.
01:40:52
Speaker 17: Wow.
01:40:52
Speaker 26: A day.
01:40:53
Speaker 32: So, I mean, I guess when you figure the population of Australia is what, in the 20 millions now, I think we are.
01:40:59
Speaker 1: 27.
01:41:00
Speaker 32: And I don't know about you, but I think I definitely contribute to that. There's not very many days that I don't eat a banana and I always have them in my house. So yeah, that's 1.8 billion bananas a year. But the interesting thing about that is unlike other countries, like if you ever travel overseas or you're in London or you're in another country, quite often they import their bananas. But in Australia, we actually grow all of the bananas here. We don't actually have to import them. So it's a very big industry here in Australia. And of course, we don't really grow bananas commercially in South Australia. I'm sure someone might call up and go, oh, I know someone that's got a banana tree and But commercially, we grow them up in Queensland. We bring them down here in a green state and then we ripen them here for you. So they're at a good ripeness when they get into the store for you.
01:41:48
Speaker 26: So, yeah.
01:41:49
Speaker 32: And an interesting fact that I thought I'd give you some fun facts about bananas for us to talk about.
01:41:54
Speaker 26: Do you know why bananas are curved, Graeme?
01:41:56
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you that question because it's unique. I mean, oranges are round, apples are round, grapes are round and different Fruits have shapes, but a curve in a banana, why?
01:42:09
Speaker 32: Yes, and you probably have seen some straight bananas before maybe. They don't often make it to retail shelves. They're normally ones that are rejected, but they actually start growing downwards and then the sun turns them upwards.
01:42:22
Speaker 14: Oh, really?
01:42:22
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:42:23
Speaker 32: So, yeah, apparently that's what gives them their familiar curved shape. And also the bananas, we often call them banana trees, but they're technically not even trees, right? So the banana plant is actually a giant herb.
01:42:36
Speaker 3: Is it?
01:42:37
Speaker 32: There's a fun fact for you. But some of them can grow up to nine metres tall. So, you know, you would look at it and think it is a tree, but it is actually a herb. And what looks like the tree trunk is actually made from really.
01:42:50
Speaker 26: Tightly packed leaf.
01:42:52
Speaker 32: So, yeah, very interesting fun facts about bananas for you.
01:42:56
Speaker 1: And there are many, many varieties.
01:42:58
Speaker 17: Yes.
01:42:58
Speaker 26: There are actually.
01:42:59
Speaker 32: In Australia, we generally eat the Cavendish, but I believe there's over 500 different varieties of bananas. There's quite a staggering number of them, a bit like, you know, but, you know, as a consumer, we just see banana. We don't kind of walk in and ask for a particular variety very often. There are the kind of the organic or, you.
01:43:18
Speaker 26: Know, the red-tipped or the green-tipped.
01:43:19
Speaker 32: There are a few different varieties, but your general stock standard is going to be a Cavendish that's grown here in Australia.
01:43:25
Speaker 17: Yeah.
01:43:25
Speaker 1: On the text line, somebody says, I have doctor's orders to eat a banana every day as I have low potassium.
01:43:31
Speaker 26: Well, there you go.
01:43:32
Speaker 32: Yes, there's some great benefits from eating bananas, plenty of health benefits. And in a country where we've got declining fruit and vegetable consumption, if we can all just grab a banana, even if it is for National Banana Day next Wednesday.
01:43:46
Speaker 26: And sometimes if you haven't had.
01:43:48
Speaker 32: One for a while, maybe you just need to try one again, and then that will put it back into your repertoire to be doing it again. So Yeah, so next Wednesday we're celebrating. We've got a couple of activations. We'll be up at Adelaide Fresh Morphavale next Wednesday from 9 to 11, Carousel at Marion at Westfield from 1 till 2.
01:44:05
Speaker 26: We've got lots of activities.
01:44:06
Speaker 32: You can use your banana to get access to a gym on the day. It's a national campaign.
01:44:11
Speaker 26: It's a gym pass campaign.
01:44:13
Speaker 32: If you buy a banana in a local store, scan your QR code, you could win $ 50.
01:44:17
Speaker 26: We've got lots of activities going on.
01:44:19
Speaker 1: So you say all our bananas pretty much come out of Queensland and northern New South Wales. Are they 12 months.
01:44:26
Speaker 3: Of the year?
01:44:26
Speaker 32: Yes, they do supply them all year round. But interesting, I have actually been talking to some of our wholesalers. Bananas are a little bit short at the moment, even though they are all year round. They are affected by weather events, particularly you can understand up in the tropics if they have excessive rains or you know, a cyclone goes through that can normally knock them out. But yeah, they do supply them all year round.
01:44:55
Speaker 1: Jim says the Irish banana company went broke because they threw out all the bent ones.
01:44:59
Speaker 26: Thank you, Jim.
01:45:02
Speaker 1: And he also says, I still have a banana sandwich with white bread and butter.
01:45:05
Speaker 32: Oh, I love banana sandwiches. I think they're a great hiking snack. You can just pack a banana, pack a bread roll, whack.
01:45:11
Speaker 26: It in the middle. Sam's giving me a funny look. But yeah, it's the ideal.
01:45:15
Speaker 1: He's got bananas.
01:45:16
Speaker 32: It's the ideal traveling or hiking snack because you don't need to refrigerate it. You can just squish the banana up in there. I actually prefer mine with butter as well. I don't know what that is, that whole butter and banana mix.
01:45:28
Speaker 26: But yeah, it's a great on-the-go hiking snack.
01:45:31
Speaker 1: All right, enough of bananas. Let's talk other fruit. What's good at the moment?
01:45:35
Speaker 32: Yes, so as you know, I always come in here to talk about what's in season. If you're buying in-season South Australian grown produce from your local fruit and veg shop, it's going to help you to keep your basket price down and with interest rates rising, we all know we need some cost savings, right?
01:45:49
Speaker 26: So I was so excited this week.
01:45:51
Speaker 32: Although the weather doesn't look like summer, we actually had a little glimpse of summer in the produce market this week with the first strawberries of.
01:45:58
Speaker 26: The season to arrive.
01:45:59
Speaker 5: Yes.
01:46:00
Speaker 26: So the first.
01:46:01
Speaker 32: Lot's been picked by the Chiravalo family, and I saw the first trays. I actually didn't get to taste one, but I did see the first tray of strawberries arrive.
01:46:08
Speaker 26: So start to look for South.
01:46:10
Speaker 32: Australian-grown strawberries in your local fruit and veg shop. You know, if people are growing them at home, they might start saying, I'd be interested to know if anyone's got any popped up at home. So commercially they've started, but I'm not sure if any backyard strawberries have started popping up yet.
01:46:25
Speaker 1: If you're a strawberry grower, let us know how they're going. Are they ready, popping out, ready for eating? I guess it's sort of like a competition if you can be the first in the neighbourhood to have your strawberries out and going.
01:46:35
Speaker 26: Absolutely.
01:46:36
Speaker 32: So these ones are grown in the Adelaide Hills. Another thing that's grown in the Adelaide Hills that's good supply at the moment is rhubarb. And coincidentally, rhubarb and strawberries go together quite well. If you're doing a crumble, you can put them in. And rhubarb's technically a vegetable, but I think we kind of think of it as a.
01:46:54
Speaker 26: Fruit, don't we?
01:46:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you would. Yes, absolutely.
01:46:57
Speaker 26: But it's a vegetable. It is a vegetable.
01:47:00
Speaker 32: It doesn't quite get the attention it deserves, so I thought I'd give it a bit of a shout-out. And just a reminder, to only eat the stalks, don't be eating the leaves of your rebuffs.
01:47:08
Speaker 1: Okay, apples are always in favour.
01:47:10
Speaker 32: They are, and I thought the Bravo apple is a really interesting apple.
01:47:14
Speaker 26: I've quite been enjoying them recently.
01:47:16
Speaker 32: They're instantly recognisable by their beautiful deep burgundy skin. So if you go in, if you've seen this deep burgundy apple sitting on the shelf and you're not quite sure what it is, it's actually called a Bravo apple, and they're really crisp and very, very sweet.
01:47:30
Speaker 26: They've got quite a distinctive flavour.
01:47:32
Speaker 32: And the Bravo was actually bred here in Australia.
01:47:36
Speaker 26: It's an Australian breed.
01:47:38
Speaker 32: It started in WA, but we do grow them exclusively up in the Adelaide Hills as well.
01:47:43
Speaker 1: And on to veggies and my favourite. Well, actually, tomatoes aren't.
01:47:47
Speaker 26: Vegetables, are they?
01:47:48
Speaker 32: I kind of mixed my fruit and veg up with it this week. I put the rhubarb into the fruit when it's technically a vegetable. And now I'm going to talk about tomatoes, which are also a fruit.
01:47:57
Speaker 1: We'll let you off the hook.
01:47:58
Speaker 26: You'll let me off the hook.
01:47:59
Speaker 32: So the Truss tomatoes, the Kapkakas family out on the northern Adelaide plains have been bringing in some beautiful Truss tomatoes into the market that have been heading out to local fruit and veg stores. So the truss ones are the ones that have still got the vine attached to them, and they've got a beautiful tomato aroma. I just love the smell of a truss tomato.
01:48:18
Speaker 26: And, you know, there's some.
01:48:10
Speaker 9: Yeah.
01:48:10
Speaker 19: Yeah.
01:48:30
Speaker 32: Slice them up on sourdough with a bit of salt and pepper and it's a great snack and cherry tomatoes as well are looking really really good at the moment um great on-the-go snack um that snacking category in fruit and veg is on the rise that is one area that we are increasing and um really good for like spring entertaining chuck them on your cheese board for a bit of color as well yeah.
01:48:53
Speaker 1: Can we get back to truss tomatoes at the moment uh for a moment um is it just for looks that they're like other tomatoes grow on plant and they pulled off the vine and so forth. Why do we sell trust tomatoes in a group?
01:49:07
Speaker 32: I mean, I guess that's the way they grow in a clump like a group like that. And so I guess it sort of makes them distinguishable if they've still got the vine on it. You know that that's a truss tomato variety as well. So you're asking me a technical growing question that I'm trying to find an answer for.
01:49:23
Speaker 1: I think I did okay. Well, I guess it saves them the time, doesn't it? If they're all growing together, I mean, you have to pick the others off because they're growing individually, aren't they?
01:49:30
Speaker 16: Yes.
01:49:30
Speaker 1: So you have to pick them off the vine. But if in the truss you can get half a dozen together.
01:49:34
Speaker 32: It saves you time. Yeah, it saves time. You can just pick up a bunch of truss tomatoes as well.
01:49:40
Speaker 1: Capsicum they come in all different shapes and sizes they.
01:49:42
Speaker 32: Do and i think we generally kind of go for the red or green so i thought i'd give a shout out to the gold capsicum there's been some really nice ones of them being grown in here in south australia recently and they're just a great way to add a little bit of color you know if you don't just want green and think you're eating green all the time pick up some gold ones great to add into your stir fries or whatever or just slice them up and dip them into some hummus is a great way to enjoy them as well Just thinly slice them and, yeah, add some colour into your plate.
01:50:10
Speaker 1: Now, capsicums, you know, different varieties that are gold and red and green. Or is a green capsicum, if you leave it long enough, it will become red?
01:50:20
Speaker 26: Yes, that's absolutely correct.
01:50:22
Speaker 32: A green capsicum does turn red or it's the other way around.
01:50:25
Speaker 26: My technical growing skills are not doing great. But yes, they are not.
01:50:29
Speaker 32: The green and the red varieties definitely, it's dependent on how long they're left on there, whether they're green or red.
01:50:35
Speaker 26: That is absolutely true.
01:50:37
Speaker 32: But I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the gold ones are a different variety.
01:50:40
Speaker 1: Something special again. We'll do our homework on that one.
01:50:43
Speaker 26: Throwing me some tricky ones today here, Graeme. You're testing me.
01:50:47
Speaker 4: Not at all.
01:50:47
Speaker 1: So just a reminder, Banana Week next week. You've got a few things happening.
01:50:51
Speaker 32: Yeah, head up to Adelaide Fresh or over to Carousel at Marion. Lots of activities. There's even an opportunity to win $ 5, 000 if you're there between 1 and 2 p.m.
01:51:00
Speaker 26: Next Wednesday.
01:51:03
Speaker 32: So head on to the Pick a Local, Pick a Safe Facebook page. We've got all the details about the events there. School holidays, bring the kids along. You could win $ 5, 000, take them on a holiday up to Queensland and escape this terrible weather that we're having.
01:51:16
Speaker 3: How good.
01:51:17
Speaker 1: And Sam, who has a really green thumb, says, when it comes to capsicums, green turns red.
01:51:22
Speaker 19: Yes.
01:51:23
Speaker 1: So there you go.
01:51:24
Speaker 22: Well done.
01:51:24
Speaker 17: Well done.
01:51:25
Speaker 1: And all the gardeners out there saying, you dopey bunch, you should know that.
01:51:30
Speaker 32: Well, I did know that they changed colour.
01:51:31
Speaker 26: I knew half of the answer.
01:51:32
Speaker 1: You knew that pretty well. I had no idea. Sam knew. Penny, lovely to have you in. We'll see you again in about a month's time.
01:51:38
Speaker 26: Sounds great. Thanks, Graeme.
01:51:41
Speaker 3: 5AA Mornings with Graeme Goodings.
01:51:43
Speaker 1: 13 to 12, 5AA. Shortly, we'll have a chat with Leith Forrest about what he's got on the show this afternoon. We'll take some of your calls in a moment on 8223 0000. Well, a short time ago, the Premier named his commissioners for the Royal Commission into Artificial Intelligence. The landmark Artificial Intelligence Royal Commission will be spearheaded by a Reserve Bank board member, former federal court judge and union leader, Ian Ross. Dr. Ross will be joined by world-renowned AI expert, Christopher Manning, a Stanford University professor, and technology industry expert Kate Pounder. This is what the Premier had to say a short time ago.
01:52:18
Speaker 16: I've had some people ask me, why a Royal Commission? Well, there's a few different answers to that. The first thing is a Royal Commission brings with it a very clear and defined set of resources in terms of a secretariat that allows the Royal Commission to do its work. The coercive powers of a Royal Commission, in our view, aren't the main drawcard here because this is not a retrospective, you know, analysis in hindsight of something that went wrong. This is a genuine effort to try and get ahead to make sure we get it right as best as we can. So it's not about the coercive powers in this instance. It's about the resources that a Royal Commission brings to make sure that the policy work and the recommendations are underpinned by evidence and policy weight. which in our view is necessary. The second thing a Royal Commission brings is it makes it crystal clear to the state that this is important and we are treating it seriously.
01:53:19
Speaker 3: Because my word, this is important.
01:53:21
Speaker 16: In fact, I submit to South Australians that there has never been a more substantial technological shift, not just in our lifetimes, but over the course of the last two centuries.
01:53:33
Speaker 1: That's the premier on why a Royal Commission into AI, uh, I would only say that if it's that important, shouldn't it be at a federal level? Because what can be binding on the state if the federal's coming over the top of it? I would have thought the federal government should be introducing a royal commission if deemed necessary. What are your thoughts? 8223 0000. Calls in a moment. On the text line, Manfred says, I pay $ 7. 20 for coffee, almond milk for my tummy. I have a bunch of blokes that gather at our home grain bakery every morning for a chat. I think it is money well spent. You can't take it with you. Good on you, Manfred. Thanks for that. And Karen says, I don't buy takeaway or have a coffee at a cafe anymore. I haven't for quite some time. It's just far too expensive. Well, it could be even going up in price. Sadly, people are paying the highest price for coffee around the nation. On average, last time, $ 6. 22 for a medium-sized coffee, which is about 30 or 40 cents more than they are paying in Victoria and New South Wales. Why is that so? Have you bought a coffee today since the abolition of credit card fees? Was your coffee cheaper or dearer? Let's know, 8223 0000. William, good morning.
01:54:44
Speaker 15: Good morning, Graeme.
01:54:45
Speaker 33: Sorry, just get out of the car. I'm not happy, Jan.
01:54:50
Speaker 1: And tell me why.
01:54:52
Speaker 10: There's a few things, first of all, you had a caller in the last half an hour that basically said that Canberra The politicians should be either one, breath-tested, and the second one is drug-tested.
01:55:06
Speaker 33: I totally agree. He couldn't have worded it any better. Second of all, I've got a mortgage. I've got an investment property.
01:55:17
Speaker 12: I'm not broke.
01:55:18
Speaker 9: I'm not rich by any means.
01:55:20
Speaker 33: But people are doing it tough here in Australia.
01:55:24
Speaker 10: And I just thought that I wanted to run this past you in case you didn't know.
01:55:29
Speaker 30: So.
01:55:31
Speaker 33: Michelle Bullock, she's.
01:55:32
Speaker 9: Sitting there saying that inflation is going through the roof and she's blaming the government for this, which I agree with 100%. So three years ago, she was on $ 1, 080, 000 per annum. I just Googled her wage. Her wage has gone up in the last three years to $ 1. 2 per annum.
01:55:57
Speaker 1: You think she's being overpaid?
01:55:59
Speaker 33: When she goes out for dinner, I'm pretty sure she's not spending 50 bucks.
01:56:03
Speaker 1: I think you're probably right.
01:56:06
Speaker 33: I strongly feel that, you know, if she's that concerned about the Australian public in regards to inflation, you know, if she came out and said, you know, I'll drop my wage to 900, I would be proud to hear that. But you'll never hear that, Graeme.
01:56:22
Speaker 1: You make an interesting point. You make an interesting point. I mean, you've got to pay the right money to get the right people. I always worry about our politicians and their pay rate. And I always say, oh, it's an independent arbiter. You know, we don't make no decision on our pay. It's an independent tribunal that rules on our pay. But, of course, who appoints that independent tribunal?
01:56:47
Speaker 4: The government.
01:56:47
Speaker 1: The politicians do. So, yeah, look, wouldn't it be a wonderful example if our very highly paid politicians said, look, We won't take the next pay rise or we'll take a 5% or 10% pay cut just to show that we are in lockstep with the population because we're asking the population to tighten their belts. Let's do it too. Do you think the pollies will do it? Nah, I don't think so.
01:57:12
Speaker 4: Bill, good morning.
01:57:13
Speaker 28: Oh, good morning, Graeme. Just to let you know, I bought a coffee this morning and $ 6. And I always pay cash, so it hasn't gone up for me yet.
01:57:22
Speaker 1: So $ 6 is what you normally pay?
01:57:24
Speaker 5: Yep.
01:57:25
Speaker 17: Yep.
01:57:26
Speaker 28: And as far as the Royal Commissions go, I think our Premier is a little bit ahead of the Feds. I mean, look how long it took Albanese to do the Royal Commission into the Bondi.
01:57:38
Speaker 3: Exactly.
01:57:39
Speaker 28: So I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for him to do anything.
01:57:43
Speaker 1: But don't you think it really should be at a federal level? I mean, you know, this is something that affects the nation and we've got a state that's having to take the lead.
01:57:52
Speaker 31: Oh, it should be federal.
01:57:54
Speaker 28: I mean, But don't wait for Albanese to do anything because, you know, Bondi. Anyway, that's what I want to say. Our Premier is the head of the Federals, but it should be Australia-wide because it affects Australia-wide.
01:58:09
Speaker 4: Exactly.
01:58:09
Speaker 28: Good on you.
01:58:09
Speaker 20: Bill.
01:58:10
Speaker 1: Thanks for your call. Ash, good morning.
01:58:12
Speaker 5: Graham, g'day.
01:58:13
Speaker 34: Kudos to you. Just want to say congratulations about the Red Legs winning. I did give you a bit of shtick about it, but well done.
01:58:20
Speaker 1: Well, it was a great game.
01:58:22
Speaker 28: It was.
01:58:22
Speaker 2: I tried to ring.
01:58:23
Speaker 34: You a week or so ago, but it just got away from me.
01:58:26
Speaker 1: It was a great grand final. No question about that.
01:58:28
Speaker 5: It was a great game.
01:58:29
Speaker 1: It was a really good game of footy. And Sturt did themselves proud, but it was the legs day.
01:58:35
Speaker 34: Yeah, and it has been for the three times now that we've played. So next year, Graeme, next year.
01:58:41
Speaker 1: There's always next year.
01:58:42
Speaker 34: I want to give a shout-out to the St George's Bakery at Castle Plaza.
01:58:47
Speaker 5: Yeah.
01:58:47
Speaker 34: Their medium coffee is $ 5. 70, and it's bigger than most largest.
01:58:52
Speaker 1: Is that right?
01:58:53
Speaker 27: $ 5.
01:58:53
Speaker 14: 70?
01:58:53
Speaker 1: Well, I tell you what, you're paying below the average because.
01:58:57
Speaker 13: Yeah, no, and it's a cracker.
01:58:58
Speaker 34: They make great coffee. They're there early in the morning from.
01:59:05
Speaker 34: Birds fart like getting ready as soon as the doors are open at Castle Bloods or whatever 7, 7.30 they're in there ready.
01:59:11
Speaker 5: To go so.
01:59:15
Speaker 34: So do yourself a favour, get down there for a cheap coffee and a good chat.
01:59:18
Speaker 5: With some good people.
01:59:19
Speaker 1: Good on you. Ash, great to have a good chat with you too. Speaking of good chats, we're going to have a good chat with Lee Forrest.
01:59:25
Speaker 4: Ash should clip that audio, send it to the business. Free coffee.
01:59:28
Speaker 1: You reckon he's locked in for life?
01:59:30
Speaker 4: That's the greatest live read I've ever heard. By the way, when is Birds Fart? Because it was always sparrows when I was a kid.
01:59:35
Speaker 1: It was sparrows.
01:59:36
Speaker 4: Is it right across the bird genre in terms.
01:59:38
Speaker 1: Of early rises? Well, I guess they all get up early, don't they?
01:59:40
Speaker 4: Very true.
01:59:41
Speaker 1: It was always sparrows where I came from.
01:59:43
Speaker 4: And quite often you didn't even have to have the second word. You would just say sparrows.
01:59:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see it. We'll meet at sparrows.
01:59:49
Speaker 4: God, got to get up at sparrows in the morning to catch the plane. All of that stuff. That's very good, Ash. We love that.
01:59:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, we do.
01:59:55
Speaker 4: Do you remember the name of your sporting team at primary or high school when it come to sports day?
02:00:03
Speaker 1: Oh, you mean like a house name?
02:00:06
Speaker 5: Yes.
02:00:07
Speaker 4: What was the sports house you were in?
02:00:08
Speaker 1: Do you remember? No.
02:00:10
Speaker 4: So there's been a shift. The colonial names are out.
02:00:14
Speaker 3: Yeah.
02:00:15
Speaker 4: Indigenous names are in.
02:00:16
Speaker 1: Okay.
02:00:17
Speaker 4: Some people aren't happy with this. So there might be an explorer, perhaps, who had a bit of a checkered past.
02:00:22
Speaker 3: Yeah.
02:00:22
Speaker 4: They're out. And now we're going with a combination of First Nations names or animal names or sports stars. So there's something like 36 Bradmans around Australia.
02:00:35
Speaker 5: Yeah.
02:00:35
Speaker 4: Which makes sense. Interestingly, my kids' school has everything from Florey and Mitchell to Lewitcher. So they go, right, great South Australians, tick it off, that becomes a sports house. When I was at school, we had all Indigenous names. This is the 80s. I was in Karawatha. We had Maripana, Tallawalla, Yallaroo, Barindar. So it's an interesting change in this day and age. Some people are saying you need to change it because it's not acceptable in 2026. And others are saying, no, stop changing history. Stop changing the past. Well, you can't rewrite history.
02:01:09
Speaker 3: No.
02:01:09
Speaker 4: And some people have a kind of affiliation with their sports team. They remember, maybe not yourself, but other people may remember and have fond memories of it.
02:01:17
Speaker 1: I don't have a checkered... Well, I have a very checkered past when it comes to school.
02:01:21
Speaker 3: Really?
02:01:22
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. Shenanigans?
02:01:24
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. I told you this.
02:01:26
Speaker 4: Clean cut news legend, Graeme Goodings, was a bit of a loose cannon at school.
02:01:31
Speaker 1: I had to be taken out of the school I went to because I was a disruptive influence.
02:01:35
Speaker 17: Really?
02:01:37
Speaker 1: No, I didn't do anything awful. I just disrupted.
02:01:39
Speaker 4: I just used to like making the class laugh and sort of having a shy act at the teacher. We might need to redo Conversations with Cornsy, get you down on the couch and get all the juicy guts.
02:01:51
Speaker 1: It makes for boring listening.
02:01:52
Speaker 4: Well, we're going to discuss that on the show. Yeah, but Sports Day is always fun. That's the best day at the school for kids who don't want to study.
02:02:00
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah.
02:02:01
Speaker 4: Run around in your house colours, all of that.
02:02:02
Speaker 1: Just to take time off from Sports Day too.
02:02:04
Speaker 4: So we'll discuss all of that on the show, and the great Lee Kernighan is going to join us too ahead of the bend this weekend.
02:02:08
Speaker 1: Oh, it should be exciting.
02:02:09
Speaker 4: Look forward to it, Lee. Good luck to one.
02:02:11
Speaker 1: Lee Forrest this afternoon after one. That's it for today. Thank you so much for your company. Back tomorrow, we'll have another go.