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Speaker 1: Good morning, Welcome to Wednesday the fifteenth, a foggy day in Adelaide town. We'll find out more about that. Believe Adelaie Airport has been shut down once again. We'll cross to the Burea to find out just how extensive that fog is. I'm just looking out over Heinmarsh Square in the last half hour or so. It is certainly closed out quite considerably. So if it is fogging, you're part of the world, let us know about it. We will like to find out just how extensive the fog is right around our city. On the show today, lots to talk about, including your calls on eight double two three double O doublow the number to ring. I'll remind you that we've got Hank Jongen from Services of Australia on later this morning. We always get lots and lots of calls, so get in early. Hank Jongen will be joining us at around ten thirty this morning, so you can ring in with questions for Hank on eight double two to three double O DOUBLEO and with tax time with us, perfect opportunity to have a chat with Hank about that well. The Albany's a government's advertising campaign for The five percent deposit scheme has faced sharp criticism from political opponents over multi lingual ads in Mandarin and Arabic targeting prospective key clients.
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Speaker 2: At yint for Yuba, hokl Dan Jiga Adel ten four five percent Depossess Scheme Eaging Toto sun On Pie Now.
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Speaker 1: Labour insists the ads follow standard guidelines and that the scheme remains open only to Australian citizens and permanent residents. The program helps first home buyers purchase properties with just a five percent deposit backed by a federal government guarantee. The five percent deposit scheme has also drawn criticism as housing prices go backwards, meaning many new home buyers had negative equity in their new homes. The government expanded eligibility to permanent residents in twenty twenty three, a decision that drew controversy after fifty one thousand non citizens participated. The coalition has pledged to reverse this and restrict the scheme to citizens only. One nation has condemned the foreign language ads, arguing they promote the scheme too norm Australians amid Labour's high immigration policies, which it says driving up housing demand rents and inflation. Treasury's marketing spent on the scheme Helped to Buy has reached nearly seven million dollars. Meantime, Australia's housing construction is falling well short of the national Housing a CORD target. Around one hundred and seventy three thousand, five hundred homes were completed in the past twelve months. That's compared with the two hundred and forty thousand needed each year to deliver the one point two million homes by twenty twenty nine. That effectively is just seventy two percent of the required pace, leaving a short fall of about six or sixty six thousand, five hundred homes over the past year. I'd like to know your thoughts on the five percent deposit scheme. Are you happy with it being open to only Australian citizens and permanent residents? Should it be limited to only Australian residents? I like to know your thoughts on that eight double two to three double double. Oh, we'll speak with five double A political reporter from Canberra, Michael Packy, about not only that, but the government under fire on a numerous issue. They're about to announce what Anthony Alberanezi claims is the first national AI ministry anywhere in the world. Of course we have an AI ministry here in South Australia, but the Prime Minister is claiming it is a first for any nation. We'll also speak with Michael Packey about Angus Taylor saying that no coalition will be developed with one nation. Will he change his mind? Politicians have a habit of changing their minds. Will it happen on this case? Anyway? We'll speak with Michael Packy about that. As I speak and look out the window, the gloom and doom or fog is closing in on It's just how serious is it? Tom Anderson, the Bureau of Meteorology, Tom, good morning to you.
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Speaker 3: Good morning Graham.
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Speaker 1: It appears that the fog is worsening at the moment.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's if anything, it is coming in a little bit thicker. It did ease up slightly. We saw Adelaide Airport briefly, but then yeah, it's coming a bit bicker again. It is moving around a little bit, which is normally a good sign. But the only issue is it's sort of moving towards the south and it's originating north of the city. So we probably will see the foggy conditions continue through basically for the rest of the morning here.
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Speaker 1: So around about what time can we expect it to start lifting?
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Speaker 3: Would expected to start lifting by noon today. However, it's just a bit tricky now because there does seem to be a bit of cloud that's a bit higher up moving over the fog as well, so almost protecting it a little bit from the sun. We normally like to see the sun get a pretty direct light onto the fog to break it up a bit. And also the winds do seem to be picking up a little bit now, which is also good news, so hopefully it's all lifted by non good.
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Speaker 1: On your Tom, Thanks for that, Tom Anderson from the Vieerau on the fog Jetstar flight eight POH three just took off from Adelaide Airport. The fog is impacting arrivals. Several flights have been circulating, as you heard in five double A News with Cape. Just a short time ago, a Quantas flight from the Sydney to Adelaide was unable to land. It had diverted to Melbourne. Eight other planes are currently circling regional flights from Port Lincoln and Mount Gambia scheduled to leave for Adelaide have also been delayed. If you are involved in picking up or leaving Adelaide today, I would suggest you call Adelaide Airport or your airline to find out the latest information. But it is a moveable feast at the moment, because while the fog appeared to lift a little earlier, it has certainly descended and is very thick at the moment. If you live in and around the airport, give us a call, tell us just how thick the fog is. Eight double two to three double o double oh. In fact, if the fog is anywhere around your area, let's just see how widespread the fog is. But I mean it's not to be unexpected. It's not unexpected to have fog at this time of year, but for it to lift and then come back again and causing a bit of flight chaos, and no doubt that will progress right throughout the day. So even if you've got a flight around lunchtime or later, I'd suggest you call the airlines now to find out the latest information and keep in touch with the airlines and we'll keep you acquainted with what is happening if we can and when we can eight double two to three double O double oh is the number to ring back shortly five double.
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Speaker 4: A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Eighteen past nine, five double A on a foggy day in Adelaide Town. I'll tell you what. Since I've come on here, which has only been a few minutes, it's hard to see the other side of Heinmarsh Square the buildings were clearly visible. Now they are a faint outline amber. How foggy is it in your part of the world.
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Speaker 5: Yes, well, I should probably know. I'm at north Haven, but I'm at the very end of north Haven. I'm almost well lease outb next to the golf course there, and I can hardly see across the road. We often get, as you probably know, in the area, we often get sea fog. Yeah, that's right, Randy Studley deer and it just sticks around for so long. But obviously it's at the airport. It's not seafog, but now it's very odden.
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Speaker 1: Have the see of course straight good on, Yamba, thanks for bringing us up to date with that year. It's more than a sea fog this morning. It's descended from the hills and going far beyond and down into the airport change. US called from Port Agusta to say it's foggy up there too, So it's widespread around the state, no question about it. Well, yesterday President Donald Trump said the US was reinstating its blockade in the state of Hormuz, and we'll charge ships for safe passage. Less than twenty four hours later back the way, saying, the Golf States put forward a different plan, but.
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Speaker 6: We were doing it as a reimbursement.
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Speaker 7: The Gulf States are going to invest a tremendous amount of money into the United States.
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Speaker 1: And that was very satisfactory to me.
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Speaker 6: I think it's.
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Speaker 1: Actually much so. Just what is happening in the Golf joining US now is Strategic Analysis on STRADIA director Michael Schubrinch. Michael, good morning.
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Speaker 8: To you, Hey Graham, how are you good?
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Speaker 1: Thanks? What are we to make of the latest developments?
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Speaker 8: Well, I think we've just got a highly unstable US policy.
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Speaker 7: Now.
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Speaker 8: The whole reason that America was going back to war with Iran was because Iran wasn't going to now free passage through this trait of hon was but wanted the charge of fee, and so the American president said, well, we'll go back to war with them. But by the way, we're going to charge a twenty percent fee for ships to use the Straight of hon was, which, as you say, is backtracked on. But I think that the bigger point is the war is back on and it's focused on the Strait, but it's also directly affecting the physical security of the Gulf States.
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Speaker 1: And what does that do for security of world fuel supplies?
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Speaker 8: Well, it's that flow of twenty percent of the world's oil again. And meanwhile, over in the Red Sea, which is an alternative passage for some of the Saudi oil, the Hooties are in conflict now with the Saudis, and who knows they might close off that other way for Middle East energy to get out.
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Speaker 1: Can you tell us more about what the Golf States are offering that's made Trump change his mind regarding imposing at all.
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Speaker 8: Yes, well, we don't know too much. We know that there've already been a big part of the what was in the and in that was the Seafireer's ended. They were meant to be part of a big part of the three hundred billion dollar reconstruction fund for a run, So they were meant to be major providers of that money. But now this will be additional billions of investment into the US countries have been forced to do with Trump's trade war and tariffs.
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Speaker 1: Would you see this as you know, Trump doing the deal to spect that he sort of suggested a toll, knowing full well that the Golf States would come up with some alternative.
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Speaker 8: No, I don't think so. I think this is more just decision making on the run. And this the subtext here is President Trump's strong view that if the American military does anything anywhere in the world, someone else should pay them. It's a bit like you know we now have if they're going to do any international security, it's charges a pay as you go.
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Speaker 1: I mean, there's so much instability in the region. Trump's on again, off again tolls, saying Iran shouldn't impose a toll, and yet I saw some figures to suggest that the Iran toll was two million dollars a ship. The US toll would have been twenty two million dollars a ship, up to.
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Speaker 8: Thirty two for a big super tank, twenty percent of the value. So yes, he would have been charging about fifteen times what the Iranians said they were going to charge, and that's a very funny position to take. And I'm going back to war with you because you can't charge a fee for ships, but I'm going to charge a fee fifteen times as much. So I think this is confusing all the Gulf States because not only have they got remaining physical and economic damage from the war that before now, but now the strait is blocked again and they've got an extra bill to somehow appease Trump by saying they're going to invest in America. The aftermath, whenever this ends, is going to be Gulf States changing their relationship with America because of this behavior.
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Speaker 1: Because of the events in the state of Hollmus. Isn't it so that the rest of the world isn't as reliant on oil coming through that area as it was in the past before the war.
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Speaker 8: There have been there's been reduced demand for oil because the price has gone up. But the other thing that we have really noticed is energy reserves. So government stockpiles all around the world have been depleted, and we were hoping that they would be topped up again when the seafire happened, But those strategic oil stockpiles being run down means the buffer is disappearing, so the economic effect will get worse as this as the straight blockage continues.
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Speaker 1: So what do you say as the next development.
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Speaker 8: I think it's quite likely that the Americans are going to escalate further. I mean, the Iranians have already escalated away from just attacking shipping. They've attacked several Gulf states that host US military facilities. But the Americans may escalate. So Donald Trump's talking about trying to attack the deeply buried Iranian nuclear side under Pickaxe Mountain. And it's also likely that the major Iranian oily sports terminal in the Gulf, the carg Island, might be back on the menu for Trump to attack or seize.
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Speaker 1: What are we you to make of the fact that Donald Trump's always saying that they've decimated the leadership, they've decimated all the firepower of Iran, and yet Iran keeps fighting bag.
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Speaker 8: I think it's just a chronic misjudgment of Iran. When I saw the footage of the funeral events that killed Diatolicum and I you could see there was a rallying round the flag, a rallying around the country effect that it had happened from the war and a war and powers hardliners arder leaders than peacetime. So the Iranian regime is looking stronger and the country is looking more unified. It's still not a loved regime, but when your country's under attack, you tend to rally around the flag.
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Speaker 1: What impact or or what external countries like China and Russia, India saying, are they having an impact on this at all or just sitting back watching?
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Speaker 8: Well, I think Russia is in so much trouble with what Ukraine is doing to its energy sector, its oil refineries, and to its logistics and its ability to support its war in Ukraine. It's kind of preoccupied. Without that happening, the Russians would probably be trying to resupply some of the stuff the Iranian military needs. The Chinese are trying to keep very quiet. They were a major consumer of Iranian oil, but they're almost alone in still having quite large oil stockpiles that they haven't run down. And I think they're just watching America damage itself and its relationships in the Gulf.
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Speaker 1: So has any further role that can Australia play. I mean, this war looks like it could go on. You know, they're an interterminate a length of time. Is there any more that we should be doing.
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Speaker 8: I think there's very little we can do to affect decision making in Washington. I don't think even the most senior officials around Donald Trump are affecting his decision making. That idea of charging a twenty percent fee for ships would have been the president's own idea, I'm pretty sure. So I think Australia has to keep trying to insulate our economy and public from the disruption because as those government energy stockpiles run down around the world, it's going to get harder to get oil and petroleum products at a decent price. So the government's probably going to have to step in.
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Speaker 1: Michael Shubridge always great to talk, Thanks for time today, Director of Strategic Analysis Australia, on the ongoing crisis in the Middle East. While things seem to settle down, there was a peace, a settlement, a truce, it's flared again. The straight Ohill moves is up for you know, firstly, Donald Trump says, you know, the Uranians can't charge a toll. We'll take over and we'll charge a toll. But the difference in tolls the Iranians were charging two million dollars a ship. I said to Michael Tubridge, the US suggested twenty two million dollars per ship. He said for supertankers it was up to thirty two million dollars. So just a crazy state of affairs. On the state of the fog, it looks like flights are starting to land back at Adelaide Airport. CONTUS Link twelve seventy seven is currently coming into land. Other flights are breaking away from their holding patterns. It will take a while to clear the backlog, so stay with us. We'll keep informed. But if you are relying on getting out of Adelaide or picking up someone on an incoming flight, I suggest you get in touch with your airline for the latest. But it looks like it's a state of flux changing all the time. Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings twenty eight minutes to ten A. This Wednesday morning, Catherine says, morning, I'm at Myrtle Bank. It's clear here you could land a seven four seven on Fullerton Road at the moment. Well, thanks, Catherine, but I don't think we'll be diverting any seven four sevens to Fullerton Road. But thanks for the offer. Textas says, regarding the amount of oil that comes out of the Gulf, twenty percent was before the closure of the straight of Hall moves. It's downd in nine percent now. As we're talking to David Leany yesterday, he was suggesting that nations around the world have found ways around having to rely on the straight of Hall moves. And yeah, around ten or nine percent is now reliant on straight uphill moves. Jaane says, agree with only selling homes to Australian citizens and actual residents. Stop allowing people outside the country to buy horsing and those so called help schemes to get young people into homes are ridiculous. Just puts the prices up, So stop them. Thank you for that, Jane, and Helen says, morning it should be Australian citizens only. Thank you very much for that. Joining me, I was Michael Packing, five WA, Cambric correspondent. Michael, good morning to you.
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Speaker 2: Good morning Graham.
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Speaker 1: Lots to talk about. Firstly, the backlash against the government's five percent hausing deposit scheme, not so much the scheme itself, but who it's available to.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, look, and this has been an issue now for a little while and you've got the Opposition saying that if they were to win government, they would restrict it to ensure that it would be only Australian citizens that would be able to access the scheme, rather than permanent residents or non citizens, And so it is interesting. It probably does reflect the views of a lot of the people that have been calling and texting you this morning that they believe that the scheme should be reserved for Australian citizens and no one else. So the government is obviously not going down that path.
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Speaker 2: The scheme, from what I understand.
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Speaker 9: Has been relatively successful in the terms of the amount of people I've been accessing it. I think there's well over two hundred thousand people that have accessed the scheme, and from what I understand, about twenty.
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Speaker 2: Or thirty of those have defaulted.
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Speaker 9: That is that the government has to pick up the slack because these people.
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Speaker 2: Are unable to service the mortgage.
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Speaker 9: So if you know, if the Opposition were to win power, I'm sure that you would see changes to that scheme. But as things stand, the government believes it's been a success and is likely to continue with it the way it is.
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Speaker 1: We get a lot of feedback about the low level of deposits, so the equity that someone comes into a new house with with five percent, particularly in light of the fact that the government's keen to see the price of houses drop.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 9: Absolutely, and so one of the issues that started e merging merging in the last couple of weeks, especially during question time, as a result of the tax changes that the government has introduced to capital gains and negative gearing, we have started to see the prices of some proper start to fall in fairly steeply in some areas, which is why we're not seeing auction clearance rates really booming the way that they were earlier this year and maybe last year. Even though there's been a slight improvement in the auction clearance rates, they're still relatively low. And that's because people aren't willing to sell for the prices that investors are willing to offer. And so you have seen some of this reduction in prices, and to a certain extent, you are starting to see some.
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Speaker 2: People fall into what they call negative equity.
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Speaker 9: In other words, they've borrowed all this money, but the value of the property that they've bought doesn't quite match up. So some people are starting to fall into what they call negative equity. And it's mainly the people that have taken these five percent deposit schemes that are feeling the skin most of all.
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Speaker 1: I was interested to see recently that the majority of the state and are happy to see house prices full. I guess that would be those that have probably had been living in a house five, ten, twenty years. They've built up a lot of equity, so if it fell off, you know, and they lost you know, five or ten, fifteen thousand, it's not going to hurt them. It's just the new home buyers that are really going to be impacted.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 9: I mean, obviously you've got some people are that are glad that, you know, house prices are coming down because they believe it gives them a chance to get into the market.
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Speaker 2: And I suppose that's always going to be the tension.
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Speaker 9: In this issue, is that you've got some people that want house prices to fall reasonably drastically because they feel as though that will.
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Speaker 2: Help them into the market at a reasonable price.
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Speaker 9: But then you've obviously got people that are buying these homes or people that may want to sell these homes, and they feel that they're not going to get the price that they were hoping that that their property would bring. So I suppose that that's where there's always going to be the tension. But I think the other issue is going to they hear as a result of the policies that the government has introduced is that you're still, I think, going to have a supply issue because if people aren't selling because they don't believe that they're going to get the price for their property that they want, well, then that's going to create continue to create the supply shortage.
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Speaker 2: And then even where there's.
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Speaker 9: Houses available, maybe that they're available in areas where people can't easily get to work. You know, they're may be too far out of town and it's going to cost them so much to get to work that they think, well, it's not even worth our while buying a house in certain areas because you know, maybe the infrastructure still isn't there to be able to get people if they're working in the city, let's say, for argument's sake. So there are all these issues that do need to that do need to resolve themselves, but you know, the government is obviously hoping that that will happen.
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Speaker 2: There is a lot of development.
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Speaker 9: Wherever you go, there seems to be you know, blocks of units are popping up everywhere. So for some people, if they can get into that market, you know, they want those prices to fall. They want to be able to get into the market at a reasonable price. But then for others, they're obviously not willing to sell if they do believe that when they sell, they're not going to get the price that they want. So it creates that demand and supply.
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Speaker 1: Tension in Canberra itself, I believe. Well I don't know if it's in Canberra, but Anthony Albineasy is about to make an announcement today claiming a world first.
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Speaker 10: Yeah.
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Speaker 9: Look, essentially the announcement is on artificial intelligence. He's actually doing it at the University of Sydney in a couple of hours time he's making this speech. There's and essentially what he's going to say is that he wants to create an Office of AI and this Office of AI is going to sit within his own department, so that's the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet. And essentially what you're seeing here is that his department is start going to take some sort of control for the rollout of AI in Australia in the and take a bit more control for the policy settings and strategy of you know, rolling out AI. In the sense that this technology is rolling out at a rate of knots, more and more people are being told to use it. There's obviously some concerns that are starting to develop around it. There's people that are worried about their jobs and that that AI is going to take their jobs. There's also this issue of data centers. That data centers are popping up, you know, every everywhere, and a lot of people, you know, especially in some suburbs, believe that they've got no control over where these data centers are popping up because these data centers, what we are starting to find out, are heavy users of water. So you know, they do use a lot of water and a lot of energy. So one thing that I do know that the government is trying to push out is that they're saying that if you're a company that wants to build a data center, they want you to make sure that you know, you've got enough energy within that data center to be able to power itself, so you're not relying as much on the electricity greed. So you know, there is some talk that some of these data centers should be powered by small nuclear power plants module and nuclear power plants to power the data center rather than relying on the electricity.
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Speaker 2: Greed, which could put more.
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Speaker 9: Pressure on the electricity geed greed and you know, affects suburbs where these data centers are actually being built.
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Speaker 2: So there is this issue of data centers, this issue.
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Speaker 9: Of jobs, and I think that the Prime Minister has said, well, the issue is starting.
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Speaker 2: I suppose. I don't know if he's saying.
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Speaker 9: As much that the issue is getting out of hand, but he clearly wants a lot more control over the rollout of AI in Australia.
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Speaker 1: It might be a world first on the national level, but our Premier Peter malinask is it's literally twelve months ago, it's almost to the day that he introduced a Ministry of AI effectively and he is proudly boasting that he's trying to attract data centers to South Australia. Well, you're fully aware that a Southast data is you know what, the driest continent, and southa Stata is just about the driest state in Australia, and water is always at a premium. I mean, we suck so much water out of the Mudray for drinking water in this state, so it comes at a premium. We don't want to be pumping it into data centers. So and of course electricity is also in question two. So not only on a state national level, it's something that we all should be concerned about.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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Speaker 9: And the interesting thing about all of this, Graham, is that at the moment, believe it or not, the economy is essentially chugging along based on the building of these data centers. That's what's really keeping the economy afloat, which I think you can be quite dangerous that when you're relying on one industry or one sector to essentially bepowering the majority of your economy. You know, in terms of all these data centers, as you say in South Australia, and it's happening all over the country. But it's essentially the building and the construction works of these data centers that's essentially keeping the Australian economy bubbling along and keeping economic growth at a relatively stable rate. And while you know, some people will say, well that's good, the bottom line is there is also a danger to that, because when you're relying on one sector of the entire economy to really be driving overall economic growth, you know, you know, you've got some problems because your economy, the economic engine, i would argue, needs to potentially be data centers, and a whole bunch of other areas of the economy need to be chugging along as well to make sure that you've got, you.
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Speaker 2: Know, that that growth is spread out.
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Speaker 9: And as you quite rightly say, in South Australia, there are these issues of maintaining these data centers, especially given the amount of water that they use.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. On another subject, the ardor and love of one Nation seems to have cooled somewhat and now he is that Angus Taylor has ruled out and he thought of it coalition with one Nation.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, And look, I think that Angus Taylor has been coming under a little bit of pressure to say, you know, will you or won't you do some sort of deal with one Nation in the lead up to the next election. And the problem is with the Liberals, this is their issue.
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Speaker 2: You've got some.
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Speaker 9: Liberals and especially in South Australia, you've got people like.
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Speaker 2: The Tony Passen and Alexandtisch. You know, two Liberals, a Liberal senator and a Liberal.
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Speaker 9: MP in SA that believe that the Coalition or the Liberal Party should not rule out doing some sort of deal with one nation in.
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Speaker 2: The lead up to the next election.
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Speaker 9: The thing, You've got a whole other people within the Liberal Party, most notably Andrew Hasty in Western Australia, who believes that would be a mistake doing some sort of deal with one nation. So, you know, I suppose Angus Taylor's caught up in this pincer movement within his own party as to what to do about one nation. In the end, one nation is sucking those Liberal Party votes, you know, even though it's you know, even though one Nation seen a bit of slippage in its overall vote, it's still holding up.
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Speaker 2: It's still the second most popular.
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Speaker 9: Party in Australia after Labor, and it's pretty much Labor one nation and then the Coalition. So the Coalition, yes, it's making up some ground, but not enough. It needs to start really, you know, moving ahead at one nation and be at least the second most popular political party in the country. And so there are some there is this division within the Liberal Party. Some people are saying, yes, we need to be closer to one nation because essentially they stand for similar things that the Liberal Party stand for, and others are saying, no, we shouldn't be closer to the one nation because you know, they believe some of their policies would send the country broke. So Angus Taylor, he seems to be distancing himself.
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Speaker 2: He seems to be.
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Speaker 9: Saying, look, the Liberal Party and the Coalition more broadly needs to win an election in its own right, and that should be an election one with the Liberals and the National Party as its partner, and then you know, one nation. They may you know, see where they sit, but they don't want to maintain any sort of formal coalition with one nation. The Liberal Party still wants to be a party that stands on its own two feet as part of a coalition with the Nationals, but not with one nation in that grouping.
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Speaker 1: Is Angus Taylor making any headway with these leadership, Look.
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Speaker 9: It's incremental, that's what I would argue. I mean, yes, the last couple of opinion polls that have been released are showing that Angus Taylor, you know, is slowly getting the coalition vote back up. But it's still a long way from Labor and still lags one nation. So I think that unless you know Angus Taylor really, you know, drives home what the party stands for and what the party would do differently if it were to win the.
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Speaker 2: Next election, he's going to struggle.
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Speaker 9: Yes, he is making in roads, but they're so incremental, and I don't know that the Liberal Party has really got that much time to waste, given that an election is eighteen months maybe two years away at most. And I believe, and I think you and I have spoken about this before, Graham, I definitely believe that Labor will win the next election. It may lose some seats at a federal level, but Labor I think, will still be the government at the next election. But you know, the Liberals need to make some serious inroads and actually, you know, start snatching some seats from Labor to make any difference, you know, down the track. Otherwise, you know, it's it's just not going to go anywhere for them unless they really make some inroads and start snatching some seats from the Labor Party. And at the moment it's looking like One Nation could snatch those seats from the Labor Party.
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Speaker 1: Certainly in time is running out for them. Always great to chat Michael. Thanks for your time today, no problems.
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Speaker 2: Good on you, Graham.
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Speaker 1: Michael packing Fiveba's can But correspondent on the comings and goings and doings and throwings of the Canbra bubble. Richard says Angus Taylor and the Liberals need to start thinking of Australians and not themselves and work with one nation to get rid of Albanizi and his government. Thank you for that, Richard. And how are things at Cape Jervis A fog update? We can now see the hills from Heinmarsh Square. Yep, we can too. My producer Sam told me that because I'm literally sitting with my back to the window, but I have looked around and I can see the hills. So that is a breakthrough. Flights in our landing at Adelaide Airport, but you still need to check with your airline for any residual delays. So even though flights might be coming and going, there is a backlog and that will take some time to lift.
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Speaker 4: Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: What's happening on the stock market? Your odds is up by fifty nine points a Ssex two hundred similar up by fifty eight points, the dar Jones end of the day up by nine, Nasdaq up by two hundred and thirty three points. As for oil, Brent crude up again to eighty four point seven US dollars a barrel, West Texas crewed seventy nine point eight, and gold going for four fifty three US dollars and ounce. The Aussie dollar training at sixty nine point seven US Since Peter, good morning, Good.
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Speaker 8: Morning grim you.
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Speaker 11: I'm just wondering if the clouds lifted out of Canberra.
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Speaker 1: It's always foggy in canbra foggy minds anyway, it is.
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Speaker 11: No, I've just been looking considering we've got to get rid of Alberdies. He's causing so much problem and it will be road for no return. What we need policy to in Australia to what's good for the country first and what's good for the people.
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Speaker 1: Now tell me, Peter, are you a rusted on liberal or you know one nation voter or what's your history with voting giving.
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Speaker 11: I'm giving what called pulling hands a bit of leeway there, but you know, you take Albanezia. I mean I can't, but you know, I can't work out where he's going and he doesn't even know himself. He's talking about it, talking about, oh, we need to buy Australian goods, we need to do this, do that by a local stuff. But the companies are going bad. There's no instead the build, to expand, to take a risk, none of that. That's all out the window.
00:34:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I saw it was it today. Thirty businesses are going bus today in Australia.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, are the start of it. But so you know, he wants everybody to sport local businesses, but they're disappearing very very fast.
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Speaker 1: There it is. I mean, I think we'd all like to support local businesses, but it gets down to you know, you've got only got so many dollars in your pocket, and if the local product is way more expensive than something from overseas, you know, you've got to think of food on the table. Something's got to give. And unfortunately Australian businesses are being priced out of the market, largely because of high costs, and a lot of that is to do with power. I mean, power prices in this country are absolutely outrageous.
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Speaker 11: Well it's one of these there should be good led by the government.
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Speaker 1: Peter, good on your thanks for your call eight double two to three double o double. If you agree with Peter or disagree, I'd like to know your point of view and have you changed your thoughts? Interesting and we touched on it with Michael Packy. Support for Pauline Hansen has cooled a little, not a lot. She still has a lot of support. One nation has a lot of support. Do you think she's done herself some harm of late with some of her decisions aligning herself with that radical in the UK and some of the things that she said, and after her National Press Club conference it would appear that her support for her is diminished a little. So do you still support Pauline Hansen if you supported her in the past or would you vote for her if the election were to be held tomorrow?
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Speaker 12: Edwin, good morning, Good morning.
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Speaker 13: Look, I must make comment about the the AIS and about what you said. I believe that though the waters will all go up in you don't have that much water, but they will even even he at a data centers will have it have their days because they will eventually have to run out of water too, because they won't be any for them either. And then there will just be all these starta centers and I won't be able to useless and they'll be all over So that'll be always the bunny. Well a waste of time to be pretty bad idea.
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Speaker 1: Well, this state, our premier is a gung ho on getting data centers, attracting them here. But I mean and he says it will support our grid and prop it up. But the point is data centers need power one hundred percent of the time. There's no downtime for a data center. There can't be. So what what happens if we have a drain on our power. The sun isn't shining, the wind isn't blowing. What's going to We're going to have brown arts in the suburbs to keep these data centers going. It worries work, and obviously it worries you to edwin.
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Speaker 13: Like I say, I believe that eventually the water run up. I want to be able to stick fool and then water well brid the buddy app and then it will be in with data centers can all be useless, will be all just all out of the place and won't be work. Do won't be work?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, it's interesting that in the US and as Michael Packey alluded to that when a lot of these major data centers bring their own power supply, and in the US I think it's Amazon and Microsoft setting up huge data centers with or attached to small nuclear reactors. Well, that ain't going to happen in Australia because nuclear is a four letter word in this country, so it will not be happening. So where will the data centers draw on their power? Where will the power come from? And it's going to be the fact that gas will supply the power when the sun isn't shining and the windows are blowing and the batteries have run flat, So it will be gas. And gas is hugely expensive. So who is going to end up paying for all this? It's something that we all should be concerned about and it's questions that really need to be answered. And hopefully with this AI office set up in the Office of the Prime Minister, they will focus on things like that, not the fact that let's just attract these big businesses here and scoop up a little bit of money. The costs that we'll get in building the data centers, providing work and generating revenue. Then, of course all the revenue will head off shore anyway. Jeff says if the Coalition truly want to do the best for Australia, then they should be giving preference to one nation, not fight them, because out of the parties they are most aligned to several policies. Not preferencing them would be political and show they are lying about doing what's best for Australia. Yeah, that's a fair point, Tony says Morning Graham. Not sure why the media keeps pressing on the Libs to step up to win next election. The question should be asked is if we can afford another term of a socialist labor government where small medium businesses and the average Australian living standards are collapsing. Certainly they're the questions that we need to be asking. Data centers, what a nice way to pay off a trillion dollar debt? Another fairy tale. We need to do a lot more research and examining into the feasibility of data centers. While on the surface it might seem to be you know, the cream on the top, we can make a lot of money out of them. We have to provide huge amounts of power and massive amounts of water. Some two ingredients that Australia doesn't have a copious quantity of. What are your thoughts? Eight double two three double double. We got to take a break for news. Then after that would you pay a subscription to get discounts. We're going to chat with Andrew Cozzy Costello about his Cozy's Friends with Benefits.
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Speaker 4: Five double A Mornings with Gram Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Well TV personality Andrew Cosey Costello is launching of Friends with Benefits program for what he says is to simultaneously support locals and small businesses doing it tough. Cozy joins us. Now, Cozy, good morning to you, Ah.
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Speaker 14: The good man, nothing short of an absolute honor mate. Good to chat.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, tell us about this Friends with Benefits program.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 14: Well, since I started the media like twenty five years ago, I come off the pig farm and started working for at originally Fairs AFM and then onto South I with Cozy, I've always loved the fact that when you are in the media, you're able to do stuff, as you know, for your community, for your followers and for your listeners and stuff like that. So I've always really really enjoyed that and in the last few years, obviously his cost of living has got tougher at.
00:40:55
Speaker 12: Our social media community has grown.
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Speaker 14: I thought, how can I connect businesses in South Australia with a following, which you know online is now about seven hundred and fifty thousand people across the social So I sort of thought of this idea where if I could kind of take some of my followers and turn them into like a membership program where they could get amazing deals into cafes, restaurants, pubs and stuff all across South Australia, that it would be a real goer. And the cool thing is that the businesses don't pay anything for this, so it gives businesses the opportunity to get new customers into their doors, especially at a time when hospitality is under the pump with.
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Speaker 12: Cost of living pressure.
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Speaker 14: So yeah, that's how it all started, and it's taken us two years and last.
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Speaker 12: Night we launched it.
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Speaker 1: So just how does it work?
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Speaker 14: So pretty much, people pay ten bucks a month and they get access to over one hundred deals that are online that can go and get a buy one free STINZLA or a free pint of beer, whatever it might be. Then we have weekly hot office and this is where it actually gets really cool, Like some of those are insane. Like Sunday, we're launching two and a half thousand, two and a half thousand movie tickets for four ninety That's the cheapest in Australia. And it means that a family of four can take their kids to Toy Story for under twenty bucks. Now that's simply unheard of. And these are the things that really excite me. The following week we've got six hundred people be going along out for dinner at the Pancake Kitchen or you can eat pancakes for five bucks. Ahead we're doing Australia's biggest metrey. I've got a six hundred kilo anger steer out at the feed lot at my farm up in the Hills which we're going to get processed and get distributed to our members and stuff. So it really is endless and it's really exciting. I've got a trip for Cambodia with the Crows players to give away next month as well, so it's going to be wild.
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Speaker 1: So how many people would you expect to sign up?
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Speaker 12: Well, mate, we've been blown away initially.
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Speaker 14: I just want to cap it though, like I don't want to have too many people that I can't service them appropriately. So we've got over one hundred businesses that are online as far as deals, so that'll all roll out from next Friday. So it goes live next Friday, and we've already had obviously thousands of people sign up.
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Speaker 12: Like it's blown us away.
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Speaker 14: Like it's been really really successful, I think because people understand that cost of living is just really really hurting households.
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Speaker 12: Now, this is only ten bucks a month.
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Speaker 14: If you sign up for an annual membership, it's only it works out to be six dollars fifty a month or something, so compared to other membership programs in Australia and around the world, it's extremely affordable. And the cool thing is anyone that signs up also gets a twenty dollars Drake's voucher. So we've got two hundred thousand dollars of Drake's vouchers you know, that are wrapped up in this program. That's like, you know, two hundred grand that people are going to be able to walk into Drakes and take off their grocery bill.
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Speaker 12: So we're really excited about things like that. It's now it's huge.
00:43:37
Speaker 1: So ten dollars subscription for your month. Who gets that.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, we're going to use it.
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Speaker 14: Obviously you can't do it for free because you've got to fund it with staff and there's back end of nineteen night sort of stuff. But basically we're using the membership's money as like buying power. So essentially, I'm going to have a group of South Australians and I don't care what size it is, whether it's one thousand, ten thousand or blood one hundred thousand doesn't bother me. I'll be repped resenting them, using their cash to get them the best deals. Like the average Joe can't just walk in off the street and get movie tickets for four ninety nine unless you're buying in bulk, and that's exactly what we'll be doing. So I will be basically representing our members and using their membership money to offset deals and get them the best deals. Like we're going to start with one hundred holidays down to Malang and the flu Openinsula there for forty nine dollars like that. You just it's insanely cheap. So that's where all the membership money goes. And it's really funny, you know, Like I was reading on Facebook last night. Ye, some people are outraged because there's a cost associated with this. Well, there's a cost associated to do this. You just can't do it for free. So we say to everyone you know, jump on board if you want, or sit on the sidelines and have a sticky beak for a few months and see how it rolls out, because there's nothing like this in South Australia or Australia, and we are going to be servicing the people that sign up in a way that people can't even get their heads around. Like I couldn't be more excited about the potential for this projects. It's absolutely awesome and what it means to small business in South Australia is just incredible.
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Speaker 1: It would be fair to say, though, causey I saw your Facebook site that the overwhelming reaction has been negative.
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Speaker 4: Nah.
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Speaker 14: Mate, The amount of people we've had sign up has been amazing, but of course it's been negativity. Gray, And you've been in the media longer than I have, and you know that anytime someone has a cracket doing something new, it doesn't matter what you do, people will always complain.
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Speaker 12: If McDonald's got to sign.
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Speaker 14: Out the front telling you that they're selling a happy meal, for six bucks. You know, you choose to drive in and get it, or if you don't want to pay for it, then just drive past. Like I say to everyone, you know how the go. But you've also got to remember, for twenty five years here in South Australia, I've been doing everything you know for free, Like we give away millions of dollars of staff and we do heaps for the community and all that sort of stuff which we love. And the bigger we get as a brand South I was because the more we've given away. So there's a direct correlation if you turn the clock back twenty five years ago as to what I was able to do to the community what I'm able to do now. So this is only going to magnify it. So it's as simple as if you don't want to join it, don't join it. But I give you my word that if you're a part of this, then I will bust my clacker to get you the best deals that you're ever going to see anywhere in South Australia. And that's what's going to be happening as of you know, next week when we launch it on Friday, Like people will see so I said last night on a Facebook posts. It's a bit like old Colonel Light when he first designed the plans for Adelaide. You know, everyone was up in arms and he said, you know, stick with me, let me, let me show you my design, and then you know, in the end, of course we end up one the most beautiful cities in the world. So yeah, I don't mind the negativity gram. We're in the media, we kind of get that.
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Speaker 1: Nathan on the text line says, can you ask Cosey if this scheme is very similar to the entertainment book?
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Speaker 12: Oh look at you? How good was the entertainment book back in the day?
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Speaker 14: Remember ripping out the vouchers and going in and going to buy one, get one free.
00:46:51
Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 14: Look, there's a part of it that is, I guess like that. You know, we've got over one hundred deals available to do exactly that. You know, you buy one, get one free coffee or whatever it might be. So part of them is that. The second part of the program is hot offers, like I mentioned to you there, you know, like it it's things like the you know, we're taking six hundred people to a winery for lunch for five bucks each. So these are weekly offers that will come out that people will be able to access things like we've got a wine that retails recommend a retail price at four fifty for a dozen, like our members will be able to access it delivered to your door for ninety nine bucks. Like these are huge, huge savings, and those are going to be weekly deals. And the third element is competitions. There's like from next Friday when it goes live, there's already ten or a dozen competitions up there, including like I mentioned, a trip to Cambodi with the Crows players, you know, st at Monado Resort and all those kind of things as well. So there's basically those three elements that will encompass the whole program. And you know, like two years of work for our team has gone into this and when people talk about the cost, the reality is unless there was some sort of membership fee, then this program doesn't exist. What I'm saying to the South Australians is, if you've loved what I've done in the last twenty five years in this state, watch it from afar and see how it looks in a couple of months, or jump on board and get stuck into it. And the other thing is you know, everyone that signs up gets a twenty dollars Drake's out here anyway, so you know it's yeah, it's going to be a riff of mate.
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Speaker 1: Now, just before you go, Couzi. Back in twenty twenty two, you received a grant from the Essay Tourism Commission was worth more than four hundred thousand dollars. It was to construct two luxury lodges on your farm and woodside. How popular has that been?
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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's been great. So I've put it this way.
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Speaker 14: It's been a buddy journey like setting anything up like that's been insane. But yeah, it's it's been good, but it's you know, it's been challenging as well.
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Speaker 1: Can people book to stay there? How do they go about that?
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Speaker 12: Yeah?
00:48:38
Speaker 14: You can just do it through the website and you can go on there and google Harrigate Lane and check it out.
00:48:42
Speaker 1: Good on your cozie Cozzy Costello with his Friends with Benefit scheme. What do you think? Will you sign up? Have you signed up already? What are your thoughts about it?
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Speaker 4: Eight?
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Speaker 1: Double two three double O double is my number?
00:48:53
Speaker 4: Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Ten thirty one five Double A This Wednesday, fifteenth day of Liars. The fog is lifting, the sun is shining. Turned out to be a beautiful morning. Still a mite chilly out there, about eleven degrees at the moment, but it is warming up and later in the week it's going to be around the eighteen mark, which for this time of year is probably pretty pretty good. Joining us now is Hank Jongan from Services Australia. Hank, good morning to you.
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Speaker 6: Good morning. I'm just listening to your weather with envy. Ah, why is that what you's freezing over here?
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Speaker 1: Well, it's not all that warm, I can tell you, Hank, But every degree makes a difference, doesn't it at this time of year.
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Speaker 6: Yeah. Well, look I was lying in bed this morning and it was only because I knew I had to talk to you that I got out of bed.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be nice to stay in this time of year, an extra a few minutes in bed. Look, Hank, it's always great to have you with us, Probably more even more pertinent at this time of year, because tax time is with us and that creates all sorts of issues for a lot of people. You have some advice for.
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Speaker 6: Us, Yeah, Look, I certainly because many people don't realize that most of the payments that are made by said link are actually taxable income. Now, let me start by saying, because I don't want to unnecessarily alarm people, but if you are on the maximum rate of age pension and you have no other income or income from assets, then you do not need to lodge a tax return. And let me just make that crystal clear, because you're below the threshold. But for others, the first thing you need to do is to work out if you need to lodge a tax return and to get the answer to that. The best place to go is my Gov. And once you at my GUV, search tax time and then answer a few simple questions and it'll give you an indication as to whether or not you need to lodge a tax return and what those next steps are.
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Speaker 1: So you say, just before we go ahead, you'd need a my Gov account, you need to sign up to my gup.
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Speaker 6: You can actually just go into my GUD. I don't necessarily because you just need to go into the website and look for tax time and you'll be able to follow those steps. But my recommendation always, for a number of reasons, my recommendation always is to create a my gov account and link to government services that you use, whether that's Medicare Center link or impact the tax office, because it's just another protection in the area of ensuring that you don't get scammed. But look, the other big tip in relation to tax is if you can afford to wait until late July to lodge a tax return. And the reason I say that is because it's at that point when the tax office will prefill your tax return and they draw on information from employers, bank interests. But in addition to that, centraling payment information is automatically added as well if it's taxable, And what that means is you don't need to check. You just need to make sure that everything is there because the numbers will be correct and you can then simply lodge a tax return. Look, one of the things we know is that people that lodge their tax returns early in July last financial year, about one hundred and forty two thousand people had to go back to amend their original returns because they've left out things or incorrectly transposed numbers. So if you can afford to wait till late July, it makes it simpler.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people think, oh, I get in as quickly as I can, but as you've suggested, not all the information might be there.
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Speaker 6: Exactly, and then you know you've got to go back redo it, and you know it just it just makes life a lot easier.
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Speaker 1: If you have a question for Hank Johnn on social security Social services eight double two three double o double is the time to ring get in early because as we always find out that towards the end of the half hour, the loan lines are overburdened and we just don't get through all the calls. So as tax time are particularly busy year for your time of year for.
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Speaker 6: You, Hank, Oh, look it is. You know, we've been talking about this issue, which is people needing to lodge tax returns. But of course there's also another process that goes on for people that are receiving our family payments like family tax benefit or childcare subsidy, because this is when we do what's called balancing, where we check the income estimates that you've provided us over the course of the financial year against your actual income. In other words, we check what you've information you've provided us against your tax return to determine whether you've been correctly paid. Those two payments and so that is also a very busy time of year in terms of processing all that work. And look, again, it's really important to remember that those income estimates are crucial in ensuring that you don't get overpaid. So what I always suggest is, particularly if you're doing casual work and your hours vary, update your income estimate on a fortnightly basis so that you can avoid being overpaid. Look, one strategy that other people do, I'm not recommending it, but I'm just conscious of the fact many people do it is slightly overestimate your income because that way it ensoys you don't incur an overpayment and it'll all be refunded to you at the end of the financial year.
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Speaker 1: I think if you do overpay, underpay make the mistake. Are people given time to make the payments back?
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Speaker 4: Oh?
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Speaker 6: Look absolutely with all centling payments. If you are overpaid, then we will negotiate with you reasonable repayment arrangements. And when I say reasonable, I mean that because of course, the last thing we want to do is create further hardship by forcing you to make significant repayments on any debt that you've incurred. So again, remember, if you receive a letter from US saying you've been overpaid. You know, the first step is that we will ask for a full refund, but if you're not able to do that, the letter will clearly outline how to contact us and you can negotiate with us for suitable repayment arrangements.
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Speaker 1: If you have a question for Services or Stralia General Manager Hank John and now's the time, ring eight double two three double From the text line Mark says, is the disability support pension for a single person paid in full no supplementary income above or below? What defines the poverty line?
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Speaker 6: Thanks as Mark, Look, I can't answer that question because it's been a while since I've checked to see what the poverty line is. I do know that generally all our payments are above the poverty line. There've been actions by the government over the past couple of years to ensure a range of increases to make sure that is the case. I don't have the figures, unfortunately in front of me. But because that's quite a different issue to the discussion we're having, which is about tax and tax thresholds.
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Speaker 1: Let's take a call Jason, good morning. You have a question for.
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Speaker 15: Hank Hey, Hank, my parents on the age pension and they've always been doing Center pay for their bills, which is great, but Telsa's now that they don't do that anymore. Are you aware of that?
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Speaker 6: That's the first I've heard of it, Jason. Look, i'd be surprised if that's the case. However, I won't put myself into further trouble by venturing down the track of saying no, no, I don't think that's right, Jason. Well, I'll do is. I'll get an answer for you, and we'll contact Graham's producer and do an answer. I'm sorry I didn't hear that.
00:57:35
Speaker 15: If that's true that Tilchia doesn't do anymore, what about the money that's coming out of my parents' pension, does it or do they just stop and stays in their pension or that still go out somewhere alone.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, no, it would stop. But look, to be honest, Jason, this is the first I've heard of this, and you know I can't imagine that anyway. Look, we'll get you an answer, and I'll we'll get the word to the producer and hopefully before this segment ends, I'll have an answer for you.
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Speaker 15: Thanks.
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Speaker 1: For that, and thanks for call Jason eight double two three double o double if you have a question or Hank Johnan, now is the time to ring another from the text line for you, Hank. Why do disability pensioners have to report that they're going overseas first? And why are they only allowed four weeks in enrolling here? Why can't we report this online? Oh?
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Speaker 6: Look, the capability simply isn't there for disability support pensioners to report travel overseas. Plus, we often have more questions that we need to ask. For example, if you're going overseas for approved treatment, then the four weeklimit wouldn't apply. That's why we need to have a discussion with you in relation to that. So and look in terms of why disability support pensioners can only go overseas for a four week period in any twelve month period, that's because it's simply the law. You know, that's been a longstanding policy that's been in place. There are some exemptions, but after a disability support pension overseas more than four weeks, it will have an impact on their payments. Now, let me just say for other listeners, those rules do not apply to age pension in relation to age pension, you can stay overseas for a period of up to six weeks without it affecting your pension. And in fact, you can travel a number of times over any twelve month period and each time you can remain for up to six weeks without it affecting your pension. Now, the difference with disability support, of course, is because we're talking about people with just stabilities. We're talking about people that may require treatment, et cetera. And that's why I think the rules are different.
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's take another call to Hope Valleys Stewart. Good morning, Stuart, go ahead, I thank you.
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Speaker 16: That vice you're giving about income and taxation is it's excellent. I started a part time job last year and also had something to link components of my income, and I just asked our pay people to take an.
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Speaker 17: Extra twenty five dollars.
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Speaker 16: I'll pay out and send it to the tax officer, and when comes with combined.
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Speaker 17: To tax, I got smaller attack.
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Speaker 6: Yes, Stuart, that's a really good thing that you've done by paying the additional tax. You know, on the assumption that knowing that the central link payment is taxable. The other alternative you could have taken up Stewart was to have us take deductions out of your payment directly. In other words, if you're receiving age pension, we could take out fortnitey deductions from your age pension at your request. We don't do it automatically. And as you've already indicated, what that does is that less thans the impact at the end of the financial year.
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Speaker 17: Link did off of me that that did offer me that that can't do that, But I just thought there's one lot of tax going from my pay. It was just easier to increase that a little. But either way it would work.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, Stuart, your choice completely gone.
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Speaker 1: Stuart, thanks for call eight double two three double O double. We have a question for Hank Johnman. Now's the time time to call eight double two three double O double.
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Speaker 4: O vive double A morning with Graham, goodings.
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Speaker 1: And a very good morning to you on this Wednesday morning. We have Hank gone from Services Australia to answer your questions on eight double two to three double O double O and let's take a call from Steve and Birkenhead. Steve, you have a question for Hank.
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Speaker 18: Yes, sir, good morning gentlemen. Hank back in March, I receive a notification per side increase in age pension and on this form says the information is calculating your payments of your TATO assets which was the X amount, and and your income which is X amount. Now I haven't worked for over a year, so I'm just a little bit confused what the annual income is. Would that be the depiction I'm receiving or some other that.
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Speaker 6: Would relate to income from your investments.
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 6: Obviously, if you've got a rental property, it's whatever income it derived. If you've got shares, that could be that intro that income, because what we do is we apply a deeming rate to all investments, and that is what that income would indicate. Look, if you've got any concerns about that impact, I'll go a step extra. If you're happy to stay on the line, Steve and provide your details to the producer, then I can get someone to contact you in the next day or two and we'll just clarify what that income is.
01:03:35
Speaker 18: Okay, hold the.
01:03:38
Speaker 1: Line, let's move on to Angelo. Nor Angelo.
01:03:42
Speaker 19: Here you go.
01:03:45
Speaker 20: The go ahead that is in I got about my wife and there right, I'm gonna amploy it stop seeing that out.
01:03:57
Speaker 13: And the last couple of years a buddle my wife full time. She doesn't work.
01:04:02
Speaker 20: She's been pre ill to get care allowances to that or not.
01:04:10
Speaker 6: There are two payments that potentially could be applicable here. The first one is care allowance now. Care allowance is around one hundred and sixty dollars a fortnight. It's a top up payment to help you with the cost of things like medications, you know, the extra cost of petrol taking you out to the doctor. And essentially what it's about is providing you a bit of extra income to help cope if you're looking after someone on a full time basis. So that's allowance. The other payment is care payment now it is a full income support payment. It's paid at the same rate as age pension and disability support pension. In order to receive that payment, you've got to providing full time care and attention, which a sounds as though you have, but then the question relates to the degree to which your wife is suffering a disability. So look, it's really important for you to have a look at our website and you'll find on the very front page there's a box called health and disability. And if you look there and you look for care of payment, you'll find all of the eligibility criteria there and you may need you may want to consider claiming. Now you will be required to provide us with medical evidence in relation to your wife in order to support your claim. So it's important to talk to your doctor and any specialist first. Oh God, do that, okay, Thank you, Good on, Angela.
01:05:56
Speaker 1: Thanks for call eight double two three, double o double the number to ring to speak with to Hank John from Services on Stator. Bill has called that number. He's on the line now, Bill, go ahead.
01:06:06
Speaker 16: Oh, good morning to both.
01:06:07
Speaker 13: Good morning Graham, Good morning Hank.
01:06:09
Speaker 6: I just want to give.
01:06:09
Speaker 21: A bouquet to your people. Quite a few years ago I applied for the age pension. Took all my stuff down to Glenhilg and the lady went through it all and she said, oh, you've gone to provide your financial statements.
01:06:25
Speaker 16: And I said oh, and she said, don't worry about it.
01:06:27
Speaker 13: We'll keep all this.
01:06:28
Speaker 21: Here for you write for you to come back. I came back and got it and got the pension, and I used to go to Henley Beach and I said to them that Henley Beach Road. There there was a sind A link and I said to them, oh, is it all right if I go to the glennil one And they said, yes, we thought you came here just because you liked this, and so I've always found them so helpful, professional and courteous.
01:06:52
Speaker 6: Thank you very much.
01:06:54
Speaker 1: Good on your bill, Bill.
01:06:55
Speaker 6: I really appreciate that call, as you can appreciate, you know, by me coming onto this sort of program. Of course, if people have got issues that they need help with, they do contact us, and I do what I can to try and help people resolve the situation. But what's forgotten is that there are tens of thousands of people every week that engage with us in the way that bill is outlined, where there's no hassles, where we treat our customers exactly as they would expect to be treated, and we treat them with courtesy and requit and respect. So I really appreciate that bill. We'll send a note to the manager of both those officers, including the one you've dumped, and let them know how pleased you were with that service. Now, Graham, if I can can we answer Jason's question about Telstra sure Telstra is a registered center pay business, so you can use them to pay to pay your Telstra bills, but you can't use it to buy a phone or other equipment. It is only available to pay your phone bills. So Jason, if you want to call back and leave your details with the producer, will do what we can to solve this problem for you, although I think the solution lies with you talking to Telstra again.
01:08:33
Speaker 1: Excellent. Hopefully you're listening Jason, and that's provided the information you need. Steve, good morning, Oh.
01:08:40
Speaker 22: Good morning, Graham. I've only just switched on the listening to don't listen to the phone. We've been having trouble with Medicare, but I don't think I think I recognize Hank k Youngin's voice there. Hank doesn't look after Medicare, does he?
01:08:56
Speaker 6: Yes? I do?
01:08:57
Speaker 22: Oh you do, Hank. I've had a terrible experience with Medycare. My wife's been in hospital, she had to have surgery. We put in a two way Medicare claim form, and of course you would appreciate that Medicare pay certain benefits, and then my health fone private health fund then had to had to then then had to do their part. I've just found out after all this time and about three phone calls to Medicare and one to a service center this morning who had limited Medicare expertise, so they gave me a phone number the ring and I've just finally got off the phone, and then after about an hour and they've apologized they forgot to send the two way form for my private health fund's portion when I was down and I'm not going to mention the center. They said, do I need to cont Hank youngin about this? And they said, no, you need to speak to Albo. So it sounds as though staff are not being replaced from what I can gather, Hank, So that's really disappointing considering the government keep telling us that they're putting on all this extra staff. So I'm really really disappointed with that. I won't go into the private details, but to me, I really needed you to hear that, And it sounds as though it's not necessarily your problem, but it's a government problem, and I don't expect you to answer that, But I just think the service has been terrible unfortunately for us, Hank.
01:10:39
Speaker 6: Steve, This is not a government problem. From what you're saying, it sounds as though we've let you down in relation to your claim, particularly you know, you being told that we've forgot to process the part of it. Steve, I'm happy to look into this if you want me to hopefully been resolved for you. I'm really concerned about some of the experiences that you've had. Firstly that the fact that a claim has been formed lost and secondly, you know, this sort of comment that was made in relation to you know, don't talk to Hank, you know, talk elsewhere. I just find that completely unacceptable. But Steve, there is another issue here too, and that is clearly the specialists that you're dealing with are not using the technology that's available. What you'll find is that ninety percent of specialists and certainly nearly all medical practitioners now use our online services, which means that you don't have to go to the inconvenience of lodging, pay per forms with us and then us submitting it to your private health insurance. These days, all of that is in an automated fashion. Could I suggest next time you see you specialists, you talk to the receptionist there to just find out whether they're not using that technology, because trust me, it'll just streamline the process.
01:12:16
Speaker 1: Times, just one more called Dennis, go ahead, I hate We.
01:12:21
Speaker 7: Just saw our principal house and it bake you. We've got a bit of money for it, and we told them, we told them that command. All we want paid out is the house we're moving into, which is a retirement village, and a new car, and they feed and the bank took it. I got an invesion probably, and then they took out one hundred and nine thousand, and that we never even told them to do that. Okay, now I might I come deserve me our as on those and some of my aged psions.
01:13:07
Speaker 6: Well, look again, it's difficult for me to answer this over the phone, but let me just put it to you this way. If you had a house that you sold for let's say five hundred thousand, and you've bought a new home for let's say two hundred thousand and a car for fifty thousand dollars, you're then left with an asset of one hundred and fifty thousand dollars, which we have to take into account in because it's money that is available to you in the bank and it is an asset. So I'm wondering if that's what's happened. I'm happy to have a look at your situation, and if you want to leave your details with the producer, I'll get someone to contact you and we'll work it through with you and explain the situation. If I can just say more generally, if you're in receipt of an age pension and you do intend to downsize or sell your property, then it's really important to let us know in advance what your intentions are. And the reason for that is if you intend to sell and buy, then we can exempt the money that you intend to buy a new property with from the assets test. The other thing is that it's really important to understand what the implications of these sorts of financial decisions are, and I would always recommend that you contact an excellent service that we run called the Financial Information Service. This is a service where we have specialists that can look at your situation and tell you what the impact of your financial decisions will be on your pension. And let's face that there are many points in your life where this could be happening, and I strongly urge you to talk to them in this situation. So the number for them to make an appointment is one, three, two, three double zero one three two three double zero. When you're prompted about the reason for your call, say financial information service, You'll then be put through to a line where you can make an appointment over the phone or face to face. And I strongly urge people to do that when you face with these sorts of decisions.
01:15:38
Speaker 1: Hank always great advice, greater chat. We'll speak with you again in about a month's time. Height double two to three double o doublo is the number to ring back after the news.
01:15:46
Speaker 4: Five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
01:15:50
Speaker 1: It's ten past eleven five double A the final hour of the show. Still plenty of time for you to take part. Give us a call. In fact, we have a double pass to Into the Woods Majesty's Theater to give away experience the music, the magic and the mystery Into the Woods four shows only at a Majesty's Theater August twenty two to twenty nine. You can book now through State Opera Sartha Strata and we'll pick a random caller between now and midday. It could be you. Eight double two to three double O DOUBLEO is that number. It's always sad when we hear about the closing or iconic Adelaide landmark the Purple Penny in Mawson Lakes. It's one of Adelaide's only dedicated collectible and antique coin dealers. Well, they'd they're going to close their doors next month. The owner is Mark. He joins us Now, Mark, good morning to you.
01:16:35
Speaker 10: Hello Graham, thank you for having us all Ah.
01:16:38
Speaker 1: Why have you decided to shut the doors?
01:16:41
Speaker 10: Look, it was always planned. We've been planning it for sort of about fifteen years or so, to retire when I turned fifty five, and I turned fifty five several months ago, and the time has come.
01:16:53
Speaker 1: Would you miss it?
01:16:55
Speaker 12: I will?
01:16:55
Speaker 10: I missed the people. The people are my favorite part of the job we have I like to consider as my friends. And not being able to come in here and talk to my friends and swap coin collecting stories and ask them about the day, I will miss that definitely.
01:17:10
Speaker 1: What attracted you do coin collecting in the first place.
01:17:14
Speaker 10: Well, I first got started when my son was born in two thousand and three, and it sort of exploded out of control since then. But what I really love these days is the historical connection between coins and.
01:17:30
Speaker 23: Our past.
01:17:31
Speaker 10: I love being able to hold a two thousand year old Greek coin in my hands, and just think about all the hands that have passed through and how it managed to get into a shop in Wason Lakes.
01:17:41
Speaker 1: We lived very much in the digital world. As the attitude towards collect coin collection and coin collectors changed in your time, yeah it has.
01:17:51
Speaker 10: Coin collecting has moved more into collecting modern products, and people said as a way of investing, and they'll it's modern coin products and then trade them by various social media channels. So that's certainly been a huge change in the last five or ten years.
01:18:08
Speaker 1: What sort of people are attracted to coin collection.
01:18:12
Speaker 10: Well, there's people like me are interested in the historical side of things. There's people who just like collecting shiny things, and then there's people who consider it to be an investment.
01:18:24
Speaker 8: And then there's.
01:18:25
Speaker 10: People who a very common reason to collect coins is to put together sets of coins to pass down to children or grandchildren.
01:18:32
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people would say, you know, the only interesting coin collection is if you get something that's really rare and valuable. But people are obviously collecting them for other reasons than that.
01:18:42
Speaker 13: Yeah, that's right.
01:18:42
Speaker 10: Everyone popes to see the rare and valuable thing. But I see more coins in a week probably than most people would see in just about their entire lives, and they wouldn't see more than one genuinely rare thing every three or four years.
01:18:56
Speaker 1: Is that right?
01:18:57
Speaker 21: Yes?
01:18:58
Speaker 1: Because we hear about certain certain coins and they're an imperfection? Is that what it is that makes a coin distinct and worth something because it has been printed with an imperfection or something like that?
01:19:11
Speaker 10: Absolutely, that is a great interest to people. Errors are easy to look at, easy to understand. It's easy to see what's gone wrong for them, and it's always a romantic notion that maybe when you flip over your twenty cent piece and you change and it's got some massive error on it, and you can sell it for hundreds or thousands of dollars, and that's sense of the treasure hunt that people love.
01:19:33
Speaker 1: Are these imperfections readily obvious or do you really have to be looking out for them?
01:19:39
Speaker 10: The readily obvious ones are the valuable ones. So you know, you might see a dollar coin that struck on a ten cent piece, or a two dollar coin that has the color applied to the wrong side. Generally, the errors that are easy to understand are the ones that are worth more money.
01:19:54
Speaker 1: So people, I mean people, we're heading towards a cashless society. And that's an argument for another day. But the fewer people are carrying a pocket full of coins around with them. But is it worthwhile when we get the collection of coins just to take a look at them and try and just see if there's anything valuable, something that we might be missing.
01:20:14
Speaker 10: Absolutely, that's called noodle and Graham. There's lots of people that noodle through change looking for little errors and varieties and perhaps low linkage years. And I call it a bit of a gateway into coin collecting. It's a way to get interested in collecting, to learn about it and then perhaps move on to medieval coins or ancient coins or Australian predecimal coins.
01:20:37
Speaker 1: Have has the technology improved over the years so that imperfections and impurities and strange aspects of coins is becoming rareer?
01:20:50
Speaker 10: Yeah, looks the quality control that the mint has definitely improved. We see a lot more errors on pennies and half pennies and shillings and things like that than what we do on modern coin. Suppose certainly the quality control at the mint has improved.
01:21:03
Speaker 15: Over the years.
01:21:04
Speaker 1: I remember not that long ago, my wife saw something about something on a fifty cent coin that could be worth something, and she every time she sees a fifty cent coin now she looks at it with a fine toothcomb. What should we look for, and well, say, a fifty cent coin.
01:21:22
Speaker 10: Fifty cent coins, I'd be looking for ones that don't have the usual twelve sides, because every now and again fifty cent blanks have been mixed up with blanks from other countries, all right, very occasionally that happens. I'd be looking for twenty ten fifty cent coin with a coat of arms on the reverse. They were some of those were struck incorrectly, so the coen's head is not the right way up when you rotate the design around. And then I'd always be looking out for nineteen sixty six fifty cent pieces, which are eighty percent silver. They're round, so they don't have the twelve sides, but you often see them in collections of fifty cent pieces, and they'll sort of slipped through. People won't notice that they're a different shape, but they've got silver and they're worth twenty five or thirty dollars.
01:22:07
Speaker 1: Yay, oh, right, what's the most expensive coin that you've come across.
01:22:11
Speaker 10: We've had a couple of nineteen thirty pennies coming here, which is the lowest vintage penny, and they might be worth fifteen or twenty thousand dollars.
01:22:19
Speaker 1: Wow.
01:22:20
Speaker 23: Yeah.
01:22:20
Speaker 1: Look, when we talked about doing having a chat with you, the first thing I thought of was, oh, nineteen thirty pennies, because I think everybody as at some stage heard a story about you know, a nineteen thirty penny is really worth something and they still are.
01:22:34
Speaker 13: Yeah, they are.
01:22:34
Speaker 10: They were in the nineteen sixties when we change over to decimal currency, they became absolutely mythical and people of your generation and press my generation have all heard of the nineteen thirty penny. It's easily the most famous Australian coin.
01:22:52
Speaker 1: You've got a lot of history what you've done, and you know the coins that have passed through your hand, and you've admitted to the fact that you're going to miss that sort of thing. Is coin collecting a dying art, you know? Or people still collecting coins at the same level they always have.
01:23:09
Speaker 10: Graham when we open, I mean, we've been trading for almost twenty years and we've been trading out of the shop for the last seven When we opened, we thought that, you know, it might be a nice, little quiet way of leading into retirement. But I can tell you every year since we opened it has got busier and busier, right, and the Holly is as stealthy as it's ever been. It's perhaps people are switching to other types of coins, but there are still new coin collectors and it's really heartening to see the younger generation collecting coins.
01:23:42
Speaker 1: What would you say to someone say, who's thinking, Oh, I wouldn't mind starting a coin collection. Where do you start? What do you do?
01:23:50
Speaker 10: I always tell people to collect what interests them, or collect what they love. If you collect what interests you and collect what you love, then it becomes a potentially a lifetime bobby. So, you know, if you're interested in history, Roman history, Australian history, English history, whatever it happens to be, you know, try and find a connection between what you're interested in and coins of that era.
01:24:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I guess the beauty of the Internet these days is that, you know, the source of information is only only a computer away.
01:24:21
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's never been easier, It's never been easier. We've had a large numismatic library or printed library. But over the last twenty years or so that we've been doing this, we will dip into that less and less because more and more information is available online.
01:24:34
Speaker 1: Now. Mark, before I let you go, William on the text line and said, Hi Graham, can you please ask your guest will the blue two dollar coin pack become collectible?
01:24:44
Speaker 10: Well, they already are collectible, and while bluey is popular amongst families, I would suggest that they will remain collectible. Perhaps in forty years time we might look back and wonder who blue is and they won't be as popular is.
01:25:00
Speaker 22: What they are now.
01:25:02
Speaker 1: And Peter wants to know a two dollar coin with a poppy is it worth anything?
01:25:08
Speaker 10: So in twenty twelve, the Mint released two types of poppies. They released one that just has a gold it's just a normal gold colored to dollar coin with a copy on it. There's also one that was released through the RSL which has a red colored poppy on the reverse. There definitely worth something. Who were three hundred dollars? Was also one released in twenty eighteen which has a poppy on it.
01:25:30
Speaker 24: And those.
01:25:32
Speaker 10: Look there were something to collectors, but to coin shops they're not worth a lot.
01:25:36
Speaker 1: Mark, it's great to chat with you. I'm sorry to hear that The Purple Penny will be no longer, but I'm sure you'll keep up your love and your interest of coin collecting.
01:25:45
Speaker 10: Well, thank you Graham, thanks for having us on, and thanks to real listeners.
01:25:48
Speaker 1: That's Mark from The Purple Penny shutting down. Are you a coin collector? I think as a kid for a little while, I did a little bit of coin collecting, but it got because I was expecting to find and make my fortune over night. Just didn't quite work out that way. But what are you into collecting coins? Stamps, beer can holders, stubby holders. I know someone who's a stubby hon hold a collector. Oh and Sam's just walked into the studio. Sam, you look like this kind of guy. I be a stubby hold a collector.
01:26:18
Speaker 25: Well, yes, I do have a collection of stubby holders, so whenever I do go somewhere, I'll try to pick one up. But when I was younger, I went through a real phase of collecting business cards.
01:26:30
Speaker 1: Oh seriously, yeah.
01:26:32
Speaker 25: And then it got to a point where my mom's mum, if she'd been anywhere, would collect business cards. And I had this whole. I can't tell you why or how it started, but I started collecting business cards at about age twelve. I don't know where they are now. I had to stack them and it was like a good contact book. I should have kept them for now. But business cards, well, that's an odd one.
01:26:50
Speaker 1: That is an odd one. Who's got the weirdest and most bizarre collection? What have you collected over the years? Sam's is business cards? Strange? There you go. It takes all kinds. Tell us your favorite collection or the collection that you've you've heard about somebody collecting bizarre things that might be worth something one day, or just curios that you can hang on the shelf, put on a put on the wall. Eight double two three double double Backshordan.
01:27:19
Speaker 4: Five double A. Mornings with Graham Goodings.
01:27:25
Speaker 1: Collecting. When have we started here? Andrew says, as a ten year old, I used to cut out and collect the weather satellite photos from the back of the newspaper. I had hundreds, but I never did anything with Hi Graham. I collect sand. I have one hundred and seventy small jars of sand from around Austrata and overseas. Nearly all are from beaches. I have visited god On you warrant collecting sand cordon all on a create your own sandpit. I was going to collect kisses from as many women as possible. All I managed to collect were slaps. Okay, dear Idea, and Jim says, I know what they call them, are talking about going to the theater and getting a program. I call it, well, let's call it a program. I know what they call them, Graham then book things your wife buys, they call them junk. Thank you for that, Jim, Tom Kutson turnus used to collect traffic fines, says Daryl. We won't go there. What have you collected over the years? Have you collected anything of interest?
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Speaker 4: Eight?
01:28:26
Speaker 1: Double two three double o double oh, it's the number to ring, dear Ada, the things that we collect. I'd like to know your thoughts and do you have what is or is what is the most unusual collectors item that you've heard of? What is the most dangerous collectors item that you have? Or what is the most benign or the most boring? People collect spoons? What about those spoons that you go all around the or snow globes. Snow globes were huge, and I think if I'm my memory serves a collect correctly. Going back to the days of Channel seven or Channel ten newsroom, we had a whole desk covered with snow globes. Why, I don't know. Collections a strange things, A double two three, double double. If you'd like to contribute to our collection. As a parent, I think we all have ideas of bringing up kids. The thing is with being a parent, you don't need a license. You just all of a sudden you can do it. So you have kids, and then you always got plenty of advice. People tell you how to bring up kids. But are we doing it the right way? Are modern day parents any better or worse than past day parents? Are modern day parents bringing up their kids not so much as their children, but as their friends? Is it right? Is it wrong? The Parenting Paradox has been written by Jenny Brown, who joins us, Nah, Jenny, good morning to you.
01:29:54
Speaker 23: Good morning or is it afternoon? We're just sneaking into afternoon?
01:29:58
Speaker 1: Oh you well, good afternoon to you, Good morning to us. We're on the cusp.
01:30:02
Speaker 23: Ah okay, I'm here in Sydney right Well, that's lovely bringing up children?
01:30:08
Speaker 1: Is it more difficult that it was? Twenty thirty, forty years ago.
01:30:12
Speaker 23: Well, I think parenting has always been an anxious job. We are naturally very protective as parents, but I think that modern day parenting has flipped into overprotection over worry. And what I am trying to do in writing this book is helping parents get out of their worry cycle and get a little calmer and rediscover what's in their control to add, just in the way they're relating to their kids, especially the children that trigger their worries the most.
01:30:50
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot more to worry about, it would appear these days. I'm old enough to remember the generation where you know, the kids would go out to play and their parents would let them go off down the street or next door and you know, next neighborhood. When the street lights come on, make sure you're home. You know, you could ride your bike to another suburb. Nobody seemed to worry all that much. But parents wouldn't do that. I as a parent, would not allow my children to just roam the streets for hour after hour and come home when it got dark. You know, you want to know where they were. Why has that changed?
01:31:26
Speaker 23: Yeah, Well, there's this term called safety. Isn't that's been talked about. We've become much more risk averse as parents. Parents are very careful about not letting their children have much unsupervised time, which is different to my childhood as well, and I think that this is an issue that has added to the burden that parents carry and that children have less opportunity and less space to have free play vise time. Doesn't mean that parents completely should neglect their children and let them roam into unsafe areas, but parents can be helped to learn to step back a bit more, give their children space to have the more opportunity to initiate their play, to initiate their socializing. It is something I write about is just how parenting has become professionalized. We outsource a lot of.
01:32:30
Speaker 11: It to experts.
01:32:31
Speaker 23: We involve children in a lot of extracurricular activities. And it's great for every parent listening to just pause for a moment and think how much of my children's life is supervised and structured by adults rather than space where they can grow their own resourcefulness, their imagination. So it's one of the really useful questions to pause and ask.
01:33:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we all would like to say our children, you know, bloom and blossom and grow. That we have that fear that there are predators out there, and now with social media, that's something that many of us didn't have to worry about. But social media is there. Parents have to be ever vigilant, don't they.
01:33:19
Speaker 23: They do, And we need to be careful about the messaging that we get on social media and media in general, because our current social media echo chambers are looking for people to link in, so they're sensationalized. Their stories are the dramatic ones. It's fuel parents' fears. And actually our society is much safer than it's ever been, but we don't hear about that. We hear about all the things, all the dangers, all the things that go wrong. So I mean, there are some concerning things that happen in society, and social media has been an area where children are being targeted, and that's something I'm glad that our country is addressing and supporting parents on with age limits on access. But over all the world is actually safer for children than it has been in decades gone by. Wow. And I think.
01:34:23
Speaker 2: If we.
01:34:25
Speaker 23: Don't want a parent out of fear, our kids pick up on that. We become too intense they react to being monitored and protected, and that doesn't bring out the best in our children.
01:34:43
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I mean going back to my childhood. You know, we went out and made mud pies, We drank out of the hose, you know, we rolled around with a dog. And current day parents are you know, over sanitizing. Be careful, don't touch that, you know, to the point of the kids sort of appear to be losing that will to explore, to adventure.
01:35:04
Speaker 23: Yeah, I think that's true. We don't want to oversentimentalize the childhood of decades gone by. It had its strength and its weaknesses. But what I see current parents doing is they are trying to correct what they see as their parents' lack of availability, and they're going in the other direction. So many modern parents are saying, I'm going to be there for my child. I'm going to throw everything at my child. I want my child to be happy. I want to give them what I feel my parents didn't give me. And sadly it is backfiring. It comes from a good place, but parents are seeing that the more they give to their children, they seem to still get stuck. And that's why I've written before the parenting paradox to show parents that you can return to balance. And the key message is, and this is the paradox, that rather than try and give our children everything we think they need, we put our energy into changing ourselves as parents, working out how we can respond differently to our children. And that's where parents can recover hope. So the other piece that I have out there is the Parent Hope Project. People can look that up as well, just helping parents recover their confidence by putting their energy into what they can change rather than the modern day scriptive parenting, which is you make a project out of trying to shape and change your child and it doesn't work. I think parents can recognize that, but I don't want parents to be feeling any more guilt. Last that's lusking parents need. They need to be able to recover their job description and their identity, and that's what I'm aiming to put out there for parents.
01:37:12
Speaker 1: Do you think many parents are trying to be more of a friend to their children than to act as a parent.
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Speaker 23: Well, the research is showing that the most the popular goal that parents report for their kids is that they are happy. And on the surface, that seems like a good thing, but the trap of wanting happy children is one that doesn't face the realities of life and building resilience required dealing with unhappiness. But I do think the idea of parents wanting their children to always be happy has moving into accommodating to them doing whatever they can do to relieve discs dress and that can look like just always being a friend to their child rather than a leader for their child. And parent leadership is really important to recover. Not its loving leadership, not intense authoritarian leadership, but the kind of leadership that knows when to say no, I'm not willing to give you that right now, or I'm not willing to drop everything to solve that problem for you. That kind of leadership that help children realize that they're not the center of the universe. They're important and they're precious, but they need to learn in the world that they've got to make space for other people as well. We don't want entitled children. We want responsible children, don't we, Jenny.
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Speaker 1: It's not easy being a parent it Oh no, it's hard, very difficult.
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Speaker 23: Yeah, And we want parents to recover the joy of parenting because the stats are saying that parents are more stressed than ever, it's really a public health issue the level of stress that parents are reporting, and we want them to recover the pleasures and the joy of raising the next generation. And I think one of the important ways to do that is to stop trying to be the perfect parent, to stop trying to have the perfect child, to regain a sense of here's how I can bring my best to my child, and yes, to recover that sense of this is a privilege. We don't want it to be this impossible, perfect project that is unachievable. And not only that I see in my working mental health and child mental health over the years that paradoxically, the more that people throw their attention at their children overdo it with their children, the more their children struggle to flourish and develop their own resources. But there is a way to turn that around.
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Speaker 1: There really is, doctor Jenny Brown, thanks so much of your time, author of The Parenting Paradox. The joys of being a parent just one of the great delights in life to bring up children and see them flourish, But it can be a tough job. Has parenting changed over the time as you as a parent then a grandparent, have you seen your kids bringing up their kids differently than you brought up them. They learnt from your errors. I'd like to know your thought. It's eight double two three double do double.
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Speaker 4: Doh five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: We've covered an awful lot of territory today, haven't we? Collectors, children, par prices, you name it from the knees Room. In fact, on the text line, Mel says Malasha, this is what about collecting experiences. I go to ikeas and hard rock cafes all over the world. I've been to hard rocks in Dublin, Dubai, New York, Berlin, London, et cetera. Yeah, I can handle Mel. I'm going to the hard rock cafes terrific. Going to Ikeas all over the world would not totally excite me. But to each his own, somebody says, I have a big collection of phone cards. They were used to call overseas in phone boxes. Let's say a call John, good morning, Oh.
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Speaker 24: Hi Gram that lady that you've just had on was it Mary? She made so much sense. Look, I'm divorced, have been for years. My girl was five years old when we split up, and she has watched what happened with us too. And is determined not to let it happen to her children, which she has too, and she has gone into what they call helicopter parents, where they're just smothering their children with kindness. But what's happened is I'm estranged from my two grandchildren because my daughter thinks I'm a threat or a danger in some way and I might influence them in some bad ways. So it's such a shame. It's such a shame.
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Speaker 20: But I just want to warn a lot of these young mothers and please don't estrange your children from their grandparents, because you are doing them a great disservice if you do.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's good advice. John. The role of grandparents cannot be overstated. It's so important. I'm not just talking about babysitting, but as role models, they're there. The grandparents provide so much stability in life. I remember growing up as a young child, my maternal grandmother was, you know, a rock in my life, a rock in my existence, and a wonderful person. My grandfather's were unique characters, And yeah, the grandparents play a pretty vital role, no question about that. Fred says, what I have noticed these days, especially teenage children, they feel that they are entitled, and part of that I think is the parent's fault, justin opinion. Thank you for that, Fred Rayman. You want to talk about collections. What do you collect?
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Speaker 19: Yeah, Graham, I'm a collector, but my wife has another name for it. I think you know the word.
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Speaker 7: Hoarder.
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Speaker 19: Of course. I've collected Sydney two thousand Olympic pins badgers, and on the topic of hard rock cafes the experience there, I've collected and traded hard rock cafe pins.
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Speaker 6: Right.
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Speaker 8: I've also traveled a.
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Speaker 19: Lot over the years for work, and I've got a large collection of airline boarding passes and sick bags.
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Speaker 1: Sick bags. I can understand the airline boarding passes because that would sort of conjure up memories of wonderful travel, but sick bags not.
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Speaker 19: So much also wonderful travel because I haven't used them, ha ha. Well, and some of them have very nice logos and pictures on them.
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Speaker 1: So and the collection that's wonderful. Good on your ram. And I'm pleased to hear that they were sick bags that were not actually used. People collect them amazing things, Hi, Graham. I had a tenant who like to collect everything. It took two months to clear away and clean up. Good on your Mick, Hi Gramm. I used to collect match boxes and coasters many minions ago, until I found out there were they were flammable and insurance would not pay if they caused a fire. I got rid of them in a hurry. Good on your Churi, Leith Forrest. Are you a collector of any not? Really?
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Speaker 26: Just disappointment with my football team? Probably just collect tears.
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Speaker 1: To them up. Collect a new footy team? You ever thought come on now?
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Speaker 26: No, no, no, I wish i'd I've got some Like most people, you've got some things. I collect the odd You know, when when Winks won races and there were like one off cans of beer, I would collect that.
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Speaker 1: I don't know why. To be honest, I mean I think it. To be a real collect you've got to be passionate about it. You don't sort of say, oh, well there's a set of ten, but I've got three.
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Speaker 26: You know when Coke put out the bottles with people's names on them, like I've got the kids because I thought that might be cute.
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Speaker 1: But I don't know, I sort of yeah, the enthusdaysm wains after a while you think I've got to go out and buy some more of those footy cars.
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Speaker 26: But I do it my people that do it. But I think of the money when I see those people that have the Lago collections, you know, and they have lego rooms and they glue it together because it's not too undone, or.
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Speaker 1: A Star Wars collection. They've got all the figurines.
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Speaker 26: And light sabers and their Darth Vader masks on them. But to you, there's a lot of money that goes into it. But if it brings some joy.
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Speaker 1: Exactly, far be it from us too.
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Speaker 26: Did you collect anything from the Crows ninety seven to ninety eight? Was there any sort of advertiser coin or yeah, I got the WEG poster those got a couple of those. Funny story and this I think relates to a Carlton Grand Final at the end of the game. You know, the WEG posters were for sale outside yep.
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Speaker 1: And we're all leaving and this this guy on crutches was going and he lined up the poster and he bought the poster. It was a Collingwood poster, right, and isn't that lovely? His footy teams won and he threw it on the ground and jumped up and down on it.
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Speaker 26: So they lost. So it's probably nineteen seventy when the Pies were up by seven goals and they lost.
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Speaker 1: That was it. I was there, one hundred and ten thousand people. That's it.
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Speaker 26: The Cezalenko U beauty mark. Yeah yeah, yeah, but I so he's already drawing the cartoon thinking they'll win.
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Speaker 1: Yeah wow, yeah, but that's right. So strange things. What have you got?
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Speaker 12: Those?
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Speaker 26: Coming up after one o'clock. One of those issues that people just get really irritated with. There are experts who are suggesting, now we shouldn't use the frame is good boy or good girl because it should be gender neutral. So when Will was shooting all those threes playing basketball, now you're not allowed to say, good boy, nice shot.
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Speaker 1: I don't think it ever happened. He shot a three.
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Speaker 26: But anyway, that is something that people are pushing. So we're going to talk about that. Whether that's just taking it too far. When it comes to this issue of boys and girls and letting them be themselves, he's going to be offended if one hundred percent I know, and.
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Speaker 1: If someone is trans or different, yeah, well you wouldn't be calling that good luck to them.
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Speaker 26: But if you're a six year old daughter and you shoot your first goal in netball, I'm probably going to say, good girl, well done, congratulations. So we'll talking about that, and the Wiggles are on the show. We've got a family pastor have you gone to a Wiggle show with your grandkid yet?
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Speaker 1: I haven't been, but Eve has taken our kids to the Wiggles and our eldest granddaughter, ELDI got to meet Simon. I think it was Red boat to it the good guys and yeah he is. He is up there on the pedestal.
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Speaker 26: If you're a parent or a grandparent, you know how hard tickets to get the year. Later in the year, we've got a family pass to give away, and we'll speak to one of the Red Wiggles Caterina on the shows today excellent see out the one Good on You.
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Speaker 1: That's Lee Forres coming up this afternoon on five DOAA Almost time to Go. A short time ago, Anthony Albanezi held a news conference regarding artificial intelligence. This is part of what he had to say.
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Speaker 27: From smartphones to rifftop solar strains have always been enthusiastic adoptors of new technology, and AI is of course already part of our daily lives, not as a novelty or a search tool. It's changing the way that our universities teach and the way that students learn. It's helping small business owners cut the time they spend on paperwork. It's driving productivity and it's driving discovery. It's building new screening tools for cancer and disease. It is a critical and urgent innovation priority for our defense force and security agencies.
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Speaker 1: Good morning, Welcome to Wednesday the fifteenth, a foggy day in Adelaide town. We'll find out more about that. Believe Adelaie Airport has been shut down once again. We'll cross to the Burea to find out just how extensive that fog is. I'm just looking out over Heinmarsh Square in the last half hour or so. It is certainly closed out quite considerably. So if it is fogging, you're part of the world, let us know about it. We will like to find out just how extensive the fog is right around our city. On the show today, lots to talk about, including your calls on eight double two three double O doublow the number to ring. I'll remind you that we've got Hank Jongen from Services of Australia on later this morning. We always get lots and lots of calls, so get in early. Hank Jongen will be joining us at around ten thirty this morning, so you can ring in with questions for Hank on eight double two to three double O DOUBLEO and with tax time with us, perfect opportunity to have a chat with Hank about that well. The Albany's a government's advertising campaign for The five percent deposit scheme has faced sharp criticism from political opponents over multi lingual ads in Mandarin and Arabic targeting prospective key clients.
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Speaker 2: At yint for Yuba, hokl Dan Jiga Adel ten four five percent Depossess Scheme Eaging Toto sun On Pie Now.
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Speaker 1: Labour insists the ads follow standard guidelines and that the scheme remains open only to Australian citizens and permanent residents. The program helps first home buyers purchase properties with just a five percent deposit backed by a federal government guarantee. The five percent deposit scheme has also drawn criticism as housing prices go backwards, meaning many new home buyers had negative equity in their new homes. The government expanded eligibility to permanent residents in twenty twenty three, a decision that drew controversy after fifty one thousand non citizens participated. The coalition has pledged to reverse this and restrict the scheme to citizens only. One nation has condemned the foreign language ads, arguing they promote the scheme too norm Australians amid Labour's high immigration policies, which it says driving up housing demand rents and inflation. Treasury's marketing spent on the scheme Helped to Buy has reached nearly seven million dollars. Meantime, Australia's housing construction is falling well short of the national Housing a CORD target. Around one hundred and seventy three thousand, five hundred homes were completed in the past twelve months. That's compared with the two hundred and forty thousand needed each year to deliver the one point two million homes by twenty twenty nine. That effectively is just seventy two percent of the required pace, leaving a short fall of about six or sixty six thousand, five hundred homes over the past year. I'd like to know your thoughts on the five percent deposit scheme. Are you happy with it being open to only Australian citizens and permanent residents? Should it be limited to only Australian residents? I like to know your thoughts on that eight double two to three double double. Oh, we'll speak with five double A political reporter from Canberra, Michael Packy, about not only that, but the government under fire on a numerous issue. They're about to announce what Anthony Alberanezi claims is the first national AI ministry anywhere in the world. Of course we have an AI ministry here in South Australia, but the Prime Minister is claiming it is a first for any nation. We'll also speak with Michael Packey about Angus Taylor saying that no coalition will be developed with one nation. Will he change his mind? Politicians have a habit of changing their minds. Will it happen on this case? Anyway? We'll speak with Michael Packy about that. As I speak and look out the window, the gloom and doom or fog is closing in on It's just how serious is it? Tom Anderson, the Bureau of Meteorology, Tom, good morning to you.
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Speaker 3: Good morning Graham.
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Speaker 1: It appears that the fog is worsening at the moment.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's if anything, it is coming in a little bit thicker. It did ease up slightly. We saw Adelaide Airport briefly, but then yeah, it's coming a bit bicker again. It is moving around a little bit, which is normally a good sign. But the only issue is it's sort of moving towards the south and it's originating north of the city. So we probably will see the foggy conditions continue through basically for the rest of the morning here.
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Speaker 1: So around about what time can we expect it to start lifting?
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Speaker 3: Would expected to start lifting by noon today. However, it's just a bit tricky now because there does seem to be a bit of cloud that's a bit higher up moving over the fog as well, so almost protecting it a little bit from the sun. We normally like to see the sun get a pretty direct light onto the fog to break it up a bit. And also the winds do seem to be picking up a little bit now, which is also good news, so hopefully it's all lifted by non good.
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Speaker 1: On your Tom, Thanks for that, Tom Anderson from the Vieerau on the fog Jetstar flight eight POH three just took off from Adelaide Airport. The fog is impacting arrivals. Several flights have been circulating, as you heard in five double A News with Cape. Just a short time ago, a Quantas flight from the Sydney to Adelaide was unable to land. It had diverted to Melbourne. Eight other planes are currently circling regional flights from Port Lincoln and Mount Gambia scheduled to leave for Adelaide have also been delayed. If you are involved in picking up or leaving Adelaide today, I would suggest you call Adelaide Airport or your airline to find out the latest information. But it is a moveable feast at the moment, because while the fog appeared to lift a little earlier, it has certainly descended and is very thick at the moment. If you live in and around the airport, give us a call, tell us just how thick the fog is. Eight double two to three double o double oh. In fact, if the fog is anywhere around your area, let's just see how widespread the fog is. But I mean it's not to be unexpected. It's not unexpected to have fog at this time of year, but for it to lift and then come back again and causing a bit of flight chaos, and no doubt that will progress right throughout the day. So even if you've got a flight around lunchtime or later, I'd suggest you call the airlines now to find out the latest information and keep in touch with the airlines and we'll keep you acquainted with what is happening if we can and when we can eight double two to three double O double oh is the number to ring back shortly five double.
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Speaker 4: A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Eighteen past nine, five double A on a foggy day in Adelaide Town. I'll tell you what. Since I've come on here, which has only been a few minutes, it's hard to see the other side of Heinmarsh Square the buildings were clearly visible. Now they are a faint outline amber. How foggy is it in your part of the world.
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Speaker 5: Yes, well, I should probably know. I'm at north Haven, but I'm at the very end of north Haven. I'm almost well lease outb next to the golf course there, and I can hardly see across the road. We often get, as you probably know, in the area, we often get sea fog. Yeah, that's right, Randy Studley deer and it just sticks around for so long. But obviously it's at the airport. It's not seafog, but now it's very odden.
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Speaker 1: Have the see of course straight good on, Yamba, thanks for bringing us up to date with that year. It's more than a sea fog this morning. It's descended from the hills and going far beyond and down into the airport change. US called from Port Agusta to say it's foggy up there too, So it's widespread around the state, no question about it. Well, yesterday President Donald Trump said the US was reinstating its blockade in the state of Hormuz, and we'll charge ships for safe passage. Less than twenty four hours later back the way, saying, the Golf States put forward a different plan, but.
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Speaker 6: We were doing it as a reimbursement.
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Speaker 7: The Gulf States are going to invest a tremendous amount of money into the United States.
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Speaker 1: And that was very satisfactory to me.
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Speaker 6: I think it's.
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Speaker 1: Actually much so. Just what is happening in the Golf joining US now is Strategic Analysis on STRADIA director Michael Schubrinch. Michael, good morning.
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Speaker 8: To you, Hey Graham, how are you good?
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Speaker 1: Thanks? What are we to make of the latest developments?
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Speaker 8: Well, I think we've just got a highly unstable US policy.
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Speaker 7: Now.
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Speaker 8: The whole reason that America was going back to war with Iran was because Iran wasn't going to now free passage through this trait of hon was but wanted the charge of fee, and so the American president said, well, we'll go back to war with them. But by the way, we're going to charge a twenty percent fee for ships to use the Straight of hon was, which, as you say, is backtracked on. But I think that the bigger point is the war is back on and it's focused on the Strait, but it's also directly affecting the physical security of the Gulf States.
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Speaker 1: And what does that do for security of world fuel supplies?
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Speaker 8: Well, it's that flow of twenty percent of the world's oil again. And meanwhile, over in the Red Sea, which is an alternative passage for some of the Saudi oil, the Hooties are in conflict now with the Saudis, and who knows they might close off that other way for Middle East energy to get out.
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Speaker 1: Can you tell us more about what the Golf States are offering that's made Trump change his mind regarding imposing at all.
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Speaker 8: Yes, well, we don't know too much. We know that there've already been a big part of the what was in the and in that was the Seafireer's ended. They were meant to be part of a big part of the three hundred billion dollar reconstruction fund for a run, So they were meant to be major providers of that money. But now this will be additional billions of investment into the US countries have been forced to do with Trump's trade war and tariffs.
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Speaker 1: Would you see this as you know, Trump doing the deal to spect that he sort of suggested a toll, knowing full well that the Golf States would come up with some alternative.
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Speaker 8: No, I don't think so. I think this is more just decision making on the run. And this the subtext here is President Trump's strong view that if the American military does anything anywhere in the world, someone else should pay them. It's a bit like you know we now have if they're going to do any international security, it's charges a pay as you go.
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Speaker 1: I mean, there's so much instability in the region. Trump's on again, off again tolls, saying Iran shouldn't impose a toll, and yet I saw some figures to suggest that the Iran toll was two million dollars a ship. The US toll would have been twenty two million dollars a ship, up to.
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Speaker 8: Thirty two for a big super tank, twenty percent of the value. So yes, he would have been charging about fifteen times what the Iranians said they were going to charge, and that's a very funny position to take. And I'm going back to war with you because you can't charge a fee for ships, but I'm going to charge a fee fifteen times as much. So I think this is confusing all the Gulf States because not only have they got remaining physical and economic damage from the war that before now, but now the strait is blocked again and they've got an extra bill to somehow appease Trump by saying they're going to invest in America. The aftermath, whenever this ends, is going to be Gulf States changing their relationship with America because of this behavior.
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Speaker 1: Because of the events in the state of Hollmus. Isn't it so that the rest of the world isn't as reliant on oil coming through that area as it was in the past before the war.
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Speaker 8: There have been there's been reduced demand for oil because the price has gone up. But the other thing that we have really noticed is energy reserves. So government stockpiles all around the world have been depleted, and we were hoping that they would be topped up again when the seafire happened, But those strategic oil stockpiles being run down means the buffer is disappearing, so the economic effect will get worse as this as the straight blockage continues.
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Speaker 1: So what do you say as the next development.
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Speaker 8: I think it's quite likely that the Americans are going to escalate further. I mean, the Iranians have already escalated away from just attacking shipping. They've attacked several Gulf states that host US military facilities. But the Americans may escalate. So Donald Trump's talking about trying to attack the deeply buried Iranian nuclear side under Pickaxe Mountain. And it's also likely that the major Iranian oily sports terminal in the Gulf, the carg Island, might be back on the menu for Trump to attack or seize.
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Speaker 1: What are we you to make of the fact that Donald Trump's always saying that they've decimated the leadership, they've decimated all the firepower of Iran, and yet Iran keeps fighting bag.
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Speaker 8: I think it's just a chronic misjudgment of Iran. When I saw the footage of the funeral events that killed Diatolicum and I you could see there was a rallying round the flag, a rallying around the country effect that it had happened from the war and a war and powers hardliners arder leaders than peacetime. So the Iranian regime is looking stronger and the country is looking more unified. It's still not a loved regime, but when your country's under attack, you tend to rally around the flag.
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Speaker 1: What impact or or what external countries like China and Russia, India saying, are they having an impact on this at all or just sitting back watching?
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Speaker 8: Well, I think Russia is in so much trouble with what Ukraine is doing to its energy sector, its oil refineries, and to its logistics and its ability to support its war in Ukraine. It's kind of preoccupied. Without that happening, the Russians would probably be trying to resupply some of the stuff the Iranian military needs. The Chinese are trying to keep very quiet. They were a major consumer of Iranian oil, but they're almost alone in still having quite large oil stockpiles that they haven't run down. And I think they're just watching America damage itself and its relationships in the Gulf.
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Speaker 1: So has any further role that can Australia play. I mean, this war looks like it could go on. You know, they're an interterminate a length of time. Is there any more that we should be doing.
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Speaker 8: I think there's very little we can do to affect decision making in Washington. I don't think even the most senior officials around Donald Trump are affecting his decision making. That idea of charging a twenty percent fee for ships would have been the president's own idea, I'm pretty sure. So I think Australia has to keep trying to insulate our economy and public from the disruption because as those government energy stockpiles run down around the world, it's going to get harder to get oil and petroleum products at a decent price. So the government's probably going to have to step in.
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Speaker 1: Michael Shubridge always great to talk, Thanks for time today, Director of Strategic Analysis Australia, on the ongoing crisis in the Middle East. While things seem to settle down, there was a peace, a settlement, a truce, it's flared again. The straight Ohill moves is up for you know, firstly, Donald Trump says, you know, the Uranians can't charge a toll. We'll take over and we'll charge a toll. But the difference in tolls the Iranians were charging two million dollars a ship. I said to Michael Tubridge, the US suggested twenty two million dollars per ship. He said for supertankers it was up to thirty two million dollars. So just a crazy state of affairs. On the state of the fog, it looks like flights are starting to land back at Adelaide Airport. CONTUS Link twelve seventy seven is currently coming into land. Other flights are breaking away from their holding patterns. It will take a while to clear the backlog, so stay with us. We'll keep informed. But if you are relying on getting out of Adelaide or picking up someone on an incoming flight, I suggest you get in touch with your airline for the latest. But it looks like it's a state of flux changing all the time. Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings twenty eight minutes to ten A. This Wednesday morning, Catherine says, morning, I'm at Myrtle Bank. It's clear here you could land a seven four seven on Fullerton Road at the moment. Well, thanks, Catherine, but I don't think we'll be diverting any seven four sevens to Fullerton Road. But thanks for the offer. Textas says, regarding the amount of oil that comes out of the Gulf, twenty percent was before the closure of the straight of Hall moves. It's downd in nine percent now. As we're talking to David Leany yesterday, he was suggesting that nations around the world have found ways around having to rely on the straight of Hall moves. And yeah, around ten or nine percent is now reliant on straight uphill moves. Jaane says, agree with only selling homes to Australian citizens and actual residents. Stop allowing people outside the country to buy horsing and those so called help schemes to get young people into homes are ridiculous. Just puts the prices up, So stop them. Thank you for that, Jane, and Helen says, morning it should be Australian citizens only. Thank you very much for that. Joining me, I was Michael Packing, five WA, Cambric correspondent. Michael, good morning to you.
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Speaker 2: Good morning Graham.
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Speaker 1: Lots to talk about. Firstly, the backlash against the government's five percent hausing deposit scheme, not so much the scheme itself, but who it's available to.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, look, and this has been an issue now for a little while and you've got the Opposition saying that if they were to win government, they would restrict it to ensure that it would be only Australian citizens that would be able to access the scheme, rather than permanent residents or non citizens, And so it is interesting. It probably does reflect the views of a lot of the people that have been calling and texting you this morning that they believe that the scheme should be reserved for Australian citizens and no one else. So the government is obviously not going down that path.
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Speaker 2: The scheme, from what I understand.
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Speaker 9: Has been relatively successful in the terms of the amount of people I've been accessing it. I think there's well over two hundred thousand people that have accessed the scheme, and from what I understand, about twenty.
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Speaker 2: Or thirty of those have defaulted.
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Speaker 9: That is that the government has to pick up the slack because these people.
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Speaker 2: Are unable to service the mortgage.
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Speaker 9: So if you know, if the Opposition were to win power, I'm sure that you would see changes to that scheme. But as things stand, the government believes it's been a success and is likely to continue with it the way it is.
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Speaker 1: We get a lot of feedback about the low level of deposits, so the equity that someone comes into a new house with with five percent, particularly in light of the fact that the government's keen to see the price of houses drop.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 9: Absolutely, and so one of the issues that started e merging merging in the last couple of weeks, especially during question time, as a result of the tax changes that the government has introduced to capital gains and negative gearing, we have started to see the prices of some proper start to fall in fairly steeply in some areas, which is why we're not seeing auction clearance rates really booming the way that they were earlier this year and maybe last year. Even though there's been a slight improvement in the auction clearance rates, they're still relatively low. And that's because people aren't willing to sell for the prices that investors are willing to offer. And so you have seen some of this reduction in prices, and to a certain extent, you are starting to see some.
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Speaker 2: People fall into what they call negative equity.
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Speaker 9: In other words, they've borrowed all this money, but the value of the property that they've bought doesn't quite match up. So some people are starting to fall into what they call negative equity. And it's mainly the people that have taken these five percent deposit schemes that are feeling the skin most of all.
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Speaker 1: I was interested to see recently that the majority of the state and are happy to see house prices full. I guess that would be those that have probably had been living in a house five, ten, twenty years. They've built up a lot of equity, so if it fell off, you know, and they lost you know, five or ten, fifteen thousand, it's not going to hurt them. It's just the new home buyers that are really going to be impacted.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 9: I mean, obviously you've got some people are that are glad that, you know, house prices are coming down because they believe it gives them a chance to get into the market.
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Speaker 2: And I suppose that's always going to be the tension.
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Speaker 9: In this issue, is that you've got some people that want house prices to fall reasonably drastically because they feel as though that will.
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Speaker 2: Help them into the market at a reasonable price.
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Speaker 9: But then you've obviously got people that are buying these homes or people that may want to sell these homes, and they feel that they're not going to get the price that they were hoping that that their property would bring. So I suppose that that's where there's always going to be the tension. But I think the other issue is going to they hear as a result of the policies that the government has introduced is that you're still, I think, going to have a supply issue because if people aren't selling because they don't believe that they're going to get the price for their property that they want, well, then that's going to create continue to create the supply shortage.
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Speaker 2: And then even where there's.
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Speaker 9: Houses available, maybe that they're available in areas where people can't easily get to work. You know, they're may be too far out of town and it's going to cost them so much to get to work that they think, well, it's not even worth our while buying a house in certain areas because you know, maybe the infrastructure still isn't there to be able to get people if they're working in the city, let's say, for argument's sake. So there are all these issues that do need to that do need to resolve themselves, but you know, the government is obviously hoping that that will happen.
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Speaker 2: There is a lot of development.
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Speaker 9: Wherever you go, there seems to be you know, blocks of units are popping up everywhere. So for some people, if they can get into that market, you know, they want those prices to fall. They want to be able to get into the market at a reasonable price. But then for others, they're obviously not willing to sell if they do believe that when they sell, they're not going to get the price that they want. So it creates that demand and supply.
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Speaker 1: Tension in Canberra itself, I believe. Well I don't know if it's in Canberra, but Anthony Albineasy is about to make an announcement today claiming a world first.
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Speaker 10: Yeah.
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Speaker 9: Look, essentially the announcement is on artificial intelligence. He's actually doing it at the University of Sydney in a couple of hours time he's making this speech. There's and essentially what he's going to say is that he wants to create an Office of AI and this Office of AI is going to sit within his own department, so that's the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet. And essentially what you're seeing here is that his department is start going to take some sort of control for the rollout of AI in Australia in the and take a bit more control for the policy settings and strategy of you know, rolling out AI. In the sense that this technology is rolling out at a rate of knots, more and more people are being told to use it. There's obviously some concerns that are starting to develop around it. There's people that are worried about their jobs and that that AI is going to take their jobs. There's also this issue of data centers. That data centers are popping up, you know, every everywhere, and a lot of people, you know, especially in some suburbs, believe that they've got no control over where these data centers are popping up because these data centers, what we are starting to find out, are heavy users of water. So you know, they do use a lot of water and a lot of energy. So one thing that I do know that the government is trying to push out is that they're saying that if you're a company that wants to build a data center, they want you to make sure that you know, you've got enough energy within that data center to be able to power itself, so you're not relying as much on the electricity greed. So you know, there is some talk that some of these data centers should be powered by small nuclear power plants module and nuclear power plants to power the data center rather than relying on the electricity.
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Speaker 2: Greed, which could put more.
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Speaker 9: Pressure on the electricity geed greed and you know, affects suburbs where these data centers are actually being built.
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Speaker 2: So there is this issue of data centers, this issue.
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Speaker 9: Of jobs, and I think that the Prime Minister has said, well, the issue is starting.
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Speaker 2: I suppose. I don't know if he's saying.
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Speaker 9: As much that the issue is getting out of hand, but he clearly wants a lot more control over the rollout of AI in Australia.
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Speaker 1: It might be a world first on the national level, but our Premier Peter malinask is it's literally twelve months ago, it's almost to the day that he introduced a Ministry of AI effectively and he is proudly boasting that he's trying to attract data centers to South Australia. Well, you're fully aware that a Southast data is you know what, the driest continent, and southa Stata is just about the driest state in Australia, and water is always at a premium. I mean, we suck so much water out of the Mudray for drinking water in this state, so it comes at a premium. We don't want to be pumping it into data centers. So and of course electricity is also in question two. So not only on a state national level, it's something that we all should be concerned about.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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Speaker 9: And the interesting thing about all of this, Graham, is that at the moment, believe it or not, the economy is essentially chugging along based on the building of these data centers. That's what's really keeping the economy afloat, which I think you can be quite dangerous that when you're relying on one industry or one sector to essentially bepowering the majority of your economy. You know, in terms of all these data centers, as you say in South Australia, and it's happening all over the country. But it's essentially the building and the construction works of these data centers that's essentially keeping the Australian economy bubbling along and keeping economic growth at a relatively stable rate. And while you know, some people will say, well that's good, the bottom line is there is also a danger to that, because when you're relying on one sector of the entire economy to really be driving overall economic growth, you know, you know, you've got some problems because your economy, the economic engine, i would argue, needs to potentially be data centers, and a whole bunch of other areas of the economy need to be chugging along as well to make sure that you've got, you.
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Speaker 2: Know, that that growth is spread out.
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Speaker 9: And as you quite rightly say, in South Australia, there are these issues of maintaining these data centers, especially given the amount of water that they use.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. On another subject, the ardor and love of one Nation seems to have cooled somewhat and now he is that Angus Taylor has ruled out and he thought of it coalition with one Nation.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, And look, I think that Angus Taylor has been coming under a little bit of pressure to say, you know, will you or won't you do some sort of deal with one Nation in the lead up to the next election. And the problem is with the Liberals, this is their issue.
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Speaker 2: You've got some.
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Speaker 9: Liberals and especially in South Australia, you've got people like.
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Speaker 2: The Tony Passen and Alexandtisch. You know, two Liberals, a Liberal senator and a Liberal.
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Speaker 9: MP in SA that believe that the Coalition or the Liberal Party should not rule out doing some sort of deal with one nation in.
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Speaker 2: The lead up to the next election.
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Speaker 9: The thing, You've got a whole other people within the Liberal Party, most notably Andrew Hasty in Western Australia, who believes that would be a mistake doing some sort of deal with one nation. So, you know, I suppose Angus Taylor's caught up in this pincer movement within his own party as to what to do about one nation. In the end, one nation is sucking those Liberal Party votes, you know, even though it's you know, even though one Nation seen a bit of slippage in its overall vote, it's still holding up.
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Speaker 2: It's still the second most popular.
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Speaker 9: Party in Australia after Labor, and it's pretty much Labor one nation and then the Coalition. So the Coalition, yes, it's making up some ground, but not enough. It needs to start really, you know, moving ahead at one nation and be at least the second most popular political party in the country. And so there are some there is this division within the Liberal Party. Some people are saying, yes, we need to be closer to one nation because essentially they stand for similar things that the Liberal Party stand for, and others are saying, no, we shouldn't be closer to the one nation because you know, they believe some of their policies would send the country broke. So Angus Taylor, he seems to be distancing himself.
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Speaker 2: He seems to be.
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Speaker 9: Saying, look, the Liberal Party and the Coalition more broadly needs to win an election in its own right, and that should be an election one with the Liberals and the National Party as its partner, and then you know, one nation. They may you know, see where they sit, but they don't want to maintain any sort of formal coalition with one nation. The Liberal Party still wants to be a party that stands on its own two feet as part of a coalition with the Nationals, but not with one nation in that grouping.
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Speaker 1: Is Angus Taylor making any headway with these leadership, Look.
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Speaker 9: It's incremental, that's what I would argue. I mean, yes, the last couple of opinion polls that have been released are showing that Angus Taylor, you know, is slowly getting the coalition vote back up. But it's still a long way from Labor and still lags one nation. So I think that unless you know Angus Taylor really, you know, drives home what the party stands for and what the party would do differently if it were to win the.
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Speaker 2: Next election, he's going to struggle.
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Speaker 9: Yes, he is making in roads, but they're so incremental, and I don't know that the Liberal Party has really got that much time to waste, given that an election is eighteen months maybe two years away at most. And I believe, and I think you and I have spoken about this before, Graham, I definitely believe that Labor will win the next election. It may lose some seats at a federal level, but Labor I think, will still be the government at the next election. But you know, the Liberals need to make some serious inroads and actually, you know, start snatching some seats from Labor to make any difference, you know, down the track. Otherwise, you know, it's it's just not going to go anywhere for them unless they really make some inroads and start snatching some seats from the Labor Party. And at the moment it's looking like One Nation could snatch those seats from the Labor Party.
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Speaker 1: Certainly in time is running out for them. Always great to chat Michael. Thanks for your time today, no problems.
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Speaker 2: Good on you, Graham.
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Speaker 1: Michael packing Fiveba's can But correspondent on the comings and goings and doings and throwings of the Canbra bubble. Richard says Angus Taylor and the Liberals need to start thinking of Australians and not themselves and work with one nation to get rid of Albanizi and his government. Thank you for that, Richard. And how are things at Cape Jervis A fog update? We can now see the hills from Heinmarsh Square. Yep, we can too. My producer Sam told me that because I'm literally sitting with my back to the window, but I have looked around and I can see the hills. So that is a breakthrough. Flights in our landing at Adelaide Airport, but you still need to check with your airline for any residual delays. So even though flights might be coming and going, there is a backlog and that will take some time to lift.
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Speaker 4: Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: What's happening on the stock market? Your odds is up by fifty nine points a Ssex two hundred similar up by fifty eight points, the dar Jones end of the day up by nine, Nasdaq up by two hundred and thirty three points. As for oil, Brent crude up again to eighty four point seven US dollars a barrel, West Texas crewed seventy nine point eight, and gold going for four fifty three US dollars and ounce. The Aussie dollar training at sixty nine point seven US Since Peter, good morning, Good.
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Speaker 8: Morning grim you.
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Speaker 11: I'm just wondering if the clouds lifted out of Canberra.
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Speaker 1: It's always foggy in canbra foggy minds anyway, it is.
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Speaker 11: No, I've just been looking considering we've got to get rid of Alberdies. He's causing so much problem and it will be road for no return. What we need policy to in Australia to what's good for the country first and what's good for the people.
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Speaker 1: Now tell me, Peter, are you a rusted on liberal or you know one nation voter or what's your history with voting giving.
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Speaker 11: I'm giving what called pulling hands a bit of leeway there, but you know, you take Albanezia. I mean I can't, but you know, I can't work out where he's going and he doesn't even know himself. He's talking about it, talking about, oh, we need to buy Australian goods, we need to do this, do that by a local stuff. But the companies are going bad. There's no instead the build, to expand, to take a risk, none of that. That's all out the window.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I saw it was it today. Thirty businesses are going bus today in Australia.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, are the start of it. But so you know, he wants everybody to sport local businesses, but they're disappearing very very fast.
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Speaker 1: There it is. I mean, I think we'd all like to support local businesses, but it gets down to you know, you've got only got so many dollars in your pocket, and if the local product is way more expensive than something from overseas, you know, you've got to think of food on the table. Something's got to give. And unfortunately Australian businesses are being priced out of the market, largely because of high costs, and a lot of that is to do with power. I mean, power prices in this country are absolutely outrageous.
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Speaker 11: Well it's one of these there should be good led by the government.
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Speaker 1: Peter, good on your thanks for your call eight double two to three double o double. If you agree with Peter or disagree, I'd like to know your point of view and have you changed your thoughts? Interesting and we touched on it with Michael Packy. Support for Pauline Hansen has cooled a little, not a lot. She still has a lot of support. One nation has a lot of support. Do you think she's done herself some harm of late with some of her decisions aligning herself with that radical in the UK and some of the things that she said, and after her National Press Club conference it would appear that her support for her is diminished a little. So do you still support Pauline Hansen if you supported her in the past or would you vote for her if the election were to be held tomorrow?
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Speaker 12: Edwin, good morning, Good morning.
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Speaker 13: Look, I must make comment about the the AIS and about what you said. I believe that though the waters will all go up in you don't have that much water, but they will even even he at a data centers will have it have their days because they will eventually have to run out of water too, because they won't be any for them either. And then there will just be all these starta centers and I won't be able to useless and they'll be all over So that'll be always the bunny. Well a waste of time to be pretty bad idea.
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Speaker 1: Well, this state, our premier is a gung ho on getting data centers, attracting them here. But I mean and he says it will support our grid and prop it up. But the point is data centers need power one hundred percent of the time. There's no downtime for a data center. There can't be. So what what happens if we have a drain on our power. The sun isn't shining, the wind isn't blowing. What's going to We're going to have brown arts in the suburbs to keep these data centers going. It worries work, and obviously it worries you to edwin.
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Speaker 13: Like I say, I believe that eventually the water run up. I want to be able to stick fool and then water well brid the buddy app and then it will be in with data centers can all be useless, will be all just all out of the place and won't be work. Do won't be work?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, it's interesting that in the US and as Michael Packey alluded to that when a lot of these major data centers bring their own power supply, and in the US I think it's Amazon and Microsoft setting up huge data centers with or attached to small nuclear reactors. Well, that ain't going to happen in Australia because nuclear is a four letter word in this country, so it will not be happening. So where will the data centers draw on their power? Where will the power come from? And it's going to be the fact that gas will supply the power when the sun isn't shining and the windows are blowing and the batteries have run flat, So it will be gas. And gas is hugely expensive. So who is going to end up paying for all this? It's something that we all should be concerned about and it's questions that really need to be answered. And hopefully with this AI office set up in the Office of the Prime Minister, they will focus on things like that, not the fact that let's just attract these big businesses here and scoop up a little bit of money. The costs that we'll get in building the data centers, providing work and generating revenue. Then, of course all the revenue will head off shore anyway. Jeff says if the Coalition truly want to do the best for Australia, then they should be giving preference to one nation, not fight them, because out of the parties they are most aligned to several policies. Not preferencing them would be political and show they are lying about doing what's best for Australia. Yeah, that's a fair point, Tony says Morning Graham. Not sure why the media keeps pressing on the Libs to step up to win next election. The question should be asked is if we can afford another term of a socialist labor government where small medium businesses and the average Australian living standards are collapsing. Certainly they're the questions that we need to be asking. Data centers, what a nice way to pay off a trillion dollar debt? Another fairy tale. We need to do a lot more research and examining into the feasibility of data centers. While on the surface it might seem to be you know, the cream on the top, we can make a lot of money out of them. We have to provide huge amounts of power and massive amounts of water. Some two ingredients that Australia doesn't have a copious quantity of. What are your thoughts? Eight double two three double double. We got to take a break for news. Then after that would you pay a subscription to get discounts. We're going to chat with Andrew Cozzy Costello about his Cozy's Friends with Benefits.
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Speaker 4: Five double A Mornings with Gram Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Well TV personality Andrew Cosey Costello is launching of Friends with Benefits program for what he says is to simultaneously support locals and small businesses doing it tough. Cozy joins us. Now, Cozy, good morning to you, Ah.
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Speaker 14: The good man, nothing short of an absolute honor mate. Good to chat.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, tell us about this Friends with Benefits program.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 14: Well, since I started the media like twenty five years ago, I come off the pig farm and started working for at originally Fairs AFM and then onto South I with Cozy, I've always loved the fact that when you are in the media, you're able to do stuff, as you know, for your community, for your followers and for your listeners and stuff like that. So I've always really really enjoyed that and in the last few years, obviously his cost of living has got tougher at.
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Speaker 12: Our social media community has grown.
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Speaker 14: I thought, how can I connect businesses in South Australia with a following, which you know online is now about seven hundred and fifty thousand people across the social So I sort of thought of this idea where if I could kind of take some of my followers and turn them into like a membership program where they could get amazing deals into cafes, restaurants, pubs and stuff all across South Australia, that it would be a real goer. And the cool thing is that the businesses don't pay anything for this, so it gives businesses the opportunity to get new customers into their doors, especially at a time when hospitality is under the pump with.
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Speaker 12: Cost of living pressure.
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Speaker 14: So yeah, that's how it all started, and it's taken us two years and last.
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Speaker 12: Night we launched it.
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Speaker 1: So just how does it work?
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Speaker 14: So pretty much, people pay ten bucks a month and they get access to over one hundred deals that are online that can go and get a buy one free STINZLA or a free pint of beer, whatever it might be. Then we have weekly hot office and this is where it actually gets really cool, Like some of those are insane. Like Sunday, we're launching two and a half thousand, two and a half thousand movie tickets for four ninety That's the cheapest in Australia. And it means that a family of four can take their kids to Toy Story for under twenty bucks. Now that's simply unheard of. And these are the things that really excite me. The following week we've got six hundred people be going along out for dinner at the Pancake Kitchen or you can eat pancakes for five bucks. Ahead we're doing Australia's biggest metrey. I've got a six hundred kilo anger steer out at the feed lot at my farm up in the Hills which we're going to get processed and get distributed to our members and stuff. So it really is endless and it's really exciting. I've got a trip for Cambodia with the Crows players to give away next month as well, so it's going to be wild.
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Speaker 1: So how many people would you expect to sign up?
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Speaker 12: Well, mate, we've been blown away initially.
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Speaker 14: I just want to cap it though, like I don't want to have too many people that I can't service them appropriately. So we've got over one hundred businesses that are online as far as deals, so that'll all roll out from next Friday. So it goes live next Friday, and we've already had obviously thousands of people sign up.
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Speaker 12: Like it's blown us away.
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Speaker 14: Like it's been really really successful, I think because people understand that cost of living is just really really hurting households.
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Speaker 12: Now, this is only ten bucks a month.
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Speaker 14: If you sign up for an annual membership, it's only it works out to be six dollars fifty a month or something, so compared to other membership programs in Australia and around the world, it's extremely affordable. And the cool thing is anyone that signs up also gets a twenty dollars Drake's voucher. So we've got two hundred thousand dollars of Drake's vouchers you know, that are wrapped up in this program. That's like, you know, two hundred grand that people are going to be able to walk into Drakes and take off their grocery bill.
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Speaker 12: So we're really excited about things like that. It's now it's huge.
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Speaker 1: So ten dollars subscription for your month. Who gets that.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, we're going to use it.
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Speaker 14: Obviously you can't do it for free because you've got to fund it with staff and there's back end of nineteen night sort of stuff. But basically we're using the membership's money as like buying power. So essentially, I'm going to have a group of South Australians and I don't care what size it is, whether it's one thousand, ten thousand or blood one hundred thousand doesn't bother me. I'll be repped resenting them, using their cash to get them the best deals. Like the average Joe can't just walk in off the street and get movie tickets for four ninety nine unless you're buying in bulk, and that's exactly what we'll be doing. So I will be basically representing our members and using their membership money to offset deals and get them the best deals. Like we're going to start with one hundred holidays down to Malang and the flu Openinsula there for forty nine dollars like that. You just it's insanely cheap. So that's where all the membership money goes. And it's really funny, you know, Like I was reading on Facebook last night. Ye, some people are outraged because there's a cost associated with this. Well, there's a cost associated to do this. You just can't do it for free. So we say to everyone you know, jump on board if you want, or sit on the sidelines and have a sticky beak for a few months and see how it rolls out, because there's nothing like this in South Australia or Australia, and we are going to be servicing the people that sign up in a way that people can't even get their heads around. Like I couldn't be more excited about the potential for this projects. It's absolutely awesome and what it means to small business in South Australia is just incredible.
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Speaker 1: It would be fair to say, though, causey I saw your Facebook site that the overwhelming reaction has been negative.
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Speaker 4: Nah.
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Speaker 14: Mate, The amount of people we've had sign up has been amazing, but of course it's been negativity. Gray, And you've been in the media longer than I have, and you know that anytime someone has a cracket doing something new, it doesn't matter what you do, people will always complain.
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Speaker 12: If McDonald's got to sign.
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Speaker 14: Out the front telling you that they're selling a happy meal, for six bucks. You know, you choose to drive in and get it, or if you don't want to pay for it, then just drive past. Like I say to everyone, you know how the go. But you've also got to remember, for twenty five years here in South Australia, I've been doing everything you know for free, Like we give away millions of dollars of staff and we do heaps for the community and all that sort of stuff which we love. And the bigger we get as a brand South I was because the more we've given away. So there's a direct correlation if you turn the clock back twenty five years ago as to what I was able to do to the community what I'm able to do now. So this is only going to magnify it. So it's as simple as if you don't want to join it, don't join it. But I give you my word that if you're a part of this, then I will bust my clacker to get you the best deals that you're ever going to see anywhere in South Australia. And that's what's going to be happening as of you know, next week when we launch it on Friday, Like people will see so I said last night on a Facebook posts. It's a bit like old Colonel Light when he first designed the plans for Adelaide. You know, everyone was up in arms and he said, you know, stick with me, let me, let me show you my design, and then you know, in the end, of course we end up one the most beautiful cities in the world. So yeah, I don't mind the negativity gram. We're in the media, we kind of get that.
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Speaker 1: Nathan on the text line says, can you ask Cosey if this scheme is very similar to the entertainment book?
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Speaker 12: Oh look at you? How good was the entertainment book back in the day?
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Speaker 14: Remember ripping out the vouchers and going in and going to buy one, get one free.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 14: Look, there's a part of it that is, I guess like that. You know, we've got over one hundred deals available to do exactly that. You know, you buy one, get one free coffee or whatever it might be. So part of them is that. The second part of the program is hot offers, like I mentioned to you there, you know, like it it's things like the you know, we're taking six hundred people to a winery for lunch for five bucks each. So these are weekly offers that will come out that people will be able to access things like we've got a wine that retails recommend a retail price at four fifty for a dozen, like our members will be able to access it delivered to your door for ninety nine bucks. Like these are huge, huge savings, and those are going to be weekly deals. And the third element is competitions. There's like from next Friday when it goes live, there's already ten or a dozen competitions up there, including like I mentioned, a trip to Cambodi with the Crows players, you know, st at Monado Resort and all those kind of things as well. So there's basically those three elements that will encompass the whole program. And you know, like two years of work for our team has gone into this and when people talk about the cost, the reality is unless there was some sort of membership fee, then this program doesn't exist. What I'm saying to the South Australians is, if you've loved what I've done in the last twenty five years in this state, watch it from afar and see how it looks in a couple of months, or jump on board and get stuck into it. And the other thing is you know, everyone that signs up gets a twenty dollars Drake's out here anyway, so you know it's yeah, it's going to be a riff of mate.
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Speaker 1: Now, just before you go, Couzi. Back in twenty twenty two, you received a grant from the Essay Tourism Commission was worth more than four hundred thousand dollars. It was to construct two luxury lodges on your farm and woodside. How popular has that been?
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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's been great. So I've put it this way.
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Speaker 14: It's been a buddy journey like setting anything up like that's been insane. But yeah, it's it's been good, but it's you know, it's been challenging as well.
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Speaker 1: Can people book to stay there? How do they go about that?
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Speaker 12: Yeah?
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Speaker 14: You can just do it through the website and you can go on there and google Harrigate Lane and check it out.
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Speaker 1: Good on your cozie Cozzy Costello with his Friends with Benefit scheme. What do you think? Will you sign up? Have you signed up already? What are your thoughts about it?
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Speaker 4: Eight?
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Speaker 1: Double two three double O double is my number?
00:48:53
Speaker 4: Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Ten thirty one five Double A This Wednesday, fifteenth day of Liars. The fog is lifting, the sun is shining. Turned out to be a beautiful morning. Still a mite chilly out there, about eleven degrees at the moment, but it is warming up and later in the week it's going to be around the eighteen mark, which for this time of year is probably pretty pretty good. Joining us now is Hank Jongan from Services Australia. Hank, good morning to you.
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Speaker 6: Good morning. I'm just listening to your weather with envy. Ah, why is that what you's freezing over here?
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Speaker 1: Well, it's not all that warm, I can tell you, Hank, But every degree makes a difference, doesn't it at this time of year.
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Speaker 6: Yeah. Well, look I was lying in bed this morning and it was only because I knew I had to talk to you that I got out of bed.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be nice to stay in this time of year, an extra a few minutes in bed. Look, Hank, it's always great to have you with us, Probably more even more pertinent at this time of year, because tax time is with us and that creates all sorts of issues for a lot of people. You have some advice for.
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Speaker 6: Us, Yeah, Look, I certainly because many people don't realize that most of the payments that are made by said link are actually taxable income. Now, let me start by saying, because I don't want to unnecessarily alarm people, but if you are on the maximum rate of age pension and you have no other income or income from assets, then you do not need to lodge a tax return. And let me just make that crystal clear, because you're below the threshold. But for others, the first thing you need to do is to work out if you need to lodge a tax return and to get the answer to that. The best place to go is my Gov. And once you at my GUV, search tax time and then answer a few simple questions and it'll give you an indication as to whether or not you need to lodge a tax return and what those next steps are.
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Speaker 1: So you say, just before we go ahead, you'd need a my Gov account, you need to sign up to my gup.
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Speaker 6: You can actually just go into my GUD. I don't necessarily because you just need to go into the website and look for tax time and you'll be able to follow those steps. But my recommendation always, for a number of reasons, my recommendation always is to create a my gov account and link to government services that you use, whether that's Medicare Center link or impact the tax office, because it's just another protection in the area of ensuring that you don't get scammed. But look, the other big tip in relation to tax is if you can afford to wait until late July to lodge a tax return. And the reason I say that is because it's at that point when the tax office will prefill your tax return and they draw on information from employers, bank interests. But in addition to that, centraling payment information is automatically added as well if it's taxable, And what that means is you don't need to check. You just need to make sure that everything is there because the numbers will be correct and you can then simply lodge a tax return. Look, one of the things we know is that people that lodge their tax returns early in July last financial year, about one hundred and forty two thousand people had to go back to amend their original returns because they've left out things or incorrectly transposed numbers. So if you can afford to wait till late July, it makes it simpler.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people think, oh, I get in as quickly as I can, but as you've suggested, not all the information might be there.
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Speaker 6: Exactly, and then you know you've got to go back redo it, and you know it just it just makes life a lot easier.
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Speaker 1: If you have a question for Hank Johnn on social security Social services eight double two three double o double is the time to ring get in early because as we always find out that towards the end of the half hour, the loan lines are overburdened and we just don't get through all the calls. So as tax time are particularly busy year for your time of year for.
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Speaker 6: You, Hank, Oh, look it is. You know, we've been talking about this issue, which is people needing to lodge tax returns. But of course there's also another process that goes on for people that are receiving our family payments like family tax benefit or childcare subsidy, because this is when we do what's called balancing, where we check the income estimates that you've provided us over the course of the financial year against your actual income. In other words, we check what you've information you've provided us against your tax return to determine whether you've been correctly paid. Those two payments and so that is also a very busy time of year in terms of processing all that work. And look, again, it's really important to remember that those income estimates are crucial in ensuring that you don't get overpaid. So what I always suggest is, particularly if you're doing casual work and your hours vary, update your income estimate on a fortnightly basis so that you can avoid being overpaid. Look, one strategy that other people do, I'm not recommending it, but I'm just conscious of the fact many people do it is slightly overestimate your income because that way it ensoys you don't incur an overpayment and it'll all be refunded to you at the end of the financial year.
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Speaker 1: I think if you do overpay, underpay make the mistake. Are people given time to make the payments back?
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Speaker 4: Oh?
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Speaker 6: Look absolutely with all centling payments. If you are overpaid, then we will negotiate with you reasonable repayment arrangements. And when I say reasonable, I mean that because of course, the last thing we want to do is create further hardship by forcing you to make significant repayments on any debt that you've incurred. So again, remember, if you receive a letter from US saying you've been overpaid. You know, the first step is that we will ask for a full refund, but if you're not able to do that, the letter will clearly outline how to contact us and you can negotiate with us for suitable repayment arrangements.
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Speaker 1: If you have a question for Services or Stralia General Manager Hank John and now's the time, ring eight double two three double From the text line Mark says, is the disability support pension for a single person paid in full no supplementary income above or below? What defines the poverty line?
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Speaker 6: Thanks as Mark, Look, I can't answer that question because it's been a while since I've checked to see what the poverty line is. I do know that generally all our payments are above the poverty line. There've been actions by the government over the past couple of years to ensure a range of increases to make sure that is the case. I don't have the figures, unfortunately in front of me. But because that's quite a different issue to the discussion we're having, which is about tax and tax thresholds.
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Speaker 1: Let's take a call Jason, good morning. You have a question for.
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Speaker 15: Hank Hey, Hank, my parents on the age pension and they've always been doing Center pay for their bills, which is great, but Telsa's now that they don't do that anymore. Are you aware of that?
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Speaker 6: That's the first I've heard of it, Jason. Look, i'd be surprised if that's the case. However, I won't put myself into further trouble by venturing down the track of saying no, no, I don't think that's right, Jason. Well, I'll do is. I'll get an answer for you, and we'll contact Graham's producer and do an answer. I'm sorry I didn't hear that.
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Speaker 15: If that's true that Tilchia doesn't do anymore, what about the money that's coming out of my parents' pension, does it or do they just stop and stays in their pension or that still go out somewhere alone.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, no, it would stop. But look, to be honest, Jason, this is the first I've heard of this, and you know I can't imagine that anyway. Look, we'll get you an answer, and I'll we'll get the word to the producer and hopefully before this segment ends, I'll have an answer for you.
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Speaker 15: Thanks.
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Speaker 1: For that, and thanks for call Jason eight double two three double o double if you have a question or Hank Johnan, now is the time to ring another from the text line for you, Hank. Why do disability pensioners have to report that they're going overseas first? And why are they only allowed four weeks in enrolling here? Why can't we report this online? Oh?
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Speaker 6: Look, the capability simply isn't there for disability support pensioners to report travel overseas. Plus, we often have more questions that we need to ask. For example, if you're going overseas for approved treatment, then the four weeklimit wouldn't apply. That's why we need to have a discussion with you in relation to that. So and look in terms of why disability support pensioners can only go overseas for a four week period in any twelve month period, that's because it's simply the law. You know, that's been a longstanding policy that's been in place. There are some exemptions, but after a disability support pension overseas more than four weeks, it will have an impact on their payments. Now, let me just say for other listeners, those rules do not apply to age pension in relation to age pension, you can stay overseas for a period of up to six weeks without it affecting your pension. And in fact, you can travel a number of times over any twelve month period and each time you can remain for up to six weeks without it affecting your pension. Now, the difference with disability support, of course, is because we're talking about people with just stabilities. We're talking about people that may require treatment, et cetera. And that's why I think the rules are different.
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's take another call to Hope Valleys Stewart. Good morning, Stuart, go ahead, I thank you.
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Speaker 16: That vice you're giving about income and taxation is it's excellent. I started a part time job last year and also had something to link components of my income, and I just asked our pay people to take an.
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Speaker 17: Extra twenty five dollars.
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Speaker 16: I'll pay out and send it to the tax officer, and when comes with combined.
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Speaker 17: To tax, I got smaller attack.
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Speaker 6: Yes, Stuart, that's a really good thing that you've done by paying the additional tax. You know, on the assumption that knowing that the central link payment is taxable. The other alternative you could have taken up Stewart was to have us take deductions out of your payment directly. In other words, if you're receiving age pension, we could take out fortnitey deductions from your age pension at your request. We don't do it automatically. And as you've already indicated, what that does is that less thans the impact at the end of the financial year.
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Speaker 17: Link did off of me that that did offer me that that can't do that, But I just thought there's one lot of tax going from my pay. It was just easier to increase that a little. But either way it would work.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, Stuart, your choice completely gone.
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Speaker 1: Stuart, thanks for call eight double two three double O double. We have a question for Hank Johnman. Now's the time time to call eight double two three double O double.
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Speaker 4: O vive double A morning with Graham, goodings.
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Speaker 1: And a very good morning to you on this Wednesday morning. We have Hank gone from Services Australia to answer your questions on eight double two to three double O double O and let's take a call from Steve and Birkenhead. Steve, you have a question for Hank.
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Speaker 18: Yes, sir, good morning gentlemen. Hank back in March, I receive a notification per side increase in age pension and on this form says the information is calculating your payments of your TATO assets which was the X amount, and and your income which is X amount. Now I haven't worked for over a year, so I'm just a little bit confused what the annual income is. Would that be the depiction I'm receiving or some other that.
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Speaker 6: Would relate to income from your investments.
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 6: Obviously, if you've got a rental property, it's whatever income it derived. If you've got shares, that could be that intro that income, because what we do is we apply a deeming rate to all investments, and that is what that income would indicate. Look, if you've got any concerns about that impact, I'll go a step extra. If you're happy to stay on the line, Steve and provide your details to the producer, then I can get someone to contact you in the next day or two and we'll just clarify what that income is.
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Speaker 18: Okay, hold the.
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Speaker 1: Line, let's move on to Angelo. Nor Angelo.
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Speaker 19: Here you go.
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Speaker 20: The go ahead that is in I got about my wife and there right, I'm gonna amploy it stop seeing that out.
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Speaker 13: And the last couple of years a buddle my wife full time. She doesn't work.
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Speaker 20: She's been pre ill to get care allowances to that or not.
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Speaker 6: There are two payments that potentially could be applicable here. The first one is care allowance now. Care allowance is around one hundred and sixty dollars a fortnight. It's a top up payment to help you with the cost of things like medications, you know, the extra cost of petrol taking you out to the doctor. And essentially what it's about is providing you a bit of extra income to help cope if you're looking after someone on a full time basis. So that's allowance. The other payment is care payment now it is a full income support payment. It's paid at the same rate as age pension and disability support pension. In order to receive that payment, you've got to providing full time care and attention, which a sounds as though you have, but then the question relates to the degree to which your wife is suffering a disability. So look, it's really important for you to have a look at our website and you'll find on the very front page there's a box called health and disability. And if you look there and you look for care of payment, you'll find all of the eligibility criteria there and you may need you may want to consider claiming. Now you will be required to provide us with medical evidence in relation to your wife in order to support your claim. So it's important to talk to your doctor and any specialist first. Oh God, do that, okay, Thank you, Good on, Angela.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for call eight double two three, double o double the number to ring to speak with to Hank John from Services on Stator. Bill has called that number. He's on the line now, Bill, go ahead.
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Speaker 16: Oh, good morning to both.
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Speaker 13: Good morning Graham, Good morning Hank.
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Speaker 6: I just want to give.
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Speaker 21: A bouquet to your people. Quite a few years ago I applied for the age pension. Took all my stuff down to Glenhilg and the lady went through it all and she said, oh, you've gone to provide your financial statements.
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Speaker 16: And I said oh, and she said, don't worry about it.
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Speaker 13: We'll keep all this.
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Speaker 21: Here for you write for you to come back. I came back and got it and got the pension, and I used to go to Henley Beach and I said to them that Henley Beach Road. There there was a sind A link and I said to them, oh, is it all right if I go to the glennil one And they said, yes, we thought you came here just because you liked this, and so I've always found them so helpful, professional and courteous.
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Speaker 6: Thank you very much.
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Speaker 1: Good on your bill, Bill.
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Speaker 6: I really appreciate that call, as you can appreciate, you know, by me coming onto this sort of program. Of course, if people have got issues that they need help with, they do contact us, and I do what I can to try and help people resolve the situation. But what's forgotten is that there are tens of thousands of people every week that engage with us in the way that bill is outlined, where there's no hassles, where we treat our customers exactly as they would expect to be treated, and we treat them with courtesy and requit and respect. So I really appreciate that bill. We'll send a note to the manager of both those officers, including the one you've dumped, and let them know how pleased you were with that service. Now, Graham, if I can can we answer Jason's question about Telstra sure Telstra is a registered center pay business, so you can use them to pay to pay your Telstra bills, but you can't use it to buy a phone or other equipment. It is only available to pay your phone bills. So Jason, if you want to call back and leave your details with the producer, will do what we can to solve this problem for you, although I think the solution lies with you talking to Telstra again.
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Speaker 1: Excellent. Hopefully you're listening Jason, and that's provided the information you need. Steve, good morning, Oh.
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Speaker 22: Good morning, Graham. I've only just switched on the listening to don't listen to the phone. We've been having trouble with Medicare, but I don't think I think I recognize Hank k Youngin's voice there. Hank doesn't look after Medicare, does he?
01:08:56
Speaker 6: Yes? I do?
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Speaker 22: Oh you do, Hank. I've had a terrible experience with Medycare. My wife's been in hospital, she had to have surgery. We put in a two way Medicare claim form, and of course you would appreciate that Medicare pay certain benefits, and then my health fone private health fund then had to had to then then had to do their part. I've just found out after all this time and about three phone calls to Medicare and one to a service center this morning who had limited Medicare expertise, so they gave me a phone number the ring and I've just finally got off the phone, and then after about an hour and they've apologized they forgot to send the two way form for my private health fund's portion when I was down and I'm not going to mention the center. They said, do I need to cont Hank youngin about this? And they said, no, you need to speak to Albo. So it sounds as though staff are not being replaced from what I can gather, Hank, So that's really disappointing considering the government keep telling us that they're putting on all this extra staff. So I'm really really disappointed with that. I won't go into the private details, but to me, I really needed you to hear that, And it sounds as though it's not necessarily your problem, but it's a government problem, and I don't expect you to answer that, But I just think the service has been terrible unfortunately for us, Hank.
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Speaker 6: Steve, This is not a government problem. From what you're saying, it sounds as though we've let you down in relation to your claim, particularly you know, you being told that we've forgot to process the part of it. Steve, I'm happy to look into this if you want me to hopefully been resolved for you. I'm really concerned about some of the experiences that you've had. Firstly that the fact that a claim has been formed lost and secondly, you know, this sort of comment that was made in relation to you know, don't talk to Hank, you know, talk elsewhere. I just find that completely unacceptable. But Steve, there is another issue here too, and that is clearly the specialists that you're dealing with are not using the technology that's available. What you'll find is that ninety percent of specialists and certainly nearly all medical practitioners now use our online services, which means that you don't have to go to the inconvenience of lodging, pay per forms with us and then us submitting it to your private health insurance. These days, all of that is in an automated fashion. Could I suggest next time you see you specialists, you talk to the receptionist there to just find out whether they're not using that technology, because trust me, it'll just streamline the process.
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Speaker 1: Times, just one more called Dennis, go ahead, I hate We.
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Speaker 7: Just saw our principal house and it bake you. We've got a bit of money for it, and we told them, we told them that command. All we want paid out is the house we're moving into, which is a retirement village, and a new car, and they feed and the bank took it. I got an invesion probably, and then they took out one hundred and nine thousand, and that we never even told them to do that. Okay, now I might I come deserve me our as on those and some of my aged psions.
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Speaker 6: Well, look again, it's difficult for me to answer this over the phone, but let me just put it to you this way. If you had a house that you sold for let's say five hundred thousand, and you've bought a new home for let's say two hundred thousand and a car for fifty thousand dollars, you're then left with an asset of one hundred and fifty thousand dollars, which we have to take into account in because it's money that is available to you in the bank and it is an asset. So I'm wondering if that's what's happened. I'm happy to have a look at your situation, and if you want to leave your details with the producer, I'll get someone to contact you and we'll work it through with you and explain the situation. If I can just say more generally, if you're in receipt of an age pension and you do intend to downsize or sell your property, then it's really important to let us know in advance what your intentions are. And the reason for that is if you intend to sell and buy, then we can exempt the money that you intend to buy a new property with from the assets test. The other thing is that it's really important to understand what the implications of these sorts of financial decisions are, and I would always recommend that you contact an excellent service that we run called the Financial Information Service. This is a service where we have specialists that can look at your situation and tell you what the impact of your financial decisions will be on your pension. And let's face that there are many points in your life where this could be happening, and I strongly urge you to talk to them in this situation. So the number for them to make an appointment is one, three, two, three double zero one three two three double zero. When you're prompted about the reason for your call, say financial information service, You'll then be put through to a line where you can make an appointment over the phone or face to face. And I strongly urge people to do that when you face with these sorts of decisions.
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Speaker 1: Hank always great advice, greater chat. We'll speak with you again in about a month's time. Height double two to three double o doublo is the number to ring back after the news.
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Speaker 4: Five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: It's ten past eleven five double A the final hour of the show. Still plenty of time for you to take part. Give us a call. In fact, we have a double pass to Into the Woods Majesty's Theater to give away experience the music, the magic and the mystery Into the Woods four shows only at a Majesty's Theater August twenty two to twenty nine. You can book now through State Opera Sartha Strata and we'll pick a random caller between now and midday. It could be you. Eight double two to three double O DOUBLEO is that number. It's always sad when we hear about the closing or iconic Adelaide landmark the Purple Penny in Mawson Lakes. It's one of Adelaide's only dedicated collectible and antique coin dealers. Well, they'd they're going to close their doors next month. The owner is Mark. He joins us Now, Mark, good morning to you.
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Speaker 10: Hello Graham, thank you for having us all Ah.
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Speaker 1: Why have you decided to shut the doors?
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Speaker 10: Look, it was always planned. We've been planning it for sort of about fifteen years or so, to retire when I turned fifty five, and I turned fifty five several months ago, and the time has come.
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Speaker 1: Would you miss it?
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Speaker 12: I will?
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Speaker 10: I missed the people. The people are my favorite part of the job we have I like to consider as my friends. And not being able to come in here and talk to my friends and swap coin collecting stories and ask them about the day, I will miss that definitely.
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Speaker 1: What attracted you do coin collecting in the first place.
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Speaker 10: Well, I first got started when my son was born in two thousand and three, and it sort of exploded out of control since then. But what I really love these days is the historical connection between coins and.
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Speaker 23: Our past.
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Speaker 10: I love being able to hold a two thousand year old Greek coin in my hands, and just think about all the hands that have passed through and how it managed to get into a shop in Wason Lakes.
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Speaker 1: We lived very much in the digital world. As the attitude towards collect coin collection and coin collectors changed in your time, yeah it has.
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Speaker 10: Coin collecting has moved more into collecting modern products, and people said as a way of investing, and they'll it's modern coin products and then trade them by various social media channels. So that's certainly been a huge change in the last five or ten years.
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Speaker 1: What sort of people are attracted to coin collection.
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Speaker 10: Well, there's people like me are interested in the historical side of things. There's people who just like collecting shiny things, and then there's people who consider it to be an investment.
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Speaker 8: And then there's.
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Speaker 10: People who a very common reason to collect coins is to put together sets of coins to pass down to children or grandchildren.
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people would say, you know, the only interesting coin collection is if you get something that's really rare and valuable. But people are obviously collecting them for other reasons than that.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 10: Everyone popes to see the rare and valuable thing. But I see more coins in a week probably than most people would see in just about their entire lives, and they wouldn't see more than one genuinely rare thing every three or four years.
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Speaker 1: Is that right?
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Speaker 21: Yes?
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Speaker 1: Because we hear about certain certain coins and they're an imperfection? Is that what it is that makes a coin distinct and worth something because it has been printed with an imperfection or something like that?
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Speaker 10: Absolutely, that is a great interest to people. Errors are easy to look at, easy to understand. It's easy to see what's gone wrong for them, and it's always a romantic notion that maybe when you flip over your twenty cent piece and you change and it's got some massive error on it, and you can sell it for hundreds or thousands of dollars, and that's sense of the treasure hunt that people love.
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Speaker 1: Are these imperfections readily obvious or do you really have to be looking out for them?
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Speaker 10: The readily obvious ones are the valuable ones. So you know, you might see a dollar coin that struck on a ten cent piece, or a two dollar coin that has the color applied to the wrong side. Generally, the errors that are easy to understand are the ones that are worth more money.
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Speaker 1: So people, I mean people, we're heading towards a cashless society. And that's an argument for another day. But the fewer people are carrying a pocket full of coins around with them. But is it worthwhile when we get the collection of coins just to take a look at them and try and just see if there's anything valuable, something that we might be missing.
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Speaker 10: Absolutely, that's called noodle and Graham. There's lots of people that noodle through change looking for little errors and varieties and perhaps low linkage years. And I call it a bit of a gateway into coin collecting. It's a way to get interested in collecting, to learn about it and then perhaps move on to medieval coins or ancient coins or Australian predecimal coins.
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Speaker 1: Have has the technology improved over the years so that imperfections and impurities and strange aspects of coins is becoming rareer?
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Speaker 10: Yeah, looks the quality control that the mint has definitely improved. We see a lot more errors on pennies and half pennies and shillings and things like that than what we do on modern coin. Suppose certainly the quality control at the mint has improved.
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Speaker 15: Over the years.
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Speaker 1: I remember not that long ago, my wife saw something about something on a fifty cent coin that could be worth something, and she every time she sees a fifty cent coin now she looks at it with a fine toothcomb. What should we look for, and well, say, a fifty cent coin.
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Speaker 10: Fifty cent coins, I'd be looking for ones that don't have the usual twelve sides, because every now and again fifty cent blanks have been mixed up with blanks from other countries, all right, very occasionally that happens. I'd be looking for twenty ten fifty cent coin with a coat of arms on the reverse. They were some of those were struck incorrectly, so the coen's head is not the right way up when you rotate the design around. And then I'd always be looking out for nineteen sixty six fifty cent pieces, which are eighty percent silver. They're round, so they don't have the twelve sides, but you often see them in collections of fifty cent pieces, and they'll sort of slipped through. People won't notice that they're a different shape, but they've got silver and they're worth twenty five or thirty dollars.
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Speaker 1: Yay, oh, right, what's the most expensive coin that you've come across.
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Speaker 10: We've had a couple of nineteen thirty pennies coming here, which is the lowest vintage penny, and they might be worth fifteen or twenty thousand dollars.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 23: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Look, when we talked about doing having a chat with you, the first thing I thought of was, oh, nineteen thirty pennies, because I think everybody as at some stage heard a story about you know, a nineteen thirty penny is really worth something and they still are.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, they are.
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Speaker 10: They were in the nineteen sixties when we change over to decimal currency, they became absolutely mythical and people of your generation and press my generation have all heard of the nineteen thirty penny. It's easily the most famous Australian coin.
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Speaker 1: You've got a lot of history what you've done, and you know the coins that have passed through your hand, and you've admitted to the fact that you're going to miss that sort of thing. Is coin collecting a dying art, you know? Or people still collecting coins at the same level they always have.
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Speaker 10: Graham when we open, I mean, we've been trading for almost twenty years and we've been trading out of the shop for the last seven When we opened, we thought that, you know, it might be a nice, little quiet way of leading into retirement. But I can tell you every year since we opened it has got busier and busier, right, and the Holly is as stealthy as it's ever been. It's perhaps people are switching to other types of coins, but there are still new coin collectors and it's really heartening to see the younger generation collecting coins.
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Speaker 1: What would you say to someone say, who's thinking, Oh, I wouldn't mind starting a coin collection. Where do you start? What do you do?
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Speaker 10: I always tell people to collect what interests them, or collect what they love. If you collect what interests you and collect what you love, then it becomes a potentially a lifetime bobby. So, you know, if you're interested in history, Roman history, Australian history, English history, whatever it happens to be, you know, try and find a connection between what you're interested in and coins of that era.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I guess the beauty of the Internet these days is that, you know, the source of information is only only a computer away.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's never been easier, It's never been easier. We've had a large numismatic library or printed library. But over the last twenty years or so that we've been doing this, we will dip into that less and less because more and more information is available online.
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Speaker 1: Now. Mark, before I let you go, William on the text line and said, Hi Graham, can you please ask your guest will the blue two dollar coin pack become collectible?
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Speaker 10: Well, they already are collectible, and while bluey is popular amongst families, I would suggest that they will remain collectible. Perhaps in forty years time we might look back and wonder who blue is and they won't be as popular is.
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Speaker 22: What they are now.
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Speaker 1: And Peter wants to know a two dollar coin with a poppy is it worth anything?
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Speaker 10: So in twenty twelve, the Mint released two types of poppies. They released one that just has a gold it's just a normal gold colored to dollar coin with a copy on it. There's also one that was released through the RSL which has a red colored poppy on the reverse. There definitely worth something. Who were three hundred dollars? Was also one released in twenty eighteen which has a poppy on it.
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Speaker 24: And those.
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Speaker 10: Look there were something to collectors, but to coin shops they're not worth a lot.
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Speaker 1: Mark, it's great to chat with you. I'm sorry to hear that The Purple Penny will be no longer, but I'm sure you'll keep up your love and your interest of coin collecting.
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Speaker 10: Well, thank you Graham, thanks for having us on, and thanks to real listeners.
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Speaker 1: That's Mark from The Purple Penny shutting down. Are you a coin collector? I think as a kid for a little while, I did a little bit of coin collecting, but it got because I was expecting to find and make my fortune over night. Just didn't quite work out that way. But what are you into collecting coins? Stamps, beer can holders, stubby holders. I know someone who's a stubby hon hold a collector. Oh and Sam's just walked into the studio. Sam, you look like this kind of guy. I be a stubby hold a collector.
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Speaker 25: Well, yes, I do have a collection of stubby holders, so whenever I do go somewhere, I'll try to pick one up. But when I was younger, I went through a real phase of collecting business cards.
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Speaker 1: Oh seriously, yeah.
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Speaker 25: And then it got to a point where my mom's mum, if she'd been anywhere, would collect business cards. And I had this whole. I can't tell you why or how it started, but I started collecting business cards at about age twelve. I don't know where they are now. I had to stack them and it was like a good contact book. I should have kept them for now. But business cards, well, that's an odd one.
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Speaker 1: That is an odd one. Who's got the weirdest and most bizarre collection? What have you collected over the years? Sam's is business cards? Strange? There you go. It takes all kinds. Tell us your favorite collection or the collection that you've you've heard about somebody collecting bizarre things that might be worth something one day, or just curios that you can hang on the shelf, put on a put on the wall. Eight double two three double double Backshordan.
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Speaker 4: Five double A. Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Collecting. When have we started here? Andrew says, as a ten year old, I used to cut out and collect the weather satellite photos from the back of the newspaper. I had hundreds, but I never did anything with Hi Graham. I collect sand. I have one hundred and seventy small jars of sand from around Austrata and overseas. Nearly all are from beaches. I have visited god On you warrant collecting sand cordon all on a create your own sandpit. I was going to collect kisses from as many women as possible. All I managed to collect were slaps. Okay, dear Idea, and Jim says, I know what they call them, are talking about going to the theater and getting a program. I call it, well, let's call it a program. I know what they call them, Graham then book things your wife buys, they call them junk. Thank you for that, Jim, Tom Kutson turnus used to collect traffic fines, says Daryl. We won't go there. What have you collected over the years? Have you collected anything of interest?
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Speaker 4: Eight?
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Speaker 1: Double two three double o double oh, it's the number to ring, dear Ada, the things that we collect. I'd like to know your thoughts and do you have what is or is what is the most unusual collectors item that you've heard of? What is the most dangerous collectors item that you have? Or what is the most benign or the most boring? People collect spoons? What about those spoons that you go all around the or snow globes. Snow globes were huge, and I think if I'm my memory serves a collect correctly. Going back to the days of Channel seven or Channel ten newsroom, we had a whole desk covered with snow globes. Why, I don't know. Collections a strange things, A double two three, double double. If you'd like to contribute to our collection. As a parent, I think we all have ideas of bringing up kids. The thing is with being a parent, you don't need a license. You just all of a sudden you can do it. So you have kids, and then you always got plenty of advice. People tell you how to bring up kids. But are we doing it the right way? Are modern day parents any better or worse than past day parents? Are modern day parents bringing up their kids not so much as their children, but as their friends? Is it right? Is it wrong? The Parenting Paradox has been written by Jenny Brown, who joins us, Nah, Jenny, good morning to you.
01:29:54
Speaker 23: Good morning or is it afternoon? We're just sneaking into afternoon?
01:29:58
Speaker 1: Oh you well, good afternoon to you, Good morning to us. We're on the cusp.
01:30:02
Speaker 23: Ah okay, I'm here in Sydney right Well, that's lovely bringing up children?
01:30:08
Speaker 1: Is it more difficult that it was? Twenty thirty, forty years ago.
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Speaker 23: Well, I think parenting has always been an anxious job. We are naturally very protective as parents, but I think that modern day parenting has flipped into overprotection over worry. And what I am trying to do in writing this book is helping parents get out of their worry cycle and get a little calmer and rediscover what's in their control to add, just in the way they're relating to their kids, especially the children that trigger their worries the most.
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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot more to worry about, it would appear these days. I'm old enough to remember the generation where you know, the kids would go out to play and their parents would let them go off down the street or next door and you know, next neighborhood. When the street lights come on, make sure you're home. You know, you could ride your bike to another suburb. Nobody seemed to worry all that much. But parents wouldn't do that. I as a parent, would not allow my children to just roam the streets for hour after hour and come home when it got dark. You know, you want to know where they were. Why has that changed?
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Speaker 23: Yeah, Well, there's this term called safety. Isn't that's been talked about. We've become much more risk averse as parents. Parents are very careful about not letting their children have much unsupervised time, which is different to my childhood as well, and I think that this is an issue that has added to the burden that parents carry and that children have less opportunity and less space to have free play vise time. Doesn't mean that parents completely should neglect their children and let them roam into unsafe areas, but parents can be helped to learn to step back a bit more, give their children space to have the more opportunity to initiate their play, to initiate their socializing. It is something I write about is just how parenting has become professionalized. We outsource a lot of.
01:32:30
Speaker 11: It to experts.
01:32:31
Speaker 23: We involve children in a lot of extracurricular activities. And it's great for every parent listening to just pause for a moment and think how much of my children's life is supervised and structured by adults rather than space where they can grow their own resourcefulness, their imagination. So it's one of the really useful questions to pause and ask.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we all would like to say our children, you know, bloom and blossom and grow. That we have that fear that there are predators out there, and now with social media, that's something that many of us didn't have to worry about. But social media is there. Parents have to be ever vigilant, don't they.
01:33:19
Speaker 23: They do, And we need to be careful about the messaging that we get on social media and media in general, because our current social media echo chambers are looking for people to link in, so they're sensationalized. Their stories are the dramatic ones. It's fuel parents' fears. And actually our society is much safer than it's ever been, but we don't hear about that. We hear about all the things, all the dangers, all the things that go wrong. So I mean, there are some concerning things that happen in society, and social media has been an area where children are being targeted, and that's something I'm glad that our country is addressing and supporting parents on with age limits on access. But over all the world is actually safer for children than it has been in decades gone by. Wow. And I think.
01:34:23
Speaker 2: If we.
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Speaker 23: Don't want a parent out of fear, our kids pick up on that. We become too intense they react to being monitored and protected, and that doesn't bring out the best in our children.
01:34:43
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I mean going back to my childhood. You know, we went out and made mud pies, We drank out of the hose, you know, we rolled around with a dog. And current day parents are you know, over sanitizing. Be careful, don't touch that, you know, to the point of the kids sort of appear to be losing that will to explore, to adventure.
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Speaker 23: Yeah, I think that's true. We don't want to oversentimentalize the childhood of decades gone by. It had its strength and its weaknesses. But what I see current parents doing is they are trying to correct what they see as their parents' lack of availability, and they're going in the other direction. So many modern parents are saying, I'm going to be there for my child. I'm going to throw everything at my child. I want my child to be happy. I want to give them what I feel my parents didn't give me. And sadly it is backfiring. It comes from a good place, but parents are seeing that the more they give to their children, they seem to still get stuck. And that's why I've written before the parenting paradox to show parents that you can return to balance. And the key message is, and this is the paradox, that rather than try and give our children everything we think they need, we put our energy into changing ourselves as parents, working out how we can respond differently to our children. And that's where parents can recover hope. So the other piece that I have out there is the Parent Hope Project. People can look that up as well, just helping parents recover their confidence by putting their energy into what they can change rather than the modern day scriptive parenting, which is you make a project out of trying to shape and change your child and it doesn't work. I think parents can recognize that, but I don't want parents to be feeling any more guilt. Last that's lusking parents need. They need to be able to recover their job description and their identity, and that's what I'm aiming to put out there for parents.
01:37:12
Speaker 1: Do you think many parents are trying to be more of a friend to their children than to act as a parent.
01:37:20
Speaker 23: Well, the research is showing that the most the popular goal that parents report for their kids is that they are happy. And on the surface, that seems like a good thing, but the trap of wanting happy children is one that doesn't face the realities of life and building resilience required dealing with unhappiness. But I do think the idea of parents wanting their children to always be happy has moving into accommodating to them doing whatever they can do to relieve discs dress and that can look like just always being a friend to their child rather than a leader for their child. And parent leadership is really important to recover. Not its loving leadership, not intense authoritarian leadership, but the kind of leadership that knows when to say no, I'm not willing to give you that right now, or I'm not willing to drop everything to solve that problem for you. That kind of leadership that help children realize that they're not the center of the universe. They're important and they're precious, but they need to learn in the world that they've got to make space for other people as well. We don't want entitled children. We want responsible children, don't we, Jenny.
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Speaker 1: It's not easy being a parent it Oh no, it's hard, very difficult.
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Speaker 23: Yeah, And we want parents to recover the joy of parenting because the stats are saying that parents are more stressed than ever, it's really a public health issue the level of stress that parents are reporting, and we want them to recover the pleasures and the joy of raising the next generation. And I think one of the important ways to do that is to stop trying to be the perfect parent, to stop trying to have the perfect child, to regain a sense of here's how I can bring my best to my child, and yes, to recover that sense of this is a privilege. We don't want it to be this impossible, perfect project that is unachievable. And not only that I see in my working mental health and child mental health over the years that paradoxically, the more that people throw their attention at their children overdo it with their children, the more their children struggle to flourish and develop their own resources. But there is a way to turn that around.
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Speaker 1: There really is, doctor Jenny Brown, thanks so much of your time, author of The Parenting Paradox. The joys of being a parent just one of the great delights in life to bring up children and see them flourish, But it can be a tough job. Has parenting changed over the time as you as a parent then a grandparent, have you seen your kids bringing up their kids differently than you brought up them. They learnt from your errors. I'd like to know your thought. It's eight double two three double do double.
01:40:53
Speaker 4: Doh five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
01:40:57
Speaker 1: We've covered an awful lot of territory today, haven't we? Collectors, children, par prices, you name it from the knees Room. In fact, on the text line, Mel says Malasha, this is what about collecting experiences. I go to ikeas and hard rock cafes all over the world. I've been to hard rocks in Dublin, Dubai, New York, Berlin, London, et cetera. Yeah, I can handle Mel. I'm going to the hard rock cafes terrific. Going to Ikeas all over the world would not totally excite me. But to each his own, somebody says, I have a big collection of phone cards. They were used to call overseas in phone boxes. Let's say a call John, good morning, Oh.
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Speaker 24: Hi Gram that lady that you've just had on was it Mary? She made so much sense. Look, I'm divorced, have been for years. My girl was five years old when we split up, and she has watched what happened with us too. And is determined not to let it happen to her children, which she has too, and she has gone into what they call helicopter parents, where they're just smothering their children with kindness. But what's happened is I'm estranged from my two grandchildren because my daughter thinks I'm a threat or a danger in some way and I might influence them in some bad ways. So it's such a shame. It's such a shame.
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Speaker 20: But I just want to warn a lot of these young mothers and please don't estrange your children from their grandparents, because you are doing them a great disservice if you do.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's good advice. John. The role of grandparents cannot be overstated. It's so important. I'm not just talking about babysitting, but as role models, they're there. The grandparents provide so much stability in life. I remember growing up as a young child, my maternal grandmother was, you know, a rock in my life, a rock in my existence, and a wonderful person. My grandfather's were unique characters, And yeah, the grandparents play a pretty vital role, no question about that. Fred says, what I have noticed these days, especially teenage children, they feel that they are entitled, and part of that I think is the parent's fault, justin opinion. Thank you for that, Fred Rayman. You want to talk about collections. What do you collect?
01:43:26
Speaker 19: Yeah, Graham, I'm a collector, but my wife has another name for it. I think you know the word.
01:43:32
Speaker 7: Hoarder.
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Speaker 19: Of course. I've collected Sydney two thousand Olympic pins badgers, and on the topic of hard rock cafes the experience there, I've collected and traded hard rock cafe pins.
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Speaker 6: Right.
01:43:46
Speaker 8: I've also traveled a.
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Speaker 19: Lot over the years for work, and I've got a large collection of airline boarding passes and sick bags.
01:43:56
Speaker 1: Sick bags. I can understand the airline boarding passes because that would sort of conjure up memories of wonderful travel, but sick bags not.
01:44:05
Speaker 19: So much also wonderful travel because I haven't used them, ha ha. Well, and some of them have very nice logos and pictures on them.
01:44:14
Speaker 1: So and the collection that's wonderful. Good on your ram. And I'm pleased to hear that they were sick bags that were not actually used. People collect them amazing things, Hi, Graham. I had a tenant who like to collect everything. It took two months to clear away and clean up. Good on your Mick, Hi Gramm. I used to collect match boxes and coasters many minions ago, until I found out there were they were flammable and insurance would not pay if they caused a fire. I got rid of them in a hurry. Good on your Churi, Leith Forrest. Are you a collector of any not? Really?
01:44:46
Speaker 26: Just disappointment with my football team? Probably just collect tears.
01:44:50
Speaker 1: To them up. Collect a new footy team? You ever thought come on now?
01:44:54
Speaker 26: No, no, no, I wish i'd I've got some Like most people, you've got some things. I collect the odd You know, when when Winks won races and there were like one off cans of beer, I would collect that.
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Speaker 1: I don't know why. To be honest, I mean I think it. To be a real collect you've got to be passionate about it. You don't sort of say, oh, well there's a set of ten, but I've got three.
01:45:15
Speaker 26: You know when Coke put out the bottles with people's names on them, like I've got the kids because I thought that might be cute.
01:45:20
Speaker 1: But I don't know, I sort of yeah, the enthusdaysm wains after a while you think I've got to go out and buy some more of those footy cars.
01:45:28
Speaker 26: But I do it my people that do it. But I think of the money when I see those people that have the Lago collections, you know, and they have lego rooms and they glue it together because it's not too undone, or.
01:45:38
Speaker 1: A Star Wars collection. They've got all the figurines.
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Speaker 26: And light sabers and their Darth Vader masks on them. But to you, there's a lot of money that goes into it. But if it brings some joy.
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Speaker 1: Exactly, far be it from us too.
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Speaker 26: Did you collect anything from the Crows ninety seven to ninety eight? Was there any sort of advertiser coin or yeah, I got the WEG poster those got a couple of those. Funny story and this I think relates to a Carlton Grand Final at the end of the game. You know, the WEG posters were for sale outside yep.
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Speaker 1: And we're all leaving and this this guy on crutches was going and he lined up the poster and he bought the poster. It was a Collingwood poster, right, and isn't that lovely? His footy teams won and he threw it on the ground and jumped up and down on it.
01:46:32
Speaker 26: So they lost. So it's probably nineteen seventy when the Pies were up by seven goals and they lost.
01:46:37
Speaker 1: That was it. I was there, one hundred and ten thousand people. That's it.
01:46:40
Speaker 26: The Cezalenko U beauty mark. Yeah yeah, yeah, but I so he's already drawing the cartoon thinking they'll win.
01:46:47
Speaker 1: Yeah wow, yeah, but that's right. So strange things. What have you got?
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Speaker 12: Those?
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Speaker 26: Coming up after one o'clock. One of those issues that people just get really irritated with. There are experts who are suggesting, now we shouldn't use the frame is good boy or good girl because it should be gender neutral. So when Will was shooting all those threes playing basketball, now you're not allowed to say, good boy, nice shot.
01:47:10
Speaker 1: I don't think it ever happened. He shot a three.
01:47:11
Speaker 26: But anyway, that is something that people are pushing. So we're going to talk about that. Whether that's just taking it too far. When it comes to this issue of boys and girls and letting them be themselves, he's going to be offended if one hundred percent I know, and.
01:47:24
Speaker 1: If someone is trans or different, yeah, well you wouldn't be calling that good luck to them.
01:47:29
Speaker 26: But if you're a six year old daughter and you shoot your first goal in netball, I'm probably going to say, good girl, well done, congratulations. So we'll talking about that, and the Wiggles are on the show. We've got a family pastor have you gone to a Wiggle show with your grandkid yet?
01:47:44
Speaker 1: I haven't been, but Eve has taken our kids to the Wiggles and our eldest granddaughter, ELDI got to meet Simon. I think it was Red boat to it the good guys and yeah he is. He is up there on the pedestal.
01:47:57
Speaker 26: If you're a parent or a grandparent, you know how hard tickets to get the year. Later in the year, we've got a family pass to give away, and we'll speak to one of the Red Wiggles Caterina on the shows today excellent see out the one Good on You.
01:48:08
Speaker 1: That's Lee Forres coming up this afternoon on five DOAA Almost time to Go. A short time ago, Anthony Albanezi held a news conference regarding artificial intelligence. This is part of what he had to say.
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Speaker 27: From smartphones to rifftop solar strains have always been enthusiastic adoptors of new technology, and AI is of course already part of our daily lives, not as a novelty or a search tool. It's changing the way that our universities teach and the way that students learn. It's helping small business owners cut the time they spend on paperwork. It's driving productivity and it's driving discovery. It's building new screening tools for cancer and disease. It is a critical and urgent innovation priority for our defense force and security agencies.
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