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Speaker 1: Good morning. It's eight past nine five a this Tuesday, May twenty. Hope we find you well after another pretty chilly morning turned into another delightful day. Well. I see Adelades made it near the top of a world list. It's a list that we'd rather not be on. We are ranked sixth among the twenty least affordable cities for housing. I'll repeat that, We're ranked sixth among the twenty least affordable cities for housing. Four Australian cities have been labeled impossibly unaffordable in the twenty twenty five Demographia International Housing Affordability Report. Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide and Perth all ranked among the twenty least affordable cities globally, out of ninety five major housing markets across Australia, Canada, China Island, New Zealand, Singapore, the UK and the US. The survey, conducted by Chapman University Center for Demographics and Policy, track global housing affordability for two decades. It highlights the growing challenge of housing inflation worldwide. Now he was the second least affordable city in the world after Hong Kong, followed by Adelaide. At sixth, Melbourne ninth, Brisbane eleventh, and Perth eighteen Sydney, Adelaide. Melbourne and Brisbane were classified as impossibly unaffordable, while Perth was deemed severely unaffordable. Now even Adelaide, the smallest market among them, recorded a medium multiple of ten point nine that ranked at ninetyeth out of ninety five, worse than global cities like New York, London and Chicago. The report noted that middle income households once had broad access to home ownership, with housing prices closely tied to incomes. Since the nineteen nineties, however, prices have surged, breaking that alignment, as were all too well aware, a major factor behind this crisis is population growth. Since two thousand, Australia's population has increased by around forty one percent, growing from roughly nineteen million to nearly twenty seven million by the end of this year. Immigration accounts for about sixty percent of this increase, up to five million people, while natural population growth contributed a proper slimately three million. Meanwhile, housing construction has failed to keep pace. In twenty twenty three twenty four, Australia built only about one hundred and seventy four thousand new dwellings. That's well below the National Housing Accords annual target of two hundred and forty thousand. The December twenty twenty four quarters or forty one thousand, nine hundred eleven dwellings commenced that was down four point four percent. Approvals in March fell by eight point eight percent. High interest rates, labor shortages, rising costs, and bureaucratic delays have hindered progress, with over thirty four thousand approved dwellings still not started as a mid twenty twenty four. The government's goal to build one point two million homes by twenty twenty nine is ambitious to build it mildly. Potential interest rate cuts in twenty twenty five may help. Surging population growth continues to outpay supply, deepening the housing affordability crisis. From twenty twenty four, or no, let's take it back. From twenty twenty two to twenty twenty four, there have been one million, four hundred and six thousand arrivals in Australia so far this year, an estimated one hundred and six thousand. This total's roughly one million, five hundred and seventy three thousand migrant arrivals in less than three years, and there's your problem. They all have to live somewhere. I'd like to know your thoughts. Eight double two three double o doublo is the number to ring. We'll speak with the Property Council Essay executive director Bruce Jette about the disturbing Adelaide figure. What can be done about it? Is enough being done about it at a federal and state level and I'd like to know your thoughts. Eight double two to three double o doublo the number to ring. Also on the show today, that three million dollar of super tanks that the government's talking about will impact a greater number of Australians and is being acknowledged. We'll speak to the Charted Practicing account and Superannuation lead Richard Webb about that this morning. Had you heard John Paul Drake from Drakes has had some very harsh words to say about trolls making racist comments about his staff and good on him too. We'll speak with John Paul Drake later this morning. Now, if you're listening yesterday you might have heard a call of Sioux from Murraytown and the Flinders Rangers. She'd be having huge problems with getting phone connectivity. In fact, she said she had to head off into the bush and upper hill somewhere to be able to speak with us, and she's had trouble getting some sense out of Telster. Well, we've been in touch with Tulster and Sue. If you're listening, we have a reply for you, so be listening for that. I see Australia's native bees are under threat. High densities of European honey bees could be harming Australian native bees by reducing their reproductive success and altering key traits linked to survival. Not a good thing as we realize the importance of bees in our structure. This's the first ever Living with Dementia survey about to commence. How can you take part? What do you need to know about it? We'll find out about that too. I was just thinking what a vast and remarkable country we live in. While we're in the midst of the worst stroud in SA in decades. Residents in parts of New South Wales have been told to evacuate immediately amid heavy rains and flash flooding. Ses IS warning it may be too late for people to be rescued if they wait. An emergency warning went out last night for parts of Patterson and Dungog. But it's incredible, isn't it. We look out at clear blue skies, we might see a little bit of rain over the weekend, and yet on the eastern seaboard more flooding. And how much fighting have they had over the past twelve months or so. It is quite remarkable. From the text line Jason says regarding the algall bloom, SA water treat blooms on large reservoirs with success using copper sulfate. I wonder if something like this concept can be used to treat this bloom that is eco friendly. Yeah, good question, Jason. You would have thought they would have considered that there might be aspects that would damage the environment. I don't know, but it's certainly worth considering because that algall bloom is terrifying. They estimated us about the size of Kangaroo Island incomprehensible water temperatures are two and a half degrees higher than normal, and that is impacting marine life in an absolutely tragic way. And hopefully what do they need? Cooler weather and lots of wind to disperse the Alga Bloom. Let's hope that happens soon. A lot is happening eight double two to three double double Oh is the number to ring if you want to take part on the show today. I yesterday I was talking about Victoria announcing free public transport for kids and I post the question should we bring it here? We have an response from the government and the Green's MLC is also pushing for fifty cent fares for everyone. Rob Sims will join us a little bit later on all that and more happening on the show today. Hope you can join us five Double.
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Speaker 2: A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Eighteen past nine five double A this Tuesday morning, May twenty. Hope we find you well well. Yesterday we had a caller Sue from Murraytown in the Flinders Ranges. She'd been having problems, huge problems in fact, getting phone connectivity and has had real trouble getting some sense from Telster. So good morning.
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Speaker 3: We've got no coverage our place for Telester or the neighbor's place, and we haven't had any for over a week. So we can't even contact Triple O. It keeps saying the service unavailable. I can't get through to anybody. I got in touch and we went over to Port Pirie and they tried everything. They called it's just a selling shop there, and they said get in touch with Telster and I said, we can't ring Telster.
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Speaker 4: We can't wuthering anybody.
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Speaker 3: It's very frustrating when people wring us. All right, they're coming from outside, so it actually rings at our place. I can't pick it up. They can't hear me texting. I want to text. If I want to text, I've got a walk halfway across a paddock here.
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Speaker 5: To get a text out that rangers.
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Speaker 1: Yesterday, well, my produce, Sir Patrick, contacted Telster and sue This was their statement issued to us. We are investigating the concerns of the customer provided and will make contact directly with them regarding their issue. Our engineering team are currently performing an analysis of the area. Customers can continue to make calls and send texts during disruption to mobile services by switching on Wi Fi calling. This is a free setting on most popular mobile phones and allows your mobile to make and receive mobile calls while connected to Wi Fi. So Sue, Telster will be in touch and Sue you're on the line now, Yan are you there? Are we hearing you loud and clear?
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Speaker 3: Yes, because I drove down a poor period to make sure I got the call A.
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Speaker 1: Do you shouldn't have to do that? And this is twenty twenty five, not eighteen twenty five. So what do you think of Telster's response?
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Speaker 3: How am how am I going to contact this?
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Speaker 1: Oh there's a question, isn't that?
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Speaker 3: And just you know, it worked perfectly when the three D was on. As soon as they put four gy on it, it was in any outing. But not only me, but the neighbor who's got a smartphone for dumb people. He can't get any either.
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Speaker 1: So so what sort of smartphone have you.
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Speaker 3: Got to I've got a just an ordinary pick me up and open it up and I can text or get messages and ring out. That is all that you know? One that a free one that Chelester gave us when they turned off the other one.
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Speaker 1: Oh right? Do you know if it has Wi Fi calling?
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Speaker 6: I doubt it.
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Speaker 3: I haven't looked, but I don't think it has. I think you know, it'll only hold twenty I think, or twenty five contacts. Anyway, it cut off all the.
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Speaker 1: Others, so well, I don't know how they're going to get in touch with you.
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Speaker 3: I don't know either. I've got a smartphone for dumb people. I've got a Galaxy, and that will not work here. It'll ring, but I can't answer it and I cannot ring out. Well, but they wet Telster. The guy from the Chester shop in pop PORI, I mean, sorry, poor Piri said they had been contacted by text or somebody and there's nothing wrong. Oh is that a fact? There's nothing wrong?
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Speaker 7: Well?
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Speaker 8: Sorry.
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Speaker 3: I spoke to Chris Mark some while ago about this and he told me that, you know, I could get an antenna. You know, it's about one thousand dollars and that might work.
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Speaker 1: Well, really, thank you very much, That's what.
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Speaker 3: I said, thank you, no thanks, and tells.
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Speaker 1: To tell us they've got this wonderful coverage all over the nation. They've been caught out.
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Speaker 3: Well, well we'll come up here and see if you can get anybody. Well, you can get anybody, but they can't get you.
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Speaker 1: Look, So what I suggest is I tell us to say they will be in touch with you. Now, give it a week, give it all, and let's know if they've been in touch or not. Okay, okay, I'll.
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Speaker 3: Drive down to poor Pirio.
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Speaker 1: Stay tuned. We're doing our best. Will we will do our best for you. But I mean we mentioned yesterday the spat between two major telcos, between Vodaphone and Telster. Vodaphone says Telsa has been misleading customers of the extent of its mobile network coverage, which it says has resulted in an unfair market advantage. Vodaphone alleges Telstra is engaged in misleading or deceptive conduct for more than fifteen years by overstating the reach of its mobile network by as much as forty percent. And there is a case in point with Sue, who has no coverage where there's claim to be coverage. Now, this particularly issue between Vodaphone and Telstra, I guess will be sorted out by the A Triple C. But there is a real issue with mobile networking coverage in the Bush. R MIT Associate Professor Mark Gregory has long been an advocate for reforms for improving rural telecommunications, and he joins me in no Mark, good morning to.
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Speaker 9: You, Good morning Graham.
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Speaker 1: Is do Sue's issue surprise you not at all?
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Speaker 9: This issue has been happening again and again since the three g turn off simply because of a couple of factors. One is the change in antennas that we used with the three gene network and the four gene network, and then how the signal pattern or the way that the signal moves away from the access points, the way that that's tuned. And as we saw yesterday, TPG has put it into the public domain. Something that we've known for quite a long period of time that the coverage maps provided by Telstra are coverage maps where you know you have an external antenna, and also in some areas they're they're overly ambitious, and so I don't find it surprising at all that we have customers that can't connect or or have you know, part short connection such as walking across a paddic to be able to send an SMS. What we need is performance standards, and I've been asking for this for more than ten years now. We need performance standards for telecommunications. It's one of the few industries where there are no performance standards, and it's really down to you get what you get and put up with it.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 9: I think that what we saw yesterday was Telstra's being called out the A Triple C needs to look very carefully at this and there's clear guidance about misrepresentation of what you're providing the customers. And Telstra has been caught out because they've now modified their website to include, oh will the coverage maps include we're you know, using external antennas and so therefore a fine needs to be levied on Telstra by the A triple C question is how big your fine? Given that this has been one of Telstra's major marketing points for the past twenty five years, it's really something that they've relied on with their marketing to you know, to a great extent. The fine needs to be large to harm to correlate with, you know, with that because there's many customers have relied upon this statement that our coverage is is you know, X y Z, but it's really not unless you have an external antenna, and the list of other things go on and on.
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Speaker 1: It could cost one thousand dollars.
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Speaker 9: They actually cost more than that time restored. And this statement that is continually thrown out saying that you know, you need to get an external antenna and and so forth, like you need to put on your house, you need to put on your car, you need to put it everywhere, but then need to walk along the street holding one. It's not acceptable for the average.
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Speaker 1: Person, But doesn't it so that with the three G network people had good coverage in rural areas well.
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Speaker 9: It was the way that the antennas were set up and worked. They were an omnidirectional antenna that the signal moved away from equally in all directions. With the four G and five GB and TENNA set up so different, they do provide better performance, but in areas where they're tuned to do that, and so therefore you do get these weak spots in the in the cells, you know, in the transmission areas.
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Speaker 1: Yeah and sorry here you go ahead.
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Speaker 9: Well, the key issue is that if without monitoring, which has now been called for by the National Farmers Federation a can you know, there's complaints about the Telecommunications Consumer Protection Code from the TII, the agriple see sort of everyone is unhappy with the situation with telecommunications right across the board. There is a concern and most of it is replicating what I've been saying for more than ten years. So therefore it's time that the government acts to to you know, to pull the telecommunications industry into you know, into alignment with what customers expect.
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Speaker 1: Darren's textas in saying I live on York Peninsula. I can sit within a kilometer from telecommunications towers and get no signal the Wi Fi has hit or miss. Telstra continually say there's no issue.
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Speaker 9: Well absolutely, that's exactly the type of problem that we have. As I have written as an example, you should be able to stand you know, either five hundred meters or a kilometer from a tower on a clear day, with no rain and no clouds in sight of the tower, and you should be able to get the same performance from every tower everywhere in the nation. But that's not the case. I mean, look, there are towns such as you know, Geralton and Western Australia and other places that I've been to where I've stood five hundred meters from the tower with a clear view and a clear day, no clouds, and I've received almost you know, no signal or no throughput. Even if there is signal, you know, the upload and download speeds are woeful. And there's many examples if this across the nation. And this comes back to the fact that there are no performance standards for telecommunications and the telcos can say one thing with impunity because the A Triple C and the TiO and the ACMA, they are not empowered by legislation to take action.
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Speaker 1: So really it's in the government's hands. They need to empower a triple C to be able to take action against Telstra and the like.
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Speaker 9: Tom most certainly look and I've been calling for funding for research to work out how the performance standards should be designed and implemented. But would you believe of all industries in Australia, the only industry where there is no funding available for research is telecommunications.
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Speaker 1: Go figure, Thanks for that. Mark. That's Mark Gregory, Associate Professor at r MIT, telecommunications expert on not only SUS problems, but Darren's problems and a lot of other people who live in regional areas. There's just not the service that they deserve and demand back shortly five Double.
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Speaker 2: A Mornings with gram Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Twenty seven to ten, five double A on this delightful Tuesday morning, A double two three double double is then I'm to ring a little bit later on this hour Victoria's announced free public transport for kids. Should we bring it in here? The Green's MLC Rob Simms is pushing for fifty cent fares for everyone. We'll talk about public transport in this city. Is it adequate you paid? Do you pay too much for it? Should you be paying anything for it? Like to know your thoughts A double two three double o double Oh William, good morning.
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Speaker 4: Good morning Graham. Look just on the phone coverage here in South Australia and if not Australia, I'm more familiar obviously South Australia.
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Speaker 10: I don't mean to.
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Speaker 4: Brag, but my partner's from Thailand and I spend probably you know, a good half of the year in Thailand, so it's like my second home.
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Speaker 11: Now.
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Speaker 4: When we're in Thailand, we probably do you know, the whole island, the whole you know, we travel around Thailand. Weren't just sit in one spot. Yeah, and you know, as a as a most as a modern country yard. Here in Australia, my phone drops out being a courier here in Australia more times than I can ever think of. But in Thailand, not once has my phone ever dropped out or the WiFi ever dropped out. And just referring back to here in a earlier I was thinking maybe my home was having more of an issue because you know, when I built the house, were you still framed? And I thought that might be interfering with all your Wi Fis and all that kind of signal. But it seems like, you know, for a modern country, we're so far behind the times in regards to phone towers and Wi Fi. It's just makes your mind boggle. Grame.
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Speaker 1: Really, yeah, it certainly does, it really does. And we wonder if we've dropped the ball on this. And I think it's fair to say that when we talk internet speeds and phone coverage, we are lagging behind many other countries. Well I mentioned earlier. Adelaide has ranked six among the twenty least affordable cities for housing. Four Australian cities have been labeled impossibly unaffordable in a twenty twenty five international housing Affordability report. Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide and Perth are all ranked among the twenty least affordable cities globally. And that's out of ninety five major housing markets, which include Australia, Canada, China Island, New Zealand, Singapore, the UK and the US. Joining me now is Bruce Jitte from the property council Bruce, good morning to you. These are quite alarming figures, sta't you think they're.
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Speaker 12: Absolutely shocking stats and it just shows how far we are away from delivering more affordable housing or housing that is in reach for everyday South Australian. It's quite an alarming statistic and it just, you know, reinforces how much more we still need to do to tackle this housing crisis.
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Speaker 1: It needs to be tackled at all levels, obviously at federal level, state level, local government level, council level. Do you think there needs to be some sort of you know, a round table conference, but everyone because we get some sort of federal government ideas may set targets. The state government is doing its best, but is there an overall concept, an overall plan to improve the housing situation.
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Speaker 12: Well, you've got to make get competitive and you know the federal government started doing that obviously with half funding and the way that's distributed. But you know there's more the state government could be doing to apply greater responsibility to councils to actually approve more developments and approve them more quickly, and the state government could be doing the same. They are pulling a lot of leaders and We are working really closely with the state government on this issue, but there are more leaders that could be pulled. You know, there's a legitimate question around you know, how furious is the government about delivering affordable housing because a number of policy decisions, whether it's double garages and the like, there's a number of policy decisions that automatically have made housing more expensive to deliver. So if affordability is the laser focus, that's not been reflected in some of the policies we've seen. And in terms of speed of delivery, well that's something that really could be accelerated because the land releases take a long time. They cost a lot of money to get infrastructure delivered there, and that is happening, but there is a huge infel opportunity that we are not yet seeing come to fruition.
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Speaker 1: I mean, we obviously need to get on top of construction costs. I mean they've surged by forty percent in the past five years.
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Speaker 12: Our construction costs are huge. But you know, I think it's important for South Australians to know that at least thirty percent of the cost of a dwelling is made up of government and local government, State and local government fees, taxes charges. You know, that's ten years of your thirty year mortgage gone back to paying for those taxes, fees, charges, whether it's land, whether it's council rates, etc. And that is contributing significantly. So when you take into account land costs, the cost of land, you're take into account the cost of construction. And yes, it's exploded over the last couple of years. It's about to get worse as the government embarks on the biggest infrastructure pipeline that the state's ever seen in Children's Hospital, North South Corridor and the like. So this is a challenge that really needs a laser focus. If we want to talk about affordability, if that's not going to happen, then I think the government needs to start talking about how they make housing more accessible because they are not tackling the affordability issue as well as they could.
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Speaker 1: Well if they tackle law and cut back some of their rights and charges. You're saying thirty percent of the cost of a house is tied up in government charges.
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Speaker 12: Yep, an entry level home, brand new home is tied up in taxes, fees charges. That's not money that's going to developers. That's just a pass through to consumers who are left hold in the camp.
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Speaker 1: You can understand the frustration. There are many young Australians, young people in Adelaide now who are giving up the thought of ever earning their own home.
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Speaker 12: Absolutely, and we just released a report a couple of months ago and unfortunately we had to title it beyond reach because housing is entry level housing. We're not talking about Richie suburbs, you know. We're talking about areas where you would consider it more affordable Salisbury, you know, Christie's Beach, Monopara, some of these areas where you would think first home buyers would be targeting. It is now unaffordable, completely beyond reach for a whole range of demographics. You could be a public servant, you could be a nurse, you could be you know, a trade and electrician, we model teachers. There's a whole range. Because wages are not keeping up with the explosion in house prices and something needs to change else we're going to end up in a society where to own a home is something that's either inherited or through some form of great wealth transfer, and that will have a lot of negative societal and economic impacts for the whole state.
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Speaker 1: I mean it is a tragedy, Bruce, because not that long ago that was called the great Australian dream to own your own home, and it was realizable, it could be done.
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Speaker 12: But not anymore that dream is quickly becoming a nightmare.
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Speaker 1: Graham Bruce on that SATURDAYE Unfortunately, we'll leave it. Thank you for your time, Bruce. You'd a Property Council SA executive director on the grim news about owning your own home. It is so far and away, and particularly it's not a world problem, and it would appear seems that Australia. Quoting the figures that I mentioned, twenty twenty five International Housing Affordability Report, Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide in Perth all ranked among the twenty least affordable cities globally Australian cities crazy a little old city like Adelaide. We are ranked sixth among the least affordable cities in housing. If that doesn't set alarm bells off, nothing would. Adam, good morning, good morning.
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Speaker 13: Oh where you go?
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Speaker 1: Good thanks.
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Speaker 14: I'm just troubled by the waste of money. Those government seems to be able to throw moneyways super things. I was just driven down sappily still road yesterday along the airport there, and there's a biplane, Yes, perfectly, there's a great biplane actually riding a bikelane. They're chewing it up, replacing it. There's roads that need replacing it. They're doing a biplane.
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Speaker 1: So there's an existing bikelane there, I'm aware of it. But they're redoing it resurface.
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Speaker 14: Are they digging it right out? They've got a venture out there, a profile right there, digging it all out and then redoing it again. So what the hell of them.
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Speaker 11: With these guys?
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Speaker 14: You know, they've got plenty of money for stupid things like that, you know.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well you make a good point. Unless there was something radically wrong with the bike lane, they could have patched it up like they patch up our roads sometimes. Good on you, Adam, Yeah, thanks for that. If anyone's aware out near the airport of what is happening with the bike lane replacement, do you know what's going on there? Why is it being dug up and replaced? Because the last time I've went along there, of course I haven't ridden along there as a cyclist, but it seemed pretty good. It was a pretty good stretch of bitumen all the way along there and they're digging it up and replacing it. Obviously got plenty of money. Gg. My daughter is twenty kilometers from Robertstown and paid fifteen hundred dollars for a hon antenna and gets two hundred meters coverage from the farmhouse. Thank you for that. John. This is a absolutely ludicrous situation. When the three G network was in we didn't hear too many complaints. I'm sure there were isolated areas, but the three G network seem to operate pretty well. When they shut down the three G network, a lot of people. Thousands of people have been left without mobile service. Hijig finding Telster is not going to fix the comms problem. Good on you, Gary, Thank you for that. Graham. All the people who voted labor to fix the housing crisis and Labor won't admit immigration is the problem. Well, I think anyone would have to concede that immigration has exacerbated a problem. There was a problem anyway. We have a problem getting enough construction workers, builders and the like. But when you bring in one million, five hundred thousand people into the country in a period of five years, we're going to have problems because all those people need to live somewhere. The people that say, look, well we need to bring in immigrants to there's lots of job vacancies. We can't fill all the job vacancies. That's all set that aside. But these people have to live somewhere, and when they come here, they're competing for houses with other people, young people, older people who need rental accommodation to buy houses. And off, all of a sudden there's an injection of one and a half million people, and the houses are being built in the country at the rate of about one hundred and seventy thousand a year. You don't have to be a mathematics expert to realize we're in a lot of trouble. Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings. It's thirteen two ten on five double A on this delightful Tuesday morning. Hope we find you well, Phil says morning Graham. I wonder if you could get a marine biologist to explain the effect of the algill bloom on sea grasses. Yet we will certainly track that down. We know with what an impact it's having on marine life, but as far as sea grasses, we don't quite know. Andrew says yep, they're digging out completely the tar bike lane down along Tapleys Hill Road down to about a foot. The stretch runs about three kilometers and you look at what's remaining and it looks still in good Nick. Yeah, we wonder why are they replacing it? Is there a logical reason that would run three kilometers of bike lane that would run into a pretty doll? I would think high ground. Do you know or have any statistics on who is buying all our houses here in Adelaide and Australia in general. I'm seeing houses in Hallett Cove and Hallet Cove Beach in the nine hundred k to two and a half million sold very quickly, so who's buying them? Regards Mark? We will do some investigating. I don't know if yeah, if those statistics are readily available. It's not only young people struggling to buy a home. There's also the older bracket. Some older people have had things go pear shape in their lives and they're also struggling to get into the housing market. Yeah. Well, there's no question that the housing market is tragically beyond most people this stage. Unless you've you know, you've got parents or somebody who's prepared to chip in and give you a sizeable deposit. But for an average family, and this is an average family, not a lower income family, people earning pretty decent money, you just to find the deposit is nigh on impossible. Well, the Victoria State government is offering free public transport for more than one million Victorian children. It's part of key costs living measures in their state. The Premier Jacenta Hearn says, families are doing it tough. I'm on their side. SA families are doing it tough too. Should Transport Minister Tom cooson turnus consider it doing the same thing. Well, Robert Simms has his thoughts on public transport in the state. He joins me. Now, Robert, good morning to you.
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Speaker 15: Good morning Graham.
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Speaker 1: Now you're not proposing free public transport, but for fifty cent across the board.
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Speaker 15: Well, well, the Greens do support free public transport and I have advocated for that for many years. But what we're suggesting is for this state budget that the government roll out a trial of fifty cent fares just to see what the takeup is. That would be a significant saving for South Australian households that are going through cost of living struggles at the moment, in Fate, your average family of four would save about seventeen hundred dollars over a six month period. And then, of course if the trial is successful, it'd be great to see the government make it permanent. The experience over in Queensland demonstrates that when you make a transport heavily discounted in this way, you're going to see a significant uptake. And that's why over in Queensland both political parties, Labor and the Liberals have actually said, yeah, let's make this an ongoing initiative.
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Speaker 1: And there's no question that one of the problems with the CBD is at the moment is people are not going into the CBD for a whole range of reasons. Since COVID, we've had trouble attracting people back. So either free or subsidized public transport would probably attract more people into the business district.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, look, I think that's absolutely the case. We know that this is a potential economic benefit as well. You know, less money that people are paying on transport costs means more money that they can spend when they go out. And you know, we know that car parking in the CBD, for instance, is very expensive. It'd be better if people were able to spend that money at a local restaurant or at some city shops. And let's not forget to the environmental benefit that flows from all of this too, And it means a reduction in carbon emissions. And we have a commitment here in South Australia to try and deal with climate change, and yet we're not really doing anything about carbon emissions and that's a significant problem in terms of tackling the climate crisis. So this is one way that we can incentivize people, incentivize people to leave the cur at home. I can also just say Graham on this idea about free public transport for children, it definitely makes sense. We think it should be free for everybody. But I was chair of a parliamentary inquiry a few years ago now, and one of the key recommendations of that inquiry, looking at public and active transport in our state, was the need for us to simplify the concession system because here in their say, it's actually really confusing for parents. So you know, for child's under the age of five, they get free public transport, but then if they're between the ages of five and seventeen, they can get a student concession. Some of those students have to carry a card, some age groups don't. It's a very confusing system and so really there's a lot of room for the government to move, I think in terms of simplifying it and bringing us into line with what other states are doing.
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Speaker 1: Robert Simms good to chat Green's MLC. Robert Simms on public transport. Should it be free? Should it be subsidized to the extent that people pay fifty cents? Should it be free for kids? Those under eighteen? Well, I believe the Adelaide City Council is very keen for at least a trial to see a reduced flat fare on all public transport, similar to what Queensland have done. And there's been a response from Tom Kuittson Turnis Transport Minister, who says the state government already subsidizes more than ninety percent of the cost of public transport in South Astralia. Every cent raise through fares goes back into improving amenity, security and frequency on our network and that is immediate policy. So I think we can take it from that. There will be no free public transport for those under eighteen and southa State. There will be no fifty cent fares across the board, status quo from the state government morning gg. Bruce Gei was advocating to get Adelaide's population to over two and a half million this time last year, which is only going to increase demand on housing, therefore increasing prices. Also, you just can't build cheap houses to answer the problem. Can't have it both ways. Thank you for that, Lou. Yeah. Look, I remember having a discussion, a little heated discussion with Bruce Ete at this time when he was advocating such an increase in our population, and we were at cross swords. He thought it was going to boost the economy and be advantageous for so many reasons. But the bottom line is increase population. People have to live somewhere, and if there are not enough houses for people already here, what are you going to do? When he says, China is laughing at our slow phone, internet and housing problems, just ask any international student, Jason says, my phone and internet drops out regular I'm only five hundred meters from a phone tower. I was also thinking it was the steel beams in my house, but maybe it's just a terrible service instead Oka. I know my daughter lives in Tranmere and there are certain parts of the house that you try and make a phone call and it doesn't work. There's no internet connection. This is in the city, This is in fifteen minutes of the heart of the city. Just ludicrous situation. How did that happen in Australia. I know part of the argument is that the tyranny of distance too. Oh, it's such a vast country to get coverage overall, but we're talking in city areas, isolate areas in the hills York Peninsula. You know, that's hardly a million miles away a line of sight with Adelaide in fact, and people on York Peninsula have trouble getting coverage. It is just a crazy situation that has happened here, and you know it makes us a third world country in that respect. Tom Good morning, Laurie Graham.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, chattering up about spending half a year living in Thailand. My younger brother does the same thing. He was there all through COVID. He's back in Australia now. I just got off the phone with him. Now. The situation is in the gym is absolutely correct. My brother has troubles from from time to time in Australia, he said, he never has a problem in Thailand. The difference is at least in the area where he's living in the sinew every second place has a tower, a huge tower. But they're not privately owned. They're all been All them towers are actually nine percent are actually put up by the tele communications companies and they pay the owner of the property rent for the site. And it's a bit like when you look at you look at those shows and you see all the wirring in a lot of these Asian countries and the power poles, and that's a bloody nightmare.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're all plugged in yet a million exactly the outlet deal.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, and my brother, that's exactly what the towers look like in Thailand, he said. But the service is bloody fantastic. But yeah, just out because I lived in York Fininsula just outside of Edbury for a number of years and the optic service would work there, but not the tels of service I don't know about now. And that's only three k's from Edithburgh Fort Pirie. I've got friends just outside the see literally three k's if you draw a line from there start. They has about three k's they're going to go outside to get this service outside of the actual building. I mean, this has been going on for so so long. I mean it was going on when they had that when they dragged that Canadian bloke out here when it used to be called I think it's called telecom at the time, and he was supposed to fix all the problems, end up going back with a big, big payout. This has been a sorry, a public relations BS story for well over twenty years about the coverage.
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Speaker 1: You know, there's no question about that, Tom, and thanks for your call. And we were talking to Associate Professor Mark Gregory, who's a telecommunications expert, and he's part of the problem is that, he says, the major telcos not really responsible, answerable to anyone. You know, a Triple C can wave a finger at them and so forth. But in terms of getting a better coverage, it's not going to happen at this stage. Gay, you're the eyes and ears of five double A listeners. What can you tell us?
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Speaker 16: Oh, Hi there, I've just come from home. I live near Mark College on Douglas Drive at Sonaparah. There's a huge accident on Douglas Drive. Traffic is not able to get through either side of the road. All the emergency services are there, but a lot of people who might be going down to Marth College or the Adelaide Nor Special School, they'll have to go right down Curtis Road to Peach You Road and along that back way because the Doublas Drive is blocked.
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Speaker 1: Oh look, so go through that for us again. Gay, where exactly was.
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Speaker 16: The act at Snapara in the place of the live area. It's blocked in both directions. There is an accident there. I don't know what's happened up to get ghost enough, but all the emergency services are on hand, and if anyone's going to Mark Qualifant College or the Adelaide North Special School, they will need to go down Curtis Road to Peach You Roads and come in that way because they can't get down Doubles Strive.
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Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to have to put you on the payroll. Thank you for that very comprehensive report. We really appreciate.
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Speaker 3: Thanks Graam, Happy good day.
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Speaker 1: Thank you. That's okay with a traffic report, so be wary of that, and no doubt there'll be more information on that than the news. Hopefully it is not too serious A double two to three, double O double We're going to take a break for news. Then after the news, John Paul Drake has been rather vociferous in his condemnation of racist trolls. We'll have a chat with John Paul after the news. Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings at seven past ten, five Double A on this to mindful Tuesday Morning. Social media. You love it? Oh? Do you hate it? It can be the most frustrating cesspool of dire tribe that ever comes out, although it does have its benefits. But I'll tell you what, when it's bad, it's really ugly. And the South of Stralian supermarket boss John Paul Drake has certainly experienced that, and he sprang to the defense of his staff who have been the subject to some horrific racist comments. He joins me, now, John Paul, good morning to you, John Paul. Are you there? John Paul is speechless. Yes, that's all right.
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Speaker 10: Worry about that, guys, I'm just trying to suspense introduction. Definitely, definitely.
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Speaker 1: I tell you what, it worked. It scared the hell out of Meryeah.
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Speaker 10: Well, as you've mentioned, we've had an interesting example of you know, we have suppliers and we use our team members in social photos that they will happily want to be in. And when I'm doing these posts, like normally everything is fine, but over the weekend we've had a bit of a tiro to Gates, a particular team member of ours, and race was definitely the hot topic that was pulled apart here. Extremely racist remarks and it's not just the words, just the memes as well that come with that. And I just want, you know, my team members to understand, like, it's not on to be able to do that, say, it's not on for anyone to be able to speak like that. And you know, I keep going back to these keyboard warriors, quite simple to sit behind a computer an anonymous person.
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Speaker 1: They'd never say it to your face. They would have the guts to say it to your face.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, and I know, and this is this is unfortunately one of the things we see in society today. And you know, for us, you know, I rang the team members straight away and I said, look, I'm happy to take that post down, are you okay? And he was actually very good about the whole thing. Yeah, you know, understood that this does happen, but I said I was going to make sure that I wanted to write something because it did infuriate me to think that people think it's okay to say these things, send memes like this, and you know, he really come back to me. Look at what football players go through and what other sporting athletes go through. You know, this is a team member working on the shop floor in one of my supermarkets, and this is the sort of behavior that we're seeing online. And I will be I'll be quite frank with you, We very rarely see any incidence in store. They all funny enough on their time, but no one in our team deserves to be subject to that kind of behavior. In fact, no one does.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, the thing is I think with you know, it is totally unacceptable. But what I think is admirable, John Paul, is the fact that I think you and your dad see as a big family. There might be thousands of members of the family, but if one has heard or challenge or whatever, you immediately spring to their defense.
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Speaker 10: Yeah. Absolutely, And yeah, we do employ around four and a half thousand people here in South Australia, and I'll be honest. Dad used to know all their names. He's having a flight problem these days, knowing everyone everyone's name. But you know, we you know, our team members, there are most valuable assets that we have, and if we are not going to stick up for them, who is. And you know, I think I believe in in making sure that we do everything we can to be calling out behavior like this no different than the customer maddicians that we have. Now, you know, people come into the store. I can't say there's Beeves funny enough. They come into the store and they walk out without paying for products. And the reason this all comes about is that my team members get sick and tired of the same people walking in, grabbing what they want and walking out. Why the rest of us are out there working to earn our money, to pay for our goods and to be what I would say, a moral citizen. So I find it very hard that in this day and age, in this country of eyes, which is a definitely multicultural country, of having to call out extremely shameful behavior. I mean, there's no excuse for racism in any form, even less directed at a team member that was holding a product with caption on it.
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Speaker 1: So now it's just unthinkable. I mean, as you say it's a multicultural country. All of us have friends or acquaintances have come from overseas or different nationalities and that, and we're all pretty well blend in there. Isolated incidents, of course, But to just sort of launch these uncalled for, unprovoked attacks on people, it just shows that there are people out there the lowest common denomina is in society.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, and I get this quite a lot with the comments that I make. I make some stance and some of those are aligned with Drake, and sometimes I get in a bit of trouble with my own team at Drake's. But I believe in this sort of behavior, everyone should feel comfortable about calling it out, and no one should feel uncomfortable about calling it out when they see it. And I find too many people, too many business leaders are too scared to talk about the truth, and they don't want to upset the apple cart because they don't want to be perceived as a certain kind of person by calling out this sort of behavior. And I think every business leader should be calling out this sort of behavior. And Dad will kill me for this because their customer is always right. The old rule are rule number one. The customers a rule number two. I refer to rule number one. Well, you know we proved this during COVID that the customer may always come first. But when you're abusing any of our team members or anyone on my team, I believe you use the right to be a customer at one of our stores. So you know, I cannot defend my team anymore than we do. We make sure that we prosecute any physical behavior or anything in our own stores which came about through COVID. And you know, my people, they're my biggest essay, and I've got no qualm standing up for them for us.
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Speaker 1: Right, Well, you've got the support of ninety nine point nine percent of people. I think there's only one point one of a percent of morons that have nothing better to do with their lives than to troll on social media and get some sort of kick out of being offensive. So more power to you, John.
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Speaker 10: Paul, keep it up, Thanks Graham, have a great morning, you too.
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Speaker 1: John Paul Drake from Drake's Supermarket standing up for apparently it was a little bit of advertising there with the team members there holding up some products or whatever, and because they are obviously of ethnic origin or something like that, somebody took offense and made some absolutely racist comments, totally uncalled for. John Paul Drake sprung to their defense and good on him too, Hi Graham, I love Drakes and the friendly staff from Louis. Good on you, Louis, thank you very much for that. It's quarter past ten, five Double A. Still lots to come. The rate decision will be made today by the Reserve Bank. Crossing our fingers, they say it's a ninety nine percent chance there will be a rate cut, but until that comes out we won't know. That will be sometime this afternoon that Stacy Lee will be across that as the afternoon progresses. And still to come this hour. The super tax that the government is telling us about saying it won't impact all that many people, well, the cauntains say it will impact a lot more Australians and as being acknowledged. Five Double A Mornings with Graham. Goodings, good morning to you. Great to have your company on this Tuesday, May the twentieth. Well, we mentioned yesterday about the big spat between two major telcos. Votaphone says Telstra has been misleading customers over the extent of its mobile network coverage, which it says has resulted in an unfair market advantage. Let's find out more about it. From a consumer executive at Vodaphone, Kieran Cooney, Kieren, good morning.
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Speaker 5: To you, Good morning gram Thanks for having me on.
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Speaker 1: No, it's a pleasure. We want to get to the bottom of this because we've been talking all morning about people having issues with Telstra in remote areas not getting the coverage that they recall. So what is the votaphone beef with Telster?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, just one thing is why are you describing it as like the stoush between us? It really isn't like. This isn't about Votaphone versus Telstra.
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Speaker 17: This is about Telstra.
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Speaker 11: Versus the truth and what they've actually.
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Speaker 5: Been saying to Australias. It's not a comparison with US, comparison to their own statements and have been caught out because for more than fifteen years Telsha's mislead by overstating the size of the mobile network by around one million square kilometer, So that's not arounding it. It's a huge amount. It's roughly the size of miss up Wales Victorian Act combined. And what they failed to mention until we caught up with them, and we caught them with the pants down. Is that this coverage is only accessible when you have quite expensive external intendas that almost nobody uses. That was never mentioned and it's not how Australians use their mobile phone. So it's not how and it's not how Telstra has advertised its own network. So even now after they've been exposed, is still refusing to disclose actually what their actual coverage is that Australians get when they're just using a regular mobile phone. And what we've been saying, we been staggered with their response is we just want them to come clean and howns for a simple question, which is how big is your mobile coverage when you're using a standard mobile phone.
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Speaker 1: Do you think they're been getting an unfair market advantage because of this?
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Speaker 5: I think definitely they've distorted the market. Is that by their own admission and by their own statements. Whenever people ask, oh, why is Telster more expensive? To Telster executives, what they say again and again is that it's their mobiles, their network, the coverage. What's becoming clear is the central part of the promise and the reason why they've been demanding these high prices. Well now it's under question.
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Speaker 1: Well by comparison, how does votefhone measure its coverage?
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Speaker 5: The really industry standard way, which is what a normal Australian with just a mobile phone is they're out and about using it as user, I would where they can expect.
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Speaker 11: To get coverage.
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Speaker 5: That's the reasonable way, right Like I if I ask you, what do you think mobile coverage could mean? I presume most people would say I don't know it's where and get coverage for using my mobile? Well they're said there's no, no, no. And this is the important point ran is they didn't even mention this for fifteen years. The way they calculated it was, oh, to get this coverage, you would have had to also get an antenna, which can often be the size of a broomstick, that has to get plugged into its own repeater or like an amplifier that has to plug into power. All of that then gets bolted into a car or a house. So all of those additional things, which by the way, almost nobody uses. So to suggest that's the basis on which you're promising all Australians on the coverage is so misleading. It's probably the level of a misleading we've never seen before in our industry.
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Speaker 1: So how they got away with it for so long, well.
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Speaker 5: I don't know, will be uncovered because we looked at their information, We looked at its maps that they're taken to the Ahripal, see the data that they and their claims that they make in their advertising. We use our own tools that we use for ourselves, and these numbers don't match up. And it's not that they match up, just you know that they don't match up just a little bit. They are out by a million square kilometers and this is really important, especially in a state like Australia whereby this is a big state and Australia is a tough place to put mobile coverage on for any operator. So what Australians deserve, and frankly, what they're demanding is I just want to know if I'm buying the service, where's the coverage that I can get it? How much coverage can I can get? And they've fallen short on that fundamental promise that they need to deliver to Australia.
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Speaker 1: We've been getting a lot of feedback from people saying, look, when we had three G it was it was fine. We had, we'd coverage. We don't have three G anymore, and we don't have coverage. Was that a step back for people in rural areas?
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Speaker 5: You have to you'd have to talk to them specifically about that change. But what I'd be saying is is that is that is an even bigger issue because that might have been a small reduction in particular areas, or it might not have been. That'll be really you know, probably one that I wouldn't have information for, So I'm not trying to avoid the question the information. The bigger point is that there's a much bigger promim Like if I've been promised, it's the equivalent of if I sold your ticket to go to London, but then the plane stopped and Dubai and I was like, hang on, I want to get to London there, you need to buy another ticket for that. Like it is outrageous in terms of the misleading conduct that they've seen. And what we've been saying is if we don't as I have it, we don't come out, you know, ask these kind of questions of competitors. But the reality is this is such a huge misbelieving behavior that it's not about us versus end. This is the really important thing. It's about Telstra versus the truth. We need them to come out and state very clearly what is our outdoor coverage but Australian could expect to get number two? Why have I not been making that clear for fifteen years? And I know they've been distorting the market. We've been saying it to customers, to investors, to the entire market that this is the basis of our superiority, and it turns out it is vastly smaller than what they're expecting. For smaller we're saying, come clean straight up and tell us why you haven't been cleaned for fifteen years.
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Speaker 1: So votaphones exposed the issue. What would you expect to happen from here?
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Speaker 5: We raised it with the AH Triple C as well. So first of all, we raised it with Telstra and we said, oh, this is weird. We don't understand this. Can can you explain it? We wrote a couple of letters and with the responses we got fell short of what anyone would expect. So then we want to the huble C and now we're speaking to yourself and to the HBC. We're hoping and as I think a lot of other industry players, and what dogs are calling for is this looks like huge, a huge misleading action and they want to we're hoping that it'll be investigated at number one. Number two. What we're hoping is they'll make it right with customers, which is they just need to come clean. They need to come out and say what is the coverage and why are we then saying a difference in the numbers and a different city conditioners for fifteen years. And then third of all, we'd be calling on any of their customers to go if you've made a decision, whether you're a consumer or a corporate and part of that decisions that based on disclosures have turned out to not be true, and we can tell Stress to let those customers we don't be free of their contract.
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Speaker 1: Kieran Kearney, thanks for your time today. Consumer executive at the Vodaphone on the exposure of Telstra's mobile coverage. And we've had plenty of times today reports people saying that the coverage that they've been promised is not available from the text line. Steam says support John Paul one percent for standing up for bad behavior although or standing up against bad behavior, although we are multicultural. We cannot treat different ethnic groups differently. Everyone should be treated equally. Thanks for that, Steve Ian, Good morning, good morning.
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Speaker 6: Let's say a couple of colors. I'm a truckie. I go a regional every day. I'm just topping the truck. Now I go. I can go all the way to broken here or get your Janta on another network out of the Telstra and not be a service for three uncoceptable. So that's why I change to Telstra.
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Speaker 1: And that works for you.
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Speaker 6: Well, it works because if I break down and then I'm with one of the other telcodes, I'm beside the right waving down people that are on Telstra to get help. That's the same simple.
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Speaker 1: Yep, no, no, I take your point. Thanks for that, Ian. We'll leave it there because the line is a bit noisy. Look that. I don't think there's any question that Telster provides the greatest coverage, but I think the bone of contention is they're claiming much greater coverage than they actually have. So sourses for courses. If Tolster works for you, it's all well and good. Eight double two THREEUBO is the numbered ring coming up after news headlines that super tax that the Treasurer says is only are going to impact a very small group of people with about three million dollars or more in their super account. Well, the CPA Australia says it's going to affect a lot more people than has been realized, and into the future it will affect growing numbers. Graham read the housing shortages and costs. There's no financial incentive to downsize for older Australians now and no solution in sight. My thoughts are that while people are financially maxed out just to pay their mortgage now, there's no money left in their budget for modernizing or important repairs. So we will see houses in the future being very expensive still, but a need of substantial repairs may be not even inhabitable. With the shortage of trades, this will be a future problem limiting housing availability. Thank you for that Mark. The Lean says, unlike the rest of the world, our governments would rather spend millions on bureaucrats wages than on improving our telecommunications, roads or anything else that improves life. Back off the news headlines five Double A.
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Speaker 2: Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Good morning, Welcome to Tuesday, May twentieth. Hope we find you well. Hope you're having a good day. If you got any issue that takes your fancy, something that's happening in your neck of the woods, let's know about it. You know, the eyes and ears of our audience. Eight double two to three, double oh, double oh. The number to ring, or you can text on zero double four eight and zero eight thirteen ninety five. But I prefer a call. I like to chat, WE like to interact well. Many financial commontators say Labour's controversial plan to impose hefty taxes on unrealized capital gains as a well tax. The Albanesi government's plan to slap a thirty percent tax rate on Superfi above three million dollars is looming, with Labor and the Greens expected to join forces in the Senate to pass the legislation. Now Treasurer Jim Chalmers says this will impact a very small number of Australians, but some experts and the contains say this is not the case. They say the super tax will impact a greater number of Australians than as being acknowledged. Joining me now is Elena Cassapedes, CPA Australia Chief of Policy Eleenor Good morning to you.
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Speaker 8: Good morning.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is concerning to a lot of people. There are a lot of people say, look, three million dollars super, that's way more than I've got or I'm likely to have, So it's not going to impact me. Do you see it somewhat differently?
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Speaker 5: We do.
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Speaker 18: We're thinking about not just about today the eighty thousand people that are estimated to be impacted once the law passes, but over the future generations because when you look at the law, there's no indexing, so as inflation, as that value increases go forward, more and more people are going to trip up over these thresholds. And if you think about a dollar todayet was about thirty cents forty years ago. Over the course of someone's working life, they're going to start to head towards this, even if they're just on the average wage.
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Speaker 1: And when you look at it, people also say, well, they probably won't impact me because I'm not a high wagerner. I'm learning sort of average or below wages, so I'm never going to get part to that threshold. You're saying that's not the case.
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Speaker 18: Well, we want Australians to be aspirational and very many people to full time employment throughout the course of their lives. And of course the peranuation is intended to help every day Australians, say, for their retirement. So the purpose of the system is to actually encourage people to put money aside and have a comfortable retirement. And what we're saying is, at some point in time, having three million dollars is going to be the same as having a much smaller amount today, let's say six or seven hundred thousand dollars. And we're concerned that there are no safeguards built in to prevent more and more people getting taxed to higher higher rates.
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Speaker 1: What do you make of the taxing unrealized profits.
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Speaker 18: We're fundamentally opposed to it. So these unrealized capital gains are not taxed anywhere else in the system. And the reason for that is you don't actually have the money in your pocket because you haven't actually sold the asset. So you think about people who have put the family farm in their superannuation fund or a commercial property which is going to support them in their retirement. They can't sell a piece of that to pay and increase in the value. So the government's really asking for its tax ahead of time when people don't actually have the money to pay for it.
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Speaker 1: A lot of people who are in a position to do it will make voluntary repayments additions to they are super payments. Can you see them deciding not to do that in the future, Well, that is our concern.
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Speaker 18: So, like I said, we want everyday Australians who are working hard to make good choices and not spend all of their money today, but think about tomorrow. The less attractive you make that, the more costly you make it, then people are not necessarily going to be incentive. So absolutely it's going to change people's choices. And again we're not talking about the small number of rich baby boomers today perhaps or even the hard working ones that made these choices at the time, but we're thinking about the future and how people are going to make choices, and we don't want to see people reliant on the pension. That's the whole point of stick preanuation.
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Speaker 1: I think the den age of the wage is what you said that the Treasure has said that it's only going to impact eighty thousand people, but from what you've said, that number is going to grow dramatically over the coming.
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Speaker 18: Years, Yeah, very quickly, and if it relies on the greens they've proposed a two million dollar threshold, which brings in another fifty thousand people or sorry funds today. So you think with inflation going the way that it is, as their price increases going the way they are, And that's not to mention property and other kinds of assets are being increasingly taxed by state governments and others. So the burden on the taxpayer is increasing as the government continues to try and find ways to tax things and to us unrealized capital gain when you don't even have the money in the bank. That's really a threshold that we don't want to see breached.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I could put real pressure on people, couldn't it. I mean, all of a sudden, you get this bill from the tax office for ten thousand dollars and you don't have the assets to pay it.
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Speaker 8: That's right, And.
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Speaker 18: Who's to say that that valuation is correct. So from an accounting point of view and a tax advice point of view, a lot of assets are a liquid so you can't sell them that easily or it's very hard to value. And then you have highly volatile investments. Let's say crypto, where the value can change from day to day and you might get caught out on the thirtieth of June. So there's a lot of uncertainty, and it's based on things that have not actually been realized, and the money.
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Speaker 8: Is not fair.
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Speaker 1: Do you think when it comes to super when the government's concerned it should be just hands off and leave it as it is.
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Speaker 8: It's not so much hands off.
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Speaker 18: We do accept that at that upper end, and the lower end is well. You need to continuously review the rates and the points at which you're taxing things. So from our view, it's always good to see where the tax is being drawn and who's carrying the burden. But having no indexation and taxing un realized capital gains, is it a step too far for us?
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Speaker 1: It looks like this is a fat of complete though, doesn't it. It looks like it will pass the Upper House and then it will be inforced and we'll all have deliver it.
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Speaker 18: It's a challenge because at the end of the day, the government represents the people and they need to be responsible for good policy design. So what we are calling on them to do is to just reflect and think about is there a way to generate those couple of billion dollars of revenue to set the tax rates the right way, rather than breaking these fundamental principles of tax law in Australia.
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Speaker 1: Ellen, I thanks so much for insight today. I appreciate it.
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Speaker 18: Thank you Ellen.
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Speaker 1: The Cassipedes CPA Australia Chief of Policy. The super tax, they're saying we'll impact more Australians. The Treasurer is say, oh, buy eighty thousand, you know, just a drop in the bucket. It'll raise two billion dollars in its first year. That will grow I think to nine billion dollars after that, and way more beyond that. But three million dollars I think most of us would say, look, gee, if you've got three million dollars in your super account, you're set for life. But just to look a little bit down the track, that three billion dollars won't buy three million dollars worth today. I think Glenn said that going back forty years thirty that would be an increase of it would relate to every dollar You've only got thirty four cents. So three million dollars is not going to go far. Hi gig are blodd bureaucracy, the Commonwealth Public service has grown by forty eight percent in the last decade to three hundred and sixty five four hundred. There are also thirty five thousand staff in the so called green sector of our three levels of government. This is a wage and excess of twenty five billion dollars. What do we get for this? Not much. Bear in mind there is only twenty nine thousand personnel in outstanding army. And that is the truth, isn't it. Someone says it's a bit rich for Vodafone to be calling out their opposition when it's they who have the worst coverage in the country. Look, I take your point that Vertefhone's coverage isn't as good as Telstra's. That is irrefutable. But Vertefon's beef is the fact that Telsra are effectively lying when they're coverage, saying the millions of square kilometers that there their service covers is not true. To get coverage in some areas you need to put up an aerial antenna and lots of infrastructure. It could cost you one thousand dollars up to two thousand dollars. So we want truth and advertising, don't we? So maybe Tulsra. In fact, Telstra does give you bigger coverage, but they don't give you the coverage that they claim that they do. Bradley says, regarding the super tax, the eighty thousand people affected when it was announced two years ago would have been based on twenty twenty twenty one data. Since then, property prices and share prices have surge, so there will be a lot more effective when it starts, probably two to three times that number. Well, won't hear from the government, will we They will not be telling us the exact figure, There's no question about that. But with inflation going the way it does, and prices going the way they do, and real estate going the way it does, all of a sudden, they're going to need so many people who are asset rich, asset multi millionaires. But when it comes to converting that into cash, they'll have to sell their property. Crazy, crazy, crazy. From what I have read in the last two days, judges and politicians will be exempt from the super tax. This is just unbelievable. Why should they be exempt and make themselves wealthy and we keep struggling just to get by. There's a difference in the super that they pay. They have a different structure they pay tax. I don't know the exact detail, but there is a reason that they do not come under this super tax. I don't agree with it, but there is an exemption a double two to three double oh double. The number to ring two billion dollars divided by eighty thousand people equals twenty five thousand dollars payable in tax from each of those. I'm still absolutely dumbfounded. People can be taxed on unrealized gains, and that is the elephant in the room. Isn't it being taxed on unrealized gains? So they're sort of saying, it's like when the share market goes up. You've bought a share for a dollar and that share goes up to two dollars, Well, you've made one hundred percent profit. Well no, unless you sell it, then you've made the profit. But if you don't sell it, it's an unrealized gain. And this will be the case with superannuation. You're super which will be tied up in shares and the like could go up quite a lot, and all of a sudden you've got ten thousand dollars more and unrealized gains. And at the end of the year the tax deparmentles say, ah, okay, you've made a profit of ten thousand dollars, here's your tax bill. So what happens in future years when there's a loss and it goes backwards, Well, you don't get that money back. What they then say to you is well that will offset future profits, so you will not get that money back in hand. You know, it's some beautiful way it works. Kale says, this is labor taxing hard working Australians to pay for all their handouts and pay student debts. Also, hows it so that politicians are exempt from this tax? The opposition need to hold labor to account for this? Well, the opposition are pretty well not existent. I'm afraid Susan Lee's got to get them into shape as quickly as possible. I always say that a government is only as good as the opposition allows it to be, and with a poor opposition we don't necessarily get good government. So let's hope the opposition gets together as soon as possible and puts up at least a good case as to why these things should not happen. What are your thoughts? Eight double two three double will take a break back shortly five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings eight past eleven, five double A on this Tuesday morning. Delightful day that it is after a pretty chilly start, but it's pretty good now. Not mining it at all. From the text line, it's unbelievable Albo gets voted back in and what does he do to thank everyone? Bring in a ridiculously unfair tax. So we work hard all of our lives and if we're lucky, we can turn the heater on now and then. Well, to be fair, this super tax was in the works well before the election. In fact, has already passed the lower House. It only has to pass the upper House. So the Labor Party no doubt has done a deal with the Greens and it will be passed. Graham, we need to protest against this crazy and stupid Albanesi tax. H GG. This new tax is very concerning. What can we do to prevent it happening? Is there anything we have worked so hard to be self funded retirees as not to be a burden on the government. It is a slap in the face when the government sees us as cash cars. Jan Well said, that is so truly said, And I think the original concept when Paul Keating had the idea of superannuation that paid superannuas, was that it would take the burden off the government. It would ease the burden that the government faced paying more and more people going on to the pension and the like. But this way they're taking it both ways, aren't they. If you're self funded, if you've been paying into your superfund all those years, it gets beyond three million dollars and they're going to say, h we'll have a little bit of that. I don't think there's much you can do because it seems to be a fad of complea. It will go before the Upper House and the next I don't think Parliament is sitting in for another month or so. But when it does, it will pass, I would think, and then you will be paying. I'll be paying. Well, I won't be paying, but you might be paying if you've got three million dollars or more. A double two three double double oh is the number to ring Australia's native bees are under threat. High densities of European honey bees could be harming Australia native bees, altering key traits linked to survival. I love bees and anytime they're under threat, I'm very concerned and joining me in how is catch your Oxitan from the School of Agriculture, Food and Wine at the University of Adelaide catch you A good morning to you, thanks for your time today.
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Speaker 11: Good morning, Graham.
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Speaker 1: Do we have anything to worry about? Our native bees under threat?
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Speaker 8: Yes, our native bees around the threat. The biggest threat is climate change. What happens in a drought like we have at the moment in Adelaide is that the bees cannot find any food. And if the solitary bees cannot find any food, they cannot reproduce. And that's an issue because they won't live until the next year. So what we will see is a big dip in the bee numbers in next year, and if the weather is good, they will recover again. But if it stays like this dry then or is again this dry next summer, then we will see further dips. And it's it's a real concern. Honey bees, the feral honeybees. That the honeybees are an introduced species. They're out there nesting in our eucalypt They provide strong competition for our native bees. Unfortunately, and the beekeepers that have bees, they have to all feed their bees because their bees can't find anything either. Those bees are important for pollination obviously.
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Speaker 1: Crop pollination bees under threat overall. I believe you're among researchers have discovered seventy new native bee species.
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Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, that is a very good news story. We discovered, Well, there's a lot to discover yet in Australia. Basically there are a lot of areas where we didn't look very well and many of these these bees have been discovered in quite remote areas and then we only know them from one one location of course, so that is also very important that we know more because we don't even know whether we urgently have to protect these locations or off.
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Speaker 1: What I say here native these belonging to these what's that then?
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Speaker 10: Ah?
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Speaker 8: Yeah, the seventy one species new species that we found all belonged to the resin pop bees, and the resin pop bees are very special. They're only in Australia that Australia has so many We all know about kangaroos and cohalas as endemics, but we also have all of our nearly all of our insects are endemic to Australia. And so all our bees, nearly all our bees are and and so we've found these seventy one new species in one little group. And the females, they're solitary. They each do their own thing. They don't have workers and queens, et cetera. They don't make honey. But they build little resinme pods for their offspring and fill that with pullen a nectar and laying egg on it and then close it. And these resin pods are hanging off a branch or of bark often and that is where their offspring develops.
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Speaker 1: Wow, how many species would they be in Australia.
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Speaker 8: Well, at the moment it's now that we've added around seventy, it would be seventeen hundred and seventy. We do think that there are still about seven eight hundred to be discovered.
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Speaker 1: And I mean, is this number growing all the time? Is there a lot of cross breeding?
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Speaker 8: There's not. Evolution doesn't go that fast. Evolution definitely does keep up with extinction at the moment, unfortunately. But the only thing we can do is make sure we care for it right. We can keep it if we care for it.
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Speaker 1: When it comes to two bees, are they migratory. I mean, do you find the same sort of bees all over Australia, or you know there's some you know in South Australia that aren't common in Queensland and the like, or do they sort of pretty much spread over the nation?
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Speaker 8: That there are some species that are pretty widespread and they often are very generalists in their taste for food, food plants, but there are very very many local specialists as well, and there are very many species that we know from one or only a few locations, and so it's a bit of a mixed back then.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, well, with over seventeen hundred to look at, you've got a lot of work to do. CUTCHA, thank you so much for your time today. That's cutcher Hook and Dawn with the School of Agriculture, Food and Wine at the University of Adelaide. Seventy one new Australian bee species discovered. That adds to the seventeen hundred that we already have. What about the I should have asked about the Ligurian bees on on kangar Island, unique the purest breed on the planet. I believe a double two three double double. Oh, we're going to take a break and after that it's Australian Made Week and we're going to speak to something to somebody who is uniquely South Australian and they're putting out a product that is specially South Australian five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings at nineteen past eleven five Double A. There's growing speculation about the future of the Coalition in Candra this morning, I mean drawn out negotiations over a new deal between the Liberals and the Nationals. Nationals leader David little Proud is speaking to the media at Parliament our as we speak. The party says Little Proud will make an announcement in relation to the coalition agreement and we will have that as soon as it comes to hand. Certainly, if we don't have it between now and midday, I'm sure we will, but certainly Kendall Bretty will have the latest. Well, if you didn't know it, this is Australian Made Week, a celebration of Australian made products and the people who make them. It's my very great pleasure to welcome into the studio Steve Ranchich, production manager of Adriatic Slumber Betting. Steve, good morning.
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Speaker 7: To you, a morning Graham, How are you good.
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Speaker 1: Thanks, It's lovely to have you here as part of Australian Made Week. It's an important time, I think, because if ever in our history, we need to celebrate all that's good about Australia is now and when it comes to manufacturing and business and so forth, so much is done offshore and we really appreciate when, in particular South Australian business is such a success story. So you're a production manager at Adriatic Slumber Betting. What's the history of your company? Has it been operating?
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Speaker 7: We've been there fifty years. My parents started it back in nineteen seventy four, right not far from here, actually a small shop in Sturt Street in the city. Dad was an escapee escape from Croatia fifty five two years in camp there and came here as a refugee, met mum and then yeah, started the company in fourth of July nineteen seventy four.
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Speaker 1: So long history, ye, why Betting, I mean that just seems to be an unusually area to get into, in a specialized area.
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Speaker 7: When Dad was in Italy, he rolled a cart around. He'd get a leaf passed from the camp and roll a cart around to some Italian families and roll edge the mattresses and put new filling in them. So that's where the trade started. He'd had posted a few chairs once he landed here in Adelaide and then got a job with BBB Betting, and that's what started it and has then gone on from there. He was a foreman at sleep Maker and several other places and had the nickname of the boy with the Golden hands, so the magic touch. Eventually him and Mum he went and started his own through a friend that suggested that he should be out on his own.
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Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean that'd be a big risk, wouldn't it. I mean, if you've got no financial backing and so forth, to decide to leave the comfort and safety of a regular wage to say, well, I'm going to start out on my own. Correct.
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Speaker 7: No car till he was at the age of forty, Mum and him had catched the bus into the city every day. In Sirt Street there was a phone box out the front. I remember a story where he told me that one of the blokes, I think it was from Cox Foys, took six mattresses and he asked him to take on for him, and he rang him the next day from the phone box, he said, how'd you go with those beds made? He said, oh, they're all sold. He said, well can you give me another six?
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Speaker 1: Really?
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Speaker 7: And then from there it's gone on. And you know the little corn news day is Graham and A Central furnitures and radio rentals. You know Harris Scarf's massive players that were back in the thing. And you know all of those icon companies are closing down or gown.
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Speaker 1: Adriad X uplive them more.
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Speaker 7: And we're still there after fifty years. So the loyalty of the South Australian people to our company is second to none. And it's an emotional time. It's hard, but we we'll keep pushing on.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can well imagine, I mean, and if you're passionate about it. And I can tell that you are passionate about it too. So did you willingly come into the business? Do you have ideas to do anything else?
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Speaker 7: I left school when I was fourteen years old and sort of like got told, well, you're either staying at school or you're coming to work for me. So I did go and work for dad. I've done something different. After about twenty years, went out on my own and then I think it was probably the best thing I'd done. I came back and after about six years, and you know, I love what we do.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we got a great product. What is the secret of a good mattress? Number one?
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Speaker 7: I think it needs to be local. There's plenty of local people here.
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Speaker 1: The product's got to be right.
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Speaker 7: What we source, the materials that we use, we get whatever we can from South Australia. We back with the disabled people down at the Track Furniture they make all our base fames, Joyce fomes, our products that we put a second and none the wall that we use, and pocket springs. There's pocket springs, there's you know, there's good and bad and everything sow. You really got to know what you're looking at on hands on I work. I still make beds by hand. Our staff are very very loyal, well trained and good at what they do and take pride in the product. So, you know, I think if people go into a shop, they need to ask for a local product. That's the key. If they ask where's it made? Is it done here? You know, if there's a problem, we all get problems.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but at least major production line in China.
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Speaker 7: Or you know, there's changes that can be made, there's things that can be done.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: So yeah, you know we are a great great respect and you know we're very lucky. That's South Australian people, as you well know, are very very loyal.
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Speaker 1: They certainly are only only only loyal to a good product. They're not going to be loyal to something that's substandard. Yes, so you've got to be producing something of high quality or like all of us, you want you want value for money, Corre, that's all you ask for.
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Speaker 7: Correct.
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Speaker 1: When it comes to bedding, it's a very personal. I know when the last time we bought a mattress, you know, everybody someone will say, oh this, this sort of mattress is good. You want it really firm, and that doesn't suit me. So you know you can't tailor make it to every single person. So how many different sort of varieties of mattress and hardness and so forth would you have?
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Speaker 7: Oh look, we do combination bet a thing called combination bed now where one half is firm, one half radium. Yeah, you can flip it over and have soft. So we try and cater for everything. We use a liquid gel phone which is great for pressure saws. And all of that sort of things. We do adjustable beds. So there's so many different varieties that are out there, and we're into getting more into a niche mark. And I think now where there's pillow tops and top end product, that's what the people are looking for. They want great they want good quality, they want something that's going to last. And we've got second generation where people from you forty years ago that brought the back backrest that my dad first bought out registered by Chiropractice ring and ask for the same product today, Oh can we still get that bed? Yeah, we can get that bed. It's updated, of course, and it's better now. And then you know our commercial range and everything else that we do in hotels and everything we get people that look at the label ring up and ask for the same product that they've just been sleeping on in a hotel.
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Speaker 1: With mattresses. Is do they have a life? Do they at some stage just give out? And that's it.
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Speaker 7: I think that you know, when you're looking at a single sided bed, you're probably seven to eight years, ten years. But with a double side of bed, you know, if you're looking at a double side of pillow top, like our anniversary run at the moment that we're doing. You flip the bed if it's slit two or three times a year. That's why it's designed to sleep on the other side and rotate it. You should expect to get at least ten years out of the problem. As I said, if there's a problem, we're here, We're in the state, we're here.
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Speaker 1: And that's very reassuring if you pick up the phone, absolutely and not speak to a robot.
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Speaker 7: Absolutely. We don't turn people away. You know, if they've bought a product and you know they're a month and it's too hard now, you know, look they've gone back.
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Speaker 1: To the shop. We help.
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Speaker 7: We do what we can if they're to make them happy and make sure they're satisfied.
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Speaker 1: What are your most popular mattresses?
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Speaker 7: Probably the Liquid Gel and the Summer Winter and at the moment the fifty year one that we're doing, the Celebration bed, which is coming with two mattress protectors, a mattress protector and two pillows. That's absolutely flying out. It's a medium bed. But our top products at the moment that seem to be moving a liquid gel, one sided pocket spring beds and Summer Winter, where obviously wintertime, one side's got wool, and summertime you're sleeping on a dakron surface which is much cooler.
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Speaker 1: So if I mean, we don't buy mattresses and bedding all that often, but when we do people are looking for advice, do they come stray to you at Adriatic or outlet retail outlets.
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Speaker 7: Or yeah, we've got retail outlets. They can ring the factory. We're more than happy to help them and guide them through where to go and what are the stores. We've got stock us in Adelaide and right through this outh Australian country area, massive support from the country area, Portagusta, Cadena, Tenant, craw Northern Territory. So yeah, they can just they can ring us. We've had people they'll come down to the factory because I'm a manufacturer and have a look at the product and ask questions how it's made and what's what, and then we got them off to a shop.
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Speaker 1: So, Steve, what is the future for the Adriatic. Will it continue on in the family after you? I mean, you've got a lot of years left in you. But where's it go from here? Yeah?
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Speaker 7: I'd like to think so, I hope it continues on. It'll depend a lot, I think on the support that we get from South Australia. If that continues, I'm sure will be there.
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Speaker 1: So we'll keep up the product and the standard you have and I'm sure you'll be around for a long time yet. Yeah, thank you, gra thanks for dropping by. Well, you appreciate your chat. Steve Ranchers, production manager of Adriatic Slumber Bedding. It's part of Australia and made week a celebration of Australian and made products and the people who make them. Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings twenty two twelve five A well, a bombshell out of Canada, where there was growing speculation about the future of the coalition the Liberals and the Nationals met. Nationals leader David Littleploud spoke to the media only a short time ago, and this is what he had to say.
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Speaker 19: We have set out on our journey of trying to reshape a coalition agreement.
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Speaker 1: Now I'm going to make it clear from.
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Speaker 19: The start and the outset we've done that at the pace of Susan Lee, taking into account and respecting the personal circumstances that she's found herself in this morning, after the discussions that both Susan Lay and I have had over the ensuring period, our party room has got to a position where we will not be re entering a coalition agreement with the Liberal Party after this election. What we have got to a position is that the National Party will sit alone on a principal basis, on the basis of looking forward, not having to look back, and to try and actually regain important policy pieces that change the lives of the people we represent. It's on a pressiple position of making sure that those hard fought wins are maintained.
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Speaker 1: Well there it is David Little Proud announcing the coalition is no more. Along an extensive meeting with Susan Lee, the new leader of the Liberal Party, they could not reach a level of agreement. We don't know the detail at this stage, but now dut Kendall will have more in the news at midday. But the coalition no longer exists. So what does that mean? Probably with the sitting of Parliament, not a whole lot. But when it comes to the next election, the Liberal Party already decimated, the National Party pretty well held its seats and did okay at the election, So what does that mean for the next election three years away. But I'm sure the Labor Party is sitting back smirking, saying, there you go, three more years, three more years eight double two to three is the number to ring GM. We are oged to buy Australia and South Australia and support local companies, but not every family can do that because in most cases the product is more expensive. You have to weigh up a whole lot of factors. But if there's only a little difference and you can support the local product because the money that you spend here stays here. The money you spend on and overseas into state product ends up inter state. So consider that. Weigh that up. It might be a little bit more expensive as long as the quality is right up there, because I don't agree with buying if the quality is inferior. If the quality is up there, the price is pretty reasonable, pretty similar. Remember the money does stay in this part of the world. This year, the first National Living with Dementia Survey is going to be conducted. The Australian Institute of Health and Welfare, University of Canberra will be recruiting people living with dementia to tell us more is Associate professor at the University of Canberra, Nathan Dakuna. Nathan, good morning to you.
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Speaker 17: Good morning Graham.
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Speaker 1: What can you tell us about this Living with Dementia Survey.
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Speaker 17: Yeah, So the survey is a national project and its purpose is to gather firsthand information about the experiences and the needs and different challenges based by people living with dementia and the people who care for them. So it covers a range of topics like receiving a dementia diagnosis, the coordination of care and use of their support services, and the types of support available for those people who support them.
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Speaker 1: Has there been nothing like this done before?
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Speaker 17: No, there hasn't been anything close to this expensively done in terms of talking to people with dementia, learning about their experiences and how they are coping with navigating the healthcare system. So it's really going to have an impact. Are potentially in response to the National Dementia Action Plan that was released in December last year.
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Speaker 1: So are you just talking to people with dementia or their families as well?
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Speaker 17: They're also talking to their families. So we need to recruit two thousand people with dementia and two thousand care partners. So we do want to get the experience of those who do care for people with dementia, who play such an important role in our health economy and keeping people living well in the community of with dementia.
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Speaker 1: There's so much that's still unknown about dementia, so I guess you're having this will reveal more for you.
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Speaker 17: Yeah, that's right. We know that people have challenges receiving a timely diagnosis and there's still a lot of stigma around dementia in the community, so we want to learn more about those experiences and how so we can inform the government to design policy and commit funding to help make that process a bit smoother and enable people to improve their quality of life and maintain their well being for as long as possible while living in the community. I mean, we definitely know that it challenging people to navigate the age care system as well, so trying to identify those challenges and hopefully come up with some solutions down the trap.
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Speaker 1: What sort of questions will be asked during the survey.
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Speaker 17: So in particular, we want to know about how soon they were able to see a doctor or medical specialist to receive a diagnosis, what sort of delays there were in receiving that, particularly once people receive a diagnosis. We know how important it is for people to get early intervention and to be connected with services and to have a toolkit in place for the future, but quite often that's delayed for a number of different reasons. We want to ask them how quickly they are getting referred to Dementia Australia for example, or to other community supports. We also want to find out about their experiences of stigma within the community and how that is possibly providing barriers to receiving that timely access and support. We want to know what they think about the services that they use as well, whether they're appropriate to their needs and whether they are suitable for people with dementia.
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Speaker 1: I guess that is a trying and very difficult time for the family of someone something from dementia know how to handle them. Is there anywhere to go to get that sort of advice? You know? You know, my mother is a mind is wandering and she keeps asking the same questions and so forth. Do we correct or do we go with her? I mean there are more questions and answers I would.
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Speaker 17: Think, yeah, that's right. It can be challenging and quite often a lot of people are sort of bombarded with information after receiving a diagnosis, which can be quite overwhelming and paralyzing for some. We know that Dementia Australia across the country do provide a lot of that great early support after receiving a diagnosis, but we know that that's not enough. There needs to be more within the public health system and we know that people need assistance being connected to what support and what's funding is available to them.
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Speaker 11: There's a lot of people.
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Speaker 17: Out there doing a lot of great work, but things aren't well connected and we need to make sure that people do have a sort of a clear path after receiving that diagnosis. I think, like you alluded to, it can be quite confronting at first once receiving that diagnosis. And making sure that supports are available at different stages of that dementia pathway as well as going is really important for Australians with dimension.
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Speaker 1: How do you go about getting people to take part in the survey.
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Speaker 17: So we want people to go to our partner Step Up for Dementia Research and to register for that and they'll be able to be connected to the survey through there. So if you just go to Google on search for a step up for dementia research, it will come up and it's a really easy to follow process and it's a really great website that helps connect people to researchers around Australia and we'll get people connected to the survey as well.
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Speaker 1: The issue of dementia is a very sensitive one and people would be wary that, you know, giving out this information. How is the survey information protected?
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Speaker 17: Yeah, so all provided is kept confidential. No identifying information will be released as part of the survey. It's all collated information and we were reporting the total sample as a whole. We do have a number of different options for people to complete the survey where they would like to do it by a phone, or by a video interview or by a paper and everything will be kept confidential. Here at the University of Camera where we're hosting.
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Speaker 1: The survey, will be very interested to see the outcome. Nathan Pacuna, Associate Professor at the University of Canberra on the upcoming Living with Dementia Survey eight double two three double From the text line, surely Susan Lee won't further infuriate the NATS and appoint their deserter JN Price to a shadow Captet position. Thank you, con Good morning, Gig. It's time for Australians to react like they do in Europe. We should all strike and protest in front of Parliament House and get our message across that we don't accept this and other issues that arise in this country. Australian's fortunately have the attitude. She'll be right, mate. The government can pass anything they want through without a fight. No use planning for the future as they keep changing the system and we do not know what we will find in front of us regards Tass, thank you for that, Tess. Yeah, we are pretty well laid back, aren't we in this country. In other countries they will you know, not right in the streets, but march in the streets to protest against government plans and moves. But in this country, she'll be right. Tony, good morning, a ground.
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Speaker 20: I would like to commend a better way you said was born and then yesterday. I better a man that starts now. And it's thirty forty year time. If it's a true life in four four million dollars, Yeah, do you read it's thirty forty year time? How many times the Parliament changes? Yes, yes, it's okayful now, but who knows what happens. It's thirty forty years time. It doesn't change this mind or work in the home in a week. Yeah, so I realized in forty years time the four million dollars and two million dollars, So I'm sure it will go up to four or four six seven million dollars in forty years to thirty.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, once, once a government introduces a text, they never go back. You're paying too much.
01:39:27
Speaker 20: You're paying too much, but I'm only commenced. And then you said, a guy in thirty four years time will make four and they will pay attack in forty years time it'll be probably the limit six seven million dollars.
01:39:42
Speaker 1: Plan, so it'll be even more your reckoning.
01:39:46
Speaker 20: No, no, the guy won't reach the amount.
01:39:49
Speaker 1: You won't needed. Is that what you're saying?
01:39:51
Speaker 20: Oh no, if he gets four million dollars in forty years time, Yeah, the limit will probably be eight million dollars for tex So.
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Speaker 1: You're sure they're not saying there's any limit at the moment though, they're not saying it at all. It's not indexed. They're just saying that's what it is. Now, you're hoping. You're hoping that a future government will extend it. You're hoping on their wills.
01:40:14
Speaker 20: Graham's forty years time. It's another world. All won't be here. You won't be here.
01:40:19
Speaker 1: No, that's right. Well, look, Tony, I hope you're right. And I certainly hope for that young person who has saved their money and work hard and gets a four million dollar payout that they will not have to suffer this super tax. But you know, if you're relying on the government to do the right thing, good luck, die, good morning, Good.
01:40:41
Speaker 21: Morning, Graham.
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Speaker 20: How I am today?
01:40:42
Speaker 1: Good? Thank you?
01:40:44
Speaker 20: Good Look.
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Speaker 21: You know what, I'm amazed this was all known about before the election.
01:40:49
Speaker 1: Yep.
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Speaker 21: Unfortunately, I think the Liberals really stuffed up in not pursuing this. But people voted this government in knowing this was coming in, so why are they winging about it.
01:41:03
Speaker 1: I've got to agree with you. I think the coalition, the Liberal Party in particular, did a very poor sales job on highlighting some of the failings and shortcomings of the government.
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Speaker 21: Oh, they did a shocking job. They should have actually watched sky News all throughout the campaign, because they were the only ones that I saw watched and heard that actually highlighted these two taxes like the unrealized games one.
01:41:32
Speaker 20: Plus the super one.
01:41:34
Speaker 21: So you know, look, it's going to affect us and my kids in the future. Hopefully we get a different government in the near future and they make changes to it.
01:41:48
Speaker 5: That's all I can hope for.
01:41:49
Speaker 1: Good on your day. Well, it's going to be a long time, I think, because the Liberals will come from a long way back because there is no coalition any longer. In a suggestion that the parties may return to coalition in the future, but at this moment in time, David Little Proud has announced that the coalition no longer exists. Eight double two three double O double is the number to ring. We were talking last week to call Geraldine who had some issues about my age care. This is what you had to say, Geraldine, good morning.
01:42:22
Speaker 22: It's concerned people on my age care. I see the letter about a week ago. The main point support at home also provides access to the new funding pathway. There is restorative care and pathway which will increase funding from eight weeks of care to twelve weeks. You will continue to receive the same funding level as you do with your home care package under support at Home. Your annual budget amount will be managed quarterly. Any unspent funds you currently have will still be available. If you do not spend your quarterly budget, you can care over a maximum of one thousand dollars or ten percent, whichever is greater to the next quarter. Now that means if I save up five thousand dollars, when it comes to the next quarter, I have to I can transfer one thousand dollars, but that four thousand dollars that goes back to the government.
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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's what it sounds like.
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Speaker 22: But sure assisted with a package to help you put that's what you help need help with your needs to stay at home. Now they're going to take some of that away. Do you can? And I hope Mark Butler gets this from the medium ologers.
01:43:36
Speaker 1: Too well, Geraldine. Mark Butler's office was notified about it. Unfortunately, he was unavailable for comment, but we did get a release from his department. Older Australians want to live at home for longer than and reformed Support at Home program will allow them to do just that. As part of our age care reforms, for the first time, older Australians will receive greater support through a dedicated funding scheme of up to fifteen thousand dollars for the products, equipment, and home modifications they need to live at home independently for longer. The Assistive Technology and Home Modification scheme allows people to have greater access to essential care services such as ramps or wheelchairs, et cetera. Under the Support Home at Program, participants can move unspent funds of up to one thousand dollars or ten percent of their quarterly budget, whichever is higher between quarters to provide financial support for unplanned needs. Now, this goes on and on and on, but Geraldine, I think that just reinforces what you are saying. So I still think we need to get clarification from Mark Butler's office as if you can carry over that excess money, because it would seem unfair if you can't. So we will try and find more clarification on that eight double two to three double double the number back shortly five Double.
01:44:47
Speaker 2: A Mornings with Graham, Goodings.
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Speaker 1: And the final eight minutes of the show. But after one you can have a chat with Stacey Lee. Stacey joins me. Now, good morning, Stacy.
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Speaker 23: Hello Graham, how are you good?
01:44:58
Speaker 1: All happening in Camber.
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Speaker 7: At the moment, it's all happening.
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Speaker 23: I was just listening to the press conference with the Nationals leaders David Little Proud, Kevin Hogan and Bridget Mackenzie.
01:45:08
Speaker 7: This is huge, certainly is.
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Speaker 1: I mean, how long has the coalition been in existence. I mean people sort of are seen as as acting as one for decade after decade, and all of a sudden the coalition is no longer.
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Speaker 23: I think it's necessary At the moment, I think this is a good move. I mean, at the end of the day, they are two different parties and have different interests certainly, and have to appeal two very different bases. And at the moment the Liberal Parties not really appealing to its previous base, I don't think in my opinion. And so when you have competing interests of the Liberal Party needing to win back some metropolitan seats because they've basically been wiped out in Metro Australia.
01:45:55
Speaker 1: I hardly hold a metropolitan seat anywhere in Australia. Yeah, which is amazing. I mean the National Party obviously is more regional and rural and they did pretty well, yeah, comparatively speaking.
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Speaker 23: So and that's where their focus is and should be. They represent regional Australia and the Liberal Party to a certain extent also does well. Now it largely does, but they do need to win back those metro seats and having a focus on nuclear energy. I was listening to the press conference and that was one of the big sticking points that David little Proud said. The parties couldn't agree on nuclear energy policy. They wanted that to be a part of the mix moving forward. So it seems like that was a clear difference for the two parties and I think this is good. I think the Deputy Nationals leader Kevin Hogan put it well.
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Speaker 7: He said this is.
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Speaker 23: A breakup, and couples break up and more often than not they come back together with a renewed interest, with shared interests and reinvigoration of being together and making it work. And I'm sure we will do that at some point before the election. To bring Anthony Albernezi down. I think we're his words.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's not like the Nationals are going to find another partner. They're not going to say, hey, these Greens look all.
01:47:05
Speaker 7: Right, well I don't know one nation.
01:47:07
Speaker 1: Ah okay, No.
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Speaker 7: I mean no, I don't think the natural right.
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Speaker 1: Coalition is their Liberal National Party. But for the time being I agree with you. I think it's a good move that they separate and go their own ways and do what's best for their constituents. Yeah, well what's left of them.
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Speaker 23: Yeah, absolutely, So we'll talk about it this afternoon. We'll go to Canberra. We'll find out what this means. Because of course it means that a lot of the Nationals MPs will lose money. They won't be shadow ministers.
01:47:39
Speaker 1: Oh of course, yeah, yeah, so the Liberal Party will have to provide all the shadow minister I don't know how deep their talent pool is.
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Speaker 23: I think they only have twenty eight seats and there's twenty nine portfolios or twenty nine ministers.
01:47:54
Speaker 1: It's forty nine portfolios.
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Speaker 23: There's thirty nine and ten of them are assistant Oh okay, you're assistant ministers. I was looking at it the.
01:48:03
Speaker 1: Other day, Jeeves.
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Speaker 23: Yeah, so's Yeah, there's twenty nine ministers and then ten assistant ministers that the government has. But yeah, it's very interesting. So there'll be lots of double ups. But it means, yeah, some of those Nationals MPs who were previously shadow ministers and were on a higher paypacker. It won't be on that anymore.
01:48:22
Speaker 1: I wonder if they thought about that.
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Speaker 23: So we'll break it all down this afternoon. We'll keep talking about it and speaking of splitting from your party. I will also have Jingle in the studio Upper House MP. She has announced that she will be running at the next state election under a banner of a new political party that she's launched. It's called Jingle Better Community. So she'll join me in the studio to talk about what the focus of her party will be, why she thought this move was necessary. Was it a tough call for her because when she announced she was leaving the Liberal Party, she hadn't quite made up her mind if she was going to contest the next election or not. So clearly she now has. She's registered a political party, she's got policies and I'm sure focuses that she wants to look at. And so I'll looking forward to having that chat with Jinglee, excellent, one of the current very big cross bench in the Upper House. We've got talk back gardening as well with Diane Hall, and we'll break down the interest rates decision as that happens this afternoon. We'll get it this afternoon we'll talk about the superannuation changes that are on the way.
01:49:27
Speaker 7: State of the arts.
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Speaker 23: Virginia Gay Cabaret festivals coming up very soon. Starts at the end of the month, and it's Turkey Tuesday, so I'm minded an extra our, Graham.
01:49:36
Speaker 1: You might not need to start early, Stacy Stacey Lee coming off up after one this afternoon. Let's take a call Ken good morning.
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Speaker 13: Oh, good morning, Graham.
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Speaker 17: I hope you're will very well.
01:49:46
Speaker 12: Thanks, that's the fellow.
01:49:48
Speaker 13: Look, I just received a bendy Go Bank email and and towards knowing about it, I'm not a Bendigo Bank customer, so on delete.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be definitely. It's a good warning for other people though that it might be Bendigo Bank customers' what's it saying? What's it asking of you?
01:50:12
Speaker 9: The confirmation of your identification?
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Speaker 13: I hit a link and everything like that. Yeah, so I'm not a customer of theirs anyway, So I just thought I'd give you a call and put it out there for you.
01:50:25
Speaker 1: No good on you can thank you very much for doing that. And I encourage people that if you get something that you think is a scam, alert people because the more people that we alert the better. Bendigo Bank, like all the banks, are subject to scams. They're on their Facebook page, You've got the scam alert. We're aware that scamers are currently posing as members from our fraud team. I may call or send an SMS message indicating you've been exposed to fraud or that your Internet banking has been compromised. They say things to remember. Bendigo Bank will never request personal information such as PIN password, sixty to E banking security code, or ask you to log into online services from an email or SMS. They will never ask you to click on a link, et cetera, et cetera. If you have any queries you're never sure or not sure about something, ring your bank, if it be Bendigo Bank or any other bank, ring them direct. Don't click on links from on texts or emails, and when in doubt, assume it's a fake, because many, many times it is. Good on you Ken. Thank you for that, and I encourage anyone who is not so sure about something that they think it's a scam ring us up, give us a call and we'll check it out for you. That's it for today, Thank you so much for your company. We'll be back tomorrow to do it again.
01:51:40
Speaker 2: Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings
Speaker 1: Good morning. It's eight past nine five a this Tuesday, May twenty. Hope we find you well after another pretty chilly morning turned into another delightful day. Well. I see Adelades made it near the top of a world list. It's a list that we'd rather not be on. We are ranked sixth among the twenty least affordable cities for housing. I'll repeat that, We're ranked sixth among the twenty least affordable cities for housing. Four Australian cities have been labeled impossibly unaffordable in the twenty twenty five Demographia International Housing Affordability Report. Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide and Perth all ranked among the twenty least affordable cities globally, out of ninety five major housing markets across Australia, Canada, China Island, New Zealand, Singapore, the UK and the US. The survey, conducted by Chapman University Center for Demographics and Policy, track global housing affordability for two decades. It highlights the growing challenge of housing inflation worldwide. Now he was the second least affordable city in the world after Hong Kong, followed by Adelaide. At sixth, Melbourne ninth, Brisbane eleventh, and Perth eighteen Sydney, Adelaide. Melbourne and Brisbane were classified as impossibly unaffordable, while Perth was deemed severely unaffordable. Now even Adelaide, the smallest market among them, recorded a medium multiple of ten point nine that ranked at ninetyeth out of ninety five, worse than global cities like New York, London and Chicago. The report noted that middle income households once had broad access to home ownership, with housing prices closely tied to incomes. Since the nineteen nineties, however, prices have surged, breaking that alignment, as were all too well aware, a major factor behind this crisis is population growth. Since two thousand, Australia's population has increased by around forty one percent, growing from roughly nineteen million to nearly twenty seven million by the end of this year. Immigration accounts for about sixty percent of this increase, up to five million people, while natural population growth contributed a proper slimately three million. Meanwhile, housing construction has failed to keep pace. In twenty twenty three twenty four, Australia built only about one hundred and seventy four thousand new dwellings. That's well below the National Housing Accords annual target of two hundred and forty thousand. The December twenty twenty four quarters or forty one thousand, nine hundred eleven dwellings commenced that was down four point four percent. Approvals in March fell by eight point eight percent. High interest rates, labor shortages, rising costs, and bureaucratic delays have hindered progress, with over thirty four thousand approved dwellings still not started as a mid twenty twenty four. The government's goal to build one point two million homes by twenty twenty nine is ambitious to build it mildly. Potential interest rate cuts in twenty twenty five may help. Surging population growth continues to outpay supply, deepening the housing affordability crisis. From twenty twenty four, or no, let's take it back. From twenty twenty two to twenty twenty four, there have been one million, four hundred and six thousand arrivals in Australia so far this year, an estimated one hundred and six thousand. This total's roughly one million, five hundred and seventy three thousand migrant arrivals in less than three years, and there's your problem. They all have to live somewhere. I'd like to know your thoughts. Eight double two three double o doublo is the number to ring. We'll speak with the Property Council Essay executive director Bruce Jette about the disturbing Adelaide figure. What can be done about it? Is enough being done about it at a federal and state level and I'd like to know your thoughts. Eight double two to three double o doublo the number to ring. Also on the show today, that three million dollar of super tanks that the government's talking about will impact a greater number of Australians and is being acknowledged. We'll speak to the Charted Practicing account and Superannuation lead Richard Webb about that this morning. Had you heard John Paul Drake from Drakes has had some very harsh words to say about trolls making racist comments about his staff and good on him too. We'll speak with John Paul Drake later this morning. Now, if you're listening yesterday you might have heard a call of Sioux from Murraytown and the Flinders Rangers. She'd be having huge problems with getting phone connectivity. In fact, she said she had to head off into the bush and upper hill somewhere to be able to speak with us, and she's had trouble getting some sense out of Telster. Well, we've been in touch with Tulster and Sue. If you're listening, we have a reply for you, so be listening for that. I see Australia's native bees are under threat. High densities of European honey bees could be harming Australian native bees by reducing their reproductive success and altering key traits linked to survival. Not a good thing as we realize the importance of bees in our structure. This's the first ever Living with Dementia survey about to commence. How can you take part? What do you need to know about it? We'll find out about that too. I was just thinking what a vast and remarkable country we live in. While we're in the midst of the worst stroud in SA in decades. Residents in parts of New South Wales have been told to evacuate immediately amid heavy rains and flash flooding. Ses IS warning it may be too late for people to be rescued if they wait. An emergency warning went out last night for parts of Patterson and Dungog. But it's incredible, isn't it. We look out at clear blue skies, we might see a little bit of rain over the weekend, and yet on the eastern seaboard more flooding. And how much fighting have they had over the past twelve months or so. It is quite remarkable. From the text line Jason says regarding the algall bloom, SA water treat blooms on large reservoirs with success using copper sulfate. I wonder if something like this concept can be used to treat this bloom that is eco friendly. Yeah, good question, Jason. You would have thought they would have considered that there might be aspects that would damage the environment. I don't know, but it's certainly worth considering because that algall bloom is terrifying. They estimated us about the size of Kangaroo Island incomprehensible water temperatures are two and a half degrees higher than normal, and that is impacting marine life in an absolutely tragic way. And hopefully what do they need? Cooler weather and lots of wind to disperse the Alga Bloom. Let's hope that happens soon. A lot is happening eight double two to three double double Oh is the number to ring if you want to take part on the show today. I yesterday I was talking about Victoria announcing free public transport for kids and I post the question should we bring it here? We have an response from the government and the Green's MLC is also pushing for fifty cent fares for everyone. Rob Sims will join us a little bit later on all that and more happening on the show today. Hope you can join us five Double.
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Speaker 2: A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Eighteen past nine five double A this Tuesday morning, May twenty. Hope we find you well well. Yesterday we had a caller Sue from Murraytown in the Flinders Ranges. She'd been having problems, huge problems in fact, getting phone connectivity and has had real trouble getting some sense from Telster. So good morning.
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Speaker 3: We've got no coverage our place for Telester or the neighbor's place, and we haven't had any for over a week. So we can't even contact Triple O. It keeps saying the service unavailable. I can't get through to anybody. I got in touch and we went over to Port Pirie and they tried everything. They called it's just a selling shop there, and they said get in touch with Telster and I said, we can't ring Telster.
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Speaker 4: We can't wuthering anybody.
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Speaker 3: It's very frustrating when people wring us. All right, they're coming from outside, so it actually rings at our place. I can't pick it up. They can't hear me texting. I want to text. If I want to text, I've got a walk halfway across a paddock here.
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Speaker 5: To get a text out that rangers.
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Speaker 1: Yesterday, well, my produce, Sir Patrick, contacted Telster and sue This was their statement issued to us. We are investigating the concerns of the customer provided and will make contact directly with them regarding their issue. Our engineering team are currently performing an analysis of the area. Customers can continue to make calls and send texts during disruption to mobile services by switching on Wi Fi calling. This is a free setting on most popular mobile phones and allows your mobile to make and receive mobile calls while connected to Wi Fi. So Sue, Telster will be in touch and Sue you're on the line now, Yan are you there? Are we hearing you loud and clear?
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Speaker 3: Yes, because I drove down a poor period to make sure I got the call A.
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Speaker 1: Do you shouldn't have to do that? And this is twenty twenty five, not eighteen twenty five. So what do you think of Telster's response?
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Speaker 3: How am how am I going to contact this?
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Speaker 1: Oh there's a question, isn't that?
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Speaker 3: And just you know, it worked perfectly when the three D was on. As soon as they put four gy on it, it was in any outing. But not only me, but the neighbor who's got a smartphone for dumb people. He can't get any either.
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Speaker 1: So so what sort of smartphone have you.
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Speaker 3: Got to I've got a just an ordinary pick me up and open it up and I can text or get messages and ring out. That is all that you know? One that a free one that Chelester gave us when they turned off the other one.
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Speaker 1: Oh right? Do you know if it has Wi Fi calling?
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Speaker 6: I doubt it.
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Speaker 3: I haven't looked, but I don't think it has. I think you know, it'll only hold twenty I think, or twenty five contacts. Anyway, it cut off all the.
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Speaker 1: Others, so well, I don't know how they're going to get in touch with you.
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Speaker 3: I don't know either. I've got a smartphone for dumb people. I've got a Galaxy, and that will not work here. It'll ring, but I can't answer it and I cannot ring out. Well, but they wet Telster. The guy from the Chester shop in pop PORI, I mean, sorry, poor Piri said they had been contacted by text or somebody and there's nothing wrong. Oh is that a fact? There's nothing wrong?
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Speaker 7: Well?
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Speaker 8: Sorry.
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Speaker 3: I spoke to Chris Mark some while ago about this and he told me that, you know, I could get an antenna. You know, it's about one thousand dollars and that might work.
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Speaker 1: Well, really, thank you very much, That's what.
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Speaker 3: I said, thank you, no thanks, and tells.
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Speaker 1: To tell us they've got this wonderful coverage all over the nation. They've been caught out.
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Speaker 3: Well, well we'll come up here and see if you can get anybody. Well, you can get anybody, but they can't get you.
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Speaker 1: Look, So what I suggest is I tell us to say they will be in touch with you. Now, give it a week, give it all, and let's know if they've been in touch or not. Okay, okay, I'll.
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Speaker 3: Drive down to poor Pirio.
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Speaker 1: Stay tuned. We're doing our best. Will we will do our best for you. But I mean we mentioned yesterday the spat between two major telcos, between Vodaphone and Telster. Vodaphone says Telsa has been misleading customers of the extent of its mobile network coverage, which it says has resulted in an unfair market advantage. Vodaphone alleges Telstra is engaged in misleading or deceptive conduct for more than fifteen years by overstating the reach of its mobile network by as much as forty percent. And there is a case in point with Sue, who has no coverage where there's claim to be coverage. Now, this particularly issue between Vodaphone and Telstra, I guess will be sorted out by the A Triple C. But there is a real issue with mobile networking coverage in the Bush. R MIT Associate Professor Mark Gregory has long been an advocate for reforms for improving rural telecommunications, and he joins me in no Mark, good morning to.
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Speaker 9: You, Good morning Graham.
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Speaker 1: Is do Sue's issue surprise you not at all?
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Speaker 9: This issue has been happening again and again since the three g turn off simply because of a couple of factors. One is the change in antennas that we used with the three gene network and the four gene network, and then how the signal pattern or the way that the signal moves away from the access points, the way that that's tuned. And as we saw yesterday, TPG has put it into the public domain. Something that we've known for quite a long period of time that the coverage maps provided by Telstra are coverage maps where you know you have an external antenna, and also in some areas they're they're overly ambitious, and so I don't find it surprising at all that we have customers that can't connect or or have you know, part short connection such as walking across a paddic to be able to send an SMS. What we need is performance standards, and I've been asking for this for more than ten years now. We need performance standards for telecommunications. It's one of the few industries where there are no performance standards, and it's really down to you get what you get and put up with it.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 9: I think that what we saw yesterday was Telstra's being called out the A Triple C needs to look very carefully at this and there's clear guidance about misrepresentation of what you're providing the customers. And Telstra has been caught out because they've now modified their website to include, oh will the coverage maps include we're you know, using external antennas and so therefore a fine needs to be levied on Telstra by the A triple C question is how big your fine? Given that this has been one of Telstra's major marketing points for the past twenty five years, it's really something that they've relied on with their marketing to you know, to a great extent. The fine needs to be large to harm to correlate with, you know, with that because there's many customers have relied upon this statement that our coverage is is you know, X y Z, but it's really not unless you have an external antenna, and the list of other things go on and on.
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Speaker 1: It could cost one thousand dollars.
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Speaker 9: They actually cost more than that time restored. And this statement that is continually thrown out saying that you know, you need to get an external antenna and and so forth, like you need to put on your house, you need to put on your car, you need to put it everywhere, but then need to walk along the street holding one. It's not acceptable for the average.
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Speaker 1: Person, But doesn't it so that with the three G network people had good coverage in rural areas well.
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Speaker 9: It was the way that the antennas were set up and worked. They were an omnidirectional antenna that the signal moved away from equally in all directions. With the four G and five GB and TENNA set up so different, they do provide better performance, but in areas where they're tuned to do that, and so therefore you do get these weak spots in the in the cells, you know, in the transmission areas.
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Speaker 1: Yeah and sorry here you go ahead.
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Speaker 9: Well, the key issue is that if without monitoring, which has now been called for by the National Farmers Federation a can you know, there's complaints about the Telecommunications Consumer Protection Code from the TII, the agriple see sort of everyone is unhappy with the situation with telecommunications right across the board. There is a concern and most of it is replicating what I've been saying for more than ten years. So therefore it's time that the government acts to to you know, to pull the telecommunications industry into you know, into alignment with what customers expect.
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Speaker 1: Darren's textas in saying I live on York Peninsula. I can sit within a kilometer from telecommunications towers and get no signal the Wi Fi has hit or miss. Telstra continually say there's no issue.
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Speaker 9: Well absolutely, that's exactly the type of problem that we have. As I have written as an example, you should be able to stand you know, either five hundred meters or a kilometer from a tower on a clear day, with no rain and no clouds in sight of the tower, and you should be able to get the same performance from every tower everywhere in the nation. But that's not the case. I mean, look, there are towns such as you know, Geralton and Western Australia and other places that I've been to where I've stood five hundred meters from the tower with a clear view and a clear day, no clouds, and I've received almost you know, no signal or no throughput. Even if there is signal, you know, the upload and download speeds are woeful. And there's many examples if this across the nation. And this comes back to the fact that there are no performance standards for telecommunications and the telcos can say one thing with impunity because the A Triple C and the TiO and the ACMA, they are not empowered by legislation to take action.
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Speaker 1: So really it's in the government's hands. They need to empower a triple C to be able to take action against Telstra and the like.
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Speaker 9: Tom most certainly look and I've been calling for funding for research to work out how the performance standards should be designed and implemented. But would you believe of all industries in Australia, the only industry where there is no funding available for research is telecommunications.
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Speaker 1: Go figure, Thanks for that. Mark. That's Mark Gregory, Associate Professor at r MIT, telecommunications expert on not only SUS problems, but Darren's problems and a lot of other people who live in regional areas. There's just not the service that they deserve and demand back shortly five Double.
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Speaker 2: A Mornings with gram Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Twenty seven to ten, five double A on this delightful Tuesday morning, A double two three double double is then I'm to ring a little bit later on this hour Victoria's announced free public transport for kids. Should we bring it in here? The Green's MLC Rob Simms is pushing for fifty cent fares for everyone. We'll talk about public transport in this city. Is it adequate you paid? Do you pay too much for it? Should you be paying anything for it? Like to know your thoughts A double two three double o double Oh William, good morning.
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Speaker 4: Good morning Graham. Look just on the phone coverage here in South Australia and if not Australia, I'm more familiar obviously South Australia.
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Speaker 10: I don't mean to.
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Speaker 4: Brag, but my partner's from Thailand and I spend probably you know, a good half of the year in Thailand, so it's like my second home.
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Speaker 11: Now.
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Speaker 4: When we're in Thailand, we probably do you know, the whole island, the whole you know, we travel around Thailand. Weren't just sit in one spot. Yeah, and you know, as a as a most as a modern country yard. Here in Australia, my phone drops out being a courier here in Australia more times than I can ever think of. But in Thailand, not once has my phone ever dropped out or the WiFi ever dropped out. And just referring back to here in a earlier I was thinking maybe my home was having more of an issue because you know, when I built the house, were you still framed? And I thought that might be interfering with all your Wi Fis and all that kind of signal. But it seems like, you know, for a modern country, we're so far behind the times in regards to phone towers and Wi Fi. It's just makes your mind boggle. Grame.
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Speaker 1: Really, yeah, it certainly does, it really does. And we wonder if we've dropped the ball on this. And I think it's fair to say that when we talk internet speeds and phone coverage, we are lagging behind many other countries. Well I mentioned earlier. Adelaide has ranked six among the twenty least affordable cities for housing. Four Australian cities have been labeled impossibly unaffordable in a twenty twenty five international housing Affordability report. Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide and Perth are all ranked among the twenty least affordable cities globally. And that's out of ninety five major housing markets, which include Australia, Canada, China Island, New Zealand, Singapore, the UK and the US. Joining me now is Bruce Jitte from the property council Bruce, good morning to you. These are quite alarming figures, sta't you think they're.
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Speaker 12: Absolutely shocking stats and it just shows how far we are away from delivering more affordable housing or housing that is in reach for everyday South Australian. It's quite an alarming statistic and it just, you know, reinforces how much more we still need to do to tackle this housing crisis.
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Speaker 1: It needs to be tackled at all levels, obviously at federal level, state level, local government level, council level. Do you think there needs to be some sort of you know, a round table conference, but everyone because we get some sort of federal government ideas may set targets. The state government is doing its best, but is there an overall concept, an overall plan to improve the housing situation.
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Speaker 12: Well, you've got to make get competitive and you know the federal government started doing that obviously with half funding and the way that's distributed. But you know there's more the state government could be doing to apply greater responsibility to councils to actually approve more developments and approve them more quickly, and the state government could be doing the same. They are pulling a lot of leaders and We are working really closely with the state government on this issue, but there are more leaders that could be pulled. You know, there's a legitimate question around you know, how furious is the government about delivering affordable housing because a number of policy decisions, whether it's double garages and the like, there's a number of policy decisions that automatically have made housing more expensive to deliver. So if affordability is the laser focus, that's not been reflected in some of the policies we've seen. And in terms of speed of delivery, well that's something that really could be accelerated because the land releases take a long time. They cost a lot of money to get infrastructure delivered there, and that is happening, but there is a huge infel opportunity that we are not yet seeing come to fruition.
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Speaker 1: I mean, we obviously need to get on top of construction costs. I mean they've surged by forty percent in the past five years.
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Speaker 12: Our construction costs are huge. But you know, I think it's important for South Australians to know that at least thirty percent of the cost of a dwelling is made up of government and local government, State and local government fees, taxes charges. You know, that's ten years of your thirty year mortgage gone back to paying for those taxes, fees, charges, whether it's land, whether it's council rates, etc. And that is contributing significantly. So when you take into account land costs, the cost of land, you're take into account the cost of construction. And yes, it's exploded over the last couple of years. It's about to get worse as the government embarks on the biggest infrastructure pipeline that the state's ever seen in Children's Hospital, North South Corridor and the like. So this is a challenge that really needs a laser focus. If we want to talk about affordability, if that's not going to happen, then I think the government needs to start talking about how they make housing more accessible because they are not tackling the affordability issue as well as they could.
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Speaker 1: Well if they tackle law and cut back some of their rights and charges. You're saying thirty percent of the cost of a house is tied up in government charges.
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Speaker 12: Yep, an entry level home, brand new home is tied up in taxes, fees charges. That's not money that's going to developers. That's just a pass through to consumers who are left hold in the camp.
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Speaker 1: You can understand the frustration. There are many young Australians, young people in Adelaide now who are giving up the thought of ever earning their own home.
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Speaker 12: Absolutely, and we just released a report a couple of months ago and unfortunately we had to title it beyond reach because housing is entry level housing. We're not talking about Richie suburbs, you know. We're talking about areas where you would consider it more affordable Salisbury, you know, Christie's Beach, Monopara, some of these areas where you would think first home buyers would be targeting. It is now unaffordable, completely beyond reach for a whole range of demographics. You could be a public servant, you could be a nurse, you could be you know, a trade and electrician, we model teachers. There's a whole range. Because wages are not keeping up with the explosion in house prices and something needs to change else we're going to end up in a society where to own a home is something that's either inherited or through some form of great wealth transfer, and that will have a lot of negative societal and economic impacts for the whole state.
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Speaker 1: I mean it is a tragedy, Bruce, because not that long ago that was called the great Australian dream to own your own home, and it was realizable, it could be done.
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Speaker 12: But not anymore that dream is quickly becoming a nightmare.
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Speaker 1: Graham Bruce on that SATURDAYE Unfortunately, we'll leave it. Thank you for your time, Bruce. You'd a Property Council SA executive director on the grim news about owning your own home. It is so far and away, and particularly it's not a world problem, and it would appear seems that Australia. Quoting the figures that I mentioned, twenty twenty five International Housing Affordability Report, Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide in Perth all ranked among the twenty least affordable cities globally Australian cities crazy a little old city like Adelaide. We are ranked sixth among the least affordable cities in housing. If that doesn't set alarm bells off, nothing would. Adam, good morning, good morning.
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Speaker 13: Oh where you go?
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Speaker 1: Good thanks.
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Speaker 14: I'm just troubled by the waste of money. Those government seems to be able to throw moneyways super things. I was just driven down sappily still road yesterday along the airport there, and there's a biplane, Yes, perfectly, there's a great biplane actually riding a bikelane. They're chewing it up, replacing it. There's roads that need replacing it. They're doing a biplane.
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Speaker 1: So there's an existing bikelane there, I'm aware of it. But they're redoing it resurface.
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Speaker 14: Are they digging it right out? They've got a venture out there, a profile right there, digging it all out and then redoing it again. So what the hell of them.
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Speaker 11: With these guys?
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Speaker 14: You know, they've got plenty of money for stupid things like that, you know.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well you make a good point. Unless there was something radically wrong with the bike lane, they could have patched it up like they patch up our roads sometimes. Good on you, Adam, Yeah, thanks for that. If anyone's aware out near the airport of what is happening with the bike lane replacement, do you know what's going on there? Why is it being dug up and replaced? Because the last time I've went along there, of course I haven't ridden along there as a cyclist, but it seemed pretty good. It was a pretty good stretch of bitumen all the way along there and they're digging it up and replacing it. Obviously got plenty of money. Gg. My daughter is twenty kilometers from Robertstown and paid fifteen hundred dollars for a hon antenna and gets two hundred meters coverage from the farmhouse. Thank you for that. John. This is a absolutely ludicrous situation. When the three G network was in we didn't hear too many complaints. I'm sure there were isolated areas, but the three G network seem to operate pretty well. When they shut down the three G network, a lot of people. Thousands of people have been left without mobile service. Hijig finding Telster is not going to fix the comms problem. Good on you, Gary, Thank you for that. Graham. All the people who voted labor to fix the housing crisis and Labor won't admit immigration is the problem. Well, I think anyone would have to concede that immigration has exacerbated a problem. There was a problem anyway. We have a problem getting enough construction workers, builders and the like. But when you bring in one million, five hundred thousand people into the country in a period of five years, we're going to have problems because all those people need to live somewhere. The people that say, look, well we need to bring in immigrants to there's lots of job vacancies. We can't fill all the job vacancies. That's all set that aside. But these people have to live somewhere, and when they come here, they're competing for houses with other people, young people, older people who need rental accommodation to buy houses. And off, all of a sudden there's an injection of one and a half million people, and the houses are being built in the country at the rate of about one hundred and seventy thousand a year. You don't have to be a mathematics expert to realize we're in a lot of trouble. Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings. It's thirteen two ten on five double A on this delightful Tuesday morning. Hope we find you well, Phil says morning Graham. I wonder if you could get a marine biologist to explain the effect of the algill bloom on sea grasses. Yet we will certainly track that down. We know with what an impact it's having on marine life, but as far as sea grasses, we don't quite know. Andrew says yep, they're digging out completely the tar bike lane down along Tapleys Hill Road down to about a foot. The stretch runs about three kilometers and you look at what's remaining and it looks still in good Nick. Yeah, we wonder why are they replacing it? Is there a logical reason that would run three kilometers of bike lane that would run into a pretty doll? I would think high ground. Do you know or have any statistics on who is buying all our houses here in Adelaide and Australia in general. I'm seeing houses in Hallett Cove and Hallet Cove Beach in the nine hundred k to two and a half million sold very quickly, so who's buying them? Regards Mark? We will do some investigating. I don't know if yeah, if those statistics are readily available. It's not only young people struggling to buy a home. There's also the older bracket. Some older people have had things go pear shape in their lives and they're also struggling to get into the housing market. Yeah. Well, there's no question that the housing market is tragically beyond most people this stage. Unless you've you know, you've got parents or somebody who's prepared to chip in and give you a sizeable deposit. But for an average family, and this is an average family, not a lower income family, people earning pretty decent money, you just to find the deposit is nigh on impossible. Well, the Victoria State government is offering free public transport for more than one million Victorian children. It's part of key costs living measures in their state. The Premier Jacenta Hearn says, families are doing it tough. I'm on their side. SA families are doing it tough too. Should Transport Minister Tom cooson turnus consider it doing the same thing. Well, Robert Simms has his thoughts on public transport in the state. He joins me. Now, Robert, good morning to you.
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Speaker 15: Good morning Graham.
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Speaker 1: Now you're not proposing free public transport, but for fifty cent across the board.
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Speaker 15: Well, well, the Greens do support free public transport and I have advocated for that for many years. But what we're suggesting is for this state budget that the government roll out a trial of fifty cent fares just to see what the takeup is. That would be a significant saving for South Australian households that are going through cost of living struggles at the moment, in Fate, your average family of four would save about seventeen hundred dollars over a six month period. And then, of course if the trial is successful, it'd be great to see the government make it permanent. The experience over in Queensland demonstrates that when you make a transport heavily discounted in this way, you're going to see a significant uptake. And that's why over in Queensland both political parties, Labor and the Liberals have actually said, yeah, let's make this an ongoing initiative.
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Speaker 1: And there's no question that one of the problems with the CBD is at the moment is people are not going into the CBD for a whole range of reasons. Since COVID, we've had trouble attracting people back. So either free or subsidized public transport would probably attract more people into the business district.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, look, I think that's absolutely the case. We know that this is a potential economic benefit as well. You know, less money that people are paying on transport costs means more money that they can spend when they go out. And you know, we know that car parking in the CBD, for instance, is very expensive. It'd be better if people were able to spend that money at a local restaurant or at some city shops. And let's not forget to the environmental benefit that flows from all of this too, And it means a reduction in carbon emissions. And we have a commitment here in South Australia to try and deal with climate change, and yet we're not really doing anything about carbon emissions and that's a significant problem in terms of tackling the climate crisis. So this is one way that we can incentivize people, incentivize people to leave the cur at home. I can also just say Graham on this idea about free public transport for children, it definitely makes sense. We think it should be free for everybody. But I was chair of a parliamentary inquiry a few years ago now, and one of the key recommendations of that inquiry, looking at public and active transport in our state, was the need for us to simplify the concession system because here in their say, it's actually really confusing for parents. So you know, for child's under the age of five, they get free public transport, but then if they're between the ages of five and seventeen, they can get a student concession. Some of those students have to carry a card, some age groups don't. It's a very confusing system and so really there's a lot of room for the government to move, I think in terms of simplifying it and bringing us into line with what other states are doing.
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Speaker 1: Robert Simms good to chat Green's MLC. Robert Simms on public transport. Should it be free? Should it be subsidized to the extent that people pay fifty cents? Should it be free for kids? Those under eighteen? Well, I believe the Adelaide City Council is very keen for at least a trial to see a reduced flat fare on all public transport, similar to what Queensland have done. And there's been a response from Tom Kuittson Turnis Transport Minister, who says the state government already subsidizes more than ninety percent of the cost of public transport in South Astralia. Every cent raise through fares goes back into improving amenity, security and frequency on our network and that is immediate policy. So I think we can take it from that. There will be no free public transport for those under eighteen and southa State. There will be no fifty cent fares across the board, status quo from the state government morning gg. Bruce Gei was advocating to get Adelaide's population to over two and a half million this time last year, which is only going to increase demand on housing, therefore increasing prices. Also, you just can't build cheap houses to answer the problem. Can't have it both ways. Thank you for that, Lou. Yeah. Look, I remember having a discussion, a little heated discussion with Bruce Ete at this time when he was advocating such an increase in our population, and we were at cross swords. He thought it was going to boost the economy and be advantageous for so many reasons. But the bottom line is increase population. People have to live somewhere, and if there are not enough houses for people already here, what are you going to do? When he says, China is laughing at our slow phone, internet and housing problems, just ask any international student, Jason says, my phone and internet drops out regular I'm only five hundred meters from a phone tower. I was also thinking it was the steel beams in my house, but maybe it's just a terrible service instead Oka. I know my daughter lives in Tranmere and there are certain parts of the house that you try and make a phone call and it doesn't work. There's no internet connection. This is in the city, This is in fifteen minutes of the heart of the city. Just ludicrous situation. How did that happen in Australia. I know part of the argument is that the tyranny of distance too. Oh, it's such a vast country to get coverage overall, but we're talking in city areas, isolate areas in the hills York Peninsula. You know, that's hardly a million miles away a line of sight with Adelaide in fact, and people on York Peninsula have trouble getting coverage. It is just a crazy situation that has happened here, and you know it makes us a third world country in that respect. Tom Good morning, Laurie Graham.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, chattering up about spending half a year living in Thailand. My younger brother does the same thing. He was there all through COVID. He's back in Australia now. I just got off the phone with him. Now. The situation is in the gym is absolutely correct. My brother has troubles from from time to time in Australia, he said, he never has a problem in Thailand. The difference is at least in the area where he's living in the sinew every second place has a tower, a huge tower. But they're not privately owned. They're all been All them towers are actually nine percent are actually put up by the tele communications companies and they pay the owner of the property rent for the site. And it's a bit like when you look at you look at those shows and you see all the wirring in a lot of these Asian countries and the power poles, and that's a bloody nightmare.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're all plugged in yet a million exactly the outlet deal.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, and my brother, that's exactly what the towers look like in Thailand, he said. But the service is bloody fantastic. But yeah, just out because I lived in York Fininsula just outside of Edbury for a number of years and the optic service would work there, but not the tels of service I don't know about now. And that's only three k's from Edithburgh Fort Pirie. I've got friends just outside the see literally three k's if you draw a line from there start. They has about three k's they're going to go outside to get this service outside of the actual building. I mean, this has been going on for so so long. I mean it was going on when they had that when they dragged that Canadian bloke out here when it used to be called I think it's called telecom at the time, and he was supposed to fix all the problems, end up going back with a big, big payout. This has been a sorry, a public relations BS story for well over twenty years about the coverage.
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Speaker 1: You know, there's no question about that, Tom, and thanks for your call. And we were talking to Associate Professor Mark Gregory, who's a telecommunications expert, and he's part of the problem is that, he says, the major telcos not really responsible, answerable to anyone. You know, a Triple C can wave a finger at them and so forth. But in terms of getting a better coverage, it's not going to happen at this stage. Gay, you're the eyes and ears of five double A listeners. What can you tell us?
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Speaker 16: Oh, Hi there, I've just come from home. I live near Mark College on Douglas Drive at Sonaparah. There's a huge accident on Douglas Drive. Traffic is not able to get through either side of the road. All the emergency services are there, but a lot of people who might be going down to Marth College or the Adelaide Nor Special School, they'll have to go right down Curtis Road to Peach You Road and along that back way because the Doublas Drive is blocked.
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Speaker 1: Oh look, so go through that for us again. Gay, where exactly was.
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Speaker 16: The act at Snapara in the place of the live area. It's blocked in both directions. There is an accident there. I don't know what's happened up to get ghost enough, but all the emergency services are on hand, and if anyone's going to Mark Qualifant College or the Adelaide North Special School, they will need to go down Curtis Road to Peach You Roads and come in that way because they can't get down Doubles Strive.
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Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to have to put you on the payroll. Thank you for that very comprehensive report. We really appreciate.
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Speaker 3: Thanks Graam, Happy good day.
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Speaker 1: Thank you. That's okay with a traffic report, so be wary of that, and no doubt there'll be more information on that than the news. Hopefully it is not too serious A double two to three, double O double We're going to take a break for news. Then after the news, John Paul Drake has been rather vociferous in his condemnation of racist trolls. We'll have a chat with John Paul after the news. Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings at seven past ten, five Double A on this to mindful Tuesday Morning. Social media. You love it? Oh? Do you hate it? It can be the most frustrating cesspool of dire tribe that ever comes out, although it does have its benefits. But I'll tell you what, when it's bad, it's really ugly. And the South of Stralian supermarket boss John Paul Drake has certainly experienced that, and he sprang to the defense of his staff who have been the subject to some horrific racist comments. He joins me, now, John Paul, good morning to you, John Paul. Are you there? John Paul is speechless. Yes, that's all right.
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Speaker 10: Worry about that, guys, I'm just trying to suspense introduction. Definitely, definitely.
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Speaker 1: I tell you what, it worked. It scared the hell out of Meryeah.
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Speaker 10: Well, as you've mentioned, we've had an interesting example of you know, we have suppliers and we use our team members in social photos that they will happily want to be in. And when I'm doing these posts, like normally everything is fine, but over the weekend we've had a bit of a tiro to Gates, a particular team member of ours, and race was definitely the hot topic that was pulled apart here. Extremely racist remarks and it's not just the words, just the memes as well that come with that. And I just want, you know, my team members to understand, like, it's not on to be able to do that, say, it's not on for anyone to be able to speak like that. And you know, I keep going back to these keyboard warriors, quite simple to sit behind a computer an anonymous person.
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Speaker 1: They'd never say it to your face. They would have the guts to say it to your face.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, and I know, and this is this is unfortunately one of the things we see in society today. And you know, for us, you know, I rang the team members straight away and I said, look, I'm happy to take that post down, are you okay? And he was actually very good about the whole thing. Yeah, you know, understood that this does happen, but I said I was going to make sure that I wanted to write something because it did infuriate me to think that people think it's okay to say these things, send memes like this, and you know, he really come back to me. Look at what football players go through and what other sporting athletes go through. You know, this is a team member working on the shop floor in one of my supermarkets, and this is the sort of behavior that we're seeing online. And I will be I'll be quite frank with you, We very rarely see any incidence in store. They all funny enough on their time, but no one in our team deserves to be subject to that kind of behavior. In fact, no one does.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, the thing is I think with you know, it is totally unacceptable. But what I think is admirable, John Paul, is the fact that I think you and your dad see as a big family. There might be thousands of members of the family, but if one has heard or challenge or whatever, you immediately spring to their defense.
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Speaker 10: Yeah. Absolutely, And yeah, we do employ around four and a half thousand people here in South Australia, and I'll be honest. Dad used to know all their names. He's having a flight problem these days, knowing everyone everyone's name. But you know, we you know, our team members, there are most valuable assets that we have, and if we are not going to stick up for them, who is. And you know, I think I believe in in making sure that we do everything we can to be calling out behavior like this no different than the customer maddicians that we have. Now, you know, people come into the store. I can't say there's Beeves funny enough. They come into the store and they walk out without paying for products. And the reason this all comes about is that my team members get sick and tired of the same people walking in, grabbing what they want and walking out. Why the rest of us are out there working to earn our money, to pay for our goods and to be what I would say, a moral citizen. So I find it very hard that in this day and age, in this country of eyes, which is a definitely multicultural country, of having to call out extremely shameful behavior. I mean, there's no excuse for racism in any form, even less directed at a team member that was holding a product with caption on it.
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Speaker 1: So now it's just unthinkable. I mean, as you say it's a multicultural country. All of us have friends or acquaintances have come from overseas or different nationalities and that, and we're all pretty well blend in there. Isolated incidents, of course, But to just sort of launch these uncalled for, unprovoked attacks on people, it just shows that there are people out there the lowest common denomina is in society.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, and I get this quite a lot with the comments that I make. I make some stance and some of those are aligned with Drake, and sometimes I get in a bit of trouble with my own team at Drake's. But I believe in this sort of behavior, everyone should feel comfortable about calling it out, and no one should feel uncomfortable about calling it out when they see it. And I find too many people, too many business leaders are too scared to talk about the truth, and they don't want to upset the apple cart because they don't want to be perceived as a certain kind of person by calling out this sort of behavior. And I think every business leader should be calling out this sort of behavior. And Dad will kill me for this because their customer is always right. The old rule are rule number one. The customers a rule number two. I refer to rule number one. Well, you know we proved this during COVID that the customer may always come first. But when you're abusing any of our team members or anyone on my team, I believe you use the right to be a customer at one of our stores. So you know, I cannot defend my team anymore than we do. We make sure that we prosecute any physical behavior or anything in our own stores which came about through COVID. And you know, my people, they're my biggest essay, and I've got no qualm standing up for them for us.
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Speaker 1: Right, Well, you've got the support of ninety nine point nine percent of people. I think there's only one point one of a percent of morons that have nothing better to do with their lives than to troll on social media and get some sort of kick out of being offensive. So more power to you, John.
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Speaker 10: Paul, keep it up, Thanks Graham, have a great morning, you too.
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Speaker 1: John Paul Drake from Drake's Supermarket standing up for apparently it was a little bit of advertising there with the team members there holding up some products or whatever, and because they are obviously of ethnic origin or something like that, somebody took offense and made some absolutely racist comments, totally uncalled for. John Paul Drake sprung to their defense and good on him too, Hi Graham, I love Drakes and the friendly staff from Louis. Good on you, Louis, thank you very much for that. It's quarter past ten, five Double A. Still lots to come. The rate decision will be made today by the Reserve Bank. Crossing our fingers, they say it's a ninety nine percent chance there will be a rate cut, but until that comes out we won't know. That will be sometime this afternoon that Stacy Lee will be across that as the afternoon progresses. And still to come this hour. The super tax that the government is telling us about saying it won't impact all that many people, well, the cauntains say it will impact a lot more Australians and as being acknowledged. Five Double A Mornings with Graham. Goodings, good morning to you. Great to have your company on this Tuesday, May the twentieth. Well, we mentioned yesterday about the big spat between two major telcos. Votaphone says Telstra has been misleading customers over the extent of its mobile network coverage, which it says has resulted in an unfair market advantage. Let's find out more about it. From a consumer executive at Vodaphone, Kieran Cooney, Kieren, good morning.
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Speaker 5: To you, Good morning gram Thanks for having me on.
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Speaker 1: No, it's a pleasure. We want to get to the bottom of this because we've been talking all morning about people having issues with Telstra in remote areas not getting the coverage that they recall. So what is the votaphone beef with Telster?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, just one thing is why are you describing it as like the stoush between us? It really isn't like. This isn't about Votaphone versus Telstra.
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Speaker 17: This is about Telstra.
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Speaker 11: Versus the truth and what they've actually.
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Speaker 5: Been saying to Australias. It's not a comparison with US, comparison to their own statements and have been caught out because for more than fifteen years Telsha's mislead by overstating the size of the mobile network by around one million square kilometer, So that's not arounding it. It's a huge amount. It's roughly the size of miss up Wales Victorian Act combined. And what they failed to mention until we caught up with them, and we caught them with the pants down. Is that this coverage is only accessible when you have quite expensive external intendas that almost nobody uses. That was never mentioned and it's not how Australians use their mobile phone. So it's not how and it's not how Telstra has advertised its own network. So even now after they've been exposed, is still refusing to disclose actually what their actual coverage is that Australians get when they're just using a regular mobile phone. And what we've been saying, we been staggered with their response is we just want them to come clean and howns for a simple question, which is how big is your mobile coverage when you're using a standard mobile phone.
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Speaker 1: Do you think they're been getting an unfair market advantage because of this?
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Speaker 5: I think definitely they've distorted the market. Is that by their own admission and by their own statements. Whenever people ask, oh, why is Telster more expensive? To Telster executives, what they say again and again is that it's their mobiles, their network, the coverage. What's becoming clear is the central part of the promise and the reason why they've been demanding these high prices. Well now it's under question.
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Speaker 1: Well by comparison, how does votefhone measure its coverage?
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Speaker 5: The really industry standard way, which is what a normal Australian with just a mobile phone is they're out and about using it as user, I would where they can expect.
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Speaker 11: To get coverage.
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Speaker 5: That's the reasonable way, right Like I if I ask you, what do you think mobile coverage could mean? I presume most people would say I don't know it's where and get coverage for using my mobile? Well they're said there's no, no, no. And this is the important point ran is they didn't even mention this for fifteen years. The way they calculated it was, oh, to get this coverage, you would have had to also get an antenna, which can often be the size of a broomstick, that has to get plugged into its own repeater or like an amplifier that has to plug into power. All of that then gets bolted into a car or a house. So all of those additional things, which by the way, almost nobody uses. So to suggest that's the basis on which you're promising all Australians on the coverage is so misleading. It's probably the level of a misleading we've never seen before in our industry.
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Speaker 1: So how they got away with it for so long, well.
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Speaker 5: I don't know, will be uncovered because we looked at their information, We looked at its maps that they're taken to the Ahripal, see the data that they and their claims that they make in their advertising. We use our own tools that we use for ourselves, and these numbers don't match up. And it's not that they match up, just you know that they don't match up just a little bit. They are out by a million square kilometers and this is really important, especially in a state like Australia whereby this is a big state and Australia is a tough place to put mobile coverage on for any operator. So what Australians deserve, and frankly, what they're demanding is I just want to know if I'm buying the service, where's the coverage that I can get it? How much coverage can I can get? And they've fallen short on that fundamental promise that they need to deliver to Australia.
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Speaker 1: We've been getting a lot of feedback from people saying, look, when we had three G it was it was fine. We had, we'd coverage. We don't have three G anymore, and we don't have coverage. Was that a step back for people in rural areas?
00:54:18
Speaker 5: You have to you'd have to talk to them specifically about that change. But what I'd be saying is is that is that is an even bigger issue because that might have been a small reduction in particular areas, or it might not have been. That'll be really you know, probably one that I wouldn't have information for, So I'm not trying to avoid the question the information. The bigger point is that there's a much bigger promim Like if I've been promised, it's the equivalent of if I sold your ticket to go to London, but then the plane stopped and Dubai and I was like, hang on, I want to get to London there, you need to buy another ticket for that. Like it is outrageous in terms of the misleading conduct that they've seen. And what we've been saying is if we don't as I have it, we don't come out, you know, ask these kind of questions of competitors. But the reality is this is such a huge misbelieving behavior that it's not about us versus end. This is the really important thing. It's about Telstra versus the truth. We need them to come out and state very clearly what is our outdoor coverage but Australian could expect to get number two? Why have I not been making that clear for fifteen years? And I know they've been distorting the market. We've been saying it to customers, to investors, to the entire market that this is the basis of our superiority, and it turns out it is vastly smaller than what they're expecting. For smaller we're saying, come clean straight up and tell us why you haven't been cleaned for fifteen years.
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Speaker 1: So votaphones exposed the issue. What would you expect to happen from here?
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Speaker 5: We raised it with the AH Triple C as well. So first of all, we raised it with Telstra and we said, oh, this is weird. We don't understand this. Can can you explain it? We wrote a couple of letters and with the responses we got fell short of what anyone would expect. So then we want to the huble C and now we're speaking to yourself and to the HBC. We're hoping and as I think a lot of other industry players, and what dogs are calling for is this looks like huge, a huge misleading action and they want to we're hoping that it'll be investigated at number one. Number two. What we're hoping is they'll make it right with customers, which is they just need to come clean. They need to come out and say what is the coverage and why are we then saying a difference in the numbers and a different city conditioners for fifteen years. And then third of all, we'd be calling on any of their customers to go if you've made a decision, whether you're a consumer or a corporate and part of that decisions that based on disclosures have turned out to not be true, and we can tell Stress to let those customers we don't be free of their contract.
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Speaker 1: Kieran Kearney, thanks for your time today. Consumer executive at the Vodaphone on the exposure of Telstra's mobile coverage. And we've had plenty of times today reports people saying that the coverage that they've been promised is not available from the text line. Steam says support John Paul one percent for standing up for bad behavior although or standing up against bad behavior, although we are multicultural. We cannot treat different ethnic groups differently. Everyone should be treated equally. Thanks for that, Steve Ian, Good morning, good morning.
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Speaker 6: Let's say a couple of colors. I'm a truckie. I go a regional every day. I'm just topping the truck. Now I go. I can go all the way to broken here or get your Janta on another network out of the Telstra and not be a service for three uncoceptable. So that's why I change to Telstra.
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Speaker 1: And that works for you.
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Speaker 6: Well, it works because if I break down and then I'm with one of the other telcodes, I'm beside the right waving down people that are on Telstra to get help. That's the same simple.
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Speaker 1: Yep, no, no, I take your point. Thanks for that, Ian. We'll leave it there because the line is a bit noisy. Look that. I don't think there's any question that Telster provides the greatest coverage, but I think the bone of contention is they're claiming much greater coverage than they actually have. So sourses for courses. If Tolster works for you, it's all well and good. Eight double two THREEUBO is the numbered ring coming up after news headlines that super tax that the Treasurer says is only are going to impact a very small group of people with about three million dollars or more in their super account. Well, the CPA Australia says it's going to affect a lot more people than has been realized, and into the future it will affect growing numbers. Graham read the housing shortages and costs. There's no financial incentive to downsize for older Australians now and no solution in sight. My thoughts are that while people are financially maxed out just to pay their mortgage now, there's no money left in their budget for modernizing or important repairs. So we will see houses in the future being very expensive still, but a need of substantial repairs may be not even inhabitable. With the shortage of trades, this will be a future problem limiting housing availability. Thank you for that Mark. The Lean says, unlike the rest of the world, our governments would rather spend millions on bureaucrats wages than on improving our telecommunications, roads or anything else that improves life. Back off the news headlines five Double A.
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Speaker 2: Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Good morning, Welcome to Tuesday, May twentieth. Hope we find you well. Hope you're having a good day. If you got any issue that takes your fancy, something that's happening in your neck of the woods, let's know about it. You know, the eyes and ears of our audience. Eight double two to three, double oh, double oh. The number to ring, or you can text on zero double four eight and zero eight thirteen ninety five. But I prefer a call. I like to chat, WE like to interact well. Many financial commontators say Labour's controversial plan to impose hefty taxes on unrealized capital gains as a well tax. The Albanesi government's plan to slap a thirty percent tax rate on Superfi above three million dollars is looming, with Labor and the Greens expected to join forces in the Senate to pass the legislation. Now Treasurer Jim Chalmers says this will impact a very small number of Australians, but some experts and the contains say this is not the case. They say the super tax will impact a greater number of Australians than as being acknowledged. Joining me now is Elena Cassapedes, CPA Australia Chief of Policy Eleenor Good morning to you.
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Speaker 8: Good morning.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is concerning to a lot of people. There are a lot of people say, look, three million dollars super, that's way more than I've got or I'm likely to have, So it's not going to impact me. Do you see it somewhat differently?
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Speaker 5: We do.
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Speaker 18: We're thinking about not just about today the eighty thousand people that are estimated to be impacted once the law passes, but over the future generations because when you look at the law, there's no indexing, so as inflation, as that value increases go forward, more and more people are going to trip up over these thresholds. And if you think about a dollar todayet was about thirty cents forty years ago. Over the course of someone's working life, they're going to start to head towards this, even if they're just on the average wage.
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Speaker 1: And when you look at it, people also say, well, they probably won't impact me because I'm not a high wagerner. I'm learning sort of average or below wages, so I'm never going to get part to that threshold. You're saying that's not the case.
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Speaker 18: Well, we want Australians to be aspirational and very many people to full time employment throughout the course of their lives. And of course the peranuation is intended to help every day Australians, say, for their retirement. So the purpose of the system is to actually encourage people to put money aside and have a comfortable retirement. And what we're saying is, at some point in time, having three million dollars is going to be the same as having a much smaller amount today, let's say six or seven hundred thousand dollars. And we're concerned that there are no safeguards built in to prevent more and more people getting taxed to higher higher rates.
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Speaker 1: What do you make of the taxing unrealized profits.
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Speaker 18: We're fundamentally opposed to it. So these unrealized capital gains are not taxed anywhere else in the system. And the reason for that is you don't actually have the money in your pocket because you haven't actually sold the asset. So you think about people who have put the family farm in their superannuation fund or a commercial property which is going to support them in their retirement. They can't sell a piece of that to pay and increase in the value. So the government's really asking for its tax ahead of time when people don't actually have the money to pay for it.
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Speaker 1: A lot of people who are in a position to do it will make voluntary repayments additions to they are super payments. Can you see them deciding not to do that in the future, Well, that is our concern.
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Speaker 18: So, like I said, we want everyday Australians who are working hard to make good choices and not spend all of their money today, but think about tomorrow. The less attractive you make that, the more costly you make it, then people are not necessarily going to be incentive. So absolutely it's going to change people's choices. And again we're not talking about the small number of rich baby boomers today perhaps or even the hard working ones that made these choices at the time, but we're thinking about the future and how people are going to make choices, and we don't want to see people reliant on the pension. That's the whole point of stick preanuation.
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Speaker 1: I think the den age of the wage is what you said that the Treasure has said that it's only going to impact eighty thousand people, but from what you've said, that number is going to grow dramatically over the coming.
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Speaker 18: Years, Yeah, very quickly, and if it relies on the greens they've proposed a two million dollar threshold, which brings in another fifty thousand people or sorry funds today. So you think with inflation going the way that it is, as their price increases going the way they are, And that's not to mention property and other kinds of assets are being increasingly taxed by state governments and others. So the burden on the taxpayer is increasing as the government continues to try and find ways to tax things and to us unrealized capital gain when you don't even have the money in the bank. That's really a threshold that we don't want to see breached.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I could put real pressure on people, couldn't it. I mean, all of a sudden, you get this bill from the tax office for ten thousand dollars and you don't have the assets to pay it.
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Speaker 8: That's right, And.
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Speaker 18: Who's to say that that valuation is correct. So from an accounting point of view and a tax advice point of view, a lot of assets are a liquid so you can't sell them that easily or it's very hard to value. And then you have highly volatile investments. Let's say crypto, where the value can change from day to day and you might get caught out on the thirtieth of June. So there's a lot of uncertainty, and it's based on things that have not actually been realized, and the money.
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Speaker 8: Is not fair.
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Speaker 1: Do you think when it comes to super when the government's concerned it should be just hands off and leave it as it is.
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Speaker 8: It's not so much hands off.
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Speaker 18: We do accept that at that upper end, and the lower end is well. You need to continuously review the rates and the points at which you're taxing things. So from our view, it's always good to see where the tax is being drawn and who's carrying the burden. But having no indexation and taxing un realized capital gains, is it a step too far for us?
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Speaker 1: It looks like this is a fat of complete though, doesn't it. It looks like it will pass the Upper House and then it will be inforced and we'll all have deliver it.
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Speaker 18: It's a challenge because at the end of the day, the government represents the people and they need to be responsible for good policy design. So what we are calling on them to do is to just reflect and think about is there a way to generate those couple of billion dollars of revenue to set the tax rates the right way, rather than breaking these fundamental principles of tax law in Australia.
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Speaker 1: Ellen, I thanks so much for insight today. I appreciate it.
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Speaker 18: Thank you Ellen.
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Speaker 1: The Cassipedes CPA Australia Chief of Policy. The super tax, they're saying we'll impact more Australians. The Treasurer is say, oh, buy eighty thousand, you know, just a drop in the bucket. It'll raise two billion dollars in its first year. That will grow I think to nine billion dollars after that, and way more beyond that. But three million dollars I think most of us would say, look, gee, if you've got three million dollars in your super account, you're set for life. But just to look a little bit down the track, that three billion dollars won't buy three million dollars worth today. I think Glenn said that going back forty years thirty that would be an increase of it would relate to every dollar You've only got thirty four cents. So three million dollars is not going to go far. Hi gig are blodd bureaucracy, the Commonwealth Public service has grown by forty eight percent in the last decade to three hundred and sixty five four hundred. There are also thirty five thousand staff in the so called green sector of our three levels of government. This is a wage and excess of twenty five billion dollars. What do we get for this? Not much. Bear in mind there is only twenty nine thousand personnel in outstanding army. And that is the truth, isn't it. Someone says it's a bit rich for Vodafone to be calling out their opposition when it's they who have the worst coverage in the country. Look, I take your point that Vertefhone's coverage isn't as good as Telstra's. That is irrefutable. But Vertefon's beef is the fact that Telsra are effectively lying when they're coverage, saying the millions of square kilometers that there their service covers is not true. To get coverage in some areas you need to put up an aerial antenna and lots of infrastructure. It could cost you one thousand dollars up to two thousand dollars. So we want truth and advertising, don't we? So maybe Tulsra. In fact, Telstra does give you bigger coverage, but they don't give you the coverage that they claim that they do. Bradley says, regarding the super tax, the eighty thousand people affected when it was announced two years ago would have been based on twenty twenty twenty one data. Since then, property prices and share prices have surge, so there will be a lot more effective when it starts, probably two to three times that number. Well, won't hear from the government, will we They will not be telling us the exact figure, There's no question about that. But with inflation going the way it does, and prices going the way they do, and real estate going the way it does, all of a sudden, they're going to need so many people who are asset rich, asset multi millionaires. But when it comes to converting that into cash, they'll have to sell their property. Crazy, crazy, crazy. From what I have read in the last two days, judges and politicians will be exempt from the super tax. This is just unbelievable. Why should they be exempt and make themselves wealthy and we keep struggling just to get by. There's a difference in the super that they pay. They have a different structure they pay tax. I don't know the exact detail, but there is a reason that they do not come under this super tax. I don't agree with it, but there is an exemption a double two to three double oh double. The number to ring two billion dollars divided by eighty thousand people equals twenty five thousand dollars payable in tax from each of those. I'm still absolutely dumbfounded. People can be taxed on unrealized gains, and that is the elephant in the room. Isn't it being taxed on unrealized gains? So they're sort of saying, it's like when the share market goes up. You've bought a share for a dollar and that share goes up to two dollars, Well, you've made one hundred percent profit. Well no, unless you sell it, then you've made the profit. But if you don't sell it, it's an unrealized gain. And this will be the case with superannuation. You're super which will be tied up in shares and the like could go up quite a lot, and all of a sudden you've got ten thousand dollars more and unrealized gains. And at the end of the year the tax deparmentles say, ah, okay, you've made a profit of ten thousand dollars, here's your tax bill. So what happens in future years when there's a loss and it goes backwards, Well, you don't get that money back. What they then say to you is well that will offset future profits, so you will not get that money back in hand. You know, it's some beautiful way it works. Kale says, this is labor taxing hard working Australians to pay for all their handouts and pay student debts. Also, hows it so that politicians are exempt from this tax? The opposition need to hold labor to account for this? Well, the opposition are pretty well not existent. I'm afraid Susan Lee's got to get them into shape as quickly as possible. I always say that a government is only as good as the opposition allows it to be, and with a poor opposition we don't necessarily get good government. So let's hope the opposition gets together as soon as possible and puts up at least a good case as to why these things should not happen. What are your thoughts? Eight double two three double will take a break back shortly five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings eight past eleven, five double A on this Tuesday morning. Delightful day that it is after a pretty chilly start, but it's pretty good now. Not mining it at all. From the text line, it's unbelievable Albo gets voted back in and what does he do to thank everyone? Bring in a ridiculously unfair tax. So we work hard all of our lives and if we're lucky, we can turn the heater on now and then. Well, to be fair, this super tax was in the works well before the election. In fact, has already passed the lower House. It only has to pass the upper House. So the Labor Party no doubt has done a deal with the Greens and it will be passed. Graham, we need to protest against this crazy and stupid Albanesi tax. H GG. This new tax is very concerning. What can we do to prevent it happening? Is there anything we have worked so hard to be self funded retirees as not to be a burden on the government. It is a slap in the face when the government sees us as cash cars. Jan Well said, that is so truly said, And I think the original concept when Paul Keating had the idea of superannuation that paid superannuas, was that it would take the burden off the government. It would ease the burden that the government faced paying more and more people going on to the pension and the like. But this way they're taking it both ways, aren't they. If you're self funded, if you've been paying into your superfund all those years, it gets beyond three million dollars and they're going to say, h we'll have a little bit of that. I don't think there's much you can do because it seems to be a fad of complea. It will go before the Upper House and the next I don't think Parliament is sitting in for another month or so. But when it does, it will pass, I would think, and then you will be paying. I'll be paying. Well, I won't be paying, but you might be paying if you've got three million dollars or more. A double two three double double oh is the number to ring Australia's native bees are under threat. High densities of European honey bees could be harming Australia native bees, altering key traits linked to survival. I love bees and anytime they're under threat, I'm very concerned and joining me in how is catch your Oxitan from the School of Agriculture, Food and Wine at the University of Adelaide catch you A good morning to you, thanks for your time today.
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Speaker 11: Good morning, Graham.
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Speaker 1: Do we have anything to worry about? Our native bees under threat?
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Speaker 8: Yes, our native bees around the threat. The biggest threat is climate change. What happens in a drought like we have at the moment in Adelaide is that the bees cannot find any food. And if the solitary bees cannot find any food, they cannot reproduce. And that's an issue because they won't live until the next year. So what we will see is a big dip in the bee numbers in next year, and if the weather is good, they will recover again. But if it stays like this dry then or is again this dry next summer, then we will see further dips. And it's it's a real concern. Honey bees, the feral honeybees. That the honeybees are an introduced species. They're out there nesting in our eucalypt They provide strong competition for our native bees. Unfortunately, and the beekeepers that have bees, they have to all feed their bees because their bees can't find anything either. Those bees are important for pollination obviously.
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Speaker 1: Crop pollination bees under threat overall. I believe you're among researchers have discovered seventy new native bee species.
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Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, that is a very good news story. We discovered, Well, there's a lot to discover yet in Australia. Basically there are a lot of areas where we didn't look very well and many of these these bees have been discovered in quite remote areas and then we only know them from one one location of course, so that is also very important that we know more because we don't even know whether we urgently have to protect these locations or off.
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Speaker 1: What I say here native these belonging to these what's that then?
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Speaker 10: Ah?
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Speaker 8: Yeah, the seventy one species new species that we found all belonged to the resin pop bees, and the resin pop bees are very special. They're only in Australia that Australia has so many We all know about kangaroos and cohalas as endemics, but we also have all of our nearly all of our insects are endemic to Australia. And so all our bees, nearly all our bees are and and so we've found these seventy one new species in one little group. And the females, they're solitary. They each do their own thing. They don't have workers and queens, et cetera. They don't make honey. But they build little resinme pods for their offspring and fill that with pullen a nectar and laying egg on it and then close it. And these resin pods are hanging off a branch or of bark often and that is where their offspring develops.
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Speaker 1: Wow, how many species would they be in Australia.
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Speaker 8: Well, at the moment it's now that we've added around seventy, it would be seventeen hundred and seventy. We do think that there are still about seven eight hundred to be discovered.
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Speaker 1: And I mean, is this number growing all the time? Is there a lot of cross breeding?
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Speaker 8: There's not. Evolution doesn't go that fast. Evolution definitely does keep up with extinction at the moment, unfortunately. But the only thing we can do is make sure we care for it right. We can keep it if we care for it.
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Speaker 1: When it comes to two bees, are they migratory. I mean, do you find the same sort of bees all over Australia, or you know there's some you know in South Australia that aren't common in Queensland and the like, or do they sort of pretty much spread over the nation?
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Speaker 8: That there are some species that are pretty widespread and they often are very generalists in their taste for food, food plants, but there are very very many local specialists as well, and there are very many species that we know from one or only a few locations, and so it's a bit of a mixed back then.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, well, with over seventeen hundred to look at, you've got a lot of work to do. CUTCHA, thank you so much for your time today. That's cutcher Hook and Dawn with the School of Agriculture, Food and Wine at the University of Adelaide. Seventy one new Australian bee species discovered. That adds to the seventeen hundred that we already have. What about the I should have asked about the Ligurian bees on on kangar Island, unique the purest breed on the planet. I believe a double two three double double. Oh, we're going to take a break and after that it's Australian Made Week and we're going to speak to something to somebody who is uniquely South Australian and they're putting out a product that is specially South Australian five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings at nineteen past eleven five Double A. There's growing speculation about the future of the Coalition in Candra this morning, I mean drawn out negotiations over a new deal between the Liberals and the Nationals. Nationals leader David little Proud is speaking to the media at Parliament our as we speak. The party says Little Proud will make an announcement in relation to the coalition agreement and we will have that as soon as it comes to hand. Certainly, if we don't have it between now and midday, I'm sure we will, but certainly Kendall Bretty will have the latest. Well, if you didn't know it, this is Australian Made Week, a celebration of Australian made products and the people who make them. It's my very great pleasure to welcome into the studio Steve Ranchich, production manager of Adriatic Slumber Betting. Steve, good morning.
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Speaker 7: To you, a morning Graham, How are you good.
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Speaker 1: Thanks, It's lovely to have you here as part of Australian Made Week. It's an important time, I think, because if ever in our history, we need to celebrate all that's good about Australia is now and when it comes to manufacturing and business and so forth, so much is done offshore and we really appreciate when, in particular South Australian business is such a success story. So you're a production manager at Adriatic Slumber Betting. What's the history of your company? Has it been operating?
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Speaker 7: We've been there fifty years. My parents started it back in nineteen seventy four, right not far from here, actually a small shop in Sturt Street in the city. Dad was an escapee escape from Croatia fifty five two years in camp there and came here as a refugee, met mum and then yeah, started the company in fourth of July nineteen seventy four.
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Speaker 1: So long history, ye, why Betting, I mean that just seems to be an unusually area to get into, in a specialized area.
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Speaker 7: When Dad was in Italy, he rolled a cart around. He'd get a leaf passed from the camp and roll a cart around to some Italian families and roll edge the mattresses and put new filling in them. So that's where the trade started. He'd had posted a few chairs once he landed here in Adelaide and then got a job with BBB Betting, and that's what started it and has then gone on from there. He was a foreman at sleep Maker and several other places and had the nickname of the boy with the Golden hands, so the magic touch. Eventually him and Mum he went and started his own through a friend that suggested that he should be out on his own.
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Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean that'd be a big risk, wouldn't it. I mean, if you've got no financial backing and so forth, to decide to leave the comfort and safety of a regular wage to say, well, I'm going to start out on my own. Correct.
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Speaker 7: No car till he was at the age of forty, Mum and him had catched the bus into the city every day. In Sirt Street there was a phone box out the front. I remember a story where he told me that one of the blokes, I think it was from Cox Foys, took six mattresses and he asked him to take on for him, and he rang him the next day from the phone box, he said, how'd you go with those beds made? He said, oh, they're all sold. He said, well can you give me another six?
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Speaker 1: Really?
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Speaker 7: And then from there it's gone on. And you know the little corn news day is Graham and A Central furnitures and radio rentals. You know Harris Scarf's massive players that were back in the thing. And you know all of those icon companies are closing down or gown.
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Speaker 1: Adriad X uplive them more.
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Speaker 7: And we're still there after fifty years. So the loyalty of the South Australian people to our company is second to none. And it's an emotional time. It's hard, but we we'll keep pushing on.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can well imagine, I mean, and if you're passionate about it. And I can tell that you are passionate about it too. So did you willingly come into the business? Do you have ideas to do anything else?
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Speaker 7: I left school when I was fourteen years old and sort of like got told, well, you're either staying at school or you're coming to work for me. So I did go and work for dad. I've done something different. After about twenty years, went out on my own and then I think it was probably the best thing I'd done. I came back and after about six years, and you know, I love what we do.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we got a great product. What is the secret of a good mattress? Number one?
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Speaker 7: I think it needs to be local. There's plenty of local people here.
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Speaker 1: The product's got to be right.
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Speaker 7: What we source, the materials that we use, we get whatever we can from South Australia. We back with the disabled people down at the Track Furniture they make all our base fames, Joyce fomes, our products that we put a second and none the wall that we use, and pocket springs. There's pocket springs, there's you know, there's good and bad and everything sow. You really got to know what you're looking at on hands on I work. I still make beds by hand. Our staff are very very loyal, well trained and good at what they do and take pride in the product. So, you know, I think if people go into a shop, they need to ask for a local product. That's the key. If they ask where's it made? Is it done here? You know, if there's a problem, we all get problems.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but at least major production line in China.
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Speaker 7: Or you know, there's changes that can be made, there's things that can be done.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: So yeah, you know we are a great great respect and you know we're very lucky. That's South Australian people, as you well know, are very very loyal.
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Speaker 1: They certainly are only only only loyal to a good product. They're not going to be loyal to something that's substandard. Yes, so you've got to be producing something of high quality or like all of us, you want you want value for money, Corre, that's all you ask for.
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Speaker 7: Correct.
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Speaker 1: When it comes to bedding, it's a very personal. I know when the last time we bought a mattress, you know, everybody someone will say, oh this, this sort of mattress is good. You want it really firm, and that doesn't suit me. So you know you can't tailor make it to every single person. So how many different sort of varieties of mattress and hardness and so forth would you have?
01:24:48
Speaker 7: Oh look, we do combination bet a thing called combination bed now where one half is firm, one half radium. Yeah, you can flip it over and have soft. So we try and cater for everything. We use a liquid gel phone which is great for pressure saws. And all of that sort of things. We do adjustable beds. So there's so many different varieties that are out there, and we're into getting more into a niche mark. And I think now where there's pillow tops and top end product, that's what the people are looking for. They want great they want good quality, they want something that's going to last. And we've got second generation where people from you forty years ago that brought the back backrest that my dad first bought out registered by Chiropractice ring and ask for the same product today, Oh can we still get that bed? Yeah, we can get that bed. It's updated, of course, and it's better now. And then you know our commercial range and everything else that we do in hotels and everything we get people that look at the label ring up and ask for the same product that they've just been sleeping on in a hotel.
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Speaker 1: With mattresses. Is do they have a life? Do they at some stage just give out? And that's it.
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Speaker 7: I think that you know, when you're looking at a single sided bed, you're probably seven to eight years, ten years. But with a double side of bed, you know, if you're looking at a double side of pillow top, like our anniversary run at the moment that we're doing. You flip the bed if it's slit two or three times a year. That's why it's designed to sleep on the other side and rotate it. You should expect to get at least ten years out of the problem. As I said, if there's a problem, we're here, We're in the state, we're here.
01:26:38
Speaker 1: And that's very reassuring if you pick up the phone, absolutely and not speak to a robot.
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Speaker 7: Absolutely. We don't turn people away. You know, if they've bought a product and you know they're a month and it's too hard now, you know, look they've gone back.
01:26:50
Speaker 1: To the shop. We help.
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Speaker 7: We do what we can if they're to make them happy and make sure they're satisfied.
01:26:55
Speaker 1: What are your most popular mattresses?
01:26:58
Speaker 7: Probably the Liquid Gel and the Summer Winter and at the moment the fifty year one that we're doing, the Celebration bed, which is coming with two mattress protectors, a mattress protector and two pillows. That's absolutely flying out. It's a medium bed. But our top products at the moment that seem to be moving a liquid gel, one sided pocket spring beds and Summer Winter, where obviously wintertime, one side's got wool, and summertime you're sleeping on a dakron surface which is much cooler.
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Speaker 1: So if I mean, we don't buy mattresses and bedding all that often, but when we do people are looking for advice, do they come stray to you at Adriatic or outlet retail outlets.
01:27:41
Speaker 7: Or yeah, we've got retail outlets. They can ring the factory. We're more than happy to help them and guide them through where to go and what are the stores. We've got stock us in Adelaide and right through this outh Australian country area, massive support from the country area, Portagusta, Cadena, Tenant, craw Northern Territory. So yeah, they can just they can ring us. We've had people they'll come down to the factory because I'm a manufacturer and have a look at the product and ask questions how it's made and what's what, and then we got them off to a shop.
01:28:16
Speaker 1: So, Steve, what is the future for the Adriatic. Will it continue on in the family after you? I mean, you've got a lot of years left in you. But where's it go from here? Yeah?
01:28:27
Speaker 7: I'd like to think so, I hope it continues on. It'll depend a lot, I think on the support that we get from South Australia. If that continues, I'm sure will be there.
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Speaker 1: So we'll keep up the product and the standard you have and I'm sure you'll be around for a long time yet. Yeah, thank you, gra thanks for dropping by. Well, you appreciate your chat. Steve Ranchers, production manager of Adriatic Slumber Bedding. It's part of Australia and made week a celebration of Australian and made products and the people who make them. Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings twenty two twelve five A well, a bombshell out of Canada, where there was growing speculation about the future of the coalition the Liberals and the Nationals met. Nationals leader David Littleploud spoke to the media only a short time ago, and this is what he had to say.
01:29:17
Speaker 19: We have set out on our journey of trying to reshape a coalition agreement.
01:29:22
Speaker 1: Now I'm going to make it clear from.
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Speaker 19: The start and the outset we've done that at the pace of Susan Lee, taking into account and respecting the personal circumstances that she's found herself in this morning, after the discussions that both Susan Lay and I have had over the ensuring period, our party room has got to a position where we will not be re entering a coalition agreement with the Liberal Party after this election. What we have got to a position is that the National Party will sit alone on a principal basis, on the basis of looking forward, not having to look back, and to try and actually regain important policy pieces that change the lives of the people we represent. It's on a pressiple position of making sure that those hard fought wins are maintained.
01:30:12
Speaker 1: Well there it is David Little Proud announcing the coalition is no more. Along an extensive meeting with Susan Lee, the new leader of the Liberal Party, they could not reach a level of agreement. We don't know the detail at this stage, but now dut Kendall will have more in the news at midday. But the coalition no longer exists. So what does that mean? Probably with the sitting of Parliament, not a whole lot. But when it comes to the next election, the Liberal Party already decimated, the National Party pretty well held its seats and did okay at the election, So what does that mean for the next election three years away. But I'm sure the Labor Party is sitting back smirking, saying, there you go, three more years, three more years eight double two to three is the number to ring GM. We are oged to buy Australia and South Australia and support local companies, but not every family can do that because in most cases the product is more expensive. You have to weigh up a whole lot of factors. But if there's only a little difference and you can support the local product because the money that you spend here stays here. The money you spend on and overseas into state product ends up inter state. So consider that. Weigh that up. It might be a little bit more expensive as long as the quality is right up there, because I don't agree with buying if the quality is inferior. If the quality is up there, the price is pretty reasonable, pretty similar. Remember the money does stay in this part of the world. This year, the first National Living with Dementia Survey is going to be conducted. The Australian Institute of Health and Welfare, University of Canberra will be recruiting people living with dementia to tell us more is Associate professor at the University of Canberra, Nathan Dakuna. Nathan, good morning to you.
01:31:57
Speaker 17: Good morning Graham.
01:31:59
Speaker 1: What can you tell us about this Living with Dementia Survey.
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Speaker 17: Yeah, So the survey is a national project and its purpose is to gather firsthand information about the experiences and the needs and different challenges based by people living with dementia and the people who care for them. So it covers a range of topics like receiving a dementia diagnosis, the coordination of care and use of their support services, and the types of support available for those people who support them.
01:32:27
Speaker 1: Has there been nothing like this done before?
01:32:30
Speaker 17: No, there hasn't been anything close to this expensively done in terms of talking to people with dementia, learning about their experiences and how they are coping with navigating the healthcare system. So it's really going to have an impact. Are potentially in response to the National Dementia Action Plan that was released in December last year.
01:32:51
Speaker 1: So are you just talking to people with dementia or their families as well?
01:32:56
Speaker 17: They're also talking to their families. So we need to recruit two thousand people with dementia and two thousand care partners. So we do want to get the experience of those who do care for people with dementia, who play such an important role in our health economy and keeping people living well in the community of with dementia.
01:33:14
Speaker 1: There's so much that's still unknown about dementia, so I guess you're having this will reveal more for you.
01:33:20
Speaker 17: Yeah, that's right. We know that people have challenges receiving a timely diagnosis and there's still a lot of stigma around dementia in the community, so we want to learn more about those experiences and how so we can inform the government to design policy and commit funding to help make that process a bit smoother and enable people to improve their quality of life and maintain their well being for as long as possible while living in the community. I mean, we definitely know that it challenging people to navigate the age care system as well, so trying to identify those challenges and hopefully come up with some solutions down the trap.
01:34:00
Speaker 1: What sort of questions will be asked during the survey.
01:34:04
Speaker 17: So in particular, we want to know about how soon they were able to see a doctor or medical specialist to receive a diagnosis, what sort of delays there were in receiving that, particularly once people receive a diagnosis. We know how important it is for people to get early intervention and to be connected with services and to have a toolkit in place for the future, but quite often that's delayed for a number of different reasons. We want to ask them how quickly they are getting referred to Dementia Australia for example, or to other community supports. We also want to find out about their experiences of stigma within the community and how that is possibly providing barriers to receiving that timely access and support. We want to know what they think about the services that they use as well, whether they're appropriate to their needs and whether they are suitable for people with dementia.
01:34:55
Speaker 1: I guess that is a trying and very difficult time for the family of someone something from dementia know how to handle them. Is there anywhere to go to get that sort of advice? You know? You know, my mother is a mind is wandering and she keeps asking the same questions and so forth. Do we correct or do we go with her? I mean there are more questions and answers I would.
01:35:19
Speaker 17: Think, yeah, that's right. It can be challenging and quite often a lot of people are sort of bombarded with information after receiving a diagnosis, which can be quite overwhelming and paralyzing for some. We know that Dementia Australia across the country do provide a lot of that great early support after receiving a diagnosis, but we know that that's not enough. There needs to be more within the public health system and we know that people need assistance being connected to what support and what's funding is available to them.
01:35:52
Speaker 11: There's a lot of people.
01:35:53
Speaker 17: Out there doing a lot of great work, but things aren't well connected and we need to make sure that people do have a sort of a clear path after receiving that diagnosis. I think, like you alluded to, it can be quite confronting at first once receiving that diagnosis. And making sure that supports are available at different stages of that dementia pathway as well as going is really important for Australians with dimension.
01:36:20
Speaker 1: How do you go about getting people to take part in the survey.
01:36:23
Speaker 17: So we want people to go to our partner Step Up for Dementia Research and to register for that and they'll be able to be connected to the survey through there. So if you just go to Google on search for a step up for dementia research, it will come up and it's a really easy to follow process and it's a really great website that helps connect people to researchers around Australia and we'll get people connected to the survey as well.
01:36:48
Speaker 1: The issue of dementia is a very sensitive one and people would be wary that, you know, giving out this information. How is the survey information protected?
01:36:59
Speaker 17: Yeah, so all provided is kept confidential. No identifying information will be released as part of the survey. It's all collated information and we were reporting the total sample as a whole. We do have a number of different options for people to complete the survey where they would like to do it by a phone, or by a video interview or by a paper and everything will be kept confidential. Here at the University of Camera where we're hosting.
01:37:25
Speaker 1: The survey, will be very interested to see the outcome. Nathan Pacuna, Associate Professor at the University of Canberra on the upcoming Living with Dementia Survey eight double two three double From the text line, surely Susan Lee won't further infuriate the NATS and appoint their deserter JN Price to a shadow Captet position. Thank you, con Good morning, Gig. It's time for Australians to react like they do in Europe. We should all strike and protest in front of Parliament House and get our message across that we don't accept this and other issues that arise in this country. Australian's fortunately have the attitude. She'll be right, mate. The government can pass anything they want through without a fight. No use planning for the future as they keep changing the system and we do not know what we will find in front of us regards Tass, thank you for that, Tess. Yeah, we are pretty well laid back, aren't we in this country. In other countries they will you know, not right in the streets, but march in the streets to protest against government plans and moves. But in this country, she'll be right. Tony, good morning, a ground.
01:38:31
Speaker 20: I would like to commend a better way you said was born and then yesterday. I better a man that starts now. And it's thirty forty year time. If it's a true life in four four million dollars, Yeah, do you read it's thirty forty year time? How many times the Parliament changes? Yes, yes, it's okayful now, but who knows what happens. It's thirty forty years time. It doesn't change this mind or work in the home in a week. Yeah, so I realized in forty years time the four million dollars and two million dollars, So I'm sure it will go up to four or four six seven million dollars in forty years to thirty.
01:39:21
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, once, once a government introduces a text, they never go back. You're paying too much.
01:39:27
Speaker 20: You're paying too much, but I'm only commenced. And then you said, a guy in thirty four years time will make four and they will pay attack in forty years time it'll be probably the limit six seven million dollars.
01:39:42
Speaker 1: Plan, so it'll be even more your reckoning.
01:39:46
Speaker 20: No, no, the guy won't reach the amount.
01:39:49
Speaker 1: You won't needed. Is that what you're saying?
01:39:51
Speaker 20: Oh no, if he gets four million dollars in forty years time, Yeah, the limit will probably be eight million dollars for tex So.
01:40:01
Speaker 1: You're sure they're not saying there's any limit at the moment though, they're not saying it at all. It's not indexed. They're just saying that's what it is. Now, you're hoping. You're hoping that a future government will extend it. You're hoping on their wills.
01:40:14
Speaker 20: Graham's forty years time. It's another world. All won't be here. You won't be here.
01:40:19
Speaker 1: No, that's right. Well, look, Tony, I hope you're right. And I certainly hope for that young person who has saved their money and work hard and gets a four million dollar payout that they will not have to suffer this super tax. But you know, if you're relying on the government to do the right thing, good luck, die, good morning, Good.
01:40:41
Speaker 21: Morning, Graham.
01:40:41
Speaker 20: How I am today?
01:40:42
Speaker 1: Good? Thank you?
01:40:44
Speaker 20: Good Look.
01:40:45
Speaker 21: You know what, I'm amazed this was all known about before the election.
01:40:49
Speaker 1: Yep.
01:40:51
Speaker 21: Unfortunately, I think the Liberals really stuffed up in not pursuing this. But people voted this government in knowing this was coming in, so why are they winging about it.
01:41:03
Speaker 1: I've got to agree with you. I think the coalition, the Liberal Party in particular, did a very poor sales job on highlighting some of the failings and shortcomings of the government.
01:41:14
Speaker 21: Oh, they did a shocking job. They should have actually watched sky News all throughout the campaign, because they were the only ones that I saw watched and heard that actually highlighted these two taxes like the unrealized games one.
01:41:32
Speaker 20: Plus the super one.
01:41:34
Speaker 21: So you know, look, it's going to affect us and my kids in the future. Hopefully we get a different government in the near future and they make changes to it.
01:41:48
Speaker 5: That's all I can hope for.
01:41:49
Speaker 1: Good on your day. Well, it's going to be a long time, I think, because the Liberals will come from a long way back because there is no coalition any longer. In a suggestion that the parties may return to coalition in the future, but at this moment in time, David Little Proud has announced that the coalition no longer exists. Eight double two three double O double is the number to ring. We were talking last week to call Geraldine who had some issues about my age care. This is what you had to say, Geraldine, good morning.
01:42:22
Speaker 22: It's concerned people on my age care. I see the letter about a week ago. The main point support at home also provides access to the new funding pathway. There is restorative care and pathway which will increase funding from eight weeks of care to twelve weeks. You will continue to receive the same funding level as you do with your home care package under support at Home. Your annual budget amount will be managed quarterly. Any unspent funds you currently have will still be available. If you do not spend your quarterly budget, you can care over a maximum of one thousand dollars or ten percent, whichever is greater to the next quarter. Now that means if I save up five thousand dollars, when it comes to the next quarter, I have to I can transfer one thousand dollars, but that four thousand dollars that goes back to the government.
01:43:19
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's what it sounds like.
01:43:21
Speaker 22: But sure assisted with a package to help you put that's what you help need help with your needs to stay at home. Now they're going to take some of that away. Do you can? And I hope Mark Butler gets this from the medium ologers.
01:43:36
Speaker 1: Too well, Geraldine. Mark Butler's office was notified about it. Unfortunately, he was unavailable for comment, but we did get a release from his department. Older Australians want to live at home for longer than and reformed Support at Home program will allow them to do just that. As part of our age care reforms, for the first time, older Australians will receive greater support through a dedicated funding scheme of up to fifteen thousand dollars for the products, equipment, and home modifications they need to live at home independently for longer. The Assistive Technology and Home Modification scheme allows people to have greater access to essential care services such as ramps or wheelchairs, et cetera. Under the Support Home at Program, participants can move unspent funds of up to one thousand dollars or ten percent of their quarterly budget, whichever is higher between quarters to provide financial support for unplanned needs. Now, this goes on and on and on, but Geraldine, I think that just reinforces what you are saying. So I still think we need to get clarification from Mark Butler's office as if you can carry over that excess money, because it would seem unfair if you can't. So we will try and find more clarification on that eight double two to three double double the number back shortly five Double.
01:44:47
Speaker 2: A Mornings with Graham, Goodings.
01:44:50
Speaker 1: And the final eight minutes of the show. But after one you can have a chat with Stacey Lee. Stacey joins me. Now, good morning, Stacy.
01:44:56
Speaker 23: Hello Graham, how are you good?
01:44:58
Speaker 1: All happening in Camber.
01:44:59
Speaker 7: At the moment, it's all happening.
01:45:00
Speaker 23: I was just listening to the press conference with the Nationals leaders David Little Proud, Kevin Hogan and Bridget Mackenzie.
01:45:08
Speaker 7: This is huge, certainly is.
01:45:10
Speaker 1: I mean, how long has the coalition been in existence. I mean people sort of are seen as as acting as one for decade after decade, and all of a sudden the coalition is no longer.
01:45:21
Speaker 23: I think it's necessary At the moment, I think this is a good move. I mean, at the end of the day, they are two different parties and have different interests certainly, and have to appeal two very different bases. And at the moment the Liberal Parties not really appealing to its previous base, I don't think in my opinion. And so when you have competing interests of the Liberal Party needing to win back some metropolitan seats because they've basically been wiped out in Metro Australia.
01:45:55
Speaker 1: I hardly hold a metropolitan seat anywhere in Australia. Yeah, which is amazing. I mean the National Party obviously is more regional and rural and they did pretty well, yeah, comparatively speaking.
01:46:07
Speaker 23: So and that's where their focus is and should be. They represent regional Australia and the Liberal Party to a certain extent also does well. Now it largely does, but they do need to win back those metro seats and having a focus on nuclear energy. I was listening to the press conference and that was one of the big sticking points that David little Proud said. The parties couldn't agree on nuclear energy policy. They wanted that to be a part of the mix moving forward. So it seems like that was a clear difference for the two parties and I think this is good. I think the Deputy Nationals leader Kevin Hogan put it well.
01:46:41
Speaker 7: He said this is.
01:46:43
Speaker 23: A breakup, and couples break up and more often than not they come back together with a renewed interest, with shared interests and reinvigoration of being together and making it work. And I'm sure we will do that at some point before the election. To bring Anthony Albernezi down. I think we're his words.
01:47:01
Speaker 1: Well, it's not like the Nationals are going to find another partner. They're not going to say, hey, these Greens look all.
01:47:05
Speaker 7: Right, well I don't know one nation.
01:47:07
Speaker 1: Ah okay, No.
01:47:10
Speaker 7: I mean no, I don't think the natural right.
01:47:12
Speaker 1: Coalition is their Liberal National Party. But for the time being I agree with you. I think it's a good move that they separate and go their own ways and do what's best for their constituents. Yeah, well what's left of them.
01:47:24
Speaker 23: Yeah, absolutely, So we'll talk about it this afternoon. We'll go to Canberra. We'll find out what this means. Because of course it means that a lot of the Nationals MPs will lose money. They won't be shadow ministers.
01:47:39
Speaker 1: Oh of course, yeah, yeah, so the Liberal Party will have to provide all the shadow minister I don't know how deep their talent pool is.
01:47:47
Speaker 23: I think they only have twenty eight seats and there's twenty nine portfolios or twenty nine ministers.
01:47:54
Speaker 1: It's forty nine portfolios.
01:47:56
Speaker 23: There's thirty nine and ten of them are assistant Oh okay, you're assistant ministers. I was looking at it the.
01:48:03
Speaker 1: Other day, Jeeves.
01:48:04
Speaker 23: Yeah, so's Yeah, there's twenty nine ministers and then ten assistant ministers that the government has. But yeah, it's very interesting. So there'll be lots of double ups. But it means, yeah, some of those Nationals MPs who were previously shadow ministers and were on a higher paypacker. It won't be on that anymore.
01:48:22
Speaker 1: I wonder if they thought about that.
01:48:25
Speaker 23: So we'll break it all down this afternoon. We'll keep talking about it and speaking of splitting from your party. I will also have Jingle in the studio Upper House MP. She has announced that she will be running at the next state election under a banner of a new political party that she's launched. It's called Jingle Better Community. So she'll join me in the studio to talk about what the focus of her party will be, why she thought this move was necessary. Was it a tough call for her because when she announced she was leaving the Liberal Party, she hadn't quite made up her mind if she was going to contest the next election or not. So clearly she now has. She's registered a political party, she's got policies and I'm sure focuses that she wants to look at. And so I'll looking forward to having that chat with Jinglee, excellent, one of the current very big cross bench in the Upper House. We've got talk back gardening as well with Diane Hall, and we'll break down the interest rates decision as that happens this afternoon. We'll get it this afternoon we'll talk about the superannuation changes that are on the way.
01:49:27
Speaker 7: State of the arts.
01:49:28
Speaker 23: Virginia Gay Cabaret festivals coming up very soon. Starts at the end of the month, and it's Turkey Tuesday, so I'm minded an extra our, Graham.
01:49:36
Speaker 1: You might not need to start early, Stacy Stacey Lee coming off up after one this afternoon. Let's take a call Ken good morning.
01:49:44
Speaker 13: Oh, good morning, Graham.
01:49:45
Speaker 17: I hope you're will very well.
01:49:46
Speaker 12: Thanks, that's the fellow.
01:49:48
Speaker 13: Look, I just received a bendy Go Bank email and and towards knowing about it, I'm not a Bendigo Bank customer, so on delete.
01:50:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be definitely. It's a good warning for other people though that it might be Bendigo Bank customers' what's it saying? What's it asking of you?
01:50:12
Speaker 9: The confirmation of your identification?
01:50:15
Speaker 13: I hit a link and everything like that. Yeah, so I'm not a customer of theirs anyway, So I just thought I'd give you a call and put it out there for you.
01:50:25
Speaker 1: No good on you can thank you very much for doing that. And I encourage people that if you get something that you think is a scam, alert people because the more people that we alert the better. Bendigo Bank, like all the banks, are subject to scams. They're on their Facebook page, You've got the scam alert. We're aware that scamers are currently posing as members from our fraud team. I may call or send an SMS message indicating you've been exposed to fraud or that your Internet banking has been compromised. They say things to remember. Bendigo Bank will never request personal information such as PIN password, sixty to E banking security code, or ask you to log into online services from an email or SMS. They will never ask you to click on a link, et cetera, et cetera. If you have any queries you're never sure or not sure about something, ring your bank, if it be Bendigo Bank or any other bank, ring them direct. Don't click on links from on texts or emails, and when in doubt, assume it's a fake, because many, many times it is. Good on you Ken. Thank you for that, and I encourage anyone who is not so sure about something that they think it's a scam ring us up, give us a call and we'll check it out for you. That's it for today, Thank you so much for your company. We'll be back tomorrow to do it again.
01:51:40
Speaker 2: Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings
