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Speaker 1: Good morning to you. Welcome to a brand new week on five A this Monday, the twentieth day of April. I hope you had a good weekend. Magnificent weather, wasn't it. I'm looking at the week ahead, it's quite remarkable. I think around this time of year April, what do we expect? Low twenties, which is pretty good. But today twenty four, although looking outside you don't think it's going to be anything special. Twenty four cloud clearing twenty eight, Tuesday, twenty six, Wednesday, twenty eight, Thursday, twenty eight Friday. Well, I call it an Indian summer and enjoy it way it can, because we know winter will be here soon enough. Well, on the show today, Donald Trump says there will be no more mister ny Sky if Iran doesn't take the very fair and reasonable deal that has been offered. Tensions in the Gulf of sharply escalated after the President claimed US force has seized an Iranian flag vessel amid an attempted or mose blockade breach. We will have a chat to Michael Shubridge from these Strategic Analysis Australia about the latest situation and the latest developments. Also, it would appear that One Nation supporters has dropped according to two poles out today, we'll speak with nine Radio Federal Politics editor Michael Packy about that. Has the dust settled on the seat of Larga. A new One Nation MP survived the missing votes Debarkle in South Austradia's most marginal seat, and more than eighty uncounted votes were discovered. Thankfully for the One Nation MP, most of them went to her. But we'll have a chat about what is happening with our electoral system with Professor of Politics Clem McIntyre. Australia is heading for a population of forty million people by twenty sixty five. That's fourteen million more than the more in just forty years time. But the Planning Institute of Australia says that's that's not a good thing because there's no national plan to manage it. We'll take a look at that. We're running the risk of overcrowded cities'suring harsing costs, well, we've got those already. Gridlock, traffic well it's not getting any better, and services stretched beyond reasonable. We'll speak with National President to Emma Riley. She says good planning isn't optional, it's essential. There are new blood donation eligibility rules they're taking effect in Australia, safely paving the way for gay and bisexual men and transgender people in long term monogamous relationships to donate blood and platefits. We're going to have a chat with the author of a book called Touching the Sky. Deborah Laurie was a pioneering pilot. I think you would say had the female pilot. It goes way back to the nineteen fifties when she got her pilot's license, dreaming of flight in an era when women were expected if they took to the air, was as an air hostess. That will make some pretty interesting reading. Also something that I'd like Your views on parents and young kids at Glenside Park playground were intimidated when around twenty topless men from the Ready for Fitness group took over the children's play equipment last Sunday. The men did chin ups on monkey bars, push ups. It took over the near nearby climbing net, set up their banners and flags, effectively claiming the space. Now parents, not surprisingly, you asked them to move on. We're ignored. Is this acceptable? Should we expect this in what I would say as a kid's playground. They didn't seek a council approval for it. What do you think. I'd like to know your thoughts on it and if you were one of the Ready for All Fitness group and took her part in it, let's know why did you have to take over a playground the way you did? Eight double two to three DOUBLEO is the number to ring. Did you see the seven new Spotlight investigation last night, The Green Dream. We spoke to Liam Bartlett, the journalist involved last week about it. It lifted the lid on the dark underbelly of Australia's renewable energy and electric vehicle transition. Liam Bartlett went pretty much underground to reveal Chinese controlled minds in Indonesia, where child labor, dangerous working conditions and severe environmental destruction are rife in the extraction of nickel and other critical minerals essential for batteries, solar panels and wind turbines. The working conditions were horrific. It is just hard to believe in this decade that we can seize things happening like that. The program followed the supply chain from toxic open pit mines and polluted rivers in developing nations, through the Chinese refining plants, and into Australia's clean energy projects. The program highlighted heart the global scramble for green technology minerals is exacting a heavy human and ecological toll on some of the world's porest communities. Bob Brown, who was the founder of the Greens, was in fact damning and we know he is certainly into renewables, but he opposes a lot of what is being done. I'd like to know your thoughts on it, pro or con. Did you see the special report the Green Dream on seven New Spotlight program last night? Eight double two to three double double Oh is the number to ring. Love to hear from me. Before we take a break, Let's take a call Ross. Good morning, Graham.
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Speaker 2: I just like to make a comment on this sulfur that's going into the our fuel. I run a diesel vehicle and normally I would get eight point one eight point three liters per one hundred kilometers around town. I'm now getting eleven and a half around town and I've filled up two or three times. And I had to put my car in for a service yesterday and I said to the my mechanic. I said, it's something wrong with the car. They said, no, it's a soulful my putting in. It doesn't burn as fast as your diesel, so therefore therefore you're going to use it. So not only am I getting charged over three dollars a liter, I'm using about four liters more per one hundred k's which is another what fourth twelve fifteen dollars, So you know we're copying it both ways. And I guess I petrol is the same.
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Speaker 1: Now you make an interesting observation, Ross, you reckon. This is just since where they relax the rules to allow more solfur in petrol and and the detail, Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Well yeah, that's that's what they're saying, that they're putting sulfur in it. And talking to another mechanic then and he said, a couple of truckage, they put so much diesel in they're really having to consider as to whether they'll need to empty their tank out every so often and clean their tank because it's not it's not burning as clean as what diesel does as a very slow burner. And yeah, so.
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Speaker 1: I thought it was only going to be a marginal difference. Ross because it wasn't it going back to the standard that we had only last year.
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Speaker 2: I don't know, Dram. I only had this vehicle for the last twelve months, and I know this, but I till a small caravan. Now, when I tied a small caravan, so up, so I go up to eleven point three or leven point four. But that's not what I'm getting around town, and I cannot get at any lawa. And I'm not a mechanical answer that, but I'm just wondering, if it's not burning as fast and it's you're consuming more, isn't that doing any damage? Save therefore or not? Is the government telling us the truth for or not? You know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: Well, there was a reassurance that it wouldn't cause any damage because it was only a tiny fraction, because weren't they going to mix it with the fuel they already had, so it was a cocktail mixed, so the level of sulf was only minuscule. I think we're going to have to get some official comment on this ross an expert in the field, because you know, I mean, that is quite concerning. If you've noticed a discernible difference in the amount of leaders per one hundred kilometers that you're getting good on your ross, sir, thanks for that. We will certainly see what we can find out. Does anybody else notice whether it be diesel or petrol that you're getting. You know you're needing more petrol or diesel for the kilometers that you cover. What does it leads? Excused to be males bagallon. That was easy to work out these days. It's litas per one hundred kilometers. If you've noticed a discernible change, let us know about it. Eight double two to three double O double oh when we come back after the break one nation support has apparently dropped in the latest Poles.
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Speaker 3: Five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Thy Past nine five double A on this Monday morning. I hope we find you well, Andrew says. The Spotlight story also talked about the huge amount of trees. Oops machine just reframed on me. The Spotlight story also talked about the huge amount of trees needed to be cleared in New South Wales and Victoria for wind farms, and that they had to build roads up to seventy meters wide just to be able to transport the wind turbines and the advice to the land clearers for any injured animals they see is to hit it on the head with a blunt object. This is for so called green energy. What is green all of our concerning, isn't it? Sue says morning. I've checked with Yondai regarding our under warranty ConA, and it will not be covered if we knowingly put in dirty fuel. Same as our insurance company sent a message to my federal member about this issue and heard nothing, So at port no longer thank you for that. So yeah, I think this is concerning now, you know, I don't know the technicalities of it all I know, but they allowed us to slip back to our old standard regarding fuel and the level of sulfur. Now that standard was in existence up until twelve months ago and cars ran fine on it. They've reimposed or slipped back to the old rule because of fuel shortages. But if you're finding out from the car dealers and the fact that you're not covered if you're putting in dirty fuel, is this considered to be dirty fuel? I hope you watched the Spotlight program last night. Absolutely no, yes, I certainly did watch it regarding the fuel and the caller saying that he was getting fewer killometers per liter. Hi gg, tell this guy to reset his lph meter? Wow, could you do that? Can you do that? Last night's Spotlight makes me a shame to be a human. I will never buy an ev or have solar panels. I'd like a program comparing new age coal power stations to what was on Spotlight. I'll bet coal would come out on top. That's a big call, Lean, But yeah, thanks for making the point eight double two three double o double Oh is then nob at ring if you'd like to make a comment, Well, are we seeing the first chinks in the armor of Pauline Hansen's One Nation Party? Two poles are today show support for one Nation that we're at record highs have slipped back. Michael Packy, who we often speak to, is nine Radio federal politics editor. He joins us. Now, Michael, thanks for joining us. What are we to make of these latest poles?
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Speaker 4: Look, Graham, look, it's interesting they do both show that's news poll and resolve this show that you know, maybe support for one Nation is starting to plateau, so one Nation is still competitive, like I think the news polls got it at about twenty four percent supporting terms of its primary vote and resolve is on twenty two percent. That's still a fairly strong figure for One Nation, and much higher than last year's federal election. So clearly they've been able to hold on to that core support. But I think that what both polls do show is that essentially, as they come into a lot more scrutiny, voters are seeking a lot more answers from Pauline Hansen and her party. So I think it's about voters saying, all right, we know that one nation stands for lower immigration, but you know what does that actually mean? You know how much lower? And if it is lower, what does that also mean for businesses? We know that one nation stands for you know, zero not a scrapping net, zero missions target, scrapping the climate change Department? Again, what does that actually mean? What does it mean in terms of current contracts that are involved in the renewable energy sphere if the Climate Change Department were to close, as One Nation would like. So I think that what's happening here is that what we're starting to see is that people, as one nation comes under a lot more scrutiny, people want a lot more answers from the party and if they're not getting answers that they quite like, well, it seems that they're starting to shift their vote back to the major parties, whether it be Labor or the Coalition.
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Speaker 1: It'd be fair to say that One Nation exceeded expectations in the South Australian poll though, wouldn't it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely One Nation exceeded the expectations in say, and it'll be interesting to see how the next four years work out for One Nation. Look, it sounds as though that their leader in the state, Corey Bernardi, is probably going to be able to do enough to galvanize the people that have been elected and to make sure that they work as a united team.
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Speaker 1: But that's going to be.
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Speaker 4: The real issue for One Nation, especially in South Australia, is that, you know, are they going to be able to maintain unification. Are they going to be able to stay unified as a party, Because in the past we've seen before when one nation has done well at a state level, it seems that after about a year or so, it all implodes. So the question here will be and the challenge here will be for One Nation. Sure they've done well in South Australia, Uh they do have a you know, a solid leader in someone like Corey Bernardi who's been around the political traps and knows, you know, the politic and knows the political system. But is he going to be able to do enough to really galvanize the party and unify the party behind a policy platform that they can get out there and explain to voters and hold the Malanowskis government to account. Because obviously now there's going to be there's this bit of contention as who actually is the official opposition. Is it One Nation or is it the Liberal Party because if essentially got the same amount of seats. But that's what I think will be the challenge for One Nation in Sa. It will be that unification process. Are they going to be able to remain unified or a year or two down the track or closer to the next state election, will things start to implode? The same thing in the Pharaoh by election, that's a federal by election, which is happening in a couple of weeks time. That's Susan Lee's old seat. She was obviously the opposition leader at a federal level that decided to quit politics altogether after she was dumped as the Liberal leader. The Pharaoh by election will be another test for One Nation as to whether or not they'll actually be able to snatch that seat from the Liberals. I was talking to some people on the weekend, Graham, and they were telling me that they think that One Nation is starting to really wane in that seat of Pharaoh. That while the polls show, you know, that they potentially could win it, there's people that were telling me that they don't actually think that'll be the case at all. They think that the Independent is likely to win the seat of Farah. It won't be the Liberals, it won't be the Nationals, but it won't be One Nation either.
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Speaker 1: What about Angus Taylor, He's had a few months in the top job in the Liberals. How are the polls looking for him?
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Speaker 4: Well, the polls, both the Polls and News poll and the Resolved poll today show that he is actually making some inroads. What the polls show today is essentially that Labor remains, you know, the number one party that you know, One Nation is either number two or number three, depending on which pole you're looking at, And the Liberals are starting and the Coalition more broadly is starting to make inroads, even if they are very marginal increases that they're making and what Angus Taylor, his job as opposition leader does, seem to be coming to some fruition. Both polls do show that he's you know, that he's standing within the electorate is still relatively high. Maybe because he's still new in the job. He's only been in the job for a couple of months. People are starting to get to know him, but at the moment it seems as though voters are liking what they're hearing. The funny thing is about both poles. The Resolve poll shows that support for Anthony Albanesi as preferred Prime Minister is on thirty three percent and Angus Taylor's on thirty two, So there's only one point in it between Angus Taylor and Anthony Albanesi in terms of who is you know, voter's preferred prime minister. In the News poll, the gap is a lot more wider. I think it's about ten points between Albanzi and Taylor. But what it does show is that Angus Taylor is slowly starting to edge up the coalition support and people are prepared to give him a go and hear him out.
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Speaker 1: Michael PACKI thanks so much. For your time today. That's nine Radio Federal Politics editor Michael Packy on One Nation slipping in support? Have you changed of you one way or the other, because, as we've said on this program many times that we have Pauline Hanson on or talk about Pauline Hanson and people would go crazy saying, why are you giving that woman time? A racists? She's this, she's that the other, and that changed dramatically to support. Has your thoughts about one Nation have they changed over recent times? Like to know your thoughts on that. Eight double two three double O double oh is the number? Back?
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Speaker 3: Shortly five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings had a very.
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Speaker 5: Good morning, Graham.
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Speaker 1: You've done us, You've done a poll. It confirms what I've always thought that there's a whole lot of mystery around the scooters. We don't know, as you know, whether we're motorists or ees, scooter users or pedestrians, what the rules are.
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Speaker 5: Well, that's right, and it's interesting since private ownership was allowed back in our use in the public realm back in July of last year, we're obviously see increase in the number of these devices out and about, but it's quite disturbing that the lack of knowledge, I suppose, around the fundamental rules about how they can be used and critically by who. For example, eighty five percent of the responses could identify the speed limits for the scooters, because they're there limits to ten kilometers power on the foot paths and twenty five kilometers now on the road. But probably even more concerned was a lot of the people didn't realize that you have to be at least sixteen years and over to be able to ride these devices in the public space.
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Speaker 1: So that's even on footpaths, is it.
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Speaker 5: Yes, that's right, even on foot for example, if you're people are buying these to their children, for example, they need to understand that if they're not sixteen years to rome and then they can only legally ride these devices on private property. So really important to understand this point, particularly if they were purchasing on the basis they could perhaps use them to ride to school, for example. So I think this highlights that the rules are comprehensive and well intentioned that obviously aimed at the safety of road users. But what this does highlight is we need to be doing a lot more work to ensure that people understand them.
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Speaker 1: Do you have to know the road rules to get on an e scooter?
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Speaker 5: You don't have to, but obviously it's important in the same way as anyone who rides a bike. So if you are going to ride, you need to understand basic rules such as give way, where you should be positioning your bike, and the general operation of road rules. So Eastwood is in particular when you're riding on the footpath and you're to understand that pedestrians have priorities on the footpaths for example, and you need to adjust your speed accordingly and simply when you're traveling on shared paths as well. And because if you're on the road itself you become like any other road users, you have to buy by signals and be aware of the environment in which you're traveling. And that's particularly important too for an e scooter because these devices are inherently not as stable as the biicon on the road. So the riders do need to ensure that they're confident and capable to ride these things safely, but they're also aware of what's going on around them and of course understanding those road rules. Who it's critical.
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Speaker 1: These new road rules, well we're introduced middle of last year and most people don't understand them. Is there a breakdown in the education system?
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Speaker 5: Look, I think we did quite a lot in the initial phase when these first became available for public use. It's probably fair to say that people have not perhaps fully understood all the elements that relate to these and that's certainly backed up by what we see in the survey results. So from our perspective, what we intend to do is to undertake a bit of a campaign to try and remind people about the specific rules that do apply when you're writing these devices, particularly around the speed limits and the importance of ensuring that when you're riding and you have a proper helmet as well, ideally a full face one to provide that level of protection if you're unfortunate enough to come off one of these devices and get involved in the crash. For example, we know from the police start that there's been fifty three injuries so far into een twenty five and there was one fatality as well, and bearing in mind a lot of the crashes and incidents that Clere are not reported, suggest that this is probably more of an issue than we really fully understand. So it does highlight the importance of people who are going to use these devices be fully aware of the importance of following the procedures, following the rules and ensuring they've got their appropriate safety equipment on as well.
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Speaker 1: Is there a governments review of ease good as underway?
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Speaker 5: Yes, it was when these laws were introduced in July last year. The intention was of the the operation of these rules would be reviewed in twelve months, so that's probably something that's going to be under the spotlight in the next couple of months, i'd suggest so, and obviously one of the things we'd be advocating for too. I mean, in principle, I think what the state has done here in comparison to a number of other states in particular, is we really took the best of the rules from the other jurisdics which were allowing the operation of these foodhists in the private in the public realm, and compile them together in a pretty comprehensive list of rules to ensure safe operation. But as I said, the survey highlights that we need to be doing more to ensure people fully understanding.
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Speaker 1: I believe there's an upcoming E safety road safety campaign. Is this directed at schools, kids? Parents? Who is going to be the focus? Yes?
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Speaker 5: Everyone, So anyone who's like to be riding one of these devices will be focusing on those particularly. It's probably an interesting time with the uncertainty about fuel, for example, at the moment, a lot of people might be looking to reduce their dependence on using they can't, perhaps switching to one of these kinds of devices for short journeys, for example. So if people are in that situation, they do need to be aware of the rules that apply around the safe operation of these devices.
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Speaker 1: I've seen some pretty horrendous figures these good injuries coming out of states like Queensland. How do our injury statistics stack up against other states?
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Speaker 6: Well?
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Speaker 5: As I said, there's certainly quite a few injuries have been recorded so far this year, and there's probably a higher level of underreporting as well. So I think given the fact that we've got pretty comprehensive laws in place certainly helps. But I think the importance is we need to be reinforcing these and particularly in the safety related ones in terms of the speed, the wearing of the helmets. The other important month across it's ensuring they've got a suitable white front and rear red light as well, particularly as we're going into shorter days and probably more adverse weather conditions as well. So really important to reinforce these laws and particularly about where they can be written on the roads as well. So for example, if you intend to ride on a road with a sixty kilo eater and our speed li it, it can only be done so if there's an operating bike roller bike lane. So if the bike lane doesn't operate for certain hours of the day, on those hours you need to be moving on to the footpath and then of course slowing down to ten maximum speed as well.
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Speaker 1: What about the idea of mandatory rule information or even age verification at the point of sale.
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Speaker 5: Well, that's an interesting point. Most of these devices are sold and they do have some information, but they really tend to put it back on the purchase to basically and the rules the words are often to the effective people needs to check the laws that applies the operation of these devices in the state in which they're purchased. So it's not really sufficient, and we think there's probably more that could be done in that regard as well to highlight importance, so particularly for parents who's buying is for their children and not understanding that there is that critical distinction that if they're under sixteen, they cannot be ridden in the public space.
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Speaker 1: As the RAI noticed an uptick in the use of these good as any bike since the fuel crisis.
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Speaker 5: Anecdotally there seems to be a little bit more, but I haven't seen any data that's actually confirmed at this stage, so we'll probably just keep an eye on that one. I think, at the end of the day, irrespective of what happens in the fuel crisis. These devices will always have a place because they serve there are convenient means of traveling short to medium distances, and they provide literally daughter or service for many people too. So I think that they will have their place. But obviously is it's really important that the people are going to use and they do so in a manner that's safe for them and also doesn't compromise the safety of pedestrians and road users as well.
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Speaker 1: Charles, just before I let you go, from the text line good morning, rarely see scooter riders with helmets. Seen riders zip from footpath through road, definitely not traveling at correct speed. Electric bikes allowed on footpaths.
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Speaker 5: So yeah, so bikes are allowed on part in the same way that scooters are. In both cases, of course helmets must be worn. E bikes is a bit more. That's a challenging area and we've seen a lot of situations where obviously people have been seriously abusing the use of e bikes. So that's something that we'll be following up on as well as a separate campaign. But the time being, we're focusing on e scooters and then the release of our campaign to highlight the key elements level of safety providers.
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Speaker 1: Charles good to chat. Thanks for your time today. Charles Martin raa senior manager of Road Safety and Infrastructure, on the subjective for e bikes and the laws e scooter's body of thoughts, Andrew says Friday, I saw an e bike in the right lane of a main road going with the flow of traffic, traveling at sixty kilometers an hour. And Saturday I saw two kids, probably ten years of age, riding on the one e scooter. I reckon the police need to be undertaking more blitzers. Your thoughts eight double two to three double O double oh. We'll take a look at stocks when we come back after the break.
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Speaker 3: Five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Stocks in just a moment, but later in the next in factor in the next hour, we'll be speaking with James Ward from Drive dot com dot Au. We had to call a concern that he is getting fewer kilometers using the diesel since the solfur level was increased. We'll find out if that is an aberration or that is in Think what's happening, we speak with James Ward from Drive dot com dot Au on the stock market. As the confusion in the Middle East continues. The market started the day down all odds down by forty three points. A SX two hundred down by forty four points. Brent Crue jumped up by four dollars to ninety six US dollars a barrel. West Texas crewed up by six dollars to ninety US dollars. Gold up by forty five dollars to four thousand, eight hundred and thirty three US dollars a barrel. Well, you don't get gold by the barrel. But I tell you what if you did get it by the barrel, it would be pretty expensive. So gold up by forty five dollars four thousand, eight hundred and thirty three US dollars announce. I think Sam said me up. The Aussie dollar currently buying seventy one point three US cents and that is strong. Times of some calls, I reckon Ian, good morning.
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Speaker 7: Good morning, grime. I have a really simple solution to this. Yeah, it's not going to go away. Its heat bikes, right, we all have to share the road. We all have a responsibility for our own safety and the safety of others. For top end of story, So regro the rider until you get a registration from service essay with a sticker with a specific helmet. You then get a permit. Then you can then go ahead and buy a bike. If you then fla out the laws go from the footpath to the road, go from you know you don't follow the road rules, standard road rules, Well then you get themandpoints and you get a fine. Now if you then have someone who isn't wearing one, well then the police have the authority to seize that bike and crush it. Do it a few times and then they'll get the mess. But the government are too weak, they are too week And I remember turbot Tom Kittson Turner saying he didn't want to be a nanny state. Well he's killing the nanny.
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Speaker 1: Good on you, Ian, thanks for that. Yeah. I think this is one way of making people on e bikes and escooters more accountable if they have to register them and there is some form of identification, because somebody can be on an escooter or an e bike breaking the law and you know you can go to the police or whatever and say, well he was wearing a dark trackie and you know it looked to be about fifteen years of age. Well, so what you can't track someone down like that, so maybe now is the time to take more serious action. Mark says, E scooters and e bikes. We walk our three dogs on the espalard regularly at Kingston Park and Seacliffe and Brighton down to Summitton Park and the speeding e bikes far out number the ees scooters. The bikes are recklessly speeding on the footpath. Most of them are mature riders forty to fifty plus, they would know the rules. Thank you for that, Mark. Let's go to Galla East. Paul, good morning, good morning, How are you good? Thanks? You want to talk about One Nation?
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Speaker 6: Yeah?
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Speaker 8: I don't believe half their polls. I mean absolutely everyone I talked to are for one Nation. And I don't know whether it's a bit of a tactic to lead people away from them because they're gaining power or not. But I think I think.
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Speaker 1: You're a conspiracy theorist, Paul. You don't think these polls are independent?
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Speaker 8: No, they pick little sections. I mean to a real poll, you know, pick thousands and thousands of.
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Speaker 1: The only real polls are the elections, aren't they? And the last real poll actually showed and that was the South of State and state election that one nation was very strong.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's right, and I believe they are. I continue to support them. So to everyone, I.
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Speaker 1: Know, good on your poll there, thanks for your input. Yet, look, I know polls are and then they've probably been more consistent and close to the mark in recent years, but they had a few horrendous years and I don't know if they've changed their methodology to make them more accurate. But people sort of say, you know, hoping to conduct a pole with only a few hundred people, Well, yeah, I know it is very inexact, but the cost of a pole that poles, say, fifty thousand people is very expensive. That's why poles are only a handful of people, and they try and take them from all demographics, all different areas to try and get a blend of the community, so they're prone to failure. But there is a trend, there's no doubt a trend with Resolve and Newspole both showing that one nation has slipped, not dramatically, but it has slipped noticeably. But the next major pole that will have some impact and show us will be the Victorian state election, of course, which will be in November. Jill says, good morning, rarely see scooter riders with a helmet. Seen riders zip from footpath to the road, definitely not traveling at the correct speed. Are electric bikes allowed on footpaths well? No Friday I s or an ee bike in the right lane of a main road going with the flow of traffic traveling at sixty kilometers an hour. Today, the NDIS blowout to fifty billion dollars. May be they should check Trevago and get a better deal. Someone's making a lot of taxpayers money. There is a major concern when you think that ten years ago NDIS did not exist and today its budget is bigger than the defense budget. Now, there's no question that the NDIS was needed, and it has performed wonderfully well in certain areas, but it seems to seems to be operating without any checks and balances, and the cost blowout is absolutely ridiculous. It's not serving fully that purpose it was. Therefore, in the meantime, the tech taxpayer is paying huge amounts. One nation support may be slip in because the successful candidates have been near impossible to access since the election, apparently due to being in training. Who wants candidates being ought to be trained to be like every other politician. I like the candidates before when they were being themselves. You make an interesting point, Andrew, are they going through an indoctrination process? I think it would be fair to say that Cory Bernardi, who is a very astute politician, realized that the people that have won seats are babes in the woods when it comes to dealing with the media, and I think he feared that they would get out of hand say things that they perhaps shouldn't say, and that's why everything is funneled through the more experienced people connected with a party like Corey Bernardi himself and Carlos Kuremba, who is the state leader. When we get to hear individually from the members, that will be very interesting to see. Kerry says, I have a twenty year old second car that has been running on the so called dirty fuel for nineteen out of its twenty years and still running fine. Kerry, I know, But those cars twenty years they were bulletproof, weren't they. They were built to last. The more I see of the huge amounts of rare earth that need to be mine for batteries, solar panels and windmills, and the massive amounts of land that needs to be cleared, plus the amount of energy to mine, manufacture, and transport these energy sources that also don't last, they need to be manufactured again and again. The more I reckon, we absolutely need to be including nuclear in the energy mix. Andrew, I agree with you. Nuclear is just held down, but so many developed nations have seen the benefits of nuclear, and it is the cleanest fuel of all. It lasts longer. I mean a nuclear power plant will last what eighty years or more? When we look at solar panels, what twenty five years? These windmills the same sort of lifespan. They have to be torn down and rebuilt. And at this stage the recycling element is very, very low. And what are we going to do with millions of tons of for old solar panels and old windmills? Mark? Good morning, Hello, Mark, Yes, go ahead, it's yours.
00:36:10
Speaker 3: Hello.
00:36:10
Speaker 9: I want to talk about the e bike situation.
00:36:13
Speaker 1: Sure.
00:36:14
Speaker 9: So I was walking my two dogs much in bitsy down the street yesterday.
00:36:19
Speaker 10: Yeah, and I was run off the road by someone on a knee bike, hitting me and nearly running over my dog.
00:36:30
Speaker 1: Were they traveling at speed?
00:36:32
Speaker 10: They were going very far?
00:36:34
Speaker 1: Yeah?
00:36:37
Speaker 10: And then they abused me. They gave me the finger and I gave them a quick yell, and then they started chasing me.
00:36:42
Speaker 9: Through the park.
00:36:44
Speaker 1: Seriously, how old would.
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Speaker 10: They have been, maybe in their late sixteen Yeah.
00:36:50
Speaker 8: Yeah, you see that this roon I'd called them home?
00:36:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, rightly so, Mark, and I can understand you being upset about it. Yeah, Look, this is an area that we need to get on top of quickly. I would say, because of the current fuel crisis, more and more people will be using e scooters and e bikes. They have to be under control. As the RAA has said, not enough people, very few people know the exact rules and regulations surrounding e bikes and e scooters and we need to have controls. They need to be registered. Everyone needs to wear a helmet. We hear too many stories of people on e scooters not wearing helmets, some horrific accidents. Luckily in this state there have been few serious accidents, but in Queensland there have been a number of deaths. In Western Australia as well. This is going to be a very serious situation if we don't get on top of it right now.
00:37:39
Speaker 9: Harry, good morning, great grame and I know what in your fault, But if you can buy gold by the barrel or what you're having.
00:37:48
Speaker 1: Can you imagine? Can you imagine how much a barrel of gold would cost if it's four and a half thousand dollars of bloody outs, grime and very rich man, Harry, wouldn't we aim?
00:38:03
Speaker 9: I'll tell you what that would have been. My cruise ship off the coast of all came in a couple of weeks back.
00:38:09
Speaker 7: I'll tell you now.
00:38:11
Speaker 1: We can but dream.
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Speaker 10: Yes, that's it.
00:38:14
Speaker 9: The grave. Look the sulfur content in diesel, Now what is it? You have to be a metallurgist or a chemical engineer or whatever I'm I'm not any of those. But I had this problem twenty years ago, right mileage on a diesel vehicle worked like a dog. Slayed my guts out, and bought the three pointed star diesel vehicle. Thought I've made it. It's where you buy your fuel from Graham.
00:38:45
Speaker 1: Really the standards very that much or did that much?
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Speaker 9: I can tell you this is this is Batchel. I lived it. I was buying the cheapest deesel I could find, and my mileage was dropping and dropping and dropping. I went back to and I won't mention any names, but I can tell you there's only two places in Australia, and if you do the research, there's only two fuel companies in Australia that actually meet the standard on additives. And one of those you could find one of them walking along the beach, and the other one you might want to have a point in one of their cubs. I'll just a few little cryptic clues there, but they're the only two. I would buy diesel from Gray.
00:39:35
Speaker 1: And there was a mat difference in the number of miles you could cover all kilometers.
00:39:39
Speaker 9: I bought this vehicle brand new, made in Stutgard, as it was stamped on the engine block, and I was buying the cheapest diesel I could find, and I was watching my mileage. I went from six hundred and seventy six pas of a full pen. I was lucky to strike to get the full fifty. Couldn't work it out. And then one morning I didn't have enough diesel to get to the cheap place, and I went to the more expensive place and my mileage went straight back to bring new mileage.
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Speaker 1: Wow, there's a lessons in that for all of us. Harry you've got to. I mean, I think most of us think that you the only difference is price. If you can get a cheap go where it's cheaper. But you're saying there can be a dramatic difference in the quality of what you're putting in your tank.
00:40:31
Speaker 9: There is a I lived at twenty years ago Grain and as far as my research of it, what I've been able to find is they're not lowering contents or whatever it's in unleaded that the lowering of contents the diesel apparently is unaffected.
00:40:50
Speaker 1: Oh okay, right the look.
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Speaker 9: Don't get me wrong, Gray, I'm just a qualified idiot, you know. Who am I? Who am I? I mean, I'm just dreaming of gold barrels, you know. But I lived at Graham twenty years ago. Feed into mine, not joking, without a word of a lie. I watched that mileage drop week after week after week, and I couldn't work it out. And it was only for the fact that I didn't have enough fuel to get to the cheap base.
00:41:19
Speaker 1: You have to fill top it up with the deer place. Look, Harry, that's that's a good lesson for us all there. Thanks very much for your call. We'll take a break for news back shortly.
00:41:28
Speaker 3: Five Double A Mornings with Graham.
00:41:30
Speaker 1: Goodings Well. Donald Trump says there will be no more missed a nice guy if Iran doesn't take the very fair and reasonable deal being often. Tensions in the Gulf have sharply escalated after the President claimed US forces seized Iranian flag vessel amid An, attempted hormones blockade breach. Iran says it will retaliate soon. Just what is happening to try to make some sense of it all, Strategic Analysis Australia Director Michael Schubridge Michael, good morning, thanks for being with.
00:41:56
Speaker 11: Us Morning Graham.
00:41:57
Speaker 12: Great to talk with Eric.
00:41:58
Speaker 1: So what is happening at the moment? Is this a major development?
00:42:02
Speaker 11: Yes, what we've got is escalation from both Iran and America. So over the weekend, after briefly opening the strait to a small number of ships, the Iranians closed it again and fired on two Indian flag vessels, and they said they were closing it because of the American blockade, which wasn't part of the original ceasefi ideal. And then after that the Americans have stopped and fired upon an Iranian ship, blowing a hole in its engine room apparently.
00:42:37
Speaker 1: So what constitutes a blockade under international law?
00:42:41
Speaker 11: Well, a blockade is pretty much just what it says. It's using military forces, predominantly a navy to stop an adversary shipping from either exiting its ports or entering other ports. And we're seeing the Americans talking about boarding Iranian ships on the high Sea.
00:43:03
Speaker 1: So what is happening now? Would you view that as a major escalation?
00:43:08
Speaker 2: Yes?
00:43:08
Speaker 11: I do, because both sides have now used force, so firing on Indian ships in the Iranian case and blowing a hole in the engine room of an Iranian ship in the American case, So that can't be called a ceasefire anymore. And the seasefire was kind of step one in allowing a far more difficult negotiation about far harder issues to start.
00:43:33
Speaker 1: The global oil supply is already in a parlor state. Has this made it even worse?
00:43:39
Speaker 11: Yes, because any idea that the energy pipeline was going to start flowing again has proven to be wrong. I think there was a lot of optimism when those first few tankers went through the Strait on the weekend on Saturday, but that was crushed by the events we've just been talking about.
00:43:59
Speaker 1: It would appear that Donald Trump is revisiting his earlier claims that they would attack around infrastructure, bridges' power plants. Is that the way you see.
00:44:09
Speaker 11: It, Yes, and you could say this is trump brinkmanship. Who knows, But he does seem to think that a bit more force will change Iranian behavior, and I think that is a large miscalculation. He doesn't seem to know that Iran endured eight years of war with Iraq and was losing it for a lot of that time, but fought it to a stalemate. So a few months and further bombardment doesn't seem likely to change their behavior.
00:44:43
Speaker 1: Irana said that it will retaliate soon. What retaliation form would you reckon that would take?
00:44:50
Speaker 11: Well? So they're now shown that it's not hypothetical that they can keep the straight closed by force, So that will continue. But if the Americans broaden use of force to attack civilian power stations and bridges widely across the country, then the Iranians have said that they will retaliate by doing that across the Gulf, and that will damage a lot more infrastructure. That deepens the energy crisis for a lot longer. After the war ever finishes.
00:45:23
Speaker 1: Would you expect China or Russia to react in some way, at at least diplomatically.
00:45:29
Speaker 11: Well, I think Russia's quietly trying to provide material support to the Iranians and things like military targeting. The Chinese look like they're doing the same. But the Chinese, I think, are able to withstand this energy shock, probably as well as anyone, because they invested in proper reserves, unlike countries like our own, And I think they're just quietly watching America weaken itself.
00:45:59
Speaker 1: You've touched on there. What are the implications for Austrata's future fuel security? By are these latest developments?
00:46:06
Speaker 11: It's worse because any idea that Asian refineries, the ones that the Prime Minister has been touring, will have assured supplies of oil to refine, that's looking shakier now. And some figures around oil tanker traffic through the malaccustrates, which is all the ships that feed the refineries that feed us, so that traffic is alarming lead down. So I think we've got growing energy problems stored up for us.
00:46:38
Speaker 1: Our police talks underway at the moment or planned.
00:46:41
Speaker 11: Well, the Americans say that Vice President Vance and Steve Witkoff, Trump's golf buddy, and Jared Kushner, his son in law, are still going to turn up in his Lamabad Monday night for Tuesday talks. But the Iranians are saying, well, they can't be any talks while the American lockade is in place, and certainly not if America decides to bomb broadly across Iran.
00:47:05
Speaker 1: It seems to be that there's a lot still do unfold in this Middle East war. Yes, would you expect the ceasefire to be extended.
00:47:16
Speaker 11: Not if the bombing starts. So, you know, hopefully Trump is realizing that actually de escalation is probably the path rather than this thing we heard out of his ambassador to the UN that is all about escalating to de escalate, which frankly is a nonsense idea here. But America will have to end its blockade of Iranian shipping and Iran will have to open the strait at least in some way. But if the bombing campaign starts, I can't see talks happening.
00:47:50
Speaker 1: It seems we're, you know, dealing with brinkmanship at the moment. And who was going to blink first?
00:47:56
Speaker 11: Yes, it's a bit like that scene from Was It Mad Max two, the two cars driving towards each other at high speed and seeing who's going to swerve off the road first?
00:48:06
Speaker 1: The idea Has it come down to that? Michael Shilridge, great to chat, Thanks for your time today. The latest on the horn moves straight. It's closed, and it's opened, and it's open again, and it's a blockade and well, at the moment we're just pawns in the game.
00:48:20
Speaker 3: Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
00:48:23
Speaker 1: We're here until midday. Eight double two to three double oh double ow is the numbered ring. If you see something happening out on the roads that you would like to share with the five double A audience, please do so. Eight double two three double O double ow. Well, we're talking earlier about the fuel changes and so forth, and the fact that you know Australia is in a crisis situation regarding fuel. There was a change in the amount of solfur allowed into our petrol, which prompted a call a Ross to give us a ring.
00:48:51
Speaker 2: Said to the mechanic, but said that's something wrong with the car. They said, no, it's assault for that putting in. It doesn't burn.
00:48:58
Speaker 13: As fast as your days.
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Speaker 2: So therefore therefore you're going to use it. So not only am I getting charged over three dollars later, I'm urging about four later more per one hundred kus, which is another what four twelve fifteen dollars?
00:49:15
Speaker 1: So you know, so we wanted some explanation. We went to drive dot com a you Director of content, James James, Good morning to you, Good morning. How are you? Yeah? Look well thanks. Does what Ross had to say make sense to you?
00:49:28
Speaker 9: Look?
00:49:28
Speaker 14: Yes and no. The thing is, the higher sulfur content fuel was what we had in market up until the end of last year.
00:49:36
Speaker 12: So this is the thing.
00:49:37
Speaker 14: It's not some new construct that the government has kind of mixed together to make things cheaper. It's basically reverting back to a fuel standard that essentially was in effect up until December last year. And they had supplies of this higher sulfur content that was going to be moved offshore because the new fuel standard that reduced the amount of sulfur had come into effect in January. Rather than move it off shore, they said, okay, well, just we'll relax that standard for a minute and we'll pop this back into circulation. The thing is is it is it is a higher solf content if you have a Euro six compliant engine. Now this is modern European cars in petrol and some diesels, but generally European diesels, because these are designed to run on lower solfur fuel. Now, running them on the higher sulfur content for a couple of months won't make any difference, but you may see a minor performance drop and a minor efficiency drop. But it really is only those Euro six diesels. If you've got a Euro six petrols, if you've got a highlux for example, with that two point eight liter four cylinder, and it won't make a difference. So if you're getting something wrong with your fuel consumption from filling up lately, there's generally going to be a slightly different problem. You might find that your diesel particulate filter needs a burnoff, and obviously on highlights that's now that was the case for a B class action and you now have an after an after effect burn switch in there. Most modern diesels will do that anyway, particularly if you're doing high mileage. But yeah, it really shouldn't affect It really shouldn't affect anything, and if it does, it's super modern European engines that run to the Euro six standard.
00:51:21
Speaker 1: We had a caller James earlier that that's or texta actually that said they went to their dealer, they bought a he Ondai and that were concerned that if they put in dirty fuel, which they classified as this you know, ultra low or ultra high super sulfur, it would it would avoid their warranty. Would that be wrong?
00:51:43
Speaker 9: No?
00:51:43
Speaker 14: No, And we actually contacted Toyota and a number of other brands when this came out, and basically they said no, no, the fuel was complied, like literally was the fuel you were buying up until December last year. So it's like it's called dirty fuel because it's dirtier for the environment because it has a high sulfur content, But we were running it up until December, so it's not like this is a new construct. The lower sulfur content is a better for tailpipe emissions basically, so it's an environmental consideration, not a vehicle consideration. But because Europe has had the Euro six standards, which is an emissions standard in place, those engines are designed to run on lower sulfur content fuel, which is what they have in Europe, which is why they rolled out that standard in Australia from the start of twenty twenty six, a Hyundai running on that fuel. If you fill up at a petrol station in Australia, regardless of what you know, it's being described as your car is covered by warranty. I've got a letter from Toyota that says as such, and I'm sure we can easily get one from from Hyande, o Ko or whoever that says as such, because the fuel is not it's not full of dirt, it's not poorly refined. It just simply has a higher sulfur content. And we had it in Australia as supply that was basically out in all the petrol stations. But when they enacted this Fuel Standards Act at the start of this year, the government was saying you can't put that into circulation, so it was going to be moved offshore. So it was literally the fuel that you were filling up with up until December last year.
00:53:16
Speaker 1: Let's hope that's reassured a lot of our listeners. Now, just before I let you go, James, we had another caller who said he bought about twenty or so years ago a Mercedes Benz diesel yep, and he got a certain leaders per one hundred kilometers, and it was always shopping around for the cheapest fuel. Then one day he couldn't he didn't have enough diesel left in the car. He had to fill up at a deer outlet, and he said his return of fuel economy improved dramatically. Would they're looking at and we're talking twenty years ago, would there have been a difference in the standard diesel available from service station to service station.
00:53:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, like some of this.
00:53:54
Speaker 14: So you see premium petrols, so we know you can get ninety one, ninety five and ninety eight. They're designed for nockraatea. So if your car says it needs ninety five, you don't need to put ninety eight in it. But what the fuel companies do is to add value to those premium fuels. They add there are cleaning additives in there that basically help the engine run a bit smoother, so you don't need it, but it doesn't hurt. So you do see that now with premium diesel. So you see that there are some brands will have just a regular diesel and they will have.
00:54:24
Speaker 12: A premium diesel.
00:54:25
Speaker 14: What that's got in it are some cleaning additives, so that will make it will clean off carbon deposits and other sort of things that form in the engine after years of use. So in theory, with the tank of the you know, the more spendy juice, it's putting a bit of a clean through the engine. It doesn't it's not a higher optane, it doesn't burn richer, it doesn't increase performance, but it may have cleaned carbon deposits that may increase your fuel efficiency. So that's the only real thing there. But again, if your car says nothing on its petrol tank, you can fill it up with ninety one. If it says ninety five, don't need to put ninety eight in, but you shouldn't put ninety one in. And with diesels, yeah, adding the top shelf diesel, it basically has a cleaning additive in there. So that's the only real thing that you'll get out of it.
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Speaker 1: Brilliant good only James, Thanks for your input, appreciated. Thank you. Drive dot com dot I used director of content James Ward, so hopefully that will reassure people about the fuel high GG. Can you get the Flinders UNI expert on nuclear on your show? I've heard him discuss nuclear energy for Australia before how South Australia can lead the way. He's amazing and has a lot of credibility. Yeah, happy to have a chat with anybody regarding nuclear but we know nuclear is a four letter word in Australia. It's illegal by an Act of Parliament for us to have nuclear in this country, although I don't know how that's going to be when we have the Orca Submarines nuclear powered submarines in and around Adelaide, in and around Australian ports high GG, it would be worth asking Julia Gillard what she thinks of the NDIS program she introduced, costing taxpayers a billion dollars a week. Sure it helps many, but is roarted by even more. Criminals are reaping the benefits. This could be Labour's robo death, hence the slow action on it. Thank you for that Ray, and on a lighter note, good on your stee for bringing this to my attention, GG. A US barrel of gold would be worth between ninety eight and one hundred million dollars. That came about because when I was reading out the stocks and the US oil per barrel and the gold that we mention where I normally meant say, you know, four five hundred and fifty three dollars US an ounce, I said a barrel. They're idea, just to have a barrel of gold. Would that solver a fee problems? Probably not mine, but maybe the nations. The fuel in this country comes out of the same boats. This boke is completely wrong. Now you're not referring to James Ward, but a call that we had earlier. I worked in the fuel industry. What he said is one hundred percent faults. To be fair, he was talking about twenty years ago when we had what was at eight refineries in Australia and they not all of them would be pumping out the same quality fuel. It would be fair to say eight double two to three double O double is the number to ring the seat of Darunga hit the headlines last week. It seems to all settled. We'll find out from Professor of Politics Clem McIntyre. Is this the end of the situation?
00:57:26
Speaker 3: Five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
00:57:31
Speaker 1: Twenty two eleven five double A, good morning. Thanks for joining us on this Monday, the twentieth day of April. Where is the year gone? Where is the where almost at the end of the fourth month of the year. Soon it will be in the middle of winter, soon will be looking forward to Christmas. Please well the dusters settle on the seat of Narunga or has it a new one Nation MP survived and missing votes debarkle in the most marginal seat in the state. More than eighty uncounted votes were discovered in the Narranga district, which you know didn't auger well with the State Electoral Commission. Professor of Politics, Clem McIntyre joins us, now claim, good morning to you, good morning now tell us, is this the end of it? Do you believe? Are we settled now? Or all votes in and all bets off? You'd have to hope.
00:58:20
Speaker 15: So in the seat of Narranga, which you just mentioned, of course, the original margin was very close, so finding eighty votes was enough to have made a difference if they'd virtually all gone for the Liberal Party, which of course they didn't. So even if there is an old bats lying somewhere still undiscovered, it's unlikely that there'll be enough votes in there to overturn any of the results that we've now had declared. So yes, I think we can coach the fingers crossed s it's the end of the matter.
00:58:47
Speaker 1: You don't see there being an appeal at all.
00:58:50
Speaker 15: No, well, it's not for me to say, but I can't see the base there'd be a basis for an appeal anywhere. You've got to demonstrate that the result would have gone the other way if everything had gone to the normal proceedings. And I think it would be very, very difficult for anyone to claim that there had been actions by the Electoral Commission which had the effect of depriving one of the candidates.
00:59:19
Speaker 1: Of the seat.
00:59:20
Speaker 15: So you know, even with the fact that some of the polling boots were delayed in opening and so on, you'd have to find enough voters prepared to sign a statutory declaration to say I was going to vote for this candidate, but I turned up and I could vote at eight in the morning, but I couldn't vote in the afternoon. Therefore my vote I was denied a chance to vote. And the chances of finding enough people in that situation are negligible, I think, so I wouldn't expect there'd be any challenges.
00:59:50
Speaker 1: It wasn't a good look for the essay Electoral Commission even on the day. They hardly covered themselves in glory, the problems with understaffing, people having to queue for hours, and then you know we've heard weeks later some workers are still to be paid.
01:00:05
Speaker 15: Yes, so right, it's not been the best election for the Electoral Commission. There's always a review into the performance of the Electoral Commission and the conduct of the election after every state election. There will be again this time. I think there'll be a few more questions for the Commission to be answering this time round. Doubtless they'll be able to explain why those problems were there. But as you say, not a particularly good look and they haven't covered themselves in glory. Now, having said all of that, I think we need to recognize that we're very lucky in Australia to have one of the best electoral systems in the world. We have a completely independent electoral Commission that politicians come interfere with. They don't get to say what the boundaries are. Politicians set the rules for the election, and then an independent commission runs the whole process. And yes, there were mistakes this time round, but anyone arguing that the integrity of Australian electoral system is under serious question because of those errors. I think is making far too strong a case, its way ahead of most in the world, even with a few mistakes allowed.
01:01:15
Speaker 1: For now, Klaim, I know you're out of the country at the moment. Have you seen the two polls that show support for Pauline Hanson slipping?
01:01:22
Speaker 15: Yes, I saw that this morning.
01:01:25
Speaker 1: Are you surprised, Yes, and no.
01:01:29
Speaker 15: I'm still surprised at the level of support for Pauline Hansen at one level because I don't think really what we've seen from one nation at the state level and at the federal level is really a plausible alternative government. Yet I haven't seen comprehensive policies developed and put to the Australian people. What I've seen is evidence of a lot of Australian voters who are very unhappy with the way things are at the moment and are frustrated that it would seem neither of the major political parties that we've been so used to for so long seemed to have the policies in place to resolve some of those problems. So I still think that one nation, the support for one nation, is the expressions of an expression of grievance or disaffection with the major parties.
01:02:18
Speaker 4: And when.
01:02:21
Speaker 15: It comes to actually casting a vote for an alternative government, I suspect and one nation's policies are put under a bit more scrutiny, then I think that we'll see some falling away of that vote. So I don't think anyone in South Australia for a moment thought that one Nation were going to win the election. We all knew that Labor under Peter Melanauskis was set for a huge win, and so in the sense, I think some voters just thought, well, I'll send a message by voting for one nation. If they were a plausible alternative government, then I think voters would be thinking, that's just a bit more.
01:02:57
Speaker 1: Carefully about their vote. Now, it might be wrong.
01:03:00
Speaker 15: In what are we two years out from the next federal or just over two years from the next federal election. Things could go in any direction at the moment, with international affairs as they are, that can have huge repercussions on the Australian economy, cost of living and so on, and voters may well decide it's time for a radical change.
01:03:21
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't want to.
01:03:22
Speaker 15: Bet my life on it yet, but I still think that I need to see a lot more from one nation to de demonstrate that they're a plausible alternative government.
01:03:32
Speaker 1: What about the polling on Angus Taylor, He's only a few months into the job. Would that be reassuring the Liberal Party?
01:03:39
Speaker 15: Yes, I think so. It was clear that Susan Lee was not exciting the voters. She had a lot of internal problems that were evident to most of us watching politics. Angus Taylor has come in with I think, a fresh voice. We normally see when there's a change of leader that there is a bit of renewed interest. People pay a bit more attention perhaps to what the new leader is saying, in contrast to the frustrations they may have had with the previous ones. So I'm not surprised that there's been a bit of a bounce for Angus Taylor. And I think also he is probably articulating some of the concerns of those that were falling away from a Liberal party in previous polls. Perhaps he's articulating their concerns just a bit more clearly, and perhaps he's bringing a few more voters back to the Liberal parties or consequence. But a long way to go before the next federal election.
01:04:38
Speaker 1: And the figures regarding the Prime minister. In times of turbulence and war, usually, you know, people sort of focus more back on the government. What can the government take out of the polling?
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Speaker 15: Well, I think the government would be happier if the polls were stronger, notwithstanding all of the circumstances, and I think that they just have to stick with the core principles that they've been trying to govern by. That they're in a sense they're at the hostage of fortune with events completely outside the government's control. If if there's serious problems with a supply of fuel and jet fuel and things like that continue, then the government's going to be facing serious problems no matter what its policies are. So not all of it is in the in the control of a Labor party, but I think that they still hold a reasonably commanding lead over both of the Coalition and One Nation, So you know, there's comfort for Labor in that the fact that the opposition is divided.
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Speaker 1: Professor, thanks so much for your time today. That's the professor of Politics, Clem McIntyre. On the situation, the ranger, the polling of One Nation, What are your thoughts on it were you are confirmed or solid one nation supporter, if you relaxed that viewpoint or you're more entrenched or whatever. It's interesting that the feedback, and we've got quite a lot on the text line or trying to get to those texts as the morning progresses. But I'd like to know your thoughts. Eight double two to three double oh is the number I heard the story. This is from the text line. All fuels are the same twenty years ago. Your guest was right, it's who puts in quality additives, hence higher consumer cost and only two companies meet the required standard regarding nuclear They have nuclear medicine and hospitals. Wonder where they store it before and after use? Well, I think you'll find that hospitals store their nuclear waste on the premises. So we have nuclear waste stored all around Australia. Is it Lucas Heights and Sydney where they have a small nuclear reactor, But to all hospitals when in their treatment need nuclear radium or whatever is I'm not quite sure what it is, but they have nuclear waste. So we do already in this country have a nuclear waste, but it is stored in our cities I think we'd be all more comfortable if it was stored away from the cities and we had a nuclear waste dump somewhere. That's an argument that we might take up again at some stage, because this state and Australia could make a lot of money out of becoming the world's nuclear waste dump. We have very stable topography. We have some of the oldest stable land in the world. We could bear it way out in the middle of nowhere where it would be safe and you know, for thousands of years, and we could make a lot of money out of it. Could I Graham further cryptic clues on only two fuel companies I buy diesel from. Both are linked to Western European royalty stopped teasing us high gig I saw cris Bow and an Arts very recently that they had just on our higher soft of content diesel because of the fuel shortage, not that it's been happening all this year, as your guests suggested. Thank you for that, Ziggie. Well it was March, wasn't it that the government relaxed that, And I mean it's not a critical change. Let's face it. The fact is that this fuel with the higher sulfur we were using up until what December of last year. And it's not about the way cars run, it's more about the environment. And they relax that ruling because of the fuel crisis. And I think the relaxing of the ruling is due to end in the end of May, so it'll be interesting to see if it is extended after that time. Eight double two three double O double oh is the number to ring back shortly.
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Speaker 3: Five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Two eleven five double A on this very pleasant Well, it's overcast, but it's going to be pretty warm twenty four degrees and then it's actually warm twenty eight degrees for much of the rest of the week. And we're talking about fuel and fuel storage. We last week talked about Western Australia moving to store more fuel because they think they need a particularly for the rural sector. Well, that sentiment has been echoed by the state opposition. This is what Ben Hood had to say on five double A Breakfast this morning speaking with David and Will.
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Speaker 16: The fact that we South Australia has no strategic fuel reserve, we've got long supply chains and that ultimately lays is vulnerable so we're proposing a sensible LAYD fuel resilience framework. Now does that mean, well, that's practical support for farmers to build on site storage, so they've got the buffer there on site reserves for hospitals and sa water because that's widely important as well. But importantly, a dedicated fuel security Coordinator which would sit within the part of the Department of Energy and Mining, which would look at where our fuel is going, have real time supply chain data reporting from importers and terminals, wholesales and distributors, and then on top of that modest rotating buffer in existing private terminals.
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Speaker 1: That was Ben Hood onle Breakfast this morning. Do you think we should have a separate storage facility in Australia in South Australia. I mean there is some storage in Australia generally, but it looks like the States realizing there is an inadequacy in this area going it alone. Should we join them? I'd like to know your thoughts on an eight double two to three double o double the number. Well, Australia is heading for a population of forty million people by twenty sixty five. That's another forty million more in just forty years. But the Planning Institute of Australia says, well, there's no national plan to manage it. Emma Riley is the Planning Institute of Australia's national president. She joins us now, Emma, good morning to you.
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Speaker 17: Good morning Graham.
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Speaker 1: Quite remarkable. I'm a forty million by twenty sixty five. I think a lot of people have thought our population is growing fast. But that's a that's a pretty scary figure.
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Speaker 17: It is. It's just the figures that are put out there with populations forecasts that were working too.
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Speaker 1: Now the concern is then the Planning Institute of Australia is making the point that it's all well and good to be heading towards a population like that, but what's the plan?
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Speaker 17: Yeah, well, I mean that's really is our point is that in Australia we kind of split responsibilities. The Commonwealth government deals with migration, major infrastructure funding, other support mechanisms, while state and local government are kind of managing planning and service delivery. And say, we're advocating for a national plan for Australia's growth to bring decisions that are currently made separately together. That includes housing, infrastructure and economic policy, which all shape where people live, and they're currently not well aligned.
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Speaker 1: What you see is the major challenges. I think what we.
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Speaker 17: See is that the decisions made are not connected to each other, and people experience not planning well for growth in negative ways, so they feel it in longer commutes, higher housing costs, infrastructure arriving too late. Planning well shows up as more homes in the right places, better access to jobs and services, and a national plan, from our perspective, will provide a long term framework, so decisions are made with a shared understanding of where growth is happening and what's needed to support it.
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Speaker 1: Your report suggests that most of this growth will happen on the two major centers of Sydney and Melbourne.
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Speaker 17: Well, look at the moment, that is what's happening. But that's not plan I mean, that's not particularly plan growth. And what we're suggesting is doing a national plan is an opportunity to look at different scenarios about how growth can occur across Australia, rather than each stage and territory just responding to what comes to them.
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Speaker 1: You've suggested that unplanned growth can make natural disasters more costly. How can that come about?
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Speaker 18: Well, the so planning in part is about making sure that we're I suppose building homes and creanning infrastructure in places that are not at long term risk.
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Speaker 17: Decisions today that where we live, where we have infrastructure really locking risks for decades. A national plan will help avoiding placing new homes and infrastructuring new high in high risk locations and reduce long term costumes disaster insurance and recovery. It's ultimately about planning for resilience as well as growth.
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Speaker 1: Should there be more of a plan to decentralized I mean you mentioned of course you know the major growth areas of Sydney and Melbourne will continue to attract people, but should the growth be channeled into two smaller regional centers.
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Speaker 17: So we don't have a particular opinion on whether one who is preferable or not. I suppose doing a national plan is a way in which to test the scenarios and ensure that as we're enabling choice and ensuring that we're ready to go with infrastructure and support as we grow.
01:14:28
Speaker 1: Some people think that the problem is principally the speed of our population growth, and what would your response be.
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Speaker 9: Look, Australia will grow no matter what.
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Speaker 17: It's it isn't just about migration. Obviously. The reality is that will grow over time and the question isn't for us about how big the population is. It's actually about how well we manage growth and growth can bring real benefits to communities when it's properly planned. And yeah, this is really about addressing the current issue that we're not well aligned between housing, infrastructure and jobs. Ultimately, Australia will continue to grow. The numbers are one thing, but what we're saying is we need a national plan to grow well.
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Speaker 1: Emma, thank you so much for your time today. It's good to chat Emma Riley, Planning Institute of Australia National President. What are your thoughts, folks on the continuing growth of Australia. They are alarming figures, aren't they. The population of over forty million by twenty sixty five. And I mean the suggestion is at the moment we can't keep up with the growth the way it is. The housing is falling behind by the day, and the government seems loath to cut back the population migration numbers by any substantial number. And if we get to forty million people, where are they going to live. How big will Sydney and Melbourne get? Will the overflow come to places like Adelaide? Do we have the infrastructure certainly the straining public service or public transport wise, straining housing wise? Will we have enough water? Will we have enough power? As Emma suggested, there is no plan. Remarkable when you think about it, a country of this size looking towards the future having no plan for the future. Dave, good morning.
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Speaker 19: Go in your circle. Have you heard of anybody who applied for postal boats not receiving them?
01:16:42
Speaker 9: No?
01:16:43
Speaker 1: I haven't, No, have you.
01:16:46
Speaker 9: I have.
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Speaker 19: On our lad who was at Warga and he imployed via the email and whatnot, and he never received his. And I've got a mate who has clearly strong political convictions.
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Speaker 6: He doesn't go to the electoral side, ends up argument, and he's applied for postals and he's normally gone.
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Speaker 19: And he didn't receive one this year. So I just wonder whether there's something going on as well.
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Speaker 1: Well. I'll tell you what it would be. Incompetence that would be the reason. What it's the old theory. You know, if it's a conspiracy or incompetence, someone will come up and tell me the saying, you know, it always lean towards the incompetence, and I think which is not acceptable. I'm not saying it's acceptable, but I think, Look, Dave, anyone that's been placed in the situation needs to lodge a formal complaint with the Electoral Commission.
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Speaker 19: I'm sort of just hanging back now to see whether I get a form.
01:17:53
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well that's the point too, isn't it.
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Speaker 19: And that's the other thing that would be.
01:17:57
Speaker 1: The ultimate insult, isn't it. You've applied for a postal vote, you never get it, and then they find you for not voting.
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Speaker 19: That's right. And I've got the pips up with them anyway, because I've got a forty p year old play I'm sixty six telling me how to bloody vote. I've been vote longer than me. He's been alive. That is me right off too.
01:18:19
Speaker 12: I can understand just the grumpy.
01:18:21
Speaker 1: Al far Well, you're allowed to be grumpy, Dave, but you make some good points. There's anyone else out there been in the position where you applied for a postal vote, mean you're on holidays in the state, on business or whatever. It never arrived. And as as Dave suggested, how would you feel you tried to get a postal vote, never turned up, and then they're going to hit you with a fine for not voting. That's another black mark against the Electoral Commission. But anyone who's placed in that situation, firstly, give us a call, tell us about it. Secondly, you must lodge a complaint, a formal complaint with the Electoral Commission about it, or at least go to your local member and say this is the situation, because that is totally unacceptable. And the electoral Commission that normally does a wonderful job. There's a litany of problems and issues that have happened around this election. Phil says, one of my sons applied for a postal vote the past two elections. One arrived after the election, the other never arrived. That is not good. That is not good. Andrew says, we absolutely need our own fuel back up with current world events. You reckon. Peter malanaskus would be in front of the camera saying just that, but he isn't even talking about it. Yeah, look, I'm surprised. I would have thought this state, being as progressive as it is, would have been on the front foot. But We've heard that Western Australia is definitely making the move to store its own fuel supplies. Tasmania is doing the same. Hopefully we will fall into line because the federal government seems loath to increase our stocks of fuel. I mean, they fly in the face of the IA who says, have ninety days fuel supply? We have what thirty thirty something days supply? The federal go I thinks that's enough.
01:20:01
Speaker 3: Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
01:20:05
Speaker 1: Seven past eleven five Double A the final hour of the show. Is still time for you to take part on eight double two to three double. Oh Well, here's an alarming statistic. Jen z is the first generation in modern history to score lower than their parents in attention, memory, reading, and problem solving. What is it done to well? Heavy screen time in schools and daily life apparently is fueling a global cognitive decline and that reverses decades of progress. Just how serious is it? What can we do about it? Joining us now is Professor Dot Doomwe, who is the Adelaide University Professor of Behavioral Epidemiology. Professor Good morning, thanks for being with us today.
01:20:48
Speaker 20: Morning Graham, and good morning to your listeners.
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Speaker 1: Is that right? Are we going backwards? Our young people struggling and it's largely due to the screen.
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Speaker 21: Well, that's very interesting statistic. I actually hadn't heard that one. That does sound extremely alarming. I'm guessing the way that cognition and all that has been measured is probably changing over time.
01:21:15
Speaker 20: And perhaps it may not be that.
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Speaker 21: Alarming, if you know, we're just children are just learning in different ways nowadays, and maybe they're learning things that aren't measured on some of those scales. But surely, yes, there are concerns about the reliance on digital technology and just the amount of time that gets spent on devices, and a lot of that time isn't actually beneficial for cognition.
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Speaker 20: It is just wasting time. Really.
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Speaker 1: I mean they're very seductive, these devices, the screens and so forth. I mean there's color and movement, things happening, way more exciting than looking at a textbook.
01:21:55
Speaker 21: Yeah, that's true, and there are you know, there are ways that we can use Who's online textbooks and online learning to sort of shortcut what we may have in the past have used for learning. So you know, when you're reading about a topic in a textbook, you can't just do the control find to find the bit that you need to answer a question, right, you need to engage with the whole text, and it takes a longer time to read.
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Speaker 20: You can't skim it as well.
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Speaker 21: So I think the online option, although it can be saving a lot of time, might encourage a more superficial engagement with the material where you can just search for the bits.
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Speaker 20: You need without understanding the whole thing.
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Speaker 1: The feeling, you know, is not I don't know if it's a universal but many developed countries including Sweden, Finland, Denmark and others have observed these noted clients and are taking action. In fact, Sweden is spending one hundred million euros I think it is for printed textbooks. It's sort of reversing the trend, that's right.
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Speaker 21: Yeah, they're wanting every student to have access to a textbook for every subject, which is yeah, that that's actually really interesting, sort of going back to how it used to be. But also, you know, with screens and having these resources, they're actually quite expensive and not all students in all areas can equally access digital technology, so there is a bit of an equity of access issue, and over relying on technology can sort of widen those gaps.
01:23:37
Speaker 20: So I think, yeah, it could be a really positive.
01:23:40
Speaker 1: I guess it's striking the right balance, isn't it, because you know, we can't reverse history. You can't sort of say, all right, you know iPads and know all digital screen that's out the window where we just go back to textbooks, because that's not what life is about. Is it about finding the right balance.
01:23:56
Speaker 20: I think you've hit the nail on the head there. There must be a.
01:23:59
Speaker 21: Balance because our students need to be digitally aware that in this day and age, for the careers that they'll go into, they need to know how to use technology, but they also need those foundational skills of reading and writing, you know, which there is evidence that these develop better through actually physically writing with a pen, you know, and a pencil, so you get that sort of motor engagement as well as just engaging your brain by you know, by reading or typing or using an iPad. So there are those foundational learning things that are you know, the early primary where perhaps you need to balance a bit more on the side of the non digital methods, but then definitely as they go through into the higher the later primary and the secondary school, the understanding how to use digital technology and using those tools to their advantage is a very important aspect of what they need to learn.
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Speaker 1: South Australia made a very progressive move for a year or so back on limiting the amount of screen time or particularly you know, people kids taking smartphones in the classroom, even you know, in the playground and so forth. Do you reckon that was a good idea.
01:25:18
Speaker 21: Yeah, I've got children at school who were in that transition period before and after.
01:25:24
Speaker 1: And how did they respond?
01:25:26
Speaker 20: Yeah, they initially.
01:25:28
Speaker 21: There was a lot of unhappiness, but I think it was more about how we you know, what is something happens and we need to contact a parent about getting home after school, catching the bars, that kind of thing. And then the school solved that by letting them bring their phones and then they hold them during the day and back at the end of the day. So I think once all that kind of stuff was sorted out, the kids, Yeah, my.
01:25:53
Speaker 20: Kids are fine not using their phones during the day.
01:25:56
Speaker 21: They were worried about because they used them as calculators in math, you know, but you know, the schools were able to work around all that, and I think, yeah, now at lunch time they'll play cards, they'll go to the library. Yeah, they just seem to engage more.
01:26:11
Speaker 1: So as a parent, you've seen positive outcomes, Yes.
01:26:14
Speaker 9: I have.
01:26:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, professor, thanks so much of your time. Great to have a chat. Sweden pivoting away from technology. They believe because of cognitive development as being arrested effectively, I mean a scary terms. But jen Z the first generation in modern history to score lower than their parents in attention, memory, reading, and problem solving. As a parent, have you noticed the same thing we were speaking then with Adelaide Unique, professor of behavioral epidemiology, Professor Dot Doomwe It's scary, isn't, Because I think as a parent you always think, you know your kids are smarter than you, and that's the way it's always been. I think my parents thought that I was smarter than them. I hadn't feeled totally. But I mean that's just the progression, and you would expect that teaching methods improve. But the fact that jen Z is failing cognitively compared to earlier generations, and because they are a generation that has only been brought up in the non textbook world. Effectively, let's say, called Dennis, good morning.
01:27:18
Speaker 22: You get it?
01:27:19
Speaker 9: How are you going good?
01:27:19
Speaker 1: Thanks mate?
01:27:21
Speaker 22: Yeah, I was just bringing in reference to the postal vote.
01:27:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure.
01:27:26
Speaker 5: My partner and I were going away on the fourteenth.
01:27:28
Speaker 22: We gave plenty of time where we had to email through and got a postal vote. But the postal boat came on the seventeenth. So we were already away when the postal boat came. So I don't know whether we'll get a fine or not, but you know we couldn't vote.
01:27:43
Speaker 1: No, you've got a pretty fair reason for not getting a fine. I mean, you know you couldn't vote.
01:27:49
Speaker 19: Yeah, that's exactly it.
01:27:50
Speaker 7: I mean.
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Speaker 22: And we told him we were going away in the fourteenth we need this gear information before and things like that, and from there it just became we got it on the even said on the envelope, received on the sevent eighth, so we received it three days after we went away.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, not good enough, Dennis, thankful letting us know that, and let the Electoral Commission know it has not been their finest star of this election. I'm just trying to think. In the past, I think things have gone seamlessly, flawlessly, but this election, for what happened to Ranga, which is the high or low point of the whole lot. The fact that on polling day there were people that are the polling stations that were not well versed in what they had to do. There were delays, people having to wait way longer than they expected. The fact that the people who worked on the polling stations and as volunteers or not volunteers, they were paid for it, but they're waiting weeks later still to get paid. Dave, you want to talk about the postal situation too, Yeah, good morning Graham.
01:28:51
Speaker 13: My dad was in the Calvary Hospital during the election and they told him that they would be around to his bed too getting his vote. Yeah, after the vote has all finished. He said, what's going on and they said, oh, you're supposed to every supposed to get down to the foyer. And he was bedridden.
01:29:15
Speaker 12: So that's crazy.
01:29:19
Speaker 1: Certainly not good enough, Dave, thanks for sharing your story. I think all this has to get back to the Electoral Commission because it's not good enough. I mean, it's so important and we it's compulsory voting in Australia, and we pride ourselves in the fact that we have compulsory voting, and yet the Electoral Commission make it so difficult. If it's got to be compulsory voting, they've got to make it so that everyone who wants to vote can vote when you're away on the holidays, considering going away out of your electorate, there has to be a way that you can get your vote fully and fairly. Gg. Isn't it telling that the individual states are looking to secure their own futures in relation to fuel when this is a federal government issue that speaks volumes about our PM and the lack of confidence in him. Darren, I think you've summed it up perfectly. That is dead right. Why should each individual state be going on its own and that's going to create issues on its own. I would think when there should be a uniform national approach for national storage. I mean, how does that fit into the IEA's plan that the government has to have ninety days storage. Well, we fly in the face of that and only have thirty or thirty five day storage. But then the government can say, oh, well, some of the states have got a bit of fuel stored away too. I mean it is an ad hoc unsatisfactory arrangement. Dan says, I was reading online and saw that some people have got their postal vote only just last week through the post. So all these people get fines due to others in competence. Well, no, you've got a logical reason, Dan, if you did not get the postal vote form, you will not be charged. But I mean if they send out a fine for you, you've got right to be very very peeved. We'll take a break back shortly.
01:31:01
Speaker 3: Five Double A Mornings with gram Goodings.
01:31:06
Speaker 1: Twenty two past eleven, five Double A this Monday morning. We don't want to be like Sydney or Melbourne. We are the driest continent. They don't think it's disgusting from the text line, Yeah, some thoughts coming through strongly on the fact about the prediction that we'll have a population of forty million in Australia by the year twenty sixty five and there is no plan. There is absolutely no overall plan for the growth of Australia. And I was just doing some sums on the amount of water that Australia will need and where is our extra water coming from. Pray tell we don't build any more dams. You can't count de cell plants because they're there for an emergency. They're there for backup, and if we do have to build more de cell plants, what's that going to cost? And the cost of desalinated water is very very expensive, extremely expensive. So all of a sudden, I've got a population of forty million people. Yeah, lots of things to be considered. There is no national plan. We will certainly pursue that matter. If you have some thoughts on it, I'd like to hit them eight double two to three double is the number. Well. On a more positive note, new blood donation rules have come into force, expanding eligibility for gay and bisexual men. It started from today. Joining us now is Life Blood Australia Pride Chair Josh Smith. Josh, good morning to.
01:32:28
Speaker 23: You, good morning, thank you so much for having me. It's such an exciting day for us.
01:32:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, look tell us about it. I mean blood is always in demand, but up until now, so many people have been excluded absolutely.
01:32:40
Speaker 23: So from today we are change our eligibility criteria and now we're going to be asking everyone the same questions about their sexual activity, which means that a lot of gay and bisexual men and trans people who are previously unable to donate can now come in roll up their sleeves and give a whole blood donation. And that's in addition to our Plasma pathway which launched last year in July, allowing plasma donation and with almost no restrictions around sexual activity at all.
01:33:03
Speaker 1: Were these restrictions I think they were introduced around the time of AIDS, weren't they.
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Speaker 12: That's correct.
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Speaker 23: Yeah, So these restrictions were introduced as a response to the AIDS pandemic in Australia and thankfully, over time, transmission amongst the population has reduced to a point where we're able to make these changes in a safe way and invite more people to come and donate to ultimately support Australia's blood supply and all those people relying on us every day.
01:33:27
Speaker 1: Just opening up to so many more people to be able to give blood. And let's face it, lifeblood is always calling out for more donors. Just how much is that going to ease the pressure?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 23: Look, we're expecting from the eligibility changes today to see an extra twenty thousand donations over the next twelve months. And when you think about the fact that one donation can impact three lives, that really has a massive effect. It can be sixty thousand people that have been helped by those twenty thousand donations not to mention the ongoing effects from that into the future.
01:33:58
Speaker 1: And it must be so reassuring that you know that stigma has been removed.
01:34:03
Speaker 12: Absolutely.
01:34:03
Speaker 23: Look, that's something that's really important to us at Lifeblood as we move through this change.
01:34:07
Speaker 12: This change reflects our organizational values.
01:34:09
Speaker 23: So it's a really important thing to us that we can repair that relationship with queer community in a meaningful way and show everyone that they're welcome and safe to save lives.
01:34:18
Speaker 1: Now, donor centers, did you say how many donations and we need on a weekly basis.
01:34:23
Speaker 23: Look, we need thirty five thousand donations every week to keep up with demand across Australia's healthcare network and that's including plasma which is.
01:34:30
Speaker 12: In demand more than ever these days as well.
01:34:32
Speaker 1: And if anyone wants to give blood or find out more, what should they do?
01:34:35
Speaker 23: Oh, they should jump on our website lifeblood dot com dot au or give us a call on thirteen fourteen ninety five. Book an appointment, make sure you're eligible, check the travel and medications as well, and then come in, roll up your sleeve and help someone.
01:34:48
Speaker 12: That's the most beautiful thing about it.
01:34:50
Speaker 23: You're going to help a stranger that you'll never meet, but they'll be grateful to you forever.
01:34:53
Speaker 1: Good on your Joshua, great to chat life Blood Austrata Pride chair Josh Smith on the relaxing of rules that allow were gay and bisexual men to be able to donate blood and that started from today. Eight double two to three double double is the number to ring lines are free if you want to call up right now. Good morning, Graham. Forty million extra in Australia population. The only way we are going to feed these type of people in our community is that the Bradford scheme bringing water across Queensland into central Australia. And we would not have any choice to go and use nuclear power plants in Australia because it will be the only way to do it. PS. Have a great week, including your producer in the background, Have a great day and better tomorrow. Thank you very much for that, Paul. Yeah, we're not talking an extra forty million people, a total of forty million people. You mentioned the Bradford scheme. Yeah, we've talked about that in the past and there was a new Bradford scheme It was all about bringing because in this country, you know, the bottom half of the country is dry, dry, dry, perennially in a state of drought. In the northern half of the country. We have so much rain, so much downfall, so much water, and most of it there's wasted, most of it floods out to sea. If it could be diverted south, and that was the Bradford plan, but it was costed. It was found out to be too expensive. But what is too expensive? As I've said in the past, if this was China, they would just do it. They would just do it now. Obviously they can. They don't have to win elections. Their government doesn't have to win an election. They can just say we are doing it. We're doing it. But you know, seeing we have so much water in this country, if half of it could be diverted south, it will be so much benefit to the country and the fear that we get to forty million population. Where is the water coming from. I'll do some sum short in and let you know just how much water we need. Andrew says, I just wanted a change of opposition and saw one nation as being the best option. Harry says, I heard the story all fuels are the same twenty years ago. Your guess was right. Who puts in the quality additives hence a higher consumer cost. Only two companies meet the required standard eight double two to three double double is the number. Labor don't care, Graham. All these people have been paid for by labor into their electorates for votes, buying votes straight from the US Democrats and UK labor playbooks. We can see it all over the net work or all over the net what they've done. Labor are traders to our country, Ben says, Will their blood be tested? Graham? Yes, all blood is tested, There's no question about that. Australa Post. This is regarding voting and people not getting their postal votes. Australia Post is part of the problem with election materials being posted and delivered on time. Yes, that's right, but we have to find a way around it. If postal votes are to be available and voting is to be compulsory, the Australian Electric Commission, the South Australia and Electric Commission will have to find a way to get the votes out there, won't they.
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Speaker 3: Five double A Mornings with Graham, Goodings, good.
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Speaker 1: Morning you, Thanks for tuning in at twenty eight to twelve. A little bit later on, we'll have a chat with Stacy Lee what she's got on a program this afternoon. I'm going to talk to you about a book now. It's called Touching the Sky by Deborah Lourie. And this takes me back to the era of the fifties young boys when they're asked what do you want to be? When you're grabbing and say, I want to be a soldier. I want to be a fireman, I believe, a butcher, or a doctor. For girls, what do you want to be, Oh, I want to be a nurse, or a shop assistant or an airline hostess. This is an era when Deborah Laurie grew up, and the story of a book, Touching the Sky is how she became a pilot. Deborah, good morning to you.
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Speaker 24: Good morning Graham.
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Speaker 1: How difficult was it when you first said I'm going to fly a plane. I want to be a pilot.
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Speaker 24: Well, it wasn't all that difficult until I wanted to become an airline pilot. And in those days there were no women airline pilots. And I was told in no uncertain terms that I was ahead of my time. And just give up on that idea altogether.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, what were they sort of saying that, you know, because you're a woman, you just can't do the job.
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Speaker 24: They Well, later on in court there was claims made that women weren't strong enough, that they would panic at certain times the month, that they couldn't handle emergencies, a whole range of arguments, including that they would run off and have several children and be very cost the company a lot of money.
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Speaker 1: In that respect, you mentioned that aspect of you know, you wouldn't have the strength. I don't know what sense you mean that. And but I remember talking to someone, and this is going back quite a few years, and someone said to me, you couldn't have a woman flying a plane. I mean, how could you get a seven four seven into the sky? And I said, at the time, I don't know. There's too many men that could lift the seven four seven into the sky. It's not about physical strength, no.
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Speaker 24: No, it's not. In the older model airplanes, there was a thing when the hydraulics failed, you might need a little bit of extra grunt, but it was nothing that you know, a fit woman couldn't handle. Anyway. I think there was one thing said to me one time, which really sort of explained how they were thinking. And they just said that flying those big jets was a discipline that only men could understand.
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Speaker 1: It's hard to believe in this day and age, isn't it. I mean that you had to take a company to court to get what you wanted.
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Speaker 24: Yes, it is, but that's the way it was back then.
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Speaker 1: So was that a long and involved process? Was it? With Handset? Your battle?
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Speaker 3: Ah?
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Speaker 24: Yes, with Ansett Airlines. That battle went for over a year and ended up in the High Court of Australia.
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Speaker 1: So how did the High Court finally rule in your favor?
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Speaker 24: The High Court was presided over by six judges and they ruled in four to two in my favor. And that meant the Equal Opportunity Board the law. The orders that the Equal Opportunity Board had passed down were now I had to be upheld. And one of those was that I was to be employed on the next pilot training intake with Antset.
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Speaker 1: So when you got to fly with Antsets, how were you considered by your peers? Did they accept you?
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Speaker 24: When I started flying? There? You go into a ground school for several weeks and all of the ground instructors were very supportive of me, and later on the younger pilots were very supportive, and as were the cabin crew. It was just the older ones which who were not so friendly towards me. Let's put it that way.
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Speaker 1: The book has got many humorous moments, at times quite shocking moments. Would you you like to share one of the stories might be one of the more humorous incidents that occurred and in your time as a pilot, Uh.
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Speaker 24: One of the more one of the more humorous ones. You mean in terms of being male chauvinistic behavior. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well one was I was flying from Sydney and Melbourne to Perth, sorry, and we didn't have water bottles in the flight deck in those days, and I was thinking maybe the crew are a little bit thirsty, so that I would ask for the cabin crew to bring some water to the flight deck. The captain insisted that he was didn't need any water, that he was fine, and I reached up to push the cabin attendant call button, and to which he took. He was disgusted by this, that I should do this without his permission, and he told me and no uncertain terms, that I was to ask permission before I touched anything like that, which is quite ridiculous.
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Speaker 1: Do you think that was just because you were a woman?
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Speaker 11: Oh?
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Speaker 24: Absolutely, yes, yeah, yeah. He didn't know how to handle women at all. He was a single guy, you know, and I don't think he'd ever been married, so I don't know that he was all that good with women. He certainly wasn't good with one of them flying in his flight deck. I can tell you.
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Speaker 1: You're obviously a groundbreaker. But how long was it before the male pilot just came to accept you as another pilot and not worry about what sex you were.
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Speaker 24: It probably took about four years because I can sort of identify that point because every year, the pilots and flight engineers had an annual dinner to honor the retirees for that year, and it was a strictly male only event. And after I've been in the company for four years, I actually received an invitation because they considered me to be one of them. That's a marker.
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Speaker 1: Yes, do you see yourself as a trailblazer and a groundbreaker because they're obviously now way more female pilots working for airlines?
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Speaker 24: Yeah, well there are, and that's how I'm referred to as I never saw myself like that when I was at the time, but that's how I'm referred to these days. So, yeah, a lot of women have followed in my footsteps, which is fantastic.
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Speaker 1: What's your favorite jet to fly?
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Speaker 24: I'd have there's a couple, but nostalgic nostalgic wise, I'd say the Boeing seven to seven. Yeah, and the other favorite was the Airbus A three thirty.
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Speaker 1: Right in the time that you've flown, you've would have seen dramatic changes in the quality and standard of aircraft.
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Speaker 24: Oh yes, yes, yeah, a lot of changes in many, many things, and I sort of allude to some of those throughout the book. But yeah, there's a lot been changes in technology, but also other changes. When I first started, we didn't have any male cabin crew, for example, and also there were no females on the air traffic control frequencies. That's all changed now. We even have women refueling aircraft and all sorts of things and fixing them doing everything.
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Speaker 1: You're now recognized as the world's longest flying female airline pilot. What keeps your passion up and what keeps you flying?
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Speaker 24: Just just being able to get airborne and you escape the earth so to speak, and have that little bit of freedom for a little while. It's just really magical.
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Speaker 1: I believe you've been inducted into the Australian Aviation Hall of Fame. That must make you feel pretty proud.
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Speaker 24: Yes, that's I'm very proud of that. Yeah, sitting there in with surregulal lansets yea, at least where our photos aren't next to each other. So that's okay.
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Speaker 1: It's a very interesting, fascinating, humorous and enlightening book. What would you expect or what would you want people to take out of the book?
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Speaker 6: Oh?
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Speaker 24: I think my son's who my son who wrote the forward. He actually describes it really well. I think if anyone's thinking that they something's beyond their reach or they can't achieve something, that's probably an inspirational book for that type of thing. But there's many there's probably many many things that people can take out of it. But I think Tom's forward really does describe the book best of all.
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Speaker 1: Finally, Debora, if you could go back and give your younger self a piece of advice before that High court fight, what would it be?
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Speaker 24: I actually I've been asked this question many times, and I have to say the answer is that to not to change anything and just stay naive and believe that you can do it no matter what. Because had I known what was ahead of me, I think it would have been quite daunting and maybe I wouldn't have even started. But so I think it's the case of your younger self is you never know what's around the corner, and just to stay positive.
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Speaker 1: Fantastic advice, Deborah. Great to chat today. The book is called Touching the Sky, The Extraordinary Story of an Australian Trailblazer. It became the longest flying female aline pilot in the world. Deborah, thanks for your time.
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Speaker 24: Great to chat, Thanks Graham, thank you.
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Speaker 1: Touching the Sky. Yeah, what an amazing story. Can you think way back then? And again I can go back to that era and there were designated roles that women perform. You know, you wouldn't talk of a woman becoming a doctor. She would consider a girl. She'd become a nurse. If you wanted to fly as a woman, a female, you would become airline hostess. You wouldn't become a pilot. There's are so many areas that were limited to men. The fact that I mean that story. I told her quite truly that somebody said you can't have women flying a plane. I mean, look at a massive seven four seven. How could a woman, you know, get a plane of that magnitude into the sky. Well, I don't think any man on the planet, if he have to do it manually, could get a plane into the sky. So what we didn't know then and Deborah had I didn't mention her age, but she has been flying for fifty years. So you can work it out for yourself. And an amazing story. What are your thought? It's eight double two three double o, DOUBLEO. A good time for you to ring if you'd like to do it right now. I'd like to hear from you. Eight double two three double oh, good morning, Graham. You expert said there was a shortage of people donating blood plasma. Australia sells blood plasma overseas. How does that work? Do I smell a rat? Do we sell plasma overseas? I have not heard of that. I know that other countries we buy plasma. We buy blood from overseas, which I find is a remarkable situation. We do not pay people to donate blood, and I would like to at some stage talk that over with life Blood. Because we are buying blood and blood platelets and blood plasma from overseas and paying for it. Why don't we pay people here to donate blood? Because obviously you know what thirty three thousand was it doses of blood we need on a weekly basis. If we could pay people, we'd get more donors eight double two to three double o double oh. On Thursday. In fact, Sam reminds me we will be doing an expert from the United States about blood donation and paying for blood donations. But I think it's a fair thing to say, why do we not And I know Lifeblood does have a strong feeling about not paying for donors, that people should donate and donate give blood as a donation, not to be paid for. But I mean, if it was police correctly, and the fact that I mean the story goes that people will donate blood one week and then go back and if they're getting paid for it, and donate on a more often basis than they should. I think it's what every three months is supposed to give blood. But that can be policed, that can be poleased eight double two three double o double oh. Is the number back shortly.
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Speaker 3: Five double A Mornings with Gram Goodings thirty.
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Speaker 1: Minutes to midday, five double A. On this Monday, I keep looking out the window and it's really overcast and a sort of thing, Oh, we're heading towards winter, aren't we. But twenty four degrees cloud clearing today and then the week ahead. Trust me, it's going to be fantastic. Mostly Sunday Tomorrow twenty eight. Wednesday partny, cloudy twenty six, Thursday sunny twenty eight, Friday mostly Sunday twenty eight degree. So going. It's the trend of April. Although April is usually a pretty fine damn month. We don't usually average temperatures in the mid to high twenties. So enjoy it why you can, because it will be gone before you know it. Your calls eight double two three to raise Good morning.
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Speaker 25: Good morning, Graham.
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Speaker 1: What would you like to talk about?
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Speaker 25: Yeah, the blood that we you know, we purchased blood from ost seas. I have a medical disorder that's quite common where you have to actually donate blood. You've got no choice about it. You have to have been a section, sometimes every three months, sometimes every eight weeks. It depends on your levels many years ago. It used to go to the Red Cross and donate there because and it got used. So the blood is okay to use. It's a disorder called himochromatosis, and you have to actually get seen a sections or give blood. They made it and but then the results they have to measure what your levels are. And Red Corosts used to do the tests. They made it so difficult in the end when it's nationalized that lots of people left.
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Speaker 1: Is that right?
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Speaker 25: So this blood that we go through through you know, a private sector, it's just run away and it breaks my heart. So it was just made so difficult through the Red Cross. So there's whole hundreds of people self to people with this disorder. So maybe they need to reach out to those people with this disorder who are going to private clinics because it made it so difficult in Red Cross.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, Terrey's things will bring that through our attention. We'll certainly look into that. I mean, look, I just think it's time done. As we're paid to donate blood and plasma if we're buying it from overseas, and it just doesn't make any sense at all, and if we were altruistic to say that you know you should never play for pay for blood. Why we are paying for it? The nation is paying for it and we're buying it from overseas when the money could be spent here. I mean, people might benefit by just donating their blood every few months. A few extra dollars would help. God I Graham. It's a deliberate dumbing down of young Australians. This was deliberately done in the USA after the jfk assassination. Sinis to people in all Western countries are enforcing this is part of the new world order by twenty thirty. Okay, Debbie says, what do we expect when this generation think TikTok is a solid source for news. That shows just how dumb they are. I also didn't receive a postal vote. I rang the Electric Commission and they said, don't worry. You asked for a postal vote, so you won't receive a fine. Not the point I wanted to vote. Yeah, and that is it, isn't it. I mean there is a breakdown in the system. We have compulsory voting. You know, you have to vote or you want to vote anyway, and you need a postal vote and for whatever reason it doesn't turn up, So the Electrical Commission a straight at post need to get together and get their act together. At one o'clock this afternoon, it's Stacy Lee. Good morning, Stacy Hill Graham.
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Speaker 20: I'm good.
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Speaker 1: How are you very well? Thanks? Does this weather confuse you're looking out the window? Doesn't it look like we? Yeah, well, this is what you expect this time of year. It's sort of grade A cooling down but magnificently.
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Speaker 26: Your head well, and it's actually quite warm when you head out there. It's not cold, it's not the temperature you expect it to be when you look out the window.
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Speaker 1: And the rest of the week gets even warmer twenty eight as we get later in the week.
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Speaker 20: Hey, I'm not complaining.
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Speaker 1: As I said earlier, you know, enjoy it while you can, because all too soon will be saying, oh, fifteen degrees rain and miserable. We'll take it when we can. Absolutely, what have you got today?
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Speaker 26: Well that may have been one of the reasons why a group of men chose to go to the Glenside Park.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, story.
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Speaker 20: Over the playground.
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Speaker 26: And look, I'm not saying there's an issue with exercise groups and getting out there and enjoying some fitness together. Particularly you know, we talk about men's mental health and the stigma surrounding that. So I think it's great that young men are getting together and want to exercise together. But there's this story in the paper today for anyone who didn't see it, a group of a fitness group that Glenside. Yeah, and anyone who's been to that park at Glenside. It's on the corner of Fullerton Road and Greenhill Road. It's huge and it's it's a kid's playground and it's a big one as well. It's a really popular one and at school holidays right now. So there were quite a few kids on the playground playing with their parents and grandparents there watching along when a group of men rocked up, took their tops off, started exercising, put up signage, they drove their cars down in on an entry road and they've got signage on their cars too. So I've gone and had to look at their social media account and as you can imagine, parents and grandparents who were there at the.
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Speaker 20: Time, quite intimidating. It looks like it's a group.
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Speaker 24: Of fifteen to twenty of them that.
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Speaker 26: Would be intimidating if you're using the playground.
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Speaker 1: With your kids, it doesn't appear they got counsel approval or.
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Speaker 26: No, no, the council has said they did it. So I'll be talking about this this afternoon. And again the council's view is similar to I guess most people's when they hear this story. Great good thing to exercise, but get approval first. And a shared playground is just that, it's meant to be shared. You can't come in and take over.
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Speaker 1: And Glen's side, there's you know, adlaid park lands very close by, lots of open space, lots of area running around, even there's exercise apparatus in certain parts. Why not take that over as opposed to taking over a kids and they are kids playgrounds, it is not adult playgrounds. No, no, I don't. I think it's not acceptable.
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Speaker 26: No, no, not to take it over in that way and sort of exclude other people for using it. And whether or not they were trying to be intimidating, you can't help but look like that when it's a big group of men with shirts off, putting signs up, that's the that's the vibe, you know.
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Speaker 1: To quote, well, I was stamping out their territory effectively, yeah, yea, when they're sort of saying, yeah, we're here, this is us and you know what they're doing is fine. It was just the wrong place.
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Speaker 20: It's the wrong place, wrong time when kids are there.
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Speaker 26: So we'll be discussing that this afternoon, and as always, i'd love your thoughts on eight double two three double double Oh. We're also going to head to Sojuna, where there's been problems over the years with antisocial behavior in Sojuna, but I've been sent a bunch of videos and photos from recent weeks and it's ramping up to levels that are really extraordinary and extremely concerning. So I've got videos of fights happening in the main street, of drug paraphernalia on the foreshore, and alcohol bottles left on the foreshore if you go to the inside the public toilets that are there on the foreshore, which is right next to a playground right on the beach, it's the only public toilets in the area, and you go there in the morning. I've got photos of needles, drug paraphernalia, empty alcohol bottles, clothes strewn all over the street, videos of drug deals just happening in the main street, of Sjuna, So the anti social behavior there has really ramped up. I'll talk to a local resident who's concerned about it, and we'll get in touch with the council as well and see if they're free about what can be done about this and why is it sort of seemed to be peaking at the moment. As I say, it's ebbed and flowed over the years. There's always been a bit of an issue in Sjuna, but why is it hitting these levels now? We'll discuss that, And we're going to talk about the AFL tribunal that's up this afternoon. The appeal, the Zach Butter's appeal.
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Speaker 1: Oh, this has gone on longer than Blue Hills. It's crazy. It should have been resolved. Well, it shouldn't have even come to where it died rigently, but I mean it should have been resolved last week.
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Speaker 3: YEP.
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Speaker 26: To John Ralph about that afternoon, and I might ask him as well about the Elijah Hollands.
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Speaker 1: Which is a terrible look for football.
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Speaker 24: It's really bad look.
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Speaker 26: It's really sad for him most certainly, and I can't believe that the AFL has responded in the way they've responded. It doesn't really address anyone's concerned to try and sweep it under the rug. So I'll talk to I'll talk to that this afternoon and try and find out what can and should be done in this situation and will the AFL actually do anything this time?
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Speaker 1: Goodeen, Stacy, Thanks Graham. All that coming up and more this afternoon with Stacy Lee after the one o'clock news. Well, congratulations to Ian from Hei Marsh who called in about EA Scooters. Ian, you've won a double pass to experience the State Opera of southa Strada's production of Cinderella, ex playing four shows only at Her Majesty's Theater from May seven to sixteen. Tickets from State Opera dot com dot au. Well that's just about it for a jam pack program. Just a final word on the blood donors, Hi Graham. My daughter donated blood last week and got a message to say someone at Waler received it a few days later. Thank you, cheers V Thank you for that. And I give plasma and they tell me where it goes. My last two have gone to Brisbane. Thank you for that. Greg, have a wonderful day. Thanks for your company today. Come back tomorrow. We'll do it again.
Speaker 1: Good morning to you. Welcome to a brand new week on five A this Monday, the twentieth day of April. I hope you had a good weekend. Magnificent weather, wasn't it. I'm looking at the week ahead, it's quite remarkable. I think around this time of year April, what do we expect? Low twenties, which is pretty good. But today twenty four, although looking outside you don't think it's going to be anything special. Twenty four cloud clearing twenty eight, Tuesday, twenty six, Wednesday, twenty eight, Thursday, twenty eight Friday. Well, I call it an Indian summer and enjoy it way it can, because we know winter will be here soon enough. Well, on the show today, Donald Trump says there will be no more mister ny Sky if Iran doesn't take the very fair and reasonable deal that has been offered. Tensions in the Gulf of sharply escalated after the President claimed US force has seized an Iranian flag vessel amid an attempted or mose blockade breach. We will have a chat to Michael Shubridge from these Strategic Analysis Australia about the latest situation and the latest developments. Also, it would appear that One Nation supporters has dropped according to two poles out today, we'll speak with nine Radio Federal Politics editor Michael Packy about that. Has the dust settled on the seat of Larga. A new One Nation MP survived the missing votes Debarkle in South Austradia's most marginal seat, and more than eighty uncounted votes were discovered. Thankfully for the One Nation MP, most of them went to her. But we'll have a chat about what is happening with our electoral system with Professor of Politics Clem McIntyre. Australia is heading for a population of forty million people by twenty sixty five. That's fourteen million more than the more in just forty years time. But the Planning Institute of Australia says that's that's not a good thing because there's no national plan to manage it. We'll take a look at that. We're running the risk of overcrowded cities'suring harsing costs, well, we've got those already. Gridlock, traffic well it's not getting any better, and services stretched beyond reasonable. We'll speak with National President to Emma Riley. She says good planning isn't optional, it's essential. There are new blood donation eligibility rules they're taking effect in Australia, safely paving the way for gay and bisexual men and transgender people in long term monogamous relationships to donate blood and platefits. We're going to have a chat with the author of a book called Touching the Sky. Deborah Laurie was a pioneering pilot. I think you would say had the female pilot. It goes way back to the nineteen fifties when she got her pilot's license, dreaming of flight in an era when women were expected if they took to the air, was as an air hostess. That will make some pretty interesting reading. Also something that I'd like Your views on parents and young kids at Glenside Park playground were intimidated when around twenty topless men from the Ready for Fitness group took over the children's play equipment last Sunday. The men did chin ups on monkey bars, push ups. It took over the near nearby climbing net, set up their banners and flags, effectively claiming the space. Now parents, not surprisingly, you asked them to move on. We're ignored. Is this acceptable? Should we expect this in what I would say as a kid's playground. They didn't seek a council approval for it. What do you think. I'd like to know your thoughts on it and if you were one of the Ready for All Fitness group and took her part in it, let's know why did you have to take over a playground the way you did? Eight double two to three DOUBLEO is the number to ring. Did you see the seven new Spotlight investigation last night, The Green Dream. We spoke to Liam Bartlett, the journalist involved last week about it. It lifted the lid on the dark underbelly of Australia's renewable energy and electric vehicle transition. Liam Bartlett went pretty much underground to reveal Chinese controlled minds in Indonesia, where child labor, dangerous working conditions and severe environmental destruction are rife in the extraction of nickel and other critical minerals essential for batteries, solar panels and wind turbines. The working conditions were horrific. It is just hard to believe in this decade that we can seize things happening like that. The program followed the supply chain from toxic open pit mines and polluted rivers in developing nations, through the Chinese refining plants, and into Australia's clean energy projects. The program highlighted heart the global scramble for green technology minerals is exacting a heavy human and ecological toll on some of the world's porest communities. Bob Brown, who was the founder of the Greens, was in fact damning and we know he is certainly into renewables, but he opposes a lot of what is being done. I'd like to know your thoughts on it, pro or con. Did you see the special report the Green Dream on seven New Spotlight program last night? Eight double two to three double double Oh is the number to ring. Love to hear from me. Before we take a break, Let's take a call Ross. Good morning, Graham.
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Speaker 2: I just like to make a comment on this sulfur that's going into the our fuel. I run a diesel vehicle and normally I would get eight point one eight point three liters per one hundred kilometers around town. I'm now getting eleven and a half around town and I've filled up two or three times. And I had to put my car in for a service yesterday and I said to the my mechanic. I said, it's something wrong with the car. They said, no, it's a soulful my putting in. It doesn't burn as fast as your diesel, so therefore therefore you're going to use it. So not only am I getting charged over three dollars a liter, I'm using about four liters more per one hundred k's which is another what fourth twelve fifteen dollars, So you know we're copying it both ways. And I guess I petrol is the same.
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Speaker 1: Now you make an interesting observation, Ross, you reckon. This is just since where they relax the rules to allow more solfur in petrol and and the detail, Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Well yeah, that's that's what they're saying, that they're putting sulfur in it. And talking to another mechanic then and he said, a couple of truckage, they put so much diesel in they're really having to consider as to whether they'll need to empty their tank out every so often and clean their tank because it's not it's not burning as clean as what diesel does as a very slow burner. And yeah, so.
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Speaker 1: I thought it was only going to be a marginal difference. Ross because it wasn't it going back to the standard that we had only last year.
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Speaker 2: I don't know, Dram. I only had this vehicle for the last twelve months, and I know this, but I till a small caravan. Now, when I tied a small caravan, so up, so I go up to eleven point three or leven point four. But that's not what I'm getting around town, and I cannot get at any lawa. And I'm not a mechanical answer that, but I'm just wondering, if it's not burning as fast and it's you're consuming more, isn't that doing any damage? Save therefore or not? Is the government telling us the truth for or not? You know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: Well, there was a reassurance that it wouldn't cause any damage because it was only a tiny fraction, because weren't they going to mix it with the fuel they already had, so it was a cocktail mixed, so the level of sulf was only minuscule. I think we're going to have to get some official comment on this ross an expert in the field, because you know, I mean, that is quite concerning. If you've noticed a discernible difference in the amount of leaders per one hundred kilometers that you're getting good on your ross, sir, thanks for that. We will certainly see what we can find out. Does anybody else notice whether it be diesel or petrol that you're getting. You know you're needing more petrol or diesel for the kilometers that you cover. What does it leads? Excused to be males bagallon. That was easy to work out these days. It's litas per one hundred kilometers. If you've noticed a discernible change, let us know about it. Eight double two to three double O double oh when we come back after the break one nation support has apparently dropped in the latest Poles.
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Speaker 3: Five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Thy Past nine five double A on this Monday morning. I hope we find you well, Andrew says. The Spotlight story also talked about the huge amount of trees. Oops machine just reframed on me. The Spotlight story also talked about the huge amount of trees needed to be cleared in New South Wales and Victoria for wind farms, and that they had to build roads up to seventy meters wide just to be able to transport the wind turbines and the advice to the land clearers for any injured animals they see is to hit it on the head with a blunt object. This is for so called green energy. What is green all of our concerning, isn't it? Sue says morning. I've checked with Yondai regarding our under warranty ConA, and it will not be covered if we knowingly put in dirty fuel. Same as our insurance company sent a message to my federal member about this issue and heard nothing, So at port no longer thank you for that. So yeah, I think this is concerning now, you know, I don't know the technicalities of it all I know, but they allowed us to slip back to our old standard regarding fuel and the level of sulfur. Now that standard was in existence up until twelve months ago and cars ran fine on it. They've reimposed or slipped back to the old rule because of fuel shortages. But if you're finding out from the car dealers and the fact that you're not covered if you're putting in dirty fuel, is this considered to be dirty fuel? I hope you watched the Spotlight program last night. Absolutely no, yes, I certainly did watch it regarding the fuel and the caller saying that he was getting fewer killometers per liter. Hi gg, tell this guy to reset his lph meter? Wow, could you do that? Can you do that? Last night's Spotlight makes me a shame to be a human. I will never buy an ev or have solar panels. I'd like a program comparing new age coal power stations to what was on Spotlight. I'll bet coal would come out on top. That's a big call, Lean, But yeah, thanks for making the point eight double two three double o double Oh is then nob at ring if you'd like to make a comment, Well, are we seeing the first chinks in the armor of Pauline Hansen's One Nation Party? Two poles are today show support for one Nation that we're at record highs have slipped back. Michael Packy, who we often speak to, is nine Radio federal politics editor. He joins us. Now, Michael, thanks for joining us. What are we to make of these latest poles?
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Speaker 4: Look, Graham, look, it's interesting they do both show that's news poll and resolve this show that you know, maybe support for one Nation is starting to plateau, so one Nation is still competitive, like I think the news polls got it at about twenty four percent supporting terms of its primary vote and resolve is on twenty two percent. That's still a fairly strong figure for One Nation, and much higher than last year's federal election. So clearly they've been able to hold on to that core support. But I think that what both polls do show is that essentially, as they come into a lot more scrutiny, voters are seeking a lot more answers from Pauline Hansen and her party. So I think it's about voters saying, all right, we know that one nation stands for lower immigration, but you know what does that actually mean? You know how much lower? And if it is lower, what does that also mean for businesses? We know that one nation stands for you know, zero not a scrapping net, zero missions target, scrapping the climate change Department? Again, what does that actually mean? What does it mean in terms of current contracts that are involved in the renewable energy sphere if the Climate Change Department were to close, as One Nation would like. So I think that what's happening here is that what we're starting to see is that people, as one nation comes under a lot more scrutiny, people want a lot more answers from the party and if they're not getting answers that they quite like, well, it seems that they're starting to shift their vote back to the major parties, whether it be Labor or the Coalition.
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Speaker 1: It'd be fair to say that One Nation exceeded expectations in the South Australian poll though, wouldn't it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely One Nation exceeded the expectations in say, and it'll be interesting to see how the next four years work out for One Nation. Look, it sounds as though that their leader in the state, Corey Bernardi, is probably going to be able to do enough to galvanize the people that have been elected and to make sure that they work as a united team.
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Speaker 1: But that's going to be.
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Speaker 4: The real issue for One Nation, especially in South Australia, is that, you know, are they going to be able to maintain unification. Are they going to be able to stay unified as a party, Because in the past we've seen before when one nation has done well at a state level, it seems that after about a year or so, it all implodes. So the question here will be and the challenge here will be for One Nation. Sure they've done well in South Australia, Uh they do have a you know, a solid leader in someone like Corey Bernardi who's been around the political traps and knows, you know, the politic and knows the political system. But is he going to be able to do enough to really galvanize the party and unify the party behind a policy platform that they can get out there and explain to voters and hold the Malanowskis government to account. Because obviously now there's going to be there's this bit of contention as who actually is the official opposition. Is it One Nation or is it the Liberal Party because if essentially got the same amount of seats. But that's what I think will be the challenge for One Nation in Sa. It will be that unification process. Are they going to be able to remain unified or a year or two down the track or closer to the next state election, will things start to implode? The same thing in the Pharaoh by election, that's a federal by election, which is happening in a couple of weeks time. That's Susan Lee's old seat. She was obviously the opposition leader at a federal level that decided to quit politics altogether after she was dumped as the Liberal leader. The Pharaoh by election will be another test for One Nation as to whether or not they'll actually be able to snatch that seat from the Liberals. I was talking to some people on the weekend, Graham, and they were telling me that they think that One Nation is starting to really wane in that seat of Pharaoh. That while the polls show, you know, that they potentially could win it, there's people that were telling me that they don't actually think that'll be the case at all. They think that the Independent is likely to win the seat of Farah. It won't be the Liberals, it won't be the Nationals, but it won't be One Nation either.
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Speaker 1: What about Angus Taylor, He's had a few months in the top job in the Liberals. How are the polls looking for him?
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Speaker 4: Well, the polls, both the Polls and News poll and the Resolved poll today show that he is actually making some inroads. What the polls show today is essentially that Labor remains, you know, the number one party that you know, One Nation is either number two or number three, depending on which pole you're looking at, And the Liberals are starting and the Coalition more broadly is starting to make inroads, even if they are very marginal increases that they're making and what Angus Taylor, his job as opposition leader does, seem to be coming to some fruition. Both polls do show that he's you know, that he's standing within the electorate is still relatively high. Maybe because he's still new in the job. He's only been in the job for a couple of months. People are starting to get to know him, but at the moment it seems as though voters are liking what they're hearing. The funny thing is about both poles. The Resolve poll shows that support for Anthony Albanesi as preferred Prime Minister is on thirty three percent and Angus Taylor's on thirty two, So there's only one point in it between Angus Taylor and Anthony Albanesi in terms of who is you know, voter's preferred prime minister. In the News poll, the gap is a lot more wider. I think it's about ten points between Albanzi and Taylor. But what it does show is that Angus Taylor is slowly starting to edge up the coalition support and people are prepared to give him a go and hear him out.
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Speaker 1: Michael PACKI thanks so much. For your time today. That's nine Radio Federal Politics editor Michael Packy on One Nation slipping in support? Have you changed of you one way or the other, because, as we've said on this program many times that we have Pauline Hanson on or talk about Pauline Hanson and people would go crazy saying, why are you giving that woman time? A racists? She's this, she's that the other, and that changed dramatically to support. Has your thoughts about one Nation have they changed over recent times? Like to know your thoughts on that. Eight double two three double O double oh is the number? Back?
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Speaker 3: Shortly five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings had a very.
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Speaker 5: Good morning, Graham.
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Speaker 1: You've done us, You've done a poll. It confirms what I've always thought that there's a whole lot of mystery around the scooters. We don't know, as you know, whether we're motorists or ees, scooter users or pedestrians, what the rules are.
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Speaker 5: Well, that's right, and it's interesting since private ownership was allowed back in our use in the public realm back in July of last year, we're obviously see increase in the number of these devices out and about, but it's quite disturbing that the lack of knowledge, I suppose, around the fundamental rules about how they can be used and critically by who. For example, eighty five percent of the responses could identify the speed limits for the scooters, because they're there limits to ten kilometers power on the foot paths and twenty five kilometers now on the road. But probably even more concerned was a lot of the people didn't realize that you have to be at least sixteen years and over to be able to ride these devices in the public space.
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Speaker 1: So that's even on footpaths, is it.
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Speaker 5: Yes, that's right, even on foot for example, if you're people are buying these to their children, for example, they need to understand that if they're not sixteen years to rome and then they can only legally ride these devices on private property. So really important to understand this point, particularly if they were purchasing on the basis they could perhaps use them to ride to school, for example. So I think this highlights that the rules are comprehensive and well intentioned that obviously aimed at the safety of road users. But what this does highlight is we need to be doing a lot more work to ensure that people understand them.
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Speaker 1: Do you have to know the road rules to get on an e scooter?
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Speaker 5: You don't have to, but obviously it's important in the same way as anyone who rides a bike. So if you are going to ride, you need to understand basic rules such as give way, where you should be positioning your bike, and the general operation of road rules. So Eastwood is in particular when you're riding on the footpath and you're to understand that pedestrians have priorities on the footpaths for example, and you need to adjust your speed accordingly and simply when you're traveling on shared paths as well. And because if you're on the road itself you become like any other road users, you have to buy by signals and be aware of the environment in which you're traveling. And that's particularly important too for an e scooter because these devices are inherently not as stable as the biicon on the road. So the riders do need to ensure that they're confident and capable to ride these things safely, but they're also aware of what's going on around them and of course understanding those road rules. Who it's critical.
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Speaker 1: These new road rules, well we're introduced middle of last year and most people don't understand them. Is there a breakdown in the education system?
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Speaker 5: Look, I think we did quite a lot in the initial phase when these first became available for public use. It's probably fair to say that people have not perhaps fully understood all the elements that relate to these and that's certainly backed up by what we see in the survey results. So from our perspective, what we intend to do is to undertake a bit of a campaign to try and remind people about the specific rules that do apply when you're writing these devices, particularly around the speed limits and the importance of ensuring that when you're riding and you have a proper helmet as well, ideally a full face one to provide that level of protection if you're unfortunate enough to come off one of these devices and get involved in the crash. For example, we know from the police start that there's been fifty three injuries so far into een twenty five and there was one fatality as well, and bearing in mind a lot of the crashes and incidents that Clere are not reported, suggest that this is probably more of an issue than we really fully understand. So it does highlight the importance of people who are going to use these devices be fully aware of the importance of following the procedures, following the rules and ensuring they've got their appropriate safety equipment on as well.
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Speaker 1: Is there a governments review of ease good as underway?
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Speaker 5: Yes, it was when these laws were introduced in July last year. The intention was of the the operation of these rules would be reviewed in twelve months, so that's probably something that's going to be under the spotlight in the next couple of months, i'd suggest so, and obviously one of the things we'd be advocating for too. I mean, in principle, I think what the state has done here in comparison to a number of other states in particular, is we really took the best of the rules from the other jurisdics which were allowing the operation of these foodhists in the private in the public realm, and compile them together in a pretty comprehensive list of rules to ensure safe operation. But as I said, the survey highlights that we need to be doing more to ensure people fully understanding.
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Speaker 1: I believe there's an upcoming E safety road safety campaign. Is this directed at schools, kids? Parents? Who is going to be the focus? Yes?
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Speaker 5: Everyone, So anyone who's like to be riding one of these devices will be focusing on those particularly. It's probably an interesting time with the uncertainty about fuel, for example, at the moment, a lot of people might be looking to reduce their dependence on using they can't, perhaps switching to one of these kinds of devices for short journeys, for example. So if people are in that situation, they do need to be aware of the rules that apply around the safe operation of these devices.
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Speaker 1: I've seen some pretty horrendous figures these good injuries coming out of states like Queensland. How do our injury statistics stack up against other states?
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Speaker 6: Well?
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Speaker 5: As I said, there's certainly quite a few injuries have been recorded so far this year, and there's probably a higher level of underreporting as well. So I think given the fact that we've got pretty comprehensive laws in place certainly helps. But I think the importance is we need to be reinforcing these and particularly in the safety related ones in terms of the speed, the wearing of the helmets. The other important month across it's ensuring they've got a suitable white front and rear red light as well, particularly as we're going into shorter days and probably more adverse weather conditions as well. So really important to reinforce these laws and particularly about where they can be written on the roads as well. So for example, if you intend to ride on a road with a sixty kilo eater and our speed li it, it can only be done so if there's an operating bike roller bike lane. So if the bike lane doesn't operate for certain hours of the day, on those hours you need to be moving on to the footpath and then of course slowing down to ten maximum speed as well.
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Speaker 1: What about the idea of mandatory rule information or even age verification at the point of sale.
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Speaker 5: Well, that's an interesting point. Most of these devices are sold and they do have some information, but they really tend to put it back on the purchase to basically and the rules the words are often to the effective people needs to check the laws that applies the operation of these devices in the state in which they're purchased. So it's not really sufficient, and we think there's probably more that could be done in that regard as well to highlight importance, so particularly for parents who's buying is for their children and not understanding that there is that critical distinction that if they're under sixteen, they cannot be ridden in the public space.
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Speaker 1: As the RAI noticed an uptick in the use of these good as any bike since the fuel crisis.
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Speaker 5: Anecdotally there seems to be a little bit more, but I haven't seen any data that's actually confirmed at this stage, so we'll probably just keep an eye on that one. I think, at the end of the day, irrespective of what happens in the fuel crisis. These devices will always have a place because they serve there are convenient means of traveling short to medium distances, and they provide literally daughter or service for many people too. So I think that they will have their place. But obviously is it's really important that the people are going to use and they do so in a manner that's safe for them and also doesn't compromise the safety of pedestrians and road users as well.
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Speaker 1: Charles, just before I let you go, from the text line good morning, rarely see scooter riders with helmets. Seen riders zip from footpath through road, definitely not traveling at correct speed. Electric bikes allowed on footpaths.
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Speaker 5: So yeah, so bikes are allowed on part in the same way that scooters are. In both cases, of course helmets must be worn. E bikes is a bit more. That's a challenging area and we've seen a lot of situations where obviously people have been seriously abusing the use of e bikes. So that's something that we'll be following up on as well as a separate campaign. But the time being, we're focusing on e scooters and then the release of our campaign to highlight the key elements level of safety providers.
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Speaker 1: Charles good to chat. Thanks for your time today. Charles Martin raa senior manager of Road Safety and Infrastructure, on the subjective for e bikes and the laws e scooter's body of thoughts, Andrew says Friday, I saw an e bike in the right lane of a main road going with the flow of traffic, traveling at sixty kilometers an hour. And Saturday I saw two kids, probably ten years of age, riding on the one e scooter. I reckon the police need to be undertaking more blitzers. Your thoughts eight double two to three double O double oh. We'll take a look at stocks when we come back after the break.
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Speaker 3: Five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Stocks in just a moment, but later in the next in factor in the next hour, we'll be speaking with James Ward from Drive dot com dot Au. We had to call a concern that he is getting fewer kilometers using the diesel since the solfur level was increased. We'll find out if that is an aberration or that is in Think what's happening, we speak with James Ward from Drive dot com dot Au on the stock market. As the confusion in the Middle East continues. The market started the day down all odds down by forty three points. A SX two hundred down by forty four points. Brent Crue jumped up by four dollars to ninety six US dollars a barrel. West Texas crewed up by six dollars to ninety US dollars. Gold up by forty five dollars to four thousand, eight hundred and thirty three US dollars a barrel. Well, you don't get gold by the barrel. But I tell you what if you did get it by the barrel, it would be pretty expensive. So gold up by forty five dollars four thousand, eight hundred and thirty three US dollars announce. I think Sam said me up. The Aussie dollar currently buying seventy one point three US cents and that is strong. Times of some calls, I reckon Ian, good morning.
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Speaker 7: Good morning, grime. I have a really simple solution to this. Yeah, it's not going to go away. Its heat bikes, right, we all have to share the road. We all have a responsibility for our own safety and the safety of others. For top end of story, So regro the rider until you get a registration from service essay with a sticker with a specific helmet. You then get a permit. Then you can then go ahead and buy a bike. If you then fla out the laws go from the footpath to the road, go from you know you don't follow the road rules, standard road rules, Well then you get themandpoints and you get a fine. Now if you then have someone who isn't wearing one, well then the police have the authority to seize that bike and crush it. Do it a few times and then they'll get the mess. But the government are too weak, they are too week And I remember turbot Tom Kittson Turner saying he didn't want to be a nanny state. Well he's killing the nanny.
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Speaker 1: Good on you, Ian, thanks for that. Yeah. I think this is one way of making people on e bikes and escooters more accountable if they have to register them and there is some form of identification, because somebody can be on an escooter or an e bike breaking the law and you know you can go to the police or whatever and say, well he was wearing a dark trackie and you know it looked to be about fifteen years of age. Well, so what you can't track someone down like that, so maybe now is the time to take more serious action. Mark says, E scooters and e bikes. We walk our three dogs on the espalard regularly at Kingston Park and Seacliffe and Brighton down to Summitton Park and the speeding e bikes far out number the ees scooters. The bikes are recklessly speeding on the footpath. Most of them are mature riders forty to fifty plus, they would know the rules. Thank you for that, Mark. Let's go to Galla East. Paul, good morning, good morning, How are you good? Thanks? You want to talk about One Nation?
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Speaker 6: Yeah?
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Speaker 8: I don't believe half their polls. I mean absolutely everyone I talked to are for one Nation. And I don't know whether it's a bit of a tactic to lead people away from them because they're gaining power or not. But I think I think.
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Speaker 1: You're a conspiracy theorist, Paul. You don't think these polls are independent?
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Speaker 8: No, they pick little sections. I mean to a real poll, you know, pick thousands and thousands of.
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Speaker 1: The only real polls are the elections, aren't they? And the last real poll actually showed and that was the South of State and state election that one nation was very strong.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's right, and I believe they are. I continue to support them. So to everyone, I.
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Speaker 1: Know, good on your poll there, thanks for your input. Yet, look, I know polls are and then they've probably been more consistent and close to the mark in recent years, but they had a few horrendous years and I don't know if they've changed their methodology to make them more accurate. But people sort of say, you know, hoping to conduct a pole with only a few hundred people, Well, yeah, I know it is very inexact, but the cost of a pole that poles, say, fifty thousand people is very expensive. That's why poles are only a handful of people, and they try and take them from all demographics, all different areas to try and get a blend of the community, so they're prone to failure. But there is a trend, there's no doubt a trend with Resolve and Newspole both showing that one nation has slipped, not dramatically, but it has slipped noticeably. But the next major pole that will have some impact and show us will be the Victorian state election, of course, which will be in November. Jill says, good morning, rarely see scooter riders with a helmet. Seen riders zip from footpath to the road, definitely not traveling at the correct speed. Are electric bikes allowed on footpaths well? No Friday I s or an ee bike in the right lane of a main road going with the flow of traffic traveling at sixty kilometers an hour. Today, the NDIS blowout to fifty billion dollars. May be they should check Trevago and get a better deal. Someone's making a lot of taxpayers money. There is a major concern when you think that ten years ago NDIS did not exist and today its budget is bigger than the defense budget. Now, there's no question that the NDIS was needed, and it has performed wonderfully well in certain areas, but it seems to seems to be operating without any checks and balances, and the cost blowout is absolutely ridiculous. It's not serving fully that purpose it was. Therefore, in the meantime, the tech taxpayer is paying huge amounts. One nation support may be slip in because the successful candidates have been near impossible to access since the election, apparently due to being in training. Who wants candidates being ought to be trained to be like every other politician. I like the candidates before when they were being themselves. You make an interesting point, Andrew, are they going through an indoctrination process? I think it would be fair to say that Cory Bernardi, who is a very astute politician, realized that the people that have won seats are babes in the woods when it comes to dealing with the media, and I think he feared that they would get out of hand say things that they perhaps shouldn't say, and that's why everything is funneled through the more experienced people connected with a party like Corey Bernardi himself and Carlos Kuremba, who is the state leader. When we get to hear individually from the members, that will be very interesting to see. Kerry says, I have a twenty year old second car that has been running on the so called dirty fuel for nineteen out of its twenty years and still running fine. Kerry, I know, But those cars twenty years they were bulletproof, weren't they. They were built to last. The more I see of the huge amounts of rare earth that need to be mine for batteries, solar panels and windmills, and the massive amounts of land that needs to be cleared, plus the amount of energy to mine, manufacture, and transport these energy sources that also don't last, they need to be manufactured again and again. The more I reckon, we absolutely need to be including nuclear in the energy mix. Andrew, I agree with you. Nuclear is just held down, but so many developed nations have seen the benefits of nuclear, and it is the cleanest fuel of all. It lasts longer. I mean a nuclear power plant will last what eighty years or more? When we look at solar panels, what twenty five years? These windmills the same sort of lifespan. They have to be torn down and rebuilt. And at this stage the recycling element is very, very low. And what are we going to do with millions of tons of for old solar panels and old windmills? Mark? Good morning, Hello, Mark, Yes, go ahead, it's yours.
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Speaker 3: Hello.
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Speaker 9: I want to talk about the e bike situation.
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Speaker 1: Sure.
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Speaker 9: So I was walking my two dogs much in bitsy down the street yesterday.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, and I was run off the road by someone on a knee bike, hitting me and nearly running over my dog.
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Speaker 1: Were they traveling at speed?
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Speaker 10: They were going very far?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 10: And then they abused me. They gave me the finger and I gave them a quick yell, and then they started chasing me.
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Speaker 9: Through the park.
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Speaker 1: Seriously, how old would.
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Speaker 10: They have been, maybe in their late sixteen Yeah.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, you see that this roon I'd called them home?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, rightly so, Mark, and I can understand you being upset about it. Yeah, Look, this is an area that we need to get on top of quickly. I would say, because of the current fuel crisis, more and more people will be using e scooters and e bikes. They have to be under control. As the RAA has said, not enough people, very few people know the exact rules and regulations surrounding e bikes and e scooters and we need to have controls. They need to be registered. Everyone needs to wear a helmet. We hear too many stories of people on e scooters not wearing helmets, some horrific accidents. Luckily in this state there have been few serious accidents, but in Queensland there have been a number of deaths. In Western Australia as well. This is going to be a very serious situation if we don't get on top of it right now.
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Speaker 9: Harry, good morning, great grame and I know what in your fault, But if you can buy gold by the barrel or what you're having.
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Speaker 1: Can you imagine? Can you imagine how much a barrel of gold would cost if it's four and a half thousand dollars of bloody outs, grime and very rich man, Harry, wouldn't we aim?
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Speaker 9: I'll tell you what that would have been. My cruise ship off the coast of all came in a couple of weeks back.
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Speaker 7: I'll tell you now.
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Speaker 1: We can but dream.
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Speaker 10: Yes, that's it.
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Speaker 9: The grave. Look the sulfur content in diesel, Now what is it? You have to be a metallurgist or a chemical engineer or whatever I'm I'm not any of those. But I had this problem twenty years ago, right mileage on a diesel vehicle worked like a dog. Slayed my guts out, and bought the three pointed star diesel vehicle. Thought I've made it. It's where you buy your fuel from Graham.
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Speaker 1: Really the standards very that much or did that much?
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Speaker 9: I can tell you this is this is Batchel. I lived it. I was buying the cheapest deesel I could find, and my mileage was dropping and dropping and dropping. I went back to and I won't mention any names, but I can tell you there's only two places in Australia, and if you do the research, there's only two fuel companies in Australia that actually meet the standard on additives. And one of those you could find one of them walking along the beach, and the other one you might want to have a point in one of their cubs. I'll just a few little cryptic clues there, but they're the only two. I would buy diesel from Gray.
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Speaker 1: And there was a mat difference in the number of miles you could cover all kilometers.
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Speaker 9: I bought this vehicle brand new, made in Stutgard, as it was stamped on the engine block, and I was buying the cheapest diesel I could find, and I was watching my mileage. I went from six hundred and seventy six pas of a full pen. I was lucky to strike to get the full fifty. Couldn't work it out. And then one morning I didn't have enough diesel to get to the cheap place, and I went to the more expensive place and my mileage went straight back to bring new mileage.
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Speaker 1: Wow, there's a lessons in that for all of us. Harry you've got to. I mean, I think most of us think that you the only difference is price. If you can get a cheap go where it's cheaper. But you're saying there can be a dramatic difference in the quality of what you're putting in your tank.
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Speaker 9: There is a I lived at twenty years ago Grain and as far as my research of it, what I've been able to find is they're not lowering contents or whatever it's in unleaded that the lowering of contents the diesel apparently is unaffected.
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Speaker 1: Oh okay, right the look.
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Speaker 9: Don't get me wrong, Gray, I'm just a qualified idiot, you know. Who am I? Who am I? I mean, I'm just dreaming of gold barrels, you know. But I lived at Graham twenty years ago. Feed into mine, not joking, without a word of a lie. I watched that mileage drop week after week after week, and I couldn't work it out. And it was only for the fact that I didn't have enough fuel to get to the cheap base.
00:41:19
Speaker 1: You have to fill top it up with the deer place. Look, Harry, that's that's a good lesson for us all there. Thanks very much for your call. We'll take a break for news back shortly.
00:41:28
Speaker 3: Five Double A Mornings with Graham.
00:41:30
Speaker 1: Goodings Well. Donald Trump says there will be no more missed a nice guy if Iran doesn't take the very fair and reasonable deal being often. Tensions in the Gulf have sharply escalated after the President claimed US forces seized Iranian flag vessel amid An, attempted hormones blockade breach. Iran says it will retaliate soon. Just what is happening to try to make some sense of it all, Strategic Analysis Australia Director Michael Schubridge Michael, good morning, thanks for being with.
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Speaker 11: Us Morning Graham.
00:41:57
Speaker 12: Great to talk with Eric.
00:41:58
Speaker 1: So what is happening at the moment? Is this a major development?
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Speaker 11: Yes, what we've got is escalation from both Iran and America. So over the weekend, after briefly opening the strait to a small number of ships, the Iranians closed it again and fired on two Indian flag vessels, and they said they were closing it because of the American blockade, which wasn't part of the original ceasefi ideal. And then after that the Americans have stopped and fired upon an Iranian ship, blowing a hole in its engine room apparently.
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Speaker 1: So what constitutes a blockade under international law?
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Speaker 11: Well, a blockade is pretty much just what it says. It's using military forces, predominantly a navy to stop an adversary shipping from either exiting its ports or entering other ports. And we're seeing the Americans talking about boarding Iranian ships on the high Sea.
00:43:03
Speaker 1: So what is happening now? Would you view that as a major escalation?
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Speaker 2: Yes?
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Speaker 11: I do, because both sides have now used force, so firing on Indian ships in the Iranian case and blowing a hole in the engine room of an Iranian ship in the American case, So that can't be called a ceasefire anymore. And the seasefire was kind of step one in allowing a far more difficult negotiation about far harder issues to start.
00:43:33
Speaker 1: The global oil supply is already in a parlor state. Has this made it even worse?
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Speaker 11: Yes, because any idea that the energy pipeline was going to start flowing again has proven to be wrong. I think there was a lot of optimism when those first few tankers went through the Strait on the weekend on Saturday, but that was crushed by the events we've just been talking about.
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Speaker 1: It would appear that Donald Trump is revisiting his earlier claims that they would attack around infrastructure, bridges' power plants. Is that the way you see.
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Speaker 11: It, Yes, and you could say this is trump brinkmanship. Who knows, But he does seem to think that a bit more force will change Iranian behavior, and I think that is a large miscalculation. He doesn't seem to know that Iran endured eight years of war with Iraq and was losing it for a lot of that time, but fought it to a stalemate. So a few months and further bombardment doesn't seem likely to change their behavior.
00:44:43
Speaker 1: Irana said that it will retaliate soon. What retaliation form would you reckon that would take?
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Speaker 11: Well? So they're now shown that it's not hypothetical that they can keep the straight closed by force, So that will continue. But if the Americans broaden use of force to attack civilian power stations and bridges widely across the country, then the Iranians have said that they will retaliate by doing that across the Gulf, and that will damage a lot more infrastructure. That deepens the energy crisis for a lot longer. After the war ever finishes.
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Speaker 1: Would you expect China or Russia to react in some way, at at least diplomatically.
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Speaker 11: Well, I think Russia's quietly trying to provide material support to the Iranians and things like military targeting. The Chinese look like they're doing the same. But the Chinese, I think, are able to withstand this energy shock, probably as well as anyone, because they invested in proper reserves, unlike countries like our own, And I think they're just quietly watching America weaken itself.
00:45:59
Speaker 1: You've touched on there. What are the implications for Austrata's future fuel security? By are these latest developments?
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Speaker 11: It's worse because any idea that Asian refineries, the ones that the Prime Minister has been touring, will have assured supplies of oil to refine, that's looking shakier now. And some figures around oil tanker traffic through the malaccustrates, which is all the ships that feed the refineries that feed us, so that traffic is alarming lead down. So I think we've got growing energy problems stored up for us.
00:46:38
Speaker 1: Our police talks underway at the moment or planned.
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Speaker 11: Well, the Americans say that Vice President Vance and Steve Witkoff, Trump's golf buddy, and Jared Kushner, his son in law, are still going to turn up in his Lamabad Monday night for Tuesday talks. But the Iranians are saying, well, they can't be any talks while the American lockade is in place, and certainly not if America decides to bomb broadly across Iran.
00:47:05
Speaker 1: It seems to be that there's a lot still do unfold in this Middle East war. Yes, would you expect the ceasefire to be extended.
00:47:16
Speaker 11: Not if the bombing starts. So, you know, hopefully Trump is realizing that actually de escalation is probably the path rather than this thing we heard out of his ambassador to the UN that is all about escalating to de escalate, which frankly is a nonsense idea here. But America will have to end its blockade of Iranian shipping and Iran will have to open the strait at least in some way. But if the bombing campaign starts, I can't see talks happening.
00:47:50
Speaker 1: It seems we're, you know, dealing with brinkmanship at the moment. And who was going to blink first?
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Speaker 11: Yes, it's a bit like that scene from Was It Mad Max two, the two cars driving towards each other at high speed and seeing who's going to swerve off the road first?
00:48:06
Speaker 1: The idea Has it come down to that? Michael Shilridge, great to chat, Thanks for your time today. The latest on the horn moves straight. It's closed, and it's opened, and it's open again, and it's a blockade and well, at the moment we're just pawns in the game.
00:48:20
Speaker 3: Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
00:48:23
Speaker 1: We're here until midday. Eight double two to three double oh double ow is the numbered ring. If you see something happening out on the roads that you would like to share with the five double A audience, please do so. Eight double two three double O double ow. Well, we're talking earlier about the fuel changes and so forth, and the fact that you know Australia is in a crisis situation regarding fuel. There was a change in the amount of solfur allowed into our petrol, which prompted a call a Ross to give us a ring.
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Speaker 2: Said to the mechanic, but said that's something wrong with the car. They said, no, it's assault for that putting in. It doesn't burn.
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Speaker 13: As fast as your days.
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Speaker 2: So therefore therefore you're going to use it. So not only am I getting charged over three dollars later, I'm urging about four later more per one hundred kus, which is another what four twelve fifteen dollars?
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Speaker 1: So you know, so we wanted some explanation. We went to drive dot com a you Director of content, James James, Good morning to you, Good morning. How are you? Yeah? Look well thanks. Does what Ross had to say make sense to you?
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Speaker 9: Look?
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Speaker 14: Yes and no. The thing is, the higher sulfur content fuel was what we had in market up until the end of last year.
00:49:36
Speaker 12: So this is the thing.
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Speaker 14: It's not some new construct that the government has kind of mixed together to make things cheaper. It's basically reverting back to a fuel standard that essentially was in effect up until December last year. And they had supplies of this higher sulfur content that was going to be moved offshore because the new fuel standard that reduced the amount of sulfur had come into effect in January. Rather than move it off shore, they said, okay, well, just we'll relax that standard for a minute and we'll pop this back into circulation. The thing is is it is it is a higher solf content if you have a Euro six compliant engine. Now this is modern European cars in petrol and some diesels, but generally European diesels, because these are designed to run on lower solfur fuel. Now, running them on the higher sulfur content for a couple of months won't make any difference, but you may see a minor performance drop and a minor efficiency drop. But it really is only those Euro six diesels. If you've got a Euro six petrols, if you've got a highlux for example, with that two point eight liter four cylinder, and it won't make a difference. So if you're getting something wrong with your fuel consumption from filling up lately, there's generally going to be a slightly different problem. You might find that your diesel particulate filter needs a burnoff, and obviously on highlights that's now that was the case for a B class action and you now have an after an after effect burn switch in there. Most modern diesels will do that anyway, particularly if you're doing high mileage. But yeah, it really shouldn't affect It really shouldn't affect anything, and if it does, it's super modern European engines that run to the Euro six standard.
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Speaker 1: We had a caller James earlier that that's or texta actually that said they went to their dealer, they bought a he Ondai and that were concerned that if they put in dirty fuel, which they classified as this you know, ultra low or ultra high super sulfur, it would it would avoid their warranty. Would that be wrong?
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Speaker 9: No?
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Speaker 14: No, And we actually contacted Toyota and a number of other brands when this came out, and basically they said no, no, the fuel was complied, like literally was the fuel you were buying up until December last year. So it's like it's called dirty fuel because it's dirtier for the environment because it has a high sulfur content, But we were running it up until December, so it's not like this is a new construct. The lower sulfur content is a better for tailpipe emissions basically, so it's an environmental consideration, not a vehicle consideration. But because Europe has had the Euro six standards, which is an emissions standard in place, those engines are designed to run on lower sulfur content fuel, which is what they have in Europe, which is why they rolled out that standard in Australia from the start of twenty twenty six, a Hyundai running on that fuel. If you fill up at a petrol station in Australia, regardless of what you know, it's being described as your car is covered by warranty. I've got a letter from Toyota that says as such, and I'm sure we can easily get one from from Hyande, o Ko or whoever that says as such, because the fuel is not it's not full of dirt, it's not poorly refined. It just simply has a higher sulfur content. And we had it in Australia as supply that was basically out in all the petrol stations. But when they enacted this Fuel Standards Act at the start of this year, the government was saying you can't put that into circulation, so it was going to be moved offshore. So it was literally the fuel that you were filling up with up until December last year.
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Speaker 1: Let's hope that's reassured a lot of our listeners. Now, just before I let you go, James, we had another caller who said he bought about twenty or so years ago a Mercedes Benz diesel yep, and he got a certain leaders per one hundred kilometers, and it was always shopping around for the cheapest fuel. Then one day he couldn't he didn't have enough diesel left in the car. He had to fill up at a deer outlet, and he said his return of fuel economy improved dramatically. Would they're looking at and we're talking twenty years ago, would there have been a difference in the standard diesel available from service station to service station.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, like some of this.
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Speaker 14: So you see premium petrols, so we know you can get ninety one, ninety five and ninety eight. They're designed for nockraatea. So if your car says it needs ninety five, you don't need to put ninety eight in it. But what the fuel companies do is to add value to those premium fuels. They add there are cleaning additives in there that basically help the engine run a bit smoother, so you don't need it, but it doesn't hurt. So you do see that now with premium diesel. So you see that there are some brands will have just a regular diesel and they will have.
00:54:24
Speaker 12: A premium diesel.
00:54:25
Speaker 14: What that's got in it are some cleaning additives, so that will make it will clean off carbon deposits and other sort of things that form in the engine after years of use. So in theory, with the tank of the you know, the more spendy juice, it's putting a bit of a clean through the engine. It doesn't it's not a higher optane, it doesn't burn richer, it doesn't increase performance, but it may have cleaned carbon deposits that may increase your fuel efficiency. So that's the only real thing there. But again, if your car says nothing on its petrol tank, you can fill it up with ninety one. If it says ninety five, don't need to put ninety eight in, but you shouldn't put ninety one in. And with diesels, yeah, adding the top shelf diesel, it basically has a cleaning additive in there. So that's the only real thing that you'll get out of it.
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Speaker 1: Brilliant good only James, Thanks for your input, appreciated. Thank you. Drive dot com dot I used director of content James Ward, so hopefully that will reassure people about the fuel high GG. Can you get the Flinders UNI expert on nuclear on your show? I've heard him discuss nuclear energy for Australia before how South Australia can lead the way. He's amazing and has a lot of credibility. Yeah, happy to have a chat with anybody regarding nuclear but we know nuclear is a four letter word in Australia. It's illegal by an Act of Parliament for us to have nuclear in this country, although I don't know how that's going to be when we have the Orca Submarines nuclear powered submarines in and around Adelaide, in and around Australian ports high GG, it would be worth asking Julia Gillard what she thinks of the NDIS program she introduced, costing taxpayers a billion dollars a week. Sure it helps many, but is roarted by even more. Criminals are reaping the benefits. This could be Labour's robo death, hence the slow action on it. Thank you for that Ray, and on a lighter note, good on your stee for bringing this to my attention, GG. A US barrel of gold would be worth between ninety eight and one hundred million dollars. That came about because when I was reading out the stocks and the US oil per barrel and the gold that we mention where I normally meant say, you know, four five hundred and fifty three dollars US an ounce, I said a barrel. They're idea, just to have a barrel of gold. Would that solver a fee problems? Probably not mine, but maybe the nations. The fuel in this country comes out of the same boats. This boke is completely wrong. Now you're not referring to James Ward, but a call that we had earlier. I worked in the fuel industry. What he said is one hundred percent faults. To be fair, he was talking about twenty years ago when we had what was at eight refineries in Australia and they not all of them would be pumping out the same quality fuel. It would be fair to say eight double two to three double O double is the number to ring the seat of Darunga hit the headlines last week. It seems to all settled. We'll find out from Professor of Politics Clem McIntyre. Is this the end of the situation?
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Speaker 3: Five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Twenty two eleven five double A, good morning. Thanks for joining us on this Monday, the twentieth day of April. Where is the year gone? Where is the where almost at the end of the fourth month of the year. Soon it will be in the middle of winter, soon will be looking forward to Christmas. Please well the dusters settle on the seat of Narunga or has it a new one Nation MP survived and missing votes debarkle in the most marginal seat in the state. More than eighty uncounted votes were discovered in the Narranga district, which you know didn't auger well with the State Electoral Commission. Professor of Politics, Clem McIntyre joins us, now claim, good morning to you, good morning now tell us, is this the end of it? Do you believe? Are we settled now? Or all votes in and all bets off? You'd have to hope.
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Speaker 15: So in the seat of Narranga, which you just mentioned, of course, the original margin was very close, so finding eighty votes was enough to have made a difference if they'd virtually all gone for the Liberal Party, which of course they didn't. So even if there is an old bats lying somewhere still undiscovered, it's unlikely that there'll be enough votes in there to overturn any of the results that we've now had declared. So yes, I think we can coach the fingers crossed s it's the end of the matter.
00:58:47
Speaker 1: You don't see there being an appeal at all.
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Speaker 15: No, well, it's not for me to say, but I can't see the base there'd be a basis for an appeal anywhere. You've got to demonstrate that the result would have gone the other way if everything had gone to the normal proceedings. And I think it would be very, very difficult for anyone to claim that there had been actions by the Electoral Commission which had the effect of depriving one of the candidates.
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Speaker 1: Of the seat.
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Speaker 15: So you know, even with the fact that some of the polling boots were delayed in opening and so on, you'd have to find enough voters prepared to sign a statutory declaration to say I was going to vote for this candidate, but I turned up and I could vote at eight in the morning, but I couldn't vote in the afternoon. Therefore my vote I was denied a chance to vote. And the chances of finding enough people in that situation are negligible, I think, so I wouldn't expect there'd be any challenges.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't a good look for the essay Electoral Commission even on the day. They hardly covered themselves in glory, the problems with understaffing, people having to queue for hours, and then you know we've heard weeks later some workers are still to be paid.
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Speaker 15: Yes, so right, it's not been the best election for the Electoral Commission. There's always a review into the performance of the Electoral Commission and the conduct of the election after every state election. There will be again this time. I think there'll be a few more questions for the Commission to be answering this time round. Doubtless they'll be able to explain why those problems were there. But as you say, not a particularly good look and they haven't covered themselves in glory. Now, having said all of that, I think we need to recognize that we're very lucky in Australia to have one of the best electoral systems in the world. We have a completely independent electoral Commission that politicians come interfere with. They don't get to say what the boundaries are. Politicians set the rules for the election, and then an independent commission runs the whole process. And yes, there were mistakes this time round, but anyone arguing that the integrity of Australian electoral system is under serious question because of those errors. I think is making far too strong a case, its way ahead of most in the world, even with a few mistakes allowed.
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Speaker 1: For now, Klaim, I know you're out of the country at the moment. Have you seen the two polls that show support for Pauline Hanson slipping?
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Speaker 15: Yes, I saw that this morning.
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Speaker 1: Are you surprised, Yes, and no.
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Speaker 15: I'm still surprised at the level of support for Pauline Hansen at one level because I don't think really what we've seen from one nation at the state level and at the federal level is really a plausible alternative government. Yet I haven't seen comprehensive policies developed and put to the Australian people. What I've seen is evidence of a lot of Australian voters who are very unhappy with the way things are at the moment and are frustrated that it would seem neither of the major political parties that we've been so used to for so long seemed to have the policies in place to resolve some of those problems. So I still think that one nation, the support for one nation, is the expressions of an expression of grievance or disaffection with the major parties.
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Speaker 4: And when.
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Speaker 15: It comes to actually casting a vote for an alternative government, I suspect and one nation's policies are put under a bit more scrutiny, then I think that we'll see some falling away of that vote. So I don't think anyone in South Australia for a moment thought that one Nation were going to win the election. We all knew that Labor under Peter Melanauskis was set for a huge win, and so in the sense, I think some voters just thought, well, I'll send a message by voting for one nation. If they were a plausible alternative government, then I think voters would be thinking, that's just a bit more.
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Speaker 1: Carefully about their vote. Now, it might be wrong.
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Speaker 15: In what are we two years out from the next federal or just over two years from the next federal election. Things could go in any direction at the moment, with international affairs as they are, that can have huge repercussions on the Australian economy, cost of living and so on, and voters may well decide it's time for a radical change.
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Speaker 1: So I wouldn't want to.
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Speaker 15: Bet my life on it yet, but I still think that I need to see a lot more from one nation to de demonstrate that they're a plausible alternative government.
01:03:32
Speaker 1: What about the polling on Angus Taylor, He's only a few months into the job. Would that be reassuring the Liberal Party?
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Speaker 15: Yes, I think so. It was clear that Susan Lee was not exciting the voters. She had a lot of internal problems that were evident to most of us watching politics. Angus Taylor has come in with I think, a fresh voice. We normally see when there's a change of leader that there is a bit of renewed interest. People pay a bit more attention perhaps to what the new leader is saying, in contrast to the frustrations they may have had with the previous ones. So I'm not surprised that there's been a bit of a bounce for Angus Taylor. And I think also he is probably articulating some of the concerns of those that were falling away from a Liberal party in previous polls. Perhaps he's articulating their concerns just a bit more clearly, and perhaps he's bringing a few more voters back to the Liberal parties or consequence. But a long way to go before the next federal election.
01:04:38
Speaker 1: And the figures regarding the Prime minister. In times of turbulence and war, usually, you know, people sort of focus more back on the government. What can the government take out of the polling?
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Speaker 15: Well, I think the government would be happier if the polls were stronger, notwithstanding all of the circumstances, and I think that they just have to stick with the core principles that they've been trying to govern by. That they're in a sense they're at the hostage of fortune with events completely outside the government's control. If if there's serious problems with a supply of fuel and jet fuel and things like that continue, then the government's going to be facing serious problems no matter what its policies are. So not all of it is in the in the control of a Labor party, but I think that they still hold a reasonably commanding lead over both of the Coalition and One Nation, So you know, there's comfort for Labor in that the fact that the opposition is divided.
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Speaker 1: Professor, thanks so much for your time today. That's the professor of Politics, Clem McIntyre. On the situation, the ranger, the polling of One Nation, What are your thoughts on it were you are confirmed or solid one nation supporter, if you relaxed that viewpoint or you're more entrenched or whatever. It's interesting that the feedback, and we've got quite a lot on the text line or trying to get to those texts as the morning progresses. But I'd like to know your thoughts. Eight double two to three double oh is the number I heard the story. This is from the text line. All fuels are the same twenty years ago. Your guest was right, it's who puts in quality additives, hence higher consumer cost and only two companies meet the required standard regarding nuclear They have nuclear medicine and hospitals. Wonder where they store it before and after use? Well, I think you'll find that hospitals store their nuclear waste on the premises. So we have nuclear waste stored all around Australia. Is it Lucas Heights and Sydney where they have a small nuclear reactor, But to all hospitals when in their treatment need nuclear radium or whatever is I'm not quite sure what it is, but they have nuclear waste. So we do already in this country have a nuclear waste, but it is stored in our cities I think we'd be all more comfortable if it was stored away from the cities and we had a nuclear waste dump somewhere. That's an argument that we might take up again at some stage, because this state and Australia could make a lot of money out of becoming the world's nuclear waste dump. We have very stable topography. We have some of the oldest stable land in the world. We could bear it way out in the middle of nowhere where it would be safe and you know, for thousands of years, and we could make a lot of money out of it. Could I Graham further cryptic clues on only two fuel companies I buy diesel from. Both are linked to Western European royalty stopped teasing us high gig I saw cris Bow and an Arts very recently that they had just on our higher soft of content diesel because of the fuel shortage, not that it's been happening all this year, as your guests suggested. Thank you for that, Ziggie. Well it was March, wasn't it that the government relaxed that, And I mean it's not a critical change. Let's face it. The fact is that this fuel with the higher sulfur we were using up until what December of last year. And it's not about the way cars run, it's more about the environment. And they relax that ruling because of the fuel crisis. And I think the relaxing of the ruling is due to end in the end of May, so it'll be interesting to see if it is extended after that time. Eight double two three double O double oh is the number to ring back shortly.
01:08:36
Speaker 3: Five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
01:08:39
Speaker 1: Two eleven five double A on this very pleasant Well, it's overcast, but it's going to be pretty warm twenty four degrees and then it's actually warm twenty eight degrees for much of the rest of the week. And we're talking about fuel and fuel storage. We last week talked about Western Australia moving to store more fuel because they think they need a particularly for the rural sector. Well, that sentiment has been echoed by the state opposition. This is what Ben Hood had to say on five double A Breakfast this morning speaking with David and Will.
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Speaker 16: The fact that we South Australia has no strategic fuel reserve, we've got long supply chains and that ultimately lays is vulnerable so we're proposing a sensible LAYD fuel resilience framework. Now does that mean, well, that's practical support for farmers to build on site storage, so they've got the buffer there on site reserves for hospitals and sa water because that's widely important as well. But importantly, a dedicated fuel security Coordinator which would sit within the part of the Department of Energy and Mining, which would look at where our fuel is going, have real time supply chain data reporting from importers and terminals, wholesales and distributors, and then on top of that modest rotating buffer in existing private terminals.
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Speaker 1: That was Ben Hood onle Breakfast this morning. Do you think we should have a separate storage facility in Australia in South Australia. I mean there is some storage in Australia generally, but it looks like the States realizing there is an inadequacy in this area going it alone. Should we join them? I'd like to know your thoughts on an eight double two to three double o double the number. Well, Australia is heading for a population of forty million people by twenty sixty five. That's another forty million more in just forty years. But the Planning Institute of Australia says, well, there's no national plan to manage it. Emma Riley is the Planning Institute of Australia's national president. She joins us now, Emma, good morning to you.
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Speaker 17: Good morning Graham.
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Speaker 1: Quite remarkable. I'm a forty million by twenty sixty five. I think a lot of people have thought our population is growing fast. But that's a that's a pretty scary figure.
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Speaker 17: It is. It's just the figures that are put out there with populations forecasts that were working too.
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Speaker 1: Now the concern is then the Planning Institute of Australia is making the point that it's all well and good to be heading towards a population like that, but what's the plan?
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Speaker 17: Yeah, well, I mean that's really is our point is that in Australia we kind of split responsibilities. The Commonwealth government deals with migration, major infrastructure funding, other support mechanisms, while state and local government are kind of managing planning and service delivery. And say, we're advocating for a national plan for Australia's growth to bring decisions that are currently made separately together. That includes housing, infrastructure and economic policy, which all shape where people live, and they're currently not well aligned.
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Speaker 1: What you see is the major challenges. I think what we.
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Speaker 17: See is that the decisions made are not connected to each other, and people experience not planning well for growth in negative ways, so they feel it in longer commutes, higher housing costs, infrastructure arriving too late. Planning well shows up as more homes in the right places, better access to jobs and services, and a national plan, from our perspective, will provide a long term framework, so decisions are made with a shared understanding of where growth is happening and what's needed to support it.
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Speaker 1: Your report suggests that most of this growth will happen on the two major centers of Sydney and Melbourne.
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Speaker 17: Well, look at the moment, that is what's happening. But that's not plan I mean, that's not particularly plan growth. And what we're suggesting is doing a national plan is an opportunity to look at different scenarios about how growth can occur across Australia, rather than each stage and territory just responding to what comes to them.
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Speaker 1: You've suggested that unplanned growth can make natural disasters more costly. How can that come about?
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Speaker 18: Well, the so planning in part is about making sure that we're I suppose building homes and creanning infrastructure in places that are not at long term risk.
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Speaker 17: Decisions today that where we live, where we have infrastructure really locking risks for decades. A national plan will help avoiding placing new homes and infrastructuring new high in high risk locations and reduce long term costumes disaster insurance and recovery. It's ultimately about planning for resilience as well as growth.
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Speaker 1: Should there be more of a plan to decentralized I mean you mentioned of course you know the major growth areas of Sydney and Melbourne will continue to attract people, but should the growth be channeled into two smaller regional centers.
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Speaker 17: So we don't have a particular opinion on whether one who is preferable or not. I suppose doing a national plan is a way in which to test the scenarios and ensure that as we're enabling choice and ensuring that we're ready to go with infrastructure and support as we grow.
01:14:28
Speaker 1: Some people think that the problem is principally the speed of our population growth, and what would your response be.
01:14:36
Speaker 9: Look, Australia will grow no matter what.
01:14:42
Speaker 17: It's it isn't just about migration. Obviously. The reality is that will grow over time and the question isn't for us about how big the population is. It's actually about how well we manage growth and growth can bring real benefits to communities when it's properly planned. And yeah, this is really about addressing the current issue that we're not well aligned between housing, infrastructure and jobs. Ultimately, Australia will continue to grow. The numbers are one thing, but what we're saying is we need a national plan to grow well.
01:15:28
Speaker 1: Emma, thank you so much for your time today. It's good to chat Emma Riley, Planning Institute of Australia National President. What are your thoughts, folks on the continuing growth of Australia. They are alarming figures, aren't they. The population of over forty million by twenty sixty five. And I mean the suggestion is at the moment we can't keep up with the growth the way it is. The housing is falling behind by the day, and the government seems loath to cut back the population migration numbers by any substantial number. And if we get to forty million people, where are they going to live. How big will Sydney and Melbourne get? Will the overflow come to places like Adelaide? Do we have the infrastructure certainly the straining public service or public transport wise, straining housing wise? Will we have enough water? Will we have enough power? As Emma suggested, there is no plan. Remarkable when you think about it, a country of this size looking towards the future having no plan for the future. Dave, good morning.
01:16:32
Speaker 19: Go in your circle. Have you heard of anybody who applied for postal boats not receiving them?
01:16:42
Speaker 9: No?
01:16:43
Speaker 1: I haven't, No, have you.
01:16:46
Speaker 9: I have.
01:16:48
Speaker 19: On our lad who was at Warga and he imployed via the email and whatnot, and he never received his. And I've got a mate who has clearly strong political convictions.
01:17:03
Speaker 6: He doesn't go to the electoral side, ends up argument, and he's applied for postals and he's normally gone.
01:17:14
Speaker 19: And he didn't receive one this year. So I just wonder whether there's something going on as well.
01:17:21
Speaker 1: Well. I'll tell you what it would be. Incompetence that would be the reason. What it's the old theory. You know, if it's a conspiracy or incompetence, someone will come up and tell me the saying, you know, it always lean towards the incompetence, and I think which is not acceptable. I'm not saying it's acceptable, but I think, Look, Dave, anyone that's been placed in the situation needs to lodge a formal complaint with the Electoral Commission.
01:17:48
Speaker 19: I'm sort of just hanging back now to see whether I get a form.
01:17:53
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well that's the point too, isn't it.
01:17:56
Speaker 19: And that's the other thing that would be.
01:17:57
Speaker 1: The ultimate insult, isn't it. You've applied for a postal vote, you never get it, and then they find you for not voting.
01:18:03
Speaker 19: That's right. And I've got the pips up with them anyway, because I've got a forty p year old play I'm sixty six telling me how to bloody vote. I've been vote longer than me. He's been alive. That is me right off too.
01:18:19
Speaker 12: I can understand just the grumpy.
01:18:21
Speaker 1: Al far Well, you're allowed to be grumpy, Dave, but you make some good points. There's anyone else out there been in the position where you applied for a postal vote, mean you're on holidays in the state, on business or whatever. It never arrived. And as as Dave suggested, how would you feel you tried to get a postal vote, never turned up, and then they're going to hit you with a fine for not voting. That's another black mark against the Electoral Commission. But anyone who's placed in that situation, firstly, give us a call, tell us about it. Secondly, you must lodge a complaint, a formal complaint with the Electoral Commission about it, or at least go to your local member and say this is the situation, because that is totally unacceptable. And the electoral Commission that normally does a wonderful job. There's a litany of problems and issues that have happened around this election. Phil says, one of my sons applied for a postal vote the past two elections. One arrived after the election, the other never arrived. That is not good. That is not good. Andrew says, we absolutely need our own fuel back up with current world events. You reckon. Peter malanaskus would be in front of the camera saying just that, but he isn't even talking about it. Yeah, look, I'm surprised. I would have thought this state, being as progressive as it is, would have been on the front foot. But We've heard that Western Australia is definitely making the move to store its own fuel supplies. Tasmania is doing the same. Hopefully we will fall into line because the federal government seems loath to increase our stocks of fuel. I mean, they fly in the face of the IA who says, have ninety days fuel supply? We have what thirty thirty something days supply? The federal go I thinks that's enough.
01:20:01
Speaker 3: Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
01:20:05
Speaker 1: Seven past eleven five Double A the final hour of the show. Is still time for you to take part on eight double two to three double. Oh Well, here's an alarming statistic. Jen z is the first generation in modern history to score lower than their parents in attention, memory, reading, and problem solving. What is it done to well? Heavy screen time in schools and daily life apparently is fueling a global cognitive decline and that reverses decades of progress. Just how serious is it? What can we do about it? Joining us now is Professor Dot Doomwe, who is the Adelaide University Professor of Behavioral Epidemiology. Professor Good morning, thanks for being with us today.
01:20:48
Speaker 20: Morning Graham, and good morning to your listeners.
01:20:51
Speaker 1: Is that right? Are we going backwards? Our young people struggling and it's largely due to the screen.
01:21:00
Speaker 21: Well, that's very interesting statistic. I actually hadn't heard that one. That does sound extremely alarming. I'm guessing the way that cognition and all that has been measured is probably changing over time.
01:21:15
Speaker 20: And perhaps it may not be that.
01:21:18
Speaker 21: Alarming, if you know, we're just children are just learning in different ways nowadays, and maybe they're learning things that aren't measured on some of those scales. But surely, yes, there are concerns about the reliance on digital technology and just the amount of time that gets spent on devices, and a lot of that time isn't actually beneficial for cognition.
01:21:43
Speaker 20: It is just wasting time. Really.
01:21:45
Speaker 1: I mean they're very seductive, these devices, the screens and so forth. I mean there's color and movement, things happening, way more exciting than looking at a textbook.
01:21:55
Speaker 21: Yeah, that's true, and there are you know, there are ways that we can use Who's online textbooks and online learning to sort of shortcut what we may have in the past have used for learning. So you know, when you're reading about a topic in a textbook, you can't just do the control find to find the bit that you need to answer a question, right, you need to engage with the whole text, and it takes a longer time to read.
01:22:22
Speaker 20: You can't skim it as well.
01:22:24
Speaker 21: So I think the online option, although it can be saving a lot of time, might encourage a more superficial engagement with the material where you can just search for the bits.
01:22:35
Speaker 20: You need without understanding the whole thing.
01:22:38
Speaker 1: The feeling, you know, is not I don't know if it's a universal but many developed countries including Sweden, Finland, Denmark and others have observed these noted clients and are taking action. In fact, Sweden is spending one hundred million euros I think it is for printed textbooks. It's sort of reversing the trend, that's right.
01:23:00
Speaker 21: Yeah, they're wanting every student to have access to a textbook for every subject, which is yeah, that that's actually really interesting, sort of going back to how it used to be. But also, you know, with screens and having these resources, they're actually quite expensive and not all students in all areas can equally access digital technology, so there is a bit of an equity of access issue, and over relying on technology can sort of widen those gaps.
01:23:37
Speaker 20: So I think, yeah, it could be a really positive.
01:23:40
Speaker 1: I guess it's striking the right balance, isn't it, because you know, we can't reverse history. You can't sort of say, all right, you know iPads and know all digital screen that's out the window where we just go back to textbooks, because that's not what life is about. Is it about finding the right balance.
01:23:56
Speaker 20: I think you've hit the nail on the head there. There must be a.
01:23:59
Speaker 21: Balance because our students need to be digitally aware that in this day and age, for the careers that they'll go into, they need to know how to use technology, but they also need those foundational skills of reading and writing, you know, which there is evidence that these develop better through actually physically writing with a pen, you know, and a pencil, so you get that sort of motor engagement as well as just engaging your brain by you know, by reading or typing or using an iPad. So there are those foundational learning things that are you know, the early primary where perhaps you need to balance a bit more on the side of the non digital methods, but then definitely as they go through into the higher the later primary and the secondary school, the understanding how to use digital technology and using those tools to their advantage is a very important aspect of what they need to learn.
01:25:02
Speaker 1: South Australia made a very progressive move for a year or so back on limiting the amount of screen time or particularly you know, people kids taking smartphones in the classroom, even you know, in the playground and so forth. Do you reckon that was a good idea.
01:25:18
Speaker 21: Yeah, I've got children at school who were in that transition period before and after.
01:25:24
Speaker 1: And how did they respond?
01:25:26
Speaker 20: Yeah, they initially.
01:25:28
Speaker 21: There was a lot of unhappiness, but I think it was more about how we you know, what is something happens and we need to contact a parent about getting home after school, catching the bars, that kind of thing. And then the school solved that by letting them bring their phones and then they hold them during the day and back at the end of the day. So I think once all that kind of stuff was sorted out, the kids, Yeah, my.
01:25:53
Speaker 20: Kids are fine not using their phones during the day.
01:25:56
Speaker 21: They were worried about because they used them as calculators in math, you know, but you know, the schools were able to work around all that, and I think, yeah, now at lunch time they'll play cards, they'll go to the library. Yeah, they just seem to engage more.
01:26:11
Speaker 1: So as a parent, you've seen positive outcomes, Yes.
01:26:14
Speaker 9: I have.
01:26:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, professor, thanks so much of your time. Great to have a chat. Sweden pivoting away from technology. They believe because of cognitive development as being arrested effectively, I mean a scary terms. But jen Z the first generation in modern history to score lower than their parents in attention, memory, reading, and problem solving. As a parent, have you noticed the same thing we were speaking then with Adelaide Unique, professor of behavioral epidemiology, Professor Dot Doomwe It's scary, isn't, Because I think as a parent you always think, you know your kids are smarter than you, and that's the way it's always been. I think my parents thought that I was smarter than them. I hadn't feeled totally. But I mean that's just the progression, and you would expect that teaching methods improve. But the fact that jen Z is failing cognitively compared to earlier generations, and because they are a generation that has only been brought up in the non textbook world. Effectively, let's say, called Dennis, good morning.
01:27:18
Speaker 22: You get it?
01:27:19
Speaker 9: How are you going good?
01:27:19
Speaker 1: Thanks mate?
01:27:21
Speaker 22: Yeah, I was just bringing in reference to the postal vote.
01:27:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure.
01:27:26
Speaker 5: My partner and I were going away on the fourteenth.
01:27:28
Speaker 22: We gave plenty of time where we had to email through and got a postal vote. But the postal boat came on the seventeenth. So we were already away when the postal boat came. So I don't know whether we'll get a fine or not, but you know we couldn't vote.
01:27:43
Speaker 1: No, you've got a pretty fair reason for not getting a fine. I mean, you know you couldn't vote.
01:27:49
Speaker 19: Yeah, that's exactly it.
01:27:50
Speaker 7: I mean.
01:27:51
Speaker 22: And we told him we were going away in the fourteenth we need this gear information before and things like that, and from there it just became we got it on the even said on the envelope, received on the sevent eighth, so we received it three days after we went away.
01:28:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, not good enough, Dennis, thankful letting us know that, and let the Electoral Commission know it has not been their finest star of this election. I'm just trying to think. In the past, I think things have gone seamlessly, flawlessly, but this election, for what happened to Ranga, which is the high or low point of the whole lot. The fact that on polling day there were people that are the polling stations that were not well versed in what they had to do. There were delays, people having to wait way longer than they expected. The fact that the people who worked on the polling stations and as volunteers or not volunteers, they were paid for it, but they're waiting weeks later still to get paid. Dave, you want to talk about the postal situation too, Yeah, good morning Graham.
01:28:51
Speaker 13: My dad was in the Calvary Hospital during the election and they told him that they would be around to his bed too getting his vote. Yeah, after the vote has all finished. He said, what's going on and they said, oh, you're supposed to every supposed to get down to the foyer. And he was bedridden.
01:29:15
Speaker 12: So that's crazy.
01:29:19
Speaker 1: Certainly not good enough, Dave, thanks for sharing your story. I think all this has to get back to the Electoral Commission because it's not good enough. I mean, it's so important and we it's compulsory voting in Australia, and we pride ourselves in the fact that we have compulsory voting, and yet the Electoral Commission make it so difficult. If it's got to be compulsory voting, they've got to make it so that everyone who wants to vote can vote when you're away on the holidays, considering going away out of your electorate, there has to be a way that you can get your vote fully and fairly. Gg. Isn't it telling that the individual states are looking to secure their own futures in relation to fuel when this is a federal government issue that speaks volumes about our PM and the lack of confidence in him. Darren, I think you've summed it up perfectly. That is dead right. Why should each individual state be going on its own and that's going to create issues on its own. I would think when there should be a uniform national approach for national storage. I mean, how does that fit into the IEA's plan that the government has to have ninety days storage. Well, we fly in the face of that and only have thirty or thirty five day storage. But then the government can say, oh, well, some of the states have got a bit of fuel stored away too. I mean it is an ad hoc unsatisfactory arrangement. Dan says, I was reading online and saw that some people have got their postal vote only just last week through the post. So all these people get fines due to others in competence. Well, no, you've got a logical reason, Dan, if you did not get the postal vote form, you will not be charged. But I mean if they send out a fine for you, you've got right to be very very peeved. We'll take a break back shortly.
01:31:01
Speaker 3: Five Double A Mornings with gram Goodings.
01:31:06
Speaker 1: Twenty two past eleven, five Double A this Monday morning. We don't want to be like Sydney or Melbourne. We are the driest continent. They don't think it's disgusting from the text line, Yeah, some thoughts coming through strongly on the fact about the prediction that we'll have a population of forty million in Australia by the year twenty sixty five and there is no plan. There is absolutely no overall plan for the growth of Australia. And I was just doing some sums on the amount of water that Australia will need and where is our extra water coming from. Pray tell we don't build any more dams. You can't count de cell plants because they're there for an emergency. They're there for backup, and if we do have to build more de cell plants, what's that going to cost? And the cost of desalinated water is very very expensive, extremely expensive. So all of a sudden, I've got a population of forty million people. Yeah, lots of things to be considered. There is no national plan. We will certainly pursue that matter. If you have some thoughts on it, I'd like to hit them eight double two to three double is the number. Well. On a more positive note, new blood donation rules have come into force, expanding eligibility for gay and bisexual men. It started from today. Joining us now is Life Blood Australia Pride Chair Josh Smith. Josh, good morning to.
01:32:28
Speaker 23: You, good morning, thank you so much for having me. It's such an exciting day for us.
01:32:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, look tell us about it. I mean blood is always in demand, but up until now, so many people have been excluded absolutely.
01:32:40
Speaker 23: So from today we are change our eligibility criteria and now we're going to be asking everyone the same questions about their sexual activity, which means that a lot of gay and bisexual men and trans people who are previously unable to donate can now come in roll up their sleeves and give a whole blood donation. And that's in addition to our Plasma pathway which launched last year in July, allowing plasma donation and with almost no restrictions around sexual activity at all.
01:33:03
Speaker 1: Were these restrictions I think they were introduced around the time of AIDS, weren't they.
01:33:08
Speaker 12: That's correct.
01:33:09
Speaker 23: Yeah, So these restrictions were introduced as a response to the AIDS pandemic in Australia and thankfully, over time, transmission amongst the population has reduced to a point where we're able to make these changes in a safe way and invite more people to come and donate to ultimately support Australia's blood supply and all those people relying on us every day.
01:33:27
Speaker 1: Just opening up to so many more people to be able to give blood. And let's face it, lifeblood is always calling out for more donors. Just how much is that going to ease the pressure?
01:33:38
Speaker 3: Yeah?
01:33:39
Speaker 23: Look, we're expecting from the eligibility changes today to see an extra twenty thousand donations over the next twelve months. And when you think about the fact that one donation can impact three lives, that really has a massive effect. It can be sixty thousand people that have been helped by those twenty thousand donations not to mention the ongoing effects from that into the future.
01:33:58
Speaker 1: And it must be so reassuring that you know that stigma has been removed.
01:34:03
Speaker 12: Absolutely.
01:34:03
Speaker 23: Look, that's something that's really important to us at Lifeblood as we move through this change.
01:34:07
Speaker 12: This change reflects our organizational values.
01:34:09
Speaker 23: So it's a really important thing to us that we can repair that relationship with queer community in a meaningful way and show everyone that they're welcome and safe to save lives.
01:34:18
Speaker 1: Now, donor centers, did you say how many donations and we need on a weekly basis.
01:34:23
Speaker 23: Look, we need thirty five thousand donations every week to keep up with demand across Australia's healthcare network and that's including plasma which is.
01:34:30
Speaker 12: In demand more than ever these days as well.
01:34:32
Speaker 1: And if anyone wants to give blood or find out more, what should they do?
01:34:35
Speaker 23: Oh, they should jump on our website lifeblood dot com dot au or give us a call on thirteen fourteen ninety five. Book an appointment, make sure you're eligible, check the travel and medications as well, and then come in, roll up your sleeve and help someone.
01:34:48
Speaker 12: That's the most beautiful thing about it.
01:34:50
Speaker 23: You're going to help a stranger that you'll never meet, but they'll be grateful to you forever.
01:34:53
Speaker 1: Good on your Joshua, great to chat life Blood Austrata Pride chair Josh Smith on the relaxing of rules that allow were gay and bisexual men to be able to donate blood and that started from today. Eight double two to three double double is the number to ring lines are free if you want to call up right now. Good morning, Graham. Forty million extra in Australia population. The only way we are going to feed these type of people in our community is that the Bradford scheme bringing water across Queensland into central Australia. And we would not have any choice to go and use nuclear power plants in Australia because it will be the only way to do it. PS. Have a great week, including your producer in the background, Have a great day and better tomorrow. Thank you very much for that, Paul. Yeah, we're not talking an extra forty million people, a total of forty million people. You mentioned the Bradford scheme. Yeah, we've talked about that in the past and there was a new Bradford scheme It was all about bringing because in this country, you know, the bottom half of the country is dry, dry, dry, perennially in a state of drought. In the northern half of the country. We have so much rain, so much downfall, so much water, and most of it there's wasted, most of it floods out to sea. If it could be diverted south, and that was the Bradford plan, but it was costed. It was found out to be too expensive. But what is too expensive? As I've said in the past, if this was China, they would just do it. They would just do it now. Obviously they can. They don't have to win elections. Their government doesn't have to win an election. They can just say we are doing it. We're doing it. But you know, seeing we have so much water in this country, if half of it could be diverted south, it will be so much benefit to the country and the fear that we get to forty million population. Where is the water coming from. I'll do some sum short in and let you know just how much water we need. Andrew says, I just wanted a change of opposition and saw one nation as being the best option. Harry says, I heard the story all fuels are the same twenty years ago. Your guess was right. Who puts in the quality additives hence a higher consumer cost. Only two companies meet the required standard eight double two to three double double is the number. Labor don't care, Graham. All these people have been paid for by labor into their electorates for votes, buying votes straight from the US Democrats and UK labor playbooks. We can see it all over the net work or all over the net what they've done. Labor are traders to our country, Ben says, Will their blood be tested? Graham? Yes, all blood is tested, There's no question about that. Australa Post. This is regarding voting and people not getting their postal votes. Australia Post is part of the problem with election materials being posted and delivered on time. Yes, that's right, but we have to find a way around it. If postal votes are to be available and voting is to be compulsory, the Australian Electric Commission, the South Australia and Electric Commission will have to find a way to get the votes out there, won't they.
01:37:56
Speaker 3: Five double A Mornings with Graham, Goodings, good.
01:37:59
Speaker 1: Morning you, Thanks for tuning in at twenty eight to twelve. A little bit later on, we'll have a chat with Stacy Lee what she's got on a program this afternoon. I'm going to talk to you about a book now. It's called Touching the Sky by Deborah Lourie. And this takes me back to the era of the fifties young boys when they're asked what do you want to be? When you're grabbing and say, I want to be a soldier. I want to be a fireman, I believe, a butcher, or a doctor. For girls, what do you want to be, Oh, I want to be a nurse, or a shop assistant or an airline hostess. This is an era when Deborah Laurie grew up, and the story of a book, Touching the Sky is how she became a pilot. Deborah, good morning to you.
01:38:37
Speaker 24: Good morning Graham.
01:38:39
Speaker 1: How difficult was it when you first said I'm going to fly a plane. I want to be a pilot.
01:38:44
Speaker 24: Well, it wasn't all that difficult until I wanted to become an airline pilot. And in those days there were no women airline pilots. And I was told in no uncertain terms that I was ahead of my time. And just give up on that idea altogether.
01:39:03
Speaker 1: So yeah, what were they sort of saying that, you know, because you're a woman, you just can't do the job.
01:39:09
Speaker 24: They Well, later on in court there was claims made that women weren't strong enough, that they would panic at certain times the month, that they couldn't handle emergencies, a whole range of arguments, including that they would run off and have several children and be very cost the company a lot of money.
01:39:33
Speaker 1: In that respect, you mentioned that aspect of you know, you wouldn't have the strength. I don't know what sense you mean that. And but I remember talking to someone, and this is going back quite a few years, and someone said to me, you couldn't have a woman flying a plane. I mean, how could you get a seven four seven into the sky? And I said, at the time, I don't know. There's too many men that could lift the seven four seven into the sky. It's not about physical strength, no.
01:39:59
Speaker 24: No, it's not. In the older model airplanes, there was a thing when the hydraulics failed, you might need a little bit of extra grunt, but it was nothing that you know, a fit woman couldn't handle. Anyway. I think there was one thing said to me one time, which really sort of explained how they were thinking. And they just said that flying those big jets was a discipline that only men could understand.
01:40:27
Speaker 1: It's hard to believe in this day and age, isn't it. I mean that you had to take a company to court to get what you wanted.
01:40:35
Speaker 24: Yes, it is, but that's the way it was back then.
01:40:38
Speaker 1: So was that a long and involved process? Was it? With Handset? Your battle?
01:40:42
Speaker 3: Ah?
01:40:42
Speaker 24: Yes, with Ansett Airlines. That battle went for over a year and ended up in the High Court of Australia.
01:40:50
Speaker 1: So how did the High Court finally rule in your favor?
01:40:54
Speaker 24: The High Court was presided over by six judges and they ruled in four to two in my favor. And that meant the Equal Opportunity Board the law. The orders that the Equal Opportunity Board had passed down were now I had to be upheld. And one of those was that I was to be employed on the next pilot training intake with Antset.
01:41:18
Speaker 1: So when you got to fly with Antsets, how were you considered by your peers? Did they accept you?
01:41:26
Speaker 24: When I started flying? There? You go into a ground school for several weeks and all of the ground instructors were very supportive of me, and later on the younger pilots were very supportive, and as were the cabin crew. It was just the older ones which who were not so friendly towards me. Let's put it that way.
01:41:53
Speaker 1: The book has got many humorous moments, at times quite shocking moments. Would you you like to share one of the stories might be one of the more humorous incidents that occurred and in your time as a pilot, Uh.
01:42:07
Speaker 24: One of the more one of the more humorous ones. You mean in terms of being male chauvinistic behavior. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well one was I was flying from Sydney and Melbourne to Perth, sorry, and we didn't have water bottles in the flight deck in those days, and I was thinking maybe the crew are a little bit thirsty, so that I would ask for the cabin crew to bring some water to the flight deck. The captain insisted that he was didn't need any water, that he was fine, and I reached up to push the cabin attendant call button, and to which he took. He was disgusted by this, that I should do this without his permission, and he told me and no uncertain terms, that I was to ask permission before I touched anything like that, which is quite ridiculous.
01:43:07
Speaker 1: Do you think that was just because you were a woman?
01:43:10
Speaker 11: Oh?
01:43:10
Speaker 24: Absolutely, yes, yeah, yeah. He didn't know how to handle women at all. He was a single guy, you know, and I don't think he'd ever been married, so I don't know that he was all that good with women. He certainly wasn't good with one of them flying in his flight deck. I can tell you.
01:43:28
Speaker 1: You're obviously a groundbreaker. But how long was it before the male pilot just came to accept you as another pilot and not worry about what sex you were.
01:43:39
Speaker 24: It probably took about four years because I can sort of identify that point because every year, the pilots and flight engineers had an annual dinner to honor the retirees for that year, and it was a strictly male only event. And after I've been in the company for four years, I actually received an invitation because they considered me to be one of them. That's a marker.
01:44:09
Speaker 1: Yes, do you see yourself as a trailblazer and a groundbreaker because they're obviously now way more female pilots working for airlines?
01:44:18
Speaker 24: Yeah, well there are, and that's how I'm referred to as I never saw myself like that when I was at the time, but that's how I'm referred to these days. So, yeah, a lot of women have followed in my footsteps, which is fantastic.
01:44:33
Speaker 1: What's your favorite jet to fly?
01:44:37
Speaker 24: I'd have there's a couple, but nostalgic nostalgic wise, I'd say the Boeing seven to seven. Yeah, and the other favorite was the Airbus A three thirty.
01:44:49
Speaker 1: Right in the time that you've flown, you've would have seen dramatic changes in the quality and standard of aircraft.
01:44:57
Speaker 24: Oh yes, yes, yeah, a lot of changes in many, many things, and I sort of allude to some of those throughout the book. But yeah, there's a lot been changes in technology, but also other changes. When I first started, we didn't have any male cabin crew, for example, and also there were no females on the air traffic control frequencies. That's all changed now. We even have women refueling aircraft and all sorts of things and fixing them doing everything.
01:45:28
Speaker 1: You're now recognized as the world's longest flying female airline pilot. What keeps your passion up and what keeps you flying?
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Speaker 24: Just just being able to get airborne and you escape the earth so to speak, and have that little bit of freedom for a little while. It's just really magical.
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Speaker 1: I believe you've been inducted into the Australian Aviation Hall of Fame. That must make you feel pretty proud.
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Speaker 24: Yes, that's I'm very proud of that. Yeah, sitting there in with surregulal lansets yea, at least where our photos aren't next to each other. So that's okay.
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Speaker 1: It's a very interesting, fascinating, humorous and enlightening book. What would you expect or what would you want people to take out of the book?
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Speaker 6: Oh?
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Speaker 24: I think my son's who my son who wrote the forward. He actually describes it really well. I think if anyone's thinking that they something's beyond their reach or they can't achieve something, that's probably an inspirational book for that type of thing. But there's many there's probably many many things that people can take out of it. But I think Tom's forward really does describe the book best of all.
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Speaker 1: Finally, Debora, if you could go back and give your younger self a piece of advice before that High court fight, what would it be?
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Speaker 24: I actually I've been asked this question many times, and I have to say the answer is that to not to change anything and just stay naive and believe that you can do it no matter what. Because had I known what was ahead of me, I think it would have been quite daunting and maybe I wouldn't have even started. But so I think it's the case of your younger self is you never know what's around the corner, and just to stay positive.
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Speaker 1: Fantastic advice, Deborah. Great to chat today. The book is called Touching the Sky, The Extraordinary Story of an Australian Trailblazer. It became the longest flying female aline pilot in the world. Deborah, thanks for your time.
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Speaker 24: Great to chat, Thanks Graham, thank you.
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Speaker 1: Touching the Sky. Yeah, what an amazing story. Can you think way back then? And again I can go back to that era and there were designated roles that women perform. You know, you wouldn't talk of a woman becoming a doctor. She would consider a girl. She'd become a nurse. If you wanted to fly as a woman, a female, you would become airline hostess. You wouldn't become a pilot. There's are so many areas that were limited to men. The fact that I mean that story. I told her quite truly that somebody said you can't have women flying a plane. I mean, look at a massive seven four seven. How could a woman, you know, get a plane of that magnitude into the sky. Well, I don't think any man on the planet, if he have to do it manually, could get a plane into the sky. So what we didn't know then and Deborah had I didn't mention her age, but she has been flying for fifty years. So you can work it out for yourself. And an amazing story. What are your thought? It's eight double two three double o, DOUBLEO. A good time for you to ring if you'd like to do it right now. I'd like to hear from you. Eight double two three double oh, good morning, Graham. You expert said there was a shortage of people donating blood plasma. Australia sells blood plasma overseas. How does that work? Do I smell a rat? Do we sell plasma overseas? I have not heard of that. I know that other countries we buy plasma. We buy blood from overseas, which I find is a remarkable situation. We do not pay people to donate blood, and I would like to at some stage talk that over with life Blood. Because we are buying blood and blood platelets and blood plasma from overseas and paying for it. Why don't we pay people here to donate blood? Because obviously you know what thirty three thousand was it doses of blood we need on a weekly basis. If we could pay people, we'd get more donors eight double two to three double o double oh. On Thursday. In fact, Sam reminds me we will be doing an expert from the United States about blood donation and paying for blood donations. But I think it's a fair thing to say, why do we not And I know Lifeblood does have a strong feeling about not paying for donors, that people should donate and donate give blood as a donation, not to be paid for. But I mean, if it was police correctly, and the fact that I mean the story goes that people will donate blood one week and then go back and if they're getting paid for it, and donate on a more often basis than they should. I think it's what every three months is supposed to give blood. But that can be policed, that can be poleased eight double two three double o double oh. Is the number back shortly.
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Speaker 3: Five double A Mornings with Gram Goodings thirty.
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Speaker 1: Minutes to midday, five double A. On this Monday, I keep looking out the window and it's really overcast and a sort of thing, Oh, we're heading towards winter, aren't we. But twenty four degrees cloud clearing today and then the week ahead. Trust me, it's going to be fantastic. Mostly Sunday Tomorrow twenty eight. Wednesday partny, cloudy twenty six, Thursday sunny twenty eight, Friday mostly Sunday twenty eight degree. So going. It's the trend of April. Although April is usually a pretty fine damn month. We don't usually average temperatures in the mid to high twenties. So enjoy it why you can, because it will be gone before you know it. Your calls eight double two three to raise Good morning.
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Speaker 25: Good morning, Graham.
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Speaker 1: What would you like to talk about?
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Speaker 25: Yeah, the blood that we you know, we purchased blood from ost seas. I have a medical disorder that's quite common where you have to actually donate blood. You've got no choice about it. You have to have been a section, sometimes every three months, sometimes every eight weeks. It depends on your levels many years ago. It used to go to the Red Cross and donate there because and it got used. So the blood is okay to use. It's a disorder called himochromatosis, and you have to actually get seen a sections or give blood. They made it and but then the results they have to measure what your levels are. And Red Corosts used to do the tests. They made it so difficult in the end when it's nationalized that lots of people left.
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Speaker 1: Is that right?
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Speaker 25: So this blood that we go through through you know, a private sector, it's just run away and it breaks my heart. So it was just made so difficult through the Red Cross. So there's whole hundreds of people self to people with this disorder. So maybe they need to reach out to those people with this disorder who are going to private clinics because it made it so difficult in Red Cross.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, Terrey's things will bring that through our attention. We'll certainly look into that. I mean, look, I just think it's time done. As we're paid to donate blood and plasma if we're buying it from overseas, and it just doesn't make any sense at all, and if we were altruistic to say that you know you should never play for pay for blood. Why we are paying for it? The nation is paying for it and we're buying it from overseas when the money could be spent here. I mean, people might benefit by just donating their blood every few months. A few extra dollars would help. God I Graham. It's a deliberate dumbing down of young Australians. This was deliberately done in the USA after the jfk assassination. Sinis to people in all Western countries are enforcing this is part of the new world order by twenty thirty. Okay, Debbie says, what do we expect when this generation think TikTok is a solid source for news. That shows just how dumb they are. I also didn't receive a postal vote. I rang the Electric Commission and they said, don't worry. You asked for a postal vote, so you won't receive a fine. Not the point I wanted to vote. Yeah, and that is it, isn't it. I mean there is a breakdown in the system. We have compulsory voting. You know, you have to vote or you want to vote anyway, and you need a postal vote and for whatever reason it doesn't turn up, So the Electrical Commission a straight at post need to get together and get their act together. At one o'clock this afternoon, it's Stacy Lee. Good morning, Stacy Hill Graham.
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Speaker 20: I'm good.
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Speaker 1: How are you very well? Thanks? Does this weather confuse you're looking out the window? Doesn't it look like we? Yeah, well, this is what you expect this time of year. It's sort of grade A cooling down but magnificently.
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Speaker 26: Your head well, and it's actually quite warm when you head out there. It's not cold, it's not the temperature you expect it to be when you look out the window.
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Speaker 1: And the rest of the week gets even warmer twenty eight as we get later in the week.
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Speaker 20: Hey, I'm not complaining.
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Speaker 1: As I said earlier, you know, enjoy it while you can, because all too soon will be saying, oh, fifteen degrees rain and miserable. We'll take it when we can. Absolutely, what have you got today?
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Speaker 26: Well that may have been one of the reasons why a group of men chose to go to the Glenside Park.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, story.
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Speaker 20: Over the playground.
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Speaker 26: And look, I'm not saying there's an issue with exercise groups and getting out there and enjoying some fitness together. Particularly you know, we talk about men's mental health and the stigma surrounding that. So I think it's great that young men are getting together and want to exercise together. But there's this story in the paper today for anyone who didn't see it, a group of a fitness group that Glenside. Yeah, and anyone who's been to that park at Glenside. It's on the corner of Fullerton Road and Greenhill Road. It's huge and it's it's a kid's playground and it's a big one as well. It's a really popular one and at school holidays right now. So there were quite a few kids on the playground playing with their parents and grandparents there watching along when a group of men rocked up, took their tops off, started exercising, put up signage, they drove their cars down in on an entry road and they've got signage on their cars too. So I've gone and had to look at their social media account and as you can imagine, parents and grandparents who were there at the.
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Speaker 20: Time, quite intimidating. It looks like it's a group.
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Speaker 24: Of fifteen to twenty of them that.
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Speaker 26: Would be intimidating if you're using the playground.
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Speaker 1: With your kids, it doesn't appear they got counsel approval or.
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Speaker 26: No, no, the council has said they did it. So I'll be talking about this this afternoon. And again the council's view is similar to I guess most people's when they hear this story. Great good thing to exercise, but get approval first. And a shared playground is just that, it's meant to be shared. You can't come in and take over.
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Speaker 1: And Glen's side, there's you know, adlaid park lands very close by, lots of open space, lots of area running around, even there's exercise apparatus in certain parts. Why not take that over as opposed to taking over a kids and they are kids playgrounds, it is not adult playgrounds. No, no, I don't. I think it's not acceptable.
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Speaker 26: No, no, not to take it over in that way and sort of exclude other people for using it. And whether or not they were trying to be intimidating, you can't help but look like that when it's a big group of men with shirts off, putting signs up, that's the that's the vibe, you know.
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Speaker 1: To quote, well, I was stamping out their territory effectively, yeah, yea, when they're sort of saying, yeah, we're here, this is us and you know what they're doing is fine. It was just the wrong place.
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Speaker 20: It's the wrong place, wrong time when kids are there.
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Speaker 26: So we'll be discussing that this afternoon, and as always, i'd love your thoughts on eight double two three double double Oh. We're also going to head to Sojuna, where there's been problems over the years with antisocial behavior in Sojuna, but I've been sent a bunch of videos and photos from recent weeks and it's ramping up to levels that are really extraordinary and extremely concerning. So I've got videos of fights happening in the main street, of drug paraphernalia on the foreshore, and alcohol bottles left on the foreshore if you go to the inside the public toilets that are there on the foreshore, which is right next to a playground right on the beach, it's the only public toilets in the area, and you go there in the morning. I've got photos of needles, drug paraphernalia, empty alcohol bottles, clothes strewn all over the street, videos of drug deals just happening in the main street, of Sjuna, So the anti social behavior there has really ramped up. I'll talk to a local resident who's concerned about it, and we'll get in touch with the council as well and see if they're free about what can be done about this and why is it sort of seemed to be peaking at the moment. As I say, it's ebbed and flowed over the years. There's always been a bit of an issue in Sjuna, but why is it hitting these levels now? We'll discuss that, And we're going to talk about the AFL tribunal that's up this afternoon. The appeal, the Zach Butter's appeal.
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Speaker 1: Oh, this has gone on longer than Blue Hills. It's crazy. It should have been resolved. Well, it shouldn't have even come to where it died rigently, but I mean it should have been resolved last week.
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Speaker 3: YEP.
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Speaker 26: To John Ralph about that afternoon, and I might ask him as well about the Elijah Hollands.
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Speaker 1: Which is a terrible look for football.
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Speaker 24: It's really bad look.
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Speaker 26: It's really sad for him most certainly, and I can't believe that the AFL has responded in the way they've responded. It doesn't really address anyone's concerned to try and sweep it under the rug. So I'll talk to I'll talk to that this afternoon and try and find out what can and should be done in this situation and will the AFL actually do anything this time?
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Speaker 1: Goodeen, Stacy, Thanks Graham. All that coming up and more this afternoon with Stacy Lee after the one o'clock news. Well, congratulations to Ian from Hei Marsh who called in about EA Scooters. Ian, you've won a double pass to experience the State Opera of southa Strada's production of Cinderella, ex playing four shows only at Her Majesty's Theater from May seven to sixteen. Tickets from State Opera dot com dot au. Well that's just about it for a jam pack program. Just a final word on the blood donors, Hi Graham. My daughter donated blood last week and got a message to say someone at Waler received it a few days later. Thank you, cheers V Thank you for that. And I give plasma and they tell me where it goes. My last two have gone to Brisbane. Thank you for that. Greg, have a wonderful day. Thanks for your company today. Come back tomorrow. We'll do it again.