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Hello, and welcome to Montecito. After Sun said, I'm Christy
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and I want to welcome you into a world of deception.
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You are probably here because you love podcasts, or audio
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books or soap operas. We are about to talk about
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a brand new audio soap opera called Montecito, and we
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are going behind the scenes with executive story editor Andrew
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Pemberton Fowler and creator and executive producer of Monacito Grant Rudder. Hey, guys,
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Hey Christy, Hello, Well, I want to let everybody know
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that we are going to be breaking down episode two
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of Monacito, and so if you haven't gone back and
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listen to episode one and two, make sure that you
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are do that because you are about to get spoilered.
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You're about to get all the dish on what went
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into making episode two happen. And I mean we're just
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thrust right into the action from moment one. This is
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a direct pick up from episode one and Helena throws
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Nina out. I want to know this. The dynamic between
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Helena and Nina is just so well developed. What kind
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of conversations did you guys have about what the relationship
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would be between these two women and about who they
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are and how that would affect their relationships.
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I remember talking to Andrew about this and saying, Mina
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has been in Helena's life for over a decade, at
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least thirteen years, because don't forget Mina trap ticking with
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the baby thirteen years ago. Basically, these are people who
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don't have holidays together. They can't really like the family
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has basically fallen apart. There are glimpses of that throughout
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the season, but no one's close. And they're at this
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public event and their masks are slipping. They're putting on
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a very public face for everyone. This is a big night.
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Nina calls it her big night, but we see that
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it's really a big night for the family. Helene is
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incredibly proud of her son and what this means of
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the family legacy, and not even for one night can
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they in aalog.
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Helena knows exactly who Mina is, and that's kind of
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what we see right away between them, and I think
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that's why the relationship is so interesting, because Helena never
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wants mistakes Mina for who she knows her to be
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and has known her to be for over a decade.
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And I think that I'm getting to know Mina pretty well.
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Can I just tell you, guys, how I picture her
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and see if that's how you intended. I just see
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Mina as this beautiful, very beautiful Latina women. She's maybe short,
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but she has a huge presence. And is that how
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you intended for the audience to see her or what
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does she look like in your head?
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Andrew, she's had a few iterations from the original breakdown
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that I read of Mina versus the actress. We ended
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up casting Chelsea Rendaulme, who is fantastic as Mina, and
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she completely flipped our own person option of Mina on
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our heads, and I think gave her so much more
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depth and gravitas that was on the page, but it
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just comes out in a completely different way. But I
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will say, when you do write character, Grant and I
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wrote these scripts many months ago, so sometimes you have
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one vision of a character in your head, and when
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you go back to write again, that vision stays in
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your head because that was the voice that you were writing.
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Towards, so that when an actor gets.
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It, it adds another dimension. But I will throw the
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rest of that to Grant.
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And yeah, Mia originally was European princess kind of vibes.
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She's definitely and in that version of Mina was coming
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from money. My father was a doctor, so she was
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She wasn't quite on Monte see the level, so she
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was always still trying to maintain. But it was more
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about her being this narcissist. But the more we got
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into the character, while this is not a Rag's richester
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for her at all, it's someone that audibly sounds different
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from the rest of the cast. It's more forward personality
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than other characters on the show, more forceful. There's definitely
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a lot more goal driven mindset and personality to maintain
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and to keep it to be taken seriously and they're
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going to stand up and notice. Chelsea really put that
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power behind Nina and it really just took off that
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casting that character was so key to the show because
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she has so many different dynamics with so many people,
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and she's not supposed to be someone that we root
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for or against. It's up for interpretations, So to ride
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that line was super important with who was voicing that character.
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And again I'll echo what Andrew said, Chelsea really knocked
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it out.
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Of the park.
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And somehow I am just as invested in Deacon and
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Geo's relationship to each other and their scenes, as well
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as Helena and Nina, even though they are completely different. Obviously,
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there's a lot going on between Helena and that's it's
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very tense and Deacon and Geo. You go back and
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forth between the see that it's just a whole different feel.
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All of a sudden, I'm in the room with them
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alone and it's quiet, and it's an emotional roller coaster.
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I don't know how you guys did it.
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I'm glad you picked up on that, because Geo is
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the opposite of Mina. Deacon and Mina are not a
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match for a lot of reasons, but Geo is this
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quiet more We learned that he's into holistic medicine and
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does online courses and all this stuff within the kind
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of help wellnets space. And then we've got Mina, who's
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you don't really view her as this kind of like
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meditative beach yoga girl. So it was very much the opposite,
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and there was a lot of care put into those
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scenes that you're mentioning with very delicate music. This is
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a very delicate relationship. Deacon's busying himself, does Geo need
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a blanker. Should I let fire? It's almost like fidgety,
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but we're not seeing it, we're hearing and.
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Feel his nerves.
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Yes, listen.
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Peter did a great job portraying and there's obviously a
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desperation and a longing from both of them, but especially
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from Deacon to connect to actually be himself for two seconds.
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There are also some other faults mentioned who actually exist
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in the series. We hear a may mention of Oprah,
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Harry and Meghan get name dropped, and just full disclosure
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that everyone listening. I've been with Grant a little bit
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on this journey. We are great friends. He's one of
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my favorite people in the whole world, and I'm sure
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Andrew would be too if I got to know him
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a little bit better. But I begged Grant to have
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a couple of lines in this because I knew it
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was going to be fantastic. And my line, we're the
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ones about is Oprah. Wives are Harry and Meghan here?
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But Andrew, I hear that you wanted those lines to
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end up on the cutting room floor.
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I didn't want to distract, But again, this is a
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place where real people live. We are co opting it
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of course for dramatic purposes, so it does.
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It does make sense at the end of the day.
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But those lines weren't in the original scripts. So when
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I heard I think it was the second or third
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cut of the episode and I heard your voice, I
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was like, Grant, I love this because it just adds
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that richness to audio drama that you sometimes don't get.
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Sometimes it's just two people talking.
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You may hear a little atmosphere in the background, but
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that's it. So when I heard your voice, I was like,
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oh my god, this world is real. Now it's not
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Pine Valley, it's Montecito. It's very different, very different.
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Yeah, I really wanted something pop culture related, and if
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you ask the average person, what do they know about Montecito,
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it's Harry and Megan and it's Oprah. So that was
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a way to connect with the audience on kind of
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a wink and a nod. There were some street names
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that I remember from being there and checking it out
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a couple times and spending the day, and I was like, Okay,
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this is the Golden Quadrangle, Picacco. Yeah, that's there there,
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and that's where all the big homes are.
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Well, and it just helps, like you say, make it
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so real that I feel like, next time we go
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to Monasito, I'm going to expect to run into Mina
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and then I'll probably run the other way because she
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is so intense. We actually hear her get into full
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on attack mode in episode two. Here one thing I
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was shocked to hear with her call herself suddenly out
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of nowhere, missus Deacon Granville. I was like, oh, now
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you're missus Deacon Granville. But she get cut off real
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quick in her moment of theory. There's a taser situation
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that doesn't go well for Mina, and it plays out
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so obviously. I can just picture it in my head
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as it goes down as I'm listening. But there's a
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lot of ways you guys could have gone with that.
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How did you end up.
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With the taser? It was always a taser.
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I think we did mention a gun, but the gun
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was too much, so we went back to a taser.
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But then impost it was like, how do we get
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the sound of a taser? How do we make it effective?
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So there was a lot of back and forth. Because
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you need her, you need Nina, but you also have
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to introduce Bethany. Gina you need something dramatic to happen.
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The Taser was all grant, but yeah, getting it realized
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was the harder, the hardest part of all.
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Yeah, making sure that it translated from mind to a draft,
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to an outline, to a breakdown to a script and
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then the actors do what they do and then it
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goes to post it. It's I hope that all these
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little dashes are going to make a line, and thank
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god it did. They have. Bethany Gene is looming over
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this episode. She's mentioned in the first scene with Helena
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and Mina. There's loud noise over Deacon and Geo, and
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then if you listen closely, yes, when Mina is outside
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being on that glass window and trying to get back
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into the Roman mansion, there's the noise of the helicopter
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and and then she arrives. And it was important to
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give Bethany Gina a big entrance, and that moment kicks
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off the whole feud between these two leading characters.
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Yeah, I couldn't wait to meet her just because everyone
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was talking about her.
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Right, and that's kind of soap opera one oh one.
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You never you need to withhold some characters and have
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people talk about them and then you finally meet them
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just because you need the build.
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Yeah, there's something about too much school soap entrance, like
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the figure in the dark and it's JJ is like
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Bethany Gina, like he would never expect it, like she
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just can imagine. I'm hoping the listener imagine someone maybe
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I'm Rylet, maybe who they think Bethany Gina resembles. It
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looks like stepping into kind of the light and there
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she is.
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Yes, it was an absolute pleasure to meet her and
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from us to hear Mina finally getting what was coming
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to her on that fateful evening. I do not wait
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to hear episode three. Guys, give me a little.
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Tea All three the day after.
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Yeah, that was fun to write. I really don't want
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to give too much way.
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Well that deathly Gina and Mina cross paths again and
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Mina has some choice words and that's you know, I
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imagine she's there and she's trying.
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It is so much fun to get to know these
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characters a little better from the people who created them.
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And if you out there watching have any questions for
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Grant and Andrew, please post them right down here below.
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If you're watching on YouTube, or make sure that you
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are following the Monacito Facebook page as well, you can
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throw us your questions there and we will cover them
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next time on Montecino after sunset. Thank you all so
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much for joining us. Get ready for episode three, cause
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it's goin' down and we will see you for all
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the behind the sea scoop right here the Assin
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Hello, and welcome to Montecito. After Sun said, I'm Christy
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and I want to welcome you into a world of deception.
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You are probably here because you love podcasts, or audio
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books or soap operas. We are about to talk about
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a brand new audio soap opera called Montecito, and we
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are going behind the scenes with executive story editor Andrew
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Pemberton Fowler and creator and executive producer of Monacito Grant Rudder. Hey, guys,
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Hey Christy, Hello, Well, I want to let everybody know
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that we are going to be breaking down episode two
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of Monacito, and so if you haven't gone back and
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listen to episode one and two, make sure that you
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are do that because you are about to get spoilered.
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You're about to get all the dish on what went
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into making episode two happen. And I mean we're just
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thrust right into the action from moment one. This is
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a direct pick up from episode one and Helena throws
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Nina out. I want to know this. The dynamic between
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Helena and Nina is just so well developed. What kind
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of conversations did you guys have about what the relationship
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would be between these two women and about who they
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are and how that would affect their relationships.
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I remember talking to Andrew about this and saying, Mina
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has been in Helena's life for over a decade, at
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least thirteen years, because don't forget Mina trap ticking with
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the baby thirteen years ago. Basically, these are people who
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don't have holidays together. They can't really like the family
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has basically fallen apart. There are glimpses of that throughout
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the season, but no one's close. And they're at this
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public event and their masks are slipping. They're putting on
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a very public face for everyone. This is a big night.
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Nina calls it her big night, but we see that
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it's really a big night for the family. Helene is
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incredibly proud of her son and what this means of
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the family legacy, and not even for one night can
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they in aalog.
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Helena knows exactly who Mina is, and that's kind of
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what we see right away between them, and I think
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that's why the relationship is so interesting, because Helena never
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wants mistakes Mina for who she knows her to be
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and has known her to be for over a decade.
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Can I just tell you, guys, how I picture her
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and see if that's how you intended. I just see
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Mina as this beautiful, very beautiful Latina women. She's maybe short,
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but she has a huge presence. And is that how
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you intended for the audience to see her or what
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does she look like in your head?
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Andrew, she's had a few iterations from the original breakdown
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that I read of Mina versus the actress. We ended
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up casting Chelsea Rendaulme, who is fantastic as Mina, and
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she completely flipped our own person option of Mina on
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our heads, and I think gave her so much more
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depth and gravitas that was on the page, but it
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just comes out in a completely different way. But I
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will say, when you do write character, Grant and I
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wrote these scripts many months ago, so sometimes you have
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one vision of a character in your head, and when
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you go back to write again, that vision stays in
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your head because that was the voice that you were writing.
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Towards, so that when an actor gets.
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rest of that to Grant.
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from money. My father was a doctor, so she was
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was always still trying to maintain. But it was more
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about her being this narcissist. But the more we got
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into the character, while this is not a Rag's richester
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for her at all, it's someone that audibly sounds different
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from the rest of the cast. It's more forward personality
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than other characters on the show, more forceful. There's definitely
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a lot more goal driven mindset and personality to maintain
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and to keep it to be taken seriously and they're
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going to stand up and notice. Chelsea really put that
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power behind Nina and it really just took off that
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casting that character was so key to the show because
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she has so many different dynamics with so many people,
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and she's not supposed to be someone that we root
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for or against. It's up for interpretations, So to ride
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that line was super important with who was voicing that character.
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Geo's relationship to each other and their scenes, as well
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as Helena and Nina, even though they are completely different. Obviously,
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there's a lot going on between Helena and that's it's
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very tense and Deacon and Geo. You go back and
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forth between the see that it's just a whole different feel.
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All of a sudden, I'm in the room with them
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alone and it's quiet, and it's an emotional roller coaster.
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I don't know how you guys did it.
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I'm glad you picked up on that, because Geo is
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the opposite of Mina. Deacon and Mina are not a
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match for a lot of reasons, but Geo is this
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quiet more We learned that he's into holistic medicine and
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does online courses and all this stuff within the kind
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of help wellnets space. And then we've got Mina, who's
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you don't really view her as this kind of like
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meditative beach yoga girl. So it was very much the opposite,
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and there was a lot of care put into those
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scenes that you're mentioning with very delicate music. This is
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a very delicate relationship. Deacon's busying himself, does Geo need
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a blanker. Should I let fire? It's almost like fidgety,
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but we're not seeing it, we're hearing and.
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Feel his nerves.
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Yes, listen.
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Peter did a great job portraying and there's obviously a
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desperation and a longing from both of them, but especially
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from Deacon to connect to actually be himself for two seconds.
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There are also some other faults mentioned who actually exist
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in the series. We hear a may mention of Oprah,
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Harry and Meghan get name dropped, and just full disclosure
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that everyone listening. I've been with Grant a little bit
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on this journey. We are great friends. He's one of
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my favorite people in the whole world, and I'm sure
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Andrew would be too if I got to know him
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a little bit better. But I begged Grant to have
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a couple of lines in this because I knew it
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was going to be fantastic. And my line, we're the
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ones about is Oprah. Wives are Harry and Meghan here?
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end up on the cutting room floor.
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I didn't want to distract, But again, this is a
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place where real people live. We are co opting it
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of course for dramatic purposes, so it does.
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It does make sense at the end of the day.
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But those lines weren't in the original scripts. So when
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I heard I think it was the second or third
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cut of the episode and I heard your voice, I
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was like, Grant, I love this because it just adds
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that richness to audio drama that you sometimes don't get.
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that's it. So when I heard your voice, I was like,
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oh my god, this world is real. Now it's not
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Pine Valley, it's Montecito. It's very different, very different.
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Yeah, I really wanted something pop culture related, and if
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you ask the average person, what do they know about Montecito,
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it's Harry and Megan and it's Oprah. So that was
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a way to connect with the audience on kind of
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a wink and a nod. There were some street names
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that I remember from being there and checking it out
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a couple times and spending the day, and I was like, Okay,
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this is the Golden Quadrangle, Picacco. Yeah, that's there there,
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and that's where all the big homes are.
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so real that I feel like, next time we go
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to Monasito, I'm going to expect to run into Mina
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and then I'll probably run the other way because she
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is so intense. We actually hear her get into full
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on attack mode in episode two. Here one thing I
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was shocked to hear with her call herself suddenly out
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of nowhere, missus Deacon Granville. I was like, oh, now
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you're missus Deacon Granville. But she get cut off real
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quick in her moment of theory. There's a taser situation
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that doesn't go well for Mina, and it plays out
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so obviously. I can just picture it in my head
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as it goes down as I'm listening. But there's a
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lot of ways you guys could have gone with that.
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How did you end up.
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With the taser? It was always a taser.
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I think we did mention a gun, but the gun
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was too much, so we went back to a taser.
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the sound of a taser? How do we make it effective?
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you need her, you need Nina, but you also have
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to introduce Bethany. Gina you need something dramatic to happen.
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was the harder, the hardest part of all.
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to an outline, to a breakdown to a script and
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then the actors do what they do and then it
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goes to post it. It's I hope that all these
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little dashes are going to make a line, and thank
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god it did. They have. Bethany Gene is looming over
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this episode. She's mentioned in the first scene with Helena
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and Mina. There's loud noise over Deacon and Geo, and
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then if you listen closely, yes, when Mina is outside
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being on that glass window and trying to get back
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into the Roman mansion, there's the noise of the helicopter
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and and then she arrives. And it was important to
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give Bethany Gina a big entrance, and that moment kicks
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off the whole feud between these two leading characters.
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Yeah, I couldn't wait to meet her just because everyone
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was talking about her.
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Right, and that's kind of soap opera one oh one.
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You never you need to withhold some characters and have
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people talk about them and then you finally meet them
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just because you need the build.
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Yeah, there's something about too much school soap entrance, like
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the figure in the dark and it's JJ is like
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Bethany Gina, like he would never expect it, like she
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just can imagine. I'm hoping the listener imagine someone maybe
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I'm Rylet, maybe who they think Bethany Gina resembles. It
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looks like stepping into kind of the light and there
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she is.
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from us to hear Mina finally getting what was coming
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to her on that fateful evening. I do not wait
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to hear episode three. Guys, give me a little.
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Tea All three the day after.
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Yeah, that was fun to write. I really don't want
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to give too much way.
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Well that deathly Gina and Mina cross paths again and
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Mina has some choice words and that's you know, I
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imagine she's there and she's trying.
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It is so much fun to get to know these
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characters a little better from the people who created them.
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And if you out there watching have any questions for
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Grant and Andrew, please post them right down here below.
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If you're watching on YouTube, or make sure that you
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are following the Monacito Facebook page as well, you can
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throw us your questions there and we will cover them
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next time on Montecino after sunset. Thank you all so
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much for joining us. Get ready for episode three, cause
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it's goin' down and we will see you for all
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the behind the sea scoop right here the Assin