Booktalk with Author Mollie Goins!!

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey you, yeah you with the never-ending TBR pile.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Two book besties who love talking about all things books.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you know that movie?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, I'm starting a very strong.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you know that movie and set it up?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Or it's like, she's like, I just dicked around.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm like, I'm like, I overdicked it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I dicked around a little too long.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm addicted.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was like, oh yeah, I'm going to get this sprint done real quickly and it just was like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: That took control.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought you think I was like that's right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like no, I think it's a writings It's like we're gonna blame that on pregnancy brain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's almost like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow It's good for her because no, yeah, no, I at the beginning to I'm like I don't really want to do Sprint sprints, but then it's like
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[SPEAKER_02]: We, like, write, you like walk in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I can get on board with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we are interviewing Molly Owens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, have you done podcasts before?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've done a few.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they're very fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, the really, the chaotic energy, like I can really lean into.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we love, we feed best off of chaos.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What kids are running Pharaoh also?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, so sorry if you hear something crush.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mine are upstairs watching a movie with my husband.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, lock that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, when you're in these writing, sprint and stuff, do you just like, do you read anything or do you just focus on what you're writing?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It really depends.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've tried to, I've gotten a lot better about reading in between if it's like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Kind of trying to take a break.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So like over the weekend, I will try to like be like, okay, what's the weekend?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can read on the weekend and try to like take a step back and I do think that helped.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I actually just finished last night and I'm gonna try to look at it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I can pronounce it correctly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm very sorry if I butcher the Volella by C.W.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Barn d'Or.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was really good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like mafia, it was really, really good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was really good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I finished it in one sitting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've read like my king, I've read.
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[SPEAKER_00]: some crazy stuff that I've never had a mafia.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I really enjoyed this one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I loved, I'm a big, big mood reader.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so normally when I am in these like, really intense writing sprints, I do have a hard time reading sports.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it sports is usually what I'll pick up after like when it's with my editor and stuff like that or like I'm kind of like in between that area.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So like fresh out of release that zone, but once I really get in depth into like the first draft sports kind of usually goes on the back burner.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll read like
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mafia, and I love the ice-planet barbarians.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What is one of my favorites?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so Rachel Schneider.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Metal slinger?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Really told me to read that, like, a year ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because we were talking about, like, palette cleansers, and, like, really short books.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, I had no idea what I was picking up, and I picked it up, and I was like, wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been just, like, four of them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I will binge them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're very good for one sitting and there's they are like really great palette cleansers To really get into like it's just there's something about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's your sweet treat If it's just me and I was like, I don't think I can look at these avatars the same like all seeing is I's playing a Barbie
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is so good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Besides, I was looking, because we were like, I was looking through things that we read last year because we're doing like a book recommendation podcast before this and I saw I explain it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What were you guys, I was like, hmm, isn't it time to go back and read a couple more of these?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it might be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love to reread my favorites too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Have you read all of them?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I'm on nine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You pick up the fifth one, I think is the one I'm on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the fifth one is one of my favorites because I know they're names.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really know they're order.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I am also a huge out of order reader.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So like I say nine but like I read the first nine like in a really weird order.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I look like I'm a really big out of order reader.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't just find it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know I've been trying to get her to read it, but she is less of a, that's not really her vibe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just trying to make it her vibe, you know, I will read it for the plot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will read it to read it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: it's so good because it's not usually I was I wasn't sure if it was going to be my vibe well as it is because I have this current time and not really in a big fan of season and I think that's just like the space I'm in right now and like with the stage of Wi-Fi man because I loved it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: you know, a few years ago, and it's just not really been my place, but there's an element to it where it's like also you can finish it and once it ain't Yeah, and then like you get that kind of like fantasy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's more sci-fi as opposed to fantasy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But like I didn't really think that that was going to be my current capacity because I'd always really I've been really into contemporary hard but picking it up I was like, this was refreshing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was like one, you know, again, that's sweet treat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: cozy and it's cute and it's like heartwarming isn't it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I bet really it's like her brain cannot wrap around that no it is there's something there's something about it because I can't explain it you just have to read it
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[SPEAKER_01]: literally everyone like how many people we've had a year old Julie Olivia.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She was like it's so hard forming and I'm like it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No one loves their women like these barbarians.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that was fast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when you first got into writing with Swapers, all right, what first inspired you to start writing, but it's like have you always wanted to write?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, so I can go into the deep version.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can go to edit this how you want.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a bit of a trigger warning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If we're anywhere with mental health issues.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I always wanted to be a writer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was I have been married to my husband for what we've been married for.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even remember now, but we went together since I was 15.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, that's how it all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think we're coming up on year seven, but we've been together for almost 15.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I believe now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So long time and that was always kind of like my,
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you could do anything, you know, we're talking about going to college and the rest of our lives.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You could do anything and it was like, I would always wanted to be an author.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was my dream.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that I thought I'd never be able to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so, you know, we grew up and got married, had a beautiful family.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I had thought I was really dealing with postpartum at the time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, the doctor tried to help me with that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It never got better come to find out that before it got really like life-threatening or of that tendency started, I went to a psychiatrist they were figured out I was bipolar 2 and when you give someone who's bipolar 2 anti-depressants it makes them suicidal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, my God.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We adjusted all of that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was like a year-long process.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I had my daughter, I almost passed in birth.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so it was very traumatic.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So finally, after all of that, I was healed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was back on my mental health journey.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like we were really eating strong, both mentally and physically again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And my husband just sat me down and he was like, I think you should just do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think you should just try.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you like it, then what will figure out how to do it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then we hear we are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, so was there like a specific moment where you were like, okay, like this is this is going to be my career.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I've kind of like have gotten in the groove and like this is my moment like I've made it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if I ever necessary, I feel like I've made it, but once after it was almost kind of like, you know, when you go get a tattoo and you're like, yeah, I can't stop.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like addicted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So after the first one, and it will probably after the second one, I was like, yeah, I can't stop.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't know if I can't stop, but I really love this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to get better at it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to make this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, running my own business is like embedded into my stars or that, you know, all that, so it's like, it was just really calling to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would have to say that, like, to get better, I was like really,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would like read my bitterings reviews and like really sit down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This was where the therapy came into work.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'd have to get into a correct mental space and then I would go read my reviews of being like, okay, well, you know, what was in my control and what was out of my control?
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[SPEAKER_02]: What can I fix?
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[SPEAKER_02]: What can I work on?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I took a lot of, I love to this day screenwriting classes and screenwriting podcasts.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, like, really tried to work on my craft, since coach me published, I haven't looked at my reviews to, like, see what I'm saying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I could ever look at my life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's rough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's very rough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Also on a business.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And every time I get a notification, because I own a coffee shop, and every time I get a notification that I review has been left, I'm like, I don't want to go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's hard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And now I get, I'll have tags every now and then in those, you know, but they, those are really hard because I'm not mentally prepared myself to receive that feedback.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I do sometimes will get like a little, and I'm like, I don't know if I would open that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Which is, and yeah, it's like beneficial.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, have you come across any reviews or anything like that that's actually helped to you?
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[SPEAKER_02]: in the beginning?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In the beginning, yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I would say I've never gotten one from a tag.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've only gotten them from goodreads in the beginning.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think because I knew I needed to grow and like to really work on my crap, and eventually I might fill that way again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but like I now have a better tools to learn.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So,
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[SPEAKER_02]: lightly a lot of it is I really look at it even if I do get tagged.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I go into that again, reading is subjective and was this like going back into the mental checklist of like, okay, what they're saying out of my control in my control is this an opinion or is this a repeated opinion?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because that was a big thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Looking at them in the beginning, I'm like, okay, well, everyone is saying a lot of this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's been mentioned multiple times.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I can work on that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so the Boston Blues is, that's not of the only series you've written.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Nope.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have a small town series Copic master group series.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was the first one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, and that's an always saying like part of me never would want to change anything about it But also I would change everything about it at the same time Just because I like know so much more now But they brought me here
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they're what I really solidified how much I want this, so at the same time I'm like, I don't know if I would ever change them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So for people who have only read like Randy from the Boston Blues, do you want to give a little blur about your first series?
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[SPEAKER_02]: My ester Creek series is this small town series.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It follows Re-Sisters, Winnery, Waibruly, and Wila.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, and I love to say this and again, we've discussed I am an out-of-order reader.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I highly recommend reading that book.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're like, like, that's serious.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's living it's more fun that way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You really get to see like a lot of the little Easter eggs that we're like spread in between the boats.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just think it's fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can still read it in order.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've had a lot of readers also say that I think it's fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I love when people message me and say, they've read the Boston Blues out of order.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's just who I am.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's the brand.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but it follows three sisters.
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[SPEAKER_02]: in their small town.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We have the first one is neighbors to lovers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It has your mental health rep and then the second one is disliked to love with a very tattered single guardian.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is also for anyone who has read stealing you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, feeling you and bring it all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's field all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The first one, bring it all is the second one, are my two like biggest emotional reads.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I would say.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the third one is despite it all, again, if he read the Boston Boys series, then you've met Jet and Wyleth.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They are book three in that series for a surprise baby.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He goes to his, um,
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[SPEAKER_02]: go to visit his sister.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They go to a birthday party.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Turns out it's his daughter's birthday party.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so I'm going to have to go back and read that because I love Jenna and I just haven't been back to read that yet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what I'm going to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love it in a while and you can start with them and read it backwards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: See, that one made more sense anyway, because I already know that they are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what I'm going to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I mean.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So who are some of your favorite
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[SPEAKER_02]: I truly right now, one of my favorite people in my top recommended is Marie Moravila with high sticking the heart.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think she's suspicious that it was Marie in, but she went with her full last name her hockey series.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's amazing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She also has mafia and I'm in a bit of a mafia mood.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to be picking her up real soon too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She is just so fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's an incredible person.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've loved the way she writes her characters and it gives like a very similar vibe of just like You can get a fresh drink of water.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know that feeling like you just haven't had water all day and you get your first sip
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I love recommending.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love recommending her.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love breeding her.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love her as a person.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, and I'm a big reread person.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So like the I split our fairy and theories will obviously be one of my favorites.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love Melanie Harlow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I will Melanie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So those are kind of like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: lately been my heavy on rotation, especially since I'm starting my first draft really hard era that's where we'll kind of be sticking for a minute.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So kind of going off of that what does a typical writing they look like for you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you touch on the sprinting?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I genuinely have never heard that turn before until we're just talking about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So curious about that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it look crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't have two children, two young children, so they, uh, it really depends.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They've got to be at my house.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Really, or someone's got to be helping me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't comprehend writing romance while watching Blueie at the same time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not worth it, but once they are at my house and, you know, um,
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[SPEAKER_02]: in school and daycare.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I will attempt to come in from out of this first thing in the morning.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll spend about an hour doing either like admin or like checking my notifications, getting a post up for the day and do my best.
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[SPEAKER_02]: to not pick my phone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's it always happened.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes I get it gets the best of me, but I will start doing, I go in between.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It really depends on the day of either setting a time for an hour, just like a really sitting down and I'll just write for an hour as much as I can.
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[SPEAKER_02]: or I'll break it up and do a little bit more of small increments of like 25 minutes, five off, another 25 minutes, five off, really just what I'm feeling for the day as I fully established, I'm a very big and moved person.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So sometimes it'll be like an hour and then if I write for a full hour, then I'll like take a 15 minute break or I'll like go on a walk in my neighborhood just like something a little bit longer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and then I'll eat before I go pick up my children.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then hopefully I've gotten everything written for the end of the day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't have to stay until midnight doing the rest.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So how much can you write in that time period?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you're having a productive day, like how much can come out of that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It really varies so like in the beginning is the hardest.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So sometimes it could be four hours and I've gotten like 2,000 words and it's like not really or even 1500 like it is kind of in the beginning.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a little bit more like pulling teeth towards the end of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I could probably get about
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[SPEAKER_02]: three to four, get average day, three to four thousand, which is why I like to be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to try to like burn out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I do want to get a little bit in the zone of doing a higher number in the day, so I could take weekends off a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't often, and I will say, if I go away from my, I have like a little,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, click, clacky keyboard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If I've been dropped for a coffee shop, I'm definitely doing a lot slower.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's something about the click, clacky keyboard really gets me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what made you choose baseball for a sports series?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, have you always lived baseball?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Baseball has always been my jam.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's been my sport.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like it being in this house, you know, it's a lot of times they do their football or baseball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's where you're going.
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[SPEAKER_02]: how could you not choose baseball in my opinion.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My opinion.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So whenever we sat down and I always refer as to we as me and the voices in my head, I was like, right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's always way me, the voices in my head.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I sat down and I was like, okay, here's what we're going to do moving into the next series.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I knew I wanted to
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[SPEAKER_02]: dive into Calle's character, because you also, in despite it all, meet Calle, and I love her, and you meet Adam too, and I really didn't want to write and see at all, just something wasn't really creatively smartening for me there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I was like, I want to move, I've always been an Atlanta Braves fan in the fact that I haven't event with them tomorrow, which by the time this publishes, that'll be done.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just like mind-blowing to me, I'm very excited.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it was between Atlanta and then my secret side hoe of a team that I also enjoy is the Boston Red Sox.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You gotta have a sneaky side.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to say something clear though, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So little sneaky side, and what I really dug into the concept of how I wanted this series to look, I just felt like Boston fit a little bit better than the idea of Atlanta.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know because I am, I'm in Tennessee.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was like, I've just been to Atlanta one too many times in a way, but I was like, I sure this is really going to work for me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so that's how we ended up in Boston.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I just see, I love baseball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like that it's a little bit of a slower pace.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like going to the games, you get to kind of see a lot of their personalities.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the duck out and all that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I just was like this sets up great for what I am wanting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish we had a professional baseball team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All we have, we're at Greenville, South Carolina.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So all the, like, the minor league Greenville drive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, you can get, and then minor league hockey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have all the minor leagues here and here and up, but it's a drive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a two-hour drive, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're the same, like, I'm trying to do this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we have the time to look out, we're about a two-hour drive for Atlanta as well, but that's it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We do have the predators.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have the small tunnel remains.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, would you ever write different sports romance or anything else out of our minds at all?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if I...
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[SPEAKER_02]: I always really say, like, never say the never.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I, at this current time, I don't see me riding any other sport besides baseball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: However, like in the next, which I said never baseball, but going into the next series isn't going to be sports.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be more like urban contemporary.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've got Boston just yet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a bit more of, kind of like just city.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Inspired.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just one of the biggest, like, you can't keep anything to do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's the inspiration I've been told I am allowed to say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We love it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for giving us a shout.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, in the Boston Blues, it has friends to lovers from coaches, daughter, and fake dating, and all that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is one trope you could write over and over again and over again and ever get tired of?
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[SPEAKER_00]: A friend to lovers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Friends to love.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Bye.
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[SPEAKER_02]: don't know if I could ever not have a series that doesn't have a friend still love that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is underrated in my opinion, I mean, like marriage of
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[SPEAKER_00]: love anything like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm gonna have to be the other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've come to appreciate friends still lovers and romance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm I can like reading fascies like my favorite thing and right next to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like obviously enemies lovers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like it's hard to have enemies lovers in a romance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: it is it is hard and that's it when I talk about bringing it all I'm always can't really like it's dislike to love they're not enemies they just don't really particularly go on that well um and I would romance was marketed as like dislike to love because it's very very hard to do and it's to lovers and romance and I'm like this is not enemies to lovers to me they didn't like each other but it weren't like
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is there a trope that you love to read, but you're like, you don't like to write?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, um, I have a trope that is hard for me to read, but I enjoy writing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it was, it was, I have over time with pregnancy in books, but writing it, I think is very healing because I can like control the side of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I enjoy reading it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just need, I'd like to like know about it going in beforehand that it will involve like pregnancy or like accident pregnancy just because I have had, I've had a miscarriage of between and then almost passing
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[SPEAKER_02]: both my daughter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just always.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's all sensitive.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So usually I just like to know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and have a little tell, but so I think writing it is very healing in the fact that like I can have have that control over it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's like a safety in that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love writing it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I sometimes have
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love Adam's book.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so glad to have loved Adam's book.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love Adam's book.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so off of that, which Boston Blue's couple was your hardest.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Adam and Mia.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But not because of their tropes as much as it was their personalities.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I love them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're who I would, I think everyone needs an Adam.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's just, you know, and I've got like that teddy bear husband, too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I just love everyone needs a variation of the teddy bear husband in my opinion, but they're both very type A.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was really hard for me to get into because as writing it, I'd be like, okay, well, this is what I would do in this situation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, well, I am not type A, even in the slide.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have no idea what they would do, so I'd have to call, I have like saved bookmarkings in books of like personality traits of like how people with an eningagram ate and an eningagram one With like respond to things I would call my friends that are my publicist at them many times.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, I swear this girl is not based off of you, but you're type A and I want to know what I mean what do you do?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes
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[SPEAKER_02]: And this situation because I would not respond the way that either of them did earn like how they handled it and the plans they made right away like And she's very independent.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like that was very hard from me to write as well because I'm very co-dependent So I can be very I'm very independent, but I am also like
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll just figure it out on the way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'll just figure it out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It'll be fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And just kind of like getting a list together and being organized, not I.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I'm not doing it, I'm not doing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It just leads my problem as I do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do the list.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't ever follow through with the list.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I plan it and then I'm just like, I'll just do it as I plan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm just like whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's vibing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Once I'm like, I mean, I feel really good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel accomplished.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Every day now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like a typesy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like to be a blend of both of them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I do think I can be very typesy though, as I said that because I'm like I have and I'm quite sure quick, like that's all of before I set down to do my sprint a lot of times I'll try to like really get acquainted with what I'm about to write.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So like write it all with Jots all the way down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like I'm the organization makes it to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But anytime my public says it, she's like
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, this word is not even spelled correctly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, that's not my job.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's true words ran together.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, yeah, I know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know what that's saying.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's not my job that makes it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's my job to write.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's what they say.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know it's two words meshed into one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: OK, so continuing with the couples as like you got through and written the series, like has there been a couple that surprised you and like what's happened with them?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if surprise is, I guess, surprised in the way that they came together, maybe not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I am a bit, as I say, as I really went on this tangent, I am a bit of a plotter, a little bit more of a plotting situation, so the, I would say, stealing you, beckonjints and definitely surprised me with how much their story, like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: impacted me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I never cried writing until writing their book.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I loved them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Surprise, like, professionally.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was very surprised to hit USA today with Catching Mine, because it was my hardest book to write.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that was pretty, that was astounding.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was a little similar.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't believe it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you very much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: it was insane.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so what is it about an obsessed MMC that makes him so fun to write?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because all of you're got everything on that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, it's really, I think it's the peel of just writing the perfect man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, I can say, I always tell my husband he's a 9.5 out of 10 because he's not
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[SPEAKER_02]: if you really get to lean into the tin of it all, writing, I don't know, I just think there's something about being a doored.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know that I'm heavily a doored by my husband and I love that, and so I'm like, we're heavily a doored in the Molly Girls.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not going by, hopefully.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're not that send yet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: like riding it, I love how they really melt together.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of my favorite because I
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[SPEAKER_02]: can make an argument for all of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I really love, I kind of like, I love to read a red flag in them, see, but I don't know if I fully have a red flag in them, see, but like, that's is really grumpy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But like, I love that it really kind of balances out loosey and it kind of like pushes for a little bit more.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I love that Callie is like the eight, she knows she has her ADHD.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the way that she is like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: the type, see a little bit of the chaos for a month and then it will just just like they're soft and like acts of service like I just love how they meet together but I I don't know if there's something about the yearning like that back as yeah that really a bit is don't tell don't tell the rest of them back is my favorite.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, trips of being here in our right now so we'll see I think back was my favorite
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna get to hard because Adam is very take charge.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, very very take charge.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, he is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I really do like that, too, but there's something about that, why choose, why choose, why choose?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, like, all of them for all of my personalities.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, all of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Which one do I want today?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Which one do I want today?
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is my favorite question that we ask.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is the most unhinged thing you have googled for a book?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I, this is always, it's great whenever you ask like fantasy people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What I had to do research on the penis piercing like fix piercings on honesty.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, yeah, that's why I wanted to research, try to go in there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: like, like, do this on a hidden browser.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're going to be clearing this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We don't have to lie to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I absolutely love that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was really great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a fun time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so what kind of going off of the Ryan process, what's the best part of your Ryan process?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what do you get the message to a guy out of when you're doing it again?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love editing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love editing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's my favorite part which I find often controversial when I talk to other authors, um, to think I'm describing my processes like the first draft writing from A to Z.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then like the first round of edits is like making sure that I don't miss any letters in the alphabet and then it goes to professional editing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I go back through again and then make sure that all of my like tees across and my eyes are dotted and then does another round of professional editing and then by then it just feels like a complete story and I'm just kind of like really messing with them really well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So like I can get a little bit more like nit picky towards the end but it kind of feels
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[SPEAKER_00]: Almost just reading my own story.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Look, I feel like a reader at that aspect of the time, which is, you know, the heart, I think of all authors.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's always kind of like my favorite part to kind of see them really come together.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I can do like those little nitpicky things and like see those little moments that we're like, it's just fun to see them grow this way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And because I think, you know, I'm writing today,
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I haven't wrote the beginning in weeks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm like, I don't even really remember as what's happened, but then it gets published.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, I never want to see it again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what I'm talking about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Every author says, I know, every author.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't, yeah, I think that's kind of like a o.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because at that point in time, I have read it in upwards of eight or ten times.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you ever just gone back and been editing
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[SPEAKER_02]: I will do that sometimes with chapters.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, and I haven't done that with the full book yet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Knock on wood.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So knock.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Need for this one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's open to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we met you at a meet and greet here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this asked, was it jam?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do I?
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[SPEAKER_02]: when they're too long.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was after, yes, um, what, what cons liked from an author's point of view.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, total.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, especially me in Greek, you, they're really great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're also insanely tiring.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's like, I am tiring.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You, I, I have never known such exhaustion.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think it's because, when we get there, and I say this, and I'm like, I don't mean for it to sound fake, but I think a lot of authors will say this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You really have to tap into almost like a second personality.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we just heard it's like, you're on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We are.
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[SPEAKER_02]: 100% on the entire time you can't turn it off.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have a hard time like if I turn it off I'm not getting back in it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think with I mean very cute.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They ended up ticketing me which was amazing the first time I was being ticketed and the girl was like take 15 minutes and I was like
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to I'm going to I'm going to go run to the restroom real quick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be done in five.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't let me sit down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't let me sit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I let me keep going.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If I sat down, I would not be getting back up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We were like that after just walking around until the different people and like interacting with all the authors.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we got, we sat down to eat after.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we were like, oh my god, I don't understand how they do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Every time with my assistants is like, we sit down for dinner afterwards.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Normally we'll do it after get something to stick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's just like the most silent meal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sitting inside like for awesome.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like full two hours because it also you're on like I For me personally I'm like I'm also exact exhausted, but I'm also writing a high of like Yeah, going through it so I'm not tired at all is where we get to bed You're like so that was a good day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So are you going back next year?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, I'll be there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We just got we got tickets, thankfully.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, they sold out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean I was our first book con.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'd never been very busy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know what to expect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like and she's pregnant So she was like Unless body is rejecting everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, oh, more power to you that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what are your favorite, like what's been your favorite part of a tinty book on?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like that or just book events in general.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's just really getting to talk to people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love talking to people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I feel like there's a certain element of my personality that shines through a little bit better in person as opposed to online.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So anytime I can really get that face to face.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And even like this, I like I love stuff like this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love being able to talk about these things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I feel like it just forms a better connection.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Even though I'm exhausted, I do feel like feeling very, my well has been refilled a bit at the same time, hearing how much people really love the books, what they mean to them, you know, hearing who's who's favorite, um, which is always so fun and, um, to see who relates to what character.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's I think that's probably my favorite part.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like really getting that face time, which I know sometimes it's hard That was probably the one flip side of like really getting into the ticketed part is because like I didn't want anyone to wait super long So like it was there is a bit of a balance that we have to find there which can be a little tricky to navigate But at least I get to see you Yeah, I can imagine how overwhelmed
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[SPEAKER_00]: let's be to have all of those things that you're brain at one time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're saying I'm trying to impress people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm saying like being on like, I'm a teacher at teach school and like, I'm not the same person that I am in the classroom.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's the personality coming out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: talking to so many different people within a short amount of time, like, because it is condensed at like four hours.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I can't imagine, like, that's, like, my day just cut and have, but times three.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm like, yeah, I'm sure you see everybody at the same time and get through and make sure everybody gets what they need until it is a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Does your husband come with you to these things or now he comes to some he is very excited he's coming with me to the brave tomorrow He like his job can be a little complicated so he doesn't always get to come to a lot of them So he's very excited to be joining us tomorrow, which he was like I have to go to the brave And it was like yeah, but I'll have another assistant Kelsey who will be with us to help because it's very funny.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's very supportive
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[SPEAKER_02]: But he also, he's like, I'm very well aware that like, this is not my space.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I, he's like, I really enjoy watching you work, but he'll just like stand at the end with like the ticket thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like with the payments that like that's it when he goes, it's his job to like do the payments.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, I know no one wants to talk to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm just going to let you resist it and handle everything else.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I'll just stand there and watch and it'll be great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, yeah, that's that's your role.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's stuff on it, because I always say my husband is my personality, he could talk to a brick wall for hours and meanwhile I'm like hiding, because we own our business together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like hiding in the back, baking cookies, and he's a friend talking to someone about God knows what, and I'm like, now that's
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's where we're a bit reverse.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I am if we were he's very much like that Adam.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, how do you he'll take care of it if he really needs yeah, he's like you talk and like But otherwise he'd probably just want to like
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[SPEAKER_02]: to there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is really funny because when he does sit down with like the friend group he met a Rachel over Rachel LeBurge at the last one but he likes that down at the dinner table and he was like I have tea of what's happened at the event.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And she was like, I don't know where this man came from.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, he's like, Doctor, you're off.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's very like that kind of like smogery.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But when it's the biggest, the big he's like, Yeah, I'm just staying right here and where I'm like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A little, little, little, little.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to look the whole time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're doing the beach, you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It works.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because when there's one of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so now we're gonna do a little rapid fire.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm ready.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, why not know the answer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Friends, the lovers are dysplonic to lovers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Friends to lovers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right now is like, okay, we've been through that one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, with one small town of sports romance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have to go with sports romance right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we need sports romance just as much, like between me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like lately, I read just as much sports as I do, small.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I really don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm reread Melanie Harlow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you read the small town, but otherwise, like, I'm been kind of on that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mafia.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, slightly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's a or a sports romance.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm very excited.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't read the Wendy City series yet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I decided that's my sweet treat after finishing a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's so funny because I read the Wendy City series and binged in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: like being all of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I haven't found another series that made me feel like the funny city series until the Boston Blues.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I always tell everybody that the Boston Blues made me feel what the funny city series made me feel.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so lonely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm tired.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I get it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It gets calmed to the Wendy's series a lot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I'm very excited to read it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm so sorry about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not completely done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm almost done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's my reread series.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've read it through twice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm sure it's one better fake dating.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, well, I don't know if I actually have a true one bed and that is something I'm very excited to be writing, but I'm writing fake dating right now, so we're going to go with Okay, golden retriever or morally gray That's I think at the end of the day, golden retriever, okay, okay audio book or physical book title Bye
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[SPEAKER_02]: the Kindle, if I'm doing a card ride, audio.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm the same.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't listen to the radio anymore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't listen to music anymore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just listening to the radio.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And let's like, kids are in the car and then they, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The kids are in my house.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I definitely listen to no audio because I'd read mid.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Balls are just a matter to get to like that scene.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, moment that my daughter, like we were in the Carland day, I've listened to it until recently, and she repeated a word back to me and I was like, oh, okay, we're done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're switching.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who is your favorite book boyfriend that you have not written?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ooh.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mm, oh, that's hard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, probably silence from bitter sweet memories by Catherine Amara.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, oh, I get better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I have, I was in, I spoke.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, wish me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The, the one, it's like the beauty in the base.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Reach out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it was more of a fantasy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm in her fantasy, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I'll have to read that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This change my brain, give me a treat like it's tattoo like a saying from that is tattooed on my leg like that book is one of my favorites, but I don't recommend it to everybody just because it's very angsty, very emotional.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, you're.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I gotta vibe it out before I'm like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it'd be your bad probably.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would be if I read her like I know when I read her.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have to prepare myself that I'm going to be like staring at the wall for days following.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: God.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just read it just like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I finished the last book.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was just like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's phenomenal, she didn't do no wrong in my opinion, but I'm gonna need five to 10 business days to really stare at a wall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I'm gonna have to read that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, do you have an all-time favorite for my three?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably that one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Really?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I would definitely say it would be that one, but if we're going with probably what I recommend reading the most, it's like my basis is Ignite by Melanie Marley.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I read that one by her yet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I read a few of them, but I have not read that one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I like them a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's one trope that's not as popular now, but you wish would make me come back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ooh, that's a good one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, hmm.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's tricky.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, what are your rules?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why, I think about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I'm like, I will send her a turn on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: See, me, personally.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love it, Axidel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see, like, I do not mind the next.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I see, that would normally would be my answer, but I'd just rode it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so, in my mind, I'm like, it's fresh.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, it's back because I rode it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying, that hurts.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you know what I think I might want to see a little bit more of?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I haven't, like, fully done is a second chance.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Second chance can be a little tricky sometimes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know, I consider this by at a little bit of a second chance because they're more Like a second chance to do it right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't officially do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They were on one night stand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So not like full, but I will say I that's usually on my favorite, but I just love overboard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, okay, I really liked the trip in that book like that so that's not true.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, no, I absolutely, but I think that was fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so about the wall symbol is if you could if you're memory just wiped clean and you could go back and pick up one of them for the first time
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't know what it is, there's just something about that one that I think in a way, it's because it was the book that like really like post where coach me, it was like, okay, yeah, I know I know what my tone of voice isn't ready.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know my pattern, so like it was the very first book that it was.
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[SPEAKER_02]: very solidified in that confident feeling from start to finish.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I don't know if it was that key element or I just really loved them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, without giving too much away, what can you tease us about scoring her?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ah, I...
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they're really fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have always said that I wanted to write an exes dad, but the brothers exes treating me really, really well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a trip is just a big earner and there's a lot of, just like, this what?
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're between the both of them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a little angsty.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I just, it's hanging well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: it's getting well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so excited.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so excited.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so excited.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so excited.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I decided for them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they compliment each other really well in like their personalities.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think in a way, because what they are that friends to lovers, so they, the friendship that they have, like, it's very strong, but it's not the only thing holding them back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: so that's kind of like usually with the friends, you know, and their friendship is part of that element, but there's a whole lot of other stuff that plays into their dynamic where it's like, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got a lot on our entire thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is a lot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just go it off the bat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: To me it's to me it's giving Joey and Rachel from Friends.
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[SPEAKER_02]: okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because I fully believe that they should have ended up together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think in the moment I would have not agree with you but like when I go back and watch friends again I'm like oh yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The very first time through you're like no it makes sense and then you rewatch it again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now they should have been together and that's what it's giving to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like going in love with Rachel, but Rachel has Phoebe's personality.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to market this book from now on please do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Please, you look how much I saw that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When I was trying to speak, I'm just kidding.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just imagining like literally the cafe performance of Smell Like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's all that just yeah,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, thank you so much for coming on the podcast.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much for having me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was so fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And very fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to read your night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like my questions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we will see you guys next week when we chat next time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.