Are We Being Replaced? Immigration, AI & the Future of Black Communities

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[SPEAKER_01]: So today I got a very very special guest.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's one of the leading independent cultural and political analyst there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's making all types of content that's extremely dope when I'm excited to have him on the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His name is Anthony Brian Logan aka ABL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the show, but I'm glad to have you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for having me man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good to be here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's good to have we we've been chatting for a while about making this happen so it's a finally getting the studio and get and get this rolling I'm I'm excited to get I think it's gonna be a real the episode Actually, but getting started man, so sort of people who may not be familiar or you know a lot of people Some people might stuck on the rock they don't see the the million followers subscribe as you got on YouTube Just give some brief background on who you are how you get how you how did you get into this space
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so my name, Anthony Anthony Brown Logan, everybody called me ABL.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got into this space right around 2015.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the way, the reason why I got into this is because I was on YouTube, trying to find guys that I could relate to talking about politics.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And what if I didn't anybody, I'm like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just didn't like what I was seeing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I felt like there was a need that was not being met.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I came in to meet it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's really the main thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because I'm having feelings about being conservative.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm telling my friends and family, they're not really trying to hear me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: People that surround me don't want to hear it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They don't know what's going on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm like, all right, who do I talk to?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Who do I reach out to to protect it to the next level?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's how I got to be where I am.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was the, so that's what Major started.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That doesn't make me start because I just saw, I couldn't find anybody that I could relate to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was trying to learn more about being conservative.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm like, all right, let me just learn more myself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let me just be that person for other people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And every sense of people come up to me in the streets and a man know, I grew up watching you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've been watching for years because it's like, I started in 2013 so you got to think that somebody was like 14 years old.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's old.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not a day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 24, 25.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know you was doing it that long.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: your family background, do you come from like a conservative family or well I think they're conservative by the way they behave okay but they everybody vote liberal it's like a lot of the things that I see the liberals do my family but never
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[SPEAKER_02]: They, they were never all the LGBT stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They, I think this is their family with them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, they ain't, they're not going for it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: People talking about, you know, you really are a biological man, which you identify as a woman.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That ain't really no real thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then people that are like that, we got them in our family, but it ain't like, you know, that's just that person.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not like a regular thing that happens.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So trying to make it be a thing where you educate children about that is like, no.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Normally when your uncle come around and he's dressed up, you keep your kids away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't bring the kids to the straight clean story time and be like, look, look at this man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This 40-year-old man with a beard and a very thin ghost, dancing in front of your kids.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, don't nobody do that in the black community, especially not in my family.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, written, servitive, but we just do a my opinion, and nothing against anybody's like an education.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's all, that's really the key piece.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if Norvers' education, we would just pair how we are culturally to how we are politically.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to go back specifically to build the O platform because you said you started that's a decade ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now you got over a, you got over a million subscribers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What major is a platform grow that strategy that you use?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you feel like it's relevant in 25?
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[SPEAKER_01]: For somebody that's listening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now also want to build a platform.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a really good question because I don't think the way that I grew is the way that people can grow now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because
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[SPEAKER_02]: Instagram was not the way it is now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like the whip, what we do now, we do the Doom Scrolling.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody want two minute, three minute, one minute.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got the video, it's 40 seconds long, and people are not even watching the four video, because their attention span is nowhere.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's facts.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When I came in, it was 10-minute video.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was a standard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's still the standard for some people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's funny because I'm a YouTube channel.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I saw the load shorts.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then people are like, nah man, don't put no shorts.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I want to see the 10-minute video, but they are in the minority.
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[SPEAKER_02]: More people want to see the shorts.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I would say the way I came in is different.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I came in with the 10-minute video.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I might have done one video a day now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't saying necessarily hammering with content, but yeah, I went and said, I'm a hammering with content with content.
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[SPEAKER_02]: People can kind of get tired of you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, and when I say hammering by hammering the content, I'm talking about like, if you put no five, six videos a day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, okay, that's a lot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a lot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I know guys that do that, and they can make money, but I think people might get tired of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can have a really hot trajectory with that, but you come down just as fast.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because everybody's like, all right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Once a new guy comes, we're gonna go over to him and then get our dose.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't need that from you anymore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What about monetization?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what are some things as far as like back then when you started?
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[SPEAKER_01]: To now, how long did it's first of all?
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[SPEAKER_01]: How long did it take you to get monetized?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And how was your earned money when you went to a platform?
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[SPEAKER_01]: See back then, you could get monetized right away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Leave me right away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Immediately, instantly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was making money right away like... No, watch our song, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Nah, this is before all that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: See, like when I came in,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think within the first month of making videos, I was getting money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The first month.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, probably like within the first couple of weeks, because you get monetized right away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then already had a channel from years ago, but I never put it in the morning.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think by default, the channel was already monetized.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But see what happened later was you had to go through a re-manetization process.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But how I came in nine, off the rip, you make it, it wasn't that much money.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was like, my first YouTube chat might have been like $75.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But this is just, I have zero subscribers from zero to that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: To me, that was a lot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Was you working like a job been or anything like that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: As a good question, so before this, I was a graphic designer, so I'm employed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I did that from 2007 to 2018.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you see it's a little bit over land.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I started in 2015 and then I'm still designing
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, then you start, then I start.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What made you, I just couldn't, it was just too busy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm doing too much.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I couldn't balance both.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then at the same time, the graphic design waiting the same thing anymore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That kind of was going away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When I came in the graphic design in 2007, it is old man, shape it, say, cloud.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But when I came in, you had to, like, let's say cutting out a picture from a background.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You could do the now, push it with a button, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, put back, then you had to draw it with a pin on your own computer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I took it to my mouse and put individual points around the picture to cut it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm like, 15 minutes, and you're doing that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So let's say I do a club fly, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know how the club fly is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe you're doing the front or girl in the back or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It take me a lot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's two hours hours hours.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and I'm doing three flyers a day at that time That's so would you now?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Would you say it's easier to grow a brand now or back then?
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[SPEAKER_02]: See, that's a two-part question.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's easier.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's simple.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The steps are simpler But it's harder because it's a simpler.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's it's so many It's because it's in everybody everybody got to use some channel everybody got a
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, even just five years ago when I started like, when I started to podcast, it was podcast and it was like, only a handful of people that I like knew that had them now and everybody has it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it seems like, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like it's more difficult to agree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's more difficult because everybody's doing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody's doing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like low into magnified and get it big.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's harder to grow, but it's easier to do the steps to grow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All things you got to do, producing videos, editing, all of that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The things you have to do in the background, that's simpler.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the ability to blow up and get attention in the charter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think somebody, let's say somebody think about it, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think they should have mastered or become an extremely knowledge bonus type of like you, you would just, you know, cultural things and politics.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How long were you in that space mentally before you was like, I feel comfortable enough to speak on this?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of always was like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Even when I was young, I was like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Really?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because, okay, I got a family history.
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[SPEAKER_02]: See, my granddad was, he knew the first Black Governor of Virginia Douglas Wouter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Really?
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[SPEAKER_02]: He got appointed to a four-year term on the actual board of Virginia, like the state government.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and my dad was really involved in politics.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So right when I said I was gonna do my channel, my dad would give me quizzes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was like, y'all, who's the house minority with?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Who's the speaker at the house?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So he would try to get me into that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I knew a little bit, but I didn't know a lot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I had to get educated.
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[SPEAKER_02]: more and more as I progressed into it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because you know, your dad knew these kind of things that people was probably pushing on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, especially being in black conservators.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to get it from every.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, what would you say is the reaction come from when you started to now?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think there's a big, because like, you know, you could kind of be in a bubble where you could think the shift is bigger than what it is because you went that bubble.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But is it, do you,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's legit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The shift from more black people to come and conserve it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a big shift.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, sure, because when I first came out, it was nobody like me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Nobody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I believe it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to say nobody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It might have been two guys literally.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm talking about like for work not even exaggerating two guys on YouTube.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Black guys, I was conservative.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because right when I came out, this was before Ken and so on and so on and so on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This was like, we came out kind of at the same time, but I was out a little bit before them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it was really early.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't really a kind of thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And now it's like, kind of regular.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So now it's not really your big shock and you see you black conservative, really.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is not, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, these are not to me, it's not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's so, and it's so interesting because back then, this is what I say around 2015, 2016.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, if you were conservative, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: People are kind of, they assumed that you were always that way, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm, I'm bringing this up because my wife sees a joke all the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She, like, remember when I first met you, you was a super radical, like, you was off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dr. Umar, but you know, as you growing age, you become, I remember, um, my deployment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I went wrong.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That kind of changed my life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of safe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the foundation to where I'm seeing the world now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, oh, it's not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because you can, you can be told when you see it with your own two eyes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, man, America is not, I'm the author of the mindset, and this might be shocking to my viewers because I've never talked about this before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was under mindset like, you know, I'm an American, I'm a press, that's a black man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't overseas, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, bro, we don't even know what that is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That changed everything for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was like the beginning point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then there was other things in my life happening, you know, just maturing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But so I'm always interested in knowing, like, whether like when I'm me somebody's a server, like, were you always like this or your family like this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because that's her in the point that's different for everybody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, see me, I was always into political stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think culturally I was always conservative.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When I was younger, I was radical too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was radical because I'm young.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't really understand.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But as I got to be like in my late 20s, that's when it kind of happened.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to say,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got a story, so the first Obama term is 2008.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a graphic designer, we have an office with a bunch of employees and people had their own little businesses, so in clients, we had a big party, might have been 50 to 100 of us, people were crying, it was a big thing, yeah, it was crazy, but that kind of we're off in 2012, like really 2011, because the economy was a little bit different, and we would be expected.
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[SPEAKER_02]: but a friend of mine went bankrupt, rock, chapter 11 during that time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I believe it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: People were calling me asking the deadhead that I haven't even worked for him because it was just really rough at that time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, wait a minute, what's going on with this guy we got an office like, that really started to make me think about my political stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then when I started to think about that and looking to it, it matched my cultural ideology already.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it just made sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think, because oftentimes, I remember hearing this a lot when I was younger, it was like, whether it's red or blue, no matter what's going on, I'm a, it don't matter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It don't impact us as black.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Be as a speaker, as black laborers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what is your thoughts on that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Does politics affect?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Real people in real time when it comes to the economy because a lot of people don't they think they think it doesn't matter It's very important.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean my my biggest thing with this recent and recent election was immigration the migrant crisis Right because that right there I mean they brought in so many people and all that they did was suppress wages because they're trying to bring back slavery That's the idea I mean because it's not the same way they did it with us where they had the chains and whips and plantations
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[SPEAKER_02]: paid labor force that can be easily exploited in the abused because a lot of these migrants come over here and get abused.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They get, you know, you get ice that come in and find horrendous conditions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then you just see where they had the kids working on the weed farm in California, children, kids.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm talking about like 13 like not even enough to work, but on the weed farm picking weed is like, is that's what is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is that what, is that what we're doing?
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[SPEAKER_02]: We get kids.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Harvesting marijuana drugs for real.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like what do we
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[SPEAKER_02]: That kind of thing right there really impacts us because with the truckers a lot of truckers tell me another truck and shortage But they bring in their audits of legal aliens because they want to drive down the cost
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the only thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then when you get them out of here, all of a sudden, you got to pay truckers more money.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I put out a video, was a black dude talking about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was like, thank you Donald Trump.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know about him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying he's not a racist, but what he did with the CDL, you got to speak English to have you see the L. That's going to impact Americans because- Yeah, Trump didn't do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right here above the.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you got to speak English to have you see the L. So now you can't get all these illegal aliens coming in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They don't speak it knowingly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Joe, that's I didn't know that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hear about it, but that's I mean, because these things that are recklessly, how I see they directly impact like the black community of the world, because we the most economically disenfranchised, we have the lowest income, the lowest wealth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like these jobs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: we need to begin that more than anybody in the view, you know, you can overlook or misplaced.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But a lot of people don't think they don't even think that's a barrier.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They think that's like a conspiracy, like in this placement thing and all that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But hearing it from that point of view does very interesting, bro.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like people didn't really understand what we really do as far as working in this country as black people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They don't really get it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like my next, my neighborhood street has a long-care service.
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[SPEAKER_02]: got a nice beautiful house, wife and kids, like black dude, you know, and it's not just it's not a thing like trying to attack Mexicans or anybody like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's all about American.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you get people that cheer legally, Mexican American, black American, whatever we're here legally, we need to be the ones who are the focus of these jobs, of real work.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If we're not doing the real work and real lie upon everybody else, we're not going to be able to do opposite country.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think A.R.
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[SPEAKER_01]: comes in the place where all it is?
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[SPEAKER_02]: AI is overrated and it's a bubble.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, overrated.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It can't do everything they say it does, or it can't do anything they say that it can do for the cost they think that it can do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So for example, they got all these AI agents and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of things that are being sold, a lot of these products are being sold at a severe loss.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's not going to actually go down in price and reality.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So what's going to happen is, when you get to real cost of what somebody's AI things do, it'd be the equivalent of a human.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What about future?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think, because are you speaking for AR just at the stages that right now?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm speaking about AR right now, but it's not really going to change that much in the future, because
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's the expense, so they can get the expense down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's one thing, but I don't really see the happening in the future.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're using a lot of resources right now, a lot of water, a lot of pollution going on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a lot of things they kick in the can down the road on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it was a plant out there in Memphis where there was some problems because the neighbors were like, y'all, all these streams, it's toxic.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's going to be a problem, it's a bubble.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, I can help.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, I does help.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a good two to half, but it's not as grand to y'all's in an appetite as they want to say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What role do you think, um, independent, independent media plays in all this first mainstream?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh man, that's a really good question.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So independent media, that's going to be the way for it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the way I look at mainstream media, their job is to verify if something happened.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the only thing I look to mainstream media for.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like when Charlie unfortunately was killed, okay, if the media were important something, it has to be true because if it's not, it can be true out of existence.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Literally.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, there was a, like, like, the hundred by the laptop story.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I knew that was real because New York Post put it out, Reaper Murdoch owns that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Y'all saw on Fox News.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not going to put out something that's fake.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because if he does, they're going to sue New York Post Fox.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The whole thing will go down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Everything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it'll make no sense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why would you put out something that's false like that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I knew they double quadruple and use auto resources to check it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I used them for that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But when it comes to opinion on the topic, when it comes to giving your opinion, that's going to be where we come in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because you get to real and cut rather than
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think just as a viewer, I think that for the people that own these networks, I think that's very scary to them because now it's like they don't, you know, they used to control it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They can't, that's over with.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's been done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's over with.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's over with.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because we can immediately contact our viewers instantly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's instantly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They can't, they can't do anything about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they try to put out like their own version of influencers, but they don't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not, I think you can really just create.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The youth, I think you are that, or you not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you see, because I think it kind of happened on a small scale where they started trying to basically become donor or higher influencers, what do you think about that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, when that happens, you could kind of tell.
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[SPEAKER_02]: People can tell what's going on, like, especially if
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[SPEAKER_02]: You see like a certain little label on their thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can kind of tell what's going on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, okay, you work it for X1 and Z.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And this is part of the reason why I never assigned to any kind of network or anything like that ever because I wanted my audience to know that it's coming straight for me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if it's an add or something like that, I tell you straight up what it is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I never tried to hide none.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And people appreciate the authenticity, which is what makes a good influencer a good influencer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think I have as many voices on social media does more harm than good?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, not on things, so I think it's part of the freedom of speech, because you need to hear every idea and you need to hear the opposing idea.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think what it could be is that there's two view points of the opposing idea.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's two few Conservatives out there giving their voice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a lot of the left giving their voice, but it's two few of us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So a lot of what gets hurt by most people is just the left point of view.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But they need to hear both point of view to make their mind up, whether I'm right or whether they're right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: know, being a business owner and you typically around other business owners a lot of time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And most of the business owners that I know specifically the black ones, specifically the black males, they're 90% of the time conservative, but they will never, they know they're they're following their, they never would know that because they don't care.
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[SPEAKER_01]: to put that out there and get all the flag and all that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I'm saying, it's too few of us talking.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Talking, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We filled his way, but since we don't talk, it's assumed, oh, are you guys are not conservative?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You guys are on the left.
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[SPEAKER_01]: With that being said, I want to, because I'm like, I consider myself kind of a history book because I feel like to understand how something got to where it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You kind of got to understand the history.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So can you even explain how,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, wearing history did this start, because we know if you go back to the historically to the 1800s stuff, black people was big and so conservatism.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So where did it start?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just for the people that are watching the list of them, don't have the information where this shift happened, where it's 90% blue.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a great, that's a really good question.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There was, I think probably one big shift, but there were other shifts that happened.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Or was the, like, we can go all the way back to the end of slavery for 1865 or right around that time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What happened was America released a people with no education and oughting not to do which is just worked for,
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[SPEAKER_02]: white people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's all we knew at that point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not all of us, but it was a big portion of us, that's all we had as all we knew.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, then it became a matter of, okay, who's going to educate in Negro?
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[SPEAKER_02]: What's going to happen with this group?
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[SPEAKER_02]: What are we going to do?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And a lot of the people who were in charge had good ideas, like HBCUs, that was a government intervention because needed to educate it after slavery was over with.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They had good ideas, but then there were also some bad ideas.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The government assistance, government programs are the worst.
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[SPEAKER_02]: absolute worse.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think what we're seeing right now in this country is after COVID, they expanded the welfare system to general Americans and it went and strictly focused on blacks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because at one point in a lot of cities, a lot of your budget would go to war programs that would help blacks because they didn't know what to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, for instance, you have, let's say you got a housing project that's run by the city.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, how much does that cost to run
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, it's stuff like that all over the country.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And when COVID happened, it said, okay, everybody can take advantage of these resources.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What they did was it incentivized us to not work.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, and then they bring into migrants, they say, okay, Americans don't want to work, who go to migrants.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But some Americans did want to work.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it just negatively impacted us and brought us down to the lowest common denominator of the American who was incentivized not to work and the migrant who worked for next to no money slave wages.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It get, it get, it get, it get, it get real deep man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you can go back to the inner slavery.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So they did that with HBCUs and everything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're trying to figure it out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then like in the 50s, 60s, we have several rights.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then that kind of shifted us more to work the left because a lot of that was communist propaganda.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Martin Luther King, we love him, but he was trained at a school in Tennessee with others.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to say everybody's name is I'm gonna forget.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But he was trained to be a communist.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of what he said coming from communism.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that MLK had the right idea.
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[SPEAKER_02]: His heart was in the right place.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Heart was in the right place, but you're getting the bunch of communist ideals and then in circumfimianism, and I'll give you a stay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you guys know, but in 1960, 80% of black Americans were married before they had children.
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[SPEAKER_02]: 1960, 80% of us were in married two parent households.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, we're at about 75% single parent households since 2025.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 80% Mary households to 75% single.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the terminal point was overwrites because all the welfare benefits it excluded the man and it's incentivized to not be there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, we'll give you this money from the government, but you can't have a man living here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we do, and they go and they started doing home inspections, they've been going to your house.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, you got Tim and the boots on the ground and stuff like this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a man here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you know, make it the money.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So what they did was forced a man out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then here comes drugs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here comes crack.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The cracker.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I lived through the cracker.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When the crack came, then the men who were pushed out of the home because of the incentivized program from the government.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then here comes Craig, okay, now you might get on that or die in the process of trying to sell it or you get locked up for a long time because you were engaged in the violence.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like I said, this could be a three hour conversation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did the tweet earlier on, we're not this week last week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, I don't think most people realize that since the 1800s, begin on 1900s, most movements, even although many of them start were good intentions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking about right-left, religious, most of these movements get infiltrated by outside entities.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and they get they'll be their donors and they get taken advantage of and after like when I learned that like those are another thing that was like a turn to point point because now I'm like I'm being manipulated mentally like these thoughts that I'm having they're not even of my own right so but it's that's the thing that after like
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, many of us, we just aren't aware of, you know, like I said, it get real, like, even going like you said, going back to MLK, it get real, it get real deep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It get real, it get real deep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I wanted to ask you about capitalism for a second, because I still see today, many people, like, and I only use the word, hey, but I have a great dislike when I see black people being anti-capitalist.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, it grind my gears for you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think about them?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And why do you think that is?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that a lot of us are anti-capitalists because we've been incentivized by the government to do nothing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because capitalism is all about working and then being paid being compensated for your work.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So why be anybody being against it is because you don't want to work.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You want to get handouts.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You want to get things from the government.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You fully deserve reparations.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I understand people with that money, but I'm like, people being having that conversation for a long time, long as I've been living.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'd be 41 in 20 seconds.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's been the constant conversation, it's like, your whole life will pass you by without having it happen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it was like, what are you going to do right now?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right now today, you can go work right now today, especially since some of the Americans don't want to work.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Man, look, if I'm 21 years old right now, you could be in the hood.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Look, I got a pressure washer recently for like $600.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Top of the line, pressure washer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can go do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And just, I can make a killing off of just doing that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: People that don't want to watch the driveway or whatever, you could do so much in this country but you have to go out there and work.
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[SPEAKER_02]: To be focused on trying to get something from the government at check from the white man, you're not going to ever succeed like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think about this kind of like a segment about masculinity?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think there's a world on masculinity in America?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a really good question.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that,
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[SPEAKER_02]: masculinity has been in many ways marginalized.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that true masculine people are kind of pushed to the side.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the LGBT agenda has taken over everything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like television, it's a lot of propaganda in my opinion and I feel like and shout out to the LGBT whatever okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think they recruit through their music, the television, everything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When I was younger, the themes that we see on television, open nudity, male, male, male kissing, it's disgusting, really what I see on TV nine days.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I try to watch Netflix.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't watch TV, by the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't watch TV either, really.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And and watch it probably in the past 15, 20 years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But like, I never seen Game of Thrones, I never seen any of that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: People talking about certain, I would like, what's that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I never seen any of these.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I try to watch Netflix once I'm like, okay, let's turn on Netflix, see what they got going on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I got friends, I got Netflix, I like them happy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You could take it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I turn it on one day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was this show called Sam and I think it was called.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sam man, Sam man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Something like that, I forget it's actually what this either was.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it was like some type of high fantasy angels demons on, okay, let's see what's going on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I didn't know where the main character puts on a dress in is in a club dancing the draft performance.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, what is this?
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[SPEAKER_02]: How do you go from angels and demons, dreams, nightmares, the drake?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So drake?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that also here's something else.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That kind of content is there because a lot of people want it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That is true.
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[SPEAKER_02]: People want it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But unfortunately, that percentage of the population is being given the platform that shouldn't be as big.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You have a niche fetish that shouldn't be shown to the entire populist.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because then it's called.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Dr. Nation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What is it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What are your thoughts on the gender wars?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think that's a real thing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think it's just something that's seen online?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is this something that's happening in real life?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's your thoughts on that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can talk about that for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: First of all, I knew Kevin St. Louis.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We did like a show that got the back end 2017.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We used to be, it's time to illustrate dude Jackson, if you watch him, it's time to hit him, he had Sunday rumbles.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we had everybody, we had Oshay in there, me, out from Nell Strategies, angry man, the list goes on, Phil, and Vashow, everybody was in there, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we have these discussions, and a lot of what we talked about Kevin we're talking about when he really blew up and became who he was.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think what's happening is,
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[SPEAKER_02]: specifically in the black community, the women are better than for resources when it comes to the men, meaning there's not enough men that they want that match where they yet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think Steve Harvey said that he might got a little bit of flat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He said that black women are doing better than black men.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was halfway right but not all the way right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He needed to go a little bit deeper.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The average black woman just walking around is probably doing better than her counterpart walking around.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But there are so many more black
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[SPEAKER_02]: who are doing better than all of them that we still end up doing better when you look at the collective.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But for the average woman, they're not finding that average person that is on their same level.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But and then they don't want to and so that's it's a tale of all this time, really.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They go on for that top 10% because that's better than the guy that's right here and all the other one move on them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of what's happening.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So they're better than for resources as in the top men.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I said in the video from the 1970s, it's probably like a month ago, I said in the video, they had like a panel of black people from 1970s talking, they was random people, they wasn't celebrities anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they was discussing these topics then, discussing like why they can't get along and it's, I'm like, this is crazy because people think this stuff is like new, I'm like, they was having these conversations in the 1970s.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, this, this is, I didn't know that to recently.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, this is really on, but when you break that down, that is on, that's, that's, that's very real.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a, it's a, it's a strange thing that, because it's like, we want, especially if you're a conservative, you know, you, the center base, the foundation is family.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You want people to be a more families.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But with this clash, I'm like, I don't know if it's going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I got a high, say, though, I don't know how high it's going to be, but what's going to happen is women got a share.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Weeks share with men.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to have to happen because I'm going to tell you, here's what's going to happen and you can set your watch to it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The women who are looking for men on a level or above are not going to be able to be with their actual match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're not really going to want that usually.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So either they would just stay by themselves, just make their money, have a good life, friends, family, traveling, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They'll do that order just sharing the top man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's really it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The only other option is to do what they really don't want to do, which is be with the guy that's right at their level.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And think it, what you said, he's talking about sharing is already happening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's happening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's already, so when I hear a woman say, like, you know, me and my wife, we have this conversation several times about what you just said, that's why I started laughing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm like, it's already happened culturally.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You meet a guy, especially if you got this door well, like, you know, he might be heading 3-4-5 women already.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Y'all already shared one dude anyway.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we already got baby mama's okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, baby mama's you got two or three of them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And even if y'all not together anymore intimately, you still gonna be part of that life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's still part of...
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[SPEAKER_01]: This person's life.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you still sharing them, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So sharing it might not even be the intimate part.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It could just be his time, his presence, him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to want some of him, some of his time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm a Christian.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the Bible said in the last days, it would be seven women to one man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there you go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was written.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was written.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was written.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was written.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But this is so um, this is really like an important comment but because I've had conversations with Sarah women that may be doing well or all right for themselves.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they don't want a guy that's at nowhere near.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He could be a little lower than what they're doing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not interested in that guy at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, you know, this is insane to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But that's a funny part about feminism, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because they were like, you weren't equality.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But now they still don't want to be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't have equality back then, and they really
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[SPEAKER_02]: One thing to say the same, but from this, it came in and convinced them, hey, you should be on the same level.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Same level as me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Women instinctively don't want that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: With that being said, do you feel like it's largely negatively impacted, specifically the black community?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I think that has,
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[SPEAKER_02]: The biggest thing that impacted us was when they did the whole thing with the, you know, the welfare and the campman and the house that I think that probably was more impactful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's also an impact for the thing that hurt us, you, you in a very polarizing space.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like how do how are you staying sharp mentally?
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[SPEAKER_01]: How are you, how are you not letting it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I feel like a lot of times with you could see certain things, especially, you know, being a conservator, we could get to a point when you like, man, I don't even like people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He wouldn't be around people no more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So how do you how are you staying you know in the healthy mind stays staying sharply and and this polarizing space?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a good question.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got a lot of good friends that are on the same page of me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's that's an amazing thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I like to travel and be over here, be with you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like when I'm here, okay, I got friends and hanging out with people that I'm talking to because I talked to one of the phones.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a really important thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If I didn't have that man, I wasn't gonna go nowhere standing in the house and just let everybody do what they gotta do on the outside.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So is that simple, please?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the circle of people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Get a good circle that you can really count on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: People that are good and you're certain in your life.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you don't have that, understand that most people are not where you went.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So having that internal understanding is very important as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to talk about this because I remember what post I made.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember you and my guy, Andre Hatch was coming and it was about marriage and we all was talking about it was like legally getting married.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what was it again?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So the thing was, I don't know what your post was, but I was like, never get married.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think Andre Hatch find it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I think somebody, I think you asked me what you mean like legally and he responded he was like yes what he's saying don't do with legally and that's really the biggest thing about marriage is a legal part oh my god like hey shut up to my x-wife this is nothing against her I was married yeah shut up to her shut up to the family they're really good people really really good people but I've heard some horror stories me too luckily my divorce was cool we went to the courthouse together okay so it was an emico
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was amicable.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She was great throughout the whole process.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The family was as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: After the divorce, they invited me to a cookout and everything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So they really good people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But my story is rare.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's extremely rare.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't hurt guys getting, I'm talking about on the street, no clothes on the back, and it just be a bunch of vitriol because of the legal part.
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[SPEAKER_02]: because the woman has the ability to do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If she's scoring, if she's upset for whatever the reason, maybe he did something, maybe he did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It don't even matter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But now she has the ability to get revenge on you through the legal system.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they'll, I'm saying this, man, I'll say people go to some ugly ugly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember always tell a story when I was in the military, one of my old supervisors.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He, uh, his wife was cheating on them, why he was a police.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He found out, came home, uh,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Moved in with the new guy took all the money left him in the house with no furniture No, he said he was in the Snickers bar for dinner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just remember that key detail You know like yeah, that's he was really at the bottom of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like that because I mean and then people say Well guys regular guys shouldn't worry about one more take your money I actually used to regular guys get into worse because let's say you got Jeff Bezos right he get hit for a hundred million dollars 100 billion dollars It don't even matter he got it
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[SPEAKER_02]: But if you are a check to check, and she's usually for $5,000, you devastated.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You were in the streets.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Literally.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it seemed like a little amount of money, but look at that proportion, how much you actually have, how much do you make.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She could take a little bit from a guy that makes a little bit, it's devastating.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You take a lot from a guy that makes a lot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's nothing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what that being said, what would be your, like if you had a main piece of advice,
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[SPEAKER_01]: with a beat today, on how to deal with the world, how to build yourself, what would you say?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Focus on being the best version of you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Focus on being the best version of you, get your money, do the right thing by people, be honest with everybody you do with, especially the women.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, a lot of guys like to lie, don't do no lying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's going back for us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going back for us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of guys, so that they gotta do that, they get to do where they want it's like not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you're the best version of you, you don't have to do no lying.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So focus on yourself first.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Focus on your purpose, shout out to Amazon and focus on your purpose, focus on you and then go out there and you can have what you want.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you see as a country?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you see five years from now?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not even gonna say long 10, 20, 30.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's same like this is a pivotal, turnip point, punitive and open it's in, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, so what do you see within the next four, five years happening?
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[SPEAKER_02]: What I see is people who realize they gotta step it up, stepping it up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Young people especially, they have to just go and do more of them wet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They maybe were told they had to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of these young people, they went to go to school, they go to college, they're not really going and hard as they should.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But in the coming years, they're gonna have to go hard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's gonna be hard times, you gotta go hard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And those who cannot go hard or do not once they go, they're just far by the wayside and they'll be suffering.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think we're in the recession?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think so, but everything, I'm not going to say it doesn't matter because it does matter to people that are experiencing it, but about to what I say, if you are the best version of you and you going hard, this is still America.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it don't even really matter, like in 2008, when the crisis happened, oh, I was getting all kind of money.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like during that time, we're guys, yeah, and then Obama came in and mess it up, but
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[SPEAKER_02]: They say best to be a man because like 0809 and 10.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh man, we were getting it and then when Obama's Presidency really came into picture like 20 11.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's when it fell off for us like debris like kind of industry And we were doing night in the legal reges working working yeah
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I heard, I probably have heard people say that one before, that's really interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whether you think, if you have to say one thing was the greatest threat against American Americans right now, what would you say?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The greatest threat, that's a really good question.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, the greatest threat I would say,
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[SPEAKER_02]: and uneducated and easily manipulated populist people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Damn, I like that answer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What makes you say that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because people can easily be turned into martyrs, just like the dude that shot Charlie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was so easy just to get him already and just fill his head full of things and you go out there and do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's easy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was rude smart guy, big math.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I already had a 4.0 GPA.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Super smart guy, like an E-line.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But if thing about E-line and other people,
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're very, very smart, but when dealing with humanity, sometimes we could be able to pick tricky for them to understand how to interface.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's really good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's so funny because I know I know some people that's been around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they told me like he was a pretty cool guy, but it was like, you can, like, like you said, when people usually that smart, usually there's, well, most people would consider awkwardness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, they would say that's the archetype.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when they just kind of like in their own little bubble world, yeah, so I think I grew to answer bro, but I think it's
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[SPEAKER_01]: How can you think?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because we in the smart era, the smart phone era.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you would think that it should be hard for people to be ignorant today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it seems like it's easier.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's easier because things are easier for us to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I was saying before about how when I was a graphic designer, it was harder to do the things that it's easily done now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, when I would cut out a picture on the flyer, I got to take my my mouse and take my pencil and hit dots around the picture.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So if I do like a clear flyer, I got three people on it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's in the two hours of cutting the pictures.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But now you can do it push it for button.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But what's missing there is a skill it took for me to do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: just like with chat GPT and stuff like that, had actually write papers, long papers, research papers, with notes and everything else with no assistance, like just on workpad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that got so many tools and makes it easier so the skill that we developed from writing papers from doing research is not there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Our skills have been stunted.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that makes us less intelligent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I agree with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's man, that's how I'm going to put it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because you, like I said, you would think you would think this we would be the most informed generation, probably in human history.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it definitely, from the looks of it, it seemed like it's going backwards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, what is the fix?
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[SPEAKER_01]: How do you address something like this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if they're, especially with AI coming, you can already can tell what's real.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I can tell what's real and what's like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And these things are going to go better as time goes on, especially with the visuals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like people really won't know what the hell is going on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, man, we're in a very interesting time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I kind of just,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, as it is, I just stay in my own zone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I understand how moved out to the country.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd be low key.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd be like, because this shit is getting crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I say I ain't trying to do good, because it's like, I'm out there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just kind of chilling.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of country like right down the street.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We got cattle, like one of my neighbors like down the street got chicken to be in this front yard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No offense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It just be out on the street chilling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, that's a kind of real, that's real, that's real, yeah, that's real, like a real country vibe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you, do you have any kids?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No kids.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want kids?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what I, the reason I'm asking is I'm going to say, what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, well, how would you define legacy?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what does that mean to you?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Legacy and my opinion is the impact you love to the world, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever it is, and at your funeral or when people remember you, it's like, okay, when I spoke to him, he told me this, when I was in his presence, he helped me with that's going to be your legacy, which you did your impact on the world.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who in what do you think is directly impacting or trying to stop the conservative voice?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, go ahead, go ahead, that's it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, who are we?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Specifically in the Black community.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, you got a lot of political people because the Black community is seeing that it's the automatic vote for the Democratic Party.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So whenever they feel like we kind of questioned it, they sent somebody out to Electro, it's like Barack Obama.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they would, I remember that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Remember that, that's what that was.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then they put people out there, they do it with the entertainment, they try to bring out Cardi B, all these people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was funny watching the campaign for Common Look.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, man, what is this?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like a Beyonce concert, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And really, they've just been wanted to try to make us believe something that's not true.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They come with fanfare over substance.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They come with celebrity over substance.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, they try to do that to make us not want to vote for the other side because there are no longer in power.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They have their plan for why they want to country to run, they have their plan for how the economy and everything is going to run and when we vote differently, it kind of gets in the way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I think it's going to be them number one who are behind a lot of this and they do it in different ways, not just through television, music, movies, but also K-12 and college.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They develop, yeah, they make curriculums where all of that is in there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's how you can send your child to school bright-eyed bushie-toe and they come back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But different person.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Whole different person.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because they're being brainwashed to be that way and they come straight from the top.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you consider, uh, because I got my own thoughts on this one about the accent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Would you consider our community a matriarch?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's so loosely tied together because in a true matriarch, you have like, that was my great grandmother.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She was like the matriarch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When she was married, of course, my great grandfather, but she was still like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: the person.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was there always being a man, but he might not say too words to you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You didn't know you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how it was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how a lot of men, especially talk about that generation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't talk them much.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Nope.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He just gets straight to the action and speaking about him before we keep going.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He had a third great education in West Virginia, black man, and the 1950s and 60s coal mining in built two houses, by himself that still stands
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[SPEAKER_02]: So when people talking about, oh, what can I get?
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[SPEAKER_02]: What can they get?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, what can you do?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You could go out there and use tools.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Home Depot right there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Loads are right there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Loads are right there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_02]: People spending money on bottles and chains and cars.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How about go get a pressure washer?
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[SPEAKER_02]: How about go get some number?
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[SPEAKER_02]: How about go get a brand-neller and make something to do something?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You spoke on an education system, with like, would you think it's safe to even, like, how do somebody raise a child and having to send them to the education system?
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[SPEAKER_01]: How do they avoid this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or do they just strictly homeschool?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you do?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the more realistic option because everybody can't homeschool.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The more realistic option is where I had.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So what's that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: My dad at the time worked at the hardware store and my mom would stay at home.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We in the hood like we moved from West Virginia to here to Virginia Beach Norfolk.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My dad had a single wide trailer and we parted right in the shoulder part right in the hood.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I got my dad and I got my mom.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, when my dad was at work, my mom is doing flashcards.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is when I'm two, three years old, and then I went to like a Christian free school in the hoodie again, but yet, it's better than going over there, where he told you about LGBT and Prat month and all of that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I did the Christian free school.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Went to church, and I was younger, especially, to get educated about older people and be around him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, by the time I go to kindergarten, I'm already ready.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can count in a 10.
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[SPEAKER_02]: or 100, I can draw color, write my own name, I'm already educated before I go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I get a debriefing, I'm like, okay, you're gonna learn X, Y, and Z when you're here, but that ain't really what it is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You have to get debrief, you got to get educated before you get education.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What I love to ask, what would you say is the, for people that want to build brands, they want to build pages and grow a media company, how can these independent voices compete with these billion dollar companies?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a good question.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think what they can do is just be unique, be a unique voice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How you sound is one thing, of course.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But say fit in the lane that you really don't see being occupied by people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's how I came in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because when I came in the first 2015, it wasn't a lot of guys that was black talking about conservative issues.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In fact.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was looking for that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I was like, OK, rather than just trying to find it and being unsuccessful, I'll just be that for the next person.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that would be how you do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Final lane that's not really occupied by like going there and feeling that lane.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Identify our problem and solve the problem.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now if you wanna do things that others are doing, I understand it's gonna be very difficult.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you wanna wrap congratulations, just a thousand rappers, create it every day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a thousand rappers songs up low to every day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that is a saturated feel.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do something that's a little bit different.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, going back to the whole work piece.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you know there is videos of people
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, think about it from that point of view.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Think, think differently.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Think outside the box.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't just think, you're a favorite influence of what they're doing and copy them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Think about how you can be your own unique person.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a simple process, but that's hard for people because they see other people formula and they like, it's just be easy for me to do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But see, it's easy, but that goes back to people not doing what's necessary.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's easy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's very simple to do these things, but if it was so easy to become an influence in a successful, then everybody would do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The steps are easy to take, but it's more difficult to do that because you're getting into this actually rated market.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you can't escape that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You still got it's actually rated market.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can't escape it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So use the easier tools to get into a market as not as accurate rated, that may be a chance for success.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got two courses for you before we wrap up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The first one is how and why does conservative views positively impact specifically the Black community?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll start there, then we'll go to the next one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: conservative views positively impact the black community because first of all we are socially more conservative than we really know a lot of the things that the lift does we don't even know about we don't know about dragling story time people don't know what that is when I tell people a lot of times black people don't even know what that is so
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[SPEAKER_02]: You guys, red queens, okay, men dress as women to severe clear.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Some of these guys have been known to be sex offenders, okay, abuse and children.
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[SPEAKER_02]: These guys will go and perform in front of parents with their children, small children.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, of course, the audience mostly white.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're not even there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because we all do stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But see, that's what they're doing and that's what they promote.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So if you're on that side of the things, it's only a matter of time before it comes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It come back to you and pack you exactly and you know what there was one story About this black can of Philadelphia.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was it was crazy There was a so-called mentor or something like this white guy and he winds up being killed by the kid People are like why did he do this of the guy was an mentor But he was my lesson and
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[SPEAKER_02]: He tried to blackmail him with the pictures and videos he had.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you don't keep doing this, I'm gonna release these pictures.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The boy might have been like 15, 16 when it started.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the guy was like, in his 30s, let's probably like, they 30s.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There was a drag queen to show up, a black drag queen to show up, crying in front of the white guy's house when he got found dead.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now the black guy's drag queen had stuff on this phone that was inappropriate from children.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Of course.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you got the one dude that was molesting them in the other dude with a stuff in his phone, and that's impact in this kid in the hood, who just wanted to find somebody to help him get through what he was going through.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, mentor.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because you got a lot of vulnerable people on these communities that are impacted by that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My final question I have for you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So somebody that hear this, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And these are new concepts, new ideas, some that they never heard of.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What would you say is like things that they can read?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not nothing to convince them, but just to inform them of like different things that you may have never heard before.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a really good question.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So some good authors.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would say Milton Friedman, economics, Walter Williams.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would say, yeah, Thomas Soul, who else?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would say Reed, Booker T. Washington, up from slavery, Carter J. Wittson, his education in the Negro, I think that's his book.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm talking about?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So those are some things you can get started going.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Focus on the money part of it and then focus on the culture part of it and then then to start to kind of click.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think somebody's just yesterday said it's on TikTok.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was like, as a people, we got to stop our romanticizing with our people went through and started, you know, I'm saying living for them and living.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, being this bright light in the world and not just using that like, oh, I can't do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't calm you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, that's facts man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So many of us, we are used that what they've been through as a reason, not to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: be productive, you know what I mean, or just be like, I can't do this shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a whole, it's like I say we can, we can go two, three hours a day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to do this again, man, because this was, this was really good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But before I let you go, plug in all your stuff with people can find you, follow you on everything you got going on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Alright, so the best way to find me, you could just search on YouTube, ABL, Anthony Bryan Logan, I pop right up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, TikTok, Guatemala, Website, AnthonyBelogan.com.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That is anti-H1Y, the letter B, L-G-A-N.com.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Find me everywhere, subscribe to my stuff, hope you enjoy the content.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Funny thing, my wife wanted me to ask you this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She said, do you think America has a mental illness issue that's not being addressed?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's a great question.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a fantastic question.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of this is mental illness.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like people are
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[SPEAKER_02]: Going through some very serious things mentally and rather than just getting them help, we just plan along with it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, oh, it's fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you can identify as a pattern.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's all right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's cool.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, actually, no, you can't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, you can't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, and, you know, there needs to be more invest into that and try and fix what's going on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But also, we got to recognize what's happening.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We can't just say, nah, yeah, you, you, you, nah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's get down to the bottom of it and really address it for what it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like we got to even stop calling a lot of these things, Missile Hill and this is like calling straight the money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of stuff is just flat out the money for real.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That part, that part.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we have, you gave your social medias and all that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Y'all, I'm actually following Anthony, I'll see man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a great voice in the community, but period, not even just in the black community, period, he killing it as an independent, media person.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Y'all go tapping with all his content and everything he got going on, because he, as Y'all can see, he got a shit ton of value.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Y'all can find me on all platforms at the middle of my sense podcast as YouTube, Instagram, X, Facebook, all those things you could type in with me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would greatly appreciate it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's all I have on this episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: See you guys next episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Peace.