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Your old phone might be worth more than you think — literally. E-waste is now the world's fastest-growing waste stream, and it's sitting on gold, copper, and the exact critical raw materials we need for the energy transition.
In this episode, hosts Caitlyn Socwell, Angelica Barrios, and Said Fadyl sit down with Christine Nikander — environmental lawyer and founder of The E-Waste Column — to unpack what e-waste actually is, where it ends up, and why something containing gold can still be treated as rubbish.
We cover:
- What actually counts as e-waste (it's not just phones and laptops — think electric toothbrushes, earbuds, solar panels, and the servers behind AI and data centers)
- Why e-waste is the fastest-growing waste stream on the planet, and the pathways your device takes after you drop it off
- Critical raw materials, conflict minerals, and the human rights issues baked into electronics supply chains
- The (frankly insane) economics that make virgin mining cheaper than recovering metals we've already dug up
- Planned obsolescence, right-to-repair, and how AI and robotics are starting to change e-waste sorting and disassembly
- The one simple decision — where you drop off your dead electronics — that makes a real difference
Resources & links mentioned in this episode:
- The E-Waste Column — Christine's hub for e-waste news, a 150+ module learning hub, and an upcoming e-waste podcast launching this autumn
- Christine Nikander on LinkedIn
- Close the Gap — the digital inclusion organization referenced re: refurbished tech access in Uganda and Kenya
- HP × Mint Innovation's closed-loop recycled copper story — the "100% recycled copper laptop" example discussed in the episode
- Stockholm Resilience Centre — Planetary Boundaries — the framework referenced via Johan Rockström
- Karolinska Institute — referenced re: research on Sweden's move back to analog learning in schools
Follow Millennials Gone Circular for more conversations on circularity, waste, and building a more sustainable world. If this one changed how you look at the electronics around you, share it with the person in your life with a suspiciously large drawer of old phones.
Millennials Gone Circular is a production of The Waste Not Spot. Edited by Sara Beachy.
