S02E03: Jessica Jacoby Doesn't Pump Her Own Gas!!

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Hey, hey, hey, what's up? What's up? Welcome
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to Microdrama Doses. Welcome to MDD. I'm Marie.
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I'm James. And we have a great episode today.
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We have a super great episode, very exciting.
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We get to talk to Jessica Jacoby. Yes. We're
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going to talk about all the things we're going
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to talk about. We're gonna talk about a couple
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of hers, one coming out soon. Yes, she's got
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some exciting projects she gives us little tease
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into. We're gonna talk about Abs. She's really
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funny. She's so funny. She's so cool. Talk about
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Abs. Talk about Abs, we're gonna talk about what
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are the missing audiences in Verticals and how
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we can tailor to them. She's got a clear vision
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of what she wants to see in Verticals for the
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future and I support it. I do too. She's gonna
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bring us some presents. It's so exciting. We
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also talk about Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine
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Maxwell and it gets pretty serious. Yeah, so
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make sure you keep watching. Stay tuned. So,
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okay, you wanna do one? Let's do it. Let's do
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it. Okay, so Jessica Jacoby did... A vertical.
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Yes, she did. This is a fairy tale that I love
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to hear. And it had a name. Yes, it did. Do you
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want to guess the name? I think I know the name
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because I watched it. Do you remember the name?
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I didn't remember the name. Yeah, isn't it called
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like stealing my CEO? Great, let's do this because
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you don't know the name. Oh. Are you ready? Yeah.
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FBI agent Ava Bennett goes undercover to expose
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Adrienne Blake. powerful CEO hiding dark secrets.
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As she becomes his assistant and his lover, the
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line between duty and desire blurs, and one wrong
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move could cost her everything. I got the CEO?
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No, CEO is the middle word. Oh, my CEO a secret?
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I'm gonna give you the Olsen Twins, no? Was it
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the Olsen Twins? No, maybe it was somebody else,
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I don't know. There's a movie called The Blake.
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Full CEO House? Okay, so when two humans have
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a child, they become a? A parent trap. Oh, right.
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Okay. The CEO trap. Yes, sir. Ding, ding, ding,
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ding, ding. The CEO trap. James, your haircut
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is so good. Haley Mills. Thank you. Thank you
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very much. That was the old one. Really, really
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good. Really. Lightens up your face. Ah good
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the CEO trap. Yes starring Jessica Jacoby is
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Ava Ashley North is Charlotte and Nick retaco
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as Adrian retaco some drama shorts. Yes, and
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Very short paywall. Yeah, they really hit us
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with the paywall early in this one. I didn't
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know I thought it was I assumed we were gonna
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go a little further, but no, they thought you
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were teased enough. Teased enough, well, and
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they also hear, they told me that she gets the
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job, which that was the paywall. Am I gonna get
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this job? And they say his assistant, so. I think
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it was safe to say she was gonna get the job.
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Yeah, otherwise there'd just be like hotel room
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sex. Yeah. It is a crazy job application process
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she goes through, though. Is this what happens
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on LinkedIn now? Is this how you get a job? I
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haven't had a job in so long. Well I thought
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she was a C, like an FBI agent at first. Because
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she's like very like seductive and it looked
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like she was trying to. You read the description,
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she is an FBI agent. Oh. So your first impression
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was accurate. Okay, good, good, good, good. I
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just thought she was really eager. No, she is
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an FBI agent, all right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She
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wasn't just being a pick me. I wonder what he's
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in, Project X? Project X. So she shows up at
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this banquet gala, and she is fucking what. What,
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she looks good. She's in red dress. Red dress.
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With red lips. Pumps? I think that's like what
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work moms in the 80s wore. I gotta get my pumps
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out of my bag. I got my shoes on. I gotta put
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my pumps away. She's in the hug me pumps. So
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she shows up and then she drops her bracelet
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very intentionally. like a little too intentionally.
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Yeah, like she kind of like is like, are you
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looking at me? I'm gonna take off my bracelet
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and I'm gonna drop it and you are gonna pick
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it up. Maybe he knew it was a game. And then
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Rutako was very squinty. Yeah, he's kind of got
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that, what actor has that squintiness? There's
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like a Zani actor. The guy from Third Rock from
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the Sun? Like this? No, not an alien. No, what
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was that guy? I'm really bad at names. This is
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why I have a computer in front of me. Stewart,
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French Stewart. Oh, okay. But he's squinty and
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like a... What's going on here? We have a sexy
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woman. No, but he's, no, no, no, not sexy. He's
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doing it in a sexy way. He's going, he's going,
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I'm looking at you and now I'm looking you up
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and down. Hunter eyes. He's got hunter eyes.
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Yeah, you squint so much, we're looking at the
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distance at your prey. that you just had constantly.
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Yeah, that he's gonna pounce on. So they dance
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to Pachelbel's Canon. Yeah, he's like, can I
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have this dance? I love this song. It's literally
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Pachelbel's Canon. It's like... Okay, I was like,
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are they about to 18th Century Waltz? Or like,
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whatever? Who dances this? And they're the only
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ones dancing. No one else is dancing. No one
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else is dancing, but then they end up doing like
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a tango or something. And it switches to tango
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in the next episode, yeah. Yeah, but that's okay,
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because they realize, oh, we can't dance to that.
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So I didn't get my harpsichord with me. So then
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it's like, oh, tango, they do a little spin to
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do, and then they come real close, and he's like,
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1303, that's my hotel room, because I gon' fuck
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you. You know what to do. And so then, next scene,
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hair up, we mean business. She's on the phone.
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She's like, this might be my only chance. He
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doesn't go out in public very much. He doesn't
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go out in public, but then the first woman that
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walks in, he's like, let's bone. Yeah, maybe
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he doesn't get out much. Seems pretty easy to
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capture, actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He
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definitely is not a very smart criminal. So she's
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like, I guess I gotta go through with it. So
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she goes in, and they bootity -bangity. he goes
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down on her, which I really like. Yes. In a scene
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that would have been sexier if the lighting wasn't
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like a hospital waiting room. Yeah, that was
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bad lighting. And the music was kind of like,
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undercover agent in the bed. Gonna have some
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sex and get some secrets. Oh, I came. It was
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like, ended on like a drum. It was like, boom.
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I was like, okay, so maybe, you know, maybe take,
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even the Pachelbel's Canon I would have thought
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would be better at that than the. Yeah, it wasn't
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that sexy. It wasn't like getting me with the
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sexiness. Well, you know, it's an FBI show. It's
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true. It's more about she was doing, she had
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to do this for her mission. They told her to
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seduce him. Yeah, and then she wakes up and is
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like, he's like trying to write her a check and
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she's like, I'm not here for that. And he's like,
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power or money, that's what they do. That's why
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the women come to me. And she's like, I would
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like a job, sir. And I was like, first of all,
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don't you know? You can't sleep with somebody,
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then ask for the job. You have to just tease
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them with fellatio. It's totally insane, her
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process of wanting to get this job. Because then
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you've used your card. And what if he says no,
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which is what he does. And he literally says,
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I don't hire people who sleep their way to the
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top. Yeah. I'm like, well, what are you going
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to do now? Yeah. Well, she's undeterred. She
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is. So she's like, I'm determined. What is it?
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Tech -driven finance. You came and gave a talk
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at Wharton. Yeah, I also went to Wharton and
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I too like tech -driven finance. No question,
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FBI agent, no, so she's an FBI agent. How did
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they put all those jobs on a resume? And what
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if they check the references? Does the FBI have
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that under control? They won't do that. What
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if they do? This is a very important job. And
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then it gets routed back to the FBI servers in
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Quantico. And so they're just like, yes, of course
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they have that job. Yes, oh, right, right, right.
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They have like fake, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's
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good. Just like regular people do when they have
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their roommate be their boss in this job. Hey,
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can you be a reference for me? Hello, this is
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the last boss that James had. Well, Marie was
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incredible at coding. She was our best coder.
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Can you tell me a little bit about her process?
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I'm really busy, I'm really busy right now. We
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got a lot of things going on, so I can't really
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get into it, but trust me, she's a great hire.
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Okay, so I will call you back. When should I
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call you back to talk about Marie's process?
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I'm actually going to Poland for a couple of
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days. Oh, I'm actually gonna be in Poland tomorrow.
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Okay, I have COVID, goodbye. Oh man, oh gosh.
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So speaking of COVID, this is a tangent. I saw
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some good click bait the other day. But it was
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like Ariana Grande, Ariana Grande was going through
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this terrible illness while she was on press
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tour for Wicked 2 or whatever. And I was like,
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oh my God. And it's like, the rumors are true.
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And of course it shows like a picture of how
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thin she is or whatever. And then you scroll
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down, you're reading it, she had fucking COVID.
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I was like, that has some good click bait. I
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thought, no, I thought she had anorexia. I thought
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that was the disease. No, the article just said
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COVID. It didn't say anything about anorexia.
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Right, okay. Did it come up that she has anorexia?
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Well, that was probably her PR team getting ahead
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of that. But obviously she's anorexic. I mean,
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you take one - I don't know, I don't know. Some
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people are just thin. I think we know. I don't,
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actually. I don't like to assume until I hear
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it from her PR team. And right now, she was sick
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with COVID. I'm worried about the poor girl,
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it seems like. Yeah, no, she definitely. But
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you know, she's still all there. All 80 pounds
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of her. I think, okay, let's not talk about anorexia,
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because I don't know anything about it. Other
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than, you know, when someone looks too thin,
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they should probably eat a sandwich. Yeah. Chicken
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salad. Yeah, that sounds good. All right, let's
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get that. So, okay, so then, let's go back for
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the audience, because I don't know what I was
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talking about. Well, we were talking about the
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job application process in this movie, and how
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maybe it's running afoul of several HR departments'
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compliance regulations, I think. Right, so she,
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her resume's on his desk, and then she, or no.
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She says, like, give me a chance. And then they're
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close together in the hotel room and all of a
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sudden the largest, brightest flash goes off
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and someone's hiding in the bushes, but they
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don't notice it. They don't see that flash. And
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that person gets a picture of them about to kiss,
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but then they don't. And he's like, next time,
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try to impress me differently. And she's like,
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next time. And then he walks away and she goes,
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yes! I'm like, you're an SBA agent. You're like,
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not a school girl. But he's like, yes, he circled
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yes on my note. Yeah, I did that with do you
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like me, yes or no thing. And he said yes. Yes.
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So. She then she shows up and she tries to get
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a job and she goes to the proper channels I guess
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and she they'd have a nice shot here where it
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was like looking at the resume She's like the
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resume impressive that he takes it down and she's
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right there like oh hello I didn't see you sneak
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up on me when I was like but then she's talking
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to somebody else so he puts the resume yeah,
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it's like Ava Ava whatever and then you turn
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around but but Adrian is not interviewing Ava
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some second command or some HR guys interviewing
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yeah, but then he shows up, but then he shows
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up and he's like My turn I'll handle this interview
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private very Interesting way to interview. She's
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like he's like, so why why do you want this job?
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And she's like, honestly, I'm just here for the
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man over there the one you gotta notice Am I
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right? I'm like Basically, she's like how could
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you not notice a man like that? I'm like don't
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say that on your interview No, she's here cuz
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she wants to seduce this man and so but You know,
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vertical. You gotta let the audience know that
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you are into him. Yeah, the hiring officer's
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like, don't see a problem here. Yeah, no, sounds
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good. He's a real slut. He's a catch. Real squinty
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slut. That guy's a real squinty slut. I like
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calling guys sluts. I think we should do that.
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Absolutely. He's hella slutty. Is he the way
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he glides through the room? Nothing is sluttier
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than a man who glides gracefully through a room.
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Let's glide over here and pick up your bracelet,
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touch your hair. Oh, the other thing. Walk like
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a lumberjack. Constantly touching her chin. What
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is that about? Oh yeah, he's just like. You're
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gonna get my like. T -zone and just it's really
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not good. Grabbing the chin. He's doing a lot
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of like, and it's not like that hot either. Honestly,
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he looks like a vampire inspecting the place
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he wants to bite. Yes, or like getting a little,
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like he's gonna get some mustard and then he
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turns the head. You've got some sesame seed sauce
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here. No, is that garlic? I gotta stay away,
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I'm a vampire. And so a lot of chin touching.
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And so then she is like, and he's like, I'm gonna
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continue this interview in private. They take
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it into a private room where. She's like, just
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give me a chance. I promised I won't let you
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down. Ring, ring, ring. Oh, I'm a very important
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CEO. Let me answer my phone on speaker mode so
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that the random person I fucked last night can
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hear me. I'm a private guy. I hardly go anywhere
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in public. I'm like Vladimir Putin. I don't let
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anybody in, but I'm just going to answer this
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call. I'm worried about EMF frequencies, so I
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like to answer the phone away from my head. And
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then emergency board meeting, sir. Pictures of
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you and Ava Bennett were leaked. from the hotel.
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What Ava Bennett. I also like how he's gonna
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write her a check. He doesn't know her name.
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He's writing her a check. Yeah, he's writing
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her out to cash. To prostitute. To cash. Ms.
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Prostitute. Ms., right? I wanna be a feminist.
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Ms. Prostitute. I wanna make sure that I'm doing
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this right. Or Ms. Sex worker. I don't know which
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way. What do you prefer? Ms. is cashable. Yeah,
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okay, and then that's the paywall. Paywall no
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wait. Can you actually write checks to cash anymore?
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You say cash every week really yeah every week
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Yes, why because that's what my cleaning lady
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likes. Okay Wow I I mean she would prefer cash.
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Yeah, but I never have cash. No So I write a
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check to cash. Okay. All right, and it works.
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Oh, you can do it. That's amazing I gotta do
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that more. I wonder if you could just write a
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check to like scribble scribble. Nobody. Yeah
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No? I mean, yeah. Well, no, because I guess they
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have to either match the name or match cash.
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Hey, if anybody knows how to do check fraud,
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let us know in the comments. Catch me if you
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can! We're interested in doing some... Yeah,
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yeah, yeah, just put yourself out there by...
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Some Frank Abingale -esque check fraud, mail
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fraud. That was the same, Abingale. Yeah. All
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right, so I feel like... Let's rate it. Let's
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do it. Okay, so chemistry? Yeah, I mean, Squinty
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and Jess seem to be into each other. He's got
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very good abs. Great abs, although I will say,
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I think they were heightened in makeup. How so?
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I think that they used a little bit of airbrushing.
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No, no, no. That first shot. When he opened the
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door? Yeah. No, that's just the lighting. Kara
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knows that it's true. We both noticed it. First
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of all, I've seen a lot more abs than the two
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of you. Maybe not you, you're young. Yeah, maybe.
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I don't know. But I'm not saying he doesn't do
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sit -ups. I mean, then he's on the bed and his
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abs are still perfect. I mean, they're in great
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shape. I'm gonna go back and watch it. I'm gonna
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go back and watch it. But I think they heighten,
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I think they do use these, I hate to break it
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to the viewers, but there is a little movie magic
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in some of these abs. No lies. Hold on, let me
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turn it off so that way we don't get dinged for
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whatever. I'm gonna just wait, I'm gonna see
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it, boom. I'm not saying that these are AI abs,
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by the way. I'm not saying that these are completely
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manufactured. Not real. No, but I just, I don't
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believe it. Look, he does the work in the gym.
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You can tell. He does core work. His core looks
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good. His abs are tight. I wasn't saying they're
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not tight. I'm just saying that I think there
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was additional, there was additional. You hear
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that, Nick? James is threatened by your masculinity.
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Not threatened. He's threatened by your abs.
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He doesn't believe they're real. I think that
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there was makeup on I think actors use body makeup.
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Nope. I mean they do, but I don't think in this
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case. Let's see, squint, squint, they dance and
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now she's going to his room and he opens the
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door and here we go, I'm gonna pause on it. She's
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knocking on the door, she smiles, okay. Let's
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take a look here. This is not - Can we zoom in?
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Can we enhance? No, look. Hopefully we'll be
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able to put this in so that you guys can see
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what we're talking about. No, there is no - Let
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us know in the comments. No, no body paint. Let
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me see, let me see, let me see. Hold on, look
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again. I'm gonna pause it for you. I don't think
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you can zoom in, but here we go. I need to go
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pixel by pixel. We need to see every second of
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these ads. Nobody can see what we're doing. Look
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at this. These are not enhanced. That is just
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shadow from a halogen above light. That's paint?
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No, it's not. Yes, it is. No, it's not. No, that's
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good. That's good. I'll be right with you. All
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right, so what do you give them for as far as
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chemistry? I think it's eight, I guess, seven.
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I will say, I think more seven because it seems
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like, okay, the sex is not like for anything.
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It's like a means to an end. However, there's
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a hint. Glimpse into they could possibly be falling
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in love Yeah in that next morning when they're
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sitting there and like he kind of gives her a
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little bit like it's going to look plenty of
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touchers or chin and she's like Kind of they're
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both like, oh this might have been real and then
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it's over It's a split second. So I think that
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maybe be alluding to the fact that they're gonna
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fall in love but At the same time, the sex for
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me, it was sexy, but chemistry, it didn't seem.
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Yeah, because like, why were they doing it? I
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mean, she was like, I'm not a prostitute, but
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at the same time, she's doing this for a job.
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So in a way, she kind of is. No, she's doing
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this for an in. Yeah. for her job as an FBI agent.
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Well then we all are prostitutes. Yes, that's
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what I'm saying. Great, so who's writing me checks?
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That's what I'm wondering. Ms. Prostitute, I
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like to go by prostitute, I'm old school. Okay,
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if anybody's writing checks. Or Cash, I'm Ms.
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Cash. That's my street name. Making out to Cash.
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Ms. Cash. Ms. Cash. So, yeah, I'll go ahead and
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say seven. Okay. Okay, aesthetics. I'm sorry,
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did you see that chandelier? I did see the chandelier.
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Yes, the party seemed to be taking place in a
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hallway of a hotel, I think. Okay, those sheets
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were Satine. I could notice the thread count
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wasn't that high. It was like, not great. Teemu
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Satin sheets, I think, unfortunately. AliExpress.
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Yeah, so I'll say also maybe like a seven. Ten.
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Okay, and then clickability. Well. This is where
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it gets me because I don't really want, I'm like,
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I think they mistimed the paywall. I think that
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they should have gone a little bit deeper into
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a moment where she's about to get caught for.
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Yeah, I don't know why they revealed the, I don't
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know why they revealed like. There wasn't a lot
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of tension. There's a leaked pictures, and they're
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not even that involved. So I agree, I think the
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pictures, I mean we haven't seen the rest, so
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there could be a lot more stuff that comes out.
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We're gonna find out about Project X. What do
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you think Project X is? I don't know, maybe,
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I think it's a misunderstanding, because if he's
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gonna fall in love with her, he's a good guy.
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Yeah, it's an app that makes you extra squinty.
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It's Twitter. It's Twitter. It's Twitter. He's
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basically Elon Musk. I know X, right? X, so yeah.
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Nobody's ever gonna call it X. It's called Twitter,
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Elon. Get on board. Yeah, so dumb. So dumb. And
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that's it. Okay, so I say, I'm gonna click. I'm
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gonna say a nine. Wow. Yeah, I'm clicking. Okay.
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Because I wanna see if they really fall in love.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. That's why we're
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all here, James. That's why we're here. We wanna
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see the big L. So 14 plus nine is? 23. Oh, 23.
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Yes, the big two three. Michael Jordan. Yeah,
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Jordan. Well, we can ask Jessica when she comes,
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because she's coming. Very exciting. Get to talk
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to her. We can ask her about his squints. Let's
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see. I'm currently writing a Verdi. Let me help
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you. OK. I need a help. I need a help. So once
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a person has been kidnapped. Yes, go on, okay,
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I'm interested. It's like the midpoint reveal,
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or the midpoint twist, right? They've been kidnapped.
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After that, what can be worse, besides death?
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What's the in -between between being kidnapped
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and death? Are there any like, getcha moments?
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You can be tortured. Okay, what if also... You
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get pissed on. Oh, that's good. Yeah. and you
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get pissed on. What about? A bunch of people
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piss on you. That's not my, that's, James. He's
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funneled a whole bathroom of a bar upstairs.
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Nope, nope, she's just underneath. Yeah, a big
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shower being pissed on. Okay, so bodily fluids
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aside. What about, so then. Public humiliation.
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Can there be like a misdirect of like, she's
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kidnapped and he goes to find her, like he has
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her. excuse me, GPS coordinates or something,
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and ends up at an empty warehouse. Isn't that
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something that happens, and then the guy gets
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him, but then actually she's down the street?
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That wasn't Batman. Batman, that's where I got
00:22:12.549 --> 00:22:13.630
that. You're describing the Dark Knight. Yeah,
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yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like that. Okay, that
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can happen. Where he's like, you have to choose.
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Yes. The woman you love or, wait, was that Joker?
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Is that the Joker one? Or no, I forget who it
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was. I can't, the woman you love. Yeah, because
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I think it was. There was pain doing it. Maybe
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it was Bane. Oh yeah, I think it was Bane. With
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that voice, it was definitely Bane. It was not
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the Joker. Okay, okay, that's good. All right.
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Okay, that was my, I keep getting caught up on
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that. And I mean, I'll ask the internet. Is she
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gonna fall in love with the kidnapper? So here's
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the thing. Stockholm Syndrome style? He's an
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undercover cop. Right. And she's a former addict.
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Uh -huh. So. They are falling in love, but he's
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not really able to do anything about it because
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he's an undercover cop, and he doesn't want it
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to blow. But then he does. According to vertical
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logic, it doesn't matter at all. I know, but
00:23:05.440 --> 00:23:07.819
then he does, and then she finds out he's a secret
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billionaire, obviously. He's a secret billionaire
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undercover cop, I love it. Well, yeah, he's very,
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very wealthy. He's like, you know. That's like
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Batman. Yeah. It's basically Batman. Oh yeah,
00:23:17.519 --> 00:23:19.059
maybe I should just write Batman. Yeah, you're
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just doing Batman. All right, I need to find
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some fun things. Maybe I'll go back to Batman
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1. And here we go. Where does he get those wonderful
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toys? Yeah, yeah, that was great. Okay, cool.
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You wanna pitch something to me? Okay, so you
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were doing an undercover one. What about this?
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Hidden identity, mafia. Hidden identity, hidden
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identity. Mafia situations. So, it's a billionaire
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CEO, right? Uh -huh. Who, oh, he falls. Down
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the stairs? Yeah. He falls down the stairs? Yeah.
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And breaks his neck? No. Okay. Hits his head
00:24:01.259 --> 00:24:05.480
amnesia. Forget he's the billionaire CEO. But
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doesn't he wake up at the bottom of his marble
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stairs? But then, something else happens where,
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oh, it's like a fire alarm or something. And
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so they just move him out, they put him in a
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wheelbarrow and they just move him out. Sir,
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sir, wake up, it's a fire alarm in your own house,
00:24:22.839 --> 00:24:26.339
get a wheelbarrow. And then he wanders out, he
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wanders away and then. Onto the grounds. Yeah,
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yeah, yeah. Lost in my own backyard. Yes, and
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then he's completely lost, it's a huge backyard,
00:24:34.559 --> 00:24:38.359
40 acres, a lot bigger. miles and miles, hecta
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acres. And he's got to, now he's just like surviving
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in the wilderness. Of his own manicured land?
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Well, it gets into the wild, it gets into the
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wild forests too, if you get past the bridge.
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If you pass the second bridge, it's all wilderness.
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So is it like... Is it like Tom Hanks in Castaway
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where he thinks he's alone on an island? Yeah,
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he just doesn't remember anything of the modern
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world and he hit his head and now he's like a
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survivalist. Oh, so he's like making his own
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food in the woods? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's like
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hunting and he's got his food. And these are
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very private woods? Very private woods. He's
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a billionaire. Okay, so like Scotland or something.
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Yes, but he meets somebody who's also in the
00:25:17.880 --> 00:25:21.160
woods, like an older guy, and he's like, don't
00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:24.559
go past there. There's monsters. A wizard? Yeah,
00:25:24.559 --> 00:25:26.519
yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, he meets a wizard. Okay.
00:25:27.240 --> 00:25:29.980
Are you making this up as you go? Yeah. How could
00:25:29.980 --> 00:25:35.319
you tell? And so he's got to, so he's trapped
00:25:35.319 --> 00:25:37.019
in this area, but he doesn't mind it because
00:25:37.019 --> 00:25:38.579
he's just hunting and fishing and having a great
00:25:38.579 --> 00:25:41.019
time. Is he still wearing his very nice watch
00:25:41.019 --> 00:25:44.359
and his very nice shoes? No, he was robbed when
00:25:44.359 --> 00:25:46.880
he was knocked out. He wasn't knocked out, he
00:25:46.880 --> 00:25:48.640
was, he fell at the bottom of the stairs. Yeah,
00:25:48.660 --> 00:25:50.680
but he was knocked out. Oh, the help just stripped
00:25:50.680 --> 00:25:51.539
him naked and threw him in the river. They put
00:25:51.539 --> 00:25:54.400
him in a wheelbarrow and took all his tools.
00:25:54.660 --> 00:25:56.799
They're like, sir, sir, there's a fire. Take
00:25:56.799 --> 00:25:59.839
his watch. Yeah, there's nothing, there's nothing
00:25:59.839 --> 00:26:01.619
they can identify. I think we gotta work out,
00:26:01.660 --> 00:26:02.900
I know that there's, you know, you can do whatever
00:26:02.900 --> 00:26:04.359
you want, but I think there might be some interesting
00:26:04.359 --> 00:26:05.920
ways to get him out of the house. Yeah, maybe,
00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:08.440
yeah. But anyhow, so he's lost, and he doesn't
00:26:08.440 --> 00:26:10.259
know what to do, and he's surviving on his own
00:26:10.259 --> 00:26:12.539
for years and years, and he's got this crazy
00:26:12.539 --> 00:26:14.859
wild man. Right, he turns into Tom Hanks and
00:26:14.859 --> 00:26:17.859
Tassway. No one knows that this missing CEO is
00:26:17.859 --> 00:26:21.440
like, they're searching all over the world for
00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:24.519
him, right? They're searching high and low. Tunisia,
00:26:25.619 --> 00:26:28.700
okay? Malaysia, exactly. They don't know, they
00:26:28.700 --> 00:26:30.680
don't look in the backyard. Right, because that
00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:32.819
would be insane. Yes, why would he be so close?
00:26:32.839 --> 00:26:35.140
He's obviously like a playboy across the world.
00:26:35.500 --> 00:26:39.940
And then there's a new homekeeper. Housekeeper?
00:26:40.059 --> 00:26:42.339
Housekeeper. Okay. And she's working, she hears
00:26:42.339 --> 00:26:44.720
all these rumors and it's scary. It's like, oh,
00:26:44.759 --> 00:26:48.619
be careful of the man in the woods. He'll eat
00:26:48.619 --> 00:26:50.700
you or whatever. So there's rumors going on about
00:26:50.700 --> 00:26:52.779
a man in the woods, but nobody wants to go investigate
00:26:52.779 --> 00:26:55.799
that? No, it's too scary. Too scary. It's also
00:26:55.799 --> 00:26:59.460
just rumors. Bigfoot. It's Bigfoot. It doesn't
00:26:59.460 --> 00:27:02.160
exist. The man in the woods, get out of here.
00:27:02.180 --> 00:27:04.759
Is there a love interest? Well, yeah. So she
00:27:04.759 --> 00:27:09.240
goes out, but then she's like, you know. Treated
00:27:09.240 --> 00:27:11.839
like a stepchild and and like I believe it was
00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:13.859
mean to her because she's like the new help She's
00:27:13.859 --> 00:27:16.539
a new help and she's pretty so everyone hates
00:27:16.539 --> 00:27:19.420
her, right? So if you like I get out your job
00:27:19.420 --> 00:27:23.819
is to to go check the wild fence in the far east
00:27:23.819 --> 00:27:26.460
Side of the acreage make sure the hogs haven't
00:27:26.460 --> 00:27:28.900
gotten. Yeah. Yeah, there's wild hogs out there
00:27:28.900 --> 00:27:31.599
Here's a gun and then she's like, huh? She hates
00:27:31.599 --> 00:27:33.400
it and then all sudden like she's on the wall
00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:35.799
and the wild hogs are attacking her and they're
00:27:35.799 --> 00:27:38.200
about to kill her. Wild hogs, that's no joke.
00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:41.440
That's no joke. But all of a sudden, arrows go
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:44.279
through the hogs next. Oh man, blood, I love
00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:46.460
it. Blood everywhere, and it's this crazy wild
00:27:46.460 --> 00:27:47.980
man, and he's covered in blood, he's got huge
00:27:47.980 --> 00:27:50.019
beards. James, I feel like you could play this.
00:27:50.039 --> 00:27:51.880
She's like, I would love to play this, I'd be
00:27:51.880 --> 00:27:53.380
fine. How are your abs though? I don't know,
00:27:53.500 --> 00:27:58.619
they don't work out. And then obviously, now
00:27:58.619 --> 00:28:00.799
it's getting dark and there's a storm coming,
00:28:01.160 --> 00:28:04.359
so he takes her. And she's got wounds. She's
00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:08.559
got wounds, and she's terrified. But he takes
00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:13.519
her to his lair cave, and then treats her wounds,
00:28:13.660 --> 00:28:15.740
and then they have a moment, and it's like, oh
00:28:15.740 --> 00:28:18.640
my god, we're falling in love, et cetera, et
00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:19.700
cetera. And she's like, I have some biscuits
00:28:19.700 --> 00:28:21.079
in my pocket from your house. Yeah, I've got
00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:22.799
a couple of lamb boss biscuits. Well, maybe the
00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:25.740
biscuits, I would trigger his memory to remember
00:28:25.740 --> 00:28:28.400
that he's actually, he's like, these are my personal
00:28:28.400 --> 00:28:32.500
biscuits. The rosemary. There's only one place
00:28:32.500 --> 00:28:35.140
in the world that has these biscuits. These are
00:28:35.140 --> 00:28:37.460
my biscuits. My biscuits. This is my grandmother's
00:28:37.460 --> 00:28:39.259
recipe. Yes, perfect. And then he comes back,
00:28:39.299 --> 00:28:40.599
realizes he's a billionaire, and they fall in
00:28:40.599 --> 00:28:41.799
love, and she gets to have it all. There you
00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:44.119
go. Great. I love it. What's it called? Wild
00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:48.019
Man in the Forest. My billionaire wild man? Saved
00:28:48.019 --> 00:28:50.640
by my billionaire wild man. There we go. Nice.
00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:54.400
Slam dunk. Let me know. Contact me. Don't steal
00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:56.559
it. I'll know. I'll hunt you down. Well, you'll
00:28:56.559 --> 00:28:58.140
just make it better. Yeah, I'll make it better.
00:28:58.220 --> 00:28:59.940
All right. Should we talk to Jess? Yeah, let's
00:28:59.940 --> 00:29:04.519
talk to Jess. Let's do it! Hi, we're here! Jess
00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:10.569
Jacoby is here with us! We're so excited to have
00:29:10.569 --> 00:29:13.710
you. Oh my gosh, we're so excited. We were kind
00:29:13.710 --> 00:29:16.589
of chatting a little bit before about verticals
00:29:16.589 --> 00:29:21.109
and Hallmark movies and the holidays and I was
00:29:21.109 --> 00:29:22.650
gonna ask you a question and I forgot what it
00:29:22.650 --> 00:29:24.150
was. That was good though, it was good setup.
00:29:24.309 --> 00:29:26.029
You were ready to go. You wanted to launch into
00:29:26.029 --> 00:29:28.650
a question there in any second. Well let's just
00:29:28.650 --> 00:29:31.250
start with the basics. Where are you from? No
00:29:31.250 --> 00:29:32.789
wait, I really wanna finish this conversation.
00:29:33.190 --> 00:29:36.230
We were talking about stuff. We were midway through
00:29:36.230 --> 00:29:39.029
a conversation. I just want to know about the
00:29:39.029 --> 00:29:44.210
chart. You don't have money, but you buy a scratcher
00:29:44.210 --> 00:29:45.930
so that you can hopefully want to get a dopamine
00:29:45.930 --> 00:29:47.809
hit. And that's the same thing you with verticals
00:29:47.809 --> 00:29:49.470
is you spend all your money that maybe you don't
00:29:49.470 --> 00:29:52.230
have to get that that hit. Right. And then you
00:29:52.230 --> 00:29:54.369
said there's a chart. Well, it's just that everything
00:29:54.369 --> 00:29:56.829
in our society is going to this place of like
00:29:56.829 --> 00:29:59.910
dopamine casino kind of thing where it's like
00:29:59.910 --> 00:30:02.849
we all are just like everything is made to kind
00:30:02.849 --> 00:30:05.930
of get us, you know. Having the handle in our
00:30:05.930 --> 00:30:08.549
hand and like gambling and like and verticals
00:30:08.549 --> 00:30:10.369
are the same thing. So there's a chart was like
00:30:10.369 --> 00:30:12.789
You know, it starts out like healthy version
00:30:12.789 --> 00:30:16.730
of sports say right is playing sports, that's
00:30:16.730 --> 00:30:19.390
really healthy. Like you're getting exercise,
00:30:19.549 --> 00:30:21.410
you're outside, you're playing sports. And then
00:30:21.410 --> 00:30:24.369
it's evolved into watching sports, right? When
00:30:24.369 --> 00:30:26.029
I was growing up, we were like, we would play
00:30:26.029 --> 00:30:28.089
sports, but then we'd watch, we'd go older, like,
00:30:28.150 --> 00:30:29.829
ah, I'm gonna watch more basketball than I play.
00:30:30.130 --> 00:30:32.190
And now it's the - That's a knees problem, though.
00:30:32.390 --> 00:30:34.269
Yeah, that's more of a physical body, getting
00:30:34.269 --> 00:30:36.410
older thing, but the way that it's evolved now
00:30:36.410 --> 00:30:39.230
is now it comes to gambling on sports. That's
00:30:39.230 --> 00:30:41.549
the way that you get the dopamine hit. So now
00:30:41.549 --> 00:30:44.210
it's like, now it's like, it's too boring, I
00:30:44.210 --> 00:30:46.349
don't wanna play - because I'm old and it hurts.
00:30:47.470 --> 00:30:50.089
Watching sports is boring. Now I want to gamble
00:30:50.089 --> 00:30:52.049
on sports because then I can get some kind of
00:30:52.049 --> 00:30:54.940
dopamine hit. What's after that? Well, I don't
00:30:54.940 --> 00:30:57.119
know, that's the singularity. So, but this is
00:30:57.119 --> 00:30:58.920
gambling. So yes, that's what I'm saying, like
00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:01.039
verticals are the, like starts out, which is
00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:04.640
like watching Hallmark movies, is like the, or
00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:06.420
actually going to chop down a Christmas tree
00:31:06.420 --> 00:31:08.180
in a small town, whatever, that's the original
00:31:08.180 --> 00:31:09.539
version of that. Original version, right. Yeah,
00:31:09.660 --> 00:31:12.579
being a high -powered businesswoman, but being
00:31:12.579 --> 00:31:14.119
dissatisfied with your life and going to your
00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:15.599
small town where you grew up and chopping down
00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:17.000
a Christmas tree and meeting the lumberjack.
00:31:17.019 --> 00:31:18.640
That's the healthy. That's the healthy version.
00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:20.839
Then you watch the Hallmark version, and it's
00:31:20.839 --> 00:31:22.339
like, okay, we're evolving, and now it's the
00:31:22.339 --> 00:31:24.039
dopamine version of that where, where you go
00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:25.619
to the particle and you're like, let's pay. Yeah,
00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:27.400
and the lumberjack is like the secret CEO and
00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:29.859
he's a billionaire. Obviously. And then we fucked
00:31:29.859 --> 00:31:31.900
in the Christmas tree lot. Yes, but there's no
00:31:31.900 --> 00:31:35.390
fucking in the Christmas ones. No. Really? Oh,
00:31:35.509 --> 00:31:38.430
watch Daddy December then. Hey, let's go. Daddy
00:31:38.430 --> 00:31:40.190
December. Daddy December, we're gonna do a total,
00:31:40.230 --> 00:31:41.950
you should come back and we'll do a Christmas
00:31:41.950 --> 00:31:45.589
app with you and Aaron Overs. That would be so
00:31:45.589 --> 00:31:48.349
fun. How was working on Daddy December with director
00:31:48.349 --> 00:31:51.549
Michael, who I understand was very - Michael
00:31:51.549 --> 00:31:54.269
is amazing. But before we get into this conversation,
00:31:54.430 --> 00:31:57.289
I brought you guys some gifts. What? Daddy December
00:31:57.289 --> 00:32:00.730
may not be here, but - Holly Hart from the Holly
00:32:00.730 --> 00:32:09.160
Jolly Christmas Shop is. Homemade chocolate chip
00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:14.559
cookies. I'm so hungry. We need a cookie. Yeah,
00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:16.160
they go great with coffee. I don't have milk.
00:32:16.180 --> 00:32:18.980
Yeah, perfect, cookie and coffee. Those are like,
00:32:19.220 --> 00:32:21.440
whoa. I tried a different recipe today. What
00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:23.400
kind of cookies are these, Jess? They're like
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:25.519
dark chocolate chip cookies. Oh my god, they're
00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:27.240
perfect. Look at the back of this cookie. Oh,
00:32:27.579 --> 00:32:30.220
toasted to perfection. Zoom in. I don't know,
00:32:30.299 --> 00:32:33.099
but that's a good cookie. Oh, it's so soft. And
00:32:33.099 --> 00:32:37.750
then the most important part. Bubble! Get the
00:32:37.750 --> 00:32:39.450
coffee out of here. I don't know if you're allowed
00:32:39.450 --> 00:32:42.130
to. Allowed to, yes, come here. Yeah. Great.
00:32:42.569 --> 00:32:44.829
There's no rules, it's just right. Jess, these
00:32:44.829 --> 00:32:47.250
chocolate chips are so good. Really good. I made
00:32:47.250 --> 00:32:49.710
them this morning. I browned the butter. Oh,
00:32:50.230 --> 00:32:52.170
that's what it is. You have the night for a brother.
00:32:52.650 --> 00:32:54.569
Okay, well I'm just gonna close this. I always
00:32:54.569 --> 00:32:57.900
try and make. Cookies on every set that I'm on
00:32:57.900 --> 00:33:00.400
what if I like them? They're so sure if you didn't
00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:04.819
get cookies. Oh Sorry, I know take it personally
00:33:04.819 --> 00:33:06.700
These are so good. Does anybody else want a cookie?
00:33:07.019 --> 00:33:10.400
Yeah, please hand them out a hard -working crew.
00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:13.880
Do you want a cookie? You want some champs daddy
00:33:13.880 --> 00:33:18.180
December director? Director December. Oh my god.
00:33:18.180 --> 00:33:23.019
This is such a good So good. Oh my gosh. Yes.
00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:27.059
All right You're in charge of popping that. I'm
00:33:27.059 --> 00:33:31.039
good at it. She's an expert. Professional. I
00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:33.579
have been, I got knocked in the lip once at a
00:33:33.579 --> 00:33:37.200
party with a fat lip. Well I hope that doesn't
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:39.839
happen. I was not opening the bottle. We'd get
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:42.099
a lot of views if you did that right now. That's
00:33:42.099 --> 00:33:44.200
true. Think of the virality. I'm like I hope
00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:46.180
you don't. I was chewing on a cookie and I just
00:33:46.180 --> 00:33:50.549
spit cookie out. No, I was like, you know. My
00:33:50.549 --> 00:33:52.210
friend was doing it, and he was like, man, talking
00:33:52.210 --> 00:33:54.789
to me like this, and I was like, uh -huh. Get
00:33:54.789 --> 00:33:57.470
that bottle open. And then he was just talking,
00:33:57.529 --> 00:33:59.769
and it just came out. He had done this, and then
00:33:59.769 --> 00:34:01.490
he kept talking. It came out, hit me right here,
00:34:01.509 --> 00:34:03.170
and literally, the rest of the party, I was like,
00:34:03.269 --> 00:34:07.490
oh no. So I drank all the champagne. Well, I
00:34:07.490 --> 00:34:09.949
hope that doesn't happen. It won't. I do need
00:34:09.949 --> 00:34:13.469
a, it would be helpful if I had a, I can do a
00:34:13.469 --> 00:34:15.130
rag. Like a sword, like a champagne sword. I
00:34:15.130 --> 00:34:17.750
could just cut the bottle off. Like a rag or
00:34:17.750 --> 00:34:21.119
something. A rag. Rag to riches. Do we have,
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:24.420
do we have a rag? It's okay, she's an expert,
00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:30.820
she's an expert. Second step. Pop goes the, oh!
00:34:32.699 --> 00:34:35.679
It scared me. I know. There you guys go, oh my
00:34:35.679 --> 00:34:39.920
gosh. Oh look at, we are really, oh this is bubbly.
00:34:39.960 --> 00:34:42.460
See this will lighten up. Oh wait, this is not
00:34:42.460 --> 00:34:44.380
enough. It's like you know more bubbles than.
00:34:44.380 --> 00:34:49.199
Right. Oh no, don't spill, thank you, wait. These
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:51.179
are like the microphones in the way. I know,
00:34:51.179 --> 00:34:53.659
we need the champagne. I mean, we're drinking
00:34:53.659 --> 00:34:55.619
champagne out of coffee cups. This is gonna be
00:34:55.619 --> 00:34:58.920
interesting. But honestly, it's fitting. So good.
00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:02.920
This is just European lunch. This is how they
00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:10.039
do it. Not sponsored by. Well, cheers. To meeting
00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:13.079
you. Although I've met you. We met at a party.
00:35:13.340 --> 00:35:15.480
Yeah, we've done this before. We've done this
00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:19.659
before. But nice meeting you. Thank you for being
00:35:19.659 --> 00:35:22.960
here. Thank you for cookies. We'll actually talk
00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:25.019
to you about your life. Well, that's all the
00:35:25.019 --> 00:35:28.000
time we have. So thanks for coming, Jess. Cookies
00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:30.670
and champagne. Yeah, until next time, I guess.
00:35:30.690 --> 00:35:34.070
So good. Wait, so tell us about yourself, though.
00:35:34.389 --> 00:35:36.989
Where are you from? Okay, I'm from New Jersey.
00:35:37.550 --> 00:35:41.670
Oh. Yes, New Jersey. I have my own gas in my
00:35:41.670 --> 00:35:45.150
car. It's great. Jersey's the best. You're still
00:35:45.150 --> 00:35:46.949
holding out. I'm from Oregon. We were the only
00:35:46.949 --> 00:35:49.929
two states that would have... Attendance. Full
00:35:49.929 --> 00:35:53.190
service? Yes. A classier system, but we got rid
00:35:53.190 --> 00:35:56.150
of it in Oregon. Really? Sad. So is New Jersey
00:35:56.150 --> 00:35:58.710
now the only state? Yes, I think it is. Why?
00:36:00.429 --> 00:36:04.090
I thought it was for safety reasons. Don't get
00:36:04.090 --> 00:36:05.710
out of your car in Jersey. It's like a jobs program,
00:36:05.869 --> 00:36:07.489
too. But now it's a jobs thing. Now it gives
00:36:07.489 --> 00:36:09.889
people work. So why don't they bring it back?
00:36:10.380 --> 00:36:12.900
I don't know. Because people don't wanna pay
00:36:12.900 --> 00:36:14.679
other people? I love that job, are you kidding
00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:17.539
me? Yeah, you touch the top. You huff the fumes,
00:36:17.860 --> 00:36:20.239
you feel a little lightheaded. Literally, that's
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:22.280
what I feel on set whenever we. Smoke a cigarette
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:24.460
while you're doing it. Whenever we smoke out
00:36:24.460 --> 00:36:28.659
the places. Oh yeah. all the fumes, but so essentially
00:36:28.659 --> 00:36:32.800
we're. So you're from Jersey. Were you in the
00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:36.179
Zani world before you got into verticals? So
00:36:36.179 --> 00:36:38.880
I was, I've been acting. It's okay, we won't
00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:41.480
take it against you. We don't judge. Nobody's
00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:45.699
perfect. But honestly, verticals are what gave
00:36:45.699 --> 00:36:51.739
me my acting break, where I feel like I started
00:36:51.739 --> 00:36:54.019
leading verticals, whereas before in the horizontal
00:36:54.019 --> 00:36:57.429
world, I wasn't. Leading a bunch of projects,
00:36:57.650 --> 00:36:59.829
you know, what was your like? What were you cast
00:36:59.829 --> 00:37:02.630
for in the Zani world? Well, so I did a lot of
00:37:02.630 --> 00:37:09.389
commercials. Yes And then I did a lot of background
00:37:09.389 --> 00:37:11.389
when I was younger and then I also was on a bunch
00:37:11.389 --> 00:37:13.750
of Disney shows when I was younger But when I
00:37:13.750 --> 00:37:18.829
mean younger, I was like three. Oh wow So you're
00:37:18.829 --> 00:37:22.269
a showbiz kid Oh, I see. So you're from Jersey,
00:37:22.329 --> 00:37:27.170
but you've been out here? No, New York. My entire
00:37:27.170 --> 00:37:30.429
family is in the film industry, so it's always
00:37:30.429 --> 00:37:35.610
something I've been a part of in some way. But
00:37:35.610 --> 00:37:37.690
I was the one who wanted to be in front of the
00:37:37.690 --> 00:37:39.750
camera. My whole family's behind the camera.
00:37:39.889 --> 00:37:42.420
My mom tried to keep me out of acting. for as
00:37:42.420 --> 00:37:44.420
long as she possibly could, but I was like, nah,
00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:48.639
Mom, I'm a star. Well, it's working so far. Right,
00:37:48.900 --> 00:37:50.860
yeah, thanks. Seriously, so good. When did you
00:37:50.860 --> 00:37:53.400
start, when was your first vertical then? My
00:37:53.400 --> 00:38:01.119
first vertical was April 2024. Okay, so a year
00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:03.119
and a half ago. How many have you done now since
00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:07.219
then? Gosh, I don't know. I want to say in like
00:38:07.219 --> 00:38:10.929
the high 20s. Pretty good. That's a lot of verticals.
00:38:10.989 --> 00:38:13.030
I feel like once you get up there, you're like,
00:38:13.070 --> 00:38:16.050
I'm done counting. Yeah. Like how can I, how
00:38:16.050 --> 00:38:20.409
can you keep up? I try, I try and it sounds so
00:38:20.409 --> 00:38:21.889
messed up. I'm like, I try and remember all my
00:38:21.889 --> 00:38:24.090
character's names and like I do for the most
00:38:24.090 --> 00:38:28.480
part. Can you rattle them off? Probably not people
00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:33.559
say you have 17 brothers. What's that? Dynasty
00:38:33.559 --> 00:38:42.159
But yeah, no, I've done a lot Never did I think
00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:44.280
I was gonna do this many because I think when
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:48.380
I first started I Had a great first experience
00:38:48.380 --> 00:38:51.139
on a vertical Grace Swanson was the lead. She's
00:38:51.139 --> 00:38:54.500
we love grace love grace love grace smart. She
00:38:54.500 --> 00:38:58.619
was so great And I think at the time, I don't
00:38:58.619 --> 00:39:00.920
know how many she had done prior, but I don't
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:04.260
think a whole ton. I think it was like five or
00:39:04.260 --> 00:39:07.400
six, maybe around there. But I remember thinking
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:10.219
like, that's so, like that's so many. And now
00:39:10.219 --> 00:39:12.579
here I'm at like what, 29 or something. Were
00:39:12.579 --> 00:39:15.099
you like the best friend or are you? I was, so
00:39:15.099 --> 00:39:17.980
it was, it was an interesting story. The story
00:39:17.980 --> 00:39:22.880
was me and her are best friends and she, like
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:27.079
I'm this rich girl who is supposed to get married
00:39:27.079 --> 00:39:30.440
to the CEO. She ends up pretending to be me on
00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:33.500
a date because I don't want to go. Oh, because
00:39:33.500 --> 00:39:35.380
the CEO hadn't seen you yet? Yes, he hadn't seen
00:39:35.380 --> 00:39:36.920
me yet. This isn't a Molly Anderson, Jessica
00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:41.659
Jacoby situation. No, but that's funny. So yeah,
00:39:41.679 --> 00:39:45.219
he hadn't seen me yet. But she put on a red wig,
00:39:45.380 --> 00:39:47.199
I think, though, which is funny. So I think she
00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:50.460
wears a red wig. But yeah, she just pretends
00:39:50.460 --> 00:39:54.059
to be me and then tries to like mess up the date.
00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:56.960
But he ends up falling in love. and the whole
00:39:56.960 --> 00:39:59.239
time she's pretending to be me. And I'm pretending
00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:02.360
to be her, but then I end up having a love affair
00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:07.619
with his, the CEO's assistant. So we end up being
00:40:07.619 --> 00:40:09.980
with who we actually want to be with. What a
00:40:09.980 --> 00:40:13.099
twisted web. A double love story. It was really
00:40:13.099 --> 00:40:15.300
cute and it was my first on -screen kiss. What
00:40:15.300 --> 00:40:24.599
was it called? I don't know. Don't look at us.
00:40:26.539 --> 00:40:28.460
It was 28 verticals ago. I know it, I know it.
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:33.219
She knows it. Go Jess, you choose. I think it's
00:40:33.219 --> 00:40:38.559
the unreliable guide on dating your CEO. It's
00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:40.900
for good short. Okay, we gotta check that out.
00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:44.280
It was cute. Grace was great. I never saw the
00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:47.260
whole thing, but she was great. in what I've
00:40:47.260 --> 00:40:49.840
seen. I love it, I love it. I'll have to ask
00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:54.340
Chris about that, I like it. Yeah, it's funny,
00:40:55.699 --> 00:40:58.739
because having a doppelganger like we were talking
00:40:58.739 --> 00:41:01.760
is out there. Molly was saying, we had Molly
00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:03.920
on a little while ago, and she was saying she's
00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:06.260
been mistaken for you. But do you get mistaken
00:41:06.260 --> 00:41:11.460
for Molly? Honestly, not often, because I don't
00:41:11.460 --> 00:41:15.909
really go out. There we go. It's hard to keep
00:41:15.909 --> 00:41:19.030
up with it. It's hard to keep up with it. I sit
00:41:19.030 --> 00:41:21.369
on my couch and literally do nothing most of
00:41:21.369 --> 00:41:24.809
the time. But yeah, we do get mistaken a lot
00:41:24.809 --> 00:41:26.269
for each other. I did like that you guys were
00:41:26.269 --> 00:41:27.590
in that one where you played sisters. I was like,
00:41:28.030 --> 00:41:29.750
this makes sense. It was the best. That was the
00:41:29.750 --> 00:41:31.369
fencing one, right? Yes. Oh, that was a great
00:41:31.369 --> 00:41:35.250
one. It was so fun. And I play the villain sometimes.
00:41:36.789 --> 00:41:38.929
I play the protagonist more than the villain,
00:41:39.050 --> 00:41:41.230
but I love playing the villain. And it's funny.
00:41:41.230 --> 00:41:42.230
What do you like about it? Villains have more
00:41:42.230 --> 00:41:45.260
fun. They have so much. And I feel like I get
00:41:45.260 --> 00:41:49.539
to be a bitch and no one can judge me. Like I
00:41:49.539 --> 00:41:52.400
can have a bad day. I'm tired and just walk on
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:53.599
set. Everyone's like, oh, she's getting into
00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:57.440
character. It's fine. I actually got a ticket
00:41:57.440 --> 00:41:59.760
on the way here. You walk in on my face and I'm
00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:03.860
like, oh, she met us. No, but I've always loved
00:42:03.860 --> 00:42:06.139
villains. I've always gravitated towards them.
00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:08.780
I would love there to be more anti -hero stories
00:42:08.780 --> 00:42:11.079
in this vertical world. I think that's what we're
00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:15.980
missing. Molly, for example, plays a great villain.
00:42:16.780 --> 00:42:19.380
She plays a great villain. She plays a great
00:42:19.380 --> 00:42:22.900
heroine. So it was really fun and interesting
00:42:22.900 --> 00:42:25.940
playing alongside her. Playing alongside you
00:42:25.940 --> 00:42:28.840
guys, yeah, together. Because I don't know if
00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:32.079
she told you how we originally met. No, she didn't.
00:42:32.159 --> 00:42:37.380
Spoke with tea. Tea time. So Molly was a lead
00:42:37.380 --> 00:42:40.340
in a feature film, an incredible feature. No,
00:42:40.460 --> 00:42:45.460
the male lady. So Molly led that. It's a villain
00:42:45.460 --> 00:42:49.119
character, the villain's lead. She's a stalker.
00:42:49.300 --> 00:42:53.199
She's a crazy woman with a crazy past. And there
00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:56.940
was a three -picture deal, I guess. And Molly
00:42:56.940 --> 00:43:00.000
didn't end up doing the second two, but I did,
00:43:00.260 --> 00:43:02.860
as her character. But we didn't know each other
00:43:02.860 --> 00:43:05.019
at the time. That's how we met. Did you know
00:43:05.019 --> 00:43:06.699
that you were taking over somebody else's role?
00:43:08.969 --> 00:43:11.210
So I knew they were like, oh, for the second
00:43:11.210 --> 00:43:13.570
and third movie, we don't have the lead from
00:43:13.570 --> 00:43:14.530
the first one, because she didn't want to do
00:43:14.530 --> 00:43:16.650
it. I didn't replace her. She didn't want to
00:43:16.650 --> 00:43:20.570
do it. She had pulled out of it. And then I got
00:43:20.570 --> 00:43:22.429
the call that I booked this role. I'm like, OK,
00:43:22.429 --> 00:43:25.590
great. And I was on set with Casey Esser. And
00:43:25.590 --> 00:43:27.469
Casey was like, he was telling me about the role
00:43:27.469 --> 00:43:30.530
that I just booked. He's like, that sounds like
00:43:30.530 --> 00:43:32.889
a role that my friend Molly did. And I'm like,
00:43:32.929 --> 00:43:36.329
interesting. Went back, watched the first one,
00:43:36.510 --> 00:43:40.159
saw it was this girl Molly Anderson. Molly Anderson
00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:42.760
reached out to me, told me about the experience
00:43:42.760 --> 00:43:45.360
and about everything. I ended up doing the movie.
00:43:45.699 --> 00:43:49.460
So now Molly and I are both Sloane Redding, the
00:43:49.460 --> 00:43:51.340
character in this movie franchise. That is so
00:43:51.340 --> 00:43:53.360
amazing. You guys literally ended up being the
00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:56.440
same. We are the same person. Me and Molly are
00:43:56.440 --> 00:43:58.659
the same person. I love it. Except for that she
00:43:58.659 --> 00:44:01.559
goes out and you don't. Yeah, and she had a third
00:44:01.559 --> 00:44:03.820
eye painted on her head last time. Molly, we
00:44:03.820 --> 00:44:06.760
love Molly. We love Molly. She's full of moxie.
00:44:06.940 --> 00:44:09.519
I said, Molly, if Jessica has a third eye painted
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:11.659
on and Molly stops me and goes, Jessica has a
00:44:11.659 --> 00:44:14.260
third eye. She doesn't need to paint it on. I
00:44:14.260 --> 00:44:17.519
was like, I love that. I can feel it too. You're
00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:20.000
so, you're so common center. Like, I feel like
00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:22.440
a spaz right now. Yeah, do you do yoga? I do.
00:44:22.539 --> 00:44:24.820
Oh, there it is. But I don't feel common. I think
00:44:24.820 --> 00:44:26.619
maybe I really. You sound common center to your
00:44:26.619 --> 00:44:31.780
voice. Very, I do ASMR. Please. Start a podcast
00:44:31.780 --> 00:44:35.940
of my own. Yes. Hello, you're Jessica Jacoby's
00:44:35.940 --> 00:44:38.739
voice. Maybe it's the bubbly, maybe. Maybe. Have
00:44:38.739 --> 00:44:41.880
you ever done voiceover before? So funny you
00:44:41.880 --> 00:44:47.940
ask that. So, yeah. So I was just doing voice,
00:44:47.940 --> 00:44:50.480
I don't know if I'm allowed to say this. Whatever.
00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:53.260
So I was doing, so I was doing voiceover for
00:44:53.260 --> 00:44:56.639
Wicked promo for the new Wicked movie. So I did
00:44:56.639 --> 00:44:59.380
the VO for it. I went on set for it to do a whole
00:44:59.380 --> 00:45:04.239
thing. They ended up pulling the piece. So I
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:06.920
don't have, so I did it. I have done VO work,
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:10.599
but they ended up just. Was it for a trailer
00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:14.659
or were you the? No, so it was for, so it was
00:45:14.659 --> 00:45:18.650
for Wicked for. a promo for the movie, but for
00:45:18.650 --> 00:45:22.570
Google. Like Google was behind it. Wicked for
00:45:22.570 --> 00:45:27.150
Google. I'm wicked for Google. Wicked for Google.
00:45:29.130 --> 00:45:34.349
And basically I was just speaking as if I were
00:45:34.349 --> 00:45:38.170
them or if I were in that world of Oz and they
00:45:38.170 --> 00:45:40.329
were cheating like hands to be like Glinda's
00:45:40.329 --> 00:45:44.230
hands. It was really cool. It was very immersive.
00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:47.300
They wanted me to sing popular a little bit,
00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:50.019
and I'm like, I don't sing that. Sorry, Amagras.
00:45:50.019 --> 00:45:53.800
I was about to say, do you sing? She's about
00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:56.699
to burst into song right now. She's like, popular.
00:45:59.300 --> 00:46:03.579
Imagine this is a musical now. No, I wouldn't
00:46:03.579 --> 00:46:07.659
say I sing. I don't sing publicly. Okay, yes.
00:46:07.739 --> 00:46:09.679
Can I carry a tune? Yeah. Do I do musical theater?
00:46:09.739 --> 00:46:12.739
Yeah. Oh, okay, so you can sing. But do I promote
00:46:12.739 --> 00:46:15.710
myself as a singer? But if someone was like,
00:46:15.949 --> 00:46:17.630
hey, you wanna do a musical, you'd be like, yeah,
00:46:17.630 --> 00:46:20.230
let me see the script. Okay. When's the first
00:46:20.230 --> 00:46:22.150
musical vertical gonna be? It's happening. I
00:46:22.150 --> 00:46:25.309
don't know. There's so many fan casts. I don't
00:46:25.309 --> 00:46:26.989
know, I don't know if it's happening. No, right,
00:46:27.050 --> 00:46:28.829
I mean, there are so many fan casts where people
00:46:28.829 --> 00:46:31.730
want us to do like a glee, which would be so
00:46:31.730 --> 00:46:35.369
fun. But I'm currently working on writing something.
00:46:35.889 --> 00:46:38.230
Ooh, that's exciting. What are you writing? Very
00:46:38.230 --> 00:46:41.409
exciting. Well, nothing I can really say yet.
00:46:41.409 --> 00:46:46.039
Okay, okay, okay, okay. it's gonna be different.
00:46:46.739 --> 00:46:48.820
Different is good. Different is good. But we're
00:46:48.820 --> 00:46:50.679
still gonna try and keep the same audience, but
00:46:50.679 --> 00:46:52.900
we're gonna try and do more ensemble style cast.
00:46:53.420 --> 00:46:56.159
I think that people would like that a lot. I
00:46:56.159 --> 00:47:00.059
think so too. The monotony of the sameness of
00:47:00.059 --> 00:47:02.159
a lot of these things is like, it's like copies
00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:05.139
of copies of copies and it's just like, you know,
00:47:05.239 --> 00:47:08.280
it's tough because audience craves different,
00:47:08.599 --> 00:47:11.650
but also the same. because all of their algorithms
00:47:11.650 --> 00:47:14.190
say that they do too different, no one will watch.
00:47:14.530 --> 00:47:19.230
And I think right now we're trying to find the
00:47:19.230 --> 00:47:23.210
balance between both to hold audiences but also
00:47:23.210 --> 00:47:27.809
gain new audiences because it's just all the
00:47:27.809 --> 00:47:29.389
same. And that's something that I'm trying to
00:47:29.389 --> 00:47:33.909
do recently. I'm trying to only take more original
00:47:33.909 --> 00:47:37.460
scripts because... I've just done the same stuff.
00:47:37.460 --> 00:47:39.039
Right, it gets tired after a while. I'm so tired
00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:40.539
of it. No, I think that's gonna happen in the
00:47:40.539 --> 00:47:42.519
industry too. I feel like all of the actors who
00:47:42.519 --> 00:47:44.300
are like, okay, I got this, what's next? Like
00:47:44.300 --> 00:47:46.239
I did my actor boot camp, I know how to be this,
00:47:46.340 --> 00:47:47.980
I know how to be that, what's next? And it's
00:47:47.980 --> 00:47:49.599
gonna demand better scripts in the industry.
00:47:49.639 --> 00:47:53.019
And I'm looking forward to that. Me too. I mean,
00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:55.079
still please show me your abs and get together.
00:47:55.960 --> 00:47:58.300
You'll always get that. That's the thing, that's
00:47:58.300 --> 00:48:01.980
something that we're learning. The past two projects
00:48:01.980 --> 00:48:06.539
that I just did were, Very different. Very different
00:48:06.539 --> 00:48:09.340
than your normal vertical. How so? If you can
00:48:09.340 --> 00:48:12.179
say it in specific. Yeah, no. There's more character
00:48:12.179 --> 00:48:17.280
development. It's more dialogue -driven stories
00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:23.199
rather than a plot in like 10 ,000 billion characters.
00:48:23.539 --> 00:48:26.760
It's more focused on the specific people, the
00:48:26.760 --> 00:48:30.280
specific story. And it feels like... it's more
00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:34.179
of a TV series than a vertical. Which I think
00:48:34.179 --> 00:48:37.280
is gonna be great. Yeah, and they're shot very
00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:41.500
cinematically, we took a lot more time, the acting
00:48:41.500 --> 00:48:44.059
is way more grounded, you don't have any slaps,
00:48:44.219 --> 00:48:46.219
you don't have any galas, you don't have any.
00:48:46.219 --> 00:48:49.539
Wait a minute though, hang on. But there's a
00:48:49.539 --> 00:48:51.159
banquet hall, right? There's gotta be a banquet
00:48:51.159 --> 00:48:54.219
hall. There's no banquet hall. Is there a dip?
00:48:54.719 --> 00:48:56.639
Do people dip each other? What about a slip?
00:48:57.019 --> 00:48:59.960
Slip, slip and dip? There is someone does slip
00:48:59.960 --> 00:49:02.960
and fall, but I, because I trip them. Oh, so
00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:04.440
there's still some tripping, some villains. Well,
00:49:04.440 --> 00:49:06.880
it's only, well. What about mansions? Is there
00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:08.139
a mansion? Please tell me there's a mansion,
00:49:08.219 --> 00:49:10.219
or what are we doing, Molly? I mean, Jessica.
00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:12.860
Is there a werewolf? You did it. I mean, who?
00:49:14.019 --> 00:49:18.000
It's so funny. Just kidding, by the way. There's
00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:20.519
only, there is one mansion, but we're not really
00:49:20.519 --> 00:49:22.480
calling it even a mansion. This is just someone's
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:25.320
house. No billionaires? No werewolves? No. Wow.
00:49:25.869 --> 00:49:27.869
What's it about? Can you tell us anything about
00:49:27.869 --> 00:49:32.230
these MDA secrets? I think I can. I think I could
00:49:32.230 --> 00:49:36.849
tell you. So one of them is coming out on December
00:49:36.849 --> 00:49:39.449
9th, which is really soon. Yes, I'm so excited.
00:49:39.449 --> 00:49:41.289
We can talk about that. We can talk about that.
00:49:41.309 --> 00:49:45.929
So that's Bad Biker. Bad Biker. I get to ride
00:49:45.929 --> 00:49:49.030
a motorcycle in it, for reals. Like, guys, I
00:49:49.030 --> 00:49:51.489
was really on the back of that motorcycle. Like,
00:49:51.670 --> 00:49:54.050
it was really fun. Oh my gosh. So that's coming
00:49:54.050 --> 00:49:56.889
out soon. That's really soon. And that is one
00:49:56.889 --> 00:49:58.789
of my favorite verticals I've ever done. You're
00:49:58.789 --> 00:50:00.750
riding a motorcycle. What kind of motorcycle?
00:50:01.039 --> 00:50:03.619
Like a like a rocket. I don't know. Is it like
00:50:03.619 --> 00:50:05.559
a big harley? Does it sound like this? No, I'm
00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:08.199
like, what does it sound like? No, it's like
00:50:08.199 --> 00:50:11.099
Okay, so like a hog. She's riding a hog or something.
00:50:11.320 --> 00:50:14.139
Yeah, that's cool. It's cool I'm in all leather
00:50:14.139 --> 00:50:17.280
like the whole time. Yes, it was sick. But yeah,
00:50:17.360 --> 00:50:23.340
so that one is about a girl, Eva Lane And she
00:50:23.340 --> 00:50:26.059
is in love with this biker and she gets into
00:50:26.059 --> 00:50:31.409
an accident and she wakes up alone She has amnesia.
00:50:32.210 --> 00:50:35.409
She does. That's a little predictable, but she
00:50:35.409 --> 00:50:38.389
has no idea who she is, no idea where she is,
00:50:38.769 --> 00:50:41.869
and doesn't know anyone, and she's not with a
00:50:41.869 --> 00:50:43.090
biker. She's not with anyone. Where's the biker
00:50:43.090 --> 00:50:45.590
gang? She has no idea. She becomes a good girl.
00:50:47.449 --> 00:50:49.349
She might. She's still a bad girl. She joins
00:50:49.349 --> 00:50:52.550
a covenant. But, so, I'm not gonna tell you everything,
00:50:53.030 --> 00:50:56.409
but. Basically, the story is her trying to figure
00:50:56.409 --> 00:50:58.170
out who she is, and then there are certain people
00:50:58.170 --> 00:51:00.349
that come into her life and try and help her,
00:51:00.349 --> 00:51:03.150
but she doesn't know who she can trust. And neither
00:51:03.150 --> 00:51:06.949
do you guys. Was the accident a nefarious accident?
00:51:07.170 --> 00:51:11.250
I can't tell. Oh my god, they tried to murder
00:51:11.250 --> 00:51:14.590
her. It's really good. What's it called again?
00:51:14.829 --> 00:51:17.289
Bad biker. Bad biker. Okay, bad biker. What app
00:51:17.289 --> 00:51:19.210
is that on? Drama Shorts. Drama Shorts. I'm so
00:51:19.210 --> 00:51:23.389
excited. I did hear the edit. Ended up being
00:51:23.389 --> 00:51:25.630
different than what it was originally supposed
00:51:25.630 --> 00:51:29.130
to be. Okay, so I I'm almost gonna be just as
00:51:29.130 --> 00:51:32.039
surprised. I love that as everyone else, which
00:51:32.039 --> 00:51:35.019
is kind of fun. They ended up changing some things
00:51:35.019 --> 00:51:37.739
in the edit, because it was too much like a regular
00:51:37.739 --> 00:51:40.679
TV series. It was too good. It was too good.
00:51:41.039 --> 00:51:42.659
We needed to make it a little more vertical.
00:51:44.219 --> 00:51:46.019
We had to add a VO in there, because we don't
00:51:46.019 --> 00:51:49.800
have enough VOs. You're on your bike, you're
00:51:49.800 --> 00:51:55.179
like, whoa! That's so funny. But that experience
00:51:55.179 --> 00:51:57.820
was amazing. Casey Jackson, the director, one
00:51:57.820 --> 00:52:00.400
of the best directors I've worked with. Definitely
00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:04.579
an actor's director really works with actors.
00:52:04.579 --> 00:52:13.340
Yeah, he's Yeah Yeah, no Casey Jackson is amazing
00:52:13.340 --> 00:52:18.039
he wrote it as well so He got a lot of creative
00:52:18.039 --> 00:52:20.599
say behind everything which is always amazing.
00:52:20.840 --> 00:52:23.980
Yeah, but yeah, so that's coming out on the ninth
00:52:23.980 --> 00:52:27.539
exciting But the next vertical I did whoo, tell
00:52:27.539 --> 00:52:31.519
us my love this another amazing, amazing, amazing
00:52:31.519 --> 00:52:35.159
experience. I think we're gonna keep the title,
00:52:35.219 --> 00:52:36.860
so I'll just say it's gonna be called Before
00:52:36.860 --> 00:52:39.780
We Fall, and it's for Shorticle. Shorticle, I
00:52:39.780 --> 00:52:41.239
haven't even heard of Shorticle yet, but that
00:52:41.239 --> 00:52:43.980
is my new favorite app name. It's a new company,
00:52:44.179 --> 00:52:47.579
it's a newer company. I think they have, I don't
00:52:47.579 --> 00:52:51.360
know how many original projects they have out
00:52:51.360 --> 00:52:53.980
right now. I wanna say like four or five, so
00:52:53.980 --> 00:52:57.969
they are newer. They have, stacked cast, they
00:52:57.969 --> 00:53:00.349
have amazing scripts, they shoot everything so
00:53:00.349 --> 00:53:02.949
cinematically. And this one, yeah, this one was
00:53:02.949 --> 00:53:06.170
a story that I haven't done before, and it was
00:53:06.170 --> 00:53:11.369
an age gap one. I'm always like, you see, these
00:53:11.369 --> 00:53:13.449
are the ones that I'm like, I'm really glad no
00:53:13.449 --> 00:53:15.650
one's watching me watch this. Because I'm like
00:53:15.650 --> 00:53:18.489
into it, but I'm also like, I don't know if I
00:53:18.489 --> 00:53:19.849
should be into this. How much of an age gap?
00:53:20.110 --> 00:53:24.599
He's 90 easy. When I say, I honestly shouldn't
00:53:24.599 --> 00:53:27.440
have even said age gap because we don't look
00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:30.840
in age gap. It's me and Jackson Tiller. So, okay.
00:53:31.260 --> 00:53:33.260
Right, you look at us and it's like. He's 25,
00:53:33.519 --> 00:53:35.900
you're 25. He's not 25, well maybe he is. He's
00:53:35.900 --> 00:53:37.539
a little older. He's a little older. He's got
00:53:37.539 --> 00:53:40.460
that, I've seen things, babe. Totally. But see,
00:53:40.460 --> 00:53:41.960
that's what they wanted and that's what they
00:53:41.960 --> 00:53:43.719
got. Oh yeah, Jackson Tiller, that's what you
00:53:43.719 --> 00:53:47.179
get. He delivered. When I first saw him on the
00:53:47.179 --> 00:53:49.780
scene, I was like, can he be a leading man? I
00:53:49.780 --> 00:53:51.719
think we even talked about it, and then the more
00:53:51.719 --> 00:53:54.340
I watch him, I'm like, oh my god, I'm in love
00:53:54.340 --> 00:53:57.380
with him. Like, he is leading man. Yeah, no,
00:53:57.420 --> 00:54:00.820
this was my first vertical with him, and I had
00:54:00.820 --> 00:54:03.460
heard great things going into it, but working
00:54:03.460 --> 00:54:07.579
with him exceeded my expectations. He's a great
00:54:07.579 --> 00:54:08.639
actor. I'm sure he'll say the same thing about
00:54:08.639 --> 00:54:11.050
you when we have him on. He's fucking better.
00:54:11.949 --> 00:54:15.210
Better. Better bring cookies. He's not getting
00:54:15.210 --> 00:54:18.849
any cookies. Yeah, no, he's super talented. He's
00:54:18.849 --> 00:54:21.949
so professional and just, he's funny and just
00:54:21.949 --> 00:54:26.329
makes the environment feel warm and a safe place
00:54:26.329 --> 00:54:28.150
to be in. Not what you want. But yeah, it was
00:54:28.150 --> 00:54:31.989
awesome. Yeah, he plays my dad's friend who's
00:54:31.989 --> 00:54:34.829
also my neighbor. Dad's friend who's your neighbor,
00:54:34.989 --> 00:54:38.500
okay. But he's not a billionaire. Oh, he's just
00:54:38.500 --> 00:54:40.639
a neighbor. He's just a neighbor. And he actually,
00:54:41.019 --> 00:54:43.480
for a male lead, what was great about this, he's
00:54:43.480 --> 00:54:48.239
a very layered character. He has PTSD. He was
00:54:48.239 --> 00:54:50.619
in the military. From the war. Right. But he's
00:54:50.619 --> 00:54:53.599
also might be like, get down there. Right. Whoa.
00:54:54.159 --> 00:54:59.639
Right. Get down! But you would think, but my
00:54:59.639 --> 00:55:02.559
character is the one who takes control. Oh, so
00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:06.909
it's like a dom sitch. without this blog and
00:55:06.909 --> 00:55:10.489
stuff. Right, it's definitely, we'll say it's
00:55:10.489 --> 00:55:14.510
rated R, but not on the crazy. Right, not the
00:55:14.510 --> 00:55:17.329
like, I'm gonna spank you and whatever. There's
00:55:17.329 --> 00:55:19.769
no spanking. Well, a spanking, I love a spanking.
00:55:20.389 --> 00:55:23.309
There's talk of it, but there is an actual. Oh,
00:55:23.309 --> 00:55:25.550
don't tell me that. I need to see a spanking.
00:55:26.030 --> 00:55:29.010
Yeah. At least it's not an uncle, that still
00:55:29.010 --> 00:55:31.480
goes better. No, what's the name of it? Before
00:55:31.480 --> 00:55:33.440
we fall. Oh right before we fall and that's on
00:55:33.440 --> 00:55:36.480
shortical. Okay, and that comes out when? I have
00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:39.780
no idea. Okay, so soon. TBH. I would say probably
00:55:39.780 --> 00:55:42.840
in the next two months. Keep your eyes out for
00:55:42.840 --> 00:55:44.840
that. That one is gonna be so good. I cannot
00:55:44.840 --> 00:55:47.360
wait. Like I'm so excited for that one. I want
00:55:47.360 --> 00:55:51.579
to try and get them to do something for it. Like
00:55:51.579 --> 00:55:53.340
I don't know if it's gonna be a premiere for
00:55:53.340 --> 00:55:55.340
it, but they are very proud of this one. The
00:55:55.340 --> 00:55:58.679
director was also the writer of it. Who is also
00:55:58.679 --> 00:56:01.539
shortical? Oh, I love that. Well, whenever it's
00:56:01.539 --> 00:56:04.579
coming out, let us know. We'll show up. With
00:56:04.579 --> 00:56:10.599
our GoPros on and we'll do a live. James, it'll
00:56:10.599 --> 00:56:11.960
be great because you'll have a GoPro and I'll
00:56:11.960 --> 00:56:13.940
have a GoPro and then it'll just be like me shooting
00:56:13.940 --> 00:56:16.079
you and you shooting me. And then we'll edit
00:56:16.079 --> 00:56:19.880
it together, right? What could go wrong? I think
00:56:19.880 --> 00:56:22.679
it's perfect. I think it's perfect. This is so
00:56:22.679 --> 00:56:24.280
great. You are just working, working, working.
00:56:24.420 --> 00:56:27.119
I love that. To tell us about, we just watched
00:56:27.119 --> 00:56:29.519
the one where your FBI agents. The CEO trap.
00:56:29.679 --> 00:56:32.579
CEO trap. Yes, well how far into it did you get?
00:56:32.760 --> 00:56:34.159
To the paywall. So we review up to the paywall.
00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:36.980
So I should have gave you guys. More access.
00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:40.059
Like more access, because I have the full thing.
00:56:40.159 --> 00:56:43.059
Okay, well I want to continue watching. So that's
00:56:43.059 --> 00:56:45.340
how we roll is we review up to the paywall and
00:56:45.340 --> 00:56:47.760
then we rate it and then we say like that's if
00:56:47.760 --> 00:56:49.119
you're gonna, you know, we're gonna watch it.
00:56:49.119 --> 00:56:51.860
We might go, we might do deeper reviews. If you
00:56:51.860 --> 00:56:54.659
want us to do deeper reviews, let us know. in
00:56:54.659 --> 00:56:58.579
the comments, 2026. The full Monty reviews. I
00:56:58.579 --> 00:57:00.119
mean, I'm gonna watch it on my own personal time,
00:57:00.179 --> 00:57:03.000
so there's that. But also, we could review it,
00:57:03.000 --> 00:57:06.900
but I think, I have a really important question
00:57:06.900 --> 00:57:10.599
to ask you. When you first knock on room 1303.
00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:12.880
There's controversy here. Controversy here. Okay.
00:57:13.300 --> 00:57:15.880
When you first knock on room 1303, and you open
00:57:15.880 --> 00:57:19.679
the door to reveal Nick Ritaco, right? Yes, Nick
00:57:19.679 --> 00:57:24.599
Ritaco. As Adrian. were his abs enhanced by the
00:57:24.599 --> 00:57:28.079
makeup department? I knew it! I'm a fucking ab
00:57:28.079 --> 00:57:31.119
expert, don't fuck with me, I know what's going
00:57:31.119 --> 00:57:35.519
on. See, no, I knew it. I can tell an ab if it's
00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:37.900
real or not. I'm like. I didn't believe it. I'll
00:57:37.900 --> 00:57:40.000
be the first to admit. I was like, these abs
00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:43.019
have been enhanced. These were airbrushed, there's
00:57:43.019 --> 00:57:47.539
body makeup. Nope. That is some real good ab
00:57:47.539 --> 00:57:56.699
work. No, I was gonna say they all usually have
00:57:56.699 --> 00:57:59.780
crazy I don't know if I don't know if our friend
00:57:59.780 --> 00:58:01.860
Michael over here remembers but in daddy December
00:58:01.860 --> 00:58:05.300
Oh, come on our dear friend Aaron They would
00:58:05.300 --> 00:58:07.480
he had to wear I think like a lot of like white
00:58:07.480 --> 00:58:11.219
t -shirts at some point in in the show But you
00:58:11.219 --> 00:58:13.800
could see the microphone through a white t -shirt
00:58:13.800 --> 00:58:17.159
right from so they would just put it in between
00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:20.760
his like, ab lines and it would, it would hide
00:58:20.760 --> 00:58:26.019
it. It would hide it. Oh my God, ab valley. Ab
00:58:26.019 --> 00:58:28.519
valley, Aaron Overs is ab valley. Oh, I can't
00:58:28.519 --> 00:58:30.900
wait to talk to him about that. Oh, he'll tell
00:58:30.900 --> 00:58:33.460
you about it. I'm gonna ask to see that. Well,
00:58:33.500 --> 00:58:34.880
I know you will. You're gonna touch him. You
00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:36.480
know what, we're gonna get a laugh. You're gonna
00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:38.760
touch those abs. Can we get a laugh? I'm gonna
00:58:38.760 --> 00:58:42.519
try it out. I am crying. We're gonna send a bombing
00:58:42.519 --> 00:58:45.250
run through that valley. So I guess the women
00:58:45.250 --> 00:58:47.429
do love the abs in these. Oh my god, they're
00:58:47.429 --> 00:58:50.190
so good. Turns out. And they also have a shoulder.
00:58:51.269 --> 00:58:53.389
Okay. Like there's something about men's shoulders
00:58:53.389 --> 00:58:55.030
when they're like cut a little bit and you can
00:58:55.030 --> 00:58:56.469
kind of see the delt and then they're like doing
00:58:56.469 --> 00:58:58.550
stuff and I'm like, just turn around. I wanna
00:58:58.550 --> 00:59:00.409
see more of the fuck your face. I want yours
00:59:00.409 --> 00:59:03.449
back. That is so funny. I guess it really is
00:59:03.449 --> 00:59:05.250
all about the inserts. Like whenever we're filming
00:59:05.250 --> 00:59:09.090
these scenes, it's so funny because we'll film
00:59:09.090 --> 00:59:11.469
the wide shot of it and then we'll go into closeups
00:59:11.469 --> 00:59:12.909
and I'm like, okay, so we're gonna do the scene
00:59:12.909 --> 00:59:15.610
again. but we're kind of just gonna get like
00:59:15.610 --> 00:59:17.449
inserts, everything, and we always like roll
00:59:17.449 --> 00:59:19.769
our eyes, like, ugh, we'll do this again just
00:59:19.769 --> 00:59:21.809
so we can get inserts, but that's what I think
00:59:21.809 --> 00:59:24.329
everyone loves, it's the insert of the shoulder.
00:59:24.329 --> 00:59:28.769
Yeah, or like the neck. Yes, it feels very tactile.
00:59:29.010 --> 00:59:31.630
You want a tactile cinema. You're very POV, very
00:59:31.630 --> 00:59:34.050
boyeristic. You're like, I'm touching that shoulder
00:59:34.050 --> 00:59:38.449
right now. Right, right. I swear, I'm not a creeper.
00:59:38.469 --> 00:59:41.909
No, I know I love this. I am a demographic. I
00:59:41.909 --> 00:59:44.130
love hearing this because it's so different when
00:59:44.130 --> 00:59:46.329
I'm experiencing it, you know what I mean? Thank
00:59:46.329 --> 00:59:47.730
you for your service. It's like the glycerin
00:59:47.730 --> 00:59:50.469
that they just sprayed on him with fake sweat
00:59:50.469 --> 00:59:53.989
on my hand. Thank you for your service. It is
00:59:53.989 --> 00:59:57.690
worth it. For me. Hell yeah. Okay, I'm so glad
00:59:57.690 --> 01:00:04.590
I'm speeding someone. That's so funny. Has anyone
01:00:04.590 --> 01:00:07.599
ever told you that you could play Jessica Rabbit?
01:00:08.659 --> 01:00:11.400
No. You should do a Jessica Rabbit one. That'd
01:00:11.400 --> 01:00:15.420
be fun. I wanna play Catwoman. That's like a
01:00:15.420 --> 01:00:17.199
dream of mine. Yeah, you have the boots for it
01:00:17.199 --> 01:00:20.840
right now. I do. I've been trying to get into
01:00:20.840 --> 01:00:27.239
more action -based. Yeah. Firing guns. Kim Hossable.
01:00:28.909 --> 01:00:30.829
Whips, I can't take credit for that joke. That
01:00:30.829 --> 01:00:32.889
one's from our sweet sweet intern. That's a good
01:00:32.889 --> 01:00:39.889
Kim possible Impossible Yeah, you see that little
01:00:39.889 --> 01:00:43.389
girl is doing this thing and she's like Kim possible
01:00:43.389 --> 01:00:48.110
Okay, I actually don't know the show I just know
01:00:48.110 --> 01:00:50.269
that one meme of that girl from like 10 years
01:00:50.269 --> 01:00:52.909
ago singing that song No, but I should write
01:00:52.909 --> 01:00:56.869
an impossible vertical. What is she doing? She's
01:00:56.869 --> 01:00:58.750
a spy. She's a spy. Yeah, and you play great
01:00:58.750 --> 01:01:02.030
spies. You are a spy. I could have a little sidekick
01:01:02.030 --> 01:01:06.190
that's a man. A little man? A little dwarf man.
01:01:07.250 --> 01:01:08.949
A little munchkin man. Or like he was in a purse
01:01:08.949 --> 01:01:13.750
or something. A homunculus. I created him in
01:01:13.750 --> 01:01:17.030
a laboratory. He's literally like the Geico gecko,
01:01:17.170 --> 01:01:21.099
a man. Fetch me my keys. He crawls up onto my
01:01:21.099 --> 01:01:23.340
shoulder, and I'm like, did you see that? I saw
01:01:23.340 --> 01:01:24.300
that. It's like Mike T .V. You shrink him like
01:01:24.300 --> 01:01:29.119
Mike T .V. He sneaks into Gallus. Wait, did you
01:01:29.119 --> 01:01:32.920
ever watch, maybe not. Was there The Waverly
01:01:32.920 --> 01:01:34.460
Plays? A little bit, but it was a little bit,
01:01:34.460 --> 01:01:36.539
I was a little old, too old to be watching it.
01:01:36.780 --> 01:01:39.159
There was an episode when she had this little
01:01:39.159 --> 01:01:41.760
man, and she kept feeding him chocolate in her
01:01:41.760 --> 01:01:43.239
purse, and he would go crazy. Yes, so that's
01:01:43.239 --> 01:01:45.840
what we need. What was his name? Who do we remember?
01:01:46.119 --> 01:01:49.449
Little Man. Little man. Little man. Little man
01:01:49.449 --> 01:01:53.570
and her big spy. Going to that door. Yeah, he's
01:01:53.570 --> 01:01:56.170
so small he can climb through keyholes. Right,
01:01:56.590 --> 01:02:00.010
and he could be really the spy, the eye. Right,
01:02:00.070 --> 01:02:02.469
he's the spy, but you play the spy and everyone
01:02:02.469 --> 01:02:04.269
thinks that you're the spy, but really you're
01:02:04.269 --> 01:02:06.590
just a journalist. But really you have this tiny
01:02:06.590 --> 01:02:12.849
deformed brother that's a real spy. James, this
01:02:12.849 --> 01:02:15.670
is something that happened in magic, not biology.
01:02:15.730 --> 01:02:21.909
Oh, okay, sorry. Go, go little brother. All of
01:02:21.909 --> 01:02:24.489
these ideas are great. I'm gonna write them as
01:02:24.489 --> 01:02:29.690
you pour more. More creative juice. So you're
01:02:29.690 --> 01:02:31.389
writing, are you producing as well, or are you
01:02:31.389 --> 01:02:33.190
doing? I'm trying to, I'm getting into that.
01:02:33.389 --> 01:02:37.889
That is the next step for me. Yeah, it's a natural
01:02:37.889 --> 01:02:41.030
progression I feel like for women like you who
01:02:41.030 --> 01:02:42.849
have been on so many sets, you know what you're
01:02:42.849 --> 01:02:44.650
doing, you're smart, would you like some more
01:02:44.650 --> 01:02:47.150
shampers? Yeah, might as well. Once you hit 30
01:02:47.150 --> 01:02:50.469
vertis, you gotta, 30 vertis is the rule and
01:02:50.469 --> 01:02:51.969
then you gotta produce, right. For sure, and
01:02:51.969 --> 01:02:54.289
my mom's a producer. Oh, so it's in your blood.
01:02:54.409 --> 01:02:56.829
Right, my mom's a producer, my dad was an assistant
01:02:56.829 --> 01:03:00.900
director. I've grown up on sets doing production
01:03:00.900 --> 01:03:03.480
work as well. So what do they think about verticals?
01:03:03.940 --> 01:03:06.099
Are they into them or are they like, oh, this
01:03:06.099 --> 01:03:08.880
is pure cinema? Right, right, right. My mom loves
01:03:08.880 --> 01:03:12.880
them. My mom is totally on board. She wants to
01:03:12.880 --> 01:03:16.900
start producing some as well, which I would love
01:03:16.900 --> 01:03:19.019
to do some with her, but I would also like to
01:03:19.019 --> 01:03:21.360
do... things separately. It could be the locker
01:03:21.360 --> 01:03:23.519
room. You're like, mom, I gotta touch this guy's
01:03:23.519 --> 01:03:27.659
abs. You turn around. It might be good when you're
01:03:27.659 --> 01:03:30.320
first producing it to have her produce with you.
01:03:30.340 --> 01:03:31.380
And then you could be like, great, thanks so
01:03:31.380 --> 01:03:34.500
much, bye. No, for sure. She's definitely a great
01:03:34.500 --> 01:03:37.820
mentor. It's nice to learn things from her. And
01:03:37.820 --> 01:03:40.119
I mean, it's an interesting world now because
01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:42.139
she's learning from me with these verticals.
01:03:42.280 --> 01:03:44.320
You're the expert. These verticals are so different.
01:03:44.380 --> 01:03:46.219
It's a Wild West. Right. That's literally what
01:03:46.219 --> 01:03:50.010
she calls it. people have reached out to her,
01:03:50.590 --> 01:03:53.510
who she knows from Hollywood and when she used,
01:03:53.550 --> 01:03:55.550
because my mom used to do a lot with Disney and
01:03:55.550 --> 01:03:57.530
Nickelodeon, so people from that world are reaching
01:03:57.530 --> 01:04:00.610
out to her because my mom's posting all my stuff
01:04:00.610 --> 01:04:04.309
on Facebook. And so they're like, so what is
01:04:04.309 --> 01:04:06.469
this? Like, what is she doing? She's like, I
01:04:06.469 --> 01:04:08.389
have no idea, let me go ask my daughter. Right,
01:04:08.510 --> 01:04:10.630
so she's put me in contact with them, which is
01:04:10.630 --> 01:04:12.809
awesome because I've got to talk and meet some
01:04:12.809 --> 01:04:15.829
really cool people and kind of be the voice.
01:04:16.039 --> 01:04:19.079
of verticals to that. That's awesome. Which is
01:04:19.079 --> 01:04:23.440
awesome. And it's also pushed them to wanting
01:04:23.440 --> 01:04:25.980
to start to make them, which is great. And it
01:04:25.980 --> 01:04:28.800
gives me an opportunity to start producing with
01:04:28.800 --> 01:04:31.440
them and start writing for them or to introduce
01:04:31.440 --> 01:04:33.599
them to great directors, other writers, other
01:04:33.599 --> 01:04:37.119
actors that they should work with. And what's
01:04:37.119 --> 01:04:40.460
awesome is that they're asking me what needs
01:04:40.460 --> 01:04:43.260
to change? Like, what's not? Ooh, good question.
01:04:43.500 --> 01:04:47.139
What do you think? What's the answer? There's
01:04:47.139 --> 01:04:50.460
so much. Not the answer, but if you had to pick
01:04:50.460 --> 01:04:51.159
one thing that could change. This could be a
01:04:51.159 --> 01:05:00.739
10 -hour conversation. I think there needs to
01:05:00.739 --> 01:05:04.500
be more of a development in stories, and I don't
01:05:04.500 --> 01:05:08.949
think we need to fix what... isn't broken, but
01:05:08.949 --> 01:05:11.929
we just need to add to it. Add to the menu. Why
01:05:11.929 --> 01:05:14.550
don't we try and get more audiences? If you're
01:05:14.550 --> 01:05:18.730
releasing 10 projects a month, you only know,
01:05:18.789 --> 01:05:20.369
first of all, only two of those are gonna be
01:05:20.369 --> 01:05:21.969
hits. Neither one of them are gonna be hits,
01:05:22.369 --> 01:05:25.309
but take the money you're doing, make your eight
01:05:25.309 --> 01:05:27.639
verticals that you were already gonna make. and
01:05:27.639 --> 01:05:30.039
make two of them maybe a little bit different.
01:05:30.639 --> 01:05:33.920
Try something new. Have a more ensemble cast.
01:05:34.199 --> 01:05:36.719
Try a different story. Try and gain more audiences
01:05:36.719 --> 01:05:41.840
because we're so close. People are already asking
01:05:41.840 --> 01:05:46.940
questions. We're already in the spotlight enough
01:05:46.940 --> 01:05:51.539
where people know what verticals are. Six months
01:05:51.539 --> 01:05:53.980
ago, people were like, huh? Literally. Exactly.
01:05:54.159 --> 01:05:58.599
And I really want to be proud of the work that
01:05:58.599 --> 01:06:02.619
we're doing. And a lot of the times I am. And
01:06:02.619 --> 01:06:04.239
then sometimes you're like, can you please not
01:06:04.239 --> 01:06:06.599
run over me with a car? Right. But it's things
01:06:06.599 --> 01:06:11.099
that are so easily changed also. Right. We're
01:06:11.099 --> 01:06:13.159
doing a billionaire gala and we have plastic
01:06:13.159 --> 01:06:16.320
champagne that kills me and you know, I'll bring
01:06:16.320 --> 01:06:29.079
mine home It's where we're not resting. But you
01:06:29.079 --> 01:06:31.059
know what I mean? No, but also it's so clear
01:06:31.059 --> 01:06:33.099
because, you know, it's gonna be everyone's drinking
01:06:33.099 --> 01:06:34.880
plastic champagne cups except for the villain
01:06:34.880 --> 01:06:38.340
who's gonna throw the, you know, the rock, the
01:06:38.340 --> 01:06:42.179
rock salt. Also, why are we doing that? Like,
01:06:42.260 --> 01:06:45.579
is it for shock factor? But people have seen
01:06:45.579 --> 01:06:47.539
this already. We've done it so many times. I
01:06:47.539 --> 01:06:49.739
just want someone to pick, I mean, I want something
01:06:49.739 --> 01:06:52.460
not like, I want someone to drop it and it doesn't
01:06:52.460 --> 01:06:54.360
break. And then they pick it up and smash it
01:06:54.360 --> 01:06:56.920
across their face. That is incredibly violent.
01:06:57.500 --> 01:06:59.260
They're picking up a piece of glass and threatening
01:06:59.260 --> 01:07:02.260
to, like, cut them. That's what you want? It's
01:07:02.260 --> 01:07:03.940
like 11 from Stranger Things. No, it's a Mr.
01:07:03.960 --> 01:07:06.239
X. Okay, Marie is now cut up in the champagne,
01:07:06.460 --> 01:07:09.280
she's threatening me. I'm not, this wasn't you.
01:07:09.820 --> 01:07:12.440
I mean, now it is. But I understand what you're
01:07:12.440 --> 01:07:14.280
saying. Like, let's switch it up a little. Yeah,
01:07:14.340 --> 01:07:16.360
let's like do a little more Mr. X and let's see,
01:07:16.400 --> 01:07:17.920
let's keep the people on their toes. Right, and
01:07:17.920 --> 01:07:22.539
I think there's also a huge, there's two huge
01:07:22.539 --> 01:07:25.599
markets that we're missing. Men. Feel like we
01:07:25.599 --> 01:07:27.639
don't the only thing that we're really grabbing
01:07:27.639 --> 01:07:31.480
them with if it's very Over sexualized or vulgar
01:07:31.480 --> 01:07:34.670
content kind of brings that audience in but we
01:07:34.670 --> 01:07:38.570
need some action stuff. There was just a secret
01:07:38.570 --> 01:07:41.150
godfather. My ex begs me on her knees, which
01:07:41.150 --> 01:07:43.010
is the first one I saw that was aimed towards
01:07:43.010 --> 01:07:46.150
a guy. But still, my ex begs me on my knees.
01:07:46.989 --> 01:07:50.570
It's guy fantasy. You're doing female fantasy,
01:07:50.690 --> 01:07:53.650
so do the guy fantasy. Divorced guy fantasy.
01:07:53.670 --> 01:07:56.989
They go on porn. No. We want more story than
01:07:56.989 --> 01:08:00.789
that, Marie. We're not animals. So it's either
01:08:00.789 --> 01:08:03.409
that. So you want a love story for guys, because
01:08:03.409 --> 01:08:05.949
they do have the one that just came out that's
01:08:05.949 --> 01:08:10.469
the top one, the call sign legacy on Real Short.
01:08:10.510 --> 01:08:14.190
My friend wrote that one. And then also Real
01:08:14.190 --> 01:08:16.329
Short has one coming out, the American Sniper.
01:08:16.489 --> 01:08:18.050
the last round, which there's no, but there's
01:08:18.050 --> 01:08:20.510
no romance in those. I mean, there might be romance.
01:08:20.569 --> 01:08:22.789
So that's the thing. So it's like either guns
01:08:22.789 --> 01:08:25.250
and planes or get on your knees. Revenge, you
01:08:25.250 --> 01:08:27.229
know, that's the guy, ultimate guy fantasy is
01:08:27.229 --> 01:08:29.609
like, oh, I have to do, I have to, you know,
01:08:29.890 --> 01:08:33.770
finally I'm able to kill dozens of people without
01:08:33.770 --> 01:08:37.130
feeling bad because they. killed my family in
01:08:37.130 --> 01:08:39.810
like a long last. I feel like there was that
01:08:39.810 --> 01:08:42.170
one that Jackson Taylor did speaking of where
01:08:42.170 --> 01:08:44.130
his like wife was killed by the mafia and then
01:08:44.130 --> 01:08:46.050
he met a new girl. He was a mafia boss but he
01:08:46.050 --> 01:08:47.989
was hard but he like brings these women into
01:08:47.989 --> 01:08:50.460
his like. he has all these women, and so you're
01:08:50.460 --> 01:08:52.899
like, he's kind of a bad guy, but then he really
01:08:52.899 --> 01:08:55.699
is just like heartbroken, and so it's like, but
01:08:55.699 --> 01:08:57.439
then he gets his revenge fantasy against the
01:08:57.439 --> 01:09:00.020
mafia, and the girl that he ends up with looks
01:09:00.020 --> 01:09:02.119
exactly like his dead wife, and it's like very,
01:09:02.699 --> 01:09:04.699
it was actually very, I was into, what is the
01:09:04.699 --> 01:09:07.399
name of that? I wish I could remember. I don't
01:09:07.399 --> 01:09:09.779
know. It was good. But, okay, so they're trying
01:09:09.779 --> 01:09:11.899
to bring in. They're trying, but I agree with
01:09:11.899 --> 01:09:15.000
you about action too, because the tricky part
01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:17.319
is these low budget verticals, it's like how
01:09:17.319 --> 01:09:21.609
do you sell It's hard. It's hard. But that's
01:09:21.609 --> 01:09:23.649
what I also think when it comes down, it also
01:09:23.649 --> 01:09:26.149
comes down to the casting. And I think a lot
01:09:26.149 --> 01:09:30.289
of, I get cast poorly sometimes. There's shows
01:09:30.289 --> 01:09:32.949
I've been in where I'm like, you guys could have
01:09:32.949 --> 01:09:35.130
found another actress who would play this better
01:09:35.130 --> 01:09:37.270
to have a 12 year old kid. I'm 24 years old.
01:09:37.649 --> 01:09:39.210
Why do I have a 12 year old kid? I'll take the
01:09:39.210 --> 01:09:41.590
job. I'll take the job. Thank you for the paycheck.
01:09:41.850 --> 01:09:46.760
But let's be for real right now. So I think there
01:09:46.760 --> 01:09:53.220
are so many actors who are stuntmen or who do
01:09:53.220 --> 01:09:56.380
this stuff for a living and who want to put them
01:09:56.380 --> 01:09:59.460
in a vertical. Do you know how awesome that would
01:09:59.460 --> 01:10:03.520
be? Like, I think they should use their resources
01:10:03.520 --> 01:10:07.079
wisely. I think they have this massive pool of
01:10:07.079 --> 01:10:09.020
talent, but they're not using talent in the right
01:10:09.020 --> 01:10:10.680
way. They're kind of just like, okay, you're
01:10:10.680 --> 01:10:12.079
big right now, we're gonna have you in these
01:10:12.079 --> 01:10:14.560
five projects. Okay, great. Here, here's for
01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:16.380
you, for you, for you. Because people just click
01:10:16.380 --> 01:10:18.340
on the face that they wanna see or the abs they
01:10:18.340 --> 01:10:20.020
wanna see. Right, and which is like, you can
01:10:20.020 --> 01:10:23.600
still use these actors, like they're talented,
01:10:24.020 --> 01:10:27.460
but if you have a girl that is really great at
01:10:27.460 --> 01:10:30.880
horseback riding, cast her and don't use the
01:10:30.880 --> 01:10:32.560
girl who's never been on the back of a horse,
01:10:32.600 --> 01:10:36.479
but she's just big right now. Or train her to
01:10:36.479 --> 01:10:38.539
ride a horse. Right, you have the money. Because
01:10:38.539 --> 01:10:39.899
that's what, remember when we were talking to
01:10:39.899 --> 01:10:41.439
Nicole Maddox, she said she did like two months
01:10:41.439 --> 01:10:43.899
of Muay Thai training for one, and I was like,
01:10:43.979 --> 01:10:46.239
see, that's like, okay, you don't know how to
01:10:46.239 --> 01:10:48.300
box, but you know, I believed it, and that's
01:10:48.300 --> 01:10:50.260
because. We're gonna vertical, it's about a down
01:10:50.260 --> 01:10:54.020
-in -his -luck stuntman who takes a job protecting
01:10:54.020 --> 01:10:58.220
a Cirque du Soleil. Acrobat. Oh, is she like
01:10:58.220 --> 01:11:00.140
a silks? Very flexible. She's very flexible.
01:11:00.140 --> 01:11:01.779
That would be really cool. Because this is the
01:11:01.779 --> 01:11:03.539
male gaze. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay, okay.
01:11:03.720 --> 01:11:05.859
This is the male gaze. And he's down to luck,
01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:08.720
and he has to protect this Cirque du Soleil,
01:11:08.760 --> 01:11:12.420
very flexible acrobat. It's called My Flexible.
01:11:13.460 --> 01:11:17.779
But here's the thing, all of the titles are from
01:11:17.779 --> 01:11:20.039
the females, like My CEO Daddy, My, da, da, da,
01:11:20.039 --> 01:11:23.600
da. Would it be My Very Flexible Cirque du Soleil
01:11:23.600 --> 01:11:27.039
Sweetheart? Job that pays me very well. Like,
01:11:27.260 --> 01:11:31.579
I think for, like, and I'm saying this as a female
01:11:31.579 --> 01:11:34.140
lead, but I don't think there always needs, it
01:11:34.140 --> 01:11:37.119
always needs to be centered around the goody
01:11:37.119 --> 01:11:42.739
two shoes female lead. I think we need to get
01:11:42.739 --> 01:11:45.600
away from that a little bit. Because honestly,
01:11:45.840 --> 01:11:48.819
people with issues are more fun. No, right. No,
01:11:48.840 --> 01:11:51.279
but that's what I'm saying. We have so much space
01:11:51.279 --> 01:11:56.810
for... more stories and more characters. And
01:11:56.810 --> 01:12:00.590
let's do it. You have so many talented actors
01:12:00.590 --> 01:12:03.930
in front of you who can do so much. What would
01:12:03.930 --> 01:12:08.090
be a good female lead that's not a goody two
01:12:08.090 --> 01:12:10.630
shoes? That you feel like would, yeah. Right,
01:12:10.810 --> 01:12:13.210
I mean. Character. Kind of what I was saying
01:12:13.210 --> 01:12:17.260
before, Catwoman. Someone who kind of. it's a
01:12:17.260 --> 01:12:20.140
revenge story. She goes after the people that
01:12:20.140 --> 01:12:24.760
maybe have done her wrong in the past. Or a villain
01:12:24.760 --> 01:12:27.380
origin story. I mean, there's so many - Killed
01:12:27.380 --> 01:12:29.300
her cat. It's like John Wick, but it's a girl
01:12:29.300 --> 01:12:30.960
whose cat died. But it's a girl whose cat died,
01:12:31.060 --> 01:12:32.800
and now she's gonna kill everyone. So a little
01:12:32.800 --> 01:12:34.239
tropey in the beginning, but we get away from
01:12:34.239 --> 01:12:37.300
that. Right, but like - Selena, Selena Katzenberg.
01:12:37.300 --> 01:12:39.619
You can still add romance in there, and maybe
01:12:39.619 --> 01:12:41.520
then one of her targets, she falls in love with.
01:12:41.520 --> 01:12:43.159
She falls in love, but she looks at him through
01:12:43.159 --> 01:12:44.779
the scope, and she's like - Right. Wait, are
01:12:44.779 --> 01:12:47.079
those abs? I can't kill this one. Are those real
01:12:47.079 --> 01:12:48.979
or painted? I think they're real. Literally.
01:12:50.420 --> 01:12:54.939
I think another great idea would be if you wanted
01:12:54.939 --> 01:12:57.899
to keep the same tropes of let's say royalty,
01:12:58.300 --> 01:13:00.539
like a prince and a princess, why don't you have
01:13:00.539 --> 01:13:02.300
the princess save the prince? The prince got
01:13:02.300 --> 01:13:06.340
kidnapped. And now this girl has to figure out.
01:13:06.600 --> 01:13:08.960
how to save him, and she puts herself in life
01:13:08.960 --> 01:13:10.880
and death situations. But she also is able to
01:13:10.880 --> 01:13:12.739
use something that he doesn't have, her feminine
01:13:12.739 --> 01:13:16.939
wiles, to get into rooms and be like, oh, big
01:13:16.939 --> 01:13:19.539
bodyguard who's locking this door. Exactly. Can
01:13:19.539 --> 01:13:23.000
you go move my car for me? And then she's like,
01:13:23.119 --> 01:13:26.279
I got you, let's run. Exactly. See, I would like
01:13:26.279 --> 01:13:29.739
that too, as long as there's a love story. See,
01:13:29.800 --> 01:13:31.800
I feel like there still needs to be. There will
01:13:31.800 --> 01:13:34.000
be. Still needs to be a love story for me. to
01:13:34.000 --> 01:13:36.399
be a female, like for me, but I'm one person.
01:13:37.140 --> 01:13:40.020
But I do, I agree with you. Also, that is a fantasy
01:13:40.020 --> 01:13:41.760
for women. Like a love story, like, you know,
01:13:41.859 --> 01:13:44.359
Hunchback of Notre Dame. Like, he's got, he's
01:13:44.359 --> 01:13:48.500
a beautiful soul. What about? Like Beauty and
01:13:48.500 --> 01:13:50.720
the Beast. Yeah, Beauty and the Beast is like
01:13:50.720 --> 01:13:52.720
that. He turns you into a hot guy at the end.
01:13:53.410 --> 01:13:55.909
Well, I mean, the hunchback in Notre Dame was
01:13:55.909 --> 01:13:59.409
just a hunchback, but he truly loved Esmeralda.
01:13:59.430 --> 01:14:01.470
Or you could do like a Princess and the Frog,
01:14:01.630 --> 01:14:04.550
and then maybe they could just stay frogs forever.
01:14:04.909 --> 01:14:06.850
Something like that. I don't want to watch frogs
01:14:06.850 --> 01:14:09.109
bone. Just some two freaky frogs, just freaking
01:14:09.109 --> 01:14:10.949
around. They breathe through their skin? How
01:14:10.949 --> 01:14:13.970
do frogs bone? A lot, they do it. It's pretty
01:14:13.970 --> 01:14:16.010
hot and heavy, I think, with frogs. They're always
01:14:16.010 --> 01:14:19.270
having babies. Lots of tadpoles. Tadpoles, baby.
01:14:19.829 --> 01:14:22.720
But speaking of Princess and the Frog, segue
01:14:22.720 --> 01:14:25.039
into the other demographic and audience that
01:14:25.039 --> 01:14:28.399
we're entirely missing, kids. I've been saying
01:14:28.399 --> 01:14:31.020
this for so long. Who's spending the most money
01:14:31.020 --> 01:14:33.680
on a phone, on a game, on an app? Kids. Who's
01:14:33.680 --> 01:14:36.579
on the phone all day scrolling? Parents. I've
01:14:36.579 --> 01:14:39.640
babysat kids. I've seen parents with kids. All
01:14:39.640 --> 01:14:42.159
they wanna do is shut their kid up and they'll
01:14:42.159 --> 01:14:44.060
just put an iPad in front of them. They'll try
01:14:44.060 --> 01:14:46.180
and find something on Disney Plus that they can
01:14:46.180 --> 01:14:50.760
just put on for hours. Why not? Yeah, just like
01:14:50.760 --> 01:14:55.880
mom Bluey just got slapped What's going on why
01:14:55.880 --> 01:15:03.920
are they humiliating Bluey But remember Disney
01:15:03.920 --> 01:15:06.420
Channel Wizards of Waverly Place Hannah Montana
01:15:06.420 --> 01:15:09.619
these Children's one just came out. That's really
01:15:09.619 --> 01:15:12.159
really good called electric bloom I don't know
01:15:12.159 --> 01:15:14.460
if you've seen that plug for our friends. I mean
01:15:14.460 --> 01:15:16.279
it's but it's really good. It's like it's a very
01:15:16.279 --> 01:15:19.350
like Hannah Montana, and it's a girl band. It's
01:15:19.350 --> 01:15:21.250
kind of like, people were saying like, oh, it's
01:15:21.250 --> 01:15:24.010
K -pop Demon Hunters -esque, which it was developed
01:15:24.010 --> 01:15:27.289
first, so actually K -pop is electric bloom,
01:15:27.449 --> 01:15:30.289
but it's very like for kids, it's for girls of
01:15:30.289 --> 01:15:32.550
a certain age, and it's like about female friendship,
01:15:32.630 --> 01:15:34.550
and there's music, and there's a guy, and it's
01:15:34.550 --> 01:15:36.970
like, oh, this is, that could totally be a vertical,
01:15:37.149 --> 01:15:40.529
because it's like, you know? No, right, and like,
01:15:40.670 --> 01:15:45.899
the style of... Acting is already there. It's
01:15:45.899 --> 01:15:49.199
a little more heightened in your face about it.
01:15:49.319 --> 01:15:53.060
You're showing your emotion on your face. The
01:15:53.060 --> 01:15:55.539
comedy is there for it. The fast pacing is already
01:15:55.539 --> 01:15:57.939
there for it. I mean, you're talking to the Disney
01:15:57.939 --> 01:16:01.159
execs. Get this happening. No, right. Like I'm
01:16:01.159 --> 01:16:04.319
considering writing some kids stuff because I
01:16:04.319 --> 01:16:08.869
really think we are missing a massive... massive
01:16:08.869 --> 01:16:10.510
market. Yeah, and all you have to have is a couple
01:16:10.510 --> 01:16:12.329
of kids, you know, melting down when they hit
01:16:12.329 --> 01:16:15.430
the paywall. Right, right. Parents are bringing
01:16:15.430 --> 01:16:18.909
out that Apple pay. Let's go. I know I would
01:16:18.909 --> 01:16:22.149
do stuff like kids content. I know a bunch of
01:16:22.149 --> 01:16:24.930
people would. It's similar to what we're doing
01:16:24.930 --> 01:16:28.250
now, but yeah, opposite, not spicy. And also
01:16:28.250 --> 01:16:30.149
then you actually get to have a child on set
01:16:30.149 --> 01:16:34.270
that you're not like. Exploiting or saying they're
01:16:34.270 --> 01:16:36.789
gonna die or using for you know what I mean?
01:16:37.029 --> 01:16:39.310
I hate I can't stand when the kids are in and
01:16:39.310 --> 01:16:41.909
I'm just I don't do them Just like stop hurting
01:16:41.909 --> 01:16:45.890
the child. I won't I can't I turn down roles
01:16:45.890 --> 01:16:50.770
if I have to Abuse or bully a kid in any I don't
01:16:50.770 --> 01:16:52.670
even know why those exist. It's just like what
01:16:52.670 --> 01:16:56.350
her horrible I can't they're terrible and like
01:16:56.350 --> 01:17:00.640
also these kids that we work with, yes, a lot
01:17:00.640 --> 01:17:03.840
of them are more mature for their age because
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they're working, but they're still kids. They're
01:17:07.680 --> 01:17:11.079
still five -year -olds, and when I have to pretend
01:17:11.079 --> 01:17:14.000
to kick a kid and tell them how much I hate them
01:17:14.000 --> 01:17:16.520
or how hideous they look, it's like you shouldn't
01:17:16.520 --> 01:17:18.680
be saying that to a kid at that age. Yeah, because
01:17:18.680 --> 01:17:20.359
it's hard to, I think. Look what happened to
01:17:20.359 --> 01:17:22.819
the Stranger Things cast. They came out so weird.
01:17:24.939 --> 01:17:28.880
but very rich. I love Stranger Things. I love
01:17:28.880 --> 01:17:30.520
Stranger Things. I do too, it's so good. Did
01:17:30.520 --> 01:17:32.819
you guys watch? I did, I have to say. I haven't
01:17:32.819 --> 01:17:35.560
finished, I haven't finished. I'm not gonna say
01:17:35.560 --> 01:17:37.779
any spoilers, but I had to go watch a rewatch.
01:17:37.819 --> 01:17:42.500
The first season is so good. It's so incredible.
01:17:42.880 --> 01:17:44.180
That's why it went for so many seasons, because
01:17:44.180 --> 01:17:45.300
they're like, maybe next season we'll get back
01:17:45.300 --> 01:17:46.279
to the first season. But the second season almost
01:17:46.279 --> 01:17:49.220
immediately became like the Goldbergs, like a
01:17:49.220 --> 01:17:50.619
scary Goldbergs. I didn't like the second season.
01:17:50.619 --> 01:17:53.800
Because it's just all these 80s references. It's
01:17:53.800 --> 01:17:57.020
all it is. They're referencing aliens. Am I that
01:17:57.020 --> 01:17:59.579
young? No, it's a sitcom that was on. It was
01:17:59.579 --> 01:18:02.699
on, went for a long time on ABC. But it's basically
01:18:02.699 --> 01:18:07.680
about the creator's 80s childhood. So it's still
01:18:07.680 --> 01:18:10.380
a bunch of references to 80s movies and that's
01:18:10.380 --> 01:18:12.060
what Stranger Things became. It's like, hey,
01:18:12.079 --> 01:18:14.880
remember this from the 80s? Breakfast cereal,
01:18:15.220 --> 01:18:18.079
Cap 'n Crunch. Yeah, I was annoyed by season
01:18:18.079 --> 01:18:19.600
two and then I stopped watching and then I had
01:18:19.600 --> 01:18:21.319
to go back and be like, fine, I'll get back in.
01:18:21.340 --> 01:18:25.119
I love Stranger Things. One of my best friends
01:18:25.119 --> 01:18:27.720
had never seen Stranger Things, so I was like,
01:18:27.720 --> 01:18:29.819
okay, I'll rewatch it. You're like, yes, I get
01:18:29.819 --> 01:18:34.380
to rewatch it. So, this is so bad. I wasn't filming,
01:18:34.460 --> 01:18:37.220
I just wrapped a shoot, so I was just tired emotionally,
01:18:37.460 --> 01:18:42.279
physically. For three days straight, we did nothing.
01:18:42.380 --> 01:18:44.840
Yeah, dude. But watched Stranger Things. That's
01:18:44.840 --> 01:18:48.100
right. And I just immersed myself into that world,
01:18:48.500 --> 01:18:51.270
and I think we got through like... two and a
01:18:51.270 --> 01:18:53.289
half, maybe three seasons of it. Yeah, that's
01:18:53.289 --> 01:18:55.470
how, I fell in love with a guy watching Battlestar
01:18:55.470 --> 01:18:58.369
Galactica for 31 days. Really? That's all we
01:18:58.369 --> 01:19:00.430
did. What? We just watched Battlestar Galactica
01:19:00.430 --> 01:19:02.609
and fell in love. Oh, with a guy, oh, not a character
01:19:02.609 --> 01:19:03.949
from Battlestar. No, we watched it, we watched
01:19:03.949 --> 01:19:05.310
it, the character. We watched it with a guy,
01:19:05.529 --> 01:19:06.829
we became a boyfriend because all we did for
01:19:06.829 --> 01:19:09.609
31 days was eat Chinese food, bang, and watch
01:19:09.609 --> 01:19:11.750
Battlestar Galactica. Hey, that sounds like a
01:19:11.750 --> 01:19:14.449
dream. Right? I don't know about Battlestar Galactica.
01:19:14.449 --> 01:19:17.390
It's so good, you gotta watch it. Oh, what about
01:19:17.390 --> 01:19:22.090
sci -fi verticals? Wait, there's no money. Who
01:19:22.090 --> 01:19:24.090
is gonna put up the money? I would do it. Just
01:19:24.090 --> 01:19:26.909
go to Van Nuys Airport and get an old plane and
01:19:26.909 --> 01:19:29.449
make it look like a spaceship. That's all you
01:19:29.449 --> 01:19:32.149
gotta do. And you'd watch that. There you go.
01:19:32.350 --> 01:19:34.430
You'd watch that. Go get one of those things
01:19:34.430 --> 01:19:35.930
I have in my daughter's room where I put stars
01:19:35.930 --> 01:19:37.829
on the ceiling. No, we should go to one of those.
01:19:37.989 --> 01:19:39.229
I would do it if we got to go to one of those
01:19:39.229 --> 01:19:42.329
zero gravity places and we were all floating
01:19:42.329 --> 01:19:44.850
through the air. Yes, that's one day. You gotta
01:19:44.850 --> 01:19:46.010
do all your floating in one day. Well, because
01:19:46.010 --> 01:19:48.829
you know who goes up into space a lot? Billionaires.
01:19:49.270 --> 01:19:54.510
Okay, they always are open space. Yeah, I know.
01:19:54.609 --> 01:19:56.869
I kind of watched part of it and then I was like,
01:19:56.909 --> 01:19:59.510
did you see the Luigi Mangione vertical? But
01:19:59.510 --> 01:20:00.909
I keep seeing that guy's face everywhere. He
01:20:00.909 --> 01:20:02.989
looks like him. He does look like him, but it
01:20:02.989 --> 01:20:05.329
was super weird. The funniest part of it is that
01:20:05.329 --> 01:20:07.869
it's not based on any person's life or death.
01:20:07.949 --> 01:20:11.170
And then it's like Sergio Macchione murdered
01:20:11.170 --> 01:20:15.659
a CEO. Like what? No, I'm pretty sure this is
01:20:15.659 --> 01:20:18.119
based on something pretty real. Literally, if
01:20:18.119 --> 01:20:20.460
my sister has cancer, that's also what happens.
01:20:20.739 --> 01:20:22.939
It's funny, so one of the first, actually the
01:20:22.939 --> 01:20:25.779
first vertical I ever led was for real short,
01:20:26.159 --> 01:20:31.460
the three badasses who want me. Yeah. And my
01:20:31.460 --> 01:20:34.979
name, I don't even remember what my name was.
01:20:35.439 --> 01:20:39.060
Emma Stone. Emma Stone. It was like Angela something,
01:20:39.479 --> 01:20:44.239
but. My assistant was Ellen Musk and it was supposed
01:20:44.239 --> 01:20:47.579
to be Elon Musk in every character's name and
01:20:47.579 --> 01:20:50.979
it was supposed to be some sort of big public
01:20:50.979 --> 01:20:54.859
figure that they just like Tweaked the name Ronald
01:20:54.859 --> 01:20:58.560
Tronk. No, literally I think there was one, it
01:20:58.560 --> 01:21:01.140
was like Ronald Trump. Ronald Trump. I'm not
01:21:01.140 --> 01:21:02.699
even kidding. So they just basically changed
01:21:02.699 --> 01:21:05.760
the first name and kept the second names, like
01:21:05.760 --> 01:21:09.460
Ellen Musk, Ronald Trump, Donald Reagan. That's
01:21:09.460 --> 01:21:12.140
exactly what they did. I'm not even kidding.
01:21:12.399 --> 01:21:15.979
It was insane. That project was crazy. That is
01:21:15.979 --> 01:21:19.979
so bananas. Oh god. Verticals, man. Seriously.
01:21:20.680 --> 01:21:22.380
What are you gonna do? Jess, you are so fun to
01:21:22.380 --> 01:21:24.020
talk to. I feel like I would sit here all day.
01:21:24.640 --> 01:21:26.859
Cookies are so good. I wanna have a cookie. The
01:21:26.859 --> 01:21:30.479
cookies are fantastic. So I cannot wait to see
01:21:30.479 --> 01:21:33.460
the one coming out on December 9th. Yes, Bad
01:21:33.460 --> 01:21:35.460
Biker. Bad Biker, we're gonna watch that. If
01:21:35.460 --> 01:21:39.970
you like abs. Oh, you hear that? I do, I do hear
01:21:39.970 --> 01:21:43.109
that. What did she say? I'm sorry, abs. Real
01:21:43.109 --> 01:21:45.649
abs, not fake, not painted abs. Real abs. You
01:21:45.649 --> 01:21:48.189
know what, I will always throw that in your face.
01:21:48.409 --> 01:21:50.890
I am an ab expert, an ab spurt. You are an ab
01:21:50.890 --> 01:21:55.289
spurt. She is an ab spurt. It sounds weird. Yeah,
01:21:55.630 --> 01:21:57.449
she spurts for abs. I think I like it. She spurts
01:21:57.449 --> 01:22:02.100
for abs. I like it. She's an ab squirt. Take
01:22:02.100 --> 01:22:03.680
it back, take it back, take it back, take it
01:22:03.680 --> 01:22:05.520
back, take it back. I got a cookie in my hand,
01:22:05.739 --> 01:22:07.739
okay? But yeah, you're gonna love that one. That
01:22:07.739 --> 01:22:11.600
one's fun. I'm actually really curious to see
01:22:11.600 --> 01:22:15.159
how fans react to that because it is a different
01:22:15.159 --> 01:22:17.319
story and pacing from your typical, right? Is
01:22:17.319 --> 01:22:19.239
it like Sons of Anarchy kind of vibes? Similar
01:22:19.239 --> 01:22:23.119
vibes, yeah. I play, I'm also a surgeon. Oh,
01:22:23.380 --> 01:22:26.119
so exactly like Sons of Anarchy. Right, right.
01:22:26.899 --> 01:22:30.119
So very Sons of Anarchy vibes. But it's great,
01:22:30.260 --> 01:22:33.920
the acting, it's definitely, as the director
01:22:33.920 --> 01:22:38.159
told me today, that it's an actor's piece. If
01:22:38.159 --> 01:22:41.960
you want to watch a lot of character development
01:22:41.960 --> 01:22:45.119
and story development by actors, it's a show
01:22:45.119 --> 01:22:49.279
for you. Is there a lot of mid -century Chicago
01:22:49.279 --> 01:22:53.060
accents in the bike riders? No. Honestly, no,
01:22:53.159 --> 01:22:58.079
there's not. There's more southern accents than
01:22:58.079 --> 01:23:00.659
anything. And it's me with three male leads.
01:23:01.560 --> 01:23:04.300
So if you like them, if you like the boys, go
01:23:04.300 --> 01:23:05.899
watch Bad Biker. Can't wait, we're gonna watch
01:23:05.899 --> 01:23:07.800
it December 9th. This is your thing, three badasses
01:23:07.800 --> 01:23:11.800
who are into you again. This is a kind of a common
01:23:11.800 --> 01:23:14.750
occurrence. Yeah, wow. Because you're so much
01:23:14.750 --> 01:23:16.909
woman you need three men. Yeah, just all the
01:23:16.909 --> 01:23:18.890
men are fighting. They're fighting the name of
01:23:18.890 --> 01:23:21.189
my vertical I'm so much woman. I need three men.
01:23:21.189 --> 01:23:25.310
I'm so much I'm gonna write that down. I'm gonna
01:23:25.310 --> 01:23:29.590
cast you a drunk mom because I'm a little old
01:23:29.590 --> 01:23:32.810
professional drunk mom first of all You are not
01:23:32.810 --> 01:23:33.909
old to be a star. You don't even know how old
01:23:33.909 --> 01:23:35.970
I am, honey. You look like you're 30. Thank you
01:23:35.970 --> 01:23:38.029
very much, I am not 30. Well, we're gonna pretend
01:23:38.029 --> 01:23:39.930
you are, and you're not old enough to be. Even
01:23:39.930 --> 01:23:42.350
if you were 90, you're not old enough to be,
01:23:42.369 --> 01:23:47.090
I mean. Ooh, age gap. Hey! It's like an old lady
01:23:47.090 --> 01:23:49.850
in Three Hot Nudes, I'm like, coming to my tiki
01:23:49.850 --> 01:23:52.569
hut. They're doing a lot of age gap stuff now
01:23:52.569 --> 01:23:54.970
with older women. Thank God, I can't wait. I'll
01:23:54.970 --> 01:23:57.609
be that, let me be that. You crushed that, absolutely.
01:23:58.189 --> 01:24:01.850
Island resort owner. Oh, yes, Glade Maxwell and
01:24:01.850 --> 01:24:14.710
Jeffrey Epstein Not based on a real person's
01:24:14.710 --> 01:24:16.609
life first of all, I was thinking about this
01:24:16.609 --> 01:24:20.859
how sexist is it that people think? that Jeffrey
01:24:20.859 --> 01:24:23.840
Epstein was in charge, when obviously, Galena
01:24:23.840 --> 01:24:27.020
Maxwell is smart and capable to be a human trafficker
01:24:27.020 --> 01:24:30.960
by herself, okay? She was taking care of business,
01:24:31.560 --> 01:24:38.100
okay? Girl boss, she was girl bossing. She was
01:24:38.100 --> 01:24:40.859
girl bossing her way. He was just a pretty boy.
01:24:42.560 --> 01:24:44.880
He was a madam. He was the face. She was the
01:24:44.880 --> 01:24:46.960
brain. Oh my, obviously, but she was a madam
01:24:46.960 --> 01:24:48.520
because she made the women trust her. It was
01:24:48.520 --> 01:24:50.319
a fucking horrible thing. Stop talking about
01:24:50.319 --> 01:24:54.039
it. Can we just please have another cookie? Shove
01:24:54.039 --> 01:24:56.460
a cookie in it. All right, well thank you guys
01:24:56.460 --> 01:24:59.699
so much. This is so fun. Great talking to you
01:24:59.699 --> 01:25:01.840
Jess. Thank you so much. December 9th, Bad Biker.
01:25:01.840 --> 01:25:04.500
Bad Biker, December 9th. One more time? On Drama
01:25:04.500 --> 01:25:06.039
Shorts. Drama Shorts, all right. Drama Shorts,
01:25:06.039 --> 01:25:08.460
okay. Can't wait. Yes, thank you guys. This was
01:25:08.460 --> 01:25:10.119
so fun. Thanks for being here. Thanks for being
01:25:10.119 --> 01:25:12.939
here. Thank you. I mean, can she come on every
01:25:12.939 --> 01:25:16.399
day? She's the best. She is so, she's like so
01:25:16.399 --> 01:25:19.220
smart and funny and also her voice is so nice
01:25:19.220 --> 01:25:23.819
in my ears. Yes, soothing, easy on the eyes and
01:25:23.819 --> 01:25:29.880
the ears. Yeah. Very charming and you know, super
01:25:29.880 --> 01:25:32.479
smart. I think... Kids get a bright future ahead
01:25:32.479 --> 01:25:33.659
of her. She does, she does. She's a bright star.
01:25:33.680 --> 01:25:35.319
Also, I really liked your vertical, James. I
01:25:35.319 --> 01:25:37.239
think we should write that, wild man in the.
01:25:37.319 --> 01:25:40.159
Wild secret billionaire man. Yeah, saved. Yeah,
01:25:40.300 --> 01:25:42.739
if you want me to write that, us to write it,
01:25:42.760 --> 01:25:45.560
we'll write it together. Contact us and write
01:25:45.560 --> 01:25:48.920
us a check for cash. Yeah, check to cash, or
01:25:48.920 --> 01:25:50.579
Ms. Prostitute, either one. Or Ms. Prostitute,
01:25:50.640 --> 01:25:53.579
either one. Mr. Sex Worker. All right, well thanks
01:25:53.579 --> 01:25:56.800
so much for watching or listening. Yeah. And
01:25:56.800 --> 01:26:00.590
tune in next time. We love you. Bye bye, MDD
01:26:00.590 --> 01:26:00.750
out.