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Hello there, my name is Barton Williams and welcome back to matters.com.
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Well, opa, opa, opa.
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My next guest is from Athens, Valentina Kordi.
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Welcome to matters.com
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Thank you for having me, Barton
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Opa.
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I just love saying that.
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Valentina, straight into it.
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What matters to you and why?
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Well, at the moment, what really matters to me is closing the gap between what organizations state they value and what they value in practice.
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Because no matter how many leadership skills trainings and sessions organizations provide, it seems that still there is a big gap between what we say and what we do.
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And the last fifteen years actually th-this is what matters to me.
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This is why I've written the second book I've written, which is called in English, The Mirror Effect: What You See Is How You Lead, which is also published recently in Greece, and it has become a b- best seller.
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Because I, I really believe, and it's not only my belief, this is what I experience every day working with organizations, that we think we are doing very well with practicing values in the workplace, but in reality, we still have room for improvement
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Yeah, so, so basically you're saying, Valentina, correct me if I'm wrong, is that practice what you preach in a way?
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Is like, is, is in that g- getting, getting things very clear rather than just thinking about it, actually putting it into action.
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Is that what you're sort of saying?
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Is
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Yes, exactly.
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It seems that we preach to mass- too, too much, but we practice not that much.
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And to be honest, I feel that we live in this era where everybody is focused on personal development and in leadership and all these things.
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But we are closer to theory than to practice.
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And a, a business person could say a business owner could say,"Okay, why is that so important?" Because like it or not, it affects, if- affects deeply the performance of the, of the employees.
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How people feel in the workplace is what people bring as a result at the end of the day
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Yep.
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Now you tell us y- your, your, your best-selling book
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The title is The Mirror Effect.
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Yep, the mirror
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you what you see is actually how you lead, the result of your, of your leadership quality or what you exhibit through your own mindset and your own behaviors that you practice every day or the habits that you have developed which you see being mirrored in the workplace by the people you work together.
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So sometimes I hear leaders complaining that people don't show ownership or they don't value transparency, but this is what they do themselves
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tell, yeah, yeah, tell me how did you come about writing the book?
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And, and tell us about your background in, in, in business and leadership.
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Mm-hmm.
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Let's start from my background first.
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So I myself have worked around 15 years as the employer and also manager in various organizations.
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And then I opened my own small business.
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I run a, a boutique agency working with organizations in order to help them level up their culture and their leadership and also people's performance.
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And the reason why this matters to me and I wrote this book is through my experience leaders and business owners invite me to help them take their teams from A to B.
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And most of the times they focus on on their people and how we should change their people, how we should improve the mindset of, of their people or the habits they have developed.
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But one thing I say is that if I don't work with them, the top management, the leaders then this is of no use.
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Because indeed, what I've seen is that when you enter an organization, you see common behaviors exhibited in, in the whole organization.
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And when you look at the leader, at the top management, you realize where all these are coming from
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Mm-hmm.
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Mm-hmm.
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Tell me, t-talk about top leadership.
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What about the presence of males versus females?
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Have you noticed that there's still a predominance of males at the top leadership, and has that affected the way that you've had to guide people and educate people?
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Mm-hmm.
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Indeed, there is still a gap as regards the percentage of men leaders and female leaders which could say that it's improving, not so fast as maybe we would like.
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So this also plays a role and it's invo- it- it's very important also to say that sometimes based on our gender, we are allowed to, to show some behaviors, and we are not allowed to show some other behaviors.
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For example a male leader still cannot show his vulnerability, for example.
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On the other hand a female leader cannot exhibit her strength
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Yeah.
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Re-re-yeah, really interesting point.
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So I was just, brings me to my next question.
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What advice could you give to our female aspiring leaders out there?
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What, what would be s- if there were three things that you could pass on to our female listeners that are aspiring to be great leaders, what would you recommend there?
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Hmm.
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Sometimes when we imagine or envision ourselves becoming a leader, we use some role models, and we try to become someone else.
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My advice would be that we write down, we sit and we write down who we would like to be as leaders,
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yeah
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Based of course, first of all, in our own values.
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How would, would we feel that we practice leadership through specific values that actually brings brings us back, bring us back to our own authenticity?
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The more we get closer to authenticity, the better we become to whatever we do.
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And the second thing is to, to really observe things around us and within us consciously.
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The more we observe, we...
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the more we realize, and the better we, we do with something
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Hmm.
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No, great advice.
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Authenticity and observe.
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I think that's a real-- I think that's important for, for all genders, but fantastically put.
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F.
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Gastor Bully.
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Did I say it right?
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Yes.
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Okay.
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We're onto that part of the interview where we do the speed round now, Valentina.
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So I'm gonna hit you with the topics, and you can either say why it matters.
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You can say it matters and tell me why, or you can say it doesn't matter, or you can pass.
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But the real key thing here with matters.com is we want to know why.
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So if you, if you do have-- if you do respond, just let us know why.
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But remember you are safe there.
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If you don't want to comment, you can just say pass.
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Okay.
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Are you ready for the speed round?
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Yes, I am
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All right, here we go, Valentina.
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AI
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It matters to me because it's a great tool as long as we don't become too dependent on AI and we forget that we can we can use our brain and we can have we can have our own thoughts
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Excellent.
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Dogs
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Well, they, they do matter to me because I, I love them, but I- they don't matter at the same time because I, I don't have m- my own dog.
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So I don't have to take care of, of one
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what a great answer.
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Sport
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Lately they matter to me, especially resistance training because as we getting older and older it's very important to take care also of our muscles.
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Absolutely
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to support our body so that our body and also our mind can support us with our own goals and dreams
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Not that you're getting old.
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My gosh, you look y- it's that all that Athens sun that you're getting that's making look,
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I'm almost 50,
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Oh my God.
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Wow.
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Politics
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They matter to me because they affect everybody's life, and we can see that everywhere.
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But to me, it's a matter of actually utilizing politics for, for the better of humanity, not as a means of exhibiting our power or all, all the bad stuff.
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beau- beautifully answered.
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Art
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Not very close to art, meaning that I don't have a deep knowledge, but it matters to me because it reminds me that creativity plays a, a huge role in in our nature
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absolutely.
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Books, as in the old-fashioned books, not, not electronic books, books, the old paper books
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They matter to me, first of all because I'm a, a writer myself so I couldn't be a supporter of the books if if not, And, and that wouldn't matter to me.
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And of course I have many books.
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Most of them regard my expertise:
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Excellent
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human behavior, and habits
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Nice.
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I think I know the answer to the ne- next one.
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Exercise
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If we say that exercise is sports, I answered earlier, huh, to that
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Excellent.
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This one's next, next one's tricky.
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NASA as in the space NASA
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NASA.
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It doesn't matter to me at the moment because I don't have a concrete idea about what they are doing at the moment.
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Good answer.
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Yeah.
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Mental health
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Oh.
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It matters to me.
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And not only now in, in all the times it matters to me because if it's not only our body that it should be healthy, it's also our soul.
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And I, I think it's something that many people nowadays suffer from
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Yeah, beautifully put.
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And the last one, holidays
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Well, holidays matter to me because as I say no matter how high performers we are, we also need maintenance time like the machines.
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So holidays is a very nice means to, to have our maintenance.
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And of course it's almost summer, and I'm looking forward to it, to me, to it.
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So, holidays matter a lot at the moment
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Definitely.
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And when you're living in Athens, it matters to have holidays in Greece.
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I can vouch for that.
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I love, love your country.
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Look, thank you so much, Valentina.
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Look, before we go can you just tell our listeners where can they find you and where can they find your book and get in contact with you?
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Mm-hmm.
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Everyone who enjoyed this conversation can find me on LinkedIn, of course by my name, Dr.
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Valentina Kordi, and also through my website www.valentinakordi.com
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Fantastic.
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So there you have it.
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Efkaristo poli, Valentina Kordi.
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Valentina Kordi for matters.com.
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Thanks thanks for joining us
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Thank you, Barton
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Hello there, my name is Barton Williams and welcome back to matters.com.
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Well, opa, opa, opa.
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My next guest is from Athens, Valentina Kordi.
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Welcome to matters.com
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Thank you for having me, Barton
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Opa.
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I just love saying that.
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Valentina, straight into it.
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What matters to you and why?
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Well, at the moment, what really matters to me is closing the gap between what organizations state they value and what they value in practice.
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Because no matter how many leadership skills trainings and sessions organizations provide, it seems that still there is a big gap between what we say and what we do.
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And the last fifteen years actually th-this is what matters to me.
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This is why I've written the second book I've written, which is called in English, The Mirror Effect: What You See Is How You Lead, which is also published recently in Greece, and it has become a b- best seller.
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Because I, I really believe, and it's not only my belief, this is what I experience every day working with organizations, that we think we are doing very well with practicing values in the workplace, but in reality, we still have room for improvement
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Yeah, so, so basically you're saying, Valentina, correct me if I'm wrong, is that practice what you preach in a way?
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Is like, is, is in that g- getting, getting things very clear rather than just thinking about it, actually putting it into action.
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Is that what you're sort of saying?
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Is
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Yes, exactly.
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It seems that we preach to mass- too, too much, but we practice not that much.
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And to be honest, I feel that we live in this era where everybody is focused on personal development and in leadership and all these things.
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But we are closer to theory than to practice.
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And a, a business person could say a business owner could say,"Okay, why is that so important?" Because like it or not, it affects, if- affects deeply the performance of the, of the employees.
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How people feel in the workplace is what people bring as a result at the end of the day
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Yep.
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Now you tell us y- your, your, your best-selling book
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The title is The Mirror Effect.
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Yep, the mirror
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you what you see is actually how you lead, the result of your, of your leadership quality or what you exhibit through your own mindset and your own behaviors that you practice every day or the habits that you have developed which you see being mirrored in the workplace by the people you work together.
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So sometimes I hear leaders complaining that people don't show ownership or they don't value transparency, but this is what they do themselves
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tell, yeah, yeah, tell me how did you come about writing the book?
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And, and tell us about your background in, in, in business and leadership.
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Mm-hmm.
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Let's start from my background first.
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So I myself have worked around 15 years as the employer and also manager in various organizations.
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And then I opened my own small business.
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I run a, a boutique agency working with organizations in order to help them level up their culture and their leadership and also people's performance.
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And the reason why this matters to me and I wrote this book is through my experience leaders and business owners invite me to help them take their teams from A to B.
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And most of the times they focus on on their people and how we should change their people, how we should improve the mindset of, of their people or the habits they have developed.
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But one thing I say is that if I don't work with them, the top management, the leaders then this is of no use.
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Because indeed, what I've seen is that when you enter an organization, you see common behaviors exhibited in, in the whole organization.
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And when you look at the leader, at the top management, you realize where all these are coming from
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Mm-hmm.
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Mm-hmm.
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Tell me, t-talk about top leadership.
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What about the presence of males versus females?
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Have you noticed that there's still a predominance of males at the top leadership, and has that affected the way that you've had to guide people and educate people?
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Mm-hmm.
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Indeed, there is still a gap as regards the percentage of men leaders and female leaders which could say that it's improving, not so fast as maybe we would like.
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So this also plays a role and it's invo- it- it's very important also to say that sometimes based on our gender, we are allowed to, to show some behaviors, and we are not allowed to show some other behaviors.
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For example a male leader still cannot show his vulnerability, for example.
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On the other hand a female leader cannot exhibit her strength
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Yeah.
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Re-re-yeah, really interesting point.
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So I was just, brings me to my next question.
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What advice could you give to our female aspiring leaders out there?
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What, what would be s- if there were three things that you could pass on to our female listeners that are aspiring to be great leaders, what would you recommend there?
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Hmm.
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Sometimes when we imagine or envision ourselves becoming a leader, we use some role models, and we try to become someone else.
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My advice would be that we write down, we sit and we write down who we would like to be as leaders,
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yeah
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Based of course, first of all, in our own values.
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How would, would we feel that we practice leadership through specific values that actually brings brings us back, bring us back to our own authenticity?
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The more we get closer to authenticity, the better we become to whatever we do.
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And the second thing is to, to really observe things around us and within us consciously.
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The more we observe, we...
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the more we realize, and the better we, we do with something
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Hmm.
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No, great advice.
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Authenticity and observe.
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I think that's a real-- I think that's important for, for all genders, but fantastically put.
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F.
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Gastor Bully.
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Did I say it right?
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Yes.
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Okay.
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We're onto that part of the interview where we do the speed round now, Valentina.
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So I'm gonna hit you with the topics, and you can either say why it matters.
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You can say it matters and tell me why, or you can say it doesn't matter, or you can pass.
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But the real key thing here with matters.com is we want to know why.
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So if you, if you do have-- if you do respond, just let us know why.
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But remember you are safe there.
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If you don't want to comment, you can just say pass.
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Okay.
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Are you ready for the speed round?
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Yes, I am
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All right, here we go, Valentina.
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AI
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It matters to me because it's a great tool as long as we don't become too dependent on AI and we forget that we can we can use our brain and we can have we can have our own thoughts
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Excellent.
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Dogs
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Well, they, they do matter to me because I, I love them, but I- they don't matter at the same time because I, I don't have m- my own dog.
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So I don't have to take care of, of one
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what a great answer.
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Sport
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Lately they matter to me, especially resistance training because as we getting older and older it's very important to take care also of our muscles.
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Absolutely
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to support our body so that our body and also our mind can support us with our own goals and dreams
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Not that you're getting old.
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My gosh, you look y- it's that all that Athens sun that you're getting that's making look,
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I'm almost 50,
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Oh my God.
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Wow.
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Politics
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They matter to me because they affect everybody's life, and we can see that everywhere.
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But to me, it's a matter of actually utilizing politics for, for the better of humanity, not as a means of exhibiting our power or all, all the bad stuff.
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beau- beautifully answered.
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Art
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Not very close to art, meaning that I don't have a deep knowledge, but it matters to me because it reminds me that creativity plays a, a huge role in in our nature
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absolutely.
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Books, as in the old-fashioned books, not, not electronic books, books, the old paper books
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They matter to me, first of all because I'm a, a writer myself so I couldn't be a supporter of the books if if not, And, and that wouldn't matter to me.
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And of course I have many books.
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Most of them regard my expertise:
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Excellent
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human behavior, and habits
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Nice.
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I think I know the answer to the ne- next one.
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Exercise
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If we say that exercise is sports, I answered earlier, huh, to that
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Excellent.
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This one's next, next one's tricky.
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NASA as in the space NASA
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NASA.
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It doesn't matter to me at the moment because I don't have a concrete idea about what they are doing at the moment.
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Good answer.
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Yeah.
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Mental health
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Oh.
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It matters to me.
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And not only now in, in all the times it matters to me because if it's not only our body that it should be healthy, it's also our soul.
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And I, I think it's something that many people nowadays suffer from
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Yeah, beautifully put.
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And the last one, holidays
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Well, holidays matter to me because as I say no matter how high performers we are, we also need maintenance time like the machines.
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So holidays is a very nice means to, to have our maintenance.
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And of course it's almost summer, and I'm looking forward to it, to me, to it.
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So, holidays matter a lot at the moment
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Definitely.
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And when you're living in Athens, it matters to have holidays in Greece.
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I can vouch for that.
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I love, love your country.
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Look, thank you so much, Valentina.
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Look, before we go can you just tell our listeners where can they find you and where can they find your book and get in contact with you?
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Mm-hmm.
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Everyone who enjoyed this conversation can find me on LinkedIn, of course by my name, Dr.
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Valentina Kordi, and also through my website www.valentinakordi.com
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Fantastic.
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So there you have it.
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Efkaristo poli, Valentina Kordi.
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Valentina Kordi for matters.com.
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Thanks thanks for joining us
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Thank you, Barton
