MVP Explains Why Modern Wrestling Struggles to Create True Heels (EP. 69)

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Cuban assassin says, oh man, I got a good idea for you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is just a decision to be your new gimmick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You should be the stone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You should be the stone, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they should come out, be the stone, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I always say, the best promo, a heel can cut, is full of truths.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they know I'll never forget my glaze was the first person to tell me, business is done at the bar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Another day and another dollar as a holler to the world I'm not the way I'm living, I'm the good, you're not the girls I'm the parties and the club, I'm not the mama's and I clubs So the German engineer is sent on deep-dish guns So the tour of the world ain't seen in the fans I'm the water, do the input, take a picture, shake it hand Every day for me's in moisture tracking, I'll find a pearl I love the way I'm living, it's what a holler
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[SPEAKER_00]: How are you doing, brother?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't want to accept you well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exceptionally well, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exceptionally well, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exceptionally well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Plata?
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[SPEAKER_00]: He has still one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's still on that plata.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Plata.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, I'm on my ripple guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm just actually this auto plata as far as two kilos goes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's actually pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not my choice, like I wouldn't order this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not because it's bad or because it doesn't taste good, but because I don't like silver.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I prefer the taste, the flavor of an extra-on-gay or a repissant.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you said silver, that's more like for margaritas.
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[SPEAKER_00]: To me, to you, okay, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're gonna make some margaritas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: News, you know, some bonko silver, whatever, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's my taste.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Come on, right on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, oh, shout out to my people over at Half Sumo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Half Sumo, they make amazing fight where half Sumo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, if you guys were at my match for, uh, Bloods Fort, we're gonna drop coin it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just trust and fight get ahead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was produced by Half Sumo, the ghee that I had, half Sumo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're into mixed martial arts, grappling, striking,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever you're into, check out half-sumo, and the cool thing about half-sumo, they're based in Brooklyn, but they do limit it drops.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they don't make a lot of the same stuff over and over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even think they make these these tops anymore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they'll have a run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's dope right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's got the the only with the broken horn.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's, uh, jujitsu, Dallas rep Brooklyn.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So was your gear up for us for sale?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Could, yeah, they did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, sold out now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, sold out now, but yeah, it was, uh, so, yeah, big fan of, uh, half-sumo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You see me wearing this stuff off them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because, because I'm a fan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how it works.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, this hat you wearing today, I still need one of these joints, but, uh, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, Ryan behind the camera.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like some more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Chad, I was what standard over there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Smoky.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Smoky.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Help me out, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Come on, Deza.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Come on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know we brothers, Deza.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We brothers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't get to a heels hat, though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Those are in big demand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought there was a need for something to commissioner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It took me months to get a heels hat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was an explosive drop when you were in New Orleans.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think all of us since he texted messages or we should.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I didn't get one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Come on, they're working.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got me working, working, doing like, can't you get out?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, come on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Come on, dessert and gun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or L.S.
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[SPEAKER_00]: as VIP likes to call them Uncle West.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my God.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uncle, my God.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And on that note, uh, shall we talk a little wrestling?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk some wrestling, ma'am.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These got questions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to ask you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Always.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Every week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Pete, I saw a graphic that was floating around online.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was Brian Lass, he was sitting with Jeff Jarrett.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he was giving the some rules of being a heel that he had discussed with Jim Cornet on one of their shows.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I wanted to read these, the list of these rules to you and get your feedback and see that
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, which ones are still gospel and which ones modern wrestling maybe have thrown out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we got the other six of them here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So starting with number one, the heel doesn't have to be liked, but he must be believable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The heel should never be liked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all purpose of being a heal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're supposed to be a bad guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're supposed to be someone that is deplorable, reprehensible, disgusting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You should lie, you should cheat, you should steal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you can become president of the United States if you're a good enough healer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tell the city of Louisiana that they're the toilet bowl of the United States, is that the state of Louisiana.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I say, well, my whole chest, but that's the whole point of being a you to be disliked so that the baby face is immediately everyone's savior.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They like the baby face and they dislike you so that when that baby face kicks your ass, they're, yeah, we love it and you was a heal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But,
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[SPEAKER_01]: believability as a factor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They have to believe that you really are a dastardly unscrupulous individual.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I love being a heal man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I tell people how I'm booze or my cheers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love being a disliked character.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was so fun for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, through the years, the lines have, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: The lines between what's real and what's not no longer exist.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It used to be definitive lines like, you know, disguised, you know, with K-fave, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm back in the day when you were a healed, your life was at risk because you had people who legitimately protected their baby faces.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you know, you'd corned all the old school guys can tell you stories about their tires getting slashed and their vehicles getting vandalized and having to fight their way through the crowd to get back to the locker room and bleach was at bleep sprayed people with water gun squirting
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[SPEAKER_01]: People in the crowd, people like you got really, really serious, but these were people that believed that the bad guys were real bad guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When they cheated, they really believed they were cheating.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I believe the ability was there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you had this emotional connection to your baby face.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's your guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when you see somebody cheating him or you see somebody punching him in the back of the head behind the refs of the dog, I don't see that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's when it's being done at the best level.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, through the progression of our industry, now we all know that we're playing cops and robbers, you know that these are characters playing roles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And...
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some people are really good at it, and some people aren't, and it's also a little more difficult to be a traditional heal today, because you're trying to be a bad guy, and being a bad guy nowadays can get you fired, can get you cancel, you know, late.
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[SPEAKER_01]: People don't look at it and go, well, he's playing a character trying to be this light.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Could you say such a thing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, maybe the network might, oh my God, you can't say that on the network, you know?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's more difficult to be a true heal now, probably than it's ever been, but you can still do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You just have to be creative and talented to create other ways and your persona to make people dislike you, like the traditional chicken meal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like when he's getting this, oh my god, please don't hit him, but as soon as that baby face, he pokes him in the eye and you know, oh now he's tough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, you know, now, you know, what I say, did not take, well, put up, put up, put up, put up, put up, put up, put up, put up, put up, huh, and as soon as the baby said, well, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you touched on this a little bit with cheating, but number two here has heals, must cheat, always.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that's part of your despicable nature.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If a heal is just kicking ass and taking names, then what's not the like?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's Darth Vader, don't you know what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who doesn't like Darth Vader?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you considered a heal now?
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[SPEAKER_00]: because you just get cheered no matter what.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think now, man, we're even though we haven't really changed anything, we still wrestle the same way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I still cut primarily the same kind of promos.
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[SPEAKER_01]: People are just like not, he's got to be good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're the good thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, people are just good at being bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We like to see them come out and beat people up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, so we still come out the heel side on our entrances.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't change anything, they changed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, yeah, we love you, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And look at Findley.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's one of my all-time favorite examples.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Findley was a heal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Findley came out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My name is Findley, and I love to fight, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Really, what turned, well, put Findley over the top was that Dan Lepercon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Horace Wobble.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That Horace Wobble was so awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can I hate the Horace Wobble?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Horace Wobble would poke his head off and make a brain to hold a reader with your rug.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they get a thinly his own leprechaun and that's sealed it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I remember like hearing fans talk, thinly was so good at being a bad guy that wrestling fans nowadays, they're smart, they understand this guy's plan to bad guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So fans will go, man, he's so good at being a bad guy, I love that guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So thinly became a baby face, not because the office turned them, but the fans turned them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he never changed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't change his work style.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't change his problem.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He changed nothing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He did everything the exact same.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the fans decided, no, we like this guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stone Cold.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do Stone Cold change?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not one thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He just went from being a bad guy to the only thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing he changed is he was still the same character, said it did the same things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But now he did something that we all want to do at some point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: damn that you know and that makes it maybe face even though he didn't start hey I love you guys and you know yeah no he didn't change a bit but the fans this so when you're really really good at being a bad guy it's hard to stay a bad guy all right moving to number three the heels job is to get heat not to get over and it seems that martin martin wrestling arguably rewards the opposite
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's my opinion that nowadays a lot not all but a lot of people don't want to be real heels
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[SPEAKER_01]: They want to be cheered, or they want, oh, oh, you know, kind of a tweeter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a tweeter, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: tweeter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have the courage to be a face or a heal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because being a face isn't easy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just admit socially.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's way easier to get people to dislike you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is to get people to like you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He'll easier to be than a. Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, cause you're going out there and trying to smile and you know make friends and shake hands and kiss babies and do your best work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So people go, hey, I like this guy, you know, you can come out there and just make everybody in this building and kiss my So
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[SPEAKER_01]: Technically, it's easier to be a heal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, in terms of talent and execution, that's the different conversation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But to be presented as a baby face and to get over as one, is more difficult than to get over as a heal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As a heal, yes, you want to do things that make people dislike you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to do things that will make people cheer for you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You want to do things that will make people go,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hate this thing, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I remember on Anderson taught me a long time ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was teaching me little nuances of being a good heal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was showing me where there are certain things you can do as a heal that is not against the rules, but everybody just looks and goes, minus messed up, you have to do that, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were like, regal taught me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember when we know you hook somebody for a pit, and they kick out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll hook the leg again, but this time I put my forearm across their face, and put my elbow in their jaw.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not against the rules.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just kinda messed up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we could all agree like that, that's a big, you know, unnecessary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you already know kick out again, and I'll put my knee on their face, so I'll be like, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I've had referees and experienced referees.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Young who go, oh, you can't do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm just a pin, message to them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna get out of here, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's just the little things that you can do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then I try to tell them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And here's a message for young talent watching this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stop turning your back on your opponent to go address the crowd, to glow, stop doing that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: don't do that because you're wasting effort.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you have a baby face that you just knocked his dirt and he's on the ground.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You stand over them, because why would you walk five feet away to go her and look at me?
16:42.589 --> 16:45.750
[SPEAKER_01]: The person, visually, think about it, television.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're watching you on television.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's way more impressive to have this baby face at your feet and you're standing over them, hitting a pole, you're just, you know, looking around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You ain't got to say anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're just not this person down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're on the ground selling, and you just stand over them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just look around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just look, you think I have to do any people who are boo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a bad thing to know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or that was something I used to like to do, like this man right here, this should get right here on the ground, that my feet, your champion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This should get right here, this should get right here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, this, this man right here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh man, you know, like that's, that's, that's, that's ugly man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why would you do that?
17:32.048 --> 17:32.488
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mom, here's to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, you want to get here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You want to be disliked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now you're tough.
17:40.032 --> 17:43.514
[SPEAKER_01]: But as soon as something happens in that baby face catches you with something bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whoa, whoa, let me get out the ring.
17:44.354 --> 17:45.135
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me, classic MVP call the time out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whoa, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you're a coward!
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're a scare, you suck!
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm absolutely good at my job.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's getting heat and a lot of today's talent are scared to be real heels.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They want to be cheered.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They want to be like, they don't really want to go all in and be a real bad guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, number four, the heel must think he or she is right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: best promo, a heel can cut, it's full of truths.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Truth is hard, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: People don't want to hit a truth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You come out and you tell us some pain for uncomfortable truths.
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[SPEAKER_01]: People will hate you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I'm telling you the truth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You mad at me because I'm telling you the truth about your baby face when you love so much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why you mad at me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, you ain't mad at me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You mad at that person that you look at in the mirror.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You mad at me because you're overweight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have a miserable dead-in job.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Your wife is fat and ugly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You dream about being in the ring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You dream about looking like me, driving the kind of car I drive, laying up with the kind of woman I lay up with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what you want, but you failed miserably in life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't forget the house and the jewelry too, Pete.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They want that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's your life in the biggest house and the biggest part of town.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Last year, I made a million dollars.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That hurts my hurts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, well, yeah, of course the heel is right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And his, he's been wrong some kind of way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been, you know, done dirty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he believes, even if you don't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He believes it, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Number five, never make the heel look weak.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I believe that's open to interpretation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: because don't make the heel look weak, but when the heels on his knees begging off, that's weakness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The heels should... My, as I was taught, the heels only tough when he's winning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When he's losing, he's a chicken.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's say, well, hey, boy, don't stop him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, see somebody help, oh, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I like being that kind of a heal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think those are the best heals for my opinion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you can have the kick ass, you know, kick no names and you know that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Those kind of heals, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I like the heal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They, they, to me, the, the, the, the, the prototype Rick Flair heel.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look good, I dress good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm arrogant, I full of myself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I kick ass, I take names, and I always see to win, but I never cheat not me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, I had a grown, I told this before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had a grown man, eyes bulging, veins in his neck popping out screaming.
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[SPEAKER_01]: because I told him that Matt Hardy never beat me in a match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, wait, I saw Matt Hardy beat me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you never saw Matt Hardy beat me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw this happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I saw, I saw Matt Hardy beat you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Matt Hardy never beat me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, or he's brother Jeff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Me the one of them didn't make never beat me ever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this was outside of wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, this isn't in person.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Somewhere I forgot outside of a venue of bar or something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was losing his mind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You never beat me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know who you're sorry, you never beat me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, sorry, I don't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think... Because you never want to make a baby face look stupid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you never want to do it with a baby face.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You never want to go, hey, look over there, plup.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, okay, you know, you want your baby face to be sharp smart.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The heel gets over on the baby face but doing something underhanded.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sneaky, you know, just something something low, low red, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But in terms of the heel, you never look weak.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think the heel looks strong when he's on his knees big and off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: To hit the ball shot, you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's one open to interpretation, I believe, and for a number of six closing out on this list, the heel must have conviction in everything they do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because that's part of, you know, the heel being right, the heel believing in his cause.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When my career,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I MVP absolutely believed that he was the absolute best in the world and I could be anybody on any given day and I look better than you, I dress better than you, I smell better than you, I'm cooler than you, everything about me is better than you and I believe
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right, because I can legitimately walk most of the people in the locker room.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we don't like the little extra slag and put a little extra butter on that bread, you know, but character wise, yeah, the heel has conviction.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been wrong some kind of way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's going to write his wrong.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, some people are catching along the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if he has to cheat, if he has to lie, lie, cheat, steal, he has to do by any means necessary to achieve his goal of beating that baby face, winning that title, whatever the case may be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I agree with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing in this list that I disagree on is about the heel looking weak.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I need context on that for, because if you're a chicken, the term chicken shit heel, then you look weak.
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[SPEAKER_01]: if you're begging off because you're getting your skateboarding and that moment you look weak.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think the baby face can never look weak.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think it's okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the most situations, the heal, and the traditional chicken, your role, should have moments of weakness, and that's why you teach, and it does underhanded things to win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So guys, we'll put up a poll here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Once you guys to let us know which rule does modern wrestling break the most and comment the numbers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll give you the six rules all at one time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The heal doesn't have to be liked, but he or she must be believable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's number one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Number three, the heel's job is to get heat, not to get over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Number four, the heel must sink.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He or she is right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Number five, never make the heel look weak.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And number six, the heel must have conviction in everything that they do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So to make it clear, the baby face.
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[SPEAKER_01]: when he's over, you know he's over because of the cheers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When I'm music hits and the arena explodes in riotous applause and cheering, that's being over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: a heel shouldn't get that kind of reception.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As soon as that music hits, it should be like dirty dom.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Boom.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the heel's trying to cut a promo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They should intentionally be trying to drown him out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you can't hear a thing he's saying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, what did you say?
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[SPEAKER_01]: We hate you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's getting heat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to be cheered as a heel.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You want people to really dislike you and boy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So of the baby face is getting extreme tears
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[SPEAKER_01]: Booze, people won't let you talk.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then the dynamic is working properly and everyone is doing a job.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, comment, subscribe, and share.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When are we going to put up the cameras like capturing the content?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not seeing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We need to do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I'll get run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Lots of trouble.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mine behind the camera.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Lots of trouble.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We post that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: me, I have no soul, so it doesn't matter, you know, Sam, but Ryan, these young, impressively young man, you know, he's women have this certain opinion of him, and I just want to tell you, like, don't you believe in it, yeah, yeah, he's got what hell of a life coach, that's what you've changed that logo to RVP brother that
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I've been home all the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Instead of Ryan Williams visuals, Ryan visual production.
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[SPEAKER_01]: See, RVP.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ryan visual production.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we go RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP RVP
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, now I'd be careful with that, because sometimes when somebody shows up with a tattoo and you go, oh my god, I've seen that once and it discreetly terribly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You wish I sat to you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Of you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And MVP star logo tattoo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dark girl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh no, I mean, I mean, I mean, like a fan of fucking being here and being wrong with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's okay if that's what you got going on, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, RVD told me once specifically that we would we were tripping.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He told me that a piece of this fan did had a tattoo of him that had RVD tattoo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, and Rob said he was like, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo,
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, now, man, go, what would we talk about?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know, what do we talk about?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're talking about wrestling or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, the whole premise of this show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to ask you some questions, I believe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to give you some answers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, 10 for it, too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's all, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We take multiple episodes every one day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And as the liquor goes, the episodes get better and better and better and better.
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[UNKNOWN]: Platta.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the word for the day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Platta.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, today's episode is brought to you by the word, Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah
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[SPEAKER_01]: proper camaraderie post show is doing the hotel room listen the business is changed from what I came in joy it is now so like nowadays guys go back to the room and play video games and call their girlfriends and you'll do the locker room drinking protein shakes I came in at the end of the old era so
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[SPEAKER_01]: drinking bruise and then, and they know, I'll never forget, my glaze was the first person to tell me business is done at the bar and that's true, you know, when you're working with your peers getting a chance for people to get to know you because professional lessons of popularity contest and the office has to have a positive opinion of you, they have
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[SPEAKER_01]: Generally speaking, when you get people hang out at the bar and have some drinks after work and talk and joke and have camaraderie on the road, don't tell bar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But when I came in, man, it was ugly, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I used to be the young guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Afterwards, like the old some of the older veterans would be like, hey, Tony O' Banks coming out with us, man, you know, because they saw something in me that worked out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had talent, you know, and I want to go to the bar or the club or whatever, you know, like, yeah, I want to drink, but I want to taste the girls, you know, but these vets are telling me, come hang with them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We go back to the hotel room and it's shopping up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They got a couple of cases of both of
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll see you'll reserve her that wasn't a pool of playing pool reference.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was not the corner pocket.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember like, I'd be like, this is the fun to me, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm getting a lot of knowledge and telling stories at a great and I tell them, you know, but I'm like, I don't want to do this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the, the, the, the, the added business is done at the bar, you know, being social, having a few drinks, you know, I think that still exists, and I think that's across a lot of professions, you know, a little happy hour after we're at a socialization, you know, team building, you know, that kind of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I was very fortunate that most of the veterans that I met through the years had very good positive advice for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But when I first started, there were lots of guys that were like, all right, listen, you need to see me relax a while, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, how do pills, man?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You take one, two, one, the one, the one, no, the one, the one, the one, the one,
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[SPEAKER_01]: for your match, I don't know, I don't know, I don't like that stuff, you know, and so I tease all the time about the business or what not, and it's a long word.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, for a lot of the old nasty ugly habits, you know, they've given way to healthier, safer locker rooms and
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I remember dude, when I started when I got called up to the main roster, there were still at that point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stars, Hall of Famers did on the roster two day, face down in their food and catering.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One setting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that to relieve pain?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's the... Oh, my bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One point, guys, we're taking pain pills because, hey, you got an injury.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't work, you don't get pain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the abuse of the...
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[SPEAKER_01]: pharmaceuticals that I saw from guys that were friends of mine and some of them were no longer here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, the whole drug culture was a big thing when I started and it was a way to get in, a way to be accepted, a way to, you know, to become one of the boys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I used to bother me because remember when I came out of prison and enter wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, this was my first time away from
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not afraid to say, no, I'm good on that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, some guys will be like, what, you don't want to be like, you're talking to like that, you know, and they go away, take it easy, they respect that, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They would have to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, some of the real, you know, you got some of the poses that we're trying to act some kind of way, like, no, you could take that over there and then when you get there, take it a little further, you know, like, you know, like, you're
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I never got into the drug culture early on, but I would see other young guys who were trying to be accepted and trying to be cool, they would come up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Be like, hey, fellas, look what I got.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys, oh yeah, I brought some for everybody, you know, or they thought, you know, to be accepted, it would be cool to be all forgotten, all right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That just wanted to be accepted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You wanted to be cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that drug culture was something that was big.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Wellness Program came along, top down effect.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There were no shaking pill bottles in the locker room anymore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that culture of sharing pills got decimated with the Wellness Program.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now we should joke around and say, man, ever since he started the Wellness Program, I don't feel so well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it saved lives, and the grand scheme of things that truly did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I was lucky, like I said, that so many of the veterans who gave me advice as I was coming up gave me really good strong advice and not too many of them told me to do something that, you know, I shouldn't do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll
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[SPEAKER_01]: Day, always good to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He and his life fantasy, always good to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Took such a good care of me to help my career super good to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had no bad to say about him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: However early on, Cuban assassin was a staple in the temple.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm Antonio Banks, building up my name, coming up, and the rock was massive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's no bigger style wrestling at that point than the rock.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Cuban assassin says, oh man, I got a good idea for you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is just a decision to be your new gimmick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You should be the stone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You should be the stone bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they should come out be the stone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, uh, uh, I would stick with his banks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And uh, you know, I saw some time ago we laughed about it, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The stone says, well, you know what the stone says?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, nah, I'll pass on that one day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's been, there's nothing to do with that man, but there's our work for this episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see what if we feel like the stone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me flip it on you, then, Pete.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, did you, when you became a veteran, did you pass any advice down that you later wish you could take back, to, you know, like a young cat?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm sure I gave lots of bad advice along.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like if Ryan terribly face all the time, I'd like to say we need to cut to that documentary style, Ryan, would you sit and down on a chair and watch what's I can't work?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not that I can remember except that I will admit to being a bit of a bad influence on the hey, let's go out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hell, because you had guys that literally would go to their own, set up their video game and call their wife or girlfriend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'd be like, oh, what's what are you doing, man?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going back to their own and play video games, we're in whatever city.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, man, what is wrong with you, you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to see your crew in LA.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was a fire crew late night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey man, I remember the first time I took a rich on the road and it was after a, I'm going to say it was, I think it was important then.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And afterwards we went to the little spot and everybody's hanging and we walked in and there's liquor and there's, you know, whatever whoever was into.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the first thing because the rich goes, oh, you hang out with the bad kids.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you're the leader of the thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not the leader, I'm not the leader, but I might be part of the joint chief society.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're on the board, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Come on, board.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not the director of the board.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm probably on the board.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know what man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a big believer in pay it forward.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I think, and there I could be forgetting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe there's somebody who will long to wake and go, yeah, MVP told me one time, and you know, maybe I don't know, but I generally try to give good advice because I was given good advice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was,
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[SPEAKER_01]: taking care of them that well and I tried to give that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's what from what I can remember I was probably uh had something to do with Stan out of league and getting drunk and chasing women, you know
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we got a paper for you tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but there's another paper for you next month too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't worry about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just, you know, this is, this is what the whole school guys just do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Go party hard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you really, if you really bite about it, go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't get that 15 minutes and act like you're not home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Act like, like, like you wasn't up all night doing the naughty, with, with, however, whomever, you know, what, you know, so I'm probably guilty of doing that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I can't think of any, like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: legit, like bad advice than I gave somebody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And even that, you know, if that's a bad advice, a good advice, that's kind of subjective.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the lives of your life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, so, I was thinking to die, but, you know, you know, who are my minds at?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I kind of not a renegade.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, she knows weird to me, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, right here, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm not saying she's an unattractable woman, but she's just kind of weird to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of Something about her physical attributes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I tried to woman, but she's not somebody on my list and I go if you gave me one opportunity Okay, she wouldn't she wouldn't even crack the top 10 doesn't Michelle gonna come through the stream if I ask you this question brother.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, chat
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[SPEAKER_00]: We getting a big nut Chad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We get a big nut.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys see how orchestrate that That I would put a head of Rihanna Yeah, man, you know, you know why just come on come on all right come on Yeah, come on all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Give me one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You put a head of Rihanna
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he only watches movies from the 90s, no, no, Lisa Ray is beautiful, understand that, but what about right now?
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[SPEAKER_00]: People that the audience may know, this folks all around the world, let's use a huge star.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's thinking guys, Coco Jones.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She is the fiancee of a basketball player, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Donovan Mitchell, Cleveland, Cala, no idea.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She hasn't broken that level of starting yet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[UNKNOWN]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, you know who I discovered recently, who I got, I got a big crush on man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who's that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when I, I'm gonna tell the story real quick, I discovered it because it's funny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My algorithm just, you know, my YouTube algorithm is just feeding me stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I discovered Lama Lama Red Pajama.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a Lama Repajama, the book everybody reads, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, for that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I forget they rapid and sing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
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[SPEAKER_01]: red picture.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, she needs to make that an actual song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She needs to release that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The vocals and how she look.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just like, yo, I'm late to this call of you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's staying wet like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, maybe that might be my new crush.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Khali Uchi's man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You all know who this Khali Uchi's?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you know somebody that knows her, please make the intro to Noji, cause I would like to personally tell her hello.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just click this episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we can have some plata together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Plata?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you know, please one, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Khali Uchi's just saying, you know, Noji is a fan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'd like to put on some red pajamas and talk a little llama llama.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, here we go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right on that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, she's just a shot man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, listen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, boy, this is definitely a hurry, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Listen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna give it to you all, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not even afraid to tell you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw Chelsea Handler said that she made a comment about her.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She was going to rekindle her thing with fit with fit the year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But when she saw that he was on some Trump thing or whatever, she changed her mind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Old boy slid into the DMs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, I ain't getting the time, but I did nine years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm old, gee.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ryan, we got to find this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, no Chelsea handler.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just talk about she likes to do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no kids.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She likes to travel.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If she likes to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, you that's right up my alley, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Shout out to Chelsea.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How it's a boy, Chelsea.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Flip this one too, guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That rock with you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like her so so you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Shootin' a shot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, honestly, those, they can't believe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I gotta keep it real though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the only DMs I ever slid into.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Word, I don't be less the new generation thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, I'm tryin' I'm not gonna ask.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If I see a woman in public, and this is something new that I'm just learning about, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: If I see a woman in public, I'm asking her for her number.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not her at.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, you know, what's up with your IG mark, you know what I felt so old.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm sorry to out of you right here, brother.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're out, I think we were in Vegas and Ryan and his young lady having this good conversation and I'm having to help a little too much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, big brother can always have a little brother out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then when I'm like, all right, go ahead, steal the deal, bro, so we can move on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He said, what's your Instagram?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I bought through my glass down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why do we want Instagram?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Get to the phone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's still the same device, but here you're locked in one man's he's got a preferred method of communication for the lion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's shaking his head.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The preferred method of communication.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I felt bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was like, I didn't help you do all this work for you to try to hit this woman up all this degree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's what I do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's the preferred method.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want you, number.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to call you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to speak to you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I need to hear what you sound like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I need to be able to have a conversation with you a real time so I can understand whether or not you have the intellectual capacity to be somebody I want to spend my time around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's just me, right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Ryan, you're not in your head, yes, off camera.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So do you call through Instagram?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I guess the original contact is made to Instagram.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then you get the number and progress from there, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's an ad step.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't get it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be efficient.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be efficient.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be efficient.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look
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[SPEAKER_00]: But Monica, I'm not a part of this conversation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So whatever they got caught on, and matter of fact, I'm backtracked.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You didn't hear any of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did not help hip-hop with anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't even there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was interview, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's always me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's always me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am the guy that married me and not allowed to hang out with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why is many times?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why is it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want you hanging out with him anymore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, I come as advertised.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't apologize.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am a wham.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm single, and I'm single, eternally single, because I, you know, I'm not gonna do this right now, man, I don't know, I got, I got, I got, I got a habit, man, I got a habit, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have been in love before, right on?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man, as a matter of fact, there's an old song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But been in love before, but been in love before, the hardest part is when you're in it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look, that one of those dope tracks from foot, but will you be in love again?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a damaged soul, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: B. Oh man, I've made enough enemies today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, what else we got, man?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Think we're ready to go home?
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've got a wrap.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to my friends at Half-Sumo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not getting paid anything for this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just really love what they do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got a great relationship.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You like, fightwear.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You like, grapplewear.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You like all that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hit it my friends at Half-Sumo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And one thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when we do have our tag match, are we here?
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[SPEAKER_00]: is a heel and baby face.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're baby face.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're baby face.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're baby face.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't know what.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to make it a point in the very near future.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to get Ryan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to get the crew together and we are going to have your official first in-ring training sessions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to, as a matter of fact, we need to do that soon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But do we really want to do that with cameras?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not trying to make no comedy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I need some trade, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Boxed up here with him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think we need the cameras for day warms.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cha cha, I'd like you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we need a camera for it for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Big no, because it will show the beauty of your progression.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that trying to learn to take that first bat bump, brother.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Define, you are retraining your body to do something that is completely unnatural.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To throw your feet up in the air and land flat on your back, without reaching back from the floor to break your fall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're retraining your nervous system because instinctively you fall, you're reaching back, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's exactly how you break your arm, or break your elbow, or whatever the case may be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to embrace tucking your chin, kicking your feet up,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to be fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to chill.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you run in the ropes, look up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have all the padding on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I might have a helmet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You've seen Jay Z.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Waters on the jet skis with the helmet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got too much going up one here to get hurt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I probably can't wear helmet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jay Z.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He lost you with the whole target.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, target.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a billionaire.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't really do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In Chelsea handler, she's not close.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Billionaire?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a billionaires.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's got to be a couple hundred million.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This got to be way up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's Chelsea handler is a billionaires.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I want to be your house.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You must have a call over with this, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you see where I'm at.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, I'm where I'll see, look, I didn't even know you weren't that kind of money, tell see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just thought you were funny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you got a little sexiness about you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying, love, love, love, love, some some, you know, but uh, you know, yeah, I ain't good at times, but I did nine years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I ain't snitch, it's all documented.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying, almost I did a bit gangster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Retired, retired, retired, retired, retired, retired.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm retired.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I ain't trying to have no beef with it,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, not, I'm not trying to handle Beast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be the same.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But Rick Ross talking about slacking city, I'm not getting involved with this guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look, you go have these say, and see your space cowboy here in a second.
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[SPEAKER_00]: See your space cowboy.
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