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Four kids under the age of eight, a comfortable W2, and a 50% pay cut. That was the math Sean Desmond ran before leaving a global software company for nCino, a Wilmington startup that had not proven much of anything yet. Then the people hiring him asked him to write a check and buy stock on his way in the door. He did.
Sean sits down with Bennie and Danny to trace what came after: the executive table debate where the team spent 30 minutes talking itself out of a $30 billion bank, the customer success machine he built from nothing, and the shift from giving input to being the one everybody looks at for the final call. He is obsessive about retention, clear eyed about getting second guessed, and convinced curiosity beats tenure. Today's Margin Maker is Sean Desmond.
In this episode:
- The math on a 50% pay cut with four kids under eight
- Why the team hiring him asked him to buy his own stock, and what that did to his head
- The 30 minutes nCino spent finding reasons not to chase its first huge bank
- What "I know you're too busy" tells him about his own leadership
- The two things his predecessor warned him about, including the one about his jokes
- Why the roadmap went from 18 months to 90 days
"The hardest thing for most people is to make a decision." - Sean Desmond
Timestamps:
(00:00) - Intro
(01:20) - Thirty Years In Tech
(08:44) - The Christmas Party
(11:02) - Four Kids, Half Pay
(13:01) - The Bank That Changed Everything
(15:09) - Building Customer Success
(18:06) - Writing A Check In
(23:38) - Taking The CEO Seat
(26:44) - Making The Final Call
(30:38) - Meeting The AI Moment
(32:21) - Innovation Fridays
(38:04) - Digital Partners Unveiled
Connect with Sean Desmond:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sean-desmond-966160/
Website: https://www.ncino.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ncino_inc/
About the Show
Margin Makers is hosted by Bennie Sheally, entrepreneur and insurance agency founder, and co-host Danny Reynolds. The podcast features conversations with founders and operators across the trades, property management, insurance, and service industries who are building real businesses and learning through experience. Each episode focuses on practical lessons around leadership, operations, profitability, growth, and the challenges that come with scaling a business while staying grounded in the work.
Connect with Bennie Sheally:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bennie-sheally-1240b340/
Connect with Danny Reynolds:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyreynolds1/
Find Margin Makers Here:
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Margin_makers
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/margin-makers/id1887598203
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0VlwVmNIppKpOTsnqBhYRe
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marginmakerspodcast/
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