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Speaker 1: What teams you hear this from, Brian, what teams make the most sense in your opinion?
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Speaker 2: Well, the team that.
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Speaker 3: You're hearing about the most from people around the league is the Minnesota Timberwolves. And it's no secret they've been star hunting in the last handful of transaction cycles. They don't have a lot of assets in terms of future picks, but they've been trying to find that co star to pair with Anthony Edwards. There's definitely interest there. There are other teams involved, but again, the Timberwolves are the team that you're hearing the most about.
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Speaker 4: That is Tim McMahon ESPN on Get Up this morning talking about the major report from Sean Sharania now initially and now many others about LaMelo Ball and the Hornets engaged in trade talk surrounding LaMelo Ball. You heard him say Timberwolves, the or the are in the mixed Toronto. We also heard Milwaukee as well. Bone keeps giving me names that are being mentioned on social media as people that could come back our way, and I am just thinking, why do we want these individuals, Like why are we trading the face of the franchise and our best player to get a hold of let me check the notes Bone gave me here. Grady freakin' Dick, Yeah, what the hell are we doing here?
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Speaker 5: Up on the Toronto side, Dick's been involved heavily in the U in the rumors here, an athletic writer, First of all, Rod Boone has a source article of this Morning from the October that says, yeah, sources are saying, well what Chom said, but that Toronto has been the most aggressive team in pursuit of Mellow. So the athletic writer for the Raptors puts out scenarios that he could see happening get LaMelo ball. One was involving r J. Barrett and Grady Dick. One was involving quickly, and one was involving Brandon Ingram, who doesn't make a lot of sense. Good player, but for what the Hornets need him, and Brandon Millery doesn't really Brandon Miller is kind of a version of Brandon Ingram. It doesn't make a lot of sense. So the fans, the Rafter writers thinking, how can we just steal away LaMelo by giving up quickly Grady Dick or RJ.
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Speaker 2: Barrett? And the Minnesota stuff is ridiculous too.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, who would give me the list of guys you were saying that people are writing that like Minnesota does not.
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Speaker 2: Look at well.
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Speaker 5: Obviously Anthony Edwards is all he's probably off the table for about anybody, but he's off the table. They will not trade McDaniels to anybody else. He's part of their core. He's not moved. He's untouchable for them. They will also mac not move Big Ragou, Donte DiVincenzo, they will not move nas Reed, and they only have one of their next three first round draft voices. They would have to get a third team involved that. There's no way they can get them with the way I mean, it's really go bear is the one thing? Shannon, Oh, Terren, Shannon's available? Because I saw somebody and then they just signed to Sumu so to a big deal, so that they just signed a suba right, Yeah, and they want Mellow. So do we get end up getting to Sumu because Disubu went Mellow? Is that gonna work well together?
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Speaker 4: That's a lot of money to the point going, But yeah, that'd be nice of them, wouldn't it be nice? On Grandpa? I don't It's just what are we getting out of this? It feels like you have teams trying to swindle Jeff Peterson, is what it feels like to me, and and and god, I would hope that Jeff Peterson, who wins every trade seemingly, I would hope bone that this may he even won a trade with OKC when Gordon Hayward couldn't be a factor for them at all.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: You know a lot of people point out to Jeff Peterson is just gonna kick save these things away.
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Speaker 5: And the people are texting in if if it's balling Dick in Toronto, how is that common gonna work out there? How does ball mesh with Dick out there as a combo?
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Speaker 6: Is that?
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Speaker 5: Is that what Toronto wats?
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Speaker 2: How much to answer that question? Serious? Are you boops?
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Speaker 6: Man?
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure things out here.
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Speaker 4: I don't know if you just deadpanned that and wanted us to laugh, or are you just somehow the most mature person in the room right it's safe?
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Speaker 5: Are we fitting? I'd be in children? You can't spell bone without professionalism? Somehow that doesn't make any sense.
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Speaker 4: Well, I feel like if you're gonna go with that tandem bone, then you would need jello too, because you need to anyway, exact way?
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Speaker 7: All right?
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Speaker 2: What did I Why did I go there? All right?
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Speaker 4: Anyway, if you guys want to jump in, it feels like eighty percent on the text line upset and worried, like are you gonna do this?
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Speaker 2: We finally have momentum.
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Speaker 4: LaMelo had a year where show growth as a player and health wise. The timing of this doesn't make sense. We finally have momentum as a team. Shouldn't we be adding commodities instead of getting a ri get rid of our best play. That feels like that's eighty percent of the feelings out there. I want to do. I want to do a pulse of panthonytion. You're going to read a or a Hornets Nation. We're going to read a bunch of texts. If you guys do want to get in on the phone lines. The phone lines were lively earlier at seven o'clock when we opened abup. If anybody wants to jump in on the phone lines and vent on this one. Does anybody understand this? Does any can anybody make some sense of it to us? Or does this one freak you out as well? There's also bone the idea of the truck seven oh four five, seven oh nine, sixteen. If you want to jump in on the phone lines or text Dan, I want to make sure bone we get some more you know, listener opinions in here, either calls or read a bunch of these texts. Throughout this segment, we've got Taris Ogleby. Oglesby, who's going to join us at nine to twenty five. He thought he was coming on to do a Hornet's Draft recap, and now all of a sudden, he's right in the middle, in the middle list. And I do remember in the past he did not hold back on LaMelo Ball. In the past, he did not, So I'll be curious to see if he finds this as nonsensical as we do. Where can he see the value in this?
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Speaker 5: We were also roughly slated to have Charles leon in this hour. Apparently that is that's all right now. I don't know what it's occurred, but it's not happening. I know KP was gonna have Jeff Peterson.
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Speaker 4: I was dying to hear what Jeff Peterson I'd say about his draft, and I don't know if that's now on jail. I just don't know, man, I don't like that there's nothing good coming out of this, except for the fact Bone, that we have been giving up layup of a radio show that people are so into. We've gotten June content, but I could have just as sided it, even a tough lay of a micing layout. Oh my god, So you can hit this? What avan marka hit it? Blindfolded man? Right now, I'm telling you you could spin him around like a top. He can dal this layout. I mean he would hit this dang lay up. All right, let's one okay, the one other thing, because I want to get some calls on. I want to read some of y'all's text before we get ogles. Beyond here, we've gotten a lot. I will say this I said about only about twenty percent seemed to be like defending this sell high.
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Speaker 2: You know you.
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Speaker 4: Maybe they don't believe Lamola can stay healthy and they're trying to sell high. But those offers we're getting don't sound like a hot, high value sale. There's the other angle here that we keep getting. It's the don't we trust Jeff Peterson crowd, Now read one of those texts seven oh four number Mack and Bone. I have been with you, guys, lockstep when you have professed your trust for Jeff Peterson. Don't we just have to trust trust that Jeff Peterson will only do this if it's a deal that benefits us, and if it's a crappy offer, he will not be hoodwinked. Do you how do you marry your trust in Jeff peterson stance with what's going on right now? Bone, I will trust that he's not just gonna make the move for the sake of making the move, that he will get something deemed as equal back and not just a bunch of pieces that you try to fit together. Or will we p brought up a great point back to us in a group chat. We have not mentioned today the fact that Will Melow's name is now out there and trade talks. What's the relationship like if he doesn't get traded. We've heard a lot about Jaylen Brown and Boston. He's still there is Mellow has been content and happy. If you have it out there that Mellows on the trade block and you don't move them, how does that affect the relationship and his happiness going forward?
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Speaker 6: Right? Yeah?
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Speaker 4: Well, you and you will be concerned. You could be on the verge of upsetting him because his guy is Miles Bridges, and you could be on the verge of trading him or not re signing him next year or whatever.
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Speaker 2: So you have that going on.
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Speaker 4: I will say this, I don't see Lamello as one of those dudes to get furious and angry. Almost seems like anything that happens to that man, he's just kind of like, you know, just kind of go.
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Speaker 2: With the flow. Just I don't think his father is gonna say much.
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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, didn't treat Jello right or Melo right?
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Speaker 6: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: We first Jello. Now this that's an interesting point.
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Speaker 4: This texter says, I wonder if this is being done because LaMelo wants out anyway. The reporters that have tweeted about this insist that he wants to be here, that he is very fired up about the direction of this team. He wants to be here. We did have who said it earlier to us. They thought was it Stephen Gilesmie speculating could this have come from Lamello's camp because he couldn't understand why the Hornets would want.
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Speaker 2: To initiate this.
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Speaker 5: Listen, his pops could say anything, but I almost feel like he is. His dad's just been yapping in the wind. It never feels like LaMelo ever feels the way his dad does. Yeah, you know, so I don't know, man.
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Speaker 2: Who knows? Though?
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Speaker 4: This was not what we were expecting. We were expecting, like, Hey, are we going to revisit some bonus talks. I was going to revisit for the eighty nine time trying to get Miles Turner bone. I know you're excited about that, Like we were going to talk about what to do with our fifteen million dollar mid level exception, how to get Kobe White and not let him go to Detroit, Like I thought those were the things that were going on. So this thing has immediately flummes me, Man.
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Speaker 5: Would any of the team that just drafted I know Atlanta is not in the mix because of the division, but would any of the teams that just drafted one of the guards move off of the guard for Melow? Like would the Clippers who Levars wanted him to play for? Would they would they move off Woggler? Or do you think that they just wouldn't do that? I do love me some Keith Woggler. I know that sacrament love a coff and Flemings in Atlanta, But would would they move woggler from mellow or is that just me with thinking pie in the sky. That's interesting. That's interesting. That is at least make more sense. A guy Di's a franchise gual. That would be a guy I say, all right, money, but it would have to be matched up, sally. Would you have to take like somewhat big. I don't know, we would have to, but maybe it's expiring. Maybe get someone expired. That's that's one idea where I'm like, if they could get a franchise guard.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's big too, he's six five sixty six too. Man, who knows.
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Speaker 5: Maybe they try to get him in the draft, the trade in the draft, and they wouldn't move off that spot.
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Speaker 4: Seven oh four number says. It's simple, y'all. They saw that Kobe White also makes this offense tick, makes this offense efficient. They saw for the first time that we can play offensive basketball well without LaMelo Ball, and Kobe White will be about twenty million dollars cheaper he would be. And you could, like, if you got something legit back for LaMelo, you could make a case that Kobe Brandon con that you could still have a good team. But this stuff that we're like they're talking about us getting back. I just don't you know what I mean? Yeah, Like, where's the star Power guy back?
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Speaker 2: Anyway?
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Speaker 4: We take a phone call here, Yeah, we have a couple guys to take you. Let's get a little pulse of Hornet's Nation in here. We want to get your thoughts. I'll read more of your text as well. How does this strike you? Does it make any sense? And for those of you that like us trust Jeff Peterson, how do you like I don't even really want Jeff Peterson having these conversations, like how do we marry our trust in him? Do we just say he won't take a bad deal? Is that how we get through this?
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Speaker 6: All?
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Speaker 7: Right?
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Speaker 4: Seven oh four, five, seven oh nine, six ten, Let's go to Matt, who will start us off. Matt, how do you feel about this LaMelo stuff?
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Speaker 6: Hey, guys, good morning. I'm with you that I trust Peterson and I don't think he'll just give him away for a bunch of parts and draft picks. Uh, But I do worry. And maybe the question is why would they even take cold Like why would LaMelo, you know, not be on their you know us? Yeah, And I kind of go back to somebody brought it up earlier. Texture you know, they're not talking to LaMelo. This is a different regime now and maybe and I kind of feel like this he maybe Lamelow doesn't fit their vision of being the Hornet's DNA and they he's teaching them because they keep saying we need to get bigger, you know, stronger. LaMelo's twenty four. If he hadn't grown into his grown man body by now, he's not for two. He's had plenty of time, He's had plenty of time to rehab and lift weights and get stronger, and he has improved, you know some. But this is who Mellow is, and maybe he just stops the kind of player they think, you know, maybe they look at that blow out, what happened in the in the play is and you know he can't handle real physical playoffs type basketball.
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Speaker 4: That's listen, you make up some interesting points. We're all trying to make sense of it right now. And I do I do wonder like did they kind of look at him as a bit of a knucklehead on and off the court and maybe not the guy we want to lead our team. My argument would be, did last year not win you over? But maybe you know, maybe they see now's the time to get rid of them.
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Speaker 5: Do they view a ceiling with mellow as the as this as the one a I'm just trying to get in their mind. Do they view him as a guy that can get him too a certain level but ultimately not over that.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I just don't get why we have to do it now.
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Speaker 4: Like if you get to the point bone where you're like, Okay, this core is going as far as we as we can, right, we won fifty three games, but we get swept in the playoffs. Like, I just don't feel like we're at the point where you say, Okay, this guy that the leader of our corps, Now, let's get him out of here before we see where this core can go, see what they can do for a full season, see if we can get a full healthy season, and how many games they can win.
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Speaker 2: I just I'm not looking for a move. This damn dramatic.
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Speaker 5: There's a text line conspiracy theory that royal from the last hour was LeVar ball.
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Speaker 2: That's hilarious.
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Speaker 4: We'll work on that one. Let's investigate that one. This where was the text I just saw?
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Speaker 5: We're getting so many there's a lot of people met that don't believe it's that that Jeff Peterson simply taking calls. But again, to reiterate, I don't believe when Chams puts a deadline on it, that that is simply taking a call. The term twenty four to forty hours means they progressed enough after that call, so where he feels like the line is coming up.
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Speaker 4: So what JJ says, this is a total overreaction. Man, newsflash, Jeff picks up the phone when called, a good GM, takes every call. I but do you think Jeff Peterson is gonna get swindled? Because I don't, right Like, I find it hard hard to swindle.
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Speaker 5: I find it hard to believe that he's got to buy fitting on a dating app, Sorry about that, fiddy hopefully, or on a.
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Speaker 4: Morning show pity hashtag Brookie cookie man Ty Marlow over there, catfish.
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Speaker 2: Oh man anyway, Marlow tew. I don't know.
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Speaker 4: I'm still working through that right there. But uh, I just that's what I'm saying. I'm trying to marry my trust in Jeff Peterson. If this was Rich Choe, if this was Michael Jordan involved, I could see us doing something dumb it's hard to believe trader Jeff getting beat down on a trade. So it's like I'm trying to make some sense of it. But yeah, I don't. You know, how can you not be worried at least when you see here things like Sean's timeline.
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Speaker 5: All right, let's go. Let's get on whether man Mark came in by the way, well, no, is he mad? Aga? He hopes that it rains at Jeff Peterson's house today, and only Jeff Peterson's house.
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Speaker 4: All right, let's get one more call in here. Oh, you know this man's got to have an opinion.
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Speaker 2: Game cock. Kevin is up next, Kevin, how is this news hitting you? Man?
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Speaker 7: Well? Well, first of all, happy summer to y'all guys. I ain't y'all.
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Speaker 2: I'm glad you out.
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Speaker 7: Oh go ahead, Yah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, you know. I love y'all boys. I listen, man, but I ain't as engaged as I used to be. But I listen. You know, you know, you know I'm here, Matt, come on this, so check it out. I got real quick. Stop saying what are we doing? We've not done anything yet, like you've that's been your narrative the entire time. Like when you would kind of read what the potential trades were for Melow, you'd be like, well, what are we doing? It's like we've not done anything.
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Speaker 6: Okay things here?
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Speaker 7: Well, well okay, I don't think we're gonna make a mistake with Mellow, bro I don't. I don't see that happening. Now. There are a couple of things we need to look at here. Number One, with Mellow, the best we've done is to play in and we've never gotten out of the play in stage. And I get it, there's been injuries. Even last season. If them boys wasn't endured up front, I think we would have probably been in the top six. So yeah, do I want to run it back? Absolutely? Trade deadline is in the middle of the season. Let's kind of see how things go and let's do it. Then you're right about why now we don't need to do anything. Now, let's go ahead and run this thing back as of right now. But you also got to look at some other things. Guess what Guy's expansion is coming. You'll only be able to protect your top eight. We need to have a real solid top eight before we start talking about trading people. You know what I'm saying like in the next year or two there are gonna be two teams, one in Seattle one in Vegas. People not even thinking about that. We gotta think about the future. Nets, let's not just think about right now. So, in my opinion, is their chance that if we do keep Mellow for the next three years, will he re sign with us? That's another question you gotta answer, Mac, you know what I mean, Like, at some point, this guy gonna probably want to win a championship. Maybe not, Maybe he just want to ride his go cart on the top of the roof in Charlotte and ride Lambeau's down the street and get people. But at the end of the day, we have to figure this stuff out.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 7: I do not want to trade him for scraps. I don't think that's gonna happen. If we do trade him for scraps, that's gonna be a big issue on this ownership and on this leadership. I do not think that's gonna happen. So I just say, everybody, Rea, let's just see what happened and we'll take it from there.
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Speaker 5: I like a great call man. That's good trying to preach relax today on this show. Also yeah, well did you see what? And he's right, like, I don't know why am I saying? What are we doing when you just throw in the trade. Just a little nervous, Just a little nervous. I'm okay. But we did get accused boned by multiple textures of committing a crime that it will now forever be known as a Weatherman mark. People say, we are freaking out over something that hasn't happened yet either. Someone said maxmn up on his H and S roof all morning, saw LaMelo up there.
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Speaker 2: In that go car.
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Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, I just I get what he's saying about. Hey, the three year contract and which which you know, is he gonna resign? I just think you gotta let this play out. Let this core breathe, let this core work. Maybe add to this core a little bit, but let's see what they can do. At some point near the end of Lamello, you know, then maybe you you know it, maybe you make a move. But just the timing's killing me.
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Speaker 6: Man.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, Jeff Peterson hadn't done anything yet. You wonder did they did?
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Speaker 5: They all for him for Simonis along the way, and the Sacramento was not interested because they're trying to shed salary a little bit. And also they had their eyes on a cuff the whole time. So who knows, maybe maybe there were talks nar along the way. For all we know, that could have been part of that. They talked a lot of the Sacramento. It didn't work out, but they had a lot of talk to Sacramento. They did, and I just could see Sacramento saying, you know what, we were going to go this direction in the draft. We come back Terrence Oglesby, We'll try to make sense of this for us. We were gonna talk draft picks, but a little something happened along the way. So we'll talk to Terrence Oglesby of the fan Duel Sports Network next on Sports Radio.
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Speaker 2: Z Oh my goodness.
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Speaker 4: Cham's Sharonia just reporting two minutes ago on Twitter that the Hornets have traded Lamello and Josh Green to the Timberwolves for Nas Reid, a twenty thirty three unprotected first round pick, three first round picks swaps, and three second round picks. I don't know what to say. Where's the rest. We didn't get hit, we didn't get faked, did we? Maybe Schalms is wrong for once.
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Speaker 5: I am lost, not only on the conversation of the player, but I like nas Reid, but maybe not in this sense. Also, the picks seven years away, it's all pick swaps. It doesn't really match salary. Yeah, that's a lot of picks. By legit, where's the rest of Jeff Peters had got all the second round picks that you didn't get this year. There's got to be another thing happening here. Also on the minutes to front, they just signed Assumo for one hundred and twelve million dollars. They have Edwards, They not bringing Lamello. How does all that? How does the Sumu and Mellow and all that work together?
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Speaker 7: There?
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Speaker 4: It doesn't really make it a lot idle. I'm lost, it says. You see Sean's second tweet. By the way, we're getting tarasugles be in the second who is also welcome to the finding this out just like we are. But Sham's next tweet the Timberwolve send a hall to the Hornets for a star stud, a new back court, Anthony Edwards and LaMelo Ball. Charlotte didn't shop Ball in the market, but listened and received multiple rich offers before filling a significant need in the front court with Red. Ironically, I will say this, nas Reed is a type of stretch for that we've all met. I watched him specifically. Nas rebutted so Tooby, it's your point guard, Brandon Kahan. Nas Reed, you save a lot of salary. I don't. It's it's I don't know. This is hard to process, man, They give hard to process. They get fleeced by Alex Rodriguez.
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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
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Speaker 4: Alright, Alex Rodrigez's tweets, Oh my goodness. Anyway, By the way, we still got at some point give away to these monster jam four pack of tickets.
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Speaker 2: We'll do that before we get out of there.
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Speaker 6: Out of it.
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Speaker 5: By the way, we told Terrence Ogles I want to talk about honas at Christian Anderson.
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Speaker 4: Terres thought this was an easy draft breakdown, layup segment. Are now he's got to react live to this.
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Speaker 2: Oh goodness.
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Speaker 4: I'm Terras Ogles b from the pre and post game shows on the Hornets TV network. On Fandal, he joins us here on the Mac and Bone show, t O, what do you think of the news of this trade?
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Speaker 8: Man, I'm just as shocked as you are. I'm sitting here I love nas Reed. I think he's one of the most underappreciated players in the NBA, and that is an area where the Hornets need to get bigger. You see the need for physicality and the play in tournament this year. They need to get a little bit bigger. They need to get a little bit more physical. Nas Reed certainly fits that mold, and it also puts a notice on like how much the Hornets appreciate Probably White, and it also says how much faith they have in Christian Anderson and guys. I saw Christian Anderson before he was at Texas Tech, playing with the U nineteen World Cup team in Switzerland, and he is really really stinking good And it's just he is on the smaller side. But really, what this does to me is it says how much the Hornets love Kobe White and it looks like they're going to hitch their wagon into the Kobe White continent when Brandon Miller express because it doesn't have the flash that LaMelo brings, but there's a whole lot of substance there and you get bigger and more physical with nas Reed. I like the pick swaps. Here's I'm scared, I'll be honest with you, gentlemen. After my Mark Williams debacle, I'm scared to death to say anything without absolutely going through first. I'm just gonna go ahead and say it. With Lamello and his injury history and how narrow he has built, is this a cell high situation?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 8: Where he played seventy two games, this is a cell high situation because he played extraordinary basketball this year. Did they think, well, this is as good as it gets for LaMelo? That's that's what my curiosity is. I have talked to nobody in the front office there in Charlotte. This is me speculating the same way you guys are.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Is it a little weird to you on the Minnesota front too? They just signed to SUMU and now they go get mellow? Is that is that kind of a weird fit for Melow? Does it make sense for him?
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Speaker 8: The whole on their side of the ordeal, Like they just shipped out Julius Randall, They signed assuming to a big year, a big, big deal, and then it's Lamello and Anthony Edwards. Anthony Edwards is better dominating the ball. LaMelo is better dominating the ball. Uh, it's a cure excuse me. It's a curious ordeal. How do they manage that?
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Speaker 6: Uh?
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Speaker 8: I don't know how that's going to go. But I'm sitting here, I'm looking at all this stuff. Guys without my without my rosters in front, go ahead together. It's that's two that's two ball dominant guys on their end, and assume it's kind of in the same mold. So curious how that works.
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Speaker 2: What do you say?
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Speaker 4: Okay, So here's been our stance all day, and we've had all day. Right, the rumors started breaking last night, and credit to Sham's man, a lot of us were doubting, really this is something like this is gonna happen this quickly, and he said it last night, could happen in twenty four or forty eight hours. And here we go. But you know, a lot of our stance on it had been too that. Hey, this team is after so many frustrating years and then the injury plague years. Man, they really put it together, and it seemed like the new health staff kind of found a way along with the you know brass there, found a way to keep LaMelo healthy. LaMelo seemed to be you know, coachable, right. It seemed like they were getting more defense out of them, and it just we finally had momentum. So it's hard for a Hornets fan to want to break that up, Like, how do you feel about doing this when it feels like we have momentum?
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Speaker 8: You know, the only thing I can come back to and again, I want to be absolutely clear that this is me. So this is a cell high situation with a mammoth contract with what LaMelo had, and it gives you room to resign Kobe for what he wants. It gives you room to operate a little bit thinking, you know, Minnesota is not going to be able to those first round pick swaps are going to be big because I think the Hornets have faith that they're going to be really tough. I really do. And you look at the collective collective size, and I think, you know, LaMelo was, He's narrowly built. He's tall, but he's narrowly built. That type of frame. Typically it sends the message of well, he could get hurt a little bit more. Guys, I'm just as shocked as you are trying to figure this out. But at the same time, I do think, I do think if you're Charlotte and you're looking to get out of the LaMelo business, which would make sense if you're trying to build something sustainable in the long term and not worry about injury because he has shown the propensity to get hurt. This is a cell high situation.
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Speaker 5: If you're the Hornets, what do you think of the Hants draft pick? Just to go a different direction momentarily, what do you think of Hannis?
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Speaker 7: Want me to keep this?
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Speaker 8: You guys want me to keep this ten seconds or less?
00:27:13
Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 8: I love Hannes Steinbach. He was the second best big man at you nineteen Worlds in Switzerland. He goes up to Washington and he gets a forgot about a little bit because the Pacific Northwestern College Basketball. Do they like it? Yeah? Do they love it? I would say no. I will say this. I've heard comparisons to Steven Adams. He's a better passer than that. I don't think he's quite as big as Stephen Adams, but he really rebounds, he's tough, He's got a lot of skill. So is he an absolute upgrade at the five spot? They've drafted really well. I do think he's better offensively than Ryan Kulkbrenner, and he's put together wider than Caulkbrenner. He's put together. He's a lot heavier than Mussa Diabat. I think he's a starting quality big man. But guy, there's part of me that thinks the Hornets aren't finished with this whole ordeal.
00:28:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I'm kind of taking that too.
00:28:02
Speaker 5: Like, that's a lot of picks they've collect They already had a lot of picks.
00:28:05
Speaker 2: Now they've gotten more. They've got a lot more.
00:28:08
Speaker 4: Now you bring in like Bridges as could go right now because you brought in nas Reed, he's your starting four. Drafted in Steinbacher, so Bridges in another trade at some point. I just I don't know, man, I hope there's more to come, to be honest with you, all right, t O, Let's talk more about Anderson, because all of a sudden, now yesterday, at this time, I was hoping we re signed Kobe, we have Lamello, and Anderson can ease into things right as kind of the third ball handler. Now, like you said, this very well might show, Hey, we we love the way our offense played when Kobe was on the court.
00:28:41
Speaker 2: We can save money and he's our one. We drafted Anderson.
00:28:44
Speaker 4: They were probably thinking He's ready to be our two on the offensive end. I love Anderson. The shooting's ridiculous, the pick and roll, the savviness of the way he runs a pick and roll is really cool. But you mentioned the size, like is he a target on defense? Like, what do you think about the pros and cons of Christian Anderson?
00:29:06
Speaker 8: He's much better than kJ Simpsons. Okay, we got that and that, so that's good news. You know, he played on the German national team with Hannes Steinbach, so there's some connection there and they were really good and pick and roll together. The other portion of that is, you know, he is six two, but he's got six six six seven wings fans, so he's a little bit longer than given credit for. He's had some big rebounding moments during the course of the season last year. He competes at a really high level, and he could very well be the best shooter in this year's draft. So that's kind of where I'm at with him. I've always been a big fan of his game. There's a certain toughness about him. He's played with the senior national teams and that Germany doesn't just do that, so you have to have some game about you. I'm I think he could come in and play minutes right away. And I don't think they're going to be like figure it out, They're going to come in and bust a couple shit. So, like I said, though, do I have faith he could play immediately?
00:30:04
Speaker 3: Yeah?
00:30:04
Speaker 8: This is a strong draft class. What was he picked at eighteen? Like you, there's quality players at eighteen. Now, I think he's a guy that can come in and play minutes immediately, and he's going to be able to knock down shots for you quickly.
00:30:17
Speaker 5: We're talking to Terrence oglesby FanDuel Sports Network here on the Mack and Bone Show. Looking up right now, it's surreal. All the TVs right now too, are all about the Hornets, trading mellow balls, the Timberwolves. We came in to day Terrence thinking, yeah, this will be a pretty easy show. As of last night, this will be an easy show. No Hornets second rounders. Our biggest concern this morning was why did Henry Vasar drop solo in the draft for the Heels? And now look at us, Oh my god, this is crazy. I appreciate you reacting on the fly.
00:30:46
Speaker 4: Yeah, somebody said, Teo's the designator reactor to trades in town.
00:30:51
Speaker 2: Remember Mark to even made that same joke sir.
00:30:54
Speaker 6: Before thee.
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Speaker 4: Oh my god, oh hey, I would bone brought up the Vassar situation and also Isaiah Evans in I just want to ask you that, because you're at college basketball, nut and you cover it so much as well field A sixty eight ESPN and elsewhere, what do you think when you see in the nil era where Isaiah Evans, whether at Duke or somewhere else, theysare Carolina somewhere else. It sounds like Carolina. He could have got five million plus to play. It's just maybe this is the maybe I'm showing my age and I feel like I want to act like their dads. But it kills me that some of these guys they take the risk, will we get a first round guaranteed deal, and then they don't. Why not stay in school, make millions and keep working on your game. Does it hit you the same way.
00:31:39
Speaker 6: Or no.
00:31:42
Speaker 8: As a guy who declared early. Yeah, it hurts me for them even more because you know, you get bad advice and happened to me. You know, I left after my sophomore season thinking I'd go over to Europe and then come back and I end up going over there and getting lost, and the chance for development is is fine over there, but it wasn't what it could have been in college. So I say all that to say this, now that they have money, now that they are making extraordinary amounts of money, five million dollars, I think. I think the pick is like number sixteen in order to like, if you have to beat five million dollars, you have to go in the top sixteen or something like that. Like I'm not sure what they starts thinking you can get one track minded, which is what I did. I was like, I have to make it. I have to go. I have to go. But it comes to a point where somebody has to pull you back and be like, hey man, college life isn't that bad. It's not like your classes are all that hard. Like go go back to school, collect checks, and then we'll see how it all works.
00:32:43
Speaker 4: Man, all right, and that's that's good. Yeah, I forgot all about your situation. That was a pretty good, honest answer there.
00:32:49
Speaker 5: And you're saying Ryan Windhorst loves the trade on get up right now for the hornets?
00:32:54
Speaker 4: Really?
00:32:54
Speaker 8: Yeah, Yeah, Like I said to me, I just want to make sure the trade goes through, but it's to me, I love the trade because it's a so high situation. You get draft picks involved, and I think nas Reed is I have a lot of respect for what he does and he deserves to be a starter.
00:33:14
Speaker 4: He's a winning player, man, and we have missed that profile right of the stretch. Four miles, very inconsistent shooting from outside. He's a true four size wise. All right, brother, hey, we appreciate you. We did not have a crystal ball and know that you would be on here live reacting to the trade. You did an amazing job of it. My friend, have a great summer and thanks for coming on.
00:33:33
Speaker 2: Man, appreciate you absolutely.
00:33:36
Speaker 4: Guys, all right, Terah Soclesby did not know what he signed up for there, but that was pretty good one of us candid Live response. It's just hard for me to get where he is saying now by the end of the conversation, now he's like, yeah, I like the trade. I like nas Reed too, is a piece we would type of peace bone that we would ah add to an improving core.
00:33:55
Speaker 2: I don't. And then the.
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Speaker 4: Three pick swaps, so you're not getting extra picks on those years, you're just raging picks, Like, what's the point of that?
00:34:03
Speaker 2: I need picks outright? Mac?
00:34:05
Speaker 5: How about Mark? How about Mark Stein's wording here on the tree? I love this. The Hornets have successfully pride nas Read away from the Wolves. Oh well, that's great, is that the headline? And God, I've chained the Hornets will now to try to retain Kobe White and fend off the Pistons. That's our next warry. Here the multiple textures saying what good is the Oh? God, if you lose Kobe White two, we're gonna have a freaking breakdown. We've already had a text say I'm canceling. I can't just cancel my season, diggts.
00:34:33
Speaker 4: So the Hornets are gonna have to get out there with their message on this abruptly.
00:34:37
Speaker 5: Yeah, multiple, we find that we finally fleece the Wolves for nas Reed. There we go, Mark, Yeah, we're winners, baby. Multiple texters are saying, what good are the pick swaps? If they're the better team and they're drafting lower than us, that's a that's point too. Maybe the Hornets think they're gonna be a better team. I don't, I don't know.
00:34:55
Speaker 2: It just makes me.
00:34:56
Speaker 4: It goes back to what a text sent in bon In a while back, where the was this core it was this group of Schlotkin, Lee and Peterson. Did they just all not think LaMelo was really their flavor? And they were trying to evaluate him, Like Teo said, they saw a chance where now's the time to trade him. He was actually healthy. But again, wouldn't you think we'd get more than this?
00:35:19
Speaker 5: It happened so fast it makes you wonder what really went on. It happened quickly, and you look at it and say, was that the best offer? Did they they moved so quickly on this one? Was that the best offer? And then you can, in hidsight mac man, if they could have done something in the draft and move, Not that I don't like what they drafted, but man, if you're wanting to if you're wanting the point guard and it wasn't Kobe White, there were plenty of guys there. Maybe guys weren't willing to trade out of those spots, but man, that was a heavy point guard draft to replace Mellow and it just went on and we weren't a part of that. I would have loved I would have loved the Wagglayer if they could have got him in this whole thing.
00:35:58
Speaker 4: Gonster Is said, Now, that'd be too good, that would make too much sense. Gonster is saying, apparently we get a forty two million dollar trade exception, largest in league history. Yeah, there's a lot we got to dig up here. We're trying to react to it live on the air. But my god, LaMelo ball traded to the Ward forty two million. My word, the salaries are ridiculously different here.
00:36:17
Speaker 2: Yes, Like, if it's.
00:36:18
Speaker 4: Just nas Reed, I don't know what he makes, Bone, but LaMelo makes forty five, forty six, forty three something in that neighborhood, Green makes what around fifteen? Yeah, like that's a huge salary difference. Man os Reed has a bigger deal than you think. By the way, he's on a five year, one twenty five, so he's twenty five million a year. Yes, okay, trying to see when it started. But yea, all right, let's do this real quick. Here's what we're gonna do. We gotta do this giveaway for we've got four years left on his zeal. Man got twenty three, twenty five, twenty six, twenty eight. We got to do this giveaway very fast here, Bone, all I can think of is Charlotte. We're shook right now, let's give you a price. So Monster Jam is coming up at Spectrum Center July eighteenth and nineteen eighth.
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Speaker 2: Absolute blast.
00:37:02
Speaker 4: Take the family, and right now we have a family four pack of tickets that you can win by texting in gravedigger. Text in gravedigger right now, one word fitty. We're making it one word. It's two two between two words grave digger. Two words. Text it into seven O four five seven nine. Oh my god, you couldn't hear me over that. We finally found a way bone to where people can't hear me scerymouth, Holy hell, y'all. You need to weaponize that fitty anyway. Seven O four five seven oh nine six And there's the Monster Jam. Roar right now, text us. We will do a drawing, will pick a winner, and somebody will get to enjoy Monster Jam and forget about LaMelo Ball being traded.
00:37:47
Speaker 5: Someone asks how long until LeVar is trying to get all the the Ball family members in Minnesota?
00:37:52
Speaker 2: God, my road trip to Minnesota. I'm shook. Man.
00:37:55
Speaker 5: All right, we come back. We reevaluate our not our lives. That seems a little strong. We reevaluate the Hornets trade. We get you said for the wrap up, and I gotta tell you back. I'm sorry to wear down the one I need an IV Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ.
00:38:25
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
00:38:25
Speaker 4: The text line now demanding Steph Curry be acquired and brought home.
00:38:30
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
00:38:31
Speaker 4: The rest of you are freaking out valuing to get rid of your tickets. Wes Bryant's promo was cut before any of this news was out, so he's telling everybody We're gonna be thrilling and chilling on a Thursday. Wes, I don't think y'all gonna be chilling today, baby, I think there's gonna be ranting and raven today. Oh my goodness, man, Lamello ball traded. Sham's had to report first to Minnesota, Josh Green and LaMelo.
00:38:54
Speaker 2: That's the thing.
00:38:54
Speaker 4: We give up two players and we only get one back. We get nas reed back and.
00:38:59
Speaker 5: Brought great point. Though, what does this mean for Sibonis? Because could you add him if you ended up with the front line, because I'm assuming Bridges is not a part of this. When you Noa's Read's got a pretty hefty contract for who he is and then you drafted that spot. Miles Bridges won't be a part of this. But if your perimeter was Kobe White, you gotta sign him. But Kobe White, con and Miller, and your front line was nas and Sabonis, and then you had a bunch of young guys on the bad.
00:39:27
Speaker 2: This is not going to be terrible. This is not going back to the Bobby.
00:39:30
Speaker 5: That would be a hell of an offensive front line because Nod's constructed and some bonus canpac it like that's not the end of the world.
00:39:36
Speaker 4: But and you just saved about thirty five million dollars, so now you've got more money to.
00:39:40
Speaker 5: Absorbs Sibonis, and then that involves signing Kobe White. But there are pass here to be a really good basketball We're not going back to the to the dark years. I don't think I agree with t O. We're not done. I agree with t O, We're not done. But man, this is just this trail of the metal. Oh and I wanted to throw in it's it's I was trying to read off bone the term. It's LaMelo and Josh Green to the Timberwolves for Nas Reed, a twenty thirty three unprotected first round pick in seven years, three first round picks swaps, so we just exchanged picks in twenty eight, twenty nine, and thirty and the three second round picks. It's just, man, I just feel I can't help feeling like MIKEL Bridges got five first round picks outright.
00:40:21
Speaker 2: I know, I know, we can't help feeling like we.
00:40:23
Speaker 4: Didn't get I like nas a lot, but like it just feels like we didn't get much back.
00:40:26
Speaker 5: Like they must have wanted have gone. I know there's the shock of how quick this happened. I am too, but I do think, like t O said, nas Reed does. He's not mellow, but there is a toughness in a physical like nas Reed. I've always been a fan of nos Reed. Did I want to get him for mellow now? I never thought that. But nas Reed is not just a throw and he he's a very productive fore man for this team.
00:40:51
Speaker 2: O Hornets fans wanted him.
00:40:52
Speaker 4: His name has come up routinely when we have talked about upgrading at the floor and a guy that can stretch the floor of the floor. His name comes up all the time. Never did we imagine LaMelo Ball would be traded and how do you get only one outright new first round pick.
00:41:07
Speaker 5: Well, the problem is that it goes back to what we said. Remember, they don't have a lot of their.
00:41:10
Speaker 4: Picks, but but but they have the picks they can swap with us.
00:41:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, how are those first round swaps? Moan?
00:41:17
Speaker 4: How are they not out outright first round picks or at least another first round pick? Like it's crazy and it makes you wonder what the brass really thought about LaMelo because they all inherited him from ownership on down. So so Schlock and our boys Schnaul and Plotkin are doing a charity.
00:41:34
Speaker 2: Like media ga right right, No, that's a question, right, and.
00:41:37
Speaker 4: This the case, But they can't talk about anything other than what is it some new kit What is it?
00:41:42
Speaker 2: What did y'all tell me during to bru? Was it a new kitchen, the new kitchen partnership or something? What is this? That is correct?
00:41:49
Speaker 4: Clearly they can't talk about because it's not it's not official. I wouldn't think until the new league year type thing. But like what media wants to sit there and hear that kind of stuff in the middle of this You just your franchise player.
00:42:02
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't talk about it yet, so I guess that's that's part of it. It's almost like, should you do the held the events? I don't even know, man, I don't even freaking know, all right, and I just work here, man, I don't freaking know. We got a New York butcher Shop cut of the day here, right, Yeah, this will make you laugh at least. This is a tremendous This is on with the part of my take.
00:42:22
Speaker 2: Boys.
00:42:22
Speaker 4: Uh Wyndham Clark, fresh off winning the US Open. They bring up an old tweet of him hating on Baker Mayfield.
00:42:28
Speaker 2: Listen to this. This is tremendous. You did tweet I.
00:42:31
Speaker 1: Hate Baker Mayfield, and I was just curious if you still feel that way. Maybe your thoughts on that, Maybe you're that hating your heart's gonna weary where you're at on that.
00:42:40
Speaker 3: I'm trying to decide if I should tell the story.
00:42:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, screw it. I don't care. People already hate me, so uh no, it's not that bad. My PR team's here.
00:42:53
Speaker 1: Listen, your PR team's on the hot seat because we're coming up with ideas they never thought of.
00:42:57
Speaker 2: No, they didn't. They brought me for everything. They prap me for this one. My girlfriend at the time cheated on me with Baker. Make Oh that's a fair tweet. Okay, Yeah, here's what I want to say as i've as I have come to like, I'm actually a Baker fan now I think he's a homie. I you know, that's your initial response, screw that guy, but really screwed it, you know, yeah, yeah, your girlfriend? Yeah, but yeah, so I'm I'm a Baker fan now.
00:43:28
Speaker 8: But you know that's where it came from.
00:43:30
Speaker 1: That's a totally we were trying to figure it out. We're like, oh, well, Oklahoma State, there's natural hate there. No, this is uh, that's a totally fair tweet. This is this is personal.
00:43:39
Speaker 8: I pull back.
00:43:40
Speaker 1: This is a bro moment for us to be like, oh, bro, I didn't know my bad she never told me, and I'm.
00:43:45
Speaker 2: Like, I's all good, we're homies. Let's play golf. Yes, where this comes from.
00:43:52
Speaker 5: They thought it was the Oklahoma State Oklahoma tie and apparently not.
00:43:55
Speaker 4: Were they both at Oklahoma and Oklahoma State the same time? Yes, okay, so that would track that there could be a woman in Oklahoma.
00:44:02
Speaker 2: Maybe then leave it.
00:44:03
Speaker 4: To them that strike gold on an answer that goes viral, right, I got score one for Boomer Sooner. Boomer Sooner beat him on the field all the time, and did I won this one? Oh my, I need a Baker response. I need a Baker response saying my bad, bro, I didn't know. Let's play golf. I need that weather man. Mark Mack has us back to twenty wins again.
00:44:20
Speaker 5: So there we go.
00:44:21
Speaker 2: If Mark could be back at Whopper's courtroom. Uh.
00:44:24
Speaker 5: Richie points out that nos Rey's older than a lot of the core of the team. Mac not that much. He's twenty six years old. What an ancient decaying player read. A little bit older, but not a whole lot there. Man, Yeah they still have somebody, says Mack. They have three first round picks next year to trade. There's still a big move for a star player. Yeah, I mean you to declare us dead here moving forward, But I wasn't expecting this off last year. Like, it's gonna take some time for us to process this.
00:44:53
Speaker 4: Man, process away all day with the boys here at WFNZ, Colin, then Wes and Walker and then Kyle bay Man keep it right here, process away.
00:45:02
Speaker 2: We all will be doing that together.
00:45:04
Speaker 5: It's some one said thoughts in prayers all the Minnesota in shirts agents.
00:45:08
Speaker 4: Oh my guy, at least that's a new twist on the joke, because right now, Bone, we have about twenty since the trade was reported twenty minutes ago, twenty texts I would guess, saying the streets are safer now in Charles, and one.
00:45:20
Speaker 2: Said mellow drove himself to the airport and drove right to the gate.
00:45:25
Speaker 4: Oh man, all right, anyway, we're out of here, y'all. Colin Haggard takes the baton from here as we try to figure out what to make of the LaMelo ball trade to Minnesota.
00:45:36
Speaker 2: Colin coming up next,
Speaker 1: What teams you hear this from, Brian, what teams make the most sense in your opinion?
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Speaker 2: Well, the team that.
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Speaker 3: You're hearing about the most from people around the league is the Minnesota Timberwolves. And it's no secret they've been star hunting in the last handful of transaction cycles. They don't have a lot of assets in terms of future picks, but they've been trying to find that co star to pair with Anthony Edwards. There's definitely interest there. There are other teams involved, but again, the Timberwolves are the team that you're hearing the most about.
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Speaker 4: That is Tim McMahon ESPN on Get Up this morning talking about the major report from Sean Sharania now initially and now many others about LaMelo Ball and the Hornets engaged in trade talk surrounding LaMelo Ball. You heard him say Timberwolves, the or the are in the mixed Toronto. We also heard Milwaukee as well. Bone keeps giving me names that are being mentioned on social media as people that could come back our way, and I am just thinking, why do we want these individuals, Like why are we trading the face of the franchise and our best player to get a hold of let me check the notes Bone gave me here. Grady freakin' Dick, Yeah, what the hell are we doing here?
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Speaker 5: Up on the Toronto side, Dick's been involved heavily in the U in the rumors here, an athletic writer, First of all, Rod Boone has a source article of this Morning from the October that says, yeah, sources are saying, well what Chom said, but that Toronto has been the most aggressive team in pursuit of Mellow. So the athletic writer for the Raptors puts out scenarios that he could see happening get LaMelo ball. One was involving r J. Barrett and Grady Dick. One was involving quickly, and one was involving Brandon Ingram, who doesn't make a lot of sense. Good player, but for what the Hornets need him, and Brandon Millery doesn't really Brandon Miller is kind of a version of Brandon Ingram. It doesn't make a lot of sense. So the fans, the Rafter writers thinking, how can we just steal away LaMelo by giving up quickly Grady Dick or RJ.
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Speaker 2: Barrett? And the Minnesota stuff is ridiculous too.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, who would give me the list of guys you were saying that people are writing that like Minnesota does not.
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Speaker 2: Look at well.
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Speaker 5: Obviously Anthony Edwards is all he's probably off the table for about anybody, but he's off the table. They will not trade McDaniels to anybody else. He's part of their core. He's not moved. He's untouchable for them. They will also mac not move Big Ragou, Donte DiVincenzo, they will not move nas Reed, and they only have one of their next three first round draft voices. They would have to get a third team involved that. There's no way they can get them with the way I mean, it's really go bear is the one thing? Shannon, Oh, Terren, Shannon's available? Because I saw somebody and then they just signed to Sumu so to a big deal, so that they just signed a suba right, Yeah, and they want Mellow. So do we get end up getting to Sumu because Disubu went Mellow? Is that gonna work well together?
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Speaker 4: That's a lot of money to the point going, But yeah, that'd be nice of them, wouldn't it be nice? On Grandpa? I don't It's just what are we getting out of this? It feels like you have teams trying to swindle Jeff Peterson, is what it feels like to me, and and and god, I would hope that Jeff Peterson, who wins every trade seemingly, I would hope bone that this may he even won a trade with OKC when Gordon Hayward couldn't be a factor for them at all.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: You know a lot of people point out to Jeff Peterson is just gonna kick save these things away.
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Speaker 5: And the people are texting in if if it's balling Dick in Toronto, how is that common gonna work out there? How does ball mesh with Dick out there as a combo?
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Speaker 6: Is that?
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Speaker 5: Is that what Toronto wats?
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Speaker 2: How much to answer that question? Serious? Are you boops?
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Speaker 6: Man?
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure things out here.
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Speaker 4: I don't know if you just deadpanned that and wanted us to laugh, or are you just somehow the most mature person in the room right it's safe?
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Speaker 5: Are we fitting? I'd be in children? You can't spell bone without professionalism? Somehow that doesn't make any sense.
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Speaker 4: Well, I feel like if you're gonna go with that tandem bone, then you would need jello too, because you need to anyway, exact way?
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Speaker 7: All right?
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Speaker 2: What did I Why did I go there? All right?
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Speaker 4: Anyway, if you guys want to jump in, it feels like eighty percent on the text line upset and worried, like are you gonna do this?
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Speaker 2: We finally have momentum.
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Speaker 4: LaMelo had a year where show growth as a player and health wise. The timing of this doesn't make sense. We finally have momentum as a team. Shouldn't we be adding commodities instead of getting a ri get rid of our best play. That feels like that's eighty percent of the feelings out there. I want to do. I want to do a pulse of panthonytion. You're going to read a or a Hornets Nation. We're going to read a bunch of texts. If you guys do want to get in on the phone lines. The phone lines were lively earlier at seven o'clock when we opened abup. If anybody wants to jump in on the phone lines and vent on this one. Does anybody understand this? Does any can anybody make some sense of it to us? Or does this one freak you out as well? There's also bone the idea of the truck seven oh four five, seven oh nine, sixteen. If you want to jump in on the phone lines or text Dan, I want to make sure bone we get some more you know, listener opinions in here, either calls or read a bunch of these texts. Throughout this segment, we've got Taris Ogleby. Oglesby, who's going to join us at nine to twenty five. He thought he was coming on to do a Hornet's Draft recap, and now all of a sudden, he's right in the middle, in the middle list. And I do remember in the past he did not hold back on LaMelo Ball. In the past, he did not, So I'll be curious to see if he finds this as nonsensical as we do. Where can he see the value in this?
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Speaker 5: We were also roughly slated to have Charles leon in this hour. Apparently that is that's all right now. I don't know what it's occurred, but it's not happening. I know KP was gonna have Jeff Peterson.
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Speaker 4: I was dying to hear what Jeff Peterson I'd say about his draft, and I don't know if that's now on jail. I just don't know, man, I don't like that there's nothing good coming out of this, except for the fact Bone, that we have been giving up layup of a radio show that people are so into. We've gotten June content, but I could have just as sided it, even a tough lay of a micing layout. Oh my god, So you can hit this? What avan marka hit it? Blindfolded man? Right now, I'm telling you you could spin him around like a top. He can dal this layout. I mean he would hit this dang lay up. All right, let's one okay, the one other thing, because I want to get some calls on. I want to read some of y'all's text before we get ogles. Beyond here, we've gotten a lot. I will say this I said about only about twenty percent seemed to be like defending this sell high.
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Speaker 2: You know you.
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Speaker 4: Maybe they don't believe Lamola can stay healthy and they're trying to sell high. But those offers we're getting don't sound like a hot, high value sale. There's the other angle here that we keep getting. It's the don't we trust Jeff Peterson crowd, Now read one of those texts seven oh four number Mack and Bone. I have been with you, guys, lockstep when you have professed your trust for Jeff Peterson. Don't we just have to trust trust that Jeff Peterson will only do this if it's a deal that benefits us, and if it's a crappy offer, he will not be hoodwinked. Do you how do you marry your trust in Jeff peterson stance with what's going on right now? Bone, I will trust that he's not just gonna make the move for the sake of making the move, that he will get something deemed as equal back and not just a bunch of pieces that you try to fit together. Or will we p brought up a great point back to us in a group chat. We have not mentioned today the fact that Will Melow's name is now out there and trade talks. What's the relationship like if he doesn't get traded. We've heard a lot about Jaylen Brown and Boston. He's still there is Mellow has been content and happy. If you have it out there that Mellows on the trade block and you don't move them, how does that affect the relationship and his happiness going forward?
00:08:21
Speaker 6: Right? Yeah?
00:08:21
Speaker 4: Well, you and you will be concerned. You could be on the verge of upsetting him because his guy is Miles Bridges, and you could be on the verge of trading him or not re signing him next year or whatever.
00:08:31
Speaker 2: So you have that going on.
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Speaker 4: I will say this, I don't see Lamello as one of those dudes to get furious and angry. Almost seems like anything that happens to that man, he's just kind of like, you know, just kind of go.
00:08:43
Speaker 2: With the flow. Just I don't think his father is gonna say much.
00:08:48
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, didn't treat Jello right or Melo right?
00:08:54
Speaker 6: Yeah?
00:08:54
Speaker 2: We first Jello. Now this that's an interesting point.
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Speaker 4: This texter says, I wonder if this is being done because LaMelo wants out anyway. The reporters that have tweeted about this insist that he wants to be here, that he is very fired up about the direction of this team. He wants to be here. We did have who said it earlier to us. They thought was it Stephen Gilesmie speculating could this have come from Lamello's camp because he couldn't understand why the Hornets would want.
00:09:22
Speaker 2: To initiate this.
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Speaker 5: Listen, his pops could say anything, but I almost feel like he is. His dad's just been yapping in the wind. It never feels like LaMelo ever feels the way his dad does. Yeah, you know, so I don't know, man.
00:09:36
Speaker 2: Who knows? Though?
00:09:36
Speaker 4: This was not what we were expecting. We were expecting, like, Hey, are we going to revisit some bonus talks. I was going to revisit for the eighty nine time trying to get Miles Turner bone. I know you're excited about that, Like we were going to talk about what to do with our fifteen million dollar mid level exception, how to get Kobe White and not let him go to Detroit, Like I thought those were the things that were going on. So this thing has immediately flummes me, Man.
00:09:58
Speaker 5: Would any of the team that just drafted I know Atlanta is not in the mix because of the division, but would any of the teams that just drafted one of the guards move off of the guard for Melow? Like would the Clippers who Levars wanted him to play for? Would they would they move off Woggler? Or do you think that they just wouldn't do that? I do love me some Keith Woggler. I know that sacrament love a coff and Flemings in Atlanta, But would would they move woggler from mellow or is that just me with thinking pie in the sky. That's interesting. That's interesting. That is at least make more sense. A guy Di's a franchise gual. That would be a guy I say, all right, money, but it would have to be matched up, sally. Would you have to take like somewhat big. I don't know, we would have to, but maybe it's expiring. Maybe get someone expired. That's that's one idea where I'm like, if they could get a franchise guard.
00:10:46
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's big too, he's six five sixty six too. Man, who knows.
00:10:49
Speaker 5: Maybe they try to get him in the draft, the trade in the draft, and they wouldn't move off that spot.
00:10:54
Speaker 4: Seven oh four number says. It's simple, y'all. They saw that Kobe White also makes this offense tick, makes this offense efficient. They saw for the first time that we can play offensive basketball well without LaMelo Ball, and Kobe White will be about twenty million dollars cheaper he would be. And you could, like, if you got something legit back for LaMelo, you could make a case that Kobe Brandon con that you could still have a good team. But this stuff that we're like they're talking about us getting back. I just don't you know what I mean? Yeah, Like, where's the star Power guy back?
00:11:28
Speaker 2: Anyway?
00:11:28
Speaker 4: We take a phone call here, Yeah, we have a couple guys to take you. Let's get a little pulse of Hornet's Nation in here. We want to get your thoughts. I'll read more of your text as well. How does this strike you? Does it make any sense? And for those of you that like us trust Jeff Peterson, how do you like I don't even really want Jeff Peterson having these conversations, like how do we marry our trust in him? Do we just say he won't take a bad deal? Is that how we get through this?
00:11:54
Speaker 6: All?
00:11:54
Speaker 7: Right?
00:11:55
Speaker 4: Seven oh four, five, seven oh nine, six ten, Let's go to Matt, who will start us off. Matt, how do you feel about this LaMelo stuff?
00:12:03
Speaker 6: Hey, guys, good morning. I'm with you that I trust Peterson and I don't think he'll just give him away for a bunch of parts and draft picks. Uh, But I do worry. And maybe the question is why would they even take cold Like why would LaMelo, you know, not be on their you know us? Yeah, And I kind of go back to somebody brought it up earlier. Texture you know, they're not talking to LaMelo. This is a different regime now and maybe and I kind of feel like this he maybe Lamelow doesn't fit their vision of being the Hornet's DNA and they he's teaching them because they keep saying we need to get bigger, you know, stronger. LaMelo's twenty four. If he hadn't grown into his grown man body by now, he's not for two. He's had plenty of time, He's had plenty of time to rehab and lift weights and get stronger, and he has improved, you know some. But this is who Mellow is, and maybe he just stops the kind of player they think, you know, maybe they look at that blow out, what happened in the in the play is and you know he can't handle real physical playoffs type basketball.
00:13:14
Speaker 4: That's listen, you make up some interesting points. We're all trying to make sense of it right now. And I do I do wonder like did they kind of look at him as a bit of a knucklehead on and off the court and maybe not the guy we want to lead our team. My argument would be, did last year not win you over? But maybe you know, maybe they see now's the time to get rid of them.
00:13:31
Speaker 5: Do they view a ceiling with mellow as the as this as the one a I'm just trying to get in their mind. Do they view him as a guy that can get him too a certain level but ultimately not over that.
00:13:42
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just don't get why we have to do it now.
00:13:44
Speaker 4: Like if you get to the point bone where you're like, Okay, this core is going as far as we as we can, right, we won fifty three games, but we get swept in the playoffs. Like, I just don't feel like we're at the point where you say, Okay, this guy that the leader of our corps, Now, let's get him out of here before we see where this core can go, see what they can do for a full season, see if we can get a full healthy season, and how many games they can win.
00:14:07
Speaker 2: I just I'm not looking for a move. This damn dramatic.
00:14:10
Speaker 5: There's a text line conspiracy theory that royal from the last hour was LeVar ball.
00:14:16
Speaker 2: That's hilarious.
00:14:17
Speaker 4: We'll work on that one. Let's investigate that one. This where was the text I just saw?
00:14:22
Speaker 5: We're getting so many there's a lot of people met that don't believe it's that that Jeff Peterson simply taking calls. But again, to reiterate, I don't believe when Chams puts a deadline on it, that that is simply taking a call. The term twenty four to forty hours means they progressed enough after that call, so where he feels like the line is coming up.
00:14:42
Speaker 4: So what JJ says, this is a total overreaction. Man, newsflash, Jeff picks up the phone when called, a good GM, takes every call. I but do you think Jeff Peterson is gonna get swindled? Because I don't, right Like, I find it hard hard to swindle.
00:14:56
Speaker 5: I find it hard to believe that he's got to buy fitting on a dating app, Sorry about that, fiddy hopefully, or on a.
00:15:03
Speaker 4: Morning show pity hashtag Brookie cookie man Ty Marlow over there, catfish.
00:15:14
Speaker 2: Oh man anyway, Marlow tew. I don't know.
00:15:17
Speaker 4: I'm still working through that right there. But uh, I just that's what I'm saying. I'm trying to marry my trust in Jeff Peterson. If this was Rich Choe, if this was Michael Jordan involved, I could see us doing something dumb it's hard to believe trader Jeff getting beat down on a trade. So it's like I'm trying to make some sense of it. But yeah, I don't. You know, how can you not be worried at least when you see here things like Sean's timeline.
00:15:41
Speaker 5: All right, let's go. Let's get on whether man Mark came in by the way, well, no, is he mad? Aga? He hopes that it rains at Jeff Peterson's house today, and only Jeff Peterson's house.
00:15:51
Speaker 4: All right, let's get one more call in here. Oh, you know this man's got to have an opinion.
00:15:55
Speaker 2: Game cock. Kevin is up next, Kevin, how is this news hitting you? Man?
00:16:01
Speaker 7: Well? Well, first of all, happy summer to y'all guys. I ain't y'all.
00:16:06
Speaker 2: I'm glad you out.
00:16:08
Speaker 7: Oh go ahead, Yah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, you know. I love y'all boys. I listen, man, but I ain't as engaged as I used to be. But I listen. You know, you know, you know I'm here, Matt, come on this, so check it out. I got real quick. Stop saying what are we doing? We've not done anything yet, like you've that's been your narrative the entire time. Like when you would kind of read what the potential trades were for Melow, you'd be like, well, what are we doing? It's like we've not done anything.
00:16:33
Speaker 6: Okay things here?
00:16:36
Speaker 7: Well, well okay, I don't think we're gonna make a mistake with Mellow, bro I don't. I don't see that happening. Now. There are a couple of things we need to look at here. Number One, with Mellow, the best we've done is to play in and we've never gotten out of the play in stage. And I get it, there's been injuries. Even last season. If them boys wasn't endured up front, I think we would have probably been in the top six. So yeah, do I want to run it back? Absolutely? Trade deadline is in the middle of the season. Let's kind of see how things go and let's do it. Then you're right about why now we don't need to do anything. Now, let's go ahead and run this thing back as of right now. But you also got to look at some other things. Guess what Guy's expansion is coming. You'll only be able to protect your top eight. We need to have a real solid top eight before we start talking about trading people. You know what I'm saying like in the next year or two there are gonna be two teams, one in Seattle one in Vegas. People not even thinking about that. We gotta think about the future. Nets, let's not just think about right now. So, in my opinion, is their chance that if we do keep Mellow for the next three years, will he re sign with us? That's another question you gotta answer, Mac, you know what I mean, Like, at some point, this guy gonna probably want to win a championship. Maybe not, Maybe he just want to ride his go cart on the top of the roof in Charlotte and ride Lambeau's down the street and get people. But at the end of the day, we have to figure this stuff out.
00:17:47
Speaker 2: Now.
00:17:48
Speaker 7: I do not want to trade him for scraps. I don't think that's gonna happen. If we do trade him for scraps, that's gonna be a big issue on this ownership and on this leadership. I do not think that's gonna happen. So I just say, everybody, Rea, let's just see what happened and we'll take it from there.
00:18:02
Speaker 5: I like a great call man. That's good trying to preach relax today on this show. Also yeah, well did you see what? And he's right, like, I don't know why am I saying? What are we doing when you just throw in the trade. Just a little nervous, Just a little nervous. I'm okay. But we did get accused boned by multiple textures of committing a crime that it will now forever be known as a Weatherman mark. People say, we are freaking out over something that hasn't happened yet either. Someone said maxmn up on his H and S roof all morning, saw LaMelo up there.
00:18:34
Speaker 2: In that go car.
00:18:36
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, I just I get what he's saying about. Hey, the three year contract and which which you know, is he gonna resign? I just think you gotta let this play out. Let this core breathe, let this core work. Maybe add to this core a little bit, but let's see what they can do. At some point near the end of Lamello, you know, then maybe you you know it, maybe you make a move. But just the timing's killing me.
00:18:55
Speaker 6: Man.
00:18:55
Speaker 2: But yeah, Jeff Peterson hadn't done anything yet. You wonder did they did?
00:18:59
Speaker 5: They all for him for Simonis along the way, and the Sacramento was not interested because they're trying to shed salary a little bit. And also they had their eyes on a cuff the whole time. So who knows, maybe maybe there were talks nar along the way. For all we know, that could have been part of that. They talked a lot of the Sacramento. It didn't work out, but they had a lot of talk to Sacramento. They did, and I just could see Sacramento saying, you know what, we were going to go this direction in the draft. We come back Terrence Oglesby, We'll try to make sense of this for us. We were gonna talk draft picks, but a little something happened along the way. So we'll talk to Terrence Oglesby of the fan Duel Sports Network next on Sports Radio.
00:19:39
Speaker 2: Z Oh my goodness.
00:20:07
Speaker 4: Cham's Sharonia just reporting two minutes ago on Twitter that the Hornets have traded Lamello and Josh Green to the Timberwolves for Nas Reid, a twenty thirty three unprotected first round pick, three first round picks swaps, and three second round picks. I don't know what to say. Where's the rest. We didn't get hit, we didn't get faked, did we? Maybe Schalms is wrong for once.
00:20:37
Speaker 5: I am lost, not only on the conversation of the player, but I like nas Reid, but maybe not in this sense. Also, the picks seven years away, it's all pick swaps. It doesn't really match salary. Yeah, that's a lot of picks. By legit, where's the rest of Jeff Peters had got all the second round picks that you didn't get this year. There's got to be another thing happening here. Also on the minutes to front, they just signed Assumo for one hundred and twelve million dollars. They have Edwards, They not bringing Lamello. How does all that? How does the Sumu and Mellow and all that work together?
00:21:10
Speaker 7: There?
00:21:10
Speaker 4: It doesn't really make it a lot idle. I'm lost, it says. You see Sean's second tweet. By the way, we're getting tarasugles be in the second who is also welcome to the finding this out just like we are. But Sham's next tweet the Timberwolve send a hall to the Hornets for a star stud, a new back court, Anthony Edwards and LaMelo Ball. Charlotte didn't shop Ball in the market, but listened and received multiple rich offers before filling a significant need in the front court with Red. Ironically, I will say this, nas Reed is a type of stretch for that we've all met. I watched him specifically. Nas rebutted so Tooby, it's your point guard, Brandon Kahan. Nas Reed, you save a lot of salary. I don't. It's it's I don't know. This is hard to process, man, They give hard to process. They get fleeced by Alex Rodriguez.
00:21:53
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
00:21:55
Speaker 4: Alright, Alex Rodrigez's tweets, Oh my goodness. Anyway, By the way, we still got at some point give away to these monster jam four pack of tickets.
00:22:03
Speaker 2: We'll do that before we get out of there.
00:22:05
Speaker 6: Out of it.
00:22:06
Speaker 5: By the way, we told Terrence Ogles I want to talk about honas at Christian Anderson.
00:22:09
Speaker 4: Terres thought this was an easy draft breakdown, layup segment. Are now he's got to react live to this.
00:22:14
Speaker 2: Oh goodness.
00:22:15
Speaker 4: I'm Terras Ogles b from the pre and post game shows on the Hornets TV network. On Fandal, he joins us here on the Mac and Bone show, t O, what do you think of the news of this trade?
00:22:28
Speaker 8: Man, I'm just as shocked as you are. I'm sitting here I love nas Reed. I think he's one of the most underappreciated players in the NBA, and that is an area where the Hornets need to get bigger. You see the need for physicality and the play in tournament this year. They need to get a little bit bigger. They need to get a little bit more physical. Nas Reed certainly fits that mold, and it also puts a notice on like how much the Hornets appreciate Probably White, and it also says how much faith they have in Christian Anderson and guys. I saw Christian Anderson before he was at Texas Tech, playing with the U nineteen World Cup team in Switzerland, and he is really really stinking good And it's just he is on the smaller side. But really, what this does to me is it says how much the Hornets love Kobe White and it looks like they're going to hitch their wagon into the Kobe White continent when Brandon Miller express because it doesn't have the flash that LaMelo brings, but there's a whole lot of substance there and you get bigger and more physical with nas Reed. I like the pick swaps. Here's I'm scared, I'll be honest with you, gentlemen. After my Mark Williams debacle, I'm scared to death to say anything without absolutely going through first. I'm just gonna go ahead and say it. With Lamello and his injury history and how narrow he has built, is this a cell high situation?
00:23:54
Speaker 4: Yeah?
00:23:54
Speaker 8: Where he played seventy two games, this is a cell high situation because he played extraordinary basketball this year. Did they think, well, this is as good as it gets for LaMelo? That's that's what my curiosity is. I have talked to nobody in the front office there in Charlotte. This is me speculating the same way you guys are.
00:24:10
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
00:24:10
Speaker 5: Is it a little weird to you on the Minnesota front too? They just signed to SUMU and now they go get mellow? Is that is that kind of a weird fit for Melow? Does it make sense for him?
00:24:22
Speaker 8: The whole on their side of the ordeal, Like they just shipped out Julius Randall, They signed assuming to a big year, a big, big deal, and then it's Lamello and Anthony Edwards. Anthony Edwards is better dominating the ball. LaMelo is better dominating the ball. Uh, it's a cure excuse me. It's a curious ordeal. How do they manage that?
00:24:44
Speaker 6: Uh?
00:24:45
Speaker 8: I don't know how that's going to go. But I'm sitting here, I'm looking at all this stuff. Guys without my without my rosters in front, go ahead together. It's that's two that's two ball dominant guys on their end, and assume it's kind of in the same mold. So curious how that works.
00:24:59
Speaker 2: What do you say?
00:25:00
Speaker 4: Okay, So here's been our stance all day, and we've had all day. Right, the rumors started breaking last night, and credit to Sham's man, a lot of us were doubting, really this is something like this is gonna happen this quickly, and he said it last night, could happen in twenty four or forty eight hours. And here we go. But you know, a lot of our stance on it had been too that. Hey, this team is after so many frustrating years and then the injury plague years. Man, they really put it together, and it seemed like the new health staff kind of found a way along with the you know brass there, found a way to keep LaMelo healthy. LaMelo seemed to be you know, coachable, right. It seemed like they were getting more defense out of them, and it just we finally had momentum. So it's hard for a Hornets fan to want to break that up, Like, how do you feel about doing this when it feels like we have momentum?
00:25:50
Speaker 8: You know, the only thing I can come back to and again, I want to be absolutely clear that this is me. So this is a cell high situation with a mammoth contract with what LaMelo had, and it gives you room to resign Kobe for what he wants. It gives you room to operate a little bit thinking, you know, Minnesota is not going to be able to those first round pick swaps are going to be big because I think the Hornets have faith that they're going to be really tough. I really do. And you look at the collective collective size, and I think, you know, LaMelo was, He's narrowly built. He's tall, but he's narrowly built. That type of frame. Typically it sends the message of well, he could get hurt a little bit more. Guys, I'm just as shocked as you are trying to figure this out. But at the same time, I do think, I do think if you're Charlotte and you're looking to get out of the LaMelo business, which would make sense if you're trying to build something sustainable in the long term and not worry about injury because he has shown the propensity to get hurt. This is a cell high situation.
00:26:58
Speaker 5: If you're the Hornets, what do you think of the Hants draft pick? Just to go a different direction momentarily, what do you think of Hannis?
00:27:07
Speaker 7: Want me to keep this?
00:27:08
Speaker 8: You guys want me to keep this ten seconds or less?
00:27:13
Speaker 3: No.
00:27:14
Speaker 8: I love Hannes Steinbach. He was the second best big man at you nineteen Worlds in Switzerland. He goes up to Washington and he gets a forgot about a little bit because the Pacific Northwestern College Basketball. Do they like it? Yeah? Do they love it? I would say no. I will say this. I've heard comparisons to Steven Adams. He's a better passer than that. I don't think he's quite as big as Stephen Adams, but he really rebounds, he's tough, He's got a lot of skill. So is he an absolute upgrade at the five spot? They've drafted really well. I do think he's better offensively than Ryan Kulkbrenner, and he's put together wider than Caulkbrenner. He's put together. He's a lot heavier than Mussa Diabat. I think he's a starting quality big man. But guy, there's part of me that thinks the Hornets aren't finished with this whole ordeal.
00:28:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I'm kind of taking that too.
00:28:02
Speaker 5: Like, that's a lot of picks they've collect They already had a lot of picks.
00:28:05
Speaker 2: Now they've gotten more. They've got a lot more.
00:28:08
Speaker 4: Now you bring in like Bridges as could go right now because you brought in nas Reed, he's your starting four. Drafted in Steinbacher, so Bridges in another trade at some point. I just I don't know, man, I hope there's more to come, to be honest with you, all right, t O, Let's talk more about Anderson, because all of a sudden, now yesterday, at this time, I was hoping we re signed Kobe, we have Lamello, and Anderson can ease into things right as kind of the third ball handler. Now, like you said, this very well might show, Hey, we we love the way our offense played when Kobe was on the court.
00:28:41
Speaker 2: We can save money and he's our one. We drafted Anderson.
00:28:44
Speaker 4: They were probably thinking He's ready to be our two on the offensive end. I love Anderson. The shooting's ridiculous, the pick and roll, the savviness of the way he runs a pick and roll is really cool. But you mentioned the size, like is he a target on defense? Like, what do you think about the pros and cons of Christian Anderson?
00:29:06
Speaker 8: He's much better than kJ Simpsons. Okay, we got that and that, so that's good news. You know, he played on the German national team with Hannes Steinbach, so there's some connection there and they were really good and pick and roll together. The other portion of that is, you know, he is six two, but he's got six six six seven wings fans, so he's a little bit longer than given credit for. He's had some big rebounding moments during the course of the season last year. He competes at a really high level, and he could very well be the best shooter in this year's draft. So that's kind of where I'm at with him. I've always been a big fan of his game. There's a certain toughness about him. He's played with the senior national teams and that Germany doesn't just do that, so you have to have some game about you. I'm I think he could come in and play minutes right away. And I don't think they're going to be like figure it out, They're going to come in and bust a couple shit. So, like I said, though, do I have faith he could play immediately?
00:30:04
Speaker 3: Yeah?
00:30:04
Speaker 8: This is a strong draft class. What was he picked at eighteen? Like you, there's quality players at eighteen. Now, I think he's a guy that can come in and play minutes immediately, and he's going to be able to knock down shots for you quickly.
00:30:17
Speaker 5: We're talking to Terrence oglesby FanDuel Sports Network here on the Mack and Bone Show. Looking up right now, it's surreal. All the TVs right now too, are all about the Hornets, trading mellow balls, the Timberwolves. We came in to day Terrence thinking, yeah, this will be a pretty easy show. As of last night, this will be an easy show. No Hornets second rounders. Our biggest concern this morning was why did Henry Vasar drop solo in the draft for the Heels? And now look at us, Oh my god, this is crazy. I appreciate you reacting on the fly.
00:30:46
Speaker 4: Yeah, somebody said, Teo's the designator reactor to trades in town.
00:30:51
Speaker 2: Remember Mark to even made that same joke sir.
00:30:54
Speaker 6: Before thee.
00:30:58
Speaker 4: Oh my god, oh hey, I would bone brought up the Vassar situation and also Isaiah Evans in I just want to ask you that, because you're at college basketball, nut and you cover it so much as well field A sixty eight ESPN and elsewhere, what do you think when you see in the nil era where Isaiah Evans, whether at Duke or somewhere else, theysare Carolina somewhere else. It sounds like Carolina. He could have got five million plus to play. It's just maybe this is the maybe I'm showing my age and I feel like I want to act like their dads. But it kills me that some of these guys they take the risk, will we get a first round guaranteed deal, and then they don't. Why not stay in school, make millions and keep working on your game. Does it hit you the same way.
00:31:39
Speaker 6: Or no.
00:31:42
Speaker 8: As a guy who declared early. Yeah, it hurts me for them even more because you know, you get bad advice and happened to me. You know, I left after my sophomore season thinking I'd go over to Europe and then come back and I end up going over there and getting lost, and the chance for development is is fine over there, but it wasn't what it could have been in college. So I say all that to say this, now that they have money, now that they are making extraordinary amounts of money, five million dollars, I think. I think the pick is like number sixteen in order to like, if you have to beat five million dollars, you have to go in the top sixteen or something like that. Like I'm not sure what they starts thinking you can get one track minded, which is what I did. I was like, I have to make it. I have to go. I have to go. But it comes to a point where somebody has to pull you back and be like, hey man, college life isn't that bad. It's not like your classes are all that hard. Like go go back to school, collect checks, and then we'll see how it all works.
00:32:43
Speaker 4: Man, all right, and that's that's good. Yeah, I forgot all about your situation. That was a pretty good, honest answer there.
00:32:49
Speaker 5: And you're saying Ryan Windhorst loves the trade on get up right now for the hornets?
00:32:54
Speaker 4: Really?
00:32:54
Speaker 8: Yeah, Yeah, Like I said to me, I just want to make sure the trade goes through, but it's to me, I love the trade because it's a so high situation. You get draft picks involved, and I think nas Reed is I have a lot of respect for what he does and he deserves to be a starter.
00:33:14
Speaker 4: He's a winning player, man, and we have missed that profile right of the stretch. Four miles, very inconsistent shooting from outside. He's a true four size wise. All right, brother, hey, we appreciate you. We did not have a crystal ball and know that you would be on here live reacting to the trade. You did an amazing job of it. My friend, have a great summer and thanks for coming on.
00:33:33
Speaker 2: Man, appreciate you absolutely.
00:33:36
Speaker 4: Guys, all right, Terah Soclesby did not know what he signed up for there, but that was pretty good one of us candid Live response. It's just hard for me to get where he is saying now by the end of the conversation, now he's like, yeah, I like the trade. I like nas Reed too, is a piece we would type of peace bone that we would ah add to an improving core.
00:33:55
Speaker 2: I don't. And then the.
00:33:55
Speaker 4: Three pick swaps, so you're not getting extra picks on those years, you're just raging picks, Like, what's the point of that?
00:34:03
Speaker 2: I need picks outright? Mac?
00:34:05
Speaker 5: How about Mark? How about Mark Stein's wording here on the tree? I love this. The Hornets have successfully pride nas Read away from the Wolves. Oh well, that's great, is that the headline? And God, I've chained the Hornets will now to try to retain Kobe White and fend off the Pistons. That's our next warry. Here the multiple textures saying what good is the Oh? God, if you lose Kobe White two, we're gonna have a freaking breakdown. We've already had a text say I'm canceling. I can't just cancel my season, diggts.
00:34:33
Speaker 4: So the Hornets are gonna have to get out there with their message on this abruptly.
00:34:37
Speaker 5: Yeah, multiple, we find that we finally fleece the Wolves for nas Reed. There we go, Mark, Yeah, we're winners, baby. Multiple texters are saying, what good are the pick swaps? If they're the better team and they're drafting lower than us, that's a that's point too. Maybe the Hornets think they're gonna be a better team. I don't, I don't know.
00:34:55
Speaker 2: It just makes me.
00:34:56
Speaker 4: It goes back to what a text sent in bon In a while back, where the was this core it was this group of Schlotkin, Lee and Peterson. Did they just all not think LaMelo was really their flavor? And they were trying to evaluate him, Like Teo said, they saw a chance where now's the time to trade him. He was actually healthy. But again, wouldn't you think we'd get more than this?
00:35:19
Speaker 5: It happened so fast it makes you wonder what really went on. It happened quickly, and you look at it and say, was that the best offer? Did they they moved so quickly on this one? Was that the best offer? And then you can, in hidsight mac man, if they could have done something in the draft and move, Not that I don't like what they drafted, but man, if you're wanting to if you're wanting the point guard and it wasn't Kobe White, there were plenty of guys there. Maybe guys weren't willing to trade out of those spots, but man, that was a heavy point guard draft to replace Mellow and it just went on and we weren't a part of that. I would have loved I would have loved the Wagglayer if they could have got him in this whole thing.
00:35:58
Speaker 4: Gonster Is said, Now, that'd be too good, that would make too much sense. Gonster is saying, apparently we get a forty two million dollar trade exception, largest in league history. Yeah, there's a lot we got to dig up here. We're trying to react to it live on the air. But my god, LaMelo ball traded to the Ward forty two million. My word, the salaries are ridiculously different here.
00:36:17
Speaker 2: Yes, Like, if it's.
00:36:18
Speaker 4: Just nas Reed, I don't know what he makes, Bone, but LaMelo makes forty five, forty six, forty three something in that neighborhood, Green makes what around fifteen? Yeah, like that's a huge salary difference. Man os Reed has a bigger deal than you think. By the way, he's on a five year, one twenty five, so he's twenty five million a year. Yes, okay, trying to see when it started. But yea, all right, let's do this real quick. Here's what we're gonna do. We gotta do this giveaway for we've got four years left on his zeal. Man got twenty three, twenty five, twenty six, twenty eight. We got to do this giveaway very fast here, Bone, all I can think of is Charlotte. We're shook right now, let's give you a price. So Monster Jam is coming up at Spectrum Center July eighteenth and nineteen eighth.
00:37:01
Speaker 2: Absolute blast.
00:37:02
Speaker 4: Take the family, and right now we have a family four pack of tickets that you can win by texting in gravedigger. Text in gravedigger right now, one word fitty. We're making it one word. It's two two between two words grave digger. Two words. Text it into seven O four five seven nine. Oh my god, you couldn't hear me over that. We finally found a way bone to where people can't hear me scerymouth, Holy hell, y'all. You need to weaponize that fitty anyway. Seven O four five seven oh nine six And there's the Monster Jam. Roar right now, text us. We will do a drawing, will pick a winner, and somebody will get to enjoy Monster Jam and forget about LaMelo Ball being traded.
00:37:47
Speaker 5: Someone asks how long until LeVar is trying to get all the the Ball family members in Minnesota?
00:37:52
Speaker 2: God, my road trip to Minnesota. I'm shook. Man.
00:37:55
Speaker 5: All right, we come back. We reevaluate our not our lives. That seems a little strong. We reevaluate the Hornets trade. We get you said for the wrap up, and I gotta tell you back. I'm sorry to wear down the one I need an IV Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ.
00:38:25
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
00:38:25
Speaker 4: The text line now demanding Steph Curry be acquired and brought home.
00:38:30
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
00:38:31
Speaker 4: The rest of you are freaking out valuing to get rid of your tickets. Wes Bryant's promo was cut before any of this news was out, so he's telling everybody We're gonna be thrilling and chilling on a Thursday. Wes, I don't think y'all gonna be chilling today, baby, I think there's gonna be ranting and raven today. Oh my goodness, man, Lamello ball traded. Sham's had to report first to Minnesota, Josh Green and LaMelo.
00:38:54
Speaker 2: That's the thing.
00:38:54
Speaker 4: We give up two players and we only get one back. We get nas reed back and.
00:38:59
Speaker 5: Brought great point. Though, what does this mean for Sibonis? Because could you add him if you ended up with the front line, because I'm assuming Bridges is not a part of this. When you Noa's Read's got a pretty hefty contract for who he is and then you drafted that spot. Miles Bridges won't be a part of this. But if your perimeter was Kobe White, you gotta sign him. But Kobe White, con and Miller, and your front line was nas and Sabonis, and then you had a bunch of young guys on the bad.
00:39:27
Speaker 2: This is not going to be terrible. This is not going back to the Bobby.
00:39:30
Speaker 5: That would be a hell of an offensive front line because Nod's constructed and some bonus canpac it like that's not the end of the world.
00:39:36
Speaker 4: But and you just saved about thirty five million dollars, so now you've got more money to.
00:39:40
Speaker 5: Absorbs Sibonis, and then that involves signing Kobe White. But there are pass here to be a really good basketball We're not going back to the to the dark years. I don't think I agree with t O. We're not done. I agree with t O, We're not done. But man, this is just this trail of the metal. Oh and I wanted to throw in it's it's I was trying to read off bone the term. It's LaMelo and Josh Green to the Timberwolves for Nas Reed, a twenty thirty three unprotected first round pick in seven years, three first round picks swaps, so we just exchanged picks in twenty eight, twenty nine, and thirty and the three second round picks. It's just, man, I just feel I can't help feeling like MIKEL Bridges got five first round picks outright.
00:40:21
Speaker 2: I know, I know, we can't help feeling like we.
00:40:23
Speaker 4: Didn't get I like nas a lot, but like it just feels like we didn't get much back.
00:40:26
Speaker 5: Like they must have wanted have gone. I know there's the shock of how quick this happened. I am too, but I do think, like t O said, nas Reed does. He's not mellow, but there is a toughness in a physical like nas Reed. I've always been a fan of nos Reed. Did I want to get him for mellow now? I never thought that. But nas Reed is not just a throw and he he's a very productive fore man for this team.
00:40:51
Speaker 2: O Hornets fans wanted him.
00:40:52
Speaker 4: His name has come up routinely when we have talked about upgrading at the floor and a guy that can stretch the floor of the floor. His name comes up all the time. Never did we imagine LaMelo Ball would be traded and how do you get only one outright new first round pick.
00:41:07
Speaker 5: Well, the problem is that it goes back to what we said. Remember, they don't have a lot of their.
00:41:10
Speaker 4: Picks, but but but they have the picks they can swap with us.
00:41:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, how are those first round swaps? Moan?
00:41:17
Speaker 4: How are they not out outright first round picks or at least another first round pick? Like it's crazy and it makes you wonder what the brass really thought about LaMelo because they all inherited him from ownership on down. So so Schlock and our boys Schnaul and Plotkin are doing a charity.
00:41:34
Speaker 2: Like media ga right right, No, that's a question, right, and.
00:41:37
Speaker 4: This the case, But they can't talk about anything other than what is it some new kit What is it?
00:41:42
Speaker 2: What did y'all tell me during to bru? Was it a new kitchen, the new kitchen partnership or something? What is this? That is correct?
00:41:49
Speaker 4: Clearly they can't talk about because it's not it's not official. I wouldn't think until the new league year type thing. But like what media wants to sit there and hear that kind of stuff in the middle of this You just your franchise player.
00:42:02
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't talk about it yet, so I guess that's that's part of it. It's almost like, should you do the held the events? I don't even know, man, I don't even freaking know, all right, and I just work here, man, I don't freaking know. We got a New York butcher Shop cut of the day here, right, Yeah, this will make you laugh at least. This is a tremendous This is on with the part of my take.
00:42:22
Speaker 2: Boys.
00:42:22
Speaker 4: Uh Wyndham Clark, fresh off winning the US Open. They bring up an old tweet of him hating on Baker Mayfield.
00:42:28
Speaker 2: Listen to this. This is tremendous. You did tweet I.
00:42:31
Speaker 1: Hate Baker Mayfield, and I was just curious if you still feel that way. Maybe your thoughts on that, Maybe you're that hating your heart's gonna weary where you're at on that.
00:42:40
Speaker 3: I'm trying to decide if I should tell the story.
00:42:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, screw it. I don't care. People already hate me, so uh no, it's not that bad. My PR team's here.
00:42:53
Speaker 1: Listen, your PR team's on the hot seat because we're coming up with ideas they never thought of.
00:42:57
Speaker 2: No, they didn't. They brought me for everything. They prap me for this one. My girlfriend at the time cheated on me with Baker. Make Oh that's a fair tweet. Okay, Yeah, here's what I want to say as i've as I have come to like, I'm actually a Baker fan now I think he's a homie. I you know, that's your initial response, screw that guy, but really screwed it, you know, yeah, yeah, your girlfriend? Yeah, but yeah, so I'm I'm a Baker fan now.
00:43:28
Speaker 8: But you know that's where it came from.
00:43:30
Speaker 1: That's a totally we were trying to figure it out. We're like, oh, well, Oklahoma State, there's natural hate there. No, this is uh, that's a totally fair tweet. This is this is personal.
00:43:39
Speaker 8: I pull back.
00:43:40
Speaker 1: This is a bro moment for us to be like, oh, bro, I didn't know my bad she never told me, and I'm.
00:43:45
Speaker 2: Like, I's all good, we're homies. Let's play golf. Yes, where this comes from.
00:43:52
Speaker 5: They thought it was the Oklahoma State Oklahoma tie and apparently not.
00:43:55
Speaker 4: Were they both at Oklahoma and Oklahoma State the same time? Yes, okay, so that would track that there could be a woman in Oklahoma.
00:44:02
Speaker 2: Maybe then leave it.
00:44:03
Speaker 4: To them that strike gold on an answer that goes viral, right, I got score one for Boomer Sooner. Boomer Sooner beat him on the field all the time, and did I won this one? Oh my, I need a Baker response. I need a Baker response saying my bad, bro, I didn't know. Let's play golf. I need that weather man. Mark Mack has us back to twenty wins again.
00:44:20
Speaker 5: So there we go.
00:44:21
Speaker 2: If Mark could be back at Whopper's courtroom. Uh.
00:44:24
Speaker 5: Richie points out that nos Rey's older than a lot of the core of the team. Mac not that much. He's twenty six years old. What an ancient decaying player read. A little bit older, but not a whole lot there. Man, Yeah they still have somebody, says Mack. They have three first round picks next year to trade. There's still a big move for a star player. Yeah, I mean you to declare us dead here moving forward, But I wasn't expecting this off last year. Like, it's gonna take some time for us to process this.
00:44:53
Speaker 4: Man, process away all day with the boys here at WFNZ, Colin, then Wes and Walker and then Kyle bay Man keep it right here, process away.
00:45:02
Speaker 2: We all will be doing that together.
00:45:04
Speaker 5: It's some one said thoughts in prayers all the Minnesota in shirts agents.
00:45:08
Speaker 4: Oh my guy, at least that's a new twist on the joke, because right now, Bone, we have about twenty since the trade was reported twenty minutes ago, twenty texts I would guess, saying the streets are safer now in Charles, and one.
00:45:20
Speaker 2: Said mellow drove himself to the airport and drove right to the gate.
00:45:25
Speaker 4: Oh man, all right, anyway, we're out of here, y'all. Colin Haggard takes the baton from here as we try to figure out what to make of the LaMelo ball trade to Minnesota.
00:45:36
Speaker 2: Colin coming up next,
