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Welcome to the Laurie Davis Show, where it's all about
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the amazing lifestyle on our Treasure Coast. And here's your
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host and realtor for life, Laurie Davis.
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Hello, hello, and welcome to the show. We're so excited
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to have you here today. Coming in, it's that time
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in Florida, it's October, and we haven't, knock on wood,
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had any Weather related other than the normal rain. But man,
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the rain that's been coming in, Cindy, is your street
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flooded over there?
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Well, it's kind of.
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But you know what?
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This is my thought about all of it. I'm just
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looking for myself on the thing here. This is my
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thought about it is I'd rather have the rain all
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day long than even bother with any hurricane names.
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Of course. Absolutely.
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Absolutely.
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It's 20 minutes and it's done.
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I know. Everybody now knows the word. It's just a cell.
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It's just like it's just going to come through and
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it's going to go. And it could be it could
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be sunny in 20 minutes.
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Right. You never know.
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You never know.
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Yeah.
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But the Laurie Davis show. I'm Laurie Davis, your realtor
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for life.
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The reason why I do this show is to tell
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people about what's going on around Vero Beach, because I
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think that this beautiful little microcosm of a city, a village,
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a town that we live in, which really lives more
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like that than a city. Of course, it's Indy River County.
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And I'm encompassing all of that because even though our
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whole county is 167,000 people, which is a lot smaller
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than a lot of people's cities in the state of Florida,
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we put together these great little towns, Vero Beach. We've
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got unincorporated Vero.
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We've got Felsmere. We've got Sebastian.
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And there's just so many wonderful things going on there.
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And people are choosing our area, India River County, Vero Beach,
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for lots of reasons. And one of them is what
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we've got going on in the education system. Here in
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Indian River County, we had Dr.
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Moore on.
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He's the superintendent of schools for Indian River County a
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couple of months ago and loved having him on. He's
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so supportive of all things that are going on in
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the community. And our guest today, what we're talking about
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is something that's very interesting. And they've started Vero Classical Schools. Now,
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before I get into all that, because there's so much
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to talk about, it's so exciting. And even before we
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started the show, all of the questions we were all
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talking about and like, oh, I didn't know it was that. Oh,
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I found out it was this. Oh, look at what
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we know now about what is it. There's just a
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lot of questions, but it's an amazing organization. And new
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to town, it's been in business. They've been teaching children
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for about four years. But let's start with thanking Citrus Grillhouse,
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our sponsor. They always provide us with something lovely to
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have to share on the show. Today is a beverage.
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They have their new fall cocktail menu, as you well know. Oh,
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I think we had the salted caramel espresso martini last week.
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Yeah, it was fabulous. You said you liked that.
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It was fabulous.
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Yeah, I sent Cindy home with it. She can't. She
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can't do it while she's working the board.
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Too many buttons.
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I know, too. Yes, exactly.
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Today, it's a white cranberry Cosmo, which is Belvedere vodka, Cointreau,
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white cranberry juice, and fresh lime.
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And it is absolutely delicious. Chilled, served in a martini glass.
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You could also have it over ice. Let's see. It
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looks like it tastes good. Yes, it looks like water.
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Okay.
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But it's, it's, it's, um, Alex dangerous. You know how
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Alex makes his cocktails.
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Yeah.
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We were talking about the staff behind the bar at
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citrus girl house. We love citrus girl house over at
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10 50 Easter Lily lane. Wonderful restaurant. If it's not fresh,
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they're not serving it. They are right there at Humiston park.
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So they're the restaurant that's directly on the ocean. You
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can eat lunch or dinner there Mondays until Saturdays. It's
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absolutely beautiful. Um, The staff is wonderful. The location is great.
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And the weather is going to get nicer and nicer.
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So sitting on that patio is going to be even
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better every day. And even if it rains out, you
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can still sit on the patio. But, you know, we're
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often inside. I like to sit at the bar with
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my friends and talk to Christy or Ivan or any
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of the other people that are working back there.
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So thank you. Thank you, Citrus Girl House, for the
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beverage of the day.
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OK, so I think a lot of us hear the
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words classical education and think, OK, what exactly does that mean?
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because classical, the Vero Beach Classical School, a lot of
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people think, oh, is it music? Because of classical music,
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it's just a word that's associated very often with that.
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Well, I have two people here who can explain it
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much better than I can.
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Scott Simpson, he's the head of the school, and Jameson Kelly,
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one of the founders of Vero Classical School.
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Welcome. Thank you for coming to the show, guys.
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Thank you for having us.
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Thank you for having us.
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Cindy?
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There we go.
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It's a delayed audience.
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I know.
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What if this audience is sleeping? I don't know what's
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going on.
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Jameson, as a founder, I wanted to start my first
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question with you, and that was, how did this whole
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thing begin?
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Tell us.
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If I'm being honest, I would say it probably started
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about 15 years ago when I was a senior in college.
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So I studied elementary education at Wheaton College in Illinois.
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And upon graduating, I had the opportunity to teach first
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grade at Covenant Classical School.
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Of Naperville in Naperville, Illinois.
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And it was my first exposure to classical education. And
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I have to say I was blown away by the curriculum,
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by the teachers, by the head of school, the training
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I received. I couldn't believe what the kids were capable
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of in first grade. So there was formal grammar training.
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They were able to write really well. They knew all
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the parts of speech. They were learning chronological history. And
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then another part of it was the teacher, the training
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wanted me to focus just as much on the development
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of the child's virtues and their heart just as much
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as the development of their mind.
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So I loved, I fell in love with it.
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And so fast forward to when I have my own kids,
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I have four boys, no, three boys, not four.
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Feels like four sometimes.
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I have one, so I know it feels like three.
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I know exactly what you're saying.
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I have three boys.
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And so I really wanted them to be classically educated
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and there was no option for that in our town.
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So over the course of time, I just deeply wanted
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that for them. And so the Lord just put it
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on my heart and my husband's heart to start Vero
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Classical School. And now Christian classical education is available to
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lots of children instead of me just homeschooling mine classically.
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I love that.
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Because there is a Christian part of this, of this
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education there. Are all classical schools, do they have that
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Christian part of it?
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No, you actually could find classical charter schools all over
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the nation that don't have the Christian element. But then
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you will also find Christian classical schools in the private setting,
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where for us in particular, the Christian part is just
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as popular.
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Just as prominent as the classical part. They're hand in hand.
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We have, you know, scripture as the foundation of all
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truth at our school. And we weave the truth of
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God's word through all the subjects.
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Okay.
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I would, you know, I want to sit in. Yes,
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we'd love to have you. I think it would be
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really cool.
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Well, I just, like you said, to be fascinated by
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what first graders are learning. I mean, and in the
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right environment. And I told you that my son went
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to St. Helens and they had, gosh, I think they
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had 30 kids, but You've got 30 kids that.
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Want to learn.
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And you're at all different levels of understanding and knowledge, right?
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But when you're in the right environment, you can teach
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them and they will learn. And it's, you know, it's
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amazing what you can get done.
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One of the things that we really focus on, and
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it's one of the paradigms of classical education, is re-enchanting
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the classroom, trying to really engage them with wonder and
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awe and preserving their love of learning for as long
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as possible. Because we really want kids to graduate from
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Bureau Classical School and want to be lifelong learners as
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opposed to, you know, drudgery of school or I don't
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like school anymore. We really want them to love and
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have a spark for learning.
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Scott, so tell us now, how did you end up?
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You were in Indian River County school system for a
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long time.
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And so what what was it about the classical school
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that drew you to that?
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So I had heard that Michael and Jameson Kelly were
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starting a new new school and I had met them
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a couple of times prior to that time. And I
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was approached a couple of times to consider because they
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were looking for ahead of school. And at first my
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answer was no, I'm enjoying where I am. I was
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enjoying the school I was working with. I felt like
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I was doing a great job as principal. And my
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original intention of meeting with Michael and Jamison was honestly
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just to help them out. So I've always been a
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proponent of choice, whether you send your kid public, private, charter, magnet, homeschool,
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parents need to do what they need to do is
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best for their child. And so I met with them,
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and I had about two pages of things, of things
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they needed to do to make sure the school was
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going to run well. Because you don't just start a school.
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I know. I was like, that's pretty ballsy.
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It's very complicated.
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And I always tell people, as complicated as you think
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school is, multiply it by about 10 when you actually,
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especially if you sit in the principal's seat or a
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founder's seat. It's very, very complicated. So I sat with
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them to have a dinner and kind of, hey, here's
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everything that you need to do. Have you thought about this?
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Have you thought about this? And about two hours later,
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I realized that if they didn't already have the answer
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to it, they had thought about it. And the response was,
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that's why we need someone like you. But we understand
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this is the direction we can go. And then the
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more I dove very deeply into what classical education is,
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I felt that resonated with who I've always been, both
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as a teacher and as a leader. And even today,
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when I'm looking for teachers, there are classically minded teachers
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all over Indian River County, all over Florida, all over
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the world, where they're If they get a chance to
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come teach at a classical school, the adjective I hear
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the most is refreshing. This is refreshing to my soul.
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This is who I want to be as a teacher.
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And again, we'll go into more detail of classical education.
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But it has been refreshing. And it truly is just
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a wonderful way to educate a child.
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And how long have you been there now, Scott?
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This is year number four. So we opened as a K-4.
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Okay.
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And then we added a fifth grade and then sixth grade.
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So that very first class of fourth grade is now
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seventh grade. And they will be the first graduating class
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of 2032. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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Yeah, I got to congratulate you. There we go.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That audience, we needed some coffee in there.
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We're excited for our first graduating class.
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Well, they're having some of those citrus girl house drinks.
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Yeah, right?
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No, they will not.
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So on to that, then our next question leads into Jameson.
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What makes a classical education different? If I walked into
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one of your classrooms, what would I notice?
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in other classrooms and other settings, but our teachers have
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a real joy for what they're doing, a deep expertise
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of what they're teaching, and the passion that they feel
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translates to the children really well. They also, the quality
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of the curriculum that they're teaching is really high. We're
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teaching the science of spelling, which creates really good readers.
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We're building a strong foundation mathematically. Science, they study one
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thing all year long, so a deep love of something
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rather than kind of a bunch of different things all
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year long, just one.
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comes home talking about all the different stars and the
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constellations and this particular planet and his passion for it.
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You can see because he's getting a deep look. The teachers,
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I think, also work really well together. They feel a camaraderie.
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They feel a respect from us. They know we care
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about them, faith, family, and then your job. And I
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think that that translates well to them. They also are
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very— they' re really focused, and I can't stress this enough, in
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a Christian classical school, they are really focused on who
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the child is.
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We have small class sizes.
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They're really— when they are— You don't have to do any
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kind of discipline because our school isn't full of like
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angel children.
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Like all children make mistakes.
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All children need correction.
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I know.
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I know.
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But the way that our teachers go about correction is
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really after the heart of the child, not just behavioral management.
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And I think that their love for students really shines through.
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And so when we are looking to hire teachers, we
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really look for people that we would.
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Want the children to emulate.
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So joy of learning, a real prolific relationship with Christ
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on their own, and a love of learning that translates
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to the kids.
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You have to love kids, love learning, and love Jesus.
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And I think that's very evident when you walk in
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the classroom.
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And so it's— When I looked at it, because I
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looked up, if anybody watching this wants to look up
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classical education, it's really gone back to like reading, writing,
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and arithmetic, and science. You know, you're going to add
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in those things, technology, whatever. But it's the basics. Yes.
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It's really the basics.
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And like you're saying, you're focusing in on those specifically.
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it's harkening back to– thousand years ago the way people
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learned in Greece and Rome. So a true liberal arts education,
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how to think, how to argue well, how to be
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persuasive without being divisive. And so it's.
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Called the trivium.
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So we've got grammar school, logic school, and rhetoric, which
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translates to elementary, middle, and high school. And it really
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lends itself to the natural development of a child. So
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in grammar school, there's a lot of collection of information, chants, songs,
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just building a foundation of knowledge. And then they step
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into logic school where they naturally want, I don't know
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if you've been around middle.
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School lately, but they like to ask questions. Why is
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it like that? And so it's meaning making.
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They have formal logic training so they can break down
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a bad argument and they can build a good argument.
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And it's kind of how can they synthesize information? And
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then rhetoric school, which we don't have yet, but it's
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kind of the capstone.
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It's coming.
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9th, 10th, 11th, and 12th.
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They really focus on speaking and writing eloquently. So there's
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also a public speaking aspect that has been largely lost
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in today's society. So even in kindergarten, they have opportunities
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to speak before their class.
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Lots of memory work. It's not monotonous.
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The kids really enjoy it, hand motions and everything, but
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It's really hearkening back to the old way of educating
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students in a hope that they become citizens that think
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really well and communicate really well.
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Right. Scott, so then coming back to you, you've worked
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in the public school system for many, many years.
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Yes.
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Now you're in this private school system, obviously loving it.
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And I think I love that. Tell me what kind
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of a child does well in this or can any
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child do well in this environment?
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Yeah, I believe in any child. can do well and
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does do well. I prefer having students when they have
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an opportunity to experience the entire range of Vero Classical
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School from kindergarten through 12th grade. We very much have
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conversations with our students that we truly do believe that
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every single subject is good, true and beautiful in itself
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and worth learning. There is a joy in learning science
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and there's a joy in learning mathematics. There's a joy
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in learning Shakespeare, but it also gives you skill. And
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we talk about, and when you say joy, it doesn't
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mean you're always smiling. Go out on a soccer field
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and no one's smiling. But at the end of the game,
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you say, how was that?
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Oh, it was great.
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And then the smiles come. So hard work, you can
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find joy, but sometimes it takes energy to find joy.
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And I truly believe that anyone who wants to can
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find joy in any subject. If you work hard, And
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you find it. Shakespeare is absolutely beautiful. And it also
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teaches you how to speak eloquently. And it helps you
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understand the world. Science is just the understanding of the
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world that God made. It is fascinating from small to big.
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But it also gives you those skills in life to
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problem solve, come up with solutions to difficult problems. Mathematics,
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it's challenging. Yes, it's challenging. But if you have a
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student that perseveres, learning perseverance in your life, I think
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is a skill that every single student should have. And
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learning to follow steps one at a time. But again,
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we have to train ourselves to train our affections and
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the order of affections in such a way that we
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can find a joy in challenging things. Because if you
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can find a job where everything is perfect, like, good luck.
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Same thing with life. Life will have a lot of
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challenges your way. But if you can find joy in
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every subject and understand the skills that comes out of it,
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you truly will be an educated individual.
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And that's, again, like I said, if you want to
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go back to the classics, why they call them the classics,
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because this is what we're used to.
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Thousands of years.
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And, you know, a lot of our founders of our
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country were, you know, early education is really what you
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guys are doing. And so and, you know, there's nothing
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to say that what they're doing in the public schools
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is not the way to go because it works for
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a lot of students. Same thing with some of the
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charter schools and the magnet schools. There's something out there
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for everyone. And I think, again, kudos to Dr. Moore
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for being very supportive of that. He's so supportive of
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all of whatever it is a child in our community
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wants to do and what works best for them.
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So do you think that a.
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Family, one, if they weren't Christian or didn't have a denomination.
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Would they? It's more like, what do I say?
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Do families have to belong to a particular church or
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denomination to kind of fit in?
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No, so we are an interdenominational school. We have like
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tons of denominations represented at the school.
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Okay, cool.
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We also have a couple of families that I would
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say are unchurched, but they're real like families like that.
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They're really seeking out the virtue piece of school.
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They want the values and the virtues that we're offering.
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And it is our hope that through the experience of
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being in class, and we've already seen this happen on
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multiple occasions where the kids start learning a lot in
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Bible class and start praying at school and learning the
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catechisms and then there.
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Mom and Dad, can we go to church?
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And we've seen whole families, you know, come to belief
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in Jesus through coming to.
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Vero Classical School.
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So that's our ultimate hope in situations like that. But no,
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there's lots of denominations represented at school.
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Oh, I love that. I love that. Listen, we have
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because it is a smaller school, but you are comprehensive
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in all the things you do. Tell us about sports, arts,
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and some distinctives. that you guys have going on at
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the school? Sure.
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Our students have music, art, drama every single day as
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part of their electives. They also have PE every day.
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And then our students are taking, yes, PE and recess.
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Our students are running every single day. Our students start
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taking Latin starting in third grade. And then from a
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sports perspective, our girls are currently have a phenomenal volleyball
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season going on. So if you want to come out
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and cheer for our volleyball girls, we also have basketball, soccer,
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and flag, flag football. And then we also have a
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running club, which in the future will translate into our
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cross-country team. And then in the future, we'll be adding
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additional sports as well.
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That's amazing. So it's like, I mean, it really is.
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You've got everything there. You've got everything there. It's wonderful.
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Now tell me, Jameson, about this new campus, you guys.
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It's very exciting what you got going on.
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Yes, we're very excited. We own 53 acres out by
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58th and Oslo. There's one One block off of Oslo,
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So we're working on funding phase one, which will be
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18 classrooms, a library, a music room, drama room, art room,
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and then admin and a gym. So we could be
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able to host 350 kids on the campus.
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Wow.
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That's amazing. Now, when you move over there, what grades
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will you then... By then, you'll have eighth grade?
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So we're hoping that we'll be able to be in
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at some point next year.
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Wow.
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So I don't know if we'll be able to make
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it for right at the start of August, but at
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some point next year, we're hoping because we should be
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announcing groundbreaking very soon.
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We don't have a specific date, but we just met... Oh,
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am I allowed to say that?
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We had someone, a very generous donor who believes in
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the vision who offered a $ 2 million match.
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And so... Hopefully we'll be able to.
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Announce that soon and then follow that with a groundbreaking day.
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So if somebody wanted to invest, if somebody wanted to
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make a donation, is there a website?
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Is there something that they can go to?
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Yes, we've got bureauclassicalschool.org and a give page. And we're
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also always excited to host anybody who wants to come
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on a tour.
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We have a lot of tours pretty much weekly. Yeah,
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that's good.
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That's great. I love that.
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That VeroClassicalSchool.org and then go to the gift page.
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Yes. Okay.
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So one of the things I wanted to ask you about, because,
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you know, there's a vision of this school. And 20
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years from now, one of your students comes walking back
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to you.
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And I'm going to start with you, Jameson.
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What do you hope to see in that person that
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makes you think we did what we set out to do?
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This is a personal question for me since I have
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three kids who are going to be graduating by then.
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I would hope they're a person of integrity who has
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a really genuine relationship with Christ, who is a leader
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in their community and makes decisions for their family and
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for their community that are honoring of scripture and that
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they feel like they had a foundation of truth at
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Vero Classical School that they could firmly step on as
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they stepped into the rest of their life.
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I love that.
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I love that because it is, I mean, you're, I
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know somebody from St. Helens, a teacher there, Maria Morgan,
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you might have met her in the school system. She
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knows every single student she's ever had in kindergarten.
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It's amazing.
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And when they come back to her and they tell
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her the stories, I know that. So Scott, I ask
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you the same question. When you've got a student who
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comes back after graduating college, 20 years down the road,
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and what would you say we did, what we set
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out to do?
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I would echo a lot of the same things that
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Jameson just said in terms of their personal integrity, their
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walk with God. truly being an educated individual, both their
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heart and their mind. They can speak eloquently. They can
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have conversation. And I think too often the world looks
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at education as a me perspective of what am I
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going to get out of it? You know, pursuing wealth, power,
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you know, pleasure, fame. And instead we say service of
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God and man. I think that's what I want.
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Well, thank you so much. Thank you guys for being here.
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We are talking to the Vera Classical School. We have
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Jameson Kelly. You've got to watch the show. Scott Simpson,
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he's heading up the school. You guys, thank you so much.
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I'm so excited. We're going to be hearing more about
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you guys. And I want to hear when you were groundbreaking.
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I'll say it on the show. You guys be good
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out there.
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Be safe.
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We'll talk to you soon. See you here next week.
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Welcome to the Laurie Davis Show, where it's all about
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the amazing lifestyle on our Treasure Coast. And here's your
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host and realtor for life, Laurie Davis.
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Hello, hello, and welcome to the show. We're so excited
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to have you here today. Coming in, it's that time
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in Florida, it's October, and we haven't, knock on wood,
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had any Weather related other than the normal rain. But man,
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the rain that's been coming in, Cindy, is your street
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flooded over there?
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Well, it's kind of.
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But you know what?
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This is my thought about all of it. I'm just
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looking for myself on the thing here. This is my
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thought about it is I'd rather have the rain all
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day long than even bother with any hurricane names.
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Of course. Absolutely.
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Absolutely.
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It's 20 minutes and it's done.
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I know. Everybody now knows the word. It's just a cell.
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It's just like it's just going to come through and
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it's going to go. And it could be it could
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be sunny in 20 minutes.
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Right. You never know.
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You never know.
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Yeah.
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But the Laurie Davis show. I'm Laurie Davis, your realtor
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for life.
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The reason why I do this show is to tell
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people about what's going on around Vero Beach, because I
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think that this beautiful little microcosm of a city, a village,
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a town that we live in, which really lives more
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like that than a city. Of course, it's Indy River County.
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whole county is 167,000 people, which is a lot smaller
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than a lot of people's cities in the state of Florida,
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we put together these great little towns, Vero Beach. We've
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got unincorporated Vero.
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We've got Felsmere. We've got Sebastian.
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And people are choosing our area, India River County, Vero Beach,
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for lots of reasons. And one of them is what
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we've got going on in the education system. Here in
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Indian River County, we had Dr.
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Moore on.
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He's the superintendent of schools for Indian River County a
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couple of months ago and loved having him on. He's
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so supportive of all things that are going on in
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the community. And our guest today, what we're talking about
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is something that's very interesting. And they've started Vero Classical Schools. Now,
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before I get into all that, because there's so much
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to talk about, it's so exciting. And even before we
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started the show, all of the questions we were all
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talking about and like, oh, I didn't know it was that. Oh,
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I found out it was this. Oh, look at what
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we know now about what is it. There's just a
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lot of questions, but it's an amazing organization. And new
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to town, it's been in business. They've been teaching children
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for about four years. But let's start with thanking Citrus Grillhouse,
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our sponsor. They always provide us with something lovely to
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have to share on the show. Today is a beverage.
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They have their new fall cocktail menu, as you well know. Oh,
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I think we had the salted caramel espresso martini last week.
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Yeah, it was fabulous. You said you liked that.
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It was fabulous.
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Yeah, I sent Cindy home with it. She can't. She
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can't do it while she's working the board.
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Too many buttons.
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I know, too. Yes, exactly.
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Today, it's a white cranberry Cosmo, which is Belvedere vodka, Cointreau,
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white cranberry juice, and fresh lime.
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looks like it tastes good. Yes, it looks like water.
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citrus girl house. We love citrus girl house over at
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10 50 Easter Lily lane. Wonderful restaurant. If it's not fresh,
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they're not serving it. They are right there at Humiston park.
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can eat lunch or dinner there Mondays until Saturdays. It's
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better every day. And even if it rains out, you
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can still sit on the patio. But, you know, we're
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my friends and talk to Christy or Ivan or any
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beverage of the day.
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words classical education and think, OK, what exactly does that mean?
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people think, oh, is it music? Because of classical music,
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much better than I can.
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Scott Simpson, he's the head of the school, and Jameson Kelly,
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one of the founders of Vero Classical School.
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Thank you for having us.
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Thank you for having us.
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There we go.
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It's a delayed audience.
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What if this audience is sleeping? I don't know what's
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Jameson, as a founder, I wanted to start my first
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question with you, and that was, how did this whole
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If I'm being honest, I would say it probably started
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about 15 years ago when I was a senior in college.
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So I studied elementary education at Wheaton College in Illinois.
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grade at Covenant Classical School.
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Of Naperville in Naperville, Illinois.
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I have to say I was blown away by the curriculum,
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by the teachers, by the head of school, the training
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I received. I couldn't believe what the kids were capable
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of in first grade. So there was formal grammar training.
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They were able to write really well. They knew all
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the parts of speech. They were learning chronological history. And
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then another part of it was the teacher, the training
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wanted me to focus just as much on the development
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of the child's virtues and their heart just as much
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as the development of their mind.
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I have four boys, no, three boys, not four.
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I have one, so I know it feels like three.
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I know exactly what you're saying.
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I have three boys.
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and there was no option for that in our town.
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that for them. And so the Lord just put it
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on my heart and my husband's heart to start Vero
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Classical School. And now Christian classical education is available to
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lots of children instead of me just homeschooling mine classically.
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I love that.
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Because there is a Christian part of this, of this
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education there. Are all classical schools, do they have that
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Christian part of it?
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No, you actually could find classical charter schools all over
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the nation that don't have the Christian element. But then
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you will also find Christian classical schools in the private setting,
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where for us in particular, the Christian part is just
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as popular.
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Just as prominent as the classical part. They're hand in hand.
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We have, you know, scripture as the foundation of all
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truth at our school. And we weave the truth of
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God's word through all the subjects.
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I would, you know, I want to sit in. Yes,
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we'd love to have you. I think it would be
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really cool.
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what first graders are learning. I mean, and in the
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right environment. And I told you that my son went
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to St. Helens and they had, gosh, I think they
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had 30 kids, but You've got 30 kids that.
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Want to learn.
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And you're at all different levels of understanding and knowledge, right?
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them and they will learn. And it's, you know, it's
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amazing what you can get done.
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it's one of the paradigms of classical education, is re-enchanting
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the classroom, trying to really engage them with wonder and
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awe and preserving their love of learning for as long
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as possible. Because we really want kids to graduate from
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Bureau Classical School and want to be lifelong learners as
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opposed to, you know, drudgery of school or I don't
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like school anymore. We really want them to love and
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have a spark for learning.
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Scott, so tell us now, how did you end up?
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And so what what was it about the classical school
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that drew you to that?
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starting a new new school and I had met them
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a couple of times prior to that time. And I
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was approached a couple of times to consider because they
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were looking for ahead of school. And at first my
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answer was no, I'm enjoying where I am. I was
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enjoying the school I was working with. I felt like
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I was doing a great job as principal. And my
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original intention of meeting with Michael and Jamison was honestly
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just to help them out. So I've always been a
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proponent of choice, whether you send your kid public, private, charter, magnet, homeschool,
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parents need to do what they need to do is
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best for their child. And so I met with them,
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and I had about two pages of things, of things
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they needed to do to make sure the school was
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going to run well. Because you don't just start a school.
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I know. I was like, that's pretty ballsy.
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school is, multiply it by about 10 when you actually,
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especially if you sit in the principal's seat or a
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founder's seat. It's very, very complicated. So I sat with
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them to have a dinner and kind of, hey, here's
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everything that you need to do. Have you thought about this?
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Have you thought about this? And about two hours later,
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I realized that if they didn't already have the answer
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to it, they had thought about it. And the response was,
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that's why we need someone like you. But we understand
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this is the direction we can go. And then the
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more I dove very deeply into what classical education is,
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I felt that resonated with who I've always been, both
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as a teacher and as a leader. And even today,
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when I'm looking for teachers, there are classically minded teachers
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all over Indian River County, all over Florida, all over
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the world, where they're If they get a chance to
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come teach at a classical school, the adjective I hear
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the most is refreshing. This is refreshing to my soul.
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This is who I want to be as a teacher.
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And again, we'll go into more detail of classical education.
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a wonderful way to educate a child.
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This is year number four. So we opened as a K-4.
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seventh grade. And they will be the first graduating class
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of 2032. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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Yeah, I got to congratulate you. There we go.
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That audience, we needed some coffee in there.
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We're excited for our first graduating class.
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Well, they're having some of those citrus girl house drinks.
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So on to that, then our next question leads into Jameson.
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What makes a classical education different? If I walked into
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one of your classrooms, what would I notice?
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I think initially, not to say that this isn't happening
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in other classrooms and other settings, but our teachers have
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a real joy for what they're doing, a deep expertise
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of what they're teaching, and the passion that they feel
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translates to the children really well. They also, the quality
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of the curriculum that they're teaching is really high. We're
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teaching the science of spelling, which creates really good readers.
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thing all year long, so a deep love of something
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rather than kind of a bunch of different things all
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year long, just one.
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comes home talking about all the different stars and the
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constellations and this particular planet and his passion for it.
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I think, also work really well together. They feel a camaraderie.
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about them, faith, family, and then your job. And I
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think that that translates well to them. They also are
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very— they' re really focused, and I can't stress this enough, in
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a Christian classical school, they are really focused on who
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the child is.
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They're really— when they are— You don't have to do any
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kind of discipline because our school isn't full of like
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angel children.
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Like all children make mistakes.
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really after the heart of the child, not just behavioral management.
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really look for people that we would.
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on their own, and a love of learning that translates
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to the kids.
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You have to love kids, love learning, and love Jesus.
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looked up, if anybody watching this wants to look up
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classical education, it's really gone back to like reading, writing,
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and arithmetic, and science. You know, you're going to add
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in those things, technology, whatever. But it's the basics. Yes.
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It's really the basics.
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it's harkening back to– thousand years ago the way people
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learned in Greece and Rome. So a true liberal arts education,
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how to think, how to argue well, how to be
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persuasive without being divisive. And so it's.
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translates to elementary, middle, and high school. And it really
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lends itself to the natural development of a child. So
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in grammar school, there's a lot of collection of information, chants, songs,
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just building a foundation of knowledge. And then they step
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into logic school where they naturally want, I don't know
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if you've been around middle.
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it like that? And so it's meaning making.
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a bad argument and they can build a good argument.
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then rhetoric school, which we don't have yet, but it's
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kind of the capstone.
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They really focus on speaking and writing eloquently. So there's
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also a public speaking aspect that has been largely lost
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in today's society. So even in kindergarten, they have opportunities
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to speak before their class.
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Lots of memory work. It's not monotonous.
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students in a hope that they become citizens that think
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really well and communicate really well.
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Right. Scott, so then coming back to you, you've worked
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in the public school system for many, many years.
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of a child does well in this or can any
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child do well in this environment?
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does do well. I prefer having students when they have
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an opportunity to experience the entire range of Vero Classical
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School from kindergarten through 12th grade. We very much have
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conversations with our students that we truly do believe that
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every single subject is good, true and beautiful in itself
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and worth learning. There is a joy in learning science
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and there's a joy in learning mathematics. There's a joy
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in learning Shakespeare, but it also gives you skill. And
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we talk about, and when you say joy, it doesn't
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mean you're always smiling. Go out on a soccer field
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and no one's smiling. But at the end of the game,
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you say, how was that?
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find joy, but sometimes it takes energy to find joy.
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find joy in any subject. If you work hard, And
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you find it. Shakespeare is absolutely beautiful. And it also
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teaches you how to speak eloquently. And it helps you
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understand the world. Science is just the understanding of the
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world that God made. It is fascinating from small to big.
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problem solve, come up with solutions to difficult problems. Mathematics,
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it's challenging. Yes, it's challenging. But if you have a
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student that perseveres, learning perseverance in your life, I think
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is a skill that every single student should have. And
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learning to follow steps one at a time. But again,
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we have to train ourselves to train our affections and
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the order of affections in such a way that we
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can find a joy in challenging things. Because if you
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can find a job where everything is perfect, like, good luck.
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challenges your way. But if you can find joy in
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every subject and understand the skills that comes out of it,
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you truly will be an educated individual.
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go back to the classics, why they call them the classics,
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because this is what we're used to.
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country were, you know, early education is really what you
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guys are doing. And so and, you know, there's nothing
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to say that what they're doing in the public schools
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is not the way to go because it works for
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a lot of students. Same thing with some of the
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charter schools and the magnet schools. There's something out there
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for everyone. And I think, again, kudos to Dr. Moore
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for being very supportive of that. He's so supportive of
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all of whatever it is a child in our community
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wants to do and what works best for them.
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Family, one, if they weren't Christian or didn't have a denomination.
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Would they? It's more like, what do I say?
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Do families have to belong to a particular church or
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denomination to kind of fit in?
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tons of denominations represented at the school.
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say are unchurched, but they're real like families like that.
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They're really seeking out the virtue piece of school.
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They want the values and the virtues that we're offering.
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being in class, and we've already seen this happen on
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multiple occasions where the kids start learning a lot in
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Bible class and start praying at school and learning the
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catechisms and then there.
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Mom and Dad, can we go to church?
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in Jesus through coming to.
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Vero Classical School.
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there's lots of denominations represented at school.
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to take a break for a commercial. That's how we
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The show taping is so fast.
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All of a sudden you're sitting here looking at each other, go,
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that's it.
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We're done. And then everybody goes, can I come back?
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We had so much fun. So we just try to
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have a little fun here on the Laurie Davis show.
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So Scott Simpsons, we want to talk to you about,
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because it is a smaller school, but you are comprehensive
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in all the things you do. Tell us about sports, arts,
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and some distinctives. that you guys have going on at
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the school? Sure.
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Our students have music, art, drama every single day as
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part of their electives. They also have PE every day.
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And then our students are taking, yes, PE and recess.
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Our students are running every single day. Our students start
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taking Latin starting in third grade. And then from a
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sports perspective, our girls are currently have a phenomenal volleyball
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season going on. So if you want to come out
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and cheer for our volleyball girls, we also have basketball, soccer,
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and flag, flag football. And then we also have a
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running club, which in the future will translate into our
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cross-country team. And then in the future, we'll be adding
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additional sports as well.
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That's amazing. So it's like, I mean, it really is.
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You've got everything there. You've got everything there. It's wonderful.
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Now tell me, Jameson, about this new campus, you guys.
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It's very exciting what you got going on.
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Yes, we're very excited. We own 53 acres out by
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58th and Oslo. There's one One block off of Oslo,
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so we wouldn't be congestion on the traffic. We wanted
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to be careful about traffic.
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So we're working on funding phase one, which will be
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18 classrooms, a library, a music room, drama room, art room,
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and then admin and a gym. So we could be
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able to host 350 kids on the campus.
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Wow.
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That's amazing. Now, when you move over there, what grades
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will you then... By then, you'll have eighth grade?
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So we're hoping that we'll be able to be in
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at some point next year.
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Wow.
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So I don't know if we'll be able to make
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it for right at the start of August, but at
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some point next year, we're hoping because we should be
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announcing groundbreaking very soon.
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We don't have a specific date, but we just met... Oh,
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am I allowed to say that?
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We had someone, a very generous donor who believes in
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the vision who offered a $ 2 million match.
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And so... Hopefully we'll be able to.
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Announce that soon and then follow that with a groundbreaking day.
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So if somebody wanted to invest, if somebody wanted to
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make a donation, is there a website?
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Is there something that they can go to?
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Yes, we've got bureauclassicalschool.org and a give page. And we're
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also always excited to host anybody who wants to come
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on a tour.
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We have a lot of tours pretty much weekly. Yeah,
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that's good.
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That's great. I love that.
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That VeroClassicalSchool.org and then go to the gift page.
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Yes. Okay.
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So one of the things I wanted to ask you about, because,
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you know, there's a vision of this school. And 20
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years from now, one of your students comes walking back
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to you.
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And I'm going to start with you, Jameson.
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What do you hope to see in that person that
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makes you think we did what we set out to do?
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This is a personal question for me since I have
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three kids who are going to be graduating by then.
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I would hope they're a person of integrity who has
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a really genuine relationship with Christ, who is a leader
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in their community and makes decisions for their family and
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for their community that are honoring of scripture and that
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they feel like they had a foundation of truth at
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Vero Classical School that they could firmly step on as
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they stepped into the rest of their life.
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I love that.
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I love that because it is, I mean, you're, I
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know somebody from St. Helens, a teacher there, Maria Morgan,
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you might have met her in the school system. She
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knows every single student she's ever had in kindergarten.
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It's amazing.
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And when they come back to her and they tell
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her the stories, I know that. So Scott, I ask
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you the same question. When you've got a student who
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comes back after graduating college, 20 years down the road,
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and what would you say we did, what we set
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out to do?
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I would echo a lot of the same things that
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Jameson just said in terms of their personal integrity, their
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walk with God. truly being an educated individual, both their
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heart and their mind. They can speak eloquently. They can
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have conversation. And I think too often the world looks
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at education as a me perspective of what am I
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going to get out of it? You know, pursuing wealth, power,
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you know, pleasure, fame. And instead we say service of
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God and man. I think that's what I want.
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Well, thank you so much. Thank you guys for being here.
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We are talking to the Vera Classical School. We have
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Jameson Kelly. You've got to watch the show. Scott Simpson,
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he's heading up the school. You guys, thank you so much.
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I'm so excited. We're going to be hearing more about
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you guys. And I want to hear when you were groundbreaking.
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I'll say it on the show. You guys be good
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out there.
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Be safe.
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We'll talk to you soon. See you here next week.