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Hi, my name is Chris Burris. I'm a longevity expert in the chief scientist at a lab focused
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on a longevity molecule. My primary focus is to help people live longer and better lives
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with science. Make sure to subscribe and share so you and your friends can live longer
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and better well, actually, so you and your friends can live beyond the norms.
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Hi and welcome to the next episode of the live beyond the norms, health and longevity podcast.
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Everyone's flying to Panama and spending tens of thousands of dollars on stem cell treatments.
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People like Tony Robbins and Joe Rogan are raving about the positive results with stem cells,
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but the cost is just too high. What if the key to your own stem cell repair is not tens of
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thousands of dollars and a trip to Panama, which I recommend, by the way, my wife is from Panama.
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Panama is absolutely amazing. But what if the answer is a simple set of pills that are a
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fraction of the cost? Our next guest, Ryan Riley, is here to save us tons of money and teach us
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about the importance of stem cells for health and longevity. A little bit about Ryan. Ryan is the
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CEO of Stimrigin and a seasoned entrepreneur with a background in digital innovation and high-growth
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leadership. Formerly, the founder and CEO of Cell Core Bio Sciences, he led the company to nearly
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50 million in revenue and a $200 million acquisition in 2022. Now, he is focused on advancing
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stem cell science through science-backed supplementation with a mission to enhance the body's natural
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repair system and redefine the future of health, longevity and human performance. Hopefully,
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we can help him with that mission in this interview today. Ryan, thank you so much for joining us.
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Oh, absolutely, Chris. Thank you so much for having me on. This is going to be a joy.
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Before we jump into your areas, areas of expertise, I want to go further back. I like to go much
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further back. What was it like growing up a little Ryan? Where did you grow up? What were your
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parents like? And if there was some event or someone you could pinpoint as the reason you would
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ultimately become a health and longevity disruptor, what or who would that be? So that's a great
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question. I wasn't expecting it. So I grew up in a little tiny town called the Ridley, California.
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Ridley, California is nestled up against the foothills of the Sierra Nevada's just south of
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Fresno and just north of Viselia in the Central Valley. My dad actually was a school teacher.
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He graduated from Ridley High, went into the service, finished at college, came back to
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Ridley and taught for 33 years. So my dad is one of those guys that is just like, let's build
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boots. We'll stay here. And so I grew up in the same room. I slept in the same room my entire
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life until I'd left home after graduating high school. This little tiny town, it's an agribusiness
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town. So I grew up in the stone fruit, peaches, plums, nectarines. There was a family friend who
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had a packing shed that my dad would actually work at in the summer so that we could go there as
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kids. I started working in a packing shed at 10 and 11 just early on. And that was just
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our life is living in Ridley, watching my dad coach track and football and baseball and softball
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and growing up. And I'm the baby of five. I grew up with a nickname that most people outside
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of Ridley don't know. In fact, there are people in Ridley that I think don't even know my real name.
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And so I grew up in this like little tiny town that I absolutely love. The person early on who
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was a major influence in my life was a teacher, Mike Newkirk. He became my brother and I are about
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14 months apart. And so Jared was really active in sports and water polo and volleyball. And those
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were things I always enjoyed. But because I had this little brother syndrome, I didn't want to do
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that. So I took a different path and I went into speech and debate. And Mike was my debate coach.
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And he literally challenged me in every way, shape, or form to in the form of communication and speech
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and speech preparation and debate. And regardless of like it wasn't an it wasn't an impact of longevity
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there. And I'll talk about that one in just a bit. But the influence that he had on helping me develop
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the ability to communicate ideas and thoughts in a way that could allow me to allow me to have an
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impact on people has been that's probably been the greatest skill I learned early on. I'm I actually
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grew up with dyslexia and and 80 ADD, which wasn't even known back then. Like it was called spring
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fever, right? And so I had to like being able to communicate and being able to drive. I realized
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early on that those were superpowers that I actually had because I could think of things differently
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and faster and and I could really and as as new researchers come out even in the last several
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years about dys dyslexia, I understand now why my brain worked the way it did back in high school
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and and in school and why it is a superpower that I have. So there's some interesting things that
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kind of go along along with that. But early on, the the person who really became the impactful side
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of of longevity and health and wellness, I has to be my mom. My mom currently lives with us.
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She's 87 years old. She has grandma skills and and there's a big research out on grandma skills
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that if you learn how to knit or crochet and you do these skills on a daily basis, your cognitive
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response will be maintained through through your older years. And could you have something to do
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and you have something to to accomplish? And my mom, my mom had and she had early on set
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leukemia as a child and she battled through that and she had ciliacs like so she always constantly
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struggled with health issues that I and but she never showed it like she's the most positive,
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amazing individual. She was a school teacher with my dad. She went back to teaching school when
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I was in third grade and but the model that she gave me of positive outcome, positive life,
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regardless of your circumstances and outliving all of the challenges and struggles that she had
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really became impactful to me because it gave me that ability to just have the like regardless
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of what you're struggling with regardless of your challenge. I think longevity,
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there's a lot longevity is a lot more mental than physical I personally believe. I think there's
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I think there's a good balance there but I think it leans heavily on the mental side because it has
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to be with your outlook, has to be with your positivity, has to be with the things that you're
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driving towards have to have an impact on who you are and how you see yourself. And if you can't
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visualize yourself in a positive environment 20, 50 years from now, why would you live to that?
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And I see my mom, it's probably set the greatest example of that. She's an incredible woman.
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To this 87 years old, she does not take any medication except stammergen.
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And it's so funny how she got on stammergen was incredible. Christian Drupal, who is our founder
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and chief science officer, he was at our house and we had a company retreat at my place in Idaho and
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she was kind of hovering along the she was just a little wallflower listening to everything. And
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then when everybody left, she came up to me and she's just like four foot nothing little old like
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first grade teacher, right? And she would come up to she came up to me and she's like, how come
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I'm not on stammergen? And I literally looked I literally looked at her and I was like, mom,
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I don't want you to live to be 140. Like I love you. But like come on. And so she kind of laughed
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at that. And she's on stammergen and it was interesting because two weeks later, she actually got
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the I showed her out of get on our friends and family and she got on and she's ordered it. And so
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she buys her own stammergen and she takes it. And two weeks later, she came to me after she started
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taking it. She's like, Ryan, I have to tell you something. I have been feeling a pain in my chest
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that concerned me, but I didn't want to tell anybody about it. I didn't I this was something that
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I didn't want to cause concern. And so you know, a lot of people hold that inside. They don't
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they don't share it because they don't want it be a bother, especially in my mom's position where
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she lives with us. And she's like, after two weeks of being on stammergen, that pain has gone.
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And I was like, crap, you are you are going to live to be 140. So so there's an impact there. And
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and you know, the love that I have for her, like that that little bit of of of hit of who she is.
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And the fact that stammergen had that little bit of an effect on her is is amazing. So yeah,
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87 years old. She doesn't take anything, but stammergen right now.
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And that has some parallels with some studies you're doing with heart conditions, right? So
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so I'm sure we'll get into that. Interesting. You know, so often you follow your big brother's path
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and you were like, I'm not following that path. So Jared, you go that direction. I'm going
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somewhere else. Did you go to debates? Like in high school, were you at the debate meet?
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I went to one and I left with such a headache. I never went back and I went into a thinking,
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like, I think I'm smart. And I definitely like to argue. So let me let me go into this. And
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I was not prepared for the experience really. Yeah, formal debate is formal debate is intense.
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So I did formal debate. I did Lincoln Douglas debate. I did what was called Congress,
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student congress where you actually were you had bills that you had to argue for and against
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and and get them ratified and sway other people into that conversation. My favorite thing was
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impromptu speaking. And impromptu speaking was really, really cool because what happened was
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you would walk into a room and they would give you a slip of paper with a topic on it. And you'd
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have two minutes to prepare an eight minutes speech and give it in class right then right there.
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And so it was one of the greatest experiences for me personally because it helped me organize
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my thoughts. It helped me be able to think quickly. And because I had dyslexia, I was able to do
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that really, really fast. Memorization skills for me have always been 100%. Memorization was,
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I would in fact, I remember sitting in class when you had to read out loud and I would count people
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to find out how many people would and then I would count paragraphs and I would memorize
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that paragraph. So when it came to me, I could read that paragraph out loud and not feel like I
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was a moron or an idiot. And it was it was that impact that that kind of drove like all of that
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together gave me. I think the skill set to be able to be pretty good. I was pretty good at it.
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Did you have you ever done improv like comedy improv? Yeah, I did drama. I was Danny Zuko in our
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high school production. Like I remember, yeah, I did. We did all that was, but that was my whole track
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was driving that which was really, really fun. And you didn't share your nickname?
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I didn't. No, it was, it was my nickname. So I grew up, I had really, really bad buck teeth.
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Like I had, I was in braces for like six years. And now people are in braces now for like nine
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months. I was like, we were, we were guinea pigs 50 years ago. You know what I mean? And so my
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nickname was beaver. In fact, when I graduated high school, they actually, they actually
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said Ryan Beaver Riley because they were concerned that people wouldn't know who I was.
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So yeah, well, it was beaver. I grew up beaver. Mine when I was younger was boomer. So just to share.
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So you grow up, right? Parents are teachers. And so probably had intellectual conversations all
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the time. Like all sorts of good stuff going on. You're the theater kid, right? What in some sense,
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right? The debate isn't necessarily theater in speech, not necessarily, but what, so what are
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you planning on going into in college? Like what are you shooting for? You know, what's interesting
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about that is I went into college. So I went and served a two year, like after school, I found,
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I floundered around. I went to a couple of different junior colleges in California. And I wasn't
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just, I wasn't finding myself. And I had a moment where I realized that I needed to figure myself
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out. I need to figure out who I was in the direction that I was going. And I actually had an
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opportunity to serve a two year mission for for my church. Now now I didn't go anywhere crazy,
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like Brazil or like I didn't go anywhere. I went to Pennsylvania. Like there, there you go. I,
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it was, but it was an incredible experience because I had the opportunity to learn what service
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and serving others and being, for getting about yourself for two years and just being out there
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to be in service of others really had an impact on my life. And so I came back from my mission.
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I, my wife and I, like we wrote each other, like I knew I met her before. We wrote each other for
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the two years I was gone. When I got back from my mission, like three days later, we are engaged.
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We were married a month and a half later and we've been married for over 30 years now.
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But I went into school. I got into school and the first thing my wife and I bought
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went into debt to buy was a computer. And I've always, my dad had a, had a computer. In fact,
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I have an old RadioShack TR-80 color computer too that was like plugged into our TV. I still have it
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from my dad. And that was my first computer. And I, I loved technology. I loved computers. And
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we bought a computer. I got on the internet. And this was in 90, 95, 96. So I was on the course of
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doing philosophy and political science. I fell in love with the internet and I actually dropped out
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of school, got a job in the Bay Area and started my career as my first job was at K&TV News
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Channel 11 as the webmaster. And then six months later, nine months later, I went to work for a
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company called 8x8 and I was doing everything that everything in a browser. I was building support
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infrastructure. I was building e-commerce back then, an early stage e-commerce. I was doing
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everything. And so my, literally, my career has been in a browser. My, my entire, my entire career.
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Even, even, even now doing business in today's environment, it's still all online. It's still
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all in a browser. And so I have that, I have a unique experience to have been early stage internet
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and have, have come through the entire life cycle of the internet to today. And so I've,
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everything I've done has been in a browser. So I saw an interview you did decentralized
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health podcast and there was one quote in it that you talked about finding your wife and finding
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a wife a hundred times. I think it is what I quote. Yeah. So my, a mentor of mine told me the secret
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success in marriage is to find somebody that's a thousand times better than you and then convince her
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daily that you're worth it. And, and it's the, and it's the convincing her daily that I'm worth it.
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It's, it's, I have to constantly remember that and that the beauty of this is that if you do it
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right, she feels that you're a thousand times better than her and she's convincing me daily that
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she's worth it. And so, and it's, it's work. Um, we've been married, we have, we have five kids,
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we've been married over 30 years. Same as you grew up, right? So you said you had, did you have
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five siblings or four siblings, five total? So I, I was the youngest of five and now I have five
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kids. Yeah. Okay. So, so there's, and, and that wasn't planned. We have four boys, we have four
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boys that are ages 26 to 20. Three of those four boys are currently married. One of them is
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serving a mission in El Salvador. He comes home this year, which is really exciting. Um, and then I
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have a 11 year old little girl. So there's an eight year difference between Dalin who's 20 and
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Hattie who turns 12 this year. And that little girl rocked, I mean, she rocked a world like it was,
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she was hard. She was like, she messed us up, man. Um, she wasn't expected. She, in fact, in fact,
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for my wife had an IUD and an ablation surgery. So I did the math. I mean, it's like a,
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a point zero, one eight percent chance of that little girl coming into the world or point zero,
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zero, one eight percent chance. And, and she did and she's incredible. We have to work daily
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at it to convince each other that we're worth it. And that's, I think, one of the reasons why we've
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been successful in our marriage for 30 years. Another thing in that interview is you mentioned that
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and you're already kind of touched on 80, maybe HD, but at least ADD and the selection are super
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powers. My son has both and is probably a smidge on the spectrum with how, how we struggle to relate
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with people. Um, what message, right, having gone through the experience, actually at a time,
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what, one of the things that you described is this, this, um, impromptu speech, right, where you
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had a couple of minutes with no internet to, to come up with a, you know, a six minute talk or
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an eight minute talk, but it, whatever, whatever that was. Like, I think it's important to point out
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that because today's people are going, oh, yeah, give me that much time. I could, yeah, I could
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chat GPT here. Exactly. That wasn't a time when you just had to have pull stuff like, and if you
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didn't know much about it, you're like pulling parallel topics and trying to draw them together.
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What messaging would you give to yourself or say in, in my case, my son about his 80 HD in dyslexia?
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So it, it interesting question because my son Connor, he struggled with 80, 80 HD early on. Like,
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in first grade, we had a teacher come to us and say, I think we need to talk. Um, and we saw it.
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And Connor's one of those kids that just is full of love and life, but just we knew school was
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going to be his biggest challenge. And I remember, I remember this, this, this, this moment where
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Connor was in middle of high school. He was just, maybe it was early high school. He was just
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done. He was so frustrated, so challenged in every, and he was just done. It's one of those moments
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where as a father, like, you've got to dig deep to figure out what you're going to do to support
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this kid because you have nothing and he was done. And I, and goes back to my mom, I was walking,
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I went upstairs because I needed to just take a break. I didn't want frustration. I didn't want,
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I didn't want this to escalate. So I took a break and I was, went upstairs and I had a thought
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come to me that, to, to, to look at your scrapbook. And I was like, dude, I haven't went to my
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scrapbook in years. My mom kept everything. So I, I actually, and she gave us all of our scrapbooks.
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We still have, I pulled the scrapbook out and I started flipping through pictures and I started
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flipping through the scrapbook. And in the middle of that scrapbook was a Manila envelope that was
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three-hole punched in. And I was like, what's this? And I opened it up and I pulled out every
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detention note, every report card, every slip of paper of behavioral concerns. Like every single
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thing that I, like, my mom kept it all. And I was, and I just, I broke down at that moment.
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I broke down because I realized that Connor is me in a different world and in different environment
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where, and, and I took that down there and I said, Connor, look at this. And I sat down, I went
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through it with him and I said, hey, you see how this says a B? I said, look closely at that.
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Because these were old carbon copy, carbon printed report cards that came in the mail. I said,
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look closely at this. Do you notice how it's been changed? That was an F and I changed it to a B.
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We didn't have, we didn't have power school back then. Like I've changed my grade so I didn't
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get in trouble. That's how bad it was. I was like, but look at this detention slip, detention slip,
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behavioral notice. Look at the notes on this. Has problems completing tasks,
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talkative in school. Doesn't complete homework. All of these things. And I was like, Connor,
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do you see am I, have I been like, am I any different than you? And he looks at me and he's just
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in tears. And I was like, it's going to be okay. You just have to get through it today.
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We'll figure it out and you'll figure it out and you'll be stronger from it because you do.
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But I'm telling you right now that whatever your environment is and whatever you're doing
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today is a challenge, but it's going to be a strength to you in the future. And I think that kids,
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I think that kids with, with, with dyslexia, with challenges, especially boys, I think and being
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a dad of four boys, I've seen it where the environment that they're in today does not support
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them the way it should. The school is not designed for the boy for boys. It's not, they're not
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creating leaders. They're not standing these men, these, these young men up as leaders and
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the opportunity to help them influence each other in ways that supports them. It's not design
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that way. And so we tried to foster as much of that as possible at home, but I think that just
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the advice that I would give parents, your, your son's greatest advocate. Nobody cares about your son
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more than you. And, and understand that like Connor today is married. He's serving in the military.
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He has a son on the way. In fact, I just became a, a, a grandpa for the very first time last
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this weekend. Congratulations. I know it's, it is, it's pretty cool. But like success isn't, success
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is relative. Success isn't a, isn't a stake in the ground that you can shoot for success. There
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is successful individuals throughout all areas of life that if you can, if you're a good person,
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if you support your wife and if you love your family and if you can drive to like if you have
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that opportunity to affect change around you, you're a good person and success is relative.
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I've been fortunate enough to be blessed to be put in situations where I can serve and support
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others. And I have that opportunity to do so and I don't take that lightly. But you can be
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successful like my parents were schoolteachers. I slept in the same bedroom with, and shared it with
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my other two brothers, most my life. You know, it's like there's success is relative. And I think
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success, the beauty about what success can be is especially when you're working with somebody that
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is, is challenged with ADHD and, and dyslexia. In today's environment, those are problems and we
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need to fix you. When they're your superpower and you didn't embrace them to be able to identify
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how do you become more of who you are by embracing what you have? Thank you for sharing that. And
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one thing that pops up, right, because you're talking about your very parallel experience,
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was the system better than, right? I mean, you probably were paddled, right? Like, because
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paddling happened in my school. I don't know if that was that a better system is now. And then
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the system fundamentally different, but like just throw in devices where, where there is an escape
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from the pain, right, the struggle where I can just throw myself into social media and start
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swiping. And then I've got instant gratification. Like, that's clearly not good. I don't have any
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doubts about that. But, you know, is there a better system? And, you know, I don't want to spend
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too much on this because I want to kind of hop into health and wellness here. But I think this is
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part of health and wellness. I really do because I believe that I believe connection is one of the most
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important longevity tools we have is the ability to connect it, be connected. I believe that
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dads today, if you think about, if you think about the history over the last 75 years, right? I'm
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50, I'm 52, I'm turning 53. So, if you look at the last 75 years, my father,
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came, was, would, would be considered a boomer. Like, the, the mentality of the boomer generation
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was your 18 get out of the house. Like, fortunately, that wasn't the picture of the thought that my
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dad had and I had an incredibly loving father and mom. So, I had a great example of what a good
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parent should be. And so, now that I see my son, my oldest son, Braden, dude, I'm going to get
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emotional on this. Sorry. Now that I see my oldest son, Braden, who's had his first child and I watch
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him and I ask myself, did I do enough to be the dad, the example for him? Did I make enough
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connection with him so that he can make that connection with his little girl? You know what I mean?
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And then I sit back and I watch him and and I see who he is and I'm like, he's going to be fine.
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Sorry, I'm going to get emotional because like, seriously, this just happened like less than a
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week ago and that little girl is freaking amazing. But I watched my son and I sit there and I was like,
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yeah, I think I did. And I think that's one of the most important things that we can do is build
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connection with our kids. Like, we've lost in the US. I've traveled all over the world. I've
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lived in India for about nine months. I love Mexico. I love, I travel all over the world and you
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know the one thing that I find in common with people that live long years is they have multi-generational
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families. Yep. Yep. In the house. And in the house. And that boomer mentality that was our parents
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was your 18 get out of the house. It's like, fucking why? Why? Do you know what? And look,
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there's a lot of conspiracies we can talk about. Well, that creates taxation. Like, that was the moment,
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that was the shift that allowed somebody to have to go work and pay and tax and like, there's a huge,
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there's a lot of things that you can talk about that. But really what it did is it put ourselves in
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a situation where the parents that are becoming parents today don't necessarily have the example
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of parenthood that I had growing up, which I think is one of the biggest challenges in health and
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longevity that we have. My good example, I was talking with an individual and he's like, you guys
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are trying to live to like, you're doing everything you can so you can live longer. He's like, I just
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want to die. He's been through divorce. He's been through things. He's had challenges in his life.
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It struggles and he's like, I don't know that I want to be here anymore. Why do you guys want to
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live longer? The greatest thing you can do in order to support longevity and health is mental
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and build connections. I love the fact I was sitting in a conference and there was a small conference
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that they did a pass they had out of these cards and you sat down at your table and there's these
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cards and it was an icebreaker card. It's like your name, your hobbies, what do you do when you're
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and one of the questions was, what is the single greatest compliment you get most often?
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And dude, without hesitation, I said, Dad, I have four boys who are 22 or young parents who
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are adults who still call me Dad, who still want to be hang out with me. In fact, my third son,
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Davis, Davis is the type of kid that like you couldn't tell that kid to do anything. If you told
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him how to do something, he'd do it a different way just to prove you wrong. But he's incredibly
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talented at accomplishing what he wants to do. And he was going to school, young married,
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like he was bare married just a little over a year and he came to me and he's like, Dad, I feel
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like I'm missing out on the opportunity to learn from you. He's like, can I work with you? Is there
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anything that I can do to be a part of what you're doing? And I was like, yeah, so I put him to work
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and I didn't and I haven't paid him. He's been working for me eight months and I haven't paid him
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because he just wants to be there and he wants to be a part of it and he's learning what
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what supply chain is and learning what project management and he's learning and he'll get paid.
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It's kind of the family joke that I don't pay any of my kids. But he'll get like, there's the
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opportunity and for the fact that my kids want to be called, want to still call me Dad and want
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to be a part of that. That's what longevity is. That's what true life span becomes. Yeah, I want
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and because of that, I want to be as healthy as possible so that I can live as long as possible
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with that support and environment that my wife and I have built. Man, that's amazing. And we
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could end the podcast here, but we have stuff to cover. We have a lot more to do. I mean, sorry.
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Well, and I'm going to do I'm going to do a shameless plug because because this kind of fits. I
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have been inspired in this concept and this is one of the reasons why I'm so passionate about it.
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I have been inspired to identify. I've always wanted to write leadership books. I want it. I love
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dude. I grew up reading Steve Narcovey. I grew up reading, you know, Benjamin Franklin's the
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the art of habits and like, I love leadership books. I have good friends that have written books
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in and then Dr. Benjamin Hardy, who's a phenomenal author, has it comes out like, I don't want to
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compete with him. And so what I did, and I took a step back and I said, how can I how can I
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influence a younger at a younger level, the power of leadership? And so I actually, I'm writing
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a book series called the books books for boys. And these are leadership books in the form of
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in the form of story. And it takes and it's funny because there's four boys and a girl in this
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team, which is my kids. And they all have personalities of my kids in the so and they go through
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these adventures in their little town that that I grew up in basically, they go through these
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adventures and there's leadership principles that are taught. Each book has a leadership principle.
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Each chapter emphasizes that leadership principle. And then there's a I've built a online
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platform that allows these kids after they read the chapter of the book to go online and to
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to have offline experiences and to chat with these characters in the books. And I've worked
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really hard to keep it safe and secure so they can chat with these characters in the books and
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the characters in the books will give them challenges that they can do offline to become better
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leaders. And the parents have the ability to be mentors to these children as they're going through
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these leadership and they're designed for nine to 12 year olds. And the first ones first ones
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went through has gone I've written three right now. First ones gone through editing. They're all
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all of them are written. We're going through editing and production. Hopefully they'll come out
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in May. But I'm really excited about the opportunity to lean in to hopefully creating a connection
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because the idea is that like one of the things I love doing with my boys was I would read the books
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that they were supposed to read in school. And I would have conversations about what they were
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reading so that we could talk and just create connection. That's a value. That's a tool. It's not
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the only tool but it's a tool that parents can have. If dads are struggling on how to be a dad,
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it's create connection by doing something together and reading and having conversation and thought
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is a way to stimulate those conversations with those connections and and the offline challenges
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that are part of the the online experience are going to be really fun. So just the same as plug.
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we're here to talk about STEM cells. We're here to talk about STEM region. You're the CEO of STEM
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region. Actually, when I first had a conversation with Christian Drapo, he was actually on my
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summit, the uncovering the secrets of longevity summit. You were not in the picture at that time,
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so how did you get connected with Christian? So I was, I saw Christian, he had 10 minutes on
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stage at a conference that I was at and it was after we exited about a year after we exited
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cell core. And in that 10 minutes, I don't know if it was divine. I believe it was. I knew that I
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had to work with him. I knew that every that he that that was the next opportunity for me.
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And so I did everything I could to to prove myself to him. I'm an investor in this company.
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I worked for the first nine months to just prove myself. And then in the beginning of 24, he
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gave me the incredible honor to to be CEO of STEM region. When you think back to that, okay,
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brief 10 minutes. What first of what was the conference? I think you kind of offline mentioned
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mastermind, maybe describe that a little bit. And is there anything in particular? Was it the whole
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package or was there a couple of key points that really resonated with you to like, okay, this is
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this is a big deal. I don't know that I can pinpoint it. Specifically, it was, it was just this
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this incredible overwhelming feeling that he was the next person that I needed to support.
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We talked we talked. There's a video that I absolutely love. And I think everybody should see
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it. It's about the first follower. It's about this guy who's at a concert on the side of a hill
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and he's dancing. He's this crazy lone dude all out there by himself. And the message is about
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how important that first follower is. Somebody that can come to him, that can champion him,
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that can be embraced by him. And then because of that, somebody else is like, oh, hey, they're not
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I don't have to be that person alone like. And then all of a sudden, two and three and four and
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five and 10 and 20. And then you have a movement and everybody is up dancing. I love being that
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first follower. I love supporting an individual that has incredible opportunity in front of them.
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And I can I believe that I have the gift and talent to be able to see that in people. And I saw
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in Christian and I immediately came home and I told my team. I said, I got it. I know what we're
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doing for the next five years. And they were like, what? And I was and they met Christian and
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it's been it's not easy like growing and scaling a business and supporting that that that
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lone dude that's out dancing on the side of the hill by himself is not easy. But it's incredible
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rewarding. It's and you have the opportunity to impact so many lives, especially with the
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technology that Christian has and understanding how disease and longevity and and and health
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challenges are tied to your repair process and your repair system in your body. And how stem cells
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play that role has been incredible. And the work that we're doing, I believe, has the potential
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to really truly change the way people look at at disease and decline. And I think there's some
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important things here. So I let's yeah, let's get into it. So going into that talk, what kind of
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awareness of stem cells did you have? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. I was yes. For me, health was,
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I was on my own personal health journey and it was tied to gut and gut health because that's
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what cell core was. I didn't have hardly any I knew what stem cells were kind of, but I thought I
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did. So no, it wasn't and so it wasn't even about the topic. It wasn't it was about him. It was about
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Christian. It was about the feeling that I had when I heard him speak and the opportunity that was
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presented in my in in my mind's eye of where this where this could go and who he was.
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Anytime I'm learning something new and this is like you're you're about to kind of pour the next
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five years of your life into it, there's like things that you got to go where you say, okay,
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maybe does this make sense? Did you have where there are a couple of things that you had to go
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like check some boxes to make sure things were I don't know on the up and up. I know Christian,
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so that wasn't much of a debate, but but but like what did you come off and they're like, I got
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to double check these things. Having dyslexia and ADHD is interesting because with ADHD, you can go
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broad on a lot of topics, but but when you focus in on one, you go deep. And so after here in
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Christian, I went deep on that in in ways that like he was, I think he's still impressed that I was
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able to learn as much as I learned I read his book multiple times, like listen, I went deep on who
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he was. And then with dyslexia gives you the incredible ability to look at things dyslexia, you
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could take an idea and a concept and you could turn it upside down. It's like a ribic scoop. That
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idea becomes a ribic scoop to me and I can flip it and turn it and move it in many different ways
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until it becomes a hole and and and then continue to look at it. The only downside is I can't spell
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with anything. So chat GPT has unlocked my ability to like write, which is fun. So I went deep in
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that in that realm of who he was and I immediately saw the impact in the studies and his name across
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multiple scientific papers across multiple studies that had been done over the course of his time
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and have just been truly honored and blessed to be a part of this in in a small way, which is
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exciting. So let's talk about it. So what is the technology and why is it so important?
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In a nutshell and this is this is I think this is the greatest thing that Christian did in about
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early on in the late 90s and he he came across an ingredient from Klamath Lake called AFA and he
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was brought in to do scientific research and study the the mechanism of actions and the effects
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of the AFA on the body. And as he was going through this this this research project, he started
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seeing all these outlining cases of things that he couldn't explain. And in most time when you're
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doing research there's always going to be outliers. There's going to be one to two, three things that
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you just can't really explain and you just set them aside as as as notes as and and and just
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continue to move on with the core of your research. But when those outliers start to compound in
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two hundreds and two hundreds and three hundreds cases, you have to stop and take a moment to say,
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okay, what's truly happening here? And these are outliers of things that that at that time in 2001
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from a medical outlook were not possible. In fact, those same things are still happening today as
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people are using these these products and these ingredients. So he started doing he started digging
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into the research and he started reading everything he could and he came across an article. I think
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it was the one of the first articles that was written about the effects of stem cells in the body.
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And the article just discussed how they were able to identify stem cells migrating and becoming
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a heart cell. And that triggered the whole concept. And then and then he found another article
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as he dug deeper that stem cells could actually be identified and tagged becoming a brain cell
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in in mice and a a liver cell. And so in his mind, he's like, if we if stem cells can become
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heart brain or liver, then they are the repair system of the body. Stem cells are at the heart
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of the repair system of the body. And he's like literally in 2001, he's like, we just found the
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cure to disease. And it's taken him 26 years, 25, 26 years to be able to have a platform where
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people are finally beginning to listen. And the whole process, the whole concept is a process that he
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has identified called endogenous stem cell mobilization. And he's been doing his had the work
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that he's been doing on botanicals throughout the world. And he's identified many many different
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botanicals and he's narrowed it down to three that have a have a tremendous effect on mobilizing
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stem cells from your own bone marrow into your body. So there's a difference when people think of
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stem cells, they think of doing an injection, right? So they they go and they do a localized
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injection and where they do a systemic injection. But it's external stem cells being applied into
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an area where hopefully they'll have an absorption rate greater than 17%. So if you think about it,
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they do an injection into a shoulder for a pitcher in major week baseball. They're doing about
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100 million stem cells injected into that area. There's about a 17% absorption rate. So you're
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getting about 17 million stem cells that actually take effect and and have the ability to have an
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impact and and and it works. These these athletes, the individuals that like in the knee and the
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hip in these areas of joint where people have struggles and pains and challenges, it works. They
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there's people that see a benefit to stem cell injections. Well, that's an outside source coming in.
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The interesting thing with with what the work that Christian has been doing is he's identified how
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these three different botanicals have an effect of releasing your own stem cells into the body
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and the the the conservative estimate by taking two capsules of stem origin release. You can
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increase 10 million new stem cells in circulation in your in your body within the next two to three
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hours. So if you do that twice a day for 30 days, you've just added 600 million stem cells in
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circulation on the constant and like constantly evolving, constantly working. Then the beauty of
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this is that it is known by the time you reach age 30, you have a 90% reduction in circulating stem
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cells and it can just continues to to decline from there. And that's and if you think about it,
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anybody will tell you I'm 53. Anybody will tell you man, I don't have the body that I used to.
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Like when you hit 30, that's when you start filling the pains and and your body doesn't recover
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the way that it used to and and everybody like if you start putting that correlation between
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the number of circulating stem cells and your body's ability to recover after an activity,
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you can immediately draw that connection. And that's exactly what Christian did. He started drawing
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the connection and and the beauty of this is there's a lot of other people doing the research on
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this as well. It is well known fact that within medical data and the research papers that are out
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there that any age related disease, any age related disease, whether it's congestive heart failure,
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whether it's erectile of the function, any age related disease, the person who has that disease
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has 50% less stem cells in circulation than the person of the same age that's healthy. There's a
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direct correlation. We're actually in the process of working with some professional and and universities,
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professional athletes and some universities to actually show a direct correlation between
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an athlete that steps onto the field, two athletes step onto the field. One of them and their
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makeup body, everything is exactly the same. One of them thrives, one of them has just every like
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everything works. The other is prone to injury. Now this is a conversation. This is a question that
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has plagued sports therapists and and player development for years. Why does one person excel?
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The other person is prone to injury. Well, we're in the process of identifying that story that
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that the person who has is prone to injury has less stem cells in circulation. The person that
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doesn't. There's a direct correlation between the number of stem cells in circulation and your
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body's ability to repair and recover. So if you think of it from a concept of decline as you get
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older, your body constantly is in a state of repair. You get a new heart. I mean, I think they said
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you get a new heart every 30 years. So if you think of your first heart for the first 30 and then
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your second heart from 30 to 60, when does when do when do we start having health problems?
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Like 16 beyond. And that's because your body doesn't have the ability to continue to recover
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and repair. And if it can't repair, those needed because it doesn't have the it doesn't have
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the circulating tools to be able to do so, then your body reach is drawn into a state of decline.
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Now, the interesting thing about longevity and this, all of these all like red light, there's
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people that do red light therapy. There's people that do cryotherapy. There's people like
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hyperbaric chambers. There's all of these things that are designed to help your body recover
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and repair cold plunging. Everything has an effect and and on the circulating stem cells in your
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body. So that if you can stack stem regen release, which with two capsules, you get 10 million
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new stem cells with other modalities of repair and recovery, you're only providing the tools
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necessary for your body to recover in a way that it was designed to do. And that's the entire
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that's the premise and concept of of stem regen is to be able to support your body's natural
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ability to repair. That's it. Like I'm and the cool thing about that is if we can do that,
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if we can truly support the body's ability to repair what will happen. And that's the question
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we're asking. Now, I'm here to tell you from a FDA like regulations and claims across the board,
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all we do is support the body's natural ability to repair. That's what we do. That's the mechanism
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action. We can it's well documented. We know exactly what our product does. The question that
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we're asking is if we can truly do that. What will happen? And that's where that's where the
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beauty comes at. That's where the magic happens. I know in my conversation with Christian really
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kind of fascinating stuff about different herbs and botanicals that released stem cells and how
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he understood that they weren't the same mechanism right because there's a different timeline on when
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they're actually released. And then actually incorporating or finding, I think it was really kind
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of discovering that there were some that would actually push these stem cells into tissue,
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right? I don't know if you didn't mention that and I know that there's multiple products now,
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is that still incorporated into the main product? Yeah, absolutely. And that's the beauty about
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what the product does is there's three main ingredients that have an effect of releasing stem cells
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in the body. And basically the mechanism that that's occurred is these three ingredients mimic
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the signal of repair that you're that that that happens in cell to cell communication.
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When there is a damaged tissue, there is a signal that goes out saying, I need help. That signal
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is inflammation. It's that's part of the the process of repair. Information is a tool that your
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body uses to be able to identify that there is an area that needs help. Like we talk about inflammation
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and systemic inflammation is such a bad thing. And yes, systemic inflammation is because what's
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happening. And the reason why you have to be able to manage that, you have so much inflammation
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in your body that those stem cells don't know where to go. There's so much noise. Think about
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static on an old TV or on a radio. When when static would come in, when interference would come in,
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that wasn't a good signal. And that cell to cell communication is so vital because what happens is
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when there's when there is a need of repair, a mechanism occurs where a signal is produced so that
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stem cells are released from the bone marrow into the bloodstream and can travel to that signal
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and accomplish repair. The three main ingredients in our product actually mimic that signal,
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which is why they're getting released. And so we can easily identify. Now the other products in
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our ingredient help with the mobilization of those stem cells through and into the tissue. And so
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that's the beauty of what Christian has done. He's been able to document and identify all of the
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effects of endogenous stem cell mobilization and how they play have a role in playing to support
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the body's natural repair system. So I remember when I interviewed him, I walked away because I didn't
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think of this at the time. We're mobilizing stem cells out of red bone marrow, right? Typically,
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that's where it's coming from. Red bone marrow shrinks with age. Is there any concern that we're
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actually kind of expediting the shrinkage of bone marrow? Are we pulling out? Because obviously,
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if we were, and I don't think we are, but I want to get your opinion, if we were, that would
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maybe not be the best long term plan, great short term, but not long term. And I think maybe even
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Christian hadn't thought about that when I sent the email to him at the time. But anyway,
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what are your thoughts? No, there's absolutely. And that's a question that we get all the time.
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Well, are we going to run out? There is zero scientific evidence that your body will ever get to
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the point where it doesn't produce any more stem cells. If it does, you would die. That's like,
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and that's a known factor. But if you think about it, what are the things that actually create
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stem cell mobilization naturally without taking any supplement or anything, people that work out?
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Well, look at these athletes that are just that are driven to exercise or to work out. They're
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constantly reducing high volumes of stem cells in circulation and body. There's no evidence in any
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of the scientific literature that states that your body will run out of stem cells.
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The beauty about what happens, and there's actually proof that stem cells have the ability
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to be stored and make their way back into the bone cell where they can be able to repopulate.
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And there was a study that was done that was a bone marrow that was completely dry depleted.
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And they took a single stem cell and they put it into the bone marrow. And within time,
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that bone marrow was completely rejuvenated. So your body has, that's the beauty of this concept,
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is it is all we're doing is supporting that natural ability, that repair system of the body.
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And we're just providing the tools at a greater rate so that your body can be able to handle it.
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And those that aren't the excess tools and you can, the excess stem cells will actually make
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their way back into the bone marrow to repopulate that bone marrow so that they can be ready to be
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released again. It's interesting when the story of the mechanism, the mechanism is so core
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to how the body functions, right? And then you're, so you probably get this, well, what about the
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liver? And you're like, well, the stem cells help the liver? Yes, well, but what about the
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heart or what about the muscle? And I bump into that with my product, product as well.
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Is there any place you think that this might not be a value? Is there anything you're like,
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nah, I wouldn't waste my time on, I don't know, this particular concern?
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You know, I think the best way to do this is through some anecdotal observations that we've
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had some from some of our practitioners, one of my, one of our practitioners is that he's a
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podiatrist. So he deals injuries from the knee down. So a lot of neuropathy, a lot of, a lot of
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open wounds that just don't heal. And as he has incorporated the full protocol into his practice,
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it's interesting the way he approaches this with his patients because he says, hey, look,
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this is something that's new. It has, I've seen it have tremendous effect on, on, on the people
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that I'm working with. But the interesting thing about this is that your body knows what needs
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to be repaired. So while we're going to work, he has, he has actually seen a reversal of neuropathy
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in the legs because he puts people on the product. But at the same time, he had this one gal who
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couldn't, she, her shoulders were so bad, she couldn't do anything. And she came in and she was
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like, I saw her two months before this. And she was just down and devastated. She just looked like
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she couldn't do anything. She was in so much pain. I put her on the product two months later. She
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came in and she was a different person. And she was like, yeah, I just, I, I, I mowed, it was
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fourth of July weekend. I mowed the lawn and she couldn't, she had full control. So the, the story
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behind this is that your body knows what it needs. Your body knows where repair is necessary.
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And it is going to prioritize and go for the highest points needed first and then prioritize
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down. So when he, when he gives people the product, he's like, look, it, I, I believe that it will
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have an effect in this area. But I also know that you will come back and it will have, it will
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affect you systemically because your body knows how to repair. And that's two capsules a day.
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Two capsules twice. Yeah, two capsules a day. If you're, you can push it a little bit more with
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two capsules twice a day. There's even evidence the, the, the, when we go into doing a clinical trial
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or one of our studies, we have an on, we have a couple ongoing studies right now. One is on
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congestive heart failure. The other is on, on Parkinson's. And the protocol that we do with
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Stimergen release on that is two capsules three times a day. We keep it straight and forward. It's
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and, and the outcomes that we're seeing through these studies are just incredible. That's awesome.
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So congestive heart failure or disease and Parkinson's. That's, that's pretty amazing.
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You want to talk about, yeah, I know you have, when I first met with Christian, it was one
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product. Now you're at three, I think, talk about kind of what are, what are the differences there
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and then we can get into our wrap up questions. Yeah, sure. Absolutely. So the, the, the beauty of
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the whole, this whole system is we're supporting the, the entire process of stem cell mobilization,
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a endogenous stem cell mobilization and endogenous repair. So if you think about it, we've already
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talked about the release of stem cells in the body. So that we have three products. One is called
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release, which release stem cells, the other is signal and then mobilize. And the entire process
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is release releases the stem cells in your body. Signal reduces the noise in the body. If that
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systemic, we talked a little bit about the cell, the cell communication and how that, how that
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has an effect on the, the mobilization of stem cells. Well, if there's systemic inflammation
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in your body, then that signaling, we get disruptive. So as we signal reduces systemic
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inflammation, it reduces the body's noise that's going on in the system and allows you to be able to
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allow the stem cells to know where they're needed most. Mobilize is a full of,
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nanoconies and another number of different ingredients that supports your capularies and your
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microcapularies. If you look at a stem cell, stem cells like 30 microns in size and your microcapularies
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are five microns, like how do you shove a 30 micron, like stem cell through into a five micron
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so that it can actually break the blood barrier and get into the tissues? Well, that's what
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mobilize does. It actually supports the, the health and the elasticity of those, of those capularies
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so that it can be able to expand and grow so that stem cells can be able to flow properly
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through the system. So release signal reduces the noise so signal we can occur and mobilize
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which allows the mobilization of those stem cells. And those are the three main products.
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Excellent. Well, before we get to our wrap up questions, anything, any summary, anything,
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maybe we didn't touch on that you'd like to hit. No, man, we covered a lot and sorry that
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there was a lot of personal in there. You get me talking about my family and me. I think the
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biggest thing is that I truly believe, I truly, truly believe that the work that Christian
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Drupal is doing, if people will just take an opportunity to step back, clear minds like really
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look into it, that this has the ability to change the way we look at medicine. It has the
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opportunity to, to, there's so much that this concept of endogenous stem cell repair and endogenous
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stem cell mobilization can occur, can do for the human body if we just give it a chance. I've seen
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it in my personal life. I've seen it with my mom. I've seen it many, many others in the reports
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and the research that we're doing shows that this does have a tremendous effect on your ability to
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recover and repair the body systemically. Excellent. All right, time for our wrap-up questions.
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Ryan, do you have a target age that you want to live to? You know, I don't. Honestly, I, I don't,
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I just want to be able to be actively engaged in the life of my family and friends as long as
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possible. How long do you think humans can live? Well, there's the centenials. There's, there's,
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absolutely evidence that, you know, I think the, the, the one interview that I saw the gentleman
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live to be at 138, 140, there are, that you, your body has a tremendous capacity to, to, to live
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and, and wants to live. I believe that I believe that we're barely scratching the surface on what
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our potential is. And as we support, naturally support our body's ability to, to, to recover,
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to repair it and, and just doing simple modalities on, and creating a regular cadence of your own
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protocols of what you do. I, I love, I have a power plate at home. I love, I love being able to do
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vibration therapy, um, sauna, cold plunge, um, infrared, like, red light therapy. All of these
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things together will have an effect on you. And, and you can tell, you can tell an immediate impact
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that the, the, these modalities that are centered around longevity and the 12 harmonics of,
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of longevity are real and they have an effect. So I would love to see the day when this becomes
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more mainstream. And I think it's getting there, um, so that people can truly see the, the,
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the benefit from supporting your body's natural ability to repair. So you're 52, 53, right? Right,
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right on the cuss. You say potentially 140. So we're talking somewhere between the,
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there and then I always like to kind of push is the number 100 is the number. So my wife and I
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just started living our second 50. So let's 100 years old for us. We're like it. And, and, and for
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us, I'm telling you, man, that the first 50 was hard. The second 50 is amazing. So we're, we're
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really excited about about what, what's in front of us. I'm only three years old. Exactly.
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Three, three of the next 50. I love it. Um, what are two to three protocols, habits, mindsets,
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let's call them shortcuts because everybody likes shortcuts to longevity and a long health span
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that you would share. So my, my personal routine is I wake, I'm, I'm an early to bed early to rise.
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I, 10 o'clock, bedtime, five o'clock, I'm up. Um, sometimes four, four to five, I'm up. And,
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and that routine is, is pretty, pretty standard. My own personal study and prayer, my own personal
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meditation, I, I begin every day that way. And then I go and I sit in the sauna for 20 minutes
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with the red light therapy, sauna. From there, I cold plunge. And then I go and, and there's a
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number of different things from there. I'll, I'll stand on a vibration plate and then I'll
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dead hang. I believe for, for, for everybody like dead hanging and grip strength is one of the
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most important things you could do. If you can, if you can dead hang for a minute, you're in great
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shape. And it's interesting to see what happens is you, as you begin the process of hanging,
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of dead hanging and, and you go from a minute to a minute and a half. And then you get to the
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point where you can do a lock, a lock off and hang and your body has tremendous. So that's when
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you're hanging this way. Okay. Yeah. And, and a lock off and you're hanging rigid strength and,
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and you move into that dead hang in different ways. And then you, you're, you're, you're bringing
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your feet parallel like in a hanging position, you do as much as you can. It's amazing how much
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that strengthens your shoulders, how it stretches your body. So those are, those are my favorite
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things to do. The other, the other main, the other thing that I do is, is, is community I have,
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I'm engaged in active communities and friendships and love and family constantly. Excellent.
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What are one or two things that you think people get absolutely wrong regarding longevity and
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a long health span? So it, it, interesting you say that there was a, and I, and I don't know who
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this was and I, I don't want to offend anybody. But there was a con, there was a conference that,
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that came out last year that was called don't die. Yeah. First of all, that's a whole negative
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approach to longevity. The idea of don't die, you cannot, you could walk cross street, get hit
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by a bus and that has nothing to do with whether you did red light in the morning or not, right? So
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in, in my, that, that idea of that fear of death to me is, is the wrong reason to do this.
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Fear of death to me is that negative approach to why you're doing this. You have to have a reason to
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live and to live the fullest in your life. That's what longevity is about. It's not about don't die.
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It's about living more. Excellent. Brian, how can people contact you? I have a couple of different,
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online platforms. Fifthhammer.com is my business concept and, and, and, and philanthropy and funding
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side of things. It's, it's so Fifthhammer.com. You can go to Stembridge N. Yeah, spelled out. You
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can go to Stembridge N. .co. I'm Ryan Atte. I'm on like Instagram and, and LinkedIn. You'll,
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I'm, I'm pretty easy to find. If you, if you do a search for Ryan Riley from Idaho,
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I'm all over the place. You'll get me. Excellent. And what in the near future are you excited about?
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Being a grandpa for the very first time. I mean, that's, I honestly, that's the biggest
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impact right now is, I'm, but I'm excited about, I'm excited about the future. I mean, I,
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there's so much going on in this world where people are so afraid of the future, whether it's
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political, economical, there's, there's a lot happening in this world at this time.
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I'm excited for the good that we can bring to the table because we have a tremendous capacity
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for good. And I'm excited for where the people that lean into that side of the future
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are really the ones that are going to have longevity. Excellent. Well, you can find him at
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Fifthhammer. Spell that out. .com. Stembridge N. .co. Just search Ryan Riley from Idaho and you'll
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find him. Ryan, thank you so much for joining us today. Thank you for having me, Chris. This
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was been amazing. I hope you enjoyed this episode of the Live Beyond the Norms podcast. Make
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