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Every founder-led advisory firm knows the feeling: business comes in waves. Referrals and word-of-mouth are lovely — until the pipeline goes quiet for three months and nobody can explain why. In this episode, Mark McIntosh, founder of RevGrow, joins the show to break down why that unpredictability isn't a mystery to solve, it's a system to build. A CPA by training, Mark spent years watching talented advisors get referred business only when it happened to occur to someone else — because their expertise "lived in someone else's memory." His answer was to build a repeatable playbook: get ruthlessly clear on who you help and who refers you, then use LinkedIn and thought leadership to stay visible with that specific group, consistently, over months and years rather than days. The conversation digs into what separates this from the "bullhorn" marketing most people associate with LinkedIn — the cold pitches and connect-and-sell tactics that erode trust instead of building it. Instead, Mark and the host unpack a longer-arc mindset: treating visibility like a compounding asset rather than a 30-day campaign, so that when a prospect's need finally surfaces, you're already the obvious call. There's a sharp, practical discussion of the 80/20 rule as it applies to referral partners — why a handful of relationships typically drive the majority of business, and what it actually takes to earn and keep that position. Mark shares how his own firm operates on this model, including the deceptively simple habits (an immediate thank-you, a follow-up on how an introduction went) that keep referral partners confident enough to keep referring. If you've ever wondered why your best relationships don't reliably turn into business, or you're trying to move your firm off the referral rollercoaster, this episode offers a clear-eyed, commercially grounded way to think about it — plus a live example of someone who, in the host's words, genuinely eats his own dog food. Three Key Takeaways: • Referrals are a memory problem, not a trust problem. Good work alone doesn't generate consistent referrals — your referral partners have to be able to instantly connect your name to a specific problem. Without deliberate positioning, even strong relationships stay dormant until something jogs someone's memory. • Visibility is a long-term asset, not a short-term campaign. Marketing campaigns get measured in weeks; staying top of mind with referral partners has to be measured in months or years. Founders who quit after "posting for two weeks and not getting 10 deals" are applying a campaign mindset to a compounding process. • Trust compounds when you're the one who follows up. The advisors who get referred repeatedly aren't the loudest — they're the ones who close the loop: an immediate thank-you, a proactive update on how an introduction went, and genuine care about the referral partner's whole business, not just the transaction in front of them. This episode's lesson — that thought leadership pays off through consistency, not campaigns — is exactly what Peter, Bill Sherman, and Naren Aryal codify in The Thought Leadership Handbook. If Mark's approach to building lasting visibility resonated, this book gives you the frameworks to do the same with your own expertise. Out now. Get your copy: • Amazon • Barnes & Noble • Bookshop.org • Amplify Publishing • Apple Books
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