Ocean's Eleven

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Mike.
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Do you think we need one more?
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Do you think we need one more?
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Okay, we'll get one more.
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Andy Warson is here on the podcast for Oceans Eleven.
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Coming up next on least important things.
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Do it already.
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Doors closely back to the active studio.
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Oh shit.
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11.
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You're either in or you're out.
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Welcome to a podcast called Least Important Things A Show About Movies, Friendship, and Finding Meaning in the Most Important of the Least Important Things.
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I'm your host, Luke Ferris.
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In today's episode, yes, it is Oceans 11, one of my favorite movies of all time.
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25th anniversary this year.
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And of course, with me today are my rusty and linus, Mike Wynne and Andy Wilson.
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Welcome, gentlemen.
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I think in this context, I'm definitely not rusty.
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I said the same thing.
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I think Andy is definitely rusty, but we had to it worked well with the line on the cold open.
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I am I am wearing the shirt.
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You are wearing the shirt.
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I'm wearing a shirt.
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I thought you would be eating some like chips and cheese or something.
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That's what we did.
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That would have been a great prop to bring in.
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It's a really disgusting burger.
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Gentlemen, how are you?
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Good.
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I'm I'm actually getting over being sick, so I'm a little tired.
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Yeah, you it's okay.
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The energy will get up as we get talk about this movie.
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You're here in the studio.
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We're first time in the studio, right?
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First time in the studio, second time in the house.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, it was Christmas last time I was here.
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Yeah, we did record, but we did hadn't set up the studio yet.
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So it's exciting.
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Andy, the first time in the studio.
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Welcome back.
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This is great.
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Last time I was here, you're bagging a hundred things, tons of leaves.
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Yeah, I know.
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It's crazy.
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Time flies, man.
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I'm really excited to talk about this movie.
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Same here.
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Mike, you too.
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Yes.
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Uh Mike, you did bring something.
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So can you share with uh the listeners who are either watching on YouTube or or listening to I have a bourbon guy?
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Um so I sent him a message.
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I said, Hey, I need um a bourbon that kind of um elicits heist vibes.
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Yeah, heist.
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Right, yeah.
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So uh this is what my bourbon guy, his name's Claude, sent back to me.
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Um, he said, This is Ocean's 11 in a bottle.
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Here's the case it's understood, it's understated on purpose.
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No flashy label, no screaming proof, just a clean, classic bottle that doesn't need to announce itself because it knows something you don't.
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That's heist energy.
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Small batch, heat cycled barrels, obsessive quality control.
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This bourbon is methodical.
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Every detail is thought through and advan is thought through in advance.
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Uh, tasty notes of caramel toasted oak and a hint of fruit, like a pre-heist dinner at a nice restaurant.
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That's very nice.
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Gentle spice mid-pallate.
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Things are getting tense.
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Yeah.
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Long, warm, satisfying finish.
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The crew walks away clean.
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It's the bourbon you pour while reviewing the blueprints, sophisticated without being showy, confident without being loud.
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The guy in the corner who hasn't said anything yet, but everyone's watching him.
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And this is Mitcher's US one small batch.
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Wow.
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Thank you, Mike.
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This is very fitting.
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Um, this is the extent of all of the prep I've done for this episode, which is a lot, which is a lot more, frankly.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah, you're really bringing it to the table.
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I know you're overcoming illness, but you're you're here, you're in the studio, bringing the heat.
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Uh, should we place our orders?
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Yeah, what do you guys?
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How do you guys want it?
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What do you want?
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I want a whiskey.
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Okay.
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I I want a whiskey and a whiskey.
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Okay, got it.
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Well, friends, well, Mike's pouring that.
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Um, I am suited up, by the way, for those listening.
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Uh I just felt like it was appropriate.
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You guys came over.
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I wanted to bring bring the energy.
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I love a good suit.
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And this movie reminds me that when you're wearing a suit, it just it just is different.
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And suits come in all different sizes, shapes, and colors, and colors, yes.
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Yeah, at one point I think Brad Pitt is wearing a suit with the like the lapel is so big that it's over the collar of the actual jacket.
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I was like, I need to pull that out for a wedding this summer, maybe.
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Thank you, Mike.
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I don't know if that will show up in post at all, but cheers.
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Cheers to the heist.
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To the heist.
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To Terry Benedict.
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Oh, wait, no, no, no, no.
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To Benedict Arnold.
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There we go.
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Mike, did you excuse me, did you steal the bourbon?
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It's only appropriate.
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Yeah, I figured you did you heisted it.
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You swiped it from the counter.
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Gentlemen, I can neither confirm nor denote.
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That's very good.
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Right.
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True con man.
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Well, gentlemen, before we start getting into this conversation where it's it's going to be loaded and jam-packed, uh, thank you for being here.
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Billy Tim Denim is one of the best.
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Denim like a gene.
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Find him at Nevada Used Cars.
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He's got some lovely hands.
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Is that the name on the dealership?
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So last night I was going frame by frame and trying to see if they actually had the name of the dealership.
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They had like used, they had like advertisements, and then I saw Nevada behind in the background of Billy Tim.
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There's it just says Nevada.
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So I'm I'm assuming it was like Nevada's used car.
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Okay.
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That was my best effort besides texting Steven Soderbergh.
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If you want to buy a car and then have such a soft handshake.
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Soft handshake.
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Love the hands.
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Love the hands.
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The perfect spot for you.
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All right, friends.
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It's onto the back of the VHS or DVD.
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This film came out in both both mediums.
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Andy, you were telling me that you guys grew up watching this on the show.
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I first saw it on DVD.
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Correct.
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My parents owned it.
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And I had both.
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We had a VHS and a DVD.
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Our VHS of Oceans 11, my brother and I, we had an old TV VHS in our in our room growing up, which is pretty cool.
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And so I would play the VHS of Oceans 11 before I would go to school.
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I would just play the final high sequence.
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So we played that at VHS nonstop.
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Is this movie early enough to where there would be some like HD ROMs out there?
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I don't know.
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That's a good question.
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Maybe I feel like this was right at the edge where maybe it was not what were the other Laserdisc?
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Laserdisc, this is way past for Laserdisc.
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This is right when the DVD conversion starts to happen.
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So this would have been probably a year or two old.
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I think the first DVD I ever watched, Panic Room, Jody Foster, Stewart.
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What a poll.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's big.
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That's big.
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Uh well, speaking of the back of the VHS DVD, Mike, will you read the back of the VHS?
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And to listeners, this is it.
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If you're at a Blockbuster video, a family video, and it's 2001, 2002, and you're looking for a fun Friday night movie with your family, and you're walking around, oh, George Clooney, Brad Pitt, wow, Matt Damon, Julia Roberts.
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This is gonna be a great movie.
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You flip it around, this is what you would read.
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The plan is set.
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The rules are clear.
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If all goes right for Danny Ocean's grifters, the payoff is$150 million divided by 11.
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You do the math.
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Ocean's 11 brings the filmmaking talent of Academy War Academy Award-winning director Steven Soderbergh and enough star power to light up the Las Vegas strip to this classy caper.
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George Culini plays Danny, defying the odds in a high-tech, split second heist of three Vegas casinos, all owned by a stone cold magnet, Andy Garcia, who is dating Danny's ex-wife, Julia Roberts.
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A fixer, Brad Pitt, a pickpocket, Matt Damon, a blackjack dealer, Bernie Mack, a film, uh, a flim flammer, Carl Reiner.
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Very specific.
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They got me.
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That one got me.
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I had me at Flim Flammer.
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Uh, and others and others in well-defined roles are with Danny in his gambit.
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Are you in or out?
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Jackpot, baby.
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Yeah, Mike Wynn still got it.
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Flim Flaming.
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That was good.
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The Flim Flam.
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You've done a lot of cold reads.
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That was pretty good.
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And Flim Flam has not been on uh the back of the VHS.
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I tell you what, that's like peak back of the VHS comic.
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I think listeners believe I read those cold.
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I believe so.
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You're a very intelligent man.
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You would also find the back of that VHS that was written by Ted Griffin.
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Of course, this is actually a remake, it's based on a 1960s movie, uh starring the Rat Pack.
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Uh it is is an interesting movie.
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I don't know if you have you guys seen the original.
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No.
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It's uh I like to watch it around New Year's because it's set the heist is set on New Year's Eve, which is interesting.
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So there's there's a few things that are connected to this one, but outside of Danny Ocean and just the idea that they're robbing something, they're robbing uh casinos in Las Vegas.
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There's a uh it's a lot of it's different, and it's it's actually better.
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This the 60 movie ends, there's an interesting ending, like a very abrupt, interesting ending.
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Worth a watch if you like want to it's kind of that's kind of true of movies of that era, yeah.
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This genre, like the sting right has kind of that same stuff, yeah.
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Very abrupt at the end.
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It it has a little bit of that sting vibe to it.
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Not not police sting, no, thank you for the thing.
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No, no, no, not I'll be watching you.
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Uh no, the the movie.
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You will be watching this movie, yes, you will coming soon to a DVD.
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Yes.
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Uh the cinematography is by Peter Andrews.
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Do you guys know who Peter Peter Andrews is?
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No chance.
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It's a pseudonym for Steven Soderbergh.
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He he actually shoots all of his movies, which is uh if you look at his like his history and past, he actually likes to make his movies really quick.
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Did he start out as a cinematographer?
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I don't know that, but he he uh he shot this movie, which is pretty amazing because it's a big budget, huge movie.
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But he loves to shoot like and be on the camera.
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So if you watch the behind the scenes, he's like up on the camera, just like actually holding it, which is really unique for a director.
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But I think it adds to the the the whole look and feel of this movie.
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You kind of get it because he's a more of a au tour director, indie director.
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He was an Oscar-winning director.
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And his interviews, he was like, I just wanted to make a fun movie, and it's and it's like, Great, thank you, thank you for your talents.
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This movie was produced by Jerry uh Weintrubb, who is in the movie, he is one of the high rollers.
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He talks to Saul and he says, I wouldn't get into Terry Benedict for too much money.
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Uh, he worked with Sinatra.
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Most of like most of the connections in Las Vegas to make the movie were through him.
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Like they they he like convinced everyone to like be able to shoot into the Bellagio.
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He's he's like this legendary character.
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What were obviously the Bellagio is one of the big casinos and scene in scenery in the movie, but what were the other two casinos?
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Mirage and the MC.
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Jim Grand.
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But they shot mainly in the Bellagio.
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They closed down one of the I don't I don't know the casino terminology, but one of the pits or like one of the areas was closed down.
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They closed down the valet at one point for that final shot at the end of the movie where Tess goes out to get Danny, which is pretty crazy to like shut down a casino.
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So this old school like Hollywood guy had these connections.
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Uh, he actually appears in the second and third movie as well.
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He's got some interesting characters, but uh George Clooney called him the Pope of Vegas.
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Uh, and it really he's like the reason why this movie got made and why this series continues, which is really cool.
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All right, Mike.
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Oh, he's the reason why it continues.
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Yes, got it.
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You're like, he's the one to reason.
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Uh this is starring, of course, George Clooney as Danny Ocean, Brad Pitt as Rusty Ryan, Matt Damon as Linus Caldwell, Julia Roberts as Tess Ocean, Andy Garcia as Terry Benedict, Don Cheadle as Basher Tar, Bernie Mack as Frank Catton, Casey Affleck, Oscar winner, did see that coming.
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This movie is like has aged so well, it's crazy.
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Uh, as Virgil Malloy, Scott Kahn as Turk Malloy, Carl Reiner as Saul Bloom, and Elliot Gold as Ruben Tishkoff.
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What is stands out to you about this cast and these group of characters?
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Obviously, like the main big ones, but is is there any like surprises when you rewatched it this time?
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I just I miss Bernie Mack.
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He every time I watch him in this movie or any of the series, he's it's he's so electric.
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We we lost him way too young.
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You know, Bernie, you know, Bernie Mack.
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Never mind.
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Okay, I was gonna say Carl Reiner for me is one of my favorites, R.I.P.
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But yeah, his performance in this one is is second to none, both in the con and just as as the acting.
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As the actor, yeah.
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And he was really the the elder statesman in the behind the scenes they talk about.
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Obviously, they hung out a lot, like they gambled, and it was a real hangout dudes dudes vibe, but they would just talk to Carl Reiner and ask him old stories of Hollywood, and you get you feel that in the characters as well.
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There's so much respect for for Saul as a character.
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Yeah, this this cast is incredible.
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I think just Don Cheadle, Matt Damon.
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Obviously, when we we see Matt Damon, we see Matt Damon, and he had just come off of winning an Oscar.
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So he he wasn't a nobody, but he wasn't this was right before Born.
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Wasn't yeah, he wasn't Matt Damon.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It was so it's like it's really interesting that if they had somebody different that was like a hot young actor, they actually thought about Mark Wahlberg in that role, which I think would be interesting, but I think that it just wouldn't I couldn't see Mark Wahlberg being that playing that like kind of nerdy younger brother energy with the glasses on when he's faking it.
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Yeah, I just wouldn't work.
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It just wouldn't have worked.
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I just love Matt.
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I think this is it's it's hard to say this, but I think this is my favorite role for him out of anything.
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Wow, wow, hot takes.
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There's gonna be more.
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All right, let's move on to facts that you can fact check.
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I'm not gonna do the work for you, Mike.
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How quickly are we have we lost you?
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Was that it?
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When I was breaking down that Steven Soderberg shot it, maybe that was it.
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Okay, hang on, Mike, we'll get there.
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Okay, facts that you can fact check.
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Uh Oceans 11 opened on December 7th, 2001.
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That weekend you could have seen Harry Potter behind enemy lines and spy game.
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Really amazing year of cinema.
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I recently was on the Stuck on Sorna podcast.
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It'll be probably coming out later this summer with Daniel talking about 2001 as a movie year.
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Space Odyssey?
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Not Space Odyssey.
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Um, JP3 came out that year, but incredible.
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Lord of the Rings, yeah, claw mark.
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Lord of the Rings also came out.
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It was just actually, I was surprised when we were talking about 2001.
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I was like, this is an amazing movie year, and to have Oceans 11 at the end of the year is just a treat.
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Uh$85 million budget, which that's a lot of money to a lot of people.
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That's a that's for uh for Oceans 12s fans.
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That's a quote.
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Um, but think about this the salary of the cast, like it on paper, they would have cost quadruple the amount.
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So are you telling me that this movie more almost doubled their budget with the heist that they pulled off?
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That's right.
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Yes, yeah, that's right.
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I mean, what what an incredible success for the studio.
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Yeah, and it made 450 million.
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So it it it this movie another 150 right on top of it.
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I know, I know it doubled the heist dollars.
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Obviously, Clooney Pitt, Damon, and Julia Roberts most importantly took pay cuts uh to really make this movie happen.
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Um there's a story, and I don't know, there's a lot of lore around these movies because there's very much a prank culture and there's all these tall tales.
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Oceans 12, they all hung out and lived at George's house on Lake Como.
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Like there's there's this lore that they were.
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I don't I don't know how much I can believe George Clooney and Brad Pitt.
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But I want to believe it.
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But the the one that I believe the one that I want to believe is that George sent Julia a$20 bill in the mail and said, I heard you're making 20 a picture because the a story had just come out that she had a$20 million clause for any movie.
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So I I George Clooney, if there's anybody that can do that to Julia Roberts, it it's him.
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But lots of banter and pranks.
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Another prank was apparently they were hanging out in the casino, and then um Clooney he stole Brad Pitt's keys and he couldn't get back because yeah, and and then he told security to like not recognize him, so security was trying to kick him out of the casino, and uh I don't know if I believe that one.
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They also pranked Julia Roberts with a 5 a.m.
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wake-up call, uh, which is a reference to Notion's 12.
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So it's it's pretty funny.
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We had some casting what ifs.
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Apparently, Luke and Owen Wilson were gonna be the Mormon twins.
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Wow.
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And Bruce Willis was potentially Danny Ocean, which I cannot see Bruce Willis as Danny Ocean, not at all.
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And then the fountain scene, another fun behind the scenes on that, that was all kind of done improv and having Carl Reiner as the last one they just found on the day, and it was one of the last things they shot.
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So it's bringing what do you mean they found Carl Reiner on the day?
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Like they just needed somebody, they needed somebody to play this role.
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He walked out on the line Hey, that's Carl Reiner.
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He'd be perfect.
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All right, we're moving on to the have either of you guys been to the fountain?
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No, I've never been to Vegas.
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Have you have you to the Bellagio Fountain?
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To the Bellagio Fountain.
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Yeah, that's pretty much the only thing I've seen in Vegas.
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You flew into I flew into Vegas to go to Zion.
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And so before we left to drive up into Utah, we you reenacted.
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We went into the Bellagio lobby and went to the conservatory and then watched.
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Oh, you are a fan.
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He is a big thing.
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You are a fan of this movie.
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Uh I went there a number of years ago, but that was like top of my mind was I gotta get a picture in front of this fountain.
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It's gotta be nighttime.
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It's man, I I think that's the only reason I want to go to Vegas is because of this movie.
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The only thing I remember about Andy going to Vegas, because I was I was working with him at the time moving to Vegas, is Andy came back and I asked him how it was, and he was like, I am not a Vegas person.
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Uh that's just not me.
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I think that's the hard part about Vegas, is I've heard so many stories, and this movie is entertainment and it is fantasy.
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Like, yeah, if you hear why they they wanted this movie to feel like the golden era of Vegas, and they wanted it to feel like it was almost in the 70s, and they it was obviously mystique about it.
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It's it's not that way.
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Like, there's one they do a one shot, I think, in the Elvis Presley song montage of a bunch of people walking around, and that's like the only time you see like people in shorts.
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It's like and like actual tourists, everyone else that it would that they shoot in the casinos, they intentionally wanted everyone in suits and it to feel like really classy and and high roller.
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But uh, is that not the Vegas experience you had?
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Well, it wasn't my trip, it was uh Buddy's Batcher Party.
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Oh, okay.
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Yeah, didn't do any major shenanigans, it just wasn't my cup of tea.
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I just feel like a lot of people go out there for conferences, and I was like, what a horrible place to go to a conference.
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Terrible excuse for whatever else they're doing.
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All right, let's move on to a special segment that you know and love.
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It's called the Brie Paradox, and we're so glad to bring it back here.
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This is the moment for folks that don't know, is when your partner or friend that you're watching in a movie with or they're sitting next to, or maybe they're in the in the kitchen, when they look up from their device or distraction and actually pay attention to the movie, both good or bad.
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This is named after Andy's partner, Brie.
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So we of course have to have the segment.
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Andy, what was the Brie Paradox for Oceans 11?
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Yeah, so we watched this.
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I was out of town this weekend, as you guys know.
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Yeah.
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So we watched it separately.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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Thank you, Bree.
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I actually I actually guessed what her Brie Paradox was.
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You nailed it?
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I nailed it.
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Can we start?
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Can we start guessing what her pre paradox was?
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Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Let's get a maximum of three guesses.
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Uh
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I just want one guess.
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Okay, one guess.
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Is it related to uh Alisti coming up?
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No.
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About the female female screen time.
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No.
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No.
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My my guess is what what what I what is my preparadox, which is um that uh they would have been flagged for having stolen that giant power the the pinch thing.
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Or uh I would say maybe Rusty Conning basher out of getting arrested, maybe.
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It was neither one of those.
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Okay, what was it?
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It was uh very personal because uh my wife, sorry, partner, uh, grew up grew up in Chicago.
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How dare you! Um, and so in at one point after school, she lived on the north side of Chicago, yes, just just south of Wrigley.
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And the train that we used to get to and from the downtown was Kimball.
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The Brown Line.
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So when they flashed to the recruiting scene of Linus, the first thing you see is a sign for Kimball with the with the L train.
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And so yeah, that was so that's beautiful.
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Uh, my wife and my partner and I uh watched it last night, and she took the brown line down to her work every day for over two years in Chicago.
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And I that scene after living there, especially it and I wrote in my letterbox review if you want to check it out at Luke H.
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Ferris.
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It's crazy to me that modern movies would never go to Chicago in the dead of winter to shoot like a one-off scene of recruiting Matt Damon.
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And not only that, shoot on the L and a CTA station and a dive bar.
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It just is like movies don't do that anymore.
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Yeah, plus it was like a weird camera, like it was like a funky moving as if you were walking alongside of them.
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It just feels like Chicago.
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It's like actually perfect.
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Now uh George Clooney's not on uh the brown line every day, um, but or Matt David, but it really felt that way, like how tight it is, like during peak rush hour, it gets that tight.
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Like my wife has stories.
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Um I think that this occurred during uh what maybe is the next segment, which is Mike's nap check-in.
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I don't remember this.
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You don't remember this?
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No, no, it's right right after the line in the cold open.
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So you're telling me you napped through the recruitment scene?
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I napped through parts of I can't tell you what I napped through.
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Oh no.
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Because I napped through okay.
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We got our work cut up.
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I guess we gotta go beat by beat through the whole thing.
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Okay, all right.
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Let's move on to overall thoughts.
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Uh, I know Mike might not have video overall thoughts.
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Okay, Andy, I want to know the history.
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We've talked about a little bit off off camera and off mic that you love this movie growing up, you had it as a DVD.
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Like, but what's your like history with this movie?
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Do you remember the first time you watched it or the first couple times?
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Yeah, I was just north of I was in double digits and age, but it was one of the first PG 13 movies that my parents allowed me to watch.
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Same on DVD.
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I and I I very vividly remember walking away just being like dumbfounded at yeah, the plot.
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The heist, yeah, which the final thing.
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And then we're older now, so it's much less confusing, confusing.
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But like at the time, I was like, this is the craziest thing I've ever seen.
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And I wanted to be a con you like, you want to be a con artist after watching the movie because it's just so cool.
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I just the movie to me was just the coolest thing.
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All you want to do at that age is be cool, right?
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You're in middle school, right?
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And the music that this was one of the first movies where the dialogue, like the speed, the pace, and the way that the characters interacted with each other was quick and different, and it it just played with the movie.
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So I just remember it being like super cool and mind-blowing, and every time I watched it, I got the same feeling of like awe, shocking awe.
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I still feel the same way, and that was the same way for me, and that's why like I would play the final recap of the heist over and over again because I wanted to figure out what was actually happening, and that's why I loved re-watching it because every time you rewatch it, you get it a little bit more, and that's I mean, like Danny Ocean is just a really cool name, like all their names are everything's cool, ocean is cool.
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So, okay, so this was one of the first movies, PG 13 movies you saw.
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So, how old do you think you were 28?
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Probably like just north of 10, yeah, 10, 11.
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How old do you think you were when you first saw it?
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Uh, I was probably nine.
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Okay, I think I think I've discovered what happened here and why you guys love this movie, and I think it's okay.
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I saw this movie when I was like 19.
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This is the common story with you when we have we have a big gap in movies that we like, is that you you you see them when you're at a different time at a different time.
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You don't see them at the most impressionable ages, so you're like, oh yeah, it's I so I get that because it's like the nostalgia of this movie.
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Like me seeing Brad Pitt and George Clooney as a nine-year-old is like, this is who I need to be.
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Yes, I need to everything.
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My goal in life from here on out is to be as cool as these guys, and I'm still I'm still striving.
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I did find out that Brad Pitt and I have the same triangle tattoo, it's almost exactly the same.
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Yeah, so I'm getting there because I remember like uh Oceans 11 uh maybe not coming out, but like I certainly remember it being in the zeitgeist, and then like I remember Oceans 12 coming out and Oceans 13 coming out, and I remember when Oceans 13 came out, I was like oh, you didn't go to the theater on opening night and clap at the end?
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You didn't do what a weird go.
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No, I did not.
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I did not see it in theaters.
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I I don't know, maybe me and you just do the rest.
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I don't know that I've ever seen Oceans 13.
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Yeah, it's it's good.
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Wait, you haven't seen I don't know that I have.
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Have you seen Oceans 12?
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Maybe.
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I as a nursing fan on TV all the time, so like I've seen parts of each of them.
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Okay, okay.
00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:41.119
But that does make sense why have a different movie.
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It does it does.
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And I think that's like a lot of movies.
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It it is if you don't see this at as an impressionable age, I was obsessed with this movie.
00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:58.240
It still is probably like Star Wars is really important to me, Jaws is really important to me, but I would say this, this movie, Lord of the Rings, like that, those like five or six movies.
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I would say that this one's on my Mount Rushmore.
00:28:01.039 --> 00:28:02.480
Yeah, same, same for me.
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Really?
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Yeah, I kind of want to go into the Mount Rushmore.
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What I mean, what else is on the Mount Rushmore?
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Like, what else?
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Yeah.
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So again, my Mount Rushmore is it.
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I don't want to get into it.
00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:14.240
We're dovetailing, but no, it's okay.
00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:17.440
It's it's it's it's got into literally the whole podcast.
00:28:17.599 --> 00:28:18.480
He got out of the seat.
00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:19.359
He got out of the seat.
00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:21.920
It's a combination of like rewatchability, yes.
00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:24.640
Um, how much I just frankly enjoyed the movie.
00:28:24.799 --> 00:28:26.960
Um don't explain it to me, just tell me what they are.
00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:33.119
Would be Ocean's Eleven, okay, The Dark Knight, okay, Inception, okay, and Goodwill Hunting.
00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:34.000
Oh, those four.
00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:34.640
That's great.
00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:34.880
Okay.
00:28:35.039 --> 00:28:35.759
Those are my four.
00:28:35.920 --> 00:28:38.319
They're all like kind of similar, also in the same vibe.
00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:39.279
Like I love dialogue.
00:28:39.599 --> 00:28:39.839
Yeah.
00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:40.559
Like they're not.
00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:46.559
I think what's interesting about your Mount Rushmore is not the other movies on it, but the fact that Oceans 11 is on it.
00:28:46.720 --> 00:28:47.920
I just love the movie.
00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:51.680
I don't think so, because I would mine would be mine would be pretty similar.
00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:56.160
No, it's not because your mo your your Mount Rushmore is literally in your letterboxed.
00:28:56.319 --> 00:28:57.440
Yeah, but I switched that.
00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:03.359
But I mean, I would say either Inception or Dark Knight, they like they're one on one, one of those Nolan movies.
00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:05.759
The Fellowship, um, Jaws.
00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:10.400
I gotta give a Star Wars movie in there, but then Ocean's Love and it's all it's it's right there.
00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:11.599
It's like it's kind of a hybrid.
00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:12.799
It's under two hours.
00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:13.920
I rewatch it like every time.
00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:15.119
That's the great thing about this movie.
00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:23.680
It's this this is like exact I think it's exactly two hours or two, like it's it's uh I thought it was like it wasn't like uh 101, wasn't it?
00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:27.359
Or is it yeah, it might it's right at it's right at that perfect sweet spot.
00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:28.160
Yeah, it is.
00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:34.640
What's your amount with Rushmore, Mike, since you I don't know okay, moving on to keep going leasties and besties.
00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:36.240
Oh, we got some good ones, guys.
00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:37.279
We got some good ones.
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:39.440
Okay, you'll like this one.
00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:40.480
This will be fun for you.
00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:51.039
Um, team member least likely to succeed if they didn't get recruited by Danny, Basher, Livingston, the Mormon twins, Rusty, or Yen.
00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:54.400
Least likely to succeed if they didn't get recruited by Danny.
00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:55.519
I have an opinion on the twins.
00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:58.000
Yeah, I think they're a bit of like idiot savants.
00:29:58.400 --> 00:30:00.799
They are that is that is a great way to describe them.
00:30:01.039 --> 00:30:02.400
I didn't know how to describe it, and that's perfect.
00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:02.960
That's perfect.
00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:06.640
So, like, I kind of see them like like backing their way into success.
00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:09.279
Rusty says, and I noticed this last night.
00:30:09.359 --> 00:30:11.759
He says, I think they're having trouble filling the time.
00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:18.160
So that actually adds to your theory that like they're brilliant guys, but they're kind of just yeah, slacker bum, brilliant.
00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:21.279
I think it's uh in my opinion, it's uh the the basher.
00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:22.240
It's basher, yeah.
00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:25.359
The obvious answer is basher because he would have been in prison had Rusty not been there.
00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:29.200
Oh, they then uh you tusses, you tusses, yeah.
00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:30.480
What jump to do?
00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:31.839
And it's that wasn't great.
00:30:31.920 --> 00:30:32.319
That wasn't great.
00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:34.319
And the Audrey actually brought up a good point.
00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:36.799
She's like, oh, he's excited because he's Mary Hope.
00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:38.079
Audrey, uh my partner.
00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:43.680
Um she was a she was like, oh, he's really excited to be with Robert.
00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:44.799
Robert Criminals again.
00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:46.079
Yeah, because his team stopped.
00:30:46.319 --> 00:30:48.000
Robert criminals again.
00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:48.960
That's what he said.
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:49.759
It's from the movie.
00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:50.559
That's what he says.
00:30:50.799 --> 00:30:51.759
Like, didn't we?
00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:53.759
We did not watch this movie.
00:30:55.279 --> 00:30:56.079
I do remember it now.
00:30:58.559 --> 00:31:00.640
We're gonna we're gonna read off best lines.
00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:03.039
Mike's people who are gonna so funny.
00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:12.480
The people who like this podcast, we may think it's they're gonna think it's funny that like the whole episode is them trying to convince Mike this is a fun movie.
00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:20.079
Or or listeners, let us know if you think my Mike actually watched the movie or not, or just use Chat GPT.
00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:22.079
I had a case for for Rusty.
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:24.640
I think Rusty needs Danny.
00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:30.240
I think Rusty and Danny, they they work so well together as a team, as like partners.
00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:33.359
And I mean, look where he finds them, right?
00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:33.920
Yeah.
00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:35.599
Uh God, I'm bored.
00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:38.799
You look bored.
00:31:39.039 --> 00:31:40.480
You get the cookies literally, Mike.
00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:40.880
You look bored.
00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:42.160
Get the cookies SN.
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:44.240
Do you have it?
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:45.119
Do you okay?
00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:48.000
Least plausible we can move on.
00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:50.160
Least plausible con moment.
00:31:50.319 --> 00:31:51.039
You'll like this one.
00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:52.559
Yeah, this is right up Mike's alley.
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:53.200
Yeah.
00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:57.119
Uh, so this is things that are the least plausible in this movie, which there's a lot.
00:31:57.200 --> 00:31:59.759
All right, Danny's timeline in and out of the vents.
00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:03.759
That one always stood out to me, like how he got back in time and super good crawler.
00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:04.960
Yeah, really good at crawling.
00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:08.640
The amount of outfit switches the Mormon twins do without being noticed.
00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:13.039
I mean, they're in that casino a lot, and all they do is switch their jackets.
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:19.839
Speaking of the Mormon twins, convincing the security guard to put the case into the vault when he's like, Oh, I forgot my badge.
00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:20.720
It's magic stuff.
00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:21.759
It's his stuff.
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:30.559
Now it matches the look, the look, but I that was one of the things I was like, okay, I don't know if they would actually like take their word for it.
00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:36.960
Uh, the pinch technology, which exists, but the whole idea like that it could knock out a city, I think is not real.
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:44.079
Uh, I don't uh I don't think Linus and Zerger uh would have both fooled Benedict on the same night.
00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:49.279
So I don't think Saul doing Zerger and Linus doing the commission guy would have fooled Benedict.
00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:50.400
And then I thought about it.
00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:55.839
I think Benedict knew something was up and maybe he was trying to like fish it out, solve it.
00:32:56.079 --> 00:33:00.160
Yeah, because I Andy DeGarcia does a really good job because you kind of don't know what he's thinking.
00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:01.519
You know he's a really smart dude.
00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:05.839
Like, we know this character is ruthless and a fierce person.
00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:09.920
I I have a question that kind of goes into this least plausible thing that you're describing.
00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:15.119
Like, so in the movie, when they say that Danny's out, yeah.
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:19.920
I struggle to understand what was Danny's role supposed to be.
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:21.039
That's a good question.
00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:24.880
His role, I think his role was supposed to be what he ended up doing the whole time.
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:26.880
Yes, I think that's what it was.
00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:31.440
They con line us as a way to like the rest of the crew.
00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:35.359
Yeah, like it's kind of to it's kind of initiate initiation.
00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:52.400
I mean that that makes sense from the fact that like if that's not true, then the movie breaks down because if if the idea was Danny was gonna be was gonna be the gaming commission person, like he was going to be immediately recognized by Terry Benedict.
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:54.720
So here's okay, so here's the confusing.
00:33:54.799 --> 00:34:03.039
I think this is where we don't really know, and that's kind of the fun of this movie, is when Rusty pulls him out and he's like, Tell me it's about not about screwing the guy and screwing your wife.
00:34:03.119 --> 00:34:05.680
Yeah, that I think that's an authentic conversation.
00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:10.320
It has to be because it's just between the two of them, yes, as it came up, like it's us as the audience and them.
00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:16.400
And and Danny at the end of that goes, if everything goes to plan, I won't have to make that call.
00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:20.000
So Danny in his head, he knew, and Danny's the mastermind.
00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:22.320
Like he's been sitting in his cell for four years.
00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:25.440
Like, this is all about getting his wife back when it comes down to it.
00:34:25.519 --> 00:34:29.039
Like, this the whole thing is about getting his wife back, plus 160 million.
00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:32.480
Doesn't hurt a few other uh plot least plausible con moments.
00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:38.239
Uh they wouldn't get found out like immediately, but the sequel kind of covers that.
00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:42.400
Um, Benedict not recognizing Rusty's voice in the vault as the SWAT guy.
00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:44.320
Because he had just talked to him on the phone.
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:44.960
Yeah, yeah.
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:46.880
Yeah, I thought that was a little bit.
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:50.320
I think it's really for me the least one is is Danny's timeline in and out.
00:34:50.480 --> 00:35:03.119
I think that whole thing in what we're talking about, like Danny exposing himself to Benedict, yeah, and then them like working it out, and then also like conning Linus, like you wouldn't add that to the complexity of you would never in reality.
00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:08.800
I'm not a thief, but you would never make an additional con within your own crew.
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:12.960
Yeah, I think just to like, just to like nurture the next the next generation.
00:35:13.199 --> 00:35:17.280
I think I'm willing, I'm willing to accept the explanation you guys did about them conning Linus.
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:28.719
Um the thing that I think is the most like implausible is you liter they literally stole like probably a one-of-one.
00:35:29.199 --> 00:35:32.079
Well, they describe it, it's a one-of-one piece of technology.
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:39.920
Immediate red flags everywhere, like an APB out across the nation, and they aren't doing it in masks.
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:47.519
So, like, there's definitely security cameras, and they definitely have pictures of these guys, and every casino in Vegas would see he makes a strong argument.
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:53.920
It's good, it it's true, but I don't really care because it's one of my it's one of my favorite scenes.
00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:55.840
I'm not touching, I'm not touching you.
00:35:55.920 --> 00:35:56.559
I'm not touching you.
00:35:56.639 --> 00:35:58.480
You're putting it evil Kinevil.
00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:00.800
Are you human?
00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:02.159
Yes, 19.
00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:03.760
That's a good one.
00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:05.119
That's a I think that wins, Mike.
00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:06.159
You're right, you're right.
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:07.199
Well, we'll give you that one.
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:08.320
Okay, the Corky St.
00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:12.400
Clair leasty for least realistic, but somehow perfect name for a character.
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:13.679
Bastard people.
00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:19.679
Uh Bastard Tar, Rusty Ryan, Turk and Virgil Malloy, Terry Benedict, Ruben Tishkop, or Linus Caldwell.
00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:20.320
What's your favorite name?
00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:21.360
What's the name of the category?
00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:23.440
The Corky Sinclair leasty.
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:26.000
You can't catch that.
00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:28.000
That's why I said bastard people.
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:32.159
The corky Sinclair leasty for least realistic, but somehow perfect name for a character.
00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:33.440
Bastard people.
00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:39.280
Nobody listening to this podcast actually listened to our podcast on that.
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:40.159
They will not understand.
00:36:41.199 --> 00:36:43.760
Yeah, now they will be a whole podcast.
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:44.480
They're gonna listen to that.
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:53.440
I got my answer.
00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:54.239
Okay, yeah.
00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:54.719
Thank you.
00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:57.599
So my answer is Terry Benedict.
00:36:57.760 --> 00:36:59.679
I think Terry Benedict is perfect.
00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:01.920
It's a great name to say it's Terry Benedict.
00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:02.480
Benedict.
00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:04.320
It's like first name, last name, kind of thing.
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:06.000
Yeah, and it's so it's strong and intense.
00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:06.800
Strong and intense.
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:08.000
It's just like the human.
00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:12.159
He walks a million miles an hour that's for no reason everywhere.
00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:14.079
Doesn't matter where he's going.
00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:15.280
He's a short man.
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:17.119
He is a short man, he's a short king.
00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:18.800
And he's like made out to be the villain.
00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:19.840
He's too tall for her.
00:37:20.079 --> 00:37:21.119
But he's also not a villain.
00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:22.800
Like, I don't know how to describe it.
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:23.119
Right.
00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:24.719
Like he's he's doing his job.
00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:25.119
Right.
00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:29.840
But but there's like these subtleties where they imply that he's he's associated with a mob.
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:34.239
Like he's he's kind of a well, you were on a casino, you definitely associate with the mob.
00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:36.239
So hit a guy, whack you, you're done.
00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:38.159
But with Benedict.
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:40.079
We'll get to this.
00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:41.679
What were the other names?
00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:44.800
Uh Basher Tar, Rusty Ryan, Turk, and Virgil Meloet.
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:45.119
Yeah, yeah.
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:46.559
That's Basher, otherwise.
00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:47.840
I love Ruben as well.
00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:53.360
I just love and I think Linus Caldwell, it sounds nerdy, and uh it works well for that character.
00:37:53.519 --> 00:37:57.840
All right, the leasty for the least amount of female screen time outside of the main heroine.
00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:02.159
Uh, not a lot of women in this movie, uh except for one, except for really one.
00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:03.840
But there are some women in this movie.
00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:10.000
Um, we have Molly Marie Combs as hot uh uh she is the actress and charmed.
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:12.239
She's playing herself at the poker table.
00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:13.440
She has one line.
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:14.880
Um, call.
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:16.159
Oh, she says two things.
00:38:16.239 --> 00:38:17.840
She's I think she says call twice.
00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:18.239
Yeah.
00:38:18.480 --> 00:38:20.559
And then she but I think that's all that's it.
00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:24.000
Um Kelly Atkins as Charmaine, the dancer.
00:38:24.159 --> 00:38:26.639
Um her mom's coming on next.
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:34.079
Brad Pitts look with this with the sucker.
00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:35.360
Oh, that's great.
00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:42.000
Uh uh Rose Lynn, who played the Jack Black Dealer before Frank, uh was played by Lori Galinski.
00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:44.639
Uh, three she had three lines, um, which was nice.
00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:50.000
The review board member, number one, that's the actual character's name, uh, had two to three lines.
00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:52.000
The rollerblader with the dog.
00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:53.679
That was a woman, I believe.
00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:56.400
Um, I think she said watch out.
00:38:56.559 --> 00:38:58.079
And then there was a few cameos.
00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:03.519
Angie, uh, Angie Dickinson was actually in the crowd at the fight, and she was in the the first for the first film.
00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:04.960
Um, we don't select one.
00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:10.639
That's I just wanted to list out uh this might be a new award for least amount of female screen time outside of the new.
00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:14.639
I don't know if you're gonna beat it, but the one woman they had was great.
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:16.880
So um they no that's part of my day.
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:17.760
Well, we'll cut that out.
00:39:18.960 --> 00:39:20.800
Okay, let's move on to the besties.
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:25.039
The Rusty Ryan, honorary besties for on-screen eating and drinking.
00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:30.320
This is just like we'll always be if if we like a movie where someone's eating on screen, it's rusty Ryan.
00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:31.360
Ticonic.
00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:33.519
So this was Brad Pitt's choice.
00:39:33.679 --> 00:39:34.559
He wanted to do this.
00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:39.840
This one in his character discovery, he just felt like he should be eating, and they just kept going.
00:39:40.079 --> 00:39:42.480
I'm gonna list out all the things he eats in the movie.
00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:43.840
Andy and I did some work on this.
00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:45.440
So that's about half Luke Finish.
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:46.159
Yeah, yeah, we did.
00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:47.039
This is teamwork.
00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:51.760
The chips and cheese outside of the poker game, great, like looks like a really crappy chips and cheese.
00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:52.719
Terrible chips and cheese.
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:55.119
It looks awful, but he's just like the stadium chips and cheese.
00:39:55.360 --> 00:40:00.719
Yeah, like but he's just like the way he's eating it, and the way he like moves his most of this food is awful for him.
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:06.719
Yeah, coffee and tea at the diner, and I I put that on there because the way he goes, I'll try to do it.
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:10.159
You want to rob three?
00:40:11.039 --> 00:40:11.360
Uh oh.
00:40:11.920 --> 00:40:13.920
Like it's it's it's it's incredible.
00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:20.000
The popcorn and candy at the circus, the sherbet sitting with Saul at the dog track.
00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:20.800
Amazing.
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:23.360
This is which is the weirdest choice.
00:40:23.679 --> 00:40:28.000
Salad while talking um through the IT debrief with Livingston.
00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:30.239
Um, uh salad at Rubin's as well.
00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:32.480
So there's two salads, two salads, two salads.
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:34.159
So he has some health stuff in there.
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:44.639
Probably the most iconic one is the shrimp cocktail with the napkin over his hand when he's talking to Linus right before test shows.
00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:51.760
Uh, I think I during Yin's uh demo, I think he has an energy drink.
00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:59.679
I couldn't figure out if it was a Red Bull when he's like saying you gotta get from the floor to the door and and without touching anything.
00:40:59.840 --> 00:41:02.880
And I think he's drinking an energy drink in that one.
00:41:03.119 --> 00:41:06.480
We have the ice cream when Linus and Danny get back from getting the pinch.
00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:11.599
Notice this one, the oh, we both had this one the jelly beans when he's debriefing Linus.
00:41:11.679 --> 00:41:12.480
I believe they're jelly beans.
00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:24.480
Audrey and I were like yeah, some sort of she's like she said that it they sounded like they weren't like they actually made a noise, like they were rocks, so it felt like they would have to be yeah, a hard candy of some sort.
00:41:24.639 --> 00:41:26.159
I don't know if you caught that, Mike.
00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:27.280
Were you paying that?
00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:28.159
No, okay.
00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:30.480
Um, and then do you like jelly beans?
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:35.840
The fast food burger waiting for Danny at the prison, and uh that's when he burps everything up.
00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:39.440
Incredible to have Brad Pitt do that.
00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:41.519
Do you have a favorite one of those, Andy?
00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:43.280
Oh, it's the end with the cheeseburger.
00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:44.079
That's why I'm wearing the shirt.
00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:44.880
Ted New Juju.
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:46.880
Ted Newjuic calls wants his shirt back.
00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:48.480
Like that that ending scene.
00:41:48.559 --> 00:41:51.760
I'm like, that burger looks gross and amazing all at the same time.
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:52.159
I know.
00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:55.360
I love how he doesn't finish it and just wraps it up and throws it.
00:41:55.679 --> 00:41:56.320
It's a quarter eaten.
00:41:56.480 --> 00:41:58.719
He's like he's like, oh, I probably shouldn't finish this.
00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:03.599
Oh that is the Rusty Ryan honorary bestie for on-screen eating and drinking.
00:42:03.679 --> 00:42:06.000
All right, best con character.
00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:10.480
So this is when our team members are playing a character in the con.
00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:15.199
So it's not them as a character, it's they're playing a character, a bunch of them.
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:16.880
Uh, Rusty has two.
00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:20.400
I don't know if this is the actual name, but this is how I always say it in my head.
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:22.079
It's peck at F.
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:23.920
I don't think that's what it is.
00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:25.039
I should have got the subtitles.
00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:26.320
Peck ATF.
00:42:26.880 --> 00:42:30.400
Rusty as anyone call for a doctor with the wig.
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:31.039
Amazing.
00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:33.679
Apparently, that is a Austin Powers wig.
00:42:33.760 --> 00:42:35.119
I don't believe that's true.
00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:37.440
I that's what I want to believe that's true.
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:41.679
Is they they found that on the lot, the Warnerwood lot, or something.
00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:43.119
Your thoughts, Mike?
00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:44.559
Sure.
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:49.920
Linus says Sheldon Williams Sheldon will as the gaming commission lackey.
00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:51.440
Absolutely the best.
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:52.800
So good.
00:42:53.039 --> 00:42:56.159
He's got a record as long as it's a long.
00:42:57.840 --> 00:42:59.519
Saul as Lyman Zerger.
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:00.960
Lyman Zerger.
00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:02.079
My name.
00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:11.360
I uh one of my favorite lines that I noticed on the rewatch was when is he in the hotel, like the guys are in the hotel suite, like talking, and he's still in character.
00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:15.760
And Rusty says to turn it off, and he's like, I'll turn it off when I'm ready to turn it off.
00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:16.719
Saul, Saul.
00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:18.800
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:20.880
That's so in his normal voice.
00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:21.199
Yeah.
00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:23.760
Danny as clueless Danny at the end.
00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:27.039
We talked about his like plain, like, I don't know what, I don't know, Benedict.
00:43:27.119 --> 00:43:28.400
I don't know what you're talking about.
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:31.519
Um, then we have the the Mormon twins.
00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:35.760
Virgil as the Bloom Boy and Turk as I just like the douche, the douchebag.
00:43:36.159 --> 00:43:44.400
Virgil and Turk as Zirger Security, Virgil and Turk as waiters, Virgil and Turk as vault carriers, Virgil and Turk as EMTs.
00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:50.000
Uh, and then the last one is Frank Catton as Ramon Escalante as Frank Catton.
00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:53.440
May as well call it White Jack.
00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:59.840
Him and Matt Damon going back and forth is super I gotta shout out eight.
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:02.559
Uh, Andy Garcia for not breaking.
00:44:03.280 --> 00:44:07.360
Andy Garcia has to play it straight, and these two guys are just hamming it up.
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:08.400
It's such a good season.
00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:09.119
You missed one.
00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:09.760
Which one?
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:12.000
Danny Ocean as Danny Ocean.
00:44:12.159 --> 00:44:12.719
I said that one.
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:13.039
What?
00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:14.639
I said Danny as clueless.
00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:15.840
Sorry, I took a nap at the end.
00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:19.519
Okay, you took a nap to the what's your favorite connach checker in this one?
00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:20.400
Mike Snapchaker.
00:44:20.719 --> 00:44:22.960
What's the best one for you guys?
00:44:23.360 --> 00:44:24.000
Mike?
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:25.280
You gotta have a good one.
00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:26.079
Balloon Boy?
00:44:26.159 --> 00:44:27.920
I think the Doctor was the funniest one for me.
00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:28.239
Yeah.
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:29.920
It's a great line and it's a great laugh.
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:31.519
Breathe, damn it, breathe.
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:32.639
We've lost him.
00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:33.519
Yeah, we've lost him.
00:44:33.599 --> 00:44:33.840
Yeah.
00:44:33.920 --> 00:44:34.159
Yeah.
00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:35.199
That was good.
00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:47.519
How much fun would this movie be if you're if you're at that like peak of your powers movie star and it's like, okay, play the cheesiest doctor from like an ER show and just have fun and wear a terrible wig.
00:44:47.679 --> 00:44:50.480
I think I know what that wig is, what character that wig is from.
00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:53.039
I don't think it's Austin Powers' wig.
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:56.239
I think it's a wig from a character in Austin Powers.
00:44:56.400 --> 00:44:57.840
And I'm thinking of the character in my mind right now.
00:44:58.000 --> 00:44:58.719
Dude, do you do the research?
00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:01.519
Uh Andy, what's your favorite con character?
00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:02.320
No, you go first.
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:03.440
I'm curious what you have to say.
00:45:03.679 --> 00:45:06.719
I love Sheldon Willis of the Nevada gaming commission.
00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:12.239
I I think it's that's why this is I when I gave that hot take of this is my favorite Matt Damon role.
00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:15.599
Him nervous right before he talks to Benedict.
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:17.519
It's one of the great lines by Rusty, too.
00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:22.400
Yeah, it's like, hey Rusty, can you hey Rusty, can you help me?
00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:25.440
Whatever you do, don't under any circumstances.
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:26.159
Hey Rusty.
00:45:26.400 --> 00:45:27.519
Rusty, can you take a look at this?
00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:28.719
Yeah, sure.
00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:35.679
It that and then him like right before, and then Livingston, who doesn't like get as much credit as a character being like the IT nerd.
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:39.199
Yeah, but he's like, You're a great kid, you're a natural, but don't screw it up.
00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:41.280
Can I ask you a question about that?
00:45:41.519 --> 00:45:43.599
Because he says a line that I actually still don't understand.
00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:45.440
I could have looked it up, but I wanted to save it for the pod.
00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:46.079
Okay.
00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:54.400
He is asked by Benedict what happened to so and so, and he goes, not since he died last year, and I've never understood that.
00:45:54.559 --> 00:46:03.920
We talked about it last night, and I always thought that I in my head it was like he's being funny.
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:17.760
Like I I always say that line as a joke, but I think it's either one Linus did his homework and like and Benedict's trying to test him, or Benedict's bullshitting him, and so he's bullshitting him back.
00:46:18.159 --> 00:46:19.360
It's one of those two things.
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:32.079
But I think what actually is happening is Benedict is testing if this guy's legit, and Linus like he on the spot, like acts very natural, like not since he died last year, like in his con character.
00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:33.599
Yeah, but it's a good question.
00:46:33.679 --> 00:46:34.960
I I've always thought about that too.
00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:36.960
Like, what what's actually going on behind the scenes?
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:37.679
Never understood.
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:40.480
But I liked uh Rusty's first con, getting Basher out.
00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:42.000
Yeah, it's so good.
00:46:42.159 --> 00:46:44.239
Hey, what can you do with uh something I just slipped you?
00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:44.960
Yeah, it's done.
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:45.760
It's done.
00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:46.719
Find Greggs.
00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:47.920
Will you tell him you need to see him?
00:46:48.079 --> 00:46:48.320
Who?
00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:49.760
Just find one, will you?
00:46:50.480 --> 00:46:50.880
Amazing.
00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:52.159
Okay, best role.
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:53.039
This is a great one.
00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:54.239
Andy added this one.
00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:58.320
Best role in the crew you would want to play, assuming you could do it.
00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:18.639
So either Danny uh leading it, Rusty, Ops, Manager, Con Man, Linus, Pickpocket, Con, Frank, Inside Man, Ruben, who's funding it, Dasher, explosives, Saul, Con Man, old school, uh, Livingston electronics and surveillance, Turk and Virgil are our dirty work, Mazingen as the Grease Man.
00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:20.159
What would you want to do, Mike?
00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:21.199
Or what if you could do it?
00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:22.000
What would you do anyway?
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:22.880
What do you think you would do?
00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:26.480
So this is assuming I could do it and and we're successful with this.
00:47:26.639 --> 00:47:26.880
Yeah.
00:47:26.960 --> 00:47:27.119
Yeah.
00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:27.360
Yeah.
00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:27.519
Yeah.
00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:30.719
I mean, it's Danny Ocean because he gets the money and the girl.
00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:32.159
That's a fair point.
00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:32.480
Nice.
00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:35.280
I I could see you too because you are a very analytical thinker.
00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:40.079
I think you would have a really good plan and calculated, and you would leave a motion at the door.
00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:40.559
Yeah.
00:47:41.760 --> 00:47:42.239
Andy.
00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:44.320
I always think Ruben has the best gig in this whole thing.
00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:44.719
Yeah, yeah.
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:46.639
He's got the best gig in this whole thing.
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:50.559
He just slaps down a big check and then kind of just gets to sit back and watch it all go.
00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:55.360
Like him at the one of my favorite things I picked up re-watching this is at the fight.
00:47:55.519 --> 00:47:55.760
Yes.
00:47:56.000 --> 00:48:00.960
When the lights go out and Benedict turns to him and Ruben goes, I don't know what's going on.
00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:02.559
This is crazy.
00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:04.880
I think like that would just be the best.
00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:09.039
That would that that that that split second would just I don't know if I could hold it together.
00:48:09.280 --> 00:48:14.239
No, he is he's one of my favorite characters in this in this movie, in the series.
00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:18.079
He it well, you haven't seen 13, but it pays off in 13 as well.
00:48:18.239 --> 00:48:20.400
Like he gets a really good moment.
00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:30.320
Um, I think for me, I I I probably being Virgil and Turk, one of the two, just like always running, changing characters.
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:32.400
I don't think I could do a sustained con.
00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:35.440
Like what Saul does, like he's fully immersive in character.
00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:37.360
And everything's really on him.
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:41.599
Like he's got to deliver those quote unquote diamonds because that's the explosive.
00:48:41.679 --> 00:48:42.880
Yeah, it gets him in the vault.
00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:44.719
It hinges, everything hinges on that.
00:48:44.800 --> 00:48:46.400
Like, and it's a long con.
00:48:46.480 --> 00:48:48.639
Like it's multiple days where he has to be this character.
00:48:48.880 --> 00:48:49.760
I don't think I could do that.
00:48:49.840 --> 00:48:54.639
I think if I was running around and being a waiter and pretending to be a balloon boy, they have a lot of variety of my brother.
00:48:55.039 --> 00:48:57.280
The jobs are are hard, but they're not that hard.
00:48:57.440 --> 00:48:57.679
Yeah.
00:48:57.840 --> 00:48:58.079
Yeah.
00:48:58.320 --> 00:48:59.119
Relative to everybody else.
00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:03.920
I think the idea is you know, I don't assume that the skills for criminals are very high.
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:09.280
I think it's the idea that this is such an elaborate con, and there's all these cons happening all the time.
00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:18.559
Like even their ground lit, like groundwork where like the brothers are are checking the times and they like start arguing about the the clocks.
00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:20.239
Gonna watch that works.
00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:26.559
Uh, is it's it's really fun because there's all these little cons that are happening with each each character gets their moment to really shine.
00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:29.760
Their their roles increase too throughout the yeah, yeah.
00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:35.039
So I think I'd be one of the one of the Mormon twins because I think I would be better, like just kind of on the move.
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:39.840
Like, whatever you need, I'll drive, I'll like I'll con I'm gonna drop you like third period French.
00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:40.719
Third period French.
00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:42.719
Great line, great line.
00:49:42.960 --> 00:49:43.760
It's really funny.
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:51.519
In the behind the scenes Scott Conn, who he he's just shits on Casey Affleck the whole time in any of his interviews.
00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:54.159
He just they keep it going, it's so good.
00:49:54.639 --> 00:50:05.199
Okay, then Nicholas Cage, caster Troy Bestie for going for it, acting choice, Don Cheadle as basher, uh Barney Rubble trouble.
00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:08.559
Uh that his accent is so crazy.
00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:14.800
Um, I also love when he covers his crotch before he lights the pinch, fires off the pinch.
00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:18.000
One of them, like as a nine-year-old boy watching that, yeah.
00:50:18.159 --> 00:50:19.440
It's it's peak comedy.
00:50:19.519 --> 00:50:20.639
Yes, peak comedy.
00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:22.639
Elliot Gould as Ruben.
00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:27.280
I mean, everything, every line that he delivers is out of control.
00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:31.599
Um that's your Bobby's Caldwell's kid from Chicago, right?
00:50:31.840 --> 00:50:32.800
You like it there?
00:50:33.119 --> 00:50:33.920
That's wonderful.
00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:35.440
Get in the goddamn house.
00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:37.119
So good.
00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:40.400
Bernie Mac has Frank in the van negotiation scene.
00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:43.119
I mean, just letting him cook.
00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:47.599
It's the best, it's it's the best scene that Bernie Mac is in the whole movie by far.
00:50:48.079 --> 00:50:51.519
I'd be afraid that would interfere with a little bit of my social agenda.
00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:56.239
He's so good.
00:50:56.480 --> 00:50:57.760
He's the best part of the whole movie.
00:50:57.920 --> 00:51:00.159
Shouting out a Betty from Saratoga.
00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:02.239
Uh Betty from Saratoga.
00:51:03.440 --> 00:51:08.559
So uh and then Carl Reiner playing Lyman Zerger, uh, which is which is great.
00:51:08.639 --> 00:51:12.480
What's what's your favorite bestie for going for it out of all those?
00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:18.239
I don't really think that there's anything here that's really worthy of a caster's caster troy.
00:51:18.400 --> 00:51:18.880
Yeah, yeah.
00:51:19.039 --> 00:51:20.079
Caster's face.
00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:22.000
No, that's tough to beat.
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:24.559
But it's in the spirit of the spirit.
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:25.119
In the spirit.
00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:28.880
I think Don Cheadle wins it in the spirit because he's playing for it.
00:51:29.039 --> 00:51:30.000
A cockney accent.
00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:30.880
Yeah.
00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:31.280
Yeah.
00:51:31.840 --> 00:51:32.800
Falls on his face a little bit.
00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:33.199
Yeah, yeah.
00:51:33.360 --> 00:51:34.000
But it's it's good.
00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:34.480
It's good.
00:51:34.559 --> 00:51:34.719
Yeah.
00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:36.239
I gotta shout out Ruben though.
00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:36.559
Oh.
00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:38.800
The scene, the initial the opening scene.
00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:39.760
We'll talk about it.
00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:46.000
We'll we'll talk about it uh coming up next, which is uh the longest segment we've ever had in its best line.
00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:48.159
Can I strap in, Mike?
00:51:48.400 --> 00:51:49.679
Can they even come back?
00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:51.119
Okay, Mike.
00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:54.639
Actually, I want you to keep record of how many of these- You want me to read the lines?
00:51:54.800 --> 00:51:57.119
No, I want you to keep record of how many you nap through.
00:51:57.280 --> 00:51:59.440
Like how many you don't remember from the movie.
00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:03.039
All right, starting now with Topher Grace.
00:52:03.280 --> 00:52:05.840
So, okay, for context, I love Topher Grace.
00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:08.880
Most, yeah, most of these lines I didn't realize.
00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:11.199
I say these lines constantly in my real life.
00:52:11.360 --> 00:52:11.679
Yes.
00:52:11.840 --> 00:52:14.880
Like I'll say them at work and yes, without thinking.
00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:15.599
Without thinking.
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:19.840
Like I'll say them in a meeting, and it's this is how much this movie is embedded into my brain.
00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:20.079
Yes.
00:52:20.239 --> 00:52:24.320
And I don't realize I'm saying the line from this movie, it's just part of my subconscious.
00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:27.119
One of those is all reds.
00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:31.119
Topher Grace is so good.
00:52:31.199 --> 00:52:35.519
Uh I think that I I I didn't I know you've got a lot in here.
00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:42.480
That might be my my winner for the look on Rusty's face, is what up, bro?
00:52:42.639 --> 00:52:43.280
Yeah.
00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:47.119
We already said this one.
00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:48.000
God, I'm bored.
00:52:48.159 --> 00:52:49.840
You look bored, I am bored.
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:50.719
How's the clink?
00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:52.079
Did you get the cookies I sent you?
00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:54.239
Why do you think I came to see you first?
00:52:54.639 --> 00:52:58.480
Until that perfect hand comes along, and then you get bed big, and then you take the house.
00:52:58.719 --> 00:53:02.800
That's another that's that's like one of the more serious moments of the movie, like at the elevator.
00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:03.760
Yeah, why do this?
00:53:03.840 --> 00:53:08.159
I mean, that's when you're like, oh, this is a movie star, this is a great actor, and then been practicing the speech, haven't you?
00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:09.280
I've rushed it a little bit.
00:53:11.119 --> 00:53:14.960
I know more about casino security than any man alive.
00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:15.920
I invented it.
00:53:16.079 --> 00:53:17.199
It cannot be beaten.
00:53:17.440 --> 00:53:25.840
They've got cameras, they've got locks, they've got watches, they've got timers, they've got vaults, they got enough armed personnel to occupy Paris.
00:53:26.639 --> 00:53:28.719
Okay, bad example.
00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:33.199
You send flowers, dated his wife for a while.
00:53:34.320 --> 00:53:35.199
I already said this one.
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:36.239
Go find Greg's tone.
00:53:36.400 --> 00:53:37.280
I need to see him.
00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:39.119
Just find him, will you?
00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:42.079
This is one I say all the time in real life.
00:53:42.400 --> 00:53:43.519
Hey, I could ask him.
00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:45.360
Hey, I could ask him.
00:53:46.320 --> 00:53:48.880
I saw you coming before you even got up this morning.
00:53:49.039 --> 00:53:51.519
That's all when uh he's talking to Rusty.
00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:53.280
And then this other one in that scene.
00:53:53.440 --> 00:53:55.039
You come here to give me a physical.
00:53:56.320 --> 00:53:57.199
So good.
00:53:58.239 --> 00:53:59.280
We talked about this one.
00:53:59.360 --> 00:54:01.039
You're either in or you're out right now.
00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:02.480
That's like the trailer line.
00:54:02.639 --> 00:54:05.280
I've seen like you read it in the back of the VHS.
00:54:06.239 --> 00:54:07.760
This is a more subtle one.
00:54:07.920 --> 00:54:16.639
This is uh uh this is of Turk Malloy, and he's talking to Saul when they're all at the meeting up in Las Vegas at Ruben's house.
00:54:16.880 --> 00:54:18.159
I think you dig pro vote.
00:54:18.239 --> 00:54:19.920
I think you I think you do very well there.
00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:22.639
And Saul's like, I'll look into it.
00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:24.239
Please get away from me now.
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:26.239
So annoying.
00:54:26.480 --> 00:54:27.599
Um, we saw this.
00:54:27.679 --> 00:54:28.800
It's uh it's nice there.
00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:30.400
You like it getting the goddamn house.
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:31.039
That's great.
00:54:31.199 --> 00:54:41.440
Um, well, yeah, that's uh in response to Saul kind of saying what they're gonna do is just walk out of there with 160 million dollars without getting caught or stopped.
00:54:41.840 --> 00:54:43.840
Um denim like a gene.
00:54:44.079 --> 00:54:45.440
You're a balloon boy.
00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:47.920
They say taupe is soothing.
00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:58.159
Another one that I say, which is a deep cut, is when uh Livingston and he gets stopped by the security guard and the guy's like, How are those servers?
00:54:58.320 --> 00:54:59.360
And he says, excellent.
00:54:59.679 --> 00:55:00.320
I don't know why.
00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:01.519
I love that line.
00:55:01.760 --> 00:55:03.360
He's just the way he delivers that.
00:55:03.599 --> 00:55:05.440
You gotta walk before you can crawl.
00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:06.800
Reverse that.
00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:08.400
You scared?
00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:09.840
You suicidal?
00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:11.679
Only in the morning.
00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:15.119
Would you look at this doughnut?
00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:18.159
Uh that's at the pinch stealing scene, which is great.
00:55:18.400 --> 00:55:21.519
Uh, this one is my brother and I say to each other all the time.
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:23.519
I have a suit.
00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:25.440
This is uh very nice material.
00:55:25.679 --> 00:55:26.559
It's imported silk.
00:55:28.000 --> 00:55:34.960
And then right after that, if you ever ask me that again, Daniel, you won't wake up the following morning.
00:55:35.280 --> 00:55:35.760
Love her.
00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:37.920
Another one.
00:55:38.159 --> 00:55:41.519
Tess is with Benedict, she's too tall for him.
00:55:41.679 --> 00:55:43.119
That's such a good inline.
00:55:43.519 --> 00:55:44.719
Sorry, Andy Garcia.
00:55:45.119 --> 00:55:45.599
So good.
00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:48.239
We said this one, not since he died last year.
00:55:48.400 --> 00:55:51.760
And we also said this one, may as well may as well call White Jack.
00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:56.079
And then there's a 95-pound Chinese man and$160 million behind this door.
00:55:56.320 --> 00:55:57.360
Let's get him out of here.
00:55:57.519 --> 00:55:58.480
Yeah, yeah.
00:55:58.880 --> 00:56:01.920
You know, you lose focus in this game for one minute with the batteries.
00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:02.880
We didn't talk about the batteries.
00:56:03.039 --> 00:56:04.800
I that's that was actually really good.
00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:06.000
That was super batteries, yeah.
00:56:06.159 --> 00:56:10.000
But it's very I defend that because it is true to Linus's character.
00:56:10.159 --> 00:56:16.159
He's so nerdy and so like prepared that he would bring batteries just in case that would happen.
00:56:16.559 --> 00:56:19.199
And this is this is this is my favorite one.
00:56:19.440 --> 00:56:25.599
This is when they're all watching the case and them collect the money, and Saul is perched in the background.
00:56:25.920 --> 00:56:30.639
He says, That is the sexiest thing I have ever seen.
00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:33.599
And and I I believe this with my whole heart.
00:56:33.840 --> 00:56:39.599
Don Cheadle is leaning and just smiles, and I that is for sure real.
00:56:39.760 --> 00:56:40.719
That is for sure real.
00:56:40.960 --> 00:56:42.079
He's like trying to hold it together.
00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:44.000
Trying to hold it together.
00:56:44.559 --> 00:56:46.719
And then we said this one, I hope you were the groom.
00:56:46.800 --> 00:56:48.639
Ted Nugent calls, he wants his shirt back.
00:56:48.719 --> 00:56:49.760
Andy, did I miss any?
00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:51.280
Uh, I think I had a couple down.
00:56:51.519 --> 00:56:53.519
Okay, please take, go, go for it.
00:56:53.840 --> 00:56:54.800
She already left me once.
00:56:54.880 --> 00:56:55.920
I don't think she'd do it again.
00:56:56.079 --> 00:56:56.880
Just for kegs, yeah.
00:56:57.039 --> 00:56:57.840
Right at the beginning.
00:56:58.000 --> 00:57:08.719
Um, so I always love this when they're um when it's the toe for grace when he's walking back with Rusty and he's talking about hey, you can be an LLC.
00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:09.519
You can go back to the city.
00:57:09.679 --> 00:57:12.000
That one got me a lot more this time as an adult.
00:57:12.400 --> 00:57:13.599
Give me a tax write-up.
00:57:13.760 --> 00:57:17.360
But here's the thing I'd have to pay you my check.
00:57:17.840 --> 00:57:19.519
Rusty doesn't say a word.
00:57:20.400 --> 00:57:23.519
Or I'll just stick to the cash, cash chat to find.
00:57:24.400 --> 00:57:26.960
One of my favorite parts of that this is his thing.
00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:29.199
Yeah, this is a great part of that.
00:57:29.519 --> 00:57:30.800
So this is his thing.
00:57:31.039 --> 00:57:33.039
My tax guy, and this is just his thing.
00:57:34.639 --> 00:57:37.440
I never really caught that because he's like, this could be part of like research.
00:57:37.519 --> 00:57:39.679
This would be like research for characters ago.
00:57:39.760 --> 00:57:41.360
So it's like, uh, it's so good.
00:57:41.599 --> 00:57:42.159
That was a good one.
00:57:42.239 --> 00:57:57.840
And then um, when he initially poses the topic to uh to Rusty, Rusty immediately goes, Well, you need a whole host of things a Boskey, a Jim Brown, a Miss Daisy, two Jethro's, Leon Spinx, and the biggest Ella Fitzgerald you ever seen.
00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:07.199
And like all those mean something, like Boski saw Jim Brown is the staged fight, oh um, between Linus and Ramon.
00:58:07.360 --> 00:58:07.679
Yeah.
00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:11.280
And then Miss Daisy is the SWAT team driving in.
00:58:11.599 --> 00:58:13.840
Two Jethrows, obviously the Mormon twins.
00:58:14.079 --> 00:58:18.159
Leon Spinx is the distraction, um, which is the the pinch.
00:58:18.320 --> 00:58:18.559
The pinch.
00:58:18.880 --> 00:58:21.760
And then Ella Fitzgerald is the taped, is the is the tape.
00:58:22.079 --> 00:58:22.400
Oh.
00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:24.480
And so that that that one I really like.
00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:25.599
That's so good.
00:58:25.760 --> 00:58:26.719
Thanks for bringing that up.
00:58:26.800 --> 00:58:28.800
Because I that that is like such a fun.
00:58:29.039 --> 00:58:29.440
Yeah.
00:58:29.760 --> 00:58:37.440
There's all this kind of lore that they tell you, like you get little hints of this like con world that they create in the dialogue in those moments.
00:58:37.599 --> 00:58:41.360
Like, even when in that scene, my wife was like, Where are they?
00:58:41.440 --> 00:58:43.360
Like, are and I was like, they're in the architecture firm.
00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:44.639
She's like, How did they get in?
00:58:44.719 --> 00:58:50.239
And then like the security guard comes, she's like, Oh, I think that's part of the reason I love the movie is because everybody loves Danny and Rusty.
00:58:50.480 --> 00:58:52.960
Yeah, like they have connections everywhere, everywhere.
00:58:53.039 --> 00:58:53.440
Yeah, yeah.
00:58:53.519 --> 00:58:56.480
And it's like we don't know why the security guard let them in.
00:58:56.559 --> 00:58:59.280
Either they did a favor, he's a he got conned.
00:58:59.679 --> 00:59:01.599
Um, but we don't need to know.
00:59:01.679 --> 00:59:06.960
Like, it's it's it adds we already we're we already know that they are the they're the guys.
00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:08.320
You guys are pros.
00:59:08.719 --> 00:59:09.679
What am I talking about?
00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:10.880
You guys are pros.
00:59:11.360 --> 00:59:12.960
Uh, a couple other ones here.
00:59:13.119 --> 00:59:15.280
Um, which one is the amazing yen?
00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:20.719
Rusty goes, it's the little Chinese guy, George George, Chinese guys.
00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:23.679
Steven Steven Soderbergh talked about this in this behind the scenes.
00:59:23.760 --> 00:59:29.840
He said, the great thing about working with these actors, they don't need like comedic lines to be funny, just looks are funny.
00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:36.639
And that look, when George Clooney is like, after Brad says that line, George's face is just like with disdain.
00:59:36.719 --> 00:59:38.159
Like, are you serious?
00:59:38.320 --> 00:59:39.599
Like, why are we here?
00:59:39.760 --> 00:59:40.559
This is insane.
00:59:40.800 --> 00:59:41.440
I love that one.
00:59:41.760 --> 00:59:42.320
So good.
00:59:42.480 --> 00:59:53.280
Um, and then the uh we already mentioned that one, but uh I love when they're explaining the con to the crew and Rusty just knows Chinese.
00:59:53.519 --> 00:59:58.800
Oh, yeah, says a line, and Rusty's like, oh yeah, that's no no tunneling's out, tunneling's out, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:59:58.880 --> 00:59:59.360
They have sensors.
01:00:00.559 --> 01:00:01.280
They know about it.
01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:01.679
What?
01:00:01.920 --> 01:00:09.599
It's a it's a truck that continues on in the series where they all know they all know understand Chinese, but like it's never spoken.
01:00:09.760 --> 01:00:11.280
It's it's it's a fun little bit.
01:00:11.440 --> 01:00:12.079
Yeah.
01:00:12.480 --> 01:00:19.440
Um, and then uh they're still in the middle of the effing desert, yeah, at the end of the Ruben bit.
01:00:19.519 --> 01:00:24.079
So those are the only ones, but just uh just that's it's incredible, mate.
01:00:24.159 --> 01:00:25.360
It's it's so good.
01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:27.360
All right, on to best scene.
01:00:27.440 --> 01:00:30.719
This is this is a tough one, uh, because I I mean it's the whole movie.
01:00:30.800 --> 01:00:37.519
Uh, I think a friend of the show, Jacob Felton, on his letterbox, he just re-watched this recently, not because so shout out to Jake.
01:00:37.679 --> 01:00:39.920
He said, I came to watch sometimes.
01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:47.760
You watch a movie and you come to just see Casey Affleck with a remote remote control uh truck, and then you stay and watch the whole movie.
01:00:47.920 --> 01:00:50.559
Like, I think that's the thing about this, it moves so quickly.
01:00:50.719 --> 01:00:54.800
There's not a scene really where you're like, eh, I don't want to, I don't really want to watch it anymore.
01:00:54.880 --> 01:00:57.440
Like, it just moves so fast, and every scene is delightful.
01:00:57.599 --> 01:01:00.559
Okay, I'm gonna throw out some of my favorites and you guys can chime in.
01:01:00.719 --> 01:01:03.039
The poker game with our movie stars.
01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:07.679
We have Holly Marie from Charmed, Topher Grace, that 70 show.
01:01:07.760 --> 01:01:13.840
He was also in Um Crash, uh Joshua Jackson from Dawson's Creek, one of our favorite shows, Mike.
01:01:13.920 --> 01:01:18.320
Uh Barry Watson from Seventh Heaven, and then Shane West, uh, most famously in a walk to remember.
01:01:18.639 --> 01:01:22.960
I mean, right at the turn of Millennium, all the stars, all the young actors.
01:01:23.119 --> 01:01:24.320
That's a great scene.
01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:26.400
Uh, the Ruben lunch scene.
01:01:26.880 --> 01:01:30.559
We just said pretty much all the lines right into recruiting the team.
01:01:30.639 --> 01:01:32.000
So it's that and then recruiting the team.
01:01:32.159 --> 01:01:32.800
Whole sequence, yeah.
01:01:32.880 --> 01:01:33.840
It's just the whole sequence.
01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:38.639
Tess and Danny uh at dinner into Linus tailing Danny.
01:01:38.719 --> 01:01:47.440
I I really love that scene when George is leaving the dinner and then Linus kind of like is is perched, even though like Danny knows he's there.
01:01:47.679 --> 01:01:48.480
And I don't know.
01:01:48.719 --> 01:01:49.679
It's a theme throughout the series.
01:01:49.760 --> 01:01:50.400
They do a lot of that too.
01:01:50.639 --> 01:01:52.960
They do a lot of that, but the Tess and Danny dinner is really great.
01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:56.400
I mean, that's just like two of the best actors of all time going at it.
01:01:56.639 --> 01:02:02.079
The pinch heist, I just the the Mormon the Mormon twins really make that so good.
01:02:02.239 --> 01:02:04.159
Don't leave me here with these guys.
01:02:06.239 --> 01:02:08.159
Frank gets fired scene.
01:02:09.440 --> 01:02:11.199
You better talk to him.
01:02:12.800 --> 01:02:22.800
Uh apparently there was a bunch of outtakes, like they they tried a bunch of different things in that in that sequence, and I really want to watch like all the cut scenes of of Bernie Mac's takes.
01:02:23.039 --> 01:02:32.960
Is it not on like it is like there in the behind the scenes that I watched, they show another lot, like another take that Bernie Mac did, but it's it's such a good scene.
01:02:33.199 --> 01:02:37.360
I think you could supercut just the Bernie Mac scenes and we might have a better movie.
01:02:37.599 --> 01:02:38.719
You have a great reel in it, yeah.
01:02:39.199 --> 01:02:43.119
You would the what really happened montage, and then the fountain scene.
01:02:43.199 --> 01:02:46.400
Uh any other scenes that I missed, or what's the what's your guys' favorite scene?
01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:47.280
I think I know yours.
01:02:47.679 --> 01:02:53.360
Okay, so I before we pick a favorite scene, I kind of want to go back to the first scene you mentioned, which is the um the poker game.
01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:55.920
Yeah, so you're playing five cards.
01:02:56.159 --> 01:03:00.320
This movie is made in 2001, shot 1999, 2000.
01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:07.679
Yeah, and um, so all of those celebrities pretty famous-ish.
01:03:08.079 --> 01:03:08.880
Yeah, that's at the time.
01:03:09.360 --> 01:03:11.199
Yeah, definitely the hot young stars.
01:03:11.360 --> 01:03:14.320
So here's the thing I love about this.
01:03:14.559 --> 01:03:30.079
It's almost like Steven Soderberg knew what was gonna happen because you get this poker game of like kind of people who are pretty famous, and they all turn out to be kind of only a little famous, right?
01:03:30.159 --> 01:03:30.480
Exactly.
01:03:30.719 --> 01:03:31.679
They had their moment in the summer.
01:03:31.760 --> 01:03:36.400
It's great, and one of my favorite parts is that scene is when they're leaving the back door of the poker game.
01:03:36.639 --> 01:03:42.880
Topher gets out there, and there's the pop paparazzi and fans, and he's like, Oh guys, okay, I'll talk to you.
01:03:43.039 --> 01:03:48.079
And then George Bradley, Brad Pitt and George Clooney slide through unnoticed.
01:03:48.239 --> 01:03:52.960
It is the craziest thing, and it's all as to your point, it's only aged better because it's perfect.
01:03:53.119 --> 01:03:55.119
It's like you miss Brad Pitt and George Clooney.
01:03:55.360 --> 01:04:05.199
Like, if any one of those actors had gone on and been like incredible, like won a bunch of awards, it wouldn't hit the scene.
01:04:05.440 --> 01:04:06.079
Yeah, it's it's better.
01:04:06.159 --> 01:04:06.400
You're right.
01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:07.119
It's aged even better.
01:04:07.199 --> 01:04:09.039
It's better that they've plateaued.
01:04:09.360 --> 01:04:17.599
And that's why it's interesting because Casey Affleck could have been like, oh, yeah, it's just an Affleck butt brother, but he won an Oscar, Matt Damon became Matt Damon, all those actors.
01:04:17.679 --> 01:04:20.159
I mean, Don Cheadle was in in all the Marvel movies.
01:04:20.239 --> 01:04:21.599
I mean Y5O.
01:04:21.840 --> 01:04:23.360
Y5O, yeah, Scott Connor.
01:04:23.599 --> 01:04:24.400
That's on my forget.
01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:25.039
Yeah.
01:04:25.119 --> 01:04:30.960
So CBS is how I five though.
01:04:31.519 --> 01:04:33.360
Coming up after 60 minutes.
01:04:33.519 --> 01:04:40.239
Um America's number one new drama is on CBS.
01:04:40.880 --> 01:04:42.400
Scott Connor the Malloy twist.
01:04:42.719 --> 01:04:43.360
Okay, all right.
01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:47.360
Not as good as his uh his counterpart, but uh, what's your favorite scene?
01:04:47.440 --> 01:04:48.559
What's your best scene, Andy?
01:04:48.719 --> 01:04:51.519
It's gotta be the montage of bringing the team together.
01:04:51.679 --> 01:04:51.920
Yeah.
01:04:52.079 --> 01:05:02.880
Um, when I got when I rewatched it with this movie or with this uh pod in mind, it reminded me of how much I loved like recruiting the Avengers.
01:05:02.960 --> 01:05:03.199
Yeah.
01:05:03.360 --> 01:05:05.280
In a in like a conheist way.
01:05:05.360 --> 01:05:05.599
Right.
01:05:05.679 --> 01:05:05.840
Right?
01:05:05.920 --> 01:05:07.519
It's the Avengers of Heist.
01:05:07.760 --> 01:05:08.079
Yes.
01:05:08.239 --> 01:05:10.800
And it's just everybody at their peak of their powers.
01:05:10.880 --> 01:05:23.599
Um, and so bringing them all together and and the the scenes between uh the transitions between the characters, like when they move on to the next character between Rusty and Um Danny are just perfection.
01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:24.480
So fun.
01:05:24.639 --> 01:05:25.840
I could watch it every day.
01:05:26.000 --> 01:05:27.039
It's so good.
01:05:27.599 --> 01:05:28.800
Uh all right.
01:05:29.039 --> 01:05:30.559
Ratings and meetings.
01:05:31.199 --> 01:05:33.360
What did you rate this on letterboxed, Andy?
01:05:33.440 --> 01:05:34.719
If you would have a letterboxed.
01:05:34.960 --> 01:05:37.519
What I so I don't have a letterbox, uh, so I can't.
01:05:37.760 --> 01:05:38.559
It's a shame for all of us.
01:05:38.719 --> 01:05:39.599
I guess I should have a letterbox.
01:05:39.840 --> 01:05:40.239
He needs to.
01:05:40.320 --> 01:05:43.519
It's the only way I can communicate with my friends outside of putting making them to be on my book.
01:05:43.599 --> 01:05:44.800
I guess I will be making a letterbox.
01:05:44.960 --> 01:05:45.119
Yes.
01:05:45.199 --> 01:05:46.239
Uh, out of five stars.
01:05:46.480 --> 01:05:49.760
Out of five stars, I have to go whole stars, or is it you can do holes half.
01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:50.960
I can do half stars.
01:05:51.039 --> 01:05:51.760
And there's no rules.
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Follow your heart.
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Gosh, I gotta get five stars.
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I don't know what else I'm gonna say.
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It's on my Mart Rushmore, so it's it's a five star for me.
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Same.
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Five star for me.
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Mike, I'd be curious.
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Like seriously, you got three and a half.
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I'll take that.
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You know what?
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I'll take that.
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Mike's a harsh critic.
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I'll take three and a half.
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That's really good.
01:06:08.079 --> 01:06:08.960
I'll I'll take that.
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Um all right, wrapping up.
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What does this movie mean to you, Andy?
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It means that everybody can be whatever they want to be.
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And a cool carist, maybe that's your path in life.
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Just be it.
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Mike, what does this movie mean to you?
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Stole the Mictors.
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Nobody knows.
01:06:25.119 --> 01:06:26.960
Yeah, I mean, not a whole lot.
01:06:28.320 --> 01:06:30.480
It's a movie that is on TV a lot.
01:06:30.559 --> 01:06:30.719
Yes.
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And uh I probably see, you know, an hour's worth of it every two years.
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Beautiful.
01:06:38.960 --> 01:06:42.159
Uh, this movie means a lot to me, obviously, if you've listened this far.
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Uh, this is uh I I I aspire to be as cool as these characters.
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Yes.
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I aspire my life to be as cool as these characters.
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We haven't we did not talk about the soundtrack in the music by David Hollywood.
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How do we how do we miss this?
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This was one of the first CDs I bought with my own money was the soundtrack.
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The music is so perfect for the mood of the movie.
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Yeah, it just it's every scene has its own special twist, but that's like it's just so cool, it just adds to the to the environment of the movie.
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And when they do have like real songs, like when Ruben's going through all the history and what's your favorite, and why is it Elvis?
01:07:17.679 --> 01:07:20.079
It it just with that cross-cutting, it's Vegas.
01:07:20.159 --> 01:07:20.480
Yeah.
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Um, I the but the Clair de Loon at the end is so magical.
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And I I just noticed for the first time Clair de Loon is playing when they first arrive at Ruben's house, like it's very soft in the background, and that was the first time I noticed that.
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Um, I also love when they Ruben's talking about the heist in the different eras, like the best Las Vegas heist, and the guy who got first was in the 80s, and we have a take my breath away can't cameo for Came.
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So they covered.
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He's got like the cigarette like out of his mouth.
01:07:51.119 --> 01:07:52.880
Uh that's also one of my favorite side note.
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There, this movie has a theme of uh what do you call it when you're clotheslining people?
01:07:58.079 --> 01:07:58.559
Oh, you're right.
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Running through the casino just with clothesline.
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It happens like after the pinch happens and people are scrambling for chips too.
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Somebody's trying to run with chips and just gets is that what that's right.
01:08:09.280 --> 01:08:11.039
Someone does get like fully clotheslined.
01:08:11.199 --> 01:08:12.800
Yeah, they're fully horizontal.
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It's awesome.
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All right, gentlemen, thanks for joining this heist.
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Thanks for being uh Luke's three, I guess, or two.
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We've got we've got I get the rusty titles.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You can be's three because isn't Danny one of the Luke three.
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Yeah, he's one of the 11.
01:08:27.439 --> 01:08:28.239
Yeah, yeah, it is.
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Uh we will not be doing this as a rewatch franchise, so I know for listeners, uh, that was vetoed, but um maybe Luke, we can just get together and watch the rest of the I think I think that might have to have to have to have you guys come back.
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Uh, thanks for being here, gentlemen.
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Uh it was great.
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Uh, we we conquered.
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Now we can now we can go away happy.
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We can walk away.
01:08:45.840 --> 01:08:48.000
I thought maybe we could just all walk offset slowly.
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Yeah, just have some buttons.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And uh listeners, edit and post.
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Yes.
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Thank you for for listening to our oceans 11 episode.
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We'll talk to you next time on least important things.